Week 14 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, TNF Reactions - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/5

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Week 14 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, TNF Reactions
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright
Date: December 5, 2025

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Episode Overview

This week, Andy, Jason, and Mike dive deep into Week 14’s key fantasy matchups, starting with Thursday Night Football reactions and hitting critical news and injuries that will impact fantasy playoff pushes. The hosts provide candid takes on player performances, controversial fantasy decisions, and offer their signature humor—and a healthy dose of “Wheel of Shame.” Listen for actionable advice, heated debates, and some memorable moments on everything fantasy football.

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TNF Reactions – Lions vs. Steelers (Starts at 01:46)

• Game Recap: Detroit Lions win 44-30 over the Steelers, combining for 74 points in a frantic, high-scoring game.
• Notable Performances:
  • Jameer Gibbs: 3 touchdowns with 7 receptions.
  • Jameson Williams: 7 receptions for 96 yards, almost breaking one for a score.
  • Amon-Ra St. Brown: 6 for 92, played through injury.
  • Javonte Williams: Solid with 17 for 67 and a TD.
  • Notable Quote:
    “Somehow in a game with 74 points, there were only two passing touchdowns.” — Jason (03:01)
• Major Disappointments:
  • George Pickens: Just 5 for 37 on 9 targets despite Lamb's early exit.
    • “Pickens didn’t even try to come back to the ball… egregiously bad to me.” — Mike (05:30)
    • Pickens under scrutiny for effort, especially on a critical deep shot.

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Major Injury and Player News (Starts at 08:17)

• CeeDee Lamb: Left early with concussion; optimism he may return for fantasy playoffs.
• Tee Higgins: Full practice – trending towards return.
• Dalton Kincaid: Limited, added with knee issue.
• Chris Olave, Mike Evans: Limited practices.
• Jaden Daniels: Full practice, likely to return.
• Lamar Jackson: Sat out Thursday practice (stepped on) but expected to play; recent poor fantasy production a concern.
  • “These last couple of weeks, Lamar has been really, really bad for fantasy... if there are other good options, like Stafford, I’d do that.” — Andy (10:45)
• Marvin Harrison Jr.: Not practicing (updated later in show as OUT).
• Rams WR Devontae Adams: Limited in practice.

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Matchup Previews & Fantasy Analysis

Colts at Jaguars (Starts at 13:20)

• Both teams 8–4, pivotal division game.
• QB Debate: Trevor Lawrence (stream/start of the week)—but Andy prefers Lamar over Lawrence, despite concerns.
• RB: Jonathan Taylor a must-start if healthy. Travis Etienne's usage is a worry with Bash Altutin involved, but still a playable RB against a struggling Colts run defense.
• WR Debate: Brian Thomas Jr. polarizing; Andy would play Pittman, Sutton, and Alec Pierce over Thomas this week.
  • “I just don’t have any confidence at all in Brian Thomas Jr.” — Jason (20:40)
• Notable Trend:
  • “This is a great matchup to figure it out... they’re going to need to score.” — Andy (21:10)

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Ravens at Steelers (Starts at 26:01)

• Both teams 6–6, playoff implications abound.
• Lamar Jackson: Risky play in a tight, low-scoring divisional game.
• Derrick Henry: Mike & Jason bullish based on Steelers' weak run D:
  • “They’re 30th in fantasy points given up to running backs...” — Jason (27:08)
• Jaylen Warren: Must-play.
• Zay Flowers: Seen as flex/bench, too inconsistent; debate about ceilings:
  • “He hasn’t scored since week 1... has more catastrophic games than Zay Flowers.” — Mike (29:20)
• Steelers WRs: Passing offense extremely limited, no 250+ yard games all season.

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Broncos at Raiders (Starts at 32:14)

• Denver favoured (-7.5), over/under 40.
• Broncos’ recent wins all by very tight margins.
  • “That is the smallest margin of victory for any team in a four game win streak in NFL history.” — Jason (32:48)
• Receivers: Sutton is the only one you can trust; rest of WRs/TEs are “monitor only.”
• RB Jermaine Harvey: Analytics aren’t promising, but volume keeps him in low-end RB2/ flex consideration.

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Bears at Packers (Starts at 36:10)

• Green Bay favorited by 6.5 at home; cold-weather game (18 degrees)
• Jordan Love: Recent spike in play, but concerns about weather.
• Christian Watson: Target share climbing, possible start over Brian Thomas Jr.
• Josh Jacobs: Heavy workload, managers “micro-analyzing” his post-carry body language (04:18).
• TEs: Green Bay limits TEs recently (4.1 FPPG allowed last 6 weeks).

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Rams at Cardinals (Starts at 44:43)

• Big spread, Rams heavy favourites (+8.5); Cardinals officially ruled out Marvin Harrison Jr.
• For Rams:
  • Kyren Williams is a must-start; Blake Corum only in very deep leagues.
  • “Is Matthew Stafford your start of the week?” — Andy (46:56)
• For Cardinals:
  • Michael Wilson a good volume play (especially with Harrison out).
  • Trey McBride a smash start at TE, targets in the teens likely now.

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Chiefs at Texans (Starts at 47:51)

• Must-win for KC, favored by 3.5.
• Chiefs:
  • Travis Kelce needs to step up.
  • Rashi Rice viable, but rest of receiving options limited by Texans’ stingy D.
• Texans:
  • Nico Collins a must-play; top 10-12 WR upside even in difficult matchups.

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Eagles at Chargers (Monday Night) (Starts at 51:33)

• Eagles favored, but both offenses have stumbled post-bye.
• For Chargers:
  • Offensive line in shambles; Justin Herbert expected to play post-surgery.
  • WR Keenan Allen is the only confirmed, high-upside option.
• RB debate: RJ Harvey vs. Saquon Barkley (“Harvey for upside, Barkley for volume”)
• For Eagles: A.J. Brown, Devonta Smith must be played, but offensive struggles are real.

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Breaking News & Injury Updates (Starts at 55:41)

• Marvin Harrison Jr.: Officially OUT.
• Kyler Murray: Not expected to play again this season.
• Dalton Kincaid: Questionable for week 14.
• Trey Benson: OUT.
• Weather Impact: Cold/Freezing weather on its own is not a major concern absent wind, snow, rain.
  • “If there is not wind and there is not snow and rain, cold, freezing weather does not really have a big impact.” — Andy (56:21)

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Fantasy Face Off + Wheel of Shame (Starts at 57:37)

• This week’s “Shame” was Jason, donning a full Bob Ross getup—a recurring comic highlight.
• Hosts each draft Prize Picks props (all reviewed live; running backs, QBs, wide receivers, and tight ends).
  • Notable Projections/Props:
    • Jacoby Brissett (over 248.5 yards)
    • Josh Allen (over 19 completions)
    • Alec Pierce (over 2.5 receptions)
    • Bucky Irving (over 2.5 receptions)
    • Trey McBride (over 7.5 receptions)
• “This is so stupid.” — Mike, on the Wheel of Shame/Costumes (59:05)

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Memorable Quotes & Segments

• On George Pickens’ effort:
  “Pickens didn’t even try to come back to the ball… egregiously bad.” — Mike (05:30)
• On trusting Broncos WRs:
  “I don’t know who to play. 10 and 2. Congratulations. But I don't know who to play.” — Jason (34:40)
• Weather analysis:
  “If there is not wind and there is not snow and rain, cold, freezing weather does not really have a big impact.” — Andy (56:21)
• On Marvin Harrison Jr.'s struggles:
  “All year has been awful. I don’t have any confidence at all in Brian Thomas Jr.” — Jason (20:40)
• Comedy Highlight:
  “Spin the stupid, stupid, stupid wheel. And don't pick a mask that's gonna cut my face open." — Jason (58:12)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:46 — TNF reactions: Lions vs. Steelers
• 08:17 — News and notes, injury updates
• 13:20 — Colts at Jaguars preview
• 26:01 — Ravens at Steelers preview
• 32:14 — Broncos at Raiders, AFC West talk
• 36:10 — Bears at Packers, weather discussion
• 44:43 — Rams at Cardinals, big news on Harrison
• 47:51 — Chiefs at Texans, top defenses
• 51:33 — Eagles at Chargers (MNF), RB/WR questions
• 55:41 — News updates: Harrison, Kyler Murray, etc.
• 57:37 — Wheel of Shame & Fantasy Face Off

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Final Takeaways

• Don’t panic on big names after single bad weeks, but temper expectations with current injuries.
• Monitor news right up to kickoff, particularly for key players returning from injury (e.g., Tee Higgins, Dalton Kincaid).
• Weather concerns should focus on wind and precipitation, not just temperature.
• In flex/WR3 debates, the show emphasized recent trends and targets as critical tie-breakers.
• Fantasy managers facing playoff crunch time should play matchups, but not be afraid to pivot away from underperforming stars.

