Week 13 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Guice Guice Baby

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 13 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, Guice Guice Baby

Release Date: December 2, 2019

Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve into the highs and lows of Week 13 in the NFL, offering expert analysis, strong opinions, and actionable advice to help fantasy football enthusiasts optimize their teams as they edge closer to the playoffs.

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1. Game Recap: Monday Night Showdown (00:00 – 02:44)

The episode kicks off with a recap of the thrilling Monday Night Football game between Houston and Seattle, which concluded with a narrow victory for Houston at 28-22. The hosts dissect key moments, including a pivotal play by James White, whose unexpected deep run left fantasy managers both delighted and scratching their heads.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Moore [00:54]: “Congratulations to those of you that made your fantasy playoffs.”

2. Weekly Rewind: Studs & Stinkers Overview (02:44 – 06:14)

Transitioning into the Weekly Rewind segment, the trio reflects on the standout performers (“Studs”) and underperformers (“Stinkers”) from the past week. They share personal experiences and insights, setting the stage for deeper dives into specific player performances.

3. Studs of the Week (06:36 – 35:40)

Running Backs

Aaron Rodgers: Contrary to his primary position, Rodgers is highlighted for his consistent fantasy performance, proving invaluable in tight matchups.

• Andy Holloway [11:36]: “It was a stud week for Aaron Rodgers.”

Ryan Fitzpatrick & Devonte Parker: Fitzpatrick’s resurgence and Parker’s exceptional game-making ability earn them top spots as reliable fantasy assets.

• Jason Moore [13:01]: “Ryan Fitzpatrick had one of the best games of his career.”

Miles Sanders: Sanders continues to carry the bulk of his team's workload, making him a cornerstone for fantasy managers aiming for playoff success.

• Andy Holloway [21:22]: “Miles Sanders may be one of the players that gets you to the championship game.”

Wide Receivers

Devonte Parker: Parker’s stellar performance against Philadelphia positions him as a must-start for fantasy managers looking to gain an edge.

• Andy Holloway [26:16]: “Wide receiver Studs Devonte Parker takes the cake.”

Cortland Sutton: Sutton's explosive plays, including multiple touchdowns and game-changing catches, solidify his status as a dependable receiver.

• Jason Moore [27:06]: “Cortland Sutton to me was almost an unplayable asset this week.”

Jeffery & Robert Woods: Both Jeffery and Woods demonstrated significant involvement and production, making them valuable additions to fantasy lineups.

• Andy Holloway [29:35]: “Jeffrey, you always play Jeffrey when he's back… Robert Woods, 19 targets, 13 catches, 172 yards.”

Tight Ends

Michael Gasicki: Gasicki’s consistent target volume and favorable matchups categorize him as a reliable tight end option for the coming weeks.

• Jason Moore [35:19]: “Gasicki is in that streaming shot category with the way Fitzpatrick is playing.”

Quarterbacks

Sam Darnold: Darnold’s improved performances and favorable upcoming matchups make him a strategic quarterback choice moving forward.

• Mike Wright [35:40]: “Darnold next week against Miami.”

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4. Stinkers of the Week (36:34 – 56:38)

Running Backs

Tevin Coleman: Despite his high ceiling, Coleman’s inconsistency and fluctuating performances render him a risky pick for fantasy managers.

• Mike Wright [18:19]: “He has upside every week, but he's not safe.”

Ronald Jones & Pete Barber: Both players underperformed relative to their expectations, leading to frustration among fantasy owners.

• Andy Holloway [22:14]: “Coming week against Jamie and more.”

Wide Receivers

Odell Beckham Jr.: Beckham’s unpredictable performances and declining targets make him an unreliable option, prompting many to consider benching him.

• Jason Moore [48:44]: “It’s crazy how long it has taken the fantasy community to realize that Beckham is not a weekly must start guy.”

DJ Chark: Chark’s disappointing output despite ample opportunities has left fantasy managers questioning his future contributions.

• Andy Holloway [49:15]: “DJ Chart could have been one of the most disappointing players of the entire week.”

Tight Ends

Zach Ertz & Hunter Henry: Both tight ends failed to meet performance expectations, with low target volumes and minimal yardage affecting their fantasy viability.

• Jason Moore [35:23]: “Ertz almost had two different touchdowns, but drops got him.”

Quarterbacks

Nick Foles & Jameis Winston: Both quarterbacks struggled significantly, with Foles being benched due to poor performance and Winston failing to register any touchdowns.

• Andy Holloway [40:11]: “Nick Foles was disappointing.”

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5. Key Insights & Strategic Advice (56:38 – End)

As the episode concludes, the hosts offer strategic advice for fantasy managers navigating the late-season landscape. Emphasizing the importance of flexibility, they recommend:

• Streaming Players: Utilizing players like Sam Darnold and Michael Gasicki based on favorable matchups.
• Waiver Wire Moves: Considering pickups such as Robbie Anderson over underperforming players like Brandon Cooks.
• ** lineup Adjustments:** Dropping inconsistent players like Odell Beckham Jr. and focusing on reliable studs to strengthen playoff positions.

Notable Quote:

• Jason Moore [52:17]: “It's nice in this day and age to have that kind of true confidence.”

The trio underscores the importance of staying informed about player injuries, weather conditions, and matchup dynamics to make informed decisions that could propel fantasy teams toward championship glory.

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6. Conclusion

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers provides a comprehensive analysis of Week 13, empowering fantasy managers with the insights needed to refine their strategies. By distinguishing between studs and stinkers and offering actionable advice, Andy, Jason, and Mike equip listeners to navigate the final stretch of the fantasy season with confidence and tactical acumen.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Foreign.

[Jason Moore]

To the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from Pristine Auction.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in. Welcome into the Show Monday, Monday, December 2, episode of the podcast. Andy, Mike and Jason, the fantasy footballers through another tumultuous weekend of fantasy football. The Monday night game this evening.

[Jason Moore]

Congratulations to those of you who made your fantasy playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, congratulations to those of you that will end up on the right side side of the Hopkins Watkins lateral debate. It's so funny because I actually had text messages from friends this morning wanting to know, well, that, that, you know, that was a lateral. That's gonna get, that's gonna get corrected, right?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no, my friend, that's a forward pass.

[Andy Holloway]

I go to the tape and I'm like, I'm really, I'm sorry to tell you this, but he let go of that ball at the six and he got it at the five and a quarter and no, that's a pass.

[Mike Wright]

I also, the first time I saw the play, I thought that Hopkins had fumbled.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he threw it late. He's like getting hit.

[Mike Wright]

It looked like it went and Watson just happened to be there, but it was a great.

[Jason Moore]

See that Trubisky. That's how you run that play.

