Trade Targets, Snap Count Surprises, Shark Bait

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Trade Targets, Snap Count Surprises, Shark Bait
Release Date: September 26, 2018
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

1. Introduction and Personal Updates

The episode kicks off with the hosts sharing personal updates and engaging in light-hearted banter. Jason Moore recounts attending his first-ever Arizona Diamondbacks game at Chase Field, highlighting the stadium's impressive setup. Despite his enthusiasm, Jason humorously admits to falling asleep during the third inning and deviating from his keto diet to indulge in treats like ice cream and deep-fried chicken with nacho sauce.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [02:31]: "I've been on the keto and I was like, well, if I got to... I've been on the keto and I was like, well, if I got to."

2. Trade Targets Discussion

The trio delves into potential trade targets for the upcoming fantasy football weeks. Jason Moore emphasizes targeting Robert Gronkowski, especially from teams falling to records like 1-2, as Gronkowski can still dominate despite recent underperformance. Andy Holloway, however, expresses skepticism about trading Kelsey for Gronkowski due to the Kansas City Chiefs' historically strong offense.

Notable Quotes:
Jason Moore [04:38]: "...you would not really trade [Kelsey] for Gronk."
Andy Holloway [05:00]: "I'd rather have Gronkowski."

Andy shifts his focus to targeting Ty Hilton, arguing that Hilton is undervalued compared to his current ranking. Mike Wright introduces Matt Breida as a valuable target, anticipating an uptick in his usage due to changes in his team's offensive dynamics.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [06:13]: "I'm targeting Ty Hilton... I think the disappointment he's likely on some of those 1 and 2, 0 and 2 teams. I would look to pick up Ty Hilton."

3. Snap Count Surprises

The hosts analyze player snap counts to identify shifts in player roles, which can inform trade decisions. They discuss various players across different teams, evaluating whether increased or decreased snap counts indicate rising or declining fantasy value.

• Lions Wide Receivers: Golden Tate's snap count decreased to 74% in week three, while Kenny Golladay and Marvin Jones maintained high snap counts. Jason prefers starting Golladay for his touchdown potential, while Andy considers Marvin Jones as a reliable option.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [28:52]: "Mine would be Golden Tate. If it's a half point on a..."

• Jets Wide Receivers: The conversation shifts to the Jets, where Sterling Shepard becomes a more attractive option due to Evan Ingram's injury. Cody Latimer is dismissed as a reliable option.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [17:54]: "Yes, yeah, certainly that's. That's the guy that gets the bump."

• Chiefs Running Back Situation: Kareem Hunt's snap count is scrutinized, with Andy advocating for trading Hunt due to his limited receptions despite consistent rushing opportunities. Jason aligns with the sentiment, viewing Hunt as a usable fantasy asset but not a long-term solution.

  Notable Quote:
  Andy Holloway [33:15]: "I'd be trying to trade Kareem Hunt."

4. Shark Bait

"Shark Bait" segments typically involve episodes of playful tension and competitive banter among the hosts. In this episode, the discussion centers around potential trades and strategic decisions, with Mike Wright teasing Jason Moore about trading Sony Michel amidst the evolving player performances and injuries.

Notable Quote:
Mike Wright [24:56]: "Your hunches were correct, my friends. The Patriots will be putting Rex Burkhead on the IR."

5. News and Notes

The hosts provide updates on player injuries and team news that could impact fantasy decisions.

• Ryan Fitzpatrick: Confirmed to start against the Bears, Jason advocates for starting Fitzpatrick over other quarterbacks based on his current performance.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [17:14]: "Yes, he’s not a locked in must start, but I’m..."

• Jared Cook and Sony Michel: The Patriots' decision to sign Kenyon Barner signals possible issues with Rex Burkhead, affecting Sony Michel's fantasy value. Andy and Jason discuss the implications for Michel's role and potential performance.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [19:25]: "...Rex Burkhead's out of the way and he becomes the guy, he's got the chance to really take over here."

• Minnesota Vikings Preview: The Vikings' strong performance is analyzed ahead of their matchup against the Rams, with discussions on key players like Kirk Cousins and Dalvin Cook.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [40:19]: "...I would rather start Marvin Jones the rest of season than Calvin Ridley."

6. Mailbag

Listeners submit questions, and the hosts offer expert advice:

• Starting QB vs. Opponent's WRs: A listener asks whether to start Deshaun Watson over Patrick Mahomes when facing opponents' elite receivers. Jason advises sticking with Mahomes due to his consistent high performance despite the opposing WRs.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [46:48]: "That's what I'm saying is that."

• Trade Scenarios: Questions about trading wide receivers and running backs are addressed, with the hosts recommending strategies based on player performance and team dynamics.

  Notable Quote:
  Jason Moore [49:56]: "You can do this."

7. Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with a reminder to engage with their community through YouTube and their website, alongside final thoughts on trade strategies and player evaluations. The hosts briefly revisit sponsor messages before signing off.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [55:09]: "You guys have any final thoughts, shark related or otherwise?"

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This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast offers a comprehensive analysis of potential trade targets, evaluates player performance through snap counts, and provides strategic advice to help listeners optimize their fantasy football teams. The hosts' candid discussions and expert insights make it a valuable resource for both seasoned and novice fantasy football enthusiasts.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Ah.

[Andy Holloway]

Let'S go. Let's get ready. Week four, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Back again, I am Andy Holloway, joined as always by Mike the Fantasy Hitman Wright. Hey, Jason Moore, you.

[Jason Moore]

Hey.

[Andy Holloway]

We, we've got a great show for you today. We are alive and Jason, step one. Jason went to his first ever it is true baseball game yesterday in my life.

[Jason Moore]

They built this gorgeous stadium in Arizona, I believe just chase field.

[Andy Holloway]

Just 20 years ago.

[Jason Moore]

20 years ago. And I finally made it down. Saw my first game of that baseball. Shout out to the Arizona Diamondbacks. Thank you for hooking us up. They were fans of the show, got us all. I mean we got on the field, it was a great time. And I'll tell you, if you like baseball, that stadium was awesome. And if you're like me, we may.

[Andy Holloway]

Have got a clip of.

[Jason Moore]

Football is so much better. It's. That's not fair to baseball, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Now in baseball's defense, I know you fell asleep during the third inning.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

However, in baseball's defense, you. You broke your diet a little bit yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. I've been on the keto and I was like, well, if I got to.

[Mike Wright]

Watch baseball, I might be self medicated.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Cold stone creamery calls, a lot of.

