Week 12 Start/Sit + TNF Preview, Raider Rants! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/19

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Week 12 Start/Sit + TNF Preview, Raider Rants!
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore
Date: November 19, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the crucial Week 12 start/sit decisions, previews the Thursday Night Football (TNF) matchup between the Buffalo Bills and Houston Texans, and delivers classic rants and insights on the struggling Raiders. With only two hosts this episode (Andy and Jason, as Mike is out), the show keeps its sharp, entertaining tone while helping fantasy managers navigate the final playoff push. There's actionable advice on backup/waiver options, relevant news and injury updates, strategies for managing fantasy playoffs, and a loaded mailbag tackling flex and positional dilemmas.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Host Banter & Quick News

• Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright is off this episode (at Disneyland), so it’s a "two-man band" episode.
• Immediate TNF buzz: Keon Coleman will be active after a short suspension, and Shadour Sanders is getting his first NFL start for the Browns – a developing storyline.
  • Jason: “Going to practice with some of the first team for the first time.” (03:07)

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2. Raiders ("Raider Rants") & Fan Reaction

• The hosts revisit their take on the Las Vegas Raiders’ year-long dysfunction, referencing a listener call that humorously sums up the Raiders fan experience:
  • "It's like waiting to get ice cream and somebody shows a scoop of poop on your ice cream cone when you want an ice cream." – Ozzy from Anaheim (05:00)
• Hosts highlight the sense of shared misery and hopelessness among certain fan bases, comparing Raiders fans to how they feel about their own teams.

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3. Fantasy Playoff Strategy & Weekly Planning (06:09–07:51)

• With just three weeks left before fantasy playoffs, the hosts stress the importance of proactive planning:
  • Analyze your league and playoff seeding.
  • Start looking at opponents’ schedules and remaining matchups.
  • Consider holding multiple defenses for maximum upside.
• Jason discusses tough start/sit and rival block situations:
  • “I almost dropped Brock Purdy… I don't think I want to drop him and then have him play him against me…” (07:05)

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4. Backup/ Waiver Wire Options (08:48–15:26)

• Segment sponsored by Progressive Insurance.

• Key advice: After waivers run, always check who gets dropped, as sneaky values may emerge.

  • “Drop it like it’s hot!” (08:48)

• Review of trending dropped players and whether to follow suit:

  • Joe Flacco: OK to drop with Chase out, and Burrow’s return looming.
  • Quentin Johnston: Despite bad games and a bye, he’s a hold due to touchdown potential (14:41).
  • Parker Washington: Advises holding through slump.
  • Rashad White & other RBs: Don’t chase knee-jerk drops if upside remains; especially not in shallow leagues.

• Specific pickups & backup stashes:

  • Andre “Yoshivas” Iosivas (CIN): May see more targets with Jamar Chase suspended. (12:08)
  • Quentin Johnston (LAC): “Brighter days are ahead… not getting rid of him.” – Jason (14:22)
  • Darius Slayton: Good matchups, solid injury fill-in. (15:26)

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5. News & Notes (16:15–19:48)

• Jamar Chase suspension upheld.
• Jaylen Warren likely to play, albeit limited.
• Aaron Rodgers (wrist) is pushing to play, but status still up in the air.
• Shadour Sanders will start against the Raiders; concerns about pass protection against Maxx Crosby.
  • “Shadour Sanders, his biggest problem on film was always like, holding onto the ball…he will just keep backing up and he's going to back up into long, deep sacks from Maxx Crosby.” – Jason (18:14)
• Kenneth Walker (SEA) getting more opportunity, trending up.
  • “He's the better running back…” – Jason (19:17)

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6. Thursday Night Football (TNF) Preview: Bills at Texans (22:22–28:33)

• Buffalo Bills (7-3) at Houston Texans (5-5)
  • Bills are 5.5-point road favorites; over/under 43.5.
• Houston’s defense highlighted as elite at home, especially against pass and QBs.
  • “They're number one against fantasy quarterbacks. Which Josh Allen is the entire team for the Bills.” – Jason (23:21)
• Fantasy implications:
  • Start Josh Allen and James Cook no matter what; no other Bills recommended.
  • For Houston, Nico is a start, and Woody Marks is a decent flex.
  • TE discussion: Caution with Dalton Schultz this week; favor Noah Fant or Hunter Henry.
• “We're anti-murder podcast. We always have been, always will be.” – Jason (26:28)
• Buffalo D is run-funnel lately: 32 RB fantasy points allowed per game last six weeks.

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7. Mailbag/Q&A Highlights

Jameson Williams Rest-of-Season Outlook (30:15–31:59)

• Rest-of-season WR16: Solid ceiling due to the Lions’ schedule and Laporta’s injury.
  • “Over last five weeks he’s on pace for almost 1200 yards, 13 touchdowns…that’s not a small sample.” – Andy (31:59)

Start/Sit Dilemmas & Rapid-Fire Advice

• AJ Brown vs Jameson Williams: Stick with AJ Brown even vs Dallas (33:34).
• JAMO vs Davante Adams: Don’t start Williams over Adams yet (34:02).
• George Pickens vs Rome Odunze: Lean Pickens but both are close; Pickens not a ceiling play against Philly. (34:10–36:02)
• Dak Prescott vs Matthew Stafford: Play Stafford for matchup upside (36:10–36:47).
• Cortland Sutton rest-of-season: Hosts see Sutton as a low WR2/high WR3 (Andy WR24, Jason WR18) but both would trade for Jamo due to Sutton’s tough playoff schedule. (39:33–41:10)

Fab/Playoff Strategy (45:17–46:10)

• Preserve fab to get priority adds during title weeks—don’t get stuck with $0.
• Grab defenses a week ahead to stay ahead of waiver competition.

Drake London & Falcons Outlook (47:18–48:42)

• London was on fire as WR1 with Penix, but with Kirk Cousins, he’s a middling flex at best; expectation reset is necessary.

