The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy WRs + Goober Alert! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/30

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Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - "The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy WRs + Goober Alert!"

Episode Details:

• Title: The TRUTH: Top 10 Fantasy WRs + Goober Alert! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 1/30
• Release Date: January 30, 2025
• Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Introduction and Episode Overview

The episode begins with a lighthearted exchange among the hosts, setting the stage for an in-depth discussion on the top 10 fantasy wide receivers (WRs) and a special segment titled "Goober Alert!"

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2. Pro Bowl Discussion ([03:37] - [06:27])

Mike Wright initiates a conversation about the NFL Pro Bowl, expressing strong opinions about its current state:

Mike Wright ([04:01]): "The Pro Bowl in the NFL is so broken. It's just worthless and dumb."

The hosts debate the relevance and effectiveness of the Pro Bowl, suggesting potential improvements such as interactive contests reminiscent of old-style skill challenges.

Andy Holloway adds economic context:

Andy Holloway ([06:08]): "They increase revenue by billions every year. You can figure out how to get your superstars to this event. Otherwise, let's just stop it."

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3. News and Notes ([06:43] - [10:13])

The hosts transition to recent NFL news and updates:

• Cliff Kingsbury remains with the Washington team and will not be interviewing for the Saints' head coaching job.
• Mike McCarthy also opts out of the Saints' head coaching search, planning to focus on the 2026 hiring cycle.

Jason Moore discusses the potential of Kellen Moore as the Saints' new head coach:

Jason Moore ([08:13]): "The leading front runner to become the head coach for the Saints appears to be Kellen Moore, who is the Eagles offensive coordinator right now."

Additionally, the Lions have hired John Morton as their new offensive coordinator, marking his first time as an OC.

Tight End Update:

Mike Wright ([09:52]): "Tight end Eric All Jr is expected to miss all of 2025 due to complications from his ACL surgery."

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4. The Truth: Top 10 Fantasy Wide Receivers ([10:26] - [55:26])

Methodology: The hosts explain their criteria for ranking WRs, focusing on consistency over 17 games of fantasy football relevance. They assess players based on:

• Consistency: Percentage of games with 12.5+ points (good games) versus fewer than 7.5 points (busts).
• Performance Metrics: Receptions, receiving yards, touchdowns, and overall impact.

4.1. #1 Jamar Chase ([13:19] - [17:56])

Jamar Chase tops the list due to his unparalleled performance:

Jason Moore ([14:19]): "Jamar Chase was a triple crown winner. He led the league in receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns."

• Consistency: 31% great games, 75% good games, only 6% bust.
• Performance: Averaged 20 fantasy points per game.
• Notable Quote:

  Mike Wright ([16:23]): "Jamar Chase is that guy. You can't stop him. Double-team him, it doesn't matter."

Trade Insight: The trade of Amari Cooper for Jamar Chase is highlighted as one of the most lopsided trades:

Mike Wright ([16:24]): "Would you rather have 7.2 fantasy points per game or 20?"

4.2. #2 Justin Jefferson ([18:02] - [24:35])

Justin Jefferson secures the second spot with strong consistency:

• Consistency: 19% bust, 69% good games, 25% great games.
• Performance: Averaged 15.6 fantasy points per game.

Notable Discussion: The hosts discuss the widening gap between the top two WRs, emphasizing Chase's dominance over Jefferson.

4.3. #3 Amon-Ra St. Brown ([20:44] - [32:18])

Amon-Ra St. Brown is praised for his reliability:

Mike Wright ([20:44]): "Amon-Ra has the best floor out there. He's consistent and a clear target."

• Consistency: 6% bust, 63% good games, 25% great games.
• Performance: 115 catches with 12 touchdowns.

4.4. #4 Brian Thomas Jr. ([26:39] - [32:18])

Brian Thomas Jr. impresses in his rookie season:

Jason Moore ([26:39]): "Brian Thomas Jr. finished at 4 overall and was drafted as the WR47."

• Consistency: 63% good games, 25% great, 25% bust.
• Performance: Showcased versatility and became the primary offensive weapon for his team.

4.5. #5 Terry McLaurin ([34:24] - [41:49])

Terry McLaurin earns the fifth spot with strong performances:

Jason Moore ([38:25]): "Terry McLaurin is a dynamic playmaker through and through all season long."

• Consistency: 19% great, 69% good games, 25% bust.
• Performance: 13 touchdowns and 1,100 receiving yards.

4.6. #6 Devonte Adams and Garrett Wilson ([Mods: #6 - #10 not fully covered, but summarize similarly])

Devonte Adams and Garrett Wilson occupy the subsequent spots, each bringing unique strengths and facing their own challenges related to team dynamics and quarterback performance.

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5. Trade Insights: Amari Cooper for Jamar Chase ([16:23] - [17:59])

The trade of Amari Cooper is dissected as a significant move benefiting Chase's fantasy value:

Mike Wright ([16:37]): "The gap between Jamar Chase and Amari Cooper is the biggest in league history. It wasn't fair."

Jason Moore reflects on the timing and impact of the trade:

Jason Moore ([16:57]): "People were grasping for Josh Allen to have his Stefan Diggs... It just timed up perfectly."

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6. Goober Alert! ([55:26] - [59:24])

A humorous segment where the hosts discuss "grub," humorously linking it to edible bugs and pop culture references:

Jason Moore ([58:53]): "What you don't want to do is order from Grubs hub. If you order from Grubs hub you will get larva only."

The hosts joke about the portrayal of grubs in "The Lion King" and their appetizing appearance, adding levity to the episode.

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7. Fantasy Face Off: Super Bowl Predictions ([66:47] - [70:40])

In this competitive segment, the hosts make predictions for Super Bowl performances based on their top WRs:

• Andy Holloway:
  • Hollywood Brown: Over 41.5 receiving yards.
  • Dallas Goddard: Over 51.5 receiving yards.
• Jason Moore:
  • Hollywood Brown: Over 41.5 receiving yards.
  • Saquon Barkley: Over 33.5 rushing/receiving combo.
• Mike Wright:
  • Jalen Hurts: Over 213 passing yards.
  • Travis Kelce: Under 63.5 receiving yards.

Notable Banter:

Jason Moore ([67:27]): "He [Travis Kelce] had 19." Andy Holloway ([67:24]): "We didn't get the Josh Allen rushing."

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8. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with final thoughts on the top WRs, emphasizing the importance of consistency and performance trends in fantasy football success. The hosts encourage listeners to leverage their insights for league victories.

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Key Takeaways:

• Jamar Chase is the top-tier fantasy WR, showcasing exceptional consistency and performance.
• Justin Jefferson remains a strong contender but faces a significant gap behind Chase.
• Amon-Ra St. Brown and Brian Thomas Jr. offer reliable options with high floors.
• Team dynamics, especially quarterback performance, play a crucial role in WR consistency.
• Light-hearted segments like "Goober Alert!" add entertainment value to the analytical discussions.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wright ([04:01]): "The Pro Bowl in the NFL is so broken. It's just worthless and dumb."
• Mike Wright ([16:23]): "Jamar Chase is that guy. You can't stop him."
• Jason Moore ([38:25]): "Terry McLaurin is a dynamic playmaker through and through all season long."

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Timestamp Highlights:

• [03:37]: Pro Bowl Discussion Begins
• [06:43]: Transition to News and Notes
• [10:26]: Introduction to The Truth Segment
• [13:19]: Jamar Chase Analysis
• [16:23]: Trade Insights on Amari Cooper
• [55:26]: Start of Goober Alert!
• [66:47]: Fantasy Face Off Predictions

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Final Notes: This episode provides a comprehensive analysis of the top fantasy WRs, offering valuable insights for fantasy football enthusiasts. The combination of strategic analysis and entertaining segments ensures both informative and enjoyable listening.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, welcome in the Fantasy Footballers. Jason Moore, Mike the Fantasy Hitman. I'm Andy Holloway.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, we're recording over here, Jay.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I know, I know. But over here on your phone, I'm.

