Unsolved Mysteries + TNF Preview, Top 5 Surprises - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/17

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Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Unsolved Mysteries + TNF Preview, Top 5 Surprises

Date: September 17, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the most confounding “unsolved mysteries” of the early 2025 fantasy football season, providing sharp analysis and actionable advice on player performances that have left fantasy managers scratching their heads. The crew also breaks down the upcoming Thursday Night Football matchup and answers listener mailbag questions about start/sit dilemmas and trade targets.

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Key Sections and Discussion Highlights

1. Opening Banter & League Updates (03:06)

• The hosts joke about office guillotine league (“chop league”) drama, highlighted by wild waiver wire moves and “pouring one out” for Derek Hennessy.
• Notable quote:
  “All the waivers went through this morning and the falcon got chopped last week and I'm on the chopping block this week.” — Andy Holloway (02:50)

2. Backup Options & Waiver Wire Advice (05:31)

• Segment presented by Progressive Insurance.
• Recency bias on the waiver wire is called out: often solid players are dropped to chase one-week wonders.
• Most-dropped players on Sleeper (QB): Joe Burrow, Justin Fields.
  Other names: Jaden Reed (injured), Calvin Austin, Khalil Shakir, Evan Engram, Mark Andrews.
• Pay close attention to dropped players, not just top pickups.

Under-the-Radar Pickups:

• Woody Marks (RB, Houston):
  “He’s not someone that you can play just yet, but increase of snaps…now with the way that things are going for Houston, I think Woody Marks is…a good stash.” — Mike Wright (08:28)
• Tory Horton (WR, Seattle): Seeing more opportunities, notable preseason hype, could become relevant if trends continue.
• Matthew Golden (WR, Packers):
  “He is leading the league in average separation score…it's a matter of time and they need him.” — Jason Moore (10:58)
• Deep speculation: Jaden Higgins (Houston WR) and Mark Andrews (TE—likely a joke, but some streaming value for desperate managers).

3. NFL News & Notes (13:35)

• Justin Fields out (concussion), Tyrod Taylor to start.
• Aaron Jones placed on IR (hamstring): Big window for Jordan Mason, but O-line changes and QB switch bring some risk.
• Minnesota QB situation: Carson Wentz expected to start soon; Vikings' O-line issues continue.
• T.J. Hockenson:
  “No production this year, no production at the end of last year… I have no confidence in TJ Hockenson.” — Andy Holloway (15:20)
• Christian Watson: Set to return soon for Green Bay.
• Christian Kirk: “Expected to come back for the Texans.” — Texan offense looks lost.

4. Unsolved Mysteries (20:15)

a) Drake London: Under Construction or Falling Down? (21:57)

• WR28 overall, but huge week-to-week fluctuation.
• Atlanta’s offense is very run-heavy, but both Andy and Jason see reason for hope:
  • “They’re going to be in a lot of shootouts and they’re willing to throw the ball…I’ve made a couple offers for Drake London.” — Jason Moore (23:38)
  • Both recommend trying to buy low even amid early struggles.

b) Javonte Williams: RB4—Will It Continue? (25:19)

• RB4 in back-to-back weeks after years of disappointment.
• Full bellcow usage; 74% of snaps is rare.
• O-line injury is a concern, but Williams is back to top-15 weekly consideration.
• “He’s impressed me through two weeks. He is a full bell cow and he’s on a good offense…that is so incredible.” — Jason Moore (27:16)

c) Eagles Passing Offense: Doomed? (29:05)

• Philadelphia is dead last in pass rate; Hurts’ yardage shockingly low.
• A.J. Brown is underproducing — WR172 and WR72 finishes.
  “The only news…was their offensive coordinator coming out and saying: Don’t worry, we’re going to run more design runs for Jalen Hurts.” — Andy Holloway (30:59)
• Worry Meter:
  • Andy: 7/10, would consider trading A.J. Brown.
  • Jason: 8/10, tried trading for Drake London live on-air.
  • Mike: 6/10.
  • Advice: You can consider offloading Brown or seeking upside elsewhere, but recognize big games will still come.

Listener Game: Play “Would You Rather?” with A.J. Brown vs. other WRs.

5. Other Burning Questions (37:08)

• DK Metcalf: Still an every-week start, but yardage is disappointing.
• Chase Brown, Chicago pass catchers, Seattle backfield, and Marvin Harrison Jr. usage—all remain question marks.
• Marvin Harrison Jr.:
  “He’s humongous, but doesn’t play humongous.” — Andy Holloway (54:51)

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6. Thursday Night Football Preview: Miami Dolphins @ Buffalo Bills (38:32)

• Vegas Line: Bills -12.5, O/U 49.5.
• Buffalo outlook: “All the injuries on the defense, but Josh Allen and James Cook are still every-week plays.”
• Miami: Tyreek and Waddle are near must-starts, but Waddle is banged up. “A Chan is getting targets, but the offense is so pass-heavy you want only the big pieces.”
• Start/Sit Calls:
  • Keon Coleman is a plausible desperation FLEX, favored over deeper options like I.O. Manor.
  • "It's just who do you play among the obvious starts." — Mike Wright (41:20)

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7. Mailbag: Listener Q&A (46:43)

• Travion Henderson or Zach Charbonnet (RB/FLEX)?
  “High-upside play: go Henderson. Safety play: probably Charbonnet.” — Andy Holloway (48:10)
• Jordan Mason vs. Chase Brown ROS: Team in favor of Chase Brown for his passing-game involvement.
• Kyler Murray vs. Jordan Love:
  “I want a chance at a big play, and to me, Jordan Love is a big play.” — Andy Holloway (50:51)
• Trade advice: T. Higgins for Xavier Worthy—“Keep Higgins.”
• Stack decision: Odunze favored over Metcalf, perhaps even over Garrett Wilson.
• Roma Odunze or Marvin Harrison Jr.?
  “Odunze there. Marvin...I’ll leave it.” — Andy Holloway (54:59)
• Shoutouts: CeeDee Lamb highly efficient despite not yet scoring a TD.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Atlanta’s offense:
  “They’re going to have plenty of games where they are throwing like crazy… London is, you know, feels still safe to me.” — Jason Moore (24:37)
• On the Eagles:
  “The goal is to win the game no matter what it looks like.” — A.J. Brown (read by Andy Holloway) (34:12)
• Mailbag flexibility:
  “If I was a heavy underdog, I’m probably not playing Charbonnet. I’ll probably try Travion…” — Andy Holloway (48:08)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:06] League/Office Chop League Banter
• [05:31] Backup Options & Top Drops
• [13:35] News & Notes
• [20:26] Unsolved Mysteries (Drake London, Javonte Williams, Eagles Passing)
• [37:00] Other Burning Questions
• [38:32] Thursday Night Football Preview (Dolphins @ Bills)
• [46:43] Listener Mailbag

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Takeaways & Tone

The episode is loaded with actionable advice (trade, start/sit, waiver pickups), with the hosts’ signature blend of humor, humility, and bold takes. The “unsolved mysteries” bring strategic depth for fantasy managers — especially on how to react to slow starts from “studs” and new opportunity for speculative pickups.

