Week 10 Start/Sit + TNF Preview, NFL Trade Reactions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/5

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Week 10 Start/Sit + TNF Preview, NFL Trade Reactions – Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/5
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright
Date: November 5, 2025

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Overview

This episode offers in-depth reactions to the NFL’s surprisingly active trade deadline, an early look at the Thursday Night Football (TNF) matchup between the Raiders and Broncos, start/sit advice for Week 10, and critical insights into waiver, trade, and lineup strategy—delivered with the trio’s classic humor, authenticity, and a little chaos.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. NFL Trade Deadline Reactions (02:00–07:00, 21:50–27:00)

• Unprecedented Activity: The hosts detail how this deadline saw more movement than usual, catching even them off guard during live recordings.
• Jets & Chiefs on Breece Hall: Kansas City offered a fourth-round pick for Breece Hall; Jets held out for a third. Neither side blinked, so Hall stays in NY.
  • “It’s like, ‘We’ll give you a 4, we want a 3.’ And nobody… yeah, nobody blinked.” – Andy (02:46)
• Patriots Running Back Rumors: Patriots were rumored active for a new RB, but made no moves.
• Jacoby Myers Trade: Myers traded to Jacksonville for a 4th and 6th; still unclear how quickly he’ll be fantasy-relevant.
• Sauce Gardner & Quinnen Williams: Jets deal Gardner to Indy; Williams goes to the Cowboys – both moves boost opposing offenses facing the Jets.
  • “Jets just lost Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Williams. This is fantastic…from a fantasy perspective!” – Mike (28:23)
• Reactions on fantasy relevance of these moves (e.g., Parker Washington as slot pickup, implications for JSN, Olave, ARI defense).

2. Trade Analyzer Tool Announcement (07:41–09:35)

• Big News: The long-requested Trade Analyzer (beta) is going live for FootClan members.
  • “You guys have asked for [this] for literally 10 years… it’s supposed to be a tool for Redraft and Dynasty.” – Andy (08:37)
• Features: Weighs player appeal, picks, rosters; helps users contextualize trade decisions, not just dictate them.

3. Backup/Waiver Options & Strategy (10:23–19:38)

• Hot Pickups and Drops:
  • Chris Rodriguez Jr. (Washington): Strong recent performance may warrant a start over JCM, who’s struggling.
    • “He’s running 4.7 a carry, they need to give him a shot.” – Jason (15:00)
  • Matt Golden (rookie WR): Disappointing so far, but worth stashing as a first-round rookie in a thin receiving corps.
  • Phil Mafah (Dallas): Deep stash; keep on radar post-bye.
• DST Streamers:
  • Ravens DST: Trending up, great 3-week schedule. “Over the last month, they’ve allowed just 13 points per game … you need to be filtering by the last month.” – Mike (17:55)
• General advice: Be proactive on waivers, stash DSTs with great upcoming schedules.

4. News & Notes (21:51–31:04)

• Trade Details Redux: Quick reactions on Jacoby Myers, Rasheed Shaheed, and others.
  • Shahıd to Seahawks: “This is not me moving JSN down my rankings at all…this is great news for Darnold.” – Mike (25:09)
• QB Questions: Jacoby Brissette named starter in Arizona; Kyler Murray likely to IR.
  • “Jacoby [Brissette] is much better for this offense. We’ve seen it for three consecutive weeks.” – Andy (13:07)
• Stroud Out for Houston: Davis Mills to start; downgrade for Nico Collins.
• Injury Updates: Complicated RB rooms (e.g., Brian Thomas Jr. high-ankle sprain, evaluation for Ricky Pearsall).

5. Thursday Night Football (TNF) Preview: Raiders at Broncos (31:27–36:49)

• Vegas (2–6) @ Denver (7–2): Broncos favored by 9.5.
• Key plays:
  • Brock Bowers, Ashton Genti (Raiders): Must starts.
  • Broncos RBs: J.K. Dobbins (“must start”), RJ Harvey ("desperate flex").
    • “Dobbins is a very easy start…Harvey is in consideration if you’re desperate.” – Jason (34:12)
  • Bo Nix: Feasts in fourth quarters; could struggle early under Denver’s pass rush.
• WRs: Tyler Lockett, Troy Franklin in play as flexes; target shares matter, even if consistency is lacking.
  • “Last three weeks — 10, 8, 10 targets — like, Troy Franklin is, I think, a fine play.” – Mike (36:16)

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Mailbag & Listener Questions (37:44–57:24)

Kenneth Walker: Drop or Hold? (38:13–41:04)

• Consensus: Don’t drop a starting RB with big-play upside, despite recent struggles.
  • “He can make a big play at any moment. You need to keep him on the roster. Depth is so important.” – Andy (38:56)

Jonathan Taylor for Bijan Robinson Trade? (41:06–43:32)

• Insight: Taylor has a tough playoff schedule & a bye, but the hosts trust the Colts’ offense more.
  • “If I had Taylor I wouldn’t trade for Bijan, if I had Bijan I wouldn’t trade for Taylor.” – Mike (43:19)

Start/Sit: Tyrone Tracy or Alvin Kamara? (44:40–45:38)

• Kamara’s struggles: Not a slam dunk; still, hosts lean Kamara over Tracy.

Justin Jefferson Trade Scenarios (45:38–46:39)

• Jefferson for Waddle/Ferguson or Kyren Williams: Both sides fair; depends on positional need; Trade Analyzer tool suggests dead-even value.

WR Start/Sit: Marv Harrison or Quentin Johnston? (46:42–47:38)

• Advice: Lean Marv, especially if seeing heavy targets.

Rest-of-Season Outlook: Waddle vs. Nico, Breece Hall, Rashid Shaheed vs. Jameson Williams (48:41–54:11)

• Waddle vs. Nico: Slight edge to Waddle, especially with favorable late schedule.
• Breece Hall: “He’ll be used so much…he is playing for his contract now…He’s going to be very good for fantasy rest of season.” – Jason (51:31)
• Shahid vs. Jameson: Lean toward Jameson Williams for volume and offense.

Dealing with Unresponsive Managers & Trade Tips (54:28–57:22)

• “I just text them…usually those people don’t respond to DMs either…then, public outcry.” – Jason (54:36)
• Apps: Sleeper recommended for communication, but note notification bugs.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Kyler Murray:
  “He hasn’t been the better quarterback recently…ever since the injury, he’s been very passive, bad in the pocket, unable to complete downfield throws…he’s not a better quarterback today.” – Andy (11:10–12:22)

• On the Jets after big trades:
  “Jets just lost Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Williams. This is fantastic. This is like, from a team that…the Jets defense could show up every once in a while…” – Mike (28:23)

• On running back committees:
  “How the Seahawks are so great and yet both of their running backs are essentially like, you put ‘em in…and you don’t want to—you put ‘em in and you don’t want to.” – Mike (40:14)

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Segment Timestamps

• Trade Deadline Reactions: 02:00–07:00
• Trade Analyzer Tool: 07:41–09:35
• Waiver/Backup Options: 10:23–19:38
• News & Notes: 21:51–31:04
• TNF Preview: 31:27–36:49
• Mailbag: 37:44–57:24

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Takeaways & Actionable Advice

• Monitor post-deadline changes closely, especially for offensive upgrades when defenses move stars.
• Jacoby Brissette is a viable streamer and upgrade for Arizona’s weapons.
• Backup RBs (Rodriguez, Phil Mafah) can be valuable with looming byes/injuries; don’t drop established committee backs like Ken Walker unnecessarily.
• Use the new Trade Analyzer tool to evaluate trades, but contextualize for your league specifics.
• Don’t overreact to recent poor fantasy weeks for otherwise valuable players; consider playoff schedules but don’t make lateral trades unless it fits clear roster needs.

