Week 13 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, #TakeLock

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Week 13 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, #TakeLock
Release Date: November 26, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Introduction and Week 13 Overview

The hosts kick off the episode by discussing the aftermath of Week 12, specifically highlighting Lamar Jackson's stellar performance for the Baltimore Ravens. Jason Moore remarks, “It’s incredible that a team can run for whatever it was, 7 to 9 yards at carry when the opposing defense knows you’re going to run on every play” (02:02).

Andy Holloway emphasizes Lamar Jackson's value in fantasy leagues, stating, “I’ve never seen a Lamar Jackson roster that is struggling in fantasy right now because he’s the exact golden chip you look for in a draft” (02:02). The conversation also touches on other key players like Mark Ingram and the struggles of the Rams’ offense.

2. Analyzing the Rams' Performance

The Rams' offensive struggles are dissected, with Mike Wright noting, “Mark Ingram was 15 for 111 in a rushing touchdown. He also caught a touchdown as well” (03:16). The hosts discuss Jared Goff’s difficulties against tough defenses and the impact of player trades on the team's performance. Andy Holloway shares his confidence in trusting Sean McVay despite the offensive line issues, saying, “I actively consciously remember making the decision to trust McVay over the problems” (06:44).

3. Waiver Wire Strategies

The trio delves into waiver wire pickups essential for Week 13, with a focus on maximizing weekly matchups. They discuss the importance of dropping underperforming wide receivers like Juju Smith-Schuster and Mike Williams, suggesting they are "officially streaming options" (16:22).

Jason Moore highlights promising wide receivers such as Robbie Anderson, whose upcoming games against Cincinnati present favorable matchups. He states, “Robbie Anderson is very, very interesting” (21:15). Andy Holloway adds Sterling Shepard as a valuable pickup despite concussion concerns, emphasizing his consistent target volume (19:40).

4. Running Back Contemplations

The running back position is scrutinized, particularly the dilemma surrounding David Montgomery. Jason Moore criticizes Montgomery’s inconsistent performance, advocating for dropping him in favor of more reliable options like Benny Snell or Rashad Penny. He advises, “Benny Snell, I'm very confident he has a huge workload this week” (26:00).

Mike Wright supports the decision to drop Montgomery, likening him to “Caleb Lodge,” a clearly underperforming option (33:35). The hosts discuss the potential of Rashad Penny taking over as the Seahawks’ primary back, citing his explosive performances as a compelling reason to prioritize him (32:15).

5. Tight End Tactics

Tight end options are explored, with a consensus that Jacob Hollister is worth holding onto despite a disappointing Week 13 performance. Mike Wright points out, “The tight end landscape is gross,” but agrees Hollister remains a solid option (38:13). The hosts debate the viability of other tight ends like Jack Doyle and Noah Fant, ultimately recommending Hollister and Griffin over less consistent alternatives (43:05).

Andy Holloway emphasizes the importance of consistency at the tight end position, advising against frequent dropping after bad performances: “If you go dropping after every bad tight end game, you’re not getting those follow-up decent games” (39:12).

6. Streaming Quarterbacks

Quarterback streaming is a significant focus, with the hosts evaluating options like Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, Ryan Tannehill, and Sam Darnold. Jason Moore advocates for utilizing Jared Goff against Arizona, highlighting his favorable matchup: “I just don’t understand how that doesn’t happen” (44:02).

Andy Holloway discusses the potential of streaming Carson Wentz, especially if key players like Alshon Jeffrey return: “If Alshon is back and Lane Johnson is there to help protect him against the Dolphins, I do think that you’re going to be absolutely fine” (47:22). The conversation also touches on the reliability of Ryan Tannehill, who has consistently scored over 24 fantasy points per game.

7. Defensive Streaming Options

Defensive teams are analyzed for streaming potential, with a strong recommendation for the Philadelphia Eagles’ defense due to their favorable schedule and ability to create turnovers. Jason Moore notes, “They have an opportunity to win that division” (52:51). Andy Holloway also suggests the Green Bay Packers’ defense against the Giants as a viable streaming option, emphasizing their solid pass defense (54:02).

8. Mailbag and Listener Questions

In the mailbag segment, listeners posed questions regarding specific player choices and streaming strategies. A notable discussion revolves around trusting Josh Allen in the fantasy playoffs against tough defenses like Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Andy Holloway advises caution, stating, “You need big scores to win a championship” (61:19). However, Jason Moore and Mike Wright express varying levels of trust in Allen’s consistency and potential.

9. Concluding Thoughts

The episode wraps up with the hosts reiterating the importance of strategic streaming and waiver wire pickups to secure playoff positions. They emphasize staying informed and flexible with roster decisions to adapt to weekly matchups and player performances.

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore: “If you have Lamar Jackson, you’re doing well” (02:02)
• Andy Holloway: “These could be real, real problems. But I’m going to trust that Sean McVay” (06:44)
• Mike Wright: “Benny Snell, I’m very confident he has a huge workload this week” (26:00)
• Andy Holloway: “If you go dropping after every bad tight end game, you’re not getting those follow-up decent games” (39:12)
• Jason Moore: “I just don’t understand how that doesn’t happen” (44:02)
• Andy Holloway: “You need big scores to win a championship” (61:19)

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Timestamp Guide:

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Note: This summary excludes advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content segments to focus solely on the valuable fantasy football insights provided by the hosts.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, what's up?

[Jason Moore]

This is Justice Hill from the Baltimore Ravens and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in. Excited to be with you. It's Tuesday, November 26th. It's Megalodon Eve.

[Andy Holloway]

I gotta get to bed early tonight to have energy for Megalodon tomorrow.

[Jason Moore]

You kind of trailed off at the end.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was running out of steam. Pretty tired today. Really need to get to bed early.

[Jason Moore]

Right after the show. Jay, you can go go down. Welcome in Waiver show today. Getting into week 13, hopefully you had a successful week 12, aka you had Lamar Jackson on your roster. Hard to put into words how impressive that performance was last night. Finally there was a chance to go 7 for 7 on touchdown drives when he was finally stopped from his absolute takeover of the Rams and the league. It's incredible that a team can run for whatever it was, 7 to 9 yards at carry when the opposing defense knows you're going to run on every play. That can't feel good, especially at Wade Phillips. Age can't feel good. But impressive performance last night. What were your takeaways from that game, man?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you've got obvious takeaways on both sides of the ball that are completely opposite. Right. How the struggles of the Rams offense and the incredible fantasy relevance of the Baltimore Ravens offense. I guess you start with Baltimore side Lamar Jackson. Right now. Everybody who has Lamar Jackson is playoff bound. Right. I've never, I'm yet to see a Lamar Jackson roster that is struggling in fantasy right now because he's the, he's the exact golden chip that you look for in a draft. He was a late round guy. You weren't paying up for Pat Mahomes. You go, oh, well, I thought quarterbacks don't know, grab the late quarterback that's going to explode. And if you've got Lamar Jackson, you're doing well. And his playoff schedule in weeks 15 and 16 are juicy, ridiculous. Was it the jets and Cleveland? Cleveland, fantastic. So you're happy if you've got Lamar Jackson. Obviously. Marquis Hollywood Brown looked like he's going to be the real deal going forward. He's recovered from his ankle injury that's been keeping him off the field a lot over the last month. Mark Ingram, the running game, I mean, what really sneed.

[Mike Wright]

Mark Ingram was 15 for 111 in a rushing touchdown. He also caught a touchdown as well.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then on the other side six carries for Todd Gurley, Robert Woods, 22 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, except you got to take three of those yards away because I believe he had negative three receiving yards. So that's good.

[Mike Wright]

That's true.

[Jason Moore]

It. You know, before the show, Al Borland was talking about one of his leagues, how he has Brandon Cooks, Robert woods and Cooper cup all on one roster.