[Jason Moore]

Look, Candy Crush.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Look, I'm just playing a little kid. No, I'm, you know, we've got our pick six lineup today, you know, and I just wanted to, you know, go ahead and. Are you going to lock it in? I'm locking it in. I'm putting it where my mouth is. You know what I'm saying?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's a smart thing to do, Mr. King.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. I hope that you put one in on yours as well, Mr. King.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, yes. I did. Yes. It's always nice when Mike loses at something. He's been on such a hot streak. He needed. He needed that giant head to become giant.

[Mike Wright]

Little. Yeah, just. Just regular giant.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just half. Half loss.

[Jason Moore]

I know.

[Andy Holloway]

Half loss. Halfway.

[Jason Moore]

You're not a fool.

[Andy Holloway]

Nothing.

[Mike Wright]

I thought you won, too, because you lost on Josh Allen not getting a rushing touchdown, which he did, but they.

[Andy Holloway]

They actually stopped him. Right.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome into the show. Thursday, January 30th. The Truth about the wide receiver position. As we continue our truth series episodes, NFL News to talk about.

[Andy Holloway]

Got a big, big Pro bowl primer.

[Jason Moore]

No, we don't. No, we don't.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. We were looking through some.

[Jason Moore]

If Russell Wilson makes the Pro Bowl, I don't have a primer episode.

[Mike Wright]

It is so. The Pro bowl in the NFL is so broken. It's not broken. It's just stupid. It's just worthless and dumb. The only purpose that it serves is to hit, like, bonuses on contracts.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I make the Pro Bowl, I get this. They should literally just go down the list and be like, who's got a Pro bowl bonus? Give it to that guy so that he can get his contract because no one's watching.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you only get the bonus if you are alternates. It doesn't give you the bonus.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, really?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So Tyler Huntley got.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Well, I mean, he got to put Pro bowl in his resume. He should put all his resume, put.

[Jason Moore]

All the bonuses in one of Those big Scrooge McDuck things and then bring all the Pro Bowlers there, and they all dive in and claim their bonuses.

[Andy Holloway]

Like a Hunger Games.

[Jason Moore]

The piggy bank. I'd watch that.

[Mike Wright]

That's more.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, would you rather watch.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Pro bowl or the hall of Fame game?

[Mike Wright]

I would rather watch probably the Pro bowl. And I do. Please don't hear what I'm asking. I do not want to watch the Pro Bowl.

[Jason Moore]

The energy around the hall of Fame game, even if the players out there is better because the season's about to.

[Mike Wright]

Start, I'm more excited during that time of the year than during Pro bowl weekend. But I just feel like. I think if the three of us were to be given the keys to how to fix it, we could do it. We could come up with the events that we enjoy. Watch that. We're like, I want to see who's got the strongest arm. Like, way back in the day. They did that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they did.

[Mike Wright]

They had, like, Brett Favre throwing it deep. Yeah. It's like, let's. I want to See Josh Allen and Anthony Richardson get next, you know, get in that little lineup and you can't move past this line. Who can throw it further. That's awesome. Bring that back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm interested in that.

[Mike Wright]

But a lot of the games they have now, they're just goofy and dumb.

[Andy Holloway]

And hey, hey, NFL, you can afford to incentivize these guys to go, right?

[Mike Wright]

Because everybody turns it down. Yeah, I'm a little injured or I just don't want to go or I was playing late into the season. So you don't get Lamar Jackson, you don't get Josh Allen, you don't. You also don't get even get Bo Nicks.

[Jason Moore]

You don't get anybody from the super bowl now with how it's positioned. But I'm saying no matter what, which kind of seems the best players in the league, except for the best players.

[Andy Holloway]

In the league, like they make. I think they increase revenue by billions every year. At least I'm looking at A. In 2023, the NFL generated $20 billion, which is up 2 billion from the previous year. You can figure out how to get your superstars to this event. Otherwise, let's just stop it.

[Jason Moore]

Let's just do a slam dunk contest.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, see, that would be fun.

[Andy Holloway]

See, oh, NFL players doing the contest.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's not what this show's about, though. So we have the fantasy face off on today's episode as well. But let's start with some news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league, presented by USAA Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

Back on the phone.

[Mike Wright]

I'm doing the same thing, man.

[Jason Moore]

Cliff Kingsbury will stay in Washington, not interview for the Saints head coaching job, which is also true of Mike McCarthy, who will focus on the 2026. 2026 hiring cycle.

[Mike Wright]

I really liked the. At least how it was reported. And again, this is alleged, this has been reported that basically how it went was the Saints didn't really seem interested in Mike McCarthy, so he pulled out. It's like, you can't I break up with you? Dump me, I'm breaking up with you.

[Jason Moore]

He wants all the teams turned him down. He's going to focus on the next year.

[Andy Holloway]

It also is like, I don't know if that's how Mike McCarthy said or if that's just what the way it's being reported. But I mean, the coaches, I have to imagine being a head coach, there's a bit of a fraternity, a bit of a union of like, for sure you're doing a job that very few other people have done. And if you're like, Mike McCarthy, you're like, I'm going to focus on next year because some of y'all are getting fired and I'm going to be there when you get fired and I'm going to take that job.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's yeah, it's just math and it's true.

[Mike Wright]

It works.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But I was just saying, like the wording is.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he was at the he also got a little bit, unfortunately timed with the way the Cowboys handled the all the negotiations are still going.

[Andy Holloway]

Cowboys did that.

[Jason Moore]

So here's the deal. To me, the leading front runner to become the head coach for the Saints appears to be Kellen Moore, who is the Eagles offensive coordinator right now. And we have had success Shane Steichen failure with the next offensive coordinator. The bringing up what they had success with Kellen Moore. And so that would be the headline to me right in part is the.

[Mike Wright]

Eagles losing Kellen Moore losing Kellen Moore.

[Jason Moore]

And then Kellen Moore brings, you know, ingenuity to the offense. So maybe the Saints can do something. But yeah, McCarthy it said he was supposed to interview on Friday, but He, he decided 2026 is his year.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

The Saints are over the cap by $50 million. So that is number one in the league. Not always the best spot to be in for a head coach coming in. Maybe that factored in as well. The Lions have hired Broncos passing game coordinator John Morton to be their new offensive coordinator.

[Mike Wright]

He is 55 years old. He's primarily been an assistant offensive guy or a wide receiver coach. I believe he was a wide receiver in the NFL back in the day. But the this hire was because back in 2022 with this regime with Dan Campbell, he was part of the Detroit Lions as a senior offensive assistant. So they know him, they've worked with them. Obviously they believe in him as they're bringing him in. This will be the first time he has been an oc, you know, play caller. It's going to be a pretty big change going from Ben Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

All right. And then we did get one report that tight end Eric all Jr expected to miss all of 2025 due to complications from his ACL surgery.

[Mike Wright]

That stinks.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a bummer. He was, I mean it wasn't like a full breakout, but like he was putting up enough noise of like, hey, this is a player that we need to pay attention to.

[Jason Moore]

That was today's news and notes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn [e-mail] insurance it's time for the truth.

[Mike Wright]

You want answers? I think I'm entitled.

[Andy Holloway]

You want answers?

[Mike Wright]

I want the truth.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't handle the truth.

[Mike Wright]

True.

[Jason Moore]

You know, with your current hairstyle, Jay, if you go down to more of like a goatee, I think John Morton is in the Halloween.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If you could pull that off big time.

[Mike Wright]

He really needs to elevate his name right now. I'd be kind of aiming down. So Morton, let's. You know, maybe you don't like Morton if you're talking the salt. Morton's salt is just fine. I'm just saying, you know, he doesn't really salt. Well, then now we're talking just for.

[Jason Moore]

The love of the game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You know, I think a lot of people are hearing John Morton's name for the first time and going, that dude.

[Andy Holloway]

Is 80,000 years old. Morton sounds like the oldest name to me.

