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Week 1 Start/Sit + TNF Preview, Super Bowl Picks - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/3
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Fantasy Football show for Sep 3, 2025. Tough decisions for Week 1 lineups! Which rookies can you trust? Andy, Mike, and Jason answer a number of start/sit questions and give their Super Bowl predictions! Plus, NFL News, and IR spot strategy for the 2025 fantasy football season. Manage your redraft, keeper, and dynasty fantasy football teams with the #1 fantasy football podcast.
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Jason Moore
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Podcast Announcer
Studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the fantasy footballers podC cast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
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Andy Holloway
Welcome in.
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Jason Moore
It's close.
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Andy Holloway
It's almost football time. Wednesday, September 3rd the fantasy footballers Podcast. Jason Moore is here. Mike the Fantasy Hitman. I'm Andy Holloway and we are back.
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Jason Moore
I was pretty upset last night that there was no football game going on.
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Andy Holloway
That's weird because it wasn't scheduled to.
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Jason Moore
No, but it's so close.
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Mike Wright
It was a Tuesday, right?
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Andy Holloway
You think just if something's close, it might as well be that day. Like Christmas is the 21st or something.
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Jason Moore
All my drafts had completed and so it was time.
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Andy Holloway
Now it was like, okay, the league waits on you.
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Jason Moore
Right? Like, okay, I've got teams, let's watch them play.
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Andy Holloway
That does make sense. I guess you're not in the Megalobol draft going on right this moment.
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Jason Moore
I'm not. I did my megaloval draft last night.
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Andy Holloway
Okay, well, they're all done. I'll ping the league. We'll see if they can get things move up schedule.
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Jason Moore
Just, you know, maybe, maybe play tonight.
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Mike Wright
Just bump that up one night.
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Andy Holloway
Well, you're not going to have to wait much longer. I. I'm pretty excited about it. And we've got super bowl picks we're going to talk about today. I just had to do a little glance here. The first waiver wire of our league of record ran and you, you went out and you got Xavier Legat because that's what you wanted to do.
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Mike Wright
I sure did.
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Andy Holloway
I guess it was all additions and it's perfect timing because nobody dropped anybody. So how did they add people? Well, that's what our first segment of the show is going to be about today. Some players that you can stash on IR and open up a waiver wire spot for. So we'll get into that momentarily. Want to invite everybody to check out the website. All the week one content is available. All the free content, the weekly rankings, the Start Sit tool, tons of amazing articles from our incredible staff of writers that go up every single week. And they go to bat4u, finding insights and analysis and data and stats and things that will help you win each and every week. You can also take advantage of the Foot Clan tools and resources, including the Ultimate Dashboard, which is a weekly lineup optimization tool. It also gives you spot starts and waiver pickups and things like that. We've got the expanded Start Sit tool available to you. A bonus weekly episode of the show. Bonus. And you know, we do a bonus mailbag episode for the Foot Clan Bonus. You can learn all about that. It's not. The show's less creepy than Mike is right now, I promise.
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Mike Wright
Still a little creepy, but still a little. You're the one who keeps saying bonus.
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Andy Holloway
Yeah, well, bonus JoinTheFoot.com is where you go for that. And if you've purchased a UDK and you want to ultimate membership, we'll give you a dollar for dollar credit for the Ultimate Draft Kit. Just make sure you're logged in. Go to the website jointhefoot.com youm'll see the credit right there above the ultimate package. And then you check out and you're good to go with the Ultimate Dashboard. All right, let's jump in.
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Podcast Announcer
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Andy Holloway
Oh, that's. That's a really nice drop, Mike.
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Mike Wright
Sometimes it's spicy.
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Andy Holloway
Little bonus drop.
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Jason Moore
Yeah. Bonus.
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Andy Holloway
All right, today on the backup options segment, I wanted to focus on a handful of players that I want people to, you know, put them on the ir, open up a spot, maybe they're already on waivers and you can just go add them off of waivers, put them on the IR and pick up another player. But basically everybody that's eligible for IR right now, I'm going to bring up the name. But then I want you guys to tell me also whether you think their return will impact the incumbent, the player that is kind of gotcha standing in for them right now, or at least playing alongside them. We'll start with Tajie Spears running back for the Titans. A high ankle sprain on the PUP Tony Pollard jettisoned up draft boards. Tajie Spears, you can tuck him away. Obviously Tawny Pollard, he's not a young running back. You could get to the point where his efficiency is worse than Spears. Do you think the return of Tajie Spears will affect Tony Pollard?
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Jason Moore
It'll definitely have an effect on Tony Pollard the first month of the season. Pollard gets to be a complete workhorse, split very little work and have an opportunity to be great for fantasy football when Tajay comes back. You know they talked all off season they wanted it to be a 5050 split, but they said that last year as well. And then it was like, well, you can't really 5050 split when one guy is clearly better than the other and you're trying to win games. And I expect that to happen. But they will, they will split the work. So Tony Pollard gets like a month long bump and then Taj Spears when he comes back. I think he's a worthy guy to have. You never know a month from now what running back is going to be injured anyways.
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Andy Holloway
All right, I'll go back and forth here, Mike. So I'm going to ask you. There are two wide receivers for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers that are going to be on IR. Jalen McMillan, the rookie from last year who had a great end of the season for fantasy. He's on IR for quite some time. He could be a stash if you found him valuable. But also Chris Godwin. Anybody that drafted Chris Godwin, he's not on the no, but he's going to be marked out every week. That might be difficult to manage with your roster if they move from out to doubtful or probable for a period of time. But once he's ruled out in week one, you can put him on the IR. Add somebody when Godwin returns, when McMillan returns. What is your view of Egbuca because he's going to have such a huge opportunity to start the year.
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Jason Moore
I would just throw Kate Otten on that list as well. Another guy who pro who can get some work done. He. Well, he might be missing this first week.
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Mike Wright
Oh, that's so that is correct.
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Andy Holloway
I thought he was bad.
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Jason Moore
He. Well, they didn't, they didn't put him on the ir. But it's not known whether he's going to play in week one or not. So it's possible this week, Week one, you've got three pass catchers missing for the gotcha.
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Andy Holloway
All right, Mike, like the way I.
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Mike Wright
Want it zoomed out is Jaylen McMillan. I mean what was the last thing we heard?
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Andy Holloway
Like eight or nine weeks.
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Mike Wright
Eight or nine weeks. It's a neck injury. Those are. You can't mess around with a neck injury. The nice thing though is like if he is healthy, he's actually back. You know you don't lower body injuries where it takes a while to come back. You would think if he's back, he's back and he's ready to go but that's just such a long time and he's. I expect him to be buried. Chris Godwin is far more difficult because I do see see the situation shaking out that he won't be marked out. I mean this will be the you'll. You'll have him in your ir. The, the week will flip over and you're going to have to get those, you know, your waiver moves in. What is it real quick before, before he gets switched back to doubtful or questionable because they're not going to rule him out until I don't know what probably Thursday or Friday every single week. So you're going to have this. You're going to have a very tricky roster management situation of not being able to set a lineup of especially it's really going to mess you up with like Thursday night players. So I guess that's just, you know.