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This episode encapsulates what makes the Fantasy Footballers trusted—and fun—audio for fantasy managers: smart, practical, on-point advice with plenty of real talk and laughs.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Oh, welcome in one and all.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man, after that trade deadline, no voice.

[Mike Wright]

Andy's boring.

[Jason Moore]

I can't breathe. Welcome in, everybody. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Yo, yo, yo, everybody.

[Mike Wright]

It's the hands that gets me on that video.

[Andy Holloway]

What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the podcast. Wednesday, November 5th. Thank you for joining us. Yeah, the Voice is a little beat up, but I'm here and we're going to talk about a lot of stuff. Today we had the unfortunate, I guess, privilege of like recording a show right before a million unexpected trades went through. And the trade deadline for the NFL is not normally this active. And then we got the Jacoby Myers trade on the show. So, I mean, it wasn't too much.

[Jason Moore]

But the nice thing is we're every day, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, we're right back here.

[Jason Moore]

If news breaks today, you'll hear about it in the morning.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. So we will talk through the implications of a couple of these trades and the trades that didn't happen. Right. I mean, we.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, there's a few. One upsetting. That's the one. Breece hall.

[Andy Holloway]

And that. That came down to like, I mean, this is just put it on the same framework of a fantasy football trade. It's like, we'll give you a four. We want a three.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was the chief.

[Andy Holloway]

We want a three.

[Jason Moore]

It was reported that the Chiefs offered a four and the jets held firm for a three.

[Andy Holloway]

And nobody. Yeah, nobody blinked.

[Jason Moore]

And then there was the very fortunate for Michael Wright. All the rumors of the Patriots.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Jason Moore]

Bringing in a running back.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And it did not.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's weird.

[Jason Moore]

Not Tony Pollard, not Breece hall, nobody, you nerds.

[Andy Holloway]

Not when you got Charles Jennings. No. I mean, I posted a video with all of the, all the touches for Trayvon Henderson yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, when you watch the video and you watch the game, we just need to remove the emotion of the, of the beginning of the year, the draft season, the hype, all of the baggage.

[Jason Moore]

Expectations.

[Andy Holloway]

Expectations. And look at the film and recognize this. If he scores in that game, you got everything you wanted from Travion Henderson that you could have asked for and he just didn't score. Yeah, I mean that's literally.

[Jason Moore]

And I thought he looked good.

[Mike Wright]

I thought he looked good on the video.

[Jason Moore]

You don't count.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

You're biased. You could watch him run backwards five yards, get tackled, you'd be like, but yeah, it wasn't his fault.

[Andy Holloway]

I call that the Ken Walker complaints.

[Jason Moore]

But, but I will say as a, as a more unbiased third party watcher of the film, I thought it was really good. The, the only that my, my complaint is they're using him like a 200. That's the 30 pound back. Like get him out in space, let him, you know, let him do some.

[Mike Wright]

I don't like there was like maybe two or three outside runs and there were like one was a pitch. He read the, he had, he had hit a hesitation. That's hard to say. And read the blocks perfectly. Got a nice chunk gain. And then my complaint about the targets of like, everything's just like that check down to the outside. It's like the, I don't know the name of the route. We always, we call them a Texas where it's you angle out but then you angle right back into the middle of the field. It's like Hendo would eat on that route.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, look, you can't. Like there's two sides to the Henderson discussion. If we, if we don't want them to use them like a regular running back. That is a humongous problem for training Henderson. You got to run him inside.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. If you want him to be a.

[Andy Holloway]

Three down back, you have to function in the offense that you, that you need a three down backhand. So you've got to. You like Devon Hn does this all the time. You have to run him inside because if you want him to become what we want him to become, you need to execute that. It's.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's more. We want. Also want opportunities like Achan's the perfect example because he runs inside all the time. But then they get him out on the edge. You know, they, they, they pass the ball to him a ton, those type of things, like try to get that type of a playmaker in space. But it's. The film was not bad. He didn't get the touchdown. And we have one single opportunity inside the five. So we don't know if that is like the role that went to Jennings or if it's like, oh, that just happened to be who was in the field. On the field, and he got the touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

The comp I would give you is what Chicago has done with DeAndre Swift. The first four weeks, they just. He was not being utilized properly. He was running at 3.3 yards per carry, and that's because he had one decent game. Like he had week ones 3.1 yards per carry. Then he had week three against Dallas, 2.5, 2.7 against Las Vegas. They go in the bye week and they're like, hey, maybe we get the fast guy on the outside as well. And then things have really turned around. So. Look, I'm not a professional offensive coordinator, but as the nerd in my mom's basement watching that, I thought the film looked good. It just. There could have been some better utilization choices added in.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think it's. That's fair. And as we get into everything on today's show, which will include backup options, all the trade news to talk through Thursday night preview some mailbag. We also want to do what we do every Wednesday, which is announced the current Megalobol leader. Oh, Smokey the Bear. 97.

[Jason Moore]

That's changed, right?

[Andy Holloway]

It is. Although I think Smokey the Bear was around the top, preventing forest fires and dominating since 97.

[Jason Moore]

Puk Newcomb still in second.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So congrats to those teams still fighting at the tippy top of the Megalo Bowl. Signed James Cook jersey giveaway still going [e-mail] and I am trying to decide whether I say something right now.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, once you say that. Just so you know, for future reference, when you say that part out loud, the decision has been made for you.

[Mike Wright]

I know what you're gonna.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So do you think it's something I should say?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

The trade analyzer.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you didn't know what he was going to. I knew what he would.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, but now why say yes?

[Jason Moore]

Because you had something that. Because you wanted to know. I don't like getting teased. You know, I want. I want the reward. Give me. Give me the cherry.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason is leaving the show.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You're welcome, everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

Ever since the mustache went away.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The feedback he's getting from family, friends, self. Self. He's retiring on account of a follicle related.

[Jason Moore]

Trying to grow it out as quick as I can.

[Andy Holloway]

I shaved for the Daniel Jones. And then, you know, I came in and I was like, man, I really thought I'd have more of a, like five o' clock shadow to look like Daniel Jones. And then you're reminding me I'm not Italian. And I was like, I really miscalculated the level that I shaved. The Trade Analyzer in its beta form should go live sometime today. That's what I'm going to say.

