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Andy Holloway
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Mike Wright
Welcome in. I was gonna go with Christmas and I bailed out a nice mate.
Andy Holloway
Sounds well.
Jason Moore
See, now it's actually Christmas time, guys.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
December 1st.
Andy Holloway
Now it is actually. Chris. Oh, what you rocking here?
Jason Moore
It's got a little else.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah. Mike smiling.
Mike Wright
That's why it's so funny.
Jason Moore
Monday, December 1st. The fantasy footballers welcome into the show. Now it's appropriate to put. Put your tree up and hang your lights and play your Christmas music.
Mike Wright
It was appropriate.
Jason Moore
This was a later Thanksgiving, right, than it has been other years?
Mike Wright
It was.
Jason Moore
I think so.
Mike Wright
I thought it was. There's rules.
Andy Holloway
There are rules. But some years there's more time between where the Thursday lands within the month.
Jason Moore
Thursday or November.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
So sometimes it's later.
Mike Wright
Oh, wait, is it? It's always the last Thursday of the month, Josh.
Jason Moore
It's the fourth. I thought it was the fourth. It's not the last.
Mike Wright
It's the fourth.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I guess there is a world where you could have.
Jason Moore
That's right.
Andy Holloway
A fifth Thursday.
Jason Moore
That's right. You came in here hot like a Thanksgiving authority.
Mike Wright
Also, you.
Andy Holloway
You don't know jack.
Jason Moore
You don't know jack.
Mike Wright
So weird.
Jason Moore
But this is. I like this quick turnover to December. We're here.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
We are in it.
Jason Moore
Anything going on in the fantasy playoff world for anybody?
Mike Wright
Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.
Andy Holloway
I. I don't even know if I have the strength to talk about it.
Jason Moore
I can give the rundown and Mike, you can jump in.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Jason has. You know, he sold the farm. Yeah, Jason has gone. He's got Jonathan Taylor. He paid up for Josh Jacobs at the trade deadline. Our league of record where Al Borland and I fought last year in the title game. Not quite doing that this year, are we Al? Jason, Mike in the playoffs, Papa Josh in the playoffs or should be. But Jason's like, he's just on a rough patch. He's gone. He's gone through a little rough spell where week after week he's just kind of, you know. You traded for a Dunes A at the deadline that.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, when I was hot for a while. I think I've got some firepower with, with Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor and the CD Lamb, Dax Stack where I can win this thing. And so I was looking at maybe I could get the buy.
Jason Moore
Oh yeah, that was the old goal.
Andy Holloway
So yeah, I sold. I sold the farm for next year. Next year. I have no picks. I mean half the league is kind of like that.
Jason Moore
You have a first round pick.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Because you can't trade up because we don't trade those. And then you don't have a pick till I think the seventh. Oh my.
Andy Holloway
Something like that. It's like I'm bare. I'm bare.
Jason Moore
Yeah, your cupboard is.
Andy Holloway
And it's okay if you win the championship. If you go down there and you win the championship. Then I went on a rough patch and now I'm like there's a chance I don't make the playoffs.
Jason Moore
There's a slim chance that you miss.
Andy Holloway
And then it looked yesterday like there was a big chance because I was going to go 02. And somehow a magic miracle happened. In the afternoon games he had, my opponent was four players.
Mike Wright
It was Khalil Shakira, Steelers defense and Trey Tucker.
Jason Moore
And they did nothing.
Andy Holloway
Correct. They did nothing. My Chargers defense did well.
Jason Moore
So now it all comes down to tonight.
Andy Holloway
It's basically 10 points. No more than 10. Hunter Henry 10.1. 10 points or fewer.
Jason Moore
Oh, it's 10. I thought it was 11. 11.
Andy Holloway
I lose. Okay, so no, no, no.
Mike Wright
Hunter Henry, you got corrected now. Now it's 11. It's 11.1. You got a bonus point while you were sleeping.
Andy Holloway
Even better.
Jason Moore
So you're on Hunter Henry watch for tonight. And this is that time of year where every one of us out there.
Mike Wright
That 20 yard touchdown is going to hurt.
Jason Moore
I don't think he has the courage to watch.
Andy Holloway
I'm supposed to watch these games, but I don't know if I can do it. I need to like every play put a piece of tape over wherever Hunter Henry is. Just not.
Jason Moore
Did you watch it in a slight blur overall so you don't know who scores.
Andy Holloway
Just put a Gaussian blur the there.
Mike Wright
I already struggle with Hooper and, oh, Henry Hooper. Hooper.
Jason Moore
And Henry catches it.
Mike Wright
You're like, it's one of them tonight.
Jason Moore
You imagine if Hooper scores a touchdown, your heart will do.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
So that's Jason's situation. But I know everyone out there. It's on the line right now.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it is.
Jason Moore
Fantasy playoffs. So we're going to do our best to get you through the rest of week 13 into week 14 before your fantasy playoffs. We do want to announce here. I don't know if you can hit a little announce button for me, Al, but we have the winner of our James Cook signed jersey. We just picked that this morning. Thank you for everybody that entered. Oh, boy. It's Blake Hester. That's what happens when you ask for the drops from the producer. He finds another one. Blake Hester, congratulations. And by the way, tomorrow, thank you to everybody who listened to the Megalodon show. It was great to get all the hashtag triple gobble.
Mike Wright
Yeah, we got in the trender.
Jason Moore
We did.
Mike Wright
It's not easy these days.
Jason Moore
Got into.
Mike Wright
They've made it more difficult.
Jason Moore
The Twitter trending somewhere in the top 10.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And my favorite ones though were not just the people that got through it quickly. It was the ones that straggled in yesterday. They're like, I don't know if this is too late, but I finally finished the Megalodon and here you go. And yes, it was not too late. We'll pick those winners sometime today and announce them on tomorrow's show. Quick reminder, if you need help for week 14. Coming up, the weekly rankings, the start sit tool. All the articles, all of our premium in season tools, the ultimate dashboard and such can be found on the fantasy footballers.com you guys sent in your reactions as you always do on this fine Monday morning. Let's react to the weekend in a sophisticated way. Let's start with the good Rashi.
Andy Holloway
Twice you had Yay J Brown.
Mike Wright
Also AJ Crown.
Jason Moore
We had Don Tavian, John Wicks.
Mike Wright
Oh man.
Andy Holloway
And I finally got my Circle cd. Lamborghini.
Jason Moore
Yep.
Mike Wright
Adonai missile. Someone played Mitchell. Maybe if you did that would have been a great day.
Jason Moore
Also would have been nice to play Thrice Young or Brock.
Mike Wright
Wowzers that catch, dude. Kimani. Kimani Vidal. I was doing the Kimani cash money.
Jason Moore
Vital Vital.
Andy Holloway
Nico Ballin out there.
Mike Wright
A Jackson with JSN's on the Naughty list with Scam Darnold and Lamar Laxon.
Andy Holloway
Lamar Jack Squat.
Mike Wright
Ricky Smearsall.
Andy Holloway
Arande Badnston, Zay Flounders, Buston Jefferson.
Mike Wright
Aw.
Jason Moore
I thought this was funny. Amon Nah, Sit down.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So sad. He's a.
Jason Moore
Come on.
Andy Holloway
I know. Saquon Barfly.
Mike Wright
Kenneth Stainwell.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And then this one will hit close to home. It's the fall of Rome.
Andy Holloway
I don't care. He's on my bench.
Jason Moore
You have I told Jason this. I could not have done what you did, which was. Even though it was wrong, I guess in hindsight. He sat Roma Dunes at his, like, trade deadline, acquisition down. Not only did he sit him on his bench, but he set him on his bench when you could have watched him on, like an island game.
Andy Holloway
I didn't want to watch him.
Jason Moore
Yeah, but that's normally a motivation. Like. Yeah, because you were deciding between Pittman and him.
Andy Holloway
Odunze. Odunze. Olave and Pittman, which I just feel.
Jason Moore
Like some of us might have played a Dunes and the promise of watching.
Mike Wright
Him before most would have.
Jason Moore
Olave, with the injury, people were concerned and you made the right call there and it literally might save your season.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
If I.
