Week 11 Matchups + In-or-Out, Magic Eye Jealousy

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Week 11 Matchups + In-or-Out, Magic Eye Jealousy
Release Date: November 15, 2019

In this comprehensive episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright dive deep into Week 11’s most critical fantasy football matchups, analyze recent game highlights, and provide strategic insights to help listeners optimize their fantasy lineups. The episode also introduces tweaks to their popular "In-or-Out" segment and engages in lively discussions that blend expert analysis with entertaining banter.

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1. Week 11 Game Highlights and Key Incidents

The episode kicks off with a reflection on last week's standout events, notably the controversial play involving Miles Garrett and Mason Rudolph.

• Incident Breakdown:
  • Andy Holloway recaps the altercation:

    "[03:55] Miles Garrett tackles Mason Rudolph, sacks him a little bit, gave him a little bit of extra oomph for a game that was already over. It caused a ruckus and a melee."

  • Mike Wright emphasizes the rarity of such actions:

    "[03:56] Garrett from the bottom... This is the first time I've seen a helmet taken off and used as a weapon."

  • Jason Moore expresses concern over Garrett’s future:

    "[04:33] Put him in jail, put him in prison. He is going to be in trouble, no question."

The trio discusses the significant impact of the incident on both team dynamics and fantasy football lineups, highlighting the potential suspension and its ramifications.

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2. Baker Mayfield and the Browns’ Performance

Baker Mayfield continues to exceed expectations, bolstering his value in fantasy leagues.

• Continuous Improvement:
  • Andy Holloway praises Mayfield’s streak:

    "[05:40] Baker Mayfield had himself a good fantasy outing. He's kind of recovering... three straight games in a row now for Baker that things have been outperforming expectations."

  • Jason Moore underscores the importance of Mayfield's consistency:

    "[05:40] We can't comprehend how you get to the point with five seconds left in a game you're winning to lose control like that."

The hosts analyze the Browns’ defensive strength and the implications of injuries to key players like James Conner, JuJu Smith-Schuster, and Deontay Johnson, advising fantasy managers to consider these factors when setting their lineups.

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3. In-or-Out Segment: Updated Strategy and Player Decisions

The "In-or-Out" segment is revamped to focus on major injury updates and their direct impact on fantasy decisions.

• Marquise 'Hollywood' Brown ([10:36] - [11:00]):

  • Jason Moore highlights Brown’s absence from practice:

    "[10:36] Marquise 'Hollywood' Brown didn’t practice Thursday. Do you believe he's in?"

  • Andy Holloway advises starting him if he’s active:

    "[17:34] Decision time, I like your thought process there. I would lean Singletary though."

• David Montgomery ([10:36] - [11:25]):

  • Jason Moore discusses Montgomery’s ankle injury:

    "[11:25] David Montgomery went down with an ankle, a rolled ankle, on Wednesday."

  • Mike Wright recommends pivoting away for safety:

    "[11:25] If you're a David Montgomery owner and I can pivot, I would."

• Emmanuel Sanders ([11:25] - [12:04]):

  • Jason Moore debates Sanders’ rib injury:

    "[11:57] Emmanuel Sanders, in or out with the rib injury?"

  • Andy Holloway acknowledges his return if cleared:

    "[11:58] He'll play, he'll play."

• Alshon Jeffrey ([12:04] - [13:20]):

  • Jason Moore opts to exclude Jeffrey:

    "[12:04] Alshon Jeffrey out of my lineup."

• Jordan Howard ([12:04] - [13:20]):

  • Mike Wright discusses Howard’s stinger injury:

    "[12:23] Jordan Howard is dealing with the Stinger and hasn't been cleared for contact."

The hosts emphasize the importance of monitoring injury updates and making informed decisions to safeguard fantasy lineups from potential losses.

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4. Fantasy Forecast: Strategic Player Recommendations

Delving into the fantasy forecasts, the hosts provide detailed analyses and starting/sitting recommendations for upcoming Week 11 matchups across various teams.

• Bills vs. Dolphins ([14:14] - [19:08]):

  • Josh Allen vs. Ryan Fitzpatrick:

    "[15:26] Josh Allen taking on Ryan Fitzpatrick in yet another revenge game."

  • Running Backs:
    • Devin Singletary vs. Brian Hill
      • Mike Wright:

        "[16:22] I like both players, so I'm going to take the more talented one, which is Devin Singletary."

      • Jason Moore:

        "[17:08] I believe that Brian Hill is safer than Devin Singletary for volume."

  • Recommendation: Opt for Singletary for upside or Hill for safer volume depending on team needs.

• Saints vs. Buccaneers ([22:34] - [25:40]):

  • Wide Receivers:
    • Mike Evans and Chris Godwin stand out as solid starts.
  • Tight Ends:
    • Darren Waller is highlighted as a key play despite recent volatility.
  • Running Backs:
    • Ronald Jones discussed as a reliable option over inconsistent performers like Sony Michel.
  • Recommendation: Prioritize Evans, Godwin, and Waller for their consistent performance and favorable matchups.

• Cardinals vs. 49ers ([27:07] - [30:36]):

  • Quarterbacks:
    • Jimmy Garoppolo is recommended over Kyler Murray due to the 49ers’ strong defensive performance.
  • Wide Receivers:
    • Gerald Everett and Robert Woods should be considered in favorable matchups.
  • Recommendation: Start Garoppolo and focus on receivers with favorable defensive matchups like Everett.

• Patriots vs. Eagles ([31:18] - [40:53]):

  • Tight Ends:
    • Dallas Goddard vs. O.J. Howard – Goddard is favored.
  • Running Backs:
    • Ronald Jones is preferred for volume and consistent targets.
  • Recommendation: Lean towards Goddard for TE slots and Jones for RB positions to exploit the Eagles’ vulnerable secondary.

• Raiders vs. Bengals ([36:40] - [40:53]):

  • Quarterbacks:
    • Derek Carr is a strong start over inconsistent options like Philip Rivers.
  • Tight Ends:
    • Darren Waller is recommended despite recent performance dips.
  • Running Backs:
    • Josh Jacobs is a reliable start due to the Bengals’ weak rush defense.
  • Recommendation: Favor Carr and Jacobs to capitalize on favorable defensive matchups.

• Chargers vs. Chiefs ([48:48] - [50:01]):

  • Running Backs:
    • Tevin Coleman vs. Brian Hill – Coleman is recommended despite previous underperformance.
  • Wide Receivers:
    • Keenan Allen is expected to break out with consistent target shares.
  • Recommendation: Start Coleman for RB and Keenan Allen for WR to exploit the Chiefs’ run defense vulnerabilities.

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5. Ballers on a Budget: Optimizing Lineups with Limited Resources

The "Ballers on a Budget" segment highlights cost-effective players who can deliver solid fantasy points without breaking the bank.

• Jason Moore’s Picks:

  • Dallas Goddard at 5,000 Buckaroos:

    "[55:25] I went Goddard."

• Mike Wright’s Picks:

  • Calvin Ridley at 5,500 Buckaroos:

    "[56:47] Calvin Ridley has the ability to be a top five wide receiver."

  • John Brown at 5,900 Buckaroos:

    "[56:47] John Brown... a great chance at a touchdown here."