[Andy Holloway]

They asked him after the game, you know, they said, hey, you, you know, you did that in practice. How did it feel in the game compared to practice? And he was just like, well, I didn't get flipped over in practice, so it was a little different.

[Jason Moore]

I also saw him say that when he looked at the, you know, he saw it pre snap, he's like, he, he knew he had to change it and he's like, no, we're just going to go. And then they scored a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. What a performance by Houston last night.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Opening up that AFC playoff picture a little bit.

[Jason Moore]

Super close game. 22 to 28.

[Andy Holloway]

Very end, huh?

[Jason Moore]

Very close.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. The smell. Ooh, the smell.

[Andy Holloway]

James White going ham.

[Mike Wright]

That last James White reception where nobody played deepest. Hilarious. The Texans are like, come on, dude, the game is over. What are you doing, James? James, what are you doing?

[Jason Moore]

Stop for fantasy. He's just running screaming that down the field.

[Andy Holloway]

We've got the weekly rewind today. Stud muffins. Stinkers of the week. Our own reactions, probably some insight on our own gut punches that took place over the weekend in different leagues. Happy to say that we are playoff bound in NFL League one.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

In the sleeper bowl.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

The league one.

[Mike Wright]

We secured the spot of the playoffs. We will be taking on Adam rank.

[Andy Holloway]

That's round one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And those playoffs actually start in week 15 in the sleeper bowl. We did secure the bye week and a. They asked for it and they deserve it. A proper shout out to Nelk Films. The boys over there, they are the number one seed in the sleeper bowl. They have a dominant team and they've been kicking. Yeah. Hopefully we see them in the championship.

[Andy Holloway]

So does that mean we're off next week before we face rank? We just have nothing.

[Mike Wright]

That is league one.

[Jason Moore]

The playoffs haven't started, but we've already locked. So basically we have a bi week in both of those. Yeah. So we're taking the show off.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Taking the week off. That'd be this week to deal with my own. Missing the Dynasty league by six points on the season.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we're missing the league of record because of that Philip Rivers interception two weeks ago, you bum.

[Andy Holloway]

We're doing fine. We're doing so fine.

[Mike Wright]

Is so much fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we're doing fine because we are sophisticated and we would never let emotions pinkies up overwhelm us. And so let's get into our Monday punday.

[Jason Moore]

Let's kick it.

[Andy Holloway]

We've got geist. Geist, baby.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Or maybe the geist is right.

[Jason Moore]

Cole Beastly.

[Andy Holloway]

He really was.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I follow that. With Tyler Higbeast.

[Jason Moore]

Tyler Hig played Arizona.

[Andy Holloway]

Hig wee McColl Fartman. Oh, that's not fair.

[Mike Wright]

Come on.

[Andy Holloway]

Le'Veon smells.

[Jason Moore]

I smell Williams smell of fartsky.

[Andy Holloway]

Derek Carbage.

[Mike Wright]

People know how to get on the show.

[Jason Moore]

When I saw that, I thought it was Derek cabbage, which is just as good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Just as many fantasy points. Jonathan Williams.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

And then the weekly shot at Mike Mevins. Oh, come on, man.

[Mike Wright]

You're where you are.

[Andy Holloway]

Is he like the number one? Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I have had Mike Evans and he has over the course of the season had a lot of fantasy points put up. But the way in which they have come have not produced enough consistency. So I'm with the Mike Evans, you know, Mike Mehvins out there.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll get into the truth after the season. Look at the consistency of those guys. You're right. He's had some. Obviously some. He had a goose early in the season and it's been weird. Total points. Doesn't you know you needed more than what you got yesterday? So that's why people are acting out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Against him. You can find us on twitter@the ffballers. I encourage everyone to check out JoinTheFoot.com our fantasy football community. We just added a discord server. We've got forums, we've got leagues, we got proprietary reports. And what's great is as the off season is approaching, you get an extra episode of this show because we cut down total episodes per week during the beginning of the off season. And you get an extra episode so you can stay connected.

[Mike Wright]

Where you ask the questions. Yes, well, we asked the questions, actually, because we are reading them.

[Jason Moore]

You submit the question. Thank you, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Then we read them and maybe we answer them.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's true.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's get into the rewind.

[Jason Moore]

Weekly rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Baker Mayfield underwent X rays on the throwing hand for a contusion during halftime. Said he spotted.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he missed a couple plays but came back in. He's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Nick Foles was benched. I'm sorry. How do you. It's so hard because if you don't bench him, you're doing the wrong thing. But if you do bench him, you just benched $45 million.

[Mike Wright]

It's the right decision for your football team. Like Nick Foles, he has had not been playing great football heading into this week. The matchup seemed to me. I'm sorry, I thought the matchup was going to be enough for Nick Foles to overcome.

[Jason Moore]

To everyone, I mean, Tampa is terrible now with there were a couple of these guys, right? And wind and weather played a factor in a lot of these games. But certainly either, either Foles doesn't know how to play in the wind or he just was straight up.

[Andy Holloway]

But you know, just to speak to the narrative that Tampa Bay is terrible, you're now two consecutive weeks of looking at what they give up to fantasy quarterbacks and wide receivers and two consecutive weeks of disappointment. Matt, Matt Ryan was terrible against them.

[Mike Wright]

Wasn't that a few weeks ago?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, that was last week. That was last week. And then Nick Foles, both of those players look like smash plays and both of them stunk. So we need to bear that in mind in the streaming Jacoby Brissette next week discussion. Just need to keep it in mind. Greg Olson concussion, It was an ugly one. Darrell Williams left with a hamstring injury.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Darwin Thompson got into that game.

[Mike Wright]

Darwin. Well, number one. So Darrell Williams went down. It was a non contact where he. If you remember the Devin Singletary play from the beginning of the season where Darrell Williams was just taking a. He was running the ball out to the left. Went down. You have to imagine that he's going to miss some time. Darwin Thompson does become interesting because of Damian Williams injury and Shady McCoy's fumbling and he's been getting banged up this week or this year. And Darwin. But Darwin Thompson got in because the game was a blowout and the team finally got to see what Darwin could do. Is that enough to earn Darwin playing time? That remains to be seen.

[Jason Moore]

I think the injuries are. I mean, if Damian isn't back and Daryl's out, then, yeah, Darwin's going to be important.

[Andy Holloway]

He's an explosive player, so he has the possibility of. Much like a. Miles Sanders, when Jordan Howard was the lead dog, could give you that one big play in a game, even if he's not having considerable work. But, you know, at this time of year, you might be in a situation where you need to look at him. We'll talk waivers tomorrow. Caleb Lodge, leg injury. Patrick Laird stepped up.

[Mike Wright]

He sorta. I mean, he scored.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's stepping up in Miami. They won that game, too. So shout out to.

