Week 11 Studs & Duds + My Guy Redemption Tour - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/17

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast – Week 11 Studs & Duds + My Guy Redemption Tour

Date: November 17, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright
Episode Theme:
A wild and injury-ridden Week 11 with low median scores, shocking duds, huge breakout performances, a "My Guy" redemption tour, and a heavy focus on navigating fallout from a brutal week for fantasy rosters.

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Episode Overview

This episode opens with the hosts lamenting a “truly insane,” injury-heavy Week 11 that saw more fantasy teams than usual have disastrous scores due to both injuries and lackluster performances from big names. At the same time, select "My Guys" enjoyed vindication with breakout weeks. The show covers the wild swings of Week 11, dives into the biggest “Studs and Duds,” provides context on controversial NFL news and injuries, and offers early advice on coping with the week’s fallout.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Week 11 Chaos: Low Scores and Injuries

• Theme: An unusually low median scoring week, with injuries rocking rosters.
• Format Note: The hosts explain “median leagues” where half the league's score matters for an extra win/loss. Median in their main leagues plummeted to 92 points (03:21), compared to typical weeks (~125).
• “It was a have and have not situation. Your team struggled...there were a lot, like six or seven, other teams in the same boat.” – Jason (03:24)
• Week included a heavy personal tone—Andy (A) went “all in” and traded for Rome Odunze, passing on Tet McMillan, then watched McMillan have a monster game (04:48).

2. Monday Punday & Listener Reactions

• Segments of not-so-lighthearted humor on Week 11 player puns.
• Sample: “Nico Ballin,” “Meat Higgins,” “Quinshawn Butkins,” “Devonte Whiff.” (06:27–07:16)
• The volume of “sad” or “dud”-themed puns reflected the rough week for many managers.

3. NEWS: Notable Incidents, Suspensions, and INJURIES

• Jamar Chase–Jalen Ramsey Incident:

  • On-field scuffle included Chase spitting on Ramsey (08:22–09:30), suggesting Chase may serve a suspension.
  • “He spit on him pretty clearly.” – Mike (09:24)

• Major Injuries: (10:01–18:41)

  • Sam LaPorta: On IR, out at least 4 games (10:11).
  • JK Dobbins: Season-ending Lisfranc injury (10:23).
  • Jaylen Warren: Ankle injury, but could have returned; Gainwell exploded (11:22).
  • Aaron Rodgers: Left wrist injury, possible fracture—pushing to play (11:34).
  • Drake London: PCL sprain, OUT Week 12 and “potentially more.” (16:42)
  • Michael Penix: Likely season-ending knee injury (12:24–12:43).
  • Josh Jacobs: Left knee injury—uncertain but not believed to be season ending (13:47).
  • Calvin Ridley: Came back, broke fibula, likely season ending (14:07).
  • Other notable injuries: Chimray DK (concussion), Kamani Vidal, Bash Tootin, Dylan Gabriel, Amari D. Mercado, Tyler Higbee, and others.

• General Take: The week's major theme is a “red light week”—“the bloodbath of the week.” – Mike (14:30)

4. Studs: Week 11 Breakout Performances (20:43–34:31)

Quarterbacks

• Josh Allen: 6 total TDs; “This is the week you want if you got him, and the week you fear if you’re facing him.” – Jason (21:03)
• Bryce Young: Surprise 31 points.
• Jacoby Brissette: Set an NFL record for completions (47). “He didn’t have Harrison, so he turned Michael Wilson into the league leader in total receiving yards in a game.” – Jason (23:34)
• Brock Purdy & Justin Fields: Respectable outputs; Purdy’s connection with George Kittle remains strong.

Running Backs

• Sean Tucker: Breakout game; “Looked amazing... more impressive was the receiving game.” – Mike (24:31)
• Christian McCaffrey, Trayvon Henderson, Bijan Robinson: “All your dudes are doing it this week” (25:11)
• Gainwell, ETN, Derrick Henry, Achane, James Cook, Charbonnet, Ken Walker, Jameer Gibbs, Singletary/Spears: Notable solid or multi-TD performances.

Wide Receivers

• Tet McMillan: 8/130/2, headline for the “My Guy Redemption Tour.”
• Michael Wilson: 15/185 on 18 targets (28:22–28:31)
• Nico Collins, Christian Watson: Big games with backup QBs.
• Jameson Williams (JMO): 4/88/1, third straight week with a TD; “The window is cracked open for [JMO] to be a league winner.” – Andy (30:18)

Tight Ends

• Trey McBride: Five straight weeks with a TD, “Jacoby Brissette realizes the best tight end in football can also catch touchdowns.” – Mike (31:25)
• George Kittle, Travis Kelce, Mark Andrews: Notable weeks.
• AJ Barner: 10/70 on 11 targets, possible waiver wire discussion.
• Darnell Washington: “The coolest, most dog play of all time… He takes the souls of three [defenders].” – Andy (33:06)

5. Duds: Shocking Letdowns (34:31–57:10)

• Lamar Jackson: “Just 193 passing yards. Barely ran the ball.” – Jason (35:30)

• Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, JJ McCarthy: Offenses stifled by great defenses or weather

• Big WR Letdowns:

  • Jamar Chase: 3/30, now possibly suspended.
  • Amon-Ra St. Brown: 2/42 on 12 targets. "12 targets for Amon-Ra is normally 11 catches … fewest catches on 12 targets since Josh Doctson in 2017.” – Jason (51:46)
  • **Rome Odunze, Christian McCaffrey, Gadsden—underwhelming lines despite target volume.
  • Devonta Smith, Devonte Adams: Only one catch for each, both top WRs.
  • Justin Jefferson: 5/61; “The concern is very real. Like when you look through the game log, he's got two incredible games, and those were Carson Wentz games.” – Mike (55:01)
  • DK Metcalf: 5/49; “He makes a big old first down symbol and you're like, let's go, Metcalf. And then poof.” – Jason (54:16)
  • Ricky Pearsall: Zero yards; Andy (after the goose-egg): “I’m happy to play Ricky Pierceall going forward. That’s my opinion after a tremendously bad fantasy game.” (57:10)

• RB Letdowns:

  • Quinshon Judkins: “This shows the limitations...17 for 59...just one of those games.” – Andy (44:44)
  • RJ Harvey: “First game without Dobbins… he didn't do much with [touches], but if those numbers continue–good things will happen.” – Mike (46:26)
  • Montgomery, Woody Marks, Nick Chubb, Pollard, Spears: Lackluster showings.

