The TRUTH About Fantasy QBs in 2018, Part 2

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - "The TRUTH About Fantasy QBs in 2018, Part 2"

Release Date: January 31, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Episode Title: The TRUTH About Fantasy QBs in 2018, Part 2

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Introduction and Setup (00:00 - 07:29)

The episode kicks off with the hosts engaging in their signature playful banter, setting a light-hearted and entertaining tone for the discussion ahead. Mike Wright humorously informs listeners that Andy Holloway, the usual leader, is "down with the sickness," prompting Jason Moore to jest about the trio resembling characters from Star Trek.

Notable Quote:
Mike Wright [01:07]: "I am everything and nothing at the exact same time."

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Quick Question Segment (07:29 - 07:45)

Mike introduces a "Quick Question" segment sourced from their social media followers. The question posed is: "If you could pick any two people to sub in for Romo and Nance announcing the Super Bowl, who would they be?"

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [03:06]: "We would sub in for them. The problem is, I feel like we're both color commentators."

The hosts share a mix of humorous and creative responses, referencing pop culture icons like characters from Dodgeball and personalities like Pat McAfee, highlighting the community's engagement and creativity.

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Main Discussion: Analyzing 2018 Fantasy Quarterbacks (07:45 - 59:45)

The core of the episode delves deep into the performance and consistency of various quarterbacks (QBs) from the 2018 NFL season, categorized by the Fantasy Footballers' proprietary consistency rankings.

1. Aaron Rodgers

• Performance: Finished as the sixth-ranked QB in points.
• Consistency Rank: 11
• Analysis:
  Mike criticizes Rodgers for not living up to his draft position, noting that while he remained a solid pick, he wasn't the top-tier QB expected. Jason points out that Rodgers' increase in missed passes and reliance on a declining offense contributed to his lower consistency.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [12:19]: "The difference between if you're 4.5% or 5.5% is monumental."

2. Jared Goff

• Performance: Started strong but faltered in the latter part of the season.
• Consistency Rank: 13
• Analysis: Jared had an impressive early season but experienced a significant downturn after losing key players like Coopers on offensive lines. The lack of a stable supporting cast led to inconsistent performances.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [19:49]: "I believe that Jameis Winston is the perfect late-round quarterback because you look at his whole splits against good defenses and bad defenses."

3. Drew Brees

• Performance: Ranked eighth in points but struggled in the fantasy playoffs.
• Consistency Rank: 14
• Analysis: Brees had a mixed season with high-scoring games but also significant busts, particularly during crucial playoff weeks. Jason expresses concerns about Brees' declining performance due to age and offensive line issues.

Notable Quote:
Mike Wright [20:15]: "Drew Brees comes in at number eight, but a consistency rank of number 14."

4. Kirk Cousins

• Performance: Consistent early but declined after an offensive coordinator change.
• Consistency Rank: 16
• Analysis: Kirk showed promise with a pass-heavy offense but struggled once the team shifted towards a more run-oriented strategy. The inconsistency in play-calling and reduced passing attempts impacted his fantasy reliability.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [36:16]: "He was up to week 11, then things changed dramatically."

5. Cam Newton

• Performance: Finished 13th in points.
• Consistency Rank: 6
• Analysis: Newton had an impressive season until a shoulder injury derailed his performance. While his ability to surge was valuable, the injury risk and inconsistent game outcomes posed challenges for fantasy managers.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [40:33]: "It's all about price and health."

6. Tom Brady

• Performance: Ranked 14th in points.
• Consistency Rank: 18
• Analysis: Brady's performance declined as the Patriots moved towards a run-first offense, reducing his passing touchdowns. Despite his legendary status, his lower consistency made him a less attractive option for fantasy players.

Notable Quote:
Mike Wright [41:13]: "Tom Brady is great, but he's not a guy that good fantasy players will rely on anymore."

7. Mitchell Trubisky

• Performance: Ranked 15th in points.
• Consistency Rank: 24
• Analysis: Trubisky had sporadic performances with a brief period of success but overall lacked the consistency needed for reliable fantasy scoring. The hosts express skepticism about his future potential.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [47:07]: "Mitchell Trubisky had games that crushed you."

8. Josh Allen

• Performance: Finished with a lower consistency score due to early-season injuries.
• Consistency Rank: 17 (overall), but highly consistent in the latter half.
• Analysis: Despite a rocky start and injuries, Allen demonstrated significant improvement and consistency in the latter part of the season, making him a promising late-round pick for the future.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [50:19]: "He would have been the number two most consistent quarterback from that second half."

9. Lamar Jackson

• Performance: Highly mobile QB with strong rushing stats.
• Consistency Rank: 10
• Analysis: Jackson showcased his dual-threat capability, making him a valuable fantasy asset. The hosts are optimistic about his potential but caution about the physical toll of his playing style.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [52:14]: "I don’t believe for one second that Lamar Jackson is going to be able to hold up for an entire season if they continue using him in the running game the way they did this season."

10. Carson Wentz

• Performance: Ranked 19th in points.
• Consistency Rank: 33
• Analysis: Wentz showed flashes of brilliance but was hampered by injuries and inconsistent performances. Despite this, his talent keeps him in consideration for future drafts, albeit at a lower value.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [54:07]: "He'll get a solid bump down in ADP and he'll be a very interesting guy for me."

11. Jameis Winston

• Performance: Ranked 22nd in points.
• Consistency Rank: 12
• Analysis: Winston had a strong finish after a rocky start, especially under Bruce Arians in Tampa Bay. His ability to exploit weak defenses makes him a viable streaming option for fantasy managers.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [57:06]: "He was great against the bad competition and only 19 points per game against the top 16."

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Humorous Interlude and Light Banter (35:34 - 58:35)

Throughout the analysis, the hosts interweave humor and camaraderie, referencing inside jokes, playful insults, and pop culture. Examples include debates over iconic characters like Captain Kirk vs. Picard, humorous takes on quarterbacks' nicknames (e.g., "The Plant Man" for Tom Brady), and light-hearted exchanges about mascot sweat.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [57:37]: "Tom Brady was living his best life on a weekly basis."

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Closing Remarks and Promotions (58:35 - 59:45)

As the episode wraps up, the hosts briefly touch upon their studio sponsor, Pristine Auction, and promote upcoming deals and giveaways. They encourage listeners to join their fantasy football community and follow them on social media for more insights and updates.

Notable Quote:
Mike Wright [59:31]: "Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast."

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Key Takeaways

1. Consistency is Crucial: Fantasy managers should prioritize quarterbacks who consistently deliver solid performances rather than those who have high variance.
2. Injury Risks Matter: Players like Cam Newton and Josh Allen highlight the balance between potential high scores and the risk of injury impacting season-long performance.
3. Team Dynamics Influence Performance: Changes in coaching staff, offensive strategies, and supporting casts significantly affect a quarterback's fantasy value.
4. Late-Round Gems: Quarterbacks with high upside but lower consistency can be valuable late-round picks, offering significant rewards if they maintain their performance levels.

Final Thoughts

The Fantasy Footballers provide an in-depth and nuanced analysis of the quarterback landscape from the 2018 NFL season, blending statistical insights with engaging commentary. Their discussion emphasizes the importance of evaluating both performance and consistency, equipping fantasy managers with the knowledge to make informed decisions in their drafts and weekly lineups.

