Week 11 Matchups, In-or-Out, Sharts & Ladders

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode Summary Title: Week 11 Matchups, In-or-Out, Sharts & Ladders
Release Date: November 16, 2018
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Week 11 Matchups Overview

The hosts delve into the key NFL matchups for Week 11, providing detailed analysis and fantasy football insights for each game. They break down player performances, team dynamics, and potential fantasy implications.

a. Steelers vs. Jaguars

• Record: Steelers at 6-2 versus Jaguars at 3-6
• Analysis:
  • Andy Holloway [16:21]: "Wow." expresses surprise at the matchup dynamics.
  • Jason Moore [16:22]: Highlights the Jaguars' poor performance, expecting trends to continue.
  • Mike Wright [17:07]: Acknowledges the Steelers' strong offensive and defensive lines.
• Fantasy Implications:
  • Leonard Fournette is a crucial player for the Jaguars, especially at home.
  • Vance McDonald and Jesse James are recommended tight end options against the Jaguars' defense.

b. Raiders vs. Cardinals

• Record: Raiders at 1-8 versus Cardinals at 2-7
• Analysis:
  • Jason Moore [22:36]: Discusses David Johnson's potential breakout performance.
  • Andy Holloway [23:14]: Emphasizes the Raiders' poor red-zone defense, favoring David Johnson as a must-start.
• Fantasy Implications:
  • Larry Fitzgerald is preferred over Christian Kirk despite the Cardinals' overall low-scoring offense.
  • Jared Cook versus Ricky Seals Jones debated for tight end streaming.

c. Chargers vs. Broncos

• Record: Broncos at 3-6 versus Chargers at 7-2
• Analysis:
  • Mike Wright [28:57]: Recommends Philip Lindsay due to his consistent performance.
  • Andy Holloway [30:15]: Cautions against starting Cortland Sutton against the Chargers' strong secondary.
• Fantasy Implications:
  • Emmanuel Sanders emerges as a viable option given the Chargers' defensive focus.
  • Melvin Gordon and Keenan Allen are highlighted as must-start players.

d. Eagles vs. Saints

• Record: Eagles at 4-5 versus Saints at [Record not specified]
• Analysis:
  • Andy Holloway [33:17]: Advocates for starting Mark Ingram despite the Eagles' decent rush defense.
  • Jason Moore [34:00]: Points out the Eagles' improved defense over recent weeks.
• Fantasy Implications:
  • Alshon Jeffrey and Zach Hertz are recommended as must-start wide receivers.
  • Trequan Smith and Tyrell Williams discussed for their potential upside.

e. Vikings vs. Bears

• Record: Vikings at 5-3-1 versus Bears at 6-3
• Analysis:
  • Andy Holloway [38:16]: Expresses concern over the high number of fantasy-relevant players in this matchup.
  • Mike Wright [38:36]: Highlights the Bears' stout defense against the run.
• Fantasy Implications:
  • Dalvin Cook is favored to take over the game, despite the Bears' defensive strength.
  • Jordan Howard versus Peyton Barber debated for running back starts.

f. Chiefs vs. Rams

• Record: Chiefs at 9-1 versus Rams at 9-1
• Analysis:
  • Andy Holloway [42:32]: Excited about the high-scoring potential of this matchup.
  • Jason Moore [43:00]: Highlights key players like Tyreek Hill, Patrick Mahomes, and Jared Goff as must-starts.
• Fantasy Implications:
  • The game is expected to be a shootout, favoring high-upside players.
  • Sammy Watkins is considered a reliable start, with backups Josh Reynolds and Chris Conley recommended in case of last-minute injuries.

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2. Player Performances and Recommendations

Devonte Adams

• Performance: Elevated from a struggling rookie to an elite wide receiver (03:02).
• Recommendation: Continues to be a top target, bolstered by his chemistry with Aaron Rodgers.

Aaron Jones

• Performance: Living up to his hype with 11 carries for 40 yards and a touchdown (03:09).
• Recommendation: Solid RB1 choice given his consistent production.

Jimmy Graham

• Injury Update: Thumb injury reported by Mike Silver from NFL Network (04:37).
• Recommendation: With Graham out, streaming tight ends become necessary assets.

Marquez Valdez Scantling

• Performance: Struggled in Week 11 against Seattle's strong defense (05:12).
• Recommendation: Despite a bad game, Andy Holloway remains confident, suggesting to double down on Valdez.

Juju Smith Schuster

• Recommendation: Although facing challenges, Juju remains a weekly starter in Jason Moore's recommendations (07:06).

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3. Injury Updates

The hosts provide comprehensive updates on key players' injury statuses, impacting their availability and fantasy value for Week 11.

• Joe Flacco (QB, Baltimore):

  • Status: Hip injury likely to sideline him (11:54).
  • Fantasy Impact: Advises caution when considering Baltimore pass catchers.

• James Conner (RB, Pittsburgh):

  • Status: Concussion, expected to practice fully (13:00).
  • Fantasy Impact: Potential RB2 option if fully recovered.

• Joe Mixon (RB, Cincinnati):

  • Status: Knee injury unknown if maintenance or aggravation (13:29).
  • Fantasy Impact: Advises having a handcuff like Gio Bernard on the bench.

• Sammy Watkins (WR, Chargers):

  • Status: Probable to play Monday Night Football (15:05).
  • Fantasy Impact: Must-start unless a last-minute injury occurs.

• Marvin Jones (RB, Oakland):

  • Status: Knee injury, likely out (15:05).
  • Fantasy Impact: Limited options for Oakland's backfield production.

• Chris Godwin (WR, Tampa Bay):

  • Status: Ankle injury, 50% game-day chance (15:09).
  • Fantasy Impact: Monitor for potential starters; not a reliable option this week.

• Jordy Nelson (WR, Oakland):

  • Status: Knee injury sidelining him (15:56).
  • Fantasy Impact: Limited receiver options for Oakland, increasing reliance on checkdowns.

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4. Fantasy Forecast and Strategies

The hosts discuss various strategies to optimize fantasy lineups based on Week 11 matchups, player performances, and injury updates.

• Doubling Down on Strong Performers:

  • Devonte Adams and Aaron Jones are highlighted as reliable starters.
  • Despite injuries, Marquez Valdez Scantling remains a valuable asset.

• Streaming Tight Ends:

  • With key tight ends like Jimmy Graham out, streaming options such as Jesse James and Ricky Seals Jones are recommended.

• Assessing Matchup Trends:

  • Steelers vs. Jaguars: Favoring the Steelers' strong defensive performance against the Jaguars' offense.
  • Eagles vs. Saints: Investing in Mark Ingram due to favorable offensive opportunities despite the Eagles' solid defense.

• Backup Plans:

  • Encouragement to stash players like Josh Adams as backups in case of late injury updates.
  • Recommendations for backup tight ends in case of sudden injuries during games.

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5. Daily Dose: Quick Picks and Draft Strategies

The hosts engage in a rapid-fire segment where they select quarterbacks for fantasy lineups, emphasizing the importance of matchup considerations and player upside.

