Tyreek News + Head to Head Mock Draft

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: "Tyreek News + Head to Head Mock Draft"

Release Date: July 20, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Episode Title: Tyreek News + Head to Head Mock Draft

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Introduction

In this episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway and Mike Wright dive into critical updates surrounding Tyreek Hill and engage in a spirited head-to-head half-point PPR mock draft. The episode provides listeners with in-depth analysis of current NFL developments and practical draft strategies to enhance their fantasy football teams.

Tyreek Hill News and Fantasy Implications

The episode kicks off with breaking news regarding Tyreek Hill, the star wide receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs. The NFL has decided not to suspend Hill following an extensive investigation into allegations of child abuse, a decision that has sent shockwaves through the fantasy football community.

Andy Holloway articulates the gravity of the situation:

"This is an extremely polarizing situation. ... We just give you the facts and head off from there. So to me you're talking low probability now that Tyreek Hill will receive any type of suspension."
[04:48]

Mike Wright adds his perspective, emphasizing the uncertainty and low likelihood of further consequences:

"I feel very uneducated to be able to really answer this question. ... As of now, you got to feel like that's a low percentage chance that something else is going to surface because the two people closest involved in the situation, Tyreek Hill and his fiance, they don't want to talk about anything."
[04:48]

The hosts discuss the immediate fantasy implications for Tyreek Hill, noting that despite the absence of a suspension, Hill's situation may affect his availability and performance. Andy reflects on Hill’s past performance and questions whether his full return will restore his fantasy value:

"Tyreek was an absolute fantasy star last year. ... What is the risk that is out there for Tyreek Hill as it pertains to his availability this year?"
[12:33]

Fantasy Footballers’ Analysis:

• Balancing the Roster: With Hill's status uncertain, managing the Chiefs' wide receivers becomes more complex. Andy and Mike discuss the potential need to adjust rankings and projections for other Chiefs players like Sammy Watkins and Mikole Hardman.
• Impact on Travis Kelsey: They also explore whether Hill’s absence would impact Travis Kelsey's performance, concluding that Kelsey remains a top-tier tight end irrespective of Hill’s status.

Key Takeaways:

• Tyreek Hill remains a high-risk, high-reward player for fantasy managers.
• Andy and Mike advocate for cautious optimism, suggesting that Hill is likely to return without suspension but advising flexibility in draft strategies to accommodate possible changes.

Head-to-Head Half-Point PPR Mock Draft

Following the Tyreek Hill segment, Andy and Mike transition into a live head-to-head half-point PPR mock draft. This segment showcases their drafting philosophies, strategic decisions, and real-time adjustments as they build their fantasy teams.

Draft Setup

• League Format: 12-team, half-point PPR
• Draft Order: Determined by Brooks, resulting in Andy having the 11th pick and Mike the 7th pick.
• Platform: Sleeper

Mock Draft Highlights

1. Early Rounds:

   • Andy starts by prioritizing elite running backs, selecting Dalvin Cook at the 111th pick, believing in Cook’s upside despite concerns about the Chiefs' offense dynamics.
   • Mike leans towards wide receivers early, opting for Devonta Adams in the 7th round, followed by Odell Beckham Jr. and Stefaan Diggs, aiming to build a robust receiving corps.

   Mike: "I'm going with Devonte Adams at the seventh pick and we'll see what happens with my team starting with wide receiver."
   [20:08]

   Andy: "I'm going to take Dalvin Cook at 111."
   [17:07]

2. Mid Rounds:

   • Andy faces tough decisions between securing another running back or diversifying his roster with wide receivers. He ultimately prioritizes running backs, selecting Todd Gurley to strengthen his backfield.
   • Mike continues to load up on wide receivers, focusing on high-upside players like Julio Jones and later securing DeSean Jackson and Marquez Valdez.

   Andy: "I think I like Cook more than Connor. So Dalvin Cook off the board."
   [22:23]

   Mike: "I have Devonte Adams, Odell Beckham Jr., Stefan Diggs as my starters, and then Curtis Samuel as the potential breakout guy."
   [25:25]

3. Late Rounds and Final Picks:

   • Andy bolsters his roster with wide receivers like Marvin Jones and AJ Green, ensuring depth and potential breakout candidates.
   • Mike fills out his team with running backs and secures quarterback spots, opting for Lamar Miller and Curtis Samuel to complement his strong wide receiver lineup.

   Andy: "I am going to take Sean Watson as my QB."
   [36:10]

   Mike: "I'm going to take Lamar Miller as my running back."
   [36:12]

Notable Strategies and Decisions:

• Andy’s Running Back Priority: Andy emphasizes securing high-value running backs early to anchor his team, reflecting a traditional draft strategy focusing on RB strength.

• Mike’s Wide Receiver Focus: Mike opts to build a formidable receiving group first, banking on consistent high performance from elite receivers to maximize PPR scoring benefits.

• Risk Management: Both hosts illustrate the importance of balancing reliable starters with high-upside players to navigate potential injuries and performance fluctuations.

Key Quotes:

Andy: "I'm going to commit to the running back position, which means deciding in my mind between Mixon, Cook and Gurley."
[21:33]

Mike: "Devonte Adams, Odell Beckham Jr. Stefan Diggs as my starters, and then Curtis Samuel as the potential breakout guy."
[25:25]

Post-Draft Analysis

After concluding the mock draft, Andy and Mike analyze their respective teams, highlighting strengths and potential vulnerabilities.

Andy’s Team:

• Strengths: Strong running back lineup with Dalvin Cook and Todd Gurley, complemented by versatile wide receivers like Marvin Jones and AJ Green.
• Weaknesses: Limited depth in the wide receiver position, relying heavily on breakout candidates like Julian Edelman and DeSean Jackson.

Mike’s Team:

• Strengths: Elite wide receivers including Devonte Adams, Odell Beckham Jr., and Stefan Diggs provide a reliable and high-scoring receiving core.
• Weaknesses: Running back depth is thinner, depending on occasional performances from Lamar Miller and potential breakout runs from players like Devonta Freeman.

Quotes:

Andy: "Josh Allen is a QB1 this season. I feel great about drafting him there."
[54:32]

Mike: "Devonta Freeman locked and loaded. ... between Lamar Miller, Miles Sanders, Tevin Coleman and Adrian Peterson, I believe that I can get a second running back in there on a weekly basis."
[56:53]

Conclusion

The episode culminates with the hosts reflecting on their draft strategies and the teams they've assembled. They acknowledge the inherent risks and rewards of their choices, emphasizing the importance of flexibility and waiver wire management throughout the season. Andy and Mike wrap up by teasing upcoming episodes focused on divisional breakdowns, promising continued expert insights for fantasy football enthusiasts.

Final Thoughts

This episode offers valuable insights into handling unforeseen NFL developments, exemplified by the Tyreek Hill situation, and demonstrates effective mock drafting techniques. Whether you're a seasoned fantasy manager or a newcomer, the discussions provide actionable strategies to navigate draft day and optimize your team for success.

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Transcript

[A]

Hey, Foot Clan. We have a great mock draft episode today and we're also going to be covering the Tyreek Hill news and all of its fantasy implications. We've updated our rankings on the Ultimate Draft kit. You can go check that out@ ultimatedraftkit.com you get all the player profiles, videos, projected stats and so much more, including a brand new mobile app for 2019. Check it out at ultimate draftkit.com hey, this is Corey from San Antonio, Texas coming from the hiring league of record and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers podcast.

