The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy QBs + Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/15

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary — “The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy QBs + Wheel of Shame” (2026-01-15)

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Episode Overview

In this lively “Truth” installment, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright break down the reality behind the top 10 fantasy QBs from the 2025 season. The trio analyzes key performance metrics, discusses consistency vs. upside, exposes fantasy-relevant narratives, revisits bold preseason takes, and debates the value of next year’s QB pool. As always, the banter is strong, the analysis insightful, and the Fantasy Face Off and Wheel of Shame add a hilarious twist.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

Coaching Carousel Outrage & Impact (04:00–16:00)

• The guys roast Arthur Smith’s candidacy for offensive coordinator (04:18–06:20). Mike is adamant:
  “Arthur Smith sucks for fantasy football. He is a terror. Taking Bijan and Drake London and saying, hey guys, why don't you calm down, let's get more people involved that aren't as good as you. That’s… infuriating.” (05:42, Mike Wright)
• Debate on head coaching “retreads" vs. shooting for a new McVay-style savant:
  “For every Sean McVay that you hire, there are plenty of others that you try. You hope you hire… the next LaFleur. Maybe he’ll be great. Maybe you'll be like, 'oh, you’re the little brother for a reason.'” (08:43, Jason Moore)
• Jalen Hurts “real NFL draft” game: Where does he rank among QBs if you restart the league? Consensus: around 9th–12th overall.

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Fantasy QB Scoring: The Macro Trends (31:19–34:30)

• Scoring was DOWN:
  “2025… we did not have one single quarterback average more than 23 fantasy points per game. In the last five years, we had one a year.” (32:28, Andy Holloway)
• Rush attempts from QBs are up; passing attempts/the overall play volume is down.
• Emphasis on “The Truth” series, which measures not just year-end points but week-to-week startability and consistency.

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The Top 10 QBs: The Real Truth

1. Josh Allen (Buffalo) (35:52–38:21)

• Still the king of consistency, doing more with less at WR.
  • 3,600 passing yards/25 TDs may look modest, but the rushing TDs (14!) make all the difference.
• Quote: “If you just looked at his passing stats… you’re like, oh, man, it’s not great. 15 rushing touchdowns two years ago, 12 last year, 14 this year… you’re talking hyper super significant rushing touchdown totals.” (36:58, Andy)
• Fantasy take: Allen is always a safe pick, but the hosts plead for Buffalo to get him a new elite WR.

2. Drake May (Washington) (38:26–41:56)

• “Most interesting” fantasy QB for 2025, with a rocket finish (QB7, QB2 in fantasy playoffs).
• Pocket-passer with mobility (450 rushing yards) but “belief in Drake May is believing in a pocket passer to a much greater degree than believing in Jaden Daniels.” (41:33, Andy)
• Note: Will be a hotly contested early-round pick next season, but schedule will be much tougher.

3. Matthew Stafford (LV Raiders) (43:13–45:58)

• “Thorn in my side” for consistency scoring (43:28, Jason). He had many decent (15–18 point) games, pushing up his consistency rank, but wasn’t always winning weeks.
• Devante Adams transformed Stafford’s red zone/TD output.
• High likelihood of over-drafting Stafford next year, akin to what happened with Baker Mayfield post-breakout.

4. Trevor Lawrence (Jacksonville) (46:55–51:02)

• Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde season: “Number one [in consistency] in the second half of the season, 21st in the first half.” (47:05, Jason)
• Liam Coen’s offense unlocked Lawrence and inflated rushing TDs (nine this year, only Allen matched that combination of passing/rushing success).
• Overdraft risk: Hosts are wary, but admit Lawrence was electric down the stretch.

5. Dak Prescott (Dallas) (51:55–56:33)

• Consistently a QB1 despite “historically bad” Dallas D and run-game resurgence.
• Ceiling not solely linked to WR George, per Jason, but weapons matter.
• Dak’s volatility is well-known:
  “His consistency has always been below where he finishes though.” (54:49, Andy)

6. Caleb Williams (Chicago Bears) (56:34–63:42)

• The ultimate risk/reward for 2026 drafts.
  “You’re going to have to call your shot on Caleb… Top 5 QB drafted… I won’t be that guy pulling the trigger.” (58:09, Jason)
• 58% comp% (only Doer and McCarthy were worse among qualifiers).
• His weapons are elite (Burden, Loveland, Rome Oduzne), but he excelled most against bad defenses.
• The hosts recount their “Oh crap!” game watching him:
  “Whenever he took the snap, especially in shotgun, we’d basically just start screaming at the TV like, ‘Oh, crap.’” (62:54, Jason)

7. Bo Nix (Denver) (63:50–67:12)

• Disappointment relative to expectations: drafted ahead of Caleb/Lawrence/Dak/Stafford, but landed QB7.
• Sputtering accuracy, volatility, and a good defense meant less weekly need for shootouts.
• “I do not think that the way he played this season locks him in as their starter for the next five years.” (65:27, Andy)

8. Jalen Hurts (Philadelphia) (69:12–72:44)

• Prototype of “good, but didn’t return on high draft capital.”
  “Definitely didn’t deliver on a quarterback three draft spot in the third round.” (69:35, Andy)
• Big drop in designed runs. Lost his “league-winning upside”—lowest rate of great games in five years.
• Philly’s offensive shake-up throws next year into uncertainty.

9. Jared Goff (Detroit) (72:59–74:00)

• Finished strong, but high bust percentage (35%). One of those QBs you hated starting yet ended up in the Top 10.

10. Justin Herbert (New England) (74:01–75:07)

• “Her bros” got burned:
  “If you just are playing Justin Herbert or Jared Goff or these guys every single week, they're not going to help you win. You need to get multiple guys or stream off the waiver wire, get a Jacoby Brissett,… play the heaters.” (74:19, Jason)

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Macro QB Strategy Lessons

• Top 6 or Bust: After QB6, the rest will help and hurt you about the same—draft Ray May? Great. Get Bo Nix? Stream.
• Streaming Remains King if you miss on an elite QB or get one of the “disappointments.”
• Offenses with Elite Playcallers (McVay, Cohen, Ben Johnson) inspire confidence, but don’t guarantee fantasy stardom if the player’s profile is shaky.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Arthur Smith Coaching Rumors (04:41):
  “If Arthur Smith is hired to the Arizona Cardinals in three years time, the Arizona Cardinals will be interviewing new head coaches.” — Mike Wright
• On Josh Allen’s Weekly Output (36:58):
  “Not just squeaking into the double digits, you’re talking about hyper super significant rushing touchdown totals that bring up his score.” — Andy Holloway
• On Caleb Williams-Risk (58:09):
  “There will be someone in every single league that will take Caleb so high, Top five quarterback drafted because… he’s gonna be the superstar special, really breakout to the next level player… I won’t be that guy.” — Jason Moore
• “Oh Crap” Caleb Game (62:53):
  “Whenever he took the snap… we’d basically just start screaming at the TV like, ‘Oh, crap.’” — Mike & Jason
• On Streaming, Top 10 QB Truth (74:19):
  “When you get past the top six, they hurt you almost as much as they helped you… either you get one of the studs or you stream.” — Jason Moore

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Fantasy Face Off & Wheel of Shame Highlights (75:22–80:39)

• Jason spins the Wheel of Shame, dons a tightly fitting Mask prop, and gamely continues recording. Plenty of visual gags & laughs about “the mask,” superhero glasses, and green face.
• All three hosts (in different stats) pick Colston Loveland as their “more” at Tight End in the Prize Picks segment, crowning him as the pod’s triple unanimous play.
  “Triple Loveland!” (80:05, Andy Holloway)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:00 — Arthur Smith/Coaching Rants & NFC/AFC Head Coach Vacancies
• 16:00 — The “Where Does Jalen Hurts Rank?” Draft Scenario
• 31:19 — Powdered Wig Banter & 2025 QB Scoring Trends
• 34:58 — The Truth Series Explained
• 35:52 — Josh Allen Analysis (QB1)
• 38:26 — Drake May Analysis (QB2)
• 43:13 — Matthew Stafford Analysis (QB3)
• 46:55 — Trevor Lawrence Deep Dive (QB4)
• 51:55 — Dak Prescott Analysis (QB5)
• 56:34 — Caleb Williams Analysis (QB6)
• 63:50 — Bo Nix Reality Check (QB7)
• 69:12 — Jalen Hurts (QB8)
• 72:59 — Jared Goff (QB9)
• 74:01 — Justin Herbert (QB10) & Macro QB Drafting Lessons
• 75:22 — Fantasy Face Off / Wheel of Shame

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Takeaways for Fantasy Managers

• Don’t fall for overall season finish—week-to-week consistency and upside matter most, especially for quarterbacks.
• Next year’s draft will see Drake May, Trevor Lawrence, Caleb Williams as major “belief” vs. “caution” pivot points. Know who you’re comfortable riding with.
• If you miss out on a true difference-maker, don’t cling to middling names—be ready to pivot, stream, and play the matchups.

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Closing

The episode wraps with the standard antics and a strong reminder that fantasy QB selection is loaded with landmines outside the top tier. Listen to the numbers—but don’t ignore the game tape and coaching context! And, as always with the Fantasy Footballers, have some fun along the way.

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Transcript

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in Thursday, January 15th the fantasy footballers Podcast. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. Deucers Alley fully staffed today.

[Mike Wright]

It's ironic because still deuce and after all these years.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'll got back from vacation right when the packers went on their vacation.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, did you high solidarity like at the airport? Were you like yeah, you're not ready yet. Let's go to Cabo.

[Jason Moore]

I want to be here.

[Andy Holloway]

Still.

[Jason Moore]

Still.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, you really.

