Week 1 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Trey Doo-Doo

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 1 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Trey Doo-Doo
Release Date: September 10, 2018
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Week 1 Performance Overview

The Fantasy Footballers kicked off the season with an exhilarating discussion on the stunning performances and unexpected disappointments from Week 1 of the NFL season. The hosts delved deep into how these outcomes will shape fantasy football strategies moving forward.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [01:41]: "One heck of a Sunday capped by an incredible, unbelievable performance."

Quarterback Analysis

Aaron Rodgers' Stellar Performance

A focal point was Aaron Rodgers' remarkable performance against the Green Bay Packers, which left fans and analysts in awe.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [01:45]: "Is that one of the greatest games of football I've ever seen?"

Impact:
Rodgers' game not only dominated the Packers but also dampened their entire season prospects. The trio highlighted Rodgers as "the best quarterback on the planet," emphasizing his significance for fantasy leagues.

Ryan Fitzpatrick’s Magic

Ryan Fitzpatrick impressed with a commanding 417-yard, four-touchdown game, though concerns about his consistency remain.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [22:02]: "There's not much more you can say than the perfect game."

Concern:
Despite the fantasy-friendly stats, the upcoming tough matchups with teams like the Steelers and Bills raise questions about his long-term reliability.

Pat Mahomes and Chiefs Outlook

Pat Mahomes was another quarterback spotlight, with discussions centered on his deep-ball prowess and the Kansas City Chiefs' offensive line performance providing hope for sustained fantasy value.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [25:28]: "I've been anti Brandon Marshall for the last two years, but he looked great in preseason."

Long-Term Potential:
Mahomes was lauded as a quarterback to "stay in the flames with," indicating his high ceiling despite a challenging start.

Running Back Analysis

Alvin Kamara’s Explosive Start

Alvin Kamara emerged as a standout performer with eight carries, nine catches, and three touchdowns, showcasing his dual-threat capability.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [28:35]: "He's unbelievable when he touches the ball."

Fantasy Impact:
Kamara's versatility and efficiency make him a top-tier fantasy asset, surpassing expectations and drawing comparisons to legends like Jamal Charles.

James Conner’s Heavy Usage

James Conner's workload dominated Pittsburgh's backfield, raising strategic questions about his future, especially concerning the potential return of Le'Veon Bell.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [33:55]: "Do you trade him or you hold him?"

Strategy:
The hosts debated whether to hold onto Conner as a valuable asset or consider trading him before Bell's possible return, which would significantly diminish Conner's value.

Other Notable Running Backs

• Chris Thompson: Praised for his involvement and reliability as a Washington Redskins back.
• Philip Lindsay: Highlighted for his substantial snap count and involvement in high-leverage situations for the Denver Broncos.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [50:26]: "Philip Lindsay...he scored the first touchdown of the Broncos season."

Wide Receiver Analysis

Mike Evans and Michael Thomas Shine

Mike Evans delivered a robust performance with a significant touchdown and impressive yards after catch, while Michael Thomas dominated with 16 receptions for 180 yards and a touchdown.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [38:31]: "He escaped the tackle and had a huge touchdown."

Fantasy Implications:
Both receivers solidified their status as elite fantasy options, with Evans showing his ability to extend plays and Thomas proving his consistency against tougher defenses.

Emmanuel Sanders and Julio Jones

Emmanuel Sanders was lauded for his reliable targeting and touchdown potential, whereas Julio Jones continued to showcase his dominance.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [40:37]: "Emmanuel Sanders, All those guys you'd rather have."

Tight End Analysis

Rob Gronkowski’s Strong Start

Gronkowski was another high performer, registering seven receptions for 23 yards and a touchdown, reaffirming his elite status in fantasy football.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [41:45]: "Uncle Will has a great pass-catching ability."

Rookies and Emerging Tight Ends

Will Disley, a fourth-round rookie, made headlines by becoming the first rookie tight end with over 100 receiving yards in his debut since 1968, signaling potential high fantasy value.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [41:54]: "He just gets it done."

Trade and Waiver Wire Targets:
George Kittle was highlighted as a top waiver wire target, with discussions around his usage and potential to become a top-tier fantasy tight end.

Rising Stars

Chris Thompson (RB - Washington Redskins)

Thompson's involvement and performance make him a prime candidate for fantasy bloom, especially in leagues favoring running backs.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [45:25]: "Chris Thompson looked like a great player just like he did last year."

George Kittle (TE - San Francisco 49ers)

Kittle's immediate impact and high target volume position him as a must-pick player moving forward.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [46:22]: "He was running routes all game long and he was on the field for 49 of 53 snaps."

Duds: Players to Avoid

Greg Olson (TE - Arizona Cardinals)

Olson's injury has eliminated his fantasy potential for the season, making him a dud.

Trey Burton (TE - Chicago Bears)

Despite expectations, Burton underperformed with only six targets and limited production, highlighting concerns about the Bears' offense and quarterback play.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [63:00]: "I'm not cutting Trey Burton."

Sam Bradford (QB - Minnesota Vikings)

Bradford's dismal performance, marked by errors and turnovers, categorizes him as a significant dud for fantasy managers.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [54:40]: "Terrified. Terrified."

Special Topics and Player Injuries

Leonard Fournette’s Hamstring Injury

Fournette's injury status raises alarms due to his history of lower-body injuries, diminishing his reliability as a fantasy asset.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [15:26]: "He just was going to get back in there ready to injury."

Derrick Henry’s Utilization Concerns

Henry's usage by the Tennessee Titans sparked concerns about his workload and potential for injury, especially with changes in the team's backfield configuration.

Notable Quote:
Andy Holloway [59:25]: "He has a history of this where you can't tell who he is going to be."

Rising Stars and Strategic Pickups

George Kittle’s Breakout Potential

Kittle emerged as a high-value tight end with significant targets and touchdown potential, making him a priority for fantasy pickups.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [47:28]: "He has the athletic profile, the team, the opportunity to take a big step forward."

Philip Lindsay’s Dual-Threat Capability

Lindsay’s ability to contribute both on the ground and through the air makes him a compelling addition to fantasy rosters, especially in leagues that reward versatility.

Notable Quote:
Jason Moore [49:35]: "He was used in such high leverage situations when this game was on the line."

Conclusion

The Fantasy Footballers provided a comprehensive analysis of Week 1, identifying key performers who can anchor fantasy teams and advising on players whose initial performances may not align with their fantasy value. Injuries and quarterback play were underscored as critical factors influencing player performances and future fantasy decisions. Rising stars like Alvin Kamara and George Kittle were highlighted as must-pick players, while duds such as Greg Olson and Sam Bradford were cautioned against. Strategic trade recommendations and waiver wire pickups were offered to help fantasy managers navigate the early stages of the season successfully.

Notable Closing Quote:
Jason Moore [67:21]: "If you're going to play some daily, check out draft.comballers. We'll see you tomorrow."

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This detailed summary encapsulates the essential discussions, insights, and strategies presented by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright, providing valuable takeaways for both seasoned and novice fantasy football enthusiasts.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

This is Melvin Gordon from the Los Angeles Chargers and you listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in.

[Mike Wright]

Felt like I had to get in there, man.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's jacked this morning. I love it.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in the Fantasy Footballers podcast for Monday, September 10th. I am so excited to get into it today. So many questions, so many answers.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to do a four hour show?

[Jason Moore]

Let's do a four and a half hour show. I know, I look, I'm excited.

[Mike Wright]

I'll do it. This was, don't tempt me with a good time.

[Jason Moore]

One heck of a Sunday capped by an incredible, unbelievable performance.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, the Sunday night game by Aaron Rodgers. Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I told my wife, like, I had it on. I'm sitting on the couch, she's playing on her phone, she's waiting to watch a show. And I'm watching the end of this game and then I just sit there and I just, my jaw is just on the floor and I'm just exhaling, saying, like, is that one of the greatest games of football I've ever seen?

[Andy Holloway]

It was a true treat to be able to watch. I mean, this is one of those, like, you know, they'll talk about that for a long, long time. Even though it was only week one, opening week, you know, if this was playoffs, this would have been, you know, in the top five greatest games or performances of all time for what happened. It was, it was insane. Andy, you tweeted out. Well, there goes because it was done.

[Mike Wright]

Green Bay packers, their season were done.

[Andy Holloway]

Was over. Devonte Adams, his potential done. Jimmy Graham potential over. Everything was gone for the packers. And then it's like, I'm coming back out. I'm going to win the game.