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For more detailed advice, start/sit debates, and signature Footballers' banter, tune in to the full episode or catch them live on Sunday for last-minute news!

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End of summary for “Week 14 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, TNF Reactions – Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/5”

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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Welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

Friday, December 5, 2025, the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, welcome in one and all.

The rest of the fantasy forecast. On today's show, we'll play a little fantasy Face Off. We'll talk some news and we'll recap what happened last night, which it got off to a little bit of a slower beginning and I started to wonder, oh boy, here we go. The big game everybody's asking for with the what, 53 and a half point over under. And you know what, if it was a 73 and a half, it would hit the over.

[Mike Wright]

I know, I know whose fault it was.

No, that was Almond Ross St. Brown's fault. He ruined the magic.

[Jason Moore]

You weren't content with 74 points.

[Mike Wright]

We had it going. Imagine if they started off hot. Imagine could have been 100.

[Jason Moore]

Look, look, it was, it was a surprise. I said earlier in the week, there is. He's like Baker Mayfield. Amon Ross is a tough guy. He's just so tough.

[Mike Wright]

And did you see the people are.

[Jason Moore]

Like, he'll be a decoy. I'm like, no, he won't.

[Mike Wright]

You see the note that he is like, yeah, he knew Wednesday.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Amara knew Wednesday was going to play him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Insiders, where you at?

[Jason Moore]

No, you don't get to.

[Mike Wright]

Where are you? Insiders.

[Jason Moore]

No, insiders with Sun Gods. I mean, 44 to 30, the Lions win somehow in a game with 74 points, there were only two passing touchdowns. But there's Jameer Gibbs. Three touchdowns, he caught seven passes. The leading receiver for the Lions, Jameson Williams, 7 for 96 inexplicably didn't score on an end around. Oh, man, I don't know how.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, lost his feet.

[Jason Moore]

He was coming around the edge and it was just a clear path. And then I'm in. Ross 6 for 92. There was Mike's mentions blowing up with the touchdown for Tesla.

[Mike Wright]

The Tesla touchdown was awesome. The missed touchdown on the right side where like the defender fell down and it's like Jared Goff.

How do you miss that throw?

[Jason Moore]

I think. How do you miss that throw? I think there's a good answer for that, which is that was pretty much a play made to throw the ball away. And by the time he was letting go, he didn't realize the guy fell down. I think it was just dad to stop the clock real quick, man. He was, I mean, he was wide open. It was. Even if you started Montgomery, who only had six carries on the game, you were fine. You're very happy. Javante Williams, you're happy.

[Mike Wright]

There was just one, just one disappointment.

[Jason Moore]

George Pickens.

[Mike Wright]

George Pickens, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

5 for 37 in a game in.

[Mike Wright]

Which CD Lamb, who got massive disappointment. Like the quarterbacks, it's salvage with 300 plus yards.

[Jason Moore]

You're okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Almost 700 passing yards, you're.

[Mike Wright]

You're okay. But when there's 70 plus points on the board, I get it. I could be. You could be a little frustrated. But George Pickens was the frustration of the night. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Even a tough Lions rush defense was very good. 67 yards and a touchdown on the ground.

[Jason Moore]

They basically had to go to Ryan flournoy, who had nine for 115 and a touchdown on 13 targets. Pickens only having nine targets in a game that CD Lamb was knocked out of. If you didn't watch it, CD Lamb, he was concussed.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The bad news, it's the week before fantasy playoffs. The good news, it's Thursday.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So you, you hope and pray and look, their season's on the line. He's also a pretty tough player. They're 6, 6 and 1. They're not out of it. They need him on the field. Especially if George Pickens is going to leave his brain at home.

[Mike Wright]

The picking stuff is. Honestly, it's very difficult for me because there was. He's getting just dogpiled on social media. Richard Sherman let him have it in terms of effort. And there were definitely plays where he especially late a deep shot that the ball was missed, thrown. But I mean it's like it's under thrown. It's a little bit to the right. But Pickens didn't even try to come back to the ball, which was. That one was like egregiously bad to me. But at this, at the same time, as soon as CD was out, it was just full double cover. George Pickens make Flournoy or whoever else beat us. Now, superstar wide receivers, this happens and you got to rise above it. So I'm not, I'm not letting George Pickens off the hook here at all for it. But it was, I think, a combination of factors and there's got to be stuff we don't know about.

[Jason Moore]

There is.

[Andy Holloway]

Like what he was doing last night. Maybe, maybe, maybe he's got the physical.

[Jason Moore]

Talent to be a premier, number one, highest paid record breaker.

[Mike Wright]

This is why he went in the second round of the NFL draft to begin with.

[Jason Moore]

It happened in Pittsburgh. The ones that bother me the most, it's not necessarily even that deep ball if he doesn't think he can get to it. It's just the plays that, you know, somebody like Amonara would never do, which is like giving up at the point of impact with the ball or not challenging. So you give up an interception, it just makes your. It makes your brain very confused because it's all out in front of him. He's been a dominant receiver almost all year long. And this contract that's on the table, maybe it'll just be a franchise tag for a year.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe. Maybe that was it. Maybe he got told this week we're going to franchise you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I. That was weird. CD Lamb, 6 for 121 before the injury, which was fortunate. And Javante 17 for 67 and 1. It's Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Okay, thank you, Mike. We'll get into the news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league, presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we already talked about CD Lamb, so let's talk about T. Higgins, who was upgraded to a full practice with the concussion. I thought it was a very good sign that he was limited on Wednesday.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, for sure.

[Jason Moore]

And it Seems like with the season on the line and a big game coming up for the next two weeks for Cincinnati, T. Higgins is on the path to return from a concussion. Dalton Kincaid remained limited on Thursday.

He was added to the injury report with a knee issue.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's not good.

[Jason Moore]

Like we are.

[Andy Holloway]

But he was still practicing.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe this is compensating for the hamstring. What's really tough here is I do have a bunch of leagues where I have, like, Dalton Kincaid and Kyle Pitts. And so you know Kyle Pitts, I think he's good this week. I think it's fine. But then Mike made Buffalo tight ends the start of the week as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Cincinnati did that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they really, honestly, I didn't do very much, guys.

[Jason Moore]

So there's part of me that wants to hedge in some leagues at least and have Dalton Kincaid in there.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you'll know the. The Bills are the morning game.

[Andy Holloway]

So, yeah, to me, if Kincaid is active, I'll. I'll play him over the pits tier play.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Olave returned to a limited practice with the back injury on Thursday. Alvin Camara not practicing. Mike Evans, Jalen McMillan still limited on Thursday. Jaden Daniels trending in the right direction to return this week. Well, this is going to mess up my price picks.

