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Andy Holloway
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Mike Wright
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Jason Moore
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Andy Holloway
Welcome in. Thursday, January 29th. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Mike Wright is here. Jason Moore is here. Dan.
Mike Wright
Some funny business.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. The Deucers are up to something. We were just.
Jason Moore
Matt asked me to turn his headphones down. That was it.
Andy Holloway
We were just. Oh, is that all it was? Yeah. I see. I never know what to expect from you guys.
Jason Moore
Never know when a gag or a goof is just on the way.
Andy Holloway
You don't know. What happened is. It's like, I think yesterday in the office as we were sitting there and Jason was signing cards for the rest of his natural life.
Jason Moore
Hand is so sore.
Andy Holloway
Sold out, by the way.
Jason Moore
Thank you. Thank you.
Andy Holloway
Thank you very much for the support. That was very fast and excited to get them in your hands, out of Jason's hands. But Jason walked over and he, like, said something to Owl, like, real quiet. And maybe it was related to Wheel of Shame. Is that what it was?
Jason Moore
That's what it was.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I didn't know if it was some plot. I. At any moment somebody could elect themselves into the Ballers hall of Fame, Ring of Honor, whatever it is.
Mike Wright
That kid. There is a very thorough process.
Andy Holloway
It just doesn't seem like I just.
Mike Wright
Have completed it twice, right?
Andy Holloway
No, Mike has completed the thorough process two times. Welcome into the show. Guess nothing weird's going on. January 29th, we have the truth about the wide receiver position. On today's show, we got news, more news, more coaching news to talk about.
Jason Moore
Yeah, a lot of fun stuff.
Andy Holloway
And we'll sneak into an abridged version of Fantasy Face off, share some early thoughts on the Super Bowl. There's a lot going on if you don't remember. Super Bowl Sunday is the day in which the UDK pre orders go live and there will be stuff to access immediately in the Dynasty Pass the ultimate draft kit. Preorder day. Always Super Bowl Sunday.
Jason Moore
I'm pretty sure they remember that. I mean, if you don't remember, there's also football on that day. Yeah. But Super Bowl Sunday is really for the UDK pre orders the Dynasty Pass first drop, all of that. But also they play a game the Seahawks will be playing against the Patriots that later that year.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, they just picked two random teams from the preseason time and it was these two teams and then they ended up in the Super Bowl.
Mike Wright
So I may the scouting has begun for the Dynasty Pass. And not just for that, but, you know, to know the rookies and all these things. Guys, I mean, you already got some favorites. I've already got. I got a guy who I think.
Andy Holloway
I'm like, oh, this is already got an ass.
Mike Wright
This is a third rounder and I'm going to be all about it.
Andy Holloway
Third round's not too far.
Mike Wright
I'm sorry. No. Day three. Oh, day three.
Andy Holloway
Big difference.
Mike Wright
No third rounder is incredible. I love a third round running back.
Andy Holloway
That's not nasty enough.
Mike Wright
No, this is running back. Yes.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
And I'm pretty excited. I don't want to get ahead of it because I don't want to tamper any opinions that you have not formed on these players.
Andy Holloway
Sure. Yeah. No, we're forming them. But I can't wait to find out who Mike will select to be probably on a Hall of Fame trajectory at.
Jason Moore
This point, if not for all of his injuries, because that's his type.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Is burned hot. Burn too hot. Too hot for them muscles and ligaments.
Andy Holloway
And meat, as Jason would say.
Jason Moore
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Ten days until the Super bowl and the UDK pre orders. A reminder. You can watch the show YouTube.com the fantasy footballers click the bell. You'll be alerted to all of our newest episodes. We appreciate it, all your comments. We do read through them. Some are just plain crazy. Just some crazy stuff y' all say. But most of them are pretty cool. Spotify leave us a five star review. Apple as well and the communities over@jointhefoot.com we'll kick it off with some news.
Jason Moore
News and notes from around the league.
Andy Holloway
Where do you guys want to start? You want to start with the.
Jason Moore
Start with Arthur.
Mike Wright
We'll start with the catch up.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, we should have brought it up on Tuesday but you know, I think it was just relief. We could finally put it out of our heads. Arthur Smith is.
Mike Wright
It's not really.
Andy Holloway
He's going to college.
Mike Wright
Not fully NFL news. It's NFL adjacent.
Jason Moore
So you're.
Mike Wright
But he's gone. He's gone, everyone.
Jason Moore
Arthur Smith can no longer hurt your primary running back and your primary wide receiver.
Andy Holloway
Did you hear the news next to it though? What?
Mike Wright
What?
Andy Holloway
They gave Johnny Smith another year of eligibility. Oh yeah, he's going to Ohio State.
Jason Moore
Actually on the Dynasty podcast today, Bets brought up this great point because we're talking about rookies. We're looking at an overview of the rookies that are coming in this year. We realize, you know, wide receiver, you Ohio State, like Jeremiah Smith is the next jsn. He's the guy that years ahead while all these great wide receivers are coming out. Jeremiah Smith is like, wait until he hits the NFL. He's actually the best one amongst them. But that's now the number one wide receiver for Arthur Smith. So he might, when he has a bad, when he has a down season at Ohio State this year, just know Arthur's fault and buy the diploma. Okay?
Andy Holloway
So someone to blame when we don't have another great player. Yeah. So Arthur Smith leaving the NFL. Steelers former offensive coordinator, Falcons head coach heading, heading to Ohio State. So we also got news. More teams found their head coach. The Bills decided to go with Joe Brady, their offensive coordinator. He will call plays for the Bills. He had been calling plays for the Bills.
Jason Moore
What a change they needed. I mean this one just. It doesn't make sense to me. I think we were kind of debating it in the office and you had a good counterpoint. But my thought process is this is a team with a Superman quarterback.
Mike Wright
Right?
Jason Moore
Josh Allen has single handedly made this team good every year. And while obviously the coaching staff plays along. They've hit a wall that they can't get over. That's why they fired Sean McDermott. But then they just were like, we need change, but let's keep it exactly the same. Let's keep our offensive guy that we had. Like, this was an opportunity, in my opinion, to go out and get. Like, this was one of the most desirable jobs. You could go and get someone that could take Josh Allen and not have Josh Allen carry the offensive mind, but have an offensive mind come in here and get the most out of Josh Allen. So, I don't know, you can make the argument that Andy made, which is the problem had been their defense.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, the offense was kind of cruising. This is good for James Cook from a. From a schematic standpoint, it's really good for James Cook. It's not as good for Al. It's good for Allen from consistency, but not necessarily. Like, if you want to see him go back to the Stefan Diggs days. And, I mean, they were the number one running team. They had the league's leading rusher and James Cook. They'll probably do a lot of the same things. But they grew tired of the kind of, you know, clearly McDermott had a problem with Bean about personnel. McDermott's a defensive mind at head coach who really wasn't given a full deck of cards to go out and, you know, play the best defensive football he could play. He complained about it is a little weird. It feels a little bit more personal than it feels like, strategic, I think, in some regards. And we'll see what happens. I mean, I do feel like there were probably outcomes that would have been a little more unpredictable for us in fantasy than Joe Brady saying, certainly from.
Jason Moore
A fantasy football standpoint, now it's predictable. We know that they're going to run the same offense and all of that, so we don't have to worry about wholesale change here. So from that standpoint, it's good. But we would have been bullish on Josh Allen no matter who they brought in.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, part of it was Brady leaving, too. There was the potential for Brady as a. As a head coach and candidate and candidate for other jobs.
Jason Moore
I just like. I like. I don't ever trust good ocs with hall of Fame quarterbacks. I just don't trust them.
