Week 10 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, A Dingo Ate My Brady

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Week 10 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, A Dingo Ate My Brady
Release Date: November 12, 2018

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Weekly Matchups and Team Performances

The hosts kicked off the episode by discussing the intense Week 10 matchup between Jason Moore and Mike Wright. Jason expressed frustration over Mike's team's performance, particularly citing Duke Johnson and Nick Chubb's impressive contributions. Mike clarified his changing demeanor as "concern" rather than sadness, highlighting the unpredictability of head-to-head fantasy battles.

Jason Moore [01:20]: "I don't know what bothered me more, the fact that Mike's team scored 10 total touchdowns against me... Mike's demeanor was vastly different."

Mike Wright [02:10]: "It was more concern. It wasn't sadness... one of us is going to lose."

Veterans Day Tribute

Jason took a moment to honor Veterans Day, sharing personal reflections on his recently passed grandfather and great uncle, both of whom served in the military. He emphasized the importance of appreciating the freedoms earned by veterans amidst a "cynical political landscape."

Jason Moore [02:57]: "Thank you to all the veterans that have honorably served this country... Happy Veterans Day to one and all."

Studs and Duds: Player Performances and Injuries

The segment delved into notable player performances and setbacks from Week 10:

• Cooper Kupp's Injury: Cooper Kupp tore his ACL against the Seahawks, a significant blow to both the Los Angeles Rams and fantasy managers.

  Jason Moore [07:18]: "Cooper cup has torn his ACL... This really hurts the Rams."

• Des Bryant's Achilles Tear: After signing with a new team, Des Bryant suffered a torn Achilles, potentially ending his career and complicating his fantasy value.

  Mike Wright [12:20]: "I think it's the end of his career... an uphill battle for Des Bryant to make it back."

• Marvin Jones' Knee Injury: The Lions' Marvin Jones exited the game with a knee injury, adding to the team's woes.

  Jason Moore [10:13]: "Marvin Jones left Week 10 against the Bears with a knee injury."

• Ezekiel Elliott's Consistent Performance: Elliott maintained his status as a reliable running back, showcasing his consistency despite challenges.

  Jason Moore [21:08]: "Zeke getting going in the passing game... he's on the field all the time."

Rising Stars: Emerging Players to Watch

The hosts highlighted several players showing significant improvement and potential for fantasy success:

• Mitch Trubisky: Demonstrated impressive performance with multiple touchdowns, earning praise from both hosts.

  Jason Moore [14:48]: "Mitch Trubisky played wonderfully... he can play football."

  Mike Wright [15:16]: "Shout out to Jeremy for dropping Mitch Trubisky..."

• David Johnson: After a monster game with 98 rushing yards and 85 receiving yards, David Johnson emerged as a dual-threat running back worth considering for team lineups.

  Jason Moore [37:03]: "David Johnson is going to get as much opportunity as he got this week... he is a rising star."

• Amari Cooper: Andy highlighted Amari Cooper as his rising star, noting his consistent receptions and the favorable upcoming schedule.

  Andy Holloway [35:05]: "Amari Cooper, you've got five receptions and six receptions. Enough volume, enough work."

"A Dingo Ate My Brady": Quarterback Concerns

This segment focused on quarterbacks underperforming or facing uncertainties:

• Tom Brady: Brady's recent struggles were a major concern, with reduced touchdown passes and increased pressure from the offensive line.

  Andy Holloway [41:13]: "Brady has one touchdown pass in his last three games and he hasn't looked great."

  Jason Moore [42:18]: "His completion percentage has dropped to 51 in the Tennessee game."

• Ryan Fitzpatrick: Despite throwing for over 400 yards, Fitzpatrick's turnovers and fumble negatively impacted his fantasy value.

  Jason Moore [43:37]: "Ryan Fitzpatrick threw for 403 yards... the touchdown is so incredibly powerful for fantasy football."

• Derek Carr: While not extensively discussed, Carr was mentioned alongside other quarterbacks facing challenges.

Player Strategy and Waiver Wire Insights

The hosts provided strategic advice on managing rosters, emphasizing the importance of flexibility and timely pickups:

• Eric Ebron: With Ebron on pace to tie the single-season touchdown record for tight ends, he was recommended as a must-own player.

  Jason Moore [33:29]: "Eric Ebron is on pace to tie the single season touchdown record for the tight end. He deserves to be owned."

• Zach Ertz: Highlighted as one of the safest tight end options, Ertz showed remarkable performance with four of the top ten single-game tight end reception numbers.

  Andy Holloway [34:05]: "He has four of the top 10 single game tight end reception numbers in history... Zach Ertz is the safest tight end there is."

• Rashad Penny and Chris Carson: Mike recommended adding Rashad Penny as a primary running back pickup, despite uncertainties surrounding Chris Carson's availability.

  Mike Wright [36:24]: "Rashad Penny... he is a primary pickup at the running back position."

Pooped in His Big Boy Pants: Identifying Underperformers

The hosts candidly addressed players who consistently underperform, advising listeners to reconsider their roster spots:

• Doug Baldwin: Identified as a significant letdown, especially after returning from injury, Baldwin was recommended to be dropped from rosters.

  Andy Holloway [49:46]: "Doug Baldwin... you're always starting them and they're talking about... he's going to hurt you more than help you."

• Jarvis Landry: Despite previous high target counts, Landry's recent decline in production made him a candidate for dropping.

  Jason Moore [50:36]: "Jarvis Landry is not having huge success... you still have a ton of players on bye next week."

• Austin Hooper: Repeatedly underperformed, leading to suggestions of moving him off rosters in favor of more reliable options.

  Mike Wright [34:46]: "Austin Hooper... I'm not going to go."

Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts reiterated the unpredictable nature of fantasy football and the importance of adapting strategies based on player performances and health updates. They encouraged listeners to stay engaged with their rosters, utilize the waiver wire effectively, and remain vigilant about upcoming player matchups.

Jason Moore [54:19]: "We'll be back tomorrow with some waiver wire and Monday Night Football feedback."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Jason Moore [01:20]: "I don't know what bothered me more, the fact that Mike's team scored 10 total touchdowns against me..."
• Mike Wright [02:10]: "It was more concern. It wasn't sadness..."
• Jason Moore [07:18]: "Cooper cup has torn his ACL... This really hurts the Rams."
• Andy Holloway [35:05]: "Amari Cooper, you've got five receptions and six receptions. Enough volume, enough work."
• Jason Moore [33:29]: "Eric Ebron is on pace to tie the single season touchdown record for the tight end. He deserves to be owned."