[Jason Moore]

I knew what was in store for me when I got here today and you guys didn't disappoint.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that was immediate.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's just surprising you didn't know it was in store for you before the weekend though. That's, that's what we're all real surprised.

[Andy Holloway]

That that game, you know, we have.

[Mike Wright]

It wasn't in store for him until like the final.

[Jason Moore]

I know two minutes of the game.

[Andy Holloway]

It shouldn't have been in store for him at all. Whatever happened in that game. It's just we have very passionate packers and Bears fans in the office and Jason and I in that channel that whole night it was just like. We just want this game to be dramatic, that's all. I don't care.

[Jason Moore]

No horse in the race. But I love to watch someone milk.

[Mike Wright]

You had a horse in that race.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, welcome back.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome back, dark horse of pain.

[Andy Holloway]

Watch the world burn. This is how us Cardinal fans.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. We deal with things.

[Andy Holloway]

We just. We're unbiased. We don't care about.

[Mike Wright]

Imagine caring.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say I'm jealous that he gets to be upset. When's the last time you were like.

[Mike Wright]

We get to be upset?

[Jason Moore]

We do.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Just. But all the time.

[Mike Wright]

No but right now we had have the air by we I mean the Arizona Cardinals. The third overall pick. If you have not heard breaking right before the recording was Oregon quarterback Dante Moore is going back to school, which he would have been the odds on favorite for the second pick, maybe the first, but either way a top two pick nonetheless. Where the Arizona Cardinals then don't have to worry about that. They just take the best non quarterback player that they want their pick and now that is destroyed.

[Andy Holloway]

Makes sense. Oh, by the way, we're interviewing Arthur Smith and the entire community. The Foot clan. I know what you're rooting for. You want to talk about me and Jason rooting for drama in that game.

[Mike Wright]

I know what you're rooting for.

[Jason Moore]

Everyone wants to see it happen. Unlimited diarrhea.

[Andy Holloway]

You are rooting for. I mean, I don't even know.

[Mike Wright]

I know I've. I have planted my flag.

[Andy Holloway]

I will have wanted.

[Jason Moore]

John, your piece out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, I am. Oh, I'm out. I am out. And I will not be tricked. If Arthur comes. Oh, a little bit of success. It's next year. If Arthur Smith is hired to the Arizona Cardinals in three years time, the Arizona Cardinals will be interviewing new head coaches.

[Jason Moore]

I don't care who we hire. In three years time we're going to be hiring someone new because that's what we do every three years.

[Mike Wright]

Someone could build something here. But not.

[Jason Moore]

Not someone that's going to come here.

[Mike Wright]

That guy sucks. If we're going to.

[Jason Moore]

Arthur Smith is not that guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Hold on if we're going to suck.

[Mike Wright]

How does offense look in the playoff game?

[Jason Moore]

It looked like it lacked personnel big time.

[Mike Wright]

No, it looked like it lacked any sort of idea of what anyone is doing.

[Andy Holloway]

If, if we're going to suck, we might as well have a more entertaining podcast.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

And that's what Arthur Smith would provide. We have.

[Mike Wright]

Do you, you want Trey McBride to see the third most targets on the Arizona Cardinals?

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't.

[Mike Wright]

That's what will happen.

[Jason Moore]

Don't hear what I'm not saying. Arthur Smith sucks for fantasy football. He is, he is a terror. Taking Bijon and Drake London and saying, hey guys, why don't you calm down, let's get more people involved that aren't as good as you. That's. It's infuriating. It would be terrible for fantasy football. But as an actual coach, I don't think he is bad. I don't think he's unintelligent. There are some coaches. I go, that guy.

[Andy Holloway]

No, the truth is terrible. Emotionless truth is that he is being interviewed by lots of teams for a reason.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean that's, that's the truth. That's how he's viewed.

[Mike Wright]

He's run by cowards.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean there's. Yeah, we're not going to talk about them anymore. The Truth episode, the first one today, top 10 quarterbacks from 2025 looking at the truth at the quarterback position. What happened this year as a whole in terms of scoring trends at the quarterback position and then walking through the top 10 finishers. We look at their fantasy points, but we also look at their consistency scores. How much did they deliver on a week to week basis? How much could you count on them? Just because they finished at number two or three or five on the quarterback rankings doesn't mean that they were dependable. Doesn't mean that they were the linchpin of fantasy championships. So we're going to take a look at that in detail. And Jason, every year puts together these docs with the help of the team in terms of taking a granular approach to how much did they really help you? What is the truth about Drake May? What is the truth about Caleb Williams and others? So we're looking at that today. We do have the fantasy face off as well. And the Jason Moore wheel of shame will also be on today's show called Playoff Shame. Playoff Shame. And yeah, there's. There's a lot going on. A reminder, the DFS pass completely free right now during the NFL playoffs. DFSpass.com and the community is [e-mail] I didn't know if I thought you were going to say something. Nothing to say.

[Jason Moore]

I would say I believe Nico would have hit his over if he didn't get injured.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you don't.

[Jason Moore]

But I am going to say that.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. Yes, you are going to say that.

[Mike Wright]

You got kind of hit by the injury. That was unfortunate.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. There you go. Into the news we go.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it was. It didn't really matter what the kick. What happened with Tyler Loop, because a week later, Mike Tomlin lost his job as well or stepped down from. From his job after 19 years. So the Steelers now join the ranks of the Cardinals, Falcons, Ravens, Browns, Raiders, Dolphins, Steelers, Giants, and Titans. I said Steelers twice, but lots of teams that need a new head coach.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And there's one team that needs a new oc.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yep. It's zero. Look, there's a lot of team. This is, this is how you end up with Arthur Smith. That many teams needing coaches.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. There's not just the same way that there's not enough great quarterbacks who can truly separate.

[Mike Wright]

This is correct.

[Jason Moore]

The truth is there's not that many great head coaches, which is why a lot of franchises, including the Cardinals, you try to take those shots on the guys you have never heard of. When Sean McVeigh was hired, it was almost a joke. It was like, this guy is younger than like a third of his team, has no experience. And then it turned out Sean McVay was a savant who was worthy of that. And now it looks foolish to even question that. But for every Sean McVeigh that you hire, there are plenty of others that you try. You, you know, you. You hope you hire, you know, the, the next LaFleur. Maybe he'll be great. Maybe he'll be like, oh, yeah, you're the little brother for a reason.

[Mike Wright]

But this is, this is my, My argument is don't hire the Arthur Smiths. Sure, I. Arthur Smith might act. He might be okay, but there's so many of the retreads that they just keep getting jobs over and over, and it's like everyone, mostly everyone's going to fail. Why not hit on a guy like a Sean McVeigh or LaFleur where he's like, oh, we found our coach for the next 10 years. Instead of like, I'm. We're going to find our coach for the next three years. Stop doing that.

[Jason Moore]

It is pretty funny how many of the currently just fired coaches are clearly going to be head Coaches that this coming year, you know, it's like, Harbaugh will absolutely be a coach. Stefanski will absolutely be a head coach. It looks like McDaniel will be a head coach. So it's a little bit retread. But then there's also the argument that these guys shouldn't have been fired. You know, you get with Harbaugh, with Tomlin, who Tomlin stepped away, wasn't fired, but I think you get just sick of it and you're just too used to it. They're not bad coaches. So, like, for the Cardinals, would you take Harbaugh? Would you take. Would you take Tomlin? Because that's the question. If Tomlin wanted to come and coach the Cardinals, we'd have to trade something for him or whatever. Would you be happy with that?

[Mike Wright]

The hard part for Tomlin is was he a. Like, what was his impact on not figuring things out post Ben Roethlisberger? Like, is that just someone else's gaffe? Because they. I mean, there was plenty of years where you're watching Big Ben try to finish his career, and you're like, what, guys? You gotta. You gotta start taking some shots. You gotta start getting some backup quarterbacks in here who might be the future of the team. You know, the retirement is coming, so.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he's not making personnel moves, so I mean, that. A lot of that doesn't lay at his feet.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I mean. Like, how much is at his feet? I don't have access to that information, but I know that a team without Ben Roethlisberger, even though they lose in the playoffs, they continue to overproduce for what that team. Look at all the other teams that don't have quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

They don't make the playoffs, Harbaugh and Tomlin, you know, certain coaches like McVeigh, Mike McDaniel, they have superpowers that we know in terms of play calling.

[Mike Wright]

I think Mike McDaniel should not have been fired, and I would take him.

[Andy Holloway]

The superpower for Tomlin and for Harbaugh is accountability. They're leaders. Everybody that's on, everybody on staff, Jeff Saturday, every player he wishes, they keep him accountable. And they outperform what you expect. I think that's what Stefanski did. I thought in Cleveland, they always outperform the personnel they had.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't agree that they did that.

[Andy Holloway]

Would I take him? Of course. Yeah, of course I would. Just for the imbued respect for a couple of years. So Bruce Arians brought.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

The league respected him, too. So did we Talk about Greg Roman going away.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mentioned that he. That G. Rowe had to get fired. But like the Tomlin and Andy Reid are not the same type of coach because Andy Reid brought his offense. But it's like the Philly people, were they. Well, we can't get over the hump. Andy Reid can't do. They boot him. After being one of, you know, the most successful coaches in Philadelphia history, he gets a job immediately and he's like, hey, Alex Smith, you want to go make the playoffs?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Unfortunately, coaching in the NFL is, if it works out, it's a great hire. And if it doesn't work out, it's an idiotic hire. Yeah, it's moronic and stupid and you should have seen the failure coming. You know, G Row, let's talk about Greg Roman. The separation of Harbaugh and Greg Roman. It's happened. They fired Greg Roman because someone had to get fired.

[Mike Wright]

He had to just be sobbing through that whole call.