[Mike Wright]

Did you not see the Jaden practice full?

[Jason Moore]

I did. I just. I just didn't put the pieces together.

I might have had a Marcus Mariota.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe. We'll find out.

[Jason Moore]

Well, no one else in this office put it together either because I sent it to multiple people.

[Mike Wright]

Not me.

[Jason Moore]

I don't send my lineups to you.

[Mike Wright]

But also, if you had sent it.

[Jason Moore]

To me to the garbage, if you.

[Mike Wright]

Like it to me, I would say this looks incredible. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Great.

[Mike Wright]

You should definitely go forward with approval. Don't even think about it.

[Andy Holloway]

Ship it.

[Jason Moore]

This is Monday, right?

[Mike Wright]

Full send.

[Jason Moore]

It's a Monday game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Perfect. Let me get my phone out. Why don't you guys cover some of the news here?

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's see.

[Jason Moore]

Burn $25.

[Mike Wright]

We got injury updates.

[Andy Holloway]

Lamar.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Is the interesting one. He did not practice Thursday. He got stepped on in Wednesday's practice, but he's still expected to play. It was funny because it was reported all week. Like, hey, finally we're going to have a full week of practice for Lamar.

[Mike Wright]

These last couple weeks are Sunday. They were Monday last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You know, the last couple of weeks, Lamar has been really, really bad for fantasy. Not scoring like nine fantasy points and he has not been practicing in full. And this was like, oh, Good. Lamar's healthy. He's going to practice in full. He got stepped on, misses an entire practice. They're saying he's expected to play. I don't think it changes anything. We think he's banged up and you're rolling the dice when you start him. I still think you can. You know, to me he is like the quarterback. 10, 11 on a week where if there are other really good options, like I think Stafford is a good option this week, I would, I would do that.

[Mike Wright]

But Jacoby is the default.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Jacoby for sure. I would do Jacoby. But then, yeah, I'm still going to play Lamar. Over.

[Jason Moore]

Over.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not, I'm not going down to like a tier four quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Roma Dunes, they still sidelined on Thursday. A lot of people last night they were like, oh man, now that I'm not going to play to slaw, I got to play Rome. And I'm like, Rome's not playing, I think. And so third option or leave to slaw in there. Get some information. Marvin Harrison not practicing again on Thursday. Giving a little bit more and dorch of an upside for Michael Wilson. Yeah. And then Rams wide receiver Devonte Adams returned to a limited practice on Thursday. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy forecast presented by Prize Picks.

[Jason Moore]

Yesterday we covered the Seahawks, Falcons, Bengals, Bills, Titans, Browns, Commanders, Vikings, Dolphins, Jets, Saints and Buccaneers. Seven more to cover today.

Four of the seven matchups between teams with the exact same record. Oh, just kind of weird. Two palindrome games.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

Those are the best inverse records. They're not that great. And one featuring a current non playoff 10 seated AFC team called the Chiefs.

[Mike Wright]

Wow. So there you go, man. There. All these teams are going to figure it out.

[Andy Holloway]

I know we're still. Wait, we get closer and closer where now for the first time you go, well maybe there's a like the Bills.

[Mike Wright]

The Lions, the Chiefs.

[Andy Holloway]

But then in the end they're going to figure it out.

[Jason Moore]

We'll start with a same record matchup. It's we're here. I mean the Colts 8 and 4, Jacksonville 8 and 4.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh baby. Battle for the number one seed.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's a home game for Jacksonville, but they're not favored. Indianapolis minus one and a half on the road over under 47 and a half tied for the third highest of the week.

You know what, what I think is I think Jacksonville wins the ball game.

That's my opinion. With the injuries on the defensive side for Indianapolis, with the fact that Daniel Jones is playing through this injury, with the momentum that Jacksonville has built them at home, I do like them to win the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Sounds like an almost upset to me.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. I mean, one and a half points.

[Andy Holloway]

It just sounds like an upset to me.

[Jason Moore]

This is the kind of game, though, where you talk about Jacksonville in a positive light and they could beat 35 to 3. You know that that's kind of the way that it works with them sometimes. You know, the three division leaders right now, like, one of these teams is. Lee is going to lose the game because that's how games work. And that team might be tied with Houston at the end of the day because Houston 7 and 5, they've won four straight. Colts have lost two straight. Jacksonville's one three straight. Titans are apparently still in the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

You got Dunes there on the bottom.

[Jason Moore]

So, Jason, you know, Mike had. Trevor Lawrence has started the week. You feel as confident as he does.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he is a fine start this week. This is a matchup. I do want pieces in Lamar or Trevor Lawrence. I won't go to Lawrence. From. From Lamar. I would stick with Lamar. Okay, that's. That's basically like the tear break to me. Where you're going from like top 12.

[Mike Wright]

And four or five weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean Lamar's four points. Trevor Lawrence was my stream of the week. That was my pickup to play off of the waivers this week. I like it and it makes sense. This is a great matchup with a high over under. They're at home. Andy believes they're going to win the game. I think you could start Trevor Lawrence, but I'm still in the. I'm still in the side where. I don't think Lamar forgot to be a great quarterback and doesn't know how to do anymore.

[Jason Moore]

Man, I think that's a really tough decision. Mike, would you go Trevor Lawrence?

[Mike Wright]

I would.

[Jason Moore]

I think I would, too.

[Mike Wright]

Well, actually, I said I'm not answering Lamar questions this time.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's. Oh, crap.

[Andy Holloway]

You take that back.

[Jason Moore]

Edit that.

[Mike Wright]

But in general, change his voice to.

[Jason Moore]

One of those deep voices.

[Mike Wright]

I would play Trevor Lawrence.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. In the pitch black over there. Yeah, we need that as a bit.

[Andy Holloway]

We do.

[Jason Moore]

If you could shut one side down and just like turn them into a black.

[Andy Holloway]

A backlit camera with no light on the front.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Black silhouettes.

[Mike Wright]

You can just tell your darkest.

[Andy Holloway]

I would start Kyle Pitts this week. You should look into that. Carry on. Johnson is a my guy again.

[Jason Moore]

Sorry.

[Mike Wright]

These things happen.

[Jason Moore]

Jonathan Taylor, you play him. It's amazing the lack of confidence I've seen in the fantasy community about Travis Etienne right now. You know, it's weird because there have been.

[Mike Wright]

He's weird.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Travis ETN is a top. Well, he's at 13 right now on the year, but that's with a bye week. And he's had like what, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 of 13 weeks. He's a top 12 running back. So you've had these like prolific games. And then even when he's struggled 18, 30, 23, 32, it's not been bad. And then last week you have one really bad game, worst finish of the year, and everyone's like, do I even play him?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I think it comes in concert with the work that Bash Altutin's getting. And you just, you, you are fearful that the takeover will happen where Tootin ends up at least in a 50, 50 timeshare if not getting even more work. That's the fear. But Travis Etienne is definitely a playable running back. The, the, you know, the last six weeks, the Colts are 24th against running backs. I don't view this as a terrible matchup for him and they're going to need him. I mean, this game is so important for who's going to be playing at home in the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

And then the Brian Thomas Jr. Questions. I mean.

Look, I understand the narrative and storyline and why it could work. I just think there have been a lot of times that the same conversation has happened over and over again. That conversations. It's pretty true against Tennessee last week when he did nothing. It was pretty true against Las Vegas before the injury. But when he did nothing. Right. It's been true against Cincinnati when they had no defense and he did nothing. So that, that, you know, this is the hardest player type in fantasy to deal with. It's the player that's done it. It's the player with physical gifts, skills and abilities. It's the player with high draft capital that isn't doing it now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And those players, you always see the path to them doing it again and may. And it might happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, I'll tell you where I have him in my personal rankings. I kind of who I would play over him and who I would play, you know, him over. I'm going to play Michael Pittman and Cortland Sutton and Alec Pierce ahead of Brian Thomas.

