Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Peanut Butter Dwelley Time

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast: Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Peanut Butter Dwelley Time

Release Date: November 18, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
Episode Title: Week 11 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Peanut Butter Dwelley Time

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Introduction and Monday Pundits

The episode kicks off with host Jason Moore welcoming listeners and introducing Jay Grizz as Mike Wright is absent due to illness. The trio exchanges light-hearted banter, setting an engaging and friendly tone for the show.

Notable Quote:

Jason Moore [00:32]: "Mike is finally... he's slowly melting into the couch with the sickness."

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Weekly Rewind: Game Analysis and Injury Updates

The hosts delve into the Weekly Rewind, offering detailed analyses of recent NFL games and their implications for fantasy football players.

Sunday Night Football Insights: Andy Holloway expresses disappointment with the Rams' performance, citing ineffective gameplay despite a better offensive line and protection for Todd Gurley.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [03:01]: "I was bleeding from my eyes."

Trubisky’s Hip Issue: Discussion centers around Mitchell Trubisky being benched due to a hip injury, with Andy questioning the timing and explanation provided by the team.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [05:29]: "How did that happen?"

Robert Woods' Sudden Inactivity: Jason Moore highlights the unexpected absence of Robert Woods, pondering its impact on fantasy lineups.

Notable Quote:

Jason Moore [07:16]: "Robert Woods, inactive last night for a personal issue..."

Marlon Mack’s Injury: Andy Holloway laments the injury to Marlon Mack, emphasizing its potential long-term effects on fantasy relevance, especially with a short week ahead.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [08:13]: "He is a major handcuff."

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Studs of the Week: Top Performers

The focus shifts to identifying standout players ("Studs") who delivered exceptional performances during Week 11.

Josh Allen’s Breakout Game: Jason Moore praises Josh Allen as the top quarterback of the week, noting his impressive stats both in passing and rushing.

Notable Quote:

Jason Moore [10:01]: "Josh Allen, the number one quarterback on the week."

Lamar Jackson's MVP-Caliber Play: Andy draws comparisons between Lamar Jackson and the previous season's Pat Mahomes, highlighting Jackson's consistency and high ceiling.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [11:22]: "He is last year's Pat Mahomes."

Dak Prescott’s Stellar Performance: Jason Moore commends Dak Prescott for his outstanding game, despite upcoming challenging matchups.

Notable Quote:

Jason Moore [12:36]: "Dak Prescott, big game 444 and 3."

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Stinkers of the Week: Underperforming Players

The hosts candidly discuss players who failed to meet expectations, categorizing them as "Stinkers."

Deshaun Watson’s Struggles: Despite being a top-tier quarterback, Deshaun Watson had an off week, leading to concerns about his consistency.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [35:04]: "This is by far his worst performance of the year."

Kyle Allen’s Offensive Woes: Kyle Allen is criticized for his poor performance, throwing four interceptions and struggling against a solid Atlanta defense.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [37:06]: "50 pass attempts is something that you should never put in the hands of a quarterback like Kyle Allen."

Amari Cooper’s Inconsistent Output: Despite his talent, Amari Cooper failed to deliver adequately, leading hosts to question his reliability in upcoming matchups.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [52:35]: "He's too talented to easily put him on your bench."

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Peanut Butter Dwelley Time: Highlighting Unique Plays

A unique segment titled "Peanut Butter Dwelley Time" spotlights unconventional and memorable plays from Week 11.

Cameron Brate’s Record Targets: The hosts celebrate Cameron Brate achieving a record number of targets for a tight end, emphasizing his growing importance in his team's offense.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [31:02]: "14 targets for Cameron Brate is not something that he can or should handle."

Quirky Play Calls: Jason Moore humorously references the segment’s name by discussing Dwelly’s consistent touchdown receptions, dubbing it "peanut butter dwelling time."

Notable Quote:

Jason Moore [46:33]: "The dwelly is always a touchdown."

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Fantasy Football Strategy and Advice

The hosts offer strategic advice for fantasy managers, discussing player valuations, waiver wire pickups, and lineup decisions based on recent performances and upcoming fixtures.

Calvin Ridley as a Reliable WR1: Andy Holloway champions Calvin Ridley as a dependable wide receiver with high upside, especially given his favorable matchups in the coming weeks.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [24:55]: "Calvin Ridley has shown... it's his for the taking."

Running Back Redundancies: The conversation touches on the complexities of managing running backs like David Johnson and Ronald Jones, debating whether to hold onto injured players or seek alternatives on the waiver wire.

Notable Quote:

Jason Moore [50:52]: "Do you drop him for a handcuff? You're the Dalvin Cook owner. Do you drop David Johnson...?"

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Sponsorship Mentions:

While the hosts briefly mention sponsors like Lightstream and Myomigo, these sections are kept concise to maintain focus on the main content.

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Closing Remarks and Anticipation for Upcoming Games

Wrapping up, the hosts express hope for their absent member's recovery and look forward to discussing upcoming Monday Night Football games. They encourage listeners to stay engaged with the Fantasy Footballers community through their website and social media channels.

Notable Quote:

Andy Holloway [59:00]: "Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast."

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Key Takeaways:

• Top Performers: Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, and John Brown stood out as Week 11 studs.
• Underperformers: Deshaun Watson, Kyle Allen, and Amari Cooper were identified as key stinkers.
• Injury Impacts: Significant injuries to players like Robert Woods and Marlon Mack could influence fantasy outcomes in the coming weeks.
• Strategic Moves: Emphasis on picking reliable players with favorable matchups and reconsidering holdings on injured or inconsistent players.

This episode provides comprehensive insights into Week 11's fantasy football landscape, equipping listeners with valuable information to navigate their lineups confidently.

Transcript

[Jason Moore]

This is hall of Fame and Marshall Falk, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, welcome in.

[Andy Holloway]

Happy to be here.

[Jason Moore]

As is Jay Grizz. Welcome into the show. Jason Moore is present and accounted for. My best friend. My best best friend.

[Andy Holloway]

Your best fantasy friend.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, buddy. Mike is finally. He's finally gone down. Jay Grizz is here in his stead. I was with Mike yesterday. We were watching all of these fine and not so fine games and he was slowly melting into the couch with the. With the sickness, just with some sort of illness. He's not. He's a man of very few words when it comes to, like, the Sunday event. Like, you're. You're normally tilting. You talk a lot like, I'm on a. Lose. I'm going to lose.

[Andy Holloway]

That's pretty much it. Doesn't matter what's happening. I'm tilting at all times. Watching football.

[Jason Moore]

Up 30, down 30. Up 50. Down 50. You're going to lose.

[Andy Holloway]

No, the truth that I'm going to lose.

[Jason Moore]

And I'm normally talking a lot. Oh, look at this, look at that. And Mike just kind of sits, but eventually I look over and he had expired and we got him out of there and sweet.

[Andy Holloway]

So now we got Jay Grizz. Follow him on Twitter at J. Grizz. FFL with one Z.

[Jason Moore]

We have the weekly rewind today, some injury news. We've got the Studs, the Stinkers on the show today. You can follow us on twitter@the ffballers instagram.com fantasy footballers and the websites. The fantasy footballers.com. it's Monday. We put the call out to the Foot Clan. We've got some very sophisticated Monday pundaes. Jason, would you like to share these with me?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I would. How about Muhammad Snooze? That's pretty good.