[Jason Moore]

Miami.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Patrick. I couldn't help but just start to roll over in my head what this game meant to Philadelphia and for them to lose that game. Their season has gone sideways quickly. I couldn't see the future. It was a lie. It was all a lie.

[Mike Wright]

Hold on, hold on just a minute.

[Jason Moore]

We trusted you.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. It was a big show and dance.

[Mike Wright]

Wow. I believed you.

[Andy Holloway]

I was pretending.

[Jason Moore]

I thought you genuinely knew the future because you said that you knew it.

[Andy Holloway]

Only if they win.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah. It wasn't, I would say, a not great year for the Eagles. Accurate.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Adam Thielen out. Surprisingly, we found that out yesterday. We found that out. Borland, Giamatti. Did we hear that, like, after the kickoff?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was in the middle of the morning.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you had a player you were going to play over Thielen, they would have been locked on your bench by the time you found out.

[Jason Moore]

And I don't have this. I don't have Thielen anywhere, so I didn't have the decision to be made, but I for sure would have waited because, Yes, I would have as well. Everything. Said he was going to play. He was practicing on the week. It just looked like he was ready to go and. No. No.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. People might have made decisions on Kyle Rudolph on the basis that Thielen was back. Well, not. Not playing Kyle Rudolph.

[Jason Moore]

If you did what you should have done, at the very least, which is make sure he's in your flex. I think Kyle Rudolph can actually be a pivot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. That's actually smart.

[Jason Moore]

If you're, you know, looking at your roster and there's nobody else to pick up and you can pivot to Kyle Rudolph then. You know, I think he's got as good odds at a touchdown as anybody tonight.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a. That's a fair point. I guess you could do the same with Hollister, potentially.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Pick him up. Weekly rewind news notes brought to you by the sleeper app. Let's talk studs.

[Jason Moore]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a stud week for Aaron Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

He thought he was in Lambeau. He's like, look at this snow. I'm good.

[Mike Wright]

The plant. The plan is working out, fellas.

[Andy Holloway]

Start, start, sit.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Start, start, cut.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So Washington next week, Smash play for Rogers. Then Chicago, then Minnesota.

[Jason Moore]

Chicago and Lambo. Man, people are going to want to play him. That's why we're talking about now to avoid you playing him in that all important week. But that's going to be tough because if he smashes again this coming week.

[Mike Wright]

Which he should, and he's going to.

[Jason Moore]

How do you binge him at home in the playoffs?

[Mike Wright]

That's why you have to cut him.

[Jason Moore]

But you got. Yeah, you got it. Exactly. You can't just bench him. You have to cut him. People are going to do it. I really hope we're right on that.

[Mike Wright]

I do too.

[Jason Moore]

It's part of the plan.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mike Wright]

How's the future look over there, future man for air?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know, Rod.

[Jason Moore]

Say that it looks good.

[Andy Holloway]

Rogers really likes to show people that he's not dead. 21 for 33. Four touchdowns. Before Week 13, he had thrown a combined two touchdown passes in the past three games. That's the thing you need to remember. All right. Ryan Fitzpatrick went crazy. Devonte Parker had the best game of his career.

[Jason Moore]

Is a beast.

[Mike Wright]

I am so happy. What is happening with Ryan Fitzpatrick and devonte Parker like these. These are the fantasy things that bring me joy. Is when this just the stinkiest of fantasy trash. They're actually gold.

[Jason Moore]

I love that. You know, early in the season, whenever it was, you know, several weeks ago, five or six weeks ago, when I said I love devonte Parker. I believe we cut that sound clip out to play at my funeral.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And we'll never hear it when it's right. It's like we don't come back to it.

[Andy Holloway]

Not if you die soon.

[Jason Moore]

That's true.

[Andy Holloway]

You'll be genius 303. That's what Mitch Trubisky, Tom Brady and Carson Wentz put up this week.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Tom Brady, you garbage can.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was. That's not fair.

[Jason Moore]

It's not Fair. Brady looked. I mean, I was thinking, thank you. Brady looked horrific for most of the game. He looked. I was walking to my car this morning and thinking, is this the time where Philip Rivers and Brady, like, are the. Are the old men starting to show that they're getting washed? And you can never. Because of the Patriots. You know, they've still got super bowl runs in them for the next six or seven years, but it just felt like. It felt like watching them, they were a step slow. They couldn't move around the pocket like they always have. They missed throws that you just don't. You don't see Brady and Rivers just missing throws for the last five years, and that's what you're seeing. And then, of course, he ends up with a good fantasy game.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and Deshaun Watson was the story of the evening. 18 for 25, 234 and 3. Had a rushing touchdown, had a receipt, had the receiving touchdown. What. What's kind of crazy to me, and this is why I've been a Bill O'Brien supporter since he's been there, is that they. Two or three times a year, they show up in big important games with a game plan to win, and this was a game where Tom Brady and the offense couldn't get bailed out by the super defense because Houston had a game plan to win the ball game, and they did. I mean, it was just well executed.

[Jason Moore]

They should have those game plans more often. They should do that more than twice a year.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you're not wrong, but they are a good team. They're a good team. And they. They have Denver, Tennessee, Tampa on the schedule to finish out the year. Watson balled out, and here we are, I mean, making New England look mortal. They no longer have the one seed, you know, that belongs to Baltimore.

[Mike Wright]

Now.

[Jason Moore]

A lot of people out there bench to Sean Watson because of the matchup. I'm happy that, you know, we were saying he's not a must bench guy. I saw it with Dan, I didn't.

[Mike Wright]

Want to play him.

[Jason Moore]

You saw it with Dak, had a good game against, you know, the people.

[Andy Holloway]

It was the fact he was at home.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, big time.

[Andy Holloway]

I was super afraid of him on the road. Less afraid at home. But at the same time, you might have pivoted. Now, if you pivoted to Jared Goff.

[Jason Moore]

You'Re happy, you're fine. I mean, that.

[Andy Holloway]

That's beautiful.

[Jason Moore]

He should do.

[Andy Holloway]

Can I play the Cardinals next week, everybody?

[Jason Moore]

Okay, but if you pivoted to Darnold.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that wasn't good. No, that wasn't good. Or Kyler.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But Jared Goff, 424, he was. He had more yards in the first half than I think he had in the previous two games combined. Arizona. True Arizona. Yeah. Arizona plays like, you know, sometimes you got like, they're, they're, they're manned up and they're on the ball and they're jamming them or then they're like, there's off coverage and they play off five or 10 yards. Right? They play off 15, 20.

[Mike Wright]

Well, you got to give them that cushion.

[Jason Moore]

The cushion is you don't want to get beat deep.

[Mike Wright]

That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, we watched this thing out here. They're coming off a bye week. Arizona looked as bad as the team could look this week.