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, player analyses, and strategic insights shared by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright in the Fantasy Footballers podcast episode for Week 10.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy footballers pod coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the show.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey.

[Mike Wright]

Monday.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, are you snapping the football?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm getting hyped.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Blue there too, look.

[Mike Wright]

Said, hey, when you, when you're playing, when the top two seeds are playing in your league of record and your team drops a buck 80.

[Jason Moore]

Mike and I were facing one another this week.

[Mike Wright]

Pretty, pretty, pretty good.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know what bothered me more, the fact that Mike's team scored 10 total touchdowns against me, which bothered me tremendously.

[Mike Wright]

It should have been 11.

[Jason Moore]

It bothered me more that Mike's demeanor changed so profoundly at the studio because when Duke Johnson, he had Nick Chubb eye Duke Johnson in this matchup, I was flexing Duke and when Duke scored.

[Mike Wright]

It was very close.

[Jason Moore]

Mike kind of melted into a depression and things were looking okay. And then from the moment Nick Chubb broke a 92 yard touchdown off until I left the studio in tears, Mike's demeanor was vastly different. Jason, you can attest to that.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I got, I got to. I entered into the scene right as Mike switched from sadness to he.

[Mike Wright]

It was more concern. It wasn't sadness. It was just at that time, both of our teams were performing extremely well. So it had turned into this. We are going to be the top two scoring teams on the week and one of us is going to lose. And it started, I mean, it was going back and forth. I didn't know if it was going to be me. But then it wasn't.

[Jason Moore]

Ha ha.

[Andy Holloway]

We assumed that you could not know who the winner was.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Because, Andy, you still have Saquon Barkley, Odell Beckham, and George Kittle left to go and you pretty much can't win.

[Jason Moore]

No, I can't win. And thank you, Melvin Gordon, Nick Chubb, Mitch Treb, Bisky, Devonte Adams, Brandon Cooks, everybody but Ben Watson on your team.

[Mike Wright]

I love you, Nick job.

[Jason Moore]

It's Monday, November 12th.

[Andy Holloway]

What's crazy is he benched. Carry on.

[Jason Moore]

Yesterday was Veterans Day, so happy Veterans Day to everybody. I was Driving in this morning, I was thinking about my grandfather who recently passed about five, six weeks ago. He was a veteran of the United States Army. And my great uncle just passed away. He was a Marine, fought in World War II. And I was sitting here, I was driving in. The roads were a little emptier. Some people have the day off. And anybody who's not doing the show today with us in this studio has the day off. And they'll. They'll be running out of here soon after we get it up. But I was just thinking, we get to talk about fantasy football for a living, and we get to make up ridiculously stupid names. And I get to be deeply, emotionally wrecked when Mike's team destroys mine. And that is a privilege to get to do that. Thank you to all the veterans that have honorably served this country, and we appreciate those freedoms. We live in such a cynical political landscape nowadays, and there's nothing political about the sacrifice that every veteran has made. So thank you very much. Happy Veterans Day to one and all. To one and all. Yeah. Back to the trivialities of fantasy football. You can follow us on Twitter, the FFballers. The website's TheFantasyFootballers.com and our community is JoinTheFoot.com. we've got our Monday one liners. We got our Monday puns from Monday pun day. Yes. From the Foot Clan.

[Mike Wright]

And very nice.

[Jason Moore]

We got some real winners here. Okay. You're going to enjoy them, starting with Ebron James.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I see. I see what you did there.

[Jason Moore]

Andy Dalton.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Not good. Ben Ruthless Burger. Yeah, he was amazing. Lashawn. Jason loves these beyond belief.

[Andy Holloway]

I do love them, but I. Ben Roethlisberger, one of the teams in our dynasty league, is the worst team I've ever seen on paper ever. And I lost. I had a great game. I lost. Freaking Spencer Ware put up a touchdown on me. But it's all because of Ben Ruthless burger and his 50 points.

[Jason Moore]

LaShawn McJoy. Yeah. A lot of joy. I remember with LaShawn. A lot of people played the jets defense.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, but betting on the Jets, I played the.

[Andy Holloway]

In our decision, in our listener league, I played the jets defense against the Buffalo defense. One of those was a good idea.

[Mike Wright]

Look, if you wanted to bet against Matt Barkley, you did so on on your own accord.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Your own peril to your own demise.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, totally saw it coming.

[Jason Moore]

Matt Barkley, you've got Traygon Smith from my roster. Gone from my roster.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. What that was.

[Jason Moore]

Goosed it.

[Mike Wright]

That was unfortunate.

[Jason Moore]

So here's to you, Alan Robinson. Yeah. What a game. Alan Rob's a win.

[Mike Wright]

Could you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I like that. Pooped in his big Boyd pants.

[Andy Holloway]

Boyd.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Shout out to Tyler, man. I. I wanted Tyler. Phony Michelle. Yeah. Yeah. A dingo ate my Brady.

[Mike Wright]

A dingo ate my Brady.

[Jason Moore]

Golden Tate. The third string.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's a nice one.

[Jason Moore]

And then how about this one? O.J. how weird. Your quarterback threw for 400 plus yards and you got one catch for 15 years.

[Andy Holloway]

That's my favorite.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was. Look, Fantasy football.

[Mike Wright]

Very thoughtful.

[Jason Moore]

Is a son of a gun sometimes. It's interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

It's all odds and probabilities. You need to win 60% of those little the decisions. Probability says this happens or that doesn't.

[Jason Moore]

Probability did not say Nick chubb would drop a 38 burger on me. No, but he did, so that's always fun. Let's get into the rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

Weekly rewind.

[Jason Moore]

All right. This sucks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Cooper cup has torn his ACL. Did it Week 10 against the Seahawks. And look, there's no two ways about it. This really hurts the Rams.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's super.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he's a great player.

[Mike Wright]

It's incredibly unfortunate for the team, for the man, for fantasy teams as well. It's just really crappy part of the game. But Cooper cup will be out. I mean, it would. We would expect Josh Reynolds would take.

[Jason Moore]

His spot, but a little more Gerald Everett.

[Mike Wright]

The emergence of Gerald Everett has been extremely interesting for the Los Angeles Rams, and I would expect that trend to continue. I don't know if Everett can get to the place where you're actually starting him, but we might get there.