6. Weather & Game Environment

• Heavy winds and defensive dominance made for “ugly, unwatchable games,” but also highlighted that not all defensive battles deliver compelling TV. (37:46–38:20)
  • “Sometimes, there are low-scoring games where the offenses suck … every now and then… two defenses look so incredible… and that game stunk, man. No one enjoyed that.” – Andy (37:46)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “This week sucked, man. This week was truly insane...injury wise, horrifically bad for a lot of teams out there.” – Mike (01:44)
• “There was a have and have not situation...which is going to allow Al Borland to get a stupid median win and continue to stave off watering, no matter how many points my team scores.” – Jason (03:24)
• “Jamar Chase was unaware that this game was being filmed. I mean, how many cameras you got on this?” – Andy (08:22)
• “If you played Brissette and Michael Wilson, you were fine like me.” – Jason (02:09)
• “My guy redemption tour continued in a big way ... George Kittle, Travion and Jameson had big weeks.” – Jason (03:49)
• “The window is cracked open for [JMO] to be a league winner.” – Andy (30:18)
• “Every single player on my team except for one scored five or fewer points.” – Andy (05:24)
• “Sean Tucker's life: it’s like, ah, great … he’s overtaken, and then Bucky’s gonna come back. Right to the bench.” – Andy & Mike (25:02)
• “DK Metcalf doesn't have big boy pants anymore...he’s got wee baby toddler pants.” – Mike (53:59)
• “The concern is very real … he's got two incredible games, and those were Carson Wentz games.” – Mike, on Justin Jefferson (55:01)
• “McCaffrey… eat the Cardinals lunch that the Cardinals had to pay for out of their own pocket.” – Andy (56:45)

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Important Timestamps & Segments

| Segment | Topic/Player/Focus | Timestamp | |--------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Week 11 theme | Low median scores, injury carnage | 01:44 | | Median scoring | What it means, how it shaped this week | 02:21–03:24| | Trades gone wrong | Andy’s Rome Odunze over Tet McMillan decision | 04:38–05:07| | Monday Punday | Listener-submitted puns | 06:08–07:16| | Jamar Chase news | Spitting incident, potential suspension | 08:22–09:30| | Major injuries | LaPorta, Dobbins, Drake London, Michael Penix, others | 10:11–18:41| | Stud Muffins | Studs at each position (Allen, Brissette, McMillan, Wilson, McBride) | 20:43–34:31| | Duds & Disappointments | Major fantasy letdowns (Lamar, Goff, Amon-Ra, Chase, Jefferson, DK) | 34:31–57:10|

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Fantasy Takeaways and Action Points

• Injury Fallout: Many top players are out or risk missing time. Watch/drill waivers hard, particularly at WR and RB.
• My Guy Redemption: Several preseason favorites (McMillan, Henderson, Jameson Williams, Michael Wilson) are paying off at a crucial time, worth aggressive adds.
• QB Play: Streaming QBs against bad defenses is even more essential as so many teams now have untrustworthy starters.
• Weather/Defense: Monitor late-year weather—defensive battles and low passing output can sink even stud WRs/QBs.
• Usage Trends: For RBs and WRs with spiking opportunity shares, keep the faith (“RJ Harvey utilization was fantastic”) even when the box score busts.
• Don't Panic on All Duds: Andy is still firm on Ricky Pearsall’s role despite a zero; watch for bounce-backs, particularly with high-volume roles.

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Memorable Quote of the Week

"DK Metcalf doesn't have big boy pants anymore...he's got wee baby toddler pants." – Mike Wright (53:59)

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a catharsis for anyone who suffered through Week 11’s carnage. The hosts combine gallows humor, astute waiver priorities, and practical advice for dealing with an injury-ravaged fantasy landscape. They emphasize upside stashes, warn against overreacting to one-game duds, and provide context for dealing with suspensions, depth chart shakeups, and playoff pushes in a crucial fantasy stretch run.

Next Episode Teaser: Waiver priorities (especially at tight end and wide receiver) will be the main topic, with close attention paid to injury fallout and opportunities for My Guy breakouts.

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Transcript

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Oh, welcome in.

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With a little dirt on the end there.

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I don't know, man. It can't all be the same, Mike.

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Oh, I. I know it.

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Not all weeks are the same.

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Oh, this. This week?

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Yeah, this was a week. This week sucked, man. This week was truly insane because I feel like it's. It's weighted very heavily like this week, injury wise, horrifically bad for a lot of teams out there. Horrifically bad. And then. But then like, I mean, my team just crossed.

[B]

Like, if you played Brissette and Michael Wilson, you were fine like me.

[C]

That wasn't, that wasn't supposed to be the brag that it sounded like. It's more of the. There were many guys who went nuclear this weekend.

[B]

I saw it written out as week 11. We a K. Like, that's how. I mean, you can just look at like we play in median leagues, meaning.

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That those leagues are where you. You play where half of the league. What the score of half the league. You get a point for being on the.

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I'm glad you took over. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for jumping in.

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Hold up, hold up.

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Let me explain the unexplainable.

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Yeah. Okay.

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But yeah, so every, Every week there is a score of basically what the. The sixth best team scored. And it's usually around 125 points. Would you say for our league, it's average?

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Yeah, it's usually. It's just the league median, man.

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Not everybody plays in that format.

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Sixth best. I mean, it's just. We're all having a good time here. Listen, the point is Is the average score in leagues is way down this week. That's what the point was. Is the overall.

[A]

What was ours in our. What is it projected right now, like 108?

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Yeah, well, I mean, I think it might be lower than that.

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Yeah, it's at 92 or something.

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It's at 92 right now. And I think based on looking at the league, there were. It was a have and have not situation. Your team struggled. None of your players scored points. There were a lot. There were like six or seven other teams in the same boat, which is going to allow Al Borland to get a stupid median win and continue to stave off watering no matter how many points my team scores. Sorry, sorry. That became quite personal. But it was a. It was weird. And like you said, there were injuries, there were big performances, but there were a lot of duds. There were some, you know, my guy redemption tour continued in a big way. I mean, George Kittle, Travion and Jameson had big weeks. That's. It's nice.

[C]

Tet McMillan.

[B]

Yeah, Tet. Got into the end zone twice. We were just talking about him needing to have that game, and he did. Jason's been on the Ted McMillan, you know, Celebration Tour for three or four weeks, and you got a monster game from him. So there's some good to reflect on. We got all of your Monday punday situations.

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You know, I don't know if you are aware of this, but I went out this week and I traded everything for, you know, to go hard and win.

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Yeah, you went all in.

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And so one of my decisions.

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You're still above 500.

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One of my decisions was I went out and I traded away my third round pick for my choice of Roma Dunes A. Oh, no. Or Tet McCarthy.

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You could have taken Tet.

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Yeah.

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But I feel like the man.

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I preferred Rome. I wanted Rome. He's, you know, he's been a top 10 wide receiver. Well, at least this week I feel real bad about it.

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Well, I didn't know you had the choice. Yeah, well, I've been the Ted McMillan, Stan.

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Yeah. No, I chose to go to Rome for Rome. Yeah.

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Yeah. And now you are in a coliseum of sadness. Yeah, it'll get better. You had JT on, on, on by. You don't know what a week supposed to feel like. This is what it's like for everybody all the time.

[A]

Taylor leaves and my team's like, okay, we guys, we take this week off.

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Do you know how much heavy lifting he was doing?

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I mean, literally every single player on my team except for one scored five or fewer points. That's insane.

[B]

I wonder if that's happened a few other times. You didn't notice because Jonathan Taylor had 57 points. But we got all of your reactions and I will tell you, it was at least 4 to 5 to 1 negative pun submissions because of the way this week went to be.

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Holly and Jolly, right?

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No. So let's. Let's react with your submissions here. Monday punday for Monday, November 17th, week 11. Here we go. Let's get sophisticated. All right. Well, Jason, I'll let you start it off. Oh, all right.

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Well. Tetaroa McMillions.

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Yes.

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Hooray McBride.

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And Yavion Henderson.

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Travion Henderson. Okay.

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What about Christian McCaffrey? Three.

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Yeah, yeah. And this guy?

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Oh, how about this?

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Kenneth Runner iii. That's right.

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We knew it was going to happen. Mike.

