
Week 10 Matchups + Double Shame, Chase BOOM! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/8
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Andy Holloway
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Mike Wright
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Oh, welcome in.
Mike Wright
That was. That was way too much extra joy.
Jason Moore
Oh, I feel about 53.9 points worth of extra joy this fine a morning.
Andy Holloway
I mean, you're over there acting like you had both Burrow and Chase. No.
Jason Moore
Which I didn't. I didn't. I only had Chase.
Mike Wright
I'm out of here. You guys suck. Over here in our main Dynasty league, Mike's rocking the stack of Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and over in league of record, former champ Andy Holloway was defending. Champ was gifted Jamar Chase in a trade that just showed up in his inbox for basically Amari Cooper and Garbage. And so, yeah, it's a good day to be you guys. It's a bad day to sit between you.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And I can tell you right now, as I slide over to Deucers Alley, there's a man in a black hat in the shadows. Just miserable. Just miserable over there. Am I right, Al?
Mike Wright
Yep. I mean, fortunately, I didn't have to play against either Burrow or Chase.
Jason Moore
I did do that check that silver lining. I did that check in my other leagues this morning. Yeah, the very scary click into each league to see if I played Burrow, Chase or Lamar.
Mike Wright
That's what I mean, I literally. I tweeted this out, but it was. It wasn't a joke. I was afraid to open the sleeper app and scroll through my teams because I wasn't sure which my matchups. Yeah, exactly. I was like, oh, gosh, did I. Because I don't have Jamar Chase. I have him in our. In our family league, which, you know, is probably our. I mean, we kind of don't care about that. But all the other leagues that I'm in, I. Jeremy just came on set and put Jamar Chase down.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Mike Wright
But I don't have him anywhere, so I knew there's a good chance I'm playing against him somewhere. Happy to report your weeks aren't over. I can still play this.
Jason Moore
Look, I know not everybody's happy because a lot of you played against them, and we got everything we wanted on Thursday Night Football. 35, 34. Ravens over the Bengals face masks. They can't call them in the last 30 seconds of a game.
Mike Wright
You know, I saw someone. I saw someone tweet this out, and it's. It's legitimate. I wonder, you know, the going for two to win the game at the end, do you factor in that? They're, like, calling those plays like a Hail Mary, you know, like, they should not be. They shouldn't. It's a. That is a play where you shouldn't just be able to go, like, hulk, smash everybody on the play. But that's kind of what happened. And I also, at the same time, I do understand that, like, you don't want the refs to be the reason for the last play. So, you know, swallow close call. Whistles there. But I don't know how close call.
Jason Moore
No, you can't. You can't just. If you start the play with any of those mindsets, I'm going to let things go or I'm going to call it too tight. You've already lost. Like, you. You need to call the play. The play. You need to get rid of the context and just call it. And now we've seen not going for two, you lost. Going for two, you lost. Like you. We just saw this with Tampa on Monday Night Football, right? Like, condemned for not going. Yeah, I don't blame him for not going.
Andy Holloway
Oh, I don't condemn them at all.
Jason Moore
I think it was a penalty. I think it was a bad call. I also think that one play doesn't define the whole game, and we. We just have to live with what it was. Maybe stop, you know, the Baltimore Ravens from scoring 28 in the second half.
Mike Wright
There was a holding penalty called, you know, on Jamar Chase in the game in the end zone. That was.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah, that was not very.
Mike Wright
That wasn't real. So, you know they're going to get it wrong.
Andy Holloway
Going for two was the. That was the right call. I mean, it's like think of the conversion rate of a two point conversion. You know, it's like it's right around 50%. And then if you go into overtime in a tie, flipping a coin about 50% and if you lose that, like whoever got the ball was winning the game because defenses could. The defense was done.
Jason Moore
Definitely a crazy night. I hate losing a game, not throwing it to my best player. I think that was part of my criticism of the play. I know that you're going to get a lot of coverage on Jamar Chase, but I really hate losing, throwing it to a tight end. Like the catch percentage of targeting him there, I just don't know. But Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, amazing.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Derek Henry got into the end zone. Mostly stifled on the ground, but got into the end zone. I think a big storyline is Chase Brown. However, I do think this was more a product of the defense that the Baltimore Ravens chose to play in this game. They, they ridiculously, they. They simultaneously played a defense exclusively built to stop Jamar Chase and failed at that and gave up the underneath all game long. Nine receptions for Chase Brown. So if you had Chase in your name, you put up a big night.
Andy Holloway
It was a very good game for him.
Jason Moore
And then on the other side, best game of the year for Mark Andrews. Six for 68 and a touchdown. Looked like vintage Andrews. And it's not a surprise you needed to do it when you're in a game that's got 69 points.
Mike Wright
Isaiah likely. Yeah, exactly. I feel like he should really just, you know, probably go on ir, rest that hamstring.
Andy Holloway
Likely.
Mike Wright
Likely. Yeah. Likely. Should just really take the rest, save yourself for the playoffs. You know what I mean? Yeah. You're playoff bound. Your super bowl contender.
Andy Holloway
Why don't you let the old guy get the wear and tear?
Mike Wright
Exactly. Come back in Week 18 for a little bit of, you know, reps before the playoffs. But, you know, just get healthy. Likely.
Jason Moore
And just two targets for Deontay Johnson in this game. Not very involved yet for those monitoring that. And I just. Look, this is not a sponsor comment at all. People thought it was. I just want to say this because maybe it will be aspirational for other networks.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah, I saw your tweet.
Jason Moore
Dear goodness, The NFL looks good on prime. It is like you bought an upgraded graphics card for the NFL. Every week that I turn it on.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
I cannot believe how crystal clear and amazing the production is. And I hope we move our way up on the other networks.
Mike Wright
I think it's objectively superior. The other game modes as well, or whatever they call them, the streams.
Andy Holloway
Their version of the all 22 is.
Mike Wright
Like x ray or X ray. I mean, they just have the technology where it needs to be, which we do know this.
Jason Moore
Like we've sat down with them before in years past just talking to them about the NFL and we know how much effort they put into it. When you turn the TV on in this day and age and you can be like, oh my gosh, those jerseys, I don't know.
Andy Holloway
Oh, my goodness, those Ravens jerseys.
Jason Moore
It was just crystal clear. I don't know. They got some kind of special technology. Can we get those cameras? Can we get them in the studio?
Andy Holloway
I think it sells system. Just the infrastructure for the. For the stream.
Jason Moore
I guess we wouldn't want those cameras in this studio because we.
Mike Wright
Look, I want to. I want a Gaussian blur.
Andy Holloway
We need that soap opera filter over here. Can we blur this a bit?
Jason Moore
We do better with the blur.
Andy Holloway
So the game was not great for everybody. Sticky Gasicki was icky at 4 for 30. The right answer was Tanner Hudson at the tight end position. It was 6 for 42 in a score and somehow Zay Flowers was 4 for 34. And like this was the old school Zay Flowers. I'm not. I'm not worried about it at all, but just it was frustrating of. Zay Flowers is so good. Like he, like his talent level to me is absolutely off the charts to the point of his plays are so impactful that in my head I'm like, oh, wow, Zay Flowers is having a great game. And then you get into the fourth quarter, you look at the numbers, you go, oh, no, he is not.
Mike Wright
Well, a lot of the passing yardage that came late when they were going back and forth, taking leads, getting them back, you know, There was an 84 yard touchdown to Tylen Wallace, whoever that is. And it was, you know, that. That takes a drive away from Zay Flowers. Andrews was more involved, but yeah, I don't think you go away from him.
Andy Holloway
No, no, no, no.
Mike Wright
You just are sad. I mean, I was hungry for more. Now I'm starving for more. Zay Flowers.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it was a little bit like the situation with Chase last week with Burrow. He threw five touchdowns none to Chase this week. Four touchdowns for Lamar, none to Zay Flowers.
Mike Wright
And bet on good players.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they'll work out in the end. I'm not complaining about Chase no more. Mike has been the experienced Chase manager in all the years of Chase's career. I play seven, eight leagues a year. I have never had Jamar Chase on my team. And so I added him a couple weeks ago. Just crafted a beautiful trade. The best trade. No, I did the best.
Andy Holloway
It was a really good trade for.
Jason Moore
Him and I hadn't gotten this game yet, Mike and.
Mike Wright
Oh, it's sweet.
Andy Holloway
It is amazing.
Mike Wright
And the.
Jason Moore
Ooh, so good.
Andy Holloway
This is the first time that I can remember that, like, I won on a Thursday. I have lost so many times on Thursday night and it is the worst feeling. Brooks, do you. How do you feel? How you feel, Brooks? Yeah. All right.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's even.
