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Andy Holloway
Welcome to the the Fantasy footballers podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Welcome in.
Monday, December 8.
The fantasy footballers podcast. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway.
Back in the building. A Monday episode.
We have one game left till your fantasy playoffs.
But we're a year round show so you hang around with us and we keep talking about football.
Mike Wright
Yes. It's never too soon.
Jason Moore
I, you know, we're all monitoring all of our leagues and some of us are fighting for the last spot in a couple of leagues. And you know I was in the playoffs in the listener league.
Andy Holloway
Yes, yes.
Jason Moore
Like as going into.
Andy Holloway
Going into last week you were a current playoff team. If the, if the season ended in the listener league last week, you're in the playoffs.
Jason Moore
So I'm like what is my job this week?
Andy Holloway
You just got to go to and.
Jason Moore
Oh, just go to. We got the median in there. I just need to go to.
Andy Holloway
Did you go two and oh, easily. Boom.
Jason Moore
Playoffs, playoffs. Except not.
Mike Wright
Huh?
Jason Moore
Except not because somebody behind me scored like more points than the system allows.
Andy Holloway
In reasonable, like an unreasonable amount.
Jason Moore
Passed me in points because we had the Same record. So now I'm sweating it tonight. I think I need. I still got a good shot.
Andy Holloway
Okay, what's your situation?
Jason Moore
I need one of the teams ahead of me went, oh, and two, and so they're going to tie me in record. And they did not score many points.
Andy Holloway
That makes sense.
Jason Moore
So they need lad McConkey to score, like, 17.
Andy Holloway
So you're anti Lad.
Jason Moore
I'm anti Lad tonight.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
And then I think we'll all three be. We'll be three of the six spots in the Listener League playoffs.
Andy Holloway
That gives people. If one of us is the champ, then that's a whole nother spot open and available for next year's Listener League.
Jason Moore
That's it. That's it right there. And I think, Jason, you're in kind of a fight in one of our leagues trying to grab that last spot. There were, like, eight or nine teams at seven and six or six and seven in this league. The most parody ever.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. The.
Jason Moore
The.
Andy Holloway
The league we play with Rich Eisen. That is the weird. The whole season, like, all of the league was tied. Everyone's record felt like the exact same. I'm like, my team is really, really good.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And I'm the same record as half the people in the playoffs, but I don't think I will get there in that one.
Mike Wright
If people want to join us in rooting against Rich Eisenhower.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
Look.
Mike Wright
Simultaneously great friend and arch nemesis.
Andy Holloway
Terrible man of the show. Just the worst.
Jason Moore
Oh, wait, we're going. We're going personal.
Mike Wright
Because we love Eisen.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
We can do this. I have Huge and AJ Brown, and they will be facing off against Ladd. So Andy's Anti lady and I have my two guys versus lad. It's just a heads up whoever scores more points will win.
Jason Moore
Oh, and it'll bounce him from the playoffs if he.
Mike Wright
If Lad does not outscore those two.
Andy Holloway
Guys, then I can't get in the playoffs if Eisen's in. Right. So I need you to boot him so I can get in. All right.
Jason Moore
So we're all really anti Lad tonight. Sounds so your little Lad is.
Mike Wright
That hurts.
Andy Holloway
My little bitty.
Mike Wright
That hurts.
Jason Moore
We have our reactions to the week, and there were some injuries that are going to have ramifications into the fantasy playoffs.
Mike Wright
Dude, I was having such a good morning. I totally forgot about. Yeah, I had wiped those out.
Jason Moore
Genuinely. Is it worse right now to be a Cardinals fan where we know, like, we're so used to living inside of the poop.
Mike Wright
Right.
Jason Moore
That we don't smell it anymore?
Andy Holloway
If you Live on the farm.
Jason Moore
There is no scent, there's no smell. Or is it worse to be so a Cardinals fan with no hope and the worst coach and all of this.
Andy Holloway
I know where you're going and it's way more.
Jason Moore
Is it worse to be a Colts fan?
Andy Holloway
It is not fair to Colts fans. It is the worst, most brutal. You were.
Jason Moore
Let's trade for sauce because we're going to try to close out this maybe bye week type of team.
Andy Holloway
Trade two first for Sauce. Not just to close it out and be a bi week team, but to be a legitimate super bowl contender, not a playoff team. Oh, we can make the playoffs. This is. We might finish the year hoisting the trophy. And now I genuinely do not believe they make the playoffs. I don't. I don't think they. I don't see.
Jason Moore
They are the eighth.
Andy Holloway
So they're not in the playoffs and they're not going to be better.
Jason Moore
The tiebreaker. Houston has the tiebreaker.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
The team's ahead of them. Los Angeles. Tonight's a big game for Los Angeles.
Mike Wright
And for those who didn't hear, Daniel Jones tore his Achilles.
Andy Holloway
So he done for the year.
Mike Wright
The situation is done for a year. Really. It's insane because Daniel Jones was on a one year.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. He's a free agent.
Mike Wright
They trade two first rounds because they know that we're going to lock up Daniel Jones as our franchise quarterback. The dude has no more money left. He just tore his Achilles. It's. It takes time to come back from that. Do you they'll pay. Will you that that's what it will come down to.
Andy Holloway
I think they'll franchise him. Maybe.
Jason Moore
I think they'll pay him.
Andy Holloway
That would make sense. Now that being said, it's tough for.
Mike Wright
Like for the ownership, for the team, for the fans. You're in such a weird, hard position.
Andy Holloway
The funny thing is he is a complete and open free agent, meaning if they don't franchise him, he can go out. And when you say they'll pay him, if I'm Daniel Jones, I'm taking the money. I don't know how I'm coming back from an Achilles injury. I test the whole market, not just Indy, and I go, hey, every team that needs a quarterback. Because he just showcased himself, you know.
Jason Moore
A franchise would make sense. But it's also like, how soon are you going to be back? Is it going to be weeks into the season?
Andy Holloway
It is. The current timeline estimation is that he could potentially be ready for week one.
Jason Moore
The hardest part about that is one he part of his special sauce is running the football. So coming back from an Achilles injury and able to run is. It's a tall task. Now, Kirk Cousins got a big check after his Achilles injury.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. But he was also much older.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, he got a big check. Much older.
Mike Wright
What? That was.
Jason Moore
No, I know, I know. Achilles. You don't want to mess around with that.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Mike Wright
I would say the. Daniel Jones has made money. Like, do not. Do not forget he was a first round pick. So automatically he's made a good amount of cash. Then he got that extension with the Giants that was like, real.
Andy Holloway
So you're saying he doesn't have to take the bag?
Mike Wright
Yeah, he doesn't have to go get the biggest bag because he's.
Andy Holloway
I think he'll be back with the Colts. I think the Colts want him. He loves being a part of a franchise that wants him.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you. You had another win by New Orleans this week, which Tyler Schuck is playing well.
Andy Holloway
He's looking good.
Jason Moore
I'm looking at the standings, like the big. I think one of the big changes this week to me is just the landscape of that top quarterback spot where. Look, I already. I don't think Tennessee in any realm takes a quarterback. But now Las Vegas has a worse record than Cleveland does and is tied with the Titans. So Las Vegas could end up with potentially the number one pick in the draft. They desperately need a quarterback, but they.
Mike Wright
Don'T have the number one right now.
Andy Holloway
No, the Giants have the number one.
Mike Wright
Like, if it's not going to be my Arizona Cardinals having their pick of whoever. I want it to be the Giants. I really do. I want the Giants to have the first overall pick. Get just a haul.
Jason Moore
Oh, to move back.
Mike Wright
To move back. You've got your move back.
Andy Holloway
Get a crazy offensive lineman at like 5 with a hall of picks and be awesome.
Mike Wright
Yeah. You have a franchise quarterback, you have a number one wide receiver, you have a starting top tier running back. Like, you have. And then you have some other ancillary pieces that are like, good. Wanda and Slayton with neighbors. Yeah, like, that's. That is good.