[Jason Moore]

Ice cream, some baked goods. Got the deep fried chicken with the nacho sauce and. Yeah. And the.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if this was baseball's fault, but can either confirm. Nor did that we all had our kids with us and we all left early because we had been down there and the game was going late into the night and school and all that. But did you guys, did either of you realize the D backs walked it off last night.

[Jason Moore]

Not until you saw that this morning.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a walk off homer last night beating the Dodgers.

[Mike Wright]

Very exciting.

[Jason Moore]

When we left halfway through the game, it was one to nothing. Nothing had happened. Walk off, exciting finish that we didn't get to see.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I got a quick question for you guys. Who is one now, this is not fantasy baseball, Jason. This is fantasy football. Who is one player that you are targeting in trades right now? So last week on Wednesday, we talked about some trades that people had done. Brooks thought this would be a good question. Who are you actually going out and targeting now that we go into week four? Maybe it's someone underperforming. Maybe it's somebody that's performing well that you think other owners haven't bought into. Right? They don't. They think it's a. It's just a phase, but maybe it's not a phase.

[Jason Moore]

Right. I could tell you mine. I mean, I gave a tip about going after teams that are.03 or 1 and 2. They are much more likely. Well, I think you're going to find a couple and three or one and two teams that have Robert Gronkowski on them because you have to give up an early draft. Capital pick in the draft to get him. And the last two weeks he hasn't done what you expect, what you need, what you will get from Gronk going forward, which is just completely and utterly dominate. So there's very, you know, usually it's hard to get Gronk and it's rare to find Gronk coming off of two poor games. But if you're a, if you've got Jordan Reed or you've got Jimmy Graham or even, you know, Kelsey, who's way out, produced him so far, you can probably work a deal to snag Gronk. And I, there's not one ounce of me that thinks you would really trade.

[Mike Wright]

Kelsey for Gronk right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I would trade Kelsey for Gronk. You would you not?

[Mike Wright]

I don't think I would it.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

It's. It's not. And this is not a player versus player. This is an offense versus offense. The Kansas City Chiefs are on a historical pace now. That.

[Jason Moore]

And they won't stay there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, maybe they don't break the records.

[Jason Moore]

But the Patriots are on a slow pace and they won't stay there. You brought up the fact when they get Josh Gordon, when they get Julian Edelman, these things are just.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's going to, of course, but you're hoping and projecting that it will improve. I meanwhile, the Chiefs are they're just dominating and I think the domination of the Chiefs offense continues. That's why I would be hesitant to move Kelsey for Gronk.

[Andy Holloway]

Teams are going to get tape on Mahomes and adjust. It's a matter of whether Mahomes readjusts. He's not going to get to do this the whole year. You don't get to do the exact same thing the whole year. Every quarterback in the history of the NFL people have adjusted for and made changes to. It's going to be up to Mahomes to make that change. I don't disagree that they're an incredible electric offense, but I'd rather have Gronkowski.

[Jason Moore]

And regardless of the kelsey situation, only 1 out of 1 12th of our listeners have Kelsey right now in their favorite league. Everyone else, you can still trade for Gronk.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm targeting Ty Hilton. Ty Hilton is better than, excuse me, he is better than the 32nd ranked wide receiver that he is right now. I know much has been made about Andrew Luck average depth of target.

[Mike Wright]

It's bad.

[Andy Holloway]

It is bad. It is bad that we're not seeing him extend the field as much. There have been incompletions down the field. He has made throws down the field. My belief is that this is going to be a progression for him to get down the field. And either way, Ty Helton is simply too good to be a wide receiver. 3 and so I'm targeting him because I think the disappointment he's likely on some of those 1 and 203 teams. I would look to pick up Ty Hilton. I'd love to have him on my roster.

[Mike Wright]

The guy I'm going to throw out is he's a player who is already excelling but perhaps the person who has Matt Breida on their fantasy team. Maybe they're freaked out by maybe they are scared and nervous that the handsome one has gone down to a very unhandsome injury.

[Andy Holloway]

What if they're scared and nervous that they don't think his 8.9 yards per carry will continue?

[Mike Wright]

Well, that won't. But here's the thing that's going to pick up Last year Carlos Hyde was the bell cow for The San Francisco 49ers When C.J. beathard the new quarterback when he was playing with Carlos Hyde. Hyde averaged over 8 targets a game as compared to 3.8 last year.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Breed is about you're saying as opposed to 3.8.

[Jason Moore]

That was Hyde.

[Mike Wright]

That was Carlos Hyde last year in games with. With Garoppolo. Garoppolo and Hoyer now. So what I'm projecting, what I'm expecting is a huge uptick in targets for the running backs. Maybe Kyle use check gets a little bit more action. But running back targets are going to go to Matt Burrita. Yeah, they're not going to go to alf.

[Jason Moore]

This was the name I went to put in. I wanted to target Matt Breida. He is a clear target for me. I mean you just laid it out perfect. When the starting quarterback goes down and he's overperformed expectation, you go, I want to try to. I want to capitalize on him. It's not going to continue. The offense is going to be worse. I get all those arguments but I agree with you. I think he's going to be more involved in the passing game and he's going to be a legit running back to the rest of the season. Who I think you it's not going to cost you much to get Breida from half of his owners.

[Andy Holloway]

What about Alfred Morris who had a very good week last week? I almost made a trade for him this morning simply because I thought I could get him cheap. Sure. Do you believe that because of Bethard. You know, obviously the offense has to be dialed back a little bit. Is there an opportunity for ALF to exceed.

[Mike Wright]

There's definitely an opportunity that the run scheme of Kyle Shanahan has been extremely successful. But Breida would be the target as well. And perhaps they're also if you have breeder, you're concerned about the injury. So maybe that that brings down the price even more. You know, changing offense. The guy looked like he was done for the season for a portion of that game. I think I'm with Jason that I think he could for what he has done and what I'm projecting for him to do. He's going to be cheaper than he should be.

[Andy Holloway]

The injury turned out to be a hyperextended knee. He came back in the game and performed well. Before we get into pump the brakes because it is Wednesday. Before we do that I want to remind you you can check us out on YouTube. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers if you missed.

[Jason Moore]

Best news segment ever you missed some.

[Andy Holloway]

Of the impromptu news drop change from yesterday. There is a highlight video up. We're starting to do this. We're going to throw a couple of the highlights on YouTube as well. So you can check that out. Click the bell if you want to be notified of new videos, live streams, things like that. Twitter FF Ballers Follow jasonasonffl Follow Mike ffhitman and I am Andy Holloway. The website is the fantasy footballers calm the rankings for week four. They'll be up at noon today, noon Pacific, so stay tuned for that. We'll continue to adjust and improve them all week long as we get more news, notes, information. But like I said, oh, he's warming it up. It is Wednesday, so.