If you missed this episode, you’ll leave with reassurance on players like Drake London, new names to chase on waivers, clear start/sit calls, and a little more skepticism about the Eagles’ passing game.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your host Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in the Fantasy Footballers podcast for Wednesday, September 17th. Welcome in one and all. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway, the doosers in the building today. Al Borland is here. Let's see, you're still in our chopped league. Oh yeah, Papa Josh, you're still in the chop league and then the Falcons here helping with the show. Thanks Derek Henny.

[Mike Wright]

Derek Hennessy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh man, things just get better and better for the Falcon.

[Andy Holloway]

We are in a big, if you don't know it is a chop league, a guillotine league where the lowest score every week gets cut out of the league and all the players get released into the waiver wire and we're doing one with all of the office here and then the waiver wire is wild. I mean you have a thousand fab to spend and I dropped half of it today and yeah, old Derek Hennessy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, mad pour one out for his homies.

[Andy Holloway]

So all the waivers went through this morning and the falcon got chopped last week and I'm on, I'm on the chopping block this week.

[Mike Wright]

Matt, I appreciate your donation to my team. Jordan Mason, because my team was Looking thin.

[Andy Holloway]

So yeah, that's what we're reacting to this morning. We have a big show today, backup options, NFL News to talk about. We're going to dive into some unsolved mysteries on the show today, preview the Thursday night game and then get into the mailbag if we have time for is a good time. And we're going into week three. We'll give a little shout out here. The current Megalobol leader conscious rising 329 points in the lead after two weeks out of 20,000 people. So congratulations there. But it's just two weeks, you know what I mean? It's just two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

You might not even make the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So congrats though. Shout out to them, Megalov leader.

[Mike Wright]

This person's. They're riding high.

[Jason Moore]

They are my enemy. And you're like, I'm probably not going.

[Mike Wright]

To make the playoffs. What about them?

[Jason Moore]

I plan to win this league.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so. Well, I didn't hear your name.

[Jason Moore]

I don't need to have my name said now. Talk to me in week 17.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, a reminder, I will make a note. Talk to Jason in week 17.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

About Megalovolt.

[Andy Holloway]

Weekly rankings start sit tool all the articles on the website the fantasy footballers.com also available in our free in season app. Just look for the fantasy footballers app on the app Store on the Google Play Store and you can grab that and have some start sit in your pocket every week. You can follow us on X at the FFballers, follow Jason at Jason FFL, Mike at FF Hitman. I'm at Andy Holloway. Mike was making some world news for us yesterday in a hatless episode of the show. Mike shaved off the locks, had to cut it down and I would say 50% of the comments was what's happening.

[Mike Wright]

Just in time for winter.

[Andy Holloway]

Also strangely, some like strange backhanded insults. Several people were like, oh no, no, he cut off his hair. Now he looks too much like Andy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, gross.

[Andy Holloway]

Which is gross I think was the implication.

[Jason Moore]

No, it is.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know which one of us it's gross for.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's true. That's. It's pretty.

[Mike Wright]

It could just be insulting to both of us.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, that makes the most sense. All right, let's jump into our first segment.

[Jason Moore]

Backup options presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're not in a chop league, Derek Hennessy is probably not one of the backup options. You can pick up on your waiver wire. So we like to.

[Mike Wright]

He was there for us.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. Sitting there. I used the waiver wire tool to identify Derek Hennessy to add him to the to the roster. Look there we have a list of the most dropped players on sleeper over the last 24 hours. So I want to share some of those because this segment, you know, we always say every drop a legacy. We want you to pay attention to who was dropped on waiver day. Everyone fights for the newest. I mean, Wanda Robinson was picked up in a lot of leagues.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm sure some pretty good players were dropped to pick up and chase the Wanda 142 yard game. But the most dropped players on sleeper the last 24 hours, Joe Burrow and Justin Fields. At quarterback, Ali Gordon, Tank Bigsby. Jaden blew at running back Jaden Reed, who had double surgery. Like we found out this morning. Jaden Reed had the clavicle surgery and then threw in a side of two for a side of the foot surgery.

[Jason Moore]

I'll bet he saved a little bit of cash on that deal for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

If you need surgery, do it all. Yeah, do it all at once.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, he was obviously trying to play through the foot injury and then he's like, well, if I'm going to miss time and I've got to pay.

[Mike Wright]

For it going under, you know.

[Jason Moore]

Anastasia Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Jones fracture the feet. The feet are getting lots of action this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they really are.

[Andy Holloway]

The Jones fracture, the turf toes. We need to take care of the feet.

[Mike Wright]

There's a coach who's loving it.

[Andy Holloway]

Jaden Reed, Marvin Mims. Jaden Higgins. Calvin Austin, Khalil Shakir.

[Mike Wright]

It's not that good of a joke, guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodness gracious.

[Jason Moore]

The Deuces really were cracking a real.

[Andy Holloway]

Rex Ryan fan base back there. Goodness. Mark Andrews, Evan Ingram, Britain Strange. You know, Evan Ingram right now is like I saw him on the waiver wire in our league and it really, it did tempt me a little bit because if you need a tight end, it's hard to see his name there. Oh, the joker in Denver. Plus, it's fair to say that like, you know, he was hurt.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

And so there's a chance to snap counts playing behind Troutman, but I didn't pick him up.

[Jason Moore]

So 100%. That calf issue, we weren't even sure if he was going to play last week. I throw last week and I've been the all off season anti Evan Ingram person. But I do not think that week two's lull is going to be indicative of what he's going to do rest of season. He's still going to be bad but not that bad.

[Andy Holloway]

And yeah, so there's your biggest drops from the week. So we want to look at three names. Maybe they've been dropped or you need some more names to pay attention to on the waiver wire. Mike, I'm going to let you start because the running back situation in Houston is an ever evolving non Joe Mixon situation.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Joe Mixon is still gone and I want to highlight Woody Marks. He was a fourth round pick. You know, the snaps went up from week one to week two and had a big time 37 yard catch. And honestly the biggest thing here is that Damian Pierce was a healthy scratch on Monday and that that was surprising to me. Like Woody Marks was a guy. Okay, if you're in Dynasty, you're aware of the name but for Redraft there was just really no, no need. But now with the way that things are going for Houston, I think that Woody Marks is a first for certain builds is a good stash. He's not someone that you can play just yet, but increase of snaps. The other backup seems to be like Woody seems to have taken his job now and something to pay attention to. So Daria Goomba Walley was PFF's lowest graded pass blocker of week two.

[Andy Holloway]

That I did see some of his whiffs and it frustrated me because that guy finds himself on the field and third down so much. So yeah, it's worth paying attention to. I'll throw Tory Horton out there. Wide receiver for Seattle. Great preseason, slow start to the year. Finally got four targets this past week scored for Seattle and we talked a lot about the way rookies progressed. Like not a lot of rookies have made an early impact. Tyler Warren, Amika egbuca and Tetaro McMillan, those are kind of the highlights so far. But Cooper cup, older veteran wide receiver, you could see a second half transition. Horton getting more work, more opportunities. So whether he's an AD today, tomorrow, just pay attention to the snap counts, the production in Seattle and see what happens.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I've got a couple of names, but I think the primary one that might be dropped in a handful of leagues, he's not going to be dropped everywhere. But Matthew golden will hit some waivers. Sometimes teams just have to. Even if you don't want to drop him because he was a 1st round NFL Draft pick. Injuries and needs, sometimes it's like, well, I mean the guy has what, four targets on the season right now? Through two games he hasn't hit a 10% market share. So he's done jack squat, which is why he'll hit some waivers. But Matthew golden has been good, actually good on the field. The packers look outstanding. Jordan Love is firing on all cylinders. His According to fantasy points data, Matthew golden right now is leading the league in average separation score. He is.