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Transcript

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, girls, children of all ages, I'm talking to you, Jason Moore.

[Jason Moore]

I am all of those things. Thank you for talking to me so broadly.

[Mike Wright]

I am everything and nothing at the exact same time. Welcome to the podcast, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Our fearless leader, our Captain Kirk, he's a man down right now. He's down with the sickness. Too much disturbed. Get better, Andy Holloway, but we're holding it down. I am your host for today, Mike the fantasy Hitman. Right. Jason Moore is to my right.

[Jason Moore]

I am happy to be here. I feel like. I feel like you're more of a. You're more of a Kirk. Andy would be more of a Jean Luc.

[Mike Wright]

He's a Picard.

[Jason Moore]

He's a Picard.

[Mike Wright]

Look.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I got the look for Picard.

[Mike Wright]

I gladly accept being Captain Kirk over Picard. Yeah, look, Captain Captain Kirk lived his best life on it on a weekly basis.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he did. Beating up monsters and just being a ridiculous human being.

[Mike Wright]

And of course, cardboard bear extraordinaire, Jay Grizz holding it down over there.

[Jason Moore]

We're gonna have to fight, me and him when we get to Mitchell Trubisky today. Oh, yeah, I'm bringing. I'm gonna take. I'm a steal your salmon, son.

[Mike Wright]

That is a great point. Let's get into the quick question. We put this out on social media, had a lot of buzz, a lot of great answers for this. But I pose this to you, Jason, if you could pick. Now, Jason, I need you to listen very carefully. I'm listening very carefully because the question.

[Jason Moore]

I know you don't like my answer.

[Mike Wright]

The question is distinct. There is nothing that could shake the foundation of the question, of the wording for this question.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to really tune in.

[Mike Wright]

If you could pick any two people to sub in for Romo and Nance announcing the super bowl, who would it be?

[Jason Moore]

For entertainment purposes, give me Romo Give me Romo now. Jason Al Michaels.

[Mike Wright]

I said. I said without a shadow of a doubt. Make sure you listen to the question verbatim.

[Jason Moore]

I heard your question, but I saw, look, he came to the bench and I was like, oh, no, shoot. Get back out there. We need you. He subbed in for himself. Look, if I had to.

[Mike Wright]

If I had to call the timeout so he could just get back in without missing a play.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. If I got to take Romo out, then I got to go. Now that we're down to two, I'd probably go, you and me?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, we would submat.

[Jason Moore]

We would sub in for them. The problem is, I feel like we're both color commentators.

[Mike Wright]

We are.

[Jason Moore]

We would just, like, we don't need to do the whole play by play. Like you're watching the game. You. You see what happens, like, oh, he fires, you know, he kicks the ball. It's a high looping. No, just watch the plays. We'll. We'll give you the color.

[Mike Wright]

It would also be a lot of that guy.

[Jason Moore]

Look at that guy.

[Mike Wright]

Look what he did.

[Jason Moore]

I really doubt it would be Mike. The. Shame on you if that's true. We had some great answers coming in off the socials. A lot of Madden and Summerall my personal favorite, which when I read this, shame, shame, shame on me for not.

[Mike Wright]

Coming up with it.

[Jason Moore]

Well, for one, not coming up with it and two, not immediately getting the reference. I went, wait, who's that? Oh, yes, who is Pepper brooks and Cotton McKnight.

[Mike Wright]

Pepper needs new shorts.

[Jason Moore]

It's a bold move, Cotton.

[Mike Wright]

That's the announcers from Dodgeball. A lot of Will Ferrell and John C. Reilly. WWF or E, depending on where you. Where you're coming from. Just classic Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler and a lot of people wanted Morgan Freeman and. Or Snoop Dogg.

[Jason Moore]

It was a high kick, looping in the air. I saw a ton of Pat. Pat McAfee. Yeah, the. The ex punter who is such a fun guy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's a unique fella.

[Jason Moore]

He's a unique fella. He'll. He'll. He'll have you entertained.

[Mike Wright]

He'll bring some hype.

[Jason Moore]

Mark Waltenberg.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Mark Waltenberg. Not Mark Walton.

[Mike Wright]

Mark Waltenberg. No, fictitious person.

[Jason Moore]

A fake person commentating. I'll be the sideline reporter dressed up as the fictitious. Fictitious person.

[Mike Wright]

Speaking of socials, you can follow us. You can be watching this show right now. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. Follow us on socials @the ffballers. Twitter. You can check out the Instagram we're working on that. Instagram.com fantasy footballers. And thank you for listening on Apple Podcasts. Hit that subscribe button. Leave us a friendly review. Spotify. And you can also listen to the show ad free on Stitcher Premium. And before we jump any further, I want to remind people the footballers are only here twice a week.

[Jason Moore]

That's so. That's so sad.

[Mike Wright]

That's only nonsense. And some sense. Twice a week.

[Jason Moore]

Perfect. No, you nailed it. That was perfect. There's some sense of this show 100%. There's some sense.

[Mike Wright]

If you'd like to throw that completely out the window and go 100% nonsense, we have an entertainment only podcast called the Spitballers podcast. It drops every single Monday. Highly encourage you to check it out. If you like this show, you're gonna slide right into that. Absolutely no problem. There is. We're gonna skip the news today.

[Jason Moore]

See, people are like, they can never tell their friends about this show.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Because we're the secret weapon. They're like, no, I want to. I want to win the championship. I want the hashtag foot Claire title.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

I don't tell my league mates about you. You can share that show. Absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

And that's our.

[Jason Moore]

But that's our sleeper cell where we're.

[Mike Wright]

Just like, you can't tell people about the footballers, but you tell them about this show and then they find out about the footballers.

[Jason Moore]

Do you think people are worried about that? Like genuine question. The people that don't tell people, maybe they're listening to Spitballers. They're loving it. They want to share it with the friends. They want to have a good time so they can share in all those inside jokes. But then they go, eventually we'll get back. They'll get back.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

Just share it.

[Mike Wright]

It's definitely possible. But hey, no news. If you are starting a dynasty league, you got to check out the sleeper app and the sleeper platform. We highly recommend that. Jay, let's get back into the truth.

[Jason Moore]

You want answers?

[Mike Wright]

I think I'm entitled.

[Jason Moore]

You want answers? I want the truth. You can't handle the truth.

[Mike Wright]

This is quarterbacks part two. If you missed the top five, it's in part one.

[Jason Moore]

Just go back.

[Mike Wright]

That was Tuesday's show. Jay, break down what we are talking about for these quarterbacks.

[Jason Moore]

So we take a look and we go through and actually, you know, if there's, if there's a game that the player missed, that's not counted. Nobody started them. If they played two snaps and got a concussion, you know, allah, Aaron Rodgers, Week 17. We left that in because you people started that player. And so we wanted to take a look at what is the truth on these quarterbacks, not just where do they finish. You know, we're going to talk about Aaron Rodgers here in a second. He finished quarterback six in four point scoring. But was he as consistent? Was he the sixth most consistent? Did he actually help you win on a regular basis or did he cause losses in fantasy? And we'll take a look at that. We categorize them into three categories. Great games. Great games where you are basically usually going to land in the top three at the quarterback. Like you won the week on the back of that quarter.