[Mike Wright]

Those are the three guys I was.

[Andy Holloway]

Going to ask about well, there you go. I would play all three of those guys ahead of Brian Thomas.

[Mike Wright]

You got one more but DK Metcalf.

[Andy Holloway]

So I've got, I've got DK Metcalf.

[Jason Moore]

It's.

[Andy Holloway]

It feels bad, but I've got him behind Brian Thomas Jr. Khalil Shakir. Oh, those two would hang out behind Brian Thomas Jr. Although that one, if you want to roll, you know, in the heat, Troy Franklin, would you like Kobe Myers over.

[Jason Moore]

Him in the same game?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I would not.

[Jason Moore]

I would do that.

[Andy Holloway]

I would. And I don't. I don't fault anyone for choosing to play Myers over who's looked good with an early connection with Trevor Lawrence. But also that early connection with Trevor Lawrence has been while, you know, Brian Thomas was dealing with the angle injury. Brian Thomas is their number one wide receiver. He's also their best wide receiver. So you believe that Jacoby Myers is a better wide receiver than Brian Thomas Jr.

[Mike Wright]

I think there is a chance. The what you kind of. You have to remember, you know, because Jacoby Myers, what has had multiple good seasons for back for the Raiders. I mean he was paid a lot of money. Week one is quite good. And then he falls apart. And while you don't know what the truth is yet, you don't know whose fault it really is as everything just completely fell apart and it's Geno Smith and the offense like this. He was in an impossible situation. He gets traded immediately, is commanding a target chair and is producing. So I just. My confidence with Jacoby is. It's coming back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's just what is Brian Thomas at this point. You know, there are players in the league who none of us would say Xavier Worthy is a worse wide receiver than JuJu in Kansas City. Right. In previous years. But we'd also go into a week and say, you know, it can just go really weird for Worthy. Whereas you're going to get what you get with Jacoby. Like Jacoby's going to catch five or six passes he scored in two straight weeks. One of them with Brian Thomas Jr. I don't know, I just don't have any. I'll summarize it like this. I don't have any confidence at all in Brian Thomas Jr. I would have none.

[Mike Wright]

I would be more surprised if Jacoby had one of the just, you know, a nuclear game at 8, 120 yards and two touchdowns. I'd be more surprised at that than if Brian Thomas did it. But at this point, I'd be surprised if Brian Thomas does anything for the remainder of the season.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think anybody could have seen 48th and points per game. Brian Thomas Jr. So you take away the injuries and you just look at his performances and 48 is incomprehensible.

[Mike Wright]

Really hope he figures it out because.

[Andy Holloway]

This, this is a. This is a great matchup to figure it out. I mean, a game where you're going to need to score because the Colts are going to be scoring. They are down their number one corner. And this is also a matchup where we've seen Brian Thomas do well last year against Indianapolis for wide receiver 9, wide receiver 11. Who's throwing the ball? I don't know if that was Mack or I would imagine what we.

[Jason Moore]

Did you just say.

[Mike Wright]

No, he just said that the two performances against Indy, one was T Law, one was Mac. Okay. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I just. Nothing makes sense in precedent for me this year with Brian Thomas Jr. Because all year has been awful.

[Andy Holloway]

I will say again, I don't know if I brought this up on this show I talked about on the Dynasty show. I went back and watched every on field. Brian Thomas Jr. Snapchat. Not just the three targets, obviously. And he looked very healthy in the last game. Yes, this last game he looked very healthy. He was open, he looked fast. He was down. I mentioned he was the reason Jacoby had that 66 yard reception because he went down and took out that guy that was coming to chase him. Blocked the heck out of him. He was helping every teammate up after every play like he was like a big part of the game, even though he was only three targets. So I am confident he is healthy.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this. Parker Washington came back to practice.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

So Brent Strange.

[Andy Holloway]

The ball can get spread around there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Brenton Stranger start of the week at tight end. Tyler Warren, you keep playing him. He leads the team in targets per outrun yards per out run, fantasy points per outrun versus zone defenses, which is basically Jacksonville's defense is his own defense. They play it 80 plus percent of the time. Alec Pierce. I think you can start with excitement because you always get big playability and he's just on the field and doing enough. Michael Pittman, I think was it last week. That was a really bad disappearing act.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But he's playable in a high over under matchup here as well.

Daniel Jones is not so much in the conversation anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Not with the leg injury. You don't expect to see him scrambling a lot and he. He's not playing the same.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we'll take a break. And get into some more matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Pittsburgh 6 and 6 Baltimore 6 and 6. Feel like that's just begging for some sort of Jason Mark of the Beast comment.

[Andy Holloway]

Tough because there's four. You know, I thought about it.

[Mike Wright]

Did the Beast get a tattoo?

[Jason Moore]

This is like a mega mark Vegas line. Baltimore -5 and a half over under just 42 and a half in this one. What a wild division. I mean Baltimore and Pittsburgh leading it at 6 and 6. Cincinnati very fortunate for that to be true. And man, it's, it's going to be. This is a big playoff game for both teams.

Lamar, we've talked about him at length. Terrifying on every level. Not just because Lamar is obviously capable of giving you a great game at any moment, but because it's a divisional game with a low over under in a. These ones can be dog fights. These ones can be. You know, T.J. watt is just got an extra pep in his step for a game like this. You know, I think it's fortunate the games in Baltimore, but still this, this could be like if you had to wager on 42 and a half, I probably go under.

[Andy Holloway]

Me personally, I think the line is set. Perfect as it usually is. This is a game where I agree it could be a dog fight. What happened last week where they got. The Baltimore Ravens got criticized for their use of Derek Henry and Harbaugh came out and talked about how that happened and it was pretty logical how it happened. But Derek Henry was awesome and when they used him, he was doing great. And this matchup where, I mean, look, the Steelers, they're, you know, they're great, lauded, long time, amazing, hard nosed, tough, you know, blue collar defense, it doesn't exist. They are one of the worst run defenses in the league. If you adjust for schedule, they're 30th in fantasy points given up to running backs on the season and they just gave up a million this last week. So to me, I like Derek Henry quite a bit.

[Jason Moore]

Zay Flowers is not really in the conversation for me anymore. On a week to week basis I'd play dk, I'd play Pity City, I'd play really Khalil Shakir. Yeah, I have 0.0 confidence in anything meaningful for my fantasy team. From Zay Flowers and then the over under the Lamar injury, you just start stacking up the reasons why. You know, any player can do anything on any week.

[Andy Holloway]

But are you playing DK Metcalf?

[Mike Wright]

Mike, I'm on break.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, okay. If you had, I mean you, you have this matchup, right? You've got.

[Mike Wright]

Right, right, right.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm DK Metcalf.

[Jason Moore]

I.

[Mike Wright]

It's a DK Metcalf is far more likely to hit the ceiling. But Flower, I think I'd still, honestly would probably still play Zay Flowers. Like if it. A small sample, literally one game. But the Tyler Huntley game, should Lamar miss. It wasn't incredible for zay. He was 7 for 63, but he was 41% of the targets. Like he just immediately would go to Zay as the, as the number one option.

[Jason Moore]

I mean it's been.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it's been, it's been average. It's been average.

[Jason Moore]

He hasn't scored since week one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the touchdowns. Well, he scored last week and they said no, we're not allowing that to happen. He just, he is. His games are between 8 and 11 and a half points. He's just been very average where DK Metcalf has more ceiling games than he does, but he has more just catastrophic games than Zay Flowers does.

[Jason Moore]

Jalen Warren.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you play him. Also the thing with, with, with DK like this Rogers injury is weird.