[Andy Holloway]

He is a matter of time.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's a matter of time and they need him and it's a good offense. So Matthew Golden, I would, I would scoop up two other names I want to quickly throw out. Jaden Higgins will be on almost every waiver wire after, you know, he's not.

[Mike Wright]

You sure you want the you guys.

[Jason Moore]

Brought him up as you would drop him yesterday and I'm fine dropping him.

[Mike Wright]

I'm saying Christian Kirk is supposed to be back now.

[Jason Moore]

No, I get that. But I'm just saying as the season goes on, they're, they have to make changes for the Houston Texans and I think Higgins will have relevance by the end of the year. So maybe you don't pick him up this week. Maybe it's next week or the, you know, just wait and watch. But I, I've got my eyes on him still. And then the other name you look, if you didn't like Jaden Higgins, you're going to hate this one. You guys are going to. Yeah. Oh, this is nasty. But let's hear. There are teams that nasty but benefit. It's nasty.

[Mike Wright]

But I've never heard of him.

[Jason Moore]

Mark Andrews. Mark.

[Mike Wright]

Oh no. Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Listen to my logic here. I would say I hope there's no it was just five minutes.

[Andy Holloway]

Listen to this.

[Jason Moore]

Listen, check this out.

[Mike Wright]

I've got a feeling.

[Jason Moore]

No here, here. There's a quarter of every single league out there that have no option at tight end. You're trying to play someone that you're thinking might get four or five targets and it just looks bad. And you're going on the waiver wire, picking up Jataven Sanders, hoping there's a breakout, yada yada. But when you actually need to start someone, the likelihood of a touchdown coming from Mark Andrews is much higher than most of the riff raff on the waiver wire. He had a touchdown last week.

[Mike Wright]

He literally had street rats alone.

[Jason Moore]

Jason. He caught a touchdown. It was pretty much done deal. And then an amazing defensive punch out right in the end zone knocked the ball out of his hands because he's.

[Mike Wright]

Got old weak hands now.

[Jason Moore]

Sure. But I mean this is a guy who will have a lot of touchdowns through the season. Now he is not a possession receiver like he used to be. He's not going to go out there and get eight targets in a game. But if you just want a touchdown play, Lamar is going to throw 30 touchdowns this year and several of them are going to go to Andrews. We saw last year he had disappearing X like crazy and then just goes and gets double digits touchdowns, two targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Inside the five this past week. So it's unfortunately if you're in the touchdown only zone, Mark Andrews is in that category and it's not much different than Zach hurts, to be honest. Right. Zach hurts. If he doesn't score, you're going to be bummed.

[Mike Wright]

But Andrews nasty, nasty.

[Andy Holloway]

But that was backup options Sponsored By Progressive Insurance quote [e-mail] let's talk news.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

It was announced this morning that Justin Fields is officially out this week as he deals with a concussion to Rod Taylor will start against the Buccaneers. It was announced before waivers went through but didn't have that out sitting next to his name.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, until just after. Oh, can you move?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he's marked out now.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, fantastic.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's great you got some backup options.

[Jason Moore]

Who are you talking about?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. All right. Aaron Jones placed on IR with the hamstring injury. He'll be out through the team's week six by at a minimum. This is a huge opportunity for Jordan Mason. The team itself, I will say, like Jordan Mason should be successful and should be started, but the offensive line combined with the change of quarterback will add some variables to the equation. I'm very, very curious about the Vikings offense in general and how much success they can have. You should have a little bit of, you know, I don't know if it's trepidation but just like what is Justin Jefferson for the next handful of weeks? Sure, everybody's seen the route, the route scene around the world, the T.J. hawkinson route. I mean, we've all seen this, right?

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't know what you're talking about. This does not feel like the route scene around the world.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you two are hiding under a rock. Go ahead and just search TJ Hawkinson route that won't be hard to find. He had a very unimpressive route that led many to believe he is toasted. Which I brought this up to Jason earlier in the week that I think he's toast. Like I we haven't seen TJ Hawkinson post injury look good at all. So I don't, you know, no production this year, no production at the end of last year. And yeah, you can, you can judge it however you want. I'm not. I have no confidence in TJ Hawkinson.

[Mike Wright]

He, like, he did a double fake. He went out and then back in slowly. Yeah, it is pretty slow.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, I think, remember yesterday you told me that I could run like Joe Flacco? Mike, you can run that route.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's a big compliment.

[Andy Holloway]

You can run that route. We'll see. I mean, it's the offense in general. In Minnesota, we trust Kevin O', Connell, but at the same time, what, seven of eight quarters have looked pretty bad for J.J. mcCarthy, but.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but we have. We'll have Carson Wentz here. The offensive line still remains a huge issue. But it's like for Carson Wentz, who was. He was a later joiner to the Minnesota Vikings. I believe he joined the squad in late August, so hopefully he's ready to go. But we've seen Kevin o' Connell take guys off this, just not off the street, but just like right to the team, right to a starting position and be fantasy relevant. So it's like, can offensive line aside, can the offense be that much worse than what we've seen with JJ McCarthy? And then the next two weeks, you.

[Andy Holloway]

Know who their quarterback should have been?

[Mike Wright]

Who's that?

[Andy Holloway]

Daniel Jones. Yeah, Daniel Jones was on the roster. That should have been their quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

So was Sam Darnold. But the next two matchups for Jordan Mason, Cincinnati Bengals and the Pittsburgh Steelers, who through two weeks look like a absolute run funnel. So for at least for the next two weeks, I have some excitement to play Mason.

[Andy Holloway]

It's funny, many leagues that is the Browns and several leagues that I have, I had the Steelers defense out of the draft. Right.

[Jason Moore]

And they were a target. I played them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Week one against just a few.

[Andy Holloway]

I have moved on in every league this morning from the Steelers defense. Christian Watson anticipates returning to practice for the packers sometime soon. His window to come back opens up in week six. And then Christian Kirk is expected to come back for the Texans. That offense has looked so bad. I mean, they're.02 in a division they're expected to win. The ball is not getting spread around to anybody. Nico Collins is not producing the way fantasy players hope. They can't run the football. Their offensive line is a struggle. The Jaden Higgins, Noel Hutchinson. The reason I don't like Higgins is because it's just kind of a mess. I mean, it could be Hutchinson as much as it could be Higgins.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I agree completely. And if you. When you watch the games, you just know their offensive line is. It is a. It's not to call it a sieve or a colander is unfair to colanders because that that stops some stuff from through. It's just non existent and fabulous. However you look at the first chef joke you look at the first the first two weeks was the Rams whose defense I think is outstanding, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who have a great defensive line and so hopefully when I mean this was stroud so far his whole career he has beat up on bad defenses and maybe part of that is because when he actually has some protection he can sling it. It's not always going to be as bad. So like they've got Jacksonville, Tennessee as the next two weeks. I think there could be some healing here.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

All righty. We did this last year. We'll talk about what we did last year and how it worked out, but it's time to jump in.

