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The fantasy footballer Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Mike Wright
Oh, welcome in. I don't know what we're doing. I saw him do it, so I did it.
Jason Moore
Wednesday, September 10th show 1800.
Mike Wright
Oh, is it really?
Andy Holloway
Oh, turn of the century.
Mike Wright
Thanks, Benjamin Franklin.
Andy Holloway
What was what we're in the 1800s now.
Jason Moore
I just, I just stared at Jason during the welcome in because he, he said he got thrown off yesterday.
Andy Holloway
Oh.
Jason Moore
So I was trying to throw him off again.
Andy Holloway
No, you didn't. I was too busy staring at the screen that is waiting to run waivers. I went to change a bid and it said. Oh, no, it said the player you are bidding on is no longer available. Meaning it's run.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
But it is not yet displaying to us that that is the. That is the moment we are living in.
Jason Moore
Turn of the century. Welcome in. So which league are you checking on?
Andy Holloway
League of record.
Jason Moore
Okay. Yeah. Did you, did you go to work?
Andy Holloway
You know, so here's before it runs, I. I already know how it's going to happen. I decided this year I'm going a little bit harder than I usually do. I really want to add a couple of important pieces. Went hard after Huge and went hard after Keisha on booty and I promise you I got neither. There's no way that what I thought I. So I just went to up my bids. What is to me, I was $19 for each. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Oh, that's pretty hard.
Andy Holloway
Okay, good. I'm happy to hear that because you're Going to get when I put.
Jason Moore
Oh well no, you might not get cuge but I think you'll definitely get booty.
Andy Holloway
You still get huge. I will. You will not. Oh.
Mike Wright
The cards are. I did slowly go.
Andy Holloway
I did a hundred of my fab. Oh, but I did more than 18 so if you bid 18 you won't get them. Well, I bid more than 18 as well.
Jason Moore
I did not. I did not bid on either of those guys. Well no, I had zero dollar bids but yeah, my. Now that we're just putting the cards on the table, all the most I spent was on Harold Fannin.
Andy Holloway
Oh, I really wanted Harold Fannin.
Jason Moore
Well, you might have got him if you went hard. How much did you bid on Harold Fannin?
Andy Holloway
I think it was like I'm always.
Mike Wright
Just under Andy, you glossed over a great point. I don't think we highlighted it yesterday. $0 bids. Yeah people, $0. If you could be looking at the waiver wire saying there's no chance, I'm just not in the position to get this player. $0 bids, they go through more than you would think. And because everyone gets that mentality of like I don't want to over bid so I'm not going to do anything. Put a zero dollar in. Yes, sometimes. Yes, sometimes things happen.
Andy Holloway
It is unbelievable how many times that someone gets a player that no one else bid on that you're like, I thought everyone was going hard because I mean you just always if there's a player worth rostering and you don't want to spend on him, put a zero dollar bid. And it's great advice. You're not going to get him in a chop league though if you put a zero dollar bid on. That's what I just found out.
Jason Moore
Yeah. We are playing our first chopped league ever and boy oh boy did people spend money in week one.
Andy Holloway
Malik Neighbors was on the chopped team so he fell to waivers and 551of the thousand dollars spent.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it seems I got nobody in that one so. But welcome in. We've got. We've got a fun show.
Mike Wright
We've got the waivers are running everyone.
Jason Moore
Yeah, we sometimes it's fun when they, when they start up here to react but we have a great show for you today. We are going to dig into some backup options. One of our favorite things to do is drop it like it's hot. And talk about especially after week one people are eager to go and spend on waivers and drop players that maybe have a real future and just had a bad week one. So we'll talk about them. We got news to get into. We got the Thursday night preview, we got Mailbag and we're even going to take a quick look here at our initial early takes on the season. A reminder if you want access to the customized waiver wire tool as we talk about waivers and the ultimate dashboard lineup optimizer and all of our premium tools and resources, it's as simple as going to jointhefoot.com becoming an official supporter of the show, a member of the Foot clan. And then you will have access to all of those tools year round on the web and in the exclusive Foot Clan applied. And you can do that@jointhefoot.com so quick question as you two continue to stare down your waivers.
Andy Holloway
Let's, I'm sorry, were you talking.
Jason Moore
Let's take, let's take a look here. One take that you feel you have gotten right after, you know, week one confirmed your opinion and one take you feel very shaky about after week one.
Andy Holloway
Can they both be George Kittle?
Mike Wright
No.
Jason Moore
I get it.
Mike Wright
Kittle is right.
Andy Holloway
Kittle was, it was.
Mike Wright
I felt great about it on four targets and like.
Andy Holloway
I'll hop in. I would say that the player that I'm really happy with because I felt kind of on an island here was Michael Pittman. I think Michael Pittman. I went back, I talked about it more on the Dynasty episode that released today. But if you look at last year in the games that Michael Pittman played without Anthony Richardson, every single game other than the one he got injured in, he was double digit fantasy points. He was basically a wide receiver to every single week when he wasn't playing with Anthony Richardson. And then you go, okay, so most of last year he was with Anthony Richardson. It was just a disaster. But what about the year prior with the year prior he was the wide receiver 15. The year prior he was the wide receiver 23. The year prior he was the Wide receiver 15. And then even last year whenever he wasn't playing with Anthony Richardson, he was a wide receiver too. So now you've got Daniel Jones there and he is the, you know, he's the clear to me. And so far after one week the primary target in the wide receiver core, I believe he was mispriced and is a good wide receiver. He's also paid to be their alpha.
Mike Wright
I love Michael Pittman. The I think downs will be more and more as the season goes along. You know, I mean he had the hamstring. Was that what it was? I can't remember. He had an injury that held him out For a good chunk there of training camp. And then he was only in the slot, so. But I'm. That doesn't mean I'm out of.