[Jason Moore]

Oh. O o o'reilly. O'reilly. Parts.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a real low one by me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The registered old man. River.

[Andy Holloway]

Rivers. We're talking about rivers. Yes. Are you pumping the brakes?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

What I was amazed is that I clearly was like teasing pump the brakes. And leading into it and it still caught Jason by surprise completely.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he was like little known fact. Everything catches me by surprise.

[Andy Holloway]

Who are you pumping the brakes on? We. As we head into week four, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna throw out Isaiah Crowell. People may be excited by his fantasy output thus far and it was a very exciting week for Isaiah Croell. However, he gets to take on the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are allowing the second fewest points through three games. Crowell is a touchdown or bust type of guy. You got two last week, so you were incredibly happy. The problem is Crowell only received 53% of the running back attempts and those attempts that turned it only 32% of the running back rushing yards, which is not good. And I understand he was getting carries up by the goal line, but you could see Bilal Powell was vastly superior with his opportunities. So I'm concerned about Crowell this week against Jacksonville.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, I hadn't seen yours until just now and I'm actually a little surprised. So who's your pump the break?

[Jason Moore]

My pump the brakes this week is Marvin Jones. This is a pump the breaks. That's saying that the expectation of what has been happening is not one I want to necessarily bank on. This week. There is not a specific cornerback matchup. The Lions go on the road to Dallas. This is not one of these cornerback matchups where I go, man, because that guy's going to be shadowing him. He's going to lock it down. This is simply based on a number of factors centered around volume. The Marvin Jones, we've, we've seen him have two really good weeks in a row, which means most people are going to start him. That's pretty much, you know, people chase the points. Oh, he's been involved. He's got a touchdown in back to back weeks. But this is a. They're not going to be playing the Patriots. They're going on the road to Dallas. The over under for Vegas is 43 1/2 points. They don't expect a big barn burner there. And I think that makes sense, right? You're at home. Zeke is going to run the ball. They're going to slow it down. So now if you have less total passing volume and less touchdowns going up on the board on the road, now you're splitting that up between Golden Tate, Marmon Jones and Kenny Galladay. He's a guy that I think a lot of people want to bank on as a locked and loaded wide receiver, too. But he's had four receptions each of his first three weeks. And if you don't get that touchdown and you only end up with four receptions, only six targets last week in a lower scoring game, I just think, you know, I'm a little hesitant for him to just put up a touchdown every single week. So I don't think he gets a touchdown this week based on the matchup, the over under, and if he doesn't get a touchdown, you're going to be disappointed.

[Andy Holloway]

The Cowboys contained Carolina and New York the first two weeks. In terms of wide receiver fantasy points, they only give up 10 and then 16.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Shockingly they.

[Andy Holloway]

Last week they gave up 32 because the Tyler Lockett, you know, they were on the road. It's interesting because I. I've been on the fence in my dynasty league between Keelan Cole and Marvin Jones this week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I've been going back and forth, back and forth. You know, Keelan Cole has to face the jets, but he's the clear target leader on that team versus Marvin Jones who has that deep playability. If you get that play, you're really, really happy.

[Jason Moore]

Even, you know, you brought up how the.

[Andy Holloway]

But now I switched back to Cole.

[Jason Moore]

Jason, you're welcome. Yes. Your thank you is deserved. Yes. No. But even with that monster game from Tyler Boyd over the first three weeks, the Cowboys are the third best against wide receiver from fantasy Tyler Boyd or Tyler Lockett. Tyler Lockett.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

What year is it?

[Andy Holloway]

I got very confused, so I'm going to pump the brakes on Calvin Ridley. I heard a stat yesterday that is mind blowing, but Calvin Ridley had more touchdowns in one game.

[Jason Moore]

Two games.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry. In two games then Julio Jones has had in his previous 24 games. I mean, it's just I love Calvin Ridley the talent. I love Julio Jones the talent more and I know the world freaks out when someone scores three touchdowns and it's just not going to happen like that. Each and every week the snap count Percentage for Ridley I believe is still in the 60%. And I think while you're going to get the boom bust games, look, we've seen it from that offense in the past. There were, there was a run of Taylor Gabriel touchdowns, there was a run of Mohamed Sanu success. I think Ridley's better than those two players and more well rounded. But I am pumping the brakes on making him an auto start on an auto start.

[Jason Moore]

And this is on a one week basis or you know, because a lot of people doing waivers picking him up. I look at him, I look at his upcoming schedule, I really like it. Cincinnati this week, but then Pittsburgh and Tampa Bay and New York before the buy.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, I think Ridley's going to be in that, you know, I'd rather start Marvin Jones rest of season than Calvin Ridley. Sure. So, you know, if you're talking about two, three, fringe guy, I think that's what you're going to end up with by the end of the season. They have to face Cincinnati this week. They are at home. They have a nice schedule. Like you said, Pittsburgh, Tampa. So I think there's opportunity but I think, you know, the overreaction is why I'm bringing him up.

[Jason Moore]

I want, people love chasing those. I want a triple touchdown game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, those are nice.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, that was pump the brakes from O'Reilly Auto Parts. Better parts, better prices every day. Let's move on to the news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the old. Busted.

[Andy Holloway]

I know, I know. Look, the, the funky news drop is. It's in my draft, it's in my board and we'll use it from time to time. You can't, you know, you can't get funky every day, can you?

[Mike Wright]

We want to funk.

[Andy Holloway]

Ian Rapaport reporting that all signs point to Ryan Fitzpatrick starting week four against the Bears. Do you start Ryan Fitzpatrick in Week 4 against the Bears?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he's not a locked in must start, but I'm.

[Mike Wright]

He'll be in the top 12.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he'll probably be in the top 12. He's just airing it out. They can't run the ball. Just keep firing away.

[Andy Holloway]

Doug Peterson said Alshon Jeffrey has been cleared for contact and he may, may be available for Sunday, but no decision yet.

[Mike Wright]

Excellent.

[Andy Holloway]

The Giants called Evan Ingram's injury a week to week MCL sprain. Two to four weeks is the estimate right now for Evan Ingram, who benefits from Ingram off the field. Are you looking at Sterling Shepard and saying, wow, that he's a little more interesting these next few weeks?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, yeah, certainly that's. That's the guy that gets the bump. I don't think Rhett Ellison is going to be someone that you can count on at all. Even though he came in and had a touchdown. Sterling Shepherd's a great player. The only issue with shepherd has been the are there enough targets to go around? You take him away from Evan Ingram. Sterling Shepard will be a flex.