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Yeah.

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Nico Ballin.

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Oh, Meat Higgins is back.

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Yeah. And Travis ETN Zone.

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Oh, and to infinity and Bijon and the bad we.

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Oh, no. Sham Darnold and Same Darnold Almond Raw St Clown. How dare you. Mecca Ekpa. What is happening?

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Justin Hertbert.

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R.J. hardly.

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And Ricky disappears all.

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That's a good one.

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Arande Sadston.

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Yeah. His teammate. Sad McConkie.

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Yeah, yeah. Woody farts. I. Come on.

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A lot of carries. Lame Marge action. Yeah.

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This is the best one. Quinshawn Butkins.

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Devonte whiff and get a whiff of that.

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Butkins.

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And Cade forgotten. Oh, man. Cade forgot.

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Thank you, Butkins.

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Instagram at Fantasy footballers at the ff. Ballers on X. Thank you for your good work.

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Whoever put that one in.

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Not bad, right?

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I don't know how they think of these things.

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No, it honestly takes a lot of effort for me not to put all. It's all button farts and poop and children out there. We would never. Let's talk some news.

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News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance. You see median scoring. I want to break this down a little bit. The sixth highest team. If you take the top five divide. Strike them out.

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Man, it was great because you took over. You just.

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I thought it was important for the people to understand.

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Like get out of the way.

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I got this.

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And also people still don't understand what it is.

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No.

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No.

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Clue.

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Goodness, no. Well, didn't think we'd have this happening.

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Oh, man.

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The league is now looking into a spitting incident that took place between Jamar Chase and Jalen Ramsey. Jamar Chase was unaware that this game was being filmed. I mean, how many cameras you got on this? Oh, I didn't spit. No, I didn't do that. I don't do that. Yeah, well, yeah, you did. Dude. This wasn't AI.

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I mean, so the.

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He could miss a game. I think he will, actually. Yeah.

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It. Jalen, if you missed it. Jamar Chase and Jalen Ramsey. Ramsey got the better of Jamar Chase all day. And Chase was getting frustrated. They're, you know, things are getting heated. He ends up Chase grabs Ramsey by the face mask and like is screaming at him. I was a little surprised that no, there was no flags there, but they let that one go. And then like two plays later, Ramsey does looks like what is the same thing, like grabs Chase's mask, but he also does a punch motion. He gets booted right away. And you're like, oh, well, I guess. I guess Jamar Chase got the better of Ramsey and now. Now there's videos of Chase's.

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Yeah, he spit on him pretty clearly.

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Spitting on Jalen Ramsey and because.

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Explain. What's spitting on someone is.

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So when you got. You've got this saliva and it's in your mouth, but you Sometimes you usually swallow.

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Usually.

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Sometimes. Sometimes. But then like if you were to do the opposite.

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Right.

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That. And then it goes out and project down. But that's what Jamar Chase did.

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Like, because Ramsey got kicked out of the game. And Jamar Chase, I would guess he will.

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Because they normally call that sometimes if you get kicked out, it's the game served almost.

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Yeah. So I'm. I'm guessing that Jamar will probably end up missing a game.

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All right, well, we'll see. We've avoided it long enough. It's injury assault time. Before the weekend began, Sam Laporta, we.

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Should have known it was coming.

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Sam laporta placed on IR with a back injury. So he's missing at least four games.

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That escalated quickly.

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Yeah, they went from like Wednesday, you're kind of limited and goodbye is hurting.

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And he's not going to play for a month.

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J.K. dobbins also placed on IR. It was a concern. It was a list Frank injury. It is a hip drop tackle to a list Frank.

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And it seems like it will be season ending. Certainly fantasy.

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He already underwent surgery.

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They are. I think they're hopeful that if they were to make the super bowl, which is. He could.

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Yeah, I saw that language too. But it's just that.

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Come on.

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What if you make it to the Super bowl because RJ Harvey took off.

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But the LaPorta injury especially again, we saw the Lions offense didn't do anything and Jameson Williams still had a monster game. So Laporta being out the priority to give. I mean it's like the most plain thing to see. The routes have changed. I mean that Jameson Williams is getting the ball on crossers.

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Yes.

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Where he's faster than everybody. This is how if you only threw the ball deep, only through the ball deep to Jalen Waddle. That's what they were doing with Jameson Williams to begin the year. When you get Jalen Waddle across the middle, he's faster than everybody.

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Use the speed.

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Jaylen Warren was evaluated for an ankle injury. He said this morning he could have returned. Oh, but Kenneth Gainwell got the majority of the snaps after the injury and went crazy again.

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Gainwell looked great.

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He really did.

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26 fantasy points for old Al Borland. Stupid pants over there. Aaron Rodgers exited early with a left wrist injury. Didn't return. Undergoing tests. I heard some concern of a slight fracture. This is left wrist.

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Yeah, it's his non throwing arm. He's pushing to play but we'll have to wait and see.

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We had a Mason Rudolph stache.

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Oh, he's got a mustache. It has to make him look better.

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Than what he looked like before. Looked like someone who's trying to disguise themselves.

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I'm not Mason Rudolph.

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Oh no. I'm Jason Rudolph. Drake London was injured but is not believed to have suffered a major knee injury. That's good news. Except Michael Panicks in the same game. There were multiple reports yesterday that said it's not believed that he suffered a major knee injury. And now this morning they didn't believe hard enough. Season ending knee injury potentially for Michael Pennix. He's seeking a second opinion which is always a bad sign. And it's going to be Kirk Cousins probably who I have confidence can lose as much as Michael Pinnick's.

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I think he can too. But I will say this, it feels very unfair for Kirk Cousins where it's like he's going to get now his second start and last time he had no Drake London for that start. Now it's like oh no Drake take a week off. You know this is not a major knee injury but like let's make Cousins look bad. Just it's going to be so bad.

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I forgot about that. Yeah, I would have a little bit of concerned that like it was just really good for Drake London with Michael Pennix whether the team like he had back to back number one weeks, Michael Penix. That's where he goes with the football. It's probably not the best thing to win the game. Is my thought. And Kirk Cousins is probably going to spread the ball around at least a little bit more. Like, not that you would bench Drake London. It's just when you're cruising at number one.

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Oh, yeah.

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You kind of don't want to change.

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No. Don't love it. And don't love it for Bijan because I think the offense is just worse with Cousins.

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Josh realize five of the last six games for Drake London. He has been a top five wide receiver on the week.

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That's exactly it. I don't think it gets. Stays there.

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No.

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Josh Jacobs. Just taking a look at Jason.

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Yeah.

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Exited early with the left knee injury. Undergoing more tests twice. He tried. Yeah, he tried to come back and then left again. They also believe he avoided a significant injury.

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I hope the same people were talking about panics.

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That doesn't mean you don't miss time. Just means you don't miss the season.

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Jordan Love, evaluated for concussion, came back to the game. Calvin Ridley came back for a minute and broke his fibula.

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Oh, man.

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Is that for the season?

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Oh, it was a bummer.

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Chimray DK left with a concussion, was ruled out at halftime. I even think iron manner got hurt in this game.

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So everyone got hurt.

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Kamani Vidal.

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Yeah. I mean, the red light week.

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Yeah. You hate to say it. He didn't return. Thigh injury. That whole team. I mean, they didn't. They didn't make the trip.

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No.

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I mean, that was the bloodbath of the week.