[Jason Moore]

Probably.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, eight fantasy points two weeks in a row, but I'm not looking that direction.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I'm saying. We might get there by the end of the season, but probably not.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, if I. We've done this game before. If I had to bet on one, I would bet on Josh Reynolds. But I really hope to not bet on one. I want to. You know, if you have Robert woods, if you have Cooper Cups, then great. Andy said this. What? Or Robert Woods, Brandon Cook, Cooper Cups.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I did.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, Andy said this before. The show is like the only worry with one of those guys is that one game, it just kind of goes away from that wide receiver. But now with Cooper cup gone, I think it's. Woods and Cooks are very safe.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Not that they weren't already.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, woods and Cooks are great. Speaking of betting, though, Red Dead Dixon dropped a single. Dropped a single reception.

[Mike Wright]

Jason this isn't our weekly rewind. It's that important.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he said betting, and I started thinking about the bet we made that.

[Andy Holloway]

I won and the review saying that we.

[Jason Moore]

Let's get to that, rock star.

[Andy Holloway]

If you want to pay us to talk about Red Dead, we're completely open to that.

[Mike Wright]

They won't because we do it anyways.

[Jason Moore]

Nobody knows what you're talking about unless you saw my Twitter. But we got a one star review, which, by the way, those reviews really matter. And it said sneaky Red Dead ads and how they liked our show, but they resent the sneaky Red Dead advertising. And listen, man, I want to be paid by Rockstar. I love red Dead Redemption 2, but we share our lives with you. And much of my life is out on the Wild west right now.

[Mike Wright]

Look, I. I paid for my copy. I paid for the upgrade.

[Jason Moore]

Darn right I did.

[Mike Wright]

And that's on you, Rockstar. I feel. I feel ripped off now.

[Jason Moore]

That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. We are the ones getting ripped off.

[Mike Wright]

We are the one star.

[Jason Moore]

So if you're the one star review, I. I'm submitting my formal appeal and asking you to go in to Apple itunes and fix that on our behalf and. Or get Rockstar to sponsor us. So you're right. And then I'll take your one star. Marvin Jones left Week 10 against the Bears with a knee injury. Awaiting updates. That's unfortunate. Man, the Lions, they are bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. If they lose Marvin Jones and now they come into this season basically having given away Eric E. Braun, now giving away Golden Tate and then lose Marvin Jones. Yuck.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, I guess you like Golladay in that situation, but maybe like a man on an island.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, the. The thing about Matthew Stafford is Matthew Stafford, no matter how bad he plays first three quarters, usually has a decent fourth quarter to make it somewhat competitive. And if he's only got one target, I would like Golladay in that situation.

[Jason Moore]

You guys saw Terrell Austin, defensive coordinator for the Bengals, was fired this morning and Marvin Lewis has taken over as defensive coordinator.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

All right, cool. I'm glad you guys know that.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe you get a one game morale bump, but the defense is just too bad.

[Jason Moore]

Jakeem Grant carded off the field with an Achilles. Devonte Parker exited with the shoulder injury. ESPN's Adam Schefter came out. Talked about A.J. green is looking more likely that he'll return in December. Season's falling apart a little bit for the Bengals right now. Yeah, they're still just a game out. I don't even know if it's a full game because of the tie.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe a game and a half.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, the Steelers are surging though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Speaking of Achilles, to complete the saddest season in pro NFL history. We didn't talk about it because we talked about DEZ Bryant and what he means being involved. If you didn't hear Des Bryant, after getting late, cut, cut late. Too late to sign as a free agent for big money, finally finds a team, signs and tears his Achilles. Right. Wasn't that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And so he's gone.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And it's probably the.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's the end of his career.

[Mike Wright]

I think it's the. It could be the end for Des Brian. He's already, you know, around that 30 mark. So the recovery will be difficult. Then you're going to have to find a team that didn't have a lot of interest that's willing to go give you another chance. It's gonna be a very, very uphill battle for Des Bryant to make it back and just. Yeah. Cool.

[Jason Moore]

Everything was trending in a good direction for Lev Bell last week, including reports that the organization itself thought that he was going to report on Tuesday.

[Mike Wright]

And then he saw Des Bryant.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Lev Bell's not going to report. That's what Adam Schafter saying today.

[Mike Wright]

And if he doesn't report by Tuesday, it's. It's done. The saga will be over. Levy and Bell will not be coming back this year. He will be eligible for a third year franchise from the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's not going to happen because that's QB level. Yeah. So Levy and Bell will be playing for another team next year.

[Andy Holloway]

We're going to.

[Mike Wright]

Only Connor is safe.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So he comes back from the concussion. Tomorrow will be the final word. I mean, hopefully we never speak of this again.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.

[Jason Moore]

Somebody signs him, please don't show up. Chris Carson, Sammy Watkins, Rob Gunkowski, Randall Cobb, Robbie Anderson all did not play.

[Mike Wright]

I have a. Just a hope for next year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Let's get a season.

[Jason Moore]

Jason's an owner of the company, so you can't. I mean, he. Not much we can do with him at this point.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, crap. To boot him out.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's not what you were.

[Mike Wright]

I wasn't. But I like where your head's at. No, this is for the NFL and for fantasy football. Just a season where we don't have one of these ridiculous soap operas that drags on for the entire season.

[Jason Moore]

Look, if you need a soap opera, can I get One with an eighth round pick. Yeah, ninth round pick. I don't need this first round drama.

[Mike Wright]

Or at least make it General Hospital because that shows. Good. Wow. I don't know, I've just. That was the first one I could think of.

[Jason Moore]

They still do those, right?

[Mike Wright]

Of course they still do those.

[Andy Holloway]

There are tumors that still need to be found.

[Mike Wright]

There are people.

[Andy Holloway]

General Hospital.

[Mike Wright]

Returning from the dead. Returning from disappearance.

[Andy Holloway]

Long lost twin brothers separated at birth. Now in the hospital. It's really sad. This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Jason Moore]

Continuing to prove Jason wrong. Mitch Trubisky went out to my guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Mitch continuing to be motivated by me.

[Jason Moore]

355 and three ran in one. Had a two point conversion. And Mitch Trubisky played wonderfully. Having Alan Robinson back was a boon. He's got Minnesota, Detroit and the Giants next up on the schedule. This is his fourth game with four plus touchdowns. Mitch Trubisky can play football.