Mike Wright
That's. That brings me to my. My point. So friend of the show, Pat Thorman, tweeted this out. He was highlighting that since Joe Brady has started coaching on the offensive side, his teams have ranked in points. Okay, ready? 4th, 3rd, 1st.
Jason Moore
Awesome. Awesome.
Mike Wright
24Th, 29th not good. 2nd, 4th, 3rd and 5th. Awesome.
Jason Moore
Awesome.
Mike Wright
Now in that timeline, I'm going to see if you could spot where things may have gone. Right. So his quarterbacks in that time, Drew Brees, hall of Famer Joe Burrow at LSU with. With Jamar and Justin Jefferson, Josh Allen and then there's a year with Teddy Bridgewater and the year with Sam Darnold in there.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it's like what do you look.
Mike Wright
I don't know what you do with that information because we know this like head coaches who have. I mean we will. We can walk into another piece of news here as the greatest head coach of all time.
Jason Moore
Oh my goodness.
Mike Wright
Is not a first ballot hall of.
Jason Moore
Famer.
Mike Wright
For whatever reason, but nature talking Bill Belichick and some, some things have been brought up but like people are like one of the arguments is, is well, Tom Brady made Bill Belichick because Tom Brady left and he won a Super Bowl. Bill Belichick without Tom Brady not a good head coach for the New England Patriots or before Brady in.
Andy Holloway
Well, he was okay in Cleveland, but it's.
Mike Wright
So the point is like what do you do with guys like Joe Brady where they have. You have, you have elite offensive numbers when you have an elite quarterback, but.
Andy Holloway
Also you have elite offensive numbers when you have an elite quarterback which he has. So it's just hard to know what's corollary. There's so many moving pieces.
Mike Wright
And that's what I mean. Like how much credit should Joe Brady get?
Andy Holloway
The same amount that every single coach always gets when your team wins. It's just what it is. It's a mask for all of it.
Jason Moore
This is where like a Mike McDaniel would have made me excited. Like he, he got a lot of first. He got a lot out of tua. You know what I mean? And I love guys that can schematically overcome poor quarterback play or average quarterback play and get the most out of them. And I just wanted to see that with Josh Allen. That would have been cool.
Andy Holloway
Todd Monkin is the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. This was the Ravens offensive coordinator. And it also is a bummer in the sense that we thought maybe this job would go to somebody else and Todd Monkin would join Harbaugh in New York. That would have made me feel pretty excited about Dart and Scatterboo and neighbors. Not that they can't.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'll still be excited. We have the list of coaches which.
Andy Holloway
We will have a Greg Roman coming there.
Mike Wright
We will have a full list or A full episode where we're going to talk about head coaches and the impact that they have. But we have a list of over the last 25 years, we have seven first time head coaches who were.
Andy Holloway
55.
Mike Wright
Or older when they got their first gig. It's not good, I mean, shocking stuff. It's not shocking to me of I.
Andy Holloway
Think Arians had to have been one of them. There's no way Bruce Arians wasn't one of them.
Jason Moore
Like the oldest first time head coach.
Mike Wright
So like for the most part it is just not good. Of these guys who've never been able to work their way up to the top of the ladder at that age to me is like, no, I'm cool with Todd Monk and calling an offense. I don't know about him being a head coach.
Andy Holloway
Well, I'm fine with it.
Jason Moore
You know, it's not going to work. It's just like whoever the Cardinals sign, it's not going to work. It doesn't work at those franchises.
Andy Holloway
I would love to see this has seven first time head coaches over the last 25 years who were 55 or older. How about you give me the seven last first time head coaches of the Cleveland Browns and their average wins on a yearly basis. There's also that look, you didn't have an offense. You do have a defense.
Mike Wright
Well, I mean Stefanski had some success there.
Jason Moore
Did you see the reports? So they basically, the Browns have a great defense and they've got Jim Schwartz under contract as their defensive coordinator and apparently some. We kept hearing all these coaches are pulling out of the Browns head coaching search because the Browns were adamant that Jim Schwartz is your DC and then.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
And so people were like, I don't want Jim Schwartz.
Andy Holloway
I want to bring my own person in there.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And they're like, no, we need Jim Schwartz here.
Jason Moore
But Monkin is like, okay. And then as soon as they hire him, Schwartz is like, I am pissed that I'm not the head coach. I'm out of here.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's the most, the most Browns. The most Browns hire ever.
Jason Moore
Oh, man.
Andy Holloway
Cardinals still looking. They're interviewing Clint Kubiak for a second time. They've interviewed Mike LaFleur two times.
Jason Moore
And we'll see Kubiak, any LaFleur.
Andy Holloway
Cardinals are the last team.
Jason Moore
Raiders.
Andy Holloway
Raiders, yeah.
Jason Moore
Two left.
Mike Wright
But I, I, I actually have some hope as an Arizona fan that they're going to get either Kubiak or lafleur.
Jason Moore
I do too. I think lafleur makes a lot of sense.
Mike Wright
Like the winds are blowing.
Andy Holloway
It does feel rather. Kubiak.
Jason Moore
I agree. I think. I think he is. Yeah. I don't care. I just want one of those last names.
Andy Holloway
LaFleur is. He could be good. But it's all McVeigh. Right. That caused the offense there in Los Angeles. Whereas Kubiak is the manufacturer of everything good that's happened in Seattle because their head coach is a defensive minded guy.
Jason Moore
LaFleur did call the offense in his previous spot and then came to work under McVay, which is not too bad a path. I'm happy with either of them. Again, like I just said, sometimes when franchises are kind of rotten from the top, it doesn't usually matter. You need to really strike gold for that to matter. And when I'm. That's what I'm saying about Monk and the Browns, it's like, okay, whatever. They're still going to be the Browns. They're still going to be mismanaged and misorganized. And then what's going on with the jets is hysterical to me. It is so outrageously funny. It is so. I mean, the Browns are going to Brown and the jets are going to Jet because Aaron Glenn has fired everyone. Everyone.
Andy Holloway
I mean, standing there like, will you.
Jason Moore
Line your linebacker coach? Gone. Your wide receiver coordinator. You're oc, you're dc. You're just, just, man, what terrible hire.
Andy Holloway
Everyone here getting rid of bedbugs.
Jason Moore
Didn't you just hire all these people? And now guess who's going to hire the next set. Eric Glenn.
Mike Wright
But it's going to get it right this time.
Jason Moore
Oh, it's going to be so much harder this time. Who would want that job? I mean, you're.
Andy Holloway
I know Gruden. Doesn't they try to go to Gruden.
Jason Moore
You're literally going into a job where you guarantee you're fired next year.
Babs from Brunch with Babs
Right.
Mike Wright
I feel like you're going into a job where you guarantee that you have a shot to be an interim head coach.
Jason Moore
That. Okay, that's.
Andy Holloway
That's the sell that would be for me.
Jason Moore
But is that the sell from Aaron Glenn? It's like, guys, I'm not going to make it through next year. You got a chance.
Mike Wright
Now.
Andy Holloway
You're right in the fact that the odds are with the fact that that staff would all be gone with Aaron Glenn.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So you don't get to pick the.
Andy Holloway
Litter because it's going to be all people that move from passing game coordinator to O.C. and, you know, defensive backs goes to D.C. that's what he's got to find. The Titans this is kind of interesting. They're hiring Brian Dable.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
To be their offensive coordinator. I think this is still contingent on Dable not getting a head coaching job, which could come in Las Vegas.
Mike Wright
Been a lot of contingents.
Andy Holloway
I mean, it's the smartest way to do it ever.