[Jason Moore]

Like he's only averaging 190 passing yards a game anyways, which you feel every week.

[Andy Holloway]

And now you add Adam Thielen to the mix in some capacity. I don't worry about this guy.

[Jason Moore]

Sure, I'm not worried about this guy.

[Andy Holloway]

But I'm just saying if you, if you're throwing for 190 yards a game.

[Jason Moore]

And you're worried about feelings. Four yards.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm worried about every four yard.

[Jason Moore]

So meaningless. It doesn't matter.

[Mike Wright]

It's a game of yards.

[Jason Moore]

Mark Andrews.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe the Steelers are the only team this year that is not thrown for 250 yards in a game.

[Jason Moore]

I mean I think they've been incomplete on 25 straight 20 yard throws. Something like that. Like they haven't completed a ball over 20 yards.

[Mike Wright]

What?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they've come Kyle, you'll be able to track that down real fast for me. Give me the, give me the actual number. It's the, the amount of like a 20 air yard pass, any 20 air yard passes. It's like 25 straight that they haven't completed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And this is.

[Jason Moore]

And there's like games they've gone games and games without completing a big play.

[Andy Holloway]

This is in Baltimore. I don't think this is going to be a fun game for the Steelers. I think it's going to be fun for anybody.

[Jason Moore]

It's not fun for either side. I don't even know if it's fun for Henry.

[Mike Wright]

I'm fine with. But Henry's still a top 12 start at worst. Jaylen Warren just continues to get it done. And I mean Kenny Gainwell if you need him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this is going to be a crazy, crazy, very, very meaningful game that may not be as meaningful for fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I can agree with that.

[Jason Moore]

Did you find it? Kyle, you're on the microphone. Do you end up finding the number?

[Mike Wright]

They haven't completed a 20 plus since week eight.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's week 14.

[Mike Wright]

It's a long time, dude.

Arthur Smith, Aaron Rogers. Yeah, no, but, but I'm saying with.

[Jason Moore]

Our powers combined we can be soup trash.

[Mike Wright]

Just saying of like he had Drake, London nothing. He had Pickens nothing like Guy. I don't know, it's just, it's, it's crazy to me that you have guys who we now look at. You're like, that's potentially a superstar wide receiver and Arthur Smith is like, yeah, they've lost. I'm not going to give him the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Last seven games.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, your dream's coming true, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. It's like Aaron Rodgers going to show up and he's going to for the first time ever, give them a sub 500 record.

[Jason Moore]

Denver, here's your palindrome. Denver 10 and 2. Las Vegas 2 and 10.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Vegas line is Denver minus seven and a half on the road over under is 40. But that gives Denver with the heavy favorite line 24 points. Las Vegas with a cool 16 competing with Tennessee for ooh, gross of the week.

You remember this was the week 10 game in Denver that was a horrific 10 to 7 game. The Broncos have won nine straight games, but their last four wins have been by 10 points.

[Mike Wright]

Every single combined 10 points.

[Jason Moore]

Combined 10 points. That is the smallest margin of victory for any team in a four game win streak in NFL history. They are squeaking by just. I really wanted them to lose to Washington just to teach him a lesson. Yeah, and they still won the super.

[Andy Holloway]

It feels like every year there's a team that just the ball always bounces their way for that season. Last year it was the Chiefs. This year it's, it's the Broncos and the ball bouncing their way even in before the game. Max Crosby, who was limited on Wednesday, did not practice on Thursday, of course. So if, I mean if he's gone now all of a sudden you can.

[Jason Moore]

Go, he could win 11 to 7.

The wild thing about this, do you want your spanking now or in the playoffs? Denver, take it now. Lose this game.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think they can get us.

[Mike Wright]

To realign the go out there and lose.

[Jason Moore]

Lose the game and get your spanking, motivate your team to know that it doesn't just always work.

[Andy Holloway]

Their defense is too good to really ever get blown out. Yeah, I can't imagine a team going out there and putting 35 up easily on the Broncos.

[Jason Moore]

The part that's hard about Denver is like if Las Vegas one great Brock Bowers play okay, you got seven points, you return a kick because that doesn't involve their defense. And you got 14. And then you're like, does Denver win or not? I mean, that's how the offense feels. It's why we have a hard time talking about wide receivers. I mean, how many times in the last two years have we been like, this week is. It's Marvin Mims has finally really reached the way to Troy Franklin. He's finally going to be the pap. Bryant is the guy you want to be. Evan Ingrams, he's coming up. And Corland Sutton sitting there, touchdown or bust. And I don't know, it's just 10 and 2. Okay, congratulations. But I don't know who to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't know. It's funny because they should score in this game. This is a good matchup.

[Mike Wright]

They also should have the first time.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. And so I would order it. I would put.

[Mike Wright]

I'm still playing Sutton this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I would put him first in the list. He does, you know, in the last three weeks, which I think you've got to look recently because the Pat Bryant, Troy Franklin, Marvin Mims, whoever the two is, has kind of been rotating and Corland Sutton has the most targets, the most receiving percentage of receiving yards, the highest fantasy points. So I think to me it's Cortland Sutton and checkout, keep your eyes on Pat Bryant and on Troy Franklin. But that's playing wise.

[Mike Wright]

It's just Sutton if Pat Bryant and who is now, of course limited with a hamstring, but if Bryant got into this game, puts up or is on the field for another 70 plus percent of the snaps, maybe the following week. All considered, even Green Bay is a tough matchup in two weeks. But I'm with you. It's. I'm going to go Cortland Sutton, Harvey.

[Andy Holloway]

Harvey should.

[Mike Wright]

Harvey should he.

[Jason Moore]

Harvey Genty Bowers, you play all of them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Harvey should. The advanced analytics on RJ Harvey are not good.

[Andy Holloway]

I think the biggest question is maybe Bo Nix.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to ask you Bo Nix or Lamar.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Lamar.

I don't. Bo Nix hasn't especially big. I would go Trevor Lawrence over Bo nicks okay.

[Jason Moore]

Chicago's nine and three. Green Bay eight. Three and one. Green Bay eight and a half. Or sorry, six and a half point home favorites. No respect to the number one seed. Over under is 44 and a half. That is this is the first time 40 plus years that a number one ranked team is six plus point underdogs.

[Andy Holloway]

As chalkboard material right there. Write that up.

[Jason Moore]

You think they have a chalkboard anymore?

[Andy Holloway]

That's whiteboard material right there.

[Jason Moore]

And what a big deal. I mean, this camera. There's a lot of huge playoff games this week. They play again in week 16, these same two teams. So my goodness, 18 degrees is the current projection.

[Andy Holloway]

When you start getting below 25 degrees, that's where you see an impact. So we'll have to pay more attention as we get closer to know whether or not you know that that's going to hold. But usually when you worry about.

You know, hourly, like, is this weather going to impact the game? That's more specifically on rain, on snow. Like, we got to be closer to know if that's going to come. The temperature is pretty predictable. So this should be a freezing game.

[Jason Moore]

Big decisions for fantasy managers, I think. By the way, I realize you never even hit your to slaw drop at the beginning of the show.

[Andy Holloway]

He caught a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

I think people deserve one. Come on. I wanted the lights.

[Mike Wright]

Where the heck are the lights? No, no. If he had. If he had came down with that second.

[Jason Moore]

Do we not have any lights? I did.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought they were working.

[Jason Moore]

I tested them.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, wait, we actually.

[Jason Moore]

Thought wrong.

[Mike Wright]

Kyle the Borgogan, he tried it again.

[Andy Holloway]

And it didn't work.

[Jason Moore]

Sorry.

[Mike Wright]

Kyle the Borgon tweeted this one out. Rookie wide receivers with four receiving touchdowns on fewer than 10 receptions. Isaac Tesla.