[Mike Wright]

Look, shout out to our buddy Jeremy for dropping Mitch Trubisky for me to scoop up off the waiver wire for free this week. I appreciate you, buddy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. I appreciate you. Well, it was funny because in many ways Mike felt stuck with Mitch Trubisky this week because he attempted with zero fab, to pick up various replacements or potential starters.

[Mike Wright]

How dare you? $1.

[Jason Moore]

$1.

[Mike Wright]

I had a dollar.

[Jason Moore]

And everybody kept sniping them. I mean, Russell Wilson disappears.

[Mike Wright]

Ben Roethlisberger.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he couldn't get Roethlisberger. I picked up Lamar Jackson, not for this week, obviously, but just to keep him away from Mike for the rest of the season. And Mitch Trubisky looks like the best of all of them. Big Ben, Drew Brees, Baker Mayfield and Russell Wilson ended up with solid fantasy weeks. Andrew Luck against Jacksonville. He is a big fan of tight ends. Big, big fan.

[Mike Wright]

Big, big, big fan.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know what the percentage is of his touchdown passes over the last three weeks to tight ends, but it might be over a million percent.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not sure scientifically. It could be.

[Jason Moore]

Marcus Mariota, Stream of the week. Had a good game. Surprise. They beat New England.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, I had to look it up because I'm not going to bet against it anymore. I get it. It's math is broken. Probability goes out the window with Eric Ebron. He played on 38%.

[Jason Moore]

That doesn't see. I wanted to.

[Mike Wright]

It matters to. No, it absolutely matters to me in general.

[Jason Moore]

But maybe it doesn't.

[Mike Wright]

Eric E. Braun.

[Jason Moore]

Well, for tight ends, maybe for tight ends though, if you look at for.

[Mike Wright]

Tight ends named Eric Ebron.

[Jason Moore]

Well, if you look at tight ends, though, that are technically like, you would consider them to be sharing that position. Right. Like, it's not a. Even though the snap counts is 38% right, you would still consider Doyle and Ebron to be a part of a platoon there. Right. So maybe in platoon tight end situations when touchdowns are such a heavy factor for tight end production, snap count is not as big of a factor. I'm going to look into those numbers.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. We can look into.

[Jason Moore]

There are a lot of situations where guys are goal line tight ends. Antonio Gates last year or two years ago with Hunter Henry was not seeing the snap percentage that Hunter Henry was.

[Mike Wright]

Seeing, but he didn't put up touchdowns like Ebron's doing this.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, nobody's done it like Ebron.

[Mike Wright]

It's just, it's a matter of probability. Like Jason's talking about. If a guy is out there running more routes, he has more opportunity. But Eric Ebron is just. He has put a nuclear bomb to that.

[Andy Holloway]

He doesn't even have to run routes, man. He rushed. He had a rushing touchdown. Okay, I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but what are the snap counts inside the 20? What are the snap counts inside the 30? Those are what mattered more to me. I don't care if Ebron's taking a rep at the opposing teams, you know. Right. His own team.

[Mike Wright]

That's a more. That's a more fair point. See where, where are the snaps actually happening?

[Jason Moore]

But, yeah, big game. Andrew Luck against Jacksonville. Jacksonville season looks lost. It's going to be Tennessee and Houston fighting for that division. Some things are shaking out in terms of the divisional races. I mean, Washington won another game. The Eagles lost, upset Philadelphia. So running backs, Nick Chubb was the big story. 20 for 176, longest touchdown in Browns history. A 92 yard run. He's averaged 102 rushing yards per game. That's deceptive. A little bit, but that's a deceptive number because he ran for 176 in the season.

[Mike Wright]

But since Carlos Hyde has begun. 80, 65, 85 and then the monster game. So, I mean, he, Nick Chubb has been, he's been fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

Can you start him and Duke Johnson on a weekly basis?

[Andy Holloway]

Not on a weekly basis. I think you can start Chubb on a weekly basis. And Duke Johnson to me needs a certain type of game. Like, like this one where we were saying Duke was a great play against Atlanta.

[Jason Moore]

I'll say this, though. I mean, we said he's a great play against Atlanta. Game Script didn't go the way we thought.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true. But the reason he was a great. Because Atlanta always gives up pass catching, running back fantasy points. And that's Duke Johnson's wheelhouse.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And we'll see. I mean, with. With the changeover this. We had also talked about the possibility that. That Kitchens, the new offensive coordinator, could change things up to me, be more friendly for Duke was not heavily used in this game.

[Jason Moore]

He just ended up with a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Christian McCaffrey. The monster week. Hey, who's this guy?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, David Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, David. It was Nice to see 98 rushing yards, 85 receiving yards, seven catches, two touchdowns. David Johnson. He did it. He did it on. In a game where the implied point total for Arizona was very low and he still put up a monster fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

He's going to do it again next week.

[Jason Moore]

Oakland.

[Mike Wright]

He gets the Raiders.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's great to see. We're going to talk about him again shortly. Ezekiel Elliot.

[Andy Holloway]

What was really. Yo, we're going to talk about him again. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

We're going to talk about David Johnson again. We do this thing called Rising stars on the show.

[Andy Holloway]

I was unaware that he was.

[Jason Moore]

And we do it. We do it later on and he's going to be my rising star. Jason Spoiler. That's what I was getting at. Aaron Jones broken out finally whittled down every bar in that cell Broke out the law can't find him no one can find him. 15 for 145, two touchdowns, out touched Jamal Williams 18 to 3 and wouldn't you know, had wonderful success and the team had wonderful success.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. That's so weird.

[Jason Moore]

Hello, McCarthy.

[Andy Holloway]

It was crazy watching that game. It was inner turmoil for me because he was high in my rankings, but I was playing against him. And every single time he touched the ball, it looked like it was just run for first down. And every time it was. It looked like he was about to break off a touchdown. He's really good. And then they put Jamal Charles in the game and you go, or Jamal Williams and they. You go. That dude's so slow.

[Mike Wright]

He said, that's not Aaron Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

No. So, I mean, yeah, the breakout has happened. I think he, you know, rest of season, he's going to be a great start.

[Jason Moore]

Could be a league winner type of player. Ezekiel A. 19 for 151 and 1. The Big Story with Zeke is he's already had his season high in catches. He's on the field all the time. Great game for Zeke against the Philadelphia run defense. That was in the top five of the league. They need to keep feeding him. They need to give him the ball more and more and more like you know, to the tune of Todd Gurley s numbers every week.