Jason Moore
Absolutely.
Andy Holloway
It's how you lock a Mike McDaniel in there and, I mean, let these guys, rather than wait to see what's going to happen, negotiate a set deal for them and then let them go out and see if they get the head coaching job.
Mike Wright
But what do you do if they get the head coaching job?
Andy Holloway
Well, then you got to hire somebody.
Mike Wright
Else, but, I mean, you're going to be.
Andy Holloway
Now, it's double contingent. It's. It's an. If this, then that. It's. If McDaniel gets a head coaching job, you're my OC.
Mike Wright
I'm fourth on the list.
Andy Holloway
Guys, like, I just need these three.
Mike Wright
Guys to get a head coach job.
Andy Holloway
But Cam Ord, I mean, Cam Ord, it's nice. Looked better at the end of the year.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Brian Dable is an offensive mind that, you know, I have some confidence that, you know, what he did for Jackson Dart to begin his career was positive, the right direction.
Jason Moore
I think Salah and Dable's a good one, two punch, I think.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And the jets officially, like you said, they fired their OC to complete the set of firings. The Broncos fired their oc. I. Of course they did. Because, you know, Sean Payton, you should have helped me in the snow with that backup.
Mike Wright
Should have called a better play on 4th and 1.
Jason Moore
To be fair, all season we were saying the issue with the Broncos was their offense.
Andy Holloway
Defense was great and Sean Payton's calling the place. So you good. You go blame the other guy.
Jason Moore
Well, he's.
Mike Wright
You should have told me to call a better play.
Andy Holloway
It's so Sean Payton and then Bill Belichick is not a first ballot hall of Famer.
Jason Moore
Unbelievable. And the. Oh, man, this is so wild that he's not a first ballot.
Mike Wright
Bullying is getting.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're. They debated all the rumors, why they were.
Jason Moore
Have you.
Mike Wright
What are we doing here?
Andy Holloway
So, I mean, you don't think Spygate should have an impact?
Mike Wright
No, it already did.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I mean, well, I mean, it had an impact on his. His career.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
But I'm just playing devil's advocate here because, you know, this is like steroid era in baseball to a degree where like, yeah, some of these guys got in, but they don't get to be first bell hall of Famers when you cheat.
Jason Moore
There was an article, so I think it was the famous Miami Dolphins.
Andy Holloway
I mean, they're going to all think I'm like, super anti Patriots by being devil's advocate. I'm realizing what's coming in the comments. But I'm just asking the question because obviously 10 people decided that that was the case.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So it's so funny if you haven't been, like, plugged in here and reading the articles and seeing all the tweets from player Jimmy Johnson. That dude's pissed. He is dropping expletives online. And so the presentation was made for Bill Belichick. And in that room, it is rumored that Bill Polian basically said that this was an issue and for Spygate, you shouldn't be able to get it. And then Bill Pollian has come out.
Andy Holloway
And said he didn't unequivocally, that is not what happened. And he said he voted for Bill Belichick.
Mike Wright
No, he said that.
Jason Moore
And then he said later, I can't remember if I did or did not. Other people who were in that room, my guy very confidently saying, this dude was the reason.
Andy Holloway
If you can't remember, I was shocked to learn Bill didn't get in poly and said he deserves to be in the hall of Fame.
Jason Moore
Yeah, well, he'll be there, just not first ballot. That's the quote.
Mike Wright
You cannot remember if you voted for Bill Belichick to be in the hall of Fame or not. You should not be voting. This isn't the. This isn't the excuse you think it is, like, done. You don't get to vote anymore if.
Andy Holloway
You can't remember who you voted for.
Mike Wright
Like, you what?
Jason Moore
Well, he remembers. He remembers. But it's. It's bad press right now to say that. But even after Spygate, if you just look at after.
Mike Wright
Remember when the Colts were pumping in noise into their stadium?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Well, Bill Polian was working there.
Jason Moore
So many coaches, Jimmy Johnson and Bill Cower, they've come out and said, like, Spygate, everybody was. Everybody was trying to do what they did. Everyone was trying to steal signs. Like, they got caught and they got punished. But after Spygate, he won three Super Bowls, won, like, more games than John, man. It was like his resume, if you go only after Spygate, was better than most coaches all time.
Mike Wright
Insane. Also, I will say so petty with this. I do have more doubts that Mike Evans will get in on his first ballot.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I wanted to know how you felt about first.
Mike Wright
If the coach with the most Super Bowls of all time can't get in the first time. I don't know if Mike Evans could do it.
Andy Holloway
It'll depend if he's dating a 20.
Jason Moore
Year old part I did see I wondered if that I genuinely was like, are people just like upset because it's.
Mike Wright
Like the vibes, the reputation is not what it once was.
Andy Holloway
There were 10 guys in that room that tried to send the same DMs and only Bill got the reply.
Jason Moore
You know what's funny is so I've seen a bunch of clips from his coaching since this news has come out and the famous play on the super bowl where they Malcolm Butler. Yes. The interception against the Seahawks when they should have given him Marshawn Lynch. And I saw a clip I had never seen before of because it's pretty crazy that he didn't call time out there in that situation on the goal line. The Patriots were down, they needed to get the ball back and score and the clock was about to run out.
Andy Holloway
Two timeouts left.
Mike Wright
Pete Carroll really bailed him out and.
Jason Moore
He didn't call the timeout. But there is a clip, if you have not seen it, where all the coaches, they all are talking about this and they clip up all the moments, all the players, all the coaching staff. You want to talk about unfathomable brilliance in coaching and his choice to not.
Mike Wright
Call that were they like the clips or them saying call timeout, call timeout.
Jason Moore
People are saying do you want a timeout? And he's so intently watching and he's seeing that the Seahawks are having struggle and they're kind of unsure what they're doing right now and their personnel and then all the coaching. I'll. I'll find it. I'll share it online. It was like, this isn't just Tom Brady. That dude was brilliant. And then you know he'll be a second ballot.
Andy Holloway
All right, we'll take a break and come back with the truth of the wide receiver position.
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Mike Wright
I think I'm entitled.
Andy Holloway
You want.
Mike Wright
I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. My last thing is why even have a first ballot then? Why? Why don't do it?
Andy Holloway
Well, I mean, I don't think they're doing it or not doing it. Right.
Mike Wright
If he can't get in on the first one, then just don't even talk about it. Just be like, hey, you're eligible. You were a finalist. We'll see you next year.
Andy Holloway
We are into the truth of the top 10 wide receivers. We've done this with the quarterback position so far, the running back position, little overview. At the top, wide receiver scoring was down across the board in 2025. Second fewest total receptions and receiving yards by wide receivers over the last decade. I mean, we talked about the power of the running back this year. Right. So I'll be curious how in draft season if you have some, you know, what the swing is, because I think it's very justifiable to go running back to start your draft. But I think this year in particular, I think Jamar Chase and Puka Nakua belong in the one on one conversation personally. Whereas where. I don't know if we've had multiples in that conversation at wide receiver lately. But those two guys, to me, I'm not going to argue with anybody, even if they want to take him over Bijan. Right. Like, if you didn't feel. I mean, you do have a new head coach. Offensive coordinator in Atlanta.
Mike Wright
No. JSN in there.
Andy Holloway
I. Jsn too.
Jason Moore
Jason and Puka were really well matched.
Andy Holloway
No, no, that's. It's very fair. I think all those guys. Obviously, if Stafford doesn't come back or something.
Jason Moore
No Zay Flowers.
Andy Holloway
No Zay Flowers.
Mike Wright
Why you got to do that?
Jason Moore
A good year. Yeah. Okay.