[Jason Moore]

Unsolved mysteries.

[Andy Holloway]

So last year at this time, we were talking about what happened to the elite tight ends. Laporta was drafted very highly, Kelsey, both of those guys. There was panic in the streets through two weeks. We also asked the question, is Sam Donald actually good after two weeks? The answer was pretty much yes.

[Mike Wright]

We asked that. I think 17 straight weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

It was an unsolved mystery for a long time. And then we had been talking about passing numbers and will they come back? It was. It was a struggle to start the year. So we put this out there. We wanted to figure out what you're asking about. So we have three unsolved mysteries to discuss. The first one being Drake London, or as Kyle put it, is the bridge falling down or under construction? I guess that would be a London bridge joke. Is that what that is? Yeah. Drake London, only the best here through two weeks. Yeah. Colander jokes and bridge jokes. That's what we do. All right. Through two weeks, he's the wide receiver, 28 and 77 in his two weeks. A lot was made, I think too much was made personally of the final three weeks of the season with Michael Pennix Jr. 15 targets though, in week one. Turning 15 targets into wide receiver, 28, that's tough. And then last, last week, 3 for 49 with a fumble. Atlanta is playing extremely slow. They're 31st in pass rate over expectation. That is the inverse of what we've been excited about with Justin Herbert, obviously.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, they just ran and ran and ran against the.

[Andy Holloway]

It is what I would do if I were them. And one of the things with Atlanta that I think we're seeing through two weeks is an evolution and progress on the defensive side of the football. I think they have a pretty good pass rush, a pretty good defense compared to where they had been in the past. So maybe the strategy in Atlanta is going to be much more Bijan Algier heavy protect Michael Pennix. Not that he won't have big games, but you did see the perfect variance in two weeks. You saw almost a 300 yard game and you saw 140 yard game. That being a possibility, does it change your view on Drake London at all? He is. Was drafted as the wide receiver. What, nine?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, about there. I think we. Based on how you've talked this last week about the Falcons I think you and I at least Andy will disagree here. I don't think London Bridge has fallen down here. I don't. I do not believe that this looks like a team that is coming out with specific game plans for their opponents. You know, you watched the beginning of this last week in prime time against Minnesota and every play was a handoff to Bijan to start that game. It was like this is what we're doing. Whereas the week prior when they're going up against Vita Veh and that, that divisional opponent they knew well, who has such a good, you know, run stopping defense, they did the exact opposite. Bijan only had 12 carries in the entire game. He was out wide. They were throwing the ball like crazy. And so this is I believe a team that is going to have plenty of, plenty of games where they are throwing like crazy. And while their defense has impressed me so far, I think their defense has looked really, really good. Which is not something we've said of the Falcons for that is true ever.

[Mike Wright]

It's been quite a while.

[Jason Moore]

I mean when was the last time the Falcons defense was like man, that divas was good. I can't ever remember. But I've only watched football for about 30 years so it could have been before that. But there's still not a team that is projected to win 12 games. They're going to be in a lot of shootouts and they're willing to throw the ball. So my opinion on this unsolved mystery is that like I've made a couple offers for Drake London in hopes that you know, bad opening start to the season. Maybe you're afraid that they're not going to throw the ball. I don't think that's going to happen. And on the London side, on the positive side, he still, he had a terrible, outrageously bad game this last week. But that included a couple of drops just on him that included a fumble when it with a good punch out. Awful game. But he still had, you know, he still had the involvement, the utilization. So to me he's was he like almost 40% of their first read targets.

[Mike Wright]

Like sounds about right.

[Jason Moore]

London is, you know, feels still safe to me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And he remember he was, he got knocked out in week one with the shoulder injury. So he's you know, still recovering from that. I'm, I'm on more of the side of I would go, I'd make some offers to try and get Drake London. We get Carolina next week. The defense has played well but we are getting news that A.J. terrell is now week to week with the hamstring injury. So and they're bringing a bunch of guys in so I would expect like, I mean that's great news for, for Ted Roll McMillan this week as they play against Carolina but I think overall London will bounce back and we'll look back at the first two weeks and go, oh yeah, yeah. Remember that when that happened.

[Andy Holloway]

Javante Williams, will it continue? Javante Williams is the RB4 and back to back weeks to open the year. He had one top five fantasy finish in the previous 54 games played in his entire career. He had seven targets last week in the offense.

[Mike Wright]

My son has been giving me the business on Javante.

[Andy Holloway]

He's like, how so? Like he. Why didn't you believe.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's like Javante's dog. And I'm like, that may be but this man has been garbage for so, so many years. So it wasn't a high probability bet. He was someone that was laid out of. You know, if you tuned into our. Our off season tips, I don't even shows. Yeah. Thank you. Shows of just highlighting certain backfields that you wanted. You want to take a chance on it. Javante Williams was in a backfield that was. You needed to take a chance on it because he was so late. Will it continue? I'm very concerned about the injury to the center but if they can get that figured out then I don't see a reason this won't continue. Like the biggest threat would be I know Miles Sanders is the backup but the biggest threat to Javante really losing fantasy value is Jaden Blue.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not a threat unless Javante's unproductive. And so far the gap seems massive between last year. It was Zeke, Zeke was. Zeke looked and the numbers looked awful, like furious. Javante's been great. So you know also one thing to note. Dallas games have been unbelievably close. 132 of 139 offensive plays were neutral. It was like within seven points which is crazy. Like that's almost every play that they've had in the entire season. So you know, if they get behind by a bunch, I don't, you know, what does that mean? I don't know. Last week was a shootout and he was heavily involved. So you know, Jason, where do you stand on Javante? Are you a. Would you buy?

[Jason Moore]

I don't think I'm going to buy but I'm certainly going to hold. I believe that he is. He's impressed me through two weeks. He gets what is given to him but he has played. I mean your son's not wrong. He's looked like he's got the dog in him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he always has. He just that that knee injury was apparently so he just needed to be.

[Andy Holloway]

Five or six, eight years removed from the injury.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think it's a health thing where it's like now he's got his explosiveness, his explosiveness back. I don't, I'm not seeing old school Javante where it's like whoa, he's so incredibly hard to take down. He's so speedy and bursty after getting stopped for a moment. Those things aren't there. Those things are never coming back for, for Javante. But the, the actual utilization is what we dream of for fantasy football. He is a full bell cow and he's on a good offense. That look part of the reason 74% of snaps that's, that's just in that is so incredible. There's you know, a handful of guys across the league that get that kind of treatment and one of the reasons I was so in on the DAX CD stack this year, it was a combination of bad defense, good offense and no running game. But it turns out looks like they're able to run the ball just fine. So bad defense still bad defense, still a good offense and you know, I'm in. However, obviously it's, he's not going to have, you know, touchdowns every single week, be the running back four every week. We've brought up the center that is now going to be gone for six weeks. That will hurt him. The upcoming schedule is also a little bit rough. So I mean I will say this. I looked at rankings coming into the week and where Javante was kind of default. He's way too low. Like I see Javante as a top 15 weekly start. He should be started going forward.