[Mike Wright]

That seemed like it was going to work out.

[Jason Moore]

It did. And one of the things we were saying before the show was just the idea that, look, normally you're not prescribing the acquisition of three wide receivers on one roster. There is one way that that works and that works. If you have the best or a top three offense in football, the yards are coming. Offense and the touchdowns are coming.

[Andy Holloway]

The fantasy points are.

[Jason Moore]

But that was last year. I mean, that's what you had last year. I believe It's. It was one calendar year from the 54, 51 Monday Night Football Rams over Chiefs extravaganza. And yeah, it's autopilot then with those players. Now you're distributing 212 passing yards across three players.

[Mike Wright]

It looks so difficult to like everything. It felt like every pass that Jared Goff had to complete, I mean, aside from garbage time, it just. It was an uphill struggle for him to find someone over without taking a hit. Like we're talking about fantasy implications of. I would be just as excited if I have the Baltimore Ravens DST because they are absolutely manhandling people and their offense puts that other offense in a really terrible position, which, I mean, that's exactly what you want. You want your defense with a lead so they can go get sacks, create turnovers. The Baltimore Ravens, that 15 and 16, the jets and the Cleveland Browns. Absolutely. The Ravens DST will be just as responsible for championships, in my opinion, as Lamar Jackson.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that a future stack that we should be considering, quarterback and defense like the same team's quarterback? Because it's like one gets you up sometimes.

[Mike Wright]

I would not have done that with Mahomes and Kansas City last year.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair.

[Jason Moore]

There's just so much, so many more intricacies with what that represents, you can get. I mean, the Chiefs have been ahead of people for two straight seasons, but if you don't have a pass rush or if you can't get there, it doesn't equate to fantasy value.

[Mike Wright]

And the Rams traded away Marcus Peters for peanuts and then paid in the iron price to get Jalen Ramsey. Marcus Peters is playing freaking great and Jalen Ramsey is tilting, trying to fight fans in the stands.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was not. It was not a good day for the rings. The one thing I do say, though.

[Jason Moore]

They'Re now six and five.

[Andy Holloway]

I want. They are six and six, I believe. 12 weeks, maybe they've had a bye. You are probably right.

[Mike Wright]

In fact, everybody has had a bye week.

[Andy Holloway]

So the one thing I do want to remember because I. I like to.

[Jason Moore]

Hear work through it all audibly, though.

[Mike Wright]

That's good.

[Jason Moore]

You did make me question myself for a moment.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm thinking of fantasy records, right?

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy records. You'd be six and six.

[Jason Moore]

Or if the Rams go to Arizona next week, Arizona off the buy. It's going to be an interesting game.

[Andy Holloway]

So I remember in the off season we talked a lot about the Rams losses on the offensive line. And I actively consciously remember making the decision to trust McVay over the problems. And I believe I said that on the show is like, these could be real, real problems. But I'm going to trust that Sean McVeigh, who at that time had only shown us an ability to overcome whatever scheme problems, whatever issues, minus the super bowl, minus one game, two games, if you include the Bears. But yes, and I made that choice. And it's just one of those things for, you know, future fantasy decisions in the off season when you see devastating losses to offensive lines, this, I mean, that really matters. You can't just overcoach a terrible offensive line.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, golf had a handful of really good throws, darts, and they all came with a clean pocket and set feet and driving the ball downfield. This is not the same Rams. You cannot move forward in your fantasy decision making on the concept that this will be the week they'll become the old rams because we're 12 weeks in, except for this.

[Mike Wright]

But granted, this week is pretty nice.

[Jason Moore]

It's pretty nice. But I think maybe the ceiling isn't the ceiling anymore is the point. You can always, always make streaming decisions and start decisions based on situation. But you follow us on Twitter, follow Mike at FF Hitman. Jason is at Jason FFL. I'm at Andy Holloway. The show is at the FFballers. So much to get into. The Megalodon is tomorrow. You do not want to miss it. It is a smorgasbord of sorts. What is that? The. The Thanksgiving Day thing that sits on the table that you see in all the pictures?

[Mike Wright]

It's corn something.

[Jason Moore]

It's a corn song. It's just shoots.

[Andy Holloway]

Cap. I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

[Jason Moore]

Judge Giamatti, do you know what I'm talking Cornucopia Cornucopia.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

All I could think of was Capricorn and I kn. That was not correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Corn on the cob.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Corn on the cop.

[Andy Holloway]

Ya.

[Jason Moore]

I was gonna say it's like it's the cornucopia. Cornucopia of your week, but it's really. That's really not a phrase.

[Mike Wright]

Do people still have those?

[Jason Moore]

Well, I don't. I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Do people ever have those? Except for in pictures.

[Jason Moore]

Is that just a, like a tube that you put like squash into? I mean, that's what I'm picturing it.

[Mike Wright]

And who eats squash you don't like?

[Andy Holloway]

Some bad people.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, you both hate squash?

[Andy Holloway]

Bad people eat squash.

[Jason Moore]

Now, does that go for the, like the marshmallow yams? You're out on those?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm out on all. Sweet. That's all squash.

[Jason Moore]

That's a super wrong take.

[Andy Holloway]

No, two on one George Giamatti.

[Jason Moore]

Are you guys cool with the marshmallow yams? No, I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

Good man.

[Mike Wright]

Cornucopia.

[Jason Moore]

You're more of a cheese sandwich for Thanksgiving guy. Yeah. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I can't wait for Jack in the box. A symbol of plenty consisting of a goat's horn overflowing with flowers, fruit and corn.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's tomorrow's show. It's an overflowing goat's horn of information.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. So you'll want to get good sleep tonight. It's not just us that need to get to bed early. You need to prepare your body, soul and spirit.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. Wake up, have a nice breakfast, stretch your ears out.

[Andy Holloway]

Definitely start the day off with coffee. You're going to need it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The episode will likely come out just a bit later than it's been coming out because we'll be recording it. We'll be recording it during that time. All right, let's get into some news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league presented by Sleeper.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome back, Andy Dalton. Dalton, to start week 13.

[Andy Holloway]

I love it.

[Jason Moore]

Now that they've established first round pick, I mean, number one pick, we need.

[Mike Wright]

To see what we have in Ryan Finley. We've seen enough.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, for sure. And now it's like, okay, we've pretty much got that number one locked up. Our new goal is one win. We don't want to go winless. So, Dalton, you're back in.

[Jason Moore]

It's 100% what it is. Yes. AJ Green still day to day. Probably going to stay that way. I doubt he plays Frank Reich. Confirming that Marlon Mack will not play in week 13. Jonathan Williams will get another shot. I does. I firmly believe that'll be his opportunity.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, 100% agree.

[Mike Wright]

I believe he plays Tennessee, though. So the match.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, I'm going to play him. I'm just saying if you're expecting Jonathan Williams to come out for his third 100 yard rushing game, I think that's a mistake to expect that.

[Jason Moore]

James Conner says it'll be a little longer before he's ready to play Benny Snell. You need to add him.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Benny Snell with what, 60, 70% of.

[Andy Holloway]

Rushing attempts last week, over 20 carries, almost 100 yards. You gotta add Benny Snell.

[Jason Moore]

Andy Reid says he is optimistic about Tyreek Hill coming back in Week 13 against the Raiders. LaShawn McCoy also not in the league's concussion protocol.

[Andy Holloway]

We do not have any update on Damian Williams that I've seen yet. The update will come today. The only day that they were in there with media access. They were not asked about Damian Williams, but remember, he injured his ribs in the last game. I would assume, just based on the timeline and the injury that he would be good to go, but that is worth noting. This is the waiver wire show, so maybe if Shady is out on waivers or Damian Williams or Darrell Williams, you take a look.