[Jason Moore]

They were rusty, you know.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you're.

[Jason Moore]

You're right. I think that's.

[Mike Wright]

They were too rested.

[Jason Moore]

They were too rested. They were trying to get back into game shape after that bye week. I mean, they were so bad. I couldn't even, you know, we're in Arizona. We are Cardinals fans. And watching this game just from that perspective was like, man, this team sucks.

[Andy Holloway]

It was gross. Yeah, it was ugly. They have no defense whatsoever. So whoever they're playing, I believe Pittsburgh next week, decisions to be made in Pittsburgh.

[Jason Moore]

There was a play. There was a play where they.

[Andy Holloway]

Why not.

[Jason Moore]

Sure, roll them out. Where Higby rolls out and he was well covered and they, and they missed the play. And I said at the studio, I was like, oh, my goodness, we. The Cardinals just guarded a tight end. The next play was a touchdown to Tyler Higby. Yeah, like they had one good coverage all game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was a one time thing. Running back studs. It's the group we all expected. Darius Geist, Raheem Mosert and James White leading the way. Most are 19 for 146 and one against Baltimore. Against Baltimore, 42 snaps. Tevin Coleman had 10 snaps. What do fantasy owners do with Tevin Coleman, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

Dude, I don't know. I mean, I didn't. I was fading Tevin Coleman in this matchup. Plus you added in the fact that there they had some, some weather issues there where it was going to be wet conditions. I didn't really like Coleman. This wasn't though, that I don't like Coleman. So I'm going to pivot to the backup running back. But Coleman, we have kind of highlighted over the last couple weeks that Coleman, he looks like fantasy fool's gold. He came out after the injury, had that one massive game where he got like three touchdowns on very limited touches. It seemed like he was going to be the guy. Then Matt Burrida goes out. But Coleman is just. He is not. He's not a safe running back too. He has upside every week, but he's not safe.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we brought it up a couple weeks ago. The fact that if you take out that monstrous game, his weekly average was the running back 27. It's only gone down since we brought that up. I mean he's not even an RB2. He's, you know. And when you're playing RB3s, you're not winning in your normal weekly matchups. The question and we'll dive into it more tomorrow about the waivers. Who do you pick up? Is Breida coming back? Is Mostert a must grab? Is Coleman injured? Was there something more to the benching?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's going to get complicated. They have New Orleans in New Orleans next week.

[Mike Wright]

No, thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

And Matt Burrito, I think will be back. He was very close to getting back this past week. It will muddy the waters. And if you're leaning on Tevin Coleman, you're in trouble next week. Darius guys had 10 carries. 10.

[Jason Moore]

That's not a lot that you want.

[Andy Holloway]

Not according to Carolina. They said that's just. Just enough.

[Jason Moore]

That's a plenty.

[Andy Holloway]

129 yards, two touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Do you really have two? Yeah, I. In my matchup. Here's a little peel back the curtain. In my matchup, my opponent who has pretty much a super team. What a loser. Julio Jones was out. He had to pivot from Julio to his bench. And who did he throw in but Darius Geiss. That jerk.

[Andy Holloway]

Adrian Peterson in his own right was 13 for 99 with a touchdown as well. Which means combined they put up what, 228 yards and three touchdowns on the ground against Carolina.

[Mike Wright]

You can run on the Panthers, Aaron.

[Jason Moore]

No, who plays Panthers next week? I was thinking it was Green Bay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Whoever it is. You've been starting running backs. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh no.

[Andy Holloway]

Devonta, you ready?

[Jason Moore]

Oh no. I don't know. I'm not ready for this.

[Mike Wright]

Don't you wanna.

[Andy Holloway]

So James White. James White had had a horrible previous week, but they were playing from behind the whole game. And the garbage time thing came to fruition. Has Kansas City next week. You could be in a similar boat next week. So James White, you can play moving forward. Miles Sanders, 17 for 83 finally. And also had five catches for 22 yards and a touchdown. I don't know when we'll see Jordan Howard again. To be honest with You. So Miles Sanders, the majority of all the work. You know, I saw JJ talking about, we've had this narrative of committee backs in Philadelphia, and they just want to do a committee. Well, they don't want to unless they can with the talent that they have available. If it's Howard and Miles Sanders, they do. If it's Miles Sanders and Jay, they don't. Miles Sanders takes the vast majority of all the work. He had a nice game. They have New York and Washington coming up. So Miles Sanders may be one of the players that gets you to the championship game.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. This next week against the Giants. If Jordan Howard is out again, then Miles Sanders isn't a great position to get again.

[Andy Holloway]

And Todd Gurley, Jason, start of the week. Big week. 19 for 95. 1.

[Jason Moore]

And Ronald Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, don't forget Ronald Jones.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

Pete Barber. 17 for 44. Mike.

[Mike Wright]

The process was sound.

[Jason Moore]

And two. Two touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Come on. When did Pete Barber become the starter again?

[Andy Holloway]

What happened yesterday? Mike, it was yesterday.

[Mike Wright]

Why can't you inform me?

[Jason Moore]

Bruce, do you honestly, I thought we were friends. Think he has like a Magic 8 ball bruise that has. Of who to play, of which guy to roll out. Because you just can't ever know. It's one of those situations where if you just. If you're in a league where you get the backfield, if you. You just say, I get the Tampa Bay running backs. You know, there are leagues like that out there where you get the position of a team, then you are so stinking happy with Tampa Bay's running game this year they've been very good. But in normal fantasy leagues, it's impossible. It's imp. It's literally been probably the most destructive running back situation in the league. Because every single time through the year where it seems like there was a glimmer of trust, the rope was pulled out from underneath you.

[Andy Holloway]

He shook the ball.

[Jason Moore]

The rope?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the rope. On a rope, you stand on the rope.

[Jason Moore]

Cliche. You don't want the rope pulled out from underneath you. I said it. I knew it was wrong.

[Mike Wright]

Step one, don't stand on a rope.

[Jason Moore]

Because someone could pull it.

[Andy Holloway]

Because someone could just yank it out from under you.

[Jason Moore]

The rug. The rug is what you should be.

[Mike Wright]

Standing on when the tightrope gets pulled out from under.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, that's scary.

[Jason Moore]

Teach me for standing on a rope.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, wide receiver Studs Devonte Parker takes the cake. He's going to win people Fantasy Leagues against Philadelphia. 7 for 159 and 210 targets has the jets and Giants in their next two matchups. And heck if you play in Week 17. Oh, just enjoy the Bengals. Since Week 8, he's the wide receiver. 8. 15.4 fantasy points per game. We've seen Ryan Fitzpatrick do this before, but what we haven't seen when the season began was it was Fitz, then it was Rosen, and then there was Preston Williams. And now all of a sudden the great bearded one is just flinging it.