Andy Holloway
I will 100% grant you that while I do think that Pittman is more valuable for fantasy than Josh Downs, even if Josh Downs is a better, like, actual wide receiver, which he might be, the week one happenstance where you destroyed Miami, that does not put you in three wide receiver sets. Throwing the ball a ton. That's where Josh Downs will thrive because he played only in the slot. So if you don't have three wide receivers on the field, he's not going to be out there. So I. This is not an overreaction that Josh Downs is dead by any means from week one when you are up 30 to nothing in the blink of an eye on the Dolphins. The take I am feeling shaky about, I'm holding on to them, holding on to that little plate. Stay strong, little roots is of course, Caleb Johnson. Caleb Johnson, you know, my fantasy mvp, a guy that I really believe in. I really believe in the talent. I said it will start slow. He will not be on the field, you know, ahead of Jalen Warren. And my biggest fear was Arthur and Kenneth Gainwell. And week one, it was Kenneth Gainwell out snapped Jalen Warren. What are you doing? But I'm feeling very shaky because I don't like liking players that don't play football.
Jason Moore
The hardest part is going to be the question we're going to ask probably for three or four weeks in a row, which is, do you drop Caleb Johnson? Because if he gets the exact same amount of work this next week, I think you're going to be in this.
Andy Holloway
Place where most everyone's going to feel they have to drop him. And I will feel like contractually obligated to go pick him up. So if you play in the league.
Jason Moore
Right, he will be roster. By the way, you did get Kshaan Booty. You did not get Quentin Johnston.
Andy Holloway
Okay. That was the order that I put.
Jason Moore
Them in on Monday. 35.
Andy Holloway
Great.
Jason Moore
And you did get Booty way too much. My take that I feel like I got right or it's heading that direction. Is JSN being a true alpha in Seattle?
Mike Wright
Well, it was just like what, a 50% target share?
Andy Holloway
Not a wide receiver.
Jason Moore
It was the highest on the week, right?
Mike Wright
Yes, it's the highest of all time.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So JSN playing outside, Cooper cup barely involved.
Mike Wright
JSN is Cooper cup actually ran more routes.
Jason Moore
Wild. Wild. Yeah. JSN looks real good after one week.
Andy Holloway
And then I actually went back and watched a bunch of film of JSN and it was better than the stats, which were great.
Jason Moore
Okay. Yeah, that's great to hear. And then one take I feel very shaky about.
Andy Holloway
Or $31 for Juan Johnson.
Mike Wright
Huh? What league are you talking about?
Andy Holloway
The listener league.
Mike Wright
Oh, okay. I mean, that's. Let the man talk.
Andy Holloway
Sorry. We'll react to the waivers like seeing a spider, man. I'm not going to just not react.
Mike Wright
14 team league.
Jason Moore
I'm going to release a spider if you don't be quiet for a second.
Andy Holloway
Watch it.
Jason Moore
No, the take I feel very quickly. On the opposite side of now is my doubts around Justin Fields and Garrett Wilson at least through one week, which again, Mike, you brought it up and you are the Justin Fields truth. Justin Fields can look like garbage next week.
Mike Wright
He certainly could.
Jason Moore
But right now, this was not. This was just such an impressive performance through four quarters with his passing, with his evasiveness, the rushing game, and then Garrett Wilson being that primary target constantly who should have had two touchdowns. Yeah, you know, I doubted both of those guys. Feeling shaky about that take through one week, we'll see what the future holds. But, I mean, I had a league where I traded for Justin Fields on the cheap because I think, you know, Mike, we. I asked you the question, and this maybe will help the listeners out there. Justin Herbert or Justin Fields? Which, Justin, would you rather have rest of season? And Mike's response was essentially, Herbert's probably got the higher floor, but Justin Fields could be, if you get the right season, a league winner because if you.
Mike Wright
Can run, he can finish top three.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, we've seen him do that. Now, it's going to be hard for the jets, but it was a Week 1 matchup against Pittsburgh's defense and he put up big numbers. So that would be the one that I feel like maybe I got wrong.
Andy Holloway
I think Herbert can finish top three as well.
Jason Moore
I do not think.
Mike Wright
I think it's.
Andy Holloway
He's literally finished as quarterback.
Mike Wright
I think it's four. I think it's possible. I guess I'd frame it as it's more likely to me that Fields finishes his top three than Herbert. There was a tweet from Jacob Gibbs who highlighted that Justin Field Fields had the second lowest first read target rate per fantasy data. As in. As in Fields was going through his progressions. He wasn't just pointing to a Fields, nice swish. I'll take it. But yeah, like, you know, tua, I don't know if you guys saw the Stuff about was it Howard was talking about to us, somebody was like, we know that if we shut down to his first read, he just melts. And the fact that that Fields was lower. Yes, Kyle, it was. It was Xavier Howard. The fact that Fields was actually reading and going through a progression, that is fantastic news. The take I feel pretty good about is Jordan Mason of the Minnesota Vikings. And of just that, I knew that the Aaron Jones is going to be involved in the passing game more than Jordan Mason. Aaron Jones was at a 15% target share. Jordan Mason was at 5% though. However, Mason was at 58% of the running back carries and just one week. But eyeball test was they tried to run a little bit with Aaron Jones at the beginning of the game. It did not work. They put Jordan Mason in and immediately chunk plays are starting to happen. So I think that that that transition happens even more rapidly now of seeing what Jordan Mason can do on the ground. And, and then if this Vikings offense gets cooking like we think and he's the goal line running back, I think that for where he was drafted, he's going to be a home run pick. Now the complete opposite of that. I mean it's what Jason Mine's obvious. It's Ken Bone Walker of what for the Seattle Seahawks it was a complete timeshare. It felt. It didn't feel like a timeshare when you were watching. It felt like it's charbs on the field all the time and he just keeps having success.
Andy Holloway
It really did.
Mike Wright
And then every time Walker got a touch, he. It was same old, same old.
Andy Holloway
He just. I remember a from you which is. I believe Sharps had the ball and you go, oh sure, you blocked for Sharps.
Mike Wright
If as the the Walker apologist, it very much felt like the team was letting him down. But Walker I think was 10 for 20. He had three receptions. It's just. It feels for his ADP, it feels incredibly shaky at this point. I do think better days are ahead for Walker, but he.
Jason Moore
What was the.
Mike Wright
He may not match the adp.
Jason Moore
What was the stat that I shared with you the other day? I think in the last seven. Ken Walker.
Mike Wright
Oh, that. He's just. He's under for a carry.
Jason Moore
He's under for a carry.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
He is carrying that game like he was not.
Mike Wright
He has not been able to rip off a Ken Walker big run.