• Andy Holloway selects Drew Brees and Carson Wentz, highlighting their favorable matchups and consistent performances (46:44).
• Jason Moore opts for Patrick Mahomes, valuing his high touchdown potential (47:05).
• Mike Wright chooses a mix of Jared Goff, Cam Newton, and Marcus Mariota, balancing potential high performers with strategic risks.

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6. Community Engagement and Announcements

• Weekly Contests: Promotion of FanDuel and Pristine Auction for exclusive fantasy football resources and merchandise.
• Social Media: Encouragement to follow the podcast on Twitter and join the community at jointhefoot.com.
• Additional Content: Mention of the "Spitballers Podcast" for more fantasy football discussions and mock drafts.

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7. Lighthearted Banter and Closing Remarks

The episode concludes with the hosts engaging in casual conversation about setting up Christmas trees, sharing personal anecdotes, and promoting their second podcast. They maintain a friendly and humorous tone, fostering a sense of community among listeners.

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Notable Quotes

• Andy Holloway [05:12]: "See he got, he got a little. He got kneecapped by the touchdown from Robert Tanya Harding."

• Jason Moore [07:06]: "I recommend Juju Smith Schuster. He's a wide receiver for the Pittsburgh."

• Andy Holloway [10:19]: "Ed Dixon is the best tight end in the history of the National Football League."

• Andy Holloway [23:14]: "All right, I have still as a one, he's the. He's my running back. 12 as of this moment."

• Jason Moore [43:30]: "Would you like to change the channel? Would you like to watch Andy Griffith reruns in the corner of the screen?"

• Jason Moore [47:32]: "Because of the Tyreek kill effect."

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Timestamp Guide:

• [03:02] - Discussion on Devonte Adams' improvement
• [05:12] - Marquez Valdez Scantling's performance
• [07:06] - Recommendation for Juju Smith Schuster
• [11:54] - Joe Flacco injury update
• [16:21] - Steelers vs. Jaguars matchup introduction
• [22:36] - Raiders vs. Cardinals matchup analysis
• [46:44] - Daily Dose quarterback selections
• [47:05] - Patrick Mahomes selection rationale
• [53:48] - Fantasy team setup banter

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, player analyses, injury updates, and strategic recommendations from the Fantasy Footballers Podcast Episode "Week 11 Matchups, In-or-Out, Sharts & Ladders." Whether you're a seasoned fantasy manager or a newcomer, this breakdown provides valuable insights to optimize your fantasy lineup for Week 11.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

With the Arizona Cardinals, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the podcast. Just another Friday, November 16th.

[Mike Wright]

That's a very specific Friday.

[Jason Moore]

We are another one.

[Mike Wright]

Just another Friday, November 16th.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Every year.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't. I don't think it's gonna be every year.

[Jason Moore]

Friday is November 16th.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That's.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the one day that stays the same.

[Mike Wright]

Adjust your calendar appropriately.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the show. This is the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Andy, Mike and Jason back again. The rest of the matchups on the show today. The fantasy forecast. We'll get you caught up on injury news. It's a Foot Clan Friday and Brooks is here. Brooks is in the house. Oh, yeah. Brooks has enthusiastically declared this to be a great show.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, this is going to be the best.

[Jason Moore]

And that's all I need. I need the pat on the back from Brooks because he knows all. He is the judge.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, look, whenever you come in off of a dominating performance, a dominating call, like the greatness that is Ed Dixon. Red Dixon. Look, shout out to the Foot Glenn. Ed Dixon is the stupidest fantasy thing to talk about. He's the stupidest fantasy darling that we could ever have. So irrelevant.

[Jason Moore]

It was Red Ed redemption last night.

[Andy Holloway]

Red Ed redemption. But shout out to the Foot Clan, of which there were hundreds of you, that literally, when he caught that touchdown, just had to tweet me. I couldn't even read all of them that were on the Red Dead Express and that. Well, that's fun to. I mean, when you can be excited over someone like Ed Dixon catching a touchdown, that means you're part of the team here. You're part of the family.

[Mike Wright]

I was not. My message to our Slack channel was just. Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we can talk about last night.

[Mike Wright]

If we want to.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's.

[Mike Wright]

Now, let's get into it. Devonte Adams, monster game.

[Jason Moore]

He's just so good now. He.

[Mike Wright]

We were talking about it before the.

[Jason Moore]

Show or relative to the other players. He's very good.

[Mike Wright]

But devonte Adams was not looking so hot when he entered the league. I mean he was a high draft pick. He got an really early opportunity to showcase and be the man. When Jordy Nelson went out with second or third year, I can't recall, stunk it up and he was terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

Drops.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he was dropping the ball all the time. And he has since elevated himself into. I think he's in the elite category of wide receiver in the NFL now. He's frequently open air. Like the reason he didn't have a touchdown last night because Aaron Rodgers under threw him on that 40 yard reception early on he, Adams had to come back to the ball. Adams bailed Rogers out on several occasions of making some highly suspect decisions.

[Jason Moore]

10 for 166, a 57 yard catch, 12 targets and was dominant. Him and Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones, yeah. Living up to the hype. 11 for 40 and a touchdown on the ground. And then this was the great part. Five for 63 and a touchdown through the air looked electric. You barely saw Jamal Williams. One carry for Jamal Williams. Finally Aaron Jones was out there. I mean this is what you wanted to see. This is what we hoped for and it was everything you wanted. Now what we didn't want was what happened with other pass catchers on the team. Jimmy Graham left with an injury. So if you started Jimmy Graham you got what, one catch, 13 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he has a thumb injury and Mike Silver from the NFL Network is reporting they, they fear it to be serious. So if you were counting on Jimmy Graham in this disgusting tight end landscape, prepare to be even more disgusted when you hit the waiver wire.

[Jason Moore]

And then I have to mention my chart of the week. Oh, Mark Marquez Valdez cantling. Maybe the miniature Valdez scantling. Like if you're in a league with micro valuable micro points.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh yeah.

[Mike Wright]

See he got, he got a little. He got kneecapped by the touchdown from Robert Tanya Harding.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, I was trying it out.

[Jason Moore]

I think Tanya Harding is a good Tanya Harding reference.

[Mike Wright]

Jason's very current.

[Jason Moore]

I doubt he likes the reference personally.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

That was a beast.

[Andy Holloway]

And this is the only time you're ever going to be able to talk about that play.

[Jason Moore]

It was a great catch, Roger.

[Mike Wright]

Jimmy Graham is going to be out. So here's that dude was running free.

[Andy Holloway]

Marquez Valdez scantling had a bad game and it was unfortunate. You start of the week, Andy.

[Jason Moore]

I burned down with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I started him against Jason in our league. So I look, didn't work out.

[Andy Holloway]

It didn't work out.

[Jason Moore]

I took my shot but I. And then the bullet came back and boomerang bullet, boomerang bullet.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the thing for everyone out there that's like, oh, he was raw. It was a bad play, yada yada. Look, Jimmy Graham is out. I am still 100% in on Marquez. Double down. It's not a double down. It's look, this was in Seattle against good flag defense. I mean the wide receiver two for Aaron Rodgers since 2011 is averaged at the end of the season. The wide receiver 15. The rationale for Marquez is there it was a bad game and there's bad games from everybody. And so I think, you know, shame on you clearly Andy, but also shout out to you, you are currently the number nine ranked analyst on fantasy pros for the course of the season. So he's.