Andy Holloway
They're made to be twos and threes.
Jason Moore
What's funny?
Mike Wright
They could turn around so fast.
Jason Moore
They have the. They have three or four games at home to finish the season against four teams with not without raining.
Mike Wright
They play Vegas, too. Yeah, that's going. That are the Tank. Tank bowl or whatever we call it.
Jason Moore
The Dung Bowl. I think we're going with Dung Bowl.
Andy Holloway
Dung bowl.
Mike Wright
That'll be it.
Andy Holloway
And Cleveland who? You know, because two of those picks, Tennessee probably won't take that quarterback. The Giants don't need a quarterback, assuming that Dart doesn't kill himself on the field this year.
Jason Moore
Right.
Andy Holloway
Cleveland obviously does not need a quarterback now.
Jason Moore
Right.
Mike Wright
By the end of the year, they may not.
Jason Moore
They shouldn't be talking about desean Watson coming back and setting the table for that for us. If they were looking at a quarterback. I mean, Shador went has 46 fantasy points.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he.
Jason Moore
It was.
Mike Wright
It was simultaneously like a great game for Sanders, and yet I saw, like, the time of, like, he was holding the ball so long and.
Jason Moore
Stop backing up.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah. Mike said this forever. He's.
Jason Moore
Stop it. Someone put a wall behind him. He has to move. Just come up in the pocket.
Andy Holloway
Ever. Ever once seen him step up in the pocket. He has stepped up to run. Like, if pressure's there and he escapes and goes forward, fine.
Jason Moore
Stop backing up.
Andy Holloway
Outside of that, he's never once just taken that two steps forward in the pocket in his life, including college.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And he's still. I mean, still a lot better than what they've had.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
So we'll see.
Mike Wright
I hope he's great.
Jason Moore
I think it'll be fun for all my sports cards. All right, we're getting into Monday punday. You submitted them. We're going to read them in a sophisticated way.
Andy Holloway
News.
Jason Moore
We'll start with the good. And this was part of the Shador game. Harold Manning Jr. Oh, yeah, Harold.
Andy Holloway
Fantastic.
Mike Wright
What about Bazooka Nagua?
Jason Moore
Yeah, baby. Or Puka Nuclear?
Andy Holloway
Oh. How about my start of the week? Michael Thrillson.
Jason Moore
He's so good.
Mike Wright
That must. That situation has to be investigated. What is happening there for malpractice? We got Frico Collins and Christmas Watson.
Jason Moore
Oh, baby.
Andy Holloway
I'll take the boom boom. Here. Brandon Dory.
Jason Moore
He's really good.
Mike Wright
Me and bcat got to the playoffs because of Brandon Aubrey on one of our Doggree. Doggree.
Andy Holloway
Sorry.
Mike Wright
Blake Scorum.
Jason Moore
I was hoping I wouldn't get stuck with this one. I coramba.
Andy Holloway
I coramba. Yeah. Shedure Santa.
Mike Wright
What?
Andy Holloway
It's the season, Mike.
Jason Moore
It is.
Andy Holloway
We're jamming them in season for terrible.
Mike Wright
How about Tony? Holla. Yeah.
Jason Moore
I faced Tony Pollard this week. That was great. We had some bad. And was it. I mean, it was real bad last night with Travis D. Kelsey.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Which caused a hat trick. Mahomes.
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Three.
Mike Wright
Three picks trashed in Genti. That's so mean.
Jason Moore
Disgusting. Jefferson.
Andy Holloway
That's their jamar waist.
Jason Moore
Oh, man.
Mike Wright
Breeze hall of Shame.
Andy Holloway
Oh, and then this guy that can't catch now Egg Puka. Yeah. Mecca Fluka.
Raining. It was wide open.
Jason Moore
I know.
Mike Wright
Kenneth Walker, the Turd Fart Andrews, Chris Nolaw and Darren Squalor.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think, I mean, a lot of expectations this week.
Andy Holloway
Squat.
Jason Moore
You can submit your Monday pundays at Fantasy footballers on Instagram, on X. At the footballers.
Andy Holloway
That one is. Look, if it wasn't close to Christmas, it wouldn't have made the list.
Jason Moore
I hope that's not a June one.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I would only accept that on Christmas Day.
Jason Moore
Okay. That's rough, that one. I deleted a couple others. That was some of the best. We're getting into the news.
Andy Holloway
News and notes from around the league, presented by Progressive Insurance.
Breaking news. Emeka Ibuka has forgotten how to catch the ball.
Now, I don't know if you guys know his line. I'm sure everyone in the world has seen his.
Awesome route. Just.
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah, he left the defense, nukes.
Andy Holloway
A guy to get wide open in the end zone and then gets a lobbed pass and then is like, I don't know how to catch.
Jason Moore
It did.
Mike Wright
In all fairness to Abuka, it hit him directly in the hands, right?
Andy Holloway
So it's like maybe that was hard.
Mike Wright
Not just. Maybe they needed.
Andy Holloway
Because all those amazing catches he made at the beginning of the year that were difficult. Maybe when Baker sees him, he's got to throw it a little away from him, like make it difficult.
Jason Moore
I'm like, I have to defend him. Wait, this is how I feel now.
Andy Holloway
How many targets do you think Abu had if you wasn't a lob?
Jason Moore
I just watched it. It's not a lob.
Mike Wright
If you were crushing Chris Olave for two weeks ago, not catching that bomb pass. You need to put Ebuka into Davy Jones locker.
Andy Holloway
Abuka had nine targets way easier. Nine targets, nine.
Mike Wright
That's a easier catch.
Jason Moore
I'm looking at this thing, man.
Andy Holloway
That's a drop of all drops.
Jason Moore
It is so not.
Mike Wright
That was a warm up.
Andy Holloway
All right, well, how about the rest? Because he caught two of his nine.
Jason Moore
Well, this has been the problem.
Andy Holloway
He caught two of his nine.
Jason Moore
This has been the problem.
Andy Holloway
Yards. He should have had an amazing game.
Jason Moore
That's the story of the last eight weeks. There's no defense.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's so weird because this guy, I mean, I love him. He was my favorite wide receiver coming out this year. He was a my guy. Off to a hot start. Has the hamstring injury in week seven. And then you turned off the faucet at that point.
Mike Wright
I would Go talk to whoever my friend is in my dynasty league and just crap all over a book and.
Andy Holloway
Be like, I'll take him off.
Mike Wright
Let me do you a solid.
Andy Holloway
I hate when people crap on someone and then they try to trade for him. Like, dude, I see right through you.
Jason Moore
What's been really wild is we saw the catch percentage with him, but like not bury the lead here. Like they lost to the Saints. Like, this is the division leader. Like Baker was an MVP candidate. And then it's really fallen apart for the entire offense. Like Baker in and of himself has been more inaccurate, more mistakes. The team can't move the offense. I mean, look at this. They have Godwin back, they lose to the Saints, they can't get enough points on the board.
Andy Holloway
The Saints are playing well. I don't think that the Saints defense look like a two or three win team. They're.
Mike Wright
They're.
Jason Moore
It is what they are, though.
Andy Holloway
No, I know, but they, they also started the majority of the season. They, you know, they were with the Rattler and for.
Mike Wright
To talk about Baker. I know like, things were kind of rough before the injury, but it's reminding me like in Cleveland, where I think it was. Was it year two or year three? I can't remember where. I mean, he was just beat up. He had a. One shoulder that was just annihilated. But because he's so tough, he plays through it. He plays through it and then you're like, well, you're not very good and if you didn't play well, you're a baby. He's in a. In a tough situation.
Jason Moore
Breaking news. Egbuca went gloves first quarter, no gloves second quarter.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
I would gloves back on in the fourth quarter.
Andy Holloway
You got to go double glove.
Mike Wright
No, I was going mj.
Andy Holloway
Did he have just the one glove?
Jason Moore
Did he have a. I was thinking.