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty good couple for dj. Here we got dj Exclamation Shark.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

That's innovative. Or Tis the season. Oh, Chark. The Herald Angels sing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. And of course, that is DJ Chark. We don't talk about the other dj. Yup, yup. Spectacular. Break me off a piece of that Big Dak bar.

[Jason Moore]

That's ridiculous. Gerald. Never it dud.

[Andy Holloway]

Sean Watson.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Robert wouldn't play.

[Andy Holloway]

That's pretty good. That sucked. Peanut Butter Dwelly Time. That's my favorite.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, that one's great.

[Andy Holloway]

Peanut Butter Dwelly Time.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Oh, be a thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Do they get to play the Cardinals every week.

[Jason Moore]

He wishes. Poop in my big Boyd pants. To end it on a very sophisticated note. I think we've unfortunately had to say that one before.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, look, if there is a Monday punday that can incorporate kaka, then we will get the job done. Here at the Fantasy Footballers, we are.

[Jason Moore]

Willing to sift through 600 to 800 puns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Just to find the poopy ones.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's get into the rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

Weekly rewind.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe this weekly rewind can begin with your take of the Sunday Night Football experience.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay. All right. My take was. I wasted a night. It was terrible. Yeah. No, I feel for you, Jay. The Rams couldn't do anything and they dominated the game. So I mean that. I mean, that's what it came down to. You. They were able to fix. They being the Rams, able to fix some of the run, you know, running capabilities, their offensive line. Actually, I think they might have addition by subtraction here. You know, we were worried they lost two starters, but their line was already trash. Well, it looks like the rookies that came in in replacement, they might be more capable than the starters. There was better protection for golf, better running lanes for Gurley, but overall, it was just. It was just incredibly boring. I mean, I was bo. I was bleeding from my eyes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then what about that hip? Maybe that hip's been holding Trubisky back.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I. You know, I've been saying it for a long time. His hip is an issue. And so he's going to need to take the end of the game on the sideline. Yeah. I mean, so Mitchell Trubisky got benched, as he should have. But they're saying it was a hip issue. And I went back and I watched a couple plays where he could have. He could have hurt his hip. And there were some kind of different stories of it happened in the second half. And yet he got it checked out in the locker room at halftime. So it's like, how did that happen?

[Jason Moore]

Is the hip located close to the ego?

[Andy Holloway]

The hip is about 3ft below. I almost went 3 yards.

[Jason Moore]

3 yards below. Got it. Part of the running game situation in Los Angeles simply has to do with committing to it. You know, it's a law of averages to a degree. When you commit to the run with Todd Gurley, he's going to break off a few plays. You give him 10 chances a game, you got lower odds. They obviously the Robert woods news was shocking to everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was mind blowing. Obviously, you still have Replacements, A lot of people threw in Josh Reynolds. Josh Reynolds, who looked like he was going to have a great game when he broke a long touchdown play. But then that got called back and then you. Thankfully, this is a good Monday Night Football game. Obviously, having having woods not play this late into the week on Sunday Night Football stinks. But at least the Monday Night Football game has options. You've got can. I mean, you could pick up Nicole Hardman. We talk about it all the time. And he. Maybe he gets one snap and maybe you're fine with that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, that's true. And then some pivots were last night, either to Josh Reynolds or to Anthony.

[Andy Holloway]

Miller or some people pivoted to Everett, who in his own right was very disappointing. You could tell this was not the expectation. He played, I believe, only 14 snaps, so there was something going on health wise. Just one catch at the end of the game when they needed big play, they did bring him in. He got a very nice catch. But this was not a he stunk situation. This was a he was clearly injured and barely used situation. So going forward, monitor the practice reports. If he's healthy, I still think he's a good play.

[Jason Moore]

Robert woods, inactive last night for a personal issue, came out of nowhere. Practiced in full all week. Nobody saw it coming. And we'll have updates when we find out whether this will affect more than his activity in last night's game. Marlon Mack is the big injury news. He fractured his hand in Sunday's win. He was playing extremely well. He did put up a nice fantasy day before departing. Unlikely to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they've got the short week they're playing on Thursday, so he's no chance at that. I mean, he could miss a significant chunk of games to the tune of, you know, into the fantasy playoffs and become irrelevant. But hopefully we get good news early on and they say he can miss a week and come back. It is.

[Jason Moore]

What if he gets a club hand?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's hard to hold a football with a club hand. And it is his right hand, which is his dominant carry hand. So it really, really stinks. Mostly for me, because in league of record, I have Marlon Mack. I traded for him.

[Jason Moore]

And now you're not comforted by Royce Freeman finding his way into your starting lineup?

[Andy Holloway]

No. And then I get to play the guy this coming week who I traded Mono Mack from.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He would have been his problem against me. Now he's my problem against him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that'll affect some fantasy teams for sure. It was interesting. Naim Heinz, Jonathan Williams kind Of took up the reins. Jonathan Williams was running very hard in this game. Hines got into the end zone. We'll see what happens.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean those guys went over 100 rushing yards.

[Jason Moore]

They can rush the ball there. I mean they're, they're a running team. So the Thursday matchup they're going to. These are going to be waiver wire guys tomorrow.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean their offensive line is so good that their offensive linemen are scoring touchdowns now.

[Jason Moore]

We also found out Matthew Stafford's back injury could end up sidelining him for up to six weeks. That's not great for that team. You did see Jeff Driscoll put up a Brooks. You played Jeff Driscoll in a league?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah. It's an oh yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yes. Oh yeah.

[Jason Moore]

He was pretty good last week. It was like you're playing Jeff Driscoll and he goes oh yeah, yeah. Then started crying is a dynasty league.

[Andy Holloway]

And Russell Wilson on by Stafford hurt.

[Jason Moore]

And went to Driscoll. Well, you one big score Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

All he said is he goes I've got a plan.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. It didn't involve Kenny Golladay though. A little prequel to the Stinkers. Part of the show weekly rewind and news brought to you by the sleeper app. Let's go ahead and get right into the studs.

[Andy Holloway]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, we said it was coming.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, we knew it was coming. Oh, excellent.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Allen, the number one quarterback on the week. Mike. Start of the week, 21 for 33, 256 and three.

[Andy Holloway]

Finally the big game.

[Jason Moore]

The big play to John Brown too. You know, the. You hadn't had that deep touchdown yet. Seven for 56 and one on the ground.

[Andy Holloway]

It was just, it was just a dominant performance. Buffalo, you know, a lot of the writers there are talking about how they've been winning games, but they haven't had any statement games. And yeah, it's the Dolphins, but the Dolphins had been winning a few games, had looked better and they absolutely smashed them.

[Jason Moore]

They got a little close at the end, got a little bit closer. Yeah, it did. That's why part of that is why Josh Allen could have the day he had first quarterback to throw for 253 and rush for 51 since 2015.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a very specific stat.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it is. Lamar Jackson, speaking of crushed them.