[Jason Moore]

All right. We don't know whether David and Joku will be active. It's too early to say. According to Freddy Kitchens. I've been down this road before. It was called Chris Herndon. It was called Chris Herndon. Hey, this was unfortunate. Hunter Renfro broke a rib, punctured his lung. Do we know what the long term prognosis here is, Mike? Some talk about him not playing the rest of the season.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I can't imagine he will be back for. He'll be on ir, but he. I mean, long term he'll be fine. He'll. He'll recover from this.

[Andy Holloway]

But not expected to practice today.

[Jason Moore]

And then Chase Edmonds will play in week 13.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, boy.

[Jason Moore]

It's one of the reasons we said you could drop David Johnson if you needed to. Not a boy, not a must drop. But you can drop.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. This is where David Johnson comes out after the buy. He's fully healthy.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, this. This is a mess. Now, if you had. If all three are active and ready to go. Is it still Kenyan Drake?

[Jason Moore]

Yep, it is. I mean, if you're choosing between the three, it is for me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. If you're making a fantasy, I'm just. If you're making a fantasy choice right now, you. I would go With Kenyan Drake, the guy who's been the starter. He's been doing. Playing very well. Just saying it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I would.

[Mike Wright]

I think it gets messy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would wince. I would wince during the selection process. I would probably wrinkle my face a bit. It won't be great. And then Devonta Freeman is going to resume practicing. They do play on Thursday, right, Brooks? Yes, sir. Which the international sound of a Thursday is. Well, this Thursday, the gobble.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

News notes is always brought to you by the sleeper app. Go ahead and grab it. Don't miss any of the latest fantasy football news. Let's get into some very important waiver discussion.

[Andy Holloway]

Put me in, coach.

[Jason Moore]

All right. We are past trade deadlines. We are nearly into the fantasy playoffs. For many of you, this will be your final opportunity to secure a spot on your journey for a Foot Clan title. Now, some of the questions that you have aren't just going to be who to sign. There's going to be who to drop. And so we have been conscientious of that and you know, put the word out on socials some of your bigger drop candidates willingness to drop them. So let's go ahead and get into the wide receiver position. Everybody's through the buy now. Let's get into the probably own but need to check category. If for some reason devonte Parker is out there, his schedule is juicy.

[Mike Wright]

Also, if he is, shame on you because We've been saying Devonte Parker for about six straight weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The 25% of leagues are the 25% that don't listen to the fantasy footballers.

[Jason Moore]

I'd be pretty content with 75% of people listening to the show. That'd be great.

[Andy Holloway]

We are.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think we're there.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's not. Of all. You just need one from every league. Right. One from 75% of leagues would qualify.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's true. That's true.

[Andy Holloway]

Tell your friends, tell your leaguemates, Challenge yourself.

[Jason Moore]

Other players to look at Debo Samuel. Three straight games of high quality performances. He does have Baltimore this week. But I don't know, there's some other players that you probably would rather. You'd probably rather Ross or Debo than Juju Smith Schuster.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yeah. Juju.

[Andy Holloway]

Juju.

[Mike Wright]

You can drop.

[Jason Moore]

What about Mike Williams? I think you dropped Mike Williams now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm perfectly fine dropping him. He gets to take on Denver this week, which is not the best matchup. He just, he's not coming through that. Those 10 touchdowns of last year are in the distant mirror.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Williams, the mirror so far away. Juju Smith, have you ever tried to.

[Mike Wright]

Look in a mirror that's far away?

[Jason Moore]

No. You can't even see nothing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It's hard. It's like it's twice as far. You're twice as far.

[Mike Wright]

Objects as how much smaller.

[Jason Moore]

All I think of is Jurassic park when I see a mirror.

[Mike Wright]

When you see a mirror, all you.

[Jason Moore]

Think of is Jurassic Park. That's it.

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, all.

[Jason Moore]

When I hear that phrase, the objects in mirror. When you say that phrase, I just think about being eaten by a tiny.

[Andy Holloway]

Every morning I wake up, I look at myself.

[Mike Wright]

I was brushing my teeth and I was like, what would the Tyrannosaurus be doing right now?

[Andy Holloway]

Imagine if I was brushing my teeth and I was a T. Rex. I couldn't even reach my mouth.

[Jason Moore]

Spared no expense.

[Andy Holloway]

No arms. Yeah. Juju Smith Schuster, Mike Williams. I think these are guys that you don't need to drop. You can drop. They are officially streaming options. So in the right matchup, you stream them. I don't think either has a great matchup this week.

[Jason Moore]

Do you drop Brandon Cooks to sign devonte Parker or Debo Samuel?

[Andy Holloway]

Devonte Parker.

[Mike Wright]

Parker, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Debo Samuel.

[Mike Wright]

No, I can agree.

[Andy Holloway]

I would much rather have Cooks against Arizona than I would rather have Debo Samuel against Baltimore.

[Jason Moore]

Would you drop Brandon Cooks or any of the Rams wide receivers for handcuffing and things like that if you didn't think you were going to play them?

[Andy Holloway]

It's a tough week to say you're.

[Jason Moore]

Not going to play them because you're looking so micro. Right. You're looking at this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I'm looking at the fact that, like, you know, Jared Goff was horrendous and terrible and he's going to be dropped. If he was rostered and he was, he's out there on waivers and I would play him this week. You know, I made that mistake when he was terrible earlier in the year and then he was playing a hapless Atlanta Falcons defense and I didn't play him when he was great. I mean, the defense of the Cardinals won't be able to stop, you know.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

This matchup.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. We will have full stream ahead and our offense versus defense streamers later today. All right, Main waiver wire pickups, guys that are available that you can look to. And again, you're looking at that micro timeframe if you need a win. You got to look at this week's matchup. Russell Gage plays New Orleans. That's a Thanksgiving Day game. Last week he was 8 for 76 I imagine new Orleans is going to be scoring in this game against Atlanta. So I would imagine Russell gage pushes the 7 to 10 target range again. Do you believe that and does that make him a potential flex play on Thanksgiving?

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's a decent pickup on a short week. I haven't seen an update on Julio Jones.

[Mike Wright]

His he'll this is just vintage Julio Jones. This is what he does in this time of the year. He goes out. He unfortunately we didn't get the big game against Tampa Bay, but he gets banged up. He goes in and out of the lineup the entire game.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, if he's in and out of the lineup the entire game, then Russell Gage has momentary benefits.

[Mike Wright]

Just say like this is what Julio will do. He will play and be in and out of the matchup the whole week.

[Jason Moore]

Well, independent of Julio. Mike, are you looking at Gage this week against New Orleans?

[Mike Wright]

I mean it's tough because the Saints, they're very strange defense.

[Jason Moore]

They're a good defense but they are giving up a lot of points to slot wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

In the past couple weeks they've been giving up points to the wide receiver in general, mostly due to Marshawn Lattimore being out and you have to shuffle things around. So it'll depend on Lattimore's health.

[Andy Holloway]

For me, my favorite wide receiver pickup of of this week and it's not so much for the microcosm of a one week pickup, but I think he's just a really valuable player that wouldn't be on waivers if it wasn't for the concussion history he's been going through. Yeah, but it's Sterling Shepherd. Sterling Shepherd's available in half of the leagues out there. I mean he his last four games started, he's got nine targets in each of those games. Now this last week was he had nine targets, had 15 yards. But he has had plenty of valuable weeks this season when he's been in. It's hard to remember them because he's been out so much with concussion. He does carry that risk. But a guy who is essentially the 1A or 1B of an offense who has a very good schedule coming up after this week is shouldn't be on waivers. I'd rather have him than juju as an example.