[B]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[A]

Welcome in. Got a great show today.

[B]

I've got my game face. Ow.

[A]

You give me the stare down, the grimace, the growl, the.

[B]

I call this the growl. Growl.

[A]

I guess I'm being slightly intimidated both by your look and the glance of Jay Grizz.

[B]

Quick, quick. Who's harrier?

[A]

Who's harrier?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Jason or J. Griz.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's tough. Where?

[B]

On top of the head.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Jake Grizz.

[B]

Got it. Yeah. Get bodied on vacation.

[A]

Yes. Jason is out today. But don't worry, Foot Clan, it's good news for you.

[B]

It's the best news you've had all day.

[A]

We are doing a head to head mano a mano mock draft on the show. Mike and I are taking each other on. Brooks figured out our draft spots. It's a 12 team draft. We're doing that on the show shortly. It's going to be great. You guys can vote on who you think. Well, I mean, easy vote, but yeah, you can vote for Mike or myself. And we're going to have some fun. It's been a little while since we did a live mock draft, so that'll happen live on the show today. Couple of reminders as we kick things off. You can find us over on YouTube. YouTube.com that's where you see the growl, the fantasy footballers. Yeah, it was. It was weird. Mike, I can't say I was scared of you. I was a little confused a little bit. If you're confused, I thought maybe you needed medicine.

[B]

If you're confused, you're tilting at least slightly.

[A]

Oh, it's get in the head.

[B]

Mission accomplished.

[A]

Get in the head of your opponent. What's cool is if you do watch the show, which some of you do on YouTube, you can see the draft board as the draft takes place. Judge Giamatti does a good job of working that into the video. So you can follow along, see what picks we made, see who we passed on. You can find us on twitter@the ffballers and the community is jointhefoot.com this show, I mean, we've got two things to talk about. We've got the mock draft that's coming, but then we've got the big news that we have to break down, and that is that the NFL is not planning to suspend chief star wide receiver Tyreek Hill following its thorough investigation into allegations of child abuse. This smacked every analyst in the face when it broke yesterday, myself included. I had Tyree Kill in several leagues last year, several keeper leagues. I didn't keep him in any of them. Those deadlines have come and gone. I lost Tyree Kill. He's gone now. He's back now. He's going to play now. Speculation about Watkins and Hardman and the offense, it's done. So we're going to break down. We can break down each of those players. It's just a really confusing situation because as far as the sources that I listen to, the sources that have been talking in circles around the Kansas City Chiefs organization, this, the team didn't expect this to happen. The team expected, hey, maybe we're going to. Maybe it'll be four games now. And this was according to rap. She will give you the actual report if you haven't followed anything from yesterday, he said. During its investigation, NFL spoke with multiple people on both sides of the allegations into the Chiefs wide receiver, including Hill. They did not get to talk to his fiance, Crystal Espinal. She didn't make herself available. It is completely closed as of now, not suspended. The Chiefs came out and said they're welcoming him back with open arms. What is the risk that is out there for Tyree Kill as it pertains to his availability this year?

[B]

I feel very uneducated to be able to really answer this question. But what we, the facts that we do know as far as a criminal case that's closed, it is out of their hands. The NFL did cover themselves, saying if new information comes up, they're going to be quick to react to that information. But as of now, you got to feel like that's a low percentage chance that something else is going to surface because the two people closest involved in the situation, Tyreek Hill and his fiance, they don't want to talk about anything. And if they're not willing to talk about anything, there's just, we don't know what happened. This is an extremely polarizing situation. When I tweeted about all All I tweeted, I retweeted Rapoports. Breaking the news with just emphasizing Tyreek Hill is going to play no suspension. And the Twitter community is. You get answers from good. You know, good he is not exonerated, but good. There was no evidence. So there's. You can't do anything to somebody without evidence. To the people who are this is an absolute disgrace. Then they're really upset about it. Our, our job is to not necessarily comments on that. We just give you the facts and head off from there. So to me you're talking low probability now that Tyreeks Hill will receive any type of suspension. The Chiefs will eventually resign him. They're going to wait till the PR hullabaloo dies down.

[A]

Firestorm.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. So maybe halfway through the season they're talking it he's in the last year.

[A]

Of his rookie deal.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe they even wait until the season is completed. Not completely sure on that.

[A]

It's difficult because it's compounded by the fact that there's a history with the player.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

If it was just like a one off situation. Look, I don't want people tried in the court of Twitter. I don't want people tried in the court of speculation. So I'm thankful that you know, ground sweat look, it's not a good look for the NFL. The good look for the NFL. To me the easy path for the NFL is the suspension and consequence side. So we don't know anything. We don't know the details. None of us do. All we can do is talk fantasy. It's a fantasy show.

[B]

Just us. Nobody. Yeah, there are two people who know what happened and they're not talking about it.

[A]

So ultimately my thoughts and prayers are with the child. That the child is safe, that the Kansas Department for Children and Families protects the child and that if there is consequences to be had that they come out. If not, then you know, he doesn't deserve to be punished for something he didn't do. And we move on. Fantasy wise. We've updated the ultimate draft kit. We've updated our projections for the Chiefs. You know, a lot of this off season was spent talking about the upside of Mikole Hardman, second round draft pick that they invested in the upside of Sammy Watkins, a player who has flashed at times but not been available at times. Now we have to take a fresh look at the Chiefs. Mike, how are you looking at the projection of Tyreek Hill? This was a player that in certain formats was the number one overall fantasy wide receiver. I think for a Lot of experts. He's going to be number one on their board as of today.

[B]

Yeah, I think I may have him lower than what the consensus actually ends up. And we'll see. The ultimate draft kit rankings are very fluid. He came in with my initial projections at number six, so I know Jason.

[A]

Has him at four. Jason's not here.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I have him at five.

[B]

So he.

[A]

We all. We all have what, Hopkins ahead of him?

[B]

I was going to say that what I consider to be the big four of the wide receiver position. Adams, Julio, Hopkins, and Beckham. I still have Beckham in that. In that top tier. I don't think. I assume that Jason is the one who has Beckham behind Tyree Kill.

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense. Those are the four I have ahead of Tyreek. But I put Tyreek in. I would put him in tier one with those.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

With those four guys.

[B]

And the one. The one other name that I didn't mention, who's ahead of Tyreek Hill, for me still is Juju. But it's. They're all. When it comes to fantasy football, I think all five of the. Or all six of those players are going to be elite options.

[A]

Yeah. The fact of the matter is Tyreek was an absolute fantasy star last year. 12 touchdowns. What was it, over 1400 yards receiving?

[B]

Yeah, nearly 1500.

[A]

And this offense now you take away one more variable for Mahomes production. At the end of the day, though, we don't expect Mahomes to be able to go out and throw 50 touchdowns every season. So does it hurt Kelsey? There are a lot of people out there who have Kelsey maybe even higher statistically on the expectation he was going to get four to six weeks of being the main man. You don't think it affects him?