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The charges got shellacked and Justin Herbert was just getting beat up.

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Yeah. That offensive line is. There isn't one. Is that the offensive line that Pat McAfee was. I think that's the one that he was highlighting. Did you see that clip? I mean, because they. When they. When they introduced the offensive lineman, they show their PFF ranks and he went through the PFF ranks on. On the Chargers. And it was literally. It was like. And he did it in a really funny way, too. He's like, all right, you got Makai Becton here, 31 of 32. Then you got this guy, 29 of 29. Then you got this guy. He's 29 of 30. Like the offensive line or lack thereof. Now you have Justin Herbert that is getting.

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Yeah. I mean, Herbert got knocked out right before halftime. I mean, he got this thing with a full pile drive into the ground. Looked like he might have been shaken up. He came back, but, man, he was getting beat up.

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Good. Time for a bye week.

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Yeah.

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We have Dylan Gabriel leaving with a concussion. Where. And then Shador Sanders comes in.

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Oh, we got to see.

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That was the event.

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Do you realize, did you see the news this morning? Justina Anderson reporting. That was.

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That's got to be very positive for Shadow Sanders. She seems to like him.

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It was the very first snaps he's ever had with any of the first team offensive players.

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Yeah.

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So that's cool to do out there in the fourth.

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And I get it, you know Stefanski, that Dylan Gabriel, AKA Gillen Gabriel is your guy, but you still might want the backup QB to get some snaps and get some rest.

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No, it's ridiculous.

[C]

That seems very weird.

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But it's a good chance that he's going to start again this week.

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Kyle's reporting other backup qb, so that's pretty normal. I would think that if you have two rookies that you would want to at least get Sanders some of the.

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Reps. Yeah, it's very normal for your backup to not be taking first team reps. That makes sense. But it's not very normal for your starter to be Dylan Gabriel. You know what I mean? So like if that is your starter, you know, at some point you're, you're going to see the other guy.

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Oh, we have, we have an update. Drake London suffered a PCL spray. So he's out this week and potentially more.

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Is he on any of your teams?

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Yeah, my main dynasty wide receiver.

[B]

How'd that lead go? I didn't look at.

[A]

Did you win better than. I mean, nothing. Yeah, I'm going to win there, but okay. Yeah, nothing could have gone as bad as league of record.

[B]

The other injury news, because there's more. Amari D. Markado exited super early in the Cardinals game. Probably would have been pretty good considering there were 57 pass attempts and he would have caught some of them. Yeah, maybe instead 18 of those went to Michael Wilson. Tyler Higby, ankle injury. That's one you might want to keep a little bit of an eye on because the snap counts between Terrence Ferguson, the rookie tight end who I like a lot, and Higby were both around.

[C]

The 40% Mark and Colby was the one who ended up with a touchdown.

[B]

Oh yeah, you're right.

[A]

Revenge game.

[B]

Yeah. Bash all Tootin. He was good and then left with an ankle injury.

[C]

That one too will be. I'll have to like break some more things down, look more into it because Tutin was getting a lot of work. Like he was playing over the end.

[B]

It was very fast of the week by somebody this week. Or maybe not maybe.

[A]

I don't know. Let's See. Yeah. Because it was great.

[B]

Yeah. I was feeling bad about that because of the tutin involvement, but Jackson dart still in concussion protocol. C.J. stroud probably not ready to return. Maybe he won't be ready to return until they lose. Goodness, that might be it. There were some dots in that game by Davis Mills to win the game. I know he wasn't great the whole time. No, no, no. Big play, big throws, sideline ball to Nico. Nico is really good at football.

[C]

It's forever ago, but it's like General Mills before they drafted Stroud. He seemed like a guy who might get a chance to actually be a starter.

[B]

And I think his neck looks. It doesn't look longer.

[A]

Well, same length. Same or growing anymore.

[B]

Same or less. Maybe did some shoulder work.

[A]

I mean, gravity. He's just getting older.

[C]

You know what? He needs to just. He needs to work out only his traps.

[B]

Yeah. Traps only. Traps only. All right. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance caught [e-mail] progressive casualty insurance company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We're taking a break. Well needed. And we'll be back with the studs.

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[B]

All right. It wasn't all bad.

[A]

This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's.

[B]

Well, this is this one. This is the week you want if you got him, and the week you fear if you're facing him. It's Josh Allen for all of the touchdowns.

[C]

Six touchdowns.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

303 through the air, six for 40, and three on the ground.

[A]

This game was drunk because, first of all, the game went back and forth, lead change, every drive for the majority of the game. It was incredible football, but from a. From a fantasy perspective. You're telling me Josh Allen has six touchdowns. You're telling me Baker has a great game, and The Bills score 44 points and the Bucks score 32 points. And you're like.

[B]

But you can't.

[A]

But you're like, where did it go? Ibuka. Bad game.

[C]

Tez.

[A]

Tez. Bad game.

[B]

Kalush.

[A]

Bad game.

[B]

Nothing.

[C]

Zero.

[A]

Like anybody you would start had a bad game with 70, like, points scored out. Where did they go? Like I was like, it makes no sense. Where are the points? They're just leaking out the bucket.

[B]

Horrible.

[A]

Everybody. It makes no sense.

[B]

No, you're right. Well, one of the catches, the 42 yard touchdown was to a player who I can't remember or name right now for the Bills because they mixed up their entire wide receiver room. Shavers.

[A]

Keon. Yeah, Keon's benching.

[B]

Yeah, Keon was Gabe Davis. Now start. He's like, I've been here the whole time.

[A]

Tyrell Shavers.

[B]

Yeah. You know, spot. Start of the week. I'm sure if you go back to the tape, you'll find that Josh Allen. 42 fantasy points. Bryce Young.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

31 fantasy points.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

See, just throw touchdowns to Tet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you get fancy points.

[A]

Been trying to tell you.

[B]

Jacoby Brissette broke the seat the regular season record for total completions in a game with 47.

[A]

Not the Cardinals.

[B]

No, no, no. The NFL record.

[A]

NFL record 57.

[B]

When you go 47 for 57 for 452 yards and three touchdowns and you get blasted. The Cardinals were blown out. I will not be surprised if there are firings this week.

[A]

I mean, they. It was already reported that they are.

[C]

I got bad news for you.

[B]

Well, no, I don't mean like Gannon. I just mean a fall guy. I just mean a coordinator. Maybe special teams after that 98 yard kickoff return, maybe we toss a couple of assistance into the trash can. I hate this team. I hate this team. I hate them so much.

[A]

Yeah, they are the worst. Brissette now in five starts has. He's been a quarterback. One in every single one.

[B]

He's been great. He didn't have Harrison, so he turned Michael Wilson into the league leader in total receiving yards in a game. Nobody's had more than 185. Michael Wilson.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Wild.

[B]

I made a very late pivot from Luther Burden to Michael Wilson this year. Oh, very late. I don't remember who we said Wilson over on the show. I think we brought him up.

[C]

We brought him up as just. It was nasty, but holy nasty.

[A]

Beautiful.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Justin Fields with 19 fantasy points and Brock Purdy back from injury. Cardinals the perfect foil to get that team going.

[C]

Brock Purdy loves George so much. Yeah.

[B]

Mike's been waiting for this for so long.

[C]

Oh, man.

[B]

Running backs, top scores of the week. Sean Tucker, who looked amazing, dude, we brought him up as like, dude, this is going to happen at some point in time.