[Mike Wright]

But they all, they need to be creative as well though. I mean and then the targets is a huge part of that. They just, you can't do what they did the couple weeks ago where the defense knew exactly what was going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, let's talk about some more running backs. Leonard Fournette, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yes, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Leonard Fernet. 24 for 53 and a touchdown. Those are really bad yard per carry numbers.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are really bad. But when you get a multi touchdown over 100 all purpose yards, it's a great start. You definitely disappointed with the efficiency in the run game against the the Colts but you can't, you can't be too sad with the fact the point was he's full workload and he is the clear cut back.

[Jason Moore]

Carlos Hyde's requesting a trade back to the Browns. I think only three touches. Melvin Gordon doing Melvin Gordon things. The nice thing about Melvin Gordon is no matter how much success he's had during any part of the game, he's one play away. And at this point in time, Lashawn McCoy, what do you think about Lashawn McCoy's big performance? 26 for 113 and 2 didn't even catch the ball which has been the way he's been saving his production for fantasy owners. He only had one target.

[Mike Wright]

If you watch the game, it was, this was old school Shady McCoy. It was, it was fun. It was invigorating to watch because when Shady's running free, when he's the slippery fish, he is an extremely entertaining player to watch. It came on the back of, I was being jocular about it, but Matt Barkley was actually a competent quarterback and that, that's the difference for Lashawn McCoy. He's got the bye week. Josh Allen is reported to be back. If Josh Allen can be competent at all, then yes, Shady McCoy is getting the type of volume to be running back too. But if Josh Allen comes back and looks really bad, then, then you're in trouble again with McCoy. So it's, it's. I don't think you can project confidently one way or the other right now where he's going to go.

[Jason Moore]

There were two pretty significant games this week that we need to talk about. The one, one is Mark Ingram's game, 13 for 104, three for 58 in the passing game with a touchdown. The other one is Kerryon Johnson's game. 14 for 51 and a touchdown. Surprise 38 and a touchdown through the air. And I think what fantasy owners want to know, dare I say deserve to know, is whether or not it's going to last for these two players. The concern with Ingram has been opportunity, especially on the goal line. The concern with Kerryon Johnson was the return of Theo Riddick and the disintegration of his passing game work. But you had really big fantasy days. Probably on a lot of benches for Ingram and Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm very confident in both players. Mark Ingram, he didn't get some crazy new opportunity. Exactly what he's been getting. I mean 12 carries, 13 carries, nine carries, 13 this week. But he, he's on a great offense. You get the opportunities to score touchdowns, which he had through the air, three receptions for 58. I'm very confident in Mark Ingram. Is he going to be great every single week? No, there's very few players that just every single week have a great output. He's not Alvin Camara, Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon, but he's a, he's a very good running back who gets enough opportunity on a great offense. And as far as carry on is concerned, the thing that really, really makes me happy is the. Theo is back. Six receptions. That's the, that was the worry, right? Going in with, with carry on. It wasn't just, I mean the worry a little bit was matchup on the road. Not, not a great game. But with Theo back, will he continue to be used in the passing game? And he was. Maybe that's. He was. Yeah, he was. This week of the absence of Golden Tate, where you've just got, you know, a few more targets to go around to those running backs.

[Jason Moore]

Ingram and Camara finished the week exactly tied as the 9th ranked fantasy running back. This week Kerryon Johnson finished as the 12th ranked running back. One more carry for Ingram. That game got out of hand pretty quick. They didn't even play starters in. In part of the fourth quarter. Okay, let's move on to some whiteouts. Tyree Kill, two touchdowns. Nice to see some. I had a, I had a contact on the chief sideline from last week saying that he played last week at about 80% at best coming up, you know how he was banged up and he had the groin injury and Andy Reid was concerned about it. Said he saw Hill warming up. He looks kind of restricted. He came out, didn't look restricted in this game. Had a big game against Patrick Peterson. I say that same, you know, he was. Both of his touchdowns came in the seam but he avoided, you know. No, Sammy Watkins out there still had a monster game. They have the Rams next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's going to be such a good game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, it will be. And man, if the Rams had not held on right, lost the second straight game and then have to. Did you see the Chiefs? That would have been interesting.

[Mike Wright]

The slow motion exuberant celebration from head coach Sean McVeigh.

[Jason Moore]

I did not.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, and I mean the lip readers had gonna have themselves a time with.

[Jason Moore]

That after the game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's. Look, the man was very excited. Couple words, said some things that we don't say on this show. But that man was fired up.

[Jason Moore]

Fired up like woohoo.

[Andy Holloway]

We did it, boys.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Very close.

[Jason Moore]

Good job team. Alan Robinson 6 for 133 and 2 putting any doubters to rest for now.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean he had to be on most people's bench, right? Yeah. Just because coming off the injury but.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know, bye weeks and stuff. I think if you had him, you probably.

[Andy Holloway]

Hopefully you did.

[Jason Moore]

Hopefully you played him.

[Andy Holloway]

Minnesota, Xavier Rhodes, how confident he destroyed Darius Slay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but Slay was. Slay was banged up all week.

[Jason Moore]

It'll be interesting mentally banged up now.

[Mike Wright]

It'Ll be interesting to see what happens with Alan Robinson and you're right with Rhodes and what Trubisky can do against Minnesota.

[Jason Moore]

Anthony Miller had a great game in that one too. Anthony Miller for 122 and 1.

[Andy Holloway]

He was almost my rising star. Just because he did it with Alan Robinson on the field.

[Mike Wright]

Well, because you know who didn't do it? Taylor Gabriel.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

See that makes sense though because rookie wide receivers establishing themselves. There's some metrics out there. Nobody gets more separation at the point of break than you know, Anthony Miller is up there with the Antonio Browns World impressive 2.2 something yards of separation on his route. So it was a matter of time with Anthony Miller. Taylor Gabriels capped Anthony Miller's ascending.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So five for 122. Great game for him. He's going to be a waiver wire target. No doubt about it. Michael Thomas, two more touchdowns. Ho hum.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, ho hum.

[Jason Moore]

Doing Michael Thomas things.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe people were able to trade for Michael Thomas in the brief. Des Bryant is their window.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I hope so. I hope so. Corey Davis likes playing the New England Patriots for 125 and one on 10 targets. What? Indianapolis, Houston, New York. Coming up, Corey Davis is this. He gives you kind of the mirage in the desert every once in a while.