[Mike Wright]

He's getting it done.

[Andy Holloway]

Man smiles when he's winning, he smiles when he's losing. He doesn't care. But Cortland Sutton balled out as well. Five targets, two touchdowns, including one of the best catches of the season.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness, the touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

It was unbelievable. I mean, he's diving. So, like making a diving catch is so much harder than we think as we get to see these amazing athletes make diving catches all the time. And oftentimes those diving catches are dropped. Now do it with one hand. Now dive with a guy on your back. A tiny window where you only get to see the ball at the last second. Grab it with your far single hand, pin it to your neck. And then when you, when you, you.

[Andy Holloway]

Should be a color man, when you.

[Jason Moore]

Hit the ground, don't let that ball roll. It was unbelievable. Cortland Sutton to me was almost an unplayable asset this week. I was wrong. I saw him with, you know, look, Drew Locke coming in. Is it going to be good or bad? It's, it's not going to be not great, Bob.

[Mike Wright]

But he was better than Brandon Allen.

[Jason Moore]

He's Corland. Sutton is just so good. And we've said this before, we said this when Brandon Allen came, like Sutton is the real deal.

[Andy Holloway]

There's still, there's still more variability to him than there are other top notch wide receivers. You said better than Brandon Allen. Well, not true. The first time he played with Brandon Allen, I mean, he scored in that game.

[Mike Wright]

And I'm saying watching Drew Locke play, he was a better quarterback than Brandon Allen. And Drew Locke is willing to take chances down the field.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, so let's turn that to the fantasy realm. Are you confident with Sutton? Do you just lock him in moving forward? Because it's the same question with Kenny Galladay. If he's got a third string quarterback, you know, David Blau.

[Jason Moore]

We've got a new Blau. Pow. Yeah. Look. Cortland Sutton's schedule coming up.

[Mike Wright]

It's nice.

[Jason Moore]

Houston, Kansas City and Detroit. Yeah, Those are three plus matchups, which means you play him, he's going to be in everyone's lineup that is out there. And you know, you're going to find out is he, is he up to the task?

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Alshon, Jeffrey and Robert Woods. Sixteen targets for Jeffrey, 19 for Robert woods, which was incredible. Jeffrey, you always play Jeffrey when he's back. I said that on the show last week. When you have no wide receivers for Carson Wentz. You saw it the week before with no wide receivers. When Jeffrey comes back, he always ends up with double digit targets. Did I see nine for 137 on one? I don't think anybody did. But that was a monstrous game from Jeffrey. They were trying to get back into it at the very end. Sixteen targets, my goodness, that's. You can't trust anybody else on the offense.

[Jason Moore]

No, not really.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you play Ertz every week and you're just talking about, I mean.

[Andy Holloway]

In the wide receiver court.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that is, that is accurate.

[Andy Holloway]

When Wentz goes through his progressions, it's like three Jeffries and an Aguilar and, and that's how it goes. 1, 2, 3. And then Robert Woods. 19 targets, 13 catches, 172 yards.

[Jason Moore]

He's 19. He's. He's a good wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

I get it just is so bizarre.

[Andy Holloway]

But you can't, you can't believe very much every opportunity you've had this season to piggyback a Cardinal game has failed.

[Jason Moore]

That's you're saying with golf.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm talking about when people come out hawkinson week one, when you come out and you dominate the Arizona Cardinals, you take it with a grain of salt every single time. This will be the best game Robert woods has this year.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, well, I mean, when you have 172 yards, I think that's true of almost everybody. But Robert woods has been good lately. 80 yards, 95, 97, 172 yards. Those are four of his last five games. He had a turd in there with 35 yards, but he's actually been pretty darn good. And I think the beginning of the year was the. Was what has really scarred people because, I mean, he sucked to start the year outside of that 164 yard.

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm with Jason that his last three games. 95, 97, 172. Yes. He's not going to get you 172 yards. What's funny is 172 yards is actually only his best game by eight yards. Like he had 164 yards earlier is no touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He has no receiving touchdowns on the year. That is, That's.

[Mike Wright]

That makes no sense.

[Jason Moore]

It's really hard to do when you're talking about, you know, he's got 835 yards right now. He's on pace for 1200 yards. And no. No receiving touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Just wild, man.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean, we knew that Rams players were going to dominate Arizona, but it's been rough sledding with what Goff had put up. He put up zero passing touchdowns in November. So, yeah, Robert woods wasn't alone in not catching any.

[Jason Moore]

And the schedule is not the best going forward. Seattle's fine. I think that's a matchup that you can do well against. But Dallas and San Francisco, those. Those are difficult.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Who do you have more confidence moving forward with from this group of honorable mentions this week? I, you know, I'm going to go straight up, just studs. Anthony Miller was 9 for 140 on 13 targets. That was one more target that Alan Robinson had. Has Dallas on Thursday. Cole Beasley.

[Mike Wright]

I believe you mean Cole Beastly.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Cole BEASLEY.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Six for one, 10 and one. Or James Washington, who once again ended up on the stat sheet and has Arizona next week. 4 for 111 for James Washington.

[Jason Moore]

I have to trust one of those three.

[Andy Holloway]

You have. Yeah, you do. You've got to make a play. Anthony Miller's been way more involved over the last two weeks. You know, I didn't mention Trubisky, but he was 303. And, you know, they have Dallas on Thursday, Anthony Miller, 13 targets. Cole Beasley, who, if you've chased the points with Beasley, you've been rewarded. And then James Washington's been big.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I don't know if you guys realize this, but Devlin Hodges, he is the first undrafted rookie quarterback to win his first two starts since Ed Rubbert.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I remember all day.

[Mike Wright]

Seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Hot stats. I think obviously James Washington has the best matchup because he's playing Arizona.

[Mike Wright]

They're duck bros, man.

[Jason Moore]

But I think I would trust Cole Beasley. He's. He's just been more involved more often. Several good weeks every week. I'm like, I don't want to trust Cole Beasley. But then he's been good, you know, more often than he's been Bad. So I think I would put my trust there with Anthony Miller. He has had such a great stretch of games and he's good. But you know, I brought this up two weeks ago and again this last week, Mitchell Trubisky's splits when he plays a top 10 defense, passing defense versus a bottom 10 passing defense are astronaut. It's 10 points to 26 points. He can beat up on bad passing defenses and absolutely is horrific against good passing defenses. So I'm not going to trust Trubisky against Dallas this coming week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's helped that Taylor Gabriel's been out at the tight end position. Tyler Higby did what anyone would do against the Cars. And when I say anyone, I mean Red Ellison, I mean Ross Dwelling. I mean if you play tight end or if you hold up a little name card and it says tight end on it, they will let you pass. It's, it's frivolous. Tyler Higby, 7 for 107 and 1.