Andy Holloway
Chime in.
Mike Wright
I saw Nathan Yankee tweet out the complete list of multiple 260 yard receiving games in NFL history is Jamar Chase. That's the only player who's ever done quite good.
Jason Moore
I bet. I was just so disappointed. His third touchdown wasn't over 40 yards for the bonus. What a. What a bummer. It's Friday.
Mike Wright
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Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
Is this a point break?
Mike Wright
I do not understand.
Andy Holloway
Josh is.
Mike Wright
Josh is old enough. Yes.
Andy Holloway
It seems like. I don't know what the real line is, but I mean, Johnny Utah is all I can think of here.
Jason Moore
Well, congratulations. Thanks for supporting the show. Let's jump into the news.
Mike Wright
News and notes from around the league presented by USAA Insurance.
Jason Moore
I do.
Andy Holloway
No, no, I had to confirm it. There is a Utah. Get me two.
Jason Moore
Oh, so it's a Point Break reference.
Andy Holloway
It is.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Andy Holloway
I like it.
Jason Moore
Is it Is Brooks actually not on a mic where he can be recorded or was he just dead silent out of. Because he's dead.
Andy Holloway
It's both.
Mike Wright
He could be recorded.
Andy Holloway
He's just on like his laptop microphone.
Mike Wright
He sounds.
Andy Holloway
Audio would be terrible.
Jason Moore
Identical to Jim Lovell from Apollo 13 when he was calling Houston.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
You know what I mean. Back in the 60s. How you doing, Brooks? All right.
Mike Wright
There he is.
Jason Moore
People do want to know that Brooks is alive and well. I like, well, he was. Here lies Brooks, but no Brooks. You'd be happy to know people have been asking about you. They want to know, you know, you're not here in studio with us. And they want to know you're doing well and you're still with us. And you are doing. You're still with us.
Mike Wright
Right.
Jason Moore
I'm here not doing well. Okay.
Mike Wright
There you go.
Jason Moore
Well, you know, you do have a 15 and 3 team in our dynasty.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
So congrats.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah, you will be getting a four next to that three this week at least.
Jason Moore
Okay, let's go ahead and blitz through this news so we can get back into the matchups. Kyle Shanahan said he expects McCaffrey to play technically limited on Thursday, as was Juwan Jennings and Debo Samuel.
Andy Holloway
The for what it is worth, not that you anyone is benching Christian McCaffrey, I've got him. I'm overexposed to McCaffrey, but he's going in everywhere. But we did have. So, Matt, I don't. I apologize. I don't. I don't know if it's Barrows or Borrows, but he's a writer for the athletic, covers the 49ers, and he did like a mailbag. And his expectation of work was. He thinks about. He thinks McCaffrey will be about a sweet 55% of the work and Mason.
Mike Wright
Will take about 4 into that. I say, I don't believe you.
Jason Moore
Oh, I do. I've been so firmly on that side.
Mike Wright
Was he also part of the beat reporters that said he's fine? Because I'm not trusting anybody in San Francisco. That's my point. I just don't.
Jason Moore
If I was San Francisco, that would be the ratio I would use, but I'll put it that way.
Andy Holloway
But again, if you have McCaffrey, fire him up.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
So Amari Cooper, Ltd. Keon Coleman has been ruled out. Maybe Amari Cooper can make an impact. I don't know. Probably won't put up chase numbers. Drake, London, Kyle Pitts, Ltd. On Thursday. Monitor both of those.
Mike Wright
Those are looking a little bit spicier and more doubtful to me. You know, early in the week there was some positivity and it's gotten a little bit worse. I've seen dicier. Yeah, a little dice here.
Jason Moore
Michael Pittman remains sidelined on Thursday. I think he's out of lineups for us. Regardless.
Andy Holloway
This one is. Well, it's not a regardless because if with Flacco in Michael Pittman is someone, a healthy Michael Pittman, someone I would like to play. But the way that he has been working for his. What are you making that face for?
Mike Wright
I don't know that he's just saying.
Jason Moore
That maybe you stay away from the potential accidental pain.
Mike Wright
No, I'm saying even if he's healthy, I mean the last couple games that he's.
Andy Holloway
I mean the last game with Joe Flacco was terrible. The three before that he was over double digit points.
Mike Wright
I don't believe that that is true. He looking at his game log, he had three games in a row that were over double digit.
Andy Holloway
Those were all. And those were.
Mike Wright
But this is also a poor matchup. You know, their top five Buffalo against wide receivers. So I'm just saying even if he's healthy, I would rather go somewhere else.
Andy Holloway
But my point was going to be this has been hit the cadence for Pittman has been don't practice Wednesday, practice on Thursday. So this is concerning that he'll even be out there.
Jason Moore
We have news that Baker Mayfield is going to play. Jalen McMillan, Sterling Shepard, they practice today. I think I thought maybe I'm getting conflicting.
Mike Wright
No, no. So here's. Here's what happened.
Andy Holloway
Practice.
Jason Moore
No, he did.
Mike Wright
He did not. So I went to their official. What happened was yesterday mid show we were wondering if he was practicing and we had reporters taking photographs. He was out there at practice. So he was in pads, he had his helmet in his hand. So he was there. But on the official report this week from the team, he was listed as a full DNP.
Jason Moore
But then he practiced today. McMillan, Shepard, Whitehead, Gaines, all practice today. Today's Friday. Yes.
Mike Wright
So Thursday and Wednesday was full dnp.
Jason Moore
The Evans likely to be ruled out today. All I'm saying is that like if they're out there, there's an opportunity with how Baker's throwing the football, you know, for a spot start. Darius Slayton ruled out. Jonathan Brooks questionable. We expect Jonathan Brooks to make his debut. Mike, would you like to publicly apologized to London, England today?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm so sorry. London, we. It's funny in the morning I even corrected someone before the show. You did like. No, it's not in London, it's in Germany. And then, I don't know, I told London to eat it.
Mike Wright
Which actually.
Andy Holloway
No, no, I. No, I stand by that just in general. I stand by that in general of England.
Jason Moore
It's the worst apology I've ever heard.
Andy Holloway
Well, I realized I don't have to apologize to England. Ever.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
Ever.
Mike Wright
Oh, okay.
Jason Moore
Really?
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
You tea drinkers.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Andy Holloway
Whoa, whoa. But now Germany.
Jason Moore
Eat it.
Mike Wright
You got to eat it. Eat it.
Andy Holloway
I'm sorry.
Jason Moore
And by eat it, we do mean watch the Carolina panthers play football 100% and pay for it. We saw AJ Brown move to a full practice on Thursday. That's big news.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Devontae Smith limited on Thursday with a hamstring. Is this the first you've heard of that?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I had not last week. He missed all practice for personal reasons. The hamstring was a newer issue that popped up, so it's a little concerning. But he was still practicing. A.J. brown practicing in full was really surprising. I had a full expectation. He misses all this, I think is pretty good news, obviously, for Jalen Hertz.
Jason Moore
Well, Dallas Goddard's practicing in full. Tony Pollard, who did not practice on Thursday, this week or last week. He didn't even practice on Friday last week and then played on Sunday. We're monitoring that. And Jason Nico Collins remains sidelined on Thursday.
Mike Wright
It's all part of the plan. They want to make sure Special Agent Oso over here, they need him to be healthy. And so let's just not run him until Sunday is my hope. I mean, honestly, today is going to be everything. I can't imagine he plays in the game. If he's a DNP on Friday. If he does play in the game and he doesn't practice all week, he will be in my lineup.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, but it's Sunday night.
Mike Wright
And I think we'll know before Sunday morning.
Andy Holloway
You will.
Jason Moore
Listen. You have kill me. That's what we were waiting for. Here's your. Here's your game plan.
Andy Holloway
So hard.
Mike Wright
Fine.
Jason Moore
DeMarcus Robinson should be your backup. If you want to. If you want to ride dirty, that's a good plan. If you want to ride dirty on Sunday night, get DeMarcus Robinson for the Monday night game for the Rams. Who's been playing good football in a game that could be a back and forth affair. That would be my emergency play.
Andy Holloway
You need to have a plan if you're trying to get.
Jason Moore
Unless we get news today. Maybe we get news today that he's officially out and you don't have to think about it.
Mike Wright
Yeah. What if you don't have a DeMarcus Robinson available?
Jason Moore
Oh, you look.
Mike Wright
Another pivot option. Correct.
Jason Moore
Well, let's think about that game. Tank Dell probably not gonna be able to get him.
Mike Wright
I've got Jalen Waddle, so he'll be my.