[Andy Holloway]

Marcus Mariota though is actually looking. He's been better than you the last couple weeks. Can you buy in or is this a trap? It's a trap.

[Jason Moore]

Well, if you look, I don't know. It's not a trap in the sense that there are plenty of poopers we're going to talk about and you're going to have to make a decision. Would you drop Traquan Smith to sign Corey Davis? Yeah. Yeah, you do that. So I Think there will be decisions to be made? Maybe we'll bring Corey Davis name up again when we talk about some of the poopers and what you do with your roster.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Devonte Adams, Julio Jones, Brandon Cooks. You're always starting them and they're talking about.

[Mike Wright]

You mean, you mean Julio Touchdown Jones.

[Jason Moore]

That is what they call him.

[Mike Wright]

They call him these days.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going to have a touchdown every game, rest of season. Just like the ice is finally broken.

[Jason Moore]

It makes sense. He gets too many targets. This was just an enigma. This is like the coin toss thing for Kansas City.

[Andy Holloway]

Did that continue?

[Mike Wright]

No, they lost.

[Jason Moore]

They lost.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Kansas City had won nine consecutive coin tosses. Look, eventually you're going to lose.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And when you, when you don't cover Julio, eventually you're going to lose. Dante Moncrief, 3 for 98. When Dante Moncrief has a game, it is always on the back of a 70, 80 yard reception. So you got it this week.

[Andy Holloway]

What about. Look, we got a breakout wide receiver with a brand new quarterback. Zay Jones. Well, Matt Barkley.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the connection. Like I said, Josh Allen's gonna be back.

[Jason Moore]

I would consider signing Zay Jones to cut him.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Just as a way of saying thank you for scoring on the waiver wire.

[Andy Holloway]

An honorary pickup.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he deserves to. He's been on the waiver wire. He deserves to be signed and cut. Eric Ebron, three for 69 and two touchdowns on three targets. Also had a rushing touchdown. Sure. Ebron is on pace to tie the single season touchdown record for the tight end. He deserves to be owned. He deserves to be started. Zach ertz against Dallas, 14 for 145 and two on 16 targets.

[Andy Holloway]

He's unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

He is a wide receiver and a tight end combined.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

In one position.

[Andy Holloway]

He has four of the top 10 single game tight end reception numbers in history. One of which was.

[Mike Wright]

That's ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Already, Already in a young career, Zach Ertz is the safest tight end there is. I mean, I feel like Kelsey has a higher ceiling for multi touchdown games.

[Mike Wright]

I would agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Despite the fact that he did not score a touchdown. And Zachary had a multi touchdown game this week. But the safer option is Ertz.

[Jason Moore]

Austin Hooper did it again. 11 targets, 10 catches every once in a while. Every once in a while. Austin Hooper, you're not going to fool.

[Mike Wright]

Me a fourth time. Austin Hooper. No, no.

[Jason Moore]

What if you started one of the poopers?

[Mike Wright]

Well, yes, this week, but I'm saying I'm not going to go. Okay, well, Austin Hooper, he's right back at it after his Jack Doyle.

[Andy Holloway]

You're.

[Jason Moore]

You're signing and keeping Jack Doyle above Austin Hooper?

[Mike Wright]

I would, yes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Just checking. All right. It is rising star time.

[Andy Holloway]

Rising stars of the.

[Jason Moore]

Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Why don't you go first?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm doing a little hanging. Whoa. I'm hanging with Mr. Cooper. Mari Cooper is my rising star. Look, last week I talked about how, you know, my mind wanted one thing, but my body was telling me something else.

[Mike Wright]

You were so hesitant. You were so hesitant to started like you couldn't even get the words out.

[Andy Holloway]

My body. My body.

[Jason Moore]

It's funny, I thought that was just the. But my body part and I just had to let the whole thing play.

[Andy Holloway]

But my body is telling me yes. With Amari Cooper, you've got five receptions and six receptions. Enough volume, enough work. With Zeke getting going in the passing game, we were talking about that. The offense looks like it's, it's less inept, which is great. But he is the clear cut, you know, primary wide receiver and he's looked good in that, in that system. He's looked good for Dak. And if you look at their upcoming schedule, games against Atlanta, New Orleans, Indianapolis, Tampa Bay, I mean, those are just, they're going to need to throw the ball. He looks like the primary guy. So I am rising on Amari Cooper, without a doubt.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, I'm terrified of yours.

[Andy Holloway]

I am as well.

[Jason Moore]

Look, I get it and I think I oppose, but go on.

[Mike Wright]

Well, you can oppose, but this is, I'm bringing him up because you got to add him. I don't know if we can start him yet, but Rashad Penny, I, look, I get it, but he was 12 for one away with a touchdown and then he had the full peach cobbler support after the game saying that's the player that we drafted. He's going to be in a platoon no matter what. This will never be the Rashad Penny show. But what is, what is the actual status of Chris Carson? How banged up is he?

[Andy Holloway]

Chris Carson is a Seattle running back, meaning you will never know. And he'll be a game time decision and get 30 carries or he'll be a game time decision and get nothing. I mean, my worry and obviously I'm a piece huge. Rashad Penny, truth or from the draft? I mean, he was my favorite running back, not named Saquon. You know, him and Carry on were like my two guys. I think the talent is there. I just can't trust Pete Carroll. And Pete Carroll's support means nothing because he supports all of his players.

[Mike Wright]

Touche, touche.

[Andy Holloway]

His players are the best.

[Mike Wright]

But he, I mean, he got just as much work as Mike Davis. Not in the passing game, but on the ground. Had a lot of success.

[Andy Holloway]

He looked great.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, and he did. He looked fantastic. I'm just, I've got him in this section because I think that he is a primary pickup at the running back position. If he is available on your waivers, we will have to see how the news trends to see if you can play him or not.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to put David Johnson in here. David Johnson with the monster game. Look, for weeks at least, I've been saying, I think these guys have echoed the fact that if you could have acquired him, I mean, last week we talked about it on the show. Jordan Howard, right. Like, I mean, you could get David Johnson without paying the David Johnson price. For the past few weeks, he is a dual threat running back. And I know that offense is inept, but the Cardinals actually had a pretty good showing. They held the Chiefs to their lowest point total of the six. They were competitive in this game for quite some time. And that's not to say they're going to be a winning team, but if their defense can contain people, David Johnson is going to get as much opportunity as he got this week. This is much more of a template to the rest of the season. With Byron Leftwich at offensive coordinator, the passing targets for David Johnson. David Johnson could end up winning people. Leagues certainly could in the end when they didn't expect it after the bad start to the season. This is a big difference. We're seeing the difference in offensive coordinator in Cleveland and the way it affects that offense. We're seeing it in Arizona and the way it affects David Johnson directly. If you call different plays with very talented players, you get more opportunity. And that's what we're seeing with David Johnson. So he is a rising star. For me.