[Andy Holloway]

He's incredible right now. He is last year's Pat Mahomes. He's the cheat code where and again, Lamar Jackson was not an early round Quarterback, Right. You think, oh, if you want this year's Pat Mahomes, you're going to have to pay up in that first, second, third round, depending on your league type. And get Pat Mahomes. No, another late round quarterback who is the runaway fantasy MVP so far this year.

[Jason Moore]

Just unbelievable to compare him to Mahomes last year. Mahomes had five finishes inside the top three last year. Lamar Jackson already has seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. I mean, he.

[Jason Moore]

He's also just broke the record formerly held by Michael Vick of consecutive games with 60 rushing yards at the quarterback position.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just unbelievable. His baseline is so extremely high and his ceiling is.

[Jason Moore]

We might not know it yet. We might not know it yet. Lamar. Jack. They are. They are turning themselves with the way the defense is playing, which, by the way, if you played Baltimore, you had the guts to do it against Deshaun Watson, and it would have paid off in spades.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, this will be an interesting stretch for him going forward. He's got three tough matchups. The Los Angeles Rams with Jalen Ramsey, who have looked great since that trade. The San Francisco 49ers, who've been great against quarterbacks, against wide receivers, and then Buffalo. So those three games are really going to be the test here for Lamar Jackson. And I'm going to go ahead and say he studied and he's going to pass the test.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Jimmy Garoppolo got to play the Cardinals again, which means, of course, he got to play the Cardinals again.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's. It's one of those things you want to look for on your schedule and highlight and circle whenever your players get to play against the Cardinals. I believe eight of his 18 touchdowns on the season are against the Cardinals.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he had four more in this one. They don't get to play the Cardinals anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry. Twice a year.

[Jason Moore]

Dak Prescott, big game 444 and 3.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been absolutely awesome. Again, you've got another one where you go. Okay, now, the schedule coming up. You've got New England, Buffalo and Chicago.

[Jason Moore]

That is two thirds on the road.

[Andy Holloway]

That is if it's possible to be worse than Lamar Jackson's schedule. Dak has found a way to do it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. That makes him a very questionable start. I mean, in New England and in Chicago. I'm not going to start Buffalo at home, maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not. I'm probably not going to start. I mean, he'll be on that cusp where he might have to. But if I can bench Dak, even Though he's been on fire against New England. In New England. I will.

[Jason Moore]

That doesn't feel like a very nice reward for this game.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not. It's. It's not a reward, but I would reward. If Lamar Jackson was playing in New England next week, I would play him because the rushing capability changes the equation. Dak is a good mobile quarterback, but.

[Jason Moore]

He'S not a. Yeah, he's not a.

[Andy Holloway]

The NFL rushing record type of weapon.

[Jason Moore]

Pivoting off of Kyler Murray would have been a mistake. If you did it. I did it in the Listener League for.

[Andy Holloway]

How'd that work out?

[Jason Moore]

Poorly. Poorly.

[Andy Holloway]

Who'd you play against?

[Jason Moore]

You. Yeah, yeah, I forgot I played Kyle Allen. Jason, thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I almost played Kyle Allen against you in our league of record. We're going head to head in two different leagues and I chose to not do that because he is Kyle Allen.

[Jason Moore]

Don't hold your. Philip Rivers hasn't played yet.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I've made the right move. I think my odds are heavily in that favor. But Philip Rivers could easily say, hold my beer.

[Jason Moore]

I guess since it's just us here today in the Listener League, we're tied.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And you have Austin Eckler, I have Keenan Allen. So whoever wins that head to head is going to win the match. The match.

[Andy Holloway]

And then in the league of record, we are just about tied. I'm up a few points. And you have Pat Mahomes. Ever heard of him? I have Philip Rivers and Tyree Kill. Now you were supposed to have Pat Mahomes and Robert Woods.

[Jason Moore]

That's true, Jason, that's true.

[Andy Holloway]

And you, being a wise fantasy analyst, saw Robert woods and thought, I need to put him in my flex. He's a late Sunday night game so that you could pivot, right?

[Jason Moore]

No, Jason, no, no, no, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

I drink your tears.

[Jason Moore]

You do. We'll see if you can find some yourself tonight. Patrick Mahomes can avoid tyreek, but score 40 and then I've got a shot. All right. Driscoll had a big game. Kirk Cousins, what a comeback performance. Some big time throws. Really impressive.

[Andy Holloway]

This week was bizarre. Every game that was like supposed to be a clear blowout started with the team being dead. Like the Lions were way big up on the Cowboys right off the bat in that game without Matthew Stafford, the Cardinals were up 16 to nothing on the 49ers. The Vikings were getting smashed, smashed at home. And all three of these teams came back and won. And Kirk Cousins complete second half story, 29 for 35. He was great.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he did basically everything he could do to get them back into it, and it was just enough. I mean, listen to this. Over the last five years, when you're trailing by 20 points by the half, you're owing 99.

[Andy Holloway]

Not anymore.

[Jason Moore]

So now they're 1 in 99.

[Andy Holloway]

1% easy. Math. Thank you, math.

[Jason Moore]

You did it. You did it. All right, we'll give. We'll move on to the running backs. It was a weird week. If you want to know how good Christian McCaffrey is, they got their keysters handed to them in this game.

[Andy Holloway]

They scored three points.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. And he was the number one fantasy running back on the weekend.

[Andy Holloway]

That's impossible.

[Jason Moore]

Not for Christian.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, he is. Brooks, you remember that time we traded for Christian McCaffrey in the league of record?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I do.

[Andy Holloway]

It was great.

[Jason Moore]

Mark Ingram was number two on the week. He had a couple of touchdowns in the passing game. Gus Edwards even broke a long run in that one. Eight for 112 and one. He's just in the handcuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he is.

[Jason Moore]

Ingram went down. Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

He is a major handcuff. I. You know, we don't bring him, his name up as often as Alexander Madison, but he is every bit in that same conversation.

[Jason Moore]

Gurley, 25 carries, 97 yards, one touchdown. Will it continue against Baltimore, Arizona, Seattle? Will you see this kind of volume from Todd Gurley?

[Andy Holloway]

I think you are going to see a heavy workload from him. And about this, I mean, this isn't a game where you were getting old. Todd Gurley, 30 points. I mean, Malcolm Brown got one of the touchdowns and they really were able to bottle. In fact, the first quarter for Todd Gurley, he. He had his most rushing yards in the first quarter of his career, and he's had monster games. So they got off to a strong start, but then they were pretty much able to bottle him up and didn't do much as the game went forward.

[Jason Moore]

Zeke had a nice game. Joe Mixon, your start of the week ended up with another good performance. This is. He's running them together. Joe Mixon's looking. Looking great.

[Andy Holloway]

Joe Mixon's a guy you could play. Obviously, bad matchup coming up against Pittsburgh, but I think when you've got a guy who's just going to get the ball ad nauseam, you stay. You stay in the flames and just change your expectations for what you're going to get.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

I don't know if you could. There could be a bigger fan on this earth.

[Andy Holloway]

I love it so much that when I had it at home and I forced us to get one at the office because, look, sometimes I gotta do it here too.