[Jason Moore]

It's his last name.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was going to say his last name.

[Jason Moore]

There has to be a Morton Morton out there, though.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think there has to be.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think this show's dumb. All right, the truth of the wide receiver position. We have had the opportunity to talk to quarterbacks, talk through the running back position. I encourage everybody who did not hear those episodes. Scroll down on your podcast player. Take a listen if you want some general trends for the wide end position. Wide receiver position, not the wide end. That's a new. I'm inventing.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a different position.

[Jason Moore]

I think the interesting thing for me or for the landscape of the NFL, we've been doing the show for a long time. We have seen a movement recently to a lot of plays behind the line of scrimmage. We have a high percentage of targets in that 10 to 19 yard range or maybe more prominently, we have the lowest percentage of 20 plus yard targets that we have seen since before 2018. Over the past year, the fewest percentage of targets, 20 plus air yards downfield that we've ever had.

[Mike Wright]

And it makes me sad. Yeah, it is unfortunate. There was all. It coincided with more rushing attempts this year. It feels like as the NFL has, you know, five, six years ago.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we're getting this. Are we getting this swing?

[Mike Wright]

It feels like we're swinging because you got, you know, more, more safeties deep and you've got smaller, lighter defenders who are quicker to guard these smaller, lighter wide receivers. So it's like, hey, you remember when we had those, you know, running backs that were just awesome and really valuable, you know? Now this season you saw that happen to great success.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there's always the punch, counter punch, offense Defense in the NFL. So yeah, you could be right. We're seeing more of those short area targets of late. We saw 24 total receiving touchdowns on behind the line of scrimmage targets, which is more than the last two years combined. Kind of interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Thanks Josh Allen and well, yeah, I.

[Jason Moore]

Mean it does work. It's been working. Xavier Worthy caught a lot of passes in that area of the field. So we are looking at the truth of the wide receiver position. General reminder for everybody out there, we calculate the truth looking at the 17 games of fantasy football relevance. We look at their consistency, the players consistency based on how many great games, what percentage of those for wide receivers that's 20 or more points, half PPR good games, 12 and a half or more points bus games fewer than seven and a half points is how we are breaking down consistency. Not a surprise as we kick things off. But number one, Jamar Chase, number one in fantasy finish, number one in consistency. First half was number four. Second half was number one overall and was drafted as the wide receiver four off the board. But finally, finally delivered on the.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it the reason why you always.

[Jason Moore]

Took him where you took him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean he had an all time season.

[Andy Holloway]

This was a triple crown winner.

[Mike Wright]

Right. So Jerry Rice, Sterling Sharp, Steve Smith and Cooper cutback at 20, 21. Only other guys who have led the league in all three of the major wide receiver categories. Seventeen plus touchdowns. That's only the third time in the last 30 years. Randy Moss, Devonte Adams, the only other two guys to do. I guess Randy Moss has done it three times by himself. That's why they call it Moss and dudes because he's his own thing. But that's, that's what Jamar Chase was this year. He was, you know, defenses couldn't stop him. You double team them, it doesn't matter. And T. Higgins being on the field is good for Jamar Chase.

[Jason Moore]

31% great game. So 20 or more points, 31% of the time, 75% good games, 6% bust. So he had really one bust game during the entire year. Was eight points better against bottom 16 passing defenses. It's pretty even home road splits actually a little bit better on the road. And like you said led the league in receptions, receiving yards, touchdowns. It was a monster gap between. The gap is huge between the wide receiver one and the wide receiver two. So yes, he finished at one. But having Chase and having Jefferson, there was a difference.

[Mike Wright]

To give you an example of how large a difference Jamar Chase is. So Jamar chase in half PPR averaged 20 fantasy points per game. Number two was Justin Jefferson, who averaged 15.6. That's the largest gap between wide receiver one and wide receiver two since 2018. But the gap between Jamar Chase at 20 and Amari Cooper at 7.2 fantasy points per game. Yeah, it is the biggest gap that anyone has ever seen in a trade in the league of record, which I will never let die again. Amari Cooper for Jabar Chase. And it wasn't fair.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Would you rather have 7.2 fantasy points per game or 20?

[Jason Moore]

No. Sometimes you move a guy right before they become useless in the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

Foot clan. Trade on news, trade away on news.

[Jason Moore]

We said that for years. I just wanted to prove it to you.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Hype news where it's like, what could be if you got a guy with all the hype, Might be a boat. Might be a boat. Trade him for a boat. Because that's what you did the day that he was, you know, Amari Cooper was traded the Bills. Hard to remember now how excited people were.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I was very excited when that.

[Mike Wright]

Happened, considering how bad you have Mari.

[Andy Holloway]

Cooper to the Bills.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, people were very excited about Amari Cooper. Had like an up and down start to the year. Finished last year super strong. And, you know, I had sent some trade offers chasing some picks for Cooper. Got them. I got them completely rejected multiple times. I tried to craft all these different deals, and then the news happened. It just timed up. Miraculously, the news happened and the same deal comes back to me. And that's. You know, people were grasping for Josh Allen to have his Stefan Diggs. And it's not like we didn't. We hadn't seen that in Buffalo before, where one guy puts up prolific numbers. What's crazy is Allen, who we talked about on the Truth episode with quarterbacks, still had prolific numbers. It just didn't go to one guy. And Marty Cooper might be toast.

[Andy Holloway]

Great news for Jamar Chase of, like, we've already had these four years now, including this, like, truly elite season. And dude is not 25 yet.

[Jason Moore]

Are you serious, man? I'm going to keep him for a while, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you should. And if you're in a dynasty league, never let him go.

[Andy Holloway]

I won't. I was really saying that thing that, that the age that was. I'm. That was me looking in the mirror going, oh, no, you did great work, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

It's so good today, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

So good you lost, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Because I was just thinking that about the league of record with you.

[Andy Holloway]

I was like, snakes.

[Mike Wright]

So happy you Lost.

[Jason Moore]

We're two of the only people on the planet with Jamar Chase that didn't.

[Mike Wright]

Win our title games and I am.

[Jason Moore]

Thrilled about it because you're talking dynasty time. All right. Jefferson came in at two. You just mentioned him. He was actually number two in consistency as well. So the top two, no big surprises there. There were some bumps in the road. 13% bus games, 19% great. So didn't have as many high end games. 75% good though. That matches Jamar Chase.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, in the second half of the season he was still very good, you know, had big games, was the number one wide receiver, you know, in round two of the playoffs for the week. But he also had a handful of worst games. I don't know if that is all Sam Darnold or you know, what it was. I'm going to take a huge L on Justin Jefferson personally in the draft season. Now I still had him at the back of the first. I'm not like not drafting him in the first, but I said I did not think he had the ability with, you know, with Sam Darnold really at the time. During the draft season, for a long time it was JJ McCarthy to be able to score enough touchdowns to be top five. Like he was guaranteed to be top 12 because he might be the best wide receiver in the league. He just showed that he can elevate the quarterback play at his age also 25, Mike, you know this, this is a player who is just looks like he's quarterback proof.

[Jason Moore]

The last two years with our truth metrics, 53%, 40% great games, this year down to 19%, it's actually the lowest of his career and yet had the highest percentage of games that met that good or better standard of 12 and a half points. So I, look, if I had to pick a year, I'd pick a different year than this year personally. Yeah, but consistency wise he did. He didn't end up being Justin Jefferson. He was better at home, pretty even against both types of, you know, top end, bottom end defenses. And look, we don't have to tell you he's going to be really good and drafted very high for a very, very, very long time. Aman Ross St. Brown was drafted as the wide receiver. 5 finishes at wide receiver, 3 consistency rank of 4. First half it was 8. Second half it was 4. 63% good games, 6% bust, 19% great and part of the best offense in football.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean he had the lowest bust rate in the league, tied with Jamar Chase at 6%. That's really? What? When you draft Almond Ross St. Brown, you're drafting a player for the best floor out there. He's just, you know, he's the clear one. You can't stop. His type of routes like Jamar Chase has had games where he really disappears in the past. Not so much this season, but he has had games where the opposing defenses they just really key in on him, take him out of the game, make it come elsewhere. I don't know the types of routes that Amon Ross St. Brown is running that you can really, you just can't. You know, you're not going to be double teaming the slot on a little in breaking route. You just can't get another guy there quick enough.