[Mike Wright]

The quarterback carried.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you Pat Mahomes that week, a good game where you score more than 17 points and you're on average going to be in the top 12 at the position. And then the games where you bust where you. So there's that in between period where you just had a game. But then the games where if your quarterback was.

[Mike Wright]

They just had a game.

[Jason Moore]

Right. Like he's not good, but he didn't kill me.

[Mike Wright]

He just had a game.

[Jason Moore]

He just had a game.

[Mike Wright]

Usually with the phrase had a game infers that something very positive happened.

[Jason Moore]

I'm an unusual fella.

[Mike Wright]

Mike Brooks, Are you following me on that?

[Jason Moore]

I'm with you, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

I had a game, which is, it's funny to. It's a funny phrase to imply that you crush. Yeah, I had a game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I had a game.

[Mike Wright]

How about I had a humble brag.

[Jason Moore]

I had a meh. No.

[Mike Wright]

You were trying to go a full mic right of meh. Meh.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I had a mem. That's the new game.

[Mike Wright]

It's not as easy as you think.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you're a pro mehr. But yeah, he had a meh. Otherwise the bust games, those are the ones where he's not even in the top half of the league, not in the top 16 at the position. Mistakes were made, you're scoring fewer than 15 points and they. You probably did not overcome that just awful quarterback performance that week. And then we put it to our proprietary ranking and come up with their consistency rank.

[Mike Wright]

So number six on the year. You alluded to it, Mr. Aaron Rodgers, number six on the year. But a consistency rank of 11.

[Jason Moore]

I mean that's.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Look where you took Aaron Rodgers and nobody, when you draft Aaron Rodgers, you had him all year. Nobody traded Aaron Rodgers because you were the guy that reached for him and took him high and other, other people. When he's Disappointing and not being the number one quarterback. He wasn't Pat Mahomes this year. He was the number six quarterback. So nobody's trading for Aaron Rodgers. He's, he's been a disappointment. So you hold on to him and you're not, you're not going away from Aaron Rodgers. You drafted him high. You're not switching out and putting in, you know, Josh Allen over Aaron Rodgers in most situations. So you just roll with.

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, excellent, excellent.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Stallion. Thank you, Mike. Yeah. So Aaron Rodgers was a guy you, you played every single week all year long. And did he help you?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So certainly not for where you drafted him.

[Mike Wright]

He didn't. The problem was Aaron Rodgers, only 19% of his games were great. And that's where Aaron Rodgers. It usually rains supreme.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Aaron Rodgers will have so many. Four touchdown games because, you know, he's. We've talked about this in the past. He's had a large chunk of years from 2011 on where he was averaging. When he had Jordy, he was averaging 40 touchdowns a season.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, he was checking the mic. He was, he was either one or he was number two.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Every year on the season.

[Jason Moore]

One, two, one, two.

[Mike Wright]

That's why he earned his spot.

[Jason Moore]

25 touchdowns this year.

[Mike Wright]

But only 19% of his games were great. 56% were still good. He only busted 19% of the time, which for a quarterback is still a solid number. This is what I wanted to bring up about Aaron Rodgers. You taught the 25 touchdowns that is, or that is an anomaly for Aaron Rodgers. This was his lowest touchdown percentage by over or by an entire 1% since he became a starter in 2008.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, that's not, that's not completion percentage, where, oh, 1% is nothing. Touchdown percent. The difference between if you're 4 and a half percent or 5 and a half percent is monumental.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, yeah, the last. Here's his last three years, 2015. 5.4, 6.6, 6.7. He plummeted to 4.2. Was this a causation of Aaron Rodgers being getting a little long in the tooth for you or was this a product of the team around?

[Jason Moore]

I will say this. When I watched Aaron Rodgers this year, he did not. Some of this has to fall on Aaron Rodgers. I don't think it's long in the tooth. I don't think he's not going to be able to bounce back. I don't think this is the beginning of the end or any of those things. Some of this does have to fall on him. There were passes that you just don't see Aaron Rodgers miss that he missed on the reg. I mean he was just, you know, regularly missing some of those.

[Mike Wright]

He was lacking his Metamucil but I.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he needed to be a little bit more regular and you know, the issue though is not just that there is the double whammy of outside of Devonte Adams. There was just crap. There's a bunch of rookies trying to figure it out. They'd have some good games. No one knew Marquez Valdez scantling would step up from time to time.

[Mike Wright]

Equanimous was there.

[Jason Moore]

You have the ghost of Randall Cobb. Yeah, you know he's, he's done. And then the ghost of Jimmy Graham. So that was part of it. And then you combine that with the worst imaginable, least creative route concepts from head coach Mike McCarthy which is why he gets the boot. So next year it's going to be interesting to see what they do. Cobb is a free agent. I'm sure he's gone. There's no way I would believe so that they're going to pay to bring him back. The early report is that they are going to pay to bring Jimmy Graham back. Sorry Green Bay packers fans and, but they've got a, you know, hopefully that the rookies that they drafted last year step up and with their new, you know, offensive minded coach, they can, they can do a little bit more.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, his ADP is going to be a fascinating thing to watch because he was always the number one or the number two quarterback that you would go after. Clearly he won't be number one, he'll.

[Jason Moore]

Be number two behind.

[Mike Wright]

You think he'll stick number two?

[Jason Moore]

I think he will stick at number two. He'll be drafted behind Pat Mahomes. That's my guess.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. Next on the list.

[Jason Moore]

Jared Garfield.

[Mike Wright]

The player formerly known as King Godfrey who is now known as Jared Garf for some stupid reason on this show.

[Jason Moore]

Hope you are member of the foot clan. Over on Join the Foot. That was a foot cast.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Breakdown. I mean, yeah, we literally broke down. My glasses were fogging up. We were crying over the stupidity of accidentally saying garf.

[Mike Wright]

Number seven. Number seven on the final list, but number 13 in your heart and the consistency rank, Jared Goff. I can't even. I got halfway through his name. It was like this is wrong.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, it's Garf.

[Mike Wright]

The first half of the season, even more than the half, I would say two thirds of the season was fantastic. 31% of his games were great. 63% of his games were at least good, but then the wheels fell off.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, they did.

[Mike Wright]

31% bust rate. If you rode Jared Goff into the fantasy playoffs, you did not make it. Or I should say highly unlikely. You survived what he gave you those weeks because it was putrid.

[Jason Moore]

So here's something interesting. I'm going to take a 30,000 foot view for a second go away from Jared Ger.

[Mike Wright]

I hope you have a spacesuit.

[Jason Moore]

Is that, is that space? 30,000 is too high. Is that. No, look, do airplanes.

[Mike Wright]

I know. Brian Cox. I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

I think 30,000.

[Mike Wright]

Is that cruising altitude?

[Jason Moore]

I think that's cruising altitude.

[Mike Wright]

Well, to be fair, you still need a spacesuit if you were outside of the, of a commercial airline.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, if I'm. No, I don't think that's true.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, you would freeze to death.

[Jason Moore]

I'm falling. I'm going to warm up anyways, so wait, let's. Oh, Dad's away and we are just whatever we want. Congratulations foot plan on this episode. Thank you. We'll. We'll rein it in. Jay.

[Mike Wright]

Never.