• Andy Holloway’s Picks:

  • Raheem Mostert at 4,600 Buckaroos:

    "[57:23] Raheem the sneaky start Mostert... a free square this week to unlock..."

The hosts emphasize flexibility and strategic spending, encouraging listeners to balance budget constraints with high-upside plays.

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6. Concluding Insights and Community Engagement

Wrapping up, the hosts promote their fantasy football community on Discord and encourage listeners to participate in their leaderboard series on FanDuel. They reinforce the importance of staying informed through their game day live updates and maintaining an active presence in their shared fantasy community.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Mike Wright [03:02]:

  "Whenever there's an event that happens, that has never... It's a wow moment."

• Jason Moore [04:43]:

  "And Baker, you know, Baker came out and Baker was shook."

• Andy Holloway [17:34]:

  "Decision time, I like your thought process there. I would lean Singletary though."

• Mike Wright [28:12]:

  "I would love to play Derek Carr. If you have Derek Carr, please cut."

• Jason Moore [32:24]:

  "They're like the football equivalent of a magic eye puzzle."

• Mike Wright [35:03]:

  "Yes. Yes."

These quotes encapsulate the hosts' candid and analytical approach, offering listeners both expertise and relatable commentary.

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Final Thoughts

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast serves as an invaluable resource for fantasy managers navigating the complexities of Week 11. Through in-depth analysis, strategic recommendations, and engaging discussions, Andy, Jason, and Mike equip their audience with the knowledge needed to make informed decisions and gain a competitive edge in their leagues. Whether you're contemplating starting em up emerging players or dealing with unexpected injuries, this episode provides the insights necessary to craft a winning fantasy lineup.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from Pristine Auction.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, welcome in. What a night we had. Friday, November 15th, the fantasy footballers. We've got a jam packed show.

[Andy Holloway]

Was that a proclamation of like the future of what a night we had? But the night hasn't happened?

[Jason Moore]

Nope. It was more a reflection on last night. And look, we. We're in week 11 and I want to, I want to set the table here. We're in Arizona. We don't move our clocks, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

We're one of the us in what? Hawaii. We don't have daylight savings time.

[Andy Holloway]

I hear Illinois is on the way.

[Jason Moore]

Are they really?

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I hear.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I'm not going to get into that. That's for spitballers. But the daylight savings thing, that happened during the war and we just keep doing it, but we don't move our clocks. And so when everyone else does out here, the games are on an hour later. And so look, our families are so supportive of this show. We do the show every single day. We do extra shows. We do the serious show. We're busy during the season and sometimes it's. It's hard. Like, my wife understands I gotta watch these, these evening games at home, but I feel for her.

[Mike Wright]

It's work, honey.

[Jason Moore]

And I do. Yeah. And that's how I say it, right? Very solemnly, because I, you know, daddy has to work. I'm in the coal mines every Monday night, Thursday night. But I, you know, it was getting late last night. It's 21 to 7 and there's two minutes left in the game. And I'm like, let's. I'm a cut and run here. We're gonna watch a show together. I get into bed, I pull up the. I'll check slack one more time. What? Miles. Holy on earth.

[Andy Holloway]

Crap.

[Jason Moore]

Not what I expected to find.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was, it was insane. I mean, I was just blown away. I was shook a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

I remember you were tilting unbelievably towards what had happened.

[Mike Wright]

Ten minutes afterwards, I'm still sitting on my couch, kind of just taking it all in. And it's weird. I wasn't, like, emotional about it.

[Jason Moore]

Weeping.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I was weeping, but it was just like, man, I just couldn't believe what I saw. I couldn't believe it. And I wanted to know every ounce of information about it from every player and every. You know, it's just. It's just such a crazy thing. Whenever there's an event that happens, that has never. Nothing like that's ever happened before in sports. It's a wow. It's a wow moment.

[Andy Holloway]

There were probably people out there who. They still haven't seen it. If you missed the end of the game, it was already out of hand. Miles Garrett tackles Mason Rudolph, sacks Mason Rudolph a little bit, gave him a little bit of extra oomph for a game that was already over a. It caused a ruckus and a melee. Then Mason Rudolph kind of tries to rip off Miles Garrett his. Rip his helmet off, to which then.

[Mike Wright]

Garrett from the bottom.

[Andy Holloway]

From the bottom, from which Garrett then pulls Rudolph up by his face mask, takes his helmet off, and eventually swings Rudolph's helmet like a weapon at Rudolph, hits him on the head. Fortunately, for really everybody involved, it was not the actual crown of the helmet. But this is the first time I've seen a helmet taken off and used as a weapon.

[Jason Moore]

That's the summation of what happened. It was insane. I did find Twitter to be Twitter.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

Because it was like, you know, it was like a competition of how much punishment Miles Garrett deserved.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Five, seven games his whole season, two seasons. Put him in jail, put him in prison.

[Andy Holloway]

He is going to be in trouble, no question.

[Jason Moore]

And Baker, you know, Baker came out and Baker was shook. Baker's interview was as transparent as he could be. He didn't equivocate. And some may say, well, you should have. You know, your teammates are going to like that you were just open and honest with what happened. Whatever. I mean, this goes beyond the scope of protective leadership at the quarterback position. This goes into the realm of exactly what Baker said, which was, you know, this is inexcusable. Inexcusable. And in beyond a rivalry, it endangers the other team. It. We can't comprehend, we were talking before the show, how you get to the point with five seconds left in a game you're winning to lose control like that. And I liked Miles Garrett before this incident. He was more of the mild mannered. See him on Hard Knocks teaching the other players in a very mild mannered way. He's kind of wired differently. He lost his cool. He'll pay the price. And for fantasy purposes, you know, it's not much of a tale, but my goodness, what a. What an evening.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, for fantasy purposes, we've been talking about picking up the Browns defense. They looked good tonight. They've got a stretch run of great games. Now. You're definitely going to be without Garrett. You could end up being without other players too.

[Andy Holloway]

But to speak to the actual game, Baker Mayfield had himself a good fantasy outing. He's kind of recovering. This is three straight games in a row now for Baker that things have outperforming expectations.

[Mike Wright]

The wide receiver one for the Browns is continuing to come through.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, very nice.

[Mike Wright]

Jarvis has another good game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's amazing how Odell can manage to piece together a 60 yard game no matter when, when his targets come. Started the game on fire. And then, yeah, the touchdowns, they were there for. Baker got it done. Heck of a touchdown catch by Carlson. And before he got pummeled, Mason Rudolph was unequivocally awful. And Jason brought this up yesterday. He found a little stat nugget that was insane and he brought it up on the SiriusXM show, which is that other than I think game one, his.

[Mike Wright]

His first start was in San Francisco on the road.

[Jason Moore]

Mason Rudolph.

[Mike Wright]

Mason Rudolph. And then he's played seven games now and well, now eight. And that was the other six games were all at home. He had not really gone to the road. This was his second road game in seven games having been played. He was six at home, one on the road. And this is why Vegas had the line with the Browns winning. Mason Rudolph is terrible. And if the Browns get up, there's no way he could come back. And then the Browns lose James Conner.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll say James Conner's pretty.

[Mike Wright]

And they lose JuJu Smith, Schuster and Deontay. And they lose Deontay Johnson. It was a wicked night.

