Fantasy Footballers Podcast – Week 12 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, Ultimate Backfire

Date: November 21, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore (with Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright absent, but contributing remotely)

Episode Overview

This episode previews all the critical Week 12 fantasy football matchups, dives into lineup choices, injury news, and the ever-entertaining “Wheel of Shame.” The hosts provide analysis rooted in recent NFL action, noted player trends, and plenty of their signature banter, with notable digressions into real-life league shenanigans and an extended, impassioned Arizona Cardinals QB discussion. The episode also features the “Fantasy Face Off” segment, where hosts and producers battle in Prize Picks prop challenges (with a hilarious, costume-based loser punishment).

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thursday Night Football Recap

• Last night’s game (Bills vs. Texans) dissected:
  • Buffalo's late-game drama after converting a 4th & 27, but ultimately falling short due to relentless defensive pressure (“When you can rush four and sack the quarterback every other play... it's a cheat code.” — Andy, 02:21).
  • Khalil Shakir’s breakout (8/110) outscoring Josh Allen in fantasy formats.
  • Concerns about Buffalo’s depth after Shakir, with Ty Johnson (!) as the #2 pass-catcher.
  • Texans’ defense shines; Woody Marks solid for Houston.
  • Fantasy impact: Owners of Josh Allen, James Cook (big day, 17/116/1), and the Houston D/ST were heavily impacted.

2. Fantasy League Trades & Joe Burrow’s Return

• Joe Burrow is trending toward playing; sportsbooks started listing props.
• Mike’s “Burrow bomb” trade locks in the Chase/Burrow stack — seen as a title-winning move.
  • “He gave a tip a year or two ago: don't rest on your laurels. If your team is doing well, don’t rest. And he didn't.” — Andy (09:10).
• The implications of trade deadlines and last-minute deals; balancing strengths and weaknesses in redraft leagues.

3. News & Notes (09:49–11:51)

• Multiple players returning to limited practice: Aaron Rodgers, Jalen Warren, Ramondre Stevenson, Darius Slayton, Josh Jacobs, Bucky Irving.
• The importance of Sunday Live for late-breaking actives/inactives.
• Daniel Jones (calf) — no real reason for alarm.

4. Matchup Previews

Jets @ Ravens

• Ravens favored by 13.5; Jets implied for only 15.5 points.
• Jets’ switch to Tyrod Taylor at QB may represent a minor upgrade, but Breece Hall is a volume-dependent, low-ceiling play against a surging Ravens run D.
• “You’re not looking at this like, ‘Breece Hall, start of the week.’” — Andy (13:31)
• On the Ravens: Lamar leads the NFL in TD rate but has lacked yardage lately; likely a ground-focused win with Derrick Henry in “Yeti Season”.
• Zay Flowers labeled “boom/bust” and not a must-start. Mark Andrews = “touchdown or bust,” with Loveland offering a safer floor.

Dome Zone: Five Consecutive Indoor Games

Browns @ Raiders

• "I don't really want to break the matchup down beyond the fantasy stuff. It'll gross me out." — Jason (17:43)
• Both offenses anemic; fantasy picks limited to Brock Bowers, Ashton Genti, Quishon Judkins, maybe Harold Fannin (if Najoku is out).
• Total avoid for wide receivers.

Jaguars @ Cardinals

• Jacoby Brissette’s strong passing volume: “Averaging 42 passing attempts per game… he’s been a legit, great play.” — Andy (24:01)
• Michael Wilson a high-confidence start due to target monopoly; reluctant endorsement of Greg Dortch or Jacoby Meyers for deeper leagues.
• On the Cardinals, RBs: ETN & Bashaw Tutin expected to dominate as Arizona struggles mightily versus the run.

Eagles @ Cowboys

• Crucial, close division battle; fantasy hopes tied to Cowboys’ offensive performance.
• “My fantasy season will go the way of the Cowboys’ offense. This is terrifying.” — Andy (28:47)
• Dak vs. Purdy debate: Andy prefers Purdy this week even as a Dak owner.
• CD Lamb, AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, and Javonte Williams are automatic starts.
• Jake Ferguson’s usage dips: “My confidence in Ferg Daddy has gone down for sure.” — Jason (31:33)
• Brief sidebar: Jackson Dart ruled out, affecting fantasy lineups (32:00).

Falcons @ Saints

• “Kyle Pitts… I would rather play [him] than Mark Andrews.” — Andy (36:24)
• Pits’ high target volume when London is out; dart throw potential for Darnell Mooney.
• Saints excitement around the switch to Tyler Shough at QB; fantasy arrows up for Chris Olave.

Buccaneers @ Rams

• High-scoring expectation.
• Questions about Baker Mayfield’s injury status; optimism if he plays.
• Sean Tucker's emergence as a recommended play over Rashad White, with hot-hand logic prevailing.
• Rams’ D makes this a tough matchup for both rushing attacks, but Kyren Williams, Puka Nacua, and Devonte Smith are plug-and-play.
• Cautious approach to Bucs' WR Chris Godwin due to lingering injury.

Panthers @ 49ers

• 49ers favored by 7; high-scoring expectations.
• Brock Purdy = “start of the week”; highlighted mind-meld with George Kittle (Kittle has caught 23 straight targets).
• Chuba Hubbard vs. Rico Dowdle: Carolina moves decisively to Dowdle as the lead back.
• TMAC (Tet a Roa McMillan) flagged as a strong start by Andy.
• Fun banter: “George Kittle could juggle, dunk, and ride a wheelie down the street.” (46:51–49:13).