Alvin Kamara & Bijan Robinson Tempos (50:05–52:59)

• Kamara: Still usable; blew up bad vs Rams but volume is elite.
• Bijan Robinson: Locked in as a safe top-end RB; not the goal-line back but “indestructible” (Jason, 52:26).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “It's like waiting to get ice cream and somebody shows a scoop of poop on your ice cream cone when you want an ice cream.” – Listener Ozzy from Anaheim (05:00)
• “Drop it like it’s hot!” – Andy (08:48)
• “Brighter days are ahead for Quentin Johnston.” – Jason (15:11)
• “We’re anti-murder podcast. We always have been, always will be.” – Jason (26:28)
• “Over last five weeks [Jameson Williams is] on pace for almost 1200 yards, 13 touchdowns… that’s not a small sample.” – Andy (31:59)
• “Brighter days are ahead for Quentin Johnston…I’m not getting rid of him.” – Jason (14:22)
• “If you go into your fantasy playoffs with Sutton and count on him… it’s going to be a nightmare.” – Andy (40:14)
• “He’s indestructible this season. He cannot get injured…Not this year. Indestructible.” – Jason, on Bijan Robinson (52:59)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:42] – Listener “Poop on ice cream” Raiders call
• [06:09–07:51] – Fantasy playoff prep strategy
• [08:48] – Backup option/waiver advice
• [16:15–19:48] – News & injuries (Jaylen Warren, Aaron Rodgers, Shadour Sanders, Kenneth Walker)
• [22:22–28:33] – TNF Bills vs Texans breakdown
• [30:15–31:59] – Jameson Williams ROS rank
• [34:10–36:02] – Pickens vs Odunze debate
• [39:33–41:10] – Sutton trade advice & playoff schedule caution
• [45:17–46:10] – Fab management tips for playoffs
• [47:18–48:42] – Drake London/Kirk Cousins analysis
• [50:05–52:59] – Kamara & Bijan rest-of-season confidence

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Episode Tone & Style

As always, the tone is lively, accessible, and laced with humor. The hosts make complex strategy clear, keep it engaging with good-natured jabs and personal anecdotes, and balance sharp analysis with fan empathy.

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In Summary

Listen to this episode for a sharp TNF preview, bold start/sit calls, actionable roster moves for Week 12 and playoff push, and, as always, a healthy dose of rants from fans and hosts alike. The Raiders are still tragic, Keon Coleman’s back, Shadour Sanders is starting, and the fantasy playoffs are nigh—tune in for the edge you need.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in. Wednesday, November 19th. Jason Moore is here. I'm Andy Holloway. Two man band today. Great show for you.

[Jason Moore]

Even better show.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't want to say it right.

[Jason Moore]

It's not. It's not because Mike's not here. It's because the bear is here.

[Andy Holloway]

Right? That's what it is.

[Jason Moore]

Let's go with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's go with that. What's up, my best friend?

[Jason Moore]

What's going on? Lot to get into. We got football coming up soon tomorrow. And you know who's playing in that game?

[Andy Holloway]

I think some teams.

[Jason Moore]

Keon Coleman. He's back.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, did he get the. They didn't do the one drive thing with him. They did the one game.

[Jason Moore]

They did the one game.

[Andy Holloway]

The full one game.

[Jason Moore]

And the one drive thing. It worked so well for cd. Jason said his name reminded me of that. I mean, you saw the evidence of what a small suspension, a little benching did for cd, Right?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, now what can a whole game do?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, Keon's going off.

[Andy Holloway]

We got word this morning that against all odds and all opposition, Shadow Sanders will be starting for the. The Browns.

[Jason Moore]

And all coaches decisions.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, they're like taken out of his hands.

[Andy Holloway]

They actually tried, from what I understand, they. One of the janitors, they tried to give him a workout, tried to suit him up, but couldn't sling it. Couldn't sling it. Like Shador. So Shador Sanders getting the start we got that word moments ago.

[Jason Moore]

And going to practice with some first. Some of the first team for the first time.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of. Because the Internet is stupid. There's been a lot of controversy about whether backups get first team reps or not. And, you know, James Jones came out yesterday, said every single practice with Brett Favre last few snaps would go to Aaron Rodgers because you want to know that they can do it if they need to come in because injuries happen.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And I would understand the argument of like, well, but that was Aaron Rodgers. He was a first round pick. Like, they wanted to get him some snaps. They know he's the future. But also the counterargument is it was Brett Favre. You had Brett Favre that you're taking first snaps away from. Not Dylan Gabriel or as you call.

[Andy Holloway]

Him, Gillen, Dylan Gabriel.

[Jason Moore]

I don't even. I black out when I say his name now. No, I have no idea what.

[Andy Holloway]

You got your Ariana Grande names. You got your Gill and Gabriels. The Browns are playing the Raiders. Speaking of the Raiders, we talked.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, we were very kind about them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we talked about them a lot yesterday. Kind of ranted about what's going on in Las Vegas. And, you know, I mentioned that if we had done that about the Bears, who are, congrats, seven and three top.

[Jason Moore]

Your division, winning, close, unwinnable games.

[Andy Holloway]

Give him a round of applause.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, baby. Go Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't know how long that's gonna last, but when you got the bear in the house.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

Congratulations to Bears fans. They'll still be mad at this, but the Raiders fans didn't see a lot of vitriol coming back at us. It's kind of like our cardinal sentiments where it's. They hate that team. We had. We had somebody write in about it.

[Listener Callers]

Hi, guys, this is Ozzy from Anaheim. Bonshire. Just wanted to say that I heard you guys talk about the Raiders, and as a Raiders fan, we know it totally sucks. It's like waiting to get ice cream and somebody shows a scoop of poop. A poop on your ice cream cone when you want an ice cream. Or it's kind of like being traffic and you never get out of traffic. It's just one accident after another after another. Last year, you think, oh, the accident is Josh McDaniels. We just got to get past that. Oh, now the accident, they don't coddle usually the quarterback. When you get past that, it never ends. You're in traffic forever.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Listener Callers]

Love the show. Thanks, guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, one accident after another. It's. Some teams feel that way.

[Jason Moore]

I like the. I like the poop and the ice cream.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought you would metaphor. No, that's spot on. But Raiders fans mostly just agreeing and hating their team the way that we hate our team most of the time. So moving on from that, we have a new leader in the Megalo bowl every Wednesday. We've been giving you the Megalobol leader. It is now M. Taylor 97. Meow, meow.

[Jason Moore]

That could be Mason Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

That might be the actual Titan. He's not doing a lot these days. Probably on his phone during the route knowing the ball is not coming his way. So congrats. M. Taylor 97. We have weekly rankings for the upcoming. What with three weeks left until the fantasy playoffs. So go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com start sit tool.

[Jason Moore]

This is a. This is a really fun time of year when you've got three weeks left before the playoffs. You can actually go start looking at your league and look at seeding. Look at other people's schedules like, okay, I've got to overcome these two guys now. My next three weeks is against. Oh, this is easy. That's easy. That's hard. Go look at their schedule, too. You can actually start having a feel for what you need to do, which weeks matter the most.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it's a good time to. We did waivers yesterday. We didn't say this on yesterday's show, but you need more than one defense on your team.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Most likely. I mean, plan your schedule out. Make sure you have every small advantage against your opponents when it's time to make the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, I almost. I'm playing Mike in Mike's. Mike's off your gallivanting in Disneyland while we have this matchup in both of our main leagues. In league of record.

