
Week 14 Studs & Duds + Fantasy Burns, Playoff Time - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/9
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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
The Fantasy Footballer Studio is brought to you by Amazon Prime. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Mike Wright
Oh, welcome in Monday, December 9, the fantasy footballers Podcast. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway, excited to have you with us. A reaction to the weekend. The studs, the duds, the news, the puns and then I'm out. I'm actually taking off.
Jason Moore
Oh, all right.
Mike Wright
I picked up the bye week in League of Records, so I'm actually going to take this week off guys, if you don't mind. We don't got nothing to worry about.
Jason Moore
Do you mind, Mike?
Andy Holloway
No, that's fine.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I'm cool with it.
Mike Wright
We should make a start sit tool for bye week teams and it just, no matter what players you put in, just says it doesn't matter. Al, are you in? You like this frame of thought?
Jason Moore
I hate that you have the buy. Hey, you can still get. You can still get the other by Al if I just got a root.
Mike Wright
For injury, which I try not to do.
Jason Moore
Yeah, but if Chase Brown wants to catch a cold before the game.
Mike Wright
Okay, okay, that's Not. That's a short term. Short term thing. The cold. Take some cold medicine. Take the week off. That's what you need for the buy.
Jason Moore
Yes, sir.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Andy Holloway
I don't think he's going to do that.
Jason Moore
Hey, I made the playoffs too, baby. Congratulations to those of us who backed in, baby. 02 on the week. Don't matter. The Briggs truck is coming to the playoffs.
Mike Wright
You got your socks blown off by Josh Allen.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
You had no chance in heck and you're still in.
Jason Moore
And I'm in, baby.
Mike Wright
Oh, boy. And you've got such a powerhouse team. You're just all, you ready to run the table.
Jason Moore
I know people don't want to play me, okay. Because I will destroy your team with voodoo and black magic.
Mike Wright
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The way the Chiefs do.
Jason Moore
Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. They have done this to themselves. There's no one left that likes the Chiefs like I am. I like dynasties. I root for the big. You know, when it was the Patriots. Sorry. I liked it. I enjoyed it. I was like, I want to see them win another championship. And like, be like, I was part of that, you know, era of football.
Mike Wright
When you got to see it, dude.
Andy Holloway
Part of it.
Jason Moore
Yes, I was. Well, I just mean, like, that was, you know, the.
Mike Wright
I was the guy that joined Pacheco.
Jason Moore
But the Chiefs, the football that they're.
Mike Wright
Playing, it's so annoying.
Jason Moore
They can't keep doing this, man.
Mike Wright
This was not a destruction. What did I call it? A demolishing. That was not a demolishing.
Jason Moore
Demolishing of our souls and eyeballs.
Mike Wright
It's like, it's funny because you can go to Twitter and everyone points out every holding call that isn't called by the Chiefs and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when you, when you hit a field goal off the upright, oh, man, it's not. You can't script it. Like, you can't pre plan, like it just happens to go off the upright and through. Of course it goes through.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you said so we weren't together when we were watching this, and I think you were ahead of us at the time. And I was with. I was with Owl. We knew that they were about to kick a field goal to win the game. A little chip shot. And you said, oh, my gosh. In slack. And I was like, did it go against them finally? Like, they're going to miss the field. This is crazy. And then they doinked it in. Unbelievable.
Mike Wright
You know what bothers me, too? The level of celebration after all of these crappy wins.
Andy Holloway
They're always so they won.
Mike Wright
I know they won, Mike, but they.
Andy Holloway
Just like, bro, you've been in sports, you've been in competition at the. When the clock is at zero and you have won it, that's when you're like, a win is a win and I will celebrate it.
Jason Moore
I don't blame him. I don't blame them on that at all. But my point and the point of all people outside of Kansas City or who aren't Chiefs fans, congratulations to Chiefs fans. This is amazing for you guys. Happy for you. Just the rest of the world you need to know the rest of the world would rather watch the Panthers. Right now the Panthers are playing better looking football than the Chiefs. And you just keep winning.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Mike and I are living the Bryce Young experience. Every week. It's a great time.
Andy Holloway
The Kansas City Chiefs have pulled like this is the ultimate heel turn. Yes. Because everyone loved the Kansas City Chiefs. When Patrick Mahomes is thrown for 5,050 bajillion touchdowns.
Jason Moore
No lookers behind the back.
Andy Holloway
Love it. They can win every single game. Give me that level of entertainment. And now we're back to the doldrums. Like this. This is like they Hulk Hogan joined nwo.
Mike Wright
Yes, it is.
Andy Holloway
And now we all just. We all hate the Chiefs.
Jason Moore
But the problem.
Andy Holloway
Your team is great. The problem I hate them.
Jason Moore
Our hatred is fueling.
Andy Holloway
I know.
Jason Moore
It's the chip on their shoulders that they need to keep winning these games.
Andy Holloway
It's the same thing as the Patriots. Like when the Patriots would just barely or the spurs barely beat teams. Yeah. Sound fundamentals.
Jason Moore
You get out of here with that bullcrap. It's far more give me 44.
Mike Wright
42 games like the Buffalo Rams game Dirty dirty wins you 12 and 1. Sons of guns. All right, I guess we'll react with your puns right now. What a weekend it was. I've got all your Monday punday submissions from the Instagram from X. And away we go. And I gotta start.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you'll enjoy this one.
Mike Wright
Jalen McMillions, baby.
Jason Moore
Shazam. Darnold. Wait.
Andy Holloway
He made it. Janu Swish.
Mike Wright
Yeah, baby. Overtime. Oh my gosh. Alan.
Jason Moore
Oh my gosh. Alan. Oh, the garden of Thielen.
Andy Holloway
Ooh, nice. Isaac Scorendo the charbone zone.
Jason Moore
And Devon Ye Chan.
Andy Holloway
Oh, do you want winnings?
Mike Wright
And I like this bazooka Nakua.
Jason Moore
Aw, yeah, that's good. They weren't all good. You got yucky Irving.
Mike Wright
Why are we doing that to him?
Jason Moore
He got injured.
Andy Holloway
Travis Smelsey and Anus Winston.
Jason Moore
Nick west broke Akini. It finally happened.
Mike Wright
Yeah, of course.