Andy Holloway
You want to guess how many receiving touchdowns we had this year versus last year in terms of the differential?
Jason Moore
Oh, wow. I do not know this number. I have no idea.
Mike Wright
I know it was down.
Andy Holloway
It is down.67. Fewer touchdowns.
Jason Moore
Wow.
Andy Holloway
By wide receivers in 2025. So, for example, we had 10 wide receivers with eight or more touchdowns this year. We had 17 last year with eight or more touchdowns. This year's leader was Devonte Adams. He only had four other double digits. That's Amon R.A. higgins, Puka and JSN and then good old Olave Pickens, Juwan Jennings, Jamar Chase and Quentin Johnston are the others with eight or nine.
Mike Wright
What was that last one?
Andy Holloway
Quentin Johnston.
Jason Moore
Quinton.
Andy Holloway
Quinton Johnston.
Mike Wright
Just making sure people are hearing that name.
Andy Holloway
I didn't hear Zay Flowers, though.
Jason Moore
Well, we'll talk about them on today's episode. Zay Flowers is a top 10.
Mike Wright
Zay Flowers is a champ. A league of record champ.
Jason Moore
I was like, he did. He didn't make the playoffs.
Andy Holloway
No. But yes, he was more. He was. It was a year. Melvin Gordon in the Chiefs. Is that who he was?
Mike Wright
Well, how so?
Andy Holloway
I just not really remember when Melvin Gordon was waving his Chiefs ring around like, Melvin Gordon's a Super bowl champ with the Chiefs.
Mike Wright
Yes, I. Yeah, I understand that.
Jason Moore
And you probably didn't remember that he was ever on the Chiefs.
Andy Holloway
All right, number one overall, Puka Nakua, 24 years old. Number one at the wide receiver position number one, inconsistency. We take a look at the consistency of every player. That's what the truth is built on. It's not just where they finished in fantasy. It's how consistent were they week to week for your team. We look at their entire game log. We break it down into great games of 20 or more points for wide receivers, good games of 12 and a half or more and bust games fewer than seven points. Puka, we know the story, but the numbers tell you 38% great, 81% good, 6% bust games for Puka Nakua, that number's down from 18% last year.
Jason Moore
Machine like he is, you look at his career and has one of the best rookie seasons literally all time and was so good top 10 in our consistency rank metric. And then the following season, even though he missed some games, he, he was so much better than he was that rookie season, getting up to 73% of his games being good. And then this last year, even better. I mean, you can't ask for much more. He had one bust game on the entire season. He doesn't even score a ton of touchdowns. So it's possible we have not seen the best Puka. Like if they start involving him around, I mean if Puka comes out one year and scores 12 touchdowns because you know he's going to get the PPR, I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of his career he had a 12 touchdown season. He's fully capable.
Andy Holloway
He's such a funny player. And if you look at it in the isolated redraft single season, like I just, I just feel like he's the number one pick in the draft. I really do. I feel like Puka Nakua is the number one pick in all fantasy drafts. We'll see what my opinion is come, you know, June, July. That's how I feel right now. Now the Stafford thing, it's a ticking time bomb, right? Like Stafford's career will be much shorter from this point forward than Pukas will be. We will have a transition at the quarterback position. If McVeigh is still involved, we'll obviously be really in on Puka. But it's a one year window, one year at a time. But 1700 yards, 10 touchdowns, you know, stayed healthy.
Jason Moore
Man, they really need to draft a quarterback.
Mike Wright
Yes, they do.
Jason Moore
Like they need to have someone waiting in the wings.
Mike Wright
Do not Pittsburgh this thing. You know, the end is coming for Matthew.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I feel like there is a chance the end for Matthew is The end for McVeigh yeah. And it kind of feels that way.
Jason Moore
Like what it should be.
Andy Holloway
It's like McVeigh's like, why prep for your time? I'm not here.
Jason Moore
Right. I want them to be as bad as possible when I leave.
Andy Holloway
That way I could be a first ballot hall of fame coach.
Mike Wright
No one could be anymore.
Andy Holloway
But yeah. We don't need to tell you how good Puka was. Really, you know, it for fantasy. But the numbers, you know, outstanding on a week to week basis. Stayed healthy. That was nice. Home road splits, the same defensive, the same, you know, if it's top or bottom defense. He just did the same thing every week, all the time and it was, it was awesome. JSN is number two and number two in consistency. These guys were so similar. I think it's. I mean it's just a magical season from both of them.
Jason Moore
One bust game for each guy. Basically Puka had I think one better big outlier, like heavy hitting score. Otherwise JSN was just as consistent, just as regular. Never let you down.
Mike Wright
Real fibrous.
Andy Holloway
I was going total Raisin Baron joke and in my head, but I was like, no way. Mike talks about this once a day.
Jason Moore
He's a regular every day.
Andy Holloway
Have your JS in once a week and you'll always be regular.
Jason Moore
And is now in the Super Bowl.
Andy Holloway
6% bus game. 76% great. 20 or sorry, 76% good. Which is a higher number or. No, it's not Puka's at 81. Yeah. Very, very similar numbers.
Jason Moore
Not a coincidence that these two guys just played each other for the right to go to the Super Bowl.
Andy Holloway
No.
Jason Moore
You know, it's like the two best wide receivers this year were getting their team there.
Andy Holloway
12 top 12 performances for JSN.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. That was awesome. Number three, Amon Ross. St. Brown with a consistency rank of number five in the first half. He was number four in consistency. He dropped off in the second half 17th, played through some injuries late in the season. We need to remember that. But 24% great. That was up from last year. 59% good. That was right around where he was last year. The bus games went up though. The previous two years, just 6% bus games. This year, 24% bus games.
Jason Moore
Which is still a good number. It's still a good number, but it certainly drew not what we are blobfish. It's certainly not what we're used to with Almond Raw. But down the stretch the Lions had some problems. You know, their season kind of collapsed at the end and you saw it in the Game log for Amon Ra. I'm not really that worried about it. You know, the Ben Johnson factor, him being gone. It made an impact. It really did.
Andy Holloway
He was much better against bottom 16 defenses. So when things were easier for golf, obviously they were much better for Amon Ra. Home road splits were about the same the last three seasons in a row. Do you realize he was the wide receiver three all three years? Yeah. And this year he was drafted at the 110. So he got the respect in the draft. That's where JSN stood out because it was, you know, Amon Ra went ahead of Puka barely and then JSN is like a round and a half later.
Jason Moore
Yeah. The nice thing is for being, you know, not the giant 50, 50 type of wide receiver. They use him around the goal line a touch. Led all wide receivers and red zone targets with 33. He had as many receiving touchdowns inside the 20 as the Giants or Jets.
Mike Wright
Oh, as a team, yes. Oh.
Andy Holloway
Do you any surprise, you know, he was number 17. Inconsistency in the second half. That's when like Laporta went down. Jameson Williams took full advantage. But somehow Almond Rob became less consistent over that time. I think that's interesting. I don't know if that's like the interior part of the field. Teams could focus a little bit more on Amon Ra without laporta there.
Jason Moore
I mean it could also be the fact that Jameson Williams really had a great second half of the year and on those great games. Those are drive ending long touchdowns sometimes. And that that will come at the expense of the other wide receiver.
Andy Holloway
Number four, Jamar Chase. His consistency rank was number three. Like these are very corollary. We didn't have any really surprise fantasy finishes that were, you know, crazy inconsistent yet. But Jamar Chase, number five in the first half, four in the second half. The first four weeks of the year.
Mike Wright
Oh man.