[Andy Holloway]

That's it.

[Mike Wright]

He should have had at least one more. If we had one more, it would. It would have been. It would have been pants off.

[Andy Holloway]

Does that just become his position? Like you play wide receiver, you play tight end, you play touchdown. Like that's law is just. He's our touchdown touchdown guy. Yeah, he's a touchdown guy. That's it.

I just want.

[Mike Wright]

I wanted to see it, man. I wanted to see if it would work.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I thought you meant the lights. Yeah, I did too.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no, that. That will never work.

[Jason Moore]

Caleb Williams. Jordan Love in this one. What a big game from Jordan Love on Thanksgiving. I mean, that was.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was very good.

[Jason Moore]

Those are the games that really tantalize you and make you think that.

You know, you could get that every week. But it doesn't Happen that way. And are you worried about him in the cold or do you embrace the Green Bay home matchup and think that, hey, at least on paper the Bears defense gives it up to quarterbacks. They give it up to wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean I was really excited. Like similar to Jordan love Christian Watson. His target share over the last three weeks, 20%, 33%, 36%. And this is a matchup where you want to throw in the Bears. And so yeah, on paper, I really like the combination of Jordan love Christian Watson. The weather does scare me. It usually I'm having Kyle pull up the data. We've done the research, but you know, I forget every year when we come back to see how significantly it impacts the run to pass ratio. So usually bad weather will be good for running backs and bad for wide receivers in the passing game. So I'll get that in a second.

[Mike Wright]

Is it good for a running back who's just been hurt nonstop for a month?

[Andy Holloway]

I doubt it. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. Is that like a, like a outdoor cold plunge where the recovery is nice, right?

[Mike Wright]

The inflammation will be gone or does.

[Andy Holloway]

It just keep everything too tight and you rip? I don't know. I don't know. I'm scared. I'm scared. Every Josh Jacobs play as the Josh Jacobs manager, this is. He is the player where every play I watch and I go, just get up. Fine.

[Mike Wright]

Time slows down and you're micro analyzing every movement.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not, I'm not analyzing the movements. I'm analyzing how he stands up after he gets tackled. I'm like, how's he. How are you standing? You get right up. Oh, that you took a second.

[Jason Moore]

He's like, no Christian Watson target share.

[Mike Wright]

Is he. Yeah. Balloons for three weeks starting that Christian.

[Jason Moore]

Watson or Brian Thomas Jr. Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

That. That is really interesting. I. Let me, let me finish finding this, this data on the weather and I'll get back to you.

[Jason Moore]

I'd go Christian Watson, I'd play Watson. Roma Dunesay has not been practicing. It might open up a little bit of a window for D.J. more confidence. I'm not going to say Luther Burden confidence, but Luther Burton possibilities. Yeah, that's fine. And Mr. Loveland. Mr. Loveland averaging five targets for.

[Andy Holloway]

Over.

[Jason Moore]

The last six weeks. I can live with that. With touchdown upside.

[Mike Wright]

That's passable.

[Jason Moore]

Although the packers man shut that tight end position last.

[Mike Wright]

Over the past six weeks, the Green Bay packers are allowing an average of 4.1 points to the tight end position.

[Jason Moore]

That's not a lot. That is that's not a lot.

[Mike Wright]

Who.

[Jason Moore]

And Matthew golden still plays for Green Bay. Is that. Do we think he's. Is he on the team?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. Him and Worthy, they can just.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Who hit that?

[Mike Wright]

No, no. Who do you think? The Green Bay boy back there.

[Andy Holloway]

Green Bay boy?

[Jason Moore]

No, you work on the lights. You don't hit that drop.

[Mike Wright]

No, Matthew.

[Andy Holloway]

I was answering your question.

[Mike Wright]

Matthew golden and Xavier Worthy could just hold hands, skip down the lane and just be. Hey, guys, remember how fast we work?

[Andy Holloway]

Whoa.

[Jason Moore]

Both first rounders, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Whoops.

[Jason Moore]

Fast first rounders sometimes go sideways.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What was Hayward Bay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

At least Xavier.

[Mike Wright]

He was real fast.

[Andy Holloway]

Xavier Worthy, though, Rugs.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, come on.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. That's too fast. Xavier Worthy.

Thank you. Swish.

Xavier Worthy had production in college. He had production as a rookie and was like. Matthew golden didn't have product. No, I'm just saying. Matthew golden didn't even have college production.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he still hasn't gotten any targets either.

[Andy Holloway]

Just like college.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I think we covered that one. We'll take a break. We'll jump into some more.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Los angeles. The Rams 9 and 3. The Cardinals 3 and 9.

I mean, why even play it? Why play the game? Yeah, why play this game? The Rams, 8 1/2 point road favorites over unders 47 1/2. I hate the Cardinal.

[Mike Wright]

You got. You got to let it go, brother.

[Jason Moore]

I hate him.

[Mike Wright]

You got to. You got to release Kobe. Release that hate from your.

[Jason Moore]

I love Michael Wilson. I love Trey McBride.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I love Trey McBride.

[Jason Moore]

And then I'm done. I mean, you could. You could start Bam Knight if you had to start Bam Knight. I. You know, the Bam Knight. Devin Neal, Bam Knight, Chris Rodriguez. They're close. You know, Kareem Hunt. Bam Knight. Okay, we're in RB3 decision making territory.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. All of those players. It's. Who do you. Well, who do you think scores.

Man? I think I personally would play Devin Neal over Bam and I think I played Rodriguez over Bam.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Bam Knight's been top 20 in three straight weeks. He. It seems to.

I don't know, we keep thinking he's hurt and then he keeps having okay games. But yeah, I don't mind those. Kyron, they're managing him for playoffs. You know what they care about right now? So Blake Corum, does that put him in a flexible category? Is he not quite there?

[Andy Holloway]

The only reason that I think it could be flexible is if the matchup, if, you know, it's the high spread of the week, if they end up just dominating, they might want to give Kyron more rest and corn more work.

[Jason Moore]

I would prefer spread of the week. I believe Cardinals at home.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's one of the best teams in the NFL against one of the worst teams in the NFL. So the math checks out. Yeah. It's tied for the highest spread of the week. Yeah, I mean, I would prefer to play someone else other than Blake Corum. He is getting involved and that is impactful for Kyron Williams. But I don't know that he's getting involved enough where you're not going to be happy if he doesn't end up.

[Mike Wright]

With a touchdown opportunities. So it was ramped up there. I mean, you had three games in a row of 13 opportunities for him. Then it dropped to 10, then seven, and then seven this past week.

[Jason Moore]

Is Matthew Stafford your start of the week, Jay?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah. So Matthew Stafford, it should be pretty Good against Arizona. And the nice thing about Arizona, at least they're going to lose. I mean we know that but they could put up some points. You know Jacobi has found a way against even the best opponents to you know, seven straight top 12 finishes.

[Andy Holloway]

That's incredible. I mean you, you brought it up sometime this week. His, his since he's been a starter like his 17 game pace is 5,300 yards and 31 touchdowns. That is fantasy goal.

[Jason Moore]

He's going James. He's going James.

Puka, Devonte play them. Michael Wilson, great opportunity if Harrison misses. Even if he doesn't miss, I think Michael Wilson's okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree.

[Jason Moore]

And you can't run on. You just can't run on the Rams. Houston.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the only question, I was just going to say the only question is if Marvin Harrison plays, do you view him as a good play or.

[Jason Moore]

I just think the targets will be there. They've been there with Jacoby Brissette. He had seven last week before he got banged up. I think he's good for eight nine point minimum if he plays Houston seven and five Kansas City six and six Vegas line Kansas City minus three and a half another super consequential game. The over under is just 41 and a half. Two of the best defenses in football. Kansas City on the outside looking and they could go sub 500 in this game and huge for Houston. Right. They will be tied with one of those other two division mates if they win this game.