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Andy Holloway
Well, you can do it.
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Mike Wright
The tip is like if you're going to have Godwin when you're putting your waiver wire moves in you better set your lineup. Like you better make sure that your Thursday night players are out of your flex because he's once waivers run he's going to be flipped to not out and you're not going to be able to make a move.
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Andy Holloway
But then by the end of the week you can move him into oh and add a spot for the week.
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Mike Wright
And one of the flights. Yeah, you definitely will be able to do that.
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Andy Holloway
But it's like but the question on Igbuka okay, that's what I wanted the answer on what do you think of Igbuka if he starts strong are you willing to move him because you know it's going to become more clogged in the passing game.
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Mike Wright
I wouldn't the if a buca were a day to like a wide receiver 3 who's just you know really taking advantage of a lack of targets or you know with the superstar players out. But Abuka was was drafted with the plan to be great as a wise man said drafted to be great. So I'm not moving A book. I'm just the. I'm more concerned actually for just Godwin overall, of like, what if Mike Evans and a book are cooking and it takes Godwin multiple weeks to get back in, then I think you have, and you're going to be holding on for Godwin forever. And it just seems like a really troubling situation.
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Andy Holloway
All right, well, they did just pay him. That's the further that they want him in the plans. But you're right, he was a slow starter back from injury last time. Jalen Coker, wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers. The Thielen trade opened up a spot for him. Then a major quad injury. Four to six weeks is the expectation. Coker is on a lot of. Yeah, his major quad is hurting. Not the minor quad. Coker will be on ir. He's on waiver wire in our league of record. You could add him, you could throw him onto the IR spot and you could wait, is it worth it? And then how do you look at, you know, Xavier Legat? Jason just picked him up in the hopes that maybe he gets more work to Tavian Sanders, Hunter Renfro, and then obviously Ted McMillan should start strong. Coker's a name you can throw on ir. But will it affect Leggett? I think so.
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Jason Moore
I don't think it will affect Leggett that much because I think they're going to operate in different areas of the field. Like Hunter Renfro, to me, is the guy that when, when Jalen Coker comes back, I think, I think Adam Thielen leaving really opened things up for Coker. And it was like, oh, wow, okay, maybe you want Coker more than Legat. And then Coker had a really serious quad injury, apparently. Major, major, major quad injury. I mean, obviously, anytime that someone comes in and can take targets, it could come at the expense of other players. But I think that just the. Where they're operating on the field, Leggette's going to get his kind of contested catch, deep field stuff, red zone targets. And Coker is going to be more the possession guy that will fight with Renfro for that job.
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Andy Holloway
See, there was very few players I was less impressed with than Xavier Leggett last year. He was, I think, a terrible, it was a terrible rookie season, production wise. It was terrible catch percentage wise. He dropped a ton of passes. I, I do wonder whether he'll be as much of a focal point in this offense as I think it's going to be a lot of gadgetry.
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Jason Moore
Well, he'll have to now. I Mean, with, without Coker and without Adam Thielen now he could still fail. He could, he could, I mean he is necessary to this offense. And then he could go out there and still stink and, you know, catch 58% of his passes and not move the needle for you. I don't, I didn't pick up Leggette because I'm like, man, he was so good. It's just he's a year two wide receiver who was a first round draft pick who now has opportunity ahead of him.
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Mike Wright
It's just a pathway and it's the, you know, remember where Leggett came from of when we were talking about him as a prospect. If you weren't around for us talking about that. We had great caution for him because his production profile, like he was just pure nothingness for what, like four years?
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Jason Moore
For four full. For a whole college, you know, the.
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Mike Wright
Old year five breakout in college, which he was dominant that one year. It was. How did, how was this guy not doing anything? He was just so athletic. But it was a major red flag that, that it was, it took that long for him to break out. You know, he's the older guy beating up on kids. And then Carolina took the risk with the, the first round pick. So I still question whether or not he's going to work.
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Andy Holloway
He played 70, 70% of snaps last year, had 84 targets, 49 catches for 497. And we'll get, he'll get an opportunity to start the year to make a big impact. All right, some other names. Joe Mixon. Obviously Joe Mixon is an IR stash.
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Mike Wright
If you're playing for 20, 26.
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Andy Holloway
I mean, if. I know, I know. It's like Mixon's been such a storyline. It's like we just don't know. We don't know if he'll be like. They say they're going to try him out after four weeks, but he could be out the whole year. That's what the vibes feel like right now. Nick Chubb, Damien Pierce, those are the next men up. They didn't add somebody, they haven't added somebody else. If you want to find a possible positive angle for Mixon, it's that they haven't gone and signed another back and obviously he's not on year ending IR or anything like that. So Mixon's an easy player to draft and stash late. But Nick Chubb, Damien Pierce, you just.
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Jason Moore
Got to take a shot. No one has the inside track as to whether or not Pierce is going to be good or Whether Chubb's going to be good. I think we all presume that the likeliest outcome is that neither one of these players are going to actually be a huge difference maker. I believe myself and Andy are probably on the Chubb side first.
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Mike Wright
Yeah, well, I, yeah, I'd start with Chubb.
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Andy Holloway
Part of the reason is that if Chubb is back in any real capacity, it's, it's very, very obviously good for fantasy. It's like he's going to be the goal line back. He, he, he's got a history and a pedigree of being successful. Like Damian Pierce, I feel will always be in a committee with Chubb. I feel like if Chubb was really good, it wouldn't be the other direction.
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Jason Moore
No, I agree. That's how I see it. So again, I don't expect Chubb to be great at this stage of his career off the injuries he's had, but if one of them were to have a breakout, I would be surprised if it's Damian Pierce.
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Andy Holloway
Brandon iuk, who has been drafted in every draft I'm in, I think begrudgingly in some ways, but a superstar and a player that got a huge contract coming off the acl, not really competition in the wide receiver room. I mean, Ricky Pearsall is an unproven sophomore who should have a successful start to the year. Juan Jennings, yes. He's going to be a role player. He's dealing with a calf injury and he wants a contract. So how long will he be there and happy? But what do you think of the 49ers? Brandon Ayuk, he's an easy stash on IR, but Pearsall, if he has a strong start, are you just sticking with him?
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Jason Moore
Yeah, I think if Peirsol shows out early, you know, early on, then he's just leveled up. And I could see Brandon IUK coming back and Pearsall still being the one over iuk. When IU came back last year, he wasn't doing great things on the field. He got the big contract and got paid to do great things, but didn't and then got injured. So he. I expect a slower start, but obviously everything we love with the 49ers schedule, the offense, the reason we like George Kittle and Juwan Jennings and all this is because there is huge opportunity here. So IUK could certainly come back and make a difference, but I'm not bullish on him.
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Andy Holloway
One of the most, if not the most ignored IR stash is Christian Watson, wide receiver for the Packers. We have talked at length about Jaden Reed's foot injury. He could get shut down at some point or just be ineffective. Already limited snap counts. I think we can simultaneously respect Romeo Dobbs, but also acknowledge that he's probably a role player.