Andy Holloway
He was wide receiver 77, 44 and 60 in three of those four weeks. And Joe Burrow went out.
Mike Wright
It's hard to remember.
Andy Holloway
And it was basically like panic in the streets.
Mike Wright
Yes. And it was a, it was a panic that I still think was.
Andy Holloway
It was appropriate.
Mike Wright
Jake Browning, it was appropriate of.
Andy Holloway
Without a trade he was doing.
Mike Wright
How do you possibly see a road out of this? Because good Lord, Jake Browning in week.
Andy Holloway
Three and four, you know who didn't get the Joe Flacco escape hatch? Justin Jefferson.
Mike Wright
Right, right.
Andy Holloway
That's. That's the other side of the coin.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
You needed a Jode Flacco in. Well, he got it for like two seconds with Carson wins. Sort of right where he was kind of okay. And then it's like he's gone and you didn't get that relief.
Jason Moore
I think we're realizing that there are three tiers of quarterbacks that matter for fantasy. There are the great quarterbacks. That's awesome. You want your wide receivers to have them. When we look at these great wide receivers over the years, we talk about, oh, Larry Fitzgerald had his down years still in his prime. He didn't have a quarterback, Hopkins, et cetera. But it's, it's a middle tier quarterback with a superstar wide receiver can absolutely produce enough.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
When they're hashtag bad, there's no overcoming it.
Andy Holloway
And that's what Browning was. That's what the offense was. Go look at Chase Brown's numbers. And then it all turned around and you rode Flacco right into Burrow. And that ride was great. And he ends up with 185 targets, 1400 yards. Very similar numbers to last year. Same percentage of great games. Basically the same good. The bus games were up because of the Browning weeks. But Jamar Chase is just. When all the receivers in football are at their very best. Jamar Chase is the very best is how I feel.
Jason Moore
I think that I would. If I was a general manager, he would probably be the wide receiver I would take. Like if I got my pick of every wide receiver currently in the NFL, I think it would be Chase over Justin Jefferson over Puka.
Andy Holloway
I feel like he's the hardest to truly stop defensively of all the other.
Jason Moore
Receivers he tweeted out. So if you haven't seen the great Clint Kubiak design on that JSN touchdown.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he said he would have been truck sticked at the line.
Jason Moore
Exactly. He gets a little bit more focus on the defense. Not that the defense isn't trying to focus on jsn, but when you're playing against Jamar Chase, that's. That's everything.
Andy Holloway
He did have the biggest home road split of any top five wide receiver. Rock. So he was 21.8 points per game at home, 9.6 on the road.
Jason Moore
Tell me, those Browning games, were those at home or on the road?
Mike Wright
Yeah, the two were on the road.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Okay, these are. It is skewing the stats a little.
Andy Holloway
Historical ranks through the first five years of Jamar Chase targets number one all time receptions, number two behind Almond Raw yards number two behind Jefferson.
Mike Wright
With.
Andy Holloway
We always hear about Jefferson leading the, you know, having the record through his first five years. And here's Chase, also breaking all those other records. Tied for fourth behind Rice Moss and Des Bryant for receiving touchdowns through his first five years. And the highest scoring fantasy player of all time through first five years.
Mike Wright
He's great.
Andy Holloway
Now, interestingly enough, his average depth to target, it's dropped for five straight years. 12.9, 9.8, 9.19 and 8.9. But again, get the ball in his hands. That was part of the recipe when Flacco got there. Just find a way to get him the football at all times. All right, we have number five, my guy. I mean, not mine, my guy. A my guy.
Mike Wright
The number one receiver for the Dallas Cowboys.
Andy Holloway
That would be George Pickens. I mean, this year, George Pickens, number five overall, number six in consistency. That consistency went from number six in the first half to 11 in the second half. I'll throw CD Lamb into this analysis too. At the same time, handle the Cowboys because he missed so many games that his fantasy finish was much lower.20th, but his consistency rank was 10. So he was actually less consistent than Pickens even in the games he played.
Mike Wright
Lamb still had a very solid year. It really fell apart at the end, but it was solid.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Aside from the missing time, what was.
Andy Holloway
Your takeaway from these two guys? I mean, one, do you expect Pickens back 29% great. 53% good. 24%.
Jason Moore
But I can't fathom a world where they let Pickens walk without franchising him. I haven't heard anything of that nature.
Mike Wright
Because there's no possible. You can't, no matter what, you have to get him under contract.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And he is going to demand a huge contract. The next best wide receiver on the open market this year. Talked about this on the, on the Dynasty show.
Andy Holloway
It's.
Jason Moore
It's not a good free agent class for wide receivers.
Andy Holloway
Alec Pierce is out.
Jason Moore
Alec Pierce is the next best.
Andy Holloway
Oh, is it? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a gap.
Jason Moore
Oh, there's. There's a huge gap.
Andy Holloway
One can be your like, you know, Alec Pierce is not coming to be the one on a franchise.
Jason Moore
And the truth is that one of the reasons I wanted George Pickens as a my guy is because he has a perfect schematic fit for how Dak plays. Dak has not had that outside deep threat that, you know, over the last few years outside of CD that he could let his very good deep ball find a home. And it was perfect for George Pickens. So I want to see them. I want to see them, you know, run it back again next year in those Games when they were playing together, CD Was the more targeted player, but George Pickens had the more valuable targets deeper down the field. Both are great.
Mike Wright
It's. Yeah, I mean, I know you got to franchise them and you're going to figure it out from there. But like the cap situation. Cowboys are in the thick of it. Yeah, it's.
Andy Holloway
They should just do whatever the Dodgers do, man. Pay Pickens like the Dodgers.
Mike Wright
Thing is there's 10 million salary cap.
Andy Holloway
Well, pay Pickens all his money in like 2050.
Jason Moore
I literally thought you were wearing a Dodger shirt when we're. You're talking about the Dodger. No, I know, of course. Why would you. You see what I'm saying, right?
Mike Wright
The shirt that. That is modeled after a Dodger shirt. Yeah, that's fair enough.
Jason Moore
I didn't realize that that was modeling.
Mike Wright
So it's like long term teams make things happen. You know, they. They find ways.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, the cap is fake.
Mike Wright
They. They find ways to. To figure it out.
Jason Moore
But they're going to cost him a lot of money because I don't think they can afford a full contract here. If Pickens were to go on the open market, he's getting a monstrous deal. I don't think the Cowboys can afford that.
Andy Holloway
Spotrack projected his market value to be four years at 122.4.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I mean, he'll be what, probably a top. At least a top five wide receiver of all time just because of how the money moves up.
Andy Holloway
So you mentioned Javante's a free agent. Yes, Brandon Aubrey's a free agent. Oh, that's a projected 26, $27 million.
Mike Wright
You got to pay Aubrey.
Andy Holloway
And Jadavian Clowney is a free agent too, for them, but that one's less important.
Jason Moore
But yeah, get rid of the defense.
Andy Holloway
Give me your. Yeah, that worked out really well. If their defense improves, it will be.
Mike Wright
A question about, you know, it'll be lame, man.
Andy Holloway
CD Lamb, 7% great games. He did not. That name, that number is insane. He had drop problems. His good game at the end. Yes, his good game percentage was the same as Pickens. But how do you think the psychology of fantasy players will react to this season? And then going into the draft season where CD Lamb will be rounds ahead of George Pickens and yet Pickens has this. You know, this is not a small sample. This wasn't all when CD Lamb was gone. This was 17 weeks.
Mike Wright
Well, I mean, what do you think by rounds? Where do you project?
Andy Holloway
I mean, I imagine that CD Lamb is still pushing the second round right?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think.