[Andy Holloway]

The last unsolved mystery is the Eagles passing offense doomed through two weeks. Doomed. Philadelphia is dead last in pass rate. Jalen Hurts has thrown for 152 and 101 in two victories. They are one of four teams in the last 10 years to start two and oh with under 250 total yards in two games in the passing offense. It's insane. And by the way like two of those four were Justin Fields for the Steelers and the Bears and then one was Caleb Williams last year. And so all the targets in the entire offense has been have been short. Mike Renner had tweeted, I mentioned it earlier in the week, only two completions of 10 plus air yards. A.J. brown, you could have Started a random wide receiver on any team and gotten better production in the first two weeks. Yeah, wide receiver 172. That's. Sorry, 100 the next week, wide receiver 72.

[Mike Wright]

So it's going 172.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

How many wide receivers are there?

[Andy Holloway]

So, you know, the target share jumped. It was all about no targets in the first matchup pretty much. But you know, it's not downfield stuff. 25% of his routes are slants. That's the highest among all wide receivers. That's not high value. If you have low volume and then your actual receptions are slant routes. You know, he's not going to break away like an old school obj. So I. It is concerning to me. We have what we want and hope for from devonte Smith and AJ Brown and it can certainly turn around. But we also have now a pretty long track record, a new offensive coordinator and unfortunately for everybody out there, victories. And by the way, the only news I saw from the offense this past week was their offensive coordinator coming out and saying, don't worry, we're going to run more design runs for Jalen Hurts. That's the comment.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's probably smart.

[Mike Wright]

I was a little worried. So I should not.

[Andy Holloway]

Not for that.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

No. I mean, Jalen Hurts was also a really disappointing week this past week. But are you, you know, to me, I. Is it doom? Doomed is too strong a word for me. Is it going to be a bumpy ride? That's where I'll say yes. Where.

[Mike Wright]

Like where is your Worry meter from 1 to 10? 10 being worried.

[Andy Holloway]

Worried meaning what? For my funk. Like for my fantasy team.

[Jason Moore]

Like he's going to bust.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Feeling like I wait, 10 is the bad one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay.

[Mike Wright]

10 is worried.

[Andy Holloway]

I would say somewhere in the seven range.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. So that's.

[Jason Moore]

So you're majority worried, are you?

[Mike Wright]

Would you consider unloading because AJ Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

I would trade AJ Brown.

[Mike Wright]

AJ Brown still has.

[Andy Holloway]

He would be an absolute trade for me. Yeah. Yeah. I would hear. Here's what I would do. I would try to trade A.J. brown and somebody that you don't believe in long term to go get jsn.

[Jason Moore]

I doubt you're going to get that done.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the kind of. I mean, because JSN went way, way behind A.J. brown in drafts. You could pick a different name. I mean, somebody else. Find somebody else that's not jsn. But I do think that I personally, I don't have a horse in the race. I don't have A.J. brown on the roster. I don't have Devonte Smith on a roster. I do think that there are going to be some really good games coming.

[Jason Moore]

There have to be.

[Andy Holloway]

He's. But their defense, Saquon Barkley. A year of like last year, everyone was like, oh my gosh, they have to do something different. We can't have another year like last year. And they were right. It's worse. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You thought you were at the bottom. Find a couple.

[Andy Holloway]

What's your number?

[Mike Wright]

I'm. I'm worried. I put myself at about a six.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, what's your number?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Jason, you got A.J. brown.

[Jason Moore]

So I'm just trying. I'm trying to get a deal done.

[Mike Wright]

He's trying to send trade offers out real quick before we talk about it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because Papa Josh and Matt have Drake London. I' to trying to get that trail. I was trying.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's make it happen. I know that Falcon has. He doesn't have that other league to worry about.

[Jason Moore]

I offered A.J. brown and Keisha booty.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, God. For.

[Jason Moore]

For Drake London.

[Mike Wright]

You're the one who loves booty. No one else loves booty.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, whatever. You want us to reject it right now or wait a little bit? I wanted you to. Well, it was just. I mean, even straight up, maybe people are worried and they want A.J. brown, but my point is they're not doing that. Trying to. Of course they're not going to do that. I was trying to get it done before we got to this segment because I'm super worried. Like I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

What's your number?

[Jason Moore]

An eight.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, so when we were that someone had talked about like AJ Brown for a buka. You would now probably do that.

[Jason Moore]

Man, I tell you what. I still don't think I would when I'm really, really worried. It doesn't take away the fact that A.J. brown will have monster weak winning performances. That will. That will happen. He hasn't aged out. I don't think there is a problem here other in talent. Jalen Hurts and A.J. brown, we have seen them be dominant forever. But the issue is what they are willing to do on in probably 60% of their games they're capable of doing.

[Andy Holloway]

I got a quote from A.J. brown two hours ago.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, great.

[Andy Holloway]

You want it?

[Jason Moore]

You tell me if I want it. I haven't read it yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Quote the goal is to win the game no matter what it looks like.

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't want it.

[Andy Holloway]

Unquote.

[Jason Moore]

I don't want it. You reject the call. I want a diva wide receiver that says, yeah, I'm happy We won. But you know, I can do more.

[Andy Holloway]

I got something better for you.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. In 20, 23 through two weeks, he was a total of 11 for 108.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I did.

[Andy Holloway]

Weeks three through 17, he was 94 for 13, 39 and seven.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's okay.

[Andy Holloway]

That's your good side.

[Jason Moore]

That is the absolute.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, currently he's on pace for 300 yards on the year.

[Jason Moore]

My. Yeah. And obviously that's not going to happen. All wide receivers, in fact, including A.J. brown, we have seen him disappear many times in the past and still finish as a top 10 wide receiver on those seasons. That can still happen. My biggest worry is that the changing of going from Kellen Moore to this new offensive coordinator coincides with what we saw. Week one with Dallas Goddard. Dallas Goddard was just getting these little, tiny, easy, worthless for fantasy targets. Goddard got injured, went out, and then all of a sudden, eight targets for A.J. brown last week. That's great. But they were all those same tiny, worthless targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Six and a half.

[Jason Moore]

You're going down. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Cooling off. Cool me off, Sam.

[Andy Holloway]

Six and a half.

[Mike Wright]

I got. Let me give you some names and you just.

[Jason Moore]

Let's see if we can get Andy to five to.

[Mike Wright]

Do you prefer A.J. brown or.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a great, terrible game.

[Jason Moore]

I don't like it.

[Mike Wright]

We're going to start at the top traits that I. You probably can't get done, but we're going to throw the names out anyways.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Drake, London.

[Mike Wright]

No. Zay Flowers.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I would rather.

[Andy Holloway]

I have Zay Flowers. I would rather have A.J. brown.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so do you want to do that deal?

[Jason Moore]

No, I said I would rather have A.J.

[Andy Holloway]

Brown.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. So. All right, let's go. Jason, you can't get Devonte Adams.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather have A.J.

[Mike Wright]

Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, are you. Are you on the opposite of both of those?