[Jason Moore]

Probably you talk about Harbaugh. Yes, yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Not G Row getting fired. This is Harbaugh being like G. Roe might have.

[Andy Holloway]

Giro's like that makes sense.

[Jason Moore]

I've been. Do you know how long I've waited for this call?

[Mike Wright]

What are you're firing me for what? But again, we laid having a bad offense.

[Andy Holloway]

He had no offensive line.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he did not.

[Andy Holloway]

And then you didn't have Amari and Hampton for most of the year.

[Jason Moore]

And Najee, they lost Najee earlier.

[Andy Holloway]

And then it's like, ah, you should have made it work. And sure, but this, the NFL, it's.

[Jason Moore]

Hard, but this is the only offensive coordinator Harbaugh has had in the NFL. That's crazy to think about back in.

[Mike Wright]

San Francisco, the Chargers, the whole time.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So now it's like, what are we going to see with Harbaugh and a new oc? I'm very hopeful that they can grab one. Like if McDaniel doesn't get a head coach, head coaching gig, I would love to see him.

[Mike Wright]

We brought in our new oc. It's Greg Romain.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was going to say just.

[Mike Wright]

In a terrible wig.

[Andy Holloway]

In a disguise. The Eagles have fired head offensive coordinator Kevin Patullo.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. What?

[Andy Holloway]

For what?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, man, this was the.

[Mike Wright]

On what grounds?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm. I'm genuinely. I guess I'm not shocked, but I am surprised he made it all the way till after the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, they. What? This will be Shane Steichen, the only one that Jalen Hurts has had back to back years offensive coordinator all the.

[Jason Moore]

Way back to Alabama Lane, Kiffin, Dable, Locksley, Sarkeesian. I mean, it goes on and on.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm with you, Mike. I'm with you. It's a Robin Hood thing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, just keep going, Locksley. There it is. Goodness gracious. The question is, like, I've seen a lot of debate as to whether the offensive coordinators they've brought in have. Or if they have to dumb it down because Jalen hurts is bad.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And it's. It's something that you. We're not in the room. We don't know for sure whether they are dumbing it down or not. But we have seen Jalen Hertz with outstanding offenses as a. As a good enough passer. We've seen him win a Super Bowl. We've seen him lose in a Super bowl where he looked outstanding offensively. So I'm not personally on the side that, like, I think that the offensive coordinator was a real problem this year for the Eagles.

[Andy Holloway]

If you had to break the offensive problems down into a pie chart. How big of a piece is Patullo eating? How big of a piece is AJ Brown eating? How much do you lay at the feet of Jalen hertz?

[Jason Moore]

I'll lay 15% at Jalen Hertz, the vast majority at Petullo, and then I'll give like 10% to AJ Brown, and that's just the 10% of routes he quits on.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think the Jalen hurts debate is going to be one forever. And it's wild that it can be when you win a Super Bowl.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

But we've also had, like gone to two Super Bowls.

[Jason Moore]

One one.

[Mike Wright]

Not. Not just the win one.

[Jason Moore]

He's not good when you've been at two.

[Andy Holloway]

What was Joe Flacco?

[Mike Wright]

Joe Flacco, he's called a heater and it happens. He got in the playoffs and he's.

[Andy Holloway]

Talking about a Super Bowl. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That year for Joe Flacco was. That dude was at the tables and he was just point, point.

[Andy Holloway]

The Ravens were perennial playoff teams like the Eagles are. The Ravens were defensively led.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Like the Eagles are.

[Mike Wright]

And that particular year, Joe Flaccorn.

[Andy Holloway]

Bolden year. I want to say Derek Mason. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I just don't know. Like, let me put it this way. And just for the sake of debate, because this is the off season, we get to do this.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You're an NFL franchise and you're. You have a fantasy style draft for your quarterback. You got the number one pick in the league and go from there. Where Does Hertz fall in if you were truthfully drafting quarterbacks?

[Jason Moore]

That's.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that question. I mean, are you taking Justin Herbert for your franchise today? Are you taking Jalen Hurts?

[Jason Moore]

He would. Hertz, I think would be top 10. I believe I would take Herbert above him.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so you're taking Burrow. You want to do the list?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, let's do the list. For fun. Let's do the list.

[Andy Holloway]

You're taking Mahomes.

[Jason Moore]

You're taking Josh Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

Allen, yes. You're taking Lamar for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You're taking. You said Herbert. You're taking Burrow.

[Mike Wright]

Burrow for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

You're taking Herbert, you're taking Stafford.

[Jason Moore]

I would not take the hard problem because of the effort.

[Mike Wright]

Is he done?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm talking about you got to start a Super bowl day.

[Mike Wright]

Just one year.

[Jason Moore]

This is just one year.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, I mean, I'm just. I'm not looking at the age factor. I'm just saying from a talent standpoint at quarterback is what I'm trying to accomplish. I'm not trying to bring us into too tight of a box, but just like in terms of best quarterbacks in football game, if you go on like.

[Mike Wright]

That, then Stafford is probably like the third pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And that's. I think that's fair. I think in the playoffs right now, there's two quarterbacks that are like that, Allen and stafford. But that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Jaden Daniels.

[Mike Wright]

That's hard. That's debatable, man.

[Jason Moore]

I think I would take Jaden Daniels.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Would you take Dak?

[Mike Wright]

I think so.

[Jason Moore]

I think I would take that.

[Mike Wright]

I think I would take Dak.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, here's a real. Here's a real question mark again. This is for one year. Not. Age is irrelevant. Drake, maybe because what we've seen has been awesome, but the schedule. I know.

[Andy Holloway]

If you answer that question, Drake May. We've answered the entire question.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think I do. I think I go, jalen hurts. If I'm getting one year, I think I go, jalen hurts. Obviously, if I was building a franchise right now, the age gap and the youthfulness of Drake May, I would certainly go that way.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Bo Nix. I would go Jalen Hertz.

[Mike Wright]

I'd go Hurts, too.

[Andy Holloway]

I would, too.

[Jason Moore]

Trevor Lawrence. He looked great. I would go Hurts, probably. So where does that put him in top 12?

[Andy Holloway]

Ish. At nine.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so that's. Yeah, that's. That's about where I thought.

[Andy Holloway]

Are there some big names we're forgetting anybody over there? Brock Purdy.

[Jason Moore]

Baker.

[Andy Holloway]

How about Brock Purdy and Baker Mayfield?

[Mike Wright]

I like, I like Purdy.

[Jason Moore]

Dude. I think Purdy.

[Mike Wright]

Shut up, San Francisco.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you don't. You, you.

[Mike Wright]

Purdy's not getting out of the top two guys.

[Andy Holloway]

He just beat him.

[Mike Wright]

Purdy is great.

[Andy Holloway]

Purdy is a very, very Jacoby Brissette. No, I'm just kidding.

[Jason Moore]

That Brock Purdy is way better than he gets credit for.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I thought you were going to say Jalen hurts.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's better than Jalen hurts.

[Andy Holloway]

So you take him over.

[Jason Moore]

I would take him over. Jalen hurts.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, well, I'm sure this will be the comment, the comment maker for today's show. I just think it's, it's a little bit weird that situation because I do feel like when your offense is bad, you're not always going to have a great offensive coordinator. Right. Sometimes things are going to go a different direction. There have been quarterbacks, Baker, another one that's had a ton of different ones. Something falls at your feet. You got to figure something out. You got to, you got to learn to work in a system you don't love.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And the, the, a question of how do you go from 165, 157, 150 rushing attempts to 105 this year? Like where, where did that happen? Was that Jalen Hurst is just like, I'm old, I'm tired of getting hit.

[Andy Holloway]

Caleb Williams.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Jalen hurts. If this is a one year thing. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But like just, just this year, I.

[Jason Moore]

Think if you put.

[Mike Wright]

I think it still hurts. But Caleb is probably.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's close. It's close. But I would go. Hurts. I mean, Jordan love.

[Mike Wright]

Just Jordan love. I think Jordan loves really good.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go Hertz.

[Andy Holloway]

Sam Darnold.

[Mike Wright]

Can't. Can't.

[Jason Moore]

That's funny.

[Mike Wright]

Abstain.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want to, I don't want to take anything away from Hertz. He deserves all the praise of being a Super bowl winning, two time appearing quarterback, doing what he needs to do, but I would not. I don't feel like he's ever carried them.

[Mike Wright]

So.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it's, that's.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And this is all it is. You know, it's like when you've seen a player throw for 3,700 yards multiple times, always rushing for. I mean other than this year, 10 touchdowns, 13 touchdowns, 15 touchdowns, 14 touchdowns. Throwing for in the 20s that is a star. There's just not, there's not many people that can produce that many touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Who won the Super bowl for him.

[Jason Moore]

Last year who won the Super Bowl.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean last year was. Yeah. They didn't have Lane Johnson back for this game, right?

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

So that was one of the big absences in Saquon wasn't the same Saquon.

[Jason Moore]

Not at all.

[Andy Holloway]

It's an infinite discussion. What else do we have? We have Bryce Young's fifth year option getting picked up by the Panthers. He probably didn't have a choice there.

[Jason Moore]

Made the playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

I think they're.

[Andy Holloway]

Adam Thielen retiring from the National Football League.

[Mike Wright]

And now I rest. I rest.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh boy. Early buffets 89.9 million in career earnings.

[Jason Moore]

For Good for you man.

[Mike Wright]

Just the most ever for an undrafted free agent. Congratulations. Great career. One of the best. Literally one of the best Minnesota Viking wide receivers of all time.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Addison arrested.

[Mike Wright]

Oh my gosh. For trespassing from Adam Thielen to this.

[Andy Holloway]

At 3:46 in the morning on Tuesday morning.