[Jason Moore]

The exact worry I brought up on serious was if the Browns get up 10, nothing, I think the game's over.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Because Mason can't will them back. And we also now maybe we examine this before we move on to the rest of the show. But it hasn't paid off to jump right back in post injury on anyone lately. David Johnson, DeSean Jackson, Adam Thielen, now James Conner, the AC, joint injury. We talked about it early in the week. That's a risk. You knew it was a risk with the shoulder and here we are.

[Mike Wright]

So I had the exact same thought that you're having when it comes to Emmanuel Sanders. Right. Emmanuel Sanders leaves the game. He was injured. Now he's coming back. I think he's going to play this week, but maybe that's just not worth the risk. Even though he torched the Cardinals a few weeks ago. Maybe you say, I've got another good option. Let me wait for these guys to be healthy versus trying to call my shot and get their first game back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then maybe that brings up Austin Hooper for the playoff run if he's out three or four games. We talked about that a little bit yesterday, too. Do you have the trust to hold Hooper and play him right away in your fantasy playoffs?

[Mike Wright]

The.

[Jason Moore]

This gets a little. It gets a little dice. You don't want to miss the upside. It's hard for you to be in that situation, but it's what it is. So it is Friday.

[Mike Wright]

Foot Clan Friday.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Every Friday. We want to say thank you to those of you that support the [e-mail] our fantasy football community. We actually just added a fantasy footballers Discord server. So if you want to, we have the forums that you get access to. But if you want to interact in real time with a community of over 7000amazing people, check it out. It's pretty cool.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm told it's lit.

[Mike Wright]

I'm in there.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, then it's off the chain.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it is. As honestly, and I'm not, I don't want to overstate this, but it is as good as my Instagram game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, your Instagram game is real anticipatory.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, just wait, man. Ryan, I've been working hard on this post.

[Jason Moore]

Congratulations, Foot Clan Friday winner, Ryan Bangerter. That's a unique last name. You win $55 to shopballers.com let's go ahead and get into the news and we're going to be modifying, tweaking the in and out segment a little bit. I wanted to let people know that because we record the show Friday morning, you still got Friday afternoon practices and because we put up game day alerts on Sunday, Mike is live every Sunday morning an hour before game time with injury updates. We're going to try to focus this down into the core big time injury news, making our projections just on those guys. And then we're going to, you know, if you follow us on social media, like I said, the game day [e-mail] you'll get updates on some of the middling players at that point. So without further ado, what's it going to be?

[Mike Wright]

Me Fly. Are you in or out?

[Jason Moore]

Just a few big names. Marquise, Hollywood Brown. Didn't practice Thursday.

[Andy Holloway]

Never practices.

[Jason Moore]

Do you believe he's in?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I know.

[Jason Moore]

So you'd start him right now? Make the start declaration.

[Mike Wright]

If he's in, I start him.

[Jason Moore]

David Montgomery went down with an ankle, a rolled ankle, on Wednesday, defined as a lightly rolled, but didn't practice Thursday. Our own Matthew Betts has concerns about his availability.

[Andy Holloway]

I do too.

[Jason Moore]

And if you're. Mike, absolutely does. And for good reason. He plays Sunday Night Football. And you, if you don't want to mess with injury, it's not like Montgomery is a guarantee to get you production. If you need to pivot for safety purposes, I think you just do it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And that's my plan. If I'm a David Montgomery owner and I can pivot, I would. Mike, I assume since Raheem Moster is your start of the week, if Breida is out and Montgomery is active, who are you playing between? Mostert. Yeah. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Like Montgomery, it's not just availability, it's re injury risk and he's going to be heavily taped. But I'm not playing in this week.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you've seen how good David Johnson's been with a bum ankle, right? Real good.

[Jason Moore]

Emmanuel Sanders, in or out with the rib injury?

[Andy Holloway]

He'll play, he'll play.

[Mike Wright]

But I mean, who's to say he doesn't take another roll up hit and have to leave the game? So if you can pivot. Pivot.

[Jason Moore]

Alshon Jeffrey. He did not practice on Thursday and head coach Doug Peterson says pretty iffy for Sunday's game against New England. This has been the story for Alshon Jeffrey over the last few years. It's just kind of doesn't seem to recover quick and deals with injuries for a prolonged period of time. In or out? Alshon Jeffrey out of my lineup.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, he's a borderline guy. If he's healthy against the New England Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I'm not starting against the Patriots.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. This could end up being a blessing in disguise for fantasy owners that are forced to look elsewhere.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, fair point. Jordan Howard as well on the Eagles dealing with the Stinger has not been cleared for contact. We also know Darren Sprolz is now out for the rest of the season. So Jay Ajayi visited. Whether that's just the emergency list or the bottom of the depth chart, Jordan Howard seems very. Iffy for a New England matchup there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would. I mean, it's, it's too early to know, but the, the way it's being reported about Jay Ajayi going back, it looks like there's a real shot. They sign him. And when I heard, okay, Darren Sprouls looks like his career is done. They're bringing in Jay Ajai. My first thought was, what a weird comp. Like you've got your third down, scat back weapon. He goes down and you bring in Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, it's a torn right hip flexor.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And so that leads me to believe that they might be worried they're without Jordan Howard.

[Andy Holloway]

If he's not clear for contact, he's got a football game in two days.

[Jason Moore]

Is it a. Is it a contact game?

[Andy Holloway]

I've been told.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Based on last night, it is a very context game.

[Jason Moore]

All right, and then what do you think about Matthew Stafford this week? He remains sidelined at Thursday's practice. Is not turning the right way. Do you think he's in or out?

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's out.

[Mike Wright]

I think he's out as well. And that Vegas line, in my opinion, really needs to update because this seems way too high if Stafford is not playing.

[Jason Moore]

All right, like I said, game day alerts. JoinTheFoot.com Mike's live on Sunday morning on all of our social media. You can catch it on twitter @the ffballers, on the YouTube channel. News and notes is always brought to you by the sleeper app. Let's get back into the forecast.

[Mike Wright]

Fantasy forecast.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, in what to speak to what you just said, I'm looking and like Caesars have, they've pulled the point spread.

[Mike Wright]

Ah.

[Andy Holloway]

For the Detroit.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would have expected that too. If you get this late in the week.

[Mike Wright]

So find one that hasn't.

[Andy Holloway]

If you got in and got in on that under, Congratulations.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think it'll be Driscoll. All right. Yesterday we talked about the Cowboys, Lions, Jags, Colts, Broncos, Vikings, Texans, Ravens, Jets, Redskins, Falcons, Panthers. Seven matchups remaining on today's show, starting with the Bills at the Miami Dolphins. Dolphins are two and seven, bills are six and three. Bills are six and a half point road favorites. It's a 41 point over under. And here we are, Mike, start of the week, Josh Allen taking on Ryan Fitzpatrick in yet another revenge game. All of his games are revenge games.

[Andy Holloway]

But I feel like this is the real one. When I think of Ryan Fitzpatrick, I still think of him as the Buffalo Bills.

[Jason Moore]

Does he remember that he played for the Does Fitzpatrick, does he even recall those days?

[Mike Wright]

Who do you associate him most with? Where did. Where was his peak?

[Jason Moore]

Cincinnati.