[Jason Moore]

That's the blanket I took to bed with me last night.

[Andy Holloway]

Andy is trying to go deep for his starts of the week. What you needed to do, Andy, I know is pull out Jason Moore, make JuJu Smith Schuster.

[Jason Moore]

I have a note. Every week I have a note. Juju is the start of the week for me at wide receiver where I seem to have problems from here on out. From here on out for the rest of the season.

[Mike Wright]

Here's my concern.

[Jason Moore]

I recommend juju Smith Schuster. He's a wide receiver for the Pittsburgh.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, up and comer.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's my concern. One, one problem.

[Mike Wright]

What's that?

[Andy Holloway]

He is on the road in Jacksonville this week.

[Jason Moore]

Great.

[Mike Wright]

I have my just overall concerns for Valdez scantling and the Green Bay offense as a whole. Because if you're watching what's happened, this wasn't the first time it's happened this year where Aaron Rodgers. I don't know what these plays are that are coming from the sideline where Rogers he has ample time. But unless devonte Adams is the first read, terrible things are happening and Aaron Rodgers is getting sacked.

[Jason Moore]

We talked about it before the show. Other than devonte Adams, the other receivers are so young.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

We just talked about devonte Adams stinking at the beginning of his career. You have a long a learning curve. Like there was a time when I thought devonte Adams couldn't be a one because he only had two or three ability. Right. Like you just didn't have that inherent connection. These other receivers, MVs included, I don't know what they're doing when he breaks out of the pocket. There's no returning to the quarterback. There's no awareness of the, you know, in a scramble drill to find your way open.

[Andy Holloway]

Part of that is the scheme though, is that it's scrambled drill every time. Mike McCarthy, his offense is so stale, stagnant, outdated. It's disgusting.

[Mike Wright]

It took him 11 weeks to feature Aaron Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to bring that up, JJ Zacharias and tweeted out, he just worded it perfect. He said legitimately horrendous that it took this long to feature Aaron Jones. You have an Alvin Camaro on your team and you weren't using him.

[Jason Moore]

Because I thought about that last night when I watched him come in for third down. I said to myself, I go, Andy Reid would have had him in there week one. Week one, he would have been in Sean Payton. Week one, he's a third down back.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. If Aaron Jones was drafted by the Saints, oh yeah, he would be smashing it.

[Andy Holloway]

He'd be a top five pick right.

[Mike Wright]

Now on the Seattle side. Least touch on it. Chris Carson was the featured running back despite coming back from his injury, had a strong game. Rashad Penny played clearly above Mike Davis. I think Rashad Penny was about to be in line for a bigger day, but he tweaked what his hip on that big run.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he did. Other than the big run though, he was 1.8 a carry on his other seven runs. So I mean, maybe you blame the hip, maybe not.

[Mike Wright]

I think I factored into his inefficiency.

[Jason Moore]

8 for 46. He had a really nice run that I thought he's going to caught in the backfield. Bad pursuit. Carson 17 for 83 and a touchdown. Mike Davis featured here and there. 4 for 26 wide receiver wise. I mean, it was a good game from Doug Baldwin. Seven for 52 and a touchdown. He also had a couple targets where Russell just missed him, but he led the team in targets. 10 targets on the day. So you kind of saw both sides of the equation last night for Seattle. You actually saw a first half in which, you know, it seemed like the wide receivers were in tune. And then, you know, in the second half there's a little bit more of the running game. But you know, Russell Wilson, 21 for 31, 2. 25 and 2. Yeah, he's okay. That's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

So it wasn't world beater, but it's certainly a good outing. I basically the biggest takeaway though was.

[Jason Moore]

That start, Ed Dixon over mbs.

[Andy Holloway]

Ed Dixon is the best tight end in the history of the National Football League.

[Jason Moore]

You know what, let's celebrate something.

[Andy Holloway]

Foot clan Friday.

[Jason Moore]

If you can.

[Andy Holloway]

Listen to that drop and not smile. You're a horrible person.

[Mike Wright]

Or you started Marquez last night.

[Andy Holloway]

One of those two things.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry, man.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Then he would have spelled it like that. Mike, this is more like maybe, you know, it's a play on Edelman, but it's Adele the singer. You see what I'm saying?

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Twitter, you can find us at the FF Ballers. Make sure you check out our YouTube. YouTube.com the Fantasy Footballers will be posting some highlights on Saturdays now and you can always get connected with our livestream. Mike is live on Sunday mornings getting you up to date on pretty much everything going on.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Let's go ahead and talk through some injuries.

[Andy Holloway]

What's it going to be, Ms. Fly?

[Mike Wright]

Are you in or out?

[Jason Moore]

All right. Starting at the quarterback position, the big question is Joe Flacco, the hip injury. What do we know and what do we expect?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think he's going to play. He hasn't been practicing. They said he doesn't need to in order to go. Lamar Jackson missed Thursday, but it was with an illness. From what I have heard from some, you know, Twitter followers or some Twitter sort of follows from the Baltimore area, the Robert Griffin situation, I think that's why it's trending. Might happen.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I mean, that could go. That is. That is truly a very wide swing. I would stay away from Baltimore pass catchers. They could have a great game. I would stay away from Griffin. He could have a great game, but I would stay away. The only guy I'm confident in is probably Alex Collins.

[Jason Moore]

I get the.

[Mike Wright]

There's certainly far more risk if. If you go from Flacco to Griffin, but I lean with the side that the team will still perform.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but someone like Joe Flacco, known for the deep ball, known for targeting John Brown.

[Mike Wright]

Robert Griffin's deep ball is very good.

[Jason Moore]

Are you thinking back like a few years or. I mean, it's been the last time.

[Andy Holloway]

We have to.

[Jason Moore]

It's been a really, really long time since we. I would lose all confidence in pass catchers there, because what they do, it's not so much does he have a good D ball, it's what does the coach do with the offense to protect him from failure.

[Andy Holloway]

What is the chemistry for a guy.

[Jason Moore]

Are you telling me. Are you telling me you would not downgrade John Brown in the event? I will change quarters.

[Mike Wright]

I will slightly, but it's not a holy crap, I got to go find another option like off the waiver wire or things like, I'm not going to panic on John Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Look, and this is based off of Robert Griffin in the preseason. That was. He looked sharp. I know. I get it. It's preseason, so it's. It's kind of hard to make takeaways. But he at least didn't look terrible. That's a plus to me.

[Andy Holloway]

Him and Sam Bradford looked very good in preseason.

[Mike Wright]

Sam Bradford did not.

[Jason Moore]

James. Yeah, he looked all right in the preseason. He had a. He had a couple sharp, sharp outings. James Conner, concussion. Practicing in full. He'll be in there. Joe Mixon popped up on the injury report yesterday. Was limited, was not listed on the Wednesday report. We don't know if this is maintenance or a new aggravation of the knee injury that kept him out earlier. What do you guys think about Joe Mixon? He's going up against the number one ranked running defense in terms of fantasy points against it makes him a little bit scary.