Andy Holloway
Oh, A.J.
Mike Wright
Brown stains and Jaden peed.
Jason Moore
How about Peepoo Samuel?
Andy Holloway
Oh, won't Levis.
Jason Moore
That's good.
Mike Wright
Mike Mevins. And let's end it with Mr. Moore here.
Jason Moore
This is where he's taking us all. Breeze hell.
Mike Wright
The even breeze hell couldn't stop you from making the playoffs.
Jason Moore
Yeah, because I could have benched my whole team.
Andy Holloway
Jaden Reed being in this list surrounded by just people being annihilated like Anus Winston and he's just. Jaden peed and he's out here. He gave everyone zero points. That's ridiculous. The best pun I saw on Jade Reed was Jaden Reed sucks.
Jason Moore
That's a pretty clever. Because it's like they are using his name.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And it sounds just like Jaden Reed. Jaden Reed was in. So Mike's. Mike and I's champ. Champ. Champ team. Our Dino junior roster. We're playing for the bye week and we.
Mike Wright
Did you get it?
Jason Moore
Well, it's not over.
Andy Holloway
It's still good.
Jason Moore
We need 27 points from Joe Burrow.
Mike Wright
Oh, that's doable.
Jason Moore
It's doable. He's done it probably four or five times this year.
Andy Holloway
It would have been doneable if we had not played Jaden Reed.
Jason Moore
We had Jaden Reed in and Devonte Adams on Labinch.
Mike Wright
That's a bad call by you.
Jason Moore
Agreed. Agreed.
Mike Wright
All right. We're ready to roll.
Jason Moore
Welcome to Ready to Roll, presented by Nissan.
Mike Wright
Well, one of the things we said on this show for the entirety of the 10 years we've been doing this is that you got to stay water in fantasy football. You. We've learned that conclusions can kill. Right. If you make a determination too soon, if you're unwilling to change an opinion, if you are, if you're suffering from fantasy burns from a certain player. And that carries on to, you know, you making a poor decision based on the fact that you were hurt in the past. All of these things can hurt you in fantasy. Jason, you've talked about wide receivers and how outside of the tippy, tippy top of the wide receiver position, you can go look at our consistency charts. They're all fairly inconsistent.
Jason Moore
So, yeah, like, a good grade for these wide receivers is to have a good game every other game, like over a certain barometer. That's actually good. It doesn't feel good in the moment, but it actually is pretty consistent for a wide receiver.
Mike Wright
So I wanted to look at a couple of things here in our Ready to roll segment. First, I wanted to take a Look at the first impressions we got just as a little bit of a reflection and a lesson learned because the first three weeks of the fantasy football season are so impactful on our psyches that because you have all the buildup, we all drafted, we built our rankings, we spent two, three, four, five months talking about players, we have expectations. And then the first three weeks, well.
Jason Moore
After the first three weeks, Andy, you know now, now you know what's going to happen. It's all been locked obvious Stone.
Mike Wright
Except it's not in fact this status Wild. Half of the top 10 fantasy wide receivers on the year right now, right now, half of them were outside the top 30 after three weeks. Outside the top 30 after three weeks. Here are some of the names as we look back at the beginning. Terry McClaurin, wide receiver 39 through three weeks. Jordan Addison, the wide receiver 104. JSN, Garrett Wilson and Brian Thomas, all outside the top 30. Jerry Judy, outside the top 40. Cortland Sutton, outside the top 50. Lad McConkey, outside the top 50. And since then, McLaren is the wide receiver four on the year. Do you guys realize that?
Jason Moore
Oh, I realize that. I've got him in one league and it is, I just can't believe it keeps happening every week.
Mike Wright
And Addison, wide receiver 16JSN is now the wide receiver five on the year. Garrett Wilson, the wide receiver seven. Brian Thomas, in the top 10. Judy in the top 10.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean he's been, he is, he is a dominant league winning type of fantasy wide receiver with Jameis.
Mike Wright
So if you just put yourself in the boat of like if you reacted to those first three weeks, it probably costs you starting those guys another three weeks before you add any confidence. Things change very quickly. You look at common denominators in that situation. Terry McLaren with Jaden Daniels, it transformed his fantasy outlook. Courtland Sutton with Bo Nicks, quarterback situation transformed everything. Jerry Judy, now that he got James Winston, it's transformed his whole season. So what are the implications of that one? It's a lesson learned for the future, right? Don't let those first three weeks become, and I'm preaching to myself here, it's almost impossible. But a three week stretch in the middle of the season doesn't feel the same as the first three weeks.
Jason Moore
No, it doesn't. And it doesn't in the sense that like we already have established what we think of these players. So it's like, okay, they're having a down week, but they've been good already this season when it's at the beginning it's 100% of the year. So it's 100% of everything you've seen. So it's much more difficult. But I think it is worth bringing up it if you're in a slump right now. If a player has had two bad weeks in a row, yeah, that doesn't mean, oh, it's bad from here on out. Like you can't view it that way. I mean everyone was dropping Mark Andrews after the back to back gooses and since that time I'm pretty sure he's like a top three tight end.
Mike Wright
So I did want to point out four names based on the idea that conclusions can kill. We just talked about one in Monday punday and I'm not going to pretend to know the future for this player, but I will tell you that the Burns of this past week, they were number one.
Andy Holloway
They are medical.
Mike Wright
Jaden Reed is a very talented player that has had stretches of games where he's been a fantasy darling this year. He just goosed you on Thursday. His fantasy playoffs are the fourth easiest schedule for wide receivers. Another player that has made no impact on you for the course of the year that might make a big difference in the playoffs, Adam Thielen. Who we just said the Garden of Thielen. Jason looked up waiting for the I was waiting.
Jason Moore
I was waiting. But to be fair, it's like 9am our time. So I assume Adam Thielen was at his nap. Yes. Gets up around four or five, takes a nine.
Andy Holloway
He's already at lunch.
Mike Wright
I mean Adam Thielen continues to get it done and looks great.
Jason Moore
And and Bryce Young looks.
Mike Wright
Thank you.
Jason Moore
Healed a little.
Mike Wright
There will be start set decisions this week in particular where you're going to be facing the is it the player that's done well lately? Adam Thielen emerging with a a great matchup in 2/3 of the fantasy playoffs.