[Mike Wright]

Really? What? I go. Jets. What?

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

This is why revenge game works on levels.

[Andy Holloway]

I won a championship. Streaming. Streaming him.

[Jason Moore]

How about Houston? How about Houston?

[Mike Wright]

What?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. All right. The number one most asked start sit question of the entire week. We've got the start sit tool on the website. The number one question is involves the Bills backfield, Devin Singletary, whether you'd play Devon Singletary this week over Brian Hill, free agent darling pickup at Carolina, singletary the last three weeks 72%, 69%, 68% of snapshot. Miami is allowing the fourth most rushing yards in the NFL as well as big plays. So where do you go with that number one most asked question?

[Mike Wright]

So for me, I look at these, these are two good matchups. Carolina is a bad rushing defense for Brian Hill and the Miami Dolphins are a bad rushing defense. While I do think Brian Hill gets a little bit more work than Devon Singletary because there's not as many people around, they're both going to get enough work to do business. I like both players, so I'm going to take the more talented one, which is Devin Singletary. Devin Singletary has been electric in his short career. Really the only time that he is disappointed on a per touch basis was only this last week. And I think that's just the recency bias where it's like, oh no, he had a down week and so I worry I can't play him. I'm sticking with the Singletary, but I like Hill a lot this week.

[Jason Moore]

I believe that Brian Hill is safer than Devin Singletary for volume. For volume. I believe that he's safer. So if you need an upside play, Singletary is more talented. I think you got the big play opportunity, the passing game opportunity. I think Brian Hill's a little bit safer. Mike, where do you lean on that.

[Andy Holloway]

Decision, Eileen, that I like your, your thought process there. I would lean Singletary though.

[Mike Wright]

It's. It's really close. I like both guys. They're. They are back to back in my rankings.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Kalen Balaj on the other side, he is 100% on the Miami Dolphins.

[Andy Holloway]

He is somewhat interesting to me because the one place you can beat Buffalo is on the ground. They are 24th against fantasy running backs. And Caleb Bellage, he got talk about volume. What Was he at?

[Jason Moore]

20?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, 20 carries this past week against the Colts. Even though he was very, very inefficient, I think he can have more success against his Buffalo Bills defense and has a chance to rip one off.

[Mike Wright]

You can't. You can't make me do it. You can't make me.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I'm my own person. Andy's almost upset of the week. Did you just pick the Dolphins as you're almost.

[Andy Holloway]

He picked him to cover as you're.

[Mike Wright]

What's the.

[Jason Moore]

I did. It's a six and a half point line. That's not Dolphins. I think it'll be a close game. Got the divisional game. Bill's coming off a loss at Cleveland. I haven't seen enough.

[Mike Wright]

So you are playing Balaj then? Because Parker's gonna get Trudevius White.

[Jason Moore]

He is. He is. Yeah. I. Playing Balaj means playing him in the context of what you got. So as a running back, as a flex play, sure put them out there. Guaranteed volume. I think the game hits the under. That's kind of more what I'm getting at. You know, we thought we'd see a pretty ugly game last night. That's what we got. I think this game ends up being a little uglier. Dolphins playing well. Two game winning streak, credit where credit is due. And the Bills, they don't always travel. You. You kind of get surprised by the Bills. And I like them. I want them to do well, but I think it's going to be a dog fight.

[Mike Wright]

I like a lot of the Bills. I like John Brown a lot in this game. He was my pivot. If Marquis Hollywood Brown is unable to go, he would become my start of the week. I go from Brown to Brown and I think both have a great chance at a touchdown here.

[Jason Moore]

Brown to Brown. Are you benching devonte Parker entirely because of Trudevius White?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, if I can.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, me too.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. And then Mike Gasicki, are you going back to that? Well, he's part of the barf. Part of the barf.

[Andy Holloway]

He's one of the chunks when you.

[Mike Wright]

Got to sort through vomitus. Oh, come on and find the. The piece.

[Jason Moore]

No way to talk about another human being.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, there's my ring.

[Mike Wright]

Right. That's what I was going to. There's. There's the ring. Because sometimes once you uncover it is not the ring and you go, oh, no, I just. I just.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's a gossicky.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Oh, I'm gonna go. Oh, I feel gazicky.

[Jason Moore]

You ever done that with the. You threw something away, you didn't mean to. So you decide you've made the mental dec. I'm gonna go through the trash. Like this is what I'm gonna do. I'm going to go through the trash and then not find it.

[Mike Wright]

We've all done that and then you.

[Jason Moore]

Feel just kazicky and then it's like.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's next to the trash can somewhere else.

[Andy Holloway]

It's in my hand.

[Jason Moore]

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[Jason Moore]

Saints take on the three and six buccaneers. This game's in Tampa. The saints are five and a half point favorites. It's got a beautiful 50 point over under and I think a lot of that has to do with a couple of beat up secondaries. New Orleans is going to be, I believe they're going to be without Marshawn Lattimore this week. He left early with the injury last week and he's just not going to be ready to go. And Tampa Bay, they lost a couple guys in their secondary to injury. They just cut Vernon hargraves. So the 50 point over under, I think it holds true in this one. This matchup doesn't always lead to what you expect. We've seen that in years past. But you've got a couple starts of the week. Jason's quarterback, Jameis Winston, Mike has or, I'm sorry, Jason's tight end as well, Jared Cook in this matchup. So big decisions to be made. You're playing Alvin Camara, you're playing the big boys at wide receiver. Michael Thomas. Mike Evans, who by the way, major.

[Andy Holloway]

Major upgrade from the Lattimore.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he was goosed this year by Marshawn Lattimore, by the way, Mike Evans, 16 game pace 96 for 16, 43 and 12. If you were worried at the beginning, any of those zero, any of those week two tweets about dropping him, literally, that I read. Talent rises. Yep, it's there. Mike Evans is great. Chris Godwin, by the way, on Pace for 107 receptions, 1492 yards and 10.6 touchdowns. So both guys are in your lineup. Where's the value in this game? Are you looking at an O.J. howard with that over under as interesting? Are you looking at a Treekwon smith who played 82% of snaps last week as interesting?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm not really looking at those secondary pieces. We talked about this with O.J. howard. He, he had the great game. It was my start of the week last week. I have cut him. He is available on waivers. I don't know, Andy, if you'd like to pick him up and play him against me, please do. You know, it's not to say he can't get another touchdown, but this is not the Arizona Cardinals defense. And I think with the absence of Lattimore, they're going to be able to do what they want to do, which is go with Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. I'm basically sticking with the stars here. I'm not going Latavious Murray. I'm not going because Tampa is a really, really good rush defense and, you know, at least number two in football.

[Jason Moore]

And they shut down Drake and David.

[Andy Holloway]

Johnson and with the return of Alvin Camara this past week against Atlanta, which is, I mean, should have been a nice match for the Saints, but only seven opportunities for Latavius and you brought it up, Andy.

[Mike Wright]

These matchups where it's like, okay, you've got a high scoring Saints team. They're coming off of that loss where they're. They're really going to want to just torch the Buccaneers. And the Buccaneers can put up points and they've got a bad secondary. So often this matchup disappoints because it's an interdivision. They know each other well and they can play well. I'm thrilled that Lattimore is out for fantasy purposes. Even if he's in, I mean, there's the chance with a hamstring that he, you know, he re injures himself. So that's why I think I'm sticking with the main guys. I think the biggest question, I think.