[Jason Moore]

But here's what I wanted to look at. So there's an interesting thing. You'll start to see a pattern here as we're talking. When we talk about Jared Goff, when we talk about Drew Brees, when we talk about Philip Rivers, Kirk Cousins. All of a sudden this year there was this massive trend of these quarterbacks who had such an amazing first two thirds of the season and they all fell off. I went and I, and I looked at all of these quarterbacks that I just named and I took out weeks 13 through the rest of the season. And during that stretch, if you took those games away from them, they were all basically, if you did it one at a time, they all jumped to the quarterback consistency rating of like number two. Everyone was there, but the problem was they all hit this wall or defense is caught up, whichever it is. And that's where I think we need to say what is the truth of the quarterback position? Because this year you could get to the playoffs with all those quarterbacks I named. But if you kept rolling with them and you weren't willing to stay water and pivot come that last five weeks and that's tough.

[Mike Wright]

Jared Goff, from weeks two through 11, the quarterback two in total points. Yes, he was, he was, he was playing fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

He was on fire. I mean, and like I said, if you take out his last weeks, he was the quarterback consistency during that time.

[Mike Wright]

Of quarterback too, I'm going to check, but I don't remember off the top of my head, when did Gurley no Cooper Cup?

[Jason Moore]

It was before week 13. It was definitely before then. I don't think that it was the Cup.

[Mike Wright]

So his final game was 10, week 10.

[Jason Moore]

So it's, it's near then week 11, the next week he had a great week, but then it than the bye week and he was off. So the question when it comes to Jared Goff is which version was the real thing? Because when it comes to Drew Brees, you can have a different argument. Like was the arm getting a little weaker at that age down the stretch, you know, you saw this from some of the aging quarterbacks. Jared Goff, I think it was more of a team thing. We lost Cooper cup, lost Todd Gurley.

[Mike Wright]

I think there's a lot to this Cooper cup thing because you can look at when Jared Goff was great, then all of a sudden week six you hit a snag. You know what week six was?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

That's when we thought Cooper cup was out for the season and had zero receptions. So I think they're. Cooper cup is extremely important to this.

[Jason Moore]

Offense and as is. As his. As a. C.J.

[Mike Wright]

Anderson.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, yes, I believe future Super Bowl MVP.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. C.J.

[Jason Moore]

Anderson.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, please let it happen.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I would.

[Mike Wright]

Please let it happen.

[Jason Moore]

I would ascend immediately. I would just. I'm gone from the show. My belief is that Jared Goff is a guy I'm going to go hard after next year. I think because of how he finished the year. Poorly. Unless of course, he has some great Super Bowl. Super Bowl MVP performance and everybody's on him. I think what you saw the first two thirds of the season is more indicative of what you're going to get with Sean McVay with a high powered offense with health coming into a season. So I'm a fan of Jared Goff next season. I believe that it was team issues that caused the collapse in the last.

[Mike Wright]

Five weeks from young man to old man. Drew Brees comes in at number eight, but a consistency rank of number 14. Man, it was a strange season for Drew Brees who was absolutely crushing. 40% of his games were great and that's what carried him to that number eight finish because 33% of his games were bust.

[Jason Moore]

And you want to know when those.

[Mike Wright]

Games came, when it mattered for fantasy playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

They all came at the end of the season. Yeah, the fantasy playoffs. So, you know, that's where I question was it the arm? Was it actually the age, the wear, the tear, the season?

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

You know, you saw the Offensive line starting to give up a little bit more pressure. And he didn't. He didn't overcome that the way that you would have expected him to overcome that. Based on how he's playing the beginning of the year. I'm more worried about Drew Brees going into next season than I am Jared Goff, I would draft Goff over Breeze even if they were the same adp.

[Mike Wright]

And I didn't mention it for Jared Goff, but I'm going to say it now because he was the same as Drew Brees. The home road splits were incredible. Jared Goff was 13 points better at home. Drew Brees, you. I mean, we know that Drew Brees is better at home, but 11 points better at home, that's. That's hard to handle.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You know, for a full time starter.

[Jason Moore]

I'm glad you bring that up with golf because I do believe that a lot of the success of golf, when they're at home and they can quiet the place down and he can basically have Sean McVeigh, you know, they get to the line early and McVeigh, they. They put a man in motion. They take a look at what the defense is doing. They don't give him time to sub. And McVeigh basically will call in a play while he's still got the earpiece working before that turns off, which is like 15 seconds.

[Mike Wright]

15 seconds, I think.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Left on the. On the. I want to say shot clock. And I'm going to roll with that on the shot clock. Sure. And so on the road, when it's loud and noisy and you can't hear that and he can't just have Sean McVeigh in his head. I wonder if that makes an impact. And then you also saw certain ones of those road games that really impacted the home road split. We have to be fair. It's. There was the albatross of the game against Chicago.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Which was a super cold weather. I mean, this is a guy who grew up in California, went to California schools, you know, played it. He was Cal, right? Yeah. And then now he's Los Angeles. So now going to the cold weather game, I think in week 14, where he put up a negative point performance that's going to swing the tide of the home road splits.

[Mike Wright]

Do you have anything more for Drew Brees? What's your. How do you feel about Drew Brees entering into next year as we have? Drew Brees was one of the high, hottest contested players on this show.

[Jason Moore]

Definitely between you, I was super bullish.

[Mike Wright]

You were way off.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And somehow we both won.

[Jason Moore]

Somehow we both won. And honestly, going into next year, I'm higher on him than I was going into this season. I'm certainly not going to be bullish to the point of what he was doing early in this, this season. I think that he's. Look, he's a Hall of Famer. He's on a great offense, he's got everything you need. And he's going to be simply a matter of average draft position.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. Before we move on to the next quarterback, want to remind you the Fantasy Footballers Ultimate Draft Kit pre orders start Super Bowl Sunday.

[Jason Moore]

That's this Sunday.

[Mike Wright]

That is this Sunday.

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty awesome. Do you get anything extra for pre ordering?

[Mike Wright]

You absolutely do, but I can't remember off the top of my.

[Jason Moore]

You do order anytime from super bowl Sunday through March 1st.

[Mike Wright]

When it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, wait, through March 1st. So this is the early pre order. Oh, yeah. I'm getting you hyped.

[Mike Wright]

I'm getting news right now.

[Jason Moore]

Give it back. We're giving an additional $10 gift card to Shop Ballers. What? Obviously you get the early access to the Dynasty rankings and the rookie rankings.

[Mike Wright]

Which come out soon after the NFL draft. Just want to prepare people.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, correct. And we have a chance to win the ultimate Fantasy Footballers prize pack, including a studio tour. Sit in of the recording.

[Mike Wright]

That's unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

Just, just a bunch of awesome stuff. More, More details will come. Yeah, but my, you know, you already know you're getting Ultimate Draft kit. So on Super Bowl.

[Mike Wright]

So get it for the cheapest possible price and get some cool bonus stuff.

[Jason Moore]

Celebrate yourself.

[Mike Wright]

Where at, guys? Where do you. Oh, my goodness. Where would we be without Brooks?

[Jason Moore]

Thank you, Brooks. Ultimate Draft kit dot com. Okay, I'll go there on Sunday.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Bookmark it.

[Mike Wright]

Number nine, Russell Wilson on the year. However, number eight, inconsistency.