Jason Moore
I do think there has been. I mean, because we've seen enough of him. I think there's a correlation between his tackle breaking and putting himself in positions to break tackles. I do think that there's maybe could be a when I get the ball, I'm not making the right first read situation going on after that much time with Ken Walker. But we'll move on, talk some backup options.
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Jason Moore
All right, drop it like it's hot, folks. We had waiver wire go through today. We want to see which players. We want you to pay attention to which players were dropped to go pick up the new hotness. So if you didn't get the waiver wire ads, if you didn't spend up, here are some backup options you should pay attention to in week one. Quarterbacks, what do you think?
Andy Holloway
Trevor Lawrence is a guy that, you know, he wasn't picked up much and.
Mike Wright
He was super disappointing in week one.
Andy Holloway
He was super disappointed. So he would very likely be dropped. But I think the matchup against Cincinnati we saw Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco had a great game. Unfortunately, he has two interceptions that also killed potential more yards and touchdowns on his drives that were not his fault when he threw it to the hands of his receivers and they popped it up. But the Bengals defense did not look especially difficult as expected. And I think that Trevor Lawrence going into week two against Cincinnati is probably a pretty good play this week. He's a good streaming option. So that would be someone beyond who was picked up this week at quarterback.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And I'd mentioned Caleb.
Andy Holloway
Who?
Mike Wright
Caleb Williams, Chicago Bears. He still seems to be available in about 35%.
Jason Moore
Well, and this is again, these are numbers before the waivers, before the waiver hit. So we don't even need to. I mean, if Caleb is dropped.
Mike Wright
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Moore
Pay attention. He was the quarterback six in two games against Detroit last year.
Mike Wright
It's. And it comes down to the running.
Jason Moore
And what's QB9 in week one, he.
Mike Wright
Was 6 for 58 with a touchdown. On the ground, the through the air didn't look fantastic, but on the ground, I mean, he looked so incredibly fast and he looked like he had was dunked in grease or Vaseline and the Minnesota Vikings could not get him. They were getting there, but they could not get him.
Andy Holloway
I was really surprised with the athleticism.
Mike Wright
Yeah, no, I was too. I knew. We know he was athletic.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Mike Wright
But week one looked the speed different.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he did. Yeah. He was able to pull away, you're saying, from some of the rushers and things.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
If running backs were picked up in your league, if Tootin or Samson or somebody and you didn't pick them up, pay attention. Take a look and see if Trey Benson got dropped after one week. Sometimes people pick up backups in the draft and then move on to somebody that they feel like they can start. Pay attention to DJ Giddens, who Jason mentioned yesterday, barely rostered backing up Jonathan Taylor who has a vast injury history and hurt his neck in week one.
Andy Holloway
I also saw in a lot of leagues Kendra Miller was dropped in. I would say most like he him, Will Shipley. Those guys were dropped. Will Shipley makes sense because they brought someone in. But while Kendra didn't very little, did almost Nothing, only played 15% of the snaps and so that's why everyone's dropping him. He was the running back too. It wasn't like someone else played ahead of him. It was just Alvin Camara played 79% of the snap. So as an insurance option behind an older Camara who's missed games every year for the last several, it seems like someone that should be rostered.
Jason Moore
All right wide receivers, if you missed out on picking up huge as Jason did or K Sean Booty or Tillman or Hollywood Brown players we mentioned on yesterday's show, maybe take a look and see if I like these three juju Smith Schuster is out there barely rostered, going to play a ton of snaps if Worthy misses more time. No rashi rice was five four has.
Andy Holloway
And then wandale juju feels like he's 34. He's 28 years old.
Jason Moore
Oh no he's not.
Andy Holloway
He is Cameron Artist pain situation, bad birth certificate.
Mike Wright
He I calling out Juju is I think important for people. While we have heard on this podcast that Tyquan Thornton is guaranteed to score.
Andy Holloway
A 43424242 yard touchdown.
Mike Wright
Now he has to do that on his three targets is the biggest issue.
Jason Moore
He'll have five this week.
Mike Wright
Okay, but Juju is going to get targets. I mean he I don't know that he was a huge part of the game plan going into last week but now that they have the hand that they are dealt with he will be involved and he just juju just keeps popping up for the Chiefs when they need him. He gives you a usable week for fantasy.
Jason Moore
People might have dropped, you know some of those top drop candidates too like Jaden Higgins or Cooper cup that you could add to the roster. Trey Tucker as well had a big touchdown and we think Brock Bowers is okay but tight end wise if you didn't grab Joanne Johnson or Harold Fannin or Britain Strange you pay attention to Johnny Smith. He will be definitely used all the time by Arthur Smith and I don't know if it's a last name thing. I don't know what it is, but he likes Johnny and Hunter Henry, of course, he might be out there. People are bored with Hunter Henry.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And Dalton Kincaid.
Andy Holloway
I was going to say Dalton Kincaid and Dallas Goddard, bigger names that were not necessarily drafted in a lot of leagues that both looked good week one. Those. Those are.
Mike Wright
I think I'd go. I'd go Goddard over Dalton Kincaid. Kincaid played like half the game and I mean, he came through with the big time touchdown, but he was only out there for 51% of the snaps and got.
Andy Holloway
So just imagine, Mike, what if he's out for 80%, room to grow.
Mike Wright
I agree with that. He won't be as the Buffalo Bills have shown us with Dalton Kincaid.
Jason Moore
And yeah, that could have been interpreted as an actually bad game for Kincaid when you consider that his quarterback passed for 250 yards in the fourth quarter.
Mike Wright
That's how I.
Jason Moore
It might be a sell high.
Andy Holloway
It's like, it's 100% like Travis Kelsey, who got the touchdown and is also a sell high because I had a 10% of targets. He was like not involved in that game when they needed him.
Mike Wright
Now this might be this. It could be super galaxy brained. Real, Real galaxy brain. But did you see the quote of. It's probably from that other stupid podcast, but Kelsey was talking about running into Worthy.
Jason Moore
They do a podcast?
Mike Wright
Yeah. It's garbage. Don't listen to it. Oh my gosh.
Jason Moore
I didn't mean to set that up.
Mike Wright
Well, they get ratings because they have superstar pop stars on.
Jason Moore
Oh my gosh. Jealous much?