[Jason Moore]

One of the not best Vikings wide receivers of all time.

[Mike Wright]

What was he doing? We don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

He was trying to race. But Rashi Rice for yes. The off season headlines.

[Mike Wright]

The fact that Jordan Addison already has the super speeding situation and then this weird mystery arrest. It just. It's not. It's not good, man.

[Andy Holloway]

It's 3 to 4 in the morning 3 just be asleep. That's what I do. I always try to fall asleep during that time period because then nothing can happen.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. We don't have any details.

[Andy Holloway]

No. We don't know exactly what happened other than you said it might involve a casino.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. That's where he was I believe.

[Andy Holloway]

3:46 in the morning at a casino. Jason. I know that makes sense there before.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, sounds like a good time. Just be careful.

[Andy Holloway]

Nico Collins not seen a practice on Wednesday. Ricky Pearsall optimistic to return this week I believe. Comments about Ricky Piercel as far as I can throw them. I can't throw a comment very far.

[Mike Wright]

The Nico Collins into a paper airplane.

[Andy Holloway]

A little bit further.

[Jason Moore]

The Nico Collins information is really important to track because this offense really needs him. I mean I know that they.

[Mike Wright]

They got Christian Kirk, man.

[Andy Holloway]

It's okay.

[Mike Wright]

It's okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

They.

[Jason Moore]

They put up what, 40 points by the end of that game or 30.

[Mike Wright]

The defense.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, but the defense. The defense did.

[Mike Wright]

The offense was into the first. The fourth quarter was not good.

[Jason Moore]

This next week they need Nico and I mean it's too early to know for sure but it's trending that he's potentially going to miss that game.

[Andy Holloway]

Had the short week four games. Let's go through them real quick. We're picking winners and losers. Fresh fresh chance for you guys to make the right choices.

[Mike Wright]

The the fact that they had to play Monday night because of football and Monday or football and money and your player gets concussed on a Monday as opposed like the other team's gonna have a Sunday concussion really easily can clear concussion protocol be back but on Monday is like that I it's the money machine. You can't stop it. But it's not fair.

[Andy Holloway]

It works in reverse though because if you had a player that was hurt that might not have made it back for Sunday that you get them back for Monday, we'd be saying in the opposite direction.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

For the Monday night game.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. I just I lean on the other side.

[Andy Holloway]

Broncos Buffalo pick your winner. The game is in Denver but they are home underdogs as a one seat. You know who I'm picking?

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to pick alongside you. I'm going to take the Bills to make it to the Super Bowl. We basically said that earlier which was even though we picked Jacksonville over the Bills.

[Andy Holloway]

It was kind of super old come from that path.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah yeah. I It's hard to bet against oh Denver's favorite now.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been better on the other side.

[Mike Wright]

Enough the like the Buffalo Bills last game that literally was. It came down to the better quarterback one because the teams it was very even the whole time. And then there were two huge opportunities at the end. One quarterback got it done, the other one did not. I'll spot. I just don't think the Bills are a good enough team. And we'll. They'll run into one of these Sundays. But I'll do it. I'll take the Broncos.

[Andy Holloway]

The Seahawks at home against the 49ers.

[Mike Wright]

The Seahawks will win.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm going to take the Seahawks as well.

[Mike Wright]

Me too.

[Jason Moore]

No George Kittle. No pass rush. A pass rush will do. Darnold in. They don't have one.

[Andy Holloway]

The Patriots at all against Houston. The Patriots in Houston is going to be I think a very close game. I think this will be a difficult one. I picked New England to go to the conference finals. That's where I'll stay. The conference championship game. But boy, that defense. It's going to be something that I feel like New England hasn't really experienced at all this year.

[Mike Wright]

The Nico being gone is massive. Yeah, it's like this is massive. Not every single team if you take off their top wide receiver. I'm as worried for that team and.

[Andy Holloway]

Christian Gonzalez for what it's Worth should be back, right?

[Jason Moore]

Look, look at what the Patriots did against Justin Herbert and the Chargers. Like the Patriots have a, have a very good defense as well. I know the Texans have probably the best defense in the playoffs right now, so they could certainly win it for them. But I'm going to take the Patriots there.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to take the Pats and.

[Andy Holloway]

The Rams away in Chicago. I've got the Bears. I think. I don't. I don't think the Stafford Rams are going to travel to the Windy City and get it done. I think the Bears.

[Jason Moore]

I don't blame you on that one. You're going to have frigid temperatures. I've seen a lot made of like Matthew Stafford is 1 and 9 in these very cold games. I don't have the data. I have to presume that a lot of those cold games came when he was playing for the Detroit Lions, who never won a lot of games because they were very, very bad at that point. And he's playing up in, you know, and probably in Chicago in some of those. So I'm going to still take the Rams. I think they are the better team, but that's going to be a fun game.

[Mike Wright]

I'll take the Rams, too.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

You want answers? I think I'm entitled.

[Mike Wright]

You want answers? I want the truth.

[Jason Moore]

You can't handle the truth.

[Mike Wright]

The wig fits finally.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

11 years and we finally got graphic.

[Andy Holloway]

Got redone.

[Mike Wright]

And it looks good.

[Andy Holloway]

It is.

[Jason Moore]

Honestly, Andy, I think maybe you should go about just every day in that thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Do we know why the powdered wig was a thing?

[Jason Moore]

We looked this up once, I think.

[Andy Holloway]

Did we? Yeah, we're rotating. Back to our musings of old. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Like, everything comes back right.

[Andy Holloway]

Not that one.

[Mike Wright]

Well, this. That was the point. I'm not having to. Of my.

[Andy Holloway]

All the chastity belts are coming back.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair. But my. My daughter, who's a junior in high school, just last week was like, dad, I wish you would have kept your jinkos.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And I'm like, well, that one.

[Andy Holloway]

That one came back.

[Mike Wright]

Like, we. We were ridiculous people. We were wearing pants that. That could house an entire family. And we're like, they went away. Everything went to the skinniest of skinny. We're back. Powder. Did powdered wigs ever do that? Did they go in?

[Jason Moore]

I don't think they're still. I think. Aren't they still used, like in Europe? Don't. Don't judges still wear them? I don't know. But according to our AI Overlords, powdered wigs became popular for hygiene hiding disease symptoms like syphilis induced baldness. The powder masking odors from lice.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that the.

[Jason Moore]

Is that true? That's.

[Mike Wright]

Why is it really hygiene?

[Andy Holloway]

That's where baldness comes from, Jack. Is that where baldness is?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, this is syphilis, everybody. But thankfully we graduated from white wig powdered wigs to baseball hat.

[Mike Wright]

But how is. How was that the wig? Is that the best they could do back then?

[Jason Moore]

That wig's awesome.

[Mike Wright]

It's not real hair, though.

[Andy Holloway]

I think in England they're called barristers, the attorneys. Right. Is it barristers? The barrister barristers Barristers, the truth at the quarterback position. Here we go. Quarterback scoring overall, here's some updates for you on the data we got from 2025. High end scoring especially. All of it was down. In 2025. We did not have one single quarterback average more than 23 fantasy points per game in the last five years. We had one a year. And then back in 2022 we had three. So high end scores, not as much this year, nobody above that mark. And then we only had one person above 22 fantasy points per game. Last year we had four of those.

[Jason Moore]

So you know which is, which is more normal. Four in 2022, five in 2021. This was. Yeah, this wasn't a great year. And we could blame a lot of different things. I think there's some injuries. Obviously. Lamar Jackson, who was supposed to compete for that number one pick, got banged up and hurt and didn't do no.

[Andy Holloway]

Jaden Daniels.

[Mike Wright]

Most of the NFL, everything is defenses eventually catch up.

[Andy Holloway]

The NFL averaged two fewer offensive plays per game this year. Fewest total pass attempts since 2011. And the scramble rate at the quarterback position, up, up and away from 4.5 in 2021 to 5% in 2023 to now, 5.5%.

[Jason Moore]

It makes sense with all the youthful quarterbacks, you know, the guys that are going to run are the young guys. And you look and you're like, okay, Drake May runs, obviously. Jaden Daniels ran when he was playing. Caleb Williams runs. Tyler Schuck runs. Jackson Dart runs.

[Mike Wright]

Dart will never not run.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Dart, stop running. And then you can't tell me what to do. Don't tell me how to live my life.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And again, scrambles are a percentage of dropbacks resulting in undesigned quarterback runs where they just take off. And you mentioned some of the reasons why. We do have an article on the website 25 quarterback statistics for the 2025 season. You can go look at that. But, Jason, talk to us about what the Truth series is and what it's all about so people understand what we're going through the next couple of weeks.

[Jason Moore]

So our goal here on not just quarterbacks, and there's the kind of different algorithmic scores for each position. Our goal is to really take a look at who helped you the most in fantasy, not just who finished first. Oftentimes who finished first helped you the most, that sometimes correlates. But as you go down the list, there are guys, it's like, wow, he finished as wide receiver 5. I don't remember him being very good. That's because he wasn't. It's because he had like three monster games. And so we, we try to break it down into basically what are great games for quarterbacks. In our scoring format, we've got more than 26 points. What are good games if they score more than 21, what's a bust game? Under 15. There are other categories in behind the scenes. I got nuclear games, I got super bus games to try to break down like all man, what, you know, what percentage of these games helped you versus hurt you and how. Not just like in general, what percentage helped you versus hurt you. But how does that compare this season to the field you would have been starting outside of this player. So the metrics change from year to year.