Andy Holloway
If I had played Rome over Olave, I would. You'd already have lost, right? Not be on this show today.
Jason Moore
All right, well, thank you for your Monday punday submissions over on x @ the FF Ballers on Instagram at fantasy footballers. Let's talk some.
Andy Holloway
News. News and notes from around the league, presented by Progressive Insurance. Okay. In the latest breaking news, in the last eight games played, how many times has Roma dunes a scored seven fantasy.
Jason Moore
Points? It's not going to be.
Andy Holloway
Good. It's twice. Twice in the last two.
Jason Moore
Months. That's our first breaking.
Andy Holloway
News.
Jason Moore
Yeah, well, we didn't even have a chance on this show, I believe, to talk about Frank Ragnall, the center for the Lions, returning to the team before he failed his physical and is now not eligible to return.
Andy Holloway
It. That's.
Mike Wright
Wild. Like, you feel bad for the man. That's like. That.
Jason Moore
Sucks. That's a big.
Andy Holloway
Decision.
Jason Moore
Yeah. You're like, I'm going to do it.
Mike Wright
Back. And then a grade.
Jason Moore
Three.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Which is like, I don't even know if you have.
Jason Moore
A. How do you not know.
Andy Holloway
That? That's what's crazy. It's like. It's like, how do you go, you know what, guys? I'm coming out of.
Jason Moore
Retirement. Did.
Andy Holloway
He. Did he tear his hamstring coming out of retirement? Like, he's like. He got up so quick to celebrate his.
Mike Wright
Announcement. Or he's like, maybe they won't notice and I'll still get some.
Jason Moore
Money. Oh.
Andy Holloway
Man. But it was like this fanfare. The Lions account. What was funny about Tweeting out like, welcome back. We got our center back, guys. And then 24 hours later, he has failed his physical and is no longer.
Jason Moore
Eligible. Yeah, it's crazy. We do have a Monday night update. Jackson dart cleared. Concussion protocol is starting.
Mike Wright
Tonight. This will be a fun.
Jason Moore
Game. We had the Almond Ross St. Brown injury. This one was not one of the nice and convenient ones for fantasy players where he does a bunch of production and then gets hurt. This was Thanksgiving. It was a low ankle sprain. He didn't return. He's not expected to be placed on IR. By the way, I believe Jameson Williams had a 37% target share, first double digit target game of the year and was monster 144 and one huge game. The Lions play Dallas on Thursday. I would not expect Almond Ra to play in that one, which is. But you never.
Andy Holloway
Know. You.
Jason Moore
Never. You never know. He's a tough son of a gun. He's a little like Baker Mayfield, where if he can, he will. But I don't. I don't know if. You know. I tweeted this about Josh Jacobs 2 weeks ago when he missed the game and it got a lot of backlash. And I just said, you want this because you want Jacobs when it matters. You want him in the playoffs. You want him to take the week off versus getting re injured. Now, I didn't know he needed two weeks off before getting re injured. But you don't necessarily want Amon Rob back out on the field. And obviously if you're do or die for the playoffs, you're begging for him to be there. But if you're in the playoffs, you just want him the healthiest possible when you get there. So rushing it for Thursday and then missing two more weeks, that costs you your season potentially, is all I'm.
Andy Holloway
Saying. Well, the issue now, it's funny, we constantly. When Jacobs had his injury a couple of weeks ago, it was like that was. I think that was the correct analysis. But we're at the point now where it's like, okay, if almond raw misses 3 weeks, he is missing well that.
Jason Moore
Playoffs. Well, yeah, that would be.
Andy Holloway
Devastating. We're there. We got one week.
Mike Wright
Left.
Jason Moore
Ms. This one, come back for the playoffs. By the way, I believe Papa Josh traded the injured Drake Lennon to acquire Amon Ra for the playoffs. Thoughts on that.
Andy Holloway
Transaction? You got to do that.
Jason Moore
Man. I'm.
Andy Holloway
Sorry. Oh, you did.
Jason Moore
That? Yeah. Oh.
Andy Holloway
Okay. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Justin Herbert fracture in his left hand. It requires surgery. The team is unsure if he'll miss time, but Herbert says he plans to play through the injury. This is like.
Mike Wright
The. Should ask Aaron Rodgers how that.
Jason Moore
Goes. It's just wild though because everybody, every quarterback's hurting themselves severely in the non throwing arm. Like Baker's shoulder and Rogers hand and Herbert's hand and that's the way to do it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Don't. Don't do the right. I mean it.
Mike Wright
Is. It's much.
Jason Moore
Better. So surgery today. Oh.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Jaden.
Jason Moore
Daniels. He does not play until Monday Night Football next week. I. Well, we'll wait and see. I don't know if you're playing him against the Eagles.
Mike Wright
Just. Is it.
Jason Moore
Time? Oh, for Trey.
Mike Wright
Lance. Never.
Jason Moore
Wrong. Just early on Monday Night.
Andy Holloway
Football. Why not against the Eagles and.
Jason Moore
That'Ll go by the way if you were going to play Herbert. Just don't do it this week anyways. It's the Eagles. Find another plan because don't wait through Monday night. Have a stress free week. Go play Jacoby Brissette. It will always work out for 25 plus even when he looks horrible and the Cardinals will always.
Andy Holloway
Lose. Oh, that's the best part. He is. He is good for 300 yards and two touchdowns and a loss every.
Mike Wright
Week. Hampton, though, your big triumphant return.
Jason Moore
On Monday Night Football against.
Mike Wright
Philly.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Without. Maybe without Herbert. That would be a.
Jason Moore
Bummer. Yeah. Marvin Harrison Jr. Left early with a heel injury. I.
Andy Holloway
Didn'T.
Mike Wright
Yeah. He was.
Andy Holloway
Like. It was weird. It was back in and out of the.
Jason Moore
Game. Are we going to get some more.
Mike Wright
Wilson? He.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Michael Wilson came back to.
Jason Moore
Earth. Yeah. Yeah. According to Twitter, it was our fault Aaron Jones left early with a shoulder injury. Concern is re aggravation of the AC joint sprain from about a month ago. That'd be bad. I mean this would be. Jordan Mason. You're back on a team that can't move the.
Mike Wright
Football. Yeah. Mason will I'm sure be on the.
Jason Moore
Show. I feel like we could spend the entire show talk in Minnesota if we wanted.
Mike Wright
To. Oh.
Andy Holloway
Man. Only if we wanted to make everyone unhappy.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And throw up their.
Mike Wright
Thanksgiving. Turns out it can get.
Jason Moore
Worse. I don't know. Is this true Kyle, for sure that they both McCarthy and Brosmer have a lower pass rating than if you just if spike the ball on every play. Is that because the turnovers count worse than a spike? So I think if the starter just spiked the ball on snap for the entire game, they'd have a higher passer rating than Brosman and.
Mike Wright
McCarthy. I've seen that. I mean passer rating is just.
Jason Moore
Weird. Well, it's still crazy. Parker Washington left Early with a hip injury. Brian Thomas Jr. Returned. Anyways, the Parker Washington window is probably closed. Dylan Sampson left early with a calf injury for the Browns. And we had. We had a period of the Rams game. Kyron was out and Corum was dominant, looking great. And then Kyron came back to steal a touchdown from him at the end of a drive where Cora moved the football. Also, Kyren is on Papa Josh's.
Andy Holloway
Team.
Jason Moore
Oh. So something to watch. You guys should keep an eye on the.
Andy Holloway
Injuries. He's. He's fine. Woody Marks had a scare as well. Left, went to the locker room with a foot injury, came back and played fine. So I don't think that those are really things that will keep either player out this.
Jason Moore
Week. All right, that was. Oh, yeah. And Aaron Rodgers, the nose, wrist and being old, all those.
Andy Holloway
Things. What, what was my hope for? You know, I love that they'd.
Jason Moore
Missed the playoffs with Rogers for the first.
Andy Holloway
Time. For the first time that this would. This in Mike Tomlin's career. When they get Aaron Rodgers, it's going to cause him to not be above 500. And right now they're sitting at.