Mike Wright
But anyways, he was talking about like, I mean, there's a human again. Could be Galaxy brain. There's a human element. He took his teammate out. Do you like, do you think that that affected him at all mentally or was he able to just completely block that out?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he got completely blocked out.
Jason Moore
He talked it out. He talked about that on the podcast.
Mike Wright
I think there's a chance he was.
Jason Moore
And how he's got to be a lot better than that. And that was his mistake.
Mike Wright
And these are.
Jason Moore
They're human beings also. He's part of game plan sometimes and other times he's not. I mean, they were playing obviously a defense that was pretty good. Well, we'll see. I'm not going to. I'm not bailing on Kelsey completely, but it was the lowest target share he's had since 2017, so.
Andy Holloway
Woof.
Jason Moore
Keep that in mind. Also on the defensive side, if you're looking for multi week pickups that are still out there. The Patriots have a really decent schedule. Miami, Pittsburgh, Carolina. The Seahawks play Pittsburgh and New Orleans. So New Orleans is coming up for them.
Mike Wright
Man, those are a couple.
Andy Holloway
I saw the Philly.
Mike Wright
There's a chance. Seattle's just has a good defense.
Andy Holloway
I agree.
Jason Moore
I believe I said top five to 10 and that was ridiculous.
Mike Wright
The range was too much. It was too much. But I might be on your side there.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And the Eagles 50. I've seen the Eagles dropped a lot. Yeah. Thank you, Mike.
Mike Wright
That's.
Andy Holloway
The Eagles have been dropped in a lot of leagues that I'm in because they're playing the Chiefs this week. And so you go, oh, I don't, I don't want to play them. That's fine. But they're obviously a great team.
Jason Moore
Against the Chiefs, sure.
Andy Holloway
But I would pick them up.
Jason Moore
Well, it's in Arrowhead. Maybe not. All right. That was backup options. Sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote today@progressive.com we'll go ahead and take a break and talk some news.
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All right, let's jump in.
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Jason Moore
The packers signed currently injured wide receiver Christian Watson to a one year, $13 million contract extension.
Andy Holloway
Who is Christian Watson?
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Agent. Okay.
Jason Moore
Are you looking to find us a new agent?
Andy Holloway
You doing some good work out there?
Jason Moore
So this puts him under contract, I believe, for he was already under contract for next year, I think. Is that right?
Mike Wright
So he was. This is year four. No, he would not be.
Jason Moore
Okay, so they did. They're giving him another year. It does prove some things we said about him in the beginning of the year, which is. Maybe he's one of those IR stashes to pay attention to because they have plans for him. Yeah. Nice job. Not sure when he's going to be back. Jake London and Darnell Mooney expected to practice today. Raheem Morris says he expects London to play this week. It's a Sunday Night Football game, which makes it, you know, you'd like to see him out there and get that confirmed towards the end of the week.
Andy Holloway
It also means, and this is the time of year where we try to remind you, because we were not in the flow of it, when you've got these questionable players on Sunday night, Monday night, make sure that they are in your flex position so you have more opportunities to pivot out of them if it's a last. Oh, turns out he's not playing. Give yourself some flexibility.
Jason Moore
The 49ers have a weekly part of the show, it seems when we talk injuries. John Jennings is day to day looking pretty good for him not to be majorly injured. Jake Moody has been cut to the joy of many, many, many 49ers fans. And do you want to. Do you want to hit some sad music here, Al?
Mike Wright
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
George Kittle officially placed on injured reserve.
Andy Holloway
That sucks.
Mike Wright
George.
Jason Moore
Jason, any thoughts?
Andy Holloway
He's gonna miss the next four games, and while he's missing that time, he's gonna go to Little Caesars, probably on an elk or some kind of raising deer. Sure. He's gonna upgrade to a reindeer at this point. He's gonna have a great time. Probably drink some brewskis. This isn't what other NFL players should be doing, but this is what George Kittle can do. And then he's gonna come back out in week six and dominate.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I like that part.
Jason Moore
Well, I hope. I hope you're right, George.
Mike Wright
You owe me some fabric.
Jason Moore
One of the. One of the things that kind of sucks is that the opening season window was going to be the best for George.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Because you're going to get back to Marcus Robinson, Brandon Iuk, other players later on. Not that he won't be amazing. He will. But Will Shipley dealing with fractured ribs.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Totally had nothing to do with the injured Will Shipley.
Jason Moore
Why?
Andy Holloway
We traded for Tank Bigsby.
Jason Moore
So we. Yeah, Will Shipley. You can cut him. I did in a couple of leagues to move on. And it'll be Tank Bigsby and AJ Dillon back behind Saquon Barkley. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote Today at progressive.com, progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations coverage subject policy terms, limits and conditions. Let's talk Thursday Night Football.
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Thursday night breakdown.
Jason Moore
Well, we had football Thursday, Friday, Sunday, Monday last week. Our Thursday night matchup this week, Washington one and oh man, taking on the one and oh, Green Bay Packers.
Mike Wright
This game is so.
Jason Moore
This game's also in Lambo. They get to start the season two at home.
Andy Holloway
That's what I was surprised. Two at home. But not just two at home. But then the second week on Thursday night prime time at home, making another team fly across the country in short order they're going.
Jason Moore
They just got to stay home. They played at home and they get to chill. Look, they're three and a half point favorites and the over under in the game's 48 and a half. So at least Las Vegas sees us enjoying Thursday Night Football. I hope we do. You know, Green Bay's defense in week one stifling and so Jaden Daniels will have his hands full. Washington runs so much, no huddle. You saw Debo Samuel have a lot of success in his debut. Green Bay much slower. They were 31st in pass rate over expectation last year. That is the challenge for Jordan Love is will they need to throw the ball that much? This is a good game for them to probably need to throw the ball a little bit.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And I mean, are you playing Jordan Love with any level of confidence?
Jason Moore
I mean they have a 26 point implied point total. I'd be comfortable playing Jordan Love. I don't know if he's going to be a top five on the week type of guy.
Mike Wright
But you're not trying to stream out of Jordan Love.
Andy Holloway
I would be fine streaming out of Jordan Love.
Jason Moore
I mean, I play Justin Fields over Jordan Love.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Okay. I feel pretty decent about Love this week.