Andy Holloway
Dallas, Arizona and Tampa Bay.
Mike Wright
Or putting your confidence in somebody whose situation is a little bit murkier. You know, one name worth bringing up where it's like, hey, be careful. George Pickens, he just missed week 14 with an injury precautionary. His first week in the fantasy playoffs is going to be against Philadelphia. In Philadelphia.
Andy Holloway
It's no problem for Adam Thielen.
Mike Wright
No, it wasn't. And then CD Lamb, he's averaging 9.2 fantasy points per game with Cooper Rush. You talk about one of those situations. Bo Nicks, jaden Daniels helped McCluren and Sutton Cooper rush with now CD Lamb. The big name, the big pedigree, the big history under 10 points a game with Cooper Rush dealing with an injury. So if you go onto your fantasy playoffs with a conclusion about CD Lamb and what he should be, and he gets to face two out of three really tough matchups, your championship week, CD Lamb with Cooper Rush in Philadelphia, against Philadelphia.
Andy Holloway
How do you feel about that at this very moment? Not good.
Mike Wright
It might take some intestinal fortitude to win your fantasy championship is what is the message here? I wanted to lay out some of what's happened, but mostly just tell you it's the very difficult calls that can win and turn the table in a fantasy championship. Now, Jason, you've got a look on your face. You just thinking about it?
Jason Moore
I'm just thinking about it. I'm thinking about how I'm going to try to scrap and claw my way through these playoffs with a garbage roster. It can be done.
Mike Wright
Well, I mean, look, I mean, there have to be people out there that played CD Lamb this week instead of Jordan Addison in that matchup.
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah.
Mike Wright
And so there's going to be a lot of those type of decisions coming down the stretch. And I wanted to highlight some of the fact that, you know, there's these stretches of games that really change the way you think about a player. But stay water. Be willing to let the burns go. All right, that was ready to roll. Thanks again to our sponsor. Nissan Adventure calls in the first ever Nissan Rogue Rock Creek. Visit NissanUSA.com to learn more. Intelligent all wheel drive cannot prevent collisions or provide enhanced traction in all conditions. Always monitor traffic and weather conditions.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
Well, Derek Carr suffered a fracture in his left hand.
Andy Holloway
That is into the shop.
Mike Wright
That is the fear. Okay, the car into the shop. Yeah, yeah. No, I. I'm with you.
Jason Moore
Yep.
Mike Wright
He also might be in concussion protocol. It was a hand and concussion combination.
Jason Moore
He hit his helmet super hard with his left hand. If you didn't see the play, it's wild.
Andy Holloway
The coach said he might be.
Jason Moore
How do they not how. That seems like something you should know.
Andy Holloway
I feel like this happened like with Harbaugh a couple years ago and we're like, what do you mean? Are they or are they not? That's a strange thing.
Mike Wright
So Derek Carr, I mean, first reactions to that injury and what it means for, you know, Kamara and other options in the offense.
Jason Moore
It will be very bad for the Saints. I mean, we saw this already week 6, 7, 8 when they did not have a car there. It was not great for the Saints. Now, six, seven and Eight. You look at. They weren't like Camara is so involved, but they were three of his worst games. Not like he was just outright bust. You know, he scored 14 points, 5 points, 15 points. He was okay. But if you look at all of his massive games, they've been with Derek Carr. So you hope CAR can clear concussion protocol if he's in it. And I don't know, man, if you've got a fractured left hand, obviously it's not your throwing hand, but you still have to catch snaps.
Mike Wright
And so we'll monitor that. We did get news this morning. Isaac Grendel left Sunday's game against the Bears with a foot injury. Kyle Shanahan said X rays were inconclusive. We'll have more imaging on Monday. Concern is a foot sprain. Garando himself said the exit was precautionary and quote, I feel great.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, well, we'll see.
Jason Moore
Feels great about his performance.
Mike Wright
I mean, if he's out, then we've gone cmc, Mitchell, Mason, Garendo, Keyshawn.
Jason Moore
Boom, baby.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Patrick Taylor, Both of those guys.
Jason Moore
No, but it'll be, it'll be Grindo Wild.
Mike Wright
Bucky Irving left early. This one hurt. Literally. Bucky Irving barely played.
Andy Holloway
His final touch was the beginning of the second quarter.
Mike Wright
Yeah, precautionary is what they're saying because he got banged up last week. They were winning. I, you know, that's a scary one because he's been playing so well. Jonathan Brooks.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Mike Wright
Left with a non contact right knee injury. This is the same knee that Brooks had surgery on for a torn acl.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, we'll wait to see what happens, but when it's non contact and then he was down and he tried to get up, tried to leave the field, had to get back down. Man, for a player that took this long to come back, you hoped that this was like the process of allowing the body to just heal completely, fully. We don't have any other information, but it makes me question if there was some setbacks along the way of the recovery. And that's why it took so long. The fact that he's back out on the field and now the same knee says whoopsie doozles. This could be. This could be like major, major issue.
Mike Wright
Will Disley Left injured shoulder injury. Sad. Montana.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Justin Herbert was playing through injury. Ed. No. Connell. Looks like a season ending injury for Raiders quarterback Aiden O'Connell as the team circles the drain and is nearing the number one pick.
Andy Holloway
I believe they're at number and that will be brutal. For Jacoby and Brock.
Mike Wright
Yes. That is. That is another one of the. I wanted to bring up Brock Bowers in that radio segment. That was the first name that came to mind of. Okay, maybe now that the quarterback change happens. That's really. But it's not going to impact fantasy because I can't. No one's going to bench Brock Bowers.
Andy Holloway
No, no.
Mike Wright
But your expectations for Brock Bowers need to be extremely measured.
Jason Moore
Oh, for sure. You're going to have. I mean when you go to the third string quarterback on a bad team, I mean it doesn't matter how good you are. Look at, you know, Malik Neighbors is great, but you can't always get it done. And I don't know that Brock Bowers is going to be able to, you.
Mike Wright
Know, I mean Desmond Ritter, Kyle Pitts and Drake London and the players he had in the past, I mean, too bad they don't have Johnny Smith, you know.