[Jason Moore]

It was incredible. It was amazing. And it's so good for football.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

To have Aaron Rodgers, the best player on the planet, healthy. End of story. Now, if you're a Bears fan right now, sorry, you're having a Rough morning. Although you shouldn't because you had a good. You played well. Khalil Mack is everything you hoped he'd be and your future is bright. So that's what I'll say to you. Quick question of the day. We have. So we're gonna. We've got all the stud muffins pooped in the big boy pants. The rising stars. We've got a jam packed show. We're gonna answer as many questions as we can. Tomorrow's the waiver show. But here's the quick question. Which week one bust are you trying to trade for? Lot of candidates, obviously. Week one. My goodness. People are pulling out the jump to conclusions. Matt again. Oh, this is what we do.

[Mike Wright]

I'm doing it.

[Jason Moore]

They want to declare.

[Mike Wright]

I'm trying not to freak out.

[Jason Moore]

It's like Declari before the battle is over. Or conceding defeat. Look, there is time. I almost wore my Cardinals hat today to prove.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, well, no, no. The Cardinals, we can accept it. The Cardinals are done.

[Jason Moore]

That's why I didn't do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I'm excited to do that.

[Jason Moore]

I want to say one week doesn't make your season, but maybe it doesn't for the Cardinals.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a couple things you can gleam. Pooping, though, are not gonna surprise us.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. All right, I'm gonna jump in here. The one I really wanted to put in here was the guy that Jason's going to talk about.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, me too. So Jason's got the unanimous one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. It's a great pick. But I wanted to bring up the name of Evan Ingram because there is going to be some tumult in the tight end landscape if you work. I'm sure we're going to talk about Greg Olson who re injured his foot.

[Jason Moore]

Delaney Walker.

[Mike Wright]

Delaney Walker. Looks like he's out for the season. Evan Ingram is the name I want to bring up because if you didn't watch the game, if you're just checking out the box score in the fantasy points, you go, what? The dude had three points. He sucks. He ruined my. He ruined my week. But if you watch the game, you saw what happened. He had a monster play. An absolute sensational catch called back on a garbage penalty. Those things happen. Okay, three. If he. If he had that pass, I mean, he's up to five, maybe six points, which then you're not furious with him. Then he had another big play called back on. I believe the penalty was on Ingram and that would have put him up near the 8, 9 points where you're very pleased with that performance from a tight end. So if you are in trouble and someone is tilting over Evan Ingram, I am interested.

[Jason Moore]

If you didn't play Rob against Rob Gronkowski, you probably were okay with whatever poop you got. Because Kelsey Graham, Walker, Olson, I actually.

[Andy Holloway]

Have some numbers here on that. Take a quick time out and talk about the tight end landscape. Obviously.

[Mike Wright]

Look, this is a Zach Morris timeout.

[Andy Holloway]

I needed some juice from Trey Burton going against Andy's unbelievable Kansas City stack. Thanks, Andy. And I didn't get it. And a lot of people were like, oh, Trey Burton, Trey Boo, boo. Trey, Trey Boo. Trey Dudu is pretty good.

[Jason Moore]

I've heard them all. Trey doo doo, Trey Boohoo.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'll give you that. But I'm still at. Not at all disappointed with the fact that. Look, the reason we like Trey Burton is because he was one of the last tight ends that you would draft. You're not drafting him till the seventh, eighth, ninth round, allowing you to stack better picks instead of taking those tight ends that went ahead of him like Kelsey, Olson, Ingram, all these guys. So here's the thing. In the top 12, your 12 drafted tight ends on average in the leagues, guess how many had more than eight points in half point ppr?

[Jason Moore]

Five.

[Andy Holloway]

Two. You had Gronk and Jordan Reed. That's it.

[Jason Moore]

Five touchdowns were the total scored by tight ends in the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Kelsey had 1.1, Olson left with injury, Walker left with injury, and Joku had 2.8. Burton had 2, Ingram had 2.8. It was a crap show for everyone.

[Jason Moore]

It was. It was. All right, I'm going to go with Chris Hogan. Yeah, I'm going to target Chris Hogan. Look, I know it was a nice game for Philip Dorsett. I know we're going to bring him up on the waiver show and we should. I came out my bold predictions. I even said Philip Dorsett might lead the team in fantasy points through four weeks. But Chris Hogan. This was an anomalous game for Chris Hogan. He is a talented wide receiver who simply didn't. You know, he fell fourth in the target share this week behind Dorsett, Gronk and James White. I don't expect it to be the norm. We've seen enough of Chris Hogan and.

[Mike Wright]

He was out there a ton.

[Jason Moore]

Like, if you are looking for wide receiver help, I would target Chris Hogan this week. He was on the field. It just didn't work out in week one. He's my target. Trade target the wide receiver 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

That was. I was debating between the guy I picked And Chris Hogan. And Chris Hogan, you need to know, you know, because he's not like this super highly drafted wide receiver, there's a chance that come your waiver day, it's not impossible. Look at who was dropped.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

And if someone dropped Chris Hogan, you.

[Jason Moore]

Don'T even need a trade prediction. You will see a little line dropped. Chris Hogan signed Philip Dorsett. You're going to see that in some leagues.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And that would be a mistake, especially once Edelman comes back and takes over that Dorsett role. Mine that you two wanted. Because the running back position so important for fantasy. Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt. A lot of people frustrated, they say, oh, he, you know, he's not the workhorse. That's. That's not true. He actually was on the field a workhorse. Amount of percentage snaps, a total, you know, percentage of carries, percentage of targets to the running back. You're disappointed in the output because Kansas City went ham and they only needed Tyree Kill. But here's the thing. You wish you had more carries. Kareem Hunt looked great when he got them. His yards per carry and what he was doing on the field was fantastic. But you wanted more volume. We already knew that that was going to happen sometimes. This is Andy Reed. You already. This isn't like, oh, his carries like, like Royce Freeman. Right. You might need to be worried about the carries coming Royce Freeman's way for, like, as far as on the season. Kareem Hunt, you're going to have games where he doesn't get the ball as many times as you want, but he's great.

[Jason Moore]

It was two goal lines, opportunities that he didn't get the ball. Yeah, that was what it was. They had two chances and they did two shovel passes.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

So it was bad. It was bad luck. But Kareem did look good. Obviously, he's going to be spelled by Spencer Ware.

[Andy Holloway]

Owners go on tilt, too. When it's your guy, you overvalue them. And I think sometimes you, you go, oh, I drafted the worst.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

Relax. That's what we're going to tell you. There are going to be some decisions you can make this week because you have to. But just breathe. I mean, Jason, how are you doing?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm doing great. I'm very upset that I'm going to score the second most. My super uber team. Brooks and I managed.

[Jason Moore]

Super uber team, potential undefeated team.

[Andy Holloway]

My potential undefeated team is probably going to score the second most points in the league and ran up against a buzzsaw, Pat Mahomes, Tyreek Hill, you were, you were saying on the show, you going back and forth all week between Ben Roethlisberger and Tyrod Taylor.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm so angry at the weather because I believe that if the weather was good, you would not have taken them out and put him 100%.

[Mike Wright]

He would have.

[Jason Moore]

I took Tyrod out on Saturday, put in Pat Mahomes because I knew I needed the stack to beat you. And that's a strategic thing you can do if you are a underdog in a matchup. I prefer to look at those opportunities for a dual blow up. I mean, that's what I bet on. I bet on, hey, if Tyreek's going to have a giant game, he's only going to do it with his quarterback, Pat Mahomes. Let's sign Mahomes and flex him in. And that's one of the things that's nice about streaming a quarterback. I drafted a quarterback late, second to last in our league. So I didn't really feel a lot of attachment to Big Ben on week one. Didn't feel attachment to Tyrod despite loving him.

[Mike Wright]

Big Ben wasn't really attached to his team either.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Although he was, he was down with the Cleveland Browns.

[Jason Moore]

Start your big bend next week is going to be. He's playing Kansas City next week and I'm going to play him over Pat Mahomes on my roster because it's going to be. Is going to be a comeback week for Big Ben. Maybe the start of the week already. Oh, we'll see. Follow us on twitter@the ff ballers, the websites the fancyfootballers.com our community is jointhefoot.com and I told Mike before the show I want him to post a picture of our setup, our Sunday morning setup. We've got a. It's a bit of a. I promise you, no one's watched more football this weekend than this show. If that's true, if that makes you have more confidence in, in what we say, nobody saw more football than us.