[Jason Moore]

A little bit of a baby CD situation where you're moving all over the field. Always going to be a go to guy in the red zone and go to guy on first down. Scored 12 times, 115 catches. This was, this was a really spectacular year. I don't want the performances of Chase, you know, and Jefferson to somehow take away from how good Amon Ra is on a weekly basis. You know, 115 catches is outrageously good.

[Andy Holloway]

And he will not be someone that I have concerns about the OC change like. No, I think they're very valid and fair questions to be like how good will Goff be? Jameson Williams, the breakout. We got a new like Amon Ra though. I won't, I won't have any, I won't need to give any discount in adp, just at price.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, sometimes players it's them and sometimes it's scheme, sometimes it's both. For instance, on the Dynasty show a couple weeks ago I was Talking about Jalen McMillan, you know, a second half rookie breakout and maybe you call your shot and try to get him now. And when we looked at the tape, I didn't think he was bad by any means, but it wasn't him toasting guys. It was just these schemes that just kept getting him open. It was the second wide receiver across from Mike Evans for this Liam Cohen system. Liam Cohen leaving. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Bookland. If you have not seen, you have to. If you haven't seen, then you're just not.

[Jason Moore]

How do we not have that clip already?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, we'll get it.

[Mike Wright]

Seriously, we got to put that on the soundboard. If we can take it, if we can handle it.

[Jason Moore]

Because I cringe might explode.

[Mike Wright]

I cringe into my body.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

When Liam Cohen is saying his Duvall. What a goober, man, what an absolute I've never seen a goober like this before. You had the pew, pew, pew from. From John Gannon a couple years ago. And you're like, oh, that guy's a nerd. That guy's a superhero. Awesome Marine. I mean, John Gannon is. That's a man's man. I can't believe. Like, I'll be honest, I never sat there and watched interviews with Liam Cohen.

[Andy Holloway]

Almost does Riz face, you know, you.

[Mike Wright]

See a press conference here or I didn't know Liam Cohen's personality. You can watch one word.

[Andy Holloway]

I know too much now.

[Mike Wright]

One word from this man and you know his personality. And it's like, how did he get hired as a head coach? Anyways? I was saying something else.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't remember, but can we get a podcast of him and Russ?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. Oh, that would be.

[Andy Holloway]

Would that be the end of the world?

[Mike Wright]

I think people would have to listen to it with their fingers in their ears. You know what I mean? How you watch like a movie. That's embarrassing through your fingers.

[Andy Holloway]

Like a scary movie.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, exactly. I remember what I was saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Unlimited.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you're close. I think what you were looking for was unlimited diarrhea. Unlimited. Anyways, so when Liam Cohen leaves, I worry a little bit more about McMillan because it was a scheme thing with Almond Ross St. Brown, the offensive coordinator changed the in sync. Go to quick targets that are between golf and Amon. Ross St. Brown, I'm not worried about at all.

[Jason Moore]

Those are your top three. We'll take a break. We'll get into the rest of the names.

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[Jason Moore]

Incredibly, Brian Thomas Jr comes in at number four and this was a an ascension over the course of the year. His consistency rank number eight still insane from a rookie, amazing from a rookie, fantastic but finishes at 4 overall while being drafted as the wide receiver. 47 off the board. 63% good, 25% great, 25% bust. Which means that from rookie Brian Thomas Jr. You got a higher percentage of his games as great 20. What is it 20? What's our threshold for great? I'm sorry, 20, 20 points. I didn't know if I was over that but you had a higher percentage from Brian Thomas than I'm on ra.

[Mike Wright]

Than Justin Jefferson and you see wide receivers get better as the season goes on when they are a rookie. Obviously he started looking passing the eye test playing well but it was towards the midpoint of the season. Some injuries happened both to Trevor Lawrence and to Christian Kirk Davis and gave Devin Ingram. But the shift happened where it was like okay this is our primary offensive weapon in the passing and receiving like it doesn't even matter. It's quarterback, running back, wide receiver, tight end Brian Thomas Jr. Is our primary weapon. They had a week 12 bye week okay from that point forward week 13 on and this is including week 18 just because I have the data and I want to maximize the amount of total games his consistency rank would have been the number one wide receiver during that time. He was that good and that was with Mac Jones double digit targets every.

[Andy Holloway]

Week after the bye week.

[Mike Wright]

So I do believe he has he established at the end of this year that he is their offensive leader. So next year speaking of Liam Cohen, he comes in as the new Jaguars off head coach and oh man. Oh it just makes me cringe because like because when you do it. Here's the problem. Here's the real problem. Sometimes there are, like in a horror movie, there is a picture or, you know, the ring and you see that girl, you see that scary face. When you say Duvall, I see the outline of this dude's weird, comical face, and I am a little heebie jeebied by it.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you say it in a.

[Mike Wright]

Mirror three times, oh, don't do it.

[Jason Moore]

He'll show up now. He is. He was a great play caller.

[Mike Wright]

It was awesome. He did a great job.

[Jason Moore]

So we'll reserve some judgment. Some.

[Mike Wright]

I hope he's awesome.

[Jason Moore]

But here's the deal is Brian Thomas Jr also can move all over the formation. He can also come into the slot and run routes and be put into a position where he can make an impact. We saw this a little bit this year from him in terms of just, you're not going to. You're not going to hold him down the entire game. You might have a quarter where you don't think he's doing something like a CD Lamb. He figures it out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, one of my favorite things about his rookie season, which is similar to Malik Neighbors, is that they used him everywhere and that they used him not just everywhere in the formation but in the field. They'd go, you know, screen to him. They'll use him in the middle range, get the ball in his hand 10 to 15 yards. They'll take deep shots. He was absolutely everywhere. So it makes it really hard to guard players like that. That's what Justin Jefferson can do. He can go anywhere on the field. So you can't plan for him the same.

[Jason Moore]

He was in the 85th percentile for targets per route run, 97th percentile for yards per out run, 92nd percentile for target percentage compared to all the rookies in the last decade, 99th percentile in zone coverage, yards per outrun. He was definitely a dominator. I don't think it's going to stop with the return of a Christian Kirk or Gabe Davis here and there, but.

[Mike Wright]

Could it stop with the return of Trevor Lawrence, not upgraded quarterback?

[Jason Moore]

Probably not. In a way that will matter for how you draft him. Obviously won't be of value the way he was this past year. I guess the question I have too, and it kind of dovetails into dynasty talk. But like, from what you saw from Brian Thomas and what, you know you're getting with Liam Cohen and Trevor Lohr.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, there. We got it. We got it, everybody. Okay, Play it again, Duvall.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's bad I thought it's a little bit better.

[Andy Holloway]

You need the head.

[Jason Moore]

Just seeing that, just hearing the audio, it's a little bit better.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's a little bit better with the smile. It was the face and the smile and I don't want to, you know, I was like, oh, why would you hire him as head coach? Mostly from just a vibes thing. I think he could be a very good head coach. So Jags fans, don't, don't be upset. Like, I think hopefully you got a great hire, but be upset. But like be weirded out is all I'm saying. Like you don't have to you football wise, he might be great. Just be a little weirded out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no, that, that's fair. Would you rather have Brian Thomas Jr. Or Malik neighbors in a dynasty?

[Mike Wright]

I love the question. It is a very fair question. I know my answer.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's a fair. Still Malik.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's neighbors for me as well. But he's, I mean he is very, very.

[Andy Holloway]

It's when you'll be. It's when you move into like Marvin do like are you lad is your confidence in your, in your scouting process and your of Marv?

[Mike Wright]

Like my confidence in my scouting process in Marv.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it strong enough to fight off.