[Mike Wright]

So Tyler Higby, this is his career yardage. Like it's among his.

[Andy Holloway]

He did that in the first half. Career high in yardage, first half.

[Mike Wright]

Well, his rookie year he put up 85 yards. On the season. On the season, 295 yards total. The next year, 292 yards total. The next year he put up 107.

[Jason Moore]

Yards and a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Running wild and free. Yeah, it's ridiculous. So Is he a one week play? Yeah, he's a one week play.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Gasicki, 5 for 79 1. This was exciting to see a second consecutive week with a touchdown. Gasick, he's in that streaming shot category with the way Fitzpatrick is playing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Jets, Giants, Cincinnati, he could win you some leagues.

[Jason Moore]

The fact that Fitzpatrick is looking his way is what matters because Gasicki's talented. He was drafted to be a superstar tight end, if you don't remember. You know, Mike Gasicki coming into draft season was everyone's favorite tight end because he's.

[Mike Wright]

He was built in a lab.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

He has, he has a top five finish in week nine. Top four finished last week and he's going to do it again this week. So you're talking about three top five performances in the last five weeks. That puts him into the category of somebody that you can look at with those matchups.

[Jason Moore]

Jets, Giants, Bengals.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Jack Doyle, six for 73 and one in the first week without Eric Ebron.

[Jason Moore]

Eleven targets. That was the most important part of that. And I think Jack Doyle is someone you can stay with as well.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason Whitten, 6 for 42. Darren Waller.

[Jason Moore]

Got that hundo.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. The return of the walrus, it was. It was foreseen.

[Mike Wright]

What? Yeah, we talked about. Hunter Renfro was the man stealing all the Wallers targets. Nine targets. I mean, they were. To be. To be fair, for Waller, I mean, it was a great performance. Oakland was chasing the entire match against the Chiefs.

[Andy Holloway]

It's very important that I don't speak one more word about the Raiders without hitting this button.

[Jason Moore]

Stinkers of the Week presented by Odor Eaters.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, you know how you felt when you kind of like apologized to Amari Cooper and then he just ruined your multiple matches for multiple weeks? Yeah, yeah, I feel a little bit the same going to bat for Derek Carr, who had been statistically and by the eye test, a very competent game manager, winning games yesterday. They went into that matchup with the opportunity to tie the Chiefs atop the division. Instead, we've got a second consecutive stink fest for Derek Cabbage. Is that what you call them? Derek Cabbage?

[Jason Moore]

Sure. Derek Cabbage is. I feel like that's too big of a compliment because I like.

[Mike Wright]

I like cabbage.

[Jason Moore]

Cabbage isn't the best way.

[Andy Holloway]

I was saying, what does cabbage really bring you?

[Jason Moore]

Crunch. Coleslaw crunch. So coleslaw is made with cabbage, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like a good coleslaw, but it's not. I mean, like, Mike, you would chomp on some plain old cabbage just like.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not just like grabbing an apple.

[Jason Moore]

Open a fresh bag like an apple.

[Andy Holloway]

You said it brought crunch.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Not flavor.

[Jason Moore]

No. So Derek cabbage.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Derek cabbage it is.

[Mike Wright]

I bring the crunch.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the reality with Derek Carbon.

[Andy Holloway]

He gets crunched.

[Jason Moore]

We had talked about, you know, how bad he has been in matchups in Arrowhead in the past. He just historically has not been great there. But we, you know, we brought it up last week. Bring it up this week, every week. This is when weather really comes into play this time of the year, your fantasy playoffs. And we don't have that information early in the week. The projections are just too unreliable. When you're early in a week, the morning of. You got to look at those. You know, we put out a weather report on the fancy footballers.com or tweeting things out. There were so many games you had. Look at, look at the games that were affected by Wynn that we were talking about on Twitter before the game. You had the Tampa Bay game, which, you know, we were worried about Jameis, about Foles. You had Darnold and you had. This game was unbelievably windy. I moved Pat Mahomes down a couple spots. Derek Carr was dead to me. The wind there was just unbelievable. So when you're on those streaming guys, not those, you know, Aaron Rodgers in bad weather, but when you're on those streaming guys and they've got, all of a sudden, an extra factor, you know, we're streaming based on good matchups. We're saying it should be easy for them, but if the weather comes in and makes it difficult, they're probably not good enough to overcome, you know, a new obstacle.

[Andy Holloway]

Sam Darnold had been the number seven. Number seven and number three quarterback in weeks 10, 11, and 12, heads to Cincinnati and puts up an absolute terrible performance.

[Jason Moore]

The Bengals defense just too good.

[Andy Holloway]

And now you're thrown into question with your confidence for Sam Darnold against Miami next week, which should be an easy smash play. But now you have seen that Cincinnati wasn't. So what are you. What are you doing with Sam Darnold?

[Mike Wright]

I will play him.

[Jason Moore]

I will play him as well. And I'll say something like three of his last four games have been really good because it's. It's true. I mean, it was a bad game, but, you know, Miami is, you know, a really good matchup. Obviously, watch the weather. If the weather is bad, then maybe pivot, but the matchup's good. He can get it done. And I love the fact that he was using Robbie Anderson this week because the deep threat, hopefully, is going to help fantasy points come.

[Andy Holloway]

Jameis Winston, he fumbled, but he didn't throw any interceptions, which meant he didn't throw any touchdowns. See, the interceptions are crucial. They're crucial.

[Jason Moore]

I want to keep that ratio the same.

[Andy Holloway]

The touch. Yeah, the ratio maintained. So what do you do? The performance, you just keep playing.

[Mike Wright]

Look, if you watch the game, Tampa Bay dominated. Nick Foles ended up getting benched because the team as a whole was playing so great. They had a defensive score. Peyton Barber had two rushing touchdowns. This was. This was very unfortunate for Jameis because Tampa Bay whooped booty, but Jameis didn't have any touchdowns, and so it killed him for fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Nick Foles, we talked about that disappointing performance. I wouldn't be surprised if Gardner got the next start.

[Jason Moore]

That'll be interesting, but it will be.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's gonna be. It's the Chargers, so it's at home, but it's against the Chargers running backs. Aaron Jones is a problem right now for fantasy owners because he had been absolutely smashing. But then three out of the last four Weeks it's been disappointing. Averaging about the same amount of fantasy points as Jamal Williams is. Has Washington and Chicago and then Minnesota only 11 carries.

[Jason Moore]

He got a touchdown in this game and then it was called back. I remember.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. My. My son has Aaron Jones and was very disappointed at eight years old. He wrote him a letter this morning. No, he didn't. Don't. Don't do that. Don't do that. But he was, he was bummed out. It hasn't been good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I still think you start him, you know, coming up here, Washington, Chicago, which is a decent matchup on the ground. I mean how are you going to bench Aaron Jones? You got to have really great options because there aren't. While he has the ability to put up duds, he also has the rare ability to put up a 30 or 40 point week. Not a lot of people can do that. So.