[Mike Wright]

It's a little bit of a lawnmower man situation where you are just, there's a lot going on. Yeah. And I know that you two fellas do not understand my reference.

[Jason Moore]

We both looked at each other saying, who's lawnmower?

[Mike Wright]

We're just, we're in it. We're in it. We'll put it up.

[Jason Moore]

We'll post it on Instagram. Instagram.com fantasy footballers. All right, without further ado, let's get into the rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

Weekly rewind.

[Jason Moore]

I really don't care if this show goes long, by the way. Oh, I don't care. I'm too excited.

[Mike Wright]

Dad left and the fun uncle is running the show.

[Jason Moore]

Look, I'm on some medicine, some sweets, all right?

[Andy Holloway]

Caffeine.

[Mike Wright]

There's no rules today.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man, the old cough. Delaney Walker.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, why you gotta bring me down?

[Jason Moore]

Diagnosed with a dislocated ankle along with a fracture almost certainly done for the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Was in the air cast one of those gruesome injuries.

[Jason Moore]

Not good. Unfortunate. Fantasy wise, this. Look, he wasn't efficient this week, but Corey Davis led the team in targets by a lot. Now he only caught six of them. I think he had 15.

[Andy Holloway]

Part of the problem with that was that there was also an injury to Marcus Mariota. So that's the one that I am most interested in here. I think that the Titans. Look, I don't think Mariota is some extremely awesome accurate quarterback. I think he's good for fantasy because he runs the ball. But he is able to produce fantasy points where Blaine Gabbard is not. So that's the one where Corey Davis. If Mariota is back, Corey Davis looks great. If Blaine Gabbard's there, I'm still worried for Corey Davis.

[Jason Moore]

Interesting. Okay. Mariota did exit with the elbow injury. We'll have further reports this week. I don't have any other information for you. The Aaron rodgers knee injury. Dr. David Chao, who was all over this injury from the beginning, nailing it. He talked about, he talked about instantaneously the fact that it was not an ACL injury. It looks like an MCL sprain that would limit his movement. If you read an article by Dr. David Chow, he talks about the fact that this could be a two to four week movement limitation situation. Aaron Rodgers said after the game immediately that he is playing in week two. He's proven, as Jason tweeted, that he doesn't need all of his legs to be the best quarterback in football. And that's all there is to it.

[Mike Wright]

He is going to hope he has both of them next week.

[Jason Moore]

Though he does play Minnesota. That's going to be tough. All right, big news. Leonard Fernet left the game because of a. Is this correct? No, that's not the injury. It's a hamstring injury to Leonard Fournette. Doug Marone was optimistic about the injury, but TJ Yeldin is going to be on your waiver wire opportunities this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's probably the top AD this week. As we, as we sit by and wait for the Leonard Fournette news regardless of the News.

[Jason Moore]

This is, this is the problem.

[Mike Wright]

This is trouble. This is what we talked about with Leonard Fournette during the off season. It's the injury prone conversation and argument. You don't want to just, you don't want to just throw it out. But Leonard Fournette's lower body just sustains injuries and a hamstring is going to lead to other problems.

[Andy Holloway]

So I selfishly, I, you know, when this happened, concerned, I immediately went and thought of the season long rankings where, you know, you take your rights. And I Bet on a 16 game season from Leonard Fournette because if he played 16, I think he was going to be fantastic. And immediately I just went, man, it's hard to take that bet when in high school, in college and in the pros. In his single year, he has just not been able to stay home.

[Jason Moore]

Now, what do you make of this? Doug Marone said that the hamstring strain is in a quote, good part of his leg.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

For whatever that's worth.

[Mike Wright]

The good part.

[Jason Moore]

The good part of the leg.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't want a hamstring in the bad part of your leg.

[Jason Moore]

Just saying it's seedy.

[Mike Wright]

It's a seedy part of town.

[Andy Holloway]

It's. Look, whenever you have an explosive athlete, you know you're not. I mean, there's a difference between having a running back at a wide receiver with a hamstring issue than an offensive lineman. You have to run imitation Rolexes.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's fine. I missed it, I missed it. But I'm sure it was great.

[Jason Moore]

The seedy part of his leg. Ah, but luckily it was in the good part of town. Yeah, look, Doug Baldwin, not good. MCL sprain on the opposite knee of the one he was struggling with. He has now evened up. He's down to two bad knees.

[Mike Wright]

He's down to 60% and he's going.

[Andy Holloway]

To miss a couple weeks. This is what I'm, you know, definitely calling. If you listen to the players afterwards, they were already. Russell was talking about we hope he gets back soon in a way that just infers this is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And this is going to be a hot take. I'd rather have. I'd rather start Brandon Marshall than Tyler Lockett.

[Andy Holloway]

Brandon Marshall has looked good. I'm so. Look, this is something I don't want to say because I've been anti Brandon Marshall for the last two years, but he looked good in preseason. He looked good in this game in classic form. He pushed a guy out of his way and caught a touchdown. Yeah, he got the penalty call this time. Got caught which about half the time he gets caught. But that's, that's nothing new.

[Mike Wright]

They got a superstar tight end and.

[Andy Holloway]

Then he had another touchdown later.

[Jason Moore]

Are you talking about. I don't even want to bring him up yet.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, we're saving.

[Jason Moore]

I want to save him.

[Andy Holloway]

That's okay.

[Jason Moore]

Talk about who benefits from this injury. In the, in the stud muffins. Marquis Goodwin exited with a quad injury. Returned, but then got pulled from the game again. Marquis Goodwin goose do.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, he took a shot right in the thigh. He got hit in the, in the bad part too.

[Jason Moore]

In the bad part of town.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Did he, did Pierre Garcon get goosed?

[Jason Moore]

No, he had like two catches for 20 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Interesting. Oh, the bet.

[Jason Moore]

You're going to take it. No, you're going to take it. With the injury.

[Andy Holloway]

I will not take, I will allow you out of it as a gentleman because, because it was a heads up bet, not an injury bet. So you are forgiven.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

I won the bet.

[Mike Wright]

The fans do not approve.

[Jason Moore]

Desean Jackson concussion. Jeremy Hill left the game with an injury to the right knee. Didn't look good. And then the big news. Greg Olson exited with a foot injury. Was later seen on crutches in a walking boot. And it is confirmed, it's confirmed now that. No, what's confirmed is that it's an injury to the same foot that was hurt, the one that Jason spoke all off season about risking re injury with and it happened almost too soon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, certainly. I mean I, I, you're going to.

[Jason Moore]

Take a victory, a victory limp.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want a victory lap on an injury. I don't. But the reason we were, the reason we were trying to tell you that the chance of him wasn't he pumped the brakes. He was last week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was your pump the brakes last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, the reason that there's a high percentage chance, 20% chance of re aggravating the specific injury he had. But then, and if you it was on another podcast, but one of my bold predictions was his foot's going to get re injured this year because he weighs over 250 pounds on the field 100% of the time and is older. Like everything stacks up to re injured. So if it is a re injury of the same injury, he should be out for this season, maybe make it back for the last couple of weeks. But he's irrelevant this year.

[Jason Moore]

That's really unfortunate. Look, the tight end waiver wire is going to be one of the biggest Things to talk about this week. I look forward to doing that. Before we move into the stud muffins, I want to thank Casper for sponsoring today's podcast. You guys know about Casper. They're the sleep brand that continues to revolutionize its line of products to create an exceptionally comfortable sleep experience one night at a time. I can speak from experience. The Casper mattress is great and they have three different models. The original, the wave and the essential. Casper mattresses are perfectly designed to soothe and cradle your natural geometry. We all have different geometry, right?

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, look, there's some overarching questions with everybody we talk about on the show today, whether they're part of the stud muffins segment or the pooped in their big boy pants segment. Those questions revolve around things like, should we expect this to continue? Is this a waiver pickup? Do you let this guy go because they pooped the bed or do you hold on to them? These are the type of questions we're going to answer Today, let's start with the quarterback. Stud muffins this week, Ryan. You got to start at the top, Patrick.

[Andy Holloway]

This is true fits magic.

[Jason Moore]

417 yards, four touchdowns. I believe all of them were 35 plus yards and he ran for one.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, there's not much more you can say than the perfect game.

[Mike Wright]

21 completions for over 400 yards, people.