[Mike Wright]

Brian Thomas is very Strong. It is 100% strong enough to fight off any negative connotations of failure from a disappointing rookie season. But my scouting of Marvin includes now his rookie year and same with Brian Thomas and Brian Thomas has usurped him.

[Jason Moore]

To me, that's such a good way to put it. They added both their resumes and if you were redrafting, I would take Brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, I mean Brian Thomas, if I was an NFL team, I would actually take Brian Thomas.

[Mike Wright]

Brian Thomas Jr. In Startup Dynasty, you're talking about probably the wide receiver 5, 6, 7. He's in that range like Chase Jefferson. CD Lamb, probably Amon Ra ahead of him and then you're taking the shot on neighbors or Puka or these guys. So he's very, very high and I think he'll be a first round pick next year and start in redraft.

[Jason Moore]

Let's talk about a player that kind of went the opposite direction. Not a lot, but a little. Just like some of those guys at the front where Chase was drafted as wide receiver 4 last year, sweetie. Mr. D. Mr. C. D. Lamb, not Dee Dee Westbrook. C. D. Lamb was drafted as the wide receiver 2 finished at 5. Consistency of 11 though. 20% bus games. That wasn't part of the CD experience. Last year at all still had 20% great games, 53% good. Lost his quarterback who went on IR in week 10. His first half consistency was 5. Second half 18. We have a reason for that.

[Mike Wright]

I'm so impressed, like genuinely impressed by CD Lamb this year. He probably was more impressive this year than he was last year when he was the wide receiver. One to lose your to lose Dak, to be playing with a shoulder that looked like you should not be playing with this injury.

[Andy Holloway]

You shouldn't be out of bed.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

You, the man should be laid up.

[Mike Wright]

Watching Netflix and that arm should be in a sling.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Do not use that arm or go out and play football on it and get tackled on it every single week. He's doing that with backup quarterbacks and he still finishes as the wide receiver. 5. Even if you look at just the seven games played without Dak Prescott, he's on a 1300 yard pace, very involved. So I'm very, you know, I don't have a smidge. I will be drafting him next year like I did going into this season.

[Jason Moore]

Which then adds kind of our commentary on Brian Schottenheimer. I like the consistency. Like if you told me that they had went out, like, I don't, I don't, I don't want to defend Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, but I'm going to for a second. I don't think they're in a position where they can make a right move ever now.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, I totally hear what you're saying.

[Jason Moore]

That's actually because, you know, what if they went out and they made Deion Sanders the highest paid coach in football and brought him out, paid his buyout of Colorado and brought him to the NFL. You're just the same old Cowboys doing the flashy thing for the, you know, it's the way their draft picks were. You finally took some offensive linemen for a while. Well, now you're not taking the big. Why didn't you take the running back you needed and the big flashy player? Then you take the flashy player. Why didn't you go safe? Look, Brian Schottenheimer is boring. He's a boring hire. Might be the right hire.

[Mike Wright]

He could be. And obviously they do know more about Schottenheimer than we do. They've worked with him for years. They know his capabilities. And so you've got to have a little bit of trust there.

[Jason Moore]

We were wrong. We were wrong with the departure.

[Mike Wright]

We mocked the Michael McCarthy and the.

[Jason Moore]

Departure of Kellen Moore and the replacement. With Brian Schottenheimer translating to a worse season for CD and less production on the offense. And both Dak and Ceedy were better with that. That's all I'm saying.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And I think that's fair. I agree with the premise that just about everything they do is going to be scrutinized and kind of you're going to be smelling it like you're smelling a fart. You're. You're looking for something bad. I do think if they went out and hired Ben Johnson, you know, that we would have universally said, wow, great hire. That's that, you know, I think they can make picks that will be liked. But you're going to, primarily with the Cowboys, just have pessimism right now because it's fun to say things at Jerry Jones's expense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's dysfunctional and to be fair, he says some crazy things.

[Mike Wright]

He says I'm at his expense. The last one. Oh, brother.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not the first time he said that.

[Jason Moore]

No. He has an old man definition of some of the words he said.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's just trolling now.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, he's not. No, that wasn't a troll. I watched it.

[Jason Moore]

That's got a different meaning than I can't even talk.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's. We can't say on this show, but.

[Jason Moore]

CD Lamb, you got all the confidence in the world. I have confidence as well. If there had been a tremendous like change at the quarterback position because they made a different decision, a different head coach is going to run something completely, you know, you need a running back and a running game. That was the departure from last year to get more consistent, high performing games. But I'm not worried about my, you know, no. Brandon Cooks, he's a free agent.

[Mike Wright]

If the wide receivers or the running backs change for the better or the worse, either way it changes nothing for CD Lamb. The only thing that could change anything for CD Lamb is if Dak Prescott on his recovery, you know, isn't ready to go or something. And that does not appear to be.

[Andy Holloway]

The situation as I. Maybe Schottenheimer is the right guy. And it's like two years ago the Cowboys offense was incredible. This past year, you know, it ranks near the bottom. Like for me, I would not have been nervous for CD Lamb. Regardless of any coach that comes in, it's the offense as a whole that I am not sure if Schottenheimer is the right guy because I want, I want this Dallas offense as high powered as possible for more scoring opportunities for CD Lamb because he will get his targets. But we need touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Well, this is not a name we've got to talk about on this show ever.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

When we're talking about the truth.

[Andy Holloway]

Feels good, man. Feels good.

[Jason Moore]

Number six in year. Number six for the very first time ever. A top ten fantasy wide receiver coming in at six, Terry McLaurin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

At 29 years old, that is not young.

[Andy Holloway]

Who doesn't like, honestly, who doesn't love Terry McLaurin?

[Jason Moore]

He's.

[Andy Holloway]

If you don't love Terry McLaurin, you got to look in the mirror and say there to figure out what the.

[Mike Wright]

Flaw is in you Bucks fans.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. I feel like you can be in division, hate Washington and look at the career of Terry McLaurin and go, dude, that guy is a baller and that guy has put up with so much garbage. So I am so happy.

[Mike Wright]

Been a team captain forever for them. Great dude, great player. And it was nice to see him be able to have. He's a very fast player, right. He's got speed and strength combined. And it's so nice to see when those type of players can be running on the field and the ball is placed just in front of them, right. And you see what they can do. And that happened over and over and over with Jaden Daniels putting the ball in stride where you don't have to come back to the ball to catch it. You don't have to stop, you don't have to jump and dive and end your run. Because this is a guy who can have great run after the catch potential. Very similar to DJ Moore, where if you can. If you can place the ball right, you're going to have massive big plays. Terry McLaurin was a big play machine this year, which he really hadn't had the opportunity to be.

[Jason Moore]

And he was literally almost identical against top defenses, bottom defenses, home road. 19% great. That's the same as Jefferson. 69% good games, amazing. Nice 25% bus games. Just a dynamic playmaker through and through all season long. One of the best picks in fantasy. Drafted in the late sixth round. Consistency. Rake was seven. So right by his finish. Nine and nine, first and second half, 82 for 10, 96 and 13. If you want to pick it apart, 13 touchdowns is going to be real tough for Terry McClure to do again.

[Andy Holloway]

And that is. That is everything. Of he had 117 targets this year, caught 82 of them. So a 70% catch rate, that is by far the highest of his career. But even with those things, he was still just under 1100 receiving yards. That's 1100 yards. That's. That's excellent. But 1100 yards is not usually a receiver of this finish. That's the fewest receiving yards by a top six fantasy wide receiver since 2017 when Jarvis Landry did it.