[Mike Wright]

And what about Cody Latimer? You have any interest in?

[Jason Moore]

Nah.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

He's had like what, four years now to show me he can be a productive NFL receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Hard pass on Latimer on this side. Bruce Ellington Injured Reserve Texans wide receiver Hamstring injury Farewell.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The Patriots resigned Kenyon Barner. Now Rah Rah. Kenyon Barner doesn't matter much, but what matters is they resigned him, which is indicative of an issue whenever you. Rex Burkett.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Whenever you have an injury floating in the ether for any team out there, you go, oh Jai, he's not practicing today or whoever. And then all of a sudden you see that team promote someone from their practice squad or sign a running back to the act of 53. It's usually a really good indication that the presumptive, somewhat questionably injured starter is injured because they might not play. So yes, I. That's exactly how I read in to Kenya. Barner signing could be nothing. I lean towards it being bad news for Rex Burkhead, which is.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. But I also believe that Barner will be. This is more of a special teams because Rex Burka is an excellent special teams player. So perhaps they just, they take him.

[Jason Moore]

Off of that and look, we gotta. We've got to discuss Sony Michelle here because even I like I'm on record. I. I have started to believe that Sony Michelle is the player that I was down on compared to the consensus prior to the NFL draft. I never thought he was a real pass catching back. Kind of showed that. But his opportunity is coming now. If Rex Burkhead is out of the way and he becomes the guy, he's got the chance to really take over here. He's a guy I literally just traded away. But I wouldn't blame anyone for making him a trade target if you actually he was almost mine believed in Sony Michelle. I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

But their offense is going to be better. Sony Michelle is going to be better. It takes time for running backs to acclimate to that system. Whether you're Rex Burkhead, James White. It's taken them all time. First game out there, some jitters, some fears. I Think it's going to be sunnier days for Sony.

[Mike Wright]

Michelle Sonier.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, it was right there, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Missed that one. Don't forget it's Wednesday. So if your waivers have gone through, which they have by the time you listen to this, don't forget to drop it like it's high.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Make sure you check out who people have dropped this week, especially some of the people giving up on players. Maybe Larry Fitzgerald hits your waiver wire. Maybe some of those type of guys. And a quick note. Fournette practicing. Yelda not practicing. Fournette likely to play this week. So that is good news for.

[Jason Moore]

I remember that same note earlier this last week though as well.

[Andy Holloway]

I think they took a, an attempt at resting him and just sneaking the win at home against Tennessee.

[Jason Moore]

Didn't work.

[Andy Holloway]

And it didn't work.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So I guess they need them there. Yeah, I think they made a good decision though because you need Fournette to be healthy. Hey, before we get into some cool Snap article stuff, listen, I have been really excited to talk about this sponsor. It's a new sponsor away. They are an awesome luggage company. My next vacation I'm getting the complete set. I have one of these bags right now and they're awesome. The way that I view this, if you travel ever for work or you go on a vacation or anything, having nice luggage makes all the difference in the world. And this is like, this is like what I view. If Apple were to design luggage, everything is thoughtful, it's all really well crafted. There's a built in battery pack where you can charge your phone while you go. When all of your dirty clothes are like, oh, what do I do with my dirty clothes? After the thing they've got this compartment where you put it in there and you squeeze it down. It makes total more room in your luggage. They're really first class luggage at a really good price. That's a way they also back this. Check this out. Try away for 100 days. Vibe with it, travel with it, Instagram it. And if at any point you decide it's not for you, return it for a full refund. It's free shipping within the continental United States. You will love this. If you need a bag, go to awaytravel.com Footballers use promo code Footballers to save $20 off at checkout. That's a way to travel.com Footballers and promo code Footballers for $20 off your away suitcase.

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Snap counts. I wanted to take a minute to walk through. This is a great time of the year to look at snap counts and how players role on the team is changing. And this can be indicative of a player you want to trade away because their role is decreasing. And it can be indicative of a player you want to target because the team is gaining confidence in them. And this is key that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the team's opinion. You know, it's so funny. We're always talking about how we're shifting our views on players and so are the teams, the actual NFL coaches.

[Mike Wright]

We have breaking news.

[Jason Moore]

Breaking news.

[Mike Wright]

Your hunches were correct, my friends. The patriots will be putting Rex Burkhead on the ir.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, mercy me.

[Mike Wright]

Go get Sony Michelle.

[Jason Moore]

Shoot, I just traded Sony.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, wow. That escalated quickly. Yeah. Well, there you go.

[Mike Wright]

Got the old sleeper alert.

[Andy Holloway]

That is a disappointing conclusion to the Rex Burkhead preseason hype train. Yep. You know, it's an injury, it happens. But my goodness, I mean this is.

[Jason Moore]

There were a lot of them. Here's the real thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's talk briefly and we'll jump back into snap counts. Jason, you were in the middle of an incredible sentence.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, I'm sad.

[Andy Holloway]

But James White.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean if your confidence level is not high on the, you know, two minute drill, third down, blitz, protection, all of the things that James White is proficient in, I don't think Sony Michelle is going to be A, you know, on the field all the time. So James White's going to be out there in what, 40, 45% of the snaps, if not more.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, James White's a great target. I don't believe Sony Michelle is the pass catching back that a lot of people thought so since Rex Burke had had that skill set and that's gone. I love the idea of picking up Sony, James White, but I, you know, also Sony, I mean, had I known that Rex Burkhead was going on the ir, I would not have traded Sony. And that's coming from someone who is not a huge Sony believer. It's just you want a piece of the offense. The goal line opportunities when the offense starts clicking should be there for Sony.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. All right. I believe Jason was saying actual NFL teams, opinions change about players. That matters. The more confidence they get, the more opportunity you'll have to put them in your fantasy roster. And really, we talked about this with tight ends. If, if you're trying to decide between a few guys and you're deciding between 60% snap count and 80% snap count and they're, you know, a coin flip. Otherwise I go with the guy that's going to be on the field. There's just more opportunity for something to happen. Yeah, really common sense. So let's start with the Lions wide receiver core because we brought him up a little bit earlier this week. But it was very interesting. In week three against New England, Golden Tate snap count went down to 74%. It was 84 and 81 the weeks before. You know, Marvin Jones is still out there, 90, 190.

[Jason Moore]

And Kenny Golladay has been out there just as much. 92%, 92%, 87%.