[Jason Moore]

He was. Yeah, I mean, he was solid, but never great. And that was. That was the issue.

[Mike Wright]

13% of his games were great. That's a putrid number for a top 10 quarterback. But 69% of his games were good. He only busted 25% of the time. He was completely hamstrung by his offense.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And that is the problem with Russell Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, you can't. You cannot because it's not changing. Well, yeah, I mean, they want to be a run, run, run the boat, you know, gently down the field type of team. Wow, look at the. Oh, no, thank you. I'll be here all day. So listen to these attempts for the career of Russell Wilson. These are the passing attempts and you'll.

[Mike Wright]

Notice I'm having trouble moving on from the joke.

[Jason Moore]

Jason. Thank you. This is a trend. 393 passing attempts. 407, 452.

[Mike Wright]

He was ascending.

[Jason Moore]

483, 546, 553 because they realized they.

[Mike Wright]

Had one of the better quarterbacks in the league and they said, hey, let's make it Russell Wilson's team.

[Jason Moore]

But then he went from 553 passing attempts down to 427. That's like his sophomore year in the league. And as great as he is, as efficient as he is, as much as he had a perfect Passer rating on 71 attempts to Tyler Lockett, you cannot be winning a fantasy championship on the back of 427 passing attempts. Unless your touchdown rate is just. I mean, what was his touchdown rate was astronomical. It's 8.2%.

[Mike Wright]

That's, that's, that's outlier number.

[Jason Moore]

And you still did not get enough from him because looking at it holistically right, it's not just the consistency that matters for a quarterback. To me, I need quarterbacks that boom. I need quarterbacks that put up 30 points. You know, I want those, those huge. Obviously everyone wants the Pat Mahomes weeks, but you look finished last year, Russell Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we, I'm going to vet that while you're working through your point.

[Jason Moore]

My point is I'm off Russell Wilson completely. He was what he was. As consistent as he was, as consistent as he, as he, as his finish was. And he finished number nine. And that sounds great. That sounds excellent.

[Mike Wright]

He was, he was number one last year and there's not much of a difference. Maybe it was just the other quarterbacks around him.

[Jason Moore]

He was, he did not put up huge games almost ever this year. And if my quarterback, and keep in mind Russell Wilson, you have to draft a little bit earlier. If my quarterback's not giving me huge, weak winning performances, no, thank you, I'm out. But for those reasons, I'm out. Because he's going to cost more than.

[Mike Wright]

Did you just Shark taste him?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And unfortunately he didn't make the cut.

[Mike Wright]

Look, he, he dropped about 500 passing yards. He went up a passing touchdown. I mean, it's got to be just the guys around him that, that happened to go up because. Oh, and dropping 200 rushing yards, that, that'll make a huge difference.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because.

[Mike Wright]

Come on, Russell, you need to run, buddy.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the thing is, is his rushing yards a lot of times came from those scramble plays. They came from calling a drop back passing attempt and they were doing. They were. He. He doesn't get to run the ball when he hands it off ever, right? Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So number 10, Dak Prescott.

[Jason Moore]

I was blown away when he number.

[Mike Wright]

10 on the, on the season, but number 20 in the consistency, however, it was a different story. Yes, it was a different story once the Dallas Cowboys traded for Amari Cooper.

[Jason Moore]

The first five weeks of the season, Dak was so incredible. Dak was so incredibly bad. He was the quarterback. 30 in fantasy for those first five felt really bad. It was.

[Mike Wright]

That felt bad.

[Jason Moore]

He was.

[Mike Wright]

Because I liked him.

[Jason Moore]

He was horrific. And the Cowboys looked like they were. I mean, you already knew that they were a dead team. They, you know their head coach is going to get replaced. Then the trade happened. They traded for Amari Cooper, and after he arrived, Prescott responded as a top eight quarterback in five of his next eight starts. He posted a 71% completion rate from week nine until the end of the season as the quarterback. Six during that span, he was.

[Mike Wright]

Are we back?

[Jason Moore]

I'm back.

[Mike Wright]

Dak Street. Dak Street's back. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Dak Streak's back.

[Mike Wright]

All right, all right. I like it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. Look, I mean, he was, he was. How can you blame him? Dak? When you lose Jason Whitten, you lose Des Bryant, you replace him with nothing. You downgrade the offensive line a little bit. I mean, they're not the, they're not the same unbelievable offensive line. So I mean, now all of a sudden, you get him a piece, you start to figure things out. I like the fact that they fired their offensive coordinator. That's huge news.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

And we'll talk about that on an upcoming show here pretty soon about all the coordinator and offensive head coaches changes and look, I think Dak is going to be a great pick next year. He, he's not a guy that's going to go early.

[Mike Wright]

I don't hate it.

[Jason Moore]

And as a late round guy, I want someone who has the chance to, to be great. And his rushing is what, you know, I mean, he had six rushing touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. And those, those will not go away.

[Jason Moore]

No, because they, they, they're not, they're not long breakaway touchdowns that you, it's not always scrambling.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you have read options. You have Dak just calling his own number and running once they get inside the five here.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, his, his rushing touchdowns, I believe.

[Mike Wright]

I think he had five.

[Jason Moore]

No, I've got bad, I've got bad news. Oh, I've got really bad news here.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no. I know what's gonna happen it's the mark.

[Jason Moore]

It's the mark of the beast. He's been in.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

He's been in the league three years and he's got six. Six, Six rushing touchdowns. The mark of the beast. I'm off. Ojack. This is the kind of incredible insight you get from the fantasy footballers podcast. This is when we make stupid comments like that is when I feel the need to remind people that we had three top 15 ranked analysts, two top 20.

[Mike Wright]

I was 19.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I apologize.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you. Two of the top 10, number 11, Philip Rivers. Consistency, rank of number nine. He was the same as Russell Wilson, though. He did not have that boom, boom, pow. Only 6% of his games were great, 69% good, 25% bust. So those numbers are fantastic. You just didn't get.

[Jason Moore]

He was.

[Mike Wright]

He was almost there.

[Jason Moore]

So Phil Rivers.

[Mike Wright]

But he was still. He helped people win.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know that that's true.

[Mike Wright]

I strongly believe that it's true. He did not help you win in your championship when he posted an absolute.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's like week 16. It's like I said, some of these older guys late in the season from week 13 on were putrid. They fell off a cliff. Whether some were injured. Right. Cam Newton got injured. And he wasn't the same Philip Rivers, you know, he just wasn't the same at the end. Maybe that was Melvin Gordon going down or whatnot, but Philip Rivers has a long history of in fantasy, finishing as a top 12 quarterback, but always near the end, always quarterback 11, quarterback 12. And if you look on a weekly basis of where his fantasy finishes were, they're. They're all pretty okay. But he's just. He doesn't go out and win games. And look, because you draft Philip Rivers at the very end of your draft, I like him.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to be on him again next year.

[Jason Moore]

I don't. I don't think I like the offense. I do love the offense and I love that Mike Williams is a target.

[Mike Wright]

That's a huge. Yeah, huge. Part of it is Keenan Allen's a beast. He's an alpha. He's a one. But Mike Williams is, to me, will. Next year will be the emergence of Mike Williams.