[Jason Moore]

Philadelphia, Miami for the playoff weeks with Washington in week 17. Cole Beasley. I think some Cole Beasley truthers thought he was disrespected. I failed to mention him in the studs yesterday. He deserved it 6 for 76 and a touchdown on nine targets against Denver Bezels do you want to pick him up?

[Mike Wright]

Ultimate revenge game against Dallas. He gets to play Dallas with the spotlight on as. As an island game.

[Andy Holloway]

He's.

[Mike Wright]

He's a fine roll of the dice. He's actually had at least a handful of really, I imagine, really productive games.

[Jason Moore]

The games he's scored in. Has he had any fantasy productive games outside of the touchdown scoring?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, like, he's got a week of 4 for 74, 7 for 75, 4 for 83. Like, he. He's been very consistent. He hasn't had any explosive games. But I don't think you're. You're not expecting explosive scoring from Cole Beasley. You're just. You're hoping for a good PPR option.

[Andy Holloway]

Use your second flex to get you 10 points.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. Cole Beasley and Russell Gage are pretty close options for me.

[Jason Moore]

I'm very interested in Robbie Anderson for this week. He's about 50% owned. They play Cincinnati. You just watched James Washington, who may be in this category as well, you just watched him make DBs and safeties on Cincinnati look foolish. I like it because I think Andy Dalton is so far and away better than Ryan Finley and Tyler Boyd. We saw him reemerge last week, so Dalton should be able to do some things against this jets defense at home. So Robbie Anderson is very, very interesting. He has Miami the following week as well, and if someone let him go and gave up, you're not going to play him in Week 16 against Baltimore, but you like in these next two.

[Mike Wright]

I think he's a fine flex play this week with upside. And on top of that, just the jets offense and Sam Darnold in particular, they are. They're playing much better. I think Sam Darnold's coming off of three straight games as a top 12 quarterback, and part of that is for Rob because of Robbie Anderson.

[Jason Moore]

No question. No question.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there's. There's a couple more guys. This is a week where I feel like there are five or six decent pickups at wide receiver. None of them are so outlandishly above the others. Really depends if you're looking for a. A start this week. Robbie's great. Versus a Sterling Shepherd. If you're looking for a good piece and a deeper league, Sterling shepherd will be great.

[Mike Wright]

Jay, would you rather roster Sterling Shepard, who I'm not really excited to play him against Green Bay.

[Andy Holloway]

What if Golden Tate's out? Right now, he's in concussion protocol.

[Mike Wright]

It's far more interesting. But the Philadelphia matchup is not as juicy as it used to be. Early on in the year they're much healthier, their defense is playing much better. So would you, would you rather hold on to Sterling Shepard because we're looking at 14, 15 or would you go after AJ Brown for who gets. He gets to play Oakland and Houston in weeks 1415.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would still stick with the targets. I'm going with Sterling Shepard who's averaging, you know, nine targets a game versus the four targets. AJ Brown could clearly have the big blow up games. But I mean, look, the playoff schedule, if you're talking about being Eagles, Giants, Redskins, that's fantastic. If you're in week 17, it's the Eagles again. But you know, 14, 15, 16, it's pretty, pretty good schedule. But the other guys I wanted to bring up, McColl, Hardman, he is interesting to me always because you know, even if he's out there for 10 snaps, you could end up with a good game. If you go look at McColl Hardman's game log and just ask how often is he having a really decent fantasy game versus a bust. And he's got two, he's got two different games where he's negative. But in general he has had a lot of really good games. But then you throw in the factor of like, okay, the Colt, the Chiefs, they're optimistic that Tyree Kill is back. Well, that's great. But what if he's not or what if he is and then he pulls it again? I mean, there is an added level of benefit to having McCall Hardman, who is a obviously monstrous play and it's in a good matchup against Oakland. So he's one guy and the other guy wanted to bring up that would complete. Every wide receiver I care about this week is Nikhil Harry. Can I interest you?

[Jason Moore]

I have. No way. No way, no way. Zero.

[Andy Holloway]

Houston, Kansas City, Cincinnati, those are his next three games.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean you, you shouldn't. I think that that's one of those ones where you should be. I mean, why not say Jacoby Myers based on the fact that Philip Dorsey. I mean Myers had a. Plenty of targets in this game. Productive. It's just we need to hold our horses on Nikhil Harry. This has not been a. Tom Brady has not been putting together impressive passing performances outside of Julian Edelman. You haven't had consistency at the position. You don't know if Dorsett's coming back or he's not coming back. I, I have no interest. I mean he had one catch, it was a touchdown. But it was 1 for 10 on four targets. So at this point in the season, there's too much on the line for my fantasy team to put anything on to kill Harry.

[Andy Holloway]

What would it take to be in if he comes out this week and has, you know, seven for 92.

[Jason Moore]

Volume.

[Andy Holloway]

Touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Volume. Volume. It would do it. Yeah. Massive volume. But I would put my money on three or fewer catches in this week.

[Andy Holloway]

I will make a dollar bet. You said your money. I want a dollar right now. I got over three catches this week for a dollar for $1. High stakes if you're darn right. Cash, no checks, no personal money orders or anything of that nature. Randall.

[Jason Moore]

Randall Cobb has been really good and he's the only other name I want to bring up. He has Buffalo on Thanksgiving. He was 4 for 86 against New England last week. He seems to be establishing himself with Dak Prescott. And you know, we know that Amari can leave at any time. Do you have interest in Randall Cobb? I mean, I think he's a better play anytime, a lot of these guys.

[Mike Wright]

This week, anytime I can play someone over Amari Cooper from the same team. I like it.

[Andy Holloway]

So you'd play Randall Cobb over Cooper? Yeah. Look. Your point? Andy is right. He's got 307 yards in his previous three games. He's been playing very well. And I definitely believe that he's someone that should be rostered. My only worry with him is you've got a bad schedule here with Buffalo and Chicago.

[Jason Moore]

All these names. I'll bring up a few other drop candidates like Josh Gordon. You can move on from. Move on from Josh Gordon, very limited snap percentages. You can, you can move on from the Josh Reynolds that you might have been rostering some of these players if you don't need them this week. It's go time. You got to make the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

If you don't, you'll be.

[Jason Moore]

There's other cool things that you can check out.

[Andy Holloway]

Giant live foot clan only chat with tons of rooms. It's really cool.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So check that out. JoinTheFoot.com running back discussions and oh baby, tough decisions. You can't just dig in and play the same guys each and every week if they're not performing. And so you look the way of the. You know, I think one of the biggest discussions to be had on the drop consideration list is somebody like David Montgomery. Montgomery is the most enigmatic situation that a fantasy owner can face. Amazing matchup on Thanksgiving. So you imagine he's in your lineup this week, but the, the production from David Montgomery in this offense is so terrible. You have to start mentioning it in the context of Calum Balaj. You have to start mentioning it in the context of. It doesn't matter if you get a lot of snaps right now. No breakaway plays, no involvement in the passing game, no two minute drills. Tariq Cohen's out there on all of those. It is not a good situation in.

[Andy Holloway]

The last two weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Bum ankle to speak for.

[Andy Holloway]

To your point, Andy, this would be a 16 game pace of 216 carries. That's. That's okay.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take it for 424 yards.

[Mike Wright]

I reject that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. 1.96. That. That is very Calum Balajesque. The one difference is what Mike is saying, which is he has a bum ankle. The last two weeks. I mean, two weeks ago we weren't even sure he was going to play because the ankle roll happened in practice. So he was out there. Obviously looked very limited this past week against a bad Giants team. He still sucked. So at what point do you have the confidence, I mean this week do you say, well, his ankle's fully healed now I got to roll him back out there.

[Jason Moore]

It's not the ankle that's wrong, it's just not. His only productive games are the ones he's fallen into the end zone from the one yard line before the ankle. He was 17 for 60 against the 32nd ranked Detroit run defense. He did have. He has one big game.