[Jason Moore]

You basically made me pay to wash your butt.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Think about what you're doing when you're taking. If I took some Hershey's syrup and I poured it on this table here, would you want me to just get a dry paper towel and give it a wipe? No, that'd be ridiculous. That would be absolutely ridiculous. But that's what we're doing with higher stakes than Hershey syrup. Think about it. Look, the Omegle has everything. It washes you perfect every time. A warm seat, warm water, better hygiene. Save money on all the toilet paper. There's no plumber needed when you're flushing wet wipes with chemicals. Look for better health, better hygiene. Stop wiping, start washing right now. Get 10% off your order. Go to myomigo.com footballers that's myomigo.com footballers get 10% off your toilet seat bidet.

[Jason Moore]

Impressive.

[Andy Holloway]

And I was able to install it.

[Jason Moore]

Which is again, very, very impressive.

[Andy Holloway]

It just means it's easy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It does. It does mean that. And we'll be talking about flushing away some performances here soon. But let's go to the good. John Brown had a monster game. 9 for 137 and 214 targets. Huge game.

[Andy Holloway]

Do I get credit as my pivot start of the week? Even though my start of the week. Yeah, because I had two starts. It was Brown and Brown.

[Jason Moore]

Well, this is Marquis.

[Andy Holloway]

Hollywood Brown was my actual start of the week. And then he stunk.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but John Brown was like, you're if you're not sure Marquis is healthy start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. So I'm just going to say I won.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the listeners may not say that if they've started Hollywood. 50 plus receiving yards in every single game. That's John Brown. He is their number one receiver. When they throw the ball, that's where they go. Only Michael Thomas can match that number this year. Denver, Dallas on the schedule. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New England.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, he's the wide receiver. 14 on the season. Been unbelievably consistent. And now you get to see the talent, the big blow up potential which he clearly has with his lightning speed.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's talk about Sharknado. DJ Chark, 8 for 104 and 2. Here's the more impressive number. 15 targets. I know you asked me last week, am I worried about DJ Chark? With Nick Foles, the answer was no because of the talent. And that talent demanded 15 targets in this game. He's the wide receiver, five on the year. And he's got much better matchups than some of these other top end wideouts that finished the season.

[Andy Holloway]

I went back and forth on my rankings, kept thinking, okay, we haven't seen him with Foals. They don't have the rapport. I've got to move him down. And then I went, well, no, he's too talented. I'm going to move him up. I went back and forth all the way up until Sunday game time. And it's so nice to have a definitive answer. He is the number one for that team. It is not Mike's sweetie, Dede. And because of his talent, I mean, one of those catches for a touchdown, it wasn't some great incredible pass that, you know, it was just he caught the ball in the middle of the field. Then he turned on the jets and said, I'm faster than you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, second catch was incredible too.

[Andy Holloway]

So, I mean, DJ Chark, he's a league winner this year. He's one of the few guys I think that should be in the conversation along with Lamar Jackson's. You got him so late in best ball leagues where you're going 18 rounds. He was more often than not, not drafted.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say he was, he was a free agent pickup.

[Andy Holloway]

So I mean he's, he's been. And now you've got a wide receiver, one locked in rest of the year.

[Jason Moore]

He gets to play Tampa at home, he gets to play Oakland, he gets to play Atlanta, although Atlanta may be the best defense in football now.

[Andy Holloway]

Last two.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I'm going to name some guys that had big weeks but aren't in the, you know, haven't been in the upper echelon category. You tell me who you have the most confidence in moving forward. Okay. Calvin Ridley finally did it. He had a big game, 8 for 143 and 1. Randall Cobb had another big game, 4 for 115 and 1. Michael Gallup, 9 for 148. Debo Samuel, a reprise, 8 for 134 on 10 targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there's a lot of great options here. If I have to say who I've got the most confidence in. I don't know if it'll surprise you or not. I mean, I've spoke confidently of this player coming up rest of season and it's started to come to fruition, but it's Calvin Ridley. Even though Michael Gallup just looked amazing when it comes to Gallup and Cobb. We just spoke about Dax schedule and I checked and it's the same schedule that his wide receivers have. So they're going to be on the same team for the next few weeks. And that, that's just a schedule. Where are you really going to start? Michael Gallup in New England, Randall Cobb in New England. But give me Calvin Ridley against Tampa Bay all day, the Saints, the Panthers. You know, I, I think Calvin Ridley has shown, look, he's a first round NFL player. He was drafted to be a star wide receiver. He's shown plenty of flashes. And now the opportunity with no Muhammad Sanu, no Austin Hooper, it's his for the taking.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree with that. It's kind of incredible. Amari Cooper, all of his monster performances are at home this year. I don't know if you know that.

[Andy Holloway]

I did not know that.

[Jason Moore]

At Washington he was a 30th. At New Orleans, 37th. At New York Jets, 94th. And then this game was in Detroit when he stunk it up and you know, Randall Cobb and Gallup took advantage of very little production from Amari Cooper.

[Andy Holloway]

Or Amari Cooper had very little production because Michael Gallup and Randall just went to work and were open ad nauseam.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. So you like Ridley the most of that group? I get it. The upside, potential. Debo is interesting as well. He's demanding targets and there aren't a lot of options there. That'll depend a little bit on Kittle's health though. So Ridley has the clearest path to production season long. I agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like Samuel as well. I think that even when the health comes around for the for Kittle and for Emmanuel Sanders, I don't think Debo Samuel is just going to be relegated to irrelevance.

[Jason Moore]

What I like about Debo is games with, you know, you say, okay, he's in Baltimore. Maybe that's not a great matchup. That's true. But they play New Orleans, they play the Rams, they play the Packers. These are games that Jimmy Garoppolo is going to have to do some work in the passing game. They can't just go defense, running game. So hopefully Debo stays involved. It was a nice performance. Marvin Jones scored a couple times.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, people are upset because. No, you didn't play Marvin Jones. Right. The process with Jeff Driscoll against the good Dallas Cowboys defense. I would say majority of leagues out there where you have Marvin Jones who's on your bench and you feel stupid and you feel dumb. He only had five targets, only four receptions, just two of them were touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

He's leading the league in touchdowns now.

[Andy Holloway]

He's tied with eight.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. DJ Chart, Kenny Golladay. We'll talk about him later. Also, we had the apology show last week. Remember we said. Remember we said we were sorry. I think you think I'm heading somewhere else. I was just going to say I feel like Michael Thomas deserves an actual apology from the fantasy community because no one was willing to put him in the very upper echelon. And here he's faced multiple quarterbacks and he's by far the best wide receiver in fantasy. He's never finished outside the top 22. So he's given you all the consistency you could ever want. Like Devonte Adams did last year. He's got the most. I think he's like the first player to get 90 receptions this many, you know, at this point in the season, like ever for the Saints, he has.

[Andy Holloway]

Been so incredibly consistent. And you're right. While he was still an upper echelon wide receiver in the draft season, he wasn't in the same conversation with Hopkins and Julio. For most people he was. He was a tier below those guys. A Tier below Devonte Adams, and he has clearly been the best wide receiver for fantasy this year. He's given you monster upside games, and he's never disappointed you. So he's. He's been great. I thought.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You were going to mention the fact that these players don't know how to handle an apology.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

You apologize to James Conner, who's like.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't deserve that.

[Jason Moore]

And then Mike apologized to Amari Cooper.

[Andy Holloway]

Sometimes people don't know how to take a compliment.