Jason Moore
Yeah. A lot of people in the playoffs have Brock Bowers and he's helped get you there and he might help you exit.
Mike Wright
Correction to what I said. The Las Vegas Raiders are now their number one in the draft order. The Giants are number two. Strength to schedule.
Andy Holloway
Congratulations.
Jason Moore
Oh, man. Brock and Dynasty get him the number one pick at quarterback.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah. DeMarcus Robinson left with an injury for the Rams. Dallas Goddard was placed on IR and I think that's all the news I got.
Andy Holloway
That's all we got for now. I'm sure we could find more if you want.
Jason Moore
No, I'm trying to see breaking news button.
Mike Wright
I'm checking to see if Jalen McMillan scored another touchdown.
Andy Holloway
No, just. Just the two.
Mike Wright
All right. That was today's news and odes presented by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com we will take a break and come back with the studs.
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Mike Wright
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Andy Holloway
It was a good time starts to.
Mike Wright
A Sunday ever because he did it so quick. There was no sweat.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it was. It was a great start to the Sunday morning games. We had Kendrick Miller in the end zone.
Mike Wright
Oh yeah, he got into the end zone.
Jason Moore
And Jalen McMillan in like the first five minutes of action. It was a chef's kiss.
Mike Wright
I mean, those are the moments we live for, right? 3rd, 4th, 5th string Tampa Bay touchdown guarantee.
Jason Moore
I just, I can't wait for that next Troy Franklin touchdown this year.
Mike Wright
See what I mean? That's the good stuff.
Jason Moore
That's where it matters. This week's fantasy stud Muffins.
Mike Wright
All those names we mentioned reminded me of Studley performances. So let's jump in here. You know, normally on a week like this, we're talking Sam Darnold because what a performance from Sam Darnold. Five touchdowns.
Jason Moore
Genuinely, what a. Like it wasn't luck. It wasn't a screen pass that he looked outstanding every single throw. You know, we weren't together. I was, I was with Al watching the games and I was just like the whole, I'm like, look, he's on Sam Darnold hitting everybody in stride down the field, short everywhere. He was so big.
Andy Holloway
He had a couple mind melds with Addison where it was like that, that was a short ball that Addison read properly.
Mike Wright
And to be fair, Atlanta's DB slipped on a few banana peels. But 22 for 28, 347 and 5. That would normally have been your storyline move great in the pocket. It's also a storyline that they they've negotiated nothing with Sam Darnold about the future and is likely at this point, he's priced out of there.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he's playing for a good contract.
Mike Wright
He's going to play for somebody else and be their starter next year. That's what's going to happen with Sam Darnold. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I wouldn't negotiate if I were Sam.
Mike Wright
You wouldn't negotiate?
Andy Holloway
No, I would be like, no, we're going to finish out the season. Don't worry about it. I'd gamble.
Mike Wright
However, there was this guy, excellent. Josh Allen. Three rushing touchdowns, three passing touchdowns. The first player in history with a three plus three in a loss. 42, 44 in a. It was an amazing game.
Jason Moore
No interceptions.
Mike Wright
I find the coaching of McDermott to be atrocious. At the end of that game, it was the worst call I've seen since Eberfluz. I don't know if you saw the end of that game, Jason, but their decision to, with a minute on the clock, attempt a quarterback sneak with three timeouts that they already had, they failed it. They. It forced them to use one of their timeouts and by using one timeout that eliminated their ability to call three timeouts and kick the ball deep. It was insane to me. Just absolutely insane. But Josh Allen, fantasy darling, absolutely incredible. And you didn't win if you played against him.
Andy Holloway
Correct. After last week, Jason and I had started the show, you know, talking about the snow game of, hey, snow people, which one do you prefer?
Mike Wright
Oh, well, which one do you prefer?
Andy Holloway
Snow people.
Mike Wright
Snow people. I like.
Andy Holloway
150 total yards. Yeah, he scored. He scored a bunch of touchdowns. He threw himself a touchdown last week.
Jason Moore
I get it.
Andy Holloway
It's weird. Which one do you prefer?
Mike Wright
I get it. And I prefer this, but I prefer this the way that every meal that I eat isn't a four course meal. Right. If every meal was a four course meal. They're not. None of them are four course meals. Right. These are special games because they're amazing. The snow game, that's its own special thing. None of them should be all the time, and I want more of these. I'm just saying that the variability is what makes it fun. Otherwise, it's arena football, which is pretty.
Andy Holloway
Good game, pretty fun game. You ever been to an arena from arena ball? It's great.
Mike Wright
I don't think the ratings say what the NFL's ratings say is all I'm saying. So you gotta. You gotta mix it up, Mike. I'm just. This was awesome. 44, 42. It was a great game. It was a great fantasy Game, Puka, Nakua, Cooper Cup, Stafford got it done. Allen got it done. There were lots of beneficiaries. But Josh Allen's going to win the mvp. That's what's going to happen. And look, they're going to go play Detroit next week in Detroit. That's a fun game.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And that, I mean, if they win that game, if the Bills win that game, he. I mean, Josh Allen will be minus 10,000 to get MVP. I mean, that will give them a record competing with, you know, the number one in the league. And Josh Allen's been the best player. Him, Lamar. They've basically been the best.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And when you watch Kyler Murray play quarterback and then you watch Josh Allen play quarterback, as a Cardinal fan, you realize that you are.
Andy Holloway
You don't need to say that.
Mike Wright
That you were stuck at an 8 and 9 peak for the rest of Kyler Murray's career is how fast Jalen Hurts.
Jason Moore
Okay, another rushing touchdown.
Mike Wright
This guy. This game was weird. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
100 yards.
Mike Wright
He passed for 100 yards. He did not play well. I watched the All 22. His wide receivers were open all over the place down the field. AJ Brown is furious right now. Like, if you saw his post game conference, it was. He is so unhappy.
Andy Holloway
Is he cryptic, tweeting?
Mike Wright
No, he's just. His face is not cryptic and it says I hate my life. I mean, he is cardio out there with 15 yards of separation and Jalen Hurts won't throw the ball down the field. I mean, look at the evidence here. Carolina could have won this game easily. This is a mirage. If you think it was a good game for Philadelphia, this was not a good game for Philadelphia. This was a bad game for Philadelphia that they figured out how to win because Carolina is a bad team.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, but the. Carolina's been figuring some things out as of late. And then just because the Eagles had a bad game, I still think they're a very good team.