[Mike Wright]

I don't. I honestly don't know. I am the host right now.

[Jason Moore]

I knew you're going to say that.

[Mike Wright]

I've seen someone take that stance. Garrett Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's a good one. That one's good because I think the volume is definitely going to be on the Garrett side.

[Mike Wright]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Injury, I think I like.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

I'm the captain, man. That is really tough. I think I would rather have Gary Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. And last one, Ted roll McMillan.

[Jason Moore]

Tat. Easy.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I'm going to go try to trade that one.

[Mike Wright]

You might be able to get through because he hasn't.

[Jason Moore]

That's a good trade off.

[Mike Wright]

He hasn't blown up he's done very.

[Andy Holloway]

Very well done for the rest of the show.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. See you later.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got one goal. Devontae Smith, by the way, wide receiver 80 and 53. So it's not good for him either. And you know, do you go try to pick up Devonte Smith? He's a lot cheaper.

[Mike Wright]

I would not.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, all right.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not fire selling Devonte or Smith, but I wouldn't actively go get the.

[Andy Holloway]

Other biggest questions people are dealing with. They don't need answers necessarily. But DK Metcalf is the in every week starter. The yardage numbers have been low. What do you do with Chase Brown, the Chicago pass catchers, the Seattle Seahawks backfield and then The Starvin Harrison Jr. Will ever get more targets. Is it his fault? Is it Kyler's fault? That one I think Mike can speak at briefly.

[Mike Wright]

I can.

[Andy Holloway]

You've talked about it on the Dynasty show but I would like to know you went back and watched all the film you kept randomly exclaiming man, Kyler sucks. But go on.

[Mike Wright]

I mean I talk about it at length in this week's Dynasty pod that dropped today. The TLDR is I have some pretty strong concerns of they're using him. They're not getting him anything easy. He had a couple opportunities where just the dog meter looked very, very low of a player who's not willing to fight for it. And then the like I said, all these deep routes and they're running some deep posts and the times where it looks like there's a window over the linebacker in between the backer and the safety, Kyler's just won't take it. So I have concerns that it might just be last year slightly better.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. Well we have Thursday night game to get to still right now.

[Jason Moore]

Thursday night breakdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you trade A.J. brown for Rome a dunesday? I'm sure you would.

[Jason Moore]

Sure I would.

[Andy Holloway]

I bet you would.

[Jason Moore]

That one is very scary. I saw it come through in slack and I didn't want to answer it. So I'm not taking any more questions.

[Andy Holloway]

He is now hosting. All right, Thursday night. Oh boy. Miami, you're owing to and you get to go to Buffalo on Thursday night and play the Bills the Vegas line. Buffalo minus 12 and a half. The over unders 49 and a half. Yeah, the 1212 plus point favorites have won 89% of the time in the last decade. Buffalo is 12 and one is 12 point favorites. There are have been some injuries to the defensive side of the football for Buffalo. I think two major ones Announced this morning. If somebody wants to vet that for me and let me know those names again, I think one is. What is it? Matt Milano and I think one more name so you can somebody find that? But Miami gets to try to. Ed Oliver, was it? Yeah, yeah. They get to try to figure things out. I think Mike McDaniel said something about to win the game, you got to win it and not lose it. That seems. That seems like you're on.

[Mike Wright]

That dude is done. Yeah, he's out.

[Andy Holloway]

It went from endearing to sad.

[Jason Moore]

This was talked about when I remember years ago, all these little conferences with this cute little quips. People then were saying, this is really nice right now while things are good, but this act will not hold up at all or be tolerated.

[Andy Holloway]

When Footmonster said the same thing.

[Jason Moore]

Teams are losing. It's like you just can't. You can't be smarmy and like that. You know when things are going bad.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, sarcasm is. You got to know when to use it.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Josh Allen, in his career, if it helps the equation, they've Destroyed the dolphins 12 and 2. Never lost at home against them. It's really, really hard to see this game going different than the way it looks in the Vegas line. Josh Allen, you play him. James Cook has been incredible. You play him. Will they need to use Keon Coleman? I mean, right now Shakir and Kincaid are completely unstartable. Keon Coleman is the only one with this.

[Mike Wright]

Like he's like the.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe we are excited about it. The defensive injuries. Maybe you could get more of a, you know, more opportunity for Miami to put some points up. Miami did not look as bad at all last week. They are also the highest pass rate in the entire National Football League. So A Chan, he's getting so many targets. Tyreek, last week he got it done. Jalen Waddle, same story. Not surprising. He's limited twice this week with a shoulder injury. And of course Darren Waller is just in Miami for the vibes. He's not playing.

[Mike Wright]

So it's ramping up.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it's not a very complicated fantasy matchup.

[Mike Wright]

It's just.

[Andy Holloway]

Do we get more excitement in this game and we know that, you know, Buffalo can win the game without Josh Allen too. Last week, 11 fantasy points for Josh Allen after a 50 point week. They didn't need him. He wasn't playing Baltimore. They just manhandled the jets and James Cook went crazy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it took a. It took a kind of like an all timer run from James Cook where it turned into whatever it was the 40 or 50 yard touchdown. So I think it's. Yeah, this is an easy game. Of the people that you. That you play, you're going to play. It's Keon Coleman, I guess, is really just the hardest decision. Are you where the snaps went down?

[Andy Holloway]

IO Manor or Keon Coleman?

[Jason Moore]

Ooh.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're at the bottom of the barrel, Double flex.

[Mike Wright]

I'd still go with Coleman.

[Jason Moore]

I would as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. I mean, it's not like I said.

[Mike Wright]

He'S going to get us with an IO manner Question 1 of these weeks, Jay. And we're going to have to say I.O. manor.

[Jason Moore]

No. And the thing is, is I really want it said. I o Manor looks great. He looks like a very, very good rookie wide receiver who is on the field. I believe in the talent. I'm very anti what I've seen out of Cam Ward so far.

[Andy Holloway]

Rookie man.

[Jason Moore]

I like the guy, too.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think he's a good. I think he. You think about the scale of rookie quarterbacks and how they play to start the year? I don't think it's been. He's not been at the bottom end of that. He's had two tough matchups.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. He's had two tough matchups.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's held up okay. I mean, it's.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, man, he's completed 43% of his passes, 58% of his passes, hasn't hit 200 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

No. That. All of that is fair. And I think that the thing with I.O. manor is not, you know, we're not having the conversation about. It's not the. It's not the Ridley conversation where it's like, okay, statistically, it's very, very difficult for a rookie quarterback to hold up a wide receiver one and give you those monster numbers if they're not named. Steve Smith. Right. We've looked at those numbers. IO Manor. We're just talking about a flex play.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Can you get a flex play at some point during the year?

[Mike Wright]

We do have an interesting snap.

[Andy Holloway]

Counts are helpful.

[Mike Wright]

We have an interesting flex question that Matt put into the chat, but I'm going to make him read it on the microphone. Oh, my God. What's your question?

[Andy Holloway]

Henderson or Coleman in my flex.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

He just.

[Mike Wright]

He held it to like three words.

[Jason Moore]

Nice. Very good. So. And he had to have it written out.

[Mike Wright]

Trevo. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

That was also part of the help.