[B]

Well, last year, Travis Kelsey put up over 1300 yards and 10 touchdowns in a full season with Tyree Kill. Yeah, no, I don't think it affects him. I didn't even really modify Travis Kelsey's projections because he was. I have him producing nearly what he did last year with just a little bit of regression. I mean, he's. He's still number one. He is still the tier one tight end, in my opinion, with. With Ertz. Erz is the number two tight end, but he's still not in the same tier as Travis Kelsey. I don't. I don't think it affects Travis Kelsey at all.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, basically, if you look at my projections, the Chiefs are not projected to do what they did last year. That's the number one thing. And if you went and looked at the game log of Patrick Mahomes over the course of the season. His averages, the ones that we're talking about being outlandish. No player ever repeats 50 touchdowns. No player ever repeats seasons like that, no matter how good you are. It slowed down towards the end of the year. He wasn't throwing 330 a game necessarily. It was like 291 over his last certain amount of weeks. It slowed down a little bit. You started to see a little bit of pullback on Mahomes.

[B]

Well, you also start seeing teams actually have film on Mahomes. He's. He's fantastic. You can't. You can't stop him, but you can start planning. You can have a smarter plan of how you're going to try and slow him down.

[A]

Still think they'll be the best offense in football. I think that these players will have great production. You have to now talk about, you know, Sammy Watkins doesn't represent the kind of upside anymore. Miko Hardman, we pulled him from our sleeper list because the opportunity is simply not going to be what it would have been without Tyree Kill.

[B]

Miko Hardman, to me, was a player that was not going to really have to earn a starting job. He was just going to be thrust into it. And if like, look what the Chiefs did in the draft. They didn't have a first round and they spent. They traded up in the second to get Miko Harmon. They clearly thought they were not going to have Tyreek.

[A]

They were with us. They knew that the odds of having Tyreek back were low because the what.

[B]

The Kansas City Chiefs needed, they needed to draft defensive players. They didn't want to have to spend high draft capital replacing a wide receiver. They felt backed into a corner and they went out and made that move. So now instead of just kind of walking his way into a starting job, now he's. Now he has to fight to get on the field.

[A]

He's going to be the kind of player in year one that catches 30 to 40 passes.

[B]

Agreed.

[A]

And a handful of them are going to be for 96 yards and a touchdown because he's a burner. He's going to get loose. He's not going to be a focal point of the offense because you're going to have Damian Williams, Tyree Kill, Sammy Watkins, Travis kelsey and maybe DeMarcus Robinson ahead of him in the pecking order. So Hardman, unfortunately not. Not a startable asset.

[B]

No.

[A]

By any stretch of the imagination.

[B]

No. But goodness, man, next season, once me Cole is acclimated to the NFL and this offense is Mahomes, presumably an extended Tyree kill, potentially. Watkins and me, Cole. Good luck.

[A]

Oh, yeah, good luck. Yeah. I mean, it gives the Chiefs leverage in the contractual negotiations to have drafted me, Cole, at that level.

[B]

I guess a little bit. It might.

[A]

Yeah, it does because they have. They have a little bit of depth at the position. You're not trying to tell Tyreek, oh, we're fine with Chris Conley, DeMarcus Robinson? No. So any other Brooks, Is there anything else that's like on the forefront of listeners minds as it pertains to Tyreek Hill? I mean, they can go, they can look at the rankings on the website, but as far as question marks, think.

[B]

You guys covered it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Where did. Where is Sammy now currently for you? I have him at 34, which might. It might be a tad too low, but I think he's now that fringe, you know, three with upside on a weekly basis.

[A]

I'm trying to figure out where he is in our consensus. He's at 36 in our consensus.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I don't have mine right up in front of me, but he's got to be in that range.

[B]

Yeah, I would imagine.

[A]

I imagine I'm the lowest.

[B]

I would imagine. And I would imagine Jason is still.

[A]

I have. Oh, yeah, I've got him. You don't want to know where I got him. You don't know. You don't want to know. You want to know where I have him?

[B]

55.

[A]

I was a little shocked. Look, when we go in and do our projections, we go in and put stat lines.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm putting stat lines for all these players. I'm putting DeMarcus Robinson, you know, say what you will about him, he scored four times last year. He was on the field, 30 something receptions. I just scattered him out. I don't think Watkins plays the full season. I just don't believe in it.

[B]

It's a fair thing to say.

[A]

So how do I draft him to play a full season? Yeah, he's done it one time so far. Yeah. Full season. Yeah. Yeah. That's not a lot. That's not a lot. Okay, we're moving on. A reminder again, check out all of. We updated the. We're going to update the Tyree Kill. Put a Tyree Kill video into the ultimate draft kit. We pulled the Sammy Watkins video. We'll redo that one with the context that we have now. That's one of the things we do. We update all of the content. No matter what time of year, keep it up to date, but we're going to get into this mock draft.

[B]

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[A]

Thank you for the energy that you brought to the back of the drop, Mike. It's a head to head. We haven't done this this season. I had a head to head with Jason earlier in the year when you were out, but Mano emano thinking about.

[B]

It now, I mean, I guess it would mess up the mock draft, but it would have been a nice to get Jay Grizz in there because we know that he would just draft bears, select all the bears.

[A]

Yeah, trubisky in the first. We've seen him before. Okay, 12 team, half point per reception draft. Brooks figured out our spots and, well, Mike ended up at 107.

[B]

I don't like to be at 107.

[A]

And then I'm at. I'm at 111. So I got the 11th pick in the draft. Snake draft, half point league. I cut the bench size down a spot so there's four bench just for time so we can spend some more time talking about our picks. All right, a lot of you out there. I will say this momentarily before we kick the draft off. A lot of you out there. We'll do mock drafts a handful of times in the offseason. They're fun episodes. A lot of times we do them as a team. The three of us will pick for one team so we can break down and analyze things. And sometimes people want us to always have our own team. We try to balance that out. You guys need to understand, if we have three people with three teams and you've got to draft 15 spots, 16 spots, that is a long time. And we don't get as much time when we're drafting individual teams to talk about the thought process and decision making, which is the point. We're not mock drafting just to get this thing done. We want to, you know, help bring to light how we draft, how we think about it. So it helps you and you can go mock draft. We always say it's one of the best things you can do. So in a head to head situation, we get to do that a little bit more. So Here we go. 12 team draft number one overall, Saquon Barkley. Number two, Alvin Camara. McCaffrey went three. Zeke four. David Johnson, five left Bell, six. Six running backs off the board. And here Mike is on the clock. It's your turn to talk, your turn to pick.

[B]

So this is unfortunate because when I'm normally when I'm at 7, I'm hoping that somebody has decided to take the wide receiver and David Johnson is going to drop. To me, that didn't happen. The other mock drafters went all running back. So now I am staring down a decision of only three players. So I have it narrowed down. It's Melvin Gordon. Do I choose to accept the risk that Melvin Gordon goes full levy on Bell and I've set my first pick on fire and thrown it into the dumpster. My backup running back option would be James Conner because I firmly believe that James Conner is going to be a fantastic running back one this season, but those guys are not the top of their position. So if I'm looking at wide receiver, it's Devonte Adams right here because he's my number one guy. I don't even need to consider the number two wide receiver because I have my pick of the litter. So to Speak.

[A]

Is that where you're leaning right now then? Are you going to go wide receiver?

[B]

I am leaning going with Devonte Adams. This would normally be an auto Melvin Gordon pick for me.

[A]

So is this a revealing moment for the fantasy footballers podcast that it could be that, you know, Jason and I have spent most of the time talking about our expectations for Gordon. Here you are on the clock. I'm scared you've got butterflies in your stomach.

[B]

Yes, I'm more on the side.

[A]

I would take Gordon here.