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Mike Wright
Sure.
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Andy Holloway
Who will have maybe a big role in the beginning of the year. Matthew golden, unproven. A rookie, I think will be the one. But Christian Watson can be tucked away. He will be back from the ACL injury. Do you have any interest in him at all?
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Mike Wright
That one's. Honestly just. When. When is he back? Because he. When he tore his acl, I think.
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Andy Holloway
I hear like four weeks.
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Jason Moore
I would be surprised.
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Mike Wright
That is real question.
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Jason Moore
He had the additional damage. Yeah, he. He had the ACL plus additional damage. So. And those usually take a little bit of time.
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Andy Holloway
I'm seeing early November.
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Mike Wright
Yeah.
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Andy Holloway
Or mid October.
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Mike Wright
Okay. That. That. That makes almost.
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Andy Holloway
Maybe that's more like six weeks.
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Mike Wright
He. It's interesting to bring him up because it's, you know, like both him and Brandon Iuk are, you know, a destroyed knee and people were. We were spending the whole off season, like do not draft Brandon.
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Mike Wright
You can round seven or whatever his ADP is. It's just. It's not a good investment of when he's actually going to come back. And meanwhile, Watson is, you know, not drafted. He. I feel like he's just going to clog your ir. If you have, if you have two spots, okay, maybe. But if you have one IR spot, I wouldn't be holding him.
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Jason Moore
Also, if you have IR spots. This is the whole point of this segment and it's really about strategy. You should have someone on it. You should. You're getting a free player. Like if, if one of these players is on waivers, you take your bottom guy on your team and drop them and pick him up and put them on IR and take another shot.
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Andy Holloway
And then Marshawn Lloyd, don't forget about him. Even though it's easy to do so because he lives on the ir.
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Mike Wright
Yeah.
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Andy Holloway
He won't be able to play until week six because the packers have a week five buy. So four weeks on the pup. Week five. The reality of the situation there in Green Bay is that if something happens to Josh Jacobs, it would be Lloyd that I would want.
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Jason Moore
He was making waves.
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Mike Wright
He was.
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Jason Moore
He was making waves. And the camp reports, once he actually got. Because he started injured again and then got back out to camp and then was wowing people and then wowed his body too much.
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Mike Wright
So how do you rank stashing these players.
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Jason Moore
Of everyone we talked about? Yeah, I Would say Tajie Spears is the number one.
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Mike Wright
Yeah.
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Jason Moore
Maybe Jalen Coker sticks out to me high up there. Iuk, where are you?
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Mike Wright
Where are you with Mixon?
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Jason Moore
Mixon, to me, doesn't really count because Mixon was drafted in every draft at a place where it's like, he's not on waivers. I'm not going to pick him up. He's, you know, you could say Mixon is probably the most valuable player of all of these. I just don't consider him in the group with, you know, Tajay and Coker and Marshawn Lloyd. And these guys are probably on waivers in, you know, a third of leagues right now.
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Mike Wright
If. And I look, I know there's people out there. That's impossible. I. There's going to be leagues out there where mixing will be dropped, like, just because home leagues, crazy stuff happens.
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Jason Moore
Especially if you don't have an ir.
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Mike Wright
Yeah.
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Jason Moore
So do you pick him up if you don't have an ir?
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Mike Wright
No, I would. I would not.
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Jason Moore
It feels dumb, but I still would.
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Andy Holloway
I don't think I would do it. I. You know, Rashi Rice is that guy. Like, we didn't bring him up because you can't put him on an ir. He's going to have six weeks of clogging a bench spot. That's going to hurt. Like, even this morning. Like, I really wanted to pick up a couple of waiver guys, and I just didn't want to drop the players that are on my roster right now. If you have a player not being productive every week, it's going to feel worse and worse with the waiver wire. So, yeah, I probably wouldn't on mixing. Jason would. But you can make the call. All right, that was backup options sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote Today at progressive.com we'll take a break. We'll hit the news. Oh, Gekko, I just love being able to file a claim in under two minutes with the Geico app. Could you sign a Sign what? The app. Yeah, sure. Oh, it rubbed off the screen when I touched it. Could you sign it again? Anything to help, I suppose. Get more than just savings. Get more with Geico.
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Andy Holloway
All right, let's talk about some news.
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Andy Holloway
It wouldn't be week one without unofficial depth chart overreaction. So let's get into it. Let's bring you those depth charts, and let's just watch you react. I want facial expressions for the YouTube audience.
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Mike Wright
Okay.
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Andy Holloway
Bill Crosky.
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Mike Wright
Oh, no.
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Andy Holloway
Bill Crosby was listed as Washington's running back for. There's not even a guarantee they dress for, but certainly they could dress Bill and not dress McNichols. It was ordered.
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Mike Wright
That's the funniest part.
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Andy Holloway
It was ordered in H. I'm just saying it was Echler, McNichols, veteran Chris Rodriguez, Bill. So overreaction, underreaction. What do you think, Bill? RB4. Do you care?
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Jason Moore
I don't care that much. We see this every year where a lot of times rookies will start on their unofficial depth charts behind other people. And then week one comes and it's like, well, that's. That was just literally like paper honor. And now with Bill specifically. With Bill specifically, we. We kind of have been saying he is likely behind some other people on the depth chart. So this one was like, not even surprising.
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Mike Wright
The.
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Andy Holloway
Everything about Bill is. Do you believe that the player is special? That's. That's what it seems to come down to. It's like the people that love Bill, love and are impressed with him and think he's on a different level than the other running backs. If you don't believe that and you just look at draft capital or depth chart or any of the other, you know, the collegiate stuff, I think you're out. But if you believe in the talent, I get it. Like, I understand why you'd be in that place. It's not like Chris Rodriguez hasn't had years to establish McNichols years. And Echler is. He's a good running back, but he's not what he was a long time ago, so committee is at best what he is.
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Mike Wright
The. The scariest part, I think, for Bill, if you're talking just week one, is the wise guys out there were saying his line is about 24 rushing yards, and that is now gone. As in they are.
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Jason Moore
It got bet the under so much. They books pulled it.
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Mike Wright
So the. Look, they don't know everything, but they.
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Andy Holloway
They just try to limit losses, too.
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Mike Wright
Well, yeah, they try and limit losses, but I'm saying, like, they do have, you know, back doors they can go knock on and ask how things are going to go.
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Andy Holloway
Well, that'll be A fun one to watch. Trayvon Henderson listed as New England's RB3 behind Ramondre and Tony.
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Mike Wright
What is. This is so dumb.
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Jason Moore
Well, of course you don't care because you love Antonio Gibson so much. Yeah, well, of course he's great.
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Mike Wright
That's right.
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Andy Holloway
Yeah, man. A backfield with Gibson and Henderson.
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Mike Wright
I know.
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Andy Holloway
There's so much we need to get Ramondre traded for.
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Mike Wright
Who.
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Andy Holloway
Like, who would be another name that.
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Jason Moore
Oh, to add a third.
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Andy Holloway
Third Mike Superstar like Ken Bone. Ken Bone.