Andy Holloway
What was the situation like? Glove two gloves on each other.
Jason Moore
Fourth quarter. Was gloves dumb.
Andy Holloway
A dumber style, like make your hands sweat.
Jason Moore
By the way, Baker, how many times in the last seven weeks has he thrown more than one touchdown pass in.
Andy Holloway
The last seven weeks?
Jason Moore
Seven weeks, once. One time.
Andy Holloway
That makes sense because there's one good game for a buck. He keeps throwing to a bucka. He's like, catch the ball, dude. Ibuka in the last.
Jason Moore
It wasn't just him. Godwin dropped a wide open touchdown last week.
Andy Holloway
Ibuka in the last eight games. So that's like half a season.
Jason Moore
I was hoping we'd never talk about him today. Sorry.
Andy Holloway
Half a season of Ebuka on pace.
Jason Moore
This Is the new session.
Andy Holloway
This is the breaking news. Half the season, eight games played. He is on pace for 153 targets. You can't ask for more than that. 60 catches.
Mike Wright
What?
Andy Holloway
40% catch rate?
Mike Wright
I can't remember.
Jason Moore
Well, he was catching everything in the beginning.
Andy Holloway
He has great hands. I mean, you can't really say that.
Mike Wright
Now, but someone tweeted it out. I can't like.
Jason Moore
But it really was raining.
Andy Holloway
It was raining, yes, for the last eight days.
Mike Wright
But it was like a book of. On the week was the number one most expected fantasy points.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. He had the whole world oyster and there was no pearl in that.
Jason Moore
We'll have to make decisions because. Yeah, that's. That's where they are. Where'd you think they came from?
Mike Wright
Clams.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, there we go.
Mike Wright
Do oysters do pearls too?
Jason Moore
No, oysters are where we come from.
Mike Wright
We are sounding real dumb right now.
Andy Holloway
Do pearls come from oysters?
Jason Moore
This is the dumbest thing.
Andy Holloway
Yes, pearls come from oysters.
Mike Wright
Of course.
Jason Moore
Well, I don't know, man. It's raining in here. We can't get our.
Andy Holloway
Also, pearls can come from clams as well.
Mike Wright
What else? Where else can you have?
Andy Holloway
I don't know.
Mike Wright
Give me some more pearl making animals.
Jason Moore
That come from crickets. Mussels.
Andy Holloway
Oh, mussels, mussels. Mussels can have pearls. That's what it says, dude. DK Metcalf has.
Jason Moore
I knew where it was going. Justin Herbert officially questionable but expected to play. Hampton's going to be activated off IR for tonight's game.
Andy Holloway
Let's go. Hampton, I need you. I need a big game.
Jason Moore
I saw people say Vidal or Hampton. If you needed a few point, like if you needed 10 points, who would you play?
Mike Wright
I'm going down with Hampton.
Jason Moore
I would go down. That's exactly my quote.
Mike Wright
I go down with Hampton, I will be Jack Sparrow. Just on that. On that ship going down, like if it goes into the ocean. Yeah, that's where we go to. We go together.
Jason Moore
We talked about Daniel Jones tearing his Achilles. This is devastating because if you. If you look at the Colts, they're fighting for their playoff lives. Anthony Richardson's on ir. He. He had fractured his. An orbital bone.
Mike Wright
Yeah. With I believe, an exercise band.
Jason Moore
An exercise band in warmups of a Cardinals game.
Mike Wright
Something like that.
Jason Moore
Riley Leonard is the quarterback now who was a six round pick out of Notre Dame. It is terrifying for Jonathan Taylor managers. It is terrifying for Alec Pierce managers. It's terrifying for Michael Pittman managers. Yeah, it is bad for all. It's bad for Tyler Warren managers.
Andy Holloway
Oh, for sure. What if you have Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman and heading into the playoffs as an underdog. Heading into the playoffs as an underdog.
Mike Wright
We obviously for a friend, it was like half a game or whatever, but Riley Leonard really hyper targeted Michael Pittman.
Andy Holloway
No, no, no. I know he had 34% target share in the past tips from Riley Leonard. That' all fine and dandy, but if you. I mean, we were watching the game. That game, by that time was such a blowout. The Colts were manhandled by the Jaguars. And so at the end of the game, I was watching those getting those juicy, stanky garbage points from Michael Pittman, but it was just a. It was like he'd take the snap, the defense drops back like 30 yards, and then he'd throw it six yards to Michael Pittman over and over and over.
Jason Moore
Sure.
Andy Holloway
That's just not.
Mike Wright
I mean, I got to give you some hope.
Jason Moore
But that's not the neutral situation.
Mike Wright
Exactly.
Jason Moore
No, it's terrible. Jaden Daniels also got hurt again.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
If you remember, my prize picks was the switch from Mario to Jaden. If they had Both combined for 200 points, would you have given me credit?
Andy Holloway
Did they?
Jason Moore
No. Then yes.
Andy Holloway
Then yes, I would have.
Jason Moore
It was terrible. And again, this injury.
We'Ve at least seen Mariota a lot, but it's not what you want.
Andy Holloway
Now the good news is it appears that the game was kind of out of hand. They got seasons out of hand, and so they didn't put Daniels back in the game. But it was said that they basically could have. That I think was a pain issue, not a re injury issue. So hopefully he's back next week. But it's also one of those things where it's like, it's very difficult to be like, why is he playing football? This team has three wins. There's very little play for. And he's obviously still dealing with an injured arm. I wouldn't want him in that situation. Now, in that same game, there was a real injury, a sad injury, a brutal injury, but we should have seen it coming.
Jason Moore
What do you mean you should have seen it coming?
Andy Holloway
Because of Mike.
Mike Wright
Oh, stop.
Andy Holloway
Mike's magical season, man.
Mike Wright
I did not want Ertz going out like that.
Andy Holloway
I know you don't, but you want. You want the senator.
Mike Wright
I want an opportunity for him.
Andy Holloway
And all of a sudden, your magical season, you got it.
Mike Wright
How dare you accuse me of dark magic.
Jason Moore
You do realize, I don't know if you've realized it. It's like shot for shot. What happened to Trey McBride.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
I mean, it's.
Andy Holloway
We were talking about it.
Jason Moore
It's a torn ACL for the same guy ahead of him in Zach Ertz. Zach Ertz is second torn acl. And you know, Jack Ertz has had an amazing career.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
I feel terrible for him if this is the way it ends, because it probably is. But that's just creepy.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah. It's almost identical. And so that. That means that Ben Sennett out of nowhere is going to be like the tight end one for the final month of the season.
Jason Moore
Please do not quote me on that.
Andy Holloway
No, I quote. Quote Mike on that.
Mike Wright
I didn't say anything. I know.
Andy Holloway
Quote him. He said it with his heart.
Jason Moore
He's trying to be upstanding over there. Geno Smith left early.
Mike Wright
I'm so excited for Ben Sinning.
Andy Holloway
Push the button.
Mike Wright
I don't even know what button to push.
Jason Moore
Oh, my God, dude.
Mike Wright
I forgot I had a button. I am.
Jason Moore
That's because he had to. No, that doesn't feel good after the arts injury.
Mike Wright
No, that's what I'm saying. Put that on me.
Andy Holloway
Dare you.
Jason Moore
Mike Benson is not doing nothing.
Andy Holloway
No, probably not.
Jason Moore
Geno Smith left with a right shoulder injury.
Andy Holloway
Bates. Bates is going to go.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Pete Carroll.
Mike Wright
Pete Carroll.
Jason Moore
Pete Carroll is one and done. Pete.
Mike Wright
Carol, what were you up to?
Andy Holloway
Is this the field goal?
Mike Wright
What were you up to, Pete?
Jason Moore
I cannot find any. Like, I like playing devil's advocate. I like finding the argument for the other side of things. If you didn't see it, they're down 10 points. They throw the ball down the field with 5 seconds left. The coat. The referees call a penalty. So there's two seconds left on the clock after a penalty. They're down 10 and they kicked a field goal.