[Andy Holloway]

Golladay and Jones don't leave the field. Pretty much, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Golladay and Jones are always out there. Golden Tate is the slot receiver. I think if you look at what happened in week three, this was more of a standpoint of more run formations. This is just fewer. All three of the Lions wide receivers had fewer snaps. I'm not concerned about Golden Tate dropping down to 74%. If you see that in a vacuum, that's one thing. But both carry on. Johnson and LeGarrett blunt had 16 carries apiece. That's 32 carries just between those backs. So I think this was a situation of trying to get the game over while you're ahead of the Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

And that's true because the Lions running backs Theo Riddick In Week 1 when they were being blown out 60% of the snaps, 28% of the snaps last week. I mean, they were not in a position to need to throw the ball to him. Dump, dump it off. Two minute drill, that type of thing. Carry on. Saw 44% of the snaps last week, which is actually the same as the week before. But Legara Blunts went up as they ran out the clock. But the question on the wide receivers, I mean, plain and simple, half point per reception league. You have to start one of them. Who are you picking?

[Mike Wright]

Lions wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Kenny Gollady.

[Jason Moore]

Mine would be Golden Tate. If it's a half point on a.

[Andy Holloway]

On a regular basis, I would take Kenny Golladay.

[Jason Moore]

For the touchdowns, I would take Kenny Golladay. I rank them right now. Golden take Kenny Golladay, Marvin Jones and I. And I'm not, I know I'm putting Marvin Jones third and I pumped the brakes on Marvin Jones, but I'm not actually against Marvin. I think he's a fine option for your team. This is a passing attack that should be able to work, but I want volume more than anything. I think that's still going to be living with Golden Tate.

[Andy Holloway]

The biggest problem I have with picking Tate there is simply the fact that like you, he never finishes in that upper echelon.

[Jason Moore]

Right. You're not, he's not going to be a wide receiver one, certainly. But I think he's going to be, you know, slightly more consistent. Seven receptions. Seven receptions. And even this last week, only on the field, 75% of the time. Six receptions for 69 yards. If you're in a half point league, he basically got you 10 points on, on a bad week.

[Andy Holloway]

The Jaguars wide receivers in week three against Tennessee, Keelan Cole went. In his three weeks, Keelan Cole has gone from 75% of snaps to 83% to now 93% of the snaps. I think he's, I mean, we all agree he's kind of the guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

On this offense, the only one you care about. And he had, I believe he had double digit targets this past week. Only had six catches. And that was really Blake Bortles issue. Bortles struggled mightily this past week.

[Mike Wright]

Nine targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Nine targets.

[Jason Moore]

Could not for the life of him find his snake. It was, it was missing. He was not Blake. He was terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what it was. Dante Moncrief, he realizes what he has done.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Moving on.

[Andy Holloway]

Dee Dee Westbrook. Dee Dee down to 68% of the snaps. Dante Moncrief up to 84% of the snaps in week three. Do you read into that at all.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Dante Moncrie.

[Mike Wright]

Hopefully we get some more base slapping.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he had the touchdown and I was so happy to see him slap it at base. It was great. But Dante Moncrief isn't a good receiver and so that's his number one problem. He'll have, you know, he'll have games with touchdowns in the future. He's not going to be 100% irrelevant, but he's going to be 100% never on my team.

[Andy Holloway]

Quincy and Noonwa, Robbie Anderson, Terrell Pryor. If you want to know how they've been doing, just look at J E T S. Yeah, quincy and Nunois. 84% of snaps in week three, his season high. Robbie Anderson 66% of snaps, down from 81 the week before. Robbie Anderson had the fumble. Robbie Anderson is over.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Yeah, 100%. He's over. Until now. He might resurface based on one or two things happening. If as the season progresses, Darnold improves, they start opening the playbook. He starts going down the field. I could see a second half resurgence for Robbie Anderson, but not, not in the next few weeks, not in the next month, month and a half. That's going to be late in the season or injury to Sam Darnold. Josh McCown comes back in, scoop Robbie up off of waivers. In the meantime, it's Baxter off the bridge situation. You punt him, you get rid of him.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's important to note, I mean, Anunwa's snap count went up despite the return of Jermaine Curse, who had targets. Anderson was the one who suffered from Jermaine Curse's return. Kearse was out there. Charl Pryor actually had his highest snap count of the year at 69% but is irrelevant for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Quincy's great and he's a guy that needs to be rostered, needs to be started in most weeks. I almost pumped the brakes on him this week. I didn't think he was essentially good enough to pump the brakes on. But he's Jacksonville because he's playing Jacksonville. So this is just gonna be a bad week for the jets receivers and Darnold.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to cover two more situations, then we'll get into the Thursday night preview and some mailbag today. The Chiefs, the running back situation. Week one, Kareem Hunt was 71%. Week two against Pittsburgh, 69%. Last week, 61%. And then Spencer Ware was up to 23%, his highest snap count of the year, which fits with the recovery from the injury. He needed some time to get more acclimated to share snapshots. Now, 61% of the snaps is great for a running back. That's not a complaint. That's not the problem. The problem I love Michael Keaton is that Kareem Hunt has exactly one reception on the entire season.

[Mike Wright]

He has three targets.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd be trying to trade Cream Hunt.

[Mike Wright]

I don't blame you at all.

[Andy Holloway]

I. He had two touchdowns last week. That's not going to happen every week. And this is the time to go trade him and pick up somebody more with a heavier load in the passing game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

This is not, this is not a fire sale by any stretch for Kareem Hunt.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

He's going to be a usable fantasy guy.

[Jason Moore]

He's.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, he's 16 carries. 18 carries. 18 carries. Andy Reid's finally getting that part right. We're getting. We're getting near 20 carries a game for Kareem Hunt. But Pat Mahomes does not check down to the running backs. And this Kareem Hunt was so great last year because he was a 50 reception type of guy.

[Andy Holloway]

With Alex Smith, right. With Pat Mahomes version of a check down is a 35 yard pass.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That's like, I'm just gonna, you know.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my 50 yard wasn't open. I'll just check it down, dump it.

[Andy Holloway]

Down to 35 yards away.

[Mike Wright]

I saw him look at Kareem Hunt a few times and Kareem Hunt was wide open and Patrick Mahomes said, I would rather die.

[Andy Holloway]

It's, it's.

[Mike Wright]

This is for my honor. And then he just throws the ball away.

[Jason Moore]

He just throws the ball away out the back of the end zone. Going to do it, Hunt.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, actually, guys, I have a little different take on that. I think what he's worried about is actually throwing the football through Kareem Hunt. If you try to dump it down to Hunt within the first five or 10 years, it might just go right through. And that would be. That's assault. That's assault with a deadly football. So look, the truth is, if I could go. What I'd be looking to do is take. Give me. Take Kareem Hunt, take another player and go get Saquon.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, something like. Something like that. Because Kareem Hunt's name value. Saquon's name value. Look, maybe you want Saquon right now, but if you gave somebody Hunt and a middling wide, like a wide receiver, two type of candidate, right? Like, who's to say that Kareem Hunt and Larry Fitzgerald doesn't get you Saquon.