[Mike Wright]

Travo or Keon Coleman in your flex? That is a fascinating question.

[Andy Holloway]

I think, because I'm hosting. I won't answer that one.

[Jason Moore]

I would go Keon. At this moment, I would go Keon Coleman. I expect great things from Trayvon Henderson as the season opens up and progresses. It could happen as early.

[Andy Holloway]

I might.

[Jason Moore]

I might go Travion, but with the.

[Mike Wright]

I'd play Travion against the Pittsburgh Steelers with the.

[Jason Moore]

I forgot the match.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Ramadre is going to cook.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I need him so bad this week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe at one point in last week and I said something like I'd start a retired player over Ramondre. I think I said that on the show.

[Jason Moore]

Whoops.

[Andy Holloway]

And I mean, look, all it took.

[Mike Wright]

Was three egregious holding penalties.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. By Travion.

[Mike Wright]

Huh?

[Jason Moore]

Breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

We did get update that Jaden Daniels, while he's had a good rehab session, he's not going to practice until Friday at the earliest. And so Marcus Mariota could very well be starting for the Commanders.

[Mike Wright]

So the week. The week Mariota has played. Okay, I'm trying to. When did we see him? You saw him at length in week seven last year against Carolina and he. I probably 202.

[Jason Moore]

Is he playing against Carolina again?

[Mike Wright]

I don't think so.

[Andy Holloway]

It would not make me feel. I mean, Terry McLaurin right now. If there's not an unsolved mystery about him, I'd be worried about Terry McLaurin in general.

[Jason Moore]

That one feels solved.

[Andy Holloway]

That feels solved. I mean, Debo gets short area targets from Mariota. That won't be a worry. He'll also probably get carries.

[Mike Wright]

Do not love the holdouts. No, do not love the holdouts.

[Andy Holloway]

He loves it because he got a lot of money.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. No, he did what he had to. This Washington's fault. Like you. This was your leader.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And you're looking at.

[Andy Holloway]

And you paid him anyways.

[Mike Wright]

Imagine your team this year without him. Then you go full stop. Okay, let's figure it out. Just get him on the practice field. It's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. All right, we'll take a break. We'll jump into smailbang.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Well, it wouldn't be a Wednesday without some mailbag coming your way. Here we go.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we got some voicemail questions in there for today's episode. If you want to submit one to us, you can dial the voicemail hotline, 302464, TFFB. You can also go to the website the fantasy footballers.com, click that submit a question button. We'll start with a voicemail. Hey, ballers, what's going on? It's Randy from Tandem Springs, Louisiana.

[Mike Wright]

I was wondering, should I start Dravion.

[Andy Holloway]

Henderson or Zach Charbonnet at a full PPR league? Thanks. Love the show. Great show. I can't get over the fact that we are now we have two different Hennessys playing football. We've got Derek Hennessey and now we got Travion Hennessy.

[Mike Wright]

Beautiful. So full PPR start. Trevo Henderson against Pitt or Zach Charbonnet against the Saints.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, boy.

[Jason Moore]

Perfect matchup for Charbonnet. The style of play, the up and the.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think if you are no.

[Jason Moore]

Targets so far on week one or two for Charbonnet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a tough.

[Mike Wright]

Seahawks are heavy favorites at home.

[Andy Holloway]

Eileen Charbonnet. And if you're. If you're saying, you know, no context to my matchup, do I need a ceiling play? If I was a heavy underdog, I'm probably not playing sharpen. I'll probably try Travion and hope I catch. You know, you get a screen pass for 67 yards and a touchdown. But otherwise I think. I think Charbonnet is the safer play.

[Mike Wright]

I.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason looks like he doesn't want to answer that one either.

[Jason Moore]

I just want to hear what Mike.

[Mike Wright]

It's a really, really tough question. If I had them both. Oh, he was so bad.

[Jason Moore]

He was so bad. And what's ironic is we're talking about the Charlotte.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Charbonnet.

[Andy Holloway]

We're talking about Travion was so bad, too.

[Mike Wright]

Well, Henderson just didn't get to play.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a bad thing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jason Moore]

Ironically, we're talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers matchup and how they have not been good against the run and they haven't. But that was who you know, not just Kenneth Walker played them last week sharpening.

[Mike Wright]

He did. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Against the Steelers last week when he went 15 carries for 10 yards.

[Mike Wright]

It's very impressive.

[Jason Moore]

Coach said.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, he said he played good football.

[Jason Moore]

Played good football.

[Mike Wright]

I think I'll.

[Andy Holloway]

He played good football the week before, that's for sure. I think I'll play Charbs rest of season. Question from Colby in Texas. Knowing Aaron Jones and Burrow are now out, who scores more points, Jordan Mason or Chase Brown? Rest of season. So Aaron Jones out.

[Jason Moore]

It's still going to be. It's still going to be Chase Brown. I think that's a pretty easy Aaron Jones for me, simply because.

[Andy Holloway]

You mean Jordan. Wait, Aaron Jones.

[Jason Moore]

It's a Chase Brown. Chase Brown. A very simple Chase Brown for me.

[Mike Wright]

You made it very not simple.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I did. The total weapons there I think are better. We've seen Jake Browning be able to move the ball. You've got Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, and you should. We don't know for sure with Browning if Chase Brown will be involved in the passing game, but we know he usually is involved in the passing game. Jordan Mason has never in his career been involved in the passing game, and I don't expect that to change. With Aaron Jones out, they did sign Cam Acres to the practice squad. He was part of the team last year. And I don't think that's Jordan.

[Mike Wright]

Who has more receptions through two weeks, Chase Brown or Jordan Mason?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was going to say it's been. I'm looking at the Chase Brown numbers.

[Jason Moore]

You would only ask that if it was Jordan Mason. But I'm still Chase Brown.

[Mike Wright]

It is, but it's.

[Andy Holloway]

Chase Brown has 2. 2 for 8, 2 for 18, and his yards per attempt are 2 and 2.9. Through two weeks, it's been bad. The snap counts have been great, though.

[Mike Wright]

It's just funny if Jordan Mason has caught three passes, but he. It's not fantastic. I'm still going to take Chase Brown, but over the short term, I would take Jordan Mason for these next couple weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yo, yo, yo, ballers.

[Andy Holloway]

Jimmy from California. My question for you all is, do I play Kyler Murray this week or Jordan Love? Thanks. Love the show.

[Mike Wright]

Kyler Murray or Jordan Love? You got Kyler at San Francisco and you have Jordan Love at Cleveland.

[Andy Holloway]

I want a chance at a big play, and to me, Jordan Love is a big play. Kyler Murray is annoying. He's very, very, very annoying. And guess what? Guess who's starting him this week in our league of record. I am.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no. I'm so sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You know who tried really hard not to last week? And played Justin Fields like a dummy. I will do anything. I will do almost anything to not play Kyler. I just. But I. But I'm going to play him this week. Jordan. I don't have Jordan Love.