[C]

It was.

[B]

Rashad's been that bad. You have to give him the work. And what was more impressive to me was not just the between the tackles running. It's the fact he looked so fast in the receiving game. Up the right side of the field on that touchdown. They got him the ball in space another time.

[A]

Hard to bring down super fast. This is where the points went for the Buccaneers. Sean Tucker said, give me that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And he was great. But it's such a. It's the perfect example of like, Sean Tucker's life. It's like, ah, great. He's. He's overtaken. And then Bucky's going to come back.

[C]

Right to the bench.

[B]

Yeah, right to the bench.

[A]

Right.

[B]

CMC keeps going. I think somebody tweeted directly at Hitman. All your dudes are doing it this week.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Cmc, Trayvon, back to back.

[C]

And I mean, long ago, Sean Tucker was my dude.

[A]

Yeah. You're on fire right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

This is it, guys. I gotta leave.

[B]

You gotta, you gotta. That's it for me.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Everybody. Tucker, McCaffrey, Henderson, Bijan, back into the end zone. He heard what we said about how many more touchdowns Travion had than him on the year.

[C]

He's like, algier. Still got one.

[B]

Give me two more. We'll see what happens with Kirk Cousins. Gainwell had the big game. ETN ended up with two scores. Derek Henry looked great against Cleveland and ended up over 101. Achan unstoppable even when he's Having a bad game. He's not going to in there.

[A]

It's amazing. I don't think he can have a bad game.

[B]

Boy, he got a big old garbagey last second. One of those. You throw it to the guy when the clock's running out and he just gets to run a bunch of yards. That was nice. James Cook got into the end zone in the receiving game. Nice, nice game. They play on Thursday. And then there was a drive in this game for Seattle where it was all Charbonnet and Holani. And I sent Mike a note and I was like, what is happening with Ken Walker? This is the least reliable player ever.

[C]

And Walker was already very efficient on the day.

[B]

Now 16 for 67 and scored and they. And caught passes.

[C]

I mean he had, he had the bulk of the work there.

[B]

This is why you had a week of weeks, Mike. We bring him up as the only, the only bruise upon your current hot streak. And he comes out and puts up 20.

[C]

Yeah, you just, I mean, Sam Darnold, but yeah, four interceptions. Like, Sam Darnold was not playing well. He, he was not seeing the field. And it still took until like this, like they almost won this game. They missed a field goal as the clock expired to win this game 19 or they lost 19 to 21. Sam Darnold's playing terrible and it took until the second half for them to finally be like, well, let's try this. Okay, fine, we'll let Ken Walker go. Oh, what happened?

[B]

You know what?

[C]

Right back to the bench.

[B]

He must do something on the sideline every game.

[C]

It's so weird.

[B]

Seems like unlikable for some reason, but he had a great fantasy day. Jameer Gibbs wasn't good on the ground, was great in space again, 5 for 107 in the receiving game. Devin Singletary scored twice the even though Tracy doubled up the rushing yardage.

[C]

Yeah, Tracy looked good.

[A]

Yeah, they both looked good. I, you know, they use Devin Singletary more in the short yardage area, so he's, he's not going to be quite as efficient. But like around the goal line, you know, Tracy hasn't had a carry inside the five yard line all season. Devin Singletary has four, so it seems like that's more their plan.

[B]

Kyren back into the end zone because that's what he does. Chase Brown 18 for 99. The My Guy Redemption tour includes Chase Brown at wide receiver. The My Guy redemption tour includes Tetero and McMillan eight for 130 and two. This was the definitive kind of explosion game for Tet. McMillan on the year. And it seems that when you throw him the football, good things happen.

[A]

Yeah, he's really good.

[B]

Michael Wilson. We said it 15 for 185.

[C]

I don't think we were expecting.

[B]

Not that.

[A]

No.

[B]

18 targets.

[A]

You were. You were basically making the argument that Brissette's going to go out there and throw for whatever he throws.

[B]

250 yards, 250 minimum.

[A]

If he throws for 250, the majority of that probably goes to Michael Wilson. You didn't know he was going to throw for almost 500 yards.

[B]

No, no. And in the way the Cardinals defense is playing, he will need to do that in order to keep them within 20. Frickin stupid team. Nico Collins nine for 92 and one.

[C]

Yes. Yes he is.

[B]

His target share is up with Davis Mills 5%.

[C]

Get him going.

[B]

His yardage is up almost double his fantasy points. It's been great.

[C]

Three weeks of double did. I'm sorry his last four games. Double digit targets.

[B]

Because he's really good and bigger than everybody.

[C]

Yeah, get him going.

[B]

This was the guy we said to play if you're playing a Packers wideout. Two touchdowns for Christian Watson and they were. That second one that was.

[C]

Well, both of them.

[B]

Oh yeah they were.

[C]

There was the one in the corner and then the. Watson was the guy.

[B]

Right. That is like. It was dog mode.

[C]

Yeah, he had the one. The dog mode one in the corner and was he the guy where the ball seemed to just go through like so many hands and he. Catching that ball is almost impossible when you're trying.

[B]

It is great.

[C]

Yeah. He great games there.

[B]

JMO 4 for 88 and a touchdown again. He has been a top 10 wide receiver two straight weeks. Top 16 three straight. He has scored in three straight. He is getting targets. He is part of the offense and I with Sam Laporta out it just adds this floor. I think that exists now for Jamo. I mean he gets the ball in the rushing game a little bit. I would not dare to promise you he will be a league winner. But there's. The window is cracked open for it.

[A]

Yeah. And the schedule looks good. The Giants coming up this week and then they played Dallas in three weeks. You know he's going to score there.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. The Debo Samuel experience was good this week. Seven for 74 and a touchdown. Mariota played well again. He kind of goes out there and Jacoby besets it a little bit. JSN12 targets nine for 105. Didn't score in this one. On pace for nearly 2,000 yards. Gets Tennessee next week. You're going to keep playing him and then drake London was 7 for 119 but you're not going to have him for a bit. And I don't know who's catching the ball there. Find the Michael Wilson for Atlanta. Does it exist?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

Yeah, we know it won't be Kyle Pitts still.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Somehow, I mean Mooney and Pitts, they will get the majority of the receiving yards.

[B]

Yeah, Mooney. Mooney would be the one to. I mean because Cousins has given him some games before.

[C]

Ooh, what are we getting? Is it Caderrel Hodge time? All right.

[B]

Don't they, do they, they don't have Ray Ray anymore, do they?

[C]

No, no, no.

[B]

Okay. Hey, Trey McBride loves Jacoby Brissette.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

He does another week atop the tight.

[C]

End ranks because Jacoby realizes that the best tight end in football can also catch touchdowns. Like it doesn't just have to be yards, Kyla Murray style for him can also get touchdowns.

[A]

I think it's more that able to throw touchdowns.

[C]

Yeah, possibly.

[B]

He has scored in five consecutive games through the air and that was six touchdowns in five games. Tight end, 23611 double digit targets and four of five and the one he didn't was nine. It's really good. Really, really good. George Kittle, Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews with the 35 yard. 35 yard rushing touchdown where he looked.

[A]

So fast, like shocking. Like he gave all of his energy for that play. It was a pretty clever. He was running the tush push, but it was a fake tush push and a rollout and man 35 kind of.