[B]

I'm more on the side of Jason that I am concerned that Melvin Gordon is going to, as the Jacksonville Jaguars lady said, take it to the limit.

[A]

Complicate our fantasy football lives and well, you got to make the pick, my friend.

[B]

Just for the experiment of the draft as well. I'm going to go with Devonte Adams at the seventh pick and we'll see what happens with my team starting with wide receiver. Even though Gordon was there, well, there.

[A]

Was a hope in my heart that Gordon would drop that Gordon would drop to 11 because of the tumult that was cut immediately. Did not happen. Devonte Adams. Mike, you took him at seven. Gordon went eight and then DeAndre Hopkins and Michael Thomas go nine and ten. This is a tough place to be on the board. I don't believe in James Connor. I don't believe that he belongs at 111. I believe he will be a top 15 guy, not a top 10 guy. So I don't really want to take him here. This is where you have to start staring down horrible, horrible decisions about players like Todd Gurley. I love Dalvin Cook. Could I, could I take Dalvin cook here at 111? Joe Mixon is on the board as well. Wide receivers on the board. Julio, who I absolutely love. I think Julio has as good as.

[B]

He still your number one guy.

[A]

Hopkins is still my number one guy. I think Julio has every chance to be that this year. Julio and Beckham are there, but so are Juju Tyree Kill Antonio Brown and.

[B]

Just a reminder for the listeners, you are 11 so you are. You're basically right on the turn. There will only be two players in.

[A]

Between your and this is tough because I want a running back and I.

[B]

Know James Conner is there, man. He's there for your pleasure.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, he is. So is Todd Gurley. I know I'm going to get a great wide receiver on the way back and I don't look, I could go Julio Jones here and probably grab Tyreek Hill and start with Julio and Tyreek Hill on this team. Maybe that's the experiment worth taking and see what happens at the running back position later on. But I can almost see the future Mike and the future, my future at running back. If I do that, it's going to end up being, it's going to end up being rookies.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It's going to be. End up being Josh Jacobs and David Montgomery or something. And I don't want to start another draft that way. So I'm going to commit to the running back position, which means deciding in my mind between Mixon, Cook and Gurley. And in this draft, I'm going to take Dalvin Cook at 111.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Goodness.

[A]

I'm gonna make him a first round pick. I'm gonna, I'm gonna put the crown on his head. I believe that Dalvin Cook is gonna have a monster year. I would be very happy. I think we've, we've probably had enough James Conner water bets so we don't have to go there. But.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But I think I like Cook more than Connor. So Dalvin Cook off the board. Julio goes next. Mixon goes next. Guess who's sitting there at 202.

[B]

Odell Beckham.

[A]

Yeah. Odell Beckham Jr. Juju Smith, Schuster, but also Todd Gurley. I could take the shot on the combination, but I've got a really, really long wait at the wide receiver position.

[B]

Tilting with the second pick.

[A]

I'm gonna take Todd Gurley for the first time this offseason.

[B]

Tilting with the second pick. Oh, I almost got Connor.

[A]

I'm going Cook and Gurley back to back. Now you have an interesting situation.

[B]

This is ridiculous.

[A]

You have to stare down Tyreek Hill in this draft. And the fact of the matter is, and this is full disclosure, adps, which is what the, the other teams are drafting based on. It's not just they're not drafting by adp, they're drafting by their team, their formation and some algorithms that figure that out. And by the way, we're drafting on Sleeper.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Which is where we do all our mock drafts. Their system's great. But in, in about eight hours, they didn't update every. Everybody's not drafting Tyree Kill at the top. So the truth of the matter is, you know, Tyreek might have gone already in an ordinary draft. So are you willing to go. I went running back. Running back. Are you willing to go wide receiver, wide receiver here and go Devonte Adams and Tyree Kill.

[B]

Here's the problem. There is, there's, there's still another wide receiver.

[A]

There's also Odell Beckham.

[B]

Odell Beckham is on the board. He has thrown a giant, giant problem at me.

[A]

Let me read the other picks. By the way, after I picked Gurley, it went juju. Nick Chubb, James Conner. Yes, because you would have loved Connor to drop one more.

[B]

Oh, that would, that would have been an easy auto selection for me. I, I really thought I was going to be looking at either going Travis Kelsey or Damian Williams, just taking the best available of those two.

[A]

I don't know how you don't take.

[B]

A wide receiver here and then just playing the room. And because it's a head to head competition, I was going to end up with Tyree Kill as my third pick, which was going to be pretty awesome. So I guess I'm committing to zero running back because I don't know how I pass Odell Beckham and have two of my top four wide receivers. And then Tyree Kill, which will mean I have three top six wide receivers.

[A]

And for the integrity of the draft. Oh, come on. For the integrity of the draft. Boom. I have paused the draft and I'm going to manually select Tyreek Hill in this draft. This man, you know that's the right decision here for you. That's right.

[B]

But me having Devonte Adams, Beckham and Tyree Kill to start a draft is pretty awesome.

[A]

Yeah. Well, I wanted you to make a proper decision there between Tyreek Hill and your other pick. But we're going to let Tyree Kill go off the board where he should.

[B]

Fine.

[A]

He's not going to 210. It could go to 210.

[B]

He'll go before that. But fine.

[A]

Yeah, he will go before that. So sorry, Mike.

[B]

I feel like we should have thrown this one to the judge who would have clearly ruled in my favor.

[A]

Let's find out. Brooks, do you feel like that was the right call? That's fine. Way to be Switzerland.

[B]

Fine.

[A]

Way to be Switzerland.

[B]

Very judicial.

[A]

I'm tempted to throw it to Al Borland. I rarely have to do that. Brooks, but you're not pulling your weight on being decisive. Okay, so Mike, you went with Beckham. So we went completely opposite philosophies. You have Adams and Beckham. I have cooking Gurley. Aaron Jones went next. Antonio Brown, Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill. Do you think Tyreek will go ahead of Kelsey in almost every draft?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. Mike Evans, Ty Hilton to finish out the round. Fournette in the third, Damian Williams in the third. So you have three Chiefs going in a five pick span. Adam Thielen, Amari Cooper off The board, Marlon Mack, George Kittle and Mike, you're back on the clock. Talk about where your team is at. Talk about your decision making process.

[B]

So the starting with Devonte Adams and Odell Beckham is. I mean, I didn't envision it. No, I did not envision that at all. But I'm extremely happy with it because the best part of the third round and for players who are starting wide receiver, wide receiver. There's a guy who was still in my top 12 at the running back position and people are scared of him. I completely understand if it's ad nauseam for me this offseason, but devonte Freeman becomes an easy pick for me here because he is firmly entrenched in my running back one area as a. Not a tier one, maybe a tier three type of running back, but the fact that I start with two elite wide receivers and still a great running back option. My draft is off to a hot start.

[A]

So you're obviously. Maybe it makes the question moot, but devonte Freeman will be your one.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

On your roster you have Adams and Beckham, which make leaning on Freeman as your one a little bit easier to bear. But with Freeman specifically, so that we can get into it on a player by player basis, are you going to be looking later in the draft to kind of protect yourself at running back Edo? Well, not necessarily with Ito. Just, just maybe overemphasize the running back because of you starting in the third round.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And because of Freeman's injury history.

[B]

Yes. It gives me great freedom on the way back here in the fourth round. It wouldn't surprise me if I end up going with another wide receiver like Julian Edelman or somebody. Unless you end up taking him. But that will afford me a tremendous luxury of just grabbing as many shots at starting running backs as I can and hoping that one or maybe two of them hit.