5. Arizona Cardinals Quarterback Debate (24:34–27:03, 37:32–39:21)

• Extended, passionate discussion about Kyler Murray’s future and contract.
  • Jason predicts Kyler will be cut, not traded, due to no market for his contract: “We will get nothing. He will be cut this offseason.” (26:03)
  • Andy disputes, believing teams (Jets?) would pay for him: “There are so many franchises that would drool over having Kyler.” (25:52)
• Team purgatory vs. moving on for hope of a reset.

6. Fantasy Face Off (50:41–end)

• “Wheel of Shame” punishment: Jason dons the notorious pig mask he’d originally purchased to prank Andy (hence, the “ultimate backfire”).
  • “You got your own punishment. This is crushing.” — Andy (51:55)
• Producer team joins the prop pick contest for a “hater lineup” (all fades):
  • Example props:
    • Matt: Shador Sanders, over 0.5 INTs
    • Andy: Trevor Lawrence, over 0.5 INTs
    • Jason: Jared Goff, over 209.5 pass yards
    • Running back: Josh, Chase Brown under 64.5 rush yards; Andy, David Montgomery over 0.5 receptions.
    • WR: Andy, Stefon Diggs, over 12 fantasy points (PPR); Jason, Andonai Mitchell more than 68.5 receiving yards.
    • TE: Andy, Hunter Henry over 3.5 receptions; Jeremy, Jake Ferguson under 36.5 rec yards.
• The mask physically pains Jason throughout: “This is the worst thing I’ve ever worn... It hurts in an unimaginable quantity of pain.” — Jason (56:10–56:17)

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Defensive Dominance:
  “When you can rush four and sack the quarterback every other play... it's a cheat code.”
  — Andy Holloway, 02:21

• On Fantasy Frustration with Buffalo’s Receivers:
  “It's all well and good to sit Keon Coleman down, but you really... the depth chart just don't feel very good.”
  — Jason Moore, 03:58

• League Trade Strategy:
  “If your team is doing well, don’t rest... He made a great transaction. And now I'm scared. Now I'm very scared.”
  — Andy Holloway, 09:10

• On The Burrow/Chase Stack:
  “The fact that you can now say CMC Bijan, Chase Burrow... that's going to be a huge Burrow.”
  — Jason Moore, 09:35

• Dynasty Insight:
  “Usually when the tight end one is around WR10-15. Right now he [Trey McBride] is scoring as the WR1, the best pass catcher in the league in games with Jacoby Brissette.”
  — Andy Holloway, 24:27

• On the Cardinals/QB Future:
  “We will get nothing [for Kyler]. He will be cut this offseason.” — Jason Moore, 26:03
  “There are so many franchises that would drool over having Kyler.” — Andy Holloway, 25:52

• On Wheel of Shame Backfire:
  “You got this for me… and I’m just putting it right back. You got your own punishment. This is crushing.”
  — Andy Holloway to Jason Moore, 51:44

• On Tight End Purgatory:
  “My confidence in Ferg Daddy has gone down for sure.”
  — Jason Moore, 31:33

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Thursday Night Recap: 01:31–06:20
• Trade & Joe Burrow Return: 07:47–09:32
• Injury News (Limited Practices): 09:49–10:31
• Jets @ Ravens Preview: 11:57–15:52
• Dome Zone Games (Browns/Raiders, Jaguars/Cardinals): 16:26–24:46
• Eagles @ Cowboys, Dak Debate: 28:36–33:02
• Falcons @ Saints (Kyle Pitts): 34:33–36:28
• Buccaneers @ Rams: 39:39–43:52
• Panthers @ 49ers: 45:27–50:19
• Cardinals QB/Kyler Debate: 24:34–27:03, 37:32–39:21
• Fantasy Face Off/Wheel of Shame: 50:41–End

Overall Tone and Takeaways

• The show remains fast-paced, analytical, and heavy on actionable matchup advice, but always interspersed with humor, playful jabs, and moments of self-deprecation.
• The “Wheel of Shame” segment (with backfiring pig mask punishment) demonstrates the hosts’ commitment to keeping fantasy lighthearted; plenty of commiserating over unlucky trades and the pains of season-long management.
• This episode is particularly memorable for its deep and candid Arizona Cardinals segment: a raw, detailed peek into the emotions of NFL fandom and dynasty management.
• Across all previews, the hosts smartly balance matchup analysis (“play them for the volume,” “avoid all WRs on both sides”) with a willingness to pivot based on practice, injury, or bizarre game flow.

For listeners in a hurry:
– Start at 01:31 for the game recap through early news/notes.
– For the densest matchup analysis, jump to 11:57.
– For pure entertainment, the Wheel of Shame and Face Off from 50:41 on is can’t-miss.

Quote of the Episode:
“You got this [pig mask] for me trying to get me, and it didn’t come in time, so now I’m just putting it right back. You got your own punishment. This is crushing.”
— Andy Holloway to Jason Moore, 51:44

Final Word

Classic Fantasy Footballers: Engaging, deeply knowledgeable, and never afraid of a little humility — whether that’s suffering through bad trades, awkward costume punishments, or the existential fate of their beloved Cardinals. The analysis is sharp, the advice sound, and the laughs consistent. A “must-listen” for competitors and comedy-seekers alike.