[Jason Moore]

What does that mean? What can DK Metcalf take one?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, thankfully, he was on by, so he's got time to work. Work through it. You know who, you also. You owe an apology. And I think you did apologize to this player early on, I'm afraid. But Cortland Sutton, I mean, he is just great. He is a great wide receiver. You watch some of these catches going over the middle, bad throws. He grabs everything.

[Jason Moore]

He's a great wide receiver. And if his quarterback had.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a great.

[Jason Moore]

Thrown him a better. Yeah, he threw one, too. If he had a better ball over the middle of that game, he put a double move on that secondary and was wide open, would have gone in for a touchdown with a better pass.

[Andy Holloway]

But just really is one of those things. Where do you trust that he'll ever have a good quarterback? Because unless you think Drew Locke is that guy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no, I don't. I don't. He's just the one. Sutton's the one. When Sanders left, his volume got locked in stone, basically.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's just a shame because it's like you're going to end up in purgatory for a while because Flaco's not the answer, Lock's not the answer. You're not going to have a top pick.

[Jason Moore]

So I just like how people out there are saying, like, okay, we've got our guy. There are contingents of Brandon Allen truthers now because he's moving around and had some good games. Trevor Simeon had good games for this team. Do you remember the Trevor Simeon hype?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Brock Osweiler had some good games.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, and you look around the.

[Jason Moore]

League and that's no disrespect to Brandon Allen, but you got to do it for more than, like, two games.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Ask Kyle Allen.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He had a monster game against Arizona to start his career. A couple of really good ones. How. Remind me how he did this week.

[Jason Moore]

Poorly.

[Andy Holloway]

Poorly.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. My listener league team agrees with me. All right, Ryan Griffin at the tight end position. Do we need to start playing Him.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, now that Herndon is out, I think he can be in the mix of guys that you take the shot on.

[Jason Moore]

But more often than not, great matchups. Oakland, Cincinnati, Miami. The next three weeks, five for 109 and one on five targets. He's the tight end 14 on the year.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a great stupid stat. He has more finishes as the tight end one on the week than Kelsey Kittle and Ertz combined.

[Jason Moore]

That's a terrible stat.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. It's awful, but impressive. Finished twice as the tight end one on the week.

[Jason Moore]

It seems like Sam Darnold trusts him. The schedule for the jets is great. Robbie Anderson gets one catch a week and Griffin's scoring. I think he's a pickup. I really do. I think he's a player you can pivot to at the tight end position and always have a shot at. He's probably going to catch four balls a week and no Herndon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, you got to do what you got to do if you don't have a regular weekly tight end start.

[Jason Moore]

Kyle Rudolph.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, nice start of the week there.

[Jason Moore]

Five for 67 and a touchdown on five targets. He has five touchdowns on the year, all in the last five weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

That's pretty impressive. And this one was very nice. A longer, pretty wide open design touchdown play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he had to run and everything. He couldn't just put one hand up and catch it. Ross Dwelly.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Two touchdowns. He only had 14 yards, but he scored twice against an Arizona defense that gets. I think they get paid.

[Andy Holloway]

They do.

[Jason Moore]

By giving up touchdowns to the tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

For a tight end, they get a bonus. Each player gets a $100,000 bonus for a tight end touchdown against them. That's right. I verified that with spot track.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's so painful to be a Cardinal fan right now because they're always like two or three plays away from winning these games. Cardinals Mike Clayton Moral victories Andy. Mike Clayton tweeted this and this is worth noting for the offensive options. Like the first handful of games, they're averaging like 1.2 touchdowns a game. They're up at like 2.7 touchdowns a game over the last handful. Their offense is playing much better.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

For their defense is playing much same.

[Andy Holloway]

Much same, much same for fantasy. The Arizona Cardinals offense is fantastic. They have had a very tough stretch of games. Now they go on bye week, which is a very tough stretch for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

Unlikely to put up big points.

[Andy Holloway]

But I mean, you're talking about two of the last three weeks they've been against the 49ers throwing touchdowns and they've got their answer.

[Jason Moore]

Isabella's on the field. He's a big play guy. Christian Kirk's playing well.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. He's being targeted. And they've finally got a running back that can produce.

[Jason Moore]

And Kyler ran in touchdown yesterday from 20 plus yards. So Jared Cook scored really nice touchdown catch. If your league gives bonuses for, like, flamboyant, cool touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was my start of the week. I'm happy worked out.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy Holloway]

Cameron braid. Hey. So my start of the week last week, O.J. howard. Oh, we came in.

[Jason Moore]

How do you feel about this?

[Andy Holloway]

I feel so great.

[Jason Moore]

So lucky, right?

[Andy Holloway]

No, not lucky.

[Jason Moore]

So skilly.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Because it was great to call that. And then when we came back the next week and say, okay, is this O.J. howard? Is he back? Can you. Can you? And we said, absolutely not. Like, no, you do not want to keep.

[Jason Moore]

Run for the hills.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. And then he had a drop, he being OJ Howard early in the game, and then was benched and then was like, okay, you're done. You. You're. You're dead to me. Hey, Cameron break such a gross drop.

[Jason Moore]

Because he kind of like juggled it and then rotated around like he looked like he was going behind the back. And then he threw it to the other team. And then Cameron Brake caught 10 passes, which was a record for the tight end position. It was almost like it's. It was punitive.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Look what I can do.

[Andy Holloway]

I think. I think Bruce Arians talked to Jamison was like, you throw it to Cameron Bray every time. And after every throw, you stare at O.J. howard. I mean, his kiss could have been you.

[Jason Moore]

Howard is clearly in the. In the doghouse there. And whether he returns to this team next year is a question in my mind, because it's not. They've extended Brait. They don't use the tight end position a lot. Howard trade rumors that were already abounding. If he doesn't factor into the Arians offense and Arians is frustrated with him, I just wouldn't be surprised. It hurts his dynasty outlook not knowing what the future holds for OJ I.

[Andy Holloway]

Just want to read some numbers here, and I apologize for the length of these numbers. 2044-142333-44423-342-2334. 14 targets. That was Cameron Brait's game log of his target count.

[Jason Moore]

How far back were you going?

[Andy Holloway]

I went back to last year. I could go further.

[Jason Moore]

That's the code to get into our Studio as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, that's right. I mean that's 14 targets for Cameron Bray is not something that he can or should handle.

[Jason Moore]

It's not allowed.

[Andy Holloway]

Stinkers of the Week presented by Odor.

[Jason Moore]

Eaters well, we had some stinkers this week. Some, some big boy pants got filled.

[Andy Holloway]

Up, Jay, and some of them were mondo sized pants like Deshaun Watson. Superstar, you wanted Watson and Lamar Jackson Watson going head to head. You wanted pieces in this matchup. This is what we were talking about. We wanted all the pieces we could handle in this game because so many points were going to be scored and we were half right because the Ravens scored a lot of points, but Texans.

[Jason Moore]

Did not generally win. Like Watson's had some inconsistency during the course of a game and he normally is able to salvage that over the back half. But as this game progressed well, it's really funny. I mean this is by far his worst performance of the year. He's had so many good ones.