[Mike Wright]

This is why if you have a known handcuff that can produce, you should have already added them. If you have Joe Mixon, we said Gio Bernard should be on your bench at this point of the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep, 100% he should play. It's not a great matchup, but you must have Geo Keenan Allen in or out added to the Week 11 injury report. He's going to be in.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I'll go in.

[Jason Moore]

Mike Williams, groin injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Same exact thing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The Bengals wide outs. AJ Green, the rumor of him coming back, he hasn't practiced in or out.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to say out for the guy who should miss multiple weeks and isn't practicing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

John Ross had a few receptions last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think he'll play.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. You think he'll be in? Groin injury. Sammy Watkins, the Monday night game, in or out?

[Mike Wright]

He is expected.

[Jason Moore]

Marvin Jones, knee injury, didn't practice. In or out.

[Mike Wright]

Out.

[Jason Moore]

That's what you think? I believe Chris Godwin, ankle injury.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday. You're just going to have to monitor it. This could be 50. 50. I'm Aline out.

[Mike Wright]

You got home.

[Andy Holloway]

Freeze.

[Jason Moore]

Freeze.

[Andy Holloway]

Pronounced with a freeze.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yeah, I would a little extra oomphrez.

[Andy Holloway]

I would give him a little boost, but it's not a boost into my lineup, so it's irrelevant.

[Jason Moore]

Kiki qt. In or out?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna say out. He's practicing in a limited fashion, but that's coming off of a bye week. He doesn't want to get out there till he's 100%. I'm guessing they give him another week.

[Jason Moore]

And then lastly, Jordy Nelson with the knee injury still sidelined, I think he's.

[Mike Wright]

Going to be out.

[Jason Moore]

Who exactly is catching the ball in Oakland?

[Mike Wright]

Roberts.

[Jason Moore]

No one. Seth Roberts.

[Andy Holloway]

Seth Roberts could be Jared Cook. My pump the brakes. But at this point there's no one else.

[Jason Moore]

So it could be a long afternoon for Shard. Yeah, yeah, it could be a lot of. A lot of checkdowns. All right, let's get into the matchups.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy forecast.

[Jason Moore]

Continuing our matchups from yesterday, the six and two, six two and one Steelers take on the three and six Jaguars.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Jags are five and a half point home dogs three and six. Yeah, it's a bad year for Jacksonville. 46 and a half point over under in this one. Look, the Steelers are just playing well right now and the Jags are playing poorly. I expect those trends to continue in Jacksonville. The Jacksonville defense has not been able to figure things out to the degree where they can save this team. Right where they can overcome these. A bad game on offense from Blake Bortles or what are we expecting in this one? Is this amazingly, this is a rematch from last year's AFC divisional game where the Jacksonville Jaguars won 45, 42 and Fournette had three touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was surprised at the line and I get it because the Steelers are on fire. Their offensive line and defensive line look unbelievable. But having Leonard Fournette back being at home in a must win divisional game, I think it's going to be.

[Mike Wright]

I think it could be.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh right.

[Mike Wright]

Conference.

[Andy Holloway]

Conference. You know, I think it could be closer hard fought than the five and a half home dog score insinuates it will be a tough outing if Leonard Fournette can't get it going. But I think at home Leonard Fournette has a pretty good game. The Steelers have been good against the run. They're, they're, you know, fifth best on the season over the last six weeks, their seventh best. So it's a tough matchup. But I do like that he's at home.

[Jason Moore]

They've also Been great against the pass. I don't think there's been a wide receiver with more than 75 yards receiving against them in six, seven weeks. The Joe Hayden effect, as Mike would call it.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

And you know, you're starting Antonio Brown, you're starting Big Ben, you're starting juju with confidence.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, the Jags have allowed a top 10 quarterback performance three of their last four weeks. That's one of those things. You don't realize it because overall, if you look at their seasonal ranking, the Jags are still very strong against the quarterback. But recently things have been more falling apart. I have confidence in the Steelers side and I'm. I'm good with the line of five and a half, I think. As am I. I think the Jags are just bad. I don't think Leonard Fournette will be able to get it going.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I guess. Where would you. Where do you guys have Fournette this week? Last week, obviously he kind of.

[Mike Wright]

He's a 2, but because he gets volume. I mean, he's. You still play Leonard Fournette? I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

I have still as a one, he's the. He's my running back. 12 as of this moment. So I think the opportunities are there. Whenever you've got a guy that talented that's going to touch the ball 20 plus times, he has to be viewed as a one.

[Mike Wright]

Are you going to do the Vance dance?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I was saying, what do you think about Vance McDonald in the playoff game last year he had 16 targets and.

[Andy Holloway]

That'S the one place. That's the one place where you can beat the Jaguars. Even though the Jaguars defense recently for quarterbacks hasn't been outstanding on the season, they're the sixth best against quarterback, six best against running back, four first against wide receiver, but then 23rd at the tight end. So tight end is, I think, Vance McDonald, even Jesse James, you know, because one of those two guys is going to have a good game and if you have to take a shot, this is a decent matchup to do it.

[Jason Moore]

Are you telling me Jesse James could go full add diction in this one?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, the Outlaw. The Outlaw. Jesse and Red Dead.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, mercy.

[Mike Wright]

That's a strong fantasy team.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it is.

[Mike Wright]

Very high in robberies.

[Jason Moore]

That's true. Any other thoughts from this one? I mean, I think we've hit all the big names.

[Andy Holloway]

What about the Jaguars receivers? Is there anybody. I mean, Moncrief's been.

[Mike Wright]

If I'm playing anybody, it's. It's Moncrief. But this Is not a matchup where I want to flex him. I'd rather look for someone else.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Wow. Did he take the photo or is he in the photo? This is from my private collection.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, let's talk about real quick.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Yeah, just went up this morning. One and eight. The Raiders take on the two and seven Cardinals in Arizona.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Cardinals are five and a half point favorites. It's a forty and a half point over, under and you know, look, the big storyline, David Johnson, the breakout last week. Right now, David Johnson, he's through the bind. He's still the number 10 overall running back on a season where look, he's viewed as a disappointment. But I again I think he has the opportunity under left which coming off for the monster week, he's a top. I mean, you know he could finish inside of the top three. Yeah, I mean three.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you're saying on season. I'm saying this week just looks unbelievable. You're at home, your favorite in Vegas. I mean in the red zone.

[Jason Moore]

They're passing him the football.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they're passing him the football. You also have the fact that the Raiders, I mean they have in the red zone just been getting rushed on and at an unbelievable clip. I think, you know, David Johnson obviously must start but he could have a huge week. The other player here and you know we talked about him yesterday as my start of the week that I think is a great option is Larry Fitzgerald.

[Jason Moore]

I thought MVS was your.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh, Andy started the week. Larry Fitzgerald.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

That's the new strat. Like. No, that was your start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

We don't have any proof.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean you've got double digit targets in the two Byron Leftwich games. You've got the home matchup, you've got the defense of the Raiders. So you know, all the, you know, cards are aligning for the Arizona Cardinals to have good games from their main pieces.

[Jason Moore]

Cards are aligning, eh, I see what you did.

[Andy Holloway]

Are David Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald. I would much rather play Larry over Christian Kirk in this game in Arizona.