[Mike Wright]

Touchdown distribution.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I mean Aaron Rodgers threw four touchdowns. They. He took him away from Aaron Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Might as well continue the stink in New York. Lev Bell, 10 for 32.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, 10 for 32.

[Jason Moore]

I watched him woof. I remember 33rd down and 14 and he picked up that first down by a good two or three yards on the ground. How did he finish with 10 for 32? Wow. That I had no. I was unaware of just next level stuff here from Lev Bell was holy moly.

[Mike Wright]

Jonathan Williams, his job may be gone.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he only had 14 snaps. Jordan Wilkins 29 snaps. Naeem Hines 30 snaps including Hines getting a goal line touchdown. Jordan Wilkins 11 for 47. Finally back in reality. Yes, he was active last Thursday but he hadn't practiced. So there was a lot of questions around his availability. Clearly a lot healthier now and then. Jonathan Williams just didn't get a lot of work. So you might have just had your one week sucks of Jonathan Williams success.

[Mike Wright]

Because a full time running back for the Colts like Marlon Mack will fantastic. But if they go with this timeshare where it's a three way timeshare then.

[Jason Moore]

Now we did hear that Marlon Mack is hopeful for week 14.

[Mike Wright]

Is he?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was. That was the last report I saw his first first timeline was hoping to be back by week 14.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play him in his first week back?

[Jason Moore]

I would hope to not play him in his first week back to be honest if I. But. But he is the caliber of running back where you might not have a good enough. I'm not going to pivot down to a Jamal Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

I lean that I would go his direction with them fighting on the Edge of the playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

I would. And it's not a leg injury. I mean it stinks at its hand and he's got to hold on to the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a fair point.

[Mike Wright]

If he gets like a good chop in there, maybe it rehearse the hand, but at least his legs are okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I guess if he can hold the ball, you're probably okay. With Marlomac. Devonta Freeman, on his way back against New Orleans was 17 for 51. Next week, Carolina, that was the match we were talking about. Carolina just got smoked by Darius Guice and Peterson. I think Freeman's in your lineup. David Johnson 4 for 15, 2 for 9. Who?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, I guess we were right. It felt weird to say it, but we said you can drop David Johnson before the buy.

[Andy Holloway]

And Chase Edmonds had no touches in this game either.

[Jason Moore]

The fact that you had the bye week to rest up, you know, if it felt dangerous when we're like, okay, you could drop David Johnson and you know, not a must drop, but if you, if you need to move on, move on. Because coming off the buy, there was the world where, okay, he's, he's healthy now and that was the issue. And he comes out and he's the starter. First snap, Drake, most snaps. Drake. Drake is the starter for the Arizona Cardinals and David Johnson has a, is a flat out backup. He's a handcuff now and I'm not sure. Oh, no, yeah, I mean he's the handcuff and if Drake goes down, anything changed.

[Andy Holloway]

Rest away with the back half of the game. He got more snaps, got some receiving work.

[Jason Moore]

Drake garbage time.

[Mike Wright]

Drake was not productive. 13 for 31. Any hope?

[Jason Moore]

I have no hope. I have, I have zero hope.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Drake stunk. Sonny Michelle just 10 for 45. Game script was the anti Sony Michelle game script.

[Jason Moore]

How is Philip Lindsey in the busts?

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't say his name, but, but no, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

He is a bust. He had 58 rushing yards, four receiving yards. But when that game start, this has happened three weeks in a row now. When this game started, every single play was like, oh, my word, Philip Lindsay's good. You watched him just tearing up the field pitter patter like. I believe you called him a video game player.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, fantasy points per steps taken. He would be number one.

[Jason Moore]

But I mean he, he looked so good.

[Mike Wright]

Gets off to those Fred Flintstone feet.

[Jason Moore]

He does. Strong start, but for some reason every single week he can't finish the game with a good fantasy line.

[Andy Holloway]

They're not a team look, if they win games the rest of the way, it's going to be 17, 14. It's not going to be prolific with Drew Locke & Co. It's just not. I mean, Brandon Allen, Drew Locke, this is what you're dealing with. Denver's gonna have to play defense, kick field goals and unfortunately that means very limited goal line opportunities for Philip Lindsay, who did look good. That's the weird part of it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He has not looked bad at all the last few weeks. Every time I see him, he looks great. Not a great fantasy option.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Beckham returned to his 3 for 29.

[Mike Wright]

He wasn't in the stinkers, which I don't know, I feel like he should have been. What's the. What's your guys's temperature here? Here with Patrick Mahomes, who had 175 yards, one touchdown, but that was coming off of 182 yards and one passing.

[Jason Moore]

No worries.

[Andy Holloway]

He did get in on the ground though.

[Jason Moore]

So he had two touchdowns and I have no worries. I brought it up earlier, but the wind there was unfathomable. There was a play where Mahomes was rolling to his right and he threw the ball and it was, it looked like it had to be 10 yards. It should have been a pick. It was so far from where he was trying to throw the ball to and you know.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but I know why Mike's bringing it up. He's in New England next week, then he's Denver divisional game, possibly bad weather and then he's at Chicago. So the final three weeks of the season, you're leaning on, you know, say what you will last two weeks. 182, 175 yards, basically. I guess the question is, is there any situation that you're pivoting from Patrick Mahomes? Are you just going to put your future in his hands?

[Jason Moore]

Sure. If I've got Lamar Jackson, I'm pivoting. I am staying with Mahomes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike, did you have any thoughts there? I mean, I assume that's why you brought that.

[Mike Wright]

I just wanted. It just needs to be talked about that Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, I guess he did have the rush touchdown so his fantasy day was saved. But that's rough, man. We've had a back to back rough weeks from Patrick Mahomes.

[Andy Holloway]

Definitely not winning you those weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Beckham three for 29 on six targets. That's the eighth time this year that he's been outside the top 36. If you haven't adjusted your expectations by now, you're out of the playoffs. So you have plenty of time to do that.

[Jason Moore]

It's crazy how long it has taken the fantasy community to realize that Beckham is not a weekly must start guy. I mean, we have the evidence now. This is going the next two games. Sure, Cincinnati, Arizona, that you're going to play him. You're going to play him in Baltimore. You know, I'm not. I'll pivot.