[Andy Holloway]

It makes sense. Coming off the by nine targets. It's what we used to see with an offensive coordinator from what system we used to see. And his upcoming playoff schedule is great. Detroit, Atlanta and then the Rams where in the passing game he should still have a good game.

[Mike Wright]

It's amazing and maddening how much coaching affects fantasy football players. I mean from the absolute demise of Todd Gurley in his second year with Jeff Fisher. David Johnson, if the Arizona Cardinals had not fired Mike McCoy. David Johnson, in my opinion, you just chalk it up. He would be a massive bust, a write off this season.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no doubt. You see Trubisky, his assistant. Exactly Those offense, by the way, Rising stars brought to you by fantasychamps.com that is a domain you want to just remember. Bookmark. That is a brand you want to remember. Because as soon as someone wins a title, you can go get yourself a trophy. You can get yourself a ring. They have rings with ring cases. Custom engraved. And these are metal engravings. These are not cheap engravings. This is the best place to get trophies, rings, custom jerseys. Every award you could use for a fantasy league, you just go to fantasy champs.

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[Andy Holloway]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I'm going to read a few quarterback pooped in their pants names and I want you guys to tell me who you're most concerned about. Andy Dalton, Tom Brady, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Derek Carr. What do you think?

[Andy Holloway]

Brady?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Brady is the big one. Dalton, I wasn't expecting very much from this week. Tom Brady is the biggest big. The biggest question of these guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Brady has one touchdown pass in his last three games and he hasn't looked great.

[Jason Moore]

Let's be clear about that. That's one touchdown pass total. Not one per game, right? One total.

[Andy Holloway]

He's averaging a third of a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

There you go. Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

And I want you guys as a second set of eyeballs for me when I've been watching. Tom Brady doesn't look great. His passes aren't on point like what we're used to seeing. Do you guys see. See that or. I'm. I'm really stupid.

[Jason Moore]

He looks.

[Mike Wright]

I think he actually looks okay. But the offensive line is.

[Jason Moore]

It's been sacked seven times.

[Mike Wright]

Is causing some problems for Tom Brady. And what we know about Tom is you get him one good lick in a game and he is an Eminem, he just absolutely crumbles and starts panicking and freaking out.

[Jason Moore]

So the previous, before these past three games where he had 10 touchdowns in the previous four games, his completion percentage in all those games, 65. 77. 68. 69 in his last three games. His completion percentage, 64%. 62 and down to 51 in the Tennessee game. So there has been a statistical, you know, it's more than just the touchdowns now getting Gronk back.

[Mike Wright]

They're really hoping that Gronk is ready after the buy.

[Jason Moore]

And then Edelman's banged up Right now we. I don't. Did we touch on that in the news, Brooks? No, we skipped that. Julian Edelman left the game with an ankle injury and we don't have a further report. So we will keep you up to date and what's going on with Edelman, but that is a cause for concern. They force fed Sony Michel in this game to. To Tom Brady's detriment because he didn't have James White on the field. I think that's why you saw the completion percentage. So terrible is he did not have the reliable outlet that he needed. And you know, moving into running backs, James White, Sony Michelle, they both stunk it up. The question that people have is what happened? Well, did you see the game score? I mean, that's what happened. They got beat.

[Mike Wright]

Yep, that's exactly what happened. And for Ryan Fitzpatrick, if you were disappointed, the dude threw for over 400 yards. This is why the touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

403 yards.

[Mike Wright]

The touchdown is so incredibly powerful for fantasy football when a quarterback can throw for 400 yards. He did have two interceptions and a fumble. Oh, yeah, and the fumble. But the fact that if he had no. No touchdowns means he pooped his pants. I mean, that's. That's insanity.

[Jason Moore]

It's the most. I believe they had the most yards as a team with three or fewer points since 1960.

[Mike Wright]

That makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

Honestly, when I. When I saw that stat, I was shocked that it wasn't of all time. I can't believe there was a game in the 60s where they had three or fewer points with more yards than. What happened. I don't even know how it's possible. Breaking news.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's a good one.

[Andy Holloway]

Huge news.

[Jason Moore]

Do I need to find the mediocre signing?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there you go.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a little bit more accurate. We had it.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, I don't think we have it right now. Brandon Marshall signing a one year deal with the New Orleans Saints to replace Des Bryant.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you interested?

[Jason Moore]

No, not.

[Mike Wright]

Well, maybe if you.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe somehow I'm not interested. But it. It's interesting that Traquan had zero production in this last game. So am I interested? No. Am I interested in Trey Kwan? No.

[Mike Wright]

Brandon Marshall might be on your waiver wire in a dynasty league. That's probably the only place I'm interested in just throwing him on the huge bench just in case.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Did some did with someone pick him up in our league?

[Jason Moore]

No. I don't know. I thought that's what you were inserting.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, I was. I was not.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, well, Yeah, I should add him in that league if he is Mike, because all of my players go out every single week.

[Mike Wright]

They do.

[Jason Moore]

I don't have anybody left. I'm sure he's being owned though. Yeah, he's. He's on.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Thank goodness. Jordan Howard, Marlon Mack, Kenyan Drake Tevin Coleman, Edo Smith. Bad games for all five of those guys. Who are you most concerned about, man?

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Howard. Was he one of the five you just read off?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he was. I actually have.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, wait, are you on? Are you finally on board?

[Jason Moore]

No, I have a clip from the. I got some highlights.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's hear it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no, here's the highlight clip.

[Andy Holloway]

There it is. Yeah, I was waiting 11 carries for 21 yards. That is some inefficient running. And what's crazy is this offense is clicking. This offense is manufacturing scores left, right and center.

[Mike Wright]

Here's the thing, they were last week.

[Jason Moore]

Too, and he got two touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

We know. What we know about Jordan Howard is he's going to be the primary runner. So if it's a positive game script for the run and say the Chicago Bears are up like multi touchdowns against a very inferior rush defense, then Jordan Howard is going to get it done.