Mike Wright
Oh, they are a good team. But he's thrown. Here's his passing yards.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Over the last three weeks. 179, 118, 108. If you go into your fantasy playoffs.
Jason Moore
You'Re fine with that as long as.
Mike Wright
If you have Hertz, you're fine with that. Is that what you're saying?
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, not if you have Brown.
Mike Wright
Not if you have Smith. That's my point.
Jason Moore
I'm just talking about Hertz. Yes, the receiving weapons are. Obviously you need more passing yardage. Saquon is a big part of the problem. His rushing ability and his Rushing yardage has taken over the Eagles with their defense and their running game. You don't need to throw the ball a lot, and so that can be frustrating for the weapons. Yeah, if you're devonte Smith, manager, you're really scared. You're not expecting massive games. Obviously, you got the touchdown this week, but the rushing touchdowns are still there for Hertz. So Hertz, you're fine with the last four years, 10 touchdowns, just rushing, 13 touchdowns, 15 touchdowns and 13 this year with weeks to go.
Mike Wright
I mean, Pittsburgh, though, next week to start your playoffs for Jalen Hertz, he did finish at five this week. The previous three weeks, outside the top 12, three consecutive weeks. I do think things are going a little bit like you said, Saquon's a piece of it. Confidence in the passing game is not there. So if you're AJ Brown and devontae Smith, you're a little nervous if you're managing those players. Tua deserves a ton of credit for what he is doing right now in fantasy and on the field for his team in fantasy. Tua is the quarterback two, five and three over the last three weeks.
Jason Moore
He's the quarterback one over the last month.
Mike Wright
So, you know, and he's getting it done each and every week. You saw Waddle and Hill get involved. You saw Johnny Smith in overtime. You throw the ball to HN all the time. He's averaging, you know, the last month. Is that what you said, Jay? He's the quarterback one. He's averaging. As opposed to the, what, 108 passing yards of Mr. Jalen Hurts, 325 a game for Tuatanga Vailoa. They play Houston, then San Francisco, then Cleveland. I'm not scared of any of those matchups.
Jason Moore
No, those are three good defenses, but absolutely not scary. You're. You're. I don't. I wouldn't bench him. And the nice thing is those are three offenses that should be able to make it into really valuable games.
Mike Wright
Yes. I think Tua could be a league winner.
Andy Holloway
Could be.
Jason Moore
I just want to see. The thing is, with the Dolphins in general, they. They do a good job beating up on bad teams. And so I'm really curious coming up here, you know, Houston, they're not a juggernaut, but they're, they're, they're a good team. San Francisco, if they're still playing for the playoffs, you know, they, they obviously played great this last week. I want to see this because obviously against the jets, you know, you can. You kind of saw this coming.
Andy Holloway
I mean, 365 and two on the road.
Jason Moore
The Packers. Yeah. Yeah. That was.
Andy Holloway
That's a. That's a good one.
Jason Moore
That was. That was great. That's the one. That's one game. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I mean, good.
Mike Wright
He's set up, by the way, to break Dr. Breeze all time record for completion percentage. He's at 74% on the year.
Jason Moore
Well, when also notice 80% of your pass to HN and Johnny Smith. That'll, that'll help.
Mike Wright
But yeah, I mean, is his yard, is his yards per attempt down?
Jason Moore
Because I don't think it is from like previous years.
Mike Wright
It's down seven point. He was in the four instead of eight running backs this week. The top five, Zach Charbonnet.
Jason Moore
Oh, my gosh.
Mike Wright
Isaac Garindo, Rashad White. Josh Jacobs. Kyron Williams.
Jason Moore
Charbonnet.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Where has this been since college? I'm just curious because like Mike and I loved you coming out of college and you've been slow and plotting.
Andy Holloway
He's only caused me pain.
Jason Moore
But who ha.
Mike Wright
No. Ken Walker, who could be back next week, might not. Charbonnet goes 22 for 134. Big touchdown run, caught seven passes, got 48% of the team's rushing attempts and targets. And you know, the way this offensive line works, you know, Charbonne was very decisive. I will say that. He got the ball and he ran forward. You know, it wasn't a lot of dancing. Very versatile, very powerful. Did some things that like probably are not in the area where Ken Walker's strengths are.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's fine.
Mike Wright
Tackle breaking. It was impressive. They crushed Arizona. I can't tell you how much I hate the Cardinals. I hate them so much. Isaac Garando, 15 for 78 and 2. Jason started the week two for 50 through the air. Hopefully that helped a lot of you to have the pat on the butt. The endorsement of Garando coming right into that situation and starting for your fantasy.
Andy Holloway
Team, hopefully his foot's okay.
Mike Wright
If it's not, it will be par for the course for the 49ers and for your fantasy teams because a running back that you can count on in San Francisco is a. An illusion, a ghost and a mist. It's just you get them for a time and then they're gone.
Jason Moore
Yeah, but when they're there, if they're there, you plug them in your starting lineup.
Mike Wright
Josh Jacobs, three more touchdowns against Detroit.
Jason Moore
Okay, so the last six games, Josh Jacobs. Josh played, he's on pace for 28 rushing touchdowns. That's. I mean, he is. When they get around the goal line, which is so funny because we brought.
Mike Wright
Him up as a regression, a positive regression candidate because he didn't score on the ground for the first four weeks.
Jason Moore
But I do feel like he is. He's kind of murdering the passing game. Like, I would like it to stop, personally. I mean, it's a great game. He looks outstanding.
Mike Wright
It's like Saquon in the Philly. Philly situation.
Jason Moore
It's just like, you know, Jaden Reed is like, can I. Can I play two? And Josh Jacobs like, nah, I got this.
Mike Wright
Rashad White did it again. 17 for 90 and 1 on the ground. Passing touchdown.
Jason Moore
I mean, Rashad White was. We saw this last year. If he's the dude. If he's, you know, he was out there all of the snaps last year. Just a complete workhorse back and great for fantasy. I mean, you could have this again this next week against the Chargers.