Jason Moore
Yeah, there you go.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Jason Moore
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Jason Moore
I had no clue there was so much emotion in fantasy football until today. You know what I mean?
Mike Wright
I believe. Is it today, is it Friday that they've got to be active? No, I know, but they've got to be activated from the IR in order to play. So I think we've got a couple more hours to find out if Nico is going to play or not. Whoever's out there vet that for me. But I think we will know whether he's activated off the IR and they're not going to activate him off the IR to not have him play this week.
Jason Moore
That makes sense. Hopefully you get that news today.
Mike Wright
I have to. It's time for Fantasy Forecast presented by DraftKings Sportsbook.
Jason Moore
Alrighty. The Giants Panthers in Germany. We covered it yesterday. The Patriots, Bills, Bills, Colts. Oh sorry, Patriots, Bears, Bills, Colts, Broncos, Chiefs, Falcons, Saints, 49ers, Buccaneers. We covered all those games on yesterday's show. So if you want those breakdowns, just click on Yesterday's episode. You can go through those today. We're going to start with the Steelers at 6 and 2 and the 7 and 2 Washington Commanders. Both teams have the rarity of tremendous success with a defensive minded head coach. That is not been a common theme in recent years. DraftKings sports book Washington - 3 At home the over unders 45 this is a fun one.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it really is. You've got two good defenses or at least the Steelers are a good defense. And that's coming up against Jaden Daniels and the amazing unstoppable offense so far. Of the commanders, I don't know how much you're going to be able to rely. Like the Steelers get to play Lamar Jackson twice a year. 40 years. I think of all the defenses that Jaden Daniels is going to play against, this is one that is a little bit more prepared for it, if that makes sense.
Andy Holloway
I can see what you're saying. Stylistically, yeah, it's hard to prepare.
Mike Wright
There's, there's. Until Jaden Daniels, there's no one like Lamar. Like even, even great mobile rushing quarterbacks, Jalen Hurst, Josh Allen, they're just not like Lamar in how he runs, when he runs. But I feel a lot of similarities with Jaden Daniels in when they choose to run and how they run. So I do think, I do think the experience here helps.
Jason Moore
That's an interesting little storyline. What else is interesting is the Steelers defense is third in the NFL and points given up. The Commanders are third in the NFL on points scored per game. So you have a really good offense and a talented defense. The commander's defense has been pretty good over the last six weeks at stopping opposing players from scoring fantasy points. Second against quarterbacks, seconds second against wide receivers.
Mike Wright
They've become a little bit more of a run funnel, difficult to throw on, which is harder.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, Marshawn Latimore being a part of this offense now, our defense, they're just going to continue to improve and that's where you have an effective offense. Like Cliff Kingsbury is the head coach of the offense. Like Dan Quinn doesn't touch that. And Dan Quinn's a defensive mind and head coach that's had so much success in Dallas in recent years. I mean, I don't know, has that been a storyline? His departure from Dallas and their deterioration as a defense. I mean, this should be a fun game. Russell Wilson gets a new weapon in Mike Williams. I don't know if he's going to be active this week, but he will be a part of future Game plans for this offense. Najee Harris has been a top 13 running back in three straight weeks and.
Mike Wright
I expect it to Continue. He's averaging 20 opportunities a game. What I just said, they're turning into a run funnel. You're still able to run on them. They're just a middle of the pack defense against the run. So that will be, I think, a big game plan for the Steelers.
Jason Moore
The Steelers defense on the year schedule adjusted six against wide receivers. They've been very good the last six weeks and fantasy points allowed though it slowed down Terry McLaurin sitting at wide receiver six on the year. DK has the his receiving line at 58 and a half yards.
Mike Wright
Feels a little low for what you want from someone who's the wide receiver. Six on the season. I think it's just indicative of that. This is not an easy matchup for him.
Jason Moore
The over under in the game's 45. Brian Robinson has a limited practice on Wednesday. I think he'll be back out there.
Andy Holloway
He's a tough. I think he's like the hard start of this. If he goes.
Jason Moore
He's been so good.
Andy Holloway
He's been. Yes, he has scored a lot of touchdowns which, I mean that's a product of this offense.
Jason Moore
Are you saying you would or wouldn't play him? I feel like I would get him in the lineup. I would try.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I think I would. Yeah. Like just the way that it's trended with his injury, it's concerning.
Jason Moore
Jaylen Warren has yet to hit eight fantasy points. Are we keeping them on the sideline of our lineups until we get a good game?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think so. I mean he was a waiver pickup. That's like you can flex him but you're not getting a lot of points. He. He hasn't hit double digit fantasy points this season and this isn't like some incredible matchup where the, you know, you want him in a situation where you're playing a team that gives up pass catching to the running back because that's really his. Where he's going to eat in this offense.
Jason Moore
George Pickens. It's a tough matchup based on how the commander's defense has played over the last six weeks. I know you guys both like Pickens. Do you have hesitation here?
Andy Holloway
I hate the matchup, but it's a full go. Yeah, I mean he's been like, so we have what, two games with Russ where you know it. 5 for 111 a score against the Jets, 4 for 74 against the Giants. So it's the Matchup, you know, a month ago looked far juicier than it does today, but he's still a. Pickens is an every week play for me.
Jason Moore
Zach Ertz only had one reception last week. He would be an emergency if he needed that tight end. Minnesota is 6 and 2. They take on Jacksonville 2 and 7. One thing we didn't mention was any update to the Trevor Lawrence situation for Jacksonville. The DK sportsbook line in this game, by the way, Minnesota -7 on the road over unders 44.
Andy Holloway
It was -4.
Jason Moore
So Vegas.
Andy Holloway
So Mac Jones confirms.
Jason Moore
Mac Jones is going to be playing football.
Andy Holloway
Jones is worth negative three points.
Jason Moore
That's a lot.
Mike Wright
Yeah. 1 hour ago Doug Peterson said it's trending for Trevor Lawrence not to play Sunday versus the Vikings.
Jason Moore
Jacksonville is I think statistically one of the best matchups you can have in fantasy for every position for all of them.
Mike Wright
You adjust for schedule. They're 29th against tight ends and that is their best score. I mean they're 31st against wide receivers and running backs and dead last against quarterback. So whoever you want to start on the Minnesota Vikings side of the ball, you can, I think if you want to take a shot. You know, Jordan Addison is one of those guys, it's on your bench. You're not sure if you could play him. Sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. Okay, this is a matchup where he could get it done. I do think that the running game is especially because Trevor Lawrence isn't expected to play. And I don't think that Mac Jones is going to be able to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings.
Andy Holloway
Whoa, hey.
Mike Wright
I'm just saying if he is unable to keep up with the Minnesota Vikings defense, then the Vikings get out to a lead and it becomes the Aaron Jones show. So Justin Jefferson, you're going to start him. But I think that Aaron Jones is just such a great play this week.
Jason Moore
Yep, he is. He's set up for success. Jefferson Jones, Darnold Hawkinson your start of the week at tight end. I'm all about it. And Addison is a flex play on the other side. Fear and trembling. Not only do you you have players that I think independent of injury situations, you would be scared out of your mind to play with Mac Jones. And now you have Brian Thomas Jr. Still dealing with an injury. His rest of season outlook took a bit of a hit with this Lawrence news. With the injury in recent weeks, etn, Bigsby, even Ingram, who we know has that connection with Lawrence. Little unsettling not to have Lawrence behind center even For Ingram.
Andy Holloway
It would, it would really surprise me though if Mac Jones doesn't throw the ball to Evan Ingram a bajillion times.
Mike Wright
Yeah. EVAN INGRAM I'm 100% fine with, you know, that this could be the backup narrative where all of a sudden it becomes a Parker Washington game who's played more snaps with, you know, with the backup quarterback. But Brian Thomas Jr. Is not a must bench to me. This is a matchup where you know.
Andy Holloway
They'Re probably still playing.
Mike Wright
They're going to need to throw him. But he's in one of those considerations now where you look at your bench and you say I've got another good option or I don't. And did you say they're going to.
Jason Moore
Throw to him or throw him.
Mike Wright
They're going to like.
Jason Moore
Are they going to literally.
Mike Wright
I think they, I think they're going to throw near him.
Jason Moore
Oh, okay. Yeah. That's unfortunate.
Mike Wright
But I don't want to. I'm not doing any. You cannot make me start. Travis ET and Tank Bigsby I Dearness Johnson. The Minnesota Vikings are one of the best of the best at stopping running backs both in the passing game and the running game. You're going to be down. There's no world where I want to have a piece, you know, a shared committee piece of no fantasy points.