[Jason Moore]

And you got Hunter Henry, who should be back. Stephen A. Smith is excited. Nice. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, look, the problem I have with Philip Rivers is that his end of the year rankings to me always look a little bit better than how helpful he was. And I want to. I wanted to bring up. So I talked about the last five weeks, how this Season. So many quarterbacks that were great and got you to the playoffs just fell off a cliff through those last few weeks. Okay, here's a good barometer. Was anybody worse than Case Keenum this year?

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, I mean, like, no problem.

[Jason Moore]

His consistency rating, we won't talk about him, but it was like 33. I think he was the lowest. Consistency, 33.

[Mike Wright]

He was out of a starter race.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I. So he was. He was.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I'm looking at it. He was 19 on the season. Consistency rank of 33 is putrid. So the last five, to be fair, Stafford was not. Not in consistency, but finished behind him. Stafford. Stafford was serial against your fantasy team.

[Jason Moore]

My point is, Case Keenum over those last five weeks is a good barometer. Are you better than Case Keenum? Because you have to be. He was the quarterback. 18. He. Here are quarterbacks behind him over the last very important stretch of the last five weeks. Behind him. Philip Rivers, Jared Goff, Drew Brees, Cam Newton. I mean, you. The reason I'm hitting this point over and over is next year, you know, we're going to have another episode of, like, Things to Remember, but you have to be willing to pivot because some of the guys that came on strong at the end of the year, they were rookies. Absolutely. He was the Stallion during that stretch.

[Mike Wright]

When he got his name during that.

[Jason Moore]

Stretch, it was not Pat Mahomes over the last five weeks who was the number one quarterback. It was Josh Allen, number one quarterback over the last five weeks. I know that's surprising. And you'll get my guests.

[Mike Wright]

We will get to him because we're going to finish off the quarterback ones. Kirk cousin, number 12, but a consistency rank of number 16.

[Jason Moore]

Did he. Did he lose several of his cousins and he just. He's down to one now.

[Mike Wright]

Did you just make a cousin's joke?

[Jason Moore]

No. You did, son.

[Mike Wright]

You just.

[Jason Moore]

You said Kirk Cousin. Yeah. You called him Kirk Cousin. Shame on you.

[Mike Wright]

I apologize.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. Oh, this is the first time we've ever heard for nothing. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Step into my trap, Kirk Cousins. Now, I'll just put multiple S's on it.

[Jason Moore]

It's a Z at this point.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no, that. That'll help. Kirk Reeve. Like that guy with a Z on the end of his name.

[Jason Moore]

It's not the rebranding he needs, but it's the rebranding he gets.

[Mike Wright]

Kirk, who did it? Oh, someone just did it in the doc. And Kirk Cousins with a Z, he's been rebranded, been reborn. Maybe that will help him finish higher than 12. Only 19% of his games were great, 56% good, which is you're in the meth zone. And 38% of the time he busted. It seemed like things were really hunky dory over the first half of the season for Kirk Cousins because this team was incredibly pass happy. They put everything on to Kirk Cousins. Dalvin Cook was beat up. They couldn't get a running game going. So everything was Kirk Cousins or bust. Then the bus came and they made a change at offensive coordinator and things changed for Kirk Cousins because from week 11 through, through the end of the season, I mean, you had no idea what you were possibly going to get from Kirk Cousins. He. And this, this is not a matter.

[Jason Moore]

Of splits because it's better on the road.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but I mean like very, very small amount of points, top 16, bottom 16 defenses. Not a massive, not a massive split there. It was to me, just offensive coordinator change. And I am.

[Jason Moore]

You have to be worried. You have to.

[Mike Wright]

You have to be worried because of what Kirk Cousins represented being a. He had been a fantasy beast in Washington. Then he goes to Minnesota, has Adam Thielen, Stefan Diggs and Dalvin Cook. He, he's one of the possible bounce back candidates for me, but it's going to be a climb for me to talk myself into that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, the offensive coordinator change. Sometimes the team stinks and they clear house and they come back with, you know, a new regime and you're not sure what to expect. You're not sure which direction they're going yet. You've got to see it. But we know here they got rid of defilippo because they were passing too much. They wanted to be a defense first, run the ball team. I know they paid a lot of money for Kirk Cousins, but when they believe that that's their best recipe for winning. They paid for Kirk Cousins to win games, not to just throw for 5,000 yards. And once that change was made, everything was about the running game. It hurt captain Kirk. Now they bring in Gary Kubiak, who I love. He's not the offensive coordinator. He's going to be. What is he, like the. Some offensive specialist or whatever.

[Mike Wright]

But Gary Kubiak brings me Kubes.

[Jason Moore]

It's just he's going to be coops. The Kube system, which is really the Shanahan system.

[Mike Wright]

Kubes and Cousins get some Z's.

[Jason Moore]

The running game. Like, I want to hate Dalvin Cook because of what he did to my team personally.

[Mike Wright]

You should. You got to get over that.

[Jason Moore]

But I recognize that I have to get over it. Dalvin Cook looks set up for success next success next season. Kirk Cousins does not to me. I think Kirk Cousins has the passing attempts reigned back. He'll be efficient, he'll be okay. But I'm not excited about Kirk Cousins going forward. And like you said, home road didn't matter. Good, bad didn't matter. What did matter is old OC, new OC.

[Mike Wright]

Yep. Number 13. We can get through it pretty quick because it's Cam Newton. Oh, number 13. But consistency rank of number six. He was. He was fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

He was magma for the whole season.

[Mike Wright]

Until the shoulder problem took its toll. So it's just a matter of health next year and draft price for Cam Newton. Do you have anything you really want to focus on?

[Jason Moore]

I'll just say this. Cam will drop like a rock in draft price because of his. If he's not throwing at OTAs, I think people really be worried about how he finished the season. And I'm going to be fine drafting him because the thing is, is when he's out there, he's going to be great. And if the shoulder injury pops up.

[Mike Wright]

What if he's going. What if he's going in like round.

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't draft a quarterback before round nine.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Not anything else. He's going to be great.

[Jason Moore]

It's all about price and health. Health and price.

[Mike Wright]

Number 14. This is interesting, Jason, because this is Tom Brady. Oh, this is Touchdown Tommy.

[Jason Moore]

This is the Plant man himself.

[Mike Wright]

That's Rifle Clan. The Plant man is finally. This is sticking around.

[Jason Moore]

I've.

[Mike Wright]

I've casually, casually thrown and messed around with the Plant Man.

[Jason Moore]

Well, because he eats this diet. That is.

[Mike Wright]

Look, the Plant man knows. He knows that he's. Is he washed for fantasy? Jason proclaimed the beginning of the end for the Patriots so boldly beat at your chest for it. And to be fair, they're in the super bowl, so. But also to be fair, they were pretty stinky for fantasy. Aside from Julian Edelman.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, look.

[Mike Wright]

And so here we are. Tom Brady, number 14, consistency rank of number 18. What do you make of the Plant Man?

[Jason Moore]

The Plant man is. I mean, obviously he's the goat. He's. He's been great for fantasy. He's been better for the NFL than he has been for fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

One touchdown, one passing touchdown in or fewer. Or fewer in half his games. I mean, that's, That's a destruction of a fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

His consistency rank was number 18, and that means that he's a guy that hurt you more than he helped you. You have to be, you know, top 12. And you couldn't always tell when it was coming. You could see that they want to run the ball. That's why they spent a first rounder on Sony Michelle. But when he got injured and they had to pass it a little bit more, he was able to do that. Tom Brady is great. I don't believe that he is himself washed up, but he's not a guy that good fantasy players I believe will rely on anymore.