[Andy Holloway]

So it's by far his worst performance of the year. But he is actually, this is now his fourth. And keep in mind, you know, this is, this is 10, 11 weeks in, this is his fourth game where at the quarterback position, he's a bust. Because if you're not in the top 15 in a 12 team league, that's, that's a bust week. He's been the quarterback 22, twice, 16 and now we don't know where he'll finish on this week. But it's not good. And so it's very interesting for a guy who every other week has been a top 12 option or a top five option all but one of those.

[Jason Moore]

Weeks and I would kind of, if I'm the desean Watson owner, I just throw this game away. You throw it out of your mind. If there's one thing we know about Watson is he bounces back. He's a disciplined player. Those games you talked about when he finished 22nd at Jacksonville, followed it up with the number five overall performance, 22 at Carolina, followed it up by the number one overall performance, 16th at Indy. Number two the next week, next three games at home against Indianapolis, New England and Denver. But you played to Sean Watson. He's your quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean he's, he's too good. But he definitely let everyone down and stunk this week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Wolf, Kyle Allen, Wolf. 50 pass attempts, that should be good enough for four interceptions.

[Andy Holloway]

50 pass attempts is something that you should never put in the hands of a quarterback like Kyle Allen. He likes to put the ball in the Hands of the other team. And none of these were tipped passes that were like, oh, no, that was, you know, bad route. These were just. He's. He played horrific football.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. They got destroyed by Atlanta.

[Andy Holloway]

That's Atlanta beating two good teams.

[Jason Moore]

It's Atlanta beating two good teams with defense.

[Andy Holloway]

And was there a change from Dan Quinn calling the defensive plays? I think there might be.

[Jason Moore]

Did they change all their players?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, something changed out of the buy.

[Jason Moore]

They came out two great performances. Now Kyle Allen has to go to New Orleans. No. Thank you, Brady.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

26 for 47 for 216. No touchdowns. My eight year old was playing in a. In our family league and his opponent, bench Lamar Jackson to play Tom Brady this week. And he was quite tickled by that fact.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Worked out well in his favor. But this was a. What do you make of it? I mean, they won the game, but this was one of the worst performances Brady's had in a little while.

[Andy Holloway]

I would. This is not a good offensive team. The New England Patriots are great defensively, but if you look at a lot of the metrics on how the Patriots are scoring, how they're moving the ball, the yards per drive, things like that, this is pretty much the worst Patriots team that we've seen. Now it's all masked in the NFL by their defense. That's great. But I mean, you look at the last five games and you have four passing touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Brady has. Brady hasn't been a top 12 quarterback over the last four games now and he's only done it four times out of now, 10 games. So not trustworthy at the position. He's on the fringe in terms of just how the season's gone. They don't seem to have a flow in the running game at all. Whether they hand it to Burkhead, White or Michelle.

[Andy Holloway]

And they're passing a lot. I mean, 47 attempts for Brady.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Still only 26 and this was against the Eagles. It's a very beatable secondary, so. Yeah, extremely disappointing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And we'll see what happens with the wide receiver position too. I mean, Nikhil Harry got in towards the end of that game. Three catches. They're trying to find something. Muhammad's the news, not bringing it home. Jared Goff, or as I call him, Mitch trubisky with makeup. 11 for 18.

[Andy Holloway]

Starting to see it. I mean, he's. He is fine at a very specific thing and if, if that thing gets moved to the left or to the right, he's not good. If you can give him some good play. Action passes with protection. He will sling it downfield and he'll put it where it needs to be. I think he's got great deep ball accuracy when he's protected better than a lot of other good quarterbacks. So he's, you know, maybe he's a one trick pony, but it's a great trick. Hopefully this new offensive line can protect him. He only threw the ball 18 times. This, this game was sorry to everybody who had to watch it.

[Jason Moore]

And you, what was funny is you said why didn't they flick some flex something out earlier? And they're flexing next week's game. Yeah, but you knew right away what you were getting into. You want golf against Baltimore next week?

[Andy Holloway]

Jason at home against Baltimore. I think it is. He can be a play. Yes. Your eyebrows go up like that's an.

[Jason Moore]

I thought I was putting the ball on the tee for you to just.

[Andy Holloway]

Wind blew it over, buddy. That's very windy.

[Jason Moore]

That's asinine. Asinine.

[Andy Holloway]

That's asinine to play him. So you asinine means you don't think he's going to be a top 15 quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

I know where you're headed and I'm heading there with you.

[Andy Holloway]

Water bet our first week. 12 water bet already?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Listen, 25 carries for Todd Gurley, the recipe for this team. It's going to revolve a lot more around Todd Gurley and Jayden Ramsey and managing Goff's, you know, Woods. Hopefully he's back. Probably not going to have cooks. I don't know. It's been a little bit scary.

[Andy Holloway]

I totally get it. I totally get it.

[Jason Moore]

Eleven completions.

[Andy Holloway]

But Chicago's offense, Baltimore's defense is what.

[Jason Moore]

Defense is playing better right now in the league. Baltimore.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. No, Baltimore is not at the top. There's several teams playing near the top of. There are several teams playing much better. The Chicago Bears are a pretty darn good defense. The reason that Goff only threw the ball 18 times is because Mitchell Trubisky, I mean, they didn't. The Bears didn't score when you were down by three points. It's like, well, the game's over because the Bears can't move the ball. Lamar Jackson's going to score. Jared Goff's going to have to throw the ball. And what I saw in this game that made me think, look, the future might be a little bit brighter was that the offensive line that we expected to be even worse than the trash that he had was significantly better than the trash that they had. And this was Against a really good Bears. So if they could protect golf and Lamar Jackson could score, I think.

[Jason Moore]

I think that's for what it's worth. And it's fantasy consistency, Baltimore's defense. Fourth, fourth, second. And then the game against Houston where they. I believe they were.

[Andy Holloway]

They have to be top five. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

So they. They're on a roll right now. We'll see what happens. It's nice to get an early bet.

[Andy Holloway]

In and hopefully you have Robert woods back. We don't know what the reason was, but, you know, last second, missing a player who you practiced with was part of the game plan all week. Certainly didn't help golf this week.

[Jason Moore]

No question. Running back stank. Oh, Brian Hill. You burned.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my.

[Jason Moore]

You burned a lot of people. You tell me that Brian Hill is going to get 15 attempts, I'm like.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we're all right against Carolina.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Carolina's been giving up top five performances.

[Andy Holloway]

Then you're going to have a good game.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, 60% of snaps, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Everything that you wanted to happen, game script wise, I mean. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Were they winning?

[Andy Holloway]

Falcons were up. The opportunity was there. The snap counts were there. You know, you talk about process versus results. The process was true here.

[Jason Moore]

The results were 15 for 30. He scored a touchdown, got a called back. You talk about the listener league matchup. We're tied in. Brian Hill and Kyle Allen have a lot to do with that and I appreciate you. So can you start Brian Hill against Tampa? Tampa's got a great running defense.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean Tampa. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. And then the week after is the New Orleans Saints. I feel like this is Ty Johnson V2.