Jason Moore
And by the way, Papa Josh back in the building all episode long today.
Andy Holloway
Well, so far we'll see.
Mike Wright
I'm good.
Andy Holloway
We'll see.
Mike Wright
The empty chair for the Falcon is known and we're happy to report not on a toilet. Might be on a toilet but not because he's on a toilet.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he's out. He's out of office today we think for some sort of travel not possible.
Andy Holloway
Oh, he's blasting off.
Jason Moore
Tennessee 2 and 6 Los Angeles 5 and 3. DraftKings sportsbook line Los Angeles -7. This would be the Chargers. The over under is just 39 points.
Mike Wright
Doesn't give the Titans a lot of points.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that's. I mean we think will Levis will be back out there. We don't know if they'll go Mason Rudolph for another week. We've got an injured Tony Pollard and we have Calvin Ridley with a DK receiving line of. Look, if you're the last man okay standing you've got a shot. 31% target share since the week 5 buy for Calvin Ridley. That's what he's going to need.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Since Hopkins has left this team, it's, it's really made things nice for Ridley and the rest of season. I Think Ridley is a common, you know, must start type of player because you won't have consistency where every single week it's going to be great. But I do think the majority of his weeks will be very, very good. And in order to get those, you have to play him every week. So to me, he's just a starter.
Jason Moore
The Titans defense is doing the best it can do, but it's, it's not. It kind of wears down over the course of the game.
Andy Holloway
Now Dobbins, man, that this line, DK's rushing line, 64 and a half. He's averaging 19 opportunities a game.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I like him in this game because of the, of the fact that I think they'll be out and ahead for the majority of the game.
Mike Wright
Were you surprised how high it was?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, 64. I mean he's. That's basically like a 50, 50 shot of his box scores.
Mike Wright
And they're pretty good, pretty good defense. The Titans. The Titans have played good defense most of the year. It really comes down in part to their opponents. You know, when they played Buffalo and Detroit the last two of the last three weeks, they gave up 34 and 52 points. They break down eventually against these great defenses if it's not or great offenses if it's not a great offense.
Jason Moore
It reminds me of the Giants defense. Like we all recognize the Giants defense has a lot of talent, but you just can't hold up.
Mike Wright
So the question is because they can hold. You know, they held up just fine against New England last week. They only gave up 17 points. They've held people to 20 or fewer points plenty of times when it's an average to below average offense. The question to me in this matchup is are the Los Angeles Chargers an above average offense or not? They've got Justin Herbert. They're letting him throw the ball more. Quentin Johnson has gotten involved lad McConkey is, has been a great rookie wide receiver. But are they really a good offense or just. Or just average?
Andy Holloway
They're.
Jason Moore
I think they're all right, man.
Andy Holloway
23 or more points in three of the previous four games.
Jason Moore
They are currently 24th in the NFL. And points per game. That's not good.
Andy Holloway
Well, I mean they had like, when they have a stinker, it's a stinker, you know, 10 points against Pitt, 10.
Jason Moore
Points against the Chiefs, 23 point implied point total. What do you do with the wide receiver position? Obviously they're at home. They're favored. We like Dobbins enough, I guess, or DK does.
Andy Holloway
Oh, you don't?
Jason Moore
McConkie and Johnston.
Andy Holloway
I think they are both playable. If I have to pick, I'm still going to go with lad McConkey, but Quinn Johnston has it.
Jason Moore
You're on the McConkie side. Yeah, I'd be on the Johnson side.
Andy Holloway
I'll take the target share.
Mike Wright
Yeah, the targets should be there for Lad. Also Legerious need. I would guess he's more on Quentin Johnson than in the slot on Lad. I guess I don't know for sure his health, but assuming that he's there, that leads me more towards Lad.
Andy Holloway
But it's just. Yeah. Sneed missed practice on Thursday. Oh, good.
Mike Wright
I love when defensive great players miss. Like all the defensive players. I'm never rooting for them to play.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I might try to avoid these guys.
Andy Holloway
I don't think there are voids.
Jason Moore
I mean they're not consistent in a good matchup. And Tennessee is number one in the NFL against wide receivers in fantasy. Number one, huh? Yeah, number one.
Andy Holloway
Where are you seeing that?
Jason Moore
On our website, Mike. The fantasy footballers.com Tennessee is first against fantasy wide receivers on the season and fantasy points given up. If you look at schedule adjusted, they're third.
Andy Holloway
Okay, that's where.
Jason Moore
But if you look at actual fantasy points given up, statistically they are number one against wide receiver.
Andy Holloway
Last six weeks has not been as good and the. I don't know, the combination of things haven't been as good for the Titans. And with the evolving Chargers offense, I think they're both playable.
Jason Moore
Okay. Any other names here? Tony Pollard.
Andy Holloway
Pollard is. Will be. It'll be interesting to me of he hasn't practiced in which like this is what's been going on. He's not practicing. Then he goes out there and he's awesome. But at the same time, Taj Spears has not been available for the Tennessee Titans and Spears was a full practice on Thursday. So I wonder if they. Is it possible that they take a different approach because they have. Spears is a good player. I mean when you're. When your backup option is Julius Chestnut, you're like good for Christmas.
Mike Wright
You just made that up.
Jason Moore
Good for Christmas time. It's for you guys who are already.
Andy Holloway
In it when that's the option. Yeah, one's roasting on an open fire. Tony Pollard is out there doing work. I just, I have a little bit.
Jason Moore
Of concern but it's been a disappointing year for Spears. He did have 17 opportunities two weeks ago before the injury and yeah, it's a fair question.
Mike Wright
With Pollard's injury and the difficult matchup, the. The Chargers are top Five against running backs. I think that Pollard is. He's gone from someone that has been a must start to, you know, like I would rather have J.K. dobbins in the same game on the other side.
Jason Moore
What about Moster?
Mike Wright
I don't think I go down all the way to Moster. I would go Pollard but Najee Harris, Chuba Hubbard, those type of players.
Jason Moore
Ramon Dre.
Mike Wright
I've got them back to back of my rankings.
Jason Moore
Ramondre against who's ahead in the rankings?
Mike Wright
Eileen, Ramon Dre. I worry that they're going to give Pollard a little bit more rest if Spears is back. Obviously if Spears for some reason after practicing in full doesn't play this week, then that would completely shift towards Pollard.
Jason Moore
The Philadelphia Eagles are six and two, the Dallas Cowboys three and five. The games in Dallas and boys, listen to this one. Philly - seven and a half on the road over Unders 43 and a half. That gives Dallas just 18 points at home. The DAC experience is over for maybe the rest of the season for a while and Mike now understands that meat is a muscle. I've heard the last time that Dallas was a touchdown underdog at home was ironically when Cooper Rush was also a quarterback, their quarterback. And they actually won it. So we'll see what happens. Their defense this year is so bad that it hurts. It hurts unless you're playing against it for fantasy Hertz. I think Micah Barkley, Brown, Smith, Goddard.
Andy Holloway
I think Micah is back.
Mike Wright
Ooh, that's a big deal. So look that up for sure because you know the last time when you talk about Cooper Rush won the game. They won the game, but they only gave up 17 points. And this defense against the Eagles, you don't expect that. I mean right now the Eagles are implied for 25 and a half points. So Michael Parsons would make a big.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he is planning on being back there. I think they're expecting him back. So what are your new expectations for CD Lamb with the Cooper Rush offense for Rico Dowdle? Those are the only two players, I mean Jake Ferguson, I think who's been disappointing.
Andy Holloway
Ferguson has been disappointing on the season. The. It's. It's tough to look back at the numbers because Cooper Rush, when he had his run 4 and 1 as a starter for the Cowboys, that was two years ago. And it's like at that time CD Lamb.
Jason Moore
Was that the Schultz year?
Andy Holloway
It was. But yeah, Dalton Schultz, but it was like I think Schultz must have been injured because one of the games, Jake Ferguson actually did have a good game, but there was like it was a combination of him and Peyton Hendershot. Like Ferguson wasn't the guy yet. So I don't know if we have strong evidence of what Cooper Rush will do. CD Lamb, meanwhile, was getting a very strong target share and he was not. He was. He was great. CD Lamb at that time, he wasn't looked at as elite. You know, one of the top four, top three wide receivers in the league. So the injury to CD Lamb's shoulder is a big time bummer. But if he's out there, I feel confident enough that Cooper Rush will hyper target him.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he will get enough targets. I think he'll get enough yards as well. I would be skeptical of him entering the end zone often while he's got Cooper Rush over the next month. But I'm still. I don't believe that this is going to be a fall from grace like we saw with Tyree Kill, where he went from very, very relevant to completely on, you know, just not helping you and actively hurting you on fantasy matchups. I don't think you're getting that from CD Lamb unless CD Lamb's injury knocks him out of the game.