The Chiefs have flipped the script on last year. Remember how annoying always winning the close ones was. They're one in six in one score games. This that's just not a mark of Mahomes and Reed in recent history. And the Texans defense is so tough.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they're very, very good.

[Jason Moore]

This is sort of the kind of matchup that I think is the worst for Kansas City possible. I. You know when you don't have Tyree Kill and you don't have prime Travis Kelsey. You know I think Rashi Rice is a really, really good player but he's also not like he's not built to function the way that a jamar Chase Calvin Johnson, Justin Jefferson is. He's a different player and I don't know if he's enough on this roster talent wise to get through a defense like this.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean they, they need a lot out of Travis Kelsey in this game and it's not a good matchup against. This is not a good matchup against anybody. I mean you look on the season the Texans are hysterically they're number three against quarterbacks, number three against running backs, number three against wide receivers, number three against tight ends.

[Jason Moore]

Who do you have one in the game?

[Andy Holloway]

I've got the Chiefs. I. It's just like.

[Jason Moore]

Because they have to.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, exactly. It's the script. I mean, they just have to. They have to win. They don't make the playoffs if they don't win enough games from here on out. And the Chiefs are going to make the playoffs and everybody in the world knows it. So it's like they just have to. I don't know how. I could totally see how the Texans, who have been playing great and their defense is outstanding, could take it to them, but the rules are the rules and they're not allowed to win the game.

[Jason Moore]

Are you allowed to win a week with Woody Marks in your lineup? Because this is a. It's a rough matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

I would really not want to play Bam.

[Jason Moore]

Night Woody Marks.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, two awful matchups. That is like. I know I would go Woody over Bam.

[Mike Wright]

I think that's Bam.

[Jason Moore]

Nico Collins has been a top 10 wide out in three or four weeks. He's. He's big, strong, fast. Good. Play him in your lineup and then just probably try not to play too many other players in this matchup too. Very good defenses and.

You know, it will be cold outside and Nico's going.

[Mike Wright]

To sneak his way back into the top 12.

[Jason Moore]

Sneako. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Allow it.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah. Rashi Rice, of course you play him and Nico, but I'm kind of nervous about everybody else, including the quarterbacks.

[Andy Holloway]

I would agree.

[Jason Moore]

Would you play Lamar or Patrick Mahomes?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

Whoa.

[Mike Wright]

Houston still hasn't given up a top 12, right?

[Andy Holloway]

They have not the entire season and they've had a whole.

[Jason Moore]

Mahomes was number one last week.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Mahomes, but Kyle says.

[Jason Moore]

He has the exact decision in our chopped league.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yes, you have Mahomes.

[Jason Moore]

Lamartis.

[Mike Wright]

I would play the healthy quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Kyle, which way are you leaning right this second? Kyle?

[Jason Moore]

Right now I have my homes in, but my heart wants Lamar.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't screw it up.

[Jason Moore]

Philadelphia. Monday night Football taken on the chargers. Both teams eight and four. Philly two and a half point road favorites. The over unders 41 and a half.

Since the bye week, the Eagles have scored 10, 16, 21 and 15 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Blarf.

[Jason Moore]

All their games are hitting the under. This one's at 41 and a half. So it's adjusted. This would be the lowest of any of those matchups. Both teams are really good in one score games. Philly 7 and 2, Los Angeles, 4 and 1. The Chargers offensive line is a major concern, but we just found out yesterday that Jalen Carter is out in this game for Philadelphia. You know, this was. It was the Scatter Boo game, right? That Scatter Boo had the three touchdowns against Philadelphia. Jalen Carter missed that game. Well, technically, he played.

[Mike Wright]

He technically spat his way out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he played a snap and then Scatter Boo went crazy. It does change.

[Mike Wright]

One snap, one spat.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it just changes the way I look at Hampton. Because if you're talking about committee, you know, we heard it would be committee with Bucky Irving. It ended up being all Bucky Irving. I don't think Hampton has the kind of established.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You don't have enough film on him.

[Jason Moore]

No, but I do think that it does open the door. It cracks the door open to where I'm like, okay, if I am staring down the Devin Neal, if I'm staring down the Bam Knight, Kareem Hunt, Woody Marks, or Hampton, my heart wants to go Hampton.

[Mike Wright]

I would play Hampton.

[Jason Moore]

The question, and Jalen Carter being out confirms it.

[Andy Holloway]

Can you play Vidal Sassoon as well as Hampton? They have come out and said that he's played like a number one. He deserves what he's gotten because he's. I mean, Vidal has been playing very well. You look at what happened last week against the Eagles where you had Manungai and Swift just run all over.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but that was the. That was the line.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I agree. You're going from a great offensive line in Chicago to a just depleted, injured, missing offensive line for the red light.

[Jason Moore]

Green light Narrative says this will be a bad one for Vidal.

[Andy Holloway]

It's held true too long.

[Jason Moore]

It's held true since week six. Great. Bad. Great. Bad. Great. Bad. You just got the great man.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to play Hampton so bad.

[Jason Moore]

Right. Don't we all?

[Andy Holloway]

You know, if he comes back, I want to throw him out there.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Saquon or RJ Harvey? If you had that decision, Saquon has been just kind of okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I would play R.J. harvey. It's a great matchup. He's got the chance for touchdowns, and Barkley is going to get more work than RJ Harvey for sure. But the touchdown upside, I mean, man, Saquon has not been very good this year.

[Mike Wright]

The Chargers against running backs on the season is not great, but they have tightened it up in the last.

[Jason Moore]

You see the huge limited shoulder injury situation.

[Mike Wright]

I see it now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Quentin Johnston was limited on Thursday. We'll keep monitoring that. I don't know if it was a practice injury or something he's taken care of, but we hadn't seen that before.

You're always kind of looking for some insight, I think with. With the Chargers in terms of can you bend towards Gadsden having a good game or Keenan Allen being involved? Like, I think Glad McConkey is the one that's confirmed. Solid, good to go. But in a matchup like this, that might be where you stop the conversation.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And Justin Herbert, let's not forget Justin Herbert. If he plays in this game. He's playing in this game. One week removed from hand surgery and it's a little bit concerning. It's a pain tolerance thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Who do you have winning this game?

[Jason Moore]

I almost pushed the button, but I just don't. The push comes to shove of this offensive line and then the defensive pressure from the Eagles, I.

[Mike Wright]

That's how I see.

[Jason Moore]

I don't have the conviction in this one. I see it really heads up. I might even lean the Eagles.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I would take them.

[Jason Moore]

A.J. brown, Devontae Smith, you put them in your lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The offense has not been great, but you got to play those guys. And I'm not sure there's other start sit decisions we haven't talked about.

[Mike Wright]

I mean. Yeah. Well, Dallas Goddard, he. He stopped getting away with it.

[Andy Holloway]

Stopped scoring touchdowns like crazy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Oh, we have updates.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. We've got worthy.

Breaking news.

[Jason Moore]

Not about worthy, but worthy Updates. Marvin Harrison Jr. Has been ruled out.

[Mike Wright]

Oh my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

Also over under 18 targets.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

In addition to that Cardinals news that was just reported, Kyler Murray not expected to play again this season as he's quote, not progressed as they had hoped.

[Jason Moore]

You see his TikTok.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

He said weird year, never again.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And I don't know what the never again means.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably Cardinals playing for the Cardinals.

[Jason Moore]

It's definitely in the realm of possibilities.

[Andy Holloway]

Also update.

Reminding myself of now that we're back into the cold weather months, if there is not wind and there is not snow and rain, cold, freezing weather does not really have a big impact.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

So I would to answer that question earlier. Christian Watson, Brian Thomas. I'd be on the Christian Watson side.