Jason Moore
Yeah, maybe the first round.
Mike Wright
Second, but I think.
Andy Holloway
I don't think first.
Mike Wright
I think George will be. George will be a third round pick.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Let's call it middle of the second, middle of the third.
Mike Wright
Sure. Which I think that's a fair place to start him. And I think that both of them. That's fine.
Jason Moore
The.
Mike Wright
If the fantasy community wants to drop CD Lamb into the second round, I will draft him everywhere.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I'm.
Mike Wright
I'm still fully confident. Look at the year started. Wide receiver nine on the road against Philadelphia, wide receiver 11 against the Giants. And then he got hurt and like Mrs. Three.
Andy Holloway
I don't think they want to push him there. But you are not going to draft CD Lamb. I don't think you will see him drafted ahead of the. Ahead of Amara Puka, JSN and Chase. Those are correct. Yeah, those are not happening.
Mike Wright
That's fair.
Andy Holloway
Beyond that, I mean, sure.
Jason Moore
I mean the truth is if you look at his game log last year he was basically on pace for 100 receptions of 1500 yards. Awesome. Awesome. Pre George and three touchdowns.
Andy Holloway
Oh, right.
Jason Moore
So I mean the issue this last year for him and the no bottom booms is he wasn't getting the touchdowns this year. That's not the sticky stat. I'm going to look at the targets, the yards, and then project that he gets a percentage of the touchdowns, which is more in line with his career average, which will put him pretty high.
Andy Holloway
Are you saying that his. His like yardage numbers, that was his projection without the injured games?
Jason Moore
Correct.
Andy Holloway
Still at the 1300.
Mike Wright
Kyle's given us some early 1300 for the absolute degenerates out there playing best ball already.
Jason Moore
I believe you are including week 18 and week three where he. The game he got.
Andy Holloway
You took that one out. Yeah, gotcha.
Mike Wright
So best ball adp. It's already going, everybody.
Jason Moore
Oh yeah.
Mike Wright
Lamb is right now at. Going at the seventh pick. So the. At least the early adopters are not penalizing CD Lamb. And George Pickens is going like about the. Just a little bit later in the second round.
Jason Moore
Still 26, totally in his prime.
Andy Holloway
All right, we'll take a break. We'll talk about some other names that surprised to find themselves in the top 12.
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Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
Well, okay, Chris Olave comes in at number six. Consistency rank of eight. If you look at the first half of the year, this was not. That was not the time period in which Chris Olave, you saw this coming.
Jason Moore
We call those the Rattler years.
Andy Holloway
21St inconsistency in the first half, number two in the second half. He got shucked tonight.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah, he did.
Andy Holloway
I mean, he was really, really great. I mean you did not have like the names beyond these top five. They're kind of wild. Olava at six, you have the disappearing. Like we can talk about them because they're not going to be on the show. But like Jefferson isn't part of this conversation today. Malik, neighbors expected him in this conversation. He's not there. Brian Thomas Jr. Thought he might be in this conversation. He's not there. Nico Collins, we'll talk about him.
Mike Wright
Chris Olave.
Andy Holloway
But it's Chris Olave. Yeah. Tyreek Hill's done right.
Jason Moore
Chris Olave in the Tyler Schuck games. Okay, so Tyler Schuck started starting in week nine and then from that point on, from week nine through the rest of the season, Puka Nakua had 19.9 points per game. JSN had 17 points per game. And then Chris Olave was right behind him at 15.8. I guess technically in one game played. Tory Horton is in there at 18 points, but obviously it does not count.
Mike Wright
How are you feeling, Jason, after. So you had. You made a legendary footballers move in our dynasty league. Jordan Addison, off of his hot rookie year and two firsts for Chris Olave and last year felt pretty bad about it.
Jason Moore
Right now I'm feeling pretty good about it. You know, the truth is the big issue with Chris Olavi and it will be there forever, is the concussion risk. He came out and talked about the fact that this off season he did consider walking away. Had the conversations of should he stop playing football. I love that. I love that he's concerned about it, that he made it through the entire season without having a problem and that he has a quarterback now. That, I mean part of the problem in concussions and wide receivers. I mean, if you go back and you look at the Chris Olave concussions, I feel like several of them were basically murder balls. You know what I mean? Derek Carr throwing up these balls that Chris Olave is going to try to go get. And he. If I, if I'm confident that a quarterback here can protect Chris Olave and that Chris Olave is concerned with protecting himself, there's never been a doubt in my mind of talent.
Andy Holloway
No, no. We've always believed in the talent. It was, it was a quarterback situation and injuries. And now you're dealing with the blood clot. Right. He at the end of the year, right after he's like, I'm finally going to play the entire season he goes out with. I think it was, it was a blood clot, right?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
In his lung.
Andy Holloway
And so, you know, next year it'll be interesting. I don't think he's drafted anywhere near wide receiver 6. But, but there'll be other players back. Like I'm not taking Olavi over neighbors coming back from injury. I'm not taking him ahead of Jefferson. I'm not those guys or how much.
Mike Wright
People react to this.
Andy Holloway
I think they'll be very aware, acutely aware and try to steal him. Kyle Kim and everyone will try to steal him and he'll go higher than.
Jason Moore
Give me his underdog ADP.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Andy Holloway
He's going 26 overall.
Jason Moore
26 overall.
Mike Wright
Okay. Top of the third. That's expensive. That's probably where he's probably fair.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I don't know. Well, maybe fourth. Early fourth in redraft. All things considered, he had never had a game over 20 fantasy points in his career before this year.
Mike Wright
That is impressive.
Andy Holloway
So it was. It was special. Played much better against worse defenses and was oh, so good with Tyler Schuck. So there's a hope and a future there in New Orleans.
Mike Wright
Zay, when's rookie of the year is that stuff?
Andy Holloway
So the finalists were announced for ap. For ap.
Mike Wright
But like, when's the big reveal? Hullabaloo?
Andy Holloway
I don't know the date.
Jason Moore
Is it the honors week? Is it this weekend? Maybe.
Mike Wright
Maybe. If only we could find out.
Jason Moore
If only we knew from every other year.
Andy Holloway
And remember 5th, 20, 26 ahead of Super Bowl. So it will be NFL honors that night. So I believe. So a week from Millen is a finalist.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
It seems like Tyler Shuck and Jackson.
Mike Wright
Dart seems like rookie of the year is Tyler schuck or Teterowa McMillan.
Andy Holloway
I believe the Pro Football Writers of America already did theirs. They named Teterom McMillan their rookie of the year, and that was on January 20th. Zay Flowers comes in at number seven.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he does.
Andy Holloway
I mean, this is. This is where truth.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Is. I mean, the truth is revealed. The truth is Zay Flowers is not remotely the number seven.
Jason Moore
No. He didn't help you wide receiver.
Andy Holloway
He played all of the weeks he.
Mike Wright
Did at the end.
Andy Holloway
His consistency rank was 16. It was 30th in the first half of the season. I'm looking at the game log. I would have smiled five times.
Mike Wright
You would have smiled a lot at the end.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I wouldn't have been there. I mean, you're there because you didn't have him in the beginning. You traded for him halfway through the year. That's a good time to do it.
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
But you might not have been where you were if you had him in the first half.
Mike Wright
And I'm not. I do love Zay Flowers. I think he is an excellent player. But I. This. I'm not doing a full cover and apology for how Zay Flowers got to where he was. I mean, he did have. He was 86 for 1200. So that's. I mean, that's pretty solid. And then the questions are, I mean, like Lamar. Lamar missed a good chunk of time. Lamar Jackson came back and was quite bad at the game of football. And. And then Zay kind of overcame that at the end. So I just. I wonder how. Jay, because you like how you factor in those variables, because I think they're very real and very fair. But it's just how much do you.