Andy Holloway
What about Rico? His DK rushing lines at 42 and a half. We know that the rushing is not where or is not everything for Rico Dowdle. He's been getting tons of targets.
Mike Wright
It's hard for me to say, but I like Rico Dowdle's opportunity. I like what we're seeing in Rico Dowdle. I think I'm going to recommend starting Rico Dowdle often over the rest of the season. This isn't going to be one of those weeks. The Philadelphia Eagles defense has really stepped it up. I mean, when you adjust for schedule over the course of the season, they're number three against running backs, they're top ten against quarterbacks, they're number one against tight ends. I mean, they're actually. They started slow and they kind of sucked last year and I think we need to quickly get on board with how good the Eagles defense has been.
Jason Moore
The encouraging part would be the six targets the last two weeks, but you can't. You got to reset that with Cooper Rush and yeah, we don't know what it'll be. It feels a little scary for sure. Monitor the Devontae Smith Hamstring News. We will keep an eye on it. We have an injury blitz podcast as part of the feature set@jointhefoot.com it comes from Matthew Betts, who is a licensed physical therapist and our injury expert and he will commentate or he'll Share his analysis of all the injuries heading into the week and later this afternoon@jointhefoot.com the jets at 3 and 6 traveled to Arizona to take on the Cardinals, who have won three straight games. Cardinals are 5 and 4.
Andy Holloway
What?
Jason Moore
And the DK Sportsbook line here now it is, it is moved. It's the jets minus two.
Andy Holloway
How dare you.
Jason Moore
It did open at Arizona minus one. I don't know. Yeah, even worse, there's a lot of Jets.
Andy Holloway
How dare you.
Jason Moore
A lot of jetting going on. The over under is 46 and a half. You know the more relevant lines for how. Well, I guess that's not always true, but oftentimes the line that comes out when the week opens is more indicative of what how Vegas sees the game as opposed to where it ends up sometimes. Because obviously the money's on the jets in this one.
Andy Holloway
One win for the New York jets and everyone goes crazy.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they lost in New England the week before also.
Andy Holloway
They have a very good chance to win this game.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they do. They do. Yeah. You know, it's not, it's not going to be easy for the Cardinals secondary and defense to stop the Garrett Wilson, Devonte Adams combination. They are a schizophrenic defense. At times they look incredible. They, you know, were able to go into Miami and slow down that offense. They were really good against Los Angeles, the Chargers, the sacking Justin Herbert, they added Baron Browning. You know, this should be, I think, a close game, you know, to have the line flip between teams. Jason, you brought up James Connor as your start of the week. He still leads the NFL enforce, missed tackles and was amazing last week. Breeze hall, you're going to start. Garrett Wilson, Devonte Adams, you're going to start. I think the real question marks in this game revolve around both Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Jr. That them independently for fantasy. The confidence level you have with Kyler, who you know, last five games, three games inside the top 10, two games where he was abysmal.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's, it's brutal here for Kyler because it's, the highs are fantastic. The highs are like I, Kyler Murray really was a part of me winning this week. But then when it's low, it's not just, oh, I didn't get a game from Kyler. It's, I lost actively because of Kyler. That puts you in a really bad spot here. Combine that with Marvin Harrison Jr. I mean, he's hot and cold just like Kyla Murray, but the DK reception line for him is at Three and a half like that is.
Mike Wright
Holy moly. For a wide receiver. One.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
I mean that's. That's what Jonathan Taylor has this week, right? Jonathan Taylor is at three and a half receptions. He's a running back. That is a really tough decision here. I think it is indicative of what you'll see as well. You've got Sauce Gardener and the jets have a great pass defense. This is going to be tough sledding for Marvin Harrison. This is not a must bench situation because the highs are very high. Not just for Kyler, but also for Marvin Harrison this season. However, I think there are plenty of other options out there, you know that, that you might be looking at, you might have on your roster where you need to take an honest look and see if you're willing to start Marvin over them. Marvin is not an art.
Andy Holloway
Or Calvin Ridley. I would go Ridley Marvin.
Jason Moore
That feels so bad.
Andy Holloway
It does. Marvin or Hopkins against Denver.
Mike Wright
Hopkins easily. I'll give you one that I think sounds really gross. But if I had them, if I had both these rookies, I would play Brian Thomas Jr. Against Minnesota over Marvin in this. And that's not. And that's. That's not saying like, like I would play Marvin Harrison over what we've seen from Jalen Waddle or Dunes A. Or you know, I'm not just all the Bears. Well, all the Bears. Yeah.
Jason Moore
I mean did we mention the reception lines? Just three and a half.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Oh my God.
Mike Wright
Yeah. That's very Dell.
Jason Moore
Your start of the week.
Mike Wright
I would go though, especially with no Nico, of course.
Jason Moore
Khalil. Shakir, the PPR machine. Shakira. Shakira.
Mike Wright
I think that one might be matchup dependent. You know what I mean? Shakir. Shakir feels like he has a higher floor, but he doesn't have the ceiling because you could still have. You could still. Shakira. Shakira.
Jason Moore
I love it. I thought you were making like you were embarrassed that I did that.
Andy Holloway
Oh no.
Jason Moore
And instead you just. Then you go right into it yourself. Like it's nice.
Andy Holloway
It's fun to do the Shakira voice talk.
Mike Wright
Going back to Shakira. Shakira. Yeah. No, I think we've exhausted Marvin Harrison. I expect a bounce back game from Breeze Hall. DeAndre Swift had a good game. Devon Achan had a good game. More importantly, both of those players. Those are the last two opponents from the Arizona Cardinals. While the Cardinals won, both of those players had six receptions each. And that is kind of a calling card for Breeze Hall. The open field tackle rate for the Cardinals are not good. They're swarming right now. They're getting after it. But if you're just talking about one on one tackles against Breeze hall, this is a matchup where you could see a really big performance. And his DK pass, receiving and rushing line is over 100 point, over 100 yards.
Jason Moore
I got there, you were fighting that you knew what you wanted to say and it's a good point. So we got Sunday Night Football, Monday Night Football. We'll talk about it momentarily. We'll take a quick break.
Mike Wright
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Mike Wright
Yeah, we're good boys.
Jason Moore
We just gotta give better analysis back.
Mike Wright
And talk about because I don't think we covered Garrett Wilson. Devonte Adams let's talk about them for 15 minutes.
Andy Holloway
We didn't mention that Garrett Wilson since week five is the wide receiver one.
Mike Wright
I mean, that's the Dude.
Jason Moore
I need to eat a little bit.
Andy Holloway
Of crow on Garrett.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah. I need to. I need to. Like, I came out and I was pretty vehement about the fact that there's no way that devonte Adams doesn't hurt Garrett Wilson. I.
Mike Wright
He.
Andy Holloway
But he did not hurt Garrett Wilson.
Jason Moore
That's just not been.
Andy Holloway
He helped.
Jason Moore
That's not been true.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah. Both. Both of us were saying that it definitely seemed like Garrett Wilson would be the number two in targets. When you look at expected fantasy points, not just what happened and what the result was, but based on targets locations on the field, what the expected fantasy points would be. Right now, Garrett Wilson is ahead of devonte Adams in that number. That's the most surprising, I think, revelation. Does that stay?
Jason Moore
Yeah. I don't know what him getting integrated into that offense looks like. Change the head coach, change of offensive coordinator, but.
Mike Wright
Cause you saw Adams finally have a good week last week, which you would expect them to get better and better as they integrate into the offense.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, well, I mean, he had a good week. While Garrett Wilson's putting up one of the best catches of the season.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that was awesome. The Michael Jordan catch.
Jason Moore
That's all the time we have today. See you later, everybody. No, we have Sunday Night Football. We got the 701 Lions against the 6 and 3 Texans. The Draft King sportsbook line, Detroit -3, and a half. The over unders 48 and a half. It on the surface seems like it might be pretty fun. We have Detroit really the cream of the crop of the NFL. I think right now it's weird because I know that the Chiefs have a better record, but they haven't looked the way that the Lions have looked.
Mike Wright
The Chiefs remind me a lot of the Philadelphia Eagles. Last year. The Eagles, I believe, were undefeated at 7 0. Were beating everyone. But you're watching these games, you're like, they don't look great. They are winning and they're not a bad team, but they don't look great. Now the Chiefs could get it together now that they've got Hopkins and maybe they'll get some of their injured players back, you know, Pacheco and even Hollywood for the playoffs. But I agree with you. Detroit looks like the best overall team in the NFL. If the Ravens defense was better, they could contend. But the Lions are. Right now, they feel just unstoppable.