[Jason Moore]

Well, Larry Fitzgerald won't get you much right now. I think you'd be better off offering Calvin Ridley and Cream Hunt.

[Mike Wright]

Just get the, get the hotness off the waiver wire.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The Seahawks running back situation changed drastically in week three. In week one, 44% of snaps for both Carson and Penny. In week two, 30% of snaps for both Carson and penny. In week three against Dallas, you at least saw the recipe when they are winning and Chris Carson had 72.5% of snaps. Rashad Penny had 14.5% of snapshot. That is a rusty Penny.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Not good.

[Mike Wright]

It's Chris Carson from here on out. I still honestly do believe Rashad Penny is a second half fantasy player. I don't think Chris Carson can keep up with a 32, 32 carry type of a game with the way that he runs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the way he runs. He's going to get injured. Correct?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, with his shirt off though, man, he's got. He's built.

[Mike Wright]

Is he?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh, he's built.

[Jason Moore]

He's an NFL running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Show me he's built yet. Pete Carroll said after six carries last game he was too gassed to play in the second half.

[Mike Wright]

It was because of the special teams. Because of those like 3 or 4% of the special team snaps that he took.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Pete Carroll's a liar. Chris Carson is the, is 100% the guy you want as someone who believed in Rashad Penny coming into this year and I mean, certainly thought that that would be his role. First round draft pick. You have to pivot. You have to change your.

[Mike Wright]

Are you going to try and target Chris Carson, though?

[Jason Moore]

Is this a long term belief? It's a long term belief. I don't think it's going to go away by play. I think it'll go away. If it goes away, it's going to go away by injury. But I'm not targeting Chris Carson because right now you're paying up for a guy who just got 32 over 100. It looks like the three down or at least, you know, the. Every. The full workhorse back for a team that I don't think is going to be able to run the ball well in general with that offensive line. So no, I'm not, I'm not targeting him right now.

[Andy Holloway]

You're certainly starting him over Penny and that was a decision last week.

[Jason Moore]

It was.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I figured maybe this is the time they'll pass the tour.

[Mike Wright]

It didn't look like it, but.

[Andy Holloway]

Nope.

[Mike Wright]

The Seahawks are not to be trusted.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Thursday night preview before the mailbag here we're talking the 11 and 1 Minnesota Vikings.

[Mike Wright]

1111 1.

[Andy Holloway]

Fresh off their Buffalo Bill butt kicking. They have to put some lotion or.

[Jason Moore]

Get some bills again.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. Does that have Buffalo Bill?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, that was a Buffalo Bill butt.

[Andy Holloway]

Kickin Bill butt kicking. They might have another butt kicking coming their way. They travel to Los Angeles to take on the Rams. The Rams are three and oh, the Rams are six and a half point favorites at home against the Vikings. That's quite the line. I mean, I know they're at home, but the Vikings were expected and are expected to be a Super bowl contender. So this just tells you the confidence that we have in the Rams right now in that offense. All right, well look, the Vikings, their defense hasn't been as stout as it was last year thus far.

[Jason Moore]

They are Everson Griffin. I mean, yeah, that, that is really telling.

[Andy Holloway]

Ever so much.

[Jason Moore]

Ever so much. So he's a guy you need to monitor. See when he gets back in. I don't think he's playing this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Jared Goff's been on fire. He has 16 completions for 20 plus yards this season. He's got, Brandon Cooks has been a revelation.

[Mike Wright]

He's changed the passing game.

[Andy Holloway]

He really has. He's opened it up for everybody. It's not just Brandon Cook's production, which has been fine, it's Brandon Cooks is doing what they hope Sammy Watkins would do, which is be an ever present threat, be a downfield threat. And all of a sudden Robert woods is on fire. Cooper cup is taking the next step.

[Jason Moore]

Go ahead, stack the box against Gurley.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's a, it's an absolutely great offense. And then Gurley's doing what Gurley does, which is, you know, score every game and be, you know, over 100 yards rushing.

[Jason Moore]

Last week I, I have offered, I offered David Johnson, Sonya Michelle, Amari Cooper and a second rounder, your firstborn child.

[Andy Holloway]

Say what else did you include for that was a full away suitcase full.

[Jason Moore]

Of players for Todd Gurley in our league of record and oh, I'm going to be shocked.

[Mike Wright]

He said no.

[Jason Moore]

He said no. Yeah, he made the right call for the record.

[Andy Holloway]

But that is the kind. Look, you get the best player back and a guy on a winning team, he's got everything you want. Talent, opportunity, amazing team and a head coach that actually calls plays correctly. We were talking on Sunday. Hell, they get around the goal line and they look like they're going to do something really cute and they don't they hand it to Gurley? They look like they're going to be.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but they disguise it.

[Mike Wright]

You don't do that jumbo crap.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and you don't. You don't hand it to your fullback when Marshawn lynch is standing in the backfield. And that touchdown could have won you the game.

[Mike Wright]

Because McVeigh understands in today's football, you don't have to say, okay, you know, we're gonna run, but we're gonna run it on you. And why, why look like you're gonna pass and then run? It's far more successful. Read a book.

[Andy Holloway]

Read a book.

[Mike Wright]

And wash your butt.

[Andy Holloway]

And wash your butt.

[Mike Wright]

Getting heated today.

[Jason Moore]

You are.

[Andy Holloway]

You're on fire.

[Mike Wright]

So let's talk actual fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, the real questions are all on the other side of the wall. It's Kirk Cousins. It's Dalvin Cook, the hamstring. He's day to day, you know, do they take the chance to put Cook in a hamstring out there on Thursday Night Football against the Rams? And I don't think they do.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think Dalvin Cook plays. His own words have painted poor picture. I mean, he has said straight out that, yeah, he thinks he could be available. Now, the week prior that went from like, definitely, yes, the week prior was, I'll definitely play the next week. And then you just realize what happens if he does or does not play. This is a Thursday Night Football game. If he does play, it's less rest he's getting in, chance to re injure. If he doesn't, it's extra rest before the next week because it's a Thursday night game. So I can't imagine them starting him. And I was worried about Adam Thielen and Stefon Diggs, but with the injuries to Aqib Talib and Marcus Peterson, you know, the two star cornerbacks, I know that there are good backups for the Rams and this is still not going to be an easy matchup, but you have to start those guys. And I wouldn't pivot away because of the Vikings.