[B]

Play that if it gets blown up, you're like, that's the dumbest play call I've ever seen. Yes, but when it works, you're like, that's the smartest thing I've ever seen. And do we care about AJ Barner's 11 targets? 10 for 70 for AJ Barner?

[C]

Maybe. I mean keep an eye on it, you know, I mean he was, he was the tight end 12 two weeks ago.

[B]

He's got, I mean maybe some waiver talk tomorrow about A.J. barner.

[C]

Maybe, maybe.

[A]

And the most important tight end of the week was Darnell Washington. I can't tell you how many times I've watched the play. If you haven't seen the play, go to X and just search Darnell Washington. You'll see it. It is the coolest, most dog play of all time. I mean he just, he takes the souls of three.

[C]

How are the defenders so small?

[A]

He Is. He is enormous.

[B]

He is too big.

[A]

He's, like, too big for football. He's like 300 pounds. He should be illegal.

[B]

That's as close to Shaq.

[C]

Why. Why has it taken three years for this to happen? Like, he was such a fascinating prospect, you know, back in 2023.

[B]

Friar Muse.

[A]

Well, and they. And they. They like using him as an offensive lineman, as a blocker, because he is an offensive man. You get him.

[C]

Get him on the flats, and people are just bouncing off of.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, just punish dbs. Watching there was a small cornerback. Try to have to tackle that, man. It's just fun, and it's. It's just entertainment.

[C]

I think he had, like, a third and 16 as well.

[B]

That there was.

[C]

There was a DB just holding his foot, and he leaps in through the air, like pulling that guy forward with him for the first down.

[B]

Before we move on to Does Jason, I do need to check on something because I saw it with my eyes, and I don't know if you're ready to do it, but Colson Loveland. Colson Loveland in the middle of the field. He broke through some tackles. He fell forward. What do you. Where are we with Cats and Dogland, man?

[A]

Cats and Dogland. I'll go Colston Loveland.

[C]

Okay, okay.

[B]

All right. Uh, let's talk duds.

[A]

Pooped in his big boy pants. Everyone else. All of the other players we didn't name.

[B]

Yeah, the. I think I saw more Lamar Jackson pun submissions than anything else that game.

[C]

Honestly. Both.

[A]

The.

[C]

All. Both AFC north games. I mean, Derek Henry, I guess, and Gainwell, but not many people played Gainwell both of those games.

[B]

Yeah, you didn't get what you wanted at all.

[C]

Were wild. I mean, the Cleveland Browns were. They were hanging tough with the Baltimore Ravens.

[B]

I got a message on. On X, and I guess I'll just apologize for the answer.

[C]

Oh, no, I guess. I mean, did you say play Lamar?

[B]

It was Lamar or Jacoby.

[C]

And it was like, come on.

[B]

Of course. Someone said. Someone said Lamar Jacoby. I think Jacoby might have a better floor, is what they said. And I go, I always, always play Lamar. Yes, you always play Lamar. But this week, it didn't work out at all.

[A]

Idiot. I know.

[B]

I'm dumb. Lamar. Yeah. Just 193 passing yards. Barely ran the ball. You see, Miles Garrett has more sacks than, like, five different teams. More than the Ravens. He's got more sacks. He's got the same amount of sacks as the Ravens team.

[A]

Yeah, 15.

[B]

He's only brown 25 and a half.

[A]

Their defense is. It's really. I think it's the best defense I've ever seen on a bad team. Because if you're that good, if you're that good of a defense, your team is good. But that's how bad they're off.

[C]

Right.

[B]

I almost pivoted off of them five times this week to other defenses. And I just, you know, whatever the matchup situation. Yeah, I have the Browns and they're playing Baltimore and I'm like, well, you know, maybe I should play Dallas against Vegas. Like I even got there. Or Chicago against Minnesota or Minnesota against Chicago. I had probably five claims and I just kept canceling them going like, I don't want to lose the Cleveland defense. And like, I, yeah, I just showed that it can still work against a good.

[C]

I did the same thing with Cleveland is like, I don't want to drop them, but there's no way I can't play these guys against the Baltimore Ravens. I know. I'll play the Chargers against Jacksonville.

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

That's about a 20 point swing.

[A]

Oh, no, that's what happened.

[C]

They were. The Chargers were negative. In the format that I played, there.

[B]

Is matchups and there's talent and sometimes it just works out. They scored, obviously Cleveland did. Lamar Jackson didn't do much. Jalen Hurts didn't do much. Had a rushing touchdown, no passing touchdowns that game.

[A]

So I want this to be the example for people because, you know, we're fantasy. We want offense. We, you know, we joke about not wanting defense and low scoring games. Sometimes there are low scoring games where the offenses suck, but every now and then you have an NFL game where two defenses look so incredible that they are shutting down the offenses. And that's the classic example given of like a defensive battle. That is awesome to watch. And I present this as Exhibit A in. No, it's not. No, it's not. Because those two defenses, they were awesome. They were incredible. I mean, the Eagles defense, the Lions defense, they showed up, they showed heart, they showed talent and skill. And that game stunk, man. No one enjoyed that.

[B]

Can I submit a proposal to you?

[A]

I'll allow you to.

[B]

Official dome related proposal.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

If you're going to get that game, can we have it snowing?

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. Yes.

[B]

Can it be if howling winds and snow and like mud everywhere.

[A]

Well, see, that's. That is part of the problem. Part of the problem for the week, it was howling winds in a lot of games this week. We've talked about it before. Rain doesn't really affect the passing in that much.

[C]

Unless it's wind.

[A]

Yeah. Unless it's pouring wind is really the thing that affects wind.

[B]

Earthquakes.

[A]

Right, right, right.

[B]

I think hurricanes.

[A]

A tornado.

[B]

Tornadoes are bad.

[A]

Terrible.

[C]

What is Jared Goff's where just like the cold. I mean he seems like he plays well indoors, but you put him in any sort of.

[B]

I mean he's a California boy.

[C]

I know what. That's what I'm. But he just. He was so bad. He's surfing in the sun so bad.

[A]

Last night he was under pressure. I mean that's, that's always.

[C]

Even when.

[B]

Even when he wasn't go look at Green Bay tape a week ago. There's just no way to do anything. There's nothing. Philadelphia's defense, they're going to win another super bowl with the worst offense and A.J. brown will be like, I want out after two rings. That's what's going to happen.

[A]

That defense is.

[B]

They're that good. And if their offense see Hertz can do enough in the playoffs to make a player to down the field the Devontae Smith or Brown and then you're happy.

[C]

So friend of the show Rich Rebar tweeted this out. So the Eagles are now averaging 6.4 passing plays per game of 10 or more yards. That is ahead of only the jets at 6.3.

[B]

I think I read something and I'll butcher the exact quote if you want to find it, Kyle. It was basically last night's game was the worst EPA per play for a Philadelphia Eagles game in like three years on offense. And it was the best defensive EPA per play in three years for the Eagles. So literally, again, masking all the problems.

[C]

We do have a little bit of breaking news.

[A]

Bad news.

[B]

Yeah, that is. That actually is big news.

[C]

Eagles 5.

[B]

Sorry about this if I mentioned the Super Bowl.

[C]

Lane Johnson suffered a Liz Frank injury. It is not expected to be season ending but he might go to the IR.

[B]

Well, yeah, I mean that's the injury that J.K. dobbins has which he just had to have surgery for. Maybe this one's not going to be surgery, but that's bad.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Lane is kind of important.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Jared Goff was 14 for 37 by the way.