[A]

All right. After you selected Devonta Freeman as your third pick, Kerryon Johnson and Derek Henry went next. Patrick Mahomes at 3:10, first quarterback off the board. Here I am on the clock considerations for me, you know, I have Dalvin Cook and Todd Gurley. My running backs, my starters, they're figured out. I'm going to have to think about Darrell Henderson later in this draft and what I want to do to protect my Gurley situation, but I think I'm going to address it right now. I get two picks within four. There are two. There are two wide receivers I love here. Really? There's more than two. There's three. I like Keenan Allen, I like A.J. green, and I like Julian Edelman a lot. I know that most assuredly I'm going to get one of those three guys if I pass on a wide receiver here. I have the opportunity now to take Josh Jacobs in the third round. He would be my starting flex. He would also be protection against anything that went sideways on Gurley. I will have a triple stack of running backs.

[B]

I think that's the right move.

[A]

I want to try it out. I want to give that a go. I'm taking Josh Jacobs. Unfortunately for me.

[B]

Unfortunately for me. Because now Julian Edelman will not drop.

[A]

Yeah. AJ Green and Keenan Allen went next. I was just AJ Green in the fourth round.

[B]

This team 12 can eat a butt.

[A]

They're killing me, their team.

[B]

I do not appreciate them.

[A]

Yeah, and you insulted them in a really, really mean way.

[B]

Well, I went as crude as I could, but A.J.

[A]

Green and Keenan Allen, the idea of getting A.J. green in the fourth round, which is happening in a lot of fantasy drafts, it just seems like stealing.

[B]

Yeah, it's wild.

[A]

People are dissuaded from A.J. green. You know, say what you will about that offense, I just think A.J. green's too darn good. I mean, there are teams, there are defensive backs in this league that just can't cover a guy like that.

[B]

It's just injury for A.J. green. No matter the ups and downs of the Cincinnati Bengal offense, AJ Green has always been great.

[A]

So now I have to make a decision here. Am I comfortable in a league half point per reception of making Julian Edelman my wide receiver one, because I went three running backs. We're very high on Julian Edelman. I think he's just going to be peppered with targets all year long. He's the guy. When he came back last season, he was absolutely, you know, Tom Brady. Tom Brady lives in the intermediate routes. That's where he's going to be.

[B]

He was the wide receiver eight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Across all the games that he played.

[A]

So he's not going to drop to you, Mike. He will be my pick here. I'm going to take him over Diggs, take him over Cooks, and we'll see what wide receivers come back to me. But Montgomery, Lindsey and Ertz off the board. Ertz is somebody that I think some people would have been like, well, are you thinking about Zach Ertz there? I wasn't.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I'm. Of all the. Of the top tier tight ends that could regress. Zach Ertz is at the top of the list. That offense.

[B]

Look, that's interesting given how much you love the Eagles. And that's why.

[A]

That's why you shouldn't be. Look, if Zach Ertz is guaranteed to repeat his. What did he beat? He beat his target total in his career by 40 plus.

[B]

He also beat the most targets of all time to the tight end position.

[A]

Yeah. Over 150 targets. Yeah. It's just not going to happen again. And I. Look, Jason can like ring the bell for Dallas Goddard. Goddard is a really, really good player.

[B]

Yes, he is.

[A]

And then you get to say names like Alshon, Jeffrey, desean, Jackson, Jordan Howard, Miles Sanders, Nelson, Aguilar, Arcega, Whiteside. There's just a lot of names in the fold there. So I think Ertz is great, but you're just not going to have a season like that from him again. So I didn't want to go tight end and be looking for wide receivers in the fifth and sixth round to start my draft. So your team looks great. Mike Montgomery, Lindsey Ertz, your pick right now here at 406.

[B]

So the wide receiver that you passed on, he is still up there near my wide receiver one area. In fact, he is my wide receiver 11. So to start a draft, who did I pass on? You passed on Stefan Diggs.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I would, I would have taken Edelman over Diggs personally. And that might be kind of a hot take out there, which I have.

[A]

You did it too.

[B]

But the fact that I have Devonte, Adams and Beckham, I can kind of deal with the streakiness of Diggs, especially considering he is my. He will be my flex play. But a very, very high upside flex play on a weekly basis. And the running backs are into the situation now where it's one. One of the. One of these guys in this bucket. Perfectly fine.

[A]

Are you going. Would you have taken David Montgomery here if he was on the board over Stefan Diggs?

[B]

I. It would have been a lot harder decision. I had already mentally moved past him because he wasn't there. So he's not in the thought process. But yeah, it would have been much more difficult decision if the opportunity man was available.

[A]

All right, you took Stefan Diggs. So I went three running backs out of my first four. You went three wide outs out of your first four half point per reception league. Your team right now, as it stands as Adams, Beckham, Freeman and Diggs. My team is Cook, Gurley, Jacobs and Edelman. After your selection of Stefan Diggs went Sony Michelle, Drake Ingram, Golladay Woods, Calvin Ridley, Brandon Cooks, Andrew Luck, the second quarterback off the board in this draft, Chris Godwin, Chris Carson, Mike Williams, Tyler Lockett, and here we are, Mike, you're on the clock again and holy crap.

[B]

The running backs are disgusting.

[A]

I think I realized I really don't like drafting at 111. The wait is so long. It's just, it's fun for a second. But every time I took the chance like I took Cook hoping maybe Julio would flip back. I took Jacobs hoping maybe Green or Allen would come back. It hasn't worked out. Mike, what are your. You got to get a running back here.

[B]

Yeah, I'm going to go with a running back. I've. I've considered. I was thinking about do I go with the tight end? But we still have O.J. howard, Hunter Henry, Evan Ingram, which Ingram is my favorite of those three. But they're all, you know, in a very, very similar tier. So there's, there is a chance that one of those guys comes back to me if I'm looking to pull the, pull the trigger on the early tight end. But like you said, the running back position is thinning out rapidly. It's already pretty disgusting. So the the top of there of sleepers remaining. ADP Tevin Coleman, Tariq Cohen, Lamar Miller, James White. I'm assuming that you and Jason would be looking strongly at James White here. I think he is. For me he's a massive regression candidate and it's, it's a jagged little pill that you got to swallow every time you draft this player. But he's the starting running back for a very high powered offense and thankfully I don't have Hopkins, so that makes the decision a little bit easier because then I don't have to go all in on the Texans offense.

[A]

You're reminding me of the last time I drafted against Jason.

[B]

Right. So I'm going to take Lamar Miller as my running back to but with Adams, Beckham, Stefan Diggs as my three horsemen of destruction. It makes have. Makes that jagged little pill go down a little bit easier. They're my spoonful of sugar.

[A]

Where do you speak on your rankings? Where do you have to. Sean Watson. What number is he at your quarterback?

[B]

Deshaun Watson is my QB. 5.

[A]

Okay, so he wasn't in a tier here where you would have said 507. He wasn't your number one guy. Like I think he's number one on Jason's board at the quarterback position or number two.

[B]

He would be. I would say number two. But no, in just the way that this team is built, I would prefer to go in on an early tight end than an early quarterback. I'm more than likely going to Be waiting until the absolute very back of the draft to get a qb.

[A]

Okay, so who are you taking here?

[B]

I took Lamar Miller.

[A]

Did you select him?