Andy Holloway
I think Jordan Love has an excellent game and a mediocre fantasy output.
Mike Wright
That's the question of what points do we feel comfortable putting Love out there.
Jason Moore
For Drake May or Jordan Love this week?
Andy Holloway
I would go Drake May.
Jason Moore
Drake May is playing Miami, right?
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I feel like Love will be all right. I think he's got two touchdowns in him.
Andy Holloway
It's tough and I actually do too. I think he throws two touchdowns and probably has a disappointing fantasy. Yeah, he threw two.
Mike Wright
Yes. Or this Past week.
Andy Holloway
What was he, like quarterback, 18 or something?
Jason Moore
Yeah, he was. He was. He didn't run like we were hoping.
Andy Holloway
Right. So that. That's one of those. You know, I think there are a handful of players. The closest one, I brought him up earlier. I'm not sure if I would. Trevor Lawrence, I think has a higher ceiling, but also you're playing with fire there because he's not nearly as good.
Jason Moore
You definitely don't have to start. Love Jaden Daniels. You do. And he had a bunch of design runs again last week. He also. Mike, what did I tell you his rushing line was. When I looked at it, was it 58?
Mike Wright
I thought it was in like the mid-60s.
Jason Moore
It was really high and it was like, my goodness, the.
Andy Holloway
The. Like the projected line, the over.
Jason Moore
Under for the rushing yardage was like 58 yards or something like that. I'm not sure where it is now. Kyle could probably let us know. Maybe it's a little bit lower than that, but it just still seemed like such a nice floor. Maybe it's 48.
Andy Holloway
This is the perfect type of game.
Mike Wright
For JD8 last week.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah. So we had the Jecori Crosky merit breakout. Bill Crosky himself.
Andy Holloway
Bill Crosky has a diary. He calls it the Guinness Book of World Records.
Jason Moore
Okay. All right. You got me pretty good. You got me pretty good. Hey, did the pause.
Mike Wright
Oh, there's a long pause.
Andy Holloway
Prime time.
Jason Moore
Bill Crosky 10 for 82 and a touchdown this week.
Mike Wright
You got to be so excited. So scared. Start Bill in this matchup.
Jason Moore
Well, the. Yeah. The first week, Green Bay, that defense, you know, Austin Eckler feels like we're in a really weird place with him because he is very much the starter. Wasn't the one with Juice last week. I mean, he's solid, but, you know, you'd finished outside the top 36 for 26 on the ground, only six attempts on the ground, three catches. Are we going to have sub 10 attempts from him every week?
Andy Holloway
I think you probably will have sub 10 attempts. The where you want him is in the receiving game. I think in a game like this, you know, they won last week against the giants 21 to 6. This game. I expect them to lose, and I expect them to lose heartily.
Jason Moore
Really?
Andy Holloway
I do. I think that.
Jason Moore
How do you lose heartily?
Mike Wright
I think it.
Jason Moore
Did you mean it?
Mike Wright
There's a bountiful loss.
Andy Holloway
Yes, a bountiful loss.
Jason Moore
Very heartily. Like the great. With great heart.
Mike Wright
I was satiated by my loss.
Andy Holloway
Exactly. The packers look so good And I know it was one week, but it's not just how they looked a week one. It's the actual personnel, the traveling, how these teams match up.
Jason Moore
So if they win, if Green Bay wins heartily, as you said, who are the beneficiaries? You saw Jordan Reed or Jaden Reed get into the end zone last week. Matthew golden had a very quiet opening week one. You had Romeo Dobbs involved. I mean, Tucker Kraft, the touchdown, but not a lot of targets like craft. Only 18 completions by love Craft.
Mike Wright
And that's the whole thing is Craft and Reed, they caught the touchdowns, so they were fine for fantasy, but it was. It was a very small amount of passing attempts that were divvied up across the.
Jason Moore
So then what's the expectation with a hearty win?
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Who's the players that you're most confident.
Andy Holloway
In if you're not, Obviously, Josh Jacobs is the primary beneficiary here. I'm not super confident in any of the pass catchers for. I mean, this is try to call your shot on a touchdown to me, honestly. Tucker Kraft.
Mike Wright
Tucker Kraft, to me, is a weekly starter.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I think so. At that position, you don't need to do as much. You know, last week, you know, he had two catches and was fine because he got the touchdown. The targets are going to be spread around in an infuriating manner. And so it's. It's really difficult for me to. You had two receptions for Dobbs, three receptions for Jaden Reed, two for Wicks, two for Kraft, two for golden, one for Jacobs, one for Musgrave, one for Brooks, one for Fitzpatrick, one for Savion Williams.
Jason Moore
Like, Savion got on there?
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Andy Holloway
He had. He was the third highest total catches. I mean, with one.
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
It's just really tough when you don't have a consolidation of targets to have you really. If you want to play a Packer, you got to say, I believe they're getting a touchdown.
Jason Moore
As a receiver, you're playing Terry McLaurin and Debo. Yeah, I can't imagine not playing Debo McLaurin. It could take a little time. You talked about missing camp.
Mike Wright
It could be, but it's like, who are you playing?
Jason Moore
If you had them both, which one would you play?
Andy Holloway
Debo. I think the manufactured touches will be there. The running game is usually a little bit easier for the packers defense. They've got a very good passing defense. And so Tara McLaurin down the field, I mean, if you're down a lot, they'll throw the ball more So I don't think Terry McLaurin is someone that by any means, you can't start. But it's a matter of. Do you have, like, let's say you drafted Terry McClaurin and you drafted Michael Pittman. I'd feel more confident playing Michael Pittman.
Mike Wright
Really, than Terry McLaren.
Andy Holloway
Oh, I forgot about that. I forgot about Patrick 13. I'll look further into that.
Mike Wright
How about the waiver hotness? Huge. Or the Washington guys?
Andy Holloway
I think I go huge on Monday night.
Mike Wright
Oh, man, this is. This is Spicy.
Andy Holloway
In week two, Ricky Piersoll. I'd rather play over Tara McLaurin. What about Zay Flowers?
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, the problem with Terry is just, you know, he's got to make the most of the limited opportunities, probably the deeper targets. He had four targets in week one. He caught two of them for 27 yards. He's always a big play away. I mean, he was the wide receiver five last year because of big plays, and it's a high over under.