[Jason Moore]

Drew Brees has a huge week.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, huge week. I would love to play Drew Brees over my Philip Rivers. Please, someone drop Drew Brees in our league, please.

[Jason Moore]

The whole Philip Rivers thing for you is so entertaining.

[Mike Wright]

It's the worst.

[Jason Moore]

You don't want to play him? I really don't have to play him. But you really don't want to play him.

[Mike Wright]

I get to go him or Carson Wentz with maybe no El Sean against the Patriots. I can't do it.

[Jason Moore]

I love this.

[Mike Wright]

The biggest question in this game is Ronald Jones because the Saints are a great rush d. They're number three. They're only giving up 14.6 fantasy points per week. But Ronald Jones has really kind of broken out. He's been given the role. He's looked good. They're wanting to get him involved in passing and I think people who have him have started him have relied on him. What do you do if he's on your roster?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, I'm playing him over a guy like Caleb and I'm looking at the situation like Ronald Jones is not going to win me my week, but he's going to get me volume opportunity. So I'm. He's in my lineup. He looks like he's our consensus RB21. So you're looking at low end, 2, high end, 3 type of numbers.

[Mike Wright]

Ronald Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm playing him with confidence.

[Mike Wright]

Or Sony Michelle, who's been very disappointing against Philly.

[Jason Moore]

I probably like Ronald. Ronald, I would as well because I believe Arians. I believe that he's going to continue to give him targets. What he does with them, I'll never know.

[Mike Wright]

All right, last one. Ronald Jones or David Montgomery?

[Andy Holloway]

Ronald Jones. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Cardinals at 3, 6 and 1 take on the 8 and 1 49ers. This one's in San Francisco. The Cardinals Took them to the brink two weeks ago. You do have the injury concerns on the 49ers side. George Kittle had a monster game against Arizona. We don't expect him to be back out there. Emmanuel Sanders may not be out there. It's interesting. The 49ers are very heavy favorites. Ten and a half points. It's a 44 and a half point over under. I like the Cardinals to cover that. But Jimmy Garoppolo had his greatest game as a professional against Arizona in week nine. So are you expecting more of the same at home in this one?

[Mike Wright]

I definitely think you can start Jimmy Garoppolo. Arizona, even after it's gotten Patrick Peterson back, has been bad. So they were bad before it and they're bad afterwards. As far as stopping, you know, the passing positions that matter, they're literally the worst against quarterback in the league. And so I would say if you're out there in our league and you've got Jimmy Garoppolo, please drop Jimmy Garoppolo.

[Jason Moore]

I can see a theme you're really looking.

[Mike Wright]

I just don't want to play Philip Rivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you want to play Rivers or Kyler?

[Mike Wright]

Kyler Murray? That's a great question. I think I would because Kyler, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

He came out with the good game. If you do look at the old box score. Oh, two, 240 and two.

[Mike Wright]

I would go Rivers, but there was.

[Andy Holloway]

The 80 yard touchdown to Andy Isabella.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the 49ers defense is so good. It's going to be a, you know, intimidating atmosphere for Kyler Murray. I've pivoted like in, in our listener league. I'm going Kyle Allen over Kyler Murray this week. Kyler Murray and Carson Wentz are two of the most difficult starts of the week. If you're looking at them and you're like, I guess I'm going to. I have to play them, but I'm looking to pivot. I play Derek Carr over Kyler.

[Mike Wright]

I would love to play Derek Carr. If you have Derek Carr, please cut.

[Andy Holloway]

Him in five quarters. Because remember the overtime game with the seahawks and the 49ers went the maximum time. So in five quarters, essentially Russell Wilson put up 232 passing yards and one passing touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the, the. What the 49ers proved even in their loss is that their defense is unbelievable. It is fully legit. That defensive line with Bosa is going to get after Kyler Murray. And so, yeah, I, you know, I would prefer to not play Kyler Murray. That, that extends a little bit to definitely To Larry Fitzgerald. I know he had a good bounce back game last week, but that was. I mean, you're talking about the world of difference going from the Tampa Bay secondary to the 49ers secondary.

[Jason Moore]

I cut Larry Fitzgerald for Russell Gage.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I don't.

[Jason Moore]

So that's where I'm at with Larry and the schedule and where you're at. And then Christian Kirk had the monster game. He's a big decision.

[Mike Wright]

Would you rather start Christian Kirk or Debo Samuel? Let's say Emmanuel Sanders is going to be active because we expect. I think he will be active, but he's dealing with the rib injury.

[Andy Holloway]

I have Kirk ranked higher, but honestly, I think I'd rather start Debo.

[Jason Moore]

Debo or Tyler Boyd?

[Mike Wright]

Debo.

[Jason Moore]

Debo or Mike Williams against Kansas City?

[Andy Holloway]

Williams.

[Jason Moore]

Debo Or Devonte Parker?

[Mike Wright]

Debo.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Debo Or Marvin Jones against Dallas?

[Mike Wright]

If he doesn't have Stafford, I would go Debo Marvin.

[Jason Moore]

I think there is a real opportunity for a reprise for Debo Samuel this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed.

[Jason Moore]

The at the running back position, you can't have very much confidence on the Cardinals side, but Kenyon Drake would be the one to start if you had to. Calum last time. Calum Balaj or Kenyon Drake? Where do you go there?

[Mike Wright]

Drake? Yeah, I would. I would trust the offense of Arizona over the offense of the Dolphins.

[Jason Moore]

And then on the other side, Tevin Coleman, Raheem Mostert. Mike start of the week. I almost want to call it Mike sneaky start of the week with Raheem Mostert. But the number four most asked start sit question on the site is Tevin Coleman versus Brian Hill. Lots of Brian Hill decisions to be made because you go out, you compete, you waiver wire him, you fab him. But then you have to look at your lineup and say, am I going to put Brian Hill against Carolina in or am I going to play Tevin Coleman against Arizona? Where do you lean on that one?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Tevin Coleman was terrible against Arizona two weeks ago. He was the running back 41. And I think that's sticking with people and it shouldn't. Arizona is not great against running backs or players. And so Tevin Coleman is a very good start this week. I'm not scared. I mean, he was, you know, I know he hasn't been what you hoped after that Carolina game when he was just unbelievable, but he's still been solid. And with Breeda out, I think Coleman is going to be relied on even more.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Hill's floor is safer though.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Patriots eight and one take on the five and four Eagles. Patriots are three and a half point favorites in Philly. It's a 45 point over under. You know, if you named three or four of the most confusing teams in football, Philadelphia would be in that category for me. Some weeks they look together. Some weeks they look like they are a playoff team. And other weeks they kind of look like they can't figure out the offensive side of the ball. They don't have the weapons, they don't have the game plan execution.

[Andy Holloway]

They're like the football equivalent of a magic eye puzzle. The magic eye picture, you know, where you have to cross the old 90s where it's just. It's garbly goop, but then you cross your eyes just right like, oh, it's the scooter.

[Mike Wright]

I have never seen one. Oh, I have never. I tried. I got a book. I looked at every.