[Jason Moore]

Now here is the thing about Magic. Sometimes he makes things disappear. And yes, I would not read too much into this performance because he has a long track record of flashing in the NFL. How do you guys feel about Ryan Fitzpatrick moving forward? Because look, the matchups stink. The next three matchups stink. Philly.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Pittsburgh, Chicago. I think it's fool's gold or a magic trick.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

My bigger question is not about Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's about the New Orleans Saints. I mean, are we just off to another slow start like last year? I mean, they, they were a Super bowl contending defense last year. They were one miracle away from an NFC championship game and can't win the.

[Jason Moore]

Opening game of the season. They just can't.

[Mike Wright]

The beard comes in Ryan Fitzpatrick and just reigns all over them.

[Andy Holloway]

It's almost. It's genuinely like they did not respect.

[Mike Wright]

They were playing for week two.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They did not game plan to respect the deep ball of Ryan Fitzpatrick. You know, say what you will, I'm. I'm going to still consider the New Orleans Saints defense as a quality defense. They have the pieces there and we saw them last year get torched week one. And Andy, you brought up this ridiculous stat about their week one.

[Jason Moore]

They've lost seven of eight now and five straight.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

And here's the thing. You could easily. I mean, is there a better team with more deep weapons than Tampa Evans, D. Jacks and Godwin O.J.

[Andy Holloway]

Howard?

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I don't know if there's a team that can beat you deep better than the Bucks can. That was something we didn't see from D. Jacks last year because him and Winston couldn't get on the same page. One of the reasons this show I think has succeeded is because we're in the trenches with you.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

I started the New Orleans defense.

[Andy Holloway]

I did too. Against in the Listener League. Negative nine.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, people are sharing all of their negative point totals depending on your league scoring. The Saints defense let you down. They were at home against a backup quarterback and the backup quarterback led the league in fantasy points.

[Andy Holloway]

The New Orleans Saints. Vegas, who always, you know, tries to get it right the most and is probably the most accurate Predictor. They had the Saints winning by 10.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Did not even.

[Mike Wright]

They didn't cover well.

[Jason Moore]

This game was what, 88 points scored. Drew Brees had a monster game. 37 for 45 for 439 and three gets Cleveland, Atlanta, New York on the schedule. Drew Brees looks great.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And as does Alvin Camara.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Pat Mahomes. How you doing? Pat Mahomes. Oh, man, you know what? I said this yesterday when we were watching the game. Alex Smith was made a deep ball thrower by Tyreek Hill, not the other way around. And Pat Mahomes knows how to throw the deep ball. And I was impressed with the offensive line performance in this game from Kansas City. It gives me some hope that Pat Mahomes can do it long term. What do you guys think about his long term poss. You know, potential. He has to go to Pittsburgh next week. I mentioned that. Then San Francisco, Denver.

[Andy Holloway]

Pat Mahomes is a quarterback one this year. I mean I was tempted to make him a quarterback one and have him be a highly drafted guy. I was simply worried about the opening schedule going. Chiefs, Steelers, Broncos, as three of his first four games. I'm sorry. Yeah, not Chiefs, Chargers. Obviously he plays for the Chiefs. News alert. But the reality is with the weapons he has, the arm and the way that they are letting him run as well when necessary. It wasn't really necessary all that much last game. He's not going to slow down. I mean he's got Broncos, Jaguars back to back in a couple of weeks. I might take a break there, but otherwise I think you've got to stay in the flames with Mahomes.

[Mike Wright]

I think you do stay in the flames. But I will say this is a DeSean Watson line. He had 15 completions for over 250 yards and four touchdowns. So before, before you jump on the steed and ride through the town square proclaiming that you have the quarterback steal of the draft. I'm not there yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's not going to score 40 points.

[Jason Moore]

He looks very. You're right, Mike. But you had a defensive. You had a special team score for the Chiefs.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

That brought the offense off the field. You had a turnover that brought the ball down to the 10 yard line before he even came out on the field. There were limited, obviously 27 attempts, limited opportunities.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. But we talked about how disappointing Kareem Hunt is or it was for fantasy this week. You take those two opportunities that turned into the. Into the Tom Brady pad, the stats forward, shuffle pass forward, which is.

[Andy Holloway]

I hate it.

[Mike Wright]

It's incredible that that is a pass because technically speaking, he lobbed it forward, so it's a forward pass. But you take him down to 256 and two, you're not talking all of a sudden. We're not freaking out about Pat Mahomes.

[Andy Holloway]

No. But if he does that week in, week out, the whole season, he's a quarterback. One for sure.

[Mike Wright]

If he does this every week.

[Andy Holloway]

No, the 256 and 2. Oh.

[Jason Moore]

With the rushing artist.

[Andy Holloway]

That's my.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Philip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Case Keenum, Joe Flacco, the other muffins at the quarterback position. The standouts there. Mike's start of the week. Philip Rivers got it done. They lost, but he got it done. You saw the involvement of Melvin Gordon in the passing game, padding the Philip Rivers stats. Love it.

[Mike Wright]

You saw Tyrell Williams, you saw. How many drop touchdowns did we see?

[Andy Holloway]

Three drop touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Tyrell himself had two, and I think.

[Andy Holloway]

Two other dropped long bombs, and they were all Tyrell and Travis Benjamin.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Case Keenum, nice game.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a good quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, in positive matchups, Case Keenum will be a fantasy quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he gets Oakland next week, so that's a positive matchup.

[Jason Moore]

Moving on to running backs, Alvin Camara.

[Mike Wright]

He just does. I don't even know what to do about Alvin Camara.

[Jason Moore]

Super Camario doing it again. Eight carries, nine catches, three touchdowns. Here's the first guy goes on.

[Andy Holloway]

The first guy that. And I realized it was Tampa Bay. And Mark Ingram wasn't there. But this is the first player this year that I've. I've watched and immediately concluded like I was wrong. I mean, I didn't have him buried. He was like my seventh running back. But he shouldn't have been my seventh running back. I mean, he is. He is what we thought he was.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just unbelievable when he touches the ball. People can't tackle him every single time.

[Jason Moore]

He's got.

[Andy Holloway]

He's great.

[Jason Moore]

The Jamal Charles gene.

[Mike Wright]

He might be better than Jamal Charles at least. And he's in a better situation, too.

[Jason Moore]

He reminds me a lot of him. He reminds me a lot.

[Mike Wright]

He. He breaks the game. I mean, when you are that much better than NFL players, the people who make it to the NFL are the top. How are you that much better?

[Jason Moore]

That's how I feel about Tyree Kill. Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyree Kill and Alvin Camara.

[Mike Wright]

Makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

You cannot look at efficiency stats and say regression is coming because what they can do on the field is not like what other people on the field are doing.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Ridiculous.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So news alert. Start. Alvin Camara, James Conner, Joe Mixon, Melvin Gordon, Adrian Peterson. AP came out with 166 all purpose yards, 26 for 96 and a touchdown. The offensive line looked great against an Arizona defensive front. We expected more from.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

On the road. AP over. Under a thousand yards this year.

[Mike Wright]

Under.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that's. I just. I just had to test you.

[Andy Holloway]

But I expected a good game because he had two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Is he a sell high?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I would.

[Jason Moore]

Would you sell him? Mike? You. You took the plunge on him in our league of record.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Appropriately, you did it against your will, knowing the opportunity was there.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to wait one more week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, you might want to wait one.

[Mike Wright]

More week because he gets to take on the Indianapolis Colts who will yet again make him look good. And that value could go up even more.

[Jason Moore]

My dynasty team will like that.

[Andy Holloway]

The guy I want to talk about, and obviously James Conner is huge news. But Joe Mixon is the one where. Yes, he played Indianapolis. We expected a good game and he was your start of the week. Yes. That has nothing to do with what I care about. What I cared about was he was a true. An absolute workhorse back. He had the lion's share of snaps, the lion's share of carries and the lion's share. And this is the most important one of targets to the running back.

[Jason Moore]

That's a triple lion because. Wow, that was definitely a Puma. But that's all right.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a kitty cat.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Lion's roar. You did more of a.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you know, in the passing game you got to be much more agile.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Than a line. You got to be the Puma. But the point was Gio Bernard has been a great pass catching back, but he is not as good as Joe Mixon in that role. And the Bengals said, oh, I realized that.

[Jason Moore]

And guess what? They won. Yeah, that helps too.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going to be.

[Jason Moore]

He looks like he has the ability to be a girly David Johnson. Levy on Bell level workhorse.

[Andy Holloway]

And you know who else we needed to throw in here? He's not in our stud muffins section because he wasn't fantasy wise. He didn't finish at the top. But the same exact thing happened for Jordan Howard. He was on the field in a certain way and using the passing game. And tell me, did he pass the eye test on how he caught the ball? He looked different than the last few years.