Andy Holloway
So in all fairness, he was just overthrown on what would have been a bomb touchdown.
Jason Moore
It feels like you probably need to stick with Terry.
Andy Holloway
For me, I would. I do agree that we should not overreact on one down week from any wide receiver, but Terry McLaurin did not look back. If that, if. If that throw from Jaden Daniels was, you know, a yard less, then Terry has a great week.
Jason Moore
You play him over Tyreek.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Okay. Mike, do you have any other thoughts on this game?
Mike Wright
Yeah. The question is, I wanted to get some names for Bill because I am nervous about William. William. William. Maybe in this game because the Green Bay defense, one game, but like David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs shut down. And for all the excitement about Bill Crosky, we're not. He's not up at that level of play yet. So are you playing the aforementioned Jordan Mason takes on the Atlanta Falcons? Would you rather play Mason in that game or Bill? Test your fate with Bill on Thursday night.
Jason Moore
I think those are very close to me, and I think. I think Eileen Mason.
Mike Wright
Okay. Jalen Warren against Seattle.
Jason Moore
Eileen Jalen Warren.
Mike Wright
And let's find one more. I guess let's just stay in the same game. Eckler or Bill, who are you playing?
Jason Moore
I actually lean Eckler this week. If you're playing from behind the pass catching role, I. I think I might stay away from Bill after everything you said and where I'm at with it.
Mike Wright
So Bill feels like a low fringe RB2 type of a play. That's where you.
Jason Moore
For me, at least.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
So Bill or Kenneth Walker?
Jason Moore
Probably. I'll play Bill.
Mike Wright
Probably Bill.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I'll play Bill there.
Mike Wright
I. You need to. We need to see it.
Jason Moore
Agreed. Agreed. All right, let's jump into the mailbag.
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Jason Moore
All right, we are into the mailbag. If you have a question for the show, we'd love to answer it. Go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click the submit a question button. Or you can dial the voicemail hotline. 302464, TFFB. And do we have a voicemail in here? Al, are we good on that? We do. All right, let's do it.
Voicemail Caller
Hey, footballers. Dan from South Bend. Love your show. I got a quick question. This is the first time my league has ever done waivers with fab. So what's the easiest way? Or how do you guys decide how much to spend percentage wise on the position and what positions are more important, or how do you guys figure the percentage? I'm just trying to see if I can get some kind of detail on that. Thanks. Have a great day.
Jason Moore
I'll say this and you guys can add some more, more context to it. We add FAB ranges to our waiver wire rankings. So we do give you a baseline of what we think they're worth spending. However, the real true answer, and people don't like it when it's not. When it's not like super, you know, black and white on a certain number. The real true answer is I adjust my bids proportional to my need. If I have a great need for a running back on a roster that's depleted, it's going to be much different than if it's in a very, you know, in a vacuum. I have a full roster and I just try to add somebody to my bench. I'm going to overspend to fill a need on my roster. So I guess I would say use our FAB as a guide, but not a, you know, also know your league.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's what I would say. This, this is. It's. It's really. It's a. It's an. It's a blind auction. So this is. You have to beat the other people in your league and know their tendencies. Now if this is.
Jason Moore
If I go to a blind auction with Jason there, I know I gotta have to bid up a lot because he's gonna buy everything there.
Mike Wright
Well, is it f stuff? It's fancy stuff.
Andy Holloway
Oh, then you bring your wallet. You should just leave.
Mike Wright
You're getting nothing.
Jason Moore
How much for all of it?
Andy Holloway
I'll take a lot. You know, you do need to know now he said this is his first time playing. So you don't know the tendencies of your league. I will say this if you are, if this is the first time for your entire league playing, if you just switch to an auction, go a little harder than you think.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
It's been our experience in new fab leagues that, that yeah. Everyone's worried that they're going to overspend and so they just go out a couple bucks here, a couple bucks there. Just don't. Just be courageous.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And get your guys to highlight Andy's point. I lost George Kittle. I had to get a tight end and I like I said on the show yesterday, there were two tight ends that I fully believe are year long type of players in Juwan Johnson and Harold Fannin. Now I had no idea what other. I looked around at my, at the teams, you know, to just get a gauge who needs a tight end and there were a handful of teams that in my estimation were they're going to bid, they're going to go after these tight ends. So I put in a number where I knew this is going to be an overspend. I don't know how much of an overspend but it will be. But I got to get this guy. So I went 27 on Juwan Johnson which is. That's hard in the paint for.
Andy Holloway
It was an overspend of 20.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Ended up being 20. Now I had a mid 20 on Harold Fannin. Should I have not gotten Juwan and I would not have gotten Fannin.
Jason Moore
He went for like 33.
Mike Wright
He went for in the 30s. So it was. I looked at my situation, knew I had to get one of those two guys and just accepted. I'm burning.
Andy Holloway
Here's.
Mike Wright
I'm going to burn some cash. But I believe in them and I need them.
Andy Holloway
Here's what I think is the most important takeaway from that. Mike. You spent 27 to get one of those two tight ends that you needed. The next Highest bid was 7. So you can say it was a bad bid. In the end you have Juwan Johnson who you needed and your team is better because of it.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
It's also very funny because if the bid behind him had been 26, you would have felt like it was the right amount to spend.
Mike Wright
Exactly.
Jason Moore
It's the same amount of fab no matter what. It's just a perspective thing. Right. Like if I had and you spent 27, you'd be dunking on me. Yes. Like I got him. So yeah, if you need a player, go get him. We do give you a guide in the waiver wire, custom waiver wire rankings in our ultimate dashboard that you can use. But you know, speaking of dunking, I.
Andy Holloway
Just want to say when I. When I said that I spent 19 for. For huge and Al was like not going to get him. Yeah, I'll spent 1840.
Jason Moore
I screenshotted it in Slack there where my bid was 24.
Mike Wright
He had a technological malfunction.
Jason Moore
He's the one that runs our tech.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it is.
Jason Moore
Okay, so maybe you're hearing this, maybe you're not. All right, Nate, in Canada half PPR league. Should I bench Tyreek Hill for either of these two players?
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Keenan Allen.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Or Hollywood Brown?