[Jason Moore]

You did the whole, like, get up close, pull it back.

[Mike Wright]

There was a day I had to spend two or three hours. I'm like, I will. I will see. And then I'm like, they're all lying. They're all lying. There is nothing here. They're all pretending to see something. And I'm not going to lie. I'm going to be honest.

[Jason Moore]

All the cool kids are walking around the campus like, that's a boat, that's a tree.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And you're like, I just want to be one.

[Mike Wright]

Garbledygook. Oh, that's. That's a. That's the Mona Lisa.

[Jason Moore]

So you're saying occasionally you have to cross your eyes in order to see.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

It's there.

[Andy Holloway]

But then you get. People like Jason, they just, They've never seen it.

[Mike Wright]

It's not there.

[Jason Moore]

The. It's not going to be very easy to start. Eagles players in this game went, Howard Sanders could be somewhat sneaky. I try to avoid anybody that is in the vicinity of the cornerbacks in New England. So I think Dallas Goddard is somewhat interesting in this matchup. It's not like Philadelphia is not going to do anything whatsoever on offense. And he has the same number of red zone receptions as Zach Ertz this year. He's got. He played a season high 79% of snaps in week nine. I think one of you guys brought him up early in the week. I do think with Alshon, the injury. Goddard's going to have to be utilized.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

As a pass catching option. I'd rather go up against the linebackers than I would the corners.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And if Alshon is gone, I mean, we've Talked about this for years. New England always takes away your number one option. That becomes Zach Ertz. And they will, they will, they will.

[Andy Holloway]

Scheme where I won't be surprised if Gilmore shatters or shadows shatters.

[Mike Wright]

Both. They're both true. He's going to shatter.

[Andy Holloway]

But Gilmore will probably shadow Ertz if Alshon is out and that I'm still playing Ertz, so don't. You're on benching Ertz.

[Mike Wright]

You're just.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be unfortunate.

[Mike Wright]

I'm so sad.

[Jason Moore]

Both teams coming off the buy. We've talked about Sonny Michelle. He's had a very magic eye type of year. Four weeks inside the top 20, two weeks as the RB3, three weeks outside the top 40.

[Andy Holloway]

If he scores, he's good.

[Jason Moore]

That's fair. But you made a decision earlier that you were going to go with pass catching opportunities for Ronald Jones over Sony Michelle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

James White leads all running backs and red zone targets and receptions. James White, our RB23 by consensus this week. Mohammed Sanu, is he a must start?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Against The Eagles secondary. 25th against fantasy wide receivers. They traded the second round pick for him. And much like Antonio Brown, when they picked him up, they said, okay, you're, you're a big part of what we're doing right now for that one game. We've seen the same thing with Muhammad Sanu, the second game with the team. 10 receptions on 14 targets. He was. He's the guy behind Edelman.

[Mike Wright]

When is Nikhil Harry. Is he act.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's ready.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

He could have played this this past week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I wonder if he gets in this game. This would be a nice matchup to. I mean, I'm not playing him. I'm just wondering to watch him more for, you know, does, does that end up siphoning anything away from Mohamed Sanu? What about Phil Dorsett? He's been okay this year if you're desperate. And the Philly defense has been beaten, you know, in the secondary. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not touching anybody outside of the.

[Mike Wright]

Top two, myself, Edelman and Sanu.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then I don't know whether Harry's going to be out there, Myers or, you know, Dorsett.

[Andy Holloway]

So, I mean, you look at what Dorsett has done. He had, I mean, week one was huge. So that's still, I think, skewing your thought process with Dorset. But it's two receptions.

[Mike Wright]

Three.

[Andy Holloway]

Three. The injury game.

[Mike Wright]

He just gets a lot of touchdowns around the end zone. He's been utilized.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It'll take the big play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it will. Bengals. Oh and nine Raiders five and four. The games in Oakland Raiders are ten and a half point favorites. It's a 48 and a half point over under. Derek Carr's my start of the week at the quarterback position and the three of us have him at QB8 on the week in our consensus rankings on the site, I feel like we could.

[Mike Wright]

Be like Derek Carr is my start of the week at the quarterback position. Josh Jacobs start of the week at the running back position. Darren Waller. I mean I love Tyrell Williams absolutely. I mean I absolutely love the Raiders in this matchup. I think they're going to be able to do whatever they want. Hopefully it is through the air early because I assume the end of the game is going to be Josh Jacobs killing the clock against the hapless Ryan Finley led Bengals.

[Jason Moore]

Josh. I'm sorry, Darren Waller. Mike, is this a important game in your mind for Darren Waller?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And this is really the get right matchup the past couple weeks. Waller 3 for 40, 2 for 52, 2 for 11. He did score in that game, so it ended up being okay for fantasy. But the volume the past couple weeks has evaporated unfortunately. But this against this Bengals team, we've seen Mark Andrews just crush them twice already this season. I think Darren Waller gets, gets back in the good graces.

[Jason Moore]

Joe Mixon. Jason started the week at the running back position. We know the volume is going to be there regardless of the score. Tyler Boyd left injured last week. He kind of is guaranteed the 5, you know, the 5 for 48, 6 for 60 type of line. But you're in a Mike. Looked up on our wall here and saw the matchup preview and on one side he's Joe.

[Andy Holloway]

You always have the players up. You know, look at this, look at this. And it's Joe Mix.

[Jason Moore]

So now we got to hit the drop. And now it's a full on walrus bang up job there. Al Borland.

[Mike Wright]

That's awesome.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that gives you a little bit of optimism in the game, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, look, I talk about the radio.

[Jason Moore]

There's some slow routes though when the actual walrus is out there. That mustache, he curls all of his out routes too. There's no way that guy can. You can't turn on a dime as a walrus.

[Andy Holloway]

Now do the, the lady walrus.

[Mike Wright]

They're.

[Andy Holloway]

They're into the mustache.

[Jason Moore]

The lady walrus. Well, you know, I mean like, like they can't really. They're walruses, Mike. So they can't really trim it up.

[Andy Holloway]

I understand that, but it's like a lion's mane. You know, the animals in the wild, their appearance helps them later on with reproduction. Okay. Like, is the mustache it.

[Jason Moore]

I've really never. I've never thought about it. I really have.

[Andy Holloway]

You have now. So is the rest of America in.

[Mike Wright]

The water, a walrus can move as fast as 21.74 miles per hour. That's a walrus.

[Jason Moore]

That's like Derek Henry up the sideline. Yeah, that's about where you're at.

[Mike Wright]

Let's race him. Get a. Get a. Get 100 yard.

[Jason Moore]

What about on land? What about on land?

[Mike Wright]

Not so fast.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. How did this deteriorate?

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry.

[Mike Wright]

So getting back to fantasy, I talk about. I love all of.

[Jason Moore]

We're living in a fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

I love all of the Raiders because of how bad the Bengals defense has been. The truth is, the Raiders defense for fantasy purposes has been worse than the Bengals. So that gives you a little bit of hope. That's why, you know, mixing my start of the week. The problem is I just don't know if you can rely. It's like bad defense versus terrible quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That's why I kind of. I'm looking Eifert's way, and if I'm digging through the trash bag, pulling out a ring, Eifert should have an opportunity for some targets in this game. They're 30th against the fan. You know, tight ends in fantasy, there's a possibility that ifrt does what he did last week, gets into the end zone is a safety valve for Ryan Finley in this game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's the. It's a tough decision here for the Raiders DST to play them or not because they're not a great defense. I mean, you look across the board.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. But last week they were very good.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. And they're still at home. I think the riding high. I think this is a. I would absolutely play. I mean, there's. There's defenses. I would play over them, but I would play the Raiders defense here.