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Mike Wright
Oh, no, this is Rico. Oh, it is rico Kendo at RB1. Gibson, RB3.
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Andy Holloway
Mike can answer the joke himself.
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Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah.
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Andy Holloway
All right, so you don't care about Travion at RB3. What about the Broncos situation? J.K. dobbins is listed as the starter. R.J. harvey, RB2. I think at one point in the off season, correct me if I'm wrong, I think RJ Harvey was listed at like 5. And so to me, him moving up in an official capacity to RB2 is significant. That. That's where the team obviously sees him.
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Jason Moore
But his utilization in preseason was great. But obviously Dobbins was. It could be Dobbins being arrested. Exactly. Because he is the clear starter right now. I think week one J.K. dobbins is still going to be the.
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Andy Holloway
If you had both.
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Jason Moore
Lead ball toucher.
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Andy Holloway
Lead. Whoa.
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Jason Moore
Whoa.
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Andy Holloway
Yeah. What is.
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Jason Moore
I think he's going to receive new catches, targets and handoffs at a higher level.
- [25:31]
Mike Wright
I think. I think the question was, if you have both Dobbins and Harvey, who are you playing?
- [25:36]
Andy Holloway
That is the question. If you had them both, which I know you do, in one league, Mike, you'll have to start both in that league.
- [25:41]
Mike Wright
Yeah, yeah.
- [25:42]
Andy Holloway
But if you had to choose one in Week one, you go out there, man, I.
- [25:47]
Mike Wright
Because the reporting was.
- [25:51]
Andy Holloway
Matchup against Tennessee in week one.
- [25:52]
Mike Wright
Because the reporting was expect J.K. dobbins to be the starter, at least for the beginning of the year, that's where I'd probably go. It's such a brutal call because if you spent draft capital on both these guys, you drafted Harvey where the fourth or the fifth round, and then Dobbins in eight.
- [26:12]
Jason Moore
It's funny, too, because let's say. Let's say we knew the opportunities, right? And we say J.K. dobbins gets 15 opportunities and R.J. harvey gets 11. Who has more fantasy points because the explosive.
- [26:23]
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's fair.
- [26:24]
Jason Moore
Rookie.
- [26:24]
Andy Holloway
Yeah. If it was like that, then maybe I'd. You know, it's really close in Week one. Yeah, really close.
- [26:29]
Jason Moore
Both. Both are fine starters and It's a good matchup.
- [26:32]
Andy Holloway
I think Dobbins is less risky in week one, but maybe Harvey does have more explosive upside.
- [26:36]
Jason Moore
Yeah.
- [26:37]
Andy Holloway
ETN and Bigsby listed as co starters.
- [26:41]
Mike Wright
Are they running out two running backs?
- [26:44]
Andy Holloway
Zero. Is the answer no. Tank Bigsby, Travis etn, co starters. Who would you rather have to start in week one?
- [26:52]
Mike Wright
I'm still on team Tank.
- [26:53]
Jason Moore
I'm still on etn. I think he's gonna get the pass catching work over Tank, but probably, I.
- [26:59]
Mike Wright
Think they both get past catching work.
- [27:01]
Jason Moore
I mean, if Tank Bigsby got past catching work, he would be the better option because he is a more efficient runner between the tackles. He's a better pure running back. But I, you know, the passing work that Travis ETN has always had from Trevor Lawrence, I can't imagine that vanishing.
- [27:16]
Mike Wright
Over under half a reception for Tank Bigsby.
- [27:20]
Jason Moore
See, that's a good line and that's the problem. I will take the over. But if you said one and a.
- [27:26]
Mike Wright
Half, I was going to move it again.
- [27:28]
Andy Holloway
Yeah, the, the hard part with ETN is that if he doesn't score, which he shouldn't. Right. It should be Bigsby around the goal line.
- [27:34]
Mike Wright
Should.
- [27:35]
Andy Holloway
If not Tootin, but probably Bigsby.
- [27:37]
Mike Wright
Right.
- [27:37]
Andy Holloway
It's like ETN had 202 opportunities last year and did so little.
- [27:44]
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah.
- [27:45]
Andy Holloway
So it's like I just feels like even if you give him more total work, it's going to come down to touchdown. So. Eileen Bigsby, Caleb Johnson listed as the running back three behind Jalen.
- [27:54]
Jason Moore
Right where we want them boys behind.
- [27:56]
Andy Holloway
Jalen Warren and Kenneth Gain.
- [27:58]
Jason Moore
No one loves the third running back.
- [27:59]
Mike Wright
More than Arthur Smith with also now.
- [28:02]
Jason Moore
He can get on the goal line.
- [28:03]
Mike Wright
Where's our. Where's our Mike Tomlin quote?
- [28:06]
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah, that's. That was pretty brutal.
- [28:08]
Mike Wright
I don't have it verbatim in front of me, but they.
- [28:10]
Andy Holloway
Oh, we can find.
- [28:11]
Jason Moore
Yeah, we can find. That's a question. It is a worthy quote. It needs to be known and said. And what is shocking. So we did our listener league draft yesterday. I ended up with Caleb Johnson, a player. You did. Yeah, I know, it's shocking.
- [28:22]
Andy Holloway
No, I did.
- [28:22]
Jason Moore
No, but you want to know what will shock you?
- [28:25]
Andy Holloway
I do.
- [28:26]
Jason Moore
My cue was not Caleb Johnson. My cue was Jalen Warren, who I was going to take, but he went ahead. So Caleb fell to me. But I mean, right now Jalen Warren is the starter. I like Caleb Johnson. I still think he can make an impact as the season goes on. But Jalen Warren is the guy.
- [28:45]
Andy Holloway
Mike Tomlin on Jalen Warren. His progress has been very evident and he. He's to be congratulated. Certainly he will be our featured runner. Certainly you'll see Caleb Johnson, Kenneth Gainwell but at what time and to what degree will depend. Week to week.
- [28:59]
Jason Moore
Yeah. It's. It's Jalen Warren's team to start.
- [29:02]
Andy Holloway
Yep. But that doesn't mean that Caleb can't be relevant.
- [29:05]
Mike Wright
No. Throughout the season.
- [29:06]
Jason Moore
But I'm just so in other words, thank goodness he's not the back.
- [29:08]
Andy Holloway
You do buy. You buy into that.
- [29:11]
Mike Wright
I buy in that Jaylen Warren will be the featured running back for the first at least month.
- [29:18]
Andy Holloway
Excited maybe more excited about this one Titans have listed Epic IO Manor as wide receiver 2 ahead of Van Jefferson to start the year. That would be Alec IO Manor and he is the rookie wide receiver for the Titans that I'm paying the most attention to. I have him.
- [29:34]
Mike Wright
Yeah.
- [29:34]
Andy Holloway
That's every single draft and in our Dynasty league. Not that he will have some incredible season but there is the opportunity for him to establish it's a rookie quarterback. It's Camward. It's a team that's going to be playing from behind a lot and Calvin.
- [29:50]
Jason Moore
Ridley and Jack Squat they need another receiver and so if and they got.