Jason Moore
Like if you were to ignore weeks five through eight when Lamar missed. You mean you can't really ignore Lamar playing poorly because that was just his quarterback. I can get you the number if we take those games out, but in.
Mike Wright
Those games, no, I'm not necessarily looking for the numbers just of like, just the overall, like the vibe.
Jason Moore
I mean I feel, I think we're, we are years into Zay Flowers knowing that Zay Flowers, despite finishing as a wide receiver. One, he's a wide receiver two for fantasy. He's not bad. He's a very good player on the field. But they don't consolidate enough targets to him. Put it this way, he's not a takeover guy. Last year he had 116 targets. That's not enough to be great on the on a regular basis. This year he had 118. Almost the same when you look at wide receiver ones, they're usually up at 130, 140 targets or you know, all the way up to.
Andy Holloway
I mean look at the consistency numbers. This is what the truth is about. 29% good games from the number seven wide receiver. 29% is the lowest of any wide receiver finishing in our top 14 in the history of the True Series since 2017. If I'm getting 29% of the games where I'm happy.
Mike Wright
Well, in the. Kyle was sharing huge problem. 12.1 points per game is the lowest ever for a wide receiver. Wide receiver seven finish. I mean we had, we opened the section with wide receiver. Scoring was down.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Touchdowns were way down for the position. So looking at the last five years, the wide receiver seven on average was about 14 points per game. Which is more is like a couple points a game at this level. That, that'll, that'll move stuff. So it just down year Zay Flowers, right place, right time.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And it's no disrespect to Flowers. He is what he is and he's always been a very valuable receiver from time to time. That makes huge plays. I don't think you ever really go into the game thinking like defensively, oh my gosh. Like this. We got to stop Zay Flowers today. That's all. My point was like I don't think he, he's not one of the guys that we would ever say is a top five finisher.
Jason Moore
Who will be drafted higher next year? Zay Flowers or Mecca Ibuka Flowers?
Andy Holloway
Depends on the offseason.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I mean if Evans God will make Miller all back then I'm baking every.
Mike Wright
Backs of the bucks.
Andy Holloway
It'll be Flowers. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean if you could.
Mike Wright
Turn a book as first half and Zay Flowers second half into one player. It would have been really strong.
Jason Moore
Would have been like Chris Olave.
Andy Holloway
Devonte Adams comes in at 8 with a consistency rank of 7. It dropped off in the second half. He got hurt. His touchdowns were out of control. He was basically a goal line running back.
Jason Moore
He led the NFL in touchdowns despite missing three games. Like he was that far ahead of everybody.
Mike Wright
And he caught 60 passes. Is that, is that correct?
Jason Moore
Yes, that is correct.
Mike Wright
So 14 of his 60 receptions were for a touchdown.
Jason Moore
His 17 game pace would be 17 touchdowns on only 72 receptions.
Andy Holloway
Must be weird for Cooper cup to be like having that game against his former team and then like now you're going to the super bowl and they're not.
Mike Wright
Cooper cup feels 12ft tall.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Right now guys. That had to feel so good.
Andy Holloway
You know him and Stafford were best buds, man.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And Puka. I watched all those matter.
Mike Wright
My best buds can burn all the post game.
Jason Moore
The immediate, you know, pads are still on. Going over and finding Cooper Cup. Sharon love saying go get that title. They, you know, they love each other.
Andy Holloway
Do you feel like the difference of Adams and Cup was that significant?
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
I don't. I think it was significant for Matthew Stafford and for the ability to throw passing touchdowns. I think if, I think if it was Cooper cup instead of devonte Adams, the Rams probably would just score more touchdowns on the ground. So I don't think it was like.
Andy Holloway
The net result for the Rams wouldn't have been much different.
Jason Moore
I don't personally believe it would have been that much.
Andy Holloway
The MVP story wouldn't have been there. That's correct. Correct.
Jason Moore
That's what I'm saying. Like this was really good for Stafford in his accumulation of.
Andy Holloway
I got to give you the last two names here. I know we're, we're getting towards the.
Mike Wright
End of the show, but say Stafford like the last two years was 24 passing touchdowns and 20 and you jumped to 46.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
No, I, that's Devonte Adams.
Jason Moore
I wonder what the total team touchdowns were from the last few years. Kyle, look that up. The offensive touchdowns from the Rams the.
Andy Holloway
Last three years, they were number one in scoring. So it was definitely a special year. Nico Collins comes in at 9 with a consistency of 11. I feel like Nico is the. It's like Batman hiding in the shadows here. We all know Nico has the ability to be that top five. Like none of us is taking Zay Flowers over Nico Collins. No, it's just, it was very, you know he got hurt. Right. Week seven I believe he was 7%. Great games. That's down three straight years now. 27%. 18%. 7%. And the good games, 53%. I'd much rather have Nico Collins and Zay Flowers.
Mike Wright
I agree.
Andy Holloway
As the linchpin of my fantasy team.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I agree.
Andy Holloway
I think I would. He'll definitely go ahead of him next year in the draft. But yeah, he was. He could have used some more help in this offense.
Jason Moore
Like from his quarterback.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he needs help from his quarterback and just. I think having not just two rookies running around.
Jason Moore
Yeah. He was on pace for 1600 yards and 107 receptions in the games without Stroud.
Mike Wright
Oh, and the Davis Mills games.
Jason Moore
The Davis Mills.
Andy Holloway
What was he on pace for?
Jason Moore
Whatever I just said. I'll go back.
Andy Holloway
I'll go listen to the show.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it was three games.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I mean I feel like the lack of a running game hurt this offense. I know Woody Marks eventually established himself but like having a play action game. No Joe Mixon for the beginning of the year, you were running Nick Chubb a bunch. You're running Damian Pierce a bunch. Nico Collins needs some time to run around down the field. Offensive line in the running game are really going to impact what you get from him. He's probably one of those sneakier guys next year.
Mike Wright
I hope so.
Jason Moore
I just don't believe that people will be sneaked out. I think he's going to be drafted super high.
Andy Holloway
You do?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
A.J. brown or Nico.
Jason Moore
It'll be Nico over A.J.
Andy Holloway
Brown. Jefferson or Nico.
Jason Moore
That one. Jefferson is the most interesting name to me. Where Jefferson goes next year. I mean obviously we got to find out who their quarterback is but like let's just say they're running it back with nine, you know and they just got to go into year two and say he's going to take that, you know, that leap forward. I will not be drafting Justin Jefferson in the first round. He was so far removed from anything relevant this year in fantasy that. But. But he will go probably in the first round. No. No matter who his quarterback is because he's Justin Jefferson. I would take Nico over him.
Mike Wright
Assuming it's McCarthy.
Andy Holloway
Guys, number 10 is another line. It's another Lions wide receiver.
Mike Wright
What? It's the second Isaac Tesla.
Andy Holloway
It's the second my guy to make the top 10. Was that supposed to be Tesla? Because I'm now very scared. For those at home, the lights all turned off and we were electrocuted.
Mike Wright
That was fun.
Jason Moore
Jameson Williams, another my guy.
Andy Holloway
You want to hear a disparity of first half, second half. By the way, they no longer have the offensive coordinator. I mean that was a one year trial without Ben Johnson. Now they brought in a new one, Jameson Williams, still just 24 years old. Consistency of 15.
Mike Wright
Consistency in the first half was loose stool.
Andy Holloway
38, very.
Jason Moore
Good consistency.