[Jason Moore]

He looked fine. I don't think he looked different to me. But usually in the last year, he's the best friend of a young quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Every pass is awkward. Awkward. And he has to bobble it to catch it. He just caught the pass. This, this year, one week too early.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Look, he's a workhorse. We loved Jordan Howard and he looks great.

[Mike Wright]

But that's the thing that Jason's pointing out is last year he wasn't a workhorse. I mean, he. He's on the ground game. Yes, but he was getting a lot of third downs. He's getting a lot of the passing work. Changes everything.

[Jason Moore]

Matt realizes that if you're going to put a guy on the field, he has to be a threat to catch the ball. Whether or not he's the best and most talented guy for the defense, the defense has to think about him catching the ball. That's what he realizes. So he gets those targets. And Mitch Trubisky kept it short. They were trying to protect that lead. Let's. We got to circle Back to James Conner. 31 for 135. Two touchdowns, five for 57. 100% of snaps. I believe he was the single most used running back in football. We have to talk about James Conner for a ton of reasons because the questions are going to come flooding in and this is a big conclusion, a big decision right here. What do you do with James Conner? Lev Bell tweeted a little emoji with a magnifying eye with a monocle after the game. They tied the Browns.

[Mike Wright]

They did.

[Jason Moore]

And James Conner went hamburgers.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Incredible workload performance that was very, very strong as well.

[Andy Holloway]

He did have a game costing fumble.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. The question for James Conner, I guess what you're asking is what do you do?

[Jason Moore]

Do you trade him?

[Mike Wright]

Do you trade him or you hold him? I holding.

[Jason Moore]

If you're not the Lev Bell owner and you have James Conner, there's an opportunity there. If you believe Lev Bell is coming back to flip James Conner right, either to the left, Bell owner.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Or to somebody else while he has value. Because let's be honest, if Leb Bell walks in the door on Monday, James Conner disappears from your roster 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So that's the.

[Mike Wright]

His value disappears. He's just a handcuff.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I saw someone who was offered Le'Veon Bell for James Conner. He was offered like, hey, I have Le'Veon Bell, you have James Connor. I will give you. I'll swap you, you get Lev Bell and that's like an auto. Yes. However, you need to think Philosophically here. If you knew that Lev Bell was coming back week 10, which is a.

[Mike Wright]

Which is a change and that trade.

[Andy Holloway]

Is terrible, then I would rather have the first 10 weeks than the playoff weeks because you can't. This is just.

[Mike Wright]

You got to get in.

[Andy Holloway]

You cannot win in the playoffs without getting there.

[Jason Moore]

Let's start here with the question and we'll continue to discuss this this week. Obviously just handicap for me the odds that Leve Bell plays week two. In your mind, what are the odds that Leve Bell plays week two? And maybe that'll help our listeners make their own decision.

[Andy Holloway]

In my mind right now it's under 20%.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, 20% was the number that came to my head.

[Jason Moore]

I'm at 50.

[Andy Holloway]

50, okay, sure.

[Jason Moore]

For week two. So I would be looking to flip Connor if I could. And here's the way you do it in my opinion is you flip Connor for somebody you know has season long value. That's what I did.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Jason Moore]

That's all you do. And then you don't really risk a lot. What if you could trade James Connor for Devonta Freeman right now? Oh, I mean, what, assuming that that's a target?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean even without, even if the knees a little banged up, I mean, maybe that's your target right there. I would do it. I think this was an ideal situation for Connor. 100% of snaps happened to score. You can't predict touchdowns every single game. And that's my opinion. All right, Chris Thompson, big game.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, we hyper efficient.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Thompson was back again and he looked 11 touches. He looked the part. I love him.

[Andy Holloway]

We need to remember how usable, how valuable he was last season. For fantasy, he is a must start every single week. Will he play 16? I doubt it. But when he's played, he's. I mean, look, he's on the right team. He's got Rule 86 there. If those two guys are healthy, put them in your lineups.

[Jason Moore]

Say quads. Say quad.

[Andy Holloway]

Barkley, it only takes one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's weak.

[Jason Moore]

One play. But look, what's nice is you got a monster week from Saquon against the monster defense because one play defines your week. That's one of the hardest things for fantasy analysts is you can be right on a player for an entire game. I felt that way about Michael Crabtree. Barely targeted, barely catching the ball. I moved him down my rankings. One touchdown changes the week. Still think he stinks. All right, wide receivers, guys, what do you think about the one touch man? Tyreek, the.

[Andy Holloway]

I can, I can Be honest, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Why don't you talk about him for a little bit?

[Andy Holloway]

I hate him. I mean, that's just. Look, I'm still a human. I'm still a human being.

[Mike Wright]

I have feelings.

[Andy Holloway]

I have feelings and you hurt the heck out of my feelings. I don't like.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man, I love him so much.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. Look, he's faster than every single player on the field. When you watch the snap and the quick release and then he's throwing to the middle of the field and Tyreek Hill is there already from the outside, you go, how did he get there? He, you know, he's going to be efficient. He's going to have huge games. I will say this. We brought this up. We got a two year sample and granted, maybe it was Alex Smith, but maybe it was. Maybe it was more of an Andy Reid thing. Tyreek Hill is great on the road, so just, just pay attention to it going forward because if over the next four weeks that trend continues where he's used significantly more on the road, then maybe that's a game plan thing.

[Jason Moore]

7 for 1 sec. 7 for 169 and 2. Had a kick return touchdown. Made some catches that were unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Had a rush for a touchdown that was called a pass.

[Jason Moore]

He's got top five potential.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Yeah, absolutely.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Big weeks from all three of the Tampa White House. The Sean Jackson, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin Evans. 7 for 147 and 1. Have we underestimated Mike Evans and his greatness or is this just week one magic?

[Mike Wright]

I think it's a little bit of week one magic, but it was fantastic to see Mike Evans with an actual big play and then yards after the catch. Mike Evans is notorious for being a. For making really awesome receptions and then getting knocked down immediately afterwards. But he escaped the tackle and had a huge touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Michael Thomas. Michael Thomas cut all the passes. 16 for 180 and a touchdown. Now, this kind of thing can happen if the New Orleans defense isn't what we thought it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's. That's the thing about Drew Brees, right? I was anti Drew Brees. He's not going to put up huge numbers on the back of this is going to be a team that is. Has a really successful defense. If the defense is a week one the rest of the year, then Drew Brees is going to be phenomenal. Either way, Michael Thomas will be great. He doesn't have to have 16 receptions to have a great week. It almost seems like it's going to be difficult for him to not be near Double digit reception.

[Jason Moore]

17 targets. He caught 16 of them.

[Andy Holloway]

He's great.

[Jason Moore]

That's good for quarterbacks. Randall Cobb nine for 142 and a touchdown. Kenny Stills four for 106 and two touchdowns. Are these two big boy waiver wire targets this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Kenny Stills not so much in the sense that he only worried about.

[Jason Moore]

He actually is for me.

[Andy Holloway]

He only had five targets.

[Mike Wright]

But this is who Kenny Stills is.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

Kenny Stills is Alshon Jeffrey.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

For Fantasy Football.

[Andy Holloway]

More DeSean Jackson, but yeah, okay, but sure.

[Mike Wright]

But that type of a player where you're not, you're not going to see Michael Thomas. 17 targets going to Kenny Stills.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather pick up Randall Cobb or Kenny Stills?

[Jason Moore]

Great question.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That is to me it's Randall Cobb hands down.

[Jason Moore]

I agree. It's just quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, quarterback. And the issue with Randall Cobb, like there was a period this off season where I was starting to be completely in on Randall Cobb. Like he is a great value. The reason I wasn't is because all the injuries in camp and in preseason.

[Mike Wright]

There'S a lot was a lot of chatter that the team didn't like him. Yeah, but he, I bet they love him now.

[Andy Holloway]

He looked the part this week.

[Jason Moore]

Emmanuel Sanders, Julio Jones, Keenan Allen and Antonio Brown. I don't know how Antonio Brown manages to always have a good game even when his quarterback isn't.

[Andy Holloway]

The first half he had nothing.

[Jason Moore]

Mike. Emmanuel Sanders 10 for 135 and a touchdown on 11 targets. Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

He is my 100%. If he's on any waivers he would be my number one pickup. He to me is a trade target. It's hard to trade after a good week.