[Jason Moore]

Now is there any universe in a deep league you want to stream Josh Rosen because he's playing such a poor defense at home.

[Andy Holloway]

It would have to be a deep two quarterback league.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's a deep two quarterback. Yeah, he's far more of a fan.

[Jason Moore]

Dual like a 15 team 2 quarterback where all 30 quarterbacks are started. That's the one you're in on.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, even quarterbacks on by. He's more of a DFS play this weekend. But I know you want to play Larry over Kirk but offenses facing the Raiders have thrown a deep ball on over 15% of the pass attempts and that's the second highest in the league.

[Jason Moore]

Now you're saying there's a shot.

[Mike Wright]

You're saying that people go deep against the Raiders for a reason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So I think Christian Kirk has a chance. And if you are, if you're streaming tight end. We mentioned that Ricky Seals Jones is an option. He. The Raiders are very, very bad against the tight end position and he is getting far more involved like David Johnson since the change to Leftwich.

[Jason Moore]

The real issue with Arizona is there are possibilities for all of these players outside of David Johnson, but they are the 31st ranked scoring offense in football. I don't think that you're going to see such an ascension just because they're playing the Raiders that all of those guys are going to have value. Right. We don't agree that David Johnson, Larry vs Gerald Christian Kirk and. And you know you're going to have the highest level of certainty from David Johnson. And beyond that, you are risking something with the 31st ranked scoring offense in the league.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, sure. You're definitely capped. Doug Martin, would you rather play? Sorry, but I just want to stay on tight end. Would you rather play Jared Cook on the opposite side of the ball or Ricky Seals Jones?

[Jason Moore]

I would probably. I would definitely play Jared Cook. I would definitely play Jared Cook. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean I've got Ricky Seals Jones higher in my rankings. I think the upside is with like I, I think Ricky Seals Jones could have a great game. I don't think Jared Cook has a great game, but Jared Cook's floor is much, much safer to me than Ricky Seals Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Probably.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not a rankings based thing. I would probably go Cook for.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they're very similar, but just with the pass catchers being down on one side, more guaranteed targets. I feel like for Cook, if you want safety like you said, Doug Martin or Jalen Richard, the running backs for Oakland, you know, we've talked about, look, every game the rest of the season that Oakland plays, the perception is going to be it's going to be a quote unquote, this is a Richard game because they're going to be down. So I don't think that that narrative is going to work.

[Mike Wright]

It's a Richard season.

[Jason Moore]

It's a Richard season right now with the past, you know you're going to be trailing.

[Mike Wright]

I'd play Martin.

[Jason Moore]

Doug Martin's averaging 83.3 yards from scrimmage in his three starts. And that's why I would play.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going with Martin. He's getting volume. And we talked about the Cardinals. They have a chance, but they're not putting huge amounts of points up on anybody. It would be a shocking relevation.

[Jason Moore]

Sunday morning to relevation.

[Andy Holloway]

Relevation.

[Mike Wright]

That's a. That's a weird word that I.

[Jason Moore]

That is really weird.

[Mike Wright]

That's how you, you relevate and detonate. I learned that from the Suns broadcast.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The Rocky Mountains have a really high relevation.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Relative to other mountain ranges. Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

We figured it out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I like how you repeated it at the end. Like you're in a spelling bee.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Revelation. Can I get the etymology of the word, please?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. The Rocky Mountains are, you know, relativating.

[Mike Wright]

Speaking origin. Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Coining new words. But what I meant to say is to turn on the tv. Well, first of all, if your TV doesn't black out the game just for being so gross, I don't blame your provider if they just say you're not allowed to watch the game. But if you turned it on and the Cardinals are ahead by two touchdowns or more, that would be shocking. So I think that it's a. Doug Martin.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we live in a free country, Mike, so I would prefer a prompt that just says, would you like to change the channel? Would you like to watch Andy Griffith reruns in the corner of the screen?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Bring some joy in your life.

[Jason Moore]

The three and six Broncos take on the seven and two Chargers. Chargers seven point home favorites 46 and a half point over under. You have some must starts in this game named Philip Rivers, Melvin Gordon, Keenan Allen. Those are your must starts on the Los Angeles side. On the Denver side is Philip Lindsay a must start. Royce Freeman is returning. He practiced in full on Thursday. The matchup is difficult. You're on the road.

[Mike Wright]

I would say he is a must start this week. I mean, he's been fantastic. First of all, the matchup is. It's, it's still okay. Like it's not the absolute worst. But with all the teams on by, I think Lindsey's firmly entrenched in the running back two area.

[Jason Moore]

Here's a wild stat and rich rebar post this. Chargers are allowing the least rushing yards per game at home in the league. On the road, they're 26. So they're giving up 131 yards per game on the road, on the ground, and only 74 at home. It's just interesting to see that breakdown because you would think those things would be slightly closer together.

[Mike Wright]

I've been told that defense travels right apparently not.

[Jason Moore]

Not in the case of Los Angeles. Maybe you could argue they're always on the road. Fair point with respect to the crowd. But bigger questions for this game. Look, moving away from mustard players, you're not setting Melvin Gordon or Keenan Allen. Let's talk about Cortland Sutton for a moment. Right now we don't love the matchup from our rankings. I think the future is bright for Cortland Sutton. He was 3 for 57 on five targets against Houston without Demarius Thomas. But right now he's outside our upper echelon guy.

[Andy Holloway]

After this week. I love Cortland Sutton. I mean, this is his last difficult matchup if memory serves me, for the rest of the season, everything is smooth sailing. This is not a good one. I mean, the Chargers have a good secondary. They're 10th on the season. They're even better if you look at the last six weeks. They're the third most difficult matchup for wide receivers to go up against. So I don't love Cortland Sutton on the road against a tough opponent. You know, this is more, you know, Jeff Heirman might need to be a little bit more involved. He has been involved. And you know, I brought up last week, part of that was the quick dump offs all over the defensive line because you were going up against J.J. wadge, Davion Clowney. Well, I don't think Joey Bosa is back yet.

[Jason Moore]

But they've got a good idea with Melvin Ingram.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was going to say they've got a good pass rush still and Hyruman might need to be involved. So he's like one of the. Would you rather play Higherman or Seals Jones or Jared Cook? Like is he in that mix?

[Mike Wright]

He's in the mix but he's the third option of there.

[Jason Moore]

Emmanuel Sanders.

[Mike Wright]

You play Emmanuel Sanders. The interesting thing will be what do they do with Casey Hayward. DB for the Los Angeles Chargers. An absolute shutdown corner. But Sanders plays a lot of the time in the slot. Will they have Casey follow him into the slot? I do not know. I cannot tell you.

[Jason Moore]

The four and five Eagles traveling to New Orleans to take on the Saints. The Saints are eight and a half point favorites.

[Mike Wright]

Don't do it.

[Jason Moore]

It's a 56 point over under.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Andy's almost upset of the week. I love it.