[Mike Wright]

Awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so we know that trade deadlines are coming soon. We want you to have the opportunity to go and play with that. It is one of a huge assortment of tools now available to [e-mail] and so we're very excited about it. We've been working hard. It will hit the app at some point as well, but it'll be on web first. And so we want you to go ahead and take advantage of that. We'll certainly get it out on social media when it's officially live, but we're very excited. This is something you guys have asked for for literally 10 years. So it is still, you know, you guys are going to use it and test it. I'm sure we'll have some feedback on it. But it includes the ability to, you know, you're bringing in your league and your opponent, your opponent's rosters. You'll be able to do trade analysis. There's an in depth trade mode. There's the ability to add draft picks to the equation to be factored in.

[Jason Moore]

And so works on Redraft and Dynasty.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So it's supposed to be a tool. Our goal with Start SIT tool. Our goal with rankings. Our goal with the Trade Analyzer is not to make all your decisions for you. Our goal is to give you all the best, most relevant data and information, contextualize it in a way that's easy to consume, and let you make a decision based on how we weigh those things. Because every league is different. Right. You can go in and we ask it on the show all the time. Oh, in a vacuum, would you do this? Well, you don't live in a vacuum. In your league, you have 11 other managers or nine other managers. So very excited to get that out to you. I know you've been waiting for it. So jointhefoot.com for that. And let's jump into backup options.

[Jason Moore]

Backup options presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, well, well. The waivers going through today, a lot of players getting dropped, Isaiah Davis being one of them. A lot of people holding on to Isaiah Davis thinking he'd be the number one running back in New York. It didn't happen. Jaden Daniels, one of the most, frequently dropped Kyler Murray, who I think. I think Kyler Murray will hit.

[Mike Wright]

We got more. We did just get a tweet here from Adam Schefter. This was. Oh, no, this was yesterday. But it was Kyler Murray. And the Cardinals have consulted multiple doctors on the foot injury. They've been told timetables for recovery have been anywhere from four to eight weeks with an increased chance of setback until it's properly healed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the increased chance of setback is. Jacobi Verset. This is. You know, Jonathan Gannon went on the Burns and Gamble show yesterday. A local network here talked about the fact he would have made Jacoby the starter regardless of whether Kyler was hurt. He said that on the show. So the injury is convenient. It's a nice cover for Kyler being able to get put on ir, which is going to happen. I'm telling you. He's going. He's going to get put on IR because it's the cleanest path to a new future for Arizona. You know, people have really gotten upset with me about saying Kyler's the better quarterback. He hasn't been the better quarterback recently. Historically, Kyler was an MVP candidate a handful of years back when the Cardinals went seven and, oh, and they were a competitive team. What he. His ceiling with his legs combined with him as a passer. That is a really high ceiling. Historically, ever since the injury, he has been very passive, bad in the pocket, unable to complete downfield throws, unable to stand in there and take a hit. You know, he's changed as a quarterback, and he's not a better quarterback today.

[Jason Moore]

There are two versions of Sam Darnold. There is the fearful young Sam Darnold and the fearless stand in the pocket Sam Darnold that we've seen over the last couple of years, and it makes all the difference. And it's gone in reverse for Kyler. Kyler used to stay in the pocket a little bit more scrambled, keep his head up, his eyes up downfield. Yeah, exactly. And make plays. Now it's like the unseen ghosts version of Sam Donald with Kyler where it's like as soon as there's pressure near him, he's so fearful and timid and the play's done. At that point, just. Just put some pressure on him. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Or he'll just run for three yards to get the play over with. It's Jacoby is much better for this offense. We've seen it for three consecutive weeks. He's actually in streaming conversations as a. As a.

[Jason Moore]

He's on several of my waiver lists today. I have Dak and a lot of leagues.

[Mike Wright]

If you got Marv or McBride, it's great. This is good news for your fantasy team.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. So Kyler dropped a lot. Jayden Daniels dropped with the. You know, Jaden could come back, but probably not to the point where you're like excited to play him going into your playoffs. If he happened to come back and we don't think he probably will. Jacori Crosky merit another big name getting dropped a lot makes sense. Bam Knight as well after the down week. Darnell Mooney hasn't done anything. Matthew golden who we'll talk about. Keon Coleman, some other names getting dropped if you didn't get who you wanted. I do have some other names to bring up. We each got a name for you. I'm going to bring up Chris Rodriguez Jr. For the Washington Commanders for a couple of reasons. One, he was the team leader in rushing and he ran much better than JCM this past week. The way JCM is running right now, it seems inevitable to me that they need to try different things. The offense will not be as good with Mariota anyways, so the odds of JCM having success staying in that role, to me, I think the team could turn. Turn it over to. To Chris Rodriguez.

[Mike Wright]

But what. What if I did this though?

[Jason Moore]

Only one. Only one person.

[Mike Wright]

Does that convince you?

[Andy Holloway]

We're almost to the amount of bills in that little drop as bad games that he's had in a row. So yeah, Chris Rodriguez was 12 for 65 and one on the ground. To me, if you need a spot start, if you're deciding between Nick Chubb and Chris Rodriguez, you can take a swing at them.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Rodriguez is Darius Slayton. Chris Rodriguez is a guy who's like, he's always been fine whenever he's been given an opportunity and they just do not want to give him opportunity. They hate that dude.

[Mike Wright]

It's like Dearness Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I don't know if he's like just pooping on the ground in the locker room or something. They just something behind the scenes. Seems like no matter what he does he can't get on the.

[Mike Wright]

That dude never flushes.

[Jason Moore]

He's running, he's running 4.7 a carry.

[Andy Holloway]

They need to give him a shot.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would love to see him take over and just get an opportunity to be the guy. I don't think it's going to happen but I like this As a pickup Chris Rodriguez is out there on a lot of waivers.

[Andy Holloway]

12 carries is a lot of carries. Yeah, a lot of opportunities.

[Jason Moore]

You know in our main league of record there's no, there's never anyone out there and Chris Rodriguez is like avail that he is. He is someone that should be rostered for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Now you have an interesting.

[Jason Moore]

Now I'm curious though. Who would you prefer if you have jcm, would you roster would you cut Bill for Chris Rodriguez because he's running better and might have the opportunity or the rookie who they want to have success with who's getting the kind of starts would you keep Bill?

[Andy Holloway]

Well I. Let me answer it this way and it might be cheating. I would start Chris Rodriguez over JCM this week.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that's fine. I will accept that cheater's answer. So I've got two names here. The first one pains me.

[Mike Wright]

It's disgusting.