- [29:54]
Andy Holloway
Drafted Jack squad in the sixth was it right.
- [29:57]
Jason Moore
And yeah. And then Restrepo they signed undrafted so it was just epic. And DK as the. I think Epic is the primary wide receiver too in the. You know from week one. And if he's good. That's the question. Like if he's actually good and he.
- [30:12]
Andy Holloway
Looked good in preseason.
- [30:15]
Mike Wright
Do you care?
- [30:17]
Jason Moore
I care a little bit. Yeah. Because Cam Ward can actually be something special. So if Cam Ward is Cam. Okay. Bank. Oh we got Boo.
- [30:29]
Mike Wright
You didn't pretty heavy Swiss.
- [30:31]
Andy Holloway
That's true. I so there you go.
- [30:35]
Mike Wright
I have no problem with the player. I just have I'm the cold bucket of water for the situation. It's fair. Rookie quarterbacks can barely support one top wide receiver and that's back in the 90s.
- [30:48]
Jason Moore
No.
- [30:48]
Andy Holloway
No. Also the odds.
- [30:50]
Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah. So also the tens but like if you're in. If you're in a deep league. Sure. Like he's. At least he'll be on the field.
- [30:59]
Andy Holloway
Also I believe and I don't see it on here but I believe Dante Thornton is also listed as a starter.
- [31:04]
Jason Moore
Yeah. For the and he's been a starter from the first second of training camp through preseason.
- [31:12]
Andy Holloway
Throw some cold water on my Dante Thornton because I have him everywhere. I believe he can be the one right out of the gate in Las Vegas.
- [31:19]
Mike Wright
I believe he could be. Not the one because that's Brock. Not the two because Jacoby is good and I don't they he. He's interesting because he's a size speed freak. I have. I have questions if it will actually work in the NFL once true NFL defenses are playing against him. Like can he handle the. Can he handle the press and get you know actually get open.
- [31:46]
Andy Holloway
We are so close to our first.
- [31:48]
Jason Moore
Like the New York Times.
- [31:50]
Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah. What is happening today?
- [31:54]
Andy Holloway
We are so close to our Thursday night preview. Guys. Najee Harris practiced in full. Mike Vrabel said Stefan Diggs will play in week one. Isaiah likely not expected to play in week one. Where are like Gabe Davis to the practice squad of the Bills.
- [32:07]
Mike Wright
We have. Mark Andrews has really not been discussed much at all. Where are you guys with Andrews?
- [32:15]
Jason Moore
I think he should get off to a fine start. I mean you know week one at least Buffalo high over under no likely on the field you're going to score points. So him and Kelsey are.
- [32:27]
Andy Holloway
It's so frustrating. But we all know Mark Andrews will. He'll be like the number one tight end in week one.
- [32:32]
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean I think both of those old guys are going to have a real strong start to the season because their competition is going to be absent for the first couple weeks.
- [32:43]
Andy Holloway
All right. We have a Thursday night preview to get to. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote today@progressive.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions.
- [32:58]
Jason Moore
Football.
- [32:59]
Andy Holloway
It's finally time.
- [33:05]
Podcast Announcer
Thursday night breakdown.
- [33:09]
Andy Holloway
Well Jerry's been spending that Micah Parsons money on some other players. Dallas at Philadelphia. I just.
- [33:18]
Mike Wright
I cannot with that guy.
- [33:19]
Andy Holloway
Philly is now eight and a half point favorites at home. The over unders 47 and a half. That gives. Oh by the way we got some new. We got some new graphics up on the YouTube. We got some new matchup on the very nice and they look real nice but Philly 28 implied points. Dallas 19 and a half. Before the Parsons trade Philly was seven point favorite. So it's moved a point and a half. And here we go. You know, no Michael Parsons. Philly coming off of the super bowl victory. Like I said yesterday, this would be. This would be the greatest statement game ever for Jerry Jones & Co. And for the Cowboys fans if they came out and won in Philly in week one. You know that generally the defenses are a little bit ahead of the offenses. Sometimes when the season starts.
- [34:15]
Mike Wright
Sure.
- [34:16]
Andy Holloway
So they probably could have used Micah Parsons.
- [34:20]
Mike Wright
The fact that it is a. This is a divisional game and the Cowboys are eight and a half point dogs, like divisional games are usually like, if you're. We're favored by three, like, oh, okay, are you sure? But eight and a half points is just. It would be. It would be a miracle.
- [34:44]
Andy Holloway
This is the beginning of, you know, Dak plus CD plus George.
- [34:50]
Mike Wright
Yes.
- [34:50]
Andy Holloway
When Dallas has had Dak as their starting quarterback. Offensively, they've been fifth in plays per game, seventh in red zone plays per game, fifth in points per game. You know, it's been a minute since we've. We've got to see that level of Dak CD and because it wasn't quite cooking to start the year last year and then Dak went down or the.
- [35:13]
Jason Moore
Year prior when they did finish as the number one duo.
- [35:16]
Mike Wright
Yeah, it was off to a slow start.
- [35:17]
Andy Holloway
Yeah. The first four weeks. But that was. Was that when Kellen Moore was still there?
- [35:20]
Mike Wright
I believe so.
- [35:21]
Andy Holloway
Two years ago. I guess I bring that up because he, like, it didn't go well without him to start last year. Then we didn't see the rest of it. And we have Brian Schottenheimer. It is something to watch what they do with those two guys. I saw them talking about each other and saying it's, you know, it's not a one and a two situation. It's one and one on both sides. That's the way the wide receivers talked about it.
- [35:47]
Mike Wright
But let's start the way CDs saying that.
- [35:50]
Andy Holloway
CD. Yeah.
- [35:50]
Mike Wright
That's really nice of him.
- [35:51]
Jason Moore
It was super nice. He did Wink.
- [35:54]
Mike Wright
We like George, but come on, William.
- [35:57]
Andy Holloway
It's something you say. You know what I mean? Speaking of which, it's on this show. It's like one and one and one.
- [36:03]
Mike Wright
Yeah, we're all ones here. Yeah.
- [36:07]
Andy Holloway
All right. Javante Williams and company. That's what I'm going to say about the Cowboys when the season starts. Philadelphia was the second best defense against fantasy running backs last year.
- [36:19]
Jason Moore
How were they against wide receivers?
- [36:22]
Andy Holloway
Were they number one?
- [36:23]
Jason Moore
No, they were top five. But what about quarterbacks? Really good tight ends. Top five.
- [36:27]
Andy Holloway
So maybe slow start for Dallas.
- [36:29]
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, this was the. So I am. I am very, very in on Dak Prescott on George on cd. The passing game here for the Cowboys, I'm fully in on this season, but the opening schedule is really tough. If you went and drafted Dak, if you. If you went and got George, I. You're going to need to do one of two things. Have resolve and stay the course or look at other options to start the year. Like Dak. If you drafted Dak, I don't mind if you're out there and you say, you know what, Trevor Lawrence is sitting on waivers. I would rather play Trevor Lawrence. Week one. I have Dax several places. I am not personally doing that, but I could tell you if this was a Sunday morning game, I mean, you're getting. Lawrence would be in my lineup. I can't. I can't possibly watch opening night football and. And not have the Dak points.