[Mike Wright]

To be fair, that's way better than 14 for 31.

[Jason Moore]

Sure. 14 for 40 the week before.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You're not happy with any of that.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he has one big game this year in terms of yardage. Otherwise he's peaked at 67 rushing yards on the ground. 62, 67, 53, 25. All I'm saying is that more often than not you're buying a lie with David Montgomery. You're buying the preseason hype. You're buying Matt Nagy getting the offense running. And so like Benny Snell is in my lineup over David Montgomery.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Quickly this week. No doubt about it.

[Andy Holloway]

But the question is, do you drop him?

[Jason Moore]

That's right. And look at the upcoming schedule for David Montgomery to make that decision. You've got Detroit and if you don't play him, you've got Dallas, Green Bay, Kansas City.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Green Bay and Kansas City are pretty good for running back matchups. Dallas, they're okay. David Montgomery is a guy where I'm going to hold because while he hasn't been efficient, I mean, you've got 15 carries a week at running back and injuries and other considerations.

[Jason Moore]

Let's put it to the test though. Are you going to drop him for Benny Snell this week?

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather have Benny Snell than David Montgomery, so yes.

[Jason Moore]

Would you drop him for Rashad Penny?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Who just had 65% of the carries for Seattle.

[Andy Holloway]

Rashad Penny is a lot of people's number one waiver pickup this week. Makes a lot of sense. He had his breakout game. He had more carries this past week than Chris Carson did and he was explosive, looked great. Chris Carson had the double fumble rough. So maybe this is the week Rashad Penny takes over. I believe in what you said, Andy, yesterday, which is the Seahawks aren't just moving on from Chris Carson, the 9 and 2 Seahawks, who. Chris Carson has been the centerpiece of that offense, him and obviously Russell.

[Jason Moore]

The discussion there is. It's difficult because would you rather have potentially half of Seattle's offense or the majority of carries in Chicago?

[Andy Holloway]

That's fair. That's fair. Because when you say it like that, I'm an easy Seattle side.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and I also am looking at this from the context of do I want to win my league? What is my best shot of winning my league? Is it on the back of David Montgomery having An emergence. Or is it on the chance that Rashad Penny does? Because if Carson fumbles one more time.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, you got me. I'm Penny over Montgomery. Give me another name. Give me another name.

[Jason Moore]

Bo Scarborough.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, now I'm.

[Jason Moore]

Now I'm 18 for 98 last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And a fumble. Right.

[Jason Moore]

David Montgomery had dreams of being Bo Scarborough.

[Mike Wright]

I'll play Bo over David Montgomery.

[Jason Moore]

So would you drop Montgomery?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm on the drop Montgomery. Like it's David Montgomery right now is Caleb Lodge. And I am. And I am 100% I'm dropping Kaleb Lodge. If my opponent wants to pick up Bellange and play them against me, please, please do that.

[Jason Moore]

Caleb Bellaj is the dollar you drop out of your pocket and the person behind you says, did you. Is this yours? And you don't act like you know what he's talking about.

[Andy Holloway]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

I never had. I never had him on my team.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, don't spend it all in one place.

[Andy Holloway]

I still would prefer to not drop him in the sense that, you know, if I've got a, you know, a fifth wide receiver on my roster, that's maybe, you know, a chance of doing something. I would rather have the running back. But I totally get your point, and it's fair. And if you're out there and you're looking at your roster and you don't know who to drop and you feel like you need to pick someone up, but you feel like you can't drop David Montgomery, this conversation has led you to know you can drop David Montgomery.

[Jason Moore]

Now, Sonny, Michelle kind of reemerged last week. He had 20 carries. Was that a lot to do with the weather in your mind? Yeah, because James White hasn't been utilized. And yet, you know, it's always game script dependent. But 20 carries, 85 yards, 4.2 a carry, no touchdowns for Sony Michelle, is he somebody that you. He's got to be somebody you just hang on to.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think he is someone you hang on to because in a pinch, you can always start him.

[Jason Moore]

Or bad weather games are coming.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, more bad weather games are coming. And the reality is you talk about, well, David Montgomery has only had a good game when he's fallen into the end zone. And that you could say the same thing about Sony Michelle. The difference being Sony Michelle, probability, falling has a lot more odds of falling into the end zone. And it's one of those things where when you happen to get that game right. Sure. You put Sony out there.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe he's only scored in four games.

[Andy Holloway]

How many times has he scored though? I mean, because doesn't he have multiple touchdown games?

[Mike Wright]

He has the one week where he had the three touchdowns other than one touchdown against Washington, one against the jets and one against Miami.

[Jason Moore]

Just nice to see 20 carries. I mean, 20 carries this past week puts him in the not drop category for me, by the way. I mean, when you talk about these things, even conceding if you concede David Montgomery as a drop, that doesn't make it easy. That sucks.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Because he's had every opportunity here and this is where we're at. And now last week you had couple goal line opportunities. Not go his way too trubisky. Ran one in and just stinks. All right, other, other players, you know, if Jonathan Williams is out there, don't ignore him. My goodness, 26 for 104 last week.

[Mike Wright]

But Kansas City is the next big situation. They are a high priority for me actually with Damian Williams, we don't know what's happening. But if you saw the shot, he went down, he was writhing in pain. And Shady McCoy is the primary guy to pick up. But I am also very interested in Darrell Williams who has turned into a third down back for Kansas City. They get to play Oakland. The matchups after that are a bit more concerning. But if you're looking at this week, I'm very, very interested in picking up Shady.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I was going to say, how do you make that decision if you believe that Darrell Williams is the third down back? He also out carried LaShawn McCoy by four in the last game that they played. Who do you prioritize?

[Mike Wright]

It's still McCoy for me. McCoy also had. I mean, he had the fumble and he. And then he had the weird. Was he concussed? Was he not concussed? So he had his own injury things to deal with. But I like you prefer McCoy over.

[Jason Moore]

I do.

[Mike Wright]

I do prefer McCoy. But if Damian Williams is out this week, I'm very happy to play Darrell.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I prefer just throwing this since we're talking about the different waiver options. I like Benny Snell more than. More than either of those I'd rather have because I think, I mean, we've got to project this now. I think Damian Williams is probably involved. I think that it could go Shady's way. It could go Darrell Williams way even if Damian is out. So far this season, playing with Kansas City running backs has sucked for fantasy. That's not to say that Kansas City running backs haven't had good games. It's just you're not getting it right. So Benny Snell, I'm very confident he has a huge workload this week. Can Cleveland shut him down? Maybe, maybe not. I think Benny Snell's a guy I want to roll with.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's look at tight ends. Disappointing week for Jacob Hollister this past week. But he should be a player that you bring up in the hold on.

[Mike Wright]

To category and it should not have been disappointing. There was a play where Russell had rolled out to his right. Jacob Hollister was in fact building an entire Abercrombie in the end zone because there was no one around him.

[Jason Moore]

He had the boards out and everything.

[Mike Wright]

The frame was up. He was about to do the drywall like the sign guy was coming through. And then Russell Wilson airmailed him. Decided to throw the worst bats I've ever seen Russell Wilson throw. So Hollister is perfectly fine.

[Jason Moore]

Why in Seattle's offense was just a little out of sorts passing wise in this past week. Altogether, one catch for Tyler Lockett drops from Metcalf Hollister. You know, the tight end landscape is gross.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So Hollister bank on solid.

[Mike Wright]

It was just was a bad game.