[Jason Moore]

It is disgusting. Yesterday Mike you said that you would cut him and that's fine. A lot of people are cutting him. He is on the most cut list right now. It's rookie wide receiver Matthew Golden. What? Yeah, here's the thing we talked about. Luke Musgrave who I don't think is going to inherit Tucker Crafts role. He doesn't have the yards after catch affiliate. He'll do his best, he'll do his darndest. But Matthew golden is still a first round rookie wide receiver on a team that needs someone to step up on a team that just lost their basically their leading receiver in Tucker Kraft. It's a long season. Rookies get better as time goes on and you know I think it's a mistake to drop Matthew golden if he was out there. You know I've got a roster where I'm. I held on to him and I'm sure when waivers run here for us in an hour we're going to see Matthew golden hit a lot of waivers. I would be fine if you've got room to pick him up and still hope. We've seen a few plays that you know could have changed how we view him right now and the season is long. He sucked so far and I want to Throw out another name. This isn't to pick up right now. This is really probably to pick up next week. But just keep on the radar. It's Phil Mafa. Honorable mention, seventh round rookie pick for the Dallas Cowboys out of Clemson. He's a, he's a beef boy. He's a 235 pound body. Yeah, sure. He, he was back to practice. He was seen back at practice. He's been on IR the whole season. He did not have his helmet on. But they're on a bye week right now. I think that when they come out of the bye that they will activate Phil Mafa. They cut Malik Davis as well. The Cowboys did so as the backup. I don't think blue is it. Blues had the opportunity and he was a healthy scratch.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he was inactive.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

So just keep it on the radar. Deeper leagues, dynasty leagues.

[Jason Moore]

That's all, that's all I'm saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, you've got a defense.

[Mike Wright]

I do. Sometimes you want to get ahead of things. Even though I think that this, that the Ravens DST, they're in play this week, I like J.J. mcCarthy. Last week was much better. But just because it was better for McCarthy doesn't mean it was great. And the Ravens defense, over the last month they've allowed just 13 points per game, second fewest in the NFL. They went from who we are targeting to. I think they're figuring it out. And if you're looking at, you know, like the Ravens DST as a whole against positions, you're doing it wrong. You need to be filtering by the last month and seeing how teams are trending and the Ravens defense is getting it going. Like I said, I think they're in play against Minnesota, but this is more of get ahead of it.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you remember, do you remember the season in which Denver's defense gave up? Was it 73 points to the dolphins? And what happened over the second half of that season with that defense? I mean there are. When you have major health problems like the Ravens have had, you have an offense that didn't have Lamar Jackson. That puts you in short fields.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And the game script changes completely. The fact that they have the third easiest rest of season schedule is something to put on your radar for sure. And you need to just, you need to be doing this every week. If you, if you don't have a backup option, you need to add your, you don't have a bunch of injuries. You got a spot on your bench. Throw a, throw a second defense on.

[Mike Wright]

There because next week is Cleveland. And then the week after that is the Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean it makes so much sense.

[Jason Moore]

I mean you Isaiah Davis is now the jets third best player on both sides of the ball.

[Mike Wright]

The on both sides of the ball. I mean they got sold a three week run here for a DST in a row is you should not ignore it.

[Andy Holloway]

They sold and they should have and I think they did a great job with it and we'll talk about it in just a second. That was backup options Sponsored by Progressive Insurance court [e-mail] we'll take a break. We'll hit the news. Thursday Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. Join Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreet and Kaylee Hartung this Thursday as the Las Vegas Raiders take on the Denver Broncos. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member. Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Raiders and Broncos Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Well, well, well, the trade deadline, it came and went. Your fantasy league trade deadlines are coming soon and the trade that got broke on the news or on the show yesterday, Jacoby Myers traded to Jacksonville. The final terms that deal Jacoby for a 4 and a 6. I've seen discussion about them potentially retaining Jacoby Myers after the season with a.

[Mike Wright]

New contract Seems like you'd want to try.

[Andy Holloway]

You could also see, you know, depending on Travis Hunter's progression, they may still want to move on from Brian Thomas after the season. It's possible. It's been as disappointing a year as you can imagine for what Brian Thomas was last year to this year. Now he's hurt again. Jacoby Myers, they did say that the slot roll was going to stay with Parker Washington.

[Jason Moore]

Makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

And so I think Parker Washington is still a great pickup and a great play. Jacoby Myers, short week, figuring out an offense. I don't know how relevant you guys view him for fantasy, but I don't think immediate.

[Mike Wright]

Some hope.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I do think he'll have relevance this year, but this week they're going to the Houston Texans who have giving up a lot of points, great defense. They're number one against wide receivers. They're number five against wide receivers. I don't know if about schedule adjusted or not, but just in general they've given up the fifth fewest. So I. Jacoby, first weekend against a tough defense. I'm not playing him.

[Andy Holloway]

Rasheed Shahid was traded by the New Orleans Saints to the Seattle Seahawks.

[Jason Moore]

I like a lot.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you do, do you?

[Jason Moore]

I do. I really like this. I like this for both parties. You know, I, I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you one of the parties because of Olave?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I've got.

[Andy Holloway]

Because it's not the two teams.

[Mike Wright]

Those are the two parties.

[Andy Holloway]

The Seahawks and Jason.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, it's Jason and Chris Olave. I like it for both of us. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

So I went for the Dynasty show that came out today. I went and rewatched all the Tyler.

[Andy Holloway]

Schuck film and did you bring a. I mean my anti nausea medication?

[Jason Moore]

That was my expectation. He was not that bad. He really, really was not that bad. They barely touched the ball. The Rams just dominated. But on a, on a per play.

[Mike Wright]

Basis, they're not very good.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that. No, I mean that was the Rams just controlling the clock. Time of possession was one of the fewest amount of minutes. I don't have the stat in front of me right now, but it was like. Yeah, it was an all timer. So that's why he only threw the ball 24 times. And he wasn't that bad. His pick at the end of the game was like the game is running out. You got to launch this ball. It was terrible. But he was okay. And he was okay with Rashid. With Rashid Shahid. But to take the jokes aside, the landing spot for Shahid. This sucks for Tori Horton, but Shahid is such a good downfield threat and Sam Darnold, his downfield ball this year he is. His catchable percentage of deep passes is 81 and a half percent which is outrageously high. Like if he finished the season there would be an all timer. So I think it's good for Darnold.

[Andy Holloway]

I think this is amazing. I think it's amazing. I mean they don't. Cooper Cop is a part of the offense. Tori Horton's a part of the offense. Arroyo is a part of the offense. Now Shahid, who takes the top of every defense, he's 27 years old and then JSN, I mean I saw the Seahawks at number two on a power rankings today and I'm not sure that I. Well, I don't agree with that but I think. But I think it's.

[Mike Wright]

But you think it's okay for an argument?

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's okay for an argument. I think that they're playing that well and their defense is that good and it's just a shame for them they have to go up against the buzzsaw that is Jacoby Brissette this week because that's really going to slow their momentum down. When Jacoby goes in, there's no way.

[Jason Moore]

There's no world where the rug gets pulled out from Jacoby Meyer.

[Andy Holloway]

Just a Bossett.

[Jason Moore]

I say Jacoby Myers every time I bring up.