Jason Moore
500. There's a screenshot and amazing. A bunch of people are posting it. It's the best tweet I've seen in a long time. It's just Rogers miserable on the sideline with a busted nose and a bandage on it. And it says, Aaron Rodgers looks like he just tried to rob Kevin McAllister's.
Mike Wright
House. And he.
Jason Moore
Does. He looks just like he fell into trap. He's the Wet Bandit. Oh, the Wet.
Mike Wright
Bandit. Aaron Rodgers. The AF north is. Dude, it's going to be a wild finish because you have. The Ravens are leading the.
Jason Moore
Division. They're both six and six with the.
Mike Wright
Steelers. Yes. And then the Bengals, who I thought were eliminated a month ago, are technically two games out. And they play Baltimore in two weeks. Like there. There is a.
Andy Holloway
Path. The entire. The entire NFL playoff schedule is wild. You had the Colts drop down. You know, they were number one in the NFL and now they're not even leading their division. Jacksonville took that. You've got the number one seed, Bears, where next week, if they.
Jason Moore
Lose. Say that.
Andy Holloway
Again. The number one seed Bears, if they lose to the packers, they become the seven.
Jason Moore
Seed. I mean, from one to.
Andy Holloway
Seven. Yeah. I mean, this, this NFL season, I think, has been really awesome with who is fighting for which.
Jason Moore
Spots. And you had the big upset this week in Carolina over to the Rams in an impressive way. I mean, they're seven and.
Andy Holloway
Six.
Jason Moore
Yeah. The only consistent thing we have is the Cardinals sucking. Oh, yeah, that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote Today at progressive.com, progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll hit the.
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Jason Moore
Lowe's. You guys ready to talk.
Andy Holloway
Studs?
Jason Moore
Yeah. Top five scorers at the quarterback position this week. Patty Mahomes and Jordan. Love the top two.
Mike Wright
Spots. Thanksgiving was awesome.
Jason Moore
Football. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Awesome. I know there was a. There was some major duds, including Zay Flowers, who was negative in our.
Jason Moore
Scoring. Did you play.
Andy Holloway
Him? Yeah, he had like a 40 yard.
Mike Wright
Touchdown. Yeah, he had a 40 yard touchdown that got called back because of OPI, which.
Jason Moore
Was. Oh, and they took some points away for.
Mike Wright
Opi. No, but I'm saying that like that would. That one catch is. You're like, oh, that's 10 plus points for Zay Flowers.
Andy Holloway
Instead. No Sunday football. I feel like Sunday.
Mike Wright
Stunk. The morning was very.
Andy Holloway
Low. Thursday siphoned off all the great.
Jason Moore
Football well, the Mahomes love starts were great. The game last night was insane.
Andy Holloway
Insane. Marcus.
Jason Moore
Fun. Mariota was number three on the.
Andy Holloway
Week. And.
Mike Wright
Mariota. Yes. I.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Tah. It was sure. If there was just the T.
Mike Wright
Was there something about a pronunciation update? I am.
Andy Holloway
Not. Collinsworth was hitting that. Oh, man. I mean, that is.
Mike Wright
Mariota. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Mari. Marcus Mariota a problem because we've already had Maria.
Mike Wright
To. From the.
Jason Moore
Commissioner. The commissioner. But nevertheless, number three on the week. Bryce Young back in the top five after a very disappearing act situation last week. But two weeks out of the last three, Bryce Young getting it done. Making big plays in this game against the best defense in football or one of the best with the Rams. And then Trevor Lawrence at 21 points. It was an on week for the Jacksonville.
Andy Holloway
Jaguars. They could have done more. It was kind of a shame because they hopped out to such an early lead. Jacksonville just. Tennessee couldn't do anything against them and it was like the game was over in the blink of an.
Mike Wright
Eye. I mean, Jacoby has been a very good addition for that.
Jason Moore
Team. We don't have a regret of the week segment, but if we did, it would be me insisting on playing the Browns defense and dropping. I dropped Jacksonville to stay with the.
Andy Holloway
Browns. They were great. But did anyone pick them.
Jason Moore
Up? My.
Andy Holloway
Opponent. Oh, he played them against.
Jason Moore
You? Yeah. 15 to 2.
Andy Holloway
Difference.
Jason Moore
So. So. And I had signed Jacksonville a week ahead for this matchup and talked myself into. Especially with the weather in the San Francisco game. And then the Browns defense were. They were handed some turd situations like the. We stopped them. They kick off, they muff the punt and it's a 20 yard field for San Francisco. Those hurt. Who else had a big game? We had Taylor performances.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. You know, was in consideration for a streaming option. And he had. He had a pretty good.
Mike Wright
Game. He.
Jason Moore
Did. This is us talking you out of.
Andy Holloway
It.
Jason Moore
Yeah. You want us to talk about. You had the gut feeling about to Rod. You did and he got it done and they won. Atlanta also feels pretty bad to be Atlanta right now. They're in the Arizona conversation right.
Andy Holloway
Now. Yeah. Where you just need to take everyone that works for the organization and say you are no longer allowed in the.
Jason Moore
Building. There are teams in which you need to do the. You know when you got like bedbugs in the house, you got to tint it and fumigate and everything inside dies.
Andy Holloway
Respectfully. Respectfully.
Jason Moore
Dies. Respectfully died. So you can start with a calm sleep. A calm. Those everlasting.
Andy Holloway
Sleep. Those bedbugs, they just go.
Mike Wright
99. Yes, they will fix it with their incredibly high draft pick for next year. Right.
Jason Moore
Kyle? Oh, they don't have a pick, do.
Mike Wright
They? I mean, their pick is paying off of this.
Andy Holloway
Year. Not.
Jason Moore
Cool. Kyle's not a.
Andy Holloway
Fan. Who has their.
Mike Wright
Pick? I don't even.
Jason Moore
Remember. Kyle, why don't you tell us your.
Andy Holloway
Situation? The.
Jason Moore
Rams. The.
Mike Wright
Rams. Oh, come.
Jason Moore
On. The Rams have your pick. The Rams are going to win the super bowl and have your pick. You just lost to the.
Mike Wright
Jets. Oh.
Jason Moore
Man. Dak. Good week for Dak. He is, I believe, been a top 10 quarterback all but two weeks in the last.
Mike Wright
10. That seems.
Jason Moore
Right. I think that's right. He was a start of the year as well. And then Jacoby Brissette, I mean, he had like four points in the first half. It didn't matter. It's now seven straight top 12 finishes for Jacoby. I mean, I want people to understand, since the Cardinals made him the starting quarterback, only Josh Allen has more fantasy points than Jacoby.
Mike Wright
Brissette. It's.
Jason Moore
Wild. So. And you got Harrison back. That helped the numbers a little bit. But Even without Harrison, McBride is just a machine with him. Top five running back scores of the week. Welcome back to the upper tier. Bijan Robinson, he was allowed to.
Andy Holloway
Get a touchdown this.
Jason Moore
Week.
Mike Wright
Permitted? Yeah, just one. Well, to be fair, multiple they gave. They did give him.
Andy Holloway
The. They gave him the first shot. He didn't get it. And then Algier got the second.
Mike Wright
One. He would have got in on the second.
Jason Moore
One. DeAndre Swift with a huge week for Chicago. They could not stop. They cannot be stopped in the running game. Kamani Vidal back up at 20. What does that change the rule with his red light, green light situation? Did we determine the buy? The buy is.
Mike Wright
Omitted. Yeah, the buy was.
Jason Moore
Omitted. Oh, my gosh. It's so true. 49, 8, 35, 7, 45, 8, 56.
Andy Holloway
3. Bench them. And.
Jason Moore
Now. So the buy is just irrelevant.
Mike Wright
Now. Monday against the.
Jason Moore
Eagles. Oh.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. He'll have a horrible with potentially with.
Mike Wright
Hampton.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Wow.
Andy Holloway
Okay. Thank you for your.
Mike Wright
Service. Yeah, I mean, Vidal has. I think he. He's interesting in terms of like, has he really played himself into being the insurance running.