[Jason Moore]

An ultimate draft kit value pick from the early off season and at least through one week looked outstanding through two.

[Mike Wright]

Weeks he's going to look outstanding.

[Jason Moore]

Now I want to rotate into the tight end position. Now Rob Gronkowski is pretty good. Seven for one, 23 and one. He Gronk smashed. We're not surprised however. Welcome to the NFL. Will Disley, fourth round rookie tight end, born and raised in Bozeman, Montana. Had a NFL athletic profile that fit quote backup tight end and special teams.

[Mike Wright]

I believe his his actual athletic comp if you look it up. Is Mike Wright there?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. And listen to this. First rookie tight end with a hundred plus receiving yards in his first game since 1968 and I actually have a clip of him running down the seam.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, oh. Come on.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Mike Wright]

What are you doing?

[Andy Holloway]

Still going.

[Jason Moore]

Going strong. That is said that.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know his actual nickname?

[Jason Moore]

What's his nickname?

[Andy Holloway]

Uncle Will. Yes. That's his real.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

We're not making that. That's his nickname.

[Jason Moore]

Look, I say I bring that down home tune of him running down the seam with respect because this is a player. That and I was talking to Brooks this morning about it. He just does it. He just gets it done. That's what it said in college. He was a fourth round pick. Quote all in. With his commitment to the team and what he has to do. He won't blow you away with talent or athleticism, but he does his job. Kicked Mike right in the Vanettes this week. I kicked him right like him in the Vanettes.

[Mike Wright]

You jerk. You stole all my thunder. I was. When he scored, it was like, oh, no, not Vanette.

[Jason Moore]

Will.

[Andy Holloway]

Who is that?

[Jason Moore]

Will Disley. And now Doug Baldwin's out. So the question is there of. Do you overreact to week one or do you. Do you buy into him being a pass catching option on a team that has very few.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think there's.

[Mike Wright]

I refuse.

[Andy Holloway]

I think there are still far better options. I will say, woohoo.

[Mike Wright]

Uncle Will.

[Andy Holloway]

Uncle Will.

[Jason Moore]

See I picked the right music.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean the argument in his favor is what you're saying. With Baldwin gone, with Jimmy Graham gone.

[Jason Moore]

Should he be picked up? That's the simple question.

[Andy Holloway]

I will not be picking him up. But you have to, you have to be okay with like certain people are going to pick him up and you can't really make fun of them for picking him up and saying, oh, you're overreacting because he still has a quarterback that's going to throw a lot of touchdowns and a lot of yards and there's just not that many other options. So you could do worse. But I am going to wait and see.

[Jason Moore]

You're waiting on Uncle Will.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to wait on Uncle Will. There's other options out there.

[Jason Moore]

Ebron or Uncle Will on the waiver wire. Eric Ebron. Four for 51 and a touchdown on five targets.

[Andy Holloway]

I will take Ebron. The guy who is an actual athletic freak. He's still got to do it in the NFL. Look, this is week one. You want to know one of the ways that you beat a team?

[Jason Moore]

It could be the Greg Ogletree of the tight end position.

[Andy Holloway]

Surprise them. I promise you. I promise you that Denver was not prepared for Will Disney, for Will Disley down the field. Okay. I mean this is, that's one of the things you have to keep in mind.

[Jason Moore]

That's a great point.

[Andy Holloway]

Scheming, going.

[Jason Moore]

Pay attention to this guy, that's an absolutely great point. Jordan Reed, Rule 86, came to play 4 for 48 and a touchdown. He was flexing and stuff afterwards. So he's got to be good, right? Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And he should only be getting more healthy right now as far as from what his original injury was. More snaps next week is what I expect.

[Mike Wright]

You should be really, really happy if you drafted Jordan Reed right now.

[Jason Moore]

George Kittle, five for 90 on nine targets.

[Mike Wright]

You should be very happy.

[Jason Moore]

He's one of my, one of my favorites. So before we get into the pooped in their big boy pants, the segment in which you can, I don't know, maybe get a little relief from your pain. Share. We'll share in the pain with you.

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk about they relieve themselves on the field.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, goodness. Nice, Mike. The rising stars for this week and this year, they're brought to you by fantasychamps.com where you can get fantasy football trophies and rings and belts and jerseys. It's awesome. Swag out your league, swag out your team. My rising star this week is Chris Thompson, running back for the Washington Redskins. Heavily involved, a best friend of a player like Alex Smith. Alex Smith knows how to get the ball to the best players in space. Loves the short yardage. Chris Thompson looked like a great player just like he did last year. I mean, so I think you just sign and play Chris Thompson until he's either hurt or gives you a reason not to.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. My rising star this week we just mentioned a second ago, it's George Kittle. George Kittle. Right off the bat, I realize that Goodwin went down and then his involvement rised a little bit. But the truth is right from the.

[Mike Wright]

Get go, I'm going to go rose a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Right from the get go, Kittle was utilized. He was running routes. Oh, yeah, he was.

[Mike Wright]

He just missed a touchdown being targeted.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he did have a case of the drop season this game. But what you want is you want nine. I mean, look, he has the athletic profile, the team, the opportunity to take a big step forward. And there's a lot of conversation this offseason. Is Kittle going to do that? And after week one, you have to believe he's going to because he was so involved for a tight end. Nine targets for a tight end is. You can't ask for more than that.

[Jason Moore]

If you. Yeah, and he was a design target. It wasn't a. And if you made your conclusion that you might have been wrong about Alvin Camara in week one, I made my conclusion right away. That I was wrong about George Kittle. I was concerned that Kittle was a product of opportunity last year that wasn't going to be there with a return of Pierre Garcon that wasn't going to be there with Jerick McKinnon, who's now gone, which probably helps George Kittle a little bit.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

And then Goodwin missed the game. But I think Kittle is as sure of a top 10, 12 tight end as you can get on the waiver wire this week. I'll be targeting him.

[Mike Wright]

Agreed.

[Jason Moore]

And it's just a matter of how much of your budget you'll spend. We'll talk about it tomorrow. Mike, I'm very surprised with your pick here.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know why you're surprised.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I'm surprised only because I feel like it's risky business. So tell. Tell the people who you're going with.

[Mike Wright]

It's James Conner and you.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you're not wrong. I'm not saying you're wrong.

[Mike Wright]

Gotcha. And it was more. I want to talk about just James Conner. And what is. What does James Conner's performance do now to Le'Veon Bell? Is Le'Veon Bell more likely to dig in and stay home? Is Le'Veon Bell see that his job is replaceable, and maybe he should not have thrown $800,000 into the garbage to stay home. And what do the Steelers do? They can. They can win with James Conner. I understand they tied the game yesterday. They also tied the game losing the turnover battle by minus six. That's impossible. To be in a game at minus six is. It's unheard of in the NFL. James Conner looked the part he looked at in preseason. All of us were saying it all. Everyone watching any sort of Pittsburgh Steelers football was going, holy crap, James Conner looks fantastic. So if the Steelers move forward with Connor, you have a running back one until Levy on Bell comes back.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Some honorable mention rising stars. I wanted to bring up Geronimo Allison.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Looked very secure as the three great long touchdown catch. Philip Dorset had a great week one for Tom Brady. And then Philip Lindsay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Do we talk about him now or do we talk about him in a minute? Guess we'll talk about him when we. When we wait.

[Mike Wright]

He's. He's in the duds. No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

Royce Freeman.

[Mike Wright]

Freeman's in the duds.

[Jason Moore]

No, he's not. So let's talk about Philip Lindsay for a minute.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Philip Lindsay came out. What was impressive to me, by the way.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a running back. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Running back for the Broncos. Very happy that he was a dynasty out in our league by. By yours truly about two weeks ago because I had heard about and seen in preseason flashes from Philip Lindsay. What I didn't expect was a snap count for Lindsay that would match Royce Freeman, that would exceed Devontae Booker's. And to see him used in such high leverage situations when this game was on the line over and over again, we saw Philip Lindsey running out there on the field. He scored the first touchdown of. Of the Broncos season. 15 for 71 on the ground, 2 for 31, and a touchdown through the air. He's going to be in that top five, six waiver ads, isn't he not.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, he's.

[Jason Moore]

He certainly will be.

[Mike Wright]

And he. He should be. They. They talked about, are they going to ride the hot hand in Denver, and Lindsay's hand was engulfed in flames during that game.

[Andy Holloway]

So to me, this.

[Mike Wright]

It made sense for them to keep going to him over and over.