Mike Wright
To think it was a couple more seconds than two.
Jason Moore
It was to end the game, right? Yeah.
Mike Wright
But yeah, time ran out.
Jason Moore
Time was going to run out.
Mike Wright
They thought somehow they would kick a.
Jason Moore
Field goal while time runs out and.
Mike Wright
What?
Jason Moore
No.
Mike Wright
And you have one second left and then recover the onside and score the touchdown.
Jason Moore
Is that what they described it as?
Mike Wright
No, that's. That's the only way I can think of them.
Jason Moore
The line was eight and a half.
Andy Holloway
I can tell you. I can tell you genuinely the Devils have.
Mike Wright
What are you up to?
Andy Holloway
The devil's advocate story is easy to me if I am the head coach and I know that the line is eight and a half. This isn't a betting thing. Like, I have bet, but I want. I want to cover the spread. I wanted to. I want to cover that spread just so I'm kicking the field goal. It's literally to cover the spread.
Jason Moore
That is 100% a betting thing. And as a coach, you should never pay attention to any of that stuff ever.
Mike Wright
It was Peter. I mean, Peter. Peter. I mean, it's like I've. I've done this in Madden.
Where you're.
Andy Holloway
Like, not in the NFL.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Like the game is over. You're like, yeah, but I lost by less.
Jason Moore
Mafia was like unlimited bubble gum forever.
Mike Wright
I mean, Peter, Peter. It was weird.
Jason Moore
Pete to Rod Taylor, as always injured and the team will play the guy that's best for the team in the future weeks.
Mike Wright
Well, Justin Fields was inactive with a knee injury and I can't even remember the guy who played Cook.
Jason Moore
Is that right?
What's his name?
Mike Wright
Brady Cook.
Jason Moore
Brady Cook, quarterback at Missouri. Let him Cook. Yeah. Okay. Garrett Wilson is eligible to come off of IR this week. If I were him, I would say.
Mike Wright
No, thanks, I'm good. What are you. I am not eligible.
Jason Moore
Just sign here to come off ir.
Andy Holloway
No, I would go. I would be like, yeah. Heck yeah, man. Let me go out there. I'm going to take a.
Sorry, guys.
Jason Moore
The Von Hn left early with a rib injury, did not return. Mike McDaniel says he was available to return. I was happy that that wasn't a knee or lower body injury. He seems like he'll be fine.
Andy Holloway
He might be able to play with a flak jacket and McDaniel said that he will. He said, I like something along the lines of, I promise he will be there if he's ready. I'm following this closely because I play against HN next week, so. Also he love Buddy Take.
Jason Moore
That's the team you're playing in our league of record.
Mike Wright
It is.
Jason Moore
You're playing against Gibbs and Josh and.
Andy Holloway
Josh Allen and HN and I lost, basically Jonathan Taylor, Michael Pittman and CD Lamb. So see you guys on the fishing hole.
I'll be out by the side if.
Mike Wright
He wanted to go boat.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
If you want, you should fishing. You should call your shot and start driving before the game. Before the games start. Just start driving wherever the fish are.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Give my fishing pole, my fishing rod.
Jason Moore
Oh, my gosh. You're asking us how to fish. Keaton Mitchell left with the knee injury. He had a big run. DK Metcalf powered down. Yeah.
Mike Wright
I don't know if you guys out there saw the run. It was Keaton. It's Keaton Mitchell, whose calling card is speed, speed.
Andy Holloway
Fastest guy.
Mike Wright
And he Broke to the outside and got caught because he like.
Jason Moore
Did you see the college play that happened last?
Andy Holloway
Oh, my gosh.
Mike Wright
I showed Mike where he.
Jason Moore
Where a guy's wide open. There's no one in front of him for. And he's got like a defender six yards behind him, and he's just got the sideline to run up and he's at about the 30. Just runs out of bounds. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And the commentators like, no one's gonna catch this guy. He ran out of bounds. What did he do?
Jason Moore
There was no momentum.
Andy Holloway
No. He just chose to like, left turn left. I want to end this play.
Jason Moore
It was so.
Andy Holloway
I've never seen anything like that.
Jason Moore
DK Metcalf stayed overnight in Baltimore after going to a local hospital following the game, experiencing stomach pains. We haven't heard anything else.
Mike Wright
The stomach pains were.
He got target volume and he didn't know what to do with it.
Jason Moore
Let me just say this.
Mike Wright
DK Metcalf dominated.
Jason Moore
Assuming he's perfectly healthy and jokes are allowed. It's skittles.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's definitely skittles.
Jason Moore
David Najoku left early with a left knee injury. Harold man in junior. Boy, he's a great player.
Andy Holloway
He is.
Jason Moore
That's the player I would be targeting heavily in dynasty leagues because I still feel like his true value is not. The value is now.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah. David Najoku. I mean, even. Even. We'll talk about it tomorrow on the waiver show. But, like, Joku caught a touchdown, went down with an injury Fan and rest of season is a great play.
Jason Moore
Najoku is a free agent.
Andy Holloway
No, I don't think so. I think he's got a contract.
Mike Wright
I'll check that out. But I went and did some diving.
Jason Moore
He's a free age.
Mike Wright
Because if. If you. If you out there did not see. Looked like Mason Taylor possibly maybe broke a tackle on a.
Jason Moore
You're saying it didn't count as one.
Mike Wright
And so I was like, man, I want to see what the graders did. So it's like PFF fantasy points. I went and I checked that out. They did not give Mason Taylor the. The. The. For the missed tackle force or however they want to credit. But at the top of that list, Harold Fannin. This is PFF's great.
Harold Fannin is credit. I mean, it's also like juking people and things like that. It's. It's forcing a misstab.
Jason Moore
So he's probably just got a few more.
Mike Wright
He's at 20.
Andy Holloway
Oh, my.
Mike Wright
Trey McBride is second with 13. Harold Fannin has 20 and McBride does.
Jason Moore
It all the time.
Mike Wright
And by the way, Colston Loveland has more than Tyler Warren with two fewer games. Just want to. You mean just want to throw that out.
Jason Moore
You mean Colston Dog.
Mike Wright
Yeah, the. The dog commentary.
Jason Moore
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Jason Moore
All right, week 14. Let's talk studs.
Andy Holloway
This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's.
Jason Moore
Well, the fantasy playoffs are here and they're those of you with Josh Allen. You're hoping you get this. Josh Allen, he was unbelievable. Number one on the week. Shador Sanders, number two.
Mike Wright
Guys, I was at the. The big dome meeting last night. We took a beating.
Jason Moore
You did. You did.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I was there. I was there. It was.
Mike Wright
It was tough.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
We were all very much coping with the situation. Yeah. This is of the majestic snow game that gave us a bajillion points.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Two of the top three players during.
Andy Holloway
This, I was like, this is.
Jason Moore
This is bad for you.
Andy Holloway
This is bad for business.
This game is beautiful. Yeah, it's awesome. Quarterbacks playing out of their mind. I mean, and the aesthetic was wonderful. Gorgeous, man. What a great game. It was awesome. I was like, this sucks, man. This is terrible.
Jason Moore
It's perfect timing. After I said, you need. You need a good snow game, man.
Andy Holloway
We got one.
Mike Wright
We got one. Yeah.
Jason Moore
And you got two of the three top scorers.
Mike Wright
Quarterback we got in the Cleveland game. As gross as it was, that one had points, too.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Shedeurs. Number two on the week, burrow three, Stafford, who just played with his food in Arizona. And Sam Darnold at 5. And Sam Darnold looked like they were doing nothing. Halfway through.
Mike Wright
Through the first half of that game, I was. The concern was.
Jason Moore
And then the Falcons defender turned their helmets on backwards.
Mike Wright
It was growing of like you had a week where the Minnesota Vikings showed the NFL. This is how you stop jsn. This is how you stop Sam Darwin.
Jason Moore
Exactly what I was thinking.