- [37:21]
Andy Holloway
Dak to have it. Dak will. So they play Philly, then they play the Giants, then they play the Bears and then they play Michael Parsons and the Packers. The Giants and Bears play the jets in New York.
- [37:34]
Jason Moore
Giants and Bears might not sound like difficult matchups, but literally the bears were like 32nd last year against like they were the. They were the toughest matchup for quarterbacks. And the Giants offense is bad, but their defense is very good.
- [37:50]
Andy Holloway
Maybe the best defensive line in football. So I am. You're going to have to show me how strong you are.
- [37:58]
Jason Moore
My resolve. Yeah. A month from now.
- [38:00]
Andy Holloway
I am not. I don't believe in the offense and I believe it'll be a bad start. And I don't think I'll be buying him. But maybe, maybe you have to, you know, and maybe that defense will be so bad that you have the NFC Bengals to deal with.
- [38:13]
Jason Moore
That is the hope. That is the real hope. Dak is a good player. We know CD Lamb is an elite top five wide receiver in the NFL. You're not going to just be able to stop them all the time and their defense stinks and they can't run the ball. So they will be throwing. It's just really tough to do here. Week one against the Eagles, you would.
- [38:29]
Andy Holloway
Play Dak or Justin Fields. Mike. Justin Fields plays Pittsburgh and we.
- [38:33]
Mike Wright
Oh my gosh. I think I'll still go with Dak.
- [38:39]
Andy Holloway
So Dak. I'm looking at the game log last year. So he was the quarterback. 22, 15, 1 11, 12, 28, 18 and 22 before the injury. Dak or Trevor Lawrence? We'd answered it Dak or Drake maybe in week one.
- [38:55]
Mike Wright
I stick with that.
- [38:57]
Andy Holloway
And then Javante. Are you. No, just not playing Javante.
- [39:02]
Jason Moore
I. Goodness me, no.
- [39:04]
Mike Wright
The only. I mean the path. Thankfully, Javante was not in an area where you have to play him unless you were like, I'm going 0 RB and Javante is my hero.
- [39:13]
Andy Holloway
What if you had no second through.
- [39:14]
Mike Wright
Six round picks then maybe you drafted.
- [39:17]
Andy Holloway
No, I don't. No I don't but I would. I would have loved to have out him.
- [39:21]
Mike Wright
That's where I was the path. The path forward for Javante is he's a. He's a good pass protector.
- [39:28]
Jason Moore
He was a keeper in our league of record. Look at him. I hope you're still. Look at him. Javante's biggest fan.
- [39:37]
Mike Wright
The path forward is he will. He should be on the field because I expect them to be trailing and then you. If you get four receptions.
- [39:45]
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
- [39:45]
Mike Wright
Little check down then you'll be like.
- [39:48]
Andy Holloway
Four for five yards. Yeah.
- [39:50]
Mike Wright
Yeah.
- [39:50]
Andy Holloway
Jake Ferguson, you're okay in week one.
- [39:53]
Mike Wright
This I like Jake Ferguson for the season but I would prefer not to play him this week.
- [39:58]
Jason Moore
AJ Brown, just start your Eagles.
- [40:01]
Andy Holloway
Devonte Smith, Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts.
- [40:03]
Mike Wright
What about Goddard?
- [40:05]
Jason Moore
Goddard.
- [40:06]
Andy Holloway
That's the first time his name's been mentioned in months.
- [40:09]
Mike Wright
Yawn.
- [40:09]
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean he's had a 19% target share each of the last four years. That's a great number.
- [40:14]
Mike Wright
That's impossible.
- [40:15]
Jason Moore
If you. If you look at this, I think this is the matchup. Right. Like if you've got Ferguson and Goddard is out on waivers, who would you rather have in this specific game? Feel like I'd rather have the team that's going to win.
- [40:27]
Andy Holloway
Last year, Dallas lost 34 to 6, 41 to 7 in the two games against Philadelphia.
- [40:31]
Mike Wright
They were. I think they're both dakless.
- [40:33]
Jason Moore
Neither one was Dac. Yeah.
- [40:37]
Andy Holloway
Is that. Yeah. Okay.
- [40:38]
Mike Wright
When he does a play. That's what they call it.
- [40:40]
Andy Holloway
Yes. Yes, they do. All right, we'll take a break. We'll jump into the mailb.
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Mike Wright
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- [41:50]
Andy Holloway
All right, it's time to answer some of your questions. Into the mailbag we go.
- [41:56]
Podcast Announcer
Mailbag, presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.
- [42:03]
Andy Holloway
All righty. We are into the mail bag. We got a voicemail to start it off. If you have a question, you can go to the website the fantasy footballers.com, click the submit a question button or dial the voicemail hotline. 302464 TFFB. Here we go. Hey, ballers, this is Anthony from New Jersey. Huge fan of the show. My question to you guys is who would you rather start this week in the flex, full point PPR? Tyrone Tracy Jr. Or Jerome Ford? Thanks, guys. I would play Tyrone Tracy, man, by a lot.
- [42:36]
Jason Moore
Really?
- [42:36]
Andy Holloway
Yes.
- [42:38]
Mike Wright
I think, I think it's difficult. Like, I would love to play my running back against the Cincinnati Bengals. That sounds like a real good time in week one. I think the only issue is he'll.
- [42:51]
Andy Holloway
Be down by 40 by the time he gets a second carry.
- [42:54]
Mike Wright
Well, it's the, the reporting, you know, of, like, I think the last thing we heard was, was Mary Kay was like, no, Jerome Ford is expected to be the starter. But then there's like weird back channels. They're like, don't be shocked if Dylan Sampson is the starter. So that, that's the only thing that scares me off of Jerome Ford is that you put him in there. You love the matchup. The game comes up and they're introducing the starters and it's Dylan Sampson and then you're going to have a full panic attack.
- [43:25]
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, both of these players have a day three running back to compete with whether it's Dylan Sampson or whether it's Cam Scatterboo. I look at the matchup and I love the matchup against the Bengals. I like the fact that Jerome Ford, you know, has had a season of 63 targets. Is a full PPR league. You're going to be down against the Bengals. I think Jerome Ford ends up, you know, with three or four or five receptions in this game, little checkdowns from Flacco. So I actually lean the forward side. It's, it's a, it's a good debate. But the pass catching work, we're not sure if that's going to be Cam Scattered, who is great at that in college or Tyrone Tracy.
- [44:07]
Mike Wright
I would honestly.
- [44:08]
Andy Holloway
Tracy had 53 targets last year, so he can catch the football.
- [44:11]
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not that he can't. It's that the, the, the Scatter Boo factor is real where Tracy didn't really have anybody to worry about. I would take this to Sunday and if you get, if I got the full clearance that Jerome Ford is definitely starting, I would play Ford. Otherwise I would probably just put Tracy in there.