[Mike Wright]

It's a reunion with Shahid for Coops who if you remember the beginning of last year when you're like wait, are the Northern Saints going to actually be good? And you're like, no, no, they're not. No, it turned out they were not. However, I mean the this. I think there will be a couple games where JSN doesn't get the big play because Shahid. This is not me moving JSN down my rankings at all. But the fact that you have Shahid who's so good down the field and will end, he'll end a few drives throughout the season where you're like, oh, there's a 40 yard touchdown to Shaheed. So I think this is great news for Darnold who he's kind of been living in this fringe streamer. Maybe he's an every week start. I think this could push him into being a. Just put him in the lineup no matter against who he's playing. I'm pretty excited.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you were definitely the most excited of the group in terms of just what this means for the Seahawks. Sauce Gardner traded to the Colts for two firsts and 80 Mitchell oh man.

[Jason Moore]

The AD Mitchell part is, I think, smart but hysterical. Do you guys remember, have you seen the video from the draft where 80 Mitchell was taken by the Colts one pick ahead and the jets just celebrated because they didn't draft Malachi Corley. So then they traded up. It wasn't one pick ahead, but then they traded up to get Malachi Corley. And now a couple years later, it's like, hey, we'll take that guy.

[Andy Holloway]

It's huge for the Colts, man. It's a lot to give up. I think it's a good trade for both teams. I mean, the jets, they get rid of a contract, they get multiple first round picks. They were going nowhere fast. What was the tweet? You know, I was. If you weren't here for the rebuild.

[Mike Wright]

You don't deserve me at the rebuild.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, it's nonstop for the Jets.

[Jason Moore]

Do we feel bad for like the college star quarterbacks right now? Because it looks like with this draft, one of them is going to the Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Well, not according to them necessarily. I mean, the comments. Comments out of the jets were that these, these picks could get used for.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

For another better Kyler Murray, hopefully Quinn.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Jets, whatever you do, don't fix your problem. Don't.

[Mike Wright]

Don't steal Kyler from us.

[Jason Moore]

We will be devastated.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no.

[Mike Wright]

Don'T do that. Please don't, Quinn. Please don't.

[Jason Moore]

We'll do.

[Andy Holloway]

Cowboys traded for Quinn and Williams. Like they are.

[Mike Wright]

It's so hilarious. They're drunk. Jerry Jones running things is.

[Andy Holloway]

Jerry Jones is literally going senile in front of our eyes. It is.

[Mike Wright]

It's very funny. But the. To me, it was like, hey, fantasy football. You're telling me the jets just lost Sauce Gardner and Quinn and Williams. This is fantastic. This is like from a team that the jets defense could show up every once in a while.

[Andy Holloway]

The issue is their offense can't get first down.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. The issue is.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, I'm talking about my teams against the Jets.

[Jason Moore]

I know, but even still, like, if running backs. Great, awesome. Without Quinn and Williams and with a giant lead, you're going to be running. But it's one of those things where it's like, like when the Bengals have a bad defense or the Cowboys have a bad defense, it's wonderful for fantasy for both teams in that game. This one isn't quite as exciting because the offense for the Jets, I don't think is going to be able to keep up with how bad their defense is. And unfortunately, you know, yesterday we. I really enjoyed mocking the trade of going and getting a a bangle defender to improve your Cowboys team. But this is a legitimate already given.

[Andy Holloway]

Up the fourth most points in the league already.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah but it's even better now the.

[Jason Moore]

Quinn and Williams to the Cowboys that's going to make an impact. I mean Andy, you shared a video today of one of their defenders on the Jacoby Brissette quarterback sneak.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just unbelievable. It's unbelievable what happened. The Cardinals were sneaking the ball at the one yard line and the two defensive tackles just went to block outside players. It was just comical. But yeah, Clinton is a good run stopper. He has not pressured the quarterback well this year. I think he has a sack on the entire year. Their commitment to DTs and not Michael Parsons is strange to me but and it's not going to fix Dallas's defense. But there you go. Two big defensive trades. Cardinals named Jacoby Brissette the quarterback. We talked all about that already. There you go. Aaron Wilson said the expectation is Stroud is not going to play this week. Davis Mills should start for Houston. That sucks for Nico Collins.

[Mike Wright]

I think he'll be okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Brian Thomas Jr. Dealing with a low grade high ankle sprain. Would you rather have a low grade high ankle sprain or a high grade low ankle spray?

[Jason Moore]

I think you'd rather have a high grade low ankle sprain.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to invent something that stops the old ankle sprains. I'm not sure how to do that. Ricky Pearsall evaluated this week to see if he can return to practice. Called the timeline fuzzy. I bet he doesn't. Yeah, I mean him and Purdy like the Ricky Piersol story now is it sucks. Yeah. I mean he basically played three games.

[Jason Moore]

It seems like the 49ers are very committed to being healthy for the playoffs and not for the regular season.

[Andy Holloway]

But I mean that's a tough game to play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If Mac Jones gets you to the playoffs, you're going to bench him for Purdy Shanahan would. I don't know, man. Shanahan literally. Yeah, I don't know. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote Today at progressive.com, progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. Should have taken another breath right there. All right, Thursday night breathe.

[Mike Wright]

I'm out of here.

[Jason Moore]

Thursday night breakdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Las Vegas at 2 and 6. They take on that Denver Broncos who are 7 and 2. The Raiders did compete against Jacksonville this past week. Denver though 9 1/2 point favorites on fire over unders 42 Raiders implied point total is 16.5 points on Thursday.

[Jason Moore]

That is also the implied interception total for Geno Smith.

[Andy Holloway]

16.5.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm going to take, I'm going to take the under there. But the Broncos defensive front, they are getting after quarterbacks. They have 40 sacks on the year. The next highest in the NFL is Detroit with 28. They're on pace to break the all time record. Now, you know that doesn't mean it'll happen, but that's just an example of how great their pressure has been. And when you add that to the other side of the field with Geno Smith has not looked good, certainly not in pressured situations. I don't have high expectations for him.

[Andy Holloway]

Well in this game you play Brock Bowers and you play Ashton Genti and you check out probably because don't forget.

[Mike Wright]

To cross your fingers and hope just for those guys. Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's fair.

[Mike Wright]

Ashton Genti is as long. If we get that receiving work, you'll be okay.

[Andy Holloway]

But you will, you will because you hear Toby Myers is gone. Bash Thornton just does Besh get to play? That's the thing. Tyler Lockett, I mean we're going to.

[Mike Wright]

Roll Tyler Lockett out again.

[Andy Holloway]

Just play Genty and Bowers because you're not going to not do that. Genti, I'll have 20 chances in the game and Bowers is Brock Bowers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Where did you post the quote from Pete Carroll?