[B]

I did.

[A]

Okay, well there we go. All right, so you took Lamar Miller, Tyler Boyd to Sean Watson. Yep. AJ Moore at the quarterback position. Aaron Rodgers is the last remaining tier 2 guy. It's kind of like luck. Watson, Rogers back behind Patrick Mahomes. I'm sitting here at 511. My team right now is Cook, Gurley, Jacobs and Edelman at 5:11. I need to. I was looking at the wide receiver position and there was one player that I said if he got back to me at 5:11 I would look at taking him here. Otherwise I was going to think about Aaron Rodgers, I was going to think about a tight end because I've got the quick turn and I didn't feel like there were any wide receivers in the same tier. But that player was Cooper Cup. Now I'm in a tough position with Cooper cup because he's coming off an ACL injury and I have Tad Gurley on this roster and I don't know how I feel about drafting both injured players on the Rams cup was the one that I would hope would make it through. I could also choose Landry at the wide receiver position or take a shot on some of these later round guys that I love with Robbie Anderson, Dante Pettis & Co. Man Howard. Henry Ingram at tight end still available. Aaron Rodgers on the board at 5:11. This is, this is tough. This is rubber meets the road for late round quarterback philosophy here. Aaron Rodgers at 511. That seems like a value.

[B]

It's not the worst but I don't. I think the only guy I would consider in the fifth would be Patrick Mahomes.

[A]

For me personally, where is, where's Rogers.

[B]

Is my number two guy.

[A]

Where is Rogers going in half point leagues right now?

[B]

Well, you.

[A]

Rogers is going.

[B]

His ADP on sleeper is 507 54.

[A]

About the same type of spot. I don't, I don't know if I can take a second shot at an injury situation here. So I'm actually going to shoot my shot with Dante Pettis at 511.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. And then I was hoping Cooper cup would come back around and I'd grab him. He didn't.

[B]

Hoping cup would come back. You should have taken cup then because Pettis certainly would have come back.

[A]

That's true. Faux pas. Faux pas. Cook, Gurley, Jacobs, Edelman, Pettis, tight end O.J. howard just went off the board. I'm a big Believer in Evan Ingram in the passing game, having an advantage at that position in a PPR league. So I think I'm going to take Ingram here and let it roll. Is that who you wanted? Is that who you wanted to get to?

[B]

Yeah. So when I listed off all those three tight ends as there was a probability that was decent that one of them would come back. In fact, all three went in a row. So O.J. howard, Ingram, Hunter Henry were selected. That puts me a little bit on Rogers.

[A]

Rogers went right before your pick here.

[B]

Yeah, I'm happy about that.

[A]

I just couldn't take the chance on if I draft Cooper cup to be my 2. Cup is in a position where like, he's not a. He's not powerful enough at the. Of this season to go alongside Edelman, in my opinion. Sure, it's tough. I mean, would you have taken cup there if you were me over Pettis?

[B]

Yeah, especially if I wanted both. But I think that you could have gotten to the point where you take cup there and you can get a Pettis or Robbie Anderson or Alshon, like guys that can. That can fill in well enough that, that you can hold off until Cooper cup is at full strength.

[A]

So.

[B]

Man. So let me look at the running back position to see if I just want to start jamming that onto my bench here because I have Devonta Freeman and Lamar Miller. The top options by ADP are Tevin Coleman, James White, Darius Geist, who despite the videos of Darius Geist running straight lines and not wearing pads, Geist is essentially off my draft board currently until I see him in training camp. And they're not even talking about hamstring. Even that is still going to take a pretty giant leap of faith to select Darius guys in the sixth round. So it's tough because there are similar reports on Miles Sanders where he's. He's hurt. We don't know what things are going to be. We don't know what the split is going to be between him and Jordan Howard.

[A]

Miles Sanders has a hamstring injury. He. What. What happens with him in camp goes a long way. Like, I know for a fact that Miles Sanders ADP has been dropping in both regular and dynasty leagues. People are apprehensive and people are really focused on the fact that like Doug Peterson has been this committee guy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But you know, my contention about that backfield in Philadelphia has always been that he's a committee guy by necessity, not a committee guy by design. He has Wendell Smallwood, Josh Adams, Corey Clement.

[B]

I mean, these are fair points.

[A]

These are players you have to mix and match to put yourself in a position to win. They drafted Miles Sanders very highly in the draft at 606. It's an interesting spot to get him. I mean you get him two rounds later than someone like David Montgomery, a rookie with opportunity in Chicago. So.

[B]

But not to.

[A]

I mean I'm not trying to talk into him but Adpy well he was.

[B]

The player I was leaning towards drafting. ADP wise I would be reaching to take Miles Sanders here but and there's wide receivers you know I really liked. I've already mentioned him. Alshon, Robbie Anderson, those. Those type of players but other than a bi week situation or an injury like they're not the wide receivers I take here are. I'm not planning to play them over my big three. That would be such a rare and red alert situation. So I think I'm going to go with the running back to keep trying to get more. More and more tickets for someone to pay off.

[A]

Well, I was going to say you're in the identical situation that I'm in. Dart throw wise at the. Yours are running back wise.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Mine's going to be wide receiver wise where I feel like Gurley, Jacobs and Cook, they're going to be enough for me. I don't have to focus on that position till later. So you did take Miles Sanders. I love your team. It sucks.

[B]

Oh thank you.

[A]

Your team's great. Mayfield, White Watkins, Darrell Henderson off the board at 610. Guy Slandry finishing out the sixth round. Jeffrey Ebron Penny at 703. I was a little later than normal.

[B]

Was hoping that Rashad Penny got back to Matt Ryan.

[A]

Latavius Murray, Robbie Anderson off the board at 706. I know he's a player you like Mike, but you may be taking your shots at either side in a running back here. You're on the clock though. You got to make a pick.

[B]

Whoo doggy.

[A]

Six quarterbacks off the board thus far through this head to head mock. You also have seven tight ends that are now gone. I imagine tight end is not going to enter your mind. No at all at this point.

[B]

So I don't. I'm not going to go with this strategy but I just want to talk it through a little bit here. I just took Miles Sanders. J. Jordan Howard is there as well. Would you give any consideration to just loading up seeing if you have the guy or if they both have standalone value.

[A]

There are probably a couple of teams where I would look at doing that but that from experience that just doesn't work out very often other than if your objective is to load your bench with players you can't drop. That's what happens a lot of the time. I mean, last year there were teams that had Carson, Penny, Davis, right? Well, what were you going to do with them? Did you drop Penny? Did you drop Davis? Maybe eventually you did, but you were really hamstrung as a friend. Like, that's one of the things that I don't know. If you're going to be in a situation where Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard, what are you going to do? How are going to win the job? What's probably going to happen is Howard's going to be involved early. Sanders from week five or six on is going to be great, but then you're going to have Howard locked up. So you said you weren't going with the strategy. I'm just breaking it down a little bit.

[B]

No, I like it. So as of right now, I do have at least a handful of guys ranked above Tevin Coleman. But once again, given the, given how my team is shaping up and building and ADP wise, Coleman is not likely to get back to me. I'm going to take the shot that Coleman ends up as the starting running back and the predominant running back for the San Francisco 49ers, because if that's the case, then I have, I have an absolute big hit and, and then I can adjust accordingly from there. And like, like I said, I'm playing the game of ADP where I have players ranked above him, but I know they're going to come back to me.