[Jason Moore]

This almost upset comes to you from relevation from sponsored by elevation. No, this comes from the fact that Eagles are a well coached team coming off a pretty tough defeat. And I think they make this game closer than this 8 1/2 point line. Maybe they even steal one in New Orleans. I know New Orleans is on fire right now. That's a huge over under. It doesn't affect the way I'm treating the start situation for New Orleans. Of course you are. Must starting. Alvin Camara, Drew Brees, Michael Thomas. But I think it's going to be a very competitive game and I think you're going to see some fireworks from the Philadelphia offense. They're going to figure some things out. Carson Wentz & Co. Alshon Jeffrey, I love him this week. Golden Tate, according to Doug Peterson, much further along this week than last week is going to have a bigger role in the offense that's going to help him. And then Zach Hertz is a must start each and every week dominated last season last week. So you know the big question I think surrounded the running backs on Philadelphia and then Mark Ingram with the nice week last week. What happens this week against Philly?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Mark Ingram for me is a should start. I realize that the Eagles are a pretty good rush defense. They're middle of the pack over the last six weeks. But when you're at home with this high and over under favored by eight and a half points, that is a, that is as close to a must start running back situation as possible. Not to mention he's actually a really good running back. So I mean I can't imagine a situation. If you can benchmark Ingram and make the right call, then congratulations. You've got an awesome set of running backs ahead of him.

[Jason Moore]

Really? Okay, so I feel Eagles defense, they're at the, you know, in the upper echelon. Yeah, but you know they only give up 17.9 points per game on the season to running backs. What's the last few weeks?

[Andy Holloway]

The last six weeks they are 16th ranked so they're right in the middle and they've had some injuries on their defense.

[Mike Wright]

They're in their defense, I think.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play Lindsay or would you play Mark Ingram?

[Andy Holloway]

I would play Mark Ingram.

[Mike Wright]

I'll play Mark Ingram.

[Jason Moore]

You both agree on that one?

[Mike Wright]

For me, talking just down to game script, this will come down to how well does Carson Wentz play on on the road? Because they're going to have to keep up. The Saints are going to put up points. I think Drew Brees is going to have a monster game. Ronald Darby, cornerback for the Philadelphia Eagles, he is out with the torn acl. They are banged up in the secondary. Michael Thomas is going to. It's going to be an all you can eat buffet and targets are on the menu.

[Jason Moore]

If that's the case, what do you do with the very disappointing performance from Trequan Smith last week where he fully goosed and he's only averaging three targets and 21 yards a game since that two touchdown game?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, I've been looking into him because he is a flyer where I think he's worth the risk. I mean, could he go out there and have, you know, 15 yards and one reception? Sure. But he has as high a probability to me of having a 50 yard touchdown as any other player in the league this year.

[Mike Wright]

Trey Kwon or Tyrell Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm a Tyrell Williams. I would put Tyrell ahead. He's had more opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

What about Tate in the same game?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I would go Treekwon over Tate.

[Jason Moore]

I would take Tate.

[Andy Holloway]

We still don't know Tate's involvement. He was clearly behind Jordan Matthews last week. Now, that's understandable. First week in and they're going to get him more involved. Maybe this is the week. But since I don't know that and there's the upside with Trey Kwon, I see the potential for a good game from Trey Kwon.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, where do you sit between those two?

[Mike Wright]

I would play Traekwon.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to give Golden Tate one more week to acclimate to the offense.

[Jason Moore]

Alshon Jeffrey still averaging 8.7 targets per game. I expect him to have a better game against this Saints defense that is still dead last in the league against opposing wide receivers giving up almost 40 fantasy points a game. You always start Carson Wentz right now he's the quarterback four in fantasy points per game since week four. And we all have him at number four for the week. So I think we all hope as fantasy owners for the shootout that is being expected by Vegas.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Adams, Wendell Smallwood, Corey Clement. Put those in order.

[Mike Wright]

Adams. Adams. Clement. Smallwood.

[Jason Moore]

If there was an Adams none of the above. Or if there was none of the above.

[Mike Wright]

D of none of the above, I would take that.

[Andy Holloway]

I would take none of the above. And I think I would put Smallwood ahead of Clement. Just from. If this turns into a shootout and they need to get a pass, catcher Smallwood is better to your point in that role.

[Jason Moore]

I would stash Josh Adams. If I'm a fantasy owner, I would. I'm telling you, go stash Josh Adams. There's an opportunity here to tuck him on your bench for the week. I'm not saying you go play him. He's averaged 6.25 yards per carry. Doug Peterson wants To get him more involved. There's an opportunity against a defense that's not, you know, they've been better of late, but they're, they're not the best in the league. I think if you stash them, they could be really happy after this.

[Andy Holloway]

I really like your call of the almost upset because this is a team.

[Jason Moore]

That they need a win.

[Andy Holloway]

While their record says that they are, you know, going to have a difficult road to the playoffs. Their division says, look, the Washington Redskins are kind of imploding injury wise and they're the division leader. It's, it's anyone's race right now. They need this win.

[Jason Moore]

They need the win. I think It'll be competitive. 5, 3 and 1. The Vikings Sunday Night Football taking on the Bears. Bears are six and three. They're at home and they're two and a half point favorites. So Vegas giving the, the nod to Chicago.

[Andy Holloway]

Respect.

[Jason Moore]

The respect is the division. Sure that doesn't always matter.

[Andy Holloway]

Doesn't always.

[Jason Moore]

But have you seen the lines for Washington in recent weeks? Leading the division doesn't matter. But 44 and a half point over under, that is a low over under. You've got a couple of ferocious defenses and a couple of, you know, questionable. This is a situation.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a scary game to me for fantasy. When I look at this game, I am very fearful because it's division with the Vikings defense has been getting better and better. The Bears defense is great, but there's so many fantasy relevant players here. Mitch has been good. Kirk Cousins is usually started. Jordan Howard, Adam, I mean you have so many.

[Mike Wright]

You go to Jordan Howard like you didn't. You could have gone like Adam Thielen.

[Andy Holloway]

Keep going. Put it in the right order, Diggs. But my point is there are, there's 10 players in this game that are going to be in a lot of lines.

[Mike Wright]

Does that list have Jordan Howard on it?

[Andy Holloway]

Of course it does.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so there's nine players.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, sure. Agree to disagree. But the point is, I mean Vegas doesn't have this as a huge over under and I, I took the under on my predictions. You know, I could see this game going either way. But if this is a defensive, you know, cold weather, it's 28 degrees is the expectation right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think I have every running back on both teams lower than the consensus because of the over under, because of the stout defensive fronts, because of the fact that this is going to be a lower scoring affair. I mean you're at 44 and a half point over under both backfields. You're going to see a little bit of a split, right? I mean, Dalvin Cook, we expect to be.

[Mike Wright]

I think this is the week that Dalvin Cook takes over.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Taking over, though, this week is going to be difficult against Chicago Fair and Jordan Howard. Tariqohen. Look, the Bears running backs have averaged 3.1 yards per carry since Week 7. And you have an offensive coordinator who is content to say, well, if you're going to run at that clip, I'm just not going to run. I'm just not going to run it as much. So, you know, Alan Robinson, you're starting him if you got him. Adam Thielen, you're starting him. If you got him. Stefan Diggs. Yeah, he's going to be out there. You know, how do you feel about Cousins versus Trubisky in this matchup? Mike, you're the lowest on Trubisky right now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but I would still rather play Trubisky over Kirk Cousins.

[Jason Moore]

You would?