Jason Moore
They also added a pass rusher, so Darius Smith coming over in the trade deadline. You know, the interesting thing about them is while they're One of the best offenses in football on a regular basis. They've won six straight games. Jared Goff is playing good football. Gibbs Montgomery, Amon Ra Always good starts. They do have players that are like, you know, Laporta and golf. Golf. Middle of the pack. Jameson Williams kind of hot and cold. Like it's not a full every week start for those three players.
Mike Wright
No, no it's not. I mean Laporta is one of those guys that you could really, really, really look and say do I want to start him or a Hunter Henry type of player. I think it's fair. I mean if you aren't, if you aren't questioning the should I just auto start Laporta, you're making a mistake more often than you're not. Right now he's the tight end 15 and for reference, if you're the tight end nine, you suck. So I mean he's been really, really bad. Not, not super involved. If you look at his since the bye week and some of these games were missing. Jameson Williams, one target, two targets, six. Okay, three targets. Those just aren't reliable numbers. He's a talented player but doesn't have the volume. I think. I hope you're not playing Sam Laporta this week and that you have a better option to pivot to or a better Otten. Oh, Otten is an easy in over Laporta. I, I've got guys like, like you know, my start of the week Hawkinson where I feel like I would rather play Hawkinson. Oh yeah, then Laporta. This is also not an easy matchup. Texans are number two against tight ends on the course of the season. If you adjust for schedule, they're still top five.
Andy Holloway
Would you go LaPorta or Jake Ferguson with Cooper Rush?
Mike Wright
I think I'm going to stick with Sigma Laporta. The, the, the implied total.
Jason Moore
The thing with Laporta is one big play can, can make your day. You know, that's the hope. But it's a good point. It's also like I don't have Nico Collins anywhere so I don't care if he plays or not. But I sure care about whether this is a great Sunday night football game and him being in the game would make a big difference. I'm not sure it really hurts Tank Dell and your start of the week. If he's in there, you need to keep up with the Lions and that's hard to do.
Andy Holloway
I mean tank Dell's DK receiving line, that 64 and a half that double digits, double digit fantasy points of three the last four weeks, he. Despite giving Jason grief for the quad down. I think that Tank Dell is a. Is a good play.
Jason Moore
Jameer Gibbs, just to share some analytics with you. Number one in the NFL, an average rushing speed, 13.45 miles an hour. Number one in average yards before contact. Number one in rush success rate and number one in EPA, which is estimated what points added so per carry. So he has been so electric.
Mike Wright
No one who has Gibbs is disappointed by him. But I think you're. You want so much more because it's.
Andy Holloway
Lamar Miller, man, just let it be. Let it be what it is.
Jason Moore
The ride is wild. You look at the game log 16, 18, 12, 11, 22, 1 6, 18. It's beautiful. You watch the game. I have Gibbs.
Mike Wright
I've got Monty.
Jason Moore
You will not see him in a first quarter.
Mike Wright
Sometimes the first drive. Never.
Jason Moore
Never.
Mike Wright
The first drive belongs to my man, David Montgomery.
Jason Moore
Montgomery had both of his cleats came off. They put him out there barefoot on the first drive before putting.
Mike Wright
They'd burn a time out. They'd say, David is our first drive guy. So it is frustrating.
Andy Holloway
He is charging up in that time.
Jason Moore
Is that what he's doing?
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah. I literally think it might be one of those things where they're thinking, we want someone to go and hit the defense, like physically.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. We want to tenderize the meat.
Mike Wright
We want to tenderize the meat for Gibbs and it's working. Not only has Gibbs been consistent and it's frustrating because you're not getting more, but I was surprised today. I looked at. I was looking at the running back, you know, on the season, who's the best running back on a points per game basis because some guys have missed games like Joe Mixon, some guys have had bye weeks like Barkley and others have played the whole season so far, and the numbers get out of whack. But Jameer Gibbs right now is the number five running back. He's top five in points per game because they've already had their bye week. He's just been outstanding. And goodness, if David Montgomery goes down to injury, I mean, he'll be the number one back.
Jason Moore
Joe Mixon has been darn near the number one back in football. His fantasy finishes other than the game he got banged up in, he's top 12 every week.
Andy Holloway
He's been amazing.
Jason Moore
They're so committed to giving him the ball that it feels like you can survive with the inefficient game which he might have in this one.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I expect him to have one, but, you know, I just talked about Gibbs being number five in points per game. Mixing is number three in points per game. He's been absolutely outstanding.
Andy Holloway
He's at yards per carry is not everything, but he's at 4.8 right now, which. The highest mark of his career by far was his sophomore year at 4.9. Everything else is like 4.1 or lower. It's like to be this.
Jason Moore
Have you seen Jason? He's lost like 47 pounds. Sometimes you peak the older you may be.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, sometimes you peak.
Mike Wright
Just wait till. Mixing in his 40s.
Andy Holloway
Sometimes you do. But for running backs in the NFL.
Jason Moore
This is Jason running back. They're not a perfect comp.
Mike Wright
Well, no, I was more of an offensive lineman, so.
Jason Moore
No, it's an incredible year. I understand what you're saying. But he also is a perfect fit for this offense. And this game will be fun to watch because they're wearing those cool red jerseys.
Mike Wright
Yeah, there's not much to decide here. I think the only questionable thing of, like, do I really start or sit outside of Sam LaPorta?
Jason Moore
It's Jameson.
Mike Wright
Or are the quarterbacks.
Jason Moore
Oh, I got you Stroud and Stroud and golf.
Mike Wright
I know I'm kind of nan now on those two. It's not a great week for boob, but I'd, you know, I'd rather play Darnold. I'd rather play. Would you rather. Here's. Here's a wacky question. Would you rather play Mahomes?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Really? That one.
Jason Moore
I'm not sure on Shroud or golf either.
Andy Holloway
Who would you rather play?
Jason Moore
I blame Mahomes over golf. Golf freaks me out, man. Golf can. They can win 52 to 7 and he could throw for like 90 yards.
Andy Holloway
I'd play Aaron Rodgers over both of them.
Mike Wright
I agree.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that's. That's a good point. We got a couple quarterbacks in this one to talk about. Miami 2 and 6, Los Angeles 4 and 4. The draft king sportsbook line here at home, the Rams.
Mike Wright
Breaking news. Please be that Nico Collins has been at home.
Andy Holloway
Nico Collins has been designated for Richard.
Mike Wright
I needed it. Woo.
Andy Holloway
Okay, CJ Stroud's back in.
Jason Moore
That almost timed up with our matchup. Exactly.
Mike Wright
I didn't see the news, so I genuinely was.
Andy Holloway
Brooks just posted it.
Mike Wright
I was a fish looking at a delicious lure and I was going to eat. I wasn't sure if there was a hook in there or not, but I'm going for it. I'm eating the heck out of it.
Andy Holloway
He has been designated.
Jason Moore
That's awesome.
Mike Wright
To return.
Andy Holloway
Slash returns to practice and we have made another roster move that's from the Houston Texans.
Jason Moore
Well that, that's great because you know what, for mixing to score touchdowns, they're going to need to move beyond their own 30 yard line.
Mike Wright
This is good for Sam Laporta. This is good for Jameson Williams. This is good for the Detroit Lions offense where it's like they're not going to just run the ball if the Texans can't score. The Texans aren't the same without Nico and it's nice to have him back.
Jason Moore
That is big time news. Miami 2 and 6, Los Angeles 4 and 4. The Rams at home one point favorites over under his 50. That's a lot of points. Very excited about what we're getting on Thursday and Monday this week. Miami and the rams with a 50 point over under outstanding. Lots of fantasy relevant players. Puka Cooper Cup, Kyren. You know you said you're kind of out on Matthew Stafford. I don't know why I keep returning to him this week with a little bit of excitement. His DK passing yards line is 260.
Mike Wright
Oh, that's really good.
Jason Moore
I just feel like maybe, you know, he's obviously been very good with these two guys on the field. You have to contrast that with the Denver or I'm sorry, the Dolphin defense being so good against quarterbacks. I just think they're on to something right now in Los Angeles and I don't know, like if this game was on the road in Miami, I would be more out, but at home, controlled environment. I'm kind of, I'm kind of kicking against the analytics with Stafford. I don't know how dumb that's going to look.