Jason Moore
Back? Oh, for.
Mike Wright
Sure. For. For the Chargers, for the.
Jason Moore
Charger. I think they have a tremendous amount of trust with him. Yeah. You had both DeAndre Swift and Manon Guy have huge weeks, by the.
Mike Wright
Way.
Jason Moore
Yes. And then RJ Harvey with 19.7, Devon HN got the two studies. Chuba Hubbard. Yeah, it's number.
Andy Holloway
Five. It's a how are you feeling about that situation, Mike? The Chuba.
Jason Moore
Rico. 17 carries for Chuba, 18 for.
Andy Holloway
Rico. Sorry.
Mike Wright
Mike. It's going to be. It's a timeshare hot hand and Chuba was playing great. Not that Rico was playing poorly, but Chuba got out to the hot start. Yeah, he was already looking good. So they kind of. I feel like they kept with him more than Rico, but in terms of like opportunities, it's like Rico had one more opportunity than.
Andy Holloway
Chuba. Yeah, snap wise, it was basically 60, 40, 59% of the snaps for Chuba, 42% for.
Jason Moore
Rico. Okay. Derek Henry back into the end zone because it's snowing. And then James Cook, 144 yards rushing, didn't get into the end.
Mike Wright
Zone. He's just. He's so.
Jason Moore
Good. I mean, he is a workhorse. 32 carries he.
Mike Wright
Night. He's getting like this season, he has that mojo of every time James Cook gets the ball. I'm like, oh, here's 10 yards. It's going to happen. It's like, you know, when you're watching Gibbs, you just. You feel like every single touch is going to be to the end zone. He looks that good right.
Jason Moore
Now. And a credit. I mean, I think we've said it before, but like when he was holding out for the contract, it was kind of under the idea that he is this and he is.
Mike Wright
This.
Andy Holloway
Right?
Jason Moore
Yeah. And we thought maybe he wasn't.
Andy Holloway
This. He has nine games this season inside the top 10 at the running back on the week. He's. He has. You know, if you have him, you're shockingly high in the.
Mike Wright
Standings.
Jason Moore
Yeah. A.J. brown, 30 points, Rashi Rice, 25. That'll work. A.J. brown, another great week, another great loss with a bunch of production. That's the whole juxtaposition of the thing. They were winning a bunch of games without him. They start feeding him. They've lost two in a.
Mike Wright
Row. I think it's just the. They have to feed him because they're.
Andy Holloway
Losing. Right? Yeah, that. That is the thing. It's. It's like when the announcers always.
Mike Wright
Bring up 30 plus.
Andy Holloway
Carries. Yeah. They all. They go undefeated. Whenever they've carried the ball more than 40 times in a game, it's like, that's not why. It's the reason why they got the.
Mike Wright
Carries. So, yeah, we got it upside.
Andy Holloway
Down. When the Eagles are down, they've got to throw. And then A.J. brown is better. When the Eagles are dominating an opponent, they don't need to throw and A.J. brown does worse. It's. You want the Eagles to play against teams that could score on them. So this next week, Chargers. Okay. If Herbert is back and okay then the playoffs. The Raiders. Oh, the Commanders. Maybe championship week with the Bills. That's.
Mike Wright
Good.
Jason Moore
Okay. Don Tavian Wicks at number three on the week. Jameson Williams at 4. CD Lamb at 5. Don Tavian Wicks the. The target share. It's been pretty good. 29, 8, 19.
Andy Holloway
25. I mean Wicks has always been someone that we've. He is awesome. He's a very talented guy. Yeah. So good at getting open. We've just said he needs to learn how to catch and if he's catching the targets that, I mean he's. He could be very good for. For fantasy. But Jameson Williams is really the. The story right now. The my guy.
Jason Moore
Redemption. Son of a.
Andy Holloway
Gun. I mean he, he has been incredible. Amon RA is out. This is three out of the last four weeks where he's top.
Mike Wright
Ten. Oh my.
Jason Moore
Gosh. Such a good.
Andy Holloway
Looking.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Game log minus the.
Andy Holloway
Goose. It's funny because if you take. You look at like they have two gooses. Quentin Johnston has like the exact opposite or Rome. Rome is even a better example where the exact opposite of Jamo. Rome got out to such a hot start on the season. The first month of the season, he was the. Rome was the wide receiver. 3. And you just go, it's here, it's happened. The breakout. It's.
Mike Wright
Done. Touchdown aggression hit.
Andy Holloway
Nasty. Yeah. And then it's like, oh, and he stinks. But you don't view him as negatively on the season as you do Jameson Williams who's just as good or not, if not.
Jason Moore
Better. So in the last five weeks, Jameson Williams in points per game with a goose number three. So JSN number one, Devonte Adams, who can't stop.
Andy Holloway
Scoring. Can't.
Mike Wright
Stop. It's.
Jason Moore
Crazy. Scoring. Who has eight touchdowns in the last five weeks. And then Jamo is number three ahead of Pickens and Collins and London and Puka and Rice on the.
Andy Holloway
Season. I just looked it up. Jameson Williams is ahead of Roma Dunes a now.
Mike Wright
On. Yeah, it makes.
Jason Moore
Sense. I can't just be happy with any of it though. Because if you do, if I show just a sign of optimism, he'll put me in my.
Andy Holloway
Place. Yeah, he'll goose. He'll goose.
Jason Moore
You. He'll goose the heck out of.
Mike Wright
Me. And then Christian Watson. The last two weeks is all.
Jason Moore
33. Start of the week.
Mike Wright
33%. 36% on the target share.
Jason Moore
So. Yeah. And you always have the huge play. They're going to take their shots every.
Mike Wright
Game. If you're getting it's like Jameson Williams now with Almond raw out of like if you're going to see a high 20%, even a 30% target share and you can hit a home run like that's. That's wild for.
Jason Moore
Fantasy. Yeah. It's really hard to go four quarters with a target share like that and hold a big play down. You normally get one. CD Lamb seven for one 12. That was.
Andy Holloway
Nice.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Good to see Pickens 13 targets to Lamb's nine. They are true. Wide receiver one, wide receiver.
Mike Wright
One.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Devonte Adams with two more touchdowns. He has 15 targets inside the five yard line. Nine have been touchdowns. He is a huge reason why Stafford's an MVP consideration. Just because you know, this was Kyren's domain permanently. And now the. The number one option is what's the coverage on Adams? If it's anything that we like at all, that's our first.
Andy Holloway
Choice. Yeah. If you can design one on one coverage for Adams, it's like an 80% that that's a touchdown. You just go to him. He has the most targets inside the five of any player since targets became a.
Mike Wright
Stat. Oh my.
Andy Holloway
Gosh. And what weaker we. We've still got a lot of stats here. Yes. Yes. Fifteen. I mean that's. That's.
Jason Moore
Outrageous. Yeah. It's amazing. Devon Vale, eight targets, eight for 93 and a.
Andy Holloway
Two. He was making me so angry because it wasn't Olave. Yes. And Olave, you dropped a game winning 35 yard touchdown. It just right through your.
Mike Wright
Hands. Well, I don't.
Jason Moore
Know. Did.
Mike Wright
He. Is it a drop if it just goes.
Andy Holloway
Swish? That's true. It was more like a basket. Yeah, that's exactly what it was. It was like he held a.
Jason Moore
Basket. I'm going to go watch it.
Mike Wright
Because I my son, when he just.
Andy Holloway
Went right through the.
Mike Wright
Arms. It was a play that a superstar has to make when or just.
Andy Holloway
A NFL wide receiver Bailey would have caught.
Mike Wright
It. That's a hard.
Jason Moore
Catch. Yeah. When it happened my son said this source drop I've ever seen. That's what he.
Andy Holloway
Said. Yeah. It's like he didn't put his.
Jason Moore
Arms together which is part of.
Andy Holloway
Catching.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Terry McClure and looked great last night against Denver. 14 targets, 7 for 96. Maybe Terry, if he's. If you look on your bench you're like oh yeah, I still got Terry. Maybe he'll matter for these playoffs. Nico. Jacoby.