Mike Wright
We know. We know how. Why do you think we let him go? Because we know that you do this one thing and you can stop him. And then a whole half of the Falcons doing it and then they didn't. Yeah. I mean, it kicked off with a Rashid Shahid return teams.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
But then JSN just went crazy.
Jason Moore
So. Yeah. This is New England next week for Josh Allen. So you're in New England next week.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
With a divisional battle.
Andy Holloway
Jer Gummett.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you're super thrilled about that.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man. Congrats to those of you with Josh Allen. My condolences to those playing against him.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I am. Out in New England, he only scored 19 points against them in week five. Just for what it's worth. But this one's going to be worth a lot in this division. He is the first quarterback ever with three seasons of 20 plus passing touchdowns and 10 plus rushing touchdowns and nine for 78 on the ground, including what like a 45 yard run right up the middle. He's beaten Mahomes this year. He's beaten Lamar, he's beaten Burrow. Let me just tell you, in case you don't know, Joshua, it's now. The time is now. This is your super bowl run. The Chiefs have a 14% chance to make the playoffs. I don't think they're going to make the playoffs. You don't have to go through Mahomes or Lamar. You got to go through Bo Nicks.
Mike Wright
No, you got to go through Drake.
Jason Moore
You got to go through Drake May.
Andy Holloway
It's funny, you're going to go through those guys. You say this season he's excellent. This season he's beaten Mahomes, Lamar and Burrows. Like, okay, well beat good teams. You know what I mean?
Mike Wright
Like okay, okay, note here, but somehow he lost to Michael Penix Tua and Davis Mills.
Jason Moore
It doesn't matter in the playoffs, in the play. This is your time, Josh. Please don't miss it. The Suns. The Suns had a chance to go to the finals twice when Jordan was retired. And they let Hakeem Olajuwon do it instead of you. This is your time.
Andy Holloway
Don't.
Jason Moore
You don't think Mahomes is making it next year. Just go get your title, Buffalo. And to the, to the Denver fans and the New England fans. You got enough time. You guys are young.
Mike Wright
I agree.
Jason Moore
No, I think Buffalo is definitely good enough.
Mike Wright
I think that it is their time. I'm on Jason's side of. I don't know.
Andy Holloway
They just. They've had so many games this year where they haven't shown up, especially on the road.
Jason Moore
I think it's time. I would put all my money on them making the Super Bowl.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
I'm really. I think they'll take advantage of it. And the nice thing is their head coach, the defensive football in the playoffs. I think they're built for this.
Andy Holloway
But you know that they don't get to throw to the tight end every play against non Cincinnati Bengals opponents.
Jason Moore
They will have to Throw to one of those whiteouts.
Andy Holloway
Mike's start of the week was the.
Mike Wright
Whoever was starting for the Bills.
Andy Holloway
The Bills tight ends.
Jason Moore
And they both scored.
Andy Holloway
Not just both. Three of them scored.
Jason Moore
That's right. Jackson Haas scored.
Andy Holloway
Every play was a throw to a tight end. The Bengals can't guard tight ends. It's wild.
Jason Moore
Oh, I guess Dawson Knox technically didn't score. He just went six for 93. Dawson and a two point conversion.
Mike Wright
Dawson Knox had 93 yards.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Dawson Knox.
Mike Wright
That's embarrassing.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that's like a career. And that's the end of the sentence.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
For him. Chador Sanders. 364 and three. And then they inexplicably took him off the field for the two point conversion so that Quinshon Judkins would forget to pitch it and look like he was playing street ball.
Mike Wright
That was frustrating. I loved it. They did the analytical. You're down by 14. You score. So you go for two because you have a 50. The analytics are you have about a 50% chance of getting the two. So should you not get it the first time, you still have a good chance to get it and tie it the next time.
Jason Moore
And they got neither.
Andy Holloway
And you're.
Mike Wright
Yeah, they didn't get either of them. I mean, you're playing to win. I love that. But then the play call on the second one. What was that?
Jason Moore
Rookie quarterbacks with 350 passing yards, three passing touchdowns and a rushing touchdown in a game. So all time. This is from NFL and cbs. Joe Burrow.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Shador Sanders.
Mike Wright
Nice. Wow.
Keep it going.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Joe Burrow was 284 and four. He played great. Except for two plays back to back.
Andy Holloway
Near the end of the game.
Jason Moore
It was just unbelievable. One of them was real, real bad. Like Jason when we played flag football.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
My buddy, his dream was to knock the ball down or actually just catch it out of the air.
Andy Holloway
Straight catch and just run as a D lineman. Like catch it right next to the quarterback and keep running.
Jason Moore
So Burrow basically kills their season. They basically have no hope of making the playoffs now. I don't know if they're technically. They are not.
Andy Holloway
They are not.
Jason Moore
They probably in the division.
Andy Holloway
The fact that Baltimore lost. The fact that Baltimore lost. They are still in it. It's wild.
Jason Moore
They need just to win the division.
Mike Wright
Yeah. They need to beat the Ravens and.
Andy Holloway
They need who they play this week.
Mike Wright
They need Pittsburgh to lose two. I don't think they need the Steelers to lose every.
Jason Moore
So you could be sub 500 win in that division.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Matthew Stafford Jason start of the week 281 and three. Could have thrown for five more if he wanted to.
Andy Holloway
He was bored probably Lions this week. That's going to be a fun game.
Jason Moore
Sam Darnold got it going after a slow start. Three touchdown passes. Tyler Shuck, Mike Streamer on Tuesday. Two rushing touchdowns. Dog.
Andy Holloway
And how many yards?
Jason Moore
Oh, on the ground?
Mike Wright
55. And this wasn't just scrambling. I mean like they're running read options with Tyler Schuck and he's picking up huge yardage. His touchdown run was on a read option. It.
Maybe. Maybe.
Jason Moore
I see Lamar in here.
Mike Wright
Yeah. He had. Because he had a. He had a fine game.
Jason Moore
Do you feel like he had a.
Andy Holloway
Good game by comparison of what you have been experiencing? He had the best game of his career.
Jason Moore
Did he have a. Did he have a game worthy of.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean I was. If you started him, you were happy that you. That you have him in your lineup. He had a rushing touchdown, a passing touchdown, 43 rushing yards.
Mike Wright
Had to.
Jason Moore
Likely touchdown. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So I think he was fine. And yeah. I mean I said it this week that I would still play Lamar over most of the second tier guys next week in Cincinnati. I will do the same.
Jason Moore
J.J. mcCarthy 16 for 23. 163 and 3. Do you feel like he did what he was supposed to do? That he outperformed what you expected?
Andy Holloway
He did.
Jason Moore
He did not provide fantasy value for Justin Jefferson.
Andy Holloway
Exactly what the Vikings needed. They needed to put him in a situation in positions to be successful. All the. All the touchdowns went to the tight end to tight ends because one. One was Hawkinson. But it was. At least it lets Vikings, not just fans, the staff just breathe.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
It lets them just like be able to. Be able to have some oxygen and be like. Okay, let's. Let's see if we can do this.
Jason Moore
Jacoby Brissette garbage. Timed it. I don't know if we want to.
Mike Wright
Oh, that was. That was stinky garbage.
Jason Moore
Shoe. 71 and 2. Got it done for you. Both of them going to Wilson running back Top five scores of the week. There's some here. Here's what it is. There's Jameer Gibbs. He is looking like. Especially with the Josh Jonathan Taylor situation. Man, Gibbs looks like the best running back in football right now.
Andy Holloway
Plays the Rams this week.
Jason Moore
That'll be tough. Okay. You. Because you know that.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Hasn't he. He's been fluctuating like zero or three touchdowns. Right.
Jason Moore
Jason has already painted his path to the semifinals.
Andy Holloway
I need. I need some.
Jason Moore
The number Two and number three scores were the two running backs I faced in league of records.
Andy Holloway
That's what.
Mike Wright
That's impossible.
Andy Holloway
That is impossible. There's no way that you face.