[Andy Holloway]

You play in both leagues?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, League of record and the main dynasty league. Both leagues. We have two of the best teams. Both leagues. Mike might have the best team. And so we're going head to head in both those. And he leaves like the coward he is.

[Andy Holloway]

But I was just so cozy with his roster.

[Jason Moore]

Coward or chill, one of the two. But he's got to play Flacco and he's got to play Flacco without Jamar Chase. And I'm looking at that matchup and I almost dropped Brock Purdy and I was like, I don't think I want to drop him and then have him play him against me and have that be. Has that ever happened to you before, Joy? Bell, you son of a. I mean, no, that one hurt. That one hurt back in the day.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it is, it is that time of year. You can, you can look at those matches. We have the most data we've ever had. So you know really how like all of our stream finder tool and the strength of schedule tool, you can break those down into like the last five weeks, the last eight weeks. You can look at it in a smaller window. Defenses like Baltimore getting better over time versus the whole year. You kind of can make the most informed decisions. Right. We don't control what happens on the field. We don't know what happens with the weather. We don't know what happens with injuries. But you're just trying to. This show is built around putting all of the information out there and then letting you make your best decision to give you the best odds to win every week. And that's what we're going to try to do. Today we got Mailbag. Today we got backup options. We've got news to catch you up on so we'll, we'll get it started. Jay.

[Mike Wright]

Backup options presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, every week after waivers run, we remind you to drop it like it's hot. Which means take a look at the waiver wire, see who players are letting go of and make sure that they didn't let somebody spicy drop to the waiver wire. We are looking today at some backup options. Right. You missed the guy you wanted so we're going to give you some names that you can chase. I also want to mention Jason, the most dropped players on sleeper over the last 24 hours and whether you agree with sending them to the waiver wire. This one surprises me but I also understand why it's happening. Joe Flacco is one of the most dropped players.

[Jason Moore]

I do get it. I don't know if you really want to start him without Chase and then how soon before. Before Burrow is back. I probably it's Baltimore next week. I would make the change. I mean I just thought Mike would be better suited with Purdy. So you might if there's a better quarterback. That's why I would drop Joe Flacco. I'm not just dropping him.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Mariota and Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers with the hand injury. Not a, not an every week start anyways.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Jakori, Krosky, Merritt who is now basically a second third string running back who's going to stay there and it's on a bye week so I get it.

[Jason Moore]

I would be fine moving on from him if There's a better running back available.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on. Even though going into the bi week off of the injury in a bad week with Hampton waiting in the wings. I understand it. I probably wouldn't drop.

[Jason Moore]

I wouldn't do that. The next one. Rashad White. I don't think I would do that one either. I realized he got overtaken by Sean Tucker and Bucky's coming back. But Bucky's had such a weird injury. I don't think there's. I don't think it's really solid. I would still hold on to him.

[Andy Holloway]

Parker Washington at wide receiver, probably the biggest name that I'm seeing there. I would still hold on to him personally.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would. I mean there's. I think when you drop Parker after a bad game, you fear that he. Cinderella pumpkin. You know he's back into the pumpkin, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he. Travis Fulghum.

[Jason Moore]

Didn't it hit midnight and he is who we knew he was. You know, it's not like Parker. Parker Washington's a fine player.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's. I think he's going to get plenty of targets with no Travis on her. Brian Thomas Jr. Who knows? And this last week they destroyed on both sides of the ball. It was a running game. Tootin etn. I'm not that. I think Parker's a flexible guy personally. Zach Ertz, Kate Otten, Dawson Knox. We just got word the Dalton Kincaid is going to be out another week. It's Buffalo Houston on Thursday.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Not a great matchup for the Bills. Like another player that was very commonly dropped was Keon Coleman.

[Andy Holloway]

And I must have felt good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean obviously he was a healthy scratch on but I, you know, I still see an avenue where he could be a plugged in starter this week. No, with the Dalton Kincaid.

[Andy Holloway]

No, not against Houston.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they're.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want to mess around with.

[Jason Moore]

They're a top D against pretty much every position.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean maybe he could catch a touchdown, but that's. That's everybody. All right. Backup options, names that we didn't necessarily bring up yesterday you should pay attention to. I'm going to say, you know, we know Joe Flacco likes to sling it. No Jamar Chase. That suspension has been upheld. Andre Yoshivas. Yoshi Voss for Cincinnati. You guys brought up Fant yesterday, I think.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

I, you know, Yoshivas is a very capable receiver when you have an opportunity to step in if you can give him more targets. He's only had one game without Jamar chasing his career. He saw eight targets in that one and Flaco is averaging 43 passing attempts.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it feels like a Michael Wilson situation where it's like Joe Flag was going to throw for a lot of yards and have a lot of attempts. The matchup against New England is not some super scary matchup, so the ball will have to go more than just T. Higgins. I picked up Yoshi Voss in a league and I'm starting him. He was replacing Tyler Lockett for me this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

My backup options, I've got two of them. Neither are probably playing, so it's a little bit harder, which is why they're getting dropped everywhere. One definitely isn't one definitely, is it Quentin Johnston. He's going on to buy. He's got a goose in two of his last four weeks. I get it, man. Punt him off the bridge. The Chargers just got shellacked by the Jaguars. Their offensive line is toast and the vibes aren't great. Here's the thing, though. Great franchises and the Chargers have not been one historically. But you look at what happened with Baltimore. Baltimore was what, one in five? The wheels were falling off. The vibes weren't great. Lamar was injured. Their entire defense was injured. They got to that bye week and they're a good franchise. With a Harbaugh led coach with belief in themselves.

[Andy Holloway]

Harbaugh leads himself.

[Jason Moore]

He is a Harbaugh.

[Andy Holloway]

Harbaugh led coach is what you said. I don't think that's what you meant.

[Jason Moore]

No, I think it is, but I.

[Andy Holloway]

Think he's a Harbaugh led coach.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it is.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Anyways, their coach is a Harbaugh who leads them.

[Andy Holloway]

And I mean, they've won four or five before last week. You just throw that one out. I'm with you.

[Jason Moore]

They're a great team, but their offensive line struggles. They can't just patchwork things when they're missing guys in the middle of a run of games. But give them this little break and see the team kind of heal up and come back after the buy strong. Quentin Johnston is tied for sixth right now and receiving touchdowns in the league. You know, he's top 30 in pretty much all the yards, receptions and so I think he is a good enough player where I'm not getting rid of him. And he's the type of player where we're. We're starting Parker Washington's, we're starting Yoshi Voss's off the bench in certain weeks. I would still rather have Quentin Johnston active.