[Jason Moore]

Like yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, like yesterday against the Detroit Lions when they were up massive and Jordan Howard got 11 carries.

[Andy Holloway]

I, I am concerned alert. I am concerned with it. But I don't think you should crazy overreact to this because I mean you are doing probabilities. You know, this is still double digit carries. It didn't, it certainly didn't work out. I mean he was a huge pooper. Without a doubt. But I mean are, you can't just go away from a guy getting double digit carries in a good offense.

[Jason Moore]

It's all about expectation. And Mike and I last week we said the same thing. I mean Jordan Howard is, he's touchdown or bust. Yeah. And he's, he's, you know, a flex running back.

[Mike Wright]

Jordan Howard.

[Jason Moore]

I'd rather have Tariqan Severe.

[Mike Wright]

Hold your noses. Jordan Howard right now is Isaiah Crowell. Double digit carries, I mean you can, you can make the exact same narrative for Crowell. If he scores, you're super happy. If not, you got a guy who carried the ball 12 times for about 40 yards.

[Jason Moore]

What if you say it in, in reverse, does that make Crowell feel good?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think. Howard, what do you think about this Marlon Mack game? I mean 12 for 29 Jaguars. Yeah, but I mean just, they were up big in this game. Just 12 touches on the ground.

[Mike Wright]

Jaguars.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it was A Jaguars thing. And the fact that Marlon Mack's not a tight end certainly hurts him with Andrew Lock, I think that's one of the biggest problems.

[Jason Moore]

People were very unhappy with Tevin Coleman, as was Some people said that if you're bad for Christmas, they'll leave you Coleman under the tree.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, boo.

[Jason Moore]

You open up.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Coleman.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Coleman.

[Mike Wright]

He got a little bit shook early on in the game, so I'm assuming that had something to do with it because he was 11 for 44, got stuffed on the goal line. I was expecting much, much better things from Coleman.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it was weird for the entire Falcons team. I mean, true. It was so bizarre. I mean they just, they got their tail handed.

[Jason Moore]

They had a road poop by the Browns. Yeah, they went on the road and took a dump. Collaborated. There you go. Wide receivers of Concern, Mike Evans, 3 for 51. Jarvis Landry, just 2 for 22 in that win. Devin Funches, 3 for 32. Doug Baldwin, 5 for 39. Doug Baldwin, you need to move on. And then Alshon, last week's pump the brakes, 4 for 48. Golden Tay, just 2 for 19. He was barely on the field in the second half. He does not have enough reps with that team and Trey Kwan's goose. What do you, what's your biggest concern here?

[Andy Holloway]

I think the biggest concern is Baldwin because he's the biggest letdown. He's a guy that you still keep on your roster or this last week. I'm sure many people found him on the waivers and picked him up. And it's one of those like, I think your team's probably better off not having him. That's not to say he can't have big games. Have a good second half of the season if things turn around. Russell Wilson looked very good. He was running around scrambling a little bit more this last week. But in a game where he was playing well, where Russell threw for touchdowns and scrambled around, you still only had 39 yards from for Doug Baldwin. And more often than not he's going to hurt you more than help you. So I would, I would get him off your roster.

[Mike Wright]

I want to talk about Jarvis game.

[Jason Moore]

Since he's returned, he's been worth nothing.

[Mike Wright]

Want to talk about Jarvis because we have two games with the new offensive philosophy and in those games Jarvis Landry has seven targets and five targets and before that he had six straight double digit target games. And if you haven't paid attention, Baker Mayfield is playing a lot better. I think he, I saw the stat of he's the first rookie to Have a perfect passer rating while throwing the ball more than 20 times in a game this past week.

[Andy Holloway]

His third down completion percentage, I believe was the highest in the league as well.

[Mike Wright]

So, I mean, Dan Jarvis is not having huge success. Meanwhile, the Cleveland Browns are starting to have success.

[Jason Moore]

He's in that. I mean, essentially you got to look at him as the flex category. I mean, you have a ton of teams on by next week. The 49ers, Bills, Browns, the Browns are on by. Jets and Patriots are all on by next week. So when you are listening to analysis of the good and bad on this show and into tomorrow's show, keep in mind that you have a lot of players on by. And it's not that you. I mean, with a lot of these players, it's not that you can't get a great week out of them. Right. You can get a great week out of Tyrell Williams, you can get a great week out of Jarvis Landry, Calvin Ridley, they happen, but they also can lay an egg. And that's why reliability is such a difficult thing to acquire at the position. You can play the matchup, but you get some pretty rough games. So tight ends, everyone wants to know what in the world to do with O.J. howard, the one for 15, and David and Joku, just one for 18. So in a game where Baker was great, Jarvis and Njoku, who you would assume are by far the best pass catching options he has combined for three total catches.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And now they're going into the bye week. Do you just move on as a fantasy owner? Are you holding David and Joku through the buy or are you moving on from David and Joku entirely?

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Because I think you have to do the latter. I think you have to let him go through the buy.

[Andy Holloway]

You probably do in the sense that, I mean, a lot of this depends on your roster, your bench size, things like that. It's hard to hold two tight ends this time of year. So really, if you've got a burner spot, hold on to them. But if you need to move on, I would not be. I wouldn't be holding David and Joku and dropping an important wide receiver or running back. I would. I would agree with Andy in those situations.

[Jason Moore]

Jimmy Graham, just one catch this week. Hey, O.J. howard. Jimmy Graham. You prefer Howard rest of season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it sucked. That sucks. 15 yards when your quarterback throws for over four hundo, that really, really sucks. But you just gotta accept that. Take the L this week.

[Jason Moore]

Cody Parkey, the kicker.

[Mike Wright]

Wait, we're talking about kickers?

[Jason Moore]

Well, for a minute because he converted two of four extra points and missed two field goals. That's a bad day at the office.

[Mike Wright]

Is he still employed?

[Jason Moore]

As far as I know, I had someone. He's as employed as baby Josh is.

[Andy Holloway]

I had someone tweet me that they started the jets and Cody Parkey.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

At their kicker and defense. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

If you started the Jets D or the Pats D this week, you did not get what you had bargained for.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, I started the Pats D. Everything was all right for this guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think that had more to do with the other players you played, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Perhaps.

[Jason Moore]

But look, there are no guarantees in fantasy football or life, for that matter.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, that is it for today's episode. Again, happy Veterans Day to everybody. We'll be back tomorrow with some waiver wire and Monday Night Football feedback.

[Mike Wright]

We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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