[A]

Oh, that was good.

[C]

He was so bad.

[A]

That was so bad. I mean he couldn't connect with Almond Ross St. Brown to save his life.

[B]

No, he couldn't. No, he couldn't. And that killed people.

[A]

And they are always in sync. I mean they're like mind melded and every pass was uncatchable.

[B]

Speaking of uncatchable nine was not very good.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

McCarthy.

[C]

J.J. mcCarthy was.

[B]

He had nine turnovers in his last four starts. Does that count for anything?

[C]

J.J. mcCarthy was not good. And on top of that, the Minnesota Vikings receivers were not good either.

[B]

There were a couple big drops.

[A]

There were.

[C]

There were multiple huge drops where I. Maybe they have gotten to the point where they're just so shocked that the ball is actually anywhere near their hands. They're like, whoa, whoa.

[B]

No, I think. I think It's. I think McCarthy's been a. Hits, been bottom, third quarterback at best.

[A]

Yeah, he has been very, very disappointing. You look 52% completion percentage, 56% completion percentage. 48. And this week, 50. I mean, that's.

[B]

That's unacceptable.

[A]

Yeah. You can't win games when you can't complete 60 plus percent of your pass.

[B]

And then. And then Mahomes, not good this week. Caleb Williams, I mean, Jason said it. It's Matthew Stafford. You know, he threw for two, but it wasn't a big fantasy week again. And right now, the regular season mvp. Is this the most recent odds, Kyle?

[C]

Correct.

[B]

Matthew Stafford plus 135. Drake May plus 220. Josh Allen plus 500. Patrick Mahomes plus 550.

[A]

Stafford in the lead.

[B]

Yeah. And May by quite a bit.

[C]

Let's get Drake May up there.

[B]

He's. He's right there. They've. He's getting the easy schedule criticism right now.

[C]

Drake May.

[B]

Yeah. Because the Patriots have the easiest schedule in the league. Like, if you look at all their matchups, so they're. The reason they're 9 and 2 is they don't play nobody. I mean, what else are you supposed to do?

[A]

Yeah, it's fair. But he has looked incredible. He's looked like perfection.

[B]

Yeah, I. We'll see what happens with some bigger matchups, but we'll take a break. We'll come back with some running back duds.

[C]

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But it was, it doesn't make sense.

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I mean he was 17 for 59 like and their offense was their offense. And this shows the limitations of Judkins in the, in the running back starter category. When you play for Cleveland and now you might have Shador. I know the recipe. I'm not a defensive coordinator and I know what to do and it's to stop this guy and let everybody else be themselves.

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I'm saying what what is wild about it is like in the second half the Cleveland Browns, I'm trying to remember, I think it was 16 to 10. That's like the Browns were winning and my fear for Judkins was game script. Like if the Ravens get out to a two score lead we're going to see someone else at the running back position catching passes and Judkins won't be on the field. He was on the field, they were winning and he got a lot of work.

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17 carries and he wasn't bad with it. It's just one of those things where because they weren't down and they weren't passing, he didn't have a reception. He didn't get a touchdown. So it's like it's a normal game. Yeah.

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Yep.

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Breeze hall was okay. 14 for 58. Didn't score, did everything he could. The passes. I want to talk about RJ Harvey. Yeah, he was. He's in the duds. Right. And I saw a million Puns submitted about RJ Harvey. First game without Dobbins. JJ Zachary tweeted this. 65% of the running back rushes, 9% target share. He played 38 snaps. Jaluma, Gloughlin and Bidet tied for second with 8. He was 11 for 30. He didn't do much with him. 3 for 20 in the receiving game. No touchdowns. It was a. Yeah, I guess if that. Because, Mike, you made the point, like, if those numbers continue. Right. If you get all those snaps and those rushes, it's going to be.

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It'll work out 65% of the attempts in a 10% target share.

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Like, that's delicious.

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Good things will happen.

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That's very good. I guess I do always worry about the impatience of the grumpiest man alive. And he is weird and uses other backs. So it's like if somebody gets going in a game, does he stay with them? I don't know.

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The utilization was fantastic. They beat the Chiefs in a, you know, in a divisional matchup. And I. They're going to buy. Coming out of the buy, I think you're going to see even more RJ Harvey and I will. I will love to have him down the stretch. I will point out that championship week is against the Chiefs again because it's, you know, the Chiefs have shut down pretty much everybody. It's very difficult to.

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I mean, did you guys see Sean Payton get truck sticked by the ref?

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Yeah, I did not.

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Oh, yeah.

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Sounds great.

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And then got a flag called on him. Yeah.

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Because I can. I respect the coach and hate the guy. Sure.

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Absolutely.

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Sure. Because I do.

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I mean, I. You know, championship week, that's. Could be tough here. But after.

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Well, you guys were done.

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I like it. I think RJ Harvey is going to be very solid for the next month.

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After the bye week, you guys were dead on about the workload. Woody Marks, 18 for 44. Nick Chubb, just three.

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It didn't work out, but the work was there.

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Yeah, it didn't work out on the care. Yeah. 18 for 44. Wow.

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Yeah.

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David Montgomery, 6 for 27. You're always playing a little roulette with Monty, especially against Philly. My goodness, David, I wouldn't have started him like our. Kidding. You had a bye week.

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I'm going to guess 9.6 last week, 10 two weeks ago. It just Montgomery feels like not a very good play.

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No, he doesn't. No, he doesn't. And again, the play calling, we need to be paying attention to recent trends with Dan Campbell too and like it seemed like Monty's Dan Campbell's guy. Right. So we need to watch the utilization right now with the play calling change. Obviously it was Philly, but we all know that Jameer Gibbs.

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Dude, Gibbs.

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You need to have that acceleration and that big playability in a game. That's a dog fight.

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Yeah.

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I think the fact that it was Philly and it was a very, very tough defense, they just focused on, hey, we've got to have Gibbs out there more and more and more. I think in different types of matchups like we saw the week prior where I believe both Gibbs and Monty got 15 carries apiece. This was just one of those, like nothing is working. The pass game doesn't work. We have to get Gibbs out there.

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Mike. The Ken Walker game was good. The Charbonnet game was bad and so were Tony Pollard and Tajie Spears who seemed supes are relevant on that roster right now.

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Where just like a heat check on Walker. Where are you guys? I know it was a huge game, but you know, since the bi week he's getting more snaps and more opportunities. The last month, 17 opportunities. 13, 15, 19.

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I think my position on Walker is.

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That Tennessee next week.

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There's a law of averages with the touchdowns that were. It was working against him. Right. Like Jason said, he's got to do it from 15 to 20 yards out. He can do that, but he didn't.

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Have to this week. He got out his was inside the five.

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Yeah. So I think I'm more optimistic about him ending up with a touchdown here or there. I'm still not optimistic that the utilization will satisfy anyone.

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It was funny that his carry inside the five if you weren't watching the game.

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He also had one called back.

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They were, they were in like a super hurry up mode. They had to rush, like keep him on the field. Yeah, I mean it was funny. When I'm watching that live, I was like, I was like, they're going to be so pissed because they can't.

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What's he doing out there?

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They can't put Charbonne in the way they want to. They had to keep him out there. And oh my gosh, someone take a knee.

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Act like you're hurt.

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Ken Walker, I mean Incredible. He could score touchdowns.