- [44:30]
Andy Holloway
All right, we got our first mailbag question here. Reveal your super bowl picks for the 2025 season. No better time than now right before the season kicks off to give a final word on who you think is going to win.
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Mike Wright
It was. I didn't. You guys already had yours in and I didn't want to be boring.
- [44:47]
Andy Holloway
Jason just reelected very.
- [44:50]
Mike Wright
So I went with one where it's like no, I can never. I can see it happen.
- [44:53]
Andy Holloway
All right. So, so then I'll, I'll be. I'll be more boring. I gave this some thought. I think the NFC is maybe easier.
- [45:01]
Mike Wright
Than I checked the odds. The top two teams.
- [45:03]
Andy Holloway
Oh are they.
- [45:04]
Mike Wright
Yes.
- [45:04]
Andy Holloway
I did not check the odds but it makes sense. I like, I like Green Bay in the nfc. I like Detroit but I don't like them as much as Philadelphia. So I, I have Philadelphia repeating and and beating Baltimore in the Super Bowl.
- [45:19]
Jason Moore
I have Baltimore in the super bowl as well but not Philly. I have the Micah Parsons led Packers. Unfortunately Jeremy losing to the Baltimore Ravens in the Super Bowl.
- [45:31]
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's really hard for me to not see it being Baltimore as the pick but to throw a contrarian idea out there. I went with the Denver Broncos over the Detroit Lions. I think that the Bo Knicks with the 10 and 7 record as a rookie year two with the Broncos defense is ferocious and the Lions defense will be back to being so good for.
- [45:55]
Andy Holloway
My Bonix rookie cards. Mike, you know what I mean?
- [45:58]
Mike Wright
Yeah, no I do.
- [46:00]
Andy Holloway
We really. I appreciate that. Sports Fan 101 writing in Can I trust Amari and Hampton enough to start him in week one? Chargers a three point underdogs against Kansas City. It's the Brazil game so they're not really in Kansas City or at home. They're just in Brazil. Kansas City was the best team against fantasy running backs last year.
- [46:19]
Jason Moore
I don't know how you, you know who you drafted on your roster where he was going by draft time. You know he's a third round pick.
- [46:26]
Andy Holloway
So need to take advantage of any lack of Najee as well.
- [46:30]
Mike Wright
Well, I think Najee is going to.
- [46:31]
Andy Holloway
Play but now it can't be much if he has taken a practice snap.
- [46:36]
Mike Wright
Until today the the line on. On Hampton. Well I think it opened at 48 and a half rushing yards and it's already down. So the matchup is. The matchup stinks. But I think I'm with Jason of you. You took him to be a starter and I don't think I would get cute.
- [46:55]
Andy Holloway
You also believe in the system that, that Harbaugh is running to. If any team's going to execute it, execute it against the Chiefs, it's going.
- [47:02]
Mike Wright
To be them and it's Brazil. If they didn't fix the turf, then there's going to be a lot of points.
- [47:08]
Jason Moore
I would say the only players that you might have where I'd go, okay, I would play James Conner. I would play.
- [47:14]
Mike Wright
Oh, I'd play James Connor for sure.
- [47:15]
Jason Moore
Yeah. James Conner and Alvin Camara in the same game against each other.
- [47:18]
Mike Wright
Okay, that's fair.
- [47:19]
Jason Moore
If you had those guys where you got to decide between them and Hampton. Okay. Otherwise I'm plugging in the rookie Euro.
- [47:28]
Andy Holloway
Writes in on X. Hey, Ballerinos, do you guys have any first Sunday of football rituals or traditions to break in for the new year? Do we have any first Sunday football rituals other than the set, my lineups.
- [47:45]
Mike Wright
The chanting, the candles.
- [47:48]
Jason Moore
Right.
- [47:48]
Mike Wright
I mean, other than that.
- [47:49]
Jason Moore
But that's. Who doesn't have.
- [47:50]
Andy Holloway
Yeah, there's regular pants.
- [47:52]
Mike Wright
Regular old stuff.
- [47:53]
Jason Moore
Yeah. Mike doesn't wear pants. And that's, you know.
- [47:56]
Mike Wright
Well, we'll see the first Travion Henderson.
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Jason Moore
You're. You're so you're wearing tearaways, of course. Okay.
- [48:03]
Mike Wright
All right. I probably need like multiples.
- [48:06]
Jason Moore
Oh, that's a good idea. Just layer it up. See if, see if you can put the pants to this.
- [48:12]
Andy Holloway
I would prefer him to layer it up. Yes. Yeah. All right. What is the vibe check right now? Zach wants to know Instagram question. What's the vibe check on Colston Loveland?
- [48:21]
Jason Moore
Who?
- [48:22]
Andy Holloway
You know, Loveland. You want to talk about another depth chart reaction type of situation? I mean, Cole Comet is very clearly the starter there right now. Colson Loveland did get some time in the last preseason game where he caught, I think, the first pass and has obviously been drafted to be an explosive weapon. I think it's really hard when it's DJ Moore, Roma Dunes, Luther Burden, Deandre Swift, Colson Loveland and this whole myriad of options with a quarterback you may or may not trust.
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Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, that's, that's why he was a late round draft pick. However, in the NFL, he was a super high draft pick that every team wanted and people were trying to trade up for. So there's been plenty of leagues where I take. I take Colson Loveland, like with my last pick as a second tight end.
- [49:03]
Mike Wright
Yeah.
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Jason Moore
Not to start week one, but just to see what if. Just to see, you know, if there's another breakout. I agree with you, Andy. The pathway for him is very difficult. That's why I was right after the NFL draft. I was much lower on Loveland than Tyler Warren because the path is so much more clear. I believe for Warren.
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Andy Holloway
The most popular start sit question right now on the website so far are two rookie wide receivers that are both.
- [49:30]
Jason Moore
My guys, my guy versus my guy.
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Andy Holloway
That are facing defenses ranked 29th and 31st last year against the pass against wide receivers Emeka Buka at Atlanta, Tetaro and McMillan at Jacksonville.
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Jason Moore
Man, this is an easy Tet to me.
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Mike Wright
Is it?
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Jason Moore
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean this. I feel like it's more like, you know, Tetaroa is in the Mike Evans role here.
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Mike Wright
Yeah.
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Jason Moore
He's the one for his team right off the bat, whereas Mecca Buka is going to be on the field. I'm not saying he couldn't have the better game, but I feel like he is still the two for this team behind Mike Evans. I am very excited for seeing what Tetaroa can do. Both of these matchups are close enough to equal where it's not like, you know, it's not like one of these is great and the other is terrible for tet plus where you drafted them. I mean, this is an easy for me tet a row.
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Andy Holloway
They're both great starts. But I would go tet as well.
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Mike Wright
I would. I just don't call it an easy one. But at the end of the day, I'm starting to.
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Andy Holloway
But there are additional Egg Buka questions coming in, including Jamison Williams against Green Bay or a Mecca, Igbuka.
- [50:34]
Jason Moore
My guy versus my guy.
- [50:35]
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah. So I can't answer. I'd start them both.
- [50:38]
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, just start them both. That's a great answer. I like it.