[Jason Moore]

The nice thing about that decision is that even if the Raiders give up some points, Ryan Finley is probably going to give them back.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

So that's the nice thing about when you, you know, whether it's Driscoll, Finley, Hoyer, you've always got the pick six possibilities.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of Driscoll, the breaking news from sleeper was Matt Patricia does not expect Stafford to play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. That's really unfortunate. I think he has Washington next week and he was a highly targeted guy for the Patrick Mahomes buy in week 12. People might have to pivot because you know, Stafford was on a roll, but dealing with the back injury. Sunday Night Football. The Bears. The Rams. The Rams are six and a half point favorites. Bears are four and five. Rams are five and four. It's been a. Rams are six and a half point favorites, but it's a very low over under. It's a 40 point over under because you got the Bears defense and then you got the Bears offense and they only. The implied point total is only 16.7 points for the Bears. And Mitch Trubisky's like, yeah, let's get there.

[Andy Holloway]

I've seen this game before.

[Jason Moore]

You've seen it.

[Andy Holloway]

We saw it last year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Jared. Jared Goff had a real game against the Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

He did.

[Mike Wright]

It was real bad. Now that game was in Chicago. Thank you. This is at home.

[Jason Moore]

Trubisky v. Goff. I cannot wait for this. In prime time. In prime time.

[Mike Wright]

This is terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, can they not flex games out this week? The NFL did because this can't be the mad. No, they flee. They flex next week. Yeah, the packers have been flexing next week. But this, they're like, yeah, this, this is the one we're going to stick with.

[Jason Moore]

They're going to be playing episodes of another show in the corner like their own built in just to keep people watching, like to keep them engaged.

[Andy Holloway]

How do you not have Lamar versus Watson?

[Mike Wright]

So the Rams, who I think we can agree that the primary struggle has been caused by the offensive line. They went from having a great offensive line to a bad offensive line. According to Pro Football Focus. They have by a mile the widest gap difference in rating between their offensive line one year to the next. That was prior to losing two more offensive linemen. They now have the traded for backup Brown's offensive line bust, who's a center coming in and playing guard this week. I mean it is a hodgepodge on the offensive line with Khalil Mack there. That. I guess that's why I was surprised to see the Rams favored by almost a touchdown. But this is a. I mean, well.

[Jason Moore]

They'Re home and it's a ghastly fantasy proposition for a lot of players in this league. Adjusted perspective for Todd Gurley. He's basically a touchdown dependent type of player.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And huge disappointment for fantasy owners hoping he would get the ball more, be a part of a very fluid offense that hasn't manifested. My problem with with golf is he's been thrown into the fire. This reminds me of the year that the Raiders offensive line deteriorated from a top Three to something that all of a sudden, Carr had to try to execute outside the pocket, improvise. Golf hasn't shown he's capable of that. If you call a slip screen to the right side, golf doesn't care what the defensive line is.

[Andy Holloway]

You better believe he's throwing it.

[Jason Moore]

He's going to throw the ball and that's. That should be discouraging for those of you that are good.

[Mike Wright]

Soldier should follow orders.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And mind you, if hopefully the Bears and Rams were both watching Mason Rudolph last night and then they feel great about their quarterback situation. That's all I'm saying. David Montgomery, you talked about the issue. Tariq Cohen, is there an opportunity there for. He got some work last week, Scored. Are you looking at him?

[Andy Holloway]

He scored, but his actual, like, usage was four receptions, three carries. The week before, it was two receptions, two carries, three receptions, four carries. Like, sure, he scored.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Montgomery's hurt.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was going to say. But at the same time, the last three weeks for Montgomery were 27, 14 and 17 carries. If Montgomery is hurt or limited and they need to get him a little bit more involved, I would be surprised if he doesn't end up with, you know, eight or nine carries to go along with the targets.

[Andy Holloway]

He might, but I honestly think if Montgomery, like, can't go in this game or he goes down in the middle of it, I think you'll see Ryan Null take work. I don't think they'll thrust it all upon Tariq Cohen, Cordero Patterson or.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Or even Cordero Patterson. I just. I don't see the. The work for Cohen going up to a point where you're super excited to.

[Mike Wright]

Play Balaj over Cohen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I'm personally pretty worried about Alan Robinson getting the Jen and Ramsey coverage. Your upside is capped and you know the downside. The downside is, yeah. Mitch Trubisky hurling a few errant targets his way, and then like, two weeks ago, you're in trouble. So I'm concerned. It doesn't mean I wouldn't play him at all. It just means don't expect him to win you the week. Make plans with the rest of your roster to get upside elsewhere.

[Mike Wright]

He's the only Brown. Brown. He's the only Bear that I think has a realistic shot of starting on my fantasy rosters this week. I'm pivoting from Montgomery where I can. I would never touch Mitchell Trubisky, Tariq Cohen, Trey Burton. There are no other options. The real question marks here are on the other side of the ball, specifically the biggest name as far as what do you do is Robert Woods. Robert woods has been disappointing on the season. Had a great game last week. Well, 7 for 95.

[Jason Moore]

I know but you've redefined great game for Robert woods right there based on last year to this year. I mean it's. That sucks to not get Robert woods high end production this year at all.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. I think 7 for 95 is a very. I mean if you did that every week you'd.

[Jason Moore]

He's still yet to score touchdown on the year.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the difference is that was like.

[Jason Moore]

A bad game for him last year. That's all I'm saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, sir. I'm playing Robert Woods.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I am too. And Josh Reynolds was playing on 100% of snaps. Is he somebody that you'd look at this week? Gerald Everett, Josh Reynolds.

[Andy Holloway]

I would prefer not to play Reynolds this particular week with this matchup like I don't think golf is going to have a good game. So like even Cooper cup, you're playing him. But it wouldn't shock me to see another low, disappointing game from Cup.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean I'm starting Cup. I'm personally starting woods and I think you start Todd Gurley. Those three are in your lineup and you just hold your breath. You know, you hope that Goff can do enough. It's ironic because I would not start golf here at all.

[Jason Moore]

I like Everett.

[Mike Wright]

He's.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's definitely in play.

[Jason Moore]

Chicago's allowed the third most fantasy points to the tight end over the last month. And when I watched the game last week seemed like the most comfortable target for golf. Last week was Everett.

[Andy Holloway]

Everett is honestly, I mean he's now in that realm of just. He's an every week tight end. He's not an upper tier one.

[Jason Moore]

But you're not digging through the trash for him, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah. If you look four since week four and they had their buy in there. So you're talking about six, four of six matchups. He's been a top 10 tight end, Gerald. Compare that to Waller. Waller in the last six matchups has been a top 10 tight end once, a top 12 tight end once.

[Andy Holloway]

Gerald Everett is questionable with the risk but Sean McVay expects him to play.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play Robert woods or Christian Kirk?