[Andy Holloway]

I think one of the like perfect examples of this is like in the first 12 weeks of the season, Kyle Pitts hit double digits at the tight end position two times.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He ended up the number two fantasy tight end. Number two in total fantasy points. I'm guessing week 15, I'm guessing that was one of your nuclear games. But we'll look at the truth. We'll start at quarterback. We're looking at 4 point per passing touchdown. We define a great game when we talk about it as 26 or more points. So that's a super duper game. Good games, 21 or more points. In bust games, if you score fewer than 15 points, we do not count missed games against your consistency score.

[Jason Moore]

And we do take out by hand manually some of those Week 18 games that like Josh Allen will not be penalized. Nobody was starting Josh Allen or Dak Prescott and those games where it's like you knew you can't start them because they might not play the whole game or they're just going to take one honorary snap.

[Andy Holloway]

So yeah, Josh Allen, excellent as always, number one overall, even when his team led the league in rush rate and in total rushing yards because he does some of that rushing himself. Consistency rank for Josh Allen, number one as well.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this like you talked about, this was a down year for quarterbacks. I was surprised that he was the number one inconsistency. He still had a handful of bad games, but this year pretty much all the quarterbacks had some down performances. So he gave you the most league winning upside games. And so in the end he was great. I don't think there's much to talk about. You look at how he's, you know, quarterback 443-2-122. That he is as safe, as reliable, as consistent as they can get. He doesn't have Weapons, it doesn't matter.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, let me, let me read what I think the highlight is for Josh Allen. Because if you just looked at his passing stats. Go ahead and read them real quick. His passing stats. I've got them.

[Jason Moore]

You just tell me what they are.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought you had them, Jay.

[Jason Moore]

That's all right.

[Andy Holloway]

3,600 yards and 25 passing touchdowns. You're like, oh, man, it's not great. 15 rushing touchdowns two years ago, 12 last year and 14 this year. So you're talking not just squeaking into the double digits, you're talking about hyper super significant rushing touchdown totals that bring up his score. 25% great games, 56% good and only 19% bus games for Josh Allen. And always, always with the ability to go nuclear and be the number one overall quarterback. Three of those games this year at number one on the week.

[Mike Wright]

For the love of all that is holy, get this man an elite wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he needs to just, he needs the new Stefan Diggs.

[Mike Wright]

Just do it.

[Andy Holloway]

And we're not talking, let me, let me be clear. We're not talking about adding Mac Hollins in the middle of the off season or I don't know, Josh Palmer or Brandon Cooks or Keon Coleman, a rookie in the draft. We're not talking about Curtis Samuel either.

[Jason Moore]

To be clear. We kind of were talking about Keon Coleman. As far as like taking the shot on that first round wide receiver that.

[Mike Wright]

You think he was a second rounder.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it was the first pick of the second round or something like that.

[Andy Holloway]

We are talking about A.J.

[Mike Wright]

Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

A.J.

[Jason Moore]

Brown works.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, sure.

[Andy Holloway]

So we're not talking about like this stage AJ Brown.

[Mike Wright]

I would take him.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not saying he's bad, but I.

[Andy Holloway]

Don'T know the fit for a year. All right, number two, we're not, like you said, let's not linger on Josh Allen.

[Jason Moore]

We always talk about, you know, he's good.

[Andy Holloway]

This one is the more interesting discussion. Number two, overall, Drake May, 23 years old, the quarterback. 15 in your drafts with a consistency rank of four. 24% great, 53% good. Only a 6% bust rate, which is awesome. He is the most interesting to me and Jason. I want you to talk about what you see in the truth from Drake May, because I remember from week nine through about week 15, he wasn't in the top 10 at the position. So I remember that little period of time. We're like, well, has he cooled off? This team doesn't they have a great defense, they can run the ball. Travion was Getting involved. Stevenson was back, but then in the fantasy playoffs, quarterback seven, quarterback two and won people championships. But you know, does he feel like the consistency rank of 4 is that representative in your mind?

[Jason Moore]

I think it is because he got off to a slow start. He had that stretch in the middle of the year where he wasn't, he wasn't crushing people, he wasn't killing people or like I lost because I was, because I was playing well. He had week two was, was really nice. But he had a lot of his.

[Mike Wright]

Buses two through four were over 20 and then a bad one against Buffalo and then six through eight. I mean two three game stretches right at the beginning, over 20 points.

[Jason Moore]

His, his kind of sandwich of week one and week five hurt his consistency score. If you were to take off the first five weeks of the season and look. And also that's when you know they weren't involving Trayvon Henderson as much early on. From week six on, he was the number one inconsistency score. So this is a guy who just got better as the season went on. You saw that obviously in your fantasy playoffs. He won people championships, did everything that you hoped when you, when you drafted him. I don't have a lot of negatives to say other than what we talked about Jaden Daniels and we didn't get to see it play out this year. But Jaden Daniels, in his rookie season, he had one of the easiest schedules imaginable. It was awesome. And then we're like, well, how will he do with a tougher schedule? That's what we're going to learn next year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, their schedule is going to change.

[Jason Moore]

You can't complain about just dominating this year as the number two overall quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

His draft spot next year will be very interesting to. Because I think especially if they get to the conference title game or beyond.

[Mike Wright]

People are going to be in, they're.

[Andy Holloway]

Just going to be, it's just going to be one of those players that's extremely exciting to have on your roster.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm not going to blame anybody for wanting to have him as their quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

We were in on, on Jane Daniels this year. Right. I think we just, we watched the film and we're like in the draft season we were fine taking the shot on Jaden Daniels last year or this year. No, I'm talking going into this year's draft season, we were willing to take a shot on knowing that the schedule might be harder just based on the film and what you saw. And that's exactly how I feel about Drake May when you Watch the film. I know it wasn't tough pass rushes and great corners and all this, but what he did was perfection. His pocket movement, his decision making, his ball placement. It's like you, you can't ask for almost anything more than he did this year.

[Andy Holloway]

You will have a slight debate with me. Believing in Drake May is believing in a pocket passer to a much greater degree than believing in Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels ran for 890 yards as a rookie. So that will be a small different. That's one of the reasons I had confidence in Jaden is that hey, it doesn't matter how bad the defense or good the defense is, you're going to find a way with that kind of rushing yardage.

[Mike Wright]

May was at 450 right half that.

[Jason Moore]

I think Mike's point is that's still a great number for most it is.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's not, it's not going to be enough if he throws for, you know, 22 passing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's the difference between a Jackson Dart type of player versus a Drake May type of player.

[Mike Wright]

One has a nice baseline that was the fourth most rushing yards at the quarterback position.

[Andy Holloway]

One of the things I didn't mention for Josh Allen, he was much better at home. Allen was 26 points at home, 15 on the road. Drake May was much more even. He was actually better on the road, three points better per game. He had 12 top 12 finishes. He was. And I think his draft spot will be very interesting because you're going to have a healthy Lamar starting next year. You have Jaden Daniels back in the equation. I put Drake May. Drake May. I'll be in the borough area. To me probably behind Burrow.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go Burrow.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what behind Burrow means. We agree with each other.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Were you talking?

[Jason Moore]

He was looking in a mirror. Thought he was.

[Mike Wright]

My screen's not on guy. Wait, you guys use a screen? I'm just checking myself out.

[Andy Holloway]

No. So we agree though we would take Burrow above Drake.

[Jason Moore]

We do agree.

[Andy Holloway]

So yeah, finishing it to being drafted maybe more in the five or six range. We'll see. Matthew Stafford comes in at number three in the fantasy football finish. 37 year old Matthew Stafford drafted by nobody and with a consistency rank of number two.

[Jason Moore]

Jason, he was the thorn in my side of this consistency metric with the scoring that we have. You've got a bunch of. Every year there's someone that just gets over like the threshold there is arbitrary, you know, arbitrary lines that we draw on the sand of like Well, a good game is this. It's like, oh, you got to score 15 points but if you go out there and you score 15.13 times, it really he was on the bubble. So consistency rank of two. Obviously him or May, one of them is going to be the MVP this year. So not a lot to complain about through touchdowns like crazy this year which he hadn't been doing earlier. Thank you devonte Adams. That is very helpful. Obviously for fantasy purposes. A great story coming from late in your draft too. Great. But I don't, I don't agree with my own ranking here of him being like number two in consistency simply because he had a lot of non bust games that were not super helpful.

[Mike Wright]

He threw more touchdowns this year than his previous two seasons combined.

[Andy Holloway]

It was just an extremely special year. Devonte Adams made a tremendous difference in how they viewed the goal line packages. The touchdown totals, 35% bust rate for him compared to the 6% for Drake May. So you know from that perspective your risk when it went bad was much higher. But it didn't go bad very much, especially from week four on. I mean if you had just locked in with Matthew Stafford from week four on, you were in much better shape than Drake May from a week to week basis. Unless you started him in championship week, that would be the one week where it really, really hurts you. First of six, one of six quarterbacks ever with 4746 in a season.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he is clearly going to be overdrafted to me next year. The way that I see it, you know, he's a exactly interesting because people are going to be unsure. He just looks great assuming he's back. And devonte, I think they roll it back.

[Mike Wright]

My interesting was I think he'll just be left not left for dead like he was this year, but almost completely left to a later quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

I mean if he is, if he's.

[Andy Holloway]

What did you say?

[Jason Moore]

I think he's going to be. I think he's going to be overdrafted. I think what's going to happen with him is basically what happened with Baker Mayfield where when you throw for 40 touchdowns and you look great, people are going to be like I want 40 touchdowns again.

[Mike Wright]

Baker was still like they won't. Baker was still like a seventh or eighth round pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Matthew Stafford will be beyond that.

[Jason Moore]

If Matthew Stafford is a double digit, he'll be round guy 9, obviously 9 to 11. I'll be happy to take him in the 11th round.

[Andy Holloway]

I bet everybody we talk about today, you'll draft Ahead of him.