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Andy Holloway
Bench whoever else you have, right?
- [50:44]
Jason Moore
Yeah.
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Andy Holloway
No, I mean, if I had to choose between those two. I mean, we just talked about the matchup. Igbuka, not a lot of options if Otten doesn't play, if McMillan's not there, if Godwin's not there, you know, does James, Bucky Irving get it done on the ground against Atlanta? Probably.
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Jason Moore
Jameson's going to be on the road in Green Bay.
- [51:03]
Andy Holloway
I'll take. I'll take Igboka week one.
- [51:05]
Jason Moore
I think I would as well.
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Andy Holloway
All right.
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Mike Wright
They. I think the over under is tied right now and let's see, Tampa is implied for 25 and the Lions are at 22 and a half. I think I just, yeah, I'd start Jameson Williams.
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Andy Holloway
Eddie in Rhode island writes in who is the better stash at the end of a 10 team PPR bench, Ollie Gordon or Braylon Allen? I do not have Achan or Hall on my team. So you're looking at just blindly adding one of these for upside.
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Jason Moore
For me it's Ollie Gordon.
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Andy Holloway
Yeah. For me it's Braylon Allen.
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Mike Wright
Okay. I think I'm going with Ollie Gordon.
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Andy Holloway
I don't think I'm going to be surprised in week one that Ali Gordon is like he's. I can be surprised and Braylon could be the starter for New York. Braylon could get more work. He could and be establishing. So that's why I lean like if I'm going to stash one and I learn something new, I'm not going to learn something new in Miami in terms of the hierarchy of running backs, but I will potentially learn something new in New York. So that's why I would pick Allen.
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Jason Moore
I think you, I think you very well could end up learning something. Not that he would be the, you know, lion's share over Achan, but if he gets into that Mostert role, if he gets the goal line work, if he is really the more involved than you think he is and he's not just some backup to hn, but he's actually splitting with hn. I think he's a better, I think he's a better player than Braylon Allen.
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Andy Holloway
Oh, I don't. And I expect all the things you just said, like if that doesn't happen in week one for Ali Gordon, then I would be.
- [52:36]
Jason Moore
You would learn something.
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Andy Holloway
I would be surprised. Like we. He should be. Right. I mean they don't just use a chance. Ali. Ali's the only guy they got. He should do all that stuff.
- [52:45]
Jason Moore
It's just to me, a lot of it's just offense versus offense.
- [52:49]
Mike Wright
Sure.
- [52:49]
Jason Moore
Whether you want, you know, who's going to have more touchdown opportunities, the jets or the Dolphins.
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Andy Holloway
Yeah. And the Dolphins are historically the worst goal line team with Jalen Wright and with Devon hn. So if Ollie Gordon somehow had success, that would be relevant like Mostert did a couple of years ago. Who do I target in the Bears backfield? Xavier wants to know on X behind DeAndre Swift. Who do I target in the Bears backfield behind DeAndre Swift?
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Mike Wright
I. I think it is. I think it's Kyle Manon guy which is this. This year. This year is wild. Talking about all these day three running backs is hurting my brain of just like play of odds and history of what has happened Day three running backs are irrelevant but the way that they've talked about Manangai, I think he is the RB2 and it could. It could honestly be nobody. It could be Swift gets a whole bunch of action in between the 20s and Manangai is the backup and then as soon as they're inside the five, it's Roshan Johnson.
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Andy Holloway
I think Swift is underrated. I think Swift is underrated for drafts. I think nobody ever wants to draft him and I think that's dumb.
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Mike Wright
I think there's a. I don't know that it's dumb but I think there's a chance that he is.
- [54:08]
Andy Holloway
I mean Ben Johnson should. If Ben Johnson succeeds, you have to carry that out to its implications for every position group.
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Mike Wright
Sure.
- [54:14]
Andy Holloway
And I we haven't done that with Swift. We've done it for all the wide receivers and the tight ends. I don't feel like we've said hey, you know, we literally can't decide if it's Roshan who's been bad or Manung guy who's never played but we're sitting here with DeAndre Swift and it's like you could be a really, really valuable piece. He looked great in the preseason and Ben Johnson, if you carry it out to its end I feel like DeAndre Swift is a steal.
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Mike Wright
Well that's just it comes down to of like we've seen Ben Johnson with DeAndre Swift before and I'm trying to.
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Andy Holloway
Pull Swift was good. Per touch.
- [54:46]
Jason Moore
Yes.
- [54:47]
Andy Holloway
Just didn't get as much per touch.
- [54:49]
Mike Wright
He was the thing is when he.
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Andy Holloway
Was with the Lions.
- [54:51]
Mike Wright
Yes. When he was with the Lions the thing about that year though is Jamal Williams had 262 carries and 17 rushing touchdowns. That's the issue with Swift to DeAndre.
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Jason Moore
Swift's 99 carries but he did miss.
- [55:05]
Mike Wright
A few games so DeAndre Swift played 14.
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Andy Holloway
The funny thing about him is no matter what the path is, he's played on three teams his points per game 12, 8, 13, 7 11, 9 11, 211 4.
- [55:16]
Mike Wright
He can't keep getting away with it Andy.
- [55:18]
Andy Holloway
He's 11 plus a game we have everybody has him consensus ranked outside the top 24 but he's finished inside the top 24 for five straight years. It's just let's just put it. I'm saying maybe it's better off putting that emotion to the side and just leaning in.
- [55:34]
Mike Wright
Never.
- [55:34]
Andy Holloway
Okay, that's another option. Never is another option. Let's go to this question. Adam Stewart in Ontario. My bench has too many spot or has too many need to drop one. Jordan Mason or Tank Bigsby.
- [55:47]
Mike Wright
Oh, that stinks.
- [55:49]
Andy Holloway
I would drop Bigsby.
- [55:50]
Mike Wright
Yeah, I would too, but because I.
- [55:53]
Andy Holloway
Think Mason's a better player.
- [55:55]
Mike Wright
Really? I mean that's who you have to drop. There's not a.
- [55:59]
Andy Holloway
Well, that's what Adam said.
- [56:00]
Jason Moore
Tank is a pretty late pick.
- [56:02]
Mike Wright
Yeah, but if there's like a. I don't know, it's a late veteran wide receiver who does. Doesn't really have.
- [56:08]
Jason Moore
If you have Adam Thielen, then I'm dropping Adam Thielen.
- [56:12]
Mike Wright
Okay, but that to drop a. Regardless of how you feel about Tank Bigsby or his or his talent, he is currently listed as a co starter for Liam Cohen. So dropping that guy under the waiver wire is going to feel bad.
- [56:29]
Andy Holloway
Well, if you had to pick one, which one would you do?
- [56:31]
Mike Wright
No, I would drop Tank of the two.
- [56:33]
Andy Holloway
All right, that'll do it. For the mailbag. Watch every game every Sunday with NFL Sunday Ticket and YouTube TV. Visit YouTube.com fantasy footballers we will have YouTube TV up by the way.
- [56:42]
Mike Wright
Yes we will.
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Andy Holloway
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Mike Wright
Goodbye.
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