[Mike Wright]

I'll just reposted it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I thought it was, it was, it was nice to hear. It was talking about. Yeah, Genti's doing great. I wish we would have got him the ball more on the perimeter a couple of times. Oh but here's the thing. This is self evaluation he Sundays, because about 20% of the time you're going to get him down. We just got to get that done more because it's so obvious he's seeing that and saying we need to get him the ball on the outside and. But send that to the Patriots. Yeah, it went through my mind like that kind of self evaluation went through my mind of like hey, get a little bit more opportunity out in space.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the other side of the ball a little bit more confusing when you talk about the running back position. For Denver, RJ Harvey is performing on limited opportunities, 27% of snaps, 32% of snaps. And yet RB6 and 11 because of the painted part of the field got into the end zone for a third straight week in the receiving game and only had two rushing attempts on the game. Seems like that seems like a scary start.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So Dobbins is a very easy start. Dobbins is darn near a must start in this because you expect the Denver Broncos to be up. Last week he got 15 carries to RJ Harvey's two. So even though RJ Harvey had the touchdown and against the really good Houston team, J.K. dobbins was not able to be efficient, didn't have a good fantasy production, was outscored by RJ Harvey. He's certainly the player you want over RJ Harvey. That being said, if you have to like if. If there's a break glass case of emergency, if they are up a lot, that's where RJ Harvey will get more work. And he has been very explosive as advertised as hoped for when they drafted him. So Dobbins must start Harvey in consideration.

[Andy Holloway]

But Demarcato or Harvey?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's a perfect example.

[Andy Holloway]

I would prefer Harvey, Chris Rodriguez or.

[Jason Moore]

Harvey Harvey but that is the tier. So it's not something you want to play but it's something you can play all three of those guys. If you need to. Reminder though, because he is the type of player that is going to be coming in off your bench if you start him. This is Thursday Night Football. Put him all the way into the running back slot. Leave your flex spot open.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the explosiveness is helpful. Bo Nicks quarterback seven fancy points per game on the year. So it's. He's been a fourth quarter quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean those he shouldn't be.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going to need it early in this one. I think with the way the defense is going to play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, let's. Let's throw Cortland Sutton the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

You know he's 30th and expected points for the first three quarters.

[Mike Wright]

Bo Nix.

[Andy Holloway]

Bo Nix and fifth in the fourth quarter. I don't know. You never know what happens on Thursday Night Football. We've been surprised before. The Geno Smith played his best game of the season by far last week. It was against the Jacksonville defense. It's pretty good. I mean 29 for 39. 74% completion percentage. 284 and 4. You know, if you want higher upside in this game, you got to hope that Brock Bowers can somehow not be covered by Denver because he can't really be covered by anybody.

[Mike Wright]

So and I mean reminder, Troy Franklin is just continuing to see an incredible amount of targets. It didn't mean it didn't work for either him or Cortland Sutton last week against the Houston Texans wasn't a Super shocker, but 10 targets the last three weeks. The last three weeks. He sounds like a WWF guy. Last three weeks, 10 targets, 8 targets. 10 targets like Troy Franklin is. I think he's a fine play this week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the Raiders are beat at the wide receiver position. Those targets are happening. The implied team total for the Broncos, they're expected to score here, 26 points. So, yeah, he's, he's an okay start. And I remind you.

[Andy Holloway]

I remind you.

[Mike Wright]

I wanted to drop, I want it to be Pat Bryant, but it's Troy Franklin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it is. And Jason said it yesterday, you're going to have some, some ups and downs, but that's the way it goes at the wide receiver position. You've had that with Cortland Sutton and you don't doubt starting him. You got to rely on opportunities. It's like I always target share is there. Targets matter, just not in Cleveland.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys want to talk some mailbag?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, sir. Mailbag. Presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's answer some of your questions. If you have a question for the show, you can go to the website the fantasy footballers.com. click that submit a question button or you can dial our voicemail hotline. 302464, TFFB. We do have a couple voicemail questions we'll kick it off with and see if we can help you out for this upcoming week. Hey, ballers, I got a really tough question. I am really solid at running back and I've got a good record and I've got Ken Walker. I'm tried to trade him.

[Jason Moore]

Nobody wants him. I'm thinking of dropping him.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that crazy?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Thanks, guys. Oh, man, that is crazy. Now I'm going to read you the last four weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you hear our waiver show on running backs yesterday? I don't want Ken Walker more than those guys.

[Jason Moore]

That's, that's kind of where I was going. And there is no one to pick up on waivers. And you cannot have enough depth at running back position. While his performances have been very Poor for fantasy, 9 points, 4 points, 6.7 points the last four games for Kenneth Walker. He's also really bad. He's getting, you know, double digit opportunities every single game of the season. And the offense now, I think with Shahid and they're catching their stride, the better the offense does, the better it is for Kenneth Walker.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my gosh. I can't believe his numbers are that low. He can make a big play at any moment. It's. You need to keep him on the roster. Depth is so important. I agree. That's just depressing.

[Jason Moore]

It is depressing.

[Andy Holloway]

You need to change. We need to change what he is in a break.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's a running back, too. He's averaging 90 point. He's averaging probably a three.

[Mike Wright]

He's a roster. If he feels like a roster clog right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, look, look, I will put you in a position that you have a tough decision with a drop. You want one?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

24% of leagues this guy was available as of today, probably not anymore because the waivers went through. But just for the fun of it, Kyle Manon guy or Ken Walker on your roster?

[Mike Wright]

I'd rather have Ken Walker, Ken Wall, because I don't believe that. Even though as great as it was for Manon Guy, I think. I think he goes right back to his.

[Andy Holloway]

Walker's a committee back, too.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yeah, yeah. But he's the. I think he might be the leader of the committee. I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

But two of the last three weeks. Menangai top 12 running. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's more interesting question than.

[Mike Wright]

I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's one where the names. The names can be. The names can be the overwhelming part of it.

[Jason Moore]

But I think if you, if you factor in like, you know, there's been two times where Ken Walker has been a top 12 running back this year as well, and you factor in the fact that Swift was out in that moment, always be the case. And they scored like 40 points of.

[Mike Wright]

How the Seahawks are so great and yet both of their running backs are essentially like you.

[Jason Moore]

They're diaper gravy.

[Mike Wright]

You put them in. You put them in and you don't want to.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. They. When you have a committee and they're just doing what they need to do in the offense, I mean, it's not great.

[Jason Moore]

So actually, in fantasy right now, half PPR, it looks like Ken Walker's averaging 10.1 fantasy points. Charbonnet, 8.9 fantasy points.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I would. I mean, are you telling me you would play Ken Walker over Monongai this week? Because I would not do that.

[Jason Moore]

Is DeAndre Swift playing regardless?

[Andy Holloway]

Let's say he is.

[Jason Moore]

I would probably play Walker.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's go into another voicemail. Hey, ballers.

[Jason Moore]

Jake from Virginia, quick question.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm number two in my league and I have Jonathan Taylor in that situation.

[Jason Moore]

Would you trade Taylor for Bijan straight up swap. In my mind, it could potentially secure the buy based on their running back schedules. And Jonathan Taylor still has a buy will be John already at his thing.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I like the way that you're thinking in terms of like paying attention to who's had the bye week and trying to get the buy for your own team.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

My first initial immediate gut reaction is like, no, you don't do that.

[Mike Wright]

The Colts schedule, I did not realize what was about to happen. So they get Atlanta this week. Who knows, who knows which Atlanta defense will show up. But then you're on the buy. Then it's on the road against Kansas City, Houston at Hugh or at home against Houston at Jacksonville, at Seattle.

[Andy Holloway]

You have a fantasy championship week against Jacksonville. You get Seattle, San Francisco, like you said, Houston in week 18. And you can get Bijon, the Atlanta run.