[Mike Wright]

What about Cousins, though? Yeah, I would start Cousins as a top 12 guy.

[Jason Moore]

This is, I mean, Vegas expects there to be, you know, a high scoring.

[Mike Wright]

Game, I think almost 50 points.

[Jason Moore]

Both great defenses here are currently dealing with some injuries that have shown a little bit of weakness or I could show for the Rams sake.

[Andy Holloway]

I am going to go out on a limb here and I am 100% benching Kirk Cousins. I am not playing Kirk Cousins on Thursday night with a terrible offensive line against Ndama Kong sue and Aaron Donald after he just got pulverized by Buffalo. I think this is one of those situations where look, maybe it works out but if I could find another option, sure, I'm going to be real happy to find it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he, Kirk is not, he's probably not going to end up top 12 in the rankings but I do think.

[Andy Holloway]

You can set in his phasers the bench to sit to set his face.

[Jason Moore]

I think he sent his phasers to stun.

[Andy Holloway]

He sent him to stun?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Like you know, he's not setting him.

[Andy Holloway]

To kill to done.

[Jason Moore]

He's just sending him. It's just like a. Yeah, he's gonna, I mean it's. To me he's going to go out there, he's going to get you 20 points if you're in a six point per touchdown league, which is not good enough anymore. But yeah, I mean it's not good enough.

[Andy Holloway]

We just brought this up. Russell Wilson hasn't had a game under 20 points. He's the 17th ranked quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

That's not true. Standard.

[Jason Moore]

That is not how it usually goes.

[Mike Wright]

He's dealing with the competition. Likes of Joe Flacco.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's it.

[Jason Moore]

Well, Joe Flacco is two spots ahead of him.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Mike, Mike, would you start and will you start Kirk Cousins?

[Mike Wright]

I asked Jason because I was asking for a friend. I have Kirk Cousins all over the place and I don't want to play.

[Jason Moore]

You got Kirk Cousins and Ryan Fitzpatrick in your dynasty league. Who are you starting?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks for helping the people there, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

That's, that's the honest truth is I'm actually considering playing Ryan Fitzpatrick. The, the rankings will be up in a few hours.

[Jason Moore]

You'll be able to see how your final decision.

[Mike Wright]

See my, well, my Wednesday decision then check on Thursday.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you starting Kyle Rudolph? You saw the rams give up 180 yards to Jared Cook in week one.

[Jason Moore]

I will start Kyle Rudolph in this matchup for sure because I do think the Rams will score and if that puts, you know, if you don't have Dalvin Cook and you're not able to run the ball, Kirk's going to have to throw the ball. And with, you know, their defense, I think Rudolph is a great player.

[Mike Wright]

Let's say Cook is out. Are you going back to Latavius after the.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I wanted to bring that up. Jason, you to the Pooh Show. From my recollection, one of your teams as Dalvin Cook. I'm not sure which team. I think a super team.

[Jason Moore]

It's it was the super team that had him and Freeman, Devonta Freeman next to David.

[Andy Holloway]

Somebody posted a picture of the Lakers when they had old Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard, Paul Gasoline and run our test as a comparison to Jason's super team.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I saw it.

[Andy Holloway]

How to make you feel inside.

[Jason Moore]

It made me feel like I need to steal up and make some moves and I made some moves and I've got more moves coming and I'm going to win the championship.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Didn't you just straight away starting running back? Sony Michelle.

[Jason Moore]

I got other people back.

[Andy Holloway]

That's actually pretty funny because you need a starting running back.

[Jason Moore]

I got Alex Collins as well and I think Alex Collins.

[Andy Holloway]

How much of your cold stone creamery adventure left last night was related to baseball and how much was related to your fantasy team?

[Jason Moore]

50.

[Andy Holloway]

50. By the way, in case you're I brought up Jared Cook's 180 yard game. He's gone out to put up 49 yards and 31 yards.

[Jason Moore]

So that's what Jared Cook does.

[Andy Holloway]

I just want to point out Cook. I want to point out that that is what always happens.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

When people are freaking out. So without further ado, I think it's time to jump into the mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag. Mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

Feels like it's been too long.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But I mean Mike's voice was ready for it, so it's always ready. If you have a question, go to the website the fantasy footballers.com, click the submit a question button or dial our voicemail hotline. Jason, you can dial if you have a question. 302464 TFFB. Jason's like, what do I help me. All right. Voicemail question to kick it off.

[Caller]

Hey ballers, this is Matt from California. Thanks for listening to my question. Just like Jason, I'm 03 and currently looking forward to setting the world on fire with a 10 game win streak. Yes, I have Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson on my team. Obviously I want to start Patrick Mahomes, but my opponent next week will be starting Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins. Would it be in my best interest to start Watson over Mahomes because he'll be throwing to my opponents players. Thanks again and love the show.

[Jason Moore]

That only works against you.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't agree. I want to debate it at least. Okay, let's at least debate it. I don't think it only works against you. It's based on the other players on your roster. Yes, there's a situation if your opponent's entire wide receiver core and you can protect against that with Watson. I'm not, I don't think that's always a bad decision. If it's a one guy situation. I almost always say, don't worry about it. But Watson's a viable starting quarterback and your opponent, I mean, Mike, I would love to hear your thoughts because Jason was like vehemently against it.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I want to explain that thought. The reality is, so if the rest of your take all three of those players out of the equation, if your team matches up against his team and it looks like they're very, very even and fair and so then you're deciding between those two players, you can't beat him because the points that Will Fuller score and Deandre Hopps Hopkins. Hopkins score are more valuable. They get a point for every 10 yards. They get six points per touchdown. If your quarterback maybe only gets four points for touch for passing touchdowns, the wide receivers will outscore the quarterback in that situation. That's what I'm saying is that.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not saying you do it. I'm saying that you have to look at the matchup and see how the rest of your players do because it may be advantageous to wipe out his wide receiver core. And you basically will. Yes, they're a little bit more valuable, but Watson's not throwing 100% of his passes to those two guys. And there's a chance he throws a touchdown somewhere else.

[Mike Wright]

I would say 85% to those two guys. The Houston Texans are playing the Indianapolis Colts. Delightful, juicy, juicy matchup. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes on the road divisional matchup against the Broncos. Does that affect your decision at all, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

You know, it doesn't. I, I don't know how after three weeks you can fade bench Mahomes. Vegas has it as a 56 point over under.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, ultimately you're right there.