Andy Holloway
Zay Flowers was 30, not regular. Jameson Williams was 38. He was basically nothing before the buy and after the buy. He was everything. Number seven, inconsistency. The thing that better, better than Amon Ra.
Jason Moore
The thing that stinks part of the year a lot is that you played where he was drafted. You played him at the beginning of the year. He was in your lineup over and over and over, crushing you. And then once he got hot, it naturally took.
Mike Wright
Scooped him up off of waivers. But super happy.
Jason Moore
But it still took many weeks before he went in your lineup. You were like, I don't trust it now. He did it the entire second half. So he became trustworthy.
Mike Wright
Except for week 12.
Jason Moore
Sure.
Mike Wright
That was zero points.
Andy Holloway
Second half consistency, 17 for Almond Ross, 7 for Jameson.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean when Laporta went down and they switched the offensive play calling and Dan Campbell took over, there was a clear shift in how this offense operated. And I don't know if that means that these are bright days for Jameson Williams going forward next year, but that could very well be the case.
Andy Holloway
He is so very much my Ken Walker. Because it's not about like Mike's argument for Ken Walker is if you give him more work, you'll get more Ken Walker. Yeah, the argument for Jameson went you give him more targets. I mean you just brought up he's.
Mike Wright
It turns out that he is good.
Andy Holloway
He's good. So like you just brought up the play calling change. Before they changed away from Morton he was four and a half targets a game. So that turned into 44 yards after it was seven targets a game with and it was 85 yards a game. So you know, it's. If you target somebody more, they will score more fantasy points. Unless it's Emeka Abuca and he'll just score less.
Jason Moore
Good.
Andy Holloway
But there you go, there's your top 10. And we have a lot of other names to talk about. We do have a very brief abridged fantasy face off.
Jason Moore
Fantasy face off presented by prize picks.
Andy Holloway
Well, we don't have, we don't have football games. Do you guys know this? We're not, we're not putting any prize picks down on the Pro bowl flag football. I mean no should do or projections coming your way. But we are going to reveal.
Mike Wright
I Mean the should doer jab and then the Bill Belichick cross was like does anything matter anymore?
Jason Moore
Right.
Andy Holloway
Football. Yeah. I think we're going to reveal Super Bowl. Does our three projections for our player pack for the super bowl before next week? We'll put full lineups together. But I actually went Cooper cup more than 31 and a half receiving yards. Do you guys find that to be odd or weird or. He's been more involved in the playoffs. 5 for 60 against the 49ers, 4 for 36. Last week I think about Christian Gonzalez and the Patriots and I started to think about Cooper Cup.
Jason Moore
No, I think Christian Gonzalez, the Patriots trying to take out the number one weapon and the need for.
Mike Wright
Is Gonzalez guarding Ken Walker?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Nice.
Mike Wright
Super Bowl MVP coming up probably.
Jason Moore
I doubt it for Sam Darnold.
Mike Wright
How awesome would it be?
Jason Moore
I mean that would complete. That would. That nothing would complete.
Andy Holloway
Mike's the year of Mike.
Jason Moore
Full year. That Ken bone Walker. I gotta go. I gotta go look into some things. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. All right. So what's your projection?
Jason Moore
I actually really like mine.
Andy Holloway
Well, this is good. It's yours.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
It's Drake May.
Andy Holloway
I am a beautiful person.
Mike Wright
Who. Did you hear the news that Drake May should play in the Super Bowl?
Jason Moore
I did hear that news. I also heard the news from Variable saying no one is. No one was injured in the playoffs or whatever. Everyone's. I know it was like everyone's fighting through things. We'll tell you what we have to tell you when it's required of us.
Mike Wright
It was but Jared Situm will be.
Andy Holloway
Starting for the New England Patriots.
Jason Moore
But Drake Mays shoulder is injured like he is playing through a shoulder injury right now. And that's why, you know, his line is projection at 225 and a half. This is a good defense he's playing in Seattle.
Andy Holloway
Great.
Jason Moore
Yeah. A great, A great defense with a bum shoulder. I'm not saying they can't win because I'm taking less than 225 and a half. I mean they just won with 86 passing errors from Drake May. But the passing yardage has, you know, the last two times we've seen him in the playoffs, 17986 now he's got a hurt shoulder against a great defense. They're going to. I feel like this game is going to be a coaching a well coached, good defense type of game. And so that to me says probably probably fewer passing yards.
Mike Wright
And I've been watching this one. It has been active and moving and Ramon Ray Stevenson. His projection is now down to 51 and a half rushing yards. It started up at the taking. The more no, I am taking the less this thing has been moving down. So I still am okay with where it is at.
Andy Holloway
That's the one I missed last week. That's why I'm the shame Seahawks.
Mike Wright
The rush defense is stout. Number one in yards per carry allowed, third in rushing yards per game allowed, fifth in EPA per rush. And while Ramon Dre has been the he has been better than Travion Henderson in the playoffs and getting more work he the EPA on Ramon Dre and Henderson is actually bad and I think that the matchup against the Seahawks they're going to want to establish it. I just don't think they'll be able to.
Jason Moore
How good are is the Rams offense? I mean because Seattle's defense.
Mike Wright
Oh, we got the. We got the answer by the way.
Jason Moore
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Mike Wright
Okay, so here is the Rams with Stafford, right The Super bowl year 51 touchdowns.
Jason Moore
That's a ton nice.
Mike Wright
Stafford hurt the next year in 202344 touchdowns. The next year 37. This year 63.
Jason Moore
Okay, Devonte Adams made quite the M. Have a beard. But Devonte Adams did have a beard. But yeah, I mean this is.
Mike Wright
I'm taking the less on Ramon Dre but if you're going to join me on that one, you better find a way in because that thing is. Is moving.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah. He was 71 yards on the ground last week, but it's no game a jillion carries. Yeah, yeah, he had like. It'll depend on whether they're.
Jason Moore
Is this. This is a pro Travion Henderson?
Mike Wright
It is not.
Andy Holloway
No, this is a. This is a pro Seahawks defense and a. You're not going to be game scripted ahead.
Mike Wright
He had 25 carries last week.
Andy Holloway
That was fantasy Face Off. By the way, I'm the wheel of shame for next week.
Mike Wright
Huzzah.
Andy Holloway
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Mike Wright
Goodbye.
Jason Moore
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast – January 29, 2026
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
In this episode, the Fantasy Footballers dive into “The Truth” about the wide receiver position for the 2025 season, analyzing the top-10 WRs’ performances, consistency, and underlying metrics. The trio also explores surprising finishes, dissect “phony” WR performances, discuss key NFL coaching news, and touch on early Super Bowl thoughts. As always, the episode is packed with humor, quotable moments, and actionable insights for redraft and dynasty players.
Wide receiver scoring and consistency were down across the board in 2025. Panel analyzes the top 10 based on end-of-season ranks and consistency metrics.
| Segment | Time | |----------------------|----------| | News begins | 05:54 | | Coaching moves | 06:00+ | | Belichick HoF | 19:05+ | | The Truth – WR intro | 26:05 | | Puka Nakua | 29:05 | | JSN | 32:22 | | Amon-Ra St. Brown | 33:16 | | Jamar Chase | 35:49 | | George Pickens/CDL | 39:46 | | Chris Olave | 48:02 | | Zay Flowers | 52:01 | | Davante Adams | 56:56 | | Nico Collins | 58:52 | | Jameson Williams | 61:31 | | Abridged Face Off | 64:13 |
Episode ends with Prize Picks Face Off for the Super Bowl and reminders about the Ultimate Draft Kit drop on Super Bowl Sunday.
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