Andy Holloway
Probably both.
Mike Wright
Dude.
Jason Moore
It's amazing how I'm still afraid of seeing Tyreek Hill on the other side of my matchup. I really am. Like, I'm playing somebody this week. They have Tyree Kill and I still see it and I'm like I'm afraid of the big play and he hasn't had a 30 yard reception in a year. But I'm still scared.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, I get it to a looked terrible against the Colts now that one week. We don't want to overreact from one week. But it's not just one week. Like for Tyreek, it's one week plus age plus one year. He was terrible last year.
Jason Moore
You know, he's probably getting traded. I would say that the chance of him ending the season on the Dolphins is very low. Very low.
Andy Holloway
Go back to the Chiefs.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Or someplace that wants to make a push with one dude.
Mike Wright
Maybe.
Jason Moore
I think he will be gone and just a. So I don't know what Tyreek is for your waddle shares or whatever is.
Andy Holloway
Certainly not someone that you can't start. He's going to get a lot of target.
Mike Wright
Those other two names, I would start over.
Jason Moore
Hollywood Brown.
Mike Wright
The Hollywood Brown one's going to feel bad because you're like when you're just looking at the floor and the median of what could happen for that. But if I had the two of them, I think I would do it.
Jason Moore
Hollywood Brown's story in Kansas City is injuries alone. That's all it is. When he's been on the field for them. He has been targeted at such a crazy rate. He came back at the end of last year and in limited snaps he was constantly targeted. He is a very good and capable receiver. And we're talking about. We brought up juju Smith, Schuster on this show.
Mike Wright
Correct.
Jason Moore
Juju Smith Schuster is not the receiver. Hollywood Brown currently is.
Mike Wright
We did have an update here on Miami Dolphin news of head coach McDaniel talking about Darren Waller. Guys, I don't know if McDaniel is.
Andy Holloway
Going to go good, too.
Mike Wright
He said, quote, I expect. Are you going to play it?
Jason Moore
I guess, sure. Begrudgingly.
Mike Wright
I expect to not know what to expect until later on this week.
Jason Moore
Hold on. He said that?
Mike Wright
Yeah. Hold on, hold on. We may get to a point where we realize the risk is too great for the rest of the season and we'll have to do what's best for the team. We're ramping up.
Andy Holloway
We're just.
Mike Wright
We have the ramp. This isn't. This is a ramp to infinity.
Jason Moore
This is like starting the rocket ship up and then powering it down and it never launches.
Andy Holloway
Sure glad you traded for him out of retirement and paid him. Yeah. Trade.
Jason Moore
He's a genius. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
He's doing work. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Waller.
Jason Moore
Oh, my God.
Mike Wright
And we did have a.
Jason Moore
Team is in trouble.
Mike Wright
We did have a note that I'm seeing that. That quinch on Judkins not practicing because everything yesterday was like, oh, he's going to practice tomorrow.
Andy Holloway
I believe he is not practicing because he's meeting with the NFL. Is that what's going on?
Mike Wright
Let me look that up on 1.
Jason Moore
2, 3 NFL Street. Is he going to visit?
Mike Wright
Just saying, like, if he's not practicing on a Wednesday.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that is it. That's what he's doing.
Mike Wright
He can't be playing.
Jason Moore
We'll see. We'll see what happens this week. We'll take a break. We'll jump back into some more questions.
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Andy Holloway
Okay, so as of an hour ago, right now, Judkins is in New York City today meeting with the NFL. The plan is for Judkins to practice tomorrow and Friday to determine his availability for Sunday.
Jason Moore
At that point, Gary. Okay, I mean, that's good to know. Gary in York is trading T. Higgins to the borough manager for AJ Brown and good trade.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Yep.
Mike Wright
I'd rather have a. Yeah. Week one for A.J. well, Jason. Yeah, you're. You're A.J. brown's on your league of record team, your most important team. How. Where does your level of. If you had T. Higgins, would you be trading it for A.J.
Jason Moore
Brown?
Andy Holloway
I would rather have A.J. brown. If this was a redraft right now, everything we know in week one, I would take AJ Brown ahead of T. Higgins. There are plenty of wide receivers have bad games and I don't expect this to be the last bad game for AJ Brown this season by any means, but it will 100% be chock full of lots of big games. I was, I forget which DB it was. They were interviewing some great DB and it was like, who are the best five current wide receivers in the NFL? And he was like, well, Chase and Jefferson, of course. I think CD AJ Brown. And then he really struggled with five. It was like he puts them in there. And you look at last year, there were games where 2 for 36 for AJ Brown. You know, he had some games where he just disappeared and then plenty of awesome ones.
Jason Moore
Yeah, we may, we may be accepting a new reality for A.J. brown, though. Yeah. In the last couple of years, Kirk wants to know, would you trade either CMC or Derek Henry for Justin Jefferson in a PPR league or just keep the running backs? Oh man, I would probably keep the running backs.
Mike Wright
I would keep the running backs.
Jason Moore
Andrew in Idaho. What's up folk land?
Mike Wright
What's up?
Jason Moore
Should I start Marvin Harrison Jr. This week or ride the high from a mecca Buca and play him instead? Thanks guys. Love the show. Obviously got Abu Khalate then and has the start sit decision. Marvin Harrison against Carolina. I am worried that the Cardinals will run all over Carolina and that may limit Harrison. Yeah, I would play a Buka.
Mike Wright
I was concerned they were going to run all over the Saints as well.
Jason Moore
Carolina is worse. Yeah, I mean, it's very possible that the Carolina has offensive success, which would change things.
Andy Holloway
The Buccaneers are going on the road to the Houston Texans defense that looked, you know, great against the Rams. I think it's a really close call between these two guys.
Jason Moore
Stingley will be on Evans.
Andy Holloway
Eileen, the Marvin Harrison side, they both.
Mike Wright
Saw the same amount of targets.
Jason Moore
So Mike make the decision.
Mike Wright
I would play.
Jason Moore
Let's put it all on Mike.
Andy Holloway
I agree.
Jason Moore
Mike Wright win or lose right here.
Mike Wright
Then it's time to win. And I would play Marv.
Jason Moore
Okay, all right. Tyler or Abuka? Okay, all right.