Jason Moore
You must.
Andy Holloway
Tony Pollard and Blake Corum and they both went off the number two. That's your so okay Foot clan.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
This has been a bad year for Andy.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
You sold halfway through the season and invested for next year. We're a keeper league, yada, yada. But we played.
Mike Wright
Good decision.
Jason Moore
Yes, it was.
Andy Holloway
We play in about like four main leagues and like eight leagues total. You know, four we don't care about.
Mike Wright
Way too many.
Andy Holloway
You are in. If not every single one. If not every single one.
Jason Moore
Paying penance.
Andy Holloway
Almost every single. I think there might be one where you're like the second most points scored against you.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Every league you are the most points scored against you.
Jason Moore
It's. It's amazing. And this by the way, my opponent this week was one of the worst teams in the league. They scored the most.
Andy Holloway
They played Tony Pollard and Blake Corum.
Jason Moore
Who went number two and three on the week.
Mike Wright
Oh, he went number two on you.
Andy Holloway
I need to stay away from Andy.
Jason Moore
I did the math in one of the leagues and it amounts to like, it's like 20 something points a week more scored against me than like oh.
Mike Wright
Above expectation than your own.
Jason Moore
So like I start with a minus 20 every week. It's. I just had to laugh at this point. Travis ETN, number four, got into the end zone twice. RJ Harvey at 19. There you go.
Andy Holloway
He's coming on strong.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So yeah, I'm looking at the numbers here. Tony Pollard was started in only 25% of league as that was like 25% too many.
Mike Wright
Those are.
Jason Moore
It's Cleveland. Go to Cleveland, start Tony Pollard and it works. No, we shouldn't have jobs.
Mike Wright
Neither should the Cleveland defense. Yeah, like how does that happen?
Jason Moore
Devon HM was great. Got knocked out early. Only had eight touches and still ends up dominating.
Mike Wright
He's so good.
Jason Moore
He is so good.
Andy Holloway
Seven carries for 92 yards.
Jason Moore
I mean if you look at his game log for the entire year, his worst fantasy finishes of the year. I'm going to read the five worst running back, 13, 16, 16, 17. 17. Otherwise he's top 10.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And what is his fewest half PPR points in a single game all year? His worst. Worst of the worst is 11.3 points. When I see double digits from my player, you're not always happy. But I'm fine. I'm not upset. I'm like, okay, have you seen his.
Jason Moore
Consistency ranking on our site.
Andy Holloway
I mean it's an A.
Jason Moore
It's an A. But you know what the percentage is? It's 94.1%.
Andy Holloway
That's outrageous.
Jason Moore
That is games exceeding 10.5 in the last 17 played.
Mike Wright
He's going to improve on that.
Jason Moore
Two starts of the week did well. Chase Brown scored.
Mike Wright
Thank goodness for those touchdowns through the.
Jason Moore
Air and on the ground. And then Devin Neal.
Andy Holloway
There's a lot of P Rine.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it really has. Since P. Ryan's been back. It has been a decent amount and.
It was even closer. It felt like it was closer last week or on Sunday I think I'm assuming because of the conditions of the game.
Jason Moore
Devin Neal, 19 for 70 and a touchdown.
Mike Wright
Yeah, baby.
Jason Moore
And then pay attention here because Nick Chubb got hurt. Not that the work wasn't all going his way But Woody marks 26 opportunities on the ground. This is a defensive first team that is going to lean on the running game. Woody Marks got some big first downs at the end of the game when everybody knew they were running.
Andy Holloway
The football plays the Cardinals and the Raiders the next two weeks.
Jason Moore
He is a delicious, really, really good start.
Andy Holloway
As a reminder, Blake Corum running back to against the Cardinals.
Jason Moore
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wide receivers Puka, Michael Wilson, JSNT Higgins, Christian Watson.
Puka is just unbelievable.
Mike Wright
If they let Puka score touchdowns. He's the number one wide receiver on the week.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean well, you're talking about a guy who is currently the number two wide receiver on the year without them. So I mean he's, he's unstoppable. And Christian Watson.
Jason Moore
Yeah, let's talk about Christian Watson. He's got Denver next week, then Chicago both on the road. But he has been so important not just to fantasy players but to Jordan Love.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I mean since he's been back, you look at the last month, you know he's been relevant every single week. 5 targets, 7 targets, 10 targets. This last week was his worst target count.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Because with only four targets but he had 82 yards and two touchdowns. He's used around the goal line. He is such an athletic like this team really needed him because they spent a first round draft pick on a third round which was a mistake. But Christian Watson is good.
Jason Moore
Do you feel good about Jordan Love in the fantasy playoffs? He's got no four touchdowns last week, three this week you did not feel good. He's been a top 12 three out of four years.
Mike Wright
Very, very well.
Jason Moore
I'm just thinking Jaden Reed's back. Christian Watson is Dominating. They have weapons now again.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean his consistency rating is still an F 29% of his. Well, that I realize now.
Jason Moore
He's 17 weeks now he's talking about right now weapons.
Andy Holloway
But if you're talking right now he plays Denver in Denver in the fantasy playoffs.
Jason Moore
I don't know, man.
Andy Holloway
I would be hard pressed to. I wouldn't want to go into my fantasy playoffs with my quarterback playing against Denver unless he's like Josh Allen.
Jason Moore
Okay. Ryan Flournoy. If CD Lamb misses this week, 13 targets, nine for 115, he could be worth a shot against Minnesota. But that'd be a scary start.
Mike Wright
A backup option situation and that's a tough defense.
Jason Moore
DK Metcalf and Zay Flowers, who.
Mike Wright
Where has this been?
Jason Moore
You had to start both of these guys and they both had their best.
Mike Wright
Weeks of the year.
Jason Moore
Really.
Mike Wright
I've been starting these guys all year long. Where has this been.
This week?
Andy Holloway
Didn't matter. You're basically on a buy, a pre buy buy week because you're already locked up in the buy and then get it out of the way Now Metcalf.
Mike Wright
And flowers, 12 targets for DK Metcalf is like.
Where has this been? This is you. This is what you traded for. This is what you paid him for. Why did it take until week 14 to surpass a double digit targets in one single game?
Jason Moore
This turned into a passing affair and Zay Flowers ended up with 11 targets on the other side, eight for 124.
Mike Wright
Gotta hope that it continues. Will it?
Jason Moore
Tight ends on the week. Harold Phantom was number one, Gasicki two Josh Oliver.
Mike Wright
Yeah, two touchdowns will do that.
Jason Moore
Dawson Knox. Rock Bowers.
Mike Wright
Dawson Knox.
Jason Moore
You know, Bowers was the most disappointing 12 points of your life because it was the first drive of the game, a long touchdown and then you're like, oh baby, here comes 30. And it was. That was basically it. Because that team is so bad.
Mike Wright
They are very bad.
Jason Moore
4 for 46 and 1. And then Kyle Pitts 6 for 90 brought him up. He was a start of the week. Last week he had 82 yards. This week he had 90 yards. No Drake London just makes it really accessible for him to be relevant.
Mike Wright
If London is back next week, I would probably bail out.
Andy Holloway
I agree.
Jason Moore
And then.
Andy Holloway
But Loveland Colson Loveland, who got in the end zone, didn't have a big game, 4 for 29 but got a touchdown. It is worth noting like if Rome is out there is fantasy value to be had there. Because the issue with the Bears has been just they're spreading it around too much with Burden and Loveland and Rome and, you know, in DJ Moore now. I think Rome's going to miss a couple of weeks.
Jason Moore
All right, well, Loveland was 4 for 29 and 1 over the last six weeks. He is the tight end. Three in total. Fantasy points. Wow. Let's take a break and talk duds.
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Andy Holloway
Pooped in his big boy pants.
Jason Moore
Well.
Houston has a really tremendous defense. Did you guys. Were you aware of that?
Andy Holloway
They have not given up a quarterback one performance on the year. They've played Josh Allen. Now they've played Patrick Mahomes. I said I would play Mahomes in this matchup.