Mike Wright
All right, let's actually dive a little deeper to see because right now the Miami Dolphins are number two against quarterbacks. Over the course of the season they're giving up a on Average Negative 4.2 fantasy points against what that quarterback's average usually is. However, you had TUA knocked out halfway through the Buffalo game. And so then you had a four game stretch against Seattle, Tennessee, New England and Indianapolis. And in those four games where the offense of the Dolphins could do absolutely jack squat and so the offense of the opposing matchups really didn't have to do anything while they lost all those games. You had negative 5.9.
Jason Moore
Remember the Richardson game too where he was inept?
Mike Wright
Yeah. Negative 8.6, negative 5.9, negative 6.4. Those were in the Tuiles games. Two has been back for two games against Arizona. Kyler had a great game. He was eight Points over his expectation or his average. Then you had Josh Allen last week, two and a half points over his average.
Andy Holloway
So he's got a good average and.
Mike Wright
He'S got a good average. So maybe the Dolphins, when you look at them as a matchup, because this is what's been fear. This is what I've been fearful of, is you can run on the Dolphins. They're more of a run funnel. You're not passing on the Dolphins well this year and they do have some talent. They got Jalen Ramsey back there. However, I think some of those metrics are. I don't know if it would be inflated or deflated, but I think they're wrong. I think they are indicative of more of the TUA injury. So I am warming up to Matthew Stafford in this matchup.
Jason Moore
Well, Vegas has a high over under in this one. I mean, the HN has been incredible. We still haven't had a big game from Tyreek Hill since the return of tua. It could happen here, no question. We're all waiting to see if Jalen Waddle, who you now no longer have to play, can get it done.
Mike Wright
I think I will play him. What do you think, man? Lad McConkey or Jalen Waddle?
Jason Moore
What do you think, man? I'd be playing one of those two for sure. Yeah, I'd have to.
Mike Wright
I will too, Mike.
Jason Moore
Where I play Waddle with Waddle right now is receiving lanes, 42 and a half.
Andy Holloway
So Jalen Waddle is.
Jason Moore
Which is only what, it's only 5 more than Johnny Smith.
Andy Holloway
Your tooth almost come flying out your mouth.
Jason Moore
I don't want to talk about it.
Mike Wright
Oh, oh, that is.
Jason Moore
You might have heard it, though.
Andy Holloway
So we're in a weird place with Jalen Waddle because look, he. When I'm looking at Waddle, I'm always looking at how is he keeping pace with Tyree Kill. And it's like Tyree Kill is of course, way better for Fantasy and he's a better wide receiver than Jalen Waddle. But it's not like Tyree Kill himself is not having these huge electric games. Even with TUA back the last two, it's been better than Waddle, but it's like they're both not succeeding.
Jason Moore
So that's interesting.
Andy Holloway
As long as they're both not succeeding. I'm not going to completely give up on Jalen Waddle.
Jason Moore
Johnny and Achan are affecting both of them.
Andy Holloway
They are.
Jason Moore
With the yards per game. Like Waddle's averaging one yard more than John who per game this year. That is Reason enough to sit Waddle down.
Mike Wright
I will see again. When Tua was gone, John who was everything. I mean John who was an incredibly. He probably led the team in targets during that stretch. I don't have that in front of me but just from memory, that's what it looked like. John who's still involved with stopped.
Jason Moore
I mean six targets. Six targets.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And A chan has been like eight targets. Eight targets. So I agree that those two guys have eight chan. Eight chan. Well that's, that's a whole nother thing.
Andy Holloway
That's the website. You don't want to go.
Jason Moore
Oh, that's right. That's not 4chan too.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, 8 has got to be way worse.
Mike Wright
It's double the double worse I guess.
Andy Holloway
Anyways, never mind.
Mike Wright
I like I'm thinking about this game script wise. A 50 point over under what Waddle still can do. He got a touchdown last week and had a insane, you know, play at the end that took away like 20 of his yards. If I'm looking at lad McConkey against Tennessee or Jalen Waddle in this matchup against, you know, a really high over under and the 26th ranked defense against wide receivers, I think I'm going to play Waddle in this matchup.
Andy Holloway
And he's cackling and I don't know why.
Jason Moore
Go take a look at the our league of record feed.
Mike Wright
He just put Jamar Chase on the.
Jason Moore
Block.
Mike Wright
And instantly stared into my soul.
Andy Holloway
He looked at me immediately, you should trade for him.
Jason Moore
Al Borland looked at me immediately and just started shaking his head.
Mike Wright
To give a little context for why Al is so specifically mad Owl the day before, I believe it was the day before, yeah, was trying to trade for Chase. He poked the current manager of Chase and said, hey, I don't know if you're looking to sell or not, but I'd love to look into Chase. And he basically said I'm not selling, I'm in it. And Chase is untouchable. And then the next day makes a surprising offer to Andy's inbox of would you like Jamar Chase for? Not that much. Much less than what Jeremy would have offered.
Andy Holloway
It was taking a shot on the Amari Cooper trade to Buffalo.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I mean you got to call your shots sometimes and oftentimes those. The same manager called his shot on Tyrone Tracy and it felt like it was bad and it was a brilliant move because Tyrone Tracy looks like could be a league helpful winner down the stretch. But that's why Al is especially upset is because he feels like he should Have. But bringing it back full circle, he's available to be had. Now.
Jason Moore
Send me your offers. Okay. So you look the decisions on the other side, outside those, the quarterbacks, they're not hard. Kyren Williams, Cooper Cup, Pukinakua. Demarcus is an emergency play and a high over under. He could get something done. I think people are always hesitant when you're the third option at wide receiver, but it can happen. I mean, we saw it with these guys on the field two weeks ago. Two touchdowns.
Mike Wright
That's the only place he thrives. Andy is being the third option.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that's fair. Some injury updates before we get into fantasy face Off. Apparently, Dave Canales said it's a possibility that Jonathan Brooks could play Sunday, but not a guarantee.
Mike Wright
Oh, my gosh. I did see his status go from healthy to questionable. So he is.
Jason Moore
You know, they signed a contract and now they're like, maybe we can wait.
Mike Wright
They have activated him. So he will. He will be part of the roster. If he is, he'll basically be a healthy scratch if he doesn't play. But he should play football this year and goodness, I hope it's this week.
Jason Moore
By the way, I want to make sure we're clear about the Nico Collins News. The Nico Collins news was not that he's playing on Sunday. The news was the first step of playing on Sunday, which is designated to return to practice. So now he can go be on the practice field.
Mike Wright
That is 100% true. Is not a guarantee he would play. However, it would be a shocking situation to me because they didn't have to activate him. They have plenty of time.
Jason Moore
But you do need to activate them to know if you can practice and be right.
Mike Wright
Correct. But this means that they will have to have taken another roster player and gotten rid of that roster player to make room for Nico ahead of the game.
Andy Holloway
It pushes me to the point where I'll. I'm willing to risk it now. Like, I'll. I'll try to find my emergency backup plan, but my plan will now be Nico instead of taking a morning player and just be like, I'll miss out on Nico this week.
Jason Moore
I've got a couple of trade offers for Chase that I'm going to have to decline. I'm sorry. I'm going to have to let him go. All right. I guess we got to do this.
Mike Wright
Fantasy face off. Presented by DraftKings.
Jason Moore
Well, we have. We've got two weeks to pay out here with the Wheel of Shame. Jason lost two weeks ago. I lost last week, and Mike is the Winner of both.
Andy Holloway
So I am the winner by not being the loser.
Jason Moore
Are we spinning wheel?
Mike Wright
To be fair.
Andy Holloway
Are we spinning wheel spin.
Jason Moore
It's one spin.
Mike Wright
Wait, I didn't hear what you were saying, because I was putting Eagle Collins in my roster. I won this week. Is that what you said?
Andy Holloway
You won last week?
Mike Wright
Yes. This past week. Okay, yes.
Jason Moore
What I was saying was that. But you're a loser. You lost two weeks ago. I lost this past week. And Mike wins because he's not spinning the wheel. Sure.
Mike Wright
I just wanted to make sure it was clear. No one cares.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah. They're gonna look at you like a winner when you're dressed up.
Jason Moore
We've got to spin the wheel, Jason. And apparently it's one spin for.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, one spin to rule them all.
Mike Wright
Wheel of shame. I don't like this. Papa Josh back there smirking like he thinks because he's got this stuff.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he knows. Spin the wheel, guys. Well, so we got. Was there something. There was a pizza face, mall cop, fighting Irish.
Mike Wright
Oh, then.
Andy Holloway
Oh, the gnome zone.
Mike Wright
That's not the bone zone.
Andy Holloway
No, it's not.
Mike Wright
We're just.
Jason Moore
Do you like red or do you like blue?
Andy Holloway
I like red.