Mike Wright
Sean Tucker did not get a lot of work. He was 3 for 47 in his three touches. Kyren, two more rushing touchdowns. James Conner against Seattle, 18 for 90. Also scored 4 for 32 and 1. Plays New England at home next week for your fantasy playoffs, then Carolina, then the Rams. All right, so James Conner, three more games. That's all we need from you, James. You can get hurt for the last week because we won't play fantasy then.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I like that. Let's take week 18 off with, like a pinky injury.
Mike Wright
Bijon Robinson continues to get it done. Chuba Hubbard was last man standing and is a good running back. So 26 for 92 and one against a brutal rushing defense.
Jason Moore
Yeah. The upcoming weeks, Dallas, Arizona and Tampa Bay for Chuba, who's completely alone now. I mean, Miles Sanders is gone, Brooks is gone, and I forget the black shoe. Yeah, he's gone. So the Pirate. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Have you any wool?
Andy Holloway
Oh, you.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I went a different way. Yeah, I like no bags full.
Jason Moore
You got a pick? I got a pick. I'm going to go with the wool because I didn't see it coming. It was a little bit more difficult. Sorry, Mike, but it was just like.
Mike Wright
Blacksheet of the Pirates. Cool, too.
Jason Moore
Yeah. No, they were both good. They were both good.
Andy Holloway
That's fine. We'll go with the sheep.
Jason Moore
Yeah. All right. Have you any wool?
Mike Wright
Anyway.
Jason Moore
Anyways, he's injured, too, so Chuba's completely alone, at least this week against Dallas this coming week. I mean, that is. I hope you have him in playoffs.
Mike Wright
Top five whiteouts this week. Pukinakua, 35.8 points. Jordan Addison, 35.3. Justin Jefferson Juwan Jennings and Tyreek Hill. Welcome back to the party.
Andy Holloway
I remember you, right?
Mike Wright
10 for 115 and one for Tyreek. First hundred yard game since week one.
Jason Moore
Holy moly.
Mike Wright
You look like you were about to hold the football.
Jason Moore
No, I was just the way that.
Mike Wright
You'Re posing is like a two handed. Don't fumble.
Andy Holloway
Just practicing.
Jason Moore
No, I had an itch.
Mike Wright
I just look like a. Look a little bit of a. You're not fumbling. Devonte Adams, nine for 109 and a touchdown. Jalen McMillan.
Andy Holloway
You know who should have had touchdown? Garrett Wilson.
Mike Wright
Oh my gosh. Mike can't handle it.
Jason Moore
Dude.
Andy Holloway
Rogers, bro, are you.
Mike Wright
Just a 76 yard touchdown. That was an easy one. But he ran him out of bounds.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, I don't know where the ball came down. When I watched it live, I kind of had a little blame on Gary Wilson.
Mike Wright
There's a little blame on Wilson there for sure. I brought it up to Mike. He hadn't.
Andy Holloway
No.
Mike Wright
He would not accept it.
Andy Holloway
No. Because if you watch the play in totality, the margin for touchdown was probably 10 yards wide.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And he missed it.
Jason Moore
I will definitely say that any throw, if you put that ball just a little bit more inbounds, it is a guaranteed touchdown. But I still felt like watching it. I mean, he didn't make that big an effort to stay in bounds. He's like, I caught the ball, I'm going to get out. It's like there's a big field ahead of you too. He didn't even try. That was my issue. He did not try.
Andy Holloway
He was falling out. The ball took him out of bounds.
Mike Wright
Anyways, Adams had a good game. 9 for 109 and 1. Garrett, Darren, Jalen McMillan 4 for 59 and 2. The question here is not, you know, am I some sort of genius, but really, do you care about this?
Jason Moore
No, I don't care much. It's nice to see the rookie involved and he's still a matchup play, you know, like for instance, this next week they're going to go on the road and play against the Chargers. We've talked about how the Chargers games have hit the under a lot. And even though they've opened things up with Herbert a little bit more, they've got a really good defense. I don't expect that one to be a barn burner. I'm not going to be looking to start Jalen McMillan just on the back of two touchdowns, caught four balls.
Mike Wright
Yeah, yeah.
Andy Holloway
I mean, it's the same as Rome.
Mike Wright
Roma Dunes, Ape, which Is the same as Tim Patrick.
Andy Holloway
Yep. 4 Patrick. I would put it the bottom of it. The bottom of the list of.
Mike Wright
I'm more talking about like two touchdown outlier performances, but it's like if you.
Andy Holloway
Had to order those three of which ones do I care about? I'd put Odunze at the top. But it was still just four catches for Rome.
Mike Wright
Darnell Mooney.
Jason Moore
Oh, there you go. Your start of the week.
Mike Wright
Six for 142.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Nice to see Jerry Judy getting it done as well. Has an amazing schedule down the stretch. Last year it was Amari Cooper. This year is going to be Jerry Judy with a backup quarterback in Cleveland winning people championships as long as James Winston is behind center. Now, it was not good for James.
Jason Moore
No.
Mike Wright
He will be brought up momentarily. I was just 21 fantasy points.
Andy Holloway
I thought he had two.
Jason Moore
No, he was. He was okay for fantasy. He didn't have like a bust game, but he didn't have. Obviously when you throw two picks and you get those minus points, it's difficult. And he's used to. And we are used to those picks. Scoring touchdowns by the opposing defense. That didn't happen. And that was really sad for me. When I. When I want James throwing picks, I want those picks to be housed.
Mike Wright
He was 212 and two, but had three turnovers.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
So that was not. It was not up to expectation is all. I mean, tight ends.
Jason Moore
Oh, and Juwan Jennings, you missed him. Had another good game.
Mike Wright
Oh, he looks so good.
Jason Moore
Seven for 90 and two touchdowns. Debo.
Mike Wright
Pause, pause. We're about to talk about poop.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's where he belongs. And I watched.
Jason Moore
Oh, I was talking about the whole game. It's like you saw. I mean, we're talking about. Now. Debo kept getting the Debo plays.
Mike Wright
Yeah, they poured some mitten issues, though.