[Andy Holloway]

I would too.

[Jason Moore]

I.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, there are some players that when their disappointments for such a long period of time. Like Quentin Johnston was. The second they have a bad week or a bad couple weeks, we all jump ship. We're all like, yeah, that's what I thought. He sucks. I mean, what is it? There was a point in this season where he was one of the best receivers in the game. You could watch the tape. No, you could watch the tape. He was coming back to the quarterback. Look, it happens. Their offensive line is abysmal. He is a player that does benefit from more time.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. More time in the pocket. Let the fields develop the deeper routes. I mean, right now, it's like the three step drop. Get it to Ladd. If they're able to come out of the bi week and heal up, I think brighter days are ahead for Quentin Johnson and I.

[Andy Holloway]

Your other name is the one that I think people should definitely jump on.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. So Darius Slayton missed this last game with a hamstring issue. You know, Wink. Okay. Got engaged this week. Oh, my hammy.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, is that really what happened?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. I mean, he got engaged this week. He got engaged this week. Congratulations.

[Andy Holloway]

Down on one knee on accident because of the hamstring.

[Jason Moore]

Just went down too quick to that knee.

[Andy Holloway]

And then she assumed it was really the hammy, so.

[Jason Moore]

But he is dealing with the hamstring issue Also. Congratulations on your engagement, but Darius Slayton is. He's perfect for Jameis, and I think he's perfect for Jackson. Dart, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Dart got a promising report today.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So I'm just saying, either way, it's not Russian, and that's what's important here. So Darius Slayton, Great upcoming schedule, too.

[Andy Holloway]

That was backup options sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote [e-mail] let's talk news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

While Jamar Chase's suspension was upheld, we have news. Mike Tomlin saying he's optimistic about Jaylen Warren playing in week 12, but we'll be limited in practice early in the week. This is. I mean, it's big news. If you wanted to take your shot on Kenny Gainwell, who I think everybody would start if Warren was out.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Aaron Rodgers does not need surgery on his wrist. He is not expected to practice to start the week, but is planning on playing against Chicago.

[Jason Moore]

He's pushing to play. I don't know if we can plan for that yet.

[Andy Holloway]

What a big game for Chicago if they could somehow beat Pittsburgh this week and go to what, 8 and 3?

[Jason Moore]

I think people are asking. The question right now is like, okay, the Chicago Bears are leading the division, and all three of us in the divisional round, we picked Chicago to finish last because this is a brutal division. The Vikings are supposed to be great. J.J. mcCarthy's not doing very good.

[Andy Holloway]

I watched. I watched J.J. mcCarthy film.

[Jason Moore]

It's not good, man.

[Andy Holloway]

But luckily I didn't eat before. But go on.

[Jason Moore]

You know, and the Lions are legitimately awesome. The packers are great. So the question is, like, will the Bears make the playoffs? They don't have three weeks left. They've got, you know, we've got fantasy playoffs. It's a long time left. And I think the answer to that question comes this week. If they win this game, I think they're going to have the lead and the juice where they make it. If they. If they lose this one, it's going to be tough sledding.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I get it. It's a big game for them. Chador will start against the Raiders. Like, I mean, that's. That's not the worst opponent to go out there.

[Jason Moore]

And Stefanski said as he threw his clipboard to the ground, he'll get a week of practice.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe he won't get any first team rush this week. Wouldn't that really send a message? No competitive advantage here for him either. I think that's on purpose right now. Shadora will get the start and look, I'm excited. I want to just see what happens.

[Jason Moore]

At least they play the Raiders. I mean, I will say Max Crosby should have a field day. Shador Sanders, his biggest problem on film was always, like, holding onto the ball. Just the pocket. He never steps up in a pocket ever. He will scramble and run and step through and run, but he will just keep backing up and he's going to back up into long, deep sacks from Mason Crosby.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, buddy. Yep. Jackson Dart expected to return to practice today. Right. That's what's going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

Good.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike McDonald. This is.

[Jason Moore]

This is.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Mike's not here to absorb it. Everything's going. Everything's going, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he's at Disney. I know. It's really.

[Andy Holloway]

Was this all improv after Travion, and he's like.

[Jason Moore]

His wife said, how do you get happier right now? Yeah, it was like, what are you going to do? He said, I'm going to Disneyland. It was the classic.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, here's the next bit of Disneyland news for Mike. Mike McDonald said Kenneth Walker is, quote, showing that he's earning more opportunities to get the ball. Yeah, because he's.

[Jason Moore]

He.

[Andy Holloway]

He ran well.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's. He is. The better he's the better running back and so if they get him more work, there's more opportunities and chances for him to break one off. It's very similar to Travion Henderson where his first breakout game a couple weeks ago it was Mike was making the point. It's like most of his carries didn't go for a lot of yards but but he ended up with almost three but two huge breakaway touchdown runs because you kept giving him opportunities and that's the same type of player Kenneth Walker is.

[Andy Holloway]

We had the most opportunities for Walker since week four last week. We had the most receptions since week one last week for Walker and the snap count still 51%. But hey, I'll take that over the 44 and the 35 and other stuff that we were getting maybe some promising opportunities ahead. And that's it for news and notes. Sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll hit the preview.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Thursday night breakdown.

[Andy Holloway]

The Buffalo Bills at 7:3 take on the Houston Texans. Jason who are 5 and 5 thanks to Davis Smith leadership and viewing angle. I mean do you. Up above the pocket.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. 30,000 foot view.

[Andy Holloway]

Buffalo minus five and a half on the road over under 43 and a half. You know, frankly I feel like this game I would probably take the under and I think we might be in, I mean short week. Thursday night games have been, I mean We've had a 10 to 7 Thursday night game in recent history that we expected a lot of Buffalo, Houston, the Houston defense at home, I think that makes a big difference. Houston is, is. Is fighting desperately to stay in the AFC playoff picture. Buffalo, the big win over Tampa last week. But Houston's 13 of 4. Their defense is number one in yards per game allowed, number one in points per game allowed.

[Jason Moore]

They're number one against fantasy quarterbacks. Which Josh Allen is the entire team for the Bills?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. Do you, do you agree? Do you?

[Jason Moore]

Well, it depends on which Bills show up here because I. So I went into last week talking about how I'm not sure that the Bills are as great as we think and then they went out and put 44 points up against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I heard you.