Jason Moore
Okay, I would.
Mike Wright
I would start with beard, then go ears, then.
Jason Moore
Wait, we have a beard?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Mike can describe what the heck's going on.
Andy Holloway
So the boys are putting on their very shameful gnome outfits here. Jason went. Jason's going. David the gnome. Was there a beard problem? Oh, your beard's coming off my beard.
Mike Wright
Oh, no.
Andy Holloway
It's backwards. I thought it was already ruined. It was just a backwards beard.
Jason Moore
It's very uncomfortable.
Andy Holloway
It's a really long beard. Make sure. No, put the ears on. Put the ears on. Do not. Come on. Get in the air of the gnome zone. Why are the ears so high up on Andy's head?
Mike Wright
That's where they are, Mike. It's not up to us. It's up to the costume.
Jason Moore
All right. Wow.
Andy Holloway
This is Andy. Looks like Merlin.
Jason Moore
There are two idiots here.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man, this is so good.
Mike Wright
This is. Man, we look so stupid.
Jason Moore
What is the YouTube address, Al?
Andy Holloway
YouTube.com TheFantasyFootballers the ears.
Mike Wright
The ears look real stupid. I don't like it. At least I can breathe a little. Oh, my gosh. This beard, though.
Jason Moore
All right, so we get to share our lineups looking like morons.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
This is so uncomfortable. All right, quarterback. I'm going. Brock Purdy, 6500.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Mike Wright
I am. I already hate my lineup. I'm going Justin Herbert against that Tennessee Titans Matchup because he was only 5200. A disrespectful price. I'm hoping that it works and he gets some points.
Andy Holloway
You got some beard in your mouth over there.
Jason Moore
Proceed with your pick.
Andy Holloway
We are live, boys, because I'm going Aaron Rogers at 5,700 against the Arizona Cardinals.
Mike Wright
Okay, okay.
Andy Holloway
Come on, Andy, get it together. What's wrong over there?
Mike Wright
Easy. And some beer.
Jason Moore
I'm eating so much beer. All right. We decided we weren't going to ban Alvin Camara because that.
Andy Holloway
Wait, what?
Jason Moore
That would make the worst. So Alvin Camara at 8100. DeAndre Swift at 6500. My start of the week.
Andy Holloway
Oh.
Mike Wright
I've got Alvin Camara as well as 8100. And Jonathan Taylor at 7500 against Buffalo at home.
Andy Holloway
I had that as a lineup, but I did pivot. I remade some stuff, but Alvin Camara, of course. And then I went with Aaron Jones.
Jason Moore
Yeah, 6700.
Andy Holloway
At 6700 against the Yoxaville Yawgwas.
Jason Moore
I could not squeeze that extra 200 out to get him in there. My wide receivers. This is why I couldn't. Justin Jefferson at 8800. Juwan Jennings stacked with Purdy at 5100. And then at 4200, I am going Jalen McMillan. If he doesn't play, it's a pivot into Sterling Shepard at the same price.
Andy Holloway
And what if. What if he doesn't play?
Jason Moore
Then it is a pivot into somebody ugly at 4200.
Mike Wright
Okay, I have Juwan Jennings as well as 5100.
Andy Holloway
Oh, wow.
Mike Wright
I did not spend up on any wide receivers, which is usually a terrible idea.
Andy Holloway
Well, you got all that cash in Johnny Taylor.
Mike Wright
Yeah, Johnny Taylor and Alvin camara. I've got DeAndre Hopkins at 5300. Seems like a mispriced player. And I'm stacking Justin Herbert with Quentin Johnson. So luxurious. Take your time getting back. Watch out. I got a huge stack.
Jason Moore
What was your third player?
Mike Wright
Hopkins, Jennings and Quentin Johnston.
Jason Moore
Okay, I like that for me. All right, go ahead.
Andy Holloway
Mike Jennings is wiped because I have him as well. Dust or Dustin Hopkins?
Jason Moore
Dustin Hoffman.
Andy Holloway
DeAndre Hopkins, 5300.
Jason Moore
Oh, you have him, too?
Andy Holloway
I did. I hate the matchup against Denver, but the price was.
Jason Moore
I feel like the price is indicative of. We're still not sure. Like, we. We could have a week where he disappeared.
Mike Wright
Well, they were Monday Night Football, right?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Yeah. So Monday Night Football, the prices are out. Monday Night Football players. Little cheat code for future playing Monday Night Football players don't get their price adjusted based on performance.
Andy Holloway
But I got Rogers. So of course I have the number one fantasy wide receiver since week five, Garrett Wilson at 7200.
Jason Moore
I almost had Adams in my lap. I pivoted off of him. My tight end, hunter Henry at 3900. My defense, the Patriots at 2500 against Chicago. I feel like they are priced really cheaply and yet can do some stuff. And then I am double stacking. I took the affordable Ricky Pierce hall at 4400.
Andy Holloway
Oh, okay.
Jason Moore
I'm going. Juan. Jenny. I'm very San Francisco oriented this week.
Mike Wright
I paid down for Juwan Johnson at tight end 3300. And I paid up a little bit on my defense for the Bears on the other side of your New England Patriots. But most of my money went to the fact that not only do I have Alvin Kamara and Jonathan Taylor, but I've also got Breece hall at 7600.
Andy Holloway
Look at this guy.
Mike Wright
So breeze hall gets rushing touchdowns. Mike, that's because you've got the Aaron.
Andy Holloway
That'll be a killer.
Mike Wright
Rogers, Garrett Wilson stack. That's going to be a big me versus you.
Andy Holloway
I have the Patriots as well. And then I'm running out 12 personnel. Boys.
Jason Moore
I thought about it this week.
Andy Holloway
Man at the tight end position.
Mike Wright
Mr.
Andy Holloway
Kate Otten at 5500. And then Hunter Henry is just.
Jason Moore
Oh, okay.
Andy Holloway
Hunter Henry is the cheapest player who I think actually will get production 39. So that's my lineup.
Jason Moore
What's your defense?
Andy Holloway
The Patriots.
Jason Moore
Okay. Yeah, they were affordable.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I wish I could get the Bears, but.
Jason Moore
Why don't you take over here? Segment out. Not because I'm choking on gnome hair.
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Mike Wright
That was. That was my beard dragging on my microphone and ruining.
Andy Holloway
We'll see if that cuts through.
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Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast: Week 10 Matchups + Double Shame, Chase BOOM!
Release Date: November 8, 2024
The episode kicks off with lively banter among the hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. They engage in playful teasing about team acquisitions and league standings, setting an engaging and humorous tone for the episode.
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The hosts delve into the critical analysis of Thursday Night Football's high-scoring Ravens vs. Bengals game, which concluded with a score of 35-34 in favor of the Ravens. They discuss controversial plays, including penalty calls that influenced the game's outcome.
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The discussion shifts to individual player performances, focusing on standout and underperforming players. They highlight Mark Andrews' exceptional game and Chase Brown's promising season, while also addressing concerns about Isaiah Likely's hamstring injury.
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The hosts praise the improved broadcast quality of NFL games on Prime Video, noting the enhanced graphics and production value. They express admiration for the technological advancements and compare them favorably to other networks.
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Presented by USAA Insurance, this segment covers the latest updates on player injuries and lineup changes. The hosts provide insights into how these changes might affect fantasy football strategies for the upcoming week.
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The hosts analyze key matchups for Week 10, focusing on team defenses and offensive strategies. They evaluate how these factors influence player performances and fantasy point potentials.
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Hosted by DraftKings Sportsbook, this segment provides detailed forecasts on upcoming games, highlighting over/under predictions and fantasy-relevant player performances.
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In a humorous and entertaining segment, the hosts engage in the "Wheel of Shame," donning gnome costumes and playfully roasting each other. This light-hearted interlude adds comedic relief and showcases the hosts' camaraderie.
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The episode wraps up with final thoughts on player performances and fantasy strategies, reinforcing the hosts' commitment to providing insightful and entertaining fantasy football analysis. They encourage listeners to stay engaged for the upcoming weeks and tease future content, maintaining the show's dynamic and informative atmosphere.
Overall Summary: In this comprehensive Week 10 episode, the Fantasy Footballers deliver in-depth analysis of recent NFL games, player performances, and fantasy football strategies. From dissecting the Ravens vs. Bengals high-scoring thriller to evaluating the impact of key injuries and discussing improved NFL broadcast quality, the hosts offer valuable insights for fantasy enthusiasts. The inclusion of segments like Fantasy Forecast and the humorous Wheel of Shame ensures a blend of informative content and entertainment, making this episode a must-listen for fantasy football aficionados.