[Mike Wright]

Yes, for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Just being the home matchup or the home matchup.

[Mike Wright]

And like you said, if so, is he. If it's actually a lower scoring game, which it certainly could be. I'd rather have the quarterback who could give me 50 yards on the ground.

[Jason Moore]

Do you want to go official sit for Kirk Cousins this week?

[Mike Wright]

He is for me.

[Jason Moore]

We have him at QB18. I think that's an official sit.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's my quarterback. 19. That's not sit of the week. Not what you want. I mean, this is a game where you, you said it. You're. You're starting most of these players, but you need to temper your expectations, maybe swing for the fences with your other flex players and hope you get lucky and that there's somehow a shootout that. Because they, they both have good offenses here. I think the biggest question is the running.

[Jason Moore]

Is Jordan Howard who wins the game?

[Andy Holloway]

I've got the Bears taking it down at home.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'll take the Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

But do you start?

[Jason Moore]

I'll go with Minnesota Howard. I'll go with.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

Do I start Jordan Howard? I try not to.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I really try not to.

[Jason Moore]

That's my policy.

[Andy Holloway]

He's my running back.

[Jason Moore]

If I have to, I will. But my policy is try not to.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Howard or Peyton Barber.

[Mike Wright]

I think I have Peyton Barber. Yeah, I have Peyton Barber. One spot ahead right now of Jordan Howard.

[Andy Holloway]

I have Jordan Howard ahead of Peyton, but I mean, that's the tier we're talking about.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would, I would take Jordan Howard and hope he falls over into the end zone a Couple of times.

[Mike Wright]

Derek Henry or Jordan Howard?

[Jason Moore]

I'll take Jordan Howard.

[Andy Holloway]

GROSS Howard.

[Jason Moore]

The 9 and 1 Chiefs take on the 9 and 1 Rams Monday Night Football 63 and a half point over under. The Rams are 3 and a half point favorites. I didn't even feel like this was like when I was consulting my, you know, the oracles that I consult. I didn't even consider this one as a. I would be allowed to make it an almost upset because obviously the Chiefs can win this ball game. It's going to be a high scoring affair. Look, Tyreek, Kareem Hunt, Patrick Mahomes, Jared Goff, Todd Gurley, Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods. Those are your must starts. So what do we need to talk about?

[Andy Holloway]

There is literally how fun this game is going to be. There's nothing to talk about in this game. If you have a player in this game, you start him. I guess the Josh Reynolds like that's, that's the only.

[Jason Moore]

And Sammy Watkins.

[Andy Holloway]

You start Sammy Watkins there. You do. Yes, you start Sammy. But this game has a 63 and a half point over under. And I could have closed my eyes and said whatever number it is, I'm taking the over. I don't care. You want me.

[Jason Moore]

Watkins is a wide receiver too this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

But the, the problem is the injury of. He's the Monday night game. We think he's going to play. He's expected to play. But what happens if you get to Monday night and then all of a sudden you have to pivot? Then you throw Josh Reynolds or Chris Conley.

[Jason Moore]

He's exceptionally probable. Like Watkins is on the, on the very, very, very probable side of things.

[Mike Wright]

He's exceptional.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's exceptionally probable. He's relevatory.

[Andy Holloway]

The only relevant. The only way that I would relevate.

[Jason Moore]

Him in my rankings.

[Andy Holloway]

The only way that Watkins doesn't play this week is if he has a setback.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

And you'll know that before Sunday that Brooks is like giving me the. I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

I'm more with Mike. You got to have a backup.

[Andy Holloway]

You're Mr. Think that Watkins is playing.

[Jason Moore]

I don't want a gooser to have.

[Andy Holloway]

A make you lose the week. How many have a backup plan of Josh Reynolds? That's fine.

[Jason Moore]

Now do you. Have you ever used gps, Brooks? Yes. How many backup maps do you have in your car? You seem like maybe you'd have two or three backup maps. Oh yeah, I got the atlas. Yeah, yeah. No, I. Look, if you, if you don't feel comfortable, you want a backup, go for It Josh Reynolds is the ideal backup. Or Chris Conley.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to say. You prefer Reynolds over Chris Conley?

[Andy Holloway]

I prefer Reynolds over Chris Conley, yes. But I'm fine with either.

[Mike Wright]

I think I would go Conley if Watkins is actually out.

[Andy Holloway]

I just love that this game was actually moved to Los Angeles. I was worried about, okay, it's going to be high relevation in Mexico. The field conditions were poor. Both.

[Mike Wright]

But relevant to what? To where?

[Jason Moore]

Relevant to what?

[Andy Holloway]

But the fact that this is in Los Angeles, that city's going to be amped up. I mean, I just. If this game hits the under, I'll shed a tear.

[Jason Moore]

I realize the ticket situation for this game is so bad that on Thursday Night Football they have to announce that there's still tickets available for it to help out because it was a late shift. Right. Like, I mean, you don't have. And they gave away props to the league for doing this. They gave away tons of tickets to first responders who had come out to support those going through the. Obviously fight the fires, protect homes, protect people. And then tons of those people are going to the game. But there are tickets available because it was a late shift.

[Mike Wright]

Los Angeles.

[Andy Holloway]

If I was living in Los Angeles, there is zero percent chance I'm not at this game. Like, this is going to be a blast. It better be.

[Jason Moore]

Any injury updates since the show started, Brooks? Anything new that you are aware of? Just Mixon is participating in the walkthrough, but I can't tell if that's like limited or full practice yet. Is he jogging through the walkthrough or walking through the walkthrough? Participating. Participating.

[Andy Holloway]

So I guess participation ribbon. I hope so.

[Jason Moore]

See, I feel like, bro, I asked Brooks about injury updates and now I'm. Now I'm deciding that he's like the spider from Game of Thrones where he's got his little birds out there with information. Any of your little birds letting you know about anything, Brooks?

[Mike Wright]

No, nothing.

[Jason Moore]

Nothing yet. Anybody? We need a backup plan for Sammy Watkins. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Well, you never know. Do you have a backup to the backup?

[Andy Holloway]

He's got Conley and Josh Reynolds.

[Mike Wright]

Good for you, boy scout.

[Jason Moore]

Stashed them both. All right. No injury updates since. So we'll go ahead and get into the Daily Dose.

[Andy Holloway]

The Daily Dose brought to you by draft.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Each and every Friday this season we are jumping in a quick three person draft. 1v1v1. Mike, are you going QB only for us this week? Is that what we're doing?

[Mike Wright]

I did.

[Jason Moore]

I went Those are pretty fun.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And there's. There are two really good picks and I'm picking third.

[Jason Moore]

The QB only drafts are my favorite to do just because we are such not top heavy QB type of analysts. There are three fun to get to take.

[Andy Holloway]

There are three great picks here, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Don't make the wrong one.

[Mike Wright]

All right? I won't.

[Andy Holloway]

I get the first pick. My, my rankings up until this morning actually had were the were the same at the top as Andy's. But there's no way I'm not taking Drew Brees in that game at home. He's throwing really 80%.

[Mike Wright]

I figured Drew Brees was the guy I would end up with.

[Jason Moore]

Drew Brees actually shifted to my number one this morning based on all of the different adjustments going on. I will go with Patrick Mahomes.