[Jason Moore]

But the week prior to that they lost to the Miami Dolphins and they scored 13 points. They lost to the Atlanta Falcons and scored 14 points. It hasn't been a beautiful season for them.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's not been. Cruise control.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So the Atlanta game and the Miami game, both of those were on the road. The Tampa Bay game where they were awesome. The Kansas City game where they won against the Chiefs, both of those were at home. So this game being in Houston, to me it makes an impact. I mean, you know, it's not as easy, it's not as black and white as that. But for a team that has been really good sometimes, really questionable sometimes, and it's all been at home versus on the road and now they're playing a great defense on the road. It could be tough sledding and honestly their best pass catcher this season has been Dalton Kincaid, who's out and he's not going to play. So yeah, I can see this game hitting the under and being like as kind of ugly.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And I definitely see Davis Mills in that offense struggling against Buffalo. What's wild. Like I'm looking at the playoff picture, right? Number one seeds, Denver. Number two seeds, New England leading the division. Number three is Indianapolis. Do you think those three teams or let's just go to four.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was going to say let's put Pittsburgh at 4.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you think those teams want to play Kansas City or Buffalo?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

That just seems like you are setting. I mean.

[Jason Moore]

Or the Ravens.

[Andy Holloway]

Or the Ravens. I mean, you'll be at home. You'll be at home for your one game.

[Jason Moore]

The AFC was so much more dominant than the NFC coming into this season because it just seemed like the NFC is like, okay, you got to. Maybe, maybe the Eagles will be really good. Maybe the Lions will do it again. But on the, on the afc, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Mean, you've got Baltimore's guaranteed, Buffalo's guaranteed, Kansas City's guaranteed.

[Jason Moore]

Those three teams are. We know they're the. We just. We don't know the order 1, 2 and 3 seed, but they are the top three seeds and now none of them are in the top four.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Kansas City, Baltimore out of the playoffs right now.

[Jason Moore]

Crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

So, no, if I was. If I was New England coming off a real sweet redemption season with Drake May and I'm at home and I have to face Kansas City or Baltimore, Buffalo, I would feel pretty bad about that.

[Jason Moore]

You're going to want that by.

[Andy Holloway]

You want that one seed. Yes, you do. You don't want to get bounced. But it's from a fantasy perspective. It's actually pretty simple because you're not benching Allen or Cook no matter what you think about the defensive situation.

[Jason Moore]

Correct. And you're not starting anyone else.

[Andy Holloway]

No. And then on the other side, Nico is a lock. And then, you know, you could, you could look at what he. Marks and look at the utilization and probably start him and say, look, Sean Tucker succeeded against this Buffalo defense last week. Marks is getting enough work. Can catch the ball to me. I wouldn't sit him down. I almost said put him down. I wouldn't do that either.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I wouldn't put him down. That's illegal.

[Andy Holloway]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

Even with.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't support that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, not. We're anti murder podcast. We always have been. Always, always will be.

[Andy Holloway]

Doesn't matter.

[Jason Moore]

I went and I rewatched every Woody Marks attempt of the last two weeks and I think he is slightly above average. The problem was that the defense is not concerned with this passing game very much. And so there weren't a lot of holes open up for him. Almost everything was an inside run and it was just kind of ho hum. I think you can start him. I think he gets more than 15 carries in this game. I'm just doubtful that anything great happens.

[Andy Holloway]

He's above the he's above the Bam Knight tier. The Michael Carter tier. He's above the Tajay Spears tier.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. So otherwise, I mean, you could definitely shoot your shot, I think with Dalton Schultz because he's been top 10 in four or five weeks. If you're playing roulette at tight end, you are facing a Buffalo defense that has been on the year.

[Jason Moore]

They're awesome. They. Depending on which metrics you're looking at. Yeah. They don't give up a lot of points to tight end. So I don't love Dalton Schultz in this. And there are some guys that are on.

[Andy Holloway]

Like you play Joanne Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

I would definitely play Juwan Johnson over him and the other name. I'll throw out Noah Fant. My start of the week. Yeah. I would play Noah Fant. I would play Hunter Henry, who has an awesome matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

My start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

He's my start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just kidding.

[Jason Moore]

He's already in there, bro. You can't have him.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Yeah. I don't want him. He's yours.

[Jason Moore]

Good.

[Andy Holloway]

But yeah, it should be. Maybe we'll get pleasantly surprised. Right. We think we're going to have a shootout with Denver and that they get shut down by the Raiders. So maybe we'll get some excitement. Obviously Nico Collins can get some stuff done in the passing game against Buffalo and maybe Woody Marks gets it going. Buffalo just. They're giving up 32 fantasy points to the running back position a game over the last six weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So it's very run funnel Olay defense right there. Yeah. Anything else from this game you want to talk about? Any other players? Please?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Please, no. Yeah. You're not messing with Shakira, who's also not practicing after a negative three yard game. And Tyrell Shavers not making your razor out going Shavers. Oh, I get it. Yeah. My dynasty team probably should. He's probably out there, but. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not taking a shot on that. So you ready? Who's doing the mailbag drop today? Who deserves it from the Deucers?

[Jason Moore]

The Deucers. We know who deserves it from the Deucers.

[Andy Holloway]

Do we?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's the Falcon.

[Andy Holloway]

Why? Why? Because it'd be the best.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He's been sick. And this is how you get better.

[Andy Holloway]

Clear your throat.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Deep voice.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Why not? He loves it.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

He's clean. Are you ready over there?

[Jason Moore]

Here we go. I think so.

[Andy Holloway]

It's gonna be bad.

[Mike Wright]

Mailbag. Mailbag. Presented by NFL Sunday Ticket on YouTube TV.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he played it a little safe. Tried not to yell, but, you know, you didn't. You didn't break any equipment.

[Jason Moore]

Very loud. The beginning was worse than the end.

[Andy Holloway]

It wasn't that bad.

[Jason Moore]

It wasn't that good.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

But good job.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm proud of it. Wasn't dangerous.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Into the mailbag we go. If you have a question for the show, go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. click that submit a question button. You can also dial our voicemail hotline. 302464, TFFB.

[Jason Moore]

Falcon's going to take off every Wednesday. Show that Mike misses forever. Oh, I'm sick. I'm on the toilet, guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. No, I mean he, he stepped up. We're good. We got questions or you got questions? We got answers for you. Trying to get you ready for the upcoming Week 12 matchups. We got some voicemails to jump into. No more Raider fans. No Raider fans defending the team, by the way. We never got any of those voicemails, but let's jump in here.

[Listener Callers]

Hey, guys. John from Chicago calling in. Love the show with the latest explosion that Jameson Williams has had lately here in the season, how are we seeing him moving forward and moving into the playoffs as far as receiver rank? Thanks.