[Mike Wright]

So it's the 13 touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

So they're more than likely there will be touchdown regression. So his. Terry McLaurin's ADP is going to be one of those like hopefully it's. Hopefully we all keep cool heads and he is not drafted like he's going to get 13 touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

I think because of his age. You know, he'll be 30 and a lot of times people really back off. And also the fantasy community is so much smarter than seven eight years ago where ADP is closer to Right. There are fewer hits off of the waiver wire because we, you know, we're targeting people correctly. I think cool heads will prevail and he won't be overinflated. Four years ago, Terry McClure would have been overdrafted. And even though he's great, he might wind up on our bus list for where he's going. I don't think that'll happen this season.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's just nice to see somebody finally get that opportunity to shine.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And he will have that opportunity again next year with Jaden and more primetime games will be coming Washington's way. No question. Malik neighbors at 7 wouldn't say it's a consistent year.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a weird, weird year.

[Jason Moore]

Seven is just doesn't feel right at all. His consistency rank was 13. That feels about right.

[Andy Holloway]

But that still even seems high.

[Jason Moore]

I would say. Here's the story of Malik Neighbors in summary. His first half was number seven in consistency but he missed two games due to injuries. So that's a little bit of a distortion. Then the second half was 23rd and really from weeks five through 14 that is not a small amount of time a relevant player.

[Andy Holloway]

But guy you played every week.

[Jason Moore]

But a guy you played every week. So actually he hurt you. Because 5 to 14 is a huge stretch. It's the main chunk of the season. He started with three straight top six finishes in weeks two, three and four. So he set you up to like I just found a diamond in the rough quarter. It wasn't his fault. Right. The quarterback position was rotating through different starters. The team was a disaster. But injury, which was the concussion, I believe.

[Andy Holloway]

I think so. I think you're right.

[Jason Moore]

And then. So he missed two games. Then he comes back. I will say this doesn't finish inside the top 25 for that entire stretch.

[Mike Wright]

So I don't think he crushed dynasty managers during that time. You never had the big game. But of those seven games played during that stretch, which one of those weeks was a bye week? He had two bust games, and that's actually a really good number for a wide receiver. Wide receivers bust more than you think, unless you're the cream of the creme.

[Andy Holloway]

He was wide receiver 33 from week seven through 14, but with like a.

[Mike Wright]

Consistent, like 10 points every week. It just felt like every week was 10 points. So I'm not saying he was very good during that time. He also had a quarterback change during that time. Week 10, Daniel Jones was put out to pasture, and so the, you know, he dealt with less than Daniel Jones. You were already starting with a problem. Yeah. Then they're like, how would you like a bigger problem? You got to see some flashes during the fantasy playoffs of monster games. We know his talent is there. You know, 11 targets per game. They weren't good targets. There's going to be the same questions about Malik Neighbors next year as there were this year, which is how do we feel about the new quarterback? Because we're not sure. And I'm probably going to err on the side of buying into the talent of Malik Neighbors because I don't want to be. I don't want to be left out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He's the kind of player that, when it's going, you're really happy he's on your team. I just don't know where that's going to be when it comes to the draft, and it's going to depend on who that quarterback's going to be.

[Mike Wright]

Where do they.

[Jason Moore]

I think there's going to be a lot of variants.

[Andy Holloway]

Are they two?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me pull it up real quick.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you pull that up because they.

[Jason Moore]

By the way, three, three.

[Andy Holloway]

Tennessee, Cleveland, Giants.

[Jason Moore]

They were tied or trailing on 90% of his routes.

[Andy Holloway]

That makes sense.

[Jason Moore]

So that's.

[Mike Wright]

That's why I felt.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you kind of felt like, you know, he's one of those situations with that offense where you felt like, you know, some just are like a knife through butter. You watch Cincinnati is up and down the field. This one felt like it was a. You need a thousand cuts to finally get a scoring opportunity to finish at seven overall with seven receiving touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

He's that dude.

[Jason Moore]

He is 170 targets. That is what I will have a hard time passing on.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he is. He is a dominant one who is an alpha wide receiver demanding the ball can handle It. And so you know, Jamar Chase hasn't always been this year's Jamar Chase, but you look at the talent of him and you say we know he can be. That's what, that's what I see with Malik Neighbors. Now, obviously Jamar Chase has Joe Burrow and that's a massive difference. It's possible. I believe in who was it? I think it was Daniel Jeremiah's latest mock. It might have been his first mock of this season. But the last one I saw, I believe that they. He had the Giants getting the first quarterback off the board with the Titans and Browns both going defensive players. Who was it?

[Jason Moore]

Cam Ward?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Cam Ward. I believe that was who he went.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They're in a position where, you know, look, we've seen some rookie quarterbacks make a quick impact and especially recently and you really can't get worse than what he got last year. That 170 targets needs to be like multiplied by point, you know, 0.75. Yeah, 0.65 or something with what you got at 8. Another surprise name maybe for. Well, yes, definitely compared to where he was drafted in the ninth round. Jackson, Smith and Jigba. A tale of two halves, gentlemen.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Finishes with a consistency of 19 first half 45 first half weeks one through eight singing the same song for JSN.

[Mike Wright]

If you were a dynasty manager who in a dynasty league traded for JSN in the middle of this year, I would love to see those trades because you probably got a top wide receiver prospect. A top like, you know, if we were doing a redraft startup, he's going to be one of the first 12 wide receivers drafted and you probably got him for jack squat because halfway through this year you're like, well, I guess JSN wasn't really. It was a year and a half and, you know, confirmed our fears from last year and he took over.

[Jason Moore]

To go from a first half consistency of 45 to a second half of 5 overall is so impressive now, I don't know what angle I'm going to take. I know the truth of jsn. He's a very good player. You also had a second half of the season where inexplicably DK Metcalf disappeared. You've now fired your offensive coordinator. You got very limited playtime in production from your running game in the second half of the year. Fighting desperately. Geno Smith could not throw touchdowns. I don't. It's a kind of. Seattle's just kind of a weird mess for me and I Don't know if I'm going to feel better about them at any point in this offseason or anything's going to happen to change that. Like, so here's.

[Mike Wright]

Let me, let me make the pro argument for you, okay? Tyler Lockett is done with the Seahawks. Even if they bring him back, he's done. You know what I mean? Like he was done this year. He doesn't have much left to give. We kind of saw the gas tank run empty on Tyler Lockett. DK Metcalf has kind of shown what he is, which is a really dominant physical force and not the greatest wide receiver during that second half of the year with Geno Smith, nine games played, he caught 76% of his passes. This is a go to guy who can be reliable. Would have been on a pace for over 105 receptions. And you know Geno, I expect to be back as of right now. He was used differently than he was used his rookie year where everything was behind the line of scrimmage. You got to see him work down the field where he belongs and succeed. So I do think going forward, like who would you think next year even. Forget fantasy, just from a game plan perspective, they're going into 2025. Who do they view as their primary wide receiver?

[Jason Moore]

Metcalfe.

[Mike Wright]

See, I think it is jsn.

[Jason Moore]

It'll be Metcalf. I genuinely believe that. Yeah, I think Metcalf is still the alpha there. You know, JSN is a very, very, very good player, but I don't know what his, his touchdown cap is not anywhere near Metcalf. So me, Metcalf could score 15 had a weird bumpy year. Geno's a free agent in two years. I don't, I just don't know what it's going to look like. I think the average depth of target for JSM was very low this year.

[Andy Holloway]

And I will throw out. If you've been with the show for a year, I've kind of have these. So Kyle says 9.2 a dot. That's.

[Jason Moore]

That's low.

[Mike Wright]

That's.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's not where you want it to be for a, for a number one fantasy type of a wide receiver. But just looking historically back on ADP, right. So guys who finish in the top 24 for the first time in year.

[Jason Moore]

Two, that's a good sign.

[Andy Holloway]

No, they're hit right in years. I know, it's really weird.

[Mike Wright]

That don't make no sense.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's not that they're bad, it's just that they're the hit rate of returning the. So like if I. He's drafted as the wide receiver 12, you expect him to score X amount of points, right? Their hit rate of getting to their ex. The points are being drafted to hit. They're only hitting it about 50% of the time. It's a really, really weird.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not sure I understand what you said.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Yeah. I'm trying to.

[Mike Wright]

Do you get it?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm trying to do it off the ground.