[Jason Moore]

But I think that'll be the question because one of the things you can do so easily at the tight end position more than anywhere else is ping pong from bad week drop pickup. Bad week drop pickup. I think Hollister is worth the hold. It seems like we all agree on that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we all agree. If you go look at the consistency charts and switch it over to tight ends on the fantasy footballers.com, you'll see that there is a lot of back and forth with success. So if you're dropping after every bad tight end game, then you're not getting those follow up decent games. You got to stick with whoever has good quarterback play and has enough targets to be involved. Speaking of targets to be involved, what about Jack Doyle? Who outside of the goose, he's had some good weeks recently. Eric Ebron now is having both of his feet removed. So Jack Doyle's the primary tight end now, not. Not necessarily splitting those routes with Eric Ebron. Are you interested there?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

I mean I'm interested. I'm a realist though. This offense is predicated on the running game. So I am, I would be willing to throw him in there. He's in the category of like, all right, I'll take my shot this week. But the upside is not tremendous with a player of Jack Doyle's caliber. That's just, you know, I think I would probably end up in another boat I'd be, I'd play Noah Fant over, over Jack Doyle.

[Mike Wright]

I'm fine with no offense, but a guy like Darren Fells. Would you rather play Jack Doyle or Fells?

[Jason Moore]

That's, that's close. I mean that's a toss up because Fells has got to compete with Akins and you know, it's. Yeah, those are both options. I'm probably moving away from both of them. I'd rather, rather play some higher upside athletes than I would Jack Doyle personally. But he's, he's in that category. Kyle Rudolph, he.

[Mike Wright]

It's tough to have full confidence. I mean, Kyle Rudolph has been fantastic for fantasy purposes, but you can see a strong correlation. Adam Thielen's been out and that's when Kyle Rudolph has been producing, catching touchdowns with Adam Thielen. We expect him back this week. I haven't seen any news to the contrary that, that Minnesota is expecting Adam feeling to be back. That makes me far less confident in Kyle Rudolph. And I'm with you, Andy. Like Noah Fant is still very interesting to me. It was three for 14. That was against Buffalo. We talked about how that matchup has been horrifically bad for tight ends all year long and no offense is still getting targets. So I would hold on to Noah Fant much like I'm holding on.

[Jason Moore]

He's got a 25% target share since Sanders left.

[Mike Wright]

Much like I'm holding on to Jacob Hollister, I'm still holding on.

[Andy Holloway]

No fan now more than any of these guys.

[Jason Moore]

Ryan Griffin, well, sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Ryan Griffin is absolutely someone that should, should be rostered and in there, the schedule for Darnold, the Jets offense getting rolling. Ryan Griffin is absolutely in there. I would agree with that more than anyone other than Ryan Griffin that I think needs to be brought up because he had a horrendous game, but kind of not really. Is Dallas Goddard. Ah, yes. Dallas Goddard had eight targets again. Yeah. He ended up with 32 yards and a fumble. So for fantasy it was horrific.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

But the targets have been there. The offense is, you know, I think good enough. Especially this week against Miami where I would stay with Dallas Goddard. I'm not going to just be so mad at the bad fantasy week. This is that Hollister situation. You know, I would, I just believe that the talent, the targets, the matchup, they're all there for Dallas Goddard this week. And as I always say, you always have the potential when he's on your roster to end up with a super elite tight end. Should something happen to Zachary, I would.

[Mike Wright]

Order these Guys, Jacob Hollister. But again, he's probably not in your waiver wire pool. Then I would go Goddard, Griffin, Fant. Doyle of the guys we've been talking about.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would go Hollister, Griffin. Goddard, Fant.

[Mike Wright]

Griffin's matchups against the Bengals in Miami are pretty juicy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And he's less owned than Dallas Goddard now. I think both those guys are. They have the opportunity to be a focal point in these upcoming weeks. Anybody else you want to talk to a tight end?

[Mike Wright]

No, Please talk to.

[Jason Moore]

Talk about any of those things.

[Andy Holloway]

I would rather talk to them than talk about them.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Full stream ahead.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Quarterback streamer time. Boy, I've got two. Yeah, you have two streamers.

[Andy Holloway]

I have two streamers.

[Jason Moore]

All right, well, let me. Let me get this out of the way because it's not going to be easy to say, okay, my streaming quarterback is.

[Andy Holloway]

Jared.

[Jason Moore]

You know, part of streaming a quarterback is not burying your team, which has not been how you associate Jared Goff. But I don't know how he doesn't put up 20 fantasy points against Arizona this week. Arizona has given up the two greatest weeks for Jimmy Garoppolo. You have a healthy Robert Woods, Cooper cup, and Brandon Cooks. And the Cardinals couldn't guard one of them, much less all three. I just don't understand how that doesn't happen.

[Mike Wright]

There's only. There's only two weeks that the Cardinals have. Have not given up a top 10 option.

[Jason Moore]

It just makes Jared Goff a. Put them in your lineup. If you need a streamer, your opponent will think that you've done them a favor, and then Goff will have a good week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And look, Jimmy Smith, Marcus Peters. You know, there are so many great secondary players for the Ravens. That's what Jared Goff just played. There are not those for the Cardinals. And this is not going to be the same. This is not Andy saying the Rams are back and they're going to be this unbelievable offense. But the Cardinals can't stop what the Rams currently have as far as on that side of the ball. I'm going to follow that up with a very, very similar option. Someone that sucked this last week and has super disappointed this year was Carson Wentz. As one of my two. The. The Eagles dropped Jordan Matthews. This is a great indication that either Alshon Jeffrey and or Nelson Aguilar could both be back and healthy. And while the Eagles aren't what we hoped that they were, this is the Dolphins matchup and they're not going to have a bad offensive game. Assuming that Alshon. This is predicated on Alshon being back. But if Alshon is out there against the Dolphins with Lane Johnson back now, I believe that you're absolutely fine with Carson Wentz. So, yes, you can have the floor.

[Jason Moore]

Andy, I don't need the floor. I just need to talk to you as a friend. I would just be afraid. I would be a little.

[Andy Holloway]

You'd be more afraid of Winston. Of Goff.

[Jason Moore]

I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, tell me why.

[Jason Moore]

Because I don't want to mess with what I saw last week from Carson Wentz. You don't know Alshon's back. He's dealing with an injury to his hand, which could, you know, further complicate the potential. I just. I'm a little bit gun shy on that side. I have this decision to make in listener league, the Carson Wentz decision, and, you know, I would be trying to find another option until. Until I can't. Okay, well, I mean, are you. If Alshon's out, do you change your opinion?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

So just one player. One player makes it.

[Andy Holloway]

He needs. He needs a. Yeah, it's not. It's more than one player because you have secondary wide receivers already injured. You need a wide receiver. One, and he is that. So if Alshon is back and Lane Johnson is there to help protect him against the Dolphins, I do think that you're going to be absolutely fine. Now, the hand. The hand is legit, obviously, if Wince is missing practices, whatever. But I think Carson Wentz is fine. If you are opposed to that. My other streaming candidate.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I wouldn't play Wince.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're. You're both on the anti Wince.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Against Miami. This.

[Mike Wright]

This is an anti wins take, man. He's been horrifically bad.

[Andy Holloway]

I know he's been terrible, but look at the four matchups and then the fact that this weekend, no Lane Johnson, no Nelson Agler, no Alshon Jeffrey. I mean, what do you want? Winston?

[Jason Moore]

He still turned the ball over four times.

[Andy Holloway]

He's.

[Mike Wright]

And he's been in plus matchups before, earlier in the season and didn't get it done. He played Atlanta week two, when you could play literally anyone. You could play Jared Goff. Against Atlanta, he put up 231 and one with two interceptions against at that time, which was the worst pass defense in the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not saying he was.