Mike Wright
Myers. Jacoby Myers.
Jason Moore
Man. And then doubting Alec Pierce proved a mistake this week. Four for 78 and a.
Mike Wright
Touchdown. The touchdown was a man touchdown too. Yeah, it was a good.
Jason Moore
Catch. Brock Bowers is good at.
Andy Holloway
Football.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Number one score at tight end. Trey McBride, Zach Ertz, Travis Kelsey and Britain strange. The top five.
Andy Holloway
There. Yeah. Britain Strange, I think is these other guys. Obviously, if you've got Kelsey, Bowers, McBride, you're set. You're going to start him every week. But Strange to me is interesting because this is a guy that coming into the season we thought would be important for targets coming. He got injured since he's back from the injury. 5 for 93 and then 3 for 45 and a touchdown. He's been a top five tight end the last two.
Jason Moore
Weeks. Parker Washington now.
Andy Holloway
Hurt. Yeah. So he's very interesting. You got to remember how much they used Evan Ingram last year. And I realized the targets and the yardage weren't great this week. But also it was, it was what I was saying. Like they got out to such a big lead so early and Tennessee couldn't do anything. They stopped passing the ball. They really didn't need to put up any more offensive scoring. So they're not going to play the, you know, next week is the Colts. That to me is a, is a great matchup for Brenton Strange and.
Mike Wright
He won't show up on the fantasy sheet. But guys, that Traylon Burks catch, it must, it must be celebrated. Yeah, that catch was.
Jason Moore
Boss. That's, that's the key part of a story to my grandkids if I'm trailing.
Mike Wright
Burks. Yeah, for.
Jason Moore
Sure. Like I made, I made the NFL. I was a first round pick. Then on Sunday kind of flamed out. And then I got another.
Andy Holloway
Chance. Yeah, watch this.
Jason Moore
Play. Watch this play. That's what I was capable.
Mike Wright
Of. Did they say it was his? Yeah. And he's on the Commanders. Every one of you. That was that his second touchdown of his.
Andy Holloway
Career? I want to say it's his.
Jason Moore
Third. Do you know how many shots they took at him in which he was so not open the rest of the game? I was shocked how many times they took downfield.
Andy Holloway
Shots. I am still rostering him in Dynasty. No, that.
Jason Moore
Was. No about.
Andy Holloway
That. That was.
Mike Wright
His. That guy. Did you see that.
Andy Holloway
Catch? That was his second career touchdown. Well, receiving touchdown. He has a rushing.
Jason Moore
Touchdown. I mean, I think it just proves that the Titans were right. That trade was worth it. Who'd they give up.
Andy Holloway
Again? A.J. brown. Okay, okay. And they replaced.
Jason Moore
Him. That was a, that was just a pick.
Andy Holloway
Trade. It was a one for one. It was. It was. We're not going to pay A.J. brown like a wide receiver one when we can trade him for a pick that becomes the next AJ Brown and Traylon.
Mike Wright
Burks. It was one for one. And then we got the. We got that. The shot of Variable being so angry. So.
Jason Moore
Angry. He knew. All right, let's go ahead and talk. Disappointing performances for week.
Andy Holloway
13. Pooped in his big boy.
Jason Moore
Pants. There are. There are some conversations to be.
Andy Holloway
Had. Oh.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Starting with the litmus test. We said it before the week that if Lamar Jackson at home against Cincinnati gives you a.
Andy Holloway
Dud, you need to sit him down. I mean, that is for the.
Mike Wright
Playoffs.
Jason Moore
Oh, we don't hit the panic.
Mike Wright
Alarm. The reddest light I've ever.
Jason Moore
Seen. Is it? Yeah. Your rods and cones were all.
Mike Wright
Messed up that I almost went full seizure right.
Andy Holloway
There.
Mike Wright
Guys. What was that? That seems so.
Jason Moore
Different. Don't want to go.
Andy Holloway
Half.
Mike Wright
Really?
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Try it again.
Mike Wright
Andy.
Andy Holloway
No.
Mike Wright
No. I don't know. This light up in the corner is hitting me.
Jason Moore
Different. He's not.
Andy Holloway
Wrong. I did change it. Very.
Jason Moore
Observant. Is that redder than ever? It. It's.
Andy Holloway
Redder. One light that points right at Mike.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I felt.
Jason Moore
Like. It felt like I was in a.
Andy Holloway
Submarine. It broke and I had to.
Jason Moore
Rebuild it, so it's.
Mike Wright
Okay. I have a.
Jason Moore
Kramer. Yeah. Yeah. My rods and my cones are all messed up. Lamar Jackson 17 for 32. Like.
Mike Wright
246. Whatever the toe injury or that he's dealing with, it's. It is affecting.
Jason Moore
Him. This is the kind of game where the season ends and then, like, Lamar's having surgery tomorrow, and I don't know what's going on. Six point, 7.7 points. Your prescription for the playoffs for Lamar Jackson is.
Andy Holloway
What? I think you need to bench him until he. Until he shows something better. Put it this way. The last three weeks while he's been hurt and struggling with his injuries, who has more fantasy points? Oh, Lamar Jackson or Shador.
Mike Wright
Sanders? No.
Jason Moore
Way. Okay.
Andy Holloway
Brother. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Okay. No.
Andy Holloway
Way.
Mike Wright
Yeah. No.
Andy Holloway
Way. That's a real problem. Shador Sanders is the answer. And so it's like, would you play? I mean, obviously Lamar has. Is an mvp. Amazing, talented guy who can go out there and win a championship for you. And I still think that that's in the range of outcomes. He gets healthier in the next couple of weeks when the fantasy playoffs come, but I feel like you have to wait and see it happen before you can't go out and win in the playoffs. There's going to be seven points from your quarterback. If you put seven points up from your quarterback in the playoffs against other good teams, you, you're probably out of the.
Mike Wright
Playoffs. But I mean there's going to be people who have to win be they will be winning in this week with.
Jason Moore
Lamar. Yeah. And you play, you play somebody.
Mike Wright
Else.
Jason Moore
It's. That is you can't go down with this. This is going to be this. We're going to have the same conversation about Justin Jefferson in a.
Mike Wright
Minute. Jefferson I think is a much easier bench. But I do not envy anyone who has to make that Lamar.
Jason Moore
Decision. This was the test for me of guaranteed benching and he put up seven.
Andy Holloway
Points.
Mike Wright
Yeah. The win and in situation and the potential, I will say that Lamar Jackson goes nuclear on your bench is if that makes people quit fantasy.
Jason Moore
Football. If Isaiah likely doesn't.
Mike Wright
Fumble.
Jason Moore
Right. That's a big touchdown.
Mike Wright
Pass. Yes. And it's not say Flowers had a touchdown as.
Jason Moore
Well. Jason said it. It's not like it can't go right. It's. This is three in a row. This is ice cold. This is something you're not running the football right. I mean that's the baseline that you're normally guaranteed 10 to 15 on running.
Andy Holloway
Alone. The baseline for Lamar Jackson that makes him so special is that he is going out there on a season and he's rushing for 700 to 1,000 rushing yards. That's. That's his, that's his season.
Jason Moore
Totals. Not the.
Andy Holloway
272. He's on pace for exactly 272 rushing yards. That's. I mean that's not even.
Jason Moore
Remotely. Alex Smith could pass.
Andy Holloway
That. Yeah. For.
Jason Moore
Sure. It's awful. And then, you know, a lot of blame goes to the offensive coordinator. But holy crap. Jalen hurts was not good in this game. Time after time, the throws were just off 19 for.
Andy Holloway
34.
Jason Moore
Sorry. I don't know what's worse. Jason singing or Papa Josh being so happy he did. I don't know. Jalen hurts. Let's put it this way. Three of the last four weeks he's been outside the top 12 for your. For your quarterback. So this is not Lamar Jackson level of. Of let you down. But this is also not when you weak type of.
Andy Holloway
Stuff. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not really too worried about Jalen Hurts. He, he's still able to run the ball. He's not banged up like Lamar. You're going to have tush push touchdown opportunities whenever they're on the one yard Line is just a bad game and a bad run. But while I different than he.