Jason Moore
They kept getting the. Here's how Debo plays used to work. You get him the ball behind the line of scrimmage, you get blockers out in front. There's one guy who leaks in. Debo basically make clowns. That guy throws him off, can't tackle him, and then he goes down. Breaks about 12 more tackles along the way. Now, here's how it works. They get Debo the ball in the backfield, they get blockers down the field. One guy comes in, he tackles Debo very easily. That. I mean, that just didn't ever used to happen. Now it happens every single time.
Mike Wright
All right, we will. We'll talk more about it in a second. I want to talk about big performances Studs at the tight end position, which was Kittle Najoku, Juwan Johnson. Keep your eyes open there, man. Although maybe close them after cars injury. Mike went through the whole. He went through the whole cycle with me.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
He's like, oh yeah. Oh, oh no.
Jason Moore
And I'm out.
Mike Wright
Fry me.
Jason Moore
He got in one side of the car, scooted across like Grandpa Simpson.
Mike Wright
He was the Grandpa Simpson. Yeah. Pat Fryer me back in the end zone. You know, if he scores, you're always going to be happy. Welcome to the tight end world. And then Johnny Smith.
Andy Holloway
Johnny.
Jason Moore
Oh my God.
Andy Holloway
The most ridiculous fantasy game he has shut out.
Mike Wright
Full goose. Regulation Full goose.
Jason Moore
He goosed. He had zero points.
Andy Holloway
The game was over four quarters.
Jason Moore
Full goose. He should not be in the studs.
Andy Holloway
And then overtime was the Johnny Smith drive.
Mike Wright
And Trey McBride tried to do the same thing. He was goosing at the half, seven for 70. At the end of the game, they tried to get him a touchdown again.
Andy Holloway
They try.
Mike Wright
I would say 80%. He dropped it. 20% Kyler missed him. And we're never going to get one.
Jason Moore
I'm going to call a touchdown guarantee for Trey McBride rest of season.
Andy Holloway
I tried it last night.
Mike Wright
Wait, what do you mean?
Jason Moore
I mean he won.
Andy Holloway
You mean he'll get one?
Jason Moore
Yes, I do.
Mike Wright
Wow.
Jason Moore
Bold take. He will get one before the end of the year. I'm not going to even tell you what game.
Mike Wright
Cool, man.
Jason Moore
But I'm. I guarantee it.
Mike Wright
Wow.
Jason Moore
He was going to get one.
Mike Wright
See, I thought you were going to be somewhat more, you know, courageous and say this next game against New England.
Jason Moore
I would never.
Mike Wright
I will.
Jason Moore
You will?
Mike Wright
Yeah. Done.
Jason Moore
Okay. Okay, Mr. I want to go back there real quick.
Mike Wright
He is. He is on pace right now. If you remember, Deontay Johnson had 142 targets, no touchdowns for Pittsburgh two years ago. That was the record. And Trey McBride as well, on his way to.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he's. He might be able to do it.
Jason Moore
So if anyone could get that done.
Andy Holloway
It'S Kyler, him finishing in the top. I mean, I just want him to finish. Now at this point where we are.
Mike Wright
Trey McBride will score next week.
Andy Holloway
I want him to just to finish as a top three, maybe even higher with no touchdowns.
Jason Moore
You're rooting. You want no touchdowns?
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Let's just finish this.
Mike Wright
It's a small sample, but I'm going to say it because it's hilarious and fun. But Trey McBride is on pace for 232 targets over the last three games. Yeah, this is the segment that.
Jason Moore
That's how you kill a man just for the record, like that's. That's literally you. I don't care who you are. I know Trey McBride is big and tough, but you can't.
Mike Wright
Well, he needs to reduce his hurdle. Hurdle count.
Jason Moore
Oh, I agree. Yeah, I agree.
Andy Holloway
Mr. McBride.
Jason Moore
Stop it.
Mike Wright
There's a lot of. Stop it. This is more than McBride.
Jason Moore
Oh. Drake London had the stupidest hurdle in that game.
Mike Wright
You know who else did three times? Michael Mayer. Listen, listen.
Jason Moore
He's too heavy to do that.
Mike Wright
Listen. Stop it. Hurdles are supposed to be special and rare. That's what makes them cool. If you try to do it on every play, you're going to die. Didn't Derek Carr. Isn't that how he got hurt?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
The thing that is.
Andy Holloway
Girdle himself into a girdle.
Jason Moore
Yeah. The thing that is, like, people need to understand, if you're in the open field and it's a one on one tackle time, that's when you hurdle.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
When there's other defensive players nearby.
Mike Wright
You can't hurdle three dudes.
Jason Moore
You're just gonna. You're. You're slowing down your progress to get squacked. If you.
Mike Wright
Cool.
Jason Moore
If you complete the hurdle now, there's always the possibility you're not going to complete the hurdle. The probability. The probability. But my point is, like, you need to be a little bit more selective because it's a high injury risk play and I'm pro hurdle. I want a good hurdle. But do it when you can run afterwards, not when it's like, I'm going to hurdle this guy while that guy tackles.
Mike Wright
Now Kraft Tucker. Kraft did the right thing because he would have been annihilated by Joseph.
Andy Holloway
That's not really a hurdle. That was an avoiding attack.
Mike Wright
That's an escape. All right, we'll take a break. We'll hit the duck.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
No, I gotta know. We waited that whole ad break.
Mike Wright
That was a long ad break. And before you go.
Andy Holloway
Oh, Jason, did you poop? What did you find out?
Jason Moore
I went to bet the Trey McBride touchdown. Right. And it's next week, so you can't bet it. It's not there. Right. There is a players specials. I just clicked that button. I've never clicked that button.
Mike Wright
It's called the Trey McBrides made and.
Jason Moore
They only have one thing you could bet for the entire game. Trey McBrides made nine plus receptions but no touchdown.
Mike Wright
You can bet it.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean it's great odds, but I'm not betting that.
Mike Wright
All right.
Jason Moore
He's going to score a touchdown.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I guarantee it. Here we go. Duds time.
Jason Moore
Pooped in his big boy pants.
Mike Wright
Kirk Cousins. J.J. zacharies and summarized his performances over the last four weeks. 10 points, 4 points, 2 points, 9 points.
Andy Holloway
Who put Michael Penix on our wall?
Jason Moore
Oh, do we really have?
Andy Holloway
We do.
Jason Moore
Oh. Who is that? That's a pro move. Who did.