[Jason Moore]

It could be you might be able to flex Brian Hill if you know he's going to get 60% of snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

And what sucked is Quadri Olufsen was in on the play. So he scored a touchdown. Quadri Olison didn't. Didn't do much, but he had a touchdown where the offensive line opened a hole so big that I could have. I could have hit that hole. And I'm not fast, but Brian Hill just didn't have that single opportunity.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Sonny Michelle. Oh, man. Ugly James White. Bad game. Fournette. This is Fournette's first stinker. Are you worried about it because it's his. You know, Nick Foles comes in, they get beat up. Now, the game script didn't really not conducive for Fournette.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's. But that's part of what it is. I mean, Leonard Fournette's a guy that is usually getting 20, 25 carries. He had eight. Eight carries. But that was because they were down the whole game. He did. He still was involved in the passing game. Seven targets. They just weren't able to run the ball. So I'm not too worried about Leonard Fournette going forward.

[Jason Moore]

Quite a few running backs struggled that we thought might have better weeks. Ronald Jones, Miles Sanders, Tevin Coleman, Raheem Mostert.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would say that the 49er combo is the one that surprised me. I didn't think Ronald Jones or Miles Sanders were going to have a great game against New Orleans and New England. But the 49ers rushing game has been awesome. Has been awesome. That was me needing to cough and pushing the cough button. Sorry, Jay. You scared Jay Grizz before I finished.

[Jason Moore]

I've never heard a mid sentence like a mid word cough.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, it's the newest thing. It's the newest thing.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, now you push the button again.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I did.

[Jason Moore]

You keep it down.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, I'll just keep it down. You and Jake and do the rest. But Kyle Shanahan even came out and said it's the first time to his knowledge that he consciously abandoned the run. Said it just wasn't working.

[Jason Moore]

12 for 14 was Tevin Coleman.

[Andy Holloway]

They couldn't.

[Jason Moore]

6 for 13 was Raheem Mostert.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, a combined. What is that? Combined 27.

[Jason Moore]

You did it.

[Andy Holloway]

I did it. Combined 27 yards against the Arizona Cardinals.

[Jason Moore]

18 carries.

[Andy Holloway]

Defense. So, you know. And again, Shanahan willingly said after the half, they just stopped. I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo was like, oh, this is really easy to throw on them. I was going to say, just do that.

[Jason Moore]

There's something to be said. You know, you can look at Arizona and say, okay, they're not a great running D, but you don't need to run against them. All you do is throw and it all works out, especially to the tight end position or with any form of misdirection. They're an undisciplined defense. They fall for. I tweeted yesterday, Here is the offensive game plan that I saw. Screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, screen, Dwelly. Screen, screen, screen.

[Andy Holloway]

The dwelly was a touchdown. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The dwelly is always a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

The dwelly is a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

It's peanut butter dwelly time.

[Andy Holloway]

Peanut butter dwelling time.

[Jason Moore]

I knew you'd be like that. 1ap9 for 25.

[Andy Holloway]

So that.

[Jason Moore]

To be honest, Geist didn't have a good game on the ground either, but he had a 45 yard reception at the end of that game for a touchdown going forward, it'll be difficult to know how it breaks down.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, here's the thing. You don't want either. I mean, it sucks.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe that's.

[Andy Holloway]

You had nine carries for Adrian Peterson. Adrian Peterson is not the type of running back that's ever going to do anything with nine carries.

[Jason Moore]

That's true.

[Andy Holloway]

You had seven carries for Darius guy. I don't know. The Darius guys is going to be the. I mean, is there a back where seven carries is enough if they're splitting these backs and they're not the pass catching guy? I mean, I know Geist did have the long reception, but that, that's not his specialty, then I don't think you want either of these on a. On a bad team.

[Jason Moore]

All right. I mean, for this show, it feels like David Johnson was active. Zero touches. Did you see his tweet?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I posted his tweet this morning.

[Jason Moore]

Welp, that's his tweet. Whelp.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that could mean a couple different things. It could mean whoops. It could mean, sorry.

[Jason Moore]

It could mean, no, keep going, keep going.

[Andy Holloway]

It could mean pissed off.

[Jason Moore]

There you go.

[Andy Holloway]

I would imagine that he did not know that the game plan was, D.J. you are the backup and we don't want you to touch the ball.

[Jason Moore]

He. I saw him run out on the field one time.

[Andy Holloway]

He was out there a few seconds.

[Jason Moore]

But Kenyon Drake is the guy right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Kenyon Drake is the Arizona Cardinals starting running back.

[Jason Moore]

What do you do with someone if they think they're healthy and you think they're not asking for David Johnson and Mitchell Trubisky?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, if I'm the head coach, I play whoever is the better player. And there is no doubt right now that Kenyon Drake is the better player. We as Arizona Cardinals fans on the season have been lamenting from Week one. Even when he was having good fantasy games in the passing game, he has not. We said Chase Edmonds early on was the better runner. If you're talking between the tackles, trying to get to the edge, much better than David Johnson. And Kenyon Drake is better than Chase Edmonds.

[Jason Moore]

It was so hard because David Johnson in the first six weeks of the season had five top 12 performances at the position, masking the inefficiency on the ground. But even last year, he couldn't. You know, this offensive line in Arizona, it was a 3.2 carry. You kind of just said, hey, he'll be involved in the passing game. Now he's involved in nothing so it's just disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

I know he's got five good performances, but think about this weeks five, six and seven. Chase Edmond was. Was the running back 13, 15 and the running back one. Then you have Drake, who's come on board and you know, was the running back two against San Francisco two weeks ago, was in the 20s last week, had a pretty solid week this week. I think this system is in a redraft league.

[Jason Moore]

Do you drop David Johnson because he's got a bye week and then Rams, Pittsburgh.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You know, do you drop him because you have to. Would you go drop him for a handcuff? You're the Dalvin Cook owner. Do you drop David Johnson from Madison for the stretch run with the bye week next week, Drake Edmonds will be back. I mean, this is a big time question. You're in a keeper league. You're not doing something like that.

[Andy Holloway]

But there was a roster I was helping.

[Jason Moore]

What do you do, Brooks? Yeah, I think you do it. You drop him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's tough because of the bye week. You wonder, okay, the bye week, the extra rest, does that get him healthy and he's in front. But the reality is he's not going to go to the front. He's going. If he comes back to playing relevance, not fantasy relevance, then he's in a timeshare. So as insane as it sounds, I think you can drop David Johnson. You don't have to. If David Johnson was out on waivers, I could promise you my league of record team I'd pick him up for the shot. I picked up LaShawn McCoy last week for the shot that maybe, you know, it was a planned veteran rest.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah. Damian Williams with some rumored issues right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So, you know, starting running backs aren't. Well, who knows if he's starting running back. Running backs aren't. Must drop assets. But you can if you have to.

[Jason Moore]

Move on your team. Would you rather have David Johnson or Ronald Jones?

[Andy Holloway]

Ronald Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, me too. That he's got to get healthy and then we'll see what happens next year.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't usually cry on our episodes, but that one hurts. Yeah, that one hurts because Ronald Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Not, not, not your.

[Andy Holloway]

Is not my favorite.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He's not been your fan.

[Andy Holloway]

And David Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man, Ronald Jones, he had 4 for 13, so yeah, it wasn't infinitely more than David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Wasn't great.

[Jason Moore]

All right, wide receivers, whether you were named Mari Cooper or Cooper cup, the coops didn't do much. Mari Cooper 3 for 38 on 8 targets.