Jason Moore
Used to be in terms of. Yeah, like the rushing yardage is the lowest of his.
Andy Holloway
Career. Yeah, he, he runs and I hate to say this, but he has a lot more cowardice than he used to. Maybe wisdom, we'll call it.
Mike Wright
Wisdom. Okay, there we.
Jason Moore
Go. Big difference between those words.
Andy Holloway
Man.
Jason Moore
Yeah. One is pretty.
Andy Holloway
Bad. I think in his mind he's being smarter and in my mind being.
Jason Moore
Weak. So his average, just to give you perspective over the last four years. So it's a four year sample, not counting this year. He's averaging 700 rushing yards on the year. He's on pace for 460 right now. So that's a pretty big change in the, you know, the floor, I guess. Yeah, four hertz. He's still the quarterback. Four on the year. But his consistency level. Do you know what it.
Andy Holloway
Is? I would guess, I would guess.
Jason Moore
A, B. Yeah, It's C. It's 47% of games over 20. He's now below 50, 50 over 20. So it's just something to pay attention to because it's on him. Like, I mean, there was a slant route to devonte Smith that he.
Andy Holloway
Just missed the wide open Dallas. God, there was literally in the middle of the field with no one on him for a walk in touchdown. I mean, he could have underhand thrown it 30 yards and let defenders try to catch up and he would have got a.
Mike Wright
Touchdown. So when you no longer have the dog, you're just, you're.
Andy Holloway
Wise. Yeah, yeah, he's. I mean, because it's, it's really, it's a choice. It's like. And if you look at the way Josh Allen plays. Josh Allen, he will go after every extra yard he can get. He is still, he still runs unwise and. Well, he's too.
Mike Wright
Much. Allen has like £25 on.
Jason Moore
Him. Yeah, I mean, Cam Newton, Josh Allen is. They're the same thing. Yeah, I don't think this is. I just think everything is off right now with Philly's offense. I mean, you can look, you can start with Saquon and the ability to run the football on big runs. You and just point to Lane Johnson. I mean, Lane Johnson's. When they don't have him. Have you seen their record? I mean, their record is sub 500. So Josh Allen did have a down.
Andy Holloway
Week. That was just the running game destroying the Steelers. I mean, when didn't they run for like 300 yards or something?
Mike Wright
Insane. James Cook was what, 30 carries.
Jason Moore
32. 32. And Matthew Stafford, down week as well, had the two turnovers, which one was returned for a touchdown. They end up losing basically because of those turnovers. Caleb Williams, he's had six top 10 weeks, six QB 20 or worse, and never finishes in the.
Mike Wright
Middle. Caleb Williams on the season is completing 58% of his passes. Like, I knew it was rough, especially this, this last six weeks or so. I didn't realize it was that bad. 58%. That's not.
Jason Moore
Acceptable. That's not.
Andy Holloway
Good. You're not going to win with that. I think they, you know, it's probably because he's targeting Rome so.
Mike Wright
Much. Got to go to Mr. Loveland. Love.
Andy Holloway
Land. Rome is under 50% on his targets, on his.
Mike Wright
Catches. Catch percent.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I think it's because Caleb, when he snaps, it sprints full.
Mike Wright
Speed. Oh, crap, oh.
Andy Holloway
Crap. Oh.
Jason Moore
Crap. In a diagonal pattern and then uses rocket arm to just chuck it like everyone at.
Mike Wright
Home. Next time you watch the Bears play, just start doing that in your head after every every.
Andy Holloway
Snap. When he gets the ball and he drops back in the pocket to make those sounds, say it. Give his inner monologue a voice. And it is so much fun to.
Jason Moore
Watch. Caleb, PPR fantasy tips tweeted this out. He said Rome. Rome only has two drop passes on the year. Only 46 of the 84 targets have been catchable for Roma.
Andy Holloway
Dunes. Yeah, I mean.
Jason Moore
He. So that's 55. 45. Uncatchable.
Andy Holloway
Uncatchable. Rome had that route that he cooked. The defender got wide open for a touchdown. Caleb found him late in the play and missed him. Threw it where he couldn't catch.
Jason Moore
It. Yeah, into the dirt. All right, we'll take a break. We'll come back with running.
Mike Wright
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Andy Holloway
20.
Jason Moore
Sheesh. On the year, he's the running back. What? Guess it. Guess the number.
Mike Wright
20. Oh, you're going that. I was going to say like.
Jason Moore
17, 16 and one game of 17 + fantasy points on the year. So, I mean, he had nine last year that like.
Andy Holloway
That. He is on pace. He's played the whole season, 12 games played. He's their workhorse, getting everything. And he is on pace for 10, 48 yards. That's it. Just barely getting to 1,000 yards. And this is a guy who last year, if they didn't bench him in week 18, probably would have broken the all time rushing record. It's, it's not been the same. I don't think it's going to get back to last year. You probably don't have Lane Johnson for any of the our purposes rest of the fantasy season left. So I don't know. You're just going to have to keep playing him. But you aren't going to win a championship because of him.
Jason Moore
Right? Yeah. Travis etn, Ash and Genti, the running backs for the Chiefs, Kenneth Gainwell. Any major concerns with anybody from that group like.
Mike Wright
Genti? I mean Genti, it is what it is. You're just, you're trying to take PPR points at the this point. The schedule for Genti is about as brutal as you can get. Denver at Philly at Houston, I mean you're, you better be praying for some pass interference in the end.
Jason Moore
Zone. Yeah. Kenneth Gainwell did not get it.
Mike Wright
Going. No. Gainwell was the. The lack of targets for Gainwell in a game you're losing multiple touchdowns was odd. The Rogers probably should not have.
Jason Moore
Played. Did Rogers come back? Yeah, after the injury he.
Mike Wright
Shouldn'T. He should not have played. I mean, well, I guess if you're the man of mystery came in master of disguise and he's just, he's not good.
Jason Moore
Either. Jackson, Smith and Jigba, four targets, two for 23. There was, you know, some comments about what happened. Basically, you know, Sam Darnold just made the best decisions for the team. Flores was doing stuff to take away jsn. No one's really been able to take away jsn. But in this game they handled Minnesota quite.
Andy Holloway
Easily. Minnesota came knowing if we win this game, which is an important game for us, it will be our defense. Their defense.
Mike Wright
Played. Defense played.
Andy Holloway
Great. Played great despite, you know, by the end of the game they gave up a lot of points because of the situation of the game. But their defense was really, really, really good. And JSN had a down week and that will be his final down week of the.
Jason Moore
Season. His previous down week was 79 receiving yards, which is wild. And then Justin Jefferson, I mean that's pretty loud. That's pretty loud. Justin Jefferson, two catches for four yards. I think a goose might have felt.
Mike Wright
Better. Yeah, a little bit more cathartic. Those are two for fours that you didn't win because you had two for.
Jason Moore
Four. Two for four is just a slap in the.
Mike Wright
Face. It really.
Jason Moore
Is. You want to catch? Check this.
Mike Wright
Out. Fine. Fine.
Jason Moore
Man. I mean, goodness gracious. He was averaging 12.9 fantasy points per game with Carson. Wentz starts, which. That's good. Not great. Right? That's not. That's not wide receiver one. That's just outside of it. In the seven starts with Brosmer and McCarthy, he's averaging 8.4. I mean, ew. And look, this was a guy who 6 weeks ago we said, boy, their schedule is great for pass catchers. I mean, this is full. We talked about it at length last week. This is full deletion of Justin Jefferson. Yeah, this is what we talked about happened with a handful of other elite hall of Fame wide receivers in the past, from Larry Fitzgerald to Steve Smith to DeAndre Hopkins, even Calvin Johnson. They get a year like this. He didn't talk to the media afterwards. I don't blame him. I don't even know where you go. I mean, at this point, there is one purpose for the Minnesota season. 1. And it is the maximum amount of games for J.J. mcCarthy to figure out how to be a quarterback that is not a third string arena football.
Mike Wright
Quarterback. Yeah. Unfortunately, that is what has. That's the only thing that Minnesota could play for.