[Mike Wright]

You're not taking your start of the week. Oh, I am.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, you talking about Eli Manning?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Jared Garth.

[Jason Moore]

People don't. People still didn't understand yesterday when I said look, I'd still if I had golf in Mahomes. I play Mahomes, but my projections say that they're razor thin and Goff has a couple more points. That's an average. If you're looking for who has the chance to throw six touchdowns, which is how I play fantasy football, it's still Mahomes.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Because of the Tyree kill effect.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so I was on the. I was on the turn. So I got Jared Goff and I also took Mr. Booty Scoot and Cam Newton against Detroit.

[Andy Holloway]

And I am one pick away and I will be very upset here in a second.

[Mike Wright]

He's trying to. You know who he's trying to take.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I had my thoughts but I.

[Mike Wright]

Ended up gave it to him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I did. I took Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I am so happy with that. I want Carson Wentz. I want both sides of that Drew Brees and Carson Wentz back and forth game. I will be very happy with that. And I'm going to take a guy who's just look, it doesn't matter his matchup. He's been on fire. True in Andrew Luck. Andrew Luck's been everything we hoped he would be coming back off of that.

[Jason Moore]

Injury and credit to him for doing that. I'm going to take Dak Prescott solely for the purpose of softening the blow of Jason playing him against me in our league of record. I know he's going to be good, so I want to know that I got something out of it when I'm beaten by him.

[Mike Wright]

And on this turn, I went with the cheeseburger and a helmet. Mr. Ben Roethlisberger.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

That was. That's your.

[Jason Moore]

That's it. Well, it's absolutely true, but when you say it out loud, it sounds.

[Mike Wright]

Sounds mean.

[Jason Moore]

Sounds very.

[Andy Holloway]

Sounds pretty mean.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you father me cheeseburger in a helmet.

[Andy Holloway]

That is pretty true.

[Mike Wright]

He's real good at football. And a Sean Watson.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I. Ooh.

[Mike Wright]

You're taking the risk.

[Jason Moore]

I'm taking Ryan Fitzpatrick. Looking for some Fitzmagic.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's always the bench risk.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going with Philip Rivers out of order of my rankings, but I'm still going to take the guy that was ahead of him in Mitchell Trubisky. I am worried about that Bears Minnesota Vikings game being low, but look, Mitch has been on fire. And like you said, Mike, he could very easily have 50 rushing yards, which in fantasy football, stupidly, is the equivalent of like 3,000 passing yards.

[Jason Moore]

That's a.

[Andy Holloway]

That's perfect math.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Rebel. What was. What's the word?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't even remember your stupid word.

[Mike Wright]

Go. Let it die.

[Andy Holloway]

Let it die. All right, what are our teams? I've got Drew Brees, Carson Wentz, Andrew Luck, Phillip Rivers, and Mitchell Trubisky.

[Jason Moore]

My final pick was Eli Manning, by the way, because.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on.

[Jason Moore]

Because he's playing Tampa Holmes, Ryan Prescott, Fitzpatrick and Eli. So I got Fitzpatrick and Eli in the same matchup. I'm going for matchup plays this week.

[Mike Wright]

Goff, Newton, Roethlisberger, Watson, and I finished it up with Marcus Mariota against the Indianapolis Colts. The matchup, yeah, is, oh, so delightful. Before we close out the show, I want to remind you about fanduel. It's never been more fun or easy. It's the place to play. If you're not a fantasy expert. Go check out the gridiron Pick them contest every week. Like I said, simple. Just pick a winner. Just pick a winner and split some cash. New users get that $5 bonus when they make their first deposit on FanDuel. Come play with [e-mail] fantasy footballers. That's FanDuel.com fantasy footballers.

[Jason Moore]

All right, you guys got your. Get your Christmas trees up already.

[Mike Wright]

You're darn right I do.

[Jason Moore]

Christmas tea, Christmas tree.

[Andy Holloway]

Check. We do not have ours up because shame on you. No, not shame on me, because you're.

[Mike Wright]

Getting a new tree.

[Andy Holloway]

We are getting a new tree.

[Mike Wright]

Okay?

[Andy Holloway]

It is already being shipped. It gets here. I think tomorrow we had like a nine foot tree and I said 12. What is this garbage? I need a 12 foot tree. We're rearranging our house and moving our dining room table.

[Mike Wright]

Cutting a little notch in your room.

[Andy Holloway]

So that we can be in the hot. The higher ceiling area and put a Christmas tree there. It's all.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I like to hear.

[Jason Moore]

I think I'm gonna put the lights up this way. Yeah, I think this weekend. Which means 50, 50 shot. I'm not here on Monday. My ladder skills have declined equally to age increase. Yeah, it's. It's even exponential at this point. Like every year that goes by in life, my skills get four times worse on a ladder.

[Andy Holloway]

They really need to make that Christmas lights gun from the Jim King from the Grinch.

[Jason Moore]

Shoot him up.

[Andy Holloway]

I would decorate my house like crazy.

[Jason Moore]

It's just crazy because I was thinking yesterday we've been. This is just musing on life. But I saw that free solo movie in theaters which is Alex Honnold climbs El Capitan in Yosemite which without a rope, without a rope. Three thousand feet, three and a half hours. It's insane. The movie's great. I loved it. Not a sponsor, but I've been watching these interviews with him and he talks about being a kid and how he used to like climb up on the roof. And I used to do that all the time. Like heights were no object to me. From the years of, from when I was a newborn baby, I was climbing things until I was like, you know, 16 years old. And from that point on it's been a downhill. I got halfway up a ladder one time. I tried to hang them on a two story and I borrowed the ladder from the neighbor, right. So he brings it over and he's watching me. And in front of my neighbor, I can't get halfway up this ladder. Something happened. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You want to know what it is?

[Jason Moore]

What? Tell me. Fatherhood.

[Mike Wright]

No. As you age, your understanding of gravity grows.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

And you realize you're not supposed to go up there. Like there is a foundational force that.

[Jason Moore]

Says your parents, your kids want a father.

[Mike Wright]

It should be stay on the ground.

[Andy Holloway]

It should become socially acceptable. And a current business practice from the companies that rent this to allow cherry pickers to be what is used for putting up. Like I would do that. I would decorate the heck out of my house if I could stand in one of those boxes and just be lifted up.

[Jason Moore]

I want my neighbor to look across the street and see me hammering in anchors like a mountain climber. And I've got rope and I've got anchors, I've got a chalk bag on your hands, a chalk bag on the back. And he's like, why you're going up eight feet, sir? And I'm like, yeah. And I am secure, sir.

[Mike Wright]

Did you try using your tippy toes?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Would you mind?

[Andy Holloway]

Are you going to use a belay on the ladder just in case you fall?

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to ask a neighbor to come over and hold the rope for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantastic. Hey, if you want to hear I'm a man. If you want to hear more, Greg Williams told me so musings that aren't fantasy football. We do have another podcast, the Spitballers podcast, where we do would you rather questions and do mock drafts. It's a fun time.

[Mike Wright]

Very, very fun. And hey, bookland, don't forget booklandvote.com we still need your support there. Good luck this weekend. Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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