[Andy Holloway]

This is, from my perspective, this is a murky. Keep my hands away from it. I'll put a cheap claim on Lindsey and put him on my bench.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you're moving away from Royce Freeman in a significant way.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm moving away from the Denver Broncos. My fear on Freeman from the get go was Vance Joseph. And it wasn't that, oh, he's so bad. Look, he won the game. I mean, Vance Joseph did what it took. So you can't, you can't criticize him in that way. But what you can say is he does not care about what we care about.

[Mike Wright]

None of them do.

[Andy Holloway]

None of them do. But my. But he is. He has a history of this where you can't tell who he. Who is going to be the running back. And if you put Philip Lindsay in your lineup next week, you're taking a.

[Jason Moore]

Guess regardless of this. Yeah. And I agree with you. And there's a couple things to bring up here. Phil Lindsay won and nobody, no running back had a higher percentage of touches to snaps. So when he was on the field, he touched the ball, which told me that they came out with a design in this game for Philip Lindsay's involvement. The second thing is my caution to Royce Freeman owners in this all off season was related to third down. It was related to why would you ever need to use Royce Freeman on third down? If you have a weapon like Philip Lindsay, why. Why do it? And Lindsey proved that he could do it this week. But if you're a Royce Freeman on her Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Don't.

[Jason Moore]

Which you are, are you freaking out?

[Mike Wright]

No, I am definitely not freaking out.

[Jason Moore]

Still led the team in snaps, and he.

[Mike Wright]

He was 15 carries, 71 yards. The complete absence of passing work. That part is. That part stings because Freeman can do it. But I agree with you. Lindsey's the better option there. But Freeman can't do it. They went to him to grind the game out. And this was on the last possession.

[Jason Moore]

Where you speaking of Lindsey or.

[Mike Wright]

I'm talking about Royce Freeman. And when they needed to get yards and the Seattle Seahawks knew exactly what the Denver Broncos were going to do, Royce Freeman was gouging them.

[Andy Holloway]

Freeman is great.

[Mike Wright]

He's a very good running back.

[Jason Moore]

So if he had scored a touchdown, no one would be talking about him.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. So I'm not freaking out.

[Jason Moore]

Marshawn lynch or Royce Freeman. Which would you rather have on your roster right now?

[Andy Holloway]

Lynch.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, we haven't seen him yet.

[Jason Moore]

But that's close, though, because they seem similar to me. Limited passing down work. All right, let's move on.

[Andy Holloway]

Hooped in his big boy pants.

[Jason Moore]

Look, fantasy football has some pain, and.

[Andy Holloway]

No pain, no gain.

[Jason Moore]

Isn't that right, Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

That is. That is right.

[Jason Moore]

I. I want to talk about Big Ben. I want to talk about Sammy Biscuit. Sam Bradford, maybe the most disappointing performance of the week. Dak Prescott, he's all.

[Mike Wright]

He's pretty close.

[Jason Moore]

And Jimmy. And Jimmy. Ugly.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I like it.

[Jason Moore]

At least in week one. No, Jimmy Garoppolo had a couple plays that like the throw to Pettis, the escaping from the pocket, the touchdown pass to Pettis. You see that play, and I've seen one player do it. It was like Aaron Rodgers. That was an Aaron Rodgers play. But then you saw 15 for 33 for 261 and three pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You saw two interceptions that were just his inaccuracy, which, you know, that's the opposite of what we've heard. You know, he's so accurate. There were two passes that just got away from him that that's the reason they were picked off. Granted, this was against the Minnesota Vikings, a phenomenal defense. You have to take it with a grain of salt. Nobody was here recommending to start Garoppolo in this matchup. I'm still fine with him. Who I'm not fine with is Sam Bradford. He looked terrible.

[Mike Wright]

He looked terrible. He looked terrified.

[Andy Holloway]

Terrified.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, scared.

[Jason Moore]

Bradford, there is no silver lining here.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no, no, there's not.

[Andy Holloway]

And what you saw.

[Jason Moore]

And I'm sorry, because I thought it would be different what you saw with.

[Andy Holloway]

The garbage from both Sam Bradford and Dak Prescott. The putrid offenses of those two teams. Look, David Johnson, Ezekiel Elliott, they got it done. And this was why they weren't in that one. Two with Lev Bell and Gurley pre draft season was because you worried about the offenses. Will the offenses be good enough to really propel them to fantasy victory? The players are good enough, but you have to start worrying about their offenses. I mean, they still belong right there at that 3, 4 spot.

[Jason Moore]

Offensive offenses, yes. Not pleasurable to the eye.

[Mike Wright]

What was DEZ Bryant thinking when he was watching the Cowboys game?

[Jason Moore]

He was cackling and figuring out his next tweet. Did you see his reply?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Somebody said, hey, you need to call Jerry Jones on Monday and get back in there.

[Mike Wright]

He said, now I'm good.

[Jason Moore]

Said, no thanks. He goes, I'd rather. He literally said, I'd rather go to New England and get one on one coverage on the outside. And then he said, washington's nice, too.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, get body.

[Jason Moore]

Big Ben. Like I said, I'm not actually that concerned about this game.

[Mike Wright]

Nor am I.

[Jason Moore]

The weather conditions were terrible. He still three through for over 300 yards. You know, he made some mistakes, but this is Big Ben and it's road Big Ben. And next week he gets to take on Kansas City. I think it's going to be at home. He's going to be a top five quarterback next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I love him.

[Mike Wright]

He's no Mad Max.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, guys. Nathan Peterman's not too good. Not very good.

[Andy Holloway]

The Mayan sacrifice.

[Jason Moore]

Look, Jason, he was absolutely a Mayan sacrifice. Mike was right.

[Mike Wright]

Here's the thing, though, that I want.

[Jason Moore]

To point out an object of wrath.

[Mike Wright]

Buffalo Bills fans. I'm sorry that I have to remind you of this. Your head coach, during a playoff run last year, thought it was a good idea to bench Tyron Taylor for Nathan Peterman.

[Jason Moore]

That's. That's a. What do they say? Sometimes you get fired with cause, sometimes you get fired without cause. That's cause.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, what I get starting him in Week 1 against the Baltimore Ravens because you know that Josh Allen's just not ready. And then. But, but to put you. You remedied your mistake. You put Allen in, get him some reps in the second half of the game and then you come out after. It's too early. It's too early to know who the quarterback will be. Maybe we'll put Nathan Peterman back out there. What are you doing to your fan base? Look at this.

[Andy Holloway]

Look at the schedule, Mike. They need more sacrifices.

[Jason Moore]

Chargers yeah, the Chargers, Vikings, Packers. If there's a way, I don't know how. I don't do a lot of sports betting or anything like that. If there's a way to bet on them losing the next three games.

[Mike Wright]

A parlay.

[Jason Moore]

A three game Buffalo Bill lost.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, Buffalo.

[Jason Moore]

It was a massacre. All right, speaking of some poopers, let's go to running backs. Shady McCoy, Kareem Hunt, Derek Henry, Jamal Williams, Tariq Cohen. The pair of 49er running backs, Morrison Breida, and then Gilly. Gilly Gumdrops. Mike Gillisle.

[Andy Holloway]

He.

[Mike Wright]

Did he have big boy pants?

[Jason Moore]

He did not.

[Mike Wright]

I just.

[Jason Moore]

He's just in here because I think Brooks wanted to troll Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a good story. And if you, if you were listening here, I was, you know, saying Gilly is a sneaky star.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

This is why. And this is, this is a genuine psa. Not, not self promotion. Even though it is. You need to follow Mike, myself and Andy on our personal accounts, on Twitter at the ff hit ffhipman, at Andy Holloway and at Jason ffl. Because after we're done recording on Friday, things happen Friday night, Saturday and Sunday morning that completely change what might have been said. I tweeted out on Saturday the fact that Jonathan Williams was reactivated from practice squad and brought back in in the New Orleans backfield. Just said, now there's murkiness. You don't know who's going to get the ball. So, I mean, I took him out of all of my lineups. I hope you did too. But it was certainly wrong and his fumble did not.

[Jason Moore]

It is true. If you follow us on Twitter, it's the closest thing to getting one of those like ear monitoring pieces in your ear heading into the week. And just to give you information, that's.

[Mike Wright]

Where they put them.

[Jason Moore]

Did I say ear monitoring pieces in your ear?

[Andy Holloway]

You did. Okay, well, you don't want an ear monitoring piece anywhere else.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to throw out my real action.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Who are you actually concerned about here?