[Jason Moore]

I mean that's, I mean, I realized Denver is. We talked about this, right? Denver is the type of team that could maybe corral Mahomes, that could, that could make it not work. But we got the NBA Jam rule. He's now on fire. It's not heating up anymore. He was heating up after week two. He's on fire.

[Andy Holloway]

It seems like the best start here is Mahomes.

[Mike Wright]

If we were talking about maybe a tier that's not the S class that Patrick Mahomes is right now. Say you're. I'm going to play Philip Rivers or I have Cam Newton and Deshaun Watts, maybe then, okay, because he has the two Top pass catchers for the Texans. When it's one, it doesn't affect my thinking at all. But the two is. It's gotten. It's got me in there in the brain.

[Andy Holloway]

Keenan Allen has had two down weeks. Is he a trade target? Asks Phil in St. Petersburg. Would you go after him with someone like Marvin Jones?

[Mike Wright]

Jake and I'll trade you Marvin Jones for Keenan Allen.

[Jason Moore]

You can.

[Mike Wright]

I got you. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

He passed. Okay. Yeah, I think you do target Keenan Allen. No doubt. Eric and Rancho Santa Margarita. Amari Pooper cannot be trusted in his dumpster fire of a game. His value continues to plummet. Would you trade Cooper for LaShawn McCoy straight up if you need a running back. Yes, yes, yes.

[Mike Wright]

And that's not a. I want Lashawn McCoy.

[Andy Holloway]

I do think McCoy is an interesting target. Yes. With the production. Yeah. With the production that you saw from Ivory last week. Josh Allen moving the offense. Like I said, though I would look at it.

[Mike Wright]

Average starting position of the opponent's 40 yard line changes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, of course.

[Andy Holloway]

So does it improving defense with a new defensive play caller that gives him opportunity. I mean, McCoy has done nothing but be productive in crappy situations. When in Buffalo. That's all I'm saying.

[Jason Moore]

Not just in buffalo. I mean, McCoy has shown value with Peterman.

[Andy Holloway]

He put up 9.7 points in week two.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So there I think he is a target.

[Jason Moore]

And not only that, but to add to it. Yeah, I agree that he is. Look, Ravens, Chargers, Vikings, those were the first three weeks for the Bills. That's, you know, that we kind of knew that the Bills were going to have a rough start. Plus he was injured, so I don't know necessarily that Shady's great this week. I don't know that he plays this week because he's still dealing with the ribs, but I think you can buy him for nothing. People, I've seen people ask me questions of should I trade Shady for garbage. So just go find a couple guys you want to get rid of on your team that you're like, oh, I need to cut these guys and see if you can get Shady.

[Andy Holloway]

People want to cut Shady. All right. Chiefy in Dayton says Keelan Cole or Quincy and Nunois Cole.

[Jason Moore]

That's the rest of season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Cole.

[Mike Wright]

It's probably still Quincy for me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think I'm going to take the upside of Cole. I'm going to take the shot at having a top 15 type of wide receiver. Quincy can't do that. Quincy's safer.

[Mike Wright]

Agreed.

[Jason Moore]

But I'll take the shot At Cole.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Will, in Vancouver, would you trade James Conner for Dalvin Cook in a half point lead?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

No, man.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I would.

[Mike Wright]

Things are trending.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, there is better for James Conner, who's 100% agree.

[Mike Wright]

Who is actually playing football right now.

[Andy Holloway]

If I had depth at the position, I would. I think I'd rather have Cook. I'd rather have Cook. What do you guys think about. This is from Kahil in Kauai, Hawaii. Oh, I'm surprised I didn't get a bonjour. I'm just surprised you know that. What do you guys think about starting both Alex Collins and Buck Allen in your lineup? I don't have an eye mask. I mean, do you. Is there a way that you could, you can, you can, you cannot have sharp objects nearby.

[Jason Moore]

You can do this. Okay, now you can do it. You can do this.

[Mike Wright]

You can also jump out of an airplane with a squirrel suit on, Jason. Doesn't mean you should.

[Jason Moore]

I agree.

[Mike Wright]

Sometimes you live.

[Jason Moore]

My point is not that you should by any means, but when you live.

[Mike Wright]

It'S real, real fun. I've heard.

[Jason Moore]

My point is if you're deciding between people in that tier, just, you know, things on your bench, you're saying, okay, J.J. is back. Should I play Corey Clement or, you know, if you have to, or I'm going to not play them because they're both from the same team. If that's the situation you're in, I think you can start. Both of them should, you know, hopefully you have one great starting running back. And then you're deciding between Alex Collins and Javorius Allen. And it's Alex Collins.

[Andy Holloway]

Swim with the sharks or start Buck Allen and Alex Collins.

[Mike Wright]

Do I get a cage?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know how you feel about swimming with sharks. You get a cage.

[Jason Moore]

I feel negatively about swimming.

[Andy Holloway]

You're against it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, wait, with a cage?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you got a cage.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm still. I'm freaking out already. No way. Give me Alex Collins. Buck Allen.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Buck nasty.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, better than. I don't want to. I don't want a shark to bite my cage.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me ask you this.

[Jason Moore]

I would die via. No, no physical contact. And I would be dead.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're in, let's say, two situations here. You have to choose. You're in a. You're in a cage, the sharks are all swimming around you. Like you said, the thing that you're afraid of. Or you're in a spider proof cage.

[Jason Moore]

Give me the sharks. I'm swimming through the shark's mouth.

[Andy Holloway]

Even if the spiders can't get near you.

[Jason Moore]

I will do the. The shark opens his mouth for three seconds. You have to swim fast as you can to get through it. Give me that jaw.

[Andy Holloway]

Give me that jaw. All right, that is it. Look. We want to thank Sonos again for sponsoring today's show. And I want to remind you about the incredible Sonos Beam, the smart, compact sound bar for your tv. Like I said, it's awesome. We put one in our. Our master bedroom. The Sonos products are great to begin with, but this is their newest product, and it's awesome. Simple to set up, and if you don't even want to bother setting it up, Sonos will send out an expert to set it up for you for free, which is pretty awesome. And it's just an absolutely great product. The sound fills the room. You hear all the voices the right way. You hear the music the right way. Everything's great about it. And you can order from sonos.com right now and set. They'll set it up for you if you select the up and running at checkout, if you qualify. So again, sonos.com to check out the Sonos Beam. You guys have any final thoughts, shark related or otherwise?

[Jason Moore]

I hate spiders so much. That's all I got. Hey, if you're gonna play some DFS this week, which you should play with us, go to draft.comballers.

[Mike Wright]

We'Ll see you tomorrow.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot. Com and follow us on twitter @the ffballers.