[Mike Wright]

The Cleveland Browns on the road mean that is the scary matchup. I think it's. It's scarier for Jacobs as the Cleveland Browns front has shut down. You know, running game two year or two weeks in a row. Jordan Love the way that they are playing. He looks like he's back like this looks like Jordan Love from two years ago where they're. I mean, at least I could just for myself last year I was very excited for Jordan Love. Then he got hurt in week one and then got hurt again and it just. It never came through. He's healthy right now and I think that Jordan Love, Jordan Love can work his way in in the next couple of weeks. People won't even ask these questions. It'll just be, oh, I start. I have Jordan Love. So that's my starter and that's how I would treat him this week, especially.

[Andy Holloway]

Over Kyler Ian in Florida. Should I trade Chase Brown Jason for Breeze Hall? I think that's a really good question.

[Jason Moore]

I think so. I think Breeze had a down week this last week. The whole jets team did. But he still had some runs that showed that juice that we saw in week one with the Joe Burrow injury. I think I'm on the brief side.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, Liam wants to know he's from Massachusetts. Is it worth trying to trade T. Higgins for Xavier Worthy?

[Mike Wright]

T. Higgins for word? No, I would keep T. Higgins.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I guess that that's probably a Browning reaction. Ryan in Canton, Ohio. Hey guys, I'm starting Caleb Williams this week after losing Burrow. Would you start a Dunes A for the Stack over Garrett Wilson or DK Metcalf? I would start him over Metcalf.

[Mike Wright]

I.

[Andy Holloway]

The way that they look the past two weeks with Metcalf, like Metcalf has been weird.

[Mike Wright]

Metcalf has been Metcalf. I got hoodwinked.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, are you going to do this? He's on your team.

[Mike Wright]

Of course I will.

[Jason Moore]

He's.

[Mike Wright]

I drafted him so he was 4 for 83. When he's great, I will love him and when he's disappointing, I will go back and continue to not like him.

[Andy Holloway]

Tom pace for 110 targets. Not quite as high as we'd hope. He had three for 20 last week, but the. The offense looked bad. So would you play a Dunes over Metcalf? I would.

[Jason Moore]

I would for sure Odunze has. I mean, he. He is a must start at this point. He's had three touchdowns in the first two weeks. The matchup this week against Dallas appears very, very good.

[Mike Wright]

It is currently the second highest over. Under of the week. It's over 50. And the Bears are. Let's. They. I think they. They were favorites. I think they're now a half point dog. So that's going to go back and forth. I think I'd play him over Garrett.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. I think I would as well. I want to ask Andy a question because we've been on today's episode, we've asked a lot of questions that we have not enjoyed.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you trying to do that to me?

[Jason Moore]

And I want to do that. I want to do that.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm hosting about this. Let me put on my glasses.

[Jason Moore]

Now you talk all the time about how the Arizona Cardinals should have drafted Malik Neighbors because he's so much better.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

How about Roma Dunes A over Marvin Harrison? Yeah, yeah. Feel it. Who's the better wide receiver? Marvin Harrison Jr. Or Roma Dunes A?

[Andy Holloway]

We're now at the point where the conversation with Marvin Harrison is rotating.

[Jason Moore]

Knife in the side.

[Andy Holloway]

It's rotating to the, like, devonte Adams story. That's where I'm at. I'm trying to get the year three. Oh, maybe next year. Like Marv does. Not presently. Yeah, he doesn't have the dog right now. You can't go up for a. Or go up. I mean, it's barely saying go up. He didn't even give an effort for an end zone.

[Mike Wright]

He kind of gently fell backwards.

[Andy Holloway]

He's humongous, but doesn't play humongous. So Roma Dunes there. Marvin. I'll leave it.

[Mike Wright]

How you feeling about that Cats, though? This is really fun to do.

[Jason Moore]

It feels good, too. It's a great way to make fun of somebody, you know, who does not have meow from their perspective.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Well, look, here's a guy who does not have the kitty cat. He's got the dog. Tony wants to know, would you trade Zay Flowers, who's looked amazing so far.

[Mike Wright]

He has.

[Jason Moore]

And Cam Scatter Boo, who looked great last week and took over the snaps for A.J.

[Andy Holloway]

Brown.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, I would not.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think I do that either. I mean, Zay Flowers. Zay Flowers right now. Do you know. Do you know what his target pace is? Take a shot.

[Mike Wright]

Outrageous.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason the guesser. Go ahead.

[Jason Moore]

Hold on. I was reading a trade off for, say, that question.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my gosh. To you or from you to me?

[Mike Wright]

I Was reading a trade off.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it Ted McMillan?

[Jason Moore]

It was with that team.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Moore]

He countered with completely different stuff that I don't want Anyways. What was the question?

[Andy Holloway]

How many targets? You should do a podcast right now. You're real focused in Zay Flowers target pace right now. Oh, through, through. After two weeks of football, I mean, he's got to be near the league lead and receiving yardage.

[Mike Wright]

Somebody.

[Andy Holloway]

Somebody looked that up.

[Jason Moore]

And see the 170 targets on the dot.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on.

[Jason Moore]

For real.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on. Yeah, it's 170. That's the pace.

[Mike Wright]

Nice. Good guess. That's why I brought him up. Of like, I don't know that you get that done. Just a one for one. If you send an offer of AJ Brown for flowers, I think that gets rejected in a lot of places.

[Andy Holloway]

So right now, your top five. This is always fun through a couple of weeks. Top five receiving yards, do you know who they are?

[Mike Wright]

Flowers. Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Flowers is five. Malik Neighbors is number one. Jsn. Number two. Lamb, number three. Puka, number four, Zay Flowers, number five. And just for the record, you're rushing leaders right now. One of these is going to just.

[Jason Moore]

Make you.

[Andy Holloway]

Number one, Jonathan Taylor. Not surprising.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Number three, Derek Henry. Number four, James Cook. Number five, Bijon Robinson, number two, Etienne. Travis Etn. Yeah, Travis Etn is number two.

[Mike Wright]

Number six is also wild. Tony Pollard.

[Jason Moore]

He had 100.

[Andy Holloway]

Boy, those are some boring yards.

[Jason Moore]

At least 90 rushing yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are some boring yards.

[Mike Wright]

Tony, how are you that productive? And so bad for fantasy, I mean, I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

Top five passers.

[Mike Wright]

He's not getting any. Tony Pollard is not getting targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Russell Wilson, number one.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Daniel Jones, number two. Herbert 3. Golf 4. Dak 5. Russell Wilson, number 31. Jalen Hurts.

[Mike Wright]

There's someone worse.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be Justin Fields.

[Jason Moore]

He didn't play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he mostly did.

[Andy Holloway]

Bo Nix, 25 in passing year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Week one was brutal.

[Andy Holloway]

Interesting. Spencer Rattler is at 21.

[Jason Moore]

So you know who's.

[Mike Wright]

They got moxie, man.

[Jason Moore]

You know who's been. They do great.

[Andy Holloway]

So much moxie.

[Jason Moore]

We're talking about all these, like, okay, through two weeks, who's got the most yards, who's on a great target pace. But I want to give a shout out. Obviously, we know he's a great player, but CD Lamb, who's a top 12 wide receiver right now? He's. You look at all these lists of all these receptions and yards. He's the only one without a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You know, even Puka had his rushing touchdown. Everybody's been in the paint CD is hanging with them without that and obviously touchdowns will come.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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