[Mike Wright]

LaShawn McCoy just because of the offense, but I'm not concerned in terms of volume. He's. He's going to give volume. I'm not worried about Hunt. Derek Henry is very concerning at this point.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely, Very, very concerning.

[Andy Holloway]

He had a touchdown run that was called back on a finish.

[Jason Moore]

He's always a big play potential guy.

[Mike Wright]

But here's the problem. And they started out, they went to Henry at the beginning of what, the longest game of all time because of.

[Jason Moore]

All the seven hours.

[Andy Holloway]

And then they got down.

[Mike Wright]

But but here's the thing. Derrick Henry got completely game scripted, got removed because they could not run on the Miami Dolphins. Next up, the Houston Texans. After that, the Jacksonville Jaguars. After that, the Philadelphia Eagles. That's why there is great concern for Derrick Henry after week one. They've already said if, if Henry doesn't get it going or going not just to Dion Lewis, they're going almost exclusively to Dion Lewis. That's where, that's where the problem lies with Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean that, that was the issue we talked about preseason was that he's not the past catching back. I'd rather have Dion Lewis. I am all on board on that, but I'm not too worried about about Henry. He was the clear back in the beginning. And if they're not down, I mean if Marcus Mariota is gone. Efficiency though, if Marcus Mariota is gone, then I'm extremely worried about Derek Henry because Blaine Gabbard is just going to be there losing games, being in bad game scripts and then Derek Henry will.

[Jason Moore]

Be irrelevant in this game. Dion Lewis out touched Henry 21 to 11. He's also a much better football player. Oh, he's just a better football player.

[Mike Wright]

The San Francisco backs there, they bout.

[Jason Moore]

Split touches and they were both okay against Minnesota. I mean it wasn't that bad.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not going to bail on them yet.

[Jason Moore]

Next week against Detroit. Initial thoughts on Morris vs. Breida I.

[Andy Holloway]

Would rather have is same exact situation. I'd rather have Breida because I believe that he will be more involved in the passing game than Alf.

[Jason Moore]

Do not worry about Jamal Williams. I'm going to throw that out there right now, at least for next week because, well, next week's Minnesota. So maybe, maybe you, maybe you pause. But from a workload standpoint, Jamal Williams got eight Lions and from a pass.

[Andy Holloway]

Protection standpoint, he will be in the game always. He is a great pass protector. And Aaron Rodgers has a knee problem. He going. I mean that's.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I didn't see a lot of Ty Mongory, Hogan, Benjamin, Garcon, Watkins, Crowder, Hearns and Gallup. The poopers at the wide receiver position. The one that. Look, I'm concerned about all these guys, right? The one I'm least concerned about is Hogan. Obviously I brought him up as a trade target and then I'm not as concerned as I probably should be about Kelvin Benjamin. He had seven targets from Nathan Peterman. Things will be better for Benjamin in the future. He played one of the better defenses in the league in Baltimore. He's still the number one on a bad offense. I get it. He's not good, but he's in the wide receiver three range for me still. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Do you throw him? Is he a cut, you know, to go get a.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Like, would you rather have. I'm sure you'd rather have Randall Cobb. I'm sure you'd rather have Kenny Stills than Kelvin Benjamin.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Emmanuel Sanders. All those guys you'd rather have. I agree with your take, Andy, that Calvin Benjamin is still the number one on a bad team and he'll be fine and he should be rostered. But if you need to make a cut because the next two weeks are difficult defenses on paper. That's why I worry a little bit about Kelvin.

[Jason Moore]

Tight end poopers.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Travis Kelsey, Jimmy Graham, trey doo doo. One for 15 on six targets. I like the six targets.

[Andy Holloway]

That part is good. The part that's not good is who's throwing them the ball.

[Jason Moore]

Kelsey has six targets to call it how it is.

[Andy Holloway]

Mitchell Trubisky is not a good quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I don't agree with that at all. I do not agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

You liked him in the scripted part. You liked him when he came out and had the game scripted. But the problem is every single game is going to have to have a second half.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I know. I get it. And he's going to have to grow and learn how to do that. But he made throws in this game that I thought were professional NFL throws. And he's with an offensive mind now and I thought he looked okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm hopeful. I got my fingers crossed. I want it. I'm not rooting against. Are you.

[Jason Moore]

So to be a good quarterback, you have to be able to on the road against Aaron Rodgers on the last drive of the game. I mean, he drove me down the field.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not playing against Aaron Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

It wasn't just from a mindset standpoint of the game.

[Mike Wright]

It was a lot of. I can say for sure. At least the fourth quarter, he. He got very, very skittish and he just. He started to try and run everything. Yeah. Which is not going to work.

[Andy Holloway]

No. He pulls his eyes down immediately.

[Mike Wright]

So, Travis Kelsey, where's your concern level?

[Jason Moore]

Almost zero.

[Andy Holloway]

Mine would.

[Jason Moore]

Six targets. They didn't have to throw the ball a lot. What, 27 attempts. I'm not that worried about Travis Kelsey. I'm not. I've seen him in the preseason. I think he'll be fine.

[Andy Holloway]

I've seen, you know, some stats talking about how Mahomes has Never played with the tight end and worries there and my, my worry level is actually 0%. I have no worries whatsoever about Travis Kelsey.

[Mike Wright]

Mine's. Mine's warming.

[Jason Moore]

Is it?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

If you have them, trade them to me.

[Jason Moore]

Jimmy Graham did nothing. Two for eight on four targets.

[Mike Wright]

You know what my concern level with Graham is?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my concern level with Graham is exactly where it was pre draft because.

[Mike Wright]

I had no expectations. Ha ha.

[Andy Holloway]

He is going week one victory lap. I mean look, a week one victory left way too early. Hobbled Aaron Rodgers that couldn't extend the play and maybe find Jimmy Graham in those plays. But the truth is I think Jimmy Graham is going to be what Mike and I thought, which is a touchdown only guy Boomer Bus touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

So wait, just to be clear, you think what you thought.

[Andy Holloway]

That is right.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, I think Ricky Seals Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, very disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

Drop.

[Mike Wright]

Drop.

[Jason Moore]

Dropped a touchdown. 3 for 19 on six targets.

[Andy Holloway]

They were actually.

[Jason Moore]

Sam Bradford was terrible. The thing is the silver lining here is Ricky Seals Jones was running routes all game long and he was on the field for 49 of 53 snaps. I would not jet. I would jettison him for George Kittle. I would consider jettisoning him for, you know, some other big name tight end. But he's still.

[Mike Wright]

What about uncle whatever his face is.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'd keep Ricky Seals Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, me too. It was a terrible game, but it was a terrible game for all these guys that we're talking about. And the reality was he was on the field, he was running routes, he was getting targets and he dropped a touchdown. He gets that touchdown and you're going oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

You're not worrying about it.

[Andy Holloway]

It's funny. He gets that touchdown and he's a top tight end. Kyle Rudolph, right, had one catch. He was a top tight end this week. He was like the number four tight end or something.

[Jason Moore]

So I don't freak out about him. Are you freaking out then, Mike? I mean you, you got Jason, you just threw the bad quarterback take on Mitchell Trubisky. So where's your Trey Boo Boo love? I mean where's your week one Trey Boo Boo conclusion?

[Andy Holloway]

Trey Boo Boo had the weirdest game to be part of imaginable, right? You had a first half where you are up 20 to nothing. Were not needed because your defense was great. They start running the ball and trying to run the clock out at that point. Look, I mean I turned the game on five minutes late. Trey Burton already had a catch. He was involved. He got six targets. But then the second half, what you said Mike was just true. Mitchell Trubisky got scared in that pocket. I think that game appeared a little bit too big for him. I'm not that worried about Trey Burton. He got six targets. He was lined up the way that we wanted him to get lined up. Solo, isolation, all the time, running routes. He had a bad game. I'm worried about the quarterback play, but I'm like, I'm not cutting Trey Burton.

[Mike Wright]

To be fair, he was brought in to be the Travis Kelce for the Chicago Bears and he was better than Travis Kelsey.

[Andy Holloway]

That is true.

[Jason Moore]

They both caught one pass.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

One of them had 15 yards on six targets. All right, more to come. Tomorrow on this show, we have waiver wire. We'll talk through a ton of these players and you can find us on Twitter @ the FF Ballers.

[Mike Wright]

If you're going to play some daily, check out draft.comballers. we'll see you tomorrow.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye. Good luck tonight.

[Andy Holloway]

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