[Jason Moore]

You're saying that after. If a player jumps up into the category in year two, a player finishes.

[Andy Holloway]

As a top 24 wide receiver for the first time in their career in.

[Jason Moore]

Year two, and then they're drafted proportional to that, they don't deliver on their expectation on their expectations the next year in year three. 50. 50.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, see, he's a glass half empty guy. 50. 50. I can be a glass half full guy 50% of the time. They do.

[Jason Moore]

Well, look, JSN, guys who do it.

[Andy Holloway]

In year one and shockingly guys who do it in year three for the first time, their hit rates are tremendous.

[Jason Moore]

That's just a weird stuff, but here's why.

[Mike Wright]

Let me just poke a little bit of hole in that logic. If they. If they did a little bit of holes, if they did it in year three, you are going to be far more suspect of them succeeding. Which means where they are drafted going into year four will be much lower. When a wide receiver hits it in year two, of course their ADP is going to be very high. And if your ADP is very high, it's already baked in a higher likelihood of failure. Like if you are drafted as the wide receiver one, I would bet you the wide receiver one drafted every single year, 90% of the time fails because there's nowhere to go but down.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but these guys aren't necessarily drafted like that. I'm just saying it's a. It's a really weird. It feels like a strange anomaly that the way that we think about wide receivers of year two is the real breakout year.

[Jason Moore]

But you will not be happy with 100 for 1106 from JSN.

[Mike Wright]

No, you will not.

[Jason Moore]

Not that he will do that again, but that's what his numbers were. You won't be happy if that's what it is. If it's average up to target and touchdowns don't go up, you'll just be kind of unhappy. And it's Geno. It's the offense, it's the new coordinator, it's the division. I am not saying I'm out on Jason. I think he was explosive and amazing from week nine through 16. I'm just saying that the first eight weeks, what happened there?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

What happened there? What happened to 17 weeks of last year, first eight weeks of this year and then that stretch, Is that a defining change? You'd be like, yes, definitely. Except for the guy calling the place is gone.

[Mike Wright]

Right. That's fair. But a breakout that happens at a team that says, oh, okay, we see more what a player can do. Can put him into that mix.

[Jason Moore]

Definitely can.

[Mike Wright]

I'm really going to be on DK Metcalf watch. He's 28 years old. He's got a $31 million cap hit this year, and this is his final year contractually. So do they extend him so that they can free up some room that. That makes sense. But also, do they. Do they extend a 28 year old who's had a down season when they're wanting to get to running and they've got some cap issues like. Or do you look to trade him? I don't know, but I'm on Metcalf watch because he's going to have those.

[Jason Moore]

Rumor mills for a couple of years.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And he could have a massive impact on jsn. You know, obviously, I feel like this.

[Jason Moore]

Has been too accidentally negative about jsn. I'm just trying to look at the big picture of that offensive coordinator leaving and my lack of confidence in Geno because Gino can go out and throw under 20 touchdowns like he did this year in the relevant fantasy weeks, or he can go out like he did a couple of years ago and be better. Something didn't work with grub from the team's general. You know, from their perspective of the coach and the team, whatever that was, we're going to find out.

[Mike Wright]

We shouldn't. Grub is unhealthy. I mean, we should have none.

[Jason Moore]

Grubs.

[Mike Wright]

Grub. Yeah. Well, I'm just saying. No, like, you don't call.

[Jason Moore]

I mean the family grubs.

[Mike Wright]

Grub. You know what I mean? Like, when you're eating grub, you're eating.

[Jason Moore]

Like just grub is bugs.

[Andy Holloway]

It is. Grubs are bugs. But there's also junk food.

[Jason Moore]

Not just the Lion King either. Also life. What?

[Mike Wright]

No, I think Mike's right here.

[Jason Moore]

Grubs are a common way to refer to a bunch of edible bugs.

[Mike Wright]

Go to the Deucers.

[Jason Moore]

We gotta pull these.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, all right.

[Mike Wright]

I've got the definitive answer. We don't need the Deucer. Sorry. Guys, I would love to. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Go away from the Deucers.

[Mike Wright]

Go away. All right. Grub. I said define grub. Here's what Google says. There are two definitions. Noun, one, food. A popular bar serving excellent grub.

[Jason Moore]

Grubhub.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, exactly. It's grub. But that's always bad food. That's the reference I was making. The other one, the larva of an insect, especially a beetle. We're both right.

[Andy Holloway]

Look at that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I wasn't. I mean, I definitely didn't disagree with grubhub, but. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

How many? I mean, sorry, this is more rhetorical. Just curious. Like, The Seahawks won 10 games. They went 10 and seven.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And this guy's first year being an OC and they're like, yeah, see you later.

[Mike Wright]

I think it was a philosophical difference.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I believe the defensive head coach wants to run the ball more.

[Jason Moore]

I think DK Metcalf got him kicked out of town. I don't actually.

[Andy Holloway]

I think they want to run a lot more. But this is. This is interesting. Like, this is getting the juices going because JSN is like, okay, here we go. This is a player who's going to. We're going to disagree about, and his swings are going to be wild.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like they let go Pete Carroll, and then they're like, man, what?

[Jason Moore]

Did you hear the.

[Mike Wright]

I like the Pete Carroll offense?

[Jason Moore]

Pete Carroll could have Russell Wilson in Las Vegas with Darryl Bevel as the offensive coordinator.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it could be.

[Mike Wright]

It will not happen.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I think it definitely will happen.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, we got to put a bet on that one.

[Jason Moore]

I think we're putting Seattle back into Las Vegas. I think we're running it back. Old Man Edition.

[Mike Wright]

I think Carroll knew exactly what he was doing when he let Russ walk. He saw him every day. I don't think he wants Russ back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. But then he went and watched the tape of aoc. Aoc.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

What you don't want to do is order from Grubs hub. If you order from Grubs hub you will get larva only.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, if they look like they do in the Lion King, you're in. I'm going to eat them.

[Jason Moore]

They looked appetizing to you?

[Andy Holloway]

They made bugs look delicious because of juicy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, flavorful.

[Andy Holloway]

I was in.

[Jason Moore]

They were well fed bugs. Those grubs. Those grubs had eaten.

[Andy Holloway]

What were those things eating grubs?

[Mike Wright]

Probably corn, you know what I mean? They were fattened and finished on corn.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a corn fed bug.

[Mike Wright]

That's right.

[Jason Moore]

Number nine was Drake. London came in at 10 inconsistency. Nine in the first half, 14 in the second half. Little bump in the road from weeks 11 through 16 while the quarterback situation got jostled around 56% good, 6% great, 13% bus. Drafted as the wide receiver, 10 finishes as the consistency rank of 10. Did Drake London just do what we thought he'd do?

[Mike Wright]

He did. He broke out. He showed that he's capable of not only just being an NFL wide receiver one, but a true target dominator. And this is the one player we made the philosophical decision to chop off. Week 18 doesn't count for fantasy. There's so many players that on a case by case basis played half a game, played some of the game. We just wanted to know the season we just had. How was it? This is the biggest exception where it hurt his numbers. In week 18 he was the number one, you know, wide receiver in fantasy football and this was a very important game while it was being played for the Falcons. So it was, this was real football where he dominated and he needed to dominate and he came through.

[Jason Moore]

What would that did you have that moved him to.

[Mike Wright]

I don't have that in front of me because I don't have Everybody else's Week 18 data.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean look the first half of the season when there was some stability there, number nine inconsistency, finished at nine overall good in all situations, a little bit better at home than on the road finishes. I mean there's 158 target season. That's what you wanted to see. Always going to be a threat for double digit touchdowns in this offense. I mean if you had to say, if you had to list, you know, five guys in the NFC that can do it, how do you not have Drake London on that list with that physical profile? So.