[Andy Holloway]

He was the quarterback 10 that week. So look deeper because he had.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, he had a rushing touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. Which. Which really matters.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's a top 10 quarterback. That's a bad dig in, though, because we're not saying that he can't have a good weekend against Miami. I think we're saying where do you want to put the hopes and dreams of your season? Do you want to put it on maybe the worst quarterback performance of the week with a team that's dealing with injuries, four turnovers, a hurt hand. It's just risk aversion.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's not that he can't dominate Miami. It could happen, but he didn't dominate Atlanta. He finished 10th and he had to do a rushing. He had to have a rushing touchdown to get to 10. So it's just risk. You can do what you want.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. The hand is an issue if he's missing practice. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

But I believe told that hands are important for a quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. If. If.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

I've never been out there. I think that you can absolutely play him against the Miami Dolphins, who are the third worst against quarterback. Everybody has beat them. You know, that was Josh Allen's big monster game. Baker, how'd he look? Freaking fantastic. So that. That's my thought.

[Mike Wright]

On the other side, how does Brian Hoyer look?

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, fair.

[Jason Moore]

Was Baker targeting Jordan?

[Andy Holloway]

Brian Hoyer at a bad game?

[Mike Wright]

Well, Carson Wentz can't target Jordan.

[Andy Holloway]

Matthew? Yeah, Jordan Matthews. You mean the guy they just cut because the wide receivers are coming back?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, gosh.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you mean? That's what happened.

[Jason Moore]

It got so bad that they had to run Jordan Matthews out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. And now they said, oh, thank goodness, we can cut him. Not for no reason, but because the boys are back in town.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, give me a break.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about someone that maybe you'll agree with. I don't know. Ryan Tannehill, last week's unfortunately, number two quarterback. Thanks. Lamar has been great. In fact, little stat here from JJ Zachary, good friend of the show. Since Ryan Tannehill became the starter, here is a list of players who have averaged more fantasy points per game. Number one, Lamar Jackson. End of list. That it is Ryan Tannehill. He has not had, in six point scoring formats, less than 24 fantasy points in a game. I don't love the matchup here against Indianapolis, and I don't expect what we saw this last week to be in the realm of outcomes, as in like a number two quarterback. But I think he's pretty safe. He's got options.

[Jason Moore]

Ryan. Ryan Tannehill, I'm not going to disagree with you. He was my streamer before I changed him to golf, so I'm fully on board. What's interesting is he's averaging like 40 rushing yards a game, and he scored three times on the ground. So he gives you a little bit more of a baseline than you believe you have with the average quarterback. There's no reason you can't stream 10 a 100% on board with you there.

[Andy Holloway]

What if he breaks his hand?

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, I'll be a little more out.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, a little.

[Jason Moore]

Or if. How about this? You replace a little. Replace his left tackle and then all his receivers with like, Jordan Matthews. Then I'll be more out.

[Andy Holloway]

But that's my point. His left tackle is in it. Jordan Matthews is gone. We're speaking the same language, but not at all.

[Jason Moore]

Whenever you're on the razor's edge of playing a Jordan Matthews capable depth option as your focal point of an offense, you have risk. That's all we're saying. Do you acknowledge that there is tremendous risk? Carson Wentz.

[Andy Holloway]

Only with the hand.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, gosh, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Gonna watch him burn this week.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna play Sam Darnold.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Against the Bengals.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You have the best option.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Fuckland. We saved the best for last. If you have the choice between everyone mentioned, go Sam Darnold.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm going Sam Darnold. It has been turning it on lately. He's been a top option three weeks in a row. The Bengals really, really stink. So it's. This one's just easy. Sam Darnold is a great streamer this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Defense vs. Offense, presented by Head and Shoulders and Walmart.

[Jason Moore]

All right, defensive options. Here's where I can get behind an Eagle or a bunch of them. The defense last week for the Philadelphia Eagles deserved better than what they got from Carson Wentz. They played a very dangerous Seattle offense. They stifled Russell. They stifled Lockett. They are playing at a high level. They need a win. They have an opportunity to win that division. Still, their schedule is a cakewalk. Dallas's schedule is difficult. Philadelphia plays Miami. Turnovers opportunity. I'd play Philadelphia's defense. They're only 40% on. They're a great streaming option. This week.

[Mike Wright]

There's only.

[Andy Holloway]

Because Miami's so bad, there's.

[Mike Wright]

There's only one week that a defense.

[Jason Moore]

Wentz can play on the defense. That's fine.

[Mike Wright]

There's only one week. A defense against Miami has not been a top 12 option, and that's week 10, when the Colts were 13th. So yes. Ryan Fitzpatrick, is he like. He's playing fun football and pretty. Playing pretty decent, but he still gets sacked and turns the ball over my streamer. It's Carolina because they're playing Washington.

[Jason Moore]

Yours is my favorite of the whole week, man.

[Andy Holloway]

The best streamers today, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I told you he got him.

[Jason Moore]

In before we did.

[Mike Wright]

When you're the first one into the show, Doc, you get the best matchup.

[Jason Moore]

He left you with wins.

[Mike Wright]

And when I say Carolina is playing against Washington, let me clarify that. Carolina will be playing against Dwayne Haskins.

[Jason Moore]

That's, that's the whole clarification. Now, what if that's all that's needed?

[Andy Holloway]

What if they can't find him because he's off taking selfies in the crowd and then Case Keenum gets in.

[Mike Wright]

Honestly, 100%, if they, if they, if Washington came out and said Case Keenum is playing, I would be far more concerned about playing this Carolina defense.

[Andy Holloway]

You'd be out.

[Mike Wright]

But they're not. They're playing Dwayne Haskins. And Carolina is a great play this week.

[Jason Moore]

Haskins is just a sack absorber.

[Andy Holloway]

Is bad for me. My streaming candidate this week is going to be the Green Bay Packers. I like this one against the Giants. Look, Daniel Jones has had his big games, but he's also had plenty of bad games on, you know, the season. You go back to week five, there's only been one time that the Giants haven't given up a top 12 defense in that time. So it's a really good streaming matchup where you're going to get some turnovers.

[Mike Wright]

And Green Bay's defense is good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Especially their passing defense has been pretty good. And Saquon has just not been the sake one that, you know, you look at this matchup and go, well, maybe Saquon has this great game, but you've kind of been saying that for a while.

[Jason Moore]

It's true. It's true. Another little stat nugget that I heard from jj. If you take out the explosion, which is a, you know, whatever. If you take out Aaron Rodgers, One giant explosion against Oakland. Daniel Jones is a better fantasy quarterback on the year than Aaron Rodgers.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

What if you take out Daniel Jones's big explosion game?

[Jason Moore]

Like I said, it just one game made people start Aaron Rodgers for a bunch of other games. And I, I get it. He's Aaron Rodgers.

[Mike Wright]

But once again, I'm committed to this plan.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

You play Rogers the next two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

And then you, you drop. Oh, and then you write in, you write into the league chat, oh, no, I accidentally dropped Aaron Rodgers. Don't worry. Don't fix this mistake. But he's available.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Make sure everyone knows isn't Darnold. Another week 17 drop as well. Like you can ride D as a streamer heading into week 17.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not sure what I can.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, he does have his schedule. Gets worse. But, Mike, to correct. To correct you on telling the whole league that Aaron Rodgers is available. That's not what you want to do. Oh, you want to go to whoever your opponent is in that playoff? We can go. Oh, crap, man. I accidentally dropped Aaron Rodgers. What do I. You know? And that way he knows he or she.

[Mike Wright]

But. And then you go, oh, crap. I didn't mean to message you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Oh, shoot. This wasn't. I've been to talk to the commission.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

We got there.

[Jason Moore]

I would go the other route. I would just. I'd lean in. I'd be like, I'm dropping Aaron Rodgers. There's nothing you can do about it. He sucks. And then someone would. Would want to beat you with him.