[A]

All right, Tevin? Well, that's what you have to do. Right? Right. The whole essence of having breakouts and sleepers and talking about them and up, you know, on your star player list, you know, the players are focusing on is not to draft them outside of their adp.

[B]

And I'm in the middle. So I have, I can play the ADP game pretty well.

[A]

And so after Tevin Coleman with Alan Robinson, Jared Cook, Jordan Howard at 7:10, I'm back on the clock. I've got a couple picks back to back. And when you look at the wide receiver landscape at this point, you're taking shots on players to kind of emerge, several of them. You could go with Marvin Jones, somebody that we have in our ultimate draft kit as a value. Marvin Jones two years ago, number nine.

[B]

Oh, he's a stud. Yeah.

[A]

I mean, number nine overall at the position.

[B]

And honestly, what the only thing that went wrong or that went wrong for him last year was that it all went right two years ago. Much like I'm going to use the comparison of Tyler Lockett. Those deep balls, they just worked out far more often than they did not two years ago from Marvin Jones. The 5050 ball, he just came down with him, and it didn't. It didn't work out. The connection with him and Stafford, which. Then the news came out about Stafford, the injury that he was playing through. I think Marvin Jones is an absolute value at the wide receiver position currently.

[A]

And, yeah, the other players that maybe by ADP are slightly ahead of him are not players that I'm interested in making. You know, adding to my wide receiver rotation. Will Fuller can't stay healthy. You know, he's a dynamic player, but he's not the one on that team. I think you're going to have a lot of this season where Marvin Jones and Kenny Golladay are bouncing back and forth as far as potential. So I'm going to take these, what I would view as a stabilizing pick for my roster with Marvin Jones on top of Edelman and Pettis, and then I obviously get another pick quickly after. And I'm making. I got to make a gamble here at this pick.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Wentz and Ronald Jones went next, by the way, and I'm back on the clock. I'll just be transparent, like the player that I want more for my roster right here than any other wide receiver on the board. And you've got Fuller, Kirk, Sterling, Shepherd's on the board. Larry Fitzgerald's on the board. You can go to MVS and take a shot on him. The next highest player on my board is desean Jackson.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

He's going to be a starter in what I think is a top five offense in football. But then I'm staring down the reality that, well, I think I can get him. I think I can get him in the ninth round.

[B]

You certainly.

[A]

So that could. That's a gamble. So then I start looking. You know, I want to look somewhere else because I don't think I want to take a wide receiver. Nobody is kind of tickling me in the right places, Mike. Okay.

[B]

That's when I make my best draft picks.

[A]

Fitzgerald's not doing it, so I'm looking at some upside at another position.

[B]

Talk about my armpits. Of course. Yeah.

[A]

And I'm actually going to take. I'm going to take a shot on Royce Freeman here in the eighth round.

[B]

Oh, I like it. I like.

[A]

So I think. I think it's a value pick on a player that's going to have like I'd rather have Royce Freeman than the pick of Jordan Howard at 710 that was ahead of me in this draft. Rather have them than Latavius Murray at 705. Even though I think Murray's valuable, I think Freeman has the most like upside in that eighth round range. Certainly more than Ronald Jones. So I'm going to go with Royce Freeman here and I'm going to straight up just tell you I'm hoping desean Jackson makes it through two Mike Wright picks.

[B]

Well, he will make it through one, absolutely. Because part of my selecting of Tevin Coleman playing the ADP game, I was also playing the paying attention to what other teams have done and the, the five teams after me that we're going to pick twice, four of them had already selected a tight end before I took Tevin Coleman and one of those and the team that hadn't, they took Jared Cook. So that absolutely worked out for me. That I can warm up the music.

[A]

Wait, what are you doing?

[B]

I can do a little dance and I can do the Vance dance in the eighth round.

[A]

Yeah, that's a steal.

[B]

Oh, man, my team is so good.

[A]

A lot has been said about Dante Moncrieb, James Washington, Deontay Johnson, James Conner. Where did the, the, you know, where does the. Antonio Brown.

[B]

Yeah. Where do the targets go?

[A]

Vance McDonald is the number one beneficiary from that situation. You know, he's coming. He's got the most time with Ben Roethlisberger of that group of other possible target, you know, targets in the offense. I love that pick.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I'm extremely, I'll be honest with you, when I saw Vance dropping, it made me disappointed in ingram in the six. I will take Vance McDonald at 8006 every day of the week over Evan Ingram in the sixth round. If I knew I had that choice.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Some other highlights from this round and we're going to have to speed it up to get through the remainder of this draft. Njoku in at the end of the round, Fitz Sheppard, Sutton off the board, Nikhil Harry in the ninth round and then LaShawn McCoy and Carlos Hyde. Oh my goodness. It's kind of funny seeing them next to each other in the ninth round of fantasy drafts, hanging on fingertips on the cliff of their careers. And here they are, former first round picks together in the ninth round. Mike, you're on the clock.

[B]

So I'm now going to look at the. I mean it's down to running back and wide receiver really. And man, I want to take a wide receiver. But at this point for me it would just be taking, you know, a shot at a sleeper. I've like you said, we're working with the four bench, so pretty shallow. So I'm actually going to keep I'm going to push that sleeper pick up to another round because there is a player who is another starting running back in my eyes. I talked about Darius Geist's off my draft board. Adrian Peterson is going at the back of drafts and I will be shocked at this point if he is not the starting and predominant running back week one and at least through the first 25% of the season.

[A]

All right, you took AP Dede. One of your favorites went next, Jalen Samuels. That's upsetting Corey Davis and then back to me. So I am going to take Desean Jackson at 9 11. I foreshadowed the pick, wanted to wait around so I got Royce Freeman by doing that. Desean Jackson at 9 11. I believe that fantasy owners will be able to start DeSean Jackson this year on the reg. I agree he's one of the most underrated players in fantasy football. He has the fatigue factor that just gets you knocked down Draft boards over and over again. Metcalf and Rivers went next. I'm going to take another shot at the wide receiver position. I want to take mvs, so I'm going to go desean Jackson and Marquez Valdez scaling back to back. This team was built, my team was built on those three running backs at the top. Picked up Royce in the eighth and then I've got shots at the wide receiver position with Edelman, Pettis, Jones, Jackson and mvs. I think I can breathe easy at the wide receiver position now that Jones, Jackson and MVS fell to me.

[B]

All right. And so now with my kind of my final bench pick of this draft, I'm looking at upside at the wide receiver position. I'm looking at a guy who could potentially break out. I don't want Golden Tate where I He's going to be a fine player. You can play him probably every single week.

[A]

It's kind of incredible. He's not gone right 1006.

[B]

He's just people are not super interested in it, but I really like Kiki here. I think that he has the potential to be a kind of a breakout, but still a little bit hampered. But Curtis Samuel has the potential to become the number one wide receiver on that team. He could. He could be the number one option over DJ Moore. He was a reception perception superstar. So I'm going to take the chance that he does break out.

[A]

And now you've got to select a quarterback, as do I, in the final round of the draft. Several teams taking multiple quarterbacks, I think the majority of them, which puts us in a position of still liking our options at quarterback, which doesn't hurt me at all. I know, I know. And so you know, when you look back at the draft, as you make your pick here and you look at considering things like Aaron Rodgers in the fifth round, you know, the opportunity for you to fill out the more important positions on your roster, it just comes full circle here. You basically get the opportunity to protect yourself. I mean, we both have players with risk on these rosters, right?