[Mike Wright]

2017, Brady was number three.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And that's great.

[Mike Wright]

But that's kind of where he has lived for the past few years. He's been a top five guy.

[Jason Moore]

You've seen, I believe what the Patriots want to do. They want to run the ball more. They want to ZIGIS While the NFL zags that, you know, that's why they grabbed Sony Michelle.

[Mike Wright]

And I think it'll be both. It'll just be another Bill Belichick game planning where the times, once you are finally bought into Sony Michelle, he's going to come out with two games and Tom Brady's going to throw four touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Which is exactly what you don't want. You don't want to not be able to predict that the game's right. The same issue I have with the running backs of New England, like, okay, Sony's going to be great next year, but I don't really want to draft him because I don't want to have to play the game of, oh, he just got five touches for no reason. It looked. The matchup looked perfect and I just, I wasn't Belichick and he, he billed me. And so I, you know, that same thing affects Tom Brady. And the issue. The reason I say great fantasy players aren't going to rely on Tom Brady is simply because his name costs way too much.

[Mike Wright]

But what if he's. What if he goes late? What if. I mean, finishing 14th overall is going to put a ding on the fantasy value of Tom Brady.

[Jason Moore]

I would say most average leagues there will be someone who grabs Tom Brady, you know, in the seventh round. He's the greatest of all time. Like I said, he's been good for fantasy in the past. And I think you're not going to return value there. Not on. Not on Brady.

[Mike Wright]

Number 15, Mitch Trubisky. Jay Griz getting a little, little sweaty over there. Do bear sweat? I doubt it.

[Jason Moore]

I. I'll bet they do.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I mean, it's like dogs. I mean, furry animals. I believe they do not perspire. The heat comes out of their mouth.

[Jason Moore]

Is that true?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, dogs don't sweat. That's why they pant. Because all the heat instead of this is instead of your body.

[Jason Moore]

When we host, it's like the more you know comes. Hold on. You keep riffing. I gotta find it comes from Mike Wright. This is like get things right. The more you know.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. We got to drop science on people from time to time.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, apparently.

[Mike Wright]

But yes. So Mr. Bisky getting hot and bothered? I mean, I guess. Jake, I don't know what Mitchell's up to these days.

[Jason Moore]

Do you remember he's. He's up to sucking in the Pro Bowl. Oh, oh. In. In fairness, he was terrible in the Pro Bowl. Do you remember week four? I sure do.

[Mike Wright]

Look, America remembers. This is a day that will live in infamy because Mitch was. It was bad. It did not look like it was going to work out. The new. We had a new head coach in place. We had. We had dubbed Mitch Trubisky the Jared Goff of the season to get a bounce back from an offensive coach. First three weeks, terrible. Then week four happened.

[Jason Moore]

Then is when I came out and firmly established. I mean, totally.

[Mike Wright]

I wish we had the clue.

[Jason Moore]

I doubled down, I tripled down, I quadrupled down. That Mitchell Trubisky will never be a great quarterback. Those were, those were my words. And the fact that I doubled and tripled and quadrupled down.

[Mike Wright]

This is your take in week four, Jay?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Well. And then he goes out and throws. What was it? Six touchdowns, something.

[Mike Wright]

It was 43 and a half fantasy points.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it was unbelievable. And then he comes back with a.

[Mike Wright]

Game and this is when you quintupled down.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. And then. And then, boom, another good game. Boom, another good game. But the truth is, Mitchell Trubisky had. You know, we're talking. What is the truth of Trubisky? We didn't doctor these rankings and make them serve our purposes. His consistency ranking was quarterback 24. He had games of 14, 14, 5, 8, 4, 10, 12. Like these are games that crushed you. You did not succeed with Mitchell Trubisky outside of a one month window from weeks four through eight where he was fantastic.

[Mike Wright]

So you can see that in his percentage scores. 29% of his games were great. That's a. That's a strong number.

[Jason Moore]

That is a great number. That pretty much was that month plus week 10.

[Mike Wright]

But 43% good.

[Jason Moore]

That's bad. That is not good. But here's the.

[Mike Wright]

That is not good. That is bad.

[Jason Moore]

That is bad. Here's the real bad one.

[Mike Wright]

57% of the time he busted.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. That's not in the top 16 quarterbacks. That's. He helped ruin your week if you started him. And so what is the truth of Mitch Triple.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I want to know where the flag is, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Is my flag has, has not changed one bit.

[Mike Wright]

It's not half masked. It's still. You've got the skull and crossbones up top.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the thing. I. Jolly Roger. Here's the actual truth of what I believe about Mitch Trubisky, which has not changed. But because I was so adamant that he'll never be a great quarterback, I think it was taken to say that I think he outright sucks. I don't believe he can be a great quarterback, but I love the system. I love Matt Beggy.

[Mike Wright]

People probably think that because I believe you said in one of these rants you did say that he sucks.

[Jason Moore]

We do have tape. I would love to. I would love to see it because if, you know, if I said that, I will apologize.

[Mike Wright]

Brooks, where's that highlight, that highlight reel? Oh, yeah, you're too busy gallivanting up into the north.

[Jason Moore]

Stay tuned.

[Mike Wright]

Taking vacations, Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

Stay warm, my friends.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, the North.

[Jason Moore]

In honor of the people up north, today I am rocking shorts and flip flops.

[Mike Wright]

You're a terrible person.

[Jason Moore]

No, I just. Look, they need to know that somebody out there can still do it.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Is it. But what is the truth? Next year? Is Mitchell Trubisky someone that you're. You're going to be on.

[Mike Wright]

I am definitely interested. I am not going to dub him the next great thing. I am not going to chase the points of Mitch Trubisky. But like you said, you want a quarterback who can boom, boom, pow.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And Mitch Trubisky will probably still be a late round guy and he's shown that with his rushing ability, he can absolutely explode on any given week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, Cam Newton's always been a boom bust guy and he busted only 21% of the time that was with a busted shoulder. So.

[Mike Wright]

But that's.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to stay away from Mitchell, but that's no surprise.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we're just going to pick and choose from quarterback. So, Jay, is there anyone that you want to highlight?

[Jason Moore]

The one guy I think has to be talked about is the Stallion himself.

[Mike Wright]

Wild Josh Stallion. Excellent. Love Michael Keaton.

[Jason Moore]

Look, here's the weird thing about Josh Allen. Consistency, rank. Over the course of the season, he was number 17. He finished as the number 21 quarterback. Here's what is. He missed a huge portion of the year. He missed a huge portion from week seven through 11. He went dark. He got injured in week six. And so you go, okay, he had pretty much the worst beginning to the season that you can imagine. I mean, it was. It was just not pretty. His first few weeks, 13 points, then he had a good game. 27, one point.

[Mike Wright]

That was week three. That was the game against the Vikings.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Oh, that's right. That they were supposed to lose.

[Mike Wright]

17 point dogs.