[Mike Wright]

But to your point, Andy, week 15 and 16. Sam Darnold plays Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But Darnold gets the Bengals and the Dolphins. So he's a fine play for the next couple weeks.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we got a couple minutes. Let's hop into the mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

Mailbag.

[Mike Wright]

Mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

All right. You can visit the website, the fantasy footballers.com. you can click the Submit a question button to send us your question, or you can dial the voicemail hotline. 302464, TFFB. I just want. I want to say one more thing about Carson Wentz.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, good. Because that's all I want to talk.

[Jason Moore]

About, and that is that it is in no person's greater interest than mine.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

To support him.

[Mike Wright]

He did see the future.

[Jason Moore]

I love Carson Wentz. Heading into the year, he was one of my. My guys. His team has been decimated. I don't think Alshon fixes everything. I think it's a realism thing of knowing that I. 20 points for Carson Wentz this week is. Is fine. I mean, he can get there. But what about. This is like the golf situation with the Rams? The. The Eagles offense isn't what we thought it'd be, and the Rams offense isn't what we thought.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. But against Arizona, you could play. What about if he was playing the Giants?

[Jason Moore]

It depends on if his hand is hurt and he's got all his receivers and we've seen something.

[Andy Holloway]

What if he was playing the Redskins?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The next three weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, that's my point.

[Jason Moore]

Well, good.

[Andy Holloway]

Please, Carson, please, please, just get it back together.

[Jason Moore]

I think people need to understand why you're this passionate. What you want to tell them?

[Mike Wright]

We got take.

[Jason Moore]

You want to tell them why we've got a doctor Take lock.

[Andy Holloway]

Hold on. No, I don't take lock. I don't have take lock. Here's the truth. I have him in our league of record. I have held him for this time. I don't have take lock. I'm the one that benched Wentz to pick up Tannehill this last week. I wasn't sticking. If I had take lock, I would have lost last week and not. And kept rolling with Carson wins. But he didn't have Elshon. The weather was bad. He didn't have Lane Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

It's true. So in other words, just so that our listeners really understand, we've gotten a lot of feedback. They love hearing the ins and outs of our big leagues and what puts you on tilt and what gets you excited. Named Raheem Mostert. And you're basically saying, I mean, you've got Tannehill on your roster.

[Andy Holloway]

I've got Tannehill and wins.

[Jason Moore]

So you're going to play wins.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know yet, but stay tuned. I will be.

[Mike Wright]

I like that. The two streaming options of the quarterbacks he has.

[Andy Holloway]

That is Take Lock. Genuinely take lock.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Cole in East Lansing, Michigan. Given the state, he's going to be so tilted this week now, regardless, because this conversation is going to come into his mind when he makes this.

[Andy Holloway]

It's no matter what happens. The only way that things go well. The only way things go well for me is if I actually start Wentz and he completely balls out over Tannehill, then I'm happy. Every other situation that can possibly happen is now a negative.

[Jason Moore]

You're 100% right.

[Andy Holloway]

I hate this sport. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Take a.

[Andy Holloway]

It is a good bit.

[Jason Moore]

It's not bad. Cole, given the state of the season for the Falcons, do you go with Julio Jones this week or. I'm sorry, rest of season or Jarvis Landry? Rest of season. Wow, that is a really, really tough decision to. Man, that's hard.

[Mike Wright]

Cleveland's number one wide receiver or Atlanta's number one wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. Just to make the little OB Jab.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I like that.

[Jason Moore]

Let me. Let me give you some information here to make this decision. Jarvis Landry's last four weeks, 18, 7, 17, 2. That's his fantasy finishes.

[Andy Holloway]

Whereas Julio Jones is 32, 20, 30, and 6.

[Jason Moore]

And then he has New Orleans. I think that's what. Let's look at the schedule then. New Orleans, Carolina, San Francisco, Jacksonville.

[Andy Holloway]

That's Julio for Julio.

[Mike Wright]

So 50% of those I like.

[Jason Moore]

And then Jarvis Landry has Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Arizona, Baltimore.

[Mike Wright]

I like 50%.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go Julio.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to stay with Julio Jones.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go Julio Jones.

[Jason Moore]

All right. We worked our way through it.

[Mike Wright]

It's a tick lock. It's legitimately a fair question, though, because Jarvis Lander's been playing great.

[Jason Moore]

All right, here's another very difficult one from Jake in Seattle, State Farm. Hey, ballers, can I trust Josh Allen in my fantasy playoffs at Dallas? No, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, New England for the week 17?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't. I don't think that you want to trust him there. When you get into those weeks, right. Getting to the playoffs, Josh Allen is fine. He's going to be 20 points. But when you get to those weeks and you're in your semifinals and you're in your championship, you're playing against the best. You're playing against and you are the best. You need big scores to win a championship. You don't back your way into a championship. You can back your way into the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

I'm on the side of trusting him.

[Mike Wright]

So I think he's safe.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I think he's a QB5 on the year.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's got a high floor, but I just don't think against, you know, Pittsburgh, against New England.

[Jason Moore]

Well, let's put it to the test.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I know, because you're going to have to if you're going to not play him. Oh, Mike, you got it figured out.

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm just saying I tend to trust him. But week 16 in New England. No. No way.

[Jason Moore]

I agree with that this time. I agree. Yeah. I agree that you don't play him at New England. That seems like. That seems like a very foolish decision. But are you going. If you're not playing Josh Allen, you're pivoting to Streamerville.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

So then you're making the decision of, you know, am I going to get bigger upside from, you know, would you go Baker, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Arizona over Josh Allen? I think that's a fair debate.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

If he was available.

[Andy Holloway]

I think when I look at it, I'm going to be pairing multiple quarterbacks together. Instead of saying who's got the best schedule the rest of the way. I'm going to be looking for someone who's got the best schedule in, you know, if week 16. Maybe you stay with Josh Allen for the next couple weeks, you know, Dallas and maybe Baltimore. Baltimore is getting iffy, though. You Know, but you know you're going to pivot in week 16. If you get there, have your plans made. Now, how about Carson Wentz for the replacement?

[Jason Moore]

Carson Wentz, Miami, New York, Washington versus.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh Allen over the next three weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Tick lock. All right. Water bet.

[Mike Wright]

That's the best way to make a bet. Take on no. When you're just saying yeah. All right.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Thank you for tuning in today. Megalodon tomorrow.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, everyone. Everyone get a good night's sleep.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to bed right now.

[Mike Wright]

I'm talking to the listeners. Yeah. Make sure you're rested.

[Jason Moore]

Mm. Get your I want people. Look, I know normally people listen to podcasts in a certain way. We just got a review on itunes, which are. Thank you, Apple podcasts. Appreciate that. And it said, look, I love mowing the lawn now. I mow the lawn three times a week. I walk around listening to your show. I think that's great. And that's funny. And you've got your routines. You work out, you mow the lawn, you drive to work the Megalodon. You need to be sitting in a cozy chair. You need the fire going. You need some hot chocolate. You need to listen as though you're watching something.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You need to have a book in front of you that has ages. Or you could watch it on YouTube. That's a good point. Solid.

[Mike Wright]

Watch it like you listen to something on YouTube.com/the fantasy football.

[Jason Moore]

There's something about the transistor radio sitting in front of them that. That's what I was visualizing it.

[Andy Holloway]

I was visualizing an empty book where they're just staring at blank pages but listening and they're putting it to words. But YouTube is probably the best route.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Send us your pictures of sitting in a cozy chair with, like, a blanket on with an empty book as you listen. That'd be great. We want to thank our studio sponsor, Pristine Auction. We've got very wonderful Brooks also searching for the very 55 range product he failed. Kenny Golladay had a signed jersey.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

So if wins does poorly, I'm right. If he does well, he's my. My guy. Got it. Got it for you.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't stop.

[Mike Wright]

You no matter who you are. See you tomorrow, everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

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