[Jason Moore]

Probably true, but will other people number?

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, he was a little bit at home.

[Jason Moore]

Baker was a little bit better at home as the quarterback. Seven off the board, right behind Mahomes this year. So I, and I this year, it seemed like, wow, that was to me like the one guy that seemed a little outlier from the year before.

[Andy Holloway]

And Stafford's just in a different category for me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, maybe the age will keep him off of draft boards for people a.

[Andy Holloway]

Little bit better at home, like I said. And then against top and bottom, defense is pretty evenly distributed. Number four, Trevor Lawrence.

[Jason Moore]

Crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

Number four, Trevor Lawrence, who has a consistency rank of six. Number one in the second half of the season.

[Jason Moore]

Number consistency, 21 in the first half. This was. It didn't even look like it was going to be a special season at all. But what happened when this team got it together after their bye week? Basically when they came out of their bye week, I kept waiting for them to not be as good as they had been playing. And they just won game after game after game. Their offense looked great and they were, you know, a very rare little missed field goal away from going into overtime with the Bills in the playoffs. This team is fully legit. And I just don't know. Trevor Lawrence's has always looked good on a highlight reel. You look, you put on his highlights, it's like, wow, this is a special player. Talented, athletic run.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a lot like Caleb.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but. But his most consistent feature has always been his inconsistency. And now all of a sudden, the second half of the year, he never stopped.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't you guys get concerned about ETN in the first half of the year after he had the hot streak? And it was like, oh, look at these rushing defenses he played. And from that point on, it was like they threw the ball so effectively with Trevor Lawrence and you wouldn't have expected it necessarily with Travis Hunter going out with Brian Thomas disappearing. And yet both of those things happen. And then he has his run of number one. Overall consistency, 18% great games, 41% good games, 29% bust, which is a higher number. But man, those first four weeks, first seven weeks, really, those really hurt. What?

[Mike Wright]

29% bus games is not the end of the world. And it's the snapshot of his career of 20, 21, 0% great, 6% good. The next year, 12 great, 35% good. Okay, we're on the path. But then it drops to 6 and 19. Last year, 0% great games, 20% good. And this year, 18% 41%. I mean these are massive upgrades and is. Did it just. Did the new offense click halfway through the year? The Liam Cohen offense is the Cohen offense with what happened last year with the Bucks and this year with the Jags, he knows what he's doing. So it's just.

[Jason Moore]

Do you.

[Andy Holloway]

This is the one. This is the one where overdraft concern comes to mind because I think I could talk myself into him being great.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean Parker Washington, Travis Hunter, Brian Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

I love that we lead with Parker Washington. Deservedly so.

[Andy Holloway]

Britton Strange, Jacoby Myers, we'll see what the running back situation looks like.

[Jason Moore]

And if they're going to use his legs, which you know that was one of the things that this was the.

[Andy Holloway]

Most he'll use his whole body.

[Jason Moore]

Ran for 359 yards and nine rushing touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

It's the nine rushing touchdowns because he's had two other years over 300 rushing yards and year two was 291. So he was right there at. It was a rushing touchdowns spiking which that happened with Baker last year as well.

[Jason Moore]

So it with Liam Cohen.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

So perhaps that is just the way that the defense has to play. It opens things up for a little bit more of the quarterback scrambling.

[Andy Holloway]

He is one of two quarterbacks that has had 4,000 passing, 29 passing touchdowns and nine rushing touchdowns in the same year.

[Jason Moore]

Him and Josh Allen.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Crazy. Crazy. Different quarterback from week nine on than what we have ever really seen before. And couldn't get it done against Josh in the playoffs. Had his opportunity, had the ball in his hands at the end of the.

[Jason Moore]

So this episode is supposed to be the truth. And he is the biggest question mark of the truth when you say which one's true. First half Trevor Lawrence, which is also known as first five years of career of Trevor Lawrence or the second half of this special season. But he's only 26 years old.

[Andy Holloway]

If you had to lock Dak Prescott or Trevor Lawrence in as your quarterback for the entirety of next year, today.

[Jason Moore]

I would do Dak.

[Mike Wright]

I would need to know that George is there.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Draft capital, right, because of Parsons. So they should have a chance at least to bring in some impact players.

[Andy Holloway]

So I mean, I think that there is a, you know, we're going to look back at this season and say that's probably the worst the defense is ever going to be. But Dak has been very, very good for a very, very long time since he, you know, as long as he's got those weapons. How big of a differential do you look at Jason if George is gone versus George being there and you're ceiling for Dak on a week to week basis.

[Jason Moore]

I don't, I don't see George as absolute mission critical for Dak to succeed. Is he helpful? Absolutely. It's just great to have another good target. But it's not like he had, you know, George, two years earlier when Dak was the quarterback. Three, he was the quarterback five. What's that?

[Mike Wright]

See you at a CD Lamb, who was two years younger.

[Jason Moore]

Sure, CD Lamb. I mean, that was the year where CD Lamb and Dak won everybody championships, but they didn't really have a wide receiver. Two of note. I think that was Brandon Cooks. You know, whatever. My point is, I think Dak can get it done basically, if Dak plays a season. You know, you look back at the last, his entire career, he has three years where he didn't play 16 games. And in those they were, they were lost, busted seasons to catastrophic injuries. So take those out. Every other year of his career he's been a quarterback one and most of the time he's a top six quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

So his consistency has always been below where he finishes though. So that's been more of the volatility with Dak, the great years. He's even this one. Right. He's a little bit lower than where he finishes in terms of some weeks it just doesn't seem to work out for him. Other weeks it looks like he's unstoppable more momentum wise. I mean, even in this season you had bookended weeks of 4, 2, 3 and 4. Those are amazing. 25th against Minnesota and 18th against Arizona in a game you thought he would kill. That's just one thing that stands out to me a little bit with Dak. Much better at home as well. Six points better per game at home. Is CD the same CD I don't know. That'll be a question.

[Jason Moore]

I think CD is outstanding, a top 10 NFL wide receiver, but I doubt that CD Lamb is like Mike said he was two years younger two years ago. And that makes a difference. I don't think CD Is going to have his. He's already had his best year of his career when all is said and done. But he's still a fantastic, you know, top option.

[Andy Holloway]

Set as career high in passing yards and passing attempts. And the passing attempts should come down if they can improve their defense.

[Jason Moore]

Could have been the first ever Dallas Cowboy to lead the NFL in passing yardage. He was leading, I believe going into the final week of the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Stafford pass him or.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Stafford and I think someone maybe Goff passed him, but it was like he didn't play the game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they shut him down.

[Jason Moore]

They shut him down and let Milrose Place in there. Or is that.

[Mike Wright]

No, you're Milton. You're thinking of Milton.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you went Jalen Milton, Joe. Yeah. So that I Don't know. I feel like they did him nine or two.

[Andy Holloway]

One Joe.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like they did him a little dirty. I get it. You're not playing for anything. See what you got there. Don't get that.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't he play some of that game?

[Jason Moore]

He played about half, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Number six, Caleb Williams, 24 years old, drafted in the 12th round. Consistency rank for Caleb of 10. That feels about right. 12% great games. So not a huge number there. 41% good, 35% bust. Are we figuring it out with Caleb? Is this Luther Burden, Colston, Loveland? Like, look, if you look at those two players, if you tell me moving forward, they're the two I'm most excited about in your offense. In this 17 game sample, you had contributions from them in about four games. Not much. Right. Loveland was a late season addition. Burden kept getting banged up and then, you know, barely worked into the offense. I think Caleb is going to be probably the most controversial quarterback to draft because I could see he'll go way above Matthew Stafford.

[Jason Moore]

He'll go so highly drafted. You're going to have to take your, you're going to have to call your shot on Caleb and you're going to say because of what we've seen from these weapons, what we've seen from Loveland the last couple of weeks of the regular season, these playoff weeks, what we've seen from Burden, knowing that you'll have a healthy Roma dunes a year two in the Ben Johnson system, there will be someone in every single league that will take Caleb so high, Top five quarterback drafted because one per all it takes is one person in each league to believe that he's going to be the superstar special, really breakout to the next level player.

[Andy Holloway]

When you look at and did you have a concluding thought there?

[Jason Moore]

Sorry, my only concluding thought is I won't be that guy pulling the trigger.

[Andy Holloway]

It's interesting because these, these guys, the last three we debated with Lawrence and Stafford and now Caleb, it's like, we love your play caller. We love them. We love Sean McVeigh, we love Liam Cohen and we love Ben Johnson. And so from a predictive standpoint, those are the guys that you want to look at and say like, Baker's changing them every year, Jalen Hurts is changing them every year. These three guys, those are your play callers next year. So if you want to, you know, hang your hat on something that gives you a little bit of confidence that it can at least stay around where they're at now, Caleb took advantage of bad defenses more than Any of these other quarterbacks we've talked about so far he was six points better against bottom half defenses than he was top half defenses.

[Mike Wright]

It's not. It's not uncommon. But there are some red flags here. Of Caleb Williams completed 58% of his passes.

[Jason Moore]

Unacceptable.

[Mike Wright]

That is the only. Let's see should Doer and J.J. mcCarthy were worse among qualifiers.

[Jason Moore]

Like dude, I'm telling you, if you watch Caleb Williams this year, I want to see the stats first drive from the second drive to the second to last drive that. That part of the game because first the scripted drive for every Bears game. It was like, wow, Caleb's good. 9 of 10 passing just looks sensational. It's like they come out and they look hot and then he sucks until they're down by a couple scores. Like if you could take just the first part of the first quarter and the second half of the fourth quarter away. I feel like he's got to be like 25% completion percentage.

[Mike Wright]

I want to know what his splits are. Completion percentage of passes completed or attempted with both feet on ground.