[B]

And the in so full disclosure of that last pick where I took Curtis Samuel, Jared Goff. Jared Goff went just three picks before. If Goff had been there, I would have taken Jared Goff over Curtis, over Curtis Samuel and then taken my flyer wide receiver with my final pick of the draft. So with the quarterbacks left available, you know, Lamar, Jimmy, Garoppolo, Cousins, but Dak Prescott is there, who has done nothing but be a quarterback one his entire career, now has a top weapon. Even though he will, I don't believe will be reliable for fantasy in Amari Cooper. But I love Dak. I think he is, he's a fantasy force.

[A]

All right. And my last pick, the second last pick in the draft overall.

[B]

Oh, nice.

[A]

Josh Allen at 11:11. I think Josh Allen is a QB one this season. I feel great about drafting him there. And let's run through these rosters a little bit. I will say this just like from a top level before you kind of give your team, I'll give mine. It was a little uncomfortable going from the 11th spot in this draft because you're not quite the back to back position. You take a handful of games. I thought for sure Green or Allen, you know, this was a team that had taken one wide receiver, one running back and then they were going back to back. I think, okay, you're not going to go wide receiver, wide receiver at the turn. And they did, they went wide receiver, wide receiver. So Green and Allen didn't get back to me, I would feel like on first glance a little bit more comfortable with my team. If AJ Green or Keenan Allen was my one over Edelman, even though we.

[B]

Had gotten Allen there, that would have been pretty awesome.

[A]

Yeah, I would have changed a lot for the roster. I would, I think I might have. You know, I had that kind of rough patch where it's like Pettis or Cup or Ingram. I don't like that part of the draft, but I feel like coming back later with Jones, Freeman, Jackson, MBS and Allen. I feel good about it, but this is the first time I've taken Todd Gurley in amok.

[B]

Yeah. So read down your your roster.

[A]

So I running back, I only have four. I got Dalvin Cook, Todd Gurley, Josh Jacobs and Royce Freeman. At wide receiver, I have Edelman Pettis, Marvin Jones, Desean Jackson and mbs. And at tight end, I have Evan Ingram who I think will, you know, benefit from the absence of Odell Beckham Jr. And then I got Josh Allen with the last pick. I'm very comfortable with this situation. And there's players like Jimmy Garoppolo who weren't drafted, were sitting on the waiver wire if you need to flex and stream quarterbacks that are there. Mike, how's your team looking?

[B]

So at the wide receiver position, that's where my powerhouse lies. Devonte Adams, Odell Beckham Jr. Stefan Diggs as my starters, and then Curtis Samuel as the potential breakout guy. So I had to pad those running backs with a lot of options. So Devonta Freeman locked and loaded one. After that, it's pretty sketchy, but between Lamar Miller, Miles Sanders, Tevin Coleman and Adrian Peterson, I believe that I can get a second running back in there on a weekly basis. Vance Dance, of course, at the tight end, and then Dak Prescott is my quarterback.

[A]

I actually don't think our teams are very different in as much as like from a draft position standpoint. They're complete inverse wide receiver.

[B]

We're just looking in the mirror. Yeah.

[A]

The wide receiver, running back decision making process was, was opposite. I like your team a lot. I think you got value. I believe in Freeman. All right, that is it for today's head to head half PPR mock draft. Again, a reminder, you can draft mock draft to your heart's content over on Sleeper and you know, take a shot at every position. You know, there are a lot of people that write us and say, what's the right spot to pick?

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, I get to choose a lot of leagues. They don't just, you know, if you finish last, you get to choose your pick as opposed to just getting the first pick in the draft. They want to know where to go based on how this draft went.

[B]

You should draft at 7 because you love your team. I prefer to be. Well, Melvin Gordon, you have tremendous brewing it up.

[A]

All right, so let's do this before we get into our pristine auction deal of the day and break down what went wrong? I'm going to break down what went wrong on your team.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You do it for my team.

[B]

Ok.

[A]

So you get that we get to attack one another. I think where you're obviously facing your crisis is the running back position. I mean Devonta Freeman, you have to take. Make the gamble that he is a one for your roster.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Beyond him. Miles Sanders could take him some time. Tevin Coleman, we don't really know Adrian Peterson even if he's given the keys to the castle. It's a Washington Redskins castle. And Lamar Miller. Lamar Miller has been. Has shown that he can do it. What happens in that backfield you may have to find some opportunity on the waiver wire at the running back position as the year proceeds. And you better hope Devonta Freeman stays healthy. Your wide receivers are on lockdown and are incredible and the value got on Vance is great.

[B]

And I'll say for your team where it could go. Right. If Todd Gurley is Todd Gurley then your team becomes nearly unstoppable because you have Dalvin Cook and the number one who could be the number one overall running back and Todd Gurley. The wide receivers. It's. It's tough because your backup three between Marvin Jones, D. Jacks and Marquez, they. There's there. There will be weeks where all three of them, literally all three miss where I think they're startable on a weekly basis. But you know what they are where they could go off or they could vanish and give you 20 yards and one reception. So that's where I think you will struggle. And if. And that's assuming that Dante Pettis is who we believe he will become. So you. But it's fine because the waiver wire will be.

[A]

Don't worry. Mike Pettis has 27 career receptions. I think something like that. That's enough of a sample size.

[B]

What's also nice about both of our teams, we know where we are going to attack the waiver wire. We don't have to have prioritize go. Okay. I'm just going to try and take the best available guy even though he may not play. I know what I'm going after. If there's a breakout running back one who's the top waiver candidate after week one, I'm going hard in the paint.

[A]

Yeah. No, it's good. And it ends up that way. You took best available. I mean that's kind of what happened here. You didn't necessarily go into this draft saying I want wide receiver, wide receiver. You were shocked to see Beckham on The board in the second round. All right, that was fun. Pristine. Deal of the day.

[B]

What's the deal of the day today?

[A]

The deal of the day is an Alvin Camara. Alvin Camara signed New Orleans Saints jersey. And I gotta be honest with you, $73.

[B]

Oh, somebody ate their mushrooms. And powered up by powering down the price of that signed jerk.

[A]

When you take mushrooms. When you take mushrooms, like, I know it worked out for Mario, but generally, like, that's the kind of thing that would let you probably sell something for way less than it's worth.

[B]

Yeah, maybe.

[A]

So maybe we're on to something here. I don't know if Pristine would be very happy with the illusion that they're on mushrooms, and that's why they're selling well.

[B]

These are super Mario mushrooms. These are. They are regulated, and they do one thing. They make you grow three times two.

[A]

Size and make the price one third the price. All right, Yesterday, Alvin Kamara signed jersey, $73. Check them out. Pristineauction.com if you use the code ballers on signup, you get five bucks off your first auction, your first purchase on the platform. So check it out and look. We're done. Mike. We did it. Jake.

[B]

We made it to the end.

[A]

Jay Grizz is the bear.

[B]

Did not have much to say today.

[A]

No, he whispered to me a little bit.

[B]

Ooh, was he giving you hot picks?

[A]

He wanted me to take Drubisky over Josh Allen. I'll tell you that with the last.

[B]

Oh, Jay Gris.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Always up to shenanigans.

[A]

All right, have a good one. Foot clan. We'll be back on Tuesday. Jason will be back, and we'll finish up these divisional breakdowns.

[B]

Absolutely. Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.