[Jason Moore]

Dalton Kincaid will be questionable for week 14. Trey Benson is ruled out for the Cardinals as well.

[Mike Wright]

He is. Yeah. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Participating in practice.

[Andy Holloway]

On the Trey Benson news, we've been saying Plumber. Well, we've been saying you are like.

[Jason Moore]

So upset about Trey Benson's absence.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's a shame because he had the opportunity.

[Mike Wright]

I think he would.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. To Be really, really good.

[Jason Moore]

It feels like it'll be Connor again next year. Maybe it could be after that contract.

[Andy Holloway]

He is not technically unallowed to play again this season.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, because of the. When they started the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Because when they started, he has till Wednesday. So if they activate him by Wednesday, he could still come back.

[Jason Moore]

That's good to know. That's good to know.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So, because people are like, should I just full drop Trey Benson right now? I guess the answer is just keep it on your AR for now.

[Andy Holloway]

Wednesday night. You should.

[Jason Moore]

We can't possibly have enough time for another segment, do we?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, we can do this forever.

Fantasy Face off presented by Prize picks.

[Jason Moore]

Any. Any chance Al wants to do the Shame just because of the whole, like, massive lighting snafu? Not a chance. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Wheel of shame.

[Jason Moore]

By the way, I tried pretty hard not to be the shame this week. We went. We tied on Sunday. Actually, no, we tied on Thanksgiving, tied.

[Andy Holloway]

On Thursday, then we tied on Sunday, and then we almost tied on Monday.

[Jason Moore]

Almost tied on Monday. But I. Freaking Wondale, you did it. I'm the shame again. Spin it. Spin the stupid, stupid, stupid wheel. And don't pick a mask that's gonna cut my face open. But you might have. All right, what does that say?

[Mike Wright]

Happy little.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's a little Bob Ross. Hey, nice.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, do I get the. I got the beard.

[Mike Wright]

Of course you have. What, did Grizzly Adams have a beard?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh, look. Happy little.

[Mike Wright]

That's gonna be real comfy.

[Andy Holloway]

That looks itchy. Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Very itchy. Wait, this is a Bob Ross.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a Bob Ross.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, it's Bob Ross. What's all this Bob Ross talk?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's just happy little treats.

[Mike Wright]

It's a guy with some curly hair. Help him out. Help him out, Matt.

[Andy Holloway]

And you got a paintbrush. Very nice. Very nice.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, this is so stupid.

[Jason Moore]

It's pretty bad.

[Mike Wright]

You can step into the shot, Matt. It's okay.

[Jason Moore]

No, he's got his bare legs showing today.

[Andy Holloway]

You actually look better.

[Mike Wright]

Have you considered this look?

[Jason Moore]

I think my dad looked like this in the 70s. Yeah, no joke.

[Andy Holloway]

Beard looks good on you. But that hair.

[Jason Moore]

I want you to understand how much. How much fake hair I'm ingesting.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It's an incomprehensible amount, mind you. I also might not even have a good lineup this week because. Let's start at quarterback. My. My quarterback pick of the week is Marcus mariota. More than 211 passing yards.

[Mike Wright]

Stick with it.

[Jason Moore]

This is going to be just a live Pivot. Whoever's starting. Whoever's starting.

[Andy Holloway]

Whatever their projection is.

[Jason Moore]

Whatever their projection is, I'm taking them more. I like what I've seen from the Washington passing offense with Mariota and I'm not going to lose confidence with Jaden coming in if that's the case. So that's where I'm going to go. Let me just put that down.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Mine is Jacoby Brissette. His projection is 248 and a half yards. He has not. Not hit that in forever. Not, not, not, not. Who's there?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Slam dunk. Oh, yeah. So I'm taking more than that. Obviously. No Marvin Harrison, some banged up people around him. That one is my most fearful projection is Jacoby Brissette, but I'm taking more than 248 and a half.

[Mike Wright]

I was very thrilled, Jason, to hear you say that cold weather alone will not affect things.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Love.

[Mike Wright]

No. Joshua Allen, because.

[Andy Holloway]

But snow does affect things.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but it's just. It's a little bit. It's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Allen, 19 completions. We're taking the more.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I'm willing this into existence. This is Burrow versus Allen for. For everyone. You're welcome.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go to the wide receiver position just because I have a. Oh, my gosh.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

This is. This is worse than the Last one. Terry McLaurin is my Green Goblin. 3.5 receptions. I'm taking the more.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I have three and a half receptions as well, but mine is not a green Goblin. It's Christian Watson's projection and I am happy to hear that the cold weather does not. I think three and a half receptions for Christian Watson should be very doable.

[Mike Wright]

My wide receiver. It is my Green Goblin. It's Alec Pierce. Two and a half receptions. I'm taking the more running back.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going Chase Brown. I'm taking the longest rush from Chase Brown against Buffalo. I'm going more than 12 and a half yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Okay. That. That'll be a fun one to monitor as the game goes along.

This one I think is. I love. I feel like. I feel like it was broken. Bad projection. Two and a half receptions for Bucky Irving. I'm going more than that. I think last year comes to. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Whenever I'm fully bullish. But Bucky Irving, I mean, he came back and looked healthy.

[Mike Wright]

So I got. I got Chase Brown as well, but I'm taking just his overall rushing attempts. It's a 12 and a half. I'm taking them more.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're both at 12 and a half. It's just.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

On a play.

[Jason Moore]

I'm being distracted by Jonathan Gannon on if Kyler Murray will be Cardinals quarterback next year. His. His quote was, I'm worried about the Rams.

[Mike Wright]

His quote should be, that won't be my decision because I won't be here because I suck.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be a great answer, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Just tell the. Tell people the truth, Gannon. You suck.

[Andy Holloway]

I wish.

[Mike Wright]

I hate that.

[Andy Holloway]

I wish like how you hate the Cardinals.

[Mike Wright]

Like I can feel. I'm. I don't care about the Cardinals. I'm just. I'm so done with that coaching step.

[Jason Moore]

My tight end this week into the cannon. My tight end this week, Darren Waller.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, really?

[Jason Moore]

Nice. I'm going his yardage number. More than 28.5 receiving yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Nice. I almost.

[Mike Wright]

Pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, I like that a lot. I was. I was really close to doing that, but I saw this one for my Green Goblin. Gunner Helm is.

[Mike Wright]

You're going with a Gunner Helm?

[Jason Moore]

What was the one guy?

[Mike Wright]

Tommy Trimble.

[Jason Moore]

This is your Tommy.

[Andy Holloway]

Tommy Trimble part.

[Mike Wright]

You can pick any of the tight ends.

[Andy Holloway]

I know.

[Jason Moore]

Let me hear it.

[Andy Holloway]

Gunner Helm, the Green Goblin. What do you. What do you think it's going to be?

[Mike Wright]

It better be 0.5 receptions.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's not 0.5 receptions.

[Jason Moore]

Is it receptions?

[Andy Holloway]

It's receptions. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Probably better be one and a half reception.

[Andy Holloway]

One and a half reception.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, that's.

[Jason Moore]

That's fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Four, six and six receptions last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Okay. That's fine. That's fine.

[Jason Moore]

Here comes one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

For sure.

[Jason Moore]

The.

[Mike Wright]

The news on Marvin Harrison missing. That is good news for my projection. It's Trey McBride. Seven and a half receptions.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

We're going more.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

More, more, more, more, more.

[Jason Moore]

You want to eating hair, right?

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, it's time to end the show. We'll. We'll catch you on Sunday Live. Mike will be there ready for week 14.

[Mike Wright]

No Lamar questions, but I'll see you there.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye.

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[Mike Wright]

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