Mike Wright
I would. I'd play Marv if I had them both.
Jason Moore
Tyler has a question. Another drop candidate is Luther Burden droppable in redraft? Luther Burden did nothing in week one. I it's just the problem I had with Burden was not the skill or talent. I loved him coming out of college. It was like it was DJ Moore, Roma, Dunes A.
Andy Holloway
You know, you're now Olson Loveland. You didn't come in.
Mike Wright
The real problem, the real problem is Zacchaeus.
Jason Moore
Oh yeah, it was in this week. He did play 27% of snaps but only had one target.
Mike Wright
I am fine dropping Luther Burden right now. The I do have a long view of him that by the second half he will be on the field over Zakiyas and then we will see.
Jason Moore
I love this question because it's so brutal. Ben in Kansas City, should I consider trading Malik Neighbors for jsn?
Andy Holloway
Oh, that is brutal.
Jason Moore
It's brutal. We just talked about the wider or the quarterback situation in New York, which let me apologize. Oh yeah, I got fooled by. Oh yeah, I got fooled.
Andy Holloway
I did too. I was in that too.
Mike Wright
And then you guys fooled me with. You're being fooled.
Jason Moore
Well, when we twice the fool these microphones, it sounds authoritative, Mike. And I don't blame you for listening to us. But listen, we got fooled by a bad tweet that had claimed that Brian Dable had gone to ownership about Jackson Dart. It was false. I was tricked. Jason was tricked and whoops, it happens. It does happen and I apologize and I'm sorry for yesterday's conversation completely based on that.
Mike Wright
Also on the heels of that though, we will all be tricked yet again this week as Russell Wilson remains the starting quarterback for the Giants.
Jason Moore
Just like our eyes will be tricked into having to watch a bad game. Look, Malik Navy, according to a report.
Andy Holloway
From me, Brian Dable should go to ownership and ask if Jackson Dart may start.
Jason Moore
I was a believer in JSN being a top tier true top five Candidate this year. Malik Neighbors. It was. You don't want to overreact to one good week from JSN and one bad week from Malik Neighbors and be like, okay, like, I would probably stay with Neighbors.
Andy Holloway
I would.
Jason Moore
But I don't think it's going to be that much of a difference between the two.
Andy Holloway
I agree. The gap is not what it was perceived before the season. If you watch the targets. I watched every single Malik Neighbors target last night. They are so, so bad and I feel bad. He had 12 targets. He only caught five of those balls. Not his fault. It can't get.
Mike Wright
Did you like when you were watching. Did you feel like the all whatever.
Andy Holloway
The all 22.
Mike Wright
No, no, no. The all incomplete passes were not his fault.
Andy Holloway
Pretty much. I mean, you know, he looked excellent. Malik Neighbors looked excellent. But my point here is he had four. Five for 71. That's not a bad game at all when you have awful Puget like the. If that's the floor. Amazing. You know what I mean? That's my point.
Jason Moore
And it is the floor for him. It absolutely is. Quarterbacks will change, but the offense can't exist without throwing him the ball a ton. So that. That makes a ton of sense. The milkman in Iowa writing in the. It does say. It just says milkman. Oh.
Andy Holloway
Oh. Could have been any milkman father to many.
Jason Moore
Do we. Do we have any milkman?
Andy Holloway
Oh, that's a good.
Mike Wright
That's up there with your 1800s joke. It's about the same timeline.
Jason Moore
Are there milkman the to be some milk.
Mike Wright
There has to the baby boomers listening to the show. Love that joke.
Jason Moore
I feel like people are more into like that's true. Like organic, like pure. Like they want milk. Raw milk. Like, I feel like there's milkman again. I feel like they're back, but I want to believe that they go into the attic and dust off their old.
Mike Wright
Milkman uniform and like we are so we are back.
Jason Moore
Let's get. Let's get on the road. But. And he's in Iowa. I don't know if your opponent has a star wide receiver on their team. Is it beneficial to stream that receiver's quarterback? My brother has Nico Collins And I have C.J. stroud. It's not. You want the most points at your quarterback position possible. There is a small if Nico was the only good player your brother had, I could. I could understand like you could neutralize that. There's been a situation like that where I've neutralized the one good player on a team.
Andy Holloway
Usually though, if you have one good player who's like, like a Malik neighbors where the target share is going to be unbelievable. And the vast majority of the fantasy points comes from Malik neighbors. You want the wide receiver, not the quarterback because each one of those plays the wide receiver scores more than the quarterback does. For points for receptions. All of that.
Jason Moore
Yeah. If you could choose. Yeah. In this situation, I would just want to get the most points because guess what else neutralizes him, outscoring him. Yeah. If you, if you, if Nico Collins scores 20 and CJ Strad scores 20, cool. You did it. But if you have a quarterback that scored 25, you score more points. All right, that was today's mailbag. Watch every game, Every Sunday with NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV. Visit YouTube.com fantasy footballers local and national games on YouTube TV NFL Sunday Ticket for out of market games. Base plan required. Exclusive excludes digital only games. Commercial use excluded no refunds. That is it for today's episode of the show. We got starts to the week and the matchups for week two. We'll get into tomorrow as we get ready for the Thursday night football game again. Check out jointhefoot.com if you want bonus weekly episodes of the show, the Ultimate Dashboard and the waiver wire tool, among many others. Thanks for joining us today. Take care.
Mike Wright
Goodbye.
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Episode Date: September 10, 2025
In this packed episode, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright dive into a pivotal time of the fantasy season: post-Week 1 waiver runs, critical trade decisions, early reactions to preseason takes, a preview of the Thursday Night Football (TNF) matchup, and insightful Mailbag questions. The hosts bring their signature mix of sharp fantasy analysis, lighthearted banter, and actionable advice, helping managers navigate waivers, lineups, and trades as the season heats up.
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Upbeat, conversational, and irreverent, the trio delivers analysis through back-and-forth banter, playful jabs (“I believe Sharps had the ball and you go, oh sure, you blocked for Sharps.” – Andy, 14:19), and clear, direct advice. They bring real transparency to their fantasy play (own league moves, misses as well as hits), keeping the audience both informed and entertained.
If you missed the episode, this summary provides the full playbook—both the X’s and O’s, and a little bit of locker room fun.