[Mike Wright]

It's so compounded though, but the fact that Jarvis Landry is having a great year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because he's the number one wide receiver. I mean he's, he's the more. He's the first read. He's targeted better. He's got a better connection with Baker. Jarvis is a guy you should be playing every week and Odell Beckham is a guy you should be playing in the, in a good matchup. It's just, it's name lock. You know, we're just, we're just so enamored by what has happened in the past that we're not realizing what's happening now.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not wrong. DJ Chart could have been one of the most disappointing players of the entire week. And just 2 for 47 had to withstand the quarterback switch over.

[Mike Wright]

Don't worry, DJ Chark, you're. Maybe your huckleberry is coming back.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe. Maybe. Yes, maybe he's not. But any concern, any concern there for DJ Chark? Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, no, not, not, not a concern. Like I'm pulling DJ Chark out of my lineup. It sucks that he's going to play the Chargers and might get the Casey Hayward treatment, but I'm still playing him.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Mike Evans. We talked about Chris Godwin. Neither of them scored in this game. Winston didn't throw any touchdowns. Tyreek Hill, we just talked about the win, but he was 5 for 55. Yeah, that sounded more exciting than his fantasy totals. Just throwing that one up to the wind, too. You're going to play Tyreek going forward. What do you do with Brandon Cooks now? Because he hasn't performed since he's come back.

[Mike Wright]

He hasn't performed all year.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, if Arizona is not the salve for Brandon Cooks, then what is? He only had two targets, dude.

[Mike Wright]

Shark Tank.

[Andy Holloway]

19 targets for Robert Woods.

[Mike Wright]

I'm out.

[Andy Holloway]

Two targets for Brandon Cooks. You got to be done with them right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. I was going to say, I don't. I don't. You know. Do you bench him? Sure. Do you cut him? Sure. Like, I don't. I don't think he's a must bench I think he's a guy that should be. I mean, if. If he was out there on the waivers right now, and I'm looking at different options, he might not be the guy I pick up to play on a weekly basis. I might have more confidence in, you know, if Robbie Anderson's on the waivers, I'm picking up Robbie Anderson over. Over Brandon Cooks. The matchup against Seattle this coming week is fine, but then after that, I mean, if you. If you don't want to trust Goff, you don't want to trust his third wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's pretty definitive. That's what he is right now. What. What do you do with Terry McLaurin? Two for eight you on four targets. I mean, if you're talking about rostering somebody, would you rather roster cooks and McLaurin?

[Jason Moore]

That's a. That's a mean question. That's really mean question. Yes. It hurts.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't ask it.

[Jason Moore]

It hurts in my belly. I would Rather roster Terry McLaurin and I just hope that case Kingdom comes back.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not.

[Mike Wright]

It's not happening, though.

[Jason Moore]

But injury.

[Mike Wright]

They've won. They've won two straight games.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's not real. I disagree with real facts.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, guys. Sammy Watkins Goose. Three targets, zero catches. McCoy Hardman had zero targets. So this was 15 total completions by Mahomes on the entire day. But the nice thing is, as you know, you shouldn't play Watkins.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that is. It's nice in this day and age to have. Have that kind of true confidence. I was a, you know, a Watkins truther. And if I have moved on weeks ago, then everyone should have moved on.

[Mike Wright]

Well, his powers were stolen by the. The Lazard King. The Lazard King came through with a big performance. He took everything.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Mike, the false pretense you can't have powers stolen that you never had.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, fair enough.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, real quick, I just want to give you two different lines.

[Mike Wright]

Okay?

[Jason Moore]

All right. One is 198 yards and three touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, is that one game?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take it.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, the second is 340 yards and no touchdowns. That is nine games. In nine games he has.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you talking about Sammy?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. He has 42 more yards total in the nine games combined than he had in week one.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, oh, so he was reading.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no.

[Mike Wright]

Read those two numbers again, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I'm worried. 100. Okay. 100. Week one. 198 yards, three touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. The next nine games combined, right? No touchdowns. 340 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so 142.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. 142 more yards in nine total games than in one week.

[Mike Wright]

It's still ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Jameson Crowder looked like a player you could count on two weeks ago. This week, he had nine targets, and he ended up with eight total yards. That's a record. What do you do with him now? You guys are going back to the well with Darnold next week against Miami. You got to go back to the well with Crowder.

[Jason Moore]

I.

[Andy Holloway]

Big game from Robbie Anderson. 100 yards.

[Jason Moore]

You do go back to the well with Jameson Crowder.

[Mike Wright]

It's Highlander situation. And for the New York jets wide.

[Jason Moore]

Receivers, there can only be one. Yes, I, you know, look, against Miami, if. If the weather is good and I.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I. Robbie Anderson or Jameson Crowder next week.

[Mike Wright]

Robbie.

[Jason Moore]

Robbie. If I have to choose one. But I think you can play both. I mean, I'm not in on Darnold.

[Andy Holloway]

But that's a switch. I mean, last week when we asked the question, it was Crowder, then Demarius.

[Mike Wright]

It's still nine targets, right?

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, more like fart. Darn.

[Jason Moore]

I was right there with you. I get it, and I like it. Fart gets.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I wouldn't be there. This is the end of the show. You're starting to. You remember the stench of the watching Darnold, who you started in your league of records.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Over Carson Wentz.

[Jason Moore]

Shut up. I don't. The pain is too fresh. Oh, my goodness. And look, I wasn't alone. I asked everybody that I know.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you were full tilt. You spent the whole week talking about how good Carson Wentz is going to do, and then you played Sam Darnold. Shut up.

[Jason Moore]

Shut up.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Emmanuel Sanders, 4 for 41. I said I wouldn't play him in this game. I mean, right now, you just. You can't.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think you could play him in just about any game unless you expect a huge shootout solely because the emergence of Debo, the health of Kittle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And the low passing volume. I don't really want to start either of those guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Obviously, that's the equation.

[Jason Moore]

If you started Debo, you were. You were happy. But I don't think the process was correct to start Debo on that insane.

[Mike Wright]

Off pass interference where Debo looked around and couldn't believe they didn't flag him.

[Jason Moore]

For the play when the offensive player is waiting for obvious flag.

[Andy Holloway]

Hunter Henry, George Kittle, Zach Ertz, and Ryan Griffin all put up stinkers this week at tight end. Kittle, Henry. Those were the most disappointing. Kittle only two for 17. Hunter Henry two for 10. Henry had been the number one tight end since he returned from injury. I just play him again. I mean, yeah, all those guys you just play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you do. Ertz. All right. Me?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he was, he was dealing. Ertz is dealing with the hammy.

[Mike Wright]

It seemed like he wasn't even going to play all week long until Sunday morning. Everything was trending towards Zach. Ertz was, was going to be out. He still played on about 75% of the snaps. So he, and he almost had just didn't work.

[Jason Moore]

He almost had two different touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

One was a drop and one was a drop.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the drops that get you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Mike Wright]

See you tomorrow.

[Jason Moore]

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