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So, I mean, still like, terrified. RB23 category.

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Okay.

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Yeah. I think you can start him, though, if you're getting around 15 opportunities a week.

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Say that out loud.

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Yeah.

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Say that you heard about a friend of yours that might start him.

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Yeah, no, I have someone that I know who might be forced into it. And you definitely shouldn't play him, but you can start him. Okay.

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All right. We'll throw the panic meter out here in the wide receiver room, see if you're worried about anybody, because there's some names. Jamar chase was bad. 3 for 30. Got shut down by Ramsey and now Mike gets suspended for the New England game. Would have to go to Baltimore in the next one and then in Buffalo for the next one. I'm not saying trade him. I'm just saying could be a rough stretch. It'll be fine, but it probably won't be lad. McConkey. Huge and Keenan, they were like.

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And Gadget Gadsden. We were like, Herbert.

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It was the Chargers.

[A]

They spread their legs and the Jacks just punted. I mean, right in the groin. Right in the. They got straight, full booted. Booted both of them.

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I mean, you must have a wide foot.

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Exactly.

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This is where you went, huh?

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I mean, that's what happened. They.

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It's not real.

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I mean, I'm just saying. I get what you're saying, Andy.

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We knew when he was discussing media and that we were going to have.

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We were on a ride today.

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Yes.

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I had a bad weekend.

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Yeah, you did. He's like, I'm going to get in there on the Monday show and we're going to go full spread. Boot analogy. I'm on raw. 2 for 42 on 12 targets. Insane. Insane. 12 targets for Almond Ross is normally 11 catches. Yeah, that's the. They were just off. And this was the fewest catches on 12 targets since Josh Dotson in 2017. And if I had the old clip, I. I'd play it while we could, but name I haven't heard in a while.

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No.

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Ameca abuka. Nine targets, five catches, 40 yards. Oh, my gosh.

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Wow.

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Impressive.

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Yeah. Yeah, whatever. He's going to get nine plus targets the rest of the year. I'm okay with that, but it was a down week. A dunes a 2 for 41.

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Let the team in. Targets. I try to find some silver lining with six.

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Yeah. Rashi Rice, six for 38. We talked about my home struggles. Xavier Unworthy, five targets, three for 25. Devonte Smith, just one catch for eight yards. That cooked One of my teams, I moved him in there and whoops. Devonte Adams. Eight targets. Perfect stat line for one.

[C]

The goal line.

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Wide receiver for one. For one.

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Yeah, that's.

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And that was his thousandth career reception.

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It was funny because in the locker room, you watch the post game speech.

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When he can't be happy.

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McVeigh comes in and McVeigh's. I mean, the team is thrilled. They got that walk off, missed field goal win.

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I did my part.

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Tough divisional thing, but it was funny. You got. You caught one catch on eight targets. And he comes in and he's just like. He's screaming. McVeigh's just screaming. Your thousandth catch. Like, you know, it's like, yay. It's like you.

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Yeah, but you had a bad game. Yeah, yeah.

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Down game for Jalen Waddle. 3 for 52. Whatever. Going into the buy, he's fine. DK Metcalf.

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DK Metcalf doesn't have big boy pants anymore. No, he don't even allow him in this section.

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No, he is. Switch. His pants have changed.

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I don't know, man. I feel like.

[C]

No, he's got wee baby toddler pants.

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Toddler pants.

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I would. There's no way DK's fitting in a toddler pants.

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Exactly. Constricting.

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I make the argument that he had a very good game for him.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Five for 49. Not bad.

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You know what happens every game with Metcalf? The first drive. The first drive, he makes some catch and then he makes a big old first down symbol and you're like, let's go, Metcalf. And then poof.

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He had two catches right away. And then it. I think it took until the. The master of disguise, Mason Rudolph showed up. And then we finally got more targets for DK Metcalf.

[B]

The stash.

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So are you hoping that it's Jason? I don't know.

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I don't know.

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Listen, I mean, no, because then he.

[C]

Used to start a quarterback for Pittsburgh.

[B]

How concerned are you? Long term? Big conversation with Justin Jefferson. Five for 61. We know JJ's great, but. But JJ's great because he's got the biggest pants.

[C]

Yeah.

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And fight.

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He mean, he's. He's currently the wide receiver 24. He will be removed after tonight's game. The concern is very real. Like when you look through the game log, he's got two incredible games, and those were Carson Wentz games.

[A]

And the deep shots to Justin Jefferson are terrible. They're interceptions. They're not to him. And that's Kind of what you need. And he's always.

[C]

Jefferson also had. He was one of the guys. He had a huge, huge drop. Yeah.

[B]

Addison had one. A big one down the field. But look, it's.

[C]

It's concerning.

[B]

It just worried. It makes you worried about the real ceiling. I mean, if you told me Jacoby Rosette was starting for that team, you told me Carson Wentz is starting. If you told me Jameis was starting, like right now, McCarthy is in the category of the worst possible situations, which is a rookie quarterback, essentially, that probably isn't going to go over 200 yards in any game.

[C]

Very often, 60% of his passes. It's bad.

[B]

It needs a new nickname. This was the dud of the week, in my opinion.

[A]

It was. But I am way less concerned here.

[B]

Saw three targets.

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Yeah, it was. He was the one who was out there the most. But it was a big time dud.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, obviously just a terrible performance. You know, basically a goose. No yards. And then the issue is the Niners, they were up by a kajillion right off the bat to the Cardinals because that's what happens to the Cardinals. And, you know, two touchdowns went to Kittle McCaffrey.

[B]

You know the rest.

[A]

Eat the Cardinals lunch that the Cardinals had to pay for out of their own pocket.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You know that the team's not paying for their.

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Yes.

[A]

And then after they. After they pay for their lunch.

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Hate this team.

[A]

McCaffrey is like, give me that. So, yeah, it's. I'm happy to play Ricky Pierce, all going forward. And that's. That's my opinion. After a. Obviously a tremendously bad fantasy, you don't.

[B]

Want to make him prove it?

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I don't know. He already proved it to me.

[B]

He proved it to me in the two games.

[C]

In the.

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In the games where he was leading the league in two games. Also three, the way that.

[C]

Two and a half, 108 yards, 56, 117.

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Oh, wait. Which game did you get her? Game? Four.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Thank you.

[B]

I'm wrong.

[A]

Yeah. And the way off. Shanahan was talking about him getting him back in the breakout and that he is there. He is going to be their wide receiver. 1. I'm confident in that. Okay.

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All right. I'm not as confident. Just like I wasn't as confident to start him this week. I want to see more Dallas, Goddard, Gadsden, Najoku, Fannin, Otten, Pitts, those guys all had like two catches or one catch. And it was not a good week for those tight ends. But we'll talk waiver tight ends tomorrow and maybe Pitts a little resurgence with no Drake London playing New Orleans.

[C]

What's going on?

[B]

Chuckles?

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I just was thinking he pitts in.

[B]

His pants so Jason's not doing great. Guys. Another tenderloin. Jay, another tenderloin.

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That was a good one.

[C]

Swish.

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Yeah. Okay, that was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's Nose Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sundays with Lowe's official partner of the NFL Waiver wire tomorrow. I'm hitting this button now. Yeah, we got to get it before anything else happens. Jason will be explaining league media and on his Twitter account later today. It'll be a 10 part thread. It will involve big words. You guys can learn a lot. We'll catch you tomorrow.

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