[Jason Moore]

He's a high upside volatile player. So I tried to trade for him. It wasn't like I went hard. But I made an offer for him from you and you said no, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Was it a draft pick?

[Jason Moore]

I don't even remember the offer it ended up. It was. I don't remember the exact offer we ended up making. Trade for Parker Washington instead.

[Andy Holloway]

But yeah, I mean, Jamo is, you know, they have the highest implied point total of the week at 30 points this week. And Sam Laporte is out. Yeah. So, you know, golf is. Golf has got a great opportunity as a streaming quarterback this week.

[Jason Moore]

They have games left this season against the Giants, the Cowboys, the Steelers, the Bears, like some really good passing high over under type of matchups that you would expect. So is he going to be great every single week from here on out? No, of course not. He's not that type of player. Will he continue having big performances and right this second seem like he's going to stay in the flames? I think so. Where would you put him rest of season wide receiver?

[Andy Holloway]

16.

[Jason Moore]

That was the exact number I thought.

[Andy Holloway]

16. I think. I think he will be pretty consistent. I actually think he will with what they have at wide receiver without the LaPorta checkdowns. I think that you will see more consistency from him. And you've seen, you know, over the last five weeks he's on pace for almost 1200 yards, 13 touchdowns. That's not a small sample. Right. That's.

[Jason Moore]

The Laporta injury makes a huge deal. It takes another mouth feed away and leaves more to the pie. But the back injury, he went on IR so you know, he's missing four games. But they, the way they were talking about that was that they hope they get him back, you know, for the playoff run. So I think for fantasy football purposes, JMO will be without laporta for pretty much the rest of the fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

I've got, and I know it was a really rough start. They were not utilizing him. They have different play calls. I'm. Do you know what he is as the fantasy wide receiver right now on the year?

[Jason Moore]

I.

[Andy Holloway]

It's only been hot for three weeks. What do you think he is?

[Jason Moore]

I would guess like wide receiver. 21, 24. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

But he's in the top 24 and we've got a nice, you know, we've got 12 through 18 to go. We'll see what happens. We were, we were kind of looking over the my guys this morning, Jason and I, and you know, does Hampton get back out there? It's pretty hard to pick nine my guys that don't have injuries. Hampton's obviously got one. Kittle had one earlier in the year. But with Travion turning it around a little bit with Pickens now number two in the league in yards, these guys look like they could. Yeah, Buca has been great. Chase Brown has come on once. Joe Flacco, like, hopefully these guys pay dividends over the back half of the year. I mean we're, we're rooting for that. Obviously we have another question from Lino Lino in San Francisco. Hey footballers, do I start AJ Brown at Dallas or Jameson Williams against New York?

[Jason Moore]

I'm still going to go A.J. brown at Dallas. The matchup is too good for A.J. brown to succeed, to fail.

[Andy Holloway]

You'd like to believe that for sure. And Dallas's defense has made some improvements over recent weeks. But yeah, I would probably still play AJ Brown there. I think both will be good. Jamo or Devonte Adams, Similar question. Adams with the 1:1 and 1. Last week they play Tampa Bay. Jamo with the matchup against the Giants.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I like Jameson Williams, but I'm not going to put him up to that tier yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't think I would do that either. Another voicemail question.

[Jason Moore]

I don't like this one.

[Listener Callers]

Hey, ballers, I Was wondering George Pickens or Roma Dunes. Thanks.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Pickens has the Philadelphia matchup, which I hate. Like, if it wasn't Philly.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no. This is an easy question. Pickens every week over Odunze. Pickens has just been too good all year. But I'm worried. Like, I put in in my. It was funny because I almost dropped Brock Purdy and I've got the Dax CD stack and I swapped Dak. I put Purdy in because I feel like there is a. There's a range of outcomes here. Dax had a couple of really, really bad games this season.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's ironic because the only game of the entire year where Pickens struggled was Philly.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, there's three for 30 against Philly. You'd like to believe, though, that, you know, the more attention is still going to be on the CD side.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think they can give attention everywhere. I mean, Philly, their defense is like. It scares me so much.

[Andy Holloway]

There's been a handful of defenses over the years where you feel like they get an extra player out there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Like the league's like, no, you can. You can go.

[Jason Moore]

They feel like two. They feel like they've got. They've got an extra D lineman and an extra db. It's not. Something doesn't add up. They are so utterly dominant now. This is a divisional game.

[Andy Holloway]

But you're not benching Pickens under any circumstance, are you?

[Jason Moore]

No, not under. It's funny because Pickens is, you could argue just as good as CD Lamb, right? Oh, yeah. This season. I mean, obviously.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Just flip a coin every week on who has the better game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And you don't ever consider benching CD Lamb. Like, I'm not going to bench CD Lamb, but at the same time, he's playing the same Eagles.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not benching Pickens for like Alec Pierce tier. I'm not benching Pickens for, you know, Tez or something stupid. I. Pickens needs to be played. It's just whether you like a Dunes against Pittsburgh more.

[Jason Moore]

I have them.

[Andy Holloway]

I kind of lean a Dunes a.

[Jason Moore]

I have them back to back in my rankings right now. The wide receiver 18 and 19. Odunze is one spot ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

While speaking of Dak, Jason Mack writes in off of Instagram. Should I start Dak the plentiful or Matthew MVP Stafford?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would go Stafford against the Buccaneers this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Stafford last week. Little disappointing on the fantasy front 130 and 2. But man, you realize Matthew Stafford hasn't thrown an interception since week three. He's been playing 27 and two, honestly. Touchdown to interception ratio.

[Jason Moore]

The Rams, I think, are. They're more in the elite tier of teams than they usually get credit for.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, this year I would. Or in this week I would play Matthew Stafford. Another Dak question. Do you trust Dak against Philly or Jacoby Brissette against Jacksonville? Who's at home?

[Jason Moore]

I've got Brissette's three spots higher.

[Andy Holloway]

I was gonna say Brissette is pretty easy on that one for me.

[Jason Moore]

Brissette has not yet. Not been a top 12 quarterback. He's at home.

[Andy Holloway]

Jackson knows if we'll have a ton to quarterbacks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I don't know if we'll have Marvin Harrison back or not, but he didn't need it last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And then Al Borland following up with his own question. Maybe. Maybe a little personal question over here. A friend asked me this question.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, just a buddy. He really isn't asking for a friend situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. What is Jeremy's name? No. What's the question? Dacher.

[Jason Moore]

Do you have the stones to play golf even if you watched him play last week against Philly?