Jason Moore
Now. And I've got a tip. I've got actually some.
Mike Wright
Tips. For.
Jason Moore
Who? For JJ McCarthy. It's a simple one. It's the Joe Flacco plan. Throw the ball to Justin Jefferson on every.
Mike Wright
Play. Every.
Andy Holloway
Play. That's good advice, man. That's really good.
Jason Moore
Advice. I promise it will work out the best of all your.
Andy Holloway
Throws. They did. They did target him six times. You might see the 4 yards and think they didn't, but he caught 33% of his passes in the last five weeks. Who has more.
Mike Wright
Points? Oh.
Andy Holloway
No. Justin.
Mike Wright
Jefferson. Or should do.
Jason Moore
Or. That's what I thought you were going to.
Andy Holloway
Say. Or Don Tavian.
Mike Wright
Wicks. Oh, well, I mean, that one doesn't even surprise.
Jason Moore
Me.
Andy Holloway
Okay. Greg Dorch.
Jason Moore
Okay. Yeah. Okay. Keep.
Andy Holloway
Going. Greg Dorch has more.
Jason Moore
Yoshivas. There you.
Andy Holloway
Go. Jalen Coker. Yeah, Jalen's behind.
Jason Moore
Him.
Mike Wright
The. The good news for McCarthy is I can't imagine that anyone in Minnesota will be clamoring to like, hey, well, we got to see what Max has. Put him in the game. We got to see what the. The backup has nothing for you. He has nothing to offer you. You just put McCarthy in, you take all the lumps. It's going to be brutal and painful, but it's the only path.
Andy Holloway
Forward. Yeah, I think you really, genuinely need to put the entire, like, from here on out, when you get nine back on the field, you really need to make it a passing game plan. Like, yes, you need to go out there not trying to protect or hide.
Mike Wright
9.
Andy Holloway
Nope. You need to go out there and say, okay, we're a pass first team. Now you're going to go out there, you're going to sling it 35, 45 times a game and figure this crap.
Jason Moore
Out. Yeah. And you need for your confidence having a 350 yard game. I don't care if you throw 50%.
Andy Holloway
Passing.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Have a 300 yard game. Get some confidence and give yourself a shot at not wasting the pick entirely. Because, you know, I was worried that any injury or anything taking him off the field. Now you don't go into the offseason with the current JJ McCarthy and he's your plan. So your only way for him to be part of your plan to compete, because that's the best case scenario is that he'll be in a competition that's his best case with somebody that they sign. By the way, there's another conversation to be had about Zay Flowers, because Zay Flower don't look at the game log, you'll throw up. If you look at the game log for the year he is now, he's averaging fewer points per game each year since his rookie season, 10.5 to 10.1 to 9.5. His consistency is a D 29% of the time. He's over 10 and a half.
Andy Holloway
Points. Do you remember our conversations about Lamar.
Jason Moore
Jackson?
Andy Holloway
Yes. Yeah, that's part of, the, part of the issue here is the. You've got Zay Flowers as the wide receiver one for the Baltimore Ravens and that's usually an awesome thing. That's a great offense. They're not really a good offense right.
Jason Moore
Now. Well, they have. Bateman's been out, right? Or did he come back? He came back in week 13, I think. And did he play in week.
Andy Holloway
14? It's.
Jason Moore
Not. Sorry.
Mike Wright
No. 13.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So he did come.
Mike Wright
Back.
Jason Moore
Yes. He played the full game because he had missed a couple weeks. Ameca Buka, eight targets, four for 42 and a brutal.
Andy Holloway
Drop. He's. We were talking about.
Jason Moore
Him. Don't tell me what you.
Andy Holloway
Said. Well, it was, it was one.
Mike Wright
Of those things we don't say on this.
Andy Holloway
Podcast. Yeah, I mean, he got off to such a hot start as a rookie that you just immediately said superstar. Unbelievable. Going to be a generational talent, really. If you look, if you take those, if you take those first five weeks out where he had touchdowns like crazy, he has been not start worthy like at all. I mean, you're talking about from that point on he's averaging seven fantasy points. He would be on a 17 game pace in his last seven games of 840.
Jason Moore
Yards. I'm looking at it. It's terrible. And 153.
Andy Holloway
Targets. Yeah. And honestly, it's weird now, he did get hurt too. He got banged up hamstring in.
Jason Moore
Week seven and we didn't know how much that.
Andy Holloway
Mattered. I feel like he's had a handful of bad drops which. He's got great.
Jason Moore
Hands. His catch percentage is insane. His, when you started the year, he was catching.
Andy Holloway
Everything.
Jason Moore
Everything. And the last what, six weeks? 42% catch.
Andy Holloway
Rate.
Jason Moore
Yikes. So you know it's not working. No, I'd rather have him than Rome for.
Mike Wright
Fantasy. I mean right now what's, what's Mike Evans status like? If we get him on the field, are we going to see better?
Jason Moore
Igbuka? I think Godwin's acclimation is going.
Mike Wright
To be good for a buca because.
Jason Moore
Godwin really ramped up this.
Mike Wright
Week. Yeah, he had a solid.
Jason Moore
Game. Dropped the easiest touchdown I've ever.
Mike Wright
Seen. You thought that was easy, brother? It was one of those ones where there's like hands in the way.
Jason Moore
Though. No, no.
Mike Wright
Excuses.
Jason Moore
Okay. Clean into the.
Mike Wright
Bread. He should have caught.
Jason Moore
It. Yeah, I just go watch it again. It's no Olave, don't get me wrong. DK Metcalf, does he.
Andy Holloway
Suck? Yeah. Next.
Jason Moore
Question. Brian Thomas Jr. Does he.
Mike Wright
Suck?
Jason Moore
Yeah. Let's play a game of does he.
Mike Wright
Suck? I was still laughing at DK Metcalf. I'm sorry, I just want all to join.
Jason Moore
Me. Just laugh a couple more.
Mike Wright
Times. There it.
Jason Moore
Is. DK Metcalf, who's on your team.
Mike Wright
Right?
Andy Holloway
Metcalf. He's on the.
Jason Moore
Bench.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I just thought the irony of him being on your team and the laughter is.
Andy Holloway
Great. DK, Mike.
Jason Moore
Caf. Brian Thomas Jr. 2 for 28. This is a game where Jacoby Myers and Britain Strange both had big games. Does Brian Thomas Jr.
Mike Wright
Suck? No, no, no, no. He's just not as good.
Jason Moore
As. Is he trying it on pretty. Jalen Waddle, 3 for 40. Devonte Smith 5 for 48. Michael Wilson, 3 for 36. And then. For goodness sakes. Can I talk you out of Ricky Pearsall? Yeah, by.
Andy Holloway
Now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, Mike talked me out of Ricky Pearsall last week when he brought up the. Something we should have seen earlier. But the kind of breakout games early in this season for Ricky Piersol.
Jason Moore
Were. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Skittle. It was the Abu effect. No, Jennings, where it's Pearsall's the first round pick. This is what he was supposed to be driving. When you feel like you're seeing it happen, you do want to buy in. Because honestly, when you see those things happen with young players, buying in as fast as you can works more than it.
Jason Moore
Does. No, it does. It was just two games, though. That's the hard part. We just didn't see a.
Andy Holloway
Lot. And those games were minus Jennings. And then the one game that Jennings was there early in the season, Pierce all didn't have a good game and Jennings did. It really. It.
Jason Moore
Really. It's not a really good way to talk about Jennings, but I wish I.
Mike Wright
Could. No, we got.
Jason Moore
It.
Mike Wright
The. If you didn't see the. The.
Andy Holloway
Commentary.
Mike Wright
Who. I don't remember who the player was. Kyle. Forget his name. But there was someone commented.
Jason Moore
About words that Malik.
Andy Holloway
Collins.
Mike Wright
Okay. That. That Jennings. Or topics that. That Jennings chooses to bring up on the field that are. I mean, a lot of stuff gets said on a field, things that you don't mean. I mean, just hurtful, hateful things because you're trying to psych out your opponent. But we all know there's a.