[Jason Moore]

So here's what's crazy. If. If his season looked like that first half of the season, his consistency score would have been 34.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Keep in mind they're only 32 quarterbacks. He would have been the 34th most consistent. However, if you take away those games and you look at what happened the second half of the year, which, truth be told, I think is more indicative, especially for a rookie quarterback, comes back off the injury, he's healthy, they've figured him out a little bit more. They've got their team clicking.

[Mike Wright]

He figured out who he is and he figured out what his team is.

[Jason Moore]

He figured out, I'm going to run the ball.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And he would have been the number two most consistent quarterback from that second half. So it's the definition of inconsistency. And yet at the end of the year, he was hyper consistent. I buy into Josh Allen being a really good option for fantasy football. I mean, we're not going to hear.

[Mike Wright]

What you're not saying. So you're talking about fantasy football?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, for fantasy football, I think he's going to be. He's going to have enough rushing yards to be great. I mean, there are. There are plenty of guys. You know, I don't think that Tyrod Taylor was a great NFL player personally, but for fantasy, because scoring is broken and rushing quarterbacks are so valuable and so much more consistent because of their baseline. How do you go away from using Josh Allen the way that he dominated the last five weeks of the season?

[Mike Wright]

All right, so let's talk about another quarterback who's known for his rushing. Let's compare these guys. You're interested in Josh Allen. Where are you on Lamar Jackson consistency, rank of number 10?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

When he came in week 11, he. He was solid for fantasy. He wasn't giving you everything you had hoped for in a rushing quarterback, but he was still solid. He led the team to the playoffs. So, I mean, this is Lamar Jackson's team.

[Jason Moore]

I would take Lamar Jackson over Josh Allen next year's draft.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

I don't believe for one second. We've talked. We talked about this in the studio. I know you agree. I don't believe for one second that Lamar Jackson is going to be able to hold up for an entire season if they continue using him in the running game the way that they did this season. I don't doubt that they dial it back a little. But his. He's so unbelievable in open space as a runner that they. He obviously will continue that baseline. But when you like similar to Cam. I'm not afraid of drafting Cam. I'm not afraid of drafting Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen. Will one or all three of those guys possibly get injured halfway through the year because of their style of play? Sure. But guess what I'll do at that point? I'll just pivot.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I'll just go to another guy. I'll go to the Lamar Jackson that pops up or the Josh Allen that pops up.

[Mike Wright]

As we're going through this, it's just reinforcing for me again of how many quarterbacks I like.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. I mean.

[Mike Wright]

And we'll be happy to take late in a draft.

[Jason Moore]

Think about Carson Wentz. Let's bring up Carson Wentz. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

He was going to be the next name I go to. So people do not forget. The regression was real. The touchdown regression was real for Carson Wentz.

[Jason Moore]

He had no great games.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Which man.

[Jason Moore]

No top three type performance. One of those weak winners.

[Mike Wright]

He had one week where he was just an absolute butt hair away in week six, 24 and a half points. So I'll give him some. I'll give him credit for that one. But 73% of the time he was good. Only 27% of the time did he bust in his shortened season. So it's just a reminder Carson Wentz is still good for fantasy football. Hopefully his draft price, though, will have been. Will get the proper adjustment that it deserved.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Because Carson Wentz, to me, was not a. Not a top three guy like he was crushing no.

[Jason Moore]

17 coming off of the back issue. He'll. He'll get a solid bump down in ADP and he'll be a very interesting guy for me. I think that he's talented. He can run the ball. He obviously can throw touchdowns like he did two seasons ago. And I think if you take that run that Nick Foles had, if you put a healthy Carson wince in, it's probably Nick, you know, it's probably Wentz having that run and then we're. And then he's being drafted very high. The back issue, I don't believe will be an issue come the start of the season. So yeah, I'm totally in on Carson Wentz again. It's exactly what you said. There are so many good quarterbacks that all have a chance. Like usually when we talk about late quarterbacks, they don't have a chance to be in top three.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

They're just guys like a Philip Rivers that you could grab them late, Matthew Stafford of years past or you know, guys like that where you can grab them super late and they're, they're going to produce. But you have a handful of guys that are going to go late that have the chance to be legitimately a top three quarterback in your, you know, Lamar Jackson's and Carson Wentz's and, and I'll throw one more name out there. Can't forget about Jameis Winston.

[Mike Wright]

He was a top 12 before we got into. I just wanted to say, do you know how long this podcast has been so far? Jason?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, oh.

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk about Jameis Winston, number 22 on the season. However, consistency, rank of number 12. Of course, number 22 because he started the year with a suspension and then Ryan Fitzpatrick came in and stole his lunch money. But Jameis Winston, 22% of the time, great. 67% of the time, good. 33% of the time, busted. That number's a little bit high. But Jameis Winston is going to go lower in drafts. I mean, the Bucs quarterback collected the fifth most fantasy points at the quarterback position. It was or posted, I say the fifth most quarterback points since 2006. Bucks quarterback was great. And now go ahead.

[Jason Moore]

And now you get Bruce Arians, who I think is perfect for Jameis Winston. He's a no risk at no biscuit guy. He wants to throw deep, go down the field. He is a match made in heaven for Jameis. I believe that Jameis Winston is the perfect late round quarterback because you look at his whole at his splits against good defenses and bad defenses. We brought this up on the previous episode. When you see a guy beaten up on the weak defenses, he had five weeks versus the bottom 16 in which he scored 27.9 points per game on average. So he was a great performance on average against the bad competition and only 19 points per game against the top 16. That's what you want. When you're streaming the position, grab Jameis Winston and grab another guy. And when you've got the right matchup, play Jameis. And when you got a bad matchup, you're confident enough to bench him. He's Perfect for fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

What do you get when you combine Jameis Winston and Bruce Arians?

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

Crab biscuits.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's the right drug.

[Mike Wright]

I had the button ready.

[Jason Moore]

I don't get it. I don't like it, but I love it. You don't get it, but I love that it happened. Crab biscuits.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Jameis Winston really got the crab. The biscuits.

[Mike Wright]

Do you get it?

[Jason Moore]

Okay, the cr.

[Mike Wright]

The crab legs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I remember the crab legs from college with no risk it.

[Mike Wright]

No biscuit.

[Jason Moore]

Crabs. But what is a crab biscuit? That's not a thing.

[Mike Wright]

It is now.

[Jason Moore]

No, no. You say crab biscuit doesn't make crab biscuits a thing. That's the. That was the problem with the joke.

[Mike Wright]

I am thinking of something.

[Jason Moore]

You're thinking of crab cakes.

[Mike Wright]

Crab cakes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

That was. Yes. I don't eat them. That was. Nobody does because crab biscuits aren't a thing. Oh, my goodness. That was the worst joke in the history of the fantasy. And please understand, we've had so many bad jokes. I mean, that's kind of what we do here, dad. Jokes. Bad jokes. But crab cakes. Go enjoy your crab biscuits.

[Mike Wright]

Look, that's what my grandpa used to say. Love me a crab biscuit.

[Jason Moore]

No. Risk it. No crab biscuit. Wow. All right. I think that's a good. Oh, that's a good time to go into the.

[Mike Wright]

My bad. Hey, before we close out the show.

[Jason Moore]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Jason, I got to close out the show before I say anything stupider. Do you want to say anything? Save me, Jason. Grab biscuits.

[Jason Moore]

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