[Andy Holloway]

Over Dac? Over Dak.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah, I would. I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'd play golf.

[Jason Moore]

Tell your friend.

[Andy Holloway]

Tell your friend. Will do. I bet he. Everybody already knows, though. What do you do with Cortland Sutton? It's been a brutal month. This question from T Nika on Instagram. Wide receiver, 37, 30, 58, 32. These are not stat lines we're proud of. 3 for 24, 4 for 59. One score in four weeks.

[Jason Moore]

His pace on the last month of football would be 51 receptions for 765 yards and four touchdowns on a season. So it's been. It's been tremendously bad. However, he started the season as the clear number one for this team. I think their offense did better.

[Andy Holloway]

It feels like he's not anymore.

[Jason Moore]

No, it does. I mean, he's. He's not. He's not leading them in targets. He's not leading them in yards. And really, if you say who's the number one wide receiver on a team, it's. To me, it's always targets. Who's. Who's the most targeted guy and that's Troy Franklin right now. However, it shouldn't be. I love Franklin, but Cortland Sutton is a better football player.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me, let me kind of read. I'm looking last year. So we were a little. We talked about this in the off season. Eight touchdowns for Cortland Sutton last year. The yardage wasn't great. 1,081 yards is not. That's not special. Right. For Sutton, that's 60 yards a game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So you look at the games where he scored last year, 4 for 53. That's a disaster if he doesn't score. Right. You have 3 for 32 with a touchdown. You have 5 for 55 with a touchdown. You know, he had some yardage games last year, but he was only had some this year.

[Jason Moore]

118, 81, 99, 87. He's had those games this season.

[Andy Holloway]

So where are you with him? Like we asked the question wide receiver. 16 was Jameson's answer rest of season, Sutton, I don't have. I have him lower than that.

[Jason Moore]

I got my number. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I think 24.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to say 18. I think he is. I think he's going to be better. So two of the last four games, we talk about this four game stretch he's been in. That's been so bad for. Even though they're winning the games, they've won all four. It's been so bad for the Broncos offense. Well, one was against Kansas City Chiefs this last week. That is maybe. I mean I don't know if they're the best defense in the league, but they're one of the top five. And another was against the Houston Texans in Houston. They're one of the hardest defenses to.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you get rid of Sutton. I think if you're tread deadlines this week, I think you get rid of them. If you, if you go into your fantasy playoffs with Sutton and you count on him in any capacity, I think.

[Jason Moore]

You'Re going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

It's going to be a nightmare. You play Green Bay, Jacksonville and Kansas City for your fantasy playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

Jacksonville's fine, Green Bay's not Jacksonville's.

[Andy Holloway]

Jacksonville's still gives up less points to the wide receiver versus the average minus 1.6 above expectation. And Green Bay, same, same thing. But then Kansas City, who you just.

[Jason Moore]

Talked about, obviously, and that's in the.

[Andy Holloway]

Championship week, like I would, I would absolutely trade Sutton for JAMO rest of season. I mean we both had a JAMO ranked higher anyways. But I don't have optimism that it turns around very much. Like you said the, you know, I.

[Jason Moore]

Think it will turn around but the ceiling. Sutton is not a ceiling play. You know, like what's the range of outcomes? Like JMO's best rest of season is probably like, oh, he just caught fire and he's the wide receiver 6 the best for Corlen Sutton is. He got a bunch of touchdowns and he's the wide receiver. 12.

[Andy Holloway]

So you do that trade too?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's a little bit different there in in Denver too. Like Troy Franklin's role is much larger and more defined. Evan Ingram wasn't on the roster last year. Pat Bryant wasn't on the roster last year. Marvin Mims catches the football. RG Harvey catches the football. He wasn't on the roster last year. I just think you can win without Sutton in a way you couldn't win without him last year. Occasionally.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, I mean they've won four games in a row without him.

[Andy Holloway]

Fair point. YouTube question. We'll get to it in just a second. One more break. More questions from the Foot Clan. What's up Foot Clan? You know the feeling when your fantasy lineup needs a miracle. Maybe you got that big injury. I wish that I could just plug in a backup and keep things rolling. With Progressive, you get a winning combo, quality coverage you can count on all in one place with a playbook full of customized options for your home and auto so you can have peace of mind that you're covered no matter what life throws your way. Don't get caught without a great backup. Switch to Progressive. Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions.

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, this question comes in from Lucas. Should I start Aaron Jones at Green Bay Little homecoming or Roma Dunes a against Pittsburgh? So flex question. Aaron Jones, Green Bay packers or Roman Dunes? Aaron Jones. We did see Jordan Mason get into the end zone. Aaron Jones though. Sixteen rushing opportunities last week looked good. Seventy yards, three catches. Do you feel safer with one of these guys?

[Jason Moore]

I feel safer with yeah, I feel safer with Aaron Jones. His involvement the last three weeks has basically been double digit fantasy points each of the last three weeks. Upside I think is probably more on odunze. He's had the bigger games. This is a pretty close one. Rome is home this week against Pittsburgh. I'm going to go Rome. You have to answer that question I'd go Rome. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Question from Robert over on X. Trying to.

[Jason Moore]

Brooks brings up a good point. This is a true revenge game for Aaron Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Gets the packers playing in Lambeau again.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean he got, he's had a few of these. Yeah. Robert trying to clinch the buy. Considering benching Ashton Genty. I think the discouraging 6 for 7 performance is factory for ETN. Am I crazy? ETN has Arizona this week in Arizona. Would you bench Genty for Travis ETN this week?

[Jason Moore]

No. No, I wouldn't.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you had them both on your roster, you'd go right back to Jinty.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was obviously a bad week. Ginty's had a couple of these recently, mostly top 12 performances. And then you get like a weird game like they played Kansas City and it was 6 for 21 and didn't get the ball in the passing game. And then you play Dallas and he's six for seven.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean this last week was so incredibly disappointing for all of the Raiders. But Genty is. He's too good to bench for etn, who's not good enough. If Tutin was out, which I haven't heard. Have you heard an update on whether.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Tootin's okay?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's what it seems like.

[Andy Holloway]

Unless we hear something else.

[Jason Moore]

I know he was injured at the beginning. If Tutin was out, then I would be willing to look at etn. Otherwise I'm going to keep playing Genti.

[Andy Holloway]

Eric Freeman wants to know thoughts on fab spending as playoffs get closer. Any strategies that you put into place with what your remaining fab is in your fab spend.