Jason Moore
In hindsight, would you?
Andy Holloway
I would not. In hindsight, I would certainly not play my home.
Jason Moore
163 picks, no touchdowns. But don't throw them away because they're going to be fighting for their playoff lives. And they play Tennessee in two weeks. They play two more home games. The Chargers in Denver.
Mike Wright
That Denver game is.
Jason Moore
The Denver game's tough. Yeah. But I think in the next couple of weeks you could do worse.
Andy Holloway
For sure. Oh, man. You know, the whole. An immovable force versus unstoppable. Yeah, whatever. Yeah. You realize that next week there is a team playing that has not given up a top 12 performance for the quarterback against a team who has a quarterback that has not not finished in the top 12 all season. Not, not, not, not. Who's there? So. So we're back every time, man.
Mike Wright
I love it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
So tell us the matches.
Andy Holloway
Jacoby Brissette. Playable. The guy who can't.
Jason Moore
I was against Houston.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Gets. No, no, no.
Jason Moore
This will be the end of this streak. He Cardinals are garbage. Cardinals are playing like tryout dudes at wide receiver right now. People that have never. Like, their jerseys are blank on the back. They don't have the names.
Andy Holloway
That's just magic Mark we could have.
Jason Moore
Given it says player. The Cardinal season is so over and I have to restrain myself from what I say on this show about the Cardinals.
Mike Wright
Leave them, Leave them.
Jason Moore
Who cares? Let me just say this. I.
Would love it if Jonathan Gannon wanted to be an astronaut because I would love to see him in outer space.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it'd be cool if he was the first, like, astronaut.
Jason Moore
Do you like that?
Andy Holloway
To land on the sun.
Jason Moore
You know, the first astronaut to explore the sun. I'm just saying I would like him to have that honor.
Andy Holloway
Yes. So that we can explore the universe. Remember him fondly.
Jason Moore
Spacesuit option.
Mike Wright
What a hero.
Andy Holloway
What a hero. He touched the sun.
Jonathan. Icarus. Gannon.
Jason Moore
I. There was a Greek mythology joke.
Mike Wright
The.
Admit it. There was a part of you that thought we were waking up to the big surprise. You know you didn't. I thought there was a chance we were waking up and Gannon was gone. Oh, I thought there was an app.
Jason Moore
You mean because he's a defensive minded head coach and we've given up 40 plus points to division mates for like five times this year, but we've never did that five times in 23 years.
Mike Wright
Yesterday's performance, I thought there's a chance.
Andy Holloway
It's not really fair to Gannon because they invested their entire draft class on the defensive side of the ball.
Jason Moore
I. It could happen today, Mike. I still think it could happen.
Mike Wright
It could.
Jason Moore
It could happen. Bo Nicks, 31.
Mike Wright
Oh, that 31 for 38.
Jason Moore
Bo Nix. No touchdowns. It's the most bonus dominant, dominant performance of all time.
Mike Wright
This dude's so weird. He is 31 of 38. Like, that's a. That's a good game.
Jason Moore
He just feels like the guy and. Excuse me, Denver, I know you're amazing and you're 11 and 2 and you deserve all the credit. Sort of, but.
Mike Wright
Sort of the team does. No, I know they do, but maybe not Bo Nicks.
Jason Moore
It just feels like there's like five cool dies cool guys walking down the street and then Bo Nicks is in the cool guy outfit. That's what it feels like to me.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Jason Moore
He wears the leather jacket and the sunglasses, but if he tried to smoke a cigarette, he would choke. Do you know what I mean?
Mike Wright
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you.
Jason Moore
I need to stop making analogies. Today, Baker Mayfield struggled big time. 122 passing yards. You can say all you want about a buka and he struggled, but 122 total passing yards, that's insane because seven.
Andy Holloway
Uncaught targets to Buka. He needs to just start throwing it to Tez.
Jason Moore
Well, that you can't catch every target, Jay. And if you watch this game, you'd understand that there was some nastiness in there.
Mike Wright
Tyler Shuck played well.
Jason Moore
Yeah, but what did he throw for? Under. Under 200 as well. Yeah, it's crazy.
Mike Wright
That game more than Baker.
Jason Moore
That game was rainy.
Andy Holloway
That was. It was a very bad weather game. It was our one feather in the cap of our dome. Big dome.
Mike Wright
Their stat lines are actually very, very close. Except Baker didn't have two rushing touchdowns.
Jason Moore
Disappointing running backs. Are you worried about any of them? Breeze, Hall, Ashton, Genty, Quinch on Judkins, Kenneth Walker. I'm not going to put Chris Rodriguez. Rodriguez was great.
Mike Wright
No. 10 for 52 against Minnesota with that one.
Jason Moore
Doesn't make sense.
Mike Wright
Well, I want. What was the schedule? What's his upcoming schedule? Don't do that.
Jason Moore
Giants.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
84 yards for quinch on junk. Judkins junkins was not. Quinch on junk was not that bad. The one. The one I'm worried about right now is probably Breece hall simply because we're going to the fantasy playoffs. I don't know that they have a quarterback very similar to like Jonathan Taylor. Like, we. Losing Daniel Jones hurts him tremendously. You're going to put 11 guys in the box and just be like, all we got to do is stop him. And Breece Hall's like the last man standing. And even if he gets 20 opportunities, don't know if it's enough. He plays in Jacksonville. Against Jacksonville. Very good defense.
Mike Wright
So how does John Doe come in at quarterback and not throw the ball to Breeze Hall?
Andy Holloway
Because you get the ball and you go, I'm scared.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's why. And I'd be terrified. And Breeze hall is awesome.
Andy Holloway
It might be better. It might be better in the target game when you're not coming in midway through a game unexpected. Give him some practice. Give him, you know, a strategy of checking down to.
Jason Moore
We should be worried about Ashton Genty. He plays Philly and Houston on the road the next two weeks.
Mike Wright
You should be very worried.
Jason Moore
And you don't even know of his. Gino, could it get worse? Yeah, it can get worse than giving. Yeah.
Mike Wright
For everyone who always, like, get that quarterback out of here.
Jason Moore
Yeah. We have a.
Andy Holloway
We have.
Jason Moore
Minnesota has a story for you. His name is Max Brosmer.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Big names in the wide receiver duds, by the way. Jamar Chase.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
T. Higgins. Justin Jefferson. Buka crushed Jefferson in production. Crushed him 2 for 15 versus 2 for 11.
Mike Wright
I mean, like Jamar Chase. No, I'm not concerned in the.
Jason Moore
If you played Chase Jefferson, a book in your lineup this week, I want to see the screenshot at Andy Holloway on Twitter because you must have felt really good going into the week.
Mike Wright
So, Justin Jefferson against Dallas this upcoming week in your fantasy football playoffs. Can you do it?
Jason Moore
You can? Should you? I don't think so.
Mike Wright
Okay. I'm using the. Okay, mister.
Jason Moore
Well, no, I mean, look, I don't know.
Mike Wright
Can you.
Jason Moore
I thought you could this week. I thought you could this week.
Mike Wright
That's what I mean. So it's Dallas, and I think the Dallas defense.
Jason Moore
Dallas is my worst.
Mike Wright
They might be a little bit better.
Jason Moore
Than Washington but not the passing defense they're defending of quarterbacks and wide receivers is still. And no matter what category you break it down to, even recent weeks they've struggled. I think they've never not given up points above expectation to quarterbacks unless they did this past week.
Mike Wright
Justin Jefferson will be the scariest start of everything. Makes sense. Nine just had like I think his first complete game. Even though if and if you watch it, I mean there's so many times where you're just, you're screaming at the television that game. How do you not see the wide open wide receiver?
Jason Moore
The reason I would do it, I'm going to officially say I would do it. The reason I would do it is because this was Minnesota defensively dominated the football game. They had multiple interceptions, turnovers, short fields. McCarthy had to do stuff for about a quarter and a half. That's really all he ever had to do. Dallas is going to score a million points. They always do. They're going to compete.