Jason Moore
Line. There's a.
Mike Wright
Line. Even. Even in the grossest mucky muck, there's still a line you don't cross. Apparently, Jennings does cross that.
Jason Moore
Line. Collins said that he thought it was appropriate what happened to him last.
Andy Holloway
Week. And if you. If you don't remember, Jennings was who got punched in the.
Mike Wright
Nards.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And he got punched in the nards due to what he said. Now I don't know what he said. It hasn't been reported what he.
Jason Moore
Said. I.
Andy Holloway
Don'T. I really want to know because what could you say that gets you punched in the nards? And then have other players be like, that dude should have got punched in the.
Jason Moore
Nards. Yeah. He's like, I understand why and I want it.
Andy Holloway
Known. Yeah. He's like, I'm surprised someone hasn't punched him in the.
Jason Moore
Jaw. Yeah. Crazy.
Andy Holloway
Crazy. We got to figure.
Mike Wright
Out. I love that storyline.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Well, think about what would make you punch somebody in the nards. And it probably was one of those.
Andy Holloway
Things. I don't know if words. I mean, I guess maybe.
Mike Wright
It'S. I mean, it's. It's got to be.
Jason Moore
Family. I.
Mike Wright
Hope. Like, you're crossing the line. Talk about people's.
Jason Moore
Families. If that happens, though, and you drop to one knee and punch me in the narrative, that's just funny in and of itself. What did you say? Hi. All right. Arande Gadsden one for 27. You know, it was close to a touchdown. The catch, it was like on the goal line. I don't know what to think about Gadsden in the moment. Jason, any.
Andy Holloway
Thoughts? Yeah, I mean, how are you.
Jason Moore
Going to pick which tight end to start? Because you got Waller back out on the.
Andy Holloway
Field. That's. That's my.
Jason Moore
Pick. You got. Oh, so now you're to.
Andy Holloway
Waller. Yep. I traded for Waller for the playoffs and it's good, but you traded.
Jason Moore
For Gadsden for the.
Andy Holloway
Playoffs. Well, after I lost Waller, I didn't know I was getting Waller back. But yeah, Waller was my original tight end. Bet Mark.
Jason Moore
Andrews. Oh, the guy's also in the.
Andy Holloway
Segment. Correct it. Tight end has been a struggle bus this year. If you didn't. If you didn't get one of those great top guys, it's. It's tough in the streets.
Jason Moore
Man. No, it really is, because chasing is what. Chasing feels the most right thing to do at tight end. And it's not the right thing to do. It just feels like when you put a guy into your lineup that just performed, it feels.
Andy Holloway
Good. Matchups at the tight end position, you know, when. When you are not locked into a McBride of Bowers more than any other position, you really want to play the matchups. You know, Dalton Schultz is a good example where I was like, bench him against Philly, play him against Indy, that they both work. Gadsden now plays Philly, who you're not going to play Gadsden this, this next week. Following that is the Chiefs, who are, I believe, number six against tight.
Jason Moore
Ends. So you've looked into this like a.
Andy Holloway
Professional.
Jason Moore
Yeah. The one thing I'll say about Andrews, who was 4 for 47, is the exploit of the Chiefs tight ends or the Bengals tight end situation. It was still there. Like Isaiah likely was 5 for 95 and almost had a long touchdown catch that he fumbled in the end zone. And 4 for 47 is not the end of the world. He didn't get the touchdown we thought he'd get. But that's. That's 10 for about 130 yards, 140 yards for the tight end position against Cincinnati. It is still quite.
Andy Holloway
Exploitable. Yeah, I mean, I. So I've got right now on my roster, I got Mark Andrews, Gadsden and Waller and I'm looking at the playoff schedule and I'm really trying to find that Cincy matchup. And wouldn't you know it, that's basically. It's the Miami Dolphins and the Baltimore Ravens have The two easiest tight end. Okay, schedules for the playoffs. Both of them get to play Cincinnati in the. In.
Jason Moore
The. Who cares if you can't find a tight end during the year? If you find them during the.
Andy Holloway
Playoff, that's all you need. Well, if you make the playoffs, which Hunter Henry? Hunter the Hunter? Don't you do me.
Jason Moore
Dirty. He was your number.
Andy Holloway
One. He was my start of the week last.
Mike Wright
Week. Championship week for the who plays Cincinnati Arizona. Trey McBride. Championship week. We are lined up, Mr. McBride. We are lined.
Jason Moore
Up. Now. Will that be Kyler, though?
Andy Holloway
Wow. I don't even think that.
Mike Wright
Matters. Yeah, don't. No, it.
Andy Holloway
Matters. Well, yeah, okay. Yeah.
Jason Moore
We. Have you seen these.
Andy Holloway
Numbers?
Mike Wright
Someone. I read the tweet. I'm sorry, I don't remember who pointed it out. Whether it's like Trey McBride has more touchdowns in the seven games that Jacoby Brissette has started than he has in his entire career with Kyler.
Jason Moore
Murray. Wow. Like, if you don't think that's a Kyler problem, if you don't think a quarterback matters, just ask Justin Jefferson. That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's Lows Nos. Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's, official partner of the NFL waiver wire. Tomorrow, enjoy the Monday Night Football game and know that somewhere in Arizona, a man will be huddled down and his name will be Jason. And he will be praying that Hunter Henry takes the night off. Take.
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Episode Date: December 1, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
This episode dives deep into the highs and lows of Week 13 in fantasy football, focusing on the stars who delivered (“studs”) and the big names who disappointed (“duds”). The hosts scrutinize underperforming superstars like Lamar Jackson and Justin Jefferson, debate whether it’s time to bench previously automatic starters, and thoroughly recap the key performances and injuries that could shape the fantasy playoffs.
Jason describes an intense playoff scenario: he went “all in” with trades for Jonathan Taylor and Josh Jacobs, but is on the playoff bubble because of recent tough weeks. It now hinges on Hunter Henry scoring fewer than 11.1 points on Monday night.
Memorable moment: “I'm supposed to watch these games, but I don't know if I can do it. I need to like every play put a piece of tape over wherever Hunter Henry is…” – Andy (05:27)
Mike and Andy relate, noting this is a common predicament for many managers: “This is that time of year where every one of us out there—it's on the line right now.” – Jason (05:56)
Amon-Ra St. Brown: Suffered low ankle sprain Thanksgiving; unlikely for Thursday Night against Dallas. The consensus: don’t rush him back unless desperate; the playoffs are where he’s most valuable.
Justin Herbert: Fractured left (non-throwing) hand, may play through injury after surgery.
Marvin Harrison Jr.: Dealing with a heel injury, left game early but returned.
Aaron Jones: Left with a potential aggravation of his previous AC joint injury.
Arizona Backfield: Kyren Williams briefly left and then returned, impacting Corum’s and Mason’s usage.
Lamar Jackson: “If Lamar Jackson at home against Cincinnati gives you a dud, you need to sit him down... 6.7 points.” – Jason (37:04)
Justin Jefferson: Two catches for 4 yards. “A goose would have felt better.” – Mike (51:13)
Saquon Barkley: “Running back 40 on the week. Sheesh.” – Jason (48:17)
Workhorse usage not translating; on pace for just over 1,000 total yards, but offers little upside for fantasy.
Jalen Hurts: Third bottom-12 week in last four, but hosts aren’t as worried: “A lot more cowardice than he used to – maybe wisdom, we’ll call it.” – Andy (41:31)
Zay Flowers: Disappearing (average points per game dropping each year).
DK Metcalf, Brian Thomas Jr., Jalen Waddle, Devonta Smith: Briefly discussed as disappointments. “Let’s play a game: Does he suck?” – Mike (58:11)
The episode is a must-listen for managers agonizing over big-name slumps during fantasy playoff pushes, especially at QB and WR. The hosts encourage tough, no-blinders roster decisions and keep things briskly entertaining with living-room banter, memorable analogies, and light-hearted segments.
For a detailed pulse on Week 13 and actionable advice as you approach the fantasy playoffs, this episode delivers the strategy and spirit the Fantasy Footballers are famous for.