[Mike Wright]

Woods.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, fair enough. I was going to ask a Sammy Watkins question but I had the.

[Andy Holloway]

We're about to get to it.

[Jason Moore]

I heard the had the answer. Chiefs 6 and 4, Chargers 4 and 6. Chiefs lost last week and that stunner in this game. They're four and a half point favorites. It's a 52.5 over. Under Jason. Oh, Philip Rivers. Here we go. Implied point total of 24. You can't complain about that.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I can't. I mean, they're not till Monday. But you want to know what else? I couldn't complain about his matchup last week. And Philip Rivers should have been great. And he looked like he was washed. He looked like he was du in. And so I do worry about whether or not he's going to get it together. That was, you know, the first week with the new offensive coordinator or second week?

[Andy Holloway]

Second.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. The game is in Los Angeles. Mahomes had a great return to the lineup last week. He's got his weapons available to him. We call Nicole Hardman a lot of things. You can call him the wild card, the one touch man, the wild card. If you get him the ball, anything can happen. All it takes is one touch. But this is an interesting game to me. Damian Williams starts the decisions on him. He's one of the guys that people want to know. Brian Hill or Damian Williams?

[Andy Holloway]

Damian Williams, Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I think Damian Williams is a great start. He was almost my start of the week. This week he's our running back. 13. The Chargers are very porous against the run and Damian Williams appears to have the job.

[Jason Moore]

What about the other side? Melvin Gordon, Austin Eckler, in this matchup, are you starting both players?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Melvin Gordon, you can play with full confidence finally, which. Which is nice if you were holding on to Melvin Gordon the entire season. Echler, it's a little bit riskier. The snap percentage is much lower with the new OC, 35 and 45%. He's still getting enough work. I mean, saved his week last week with that. With that touchdown. But with the over under with the ability of the Chiefs to kind of get up by multiple scores against the Chargers, Eckler is in play for me for half and full point.

[Mike Wright]

You're talking about a game that Vegas expects to be very high scoring for obvious reasons. And the Chiefs are dead last in fantasy points given up to the running back position. So I think you could start both of these guys. I agree that it's. You don't have the same confidence in Echler, but this is a game script where if they actually utilize his screen game, they might need to. And he could end up having a very good game. So I'm fine starting Echler.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Say it at the same time. Rest of season, Austin echler is an RB2. Okay. RB2. You're in agreement. Keenan Allen, he's the wide receiver 30 over the last month. Is this the week we get the breakout at home? Last year against Kansas city, he was 8 for 108 and 1. Is Keenan Allen going to finally deliver? I believe the answer is yes. I'm in that camp.

[Mike Wright]

I am as well.

[Jason Moore]

He is receiving a consistent target share. He simply hasn't scored and a little bit inefficient compared to his previous years with Philip.

[Mike Wright]

And you know, look, if you look at the stretch of games he had that just terrible run where he was very disappointing. Denver, whose defense has been great. Pittsburgh, whose defense has been great. Tennessee, whose defense is pretty good. Chicago, whose defense is great. Green Bay, their secondary has shut a lot of people down.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, last week against Oakland, he was the wide receiver 20. It wasn't the breakout game you wanted, but this is a matchup where, yeah, this, he's going to be just fine. It's going to be a good fantasy option.

[Jason Moore]

Mike Williams in this game or Sammy Watkins? My answer is Mike Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Williams.

[Mike Wright]

I would agree. Sammy Watkins continues to dominate targets and do nothing with them.

[Jason Moore]

49, 44, 57, 139, 51, 30, 40. That's his fantasy finishes since week one. That is a player that should never touch your lineup.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but he's still like a wide receiver two on the season because that week one. Oh, that victory lap was fast.

[Jason Moore]

He's finally dripped himself down to wide receiver 32 on the season. Oh, so the truth is beginning to emerge. All right. And then Travis Kelsey, Hunter Henry. Those are Smash plays this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Hunter Henry has been very consistent since returning.

[Mike Wright]

Wait, Sammy Watkins or McCall Hardman, one of which. That's insane because you have to go Sammy. He's on the field, he's getting targets. But if you look at the last.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm going McColl Hartman.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, just look at the fantasy finishes of the last since week two months.

[Jason Moore]

Since week one. He said McColl Hartman's been in the top 24 four times. He's been in the top 32 other times.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. He's been. It's so weird because I have such a hard time recommending people to start a guy who's barely playing. But if you do every single week you are, you have been winning the majority of those of that game. It's crazy.

[Jason Moore]

It is a bit of a antithetical circumstance for fantasy owners. It goes against the grain of what we know and love about targets and volume and snap percentage.

[Mike Wright]

But there's Not. There's like two people in the NFL that are as fast.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like when Hardman comes into the game to kind of debunk the snap percentage situation. When he comes in, he comes in with the plane. When Watkins gets the ball, it's like we had to throw it to Watkins.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

That's how I feel. It's not drawn up for him.

[Mike Wright]

My guys weren't open. I'll target them.

[Jason Moore]

It's just hard to argue against the fantasy finishes. It's so contrary to the target numbers. I've got the numbers in here. Watkins since returning. 8 targets, 10 targets, 9 targets.

[Mike Wright]

Pat Mahomes targets. Right. The lizard. The lizard king. He's going to get usurped.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He's going to be off the throne. He's got to be. Let's hand it to Lazard at this point. Sammy Watkins or Alan Lazard this week?

[Mike Wright]

That is. That is a cold blooded question.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Especially since one of them is on. Bye.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Solid point. I was jumping too quick into that. So I go, Watkins in that situation.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Interesting.

[Jason Moore]

No D Jacks, Ltd. Alshon. I want pass catchers that are running routes against linebackers. I want the $5,000 price. Dallas Goddard is actually a player that I'm. I've pivoted to.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Let's go, Dallas. All right, Jason, who do you have as your ballers on a budget pick for this week?

[Mike Wright]

I couldn't decide because I love two too much and so I'm gonna give both. Calvin Ridley at 5500. He hasn't had the full breakout, but with no Mohammed Sanu with no Austin Hooper. I think at 5500, Calvin Ridley has the ability to be a top five wide receiver. And then John Brown at 5900 against the Dolphins. If you're talking about you plug those two guys into your lineup together, you have so much money to spend up, you know, it's crazy. They keep trying to price Christian McCaffrey out. Like, you just can't pay for him. And every week is like, no, I should have paid for him.

[Jason Moore]

I do feel like Calvin Ridley has ended up in the ballers on a budget section for like three or four straight weeks. I don't disagree with.

[Mike Wright]

He's been successful for a couple of them, but for the. For the price, I mean, at that price, you don't need the monstrous output.

[Andy Holloway]

And mine is, it's Raheem the sneaky start Mostert, 4600 bucks. He is one of those guys where the price can't update. With the new information on Matt Burrida playing Raheem Moster, he's kind of the free square this week to unlock so you can get someone like Christian McCaffrey to get those types of players into your lineup.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

That's a good point. All right, that'll do it. Make sure you tune in to game day live. Mike will be with you an hour before kickoff on Sunday, up to date with all the injury news and all of his tilt picks.

[Andy Holloway]

Enjoy the weekend, Falkland.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on join the Foot.com and follow us on Twitter at theffballers.