Andy Holloway
Hopefully. I don't think we'll have a lot of Justin Jefferson questions next week.
Jason Moore
Not because of the number one question.
Andy Holloway
But you have to keep in mind you have to be in the playoffs. Yeah. So if you had Justin Jefferson, that part is true. You probably don't have any questions because your season is done. I mean that's just the truth. You've been starting him and he's been.
Jason Moore
Just l L Junk.
Andy Holloway
Quinton junk. It's oh real quick to get back to Ashton Jensen because you were talking about this. You said you're worried about him. Whatever. Tough schedule coming up. I just was. Look, Ash and Genti, first round, top of the first round. Rookie running back or seventh round pick Kyle Manungai.
Mike Wright
Oh man.
Andy Holloway
Rushing yards on the season, 665 to 648. Manangai has 17 fewer yards than Ash and Genty on the season right now.
Jason Moore
Where's Woody Marks?
Andy Holloway
Woody Marks is right there. Woody Marks is 554 on rushing yards but obviously he didn't really get the work until recently.
Jason Moore
You just named two playoff teams and that is not what Las Vegas Travion Henderson 625.
Andy Holloway
He's right there. Didn't play the first half of the year.
Mike Wright
You have to have your offensive line in place before you draft a top 10 running back.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Moore
Well said.
Andy Holloway
Proven.
Mike Wright
It's like well said sometimes it will work for you. There's exceptions to every rule but that.
Jason Moore
If you build your offensive line you can succeed with a fifth round running back. That is also.
Mike Wright
That's when you go to the running backs don't matter. But it's like if you put Ashton Genty behind a superstar offensive line, he would dominate and he would be better.
Jason Moore
Than Manungai and Marks.
Mike Wright
Yes, into the same.
Jason Moore
In the same situation. But when you don't have it at all, you can't expect it to solve your running game. Drafting a really good running back. Devonte Adams, worst fantasy game of the year, 4 for 29. He was not targeted inside the five, but he did have two back to back end zone targets on the first drive of the game and they somehow didn't work. I'm not worried about it. George Pickens. We saw the Thursday night effort. It wasn't great. Chris Olave, three for 30.
Surprising.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it was disappointing. That was that rainy weather game. So whatever.
Jason Moore
I mean 4 for 34 dropped a.
Mike Wright
I mean it's the whole one. It was the whole Chiefs. I think Kareem Hunt got a touchdown. Right. They just, they could not handle the Houston defense.
Andy Holloway
They were down. Their offensive line was.
Mike Wright
Yeah, yeah. They lost their left in the first play of the game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And when you came in with offensive line struggles, then you lose your tackle and you're playing the Texans. That is tough sledding.
Jason Moore
Kelsey. Mark Andrews, Tyler Warren, just two for 15. Oh, little worried about this quarterback situation for Tyler Warren in the playoffs.
That's, that's Papa Josh and Falcon, right? Tyler Warren, Are you worried about that, Falcon? Yes. Thanks.
Andy Holloway
Would you rather have Tyler Warren or Mark Andrews next week at Cincinnati? Mark Andrews.
Jason Moore
Let me ask you one more follow up. Would you rather have Blake Corum, this week's number two finisher or the guy you have, Kyron Williams?
Mike Wright
Probably Corum, I mean.
Andy Holloway
No, no.
Jason Moore
I was actually thinking about this. It's Kyron. Kyron is the answer. But they've said they're going to conserve him for the playoffs. But Corum, the NFL playoffs, the next three weeks are fantasy playoffs.
Mike Wright
I do wonder, didn't Corum have the huge run at the end of the game?
Andy Holloway
Monster run.
Mike Wright
No, I know, I know he was involved.
Jason Moore
He was dominating before that.
Mike Wright
But it's like the. That so much of your production is one carry when it was already in the blowout.
Jason Moore
It wasn't.
Mike Wright
What was that touchdown run?
Andy Holloway
I mean 48 yards.
Mike Wright
A 48 yard touchdown.
Andy Holloway
48 yard touchdown.
Jason Moore
He had 120. He had 128 yards and two rushing touchdowns. And he got. I mean he still only had 33%.
Andy Holloway
Kyren was still great. Kyron was top 10 running back on the week. And then they blew him out. And then Corum got more work. So.
Jason Moore
It just freaks me out for fantasy playoffs that any snaps go to Blake Cor. Sure. That's all. Because he's been really good.
There you go. Tight ends, though, those are disappointing. Darren Waller, three targets, one for 13. They.
Mike Wright
That one was a ball.
Jason Moore
They were dominating this game on the ground again.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man. And it's funny you brought up Ollie Gordon.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
As your backup option.
Mike Wright
He did.
Andy Holloway
He was totally fine.
Jason Moore
But it was Jalen Wright.
Andy Holloway
Jalen Wright who really dominated the touchdown. I think he had over 20 carries and they just ran all. All over them.
Mike Wright
I mean, it was Jalen Wright, currently the running back. Five on the week, 24 for 107 with a score.
Andy Holloway
Breaking news.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's fair.
Jason Moore
Not normally breaking news, but on this show, on this day when the playoffs.
Mike Wright
Are on the line, CD Lamb.
Andy Holloway
Which.
Mike Wright
Way is it going to go?
Andy Holloway
Oh, my gosh.
Jason Moore
How did we not. That's terrible camera work, by the way. We should have been right on Jason's camera.
Andy Holloway
Okay, CD Lamp.
Jason Moore
CD Lamp. Now, you don't know what I'm going to say.
Andy Holloway
I have no idea. But this matters.
Jason Moore
It's CD Lamp blank. So I'll play the like. What is that called?
Mike Wright
Fill in the blank.
Andy Holloway
Fill in the blank. Hangman.
Jason Moore
No. What is it?
Mike Wright
No, Hangman.
Jason Moore
It's a book where you got to fill in the word. Choose your. Okay, Mad Libs. CD Lamp. Choose your own adventure. CD Lamb Blank in concussion protocol. It's a descriptive phrase.
Andy Holloway
Is in.
Mike Wright
No, no, it's more than that.
Andy Holloway
CD Lamb cleared. No.
Jason Moore
Progressing nicely.
Andy Holloway
Nice. Yes, please.
Mike Wright
Whoo.
Andy Holloway
Okay. He is progressing nicely. That is fantastic.
Jason Moore
There is not 1% of Jason that thinks he's losing this week.
Andy Holloway
Oh, there is like 82% of Jason that thinks he's losing this week.
Jason Moore
Then there's 100% that has hope.
Andy Holloway
182%.
Jason Moore
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Man, it's fun to break news to you on the show that could go either way.
Andy Holloway
I had no idea.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah. That could have been. I mean, you might have him back.
Andy Holloway
I need him.
Jason Moore
And isn't it.
Andy Holloway
I lost Rome.
Jason Moore
It's Minnesota. Right?
Andy Holloway
Pittman. And if I lose CD I just three.
Jason Moore
All right, Playoff waiver wire show tomorrow. Make sure you join us on that one, because we'll be back the community jointhefoot.com we'd love to have you join become an official Foot Clan member. Ride with us all off season long. We'll talk to you tomorrow.
Mike Wright
Goodbye.
Andy Holloway
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Episode: Week 14 Studs & Duds + Andy's Bad Luck
Date: December 8, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
This episode covers the pivotal Week 14 of the fantasy football season, where playoff fate is decided and league drama is at its peak. The hosts break down the week’s biggest studs and duds, discuss critical player injuries, review shifting league landscapes, and share their own personal fantasy struggles. The conversation is energetic, sometimes irreverent, packed with punchy analysis and locker room humor as the trio helps listeners navigate the chaos of playoff season.
If you missed the episode, this recap brings you all the essential stories, standout moments, and actionable insights for navigating a wild Week 14 and entering the fantasy football playoffs with confidence (and a good dose of laughter).