[Jason Moore]

Bijan's passes by Atlanta goes Indianapolis this week. Carolina, New Orleans.

[Andy Holloway]

The jets championship week is against the toughest run defense.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that part stinks.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm. I think that that's a really.

[Jason Moore]

It's a fair play.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a courageous trade.

[Mike Wright]

I guess I'm open to it. I remember we had this.

[Andy Holloway]

Can't you get more than Bijan if you wanted to?

[Mike Wright]

Maybe. But the. I don't know if I have B. John. I'm pretty happy with it. I'm not going to pay a lot to go get Johnny Taylor like we had a few years ago. We had this situation where Derek Henry was destroying and you looked at. And his strength of schedule was the end of. End of year was against just the juggernauts. So it. I get it.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you do? I think you have that big button in front of you to push that button. Are you pushing it? I have so much more confidence.

[Jason Moore]

I have Jonathan Taylor. I have Jonathan Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not doing it.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, you have Bijan Robinson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm not doing it.

[Jason Moore]

I don't. It's weird.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like I like the Colts.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think I wouldn't do it for either side.

[Jason Moore]

That's kind of how I feel like.

[Mike Wright]

If I had Taylor, I would not trade to go get Bijan. If I had Bijon, I wouldn't trade for Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I.

[Jason Moore]

It's weird, but I think that's true.

[Mike Wright]

They're just the same. Irrational.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I like the Colts so much more. They're such a better offense. They had Sauce Gardner. The running game is going to be even more a focal point. Jonathan Taylor can overcome a Tough matchup.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would say the only, the only position where I would certainly make this trade is kind of the opposite of what he laid out, which is like if you're, if you're struggling, you need to get some wins. You know you which most people, Jonathan Taylor haven't been struggling too, too much. But if you're, if you look and you see real significant bi week trouble and you're still trying to make the playoffs and you're on the outside right now and you can skip that by yeah, that's a, that's a pro move.

[Mike Wright]

That you did do.

[Andy Holloway]

I did have to go glance at the game against the Rams number one run defense when they played them in week four.

[Mike Wright]

Colts.

[Andy Holloway]

He's 12.1 fantasy points. It was his worst game of the year. Oh no.

[Jason Moore]

Last week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, here's a question. Joey from Joey Az on Instagram. Should I start Tyrone Tracy or Camara or just trade them both for nothing?

[Mike Wright]

Oh man. So Tracy, Tracy, the Tracy was in a timeshare.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Like he played 44% of the snaps. He had nine opportunities. Meanwhile Devin Singletary played 56% of the snaps, had 10 opportunities.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Mike Wright]

So I don't. Tracy's not a slam dunk play. Alva Camara has been.

[Jason Moore]

Alvin Camara's been so bad the last three weeks.

[Mike Wright]

I'll trade for nothing. I think I'll do that one.

[Jason Moore]

The last three weeks for Alvin Kamara 4.4 fantasy points, 5.5 and this past week 0.2 fantasy points. That was against I will say this the last two weeks Tampa Bay Buccaneers hard to run on the Los Angeles Rams. We just mentioned the number one run defense so it, you know it could get better. I don't think Shock was too too.

[Mike Wright]

Bad and he can't over target Shahid.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to play Kamara. I'm going to go Kamara. But you might be right to trade them both for nothing.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll play Tracy. Justin Jefferson trade offer here from YouTube. Ethan wants to know would you trade Jefferson for Waddle and Jake Ferguson?

[Mike Wright]

No, I wouldn't.

[Andy Holloway]

No Instagram question was offer Justin Jefferson for Kyron Williams. It's a good trait.

[Mike Wright]

If you need a running back, it's perfectly fine.

[Andy Holloway]

In this case they need. They would be getting or if you.

[Mike Wright]

Need a wide receiver and you have.

[Jason Moore]

So whenever there's a straight one for one running back versus a wide receiver, what you're really asking is is it a. Because this is, this is team specific needs depth what you have around them. Take a Look at your team and see what position you need more and where you can, you know, withstand losing the player. It is a fair trade across. Like, Justin Jefferson is a little bit higher within wide receivers than Kyron is within running backs. Running backs are a little bit more scarce. So I think it's a fair trade.

[Andy Holloway]

I just, I just looked at it in our trade analyzer. Oh, it's dead middle.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, there you go.

[Mike Wright]

It's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Dead middle projected. Yeah, there you go.

[Mike Wright]

So we did it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's BB on Instagram. Marvin Harrison or Quentin Johnston this week? Marv at Seattle. Huge against Pittsburgh.

[Mike Wright]

I want to say huge.

[Jason Moore]

I want to say Marv. I think I'm going to say Marvin Harrison being forced fed the ball at the beginning of the game and then turning out. That works. You know, there was the report that came out that, like on the bus right before the game, they decided the opening drive, they're going to like, heavily target Marvin, get him, force him to get involved.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the way it was worded. Guys, guys, guys, got an idea. You're 27 games into his career.

[Mike Wright]

Like, let me finish the idea before you call me crazy. What if that guy. We took number four overall. What if we just pepper him with targets?

[Andy Holloway]

We warmed him up over 27 games like that would.

[Jason Moore]

The fact that they came out and go, now they're going to think we're going to do it again.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, Matt on Instagram wants to know Jalen Waddle or Nico rest of season.

[Jason Moore]

Oh. Oh, man. That's kind of sad.

[Andy Holloway]

There's an article that came out on the website today looking at Dynasty Tears.

[Jason Moore]

Amazing.

[Andy Holloway]

Really good article by Kyle. Kind of in the context of discussions you guys had on the dynasty show it. I was looking at all the tiers and the breakdowns in there. The three that got me the most that were like, I thought the hardest decision making process for, I think it was tier three, tier four wide receivers was the Garrett Wilson, Nico, where they belong. Where Nico was like down in Tier 4 in this article.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And that kind of bugged me. Yeah, that was the one that stood out as like, do I agree with that or not? It's wild, but talent versus what's happening.

[Jason Moore]

On a non dynasty standpoint. Having lost, you know, a lot of the other wide receiver options, including Tyre Kill. Jalen Waddle's been very good.

[Mike Wright]

He has.

[Jason Moore]

I also look at week 16, week 17, Cincinnati and Tampa Bay. Oh, two teams that you know you're going to need to score.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going Waddle here, I think. I think that's the right call. Man, crazy Malachi on YouTube. Sup, Meowlers? I don't know if I like that little Mac here. And I was wondering what Breeze Hall's rest of season outlook is with him not being traded. He'll be used so much. Yeah, that's what's going to happen. I mean I tried to put myself in Breeze hall shoes and my goodness, I mean this is like a lame duck running back on a team that has not really wanted you and yet is totally willing to listen to you and give you tons of work when you want it.

[Jason Moore]

And like, oh man, his tweet, his tweet.

[Andy Holloway]

So funny where he, he's got nothing.