[Jason Moore]

That's probably 3%.

[Mike Wright]

And then passes with at least one foot in the air or none.

[Andy Holloway]

So his completion percentage dropped 5% this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's one of the red flags that you're talking about. It's concerning and that is it was a new offense. Maybe that had something to do with it. The fact that he was at 63% before. You know, maybe he can get back there. But it's like that is not.

[Mike Wright]

Touchdown rate went up substantially. The interceptions did not. He's a. He is a very bizarre player because I think he.

[Andy Holloway]

You would think the offensive line improvements would improve the completion percentage. But he's also challenging down the field a lot.

[Mike Wright]

He has true, true elite attributes for a quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Oh man. His laser beam.

[Mike Wright]

But as like right now I don't think he's a great quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Which I mean that's.

[Mike Wright]

He could but.

[Andy Holloway]

But when you think you're 100% right and I think that that's what's so.

[Jason Moore]

Tantalizing about with yeah that's the hope is like what if he develops into.

[Mike Wright]

If he. Josh Allen's. He will be a top three quarterback. Or maybe Josh Allen you're like I'm the best quarterback in the league. But I mean you take that type of a jump he will be a top three quarterback in the league.

[Jason Moore]

The thing that is frustrating about these weapons should be affirming for Caleb Williams. You don't know where the ball Distribution is going to go. Is it Rome, Is it Burden, Is it Loveland? DJ Moore is going to get a few as well. But they all go to Caleb Williams. And this is an offense that I think everybody wants a piece of this. Like you look at, they scored 31 points, 47 points. 31, 31, 38. Like they're putting up big time fantasy performances.

[Andy Holloway]

When you target Colson loveland, you complete 72% of your passes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Mr. Loveland.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we have the numbers.

[Andy Holloway]

That'll help.

[Mike Wright]

They're weird.

[Jason Moore]

They're weird.

[Mike Wright]

This will shock you.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

A stat about Caleb Williams and it's weird.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, I'm shocked.

[Mike Wright]

First quarter, he completed just under 61% of his passes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. So up from his average second quarter.

[Andy Holloway]

We'Re going to take that one off.

[Mike Wright]

53.75.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Okay. That's what I saw.

[Mike Wright]

Halftime. Get it going. Third quarter, completes almost 63% of his pass.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Fourth quarter completes just over 56% of his pass.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. That's why it's got to be the final drive.

[Mike Wright]

He loves the odd quarter.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's an odd cat. Loves those.

[Mike Wright]

He's an odd cat. He plays one on the odd quarters.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this, I want to recognize this and watch it for however long the Bears are in the playoffs. I think one week, but maybe several. We used to play a game in the office while we watched Caleb Williams, Mike and I.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, yes.

[Jason Moore]

Where whenever he took the snap, especially in shotgun, we'd basically just start screaming at the TV like, oh, crap.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, crap.

[Jason Moore]

Oh crap. And it's really fun because that's what it looked like was running through Caleb Williams head every time he had the.

[Mike Wright]

Ball before he even gets to read one. Yeah, he's like, oh, crap.

[Jason Moore]

It didn't look that way the last couple of weeks. The last couple of weeks I saw.

[Andy Holloway]

When he was fading backwards with his feet up in the air.

[Jason Moore]

No, there were, there were, there were plays that did, but it used to be every play and now it's like I saw plays where I was like, hey, he looks. He's just, he's actually just in the, in the pocket making a read and taking a shot. So he is obviously very young. He's only in year two, 24 years old. He can take that level up and he's got the weapons and everything built around him to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

It'll be exciting. And at a minimum, he's going to be high. Yeah, he'll probably be the too expensive guy.

[Mike Wright]

Probably.

[Andy Holloway]

Bo Nix at 7. Consistency rank of 12, really disappointing year for Bo Nix. That's my summary of this year.

[Mike Wright]

I am in agreement.

[Andy Holloway]

12% great and 29% good and 35% bust. You. This is kind of, I feel like you have drawn a line now in these, in these, the first six versus where we're at with Bo Nix. You came in with high expectations. 7th round draft pick. Right. So drafted ahead of your Caleb Williams, drafted head of Lawrence, ahead of Dak, ahead of Stafford certainly. And really just, I'm going to say, like, just not good for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

Not at all. There. There were big performances from time to time. You couldn't always predict when they were going to come. Sometimes it looked like the Broncos played down to their competition. So you'd be like, oh, this, they're going to wipe the floor with this team. And then they just didn't. Their offense was sometimes awesome and sometimes didn't travel with them. And you know, you talked about play callers. I still like Sean Payton. I like his offenses and his teams for production. So I'm confident obviously that he'll have that rolling into another year and another year going forward.

[Andy Holloway]

What'd you love about. What'd you love about Dallas?

[Jason Moore]

I loved that their defense was so bad that you had to score 30 to win.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a bit of a problem.

[Jason Moore]

It is a real problem because the Broncos defense is darn good and I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Not sure he could do it if they needed him to.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not sure he couldn't do it if they needed him to.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, look, Bo Nicks, look, I do not think that the way he played this season locks him in as they're started for the next five years. I'll put it that way.

[Jason Moore]

I think. I mean, getting the number one seed, I think does it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's a fair argument. 3925 with 11 picks. It's fine. It's fine, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, that's what it was. It was fine. He was. I mentioned this a couple shows ago that I think the two quarterbacks that, you know, there's, there's different approaches in your draft season and for us, I think universal. I know, at least for me, the two late targets were Bo Nix and Drake May. Those were the guys that projected to take that leap forward. They had a rushing baseline, they liked their offenses, blah, blah, blah. One was good, one was bad as a pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he. Let me give you some numbers here. Weird season. And by the way, people need to remember and I'll remind them so the comments are less Inflammatory? We're talking about fantasy football. Just because. Look, Bonix was not a very useful fantasy football quarterback. That doesn't mean they're not the number one seed. Right. It didn't mean he didn't accumulate some stats. It meant on a week to week basis his consistency rank barely got him in the top 12 at the position and wasn't what we expected from the seventh round pick. Among 38 qualifying quarterbacks with 200 plus drop backs he was 24th in completion percentage, first in sac rate.

[Jason Moore]

I did not know that.

[Andy Holloway]

30Th and off target rate. That's not good.

[Jason Moore]

Both of those feel like a Caleb Williams number. That's what's supposed to be Caleb Williams, not bo nix.

[Andy Holloway]

And third in 20 plus carry yard attempts. We like that one so. And by the way, first and SAC rate means sack the least.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's protected.

[Jason Moore]

Oh okay.

[Mike Wright]

He's protected. All right.

[Jason Moore]

That's why I was so surprised. I was like I didn't see that. Even worse.

[Andy Holloway]

Makes the red flags annoying because he did have time. Right. He takes shots down the field, those payoffs. Sometimes he doesn't get sacked a lot. But then he completes the 24th most percentage of passes and then is off target like crazy. Which we saw all the time.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my gosh.

[Andy Holloway]

That. Nobody loves running out of the pocket and missing a throw more than Bone Hicks. Yeah, like I swear in his head he's going I'm Patrick Mahomes when he does that.

[Mike Wright]

He has a superstar wide receiver too now though, so it's okay.

[Jason Moore]

Which one are you talking.

[Mike Wright]

Oh come on.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah, that guy.

[Andy Holloway]

That guy. Listen Mike, you need to leave some room for your guys to. So that when they are superstars for real, you can then like have a way to describe them, right?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

If you describe Pat Bryant as a superstar today, then later on if he does become one, you don't have any more words left.

[Mike Wright]

No, I do. It's still superstar. Okay. All right, I'll just, I'll be at the party and then everyone can show up and I'm going to. Let me just be belligerent.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't remember numbers for superstars. Well, let me see. Is it 31 for 378. Oh, in one year he did have one touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

He did catch 31 passes on.

[Jason Moore]

You know who I'd rather have.

[Mike Wright]

No, you would not.

[Jason Moore]

Yes I would.

[Andy Holloway]

No you would.

[Jason Moore]

I would 100% rather have.

[Andy Holloway]

Realistically. That makes sense. You wouldn't take Franklin.

[Mike Wright]

No. Pat Bryant is the two. Pay attention.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you mean he's the two?

[Mike Wright]

He's the two.

[Jason Moore]

You're saying he's going to be the two?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. He is the two moving forward because.

[Jason Moore]

709 and 6 says that someone else was the two.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

The numbers say something. You can like him, Mike, but the year Mike is over.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Calendar has turned.

[Andy Holloway]

Do we want to talk about one more quarterback? Do we got time for that?

[Jason Moore]

Sure. He's the most consistent one out there.

[Andy Holloway]

He is.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he's consistent in that he finished as the quarterback eight on the season. His consistency rank on the season was quarterback eight. His first half consistency rank was eight and his second half consistency rank was eight. So I would say he was darn consistent consistently what he was this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Consistently.

[Jason Moore]

Number eight.

[Andy Holloway]

Number eight. It's Jalen Hurts. And we had the discussion to start the show. Definitely didn't deliver on a quarterback three draft spot in the third round.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

So that, that was a big time bummer.

[Jason Moore]

It was Patui.

[Andy Holloway]

Real struggle against top 16 defenses. Five to six points less in the tough defensive matchups. Much better at home. So if you were on the road against a. If you're on the road against a tough defense, you didn't see very much fantasy production. I'm looking at this game log. I'm not seeing very many of the kind of like vintage Jalen Hertz wins you your week type of weeks. 13% great, 44% good, 31% bust. The designed runs were down. We talked about that. It was inexcusable to me. Didn't have the protection of the running game being as good as it was last year with Saquon Barkley, constant controversy with the past catchers, 3200 yards and 25 touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I mean, this was his lowest percentage of great games in the last five years, his lowest percentage of good games in the last five years, and the highest percentage of bust games in the last five years.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a big deal.