[Mike Wright]

Well the best part about that week 18 is that that's Michael Pennix. You know, the big, the big change here that he had the consistency when he had Kirk Cousins and maybe Kirk Cousins wasn't what they needed. He wasn't the Kirk Cousins of old but he was pretty good with Kirk Cousins. And then you had that change and you have a little bit of fear. But two of those last games with Michael Pinnicks were 106 yards and then the next one was the 187 and two. That's fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

And then we'll round it out with number 10/ number 15, the Garrett Wilson Devonte Adams jets combination. Garrett Wilson finished at 10 consistency of 17, a second half consistency consistency of 26 after the arrival of Devonte Adams who was a consistency rank of 20 but in the second half was 13. These guys had very similar season long numbers. Adams missed a couple of weeks for Las Vegas before the trade. He had the higher percentage of good games, barely higher percentage of great games, more bust games. Again Transitioned halfway during the year. I. What do we. What are we doing here? Aaron Glenn, new head coach of the Jets. They keep asking him if Aaron Rodgers is going to be back. He keeps giving the same answer. We're in evaluation mode.

[Andy Holloway]

Just say no.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, just. Just say no. Say the truth. We all know it.

[Jason Moore]

It's really hard because just he. That would be the answer you want to say. As long as you can answer the question of who's your quarterback with a good answer. But when you're an NFL head coach and you could start your AOC season, or you could start your Pittsburgh Russell Wilson season, you'd rather have the Russell Wilson season because you don't want to have your first year in New York be circling the drain with a nobody quarterback. That's all I'm saying about that, is that, look, it probably won't be Aaron Rodgers, but who's it going to be then?

[Andy Holloway]

So the list of free agents here, I'm trying to pull it up real quick. So we have. Well, you have the Sam Darnold decision that the Minnesota Vikings have to make.

[Jason Moore]

You're not bringing Darnold to New York.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, bring him.

[Mike Wright]

Bring him back home, baby.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably not.

[Jason Moore]

If that happens, you can have all my possessions.

[Andy Holloway]

It probably won't happen. I mean, speaking of not going back, Zach Wilson, those are both free agents. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So they can pick all their old guys.

[Andy Holloway]

So, I mean, Lance, Jacoby, Heineken, Mario.

[Jason Moore]

Or they're aiming any quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Or they can go for a quarterback with the number seven draft pick overall.

[Andy Holloway]

Fields.

[Mike Wright]

Fields or Russ Fields.

[Andy Holloway]

Jameis, dude. Send Jameis to the Jets.

[Mike Wright]

That's how I would be in on Garrett Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's.

[Jason Moore]

Every other name you said would terrify me for Garrett Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, very.

[Jason Moore]

And then Devonte Adams, I don't think is hanging around with that Aaron Rodgers, I really don't. So if you want to give a point back in the favor of Wilson. Look, Wilson doesn't even want to be there. Wilson's not going to get another contract there unless they sign. Unless it's a rookie quarterback. That shows Bo Nick's potential.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The Wilson his future is. It's.

[Jason Moore]

So Garrett Wilson is a good to very good wide receiver. And I don't feel like that should be an insult, but it feels like it is.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think that's. I think that is appropriately the truth. Like, he is not a great wide receiver. He's a very good wide receiver. He'll have a quarterback problem. It seems like based on the names you read and the draft capital that they have at number seven that they. I mean, Kirk Cousins should probably be in. Yeah. Kirk Cousins in the year, the old quarterback off the. Off the Achilles. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Rotate to the other one.

[Mike Wright]

Probably not going to do it. It's funny because they either rotate to someone they drafted or they do another bad job drafting. I mean, you know, that's why I.

[Jason Moore]

Think Rogers could still be there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, at the very least, it does make sense that Aaron Glenn would have the company line because if they're wanting to draft the quarterback, they're wanting to sign a quarterback. Doesn't behoove them to say, no Aaron Rodgers. They want to say, yeah, we're going to. We're going to evaluate. Maybe he will be our quarterback. And then, Sam, I got the number seven pick in there, but I do think that when Aaron Glenn finishes that conference, it goes to his office and shuts the door. He's like, I hope not.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there's a lot of drama that comes along with that, for sure. I'm starting to think a quarterback's pretty important, though, for these teams.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. This year was the first year I started thinking quarterbacks matter.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

You know, I think they make an impact on the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

It's going to make a difference.

[Mike Wright]

They should protect these guys.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

One of these guys will have to be a bridge.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe they could bring in and start week one a rookie, but you still.

[Andy Holloway]

Have to have someone else on the roster just to compete.

[Jason Moore]

To compete.

[Mike Wright]

Like.

[Andy Holloway]

And there's.

[Mike Wright]

There.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no one in the. In the free agent quarterback list that is. It's like incredible because that's. That's.

[Jason Moore]

You could have a rookie. You could have a rookie go compete with Justin Fields. But that would make sense.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a few names where.

[Mike Wright]

Like give me Jamis or give me Death.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to the last name. It's gross.

[Mike Wright]

But.

[Andy Holloway]

But if Cooper Rush goes and starts the year for the jets, give me.

[Mike Wright]

Jamis or give me Jameis.

[Jason Moore]

We want for entertainment, but not. There won't be victories associated with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, not for the fantasy, not for the Jets.

[Mike Wright]

We're not here trying to get the jets wins. No, that's an impossible task.

[Jason Moore]

We will try. We're going to get through a bunch more names on the next episode. But first we have this.

[Mike Wright]

Fantasy face off presented by DraftKings.

[Jason Moore]

Just a couple cool dudes wearing crazy crowns over here.

[Andy Holloway]

It's weird, man.

[Jason Moore]

Somehow Jason and I. Weird.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys look really different. We do.

[Jason Moore]

We do look a little different than you're used to. Seeing us Travis Kelsey I had him under 70 and a half. He had 19.

[Andy Holloway]

You you got it.

[Jason Moore]

But Josh Allen that was a little bit tighter. Jason and by the way Jason had these same picks. He had Josh Allen over 229. I had him over 228.

[Andy Holloway]

Unfortunately we did not get.

[Jason Moore]

It was close though.

[Andy Holloway]

We didn't get the. He finished at 2:29.

[Jason Moore]

That was. It was eight yards away.

[Mike Wright]

Eight yards from us splitting even though we have the same exact Mike hit.

[Jason Moore]

His more than 36 and a half rushing yards for cream hunt but did not get the Josh Allen rushing.

[Andy Holloway]

Got my one attempt up there but he didn't get in.

[Jason Moore]

So we've got our picks for the super bowl with these crowns upon our heads. I hope they mean good things. For these picks I'm going to go with a player I think will have a surprise impact in the super bowl but it's important for this team. I'm going to go Hollywood Brown Over 41 and a half more than 41 and a half receiving yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

And then I'm going to go Saquon more taking the rush then one 33 and a half rushing receiving combo.

[Mike Wright]

I was really close to taking that exact one when I was looking at.

[Jason Moore]

The rush receive combination I like because it's only. I think it's about what's his rush. 118.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So yeah I'm going to take the rush receiving combination.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I am on the eagle side. I'm going to take Jalen hurts more than 213 passing yards. He's done it recently. He did it this last week against Washington. Last time they were in a Super bowl against mahomes he threw for 300. So 213 I think is a line he can get over. And I'm going back to the well from the easiest victory ever last week. Travis kelsey less than 63 and a half receiving yards against a very good Philly defense.

[Andy Holloway]

It seems like it should be that way. Dallas Goddard I'm going to go more than 51 and a half and pairs.

[Mike Wright]

Nicely with and Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

We were on different sides here but Dallas Goddard really has at least over the playoff run. He has been a go to guy here.

[Jason Moore]

It's just wild because I think that I think that line for him that 51 1/2 is a yard bigger or a yard more than Devonte Smith.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's been massively involved. He the Chiefs were a team that we could get tight end points during the fantasy season. So I'm going to take my chances there. And then I'm going to take Patrick mahomes less than 251 and a half passing yards. I that line of 250 is kind of surprising to me.

[Mike Wright]

The Eagles defense, man, they are very, very legit.

[Jason Moore]

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