[Jason Moore]

To lose after the trade deadline was over. And he said, he's like, I'm paraphrasing here. He said, oh, I'm sick about it, you know, losing these guys, I'm so happy for them. But it was like you just came out and said these guys who left the jets, so happy for them.

[Mike Wright]

Well, when you have, when you're the player, you're the human being and the team with their actions. I mean, I don't, I'm not privy to all contract discussions, but with their actions and what's being reported is like he's not being offered a lucrative long term deal from the New York Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, of course not. And then, no, that's not happening.

[Mike Wright]

And yet at the same time they're like, no, but you are valuable because we will only trade you if we get a third round pick. Which one is it? Am I valuable to this team or am I not?

[Jason Moore]

Well, here's the real truth decision as.

[Andy Holloway]

A Jets franchise to not trade him for a four. When you're going to let him go. You want to win more games and have a worse pick.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

It's weird. I still don't know how he will factor into the pick math. I presume he'll get a good contract, but that's what I wanted to bring up is like, what's going on for Breeze hall rest of season? What's his outlook? He is playing for his contract now. He going into last game, he said, basically, I need the ball 20, 25 times. And it worked. They got their first win.

[Mike Wright]

Andy said it a little differently.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I did. I did.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, did you?

[Mike Wright]

You missed the joke the first time and yeah, you're missing the second joke.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we don't need to bring it up.

[Jason Moore]

I definitely think he's going to be very good for fantasy rest of season.

[Mike Wright]

He's got a couple brutal matchups here of Cleveland, New England, Baltimore. Then you get. I mean, Baltimore looks good on paper, but I think it's going to be tough.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not looking at Breeze as the key to my fantasy championship.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Just trying to figure out if this schedule can tell us anything. Then Atlanta, then Miami. It's going to be tough, but he will get the ball so, so much.

[Jason Moore]

Now. We still don't know who the quarterback is, though. Keep that in mind. That's true.

[Andy Holloway]

It was. Can't you get the budget magician stuff right? The competitive advantage. You know, who didn't need the competitive advantage this week? And it's rare we can give him credit.

[Jason Moore]

Jonathan Gannon.

[Andy Holloway]

Jonathan Gannon, you know, a lot of value to establishing the quarterback at the beginning of the week. Is what he said.

[Mike Wright]

What you're saying this week? Yeah, yeah. Last. Well, last week he kind of did.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm talking about this week.

[Jason Moore]

He did come out early and say there's advantage to just having it established as your quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you lose that competitive advantage.

[Mike Wright]

But there's advantages to everything.

[Andy Holloway]

Rashid Jahid or Jameson Williams rest of season. Jamo got into the end zone again this week. Great play. She. I would go jamo. You know, I have to withdraw.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I get that. I actually would go jamo as well. You know, off the by, they. They seem like they wanted to get him involved. He was involved. Their schedule opens up and, you know, Shahid, we don't know how involved he's going to be. It's still JSN's team, so it's close. It could be the wrong call but I would stick with James.

[Mike Wright]

It's funny because it's a very similar situation.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean do they catch a touchdown? Do they not?

[Mike Wright]

I mean that's the Lions are Amon Ross team.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this was so I brought the stat up earlier in the either in the season or in the off season where it was like Jameson Williams and Rashid Shahid were drafted in the same draft class and had played the exact same number of games and it was their stat line career and she dominated Jameson Williams.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, Jameson missed a lot. No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

They played the exact same. Oh it was the amount of same. 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I with Horton and Cup and Arroyo and stuff. I don't think Shahid's going to get as much as maybe jmo, but who.

[Mike Wright]

Knows, Maybe it's the it's close. I think it's safer to go with Jameson Williams. I mean just the complete unknown of Shaheed. But like the Lions, the Lions running backs are going to score points and as of right now, the Seahawks running backs are scoring zero points.

[Andy Holloway]

Hatfield, how do you handle league mates that don't respond to trade offers? Hatfield on Instagram asked us.

[Mike Wright]

I shake my fist at the question.

[Andy Holloway]

They don't respond.

[Jason Moore]

Public shaming. I don't know. I mean usually the truth is the people that don't respond to trades, what I do is I text them or I DM them on whatever platform. Like if you're playing on Sleeper, try to poke them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Usually those people that never respond also don't respond to the DMs or the pokes. So then yeah, public outcry.

[Andy Holloway]

The only problem with the public shaming is that that does not get you a yes on the trade.

[Jason Moore]

That is true.

[Andy Holloway]

It gets you a no on the trade.

[Jason Moore]

It might get you a future response because the player goes I should respond to trades.

[Andy Holloway]

Rob asks a follow up question or similar one. What is the best app to play fantasy on that would promote trading the best? Tired of boring leagues we play on Sleeper.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And I would say to answer the question, there's pros and cons in all leagues but if you want something that promotes trades, that means promoting communication and Sleeper's great at that.

[Andy Holloway]

I wish that Sleeper and maybe they're listening because they often are. I wish that there was the option or ability to like man, this is going to sound so old. But I wish they When I used to get a trade offer when I was on Facebook, I'd get an email when the trade comes through because sometimes their notifications Their mobile notifications, they don't always work.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Sometimes you get a notification, sometimes you don't. I've had times when they don't.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. To be able to turn on email notifications for trades.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like for you it'd be a good old fashioned phone call, right.

[Andy Holloway]

If they could give me an automate because they have my number, Dude, I'll.

[Jason Moore]

Take a text like, this is sleeper, Sleeper.

[Andy Holloway]

You have been offered Jameson Williams or fax me. Yeah, yeah. Go door to door. I don't know, but it boring leagues suck. People just do me respond to trades. How about that? Just respond to them. You don't have to do a lot. Just click.

[Jason Moore]

No, but that's the thing. Like, I am someone who often doesn't respond to trades. It is 100% of the time because I didn't know a trade was made. I just don't see it.

[Andy Holloway]

Somebody needs a phone call.

[Jason Moore]

I have too many notifications because I think I get the notifications, but I get so many notifications. I'm just like, I'm ignoring everything now. Yeah, the phone call would help. Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I'm going to call you from now on and say, I just sent you a trade offer.

[Jason Moore]

I would never be upset. Could you imagine being upset if someone, if you got a phone call from anyone in the league ever and they're like, hey, I just want to let you know I made you a trade offer that's like a little, a little golden, you know, nugget of happiness that's placed inside me, like, ooh, I got a who's not. When you see trade offer proposed, you get. When you do recognize that notification, no one goes, oh, yeah, but I'm, I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Trying to take you.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm trying to. I'm trying. I can't call you if I think I'm a whoop you in this trade.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, sure you can.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. That was today's mailbag. Watch every game, Every Sunday with NFL Sunday Ticket in YouTube TV. Visit YouTube.com fantasy football, local and national games on YouTube TV. NFL Sunday Ticket for out of market games. Base plan required. Excludes digital only games. Commercial use excluded. No refunds. That is it. We're done. This show's over. No more trades for the NFL, but more for your fantasy football leagues. And make sure you go to jointhefoot.com we'll get that trade analyzer up there very, very soon and you'll be able to test it out.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.

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