[Andy Holloway]

What kind of snap count?

[Jason Moore]

That's got to be concerning.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, look, he's. He's been dealing for the last, I don't know, month, if not the whole season. With nagging injuries, playing 55% of snaps is a little bit concerning. Now, if you tell me he gets eight targets, I go, oh, I wish it was 10 or 12, but that should be enough for Amari Cooper to get the job done. He didn't. Now you've got New England, Buffalo, Chicago, the Rams. The next four weeks are. That's a tough stretch run for Cooper, but you have to still start him, right? He's been too good to not start him. I don't know about this. Coming week on the road against New England, I think you can look to pivot, but he's just a hard guy. He's too involved and too talented to easily put him on your bench.

[Jason Moore]

You remember when you coughed middle mid word? You remember your mid word cough. Our producer Al Borland said he thought we actually lost power. That's what he thought, we lost power. He was worried over there.

[Andy Holloway]

So got power. Just lost my mind.

[Jason Moore]

You downgrade Cooper cup against Baltimore? Probably not. You're playing him?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Based on my Jared Goff comments, I am playing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Even. Even if I'm pessimistic on golf, you don't. Bench is number one.

[Andy Holloway]

And Cooper cup was 1cm from a 50 plus yard touchdown. It was ruled a touchdown on the field and then got called back to where it was just placed on the inch line.

[Jason Moore]

All right, not so smooth right here. Kenny Galladay went on a holiday against Dallas. One for 34, five targets. But you don't do anything about it. You have a risk with Driscoll. You just have a risk.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's not something you want. I think Kenny Golladay and Marvin Jones. The way that I look at it with Driscoll is that they're streaming options. I lowered Kenny Golladay significantly. My rankings this week, to be fair, I did the same with Marvin Jones, who ended up with two touchdowns on four receptions this coming week against Washington. I'm all about that life.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Give me that Kenny Golladay life.

[Jason Moore]

I think you just have to move forward with him because you probably don't have a pivot option. That gives you more upside than Galladay.

[Andy Holloway]

That's very similar to Mari Cooper.

[Jason Moore]

Do we have to bury Alan Robinson? Four for 15, six targets. Quarterback problems?

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe. Tell me who their quarterback is.

[Jason Moore]

If Chase Daniels out there, you're back on Robinson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I think he is. Better for Alan Robinson than Mitchell Trubisky.

[Jason Moore]

Emmanuel Sanders was just 3 for 33. If you tried to get him into your lineup, he only played on 46% of snaps every time he was tackled. If you watch this game, he got up pretty slowly. I would have been designing plays where he runs out of bounds at the end of.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they. Look, they benched him for. I mean, he just got. He got hurt. Benching him is the wrong terminology there. But he was on the sidelines with his helmet off for most of the end of that game when they needed him. So this was the issue of saying, maybe don't start a guy coming back off of injury week one.

[Jason Moore]

Yep, yep, yep. And then Mohammed Sanui, we talked about his snooze performance. Two for four on four targets. That sucks. Tyler Boyd, I thought he was going to be very safe this week against Philadelphia.

[Andy Holloway]

Really did everything said. The matchup, the. What we've seen from New England and Sanu, he was a smash play and was terrible. So he's a major bust. Tyler Boyd played 96.8% of snaps and got three targets against.

[Jason Moore]

How'd that work out for him?

[Andy Holloway]

I. It's weird, man.

[Jason Moore]

Finley is.

[Andy Holloway]

Finley is really bad. Who would you rather have, Kyle Allen or Finley? It's definitely Kyle Allen.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not even close. Do you mean who threw four times? Like, if for my franchise, I had to.

[Jason Moore]

Kyle Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Kyle Allen might be the future of that franchise.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I'm just saying he threw four interceptions and looked terrible.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And Finley.

[Jason Moore]

Kyle Allen's infinitely better than.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the point I'm making.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, Ryan Finley is. He's called. Placeholder for first round pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

That's on his football card.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. He hands out a business card, like, and it just says, I can get you the number one pick overall.

[Jason Moore]

That's true, though. All right. Some tight ends will let you down. You got nothing out of these Colts tight ends. Ebron, 4 for 27. Jack Doyle was not targeted.

[Andy Holloway]

That. That's insane.

[Jason Moore]

Not targeted.

[Andy Holloway]

Jack Doyle had been on a run of having a couple good fantasy games, and now you get your quarterback back and you're like, oh, you had a touchdown to, you know, each of the last two weeks. And then he was not bad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Stinkers of the week, presented by Odor Eaters. Odor Eaters, the best in foot odor defense. Why don't you thank our studio sponsor, Jason, what do we find? What did we find on there yesterday?

[Andy Holloway]

Pristine auction Yesterday. Mark Ingram signed Baltimore Ravens logo football 44 bucks.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a real steal.

[Andy Holloway]

That sounds like something I want to get and give as an incredible gift.

[Jason Moore]

For your friends, family, myself. No, but that'll work, too.

[Andy Holloway]

They're like, I love me today.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Pristine auction after you've cleaned your butt.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I haven't. Breaking news, my omegon.

[Jason Moore]

All right, this is real speculative news had come out that basically Rob Gronkowski needs to let the Patriots know by Saturday, November 30th, if he's going to return to the team, which could kind of use him based on they're not running the ball the way he did when he was blocking, and they're not passing the ball. They. The way they did when he was available to Tom Brady. He did tweet out something about, you know, a big announcement, but we think it's probably CBD related. Yeah, because he keeps doing that. He's really playing up this. Like, I might have something to say. For his own financial game.

[Andy Holloway]

I was going to say that's what he should be doing as he's doing all these business, cbd, directional stuff. He needs to stay in the limelight.

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty smart.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yeah, but I mean, but for fantasy. Do you pick him up on a flyer? Do you?

[Jason Moore]

I never dropped him on. I never dropped him on my dynasty team. I just left them on that bench.

[Andy Holloway]

When you've got a 30 player roster, you can afford to have Gronk on there. But I'm saying in a redraft league where you are living the tight end hell, and you're like, okay, I just had O.J. howard goose me. Do you.

[Jason Moore]

He goosed you, did he?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I wouldn't. I wouldn't if it were me. I don't. I don't think.

[Andy Holloway]

I wouldn't either.

[Jason Moore]

Think about what has to happen. I mean, he's got to get back in December.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got to gain about 65 pounds of muscle.

[Jason Moore]

It seems that way. And then he's got to be involved to the degree of, like, you know, having success for your team. It's probably not worth the roster spot right now. When you're fighting over handcuffs and you're fighting over flex plays by weeks. Still to come next year, you'd rather have Abercrombie. You talking about Hollister?

[Andy Holloway]

Hollister coming back?

[Jason Moore]

I don't. I don't know. He. You. You can have him. You can have.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take Abercrombie.

[Jason Moore]

I know you will. All right, Jay Grizz says it's time to go. Again, we thank pristine auction tomorrow. We'll have a waiver show. We'll see if we get. See if we'll get Mike back. Yeah, hopefully. Hopefully he's feeling better today. Otherwise, enjoy the Monday Night Football game. Foot Clan, we will be back with you soon.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's go, Philip Rivers. Do something. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the Ffballers.