[Jason Moore]

It was a really bad year. If you drafted Jalen Hertz and just tried to write him, he was okay. He didn't crush you, but he didn't give you. He didn't return on the draft. Capital. And now the question going forward next year, what is the truth is, are the weapons going to get better? Is another year older, A.J. brown going to be more motivated next year? How's this defense? The defense is part of the problem. Same for Bo Nix. A lot of the games that the Eagles won this year, they did so without needing a lot from their offense because Their defense was so doggone good. But I believe that getting a new offensive coordinator, I mean, TBD on who they hire, but getting another one in there will be just awesome. Patullo had no. It was like. I feel like it was just the same formation almost every play and it's the same route. It would just look like. Looked like he had three plays all season.

[Andy Holloway]

He was definitely a problem. But we are going to go into the off season with mysteries here that aren't going to be solved until you see them play football. Especially when it comes to, like, the, you know, we know what Devontae Smith's going to. He'll be there and he'll be good. But the A.J. brown, question mark. The new offensive coordinator, question mark. Saquon's going to get a year older. What's the running game look like? What is that? Is Lane Johnson going to be healthy? Is the offensive line going to be healthy? They've got a lot of money locked up in these void years. They might have to do some reworking of their. Their situation.

[Mike Wright]

Barkley, you know, like Barkley last year and Henry also, where it was like, you know, they kind of had to. Hey, no. What? No elite running backs are worth the money. You got to go get them. They can. They can change your team. Locked. And you're like, don't worry about how old they are. We really flipped that on his head because Barkley is not worth what he's being paid right now.

[Andy Holloway]

And look, if they bounce back, then.

[Mike Wright]

He'Ll be worth it.

[Andy Holloway]

Everything's great. If they don't, you tell me. Philly has patience for Sirianni.

[Mike Wright]

I can't believe he is holding his power.

[Andy Holloway]

You're going to have.

[Jason Moore]

He literally won the super bowl last year.

[Mike Wright]

I understand that.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Philadelphia. He's also got a. He's very loud.

[Jason Moore]

If they have a disappointing year next year, he will get kicked in the sack out of town for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

That's how Philly does it.

[Mike Wright]

Get kicked out of town. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

We are going to wrap it up, but I'm going to give you number nine and number 10. Just the numbers. Jared Goff came in at nine. Consistency of 11, 12% great. 35%, 35% bust. But yeah, Jared Goff definitely finished stronger. But not week 17. Don't pay attention to that. Justin Herbert came in at 10 with a consistency rank of 9. It's funny because you look at these game logs and it's like they didn't help you. Well, they didn't help you. And like I'm just remembering the reaction to Justin Herbert in week one. One good week of Herbert. Just remember this. You know, we always have our. We're going to have our 10 things to remember episode. Justin Herbert's one of mine because the her bros, it was, it was like the most confirmation bias you could ever have. It was like, well, I love Justin Herbert, right? We all love him. He can be great. We've seen him great before. And then it's like Harbaugh and Giro. Let's go, let's see what he's got. Oh my gosh. Kansas City finished number two. Look, a lot of trades were made after week one to either get him or cash in. And it didn't work out after that point. Pretty much 25% great. Look, 25% great's a good number. Like so if you had a blow up game, that's cool, you got a handful of those you really didn't finish in between the great and the bust very often at 25% great. 50% bus games. That doesn't work here. Here's the least kind I want at quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the truth about Quarterbacks. To wrap up the episode of the Truth about Quarterbacks, we just looked at the top 10 and when you get past the top six, they hurt you almost as much as they helped you. They didn't return on draft capital even though like Justin Herbert finishes the quarterback 10 wasn't really helpful. So therefore either you get one of the studs or you stream the position because matchups matter as much. I mean, if you just are playing Justin Herbert or Jared Goff or these guys every single week, they're not going to help you win. You need to get multiple guys or stream off the waiver wire, get a Jacoby Brissette off the waiver wire, get, you know, Trevor Lawrence off the waiver wire and just Tyler Shuck. Yeah, play, play the heaters. I mean, I lost a championship in the Lister League to Tyler Schuck.

[Andy Holloway]

The nice thing is, is you're obviously going into the season trying to find the diamond in the rough. And if you get your Drake May, you're happy. And if you get your bonix, you pivot and you stream because you didn't invest too much. So let's get into the Face off.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy. Face off presented by prize picks.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Jason and Lucky you.

[Jason Moore]

Wheel of shame.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, well, well. Jason ended up losing Mike and I think we were three for four. Jason was some combination of two for three or two for four. If you. Nico was three for 21 in the.

[Jason Moore]

Should have tied, but let's spin that wheel, baby.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I should have gone 4 for 4. If we're going with that logic, Nico. No.

[Andy Holloway]

Is this one?

[Mike Wright]

No. But I had a guy who didn't hit his projection.

[Andy Holloway]

Smoking.

[Jason Moore]

Oh. Oh, yeah, baby. The mask.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness. This is what we got for you.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. He might die for real, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

You can do it.

[Jason Moore]

I lost him here.

[Mike Wright]

I believe in you, Jason. Yay. All right. Oh, that's not terrifying.

[Jason Moore]

This doesn't even look like the map. This just looks like a green alien.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You're funny.

[Mike Wright]

It's very stretched out.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Can you breathe? All right, starting at the quarterback position this week, it's my Green Goblin at the quarterback position. Brock Purdy, 0.5 passing touchdowns. I'm taking the more.

[Mike Wright]

The mask doesn't wear glasses. He's a superhero. Think about a superhero wearing glasses.

[Jason Moore]

The mask is a superhero.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he is. Once the mask is on, Brock purdy.

[Andy Holloway]

More than 0.5. Mike, what do you got?

[Mike Wright]

I went with Caleb Williams. 231 and a half passing yards. I'm going more.

[Andy Holloway]

That was almost mine.

[Mike Wright]

We're going. Let's get crazy, man. Caleb Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know what he's going to do, but let's enjoy the ride.

[Jason Moore]

I've got Matthew Stafford.

[Andy Holloway]

Those glasses are falling off your face.

[Jason Moore]

On the other side. I've got Matthew Stafford on the other side. I'm going 19 and a half fantasy points. Oh, I'm going more. I think that's going to be a.

[Andy Holloway]

Shootout at the running back position. You know him. You love him. His name's Herman Dre Stevenson.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Moore]

He's.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm taking the rushing and receiving combo of 59 and a half. I'm taking.

[Mike Wright]

The more you, you are. The mask went to a retirement home. What are you doing with those? This is my Green Goblin. You got Ramandre. I got Travion Henderson. Because all he needs is a catch.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

A catch.

[Jason Moore]

That's your Green Goblin. That's a good find.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it's 0.5. If he has a catch, it will be more than the projection of 0.5.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what it is.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

That's like.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, next one.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, sir.

[Jason Moore]

Mine is Travion Henderson, 0.5.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

No, not really. I just wish it was.

[Mike Wright]

That's a good one.

[Jason Moore]

That was a good one. No, I've got your other guy. Who is my green goblin, Christian McCaffrey.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my king.

[Jason Moore]

He needs more than 39 and a half rushing yards for me to hit.

[Mike Wright]

Dude, you want me to confess something here? Yeah. Is he your goblin?

[Jason Moore]

He is my goblin.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Because his the non goblin Christian McCaffrey projection was like 57 and a half rushing yards and I was like, you almost went. I know what I have to do, which is take the less. But I. But I won't. I won't do it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Even though it's the right thing to do, I won't.

[Jason Moore]

At 39 and a half.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You think you got it?

[Jason Moore]

CMC's got that.

[Andy Holloway]

My wide receiver. It's going to be Khalil Shakir because.

[Mike Wright]

Well, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got to use him.

[Jason Moore]

Does he?

[Andy Holloway]

Seven receiving targets. Oh, I'm taking the more for Khalil Shakir.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, he does have to use him. They lost Gabe Davis to an acl.

[Mike Wright]

That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

They do not have reliable weapons. They're going to. Three of those. Four of those targets are going to be screen game targets right out of the bat.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm taking seven. And I'm taking the more interesting.

[Mike Wright]

I have Cortland Sutton. His projection is at four receptions. I'm going more.

[Jason Moore]

I've got Cortland Sutton. His projection is six and a half targets. I'm going more.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I hope we're both right then.

[Andy Holloway]

And no surprise here.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe. Oh, come on now, Cole. Mr. Loveland.

[Andy Holloway]

Mr. Loveland, 4.5 receptions. I'm taking the more.

[Mike Wright]

Mr. Loveland, 4Point5 receptions. I will take the more.

[Jason Moore]

Mr. Loveland,55 and a half receiving yards. I'm taking the more. Oh, all right.

[Andy Holloway]

Triple Loveland.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. That was Fantasy Face off presented by Prize Picks. Join millions of users and sign up for America's number one fantasy sports app. Use the code footballers and get $50 in lineups when you play. Five dollars. I want the people at home to know one thing before I close this show out, which I'm sure Jason wants me to do as fast as possible.

[Jason Moore]

Why?

[Andy Holloway]

Jason put a true effort together for you to get this mask on his face.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It never comes off. I have never seen.

[Mike Wright]

Because we normally you're the mask.

[Andy Holloway]

Now we just have to hope they fit. You are the mask.

[Jason Moore]

Come on.

[Mike Wright]

We're going to have to get the scissors.

[Andy Holloway]

This is the end of the episode. Cut him out of the mask. Thank you for joining us. We appreciate you enjoy the games this week and I cannot wait.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

Smoking.

[Jason Moore]

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