[Jason Moore]

First of all, one strategy is look at the other playoff bound teams and or every other team. But if you've got a lot more than them and you can spend more and you know, oh, I can, I can make a $12 bid and I'll still have more than everybody. Great. If you're really close to people, let them spend a little bit more heading into the playoffs so that entering the playoffs you have some left or you've got more than them. Another tip is I really like going into the playoffs not at $0. Some, some people have to, you know, push comes shove, you have to empty your fab budget and you can only make $0 bids by the time you get to championship week.

[Andy Holloway]

The best way to do that to conserve fab is to be ahead of the game to pick up the defense. A week ahead.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

That you need for. Even if you pay a buck. Right. It's not paying 6 or 7 on the week of or more than that and risking something. So look, we all have limited benches and you've got injuries and hopefully you got an IR spot and there's a lot to come into focus that even comes to mind when we're talking about these players that are getting dropped like the Flaccos or these other guys. Come on, if a Dell. Look, you're playing to win the championship. If you need to let those guys go because you need to put a defense on the roster, I'm fine with that. I'm not, you know, I'm not going to over emphasize depth at the expense of my fab budget either. So it's a balancing act. We got a question here from Braxton Instagram question temperature check on Drake London now that Kirk Cousins is at the helm and I didn't hit the button but we did get the final confirmation that season ending surgery for Pinnocks. He is done. It's a partial ACL tear which is bad and Kirk Cousins is going to be at the helm. Drake London is going to miss some time with the pcl.

[Jason Moore]

It sucks man, because. Let me read you, man, this is, this is so sad. So Drake London was on fire.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

With Michael Pennix. I mean you're talking about what do.

[Andy Holloway]

You have back to back number one finishes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Well, he had the number seven finish, the number one finish, the number one finish, bad game at 46. The number two finish, the number five finish on the week. Those are, those are like what Jamar Chase was doing last year.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just catching touchdowns every week.

[Jason Moore]

Now let me read you Drake London's last seven games with Kirk Cousins as the starter. Wide receiver 27. Wide receiver 33. Wide receiver 25. Wide receiver, 45. Wide receiver 15. Wide receiver 32. Wide receiver, 64.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean that's, that's almost worse than him just being hurt. I mean because you, you, you play him, right? If he's healthy, you're playing him no matter what with an expectation that Drake London is Drake London, not that Drake London is Parker Washington.

[Jason Moore]

Right? Yeah. I mean A wide receiver 27. Game A wide receiver 25. A wide receiver 15. Those aren't, those games aren't going to hurt you at all. Those are going to be a good Drake London.

[Andy Holloway]

But you're not going to win, but.

[Jason Moore]

You'Re not going to win a championship based on him. He needs to then be your, your double flex guy. You need to adjust expectations for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, well, well. Jason, your sleuthing Came true.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Wide receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. And Imari DeMarcato both officially out this week. Harrison recovering from the appendix. Appendix surgery. Yes, it's an appendix surgery. An appendectomy. What is it called? Al, you just said it. Appendectomy. Oh, there you go.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we've been talking about Michael Pinnocks and appendixes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

There's just a lot of words that sound like that. Harrison's going to be out. Michael Wilson is a must play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, we saw it last week that the matchup is fine. It's not like they're playing the Bengals, but it's not like they're playing the Texans. So you're going to. And honestly, Greg Dortch can be started.

[Andy Holloway]

I think so. I think he could be. He could be an emergency flex play.

[Jason Moore]

Like if you had Parker Washington or Dorch. Same game. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If BTJ is out, I'll probably still go Parker. Cardinals defense is funny.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say if Will Johnson is still out, I'll go Parker, which.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, there you go.

[Jason Moore]

That's the cornerback for the.

[Andy Holloway]

If this, then that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but pay attention to the rankings close to Sunday.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there you go. Instagram question from Austin. Does Alvin Camara have any hope to start putting up better performances and help your team?

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely. He does. So I know Camara has. He was on a bad stretch and then he had the horrific games. 0.2 fantasy points. That was against the number one rush defense in the league in the Los Angeles Rams. That was the bad game. That was the first game of Tyler Schuck coming off and being like, okay, is he. Does he have it? I went and I watched the film and I was like, shucks, Shuck's fine. Shucks is actually. He's not. He didn't look as bad as what you think he was. When they got blown out 10 to 34. The next game against Carolina, a game that Tyler Schuck and Alvin Camara won. Kamara had 25 opportunities in the game. And so if you're getting that amount of work, you know, they're on a bye week this week, but I think he's still got relevance left.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's.

[Jason Moore]

Are they coming out of their buy this week?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Don't they play Atlanta?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they play Atlanta this week. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Or as Kyle called them, an absolute skid mark of a team.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it's not going great for Atlanta right now.

[Jason Moore]

You know what? No Drake London, no Michael Penning for Kyle and us. Is that the I feel like the Cardinals are Atlanta west or Atlanta is the Cardinals East. Like they're both similar where they got enough pieces where you have hope oftentimes you could see how it could go well. And then they show flashes where it's like, oh, maybe there is a good defense here. Oh, maybe there is a good offense here. There's not ever.

[Andy Holloway]

So follow up question then maybe to close us out, Jay, the temperature check on Drake London, we walked through it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What about your temperature check on Bichon?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's going to hurt. The overall fantasy finish of Bijan. First of all, he's not the goal line back, which he's not. Not used at the goal line, but he's not the goal line back where when you're talking about there's no question if Derek Henry's their goal line back, if Christian McCaffrey is their goal line back, there's no question if Jonathan Taylor is the goal lineback. There's no, you know, these, these, you know, top awesome fantasy assets. That's not Bijan. And now you say, okay, well, they're going to score fewer points. Yeah. I mean, I'd still say B. John's a top six fantasy running back.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather have Jacobs with the injury concerns or would you rather Bijon without injury concerns?

[Jason Moore]

I would say I'd rather have Jacobs, but with the injury concerns, I'll take Bijon because Bijan, for all of his, you know, maybe the luster of him finishing as the number one running back is gone, but he's also not going to finish as low as number 10. He's going to be a very good fantasy asset. And I've said this all year. I said this before the year because I knew it. He's indestructible this season. He cannot get injured. I've said it so many times. If the if I was going to curse him or jinx him would have happened already. So it's not happening. It's not happening. Not this year. Indestructible.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's the mailbag right now. New users can get NFL Sunday ticket for the rest of the 2025 regular season for only $48. Offer ends December 1st. New users only. Terms and embargoes apply. No refunds, commercial use excluded. That'll do it. Tomorrow we'll get into the starts of the week. The Week 12 matchups begin. Jason and it's go time. Let's. Let's win some Foot Clan titles. We'll see you tomorrow.

[Mike Wright]

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