Mike Wright
Kyle must have requested it.
Jason Moore
Oh, that was. It was the Falcon. The Falcon took care of that. That's a good one.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Kirk Cousins. I don't want to like. I want to be fair.
Jason Moore
344 yards.
Mike Wright
Sucks. He's done. It's over. You're not winning with him. It's over. $100 million over.
Jason Moore
Wasted the last month of football. He is on pace for zero total passing touchdowns and 34 total interceptions.
Mike Wright
Now when he throws zero touchdowns, I'm just curious, Jason, how many touchdowns does Drake London catch in?
Jason Moore
He gets 100% target share of those touchdowns.
Mike Wright
Okay, and how many does Mooney score?
Jason Moore
100% target share. He gets all of the touchdowns.
Mike Wright
Bijan receiving touchdowns.
Jason Moore
Exactly. 100% of nothing.
Mike Wright
Be very afraid. I'm not. Look. 344. Cool. So you know, it's a lot of garbage time in that game too, man. That game got out of hand because Kirk Cousins cannot get it done. He can't move in the pocket. Every third throw comes out like my grandmother threw it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean her grandma, she had a rocket.
Mike Wright
But look, I've just watched Raiders this week.
Jason Moore
Raiders, huh?
Mike Wright
Can I interest is Max Crosby not playing? Because he will sack the crap out of Kirk Cousins.
Jason Moore
Man. They've lost all these games, right? I mean they have to have gone four losses in a row.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Tampa Bay is at the.
Jason Moore
Yes, they have.
Andy Holloway
They're leading the division now.
Mike Wright
I don't know man. It's just. It's gone. And when it's gone, it's gone. And Mike said it last week, Achilles injuries to quarterbacks that are old two and oh yeah, Achilles two quarterbacks. Nothing. Jordan love. This was bad. 12 for 2206 and one on Thursday.
Jason Moore
Not his fault. That's Josh Jacobs fault.
Mike Wright
It's. It's a lot of Jacobs but also the past completions of 12. That's rough.
Andy Holloway
But only throw. I don't know.
Jason Moore
And he only throw the 20 times.
Andy Holloway
That's a weird.
Jason Moore
They just too much Josh Jacobs. Let's reel that back. You know, throw the ball a little bit.
Mike Wright
Patrick Mahomes, 210 and one in his victory.
Andy Holloway
Patrick, the youth of America are turning.
Mike Wright
On you running backs duds.
Jason Moore
I haven't seen a lot of the shaved side curly tops.
Andy Holloway
No, not anymore.
Jason Moore
No, it's not cool.
Andy Holloway
We're out. Josh Allen in.
Mike Wright
So the thin little weird mustache, is that what people are going to be doing?
Jason Moore
I hope not.
Mike Wright
Growing the. Josh Allen. James Cook. Mike. This was one of the storylines at running back.
Andy Holloway
Yes, it was.
Mike Wright
Duds of the week. 6 for 20 in a game where his team scored 44 points, his fewest opportunities since week 15 of 2022. We wondered frequently whether they were. Whether he was hurt. But it was more so when Buffalo's in catch up mode for the very first time this year. As opposed to Buster thing. Yeah. Ty Johnson. Ty Johnson was the guy that was.
Andy Holloway
A joke for Falcon.
Mike Wright
James Cook though. Is this scare you or is this an anomaly?
Jason Moore
It's an anomaly.
Mike Wright
I'm not Worried Detroit in the fantasy playoffs next week.
Jason Moore
I mean, that's a bad matchup. I don't love that. But I mean, you go back one week and James Cook was awesome. Got two touchdowns. So I'm going to. I'm going to look at him this coming week in Detroit as, you know, probably an RB2, but probably started in most leagues.
Mike Wright
Jacobs did score three times against Detroit.
Jason Moore
As did Kenneth Walker. Right?
Andy Holloway
Huh?
Mike Wright
Earlier in the season.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I believe he had three touchdowns earlier in the season. Maybe. Maybe it was two.
Andy Holloway
But.
Jason Moore
And keep in mind, he did.
Andy Holloway
He had three rushing touchdowns.
Jason Moore
Keep in mind, we've been talking about the last couple of weeks. The injuries to Detroit's defense are monumental. So I'm not looking away from James.
Mike Wright
Cook because of this performance, which is what people need to hear after a bad week. Isaiah Pacheco, 14 for 55. Kareem Hunt 5 for 12.
Jason Moore
Disappointing. But you need to. This is like a takeaway moment. You had 14 carries for Pacheco to five for Kareem Hunt, 46% of the snaps to 29% of the snaps. Pacheco is. Now. This was a hard matchup against the Chargers, who are one of the best run defenses in the league. This low scoring divisional matchup. But Pacheco's good to go. You. He should be started going forward.
Mike Wright
Nick Chubb, it was the drone Ford only 36% of snaps. Jerome Ford was 56% of snaps. That's a problem. Yeah.
Jason Moore
You can't. You can't play them.
Mike Wright
Yeah. When they're playing catch up, it's going to be more forward. And then Jalen Warren, 9 for 47. A wide receiver. Jaden Reed, the Goose on Thursday night. Amon Ra, season low performance of 5 for 43. You don't worry about Almond Ra to play Jaden Reed at this point after a goose is very difficult to do. But the matchups are good. So you know he's going to be better than other. Some other options this week. He really will.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Playing him. If you don't have the right players to get Reed out, this is not a. Don't be angry and spiteful and be like, oh, you got me. Zero points. He is a good player. He's not a top 12 guy for fantasy football, but he should probably be in the majority of lineups.
Mike Wright
AJ Brown, another disappointing week. We talked about it. If you look at the last six games played, he's on pace for just 76 receptions.
Andy Holloway
I gotta go watch.
Jason Moore
Do you have any press conference?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Do you have any fears of like what we saw last year, it was.
Mike Wright
The locker room chat, not the presser.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Because last season, we saw A.J. brown. The first nine weeks, he was the wide receiver one.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that, like, stretch of 150s.
Mike Wright
I have massive worries about that.
Jason Moore
And then the. The whole second half, the last eight games played last season, he would not have had pace for a thousand yards, and he had one touchdown over the course of eight games.
Mike Wright
He's not different. He's the same. He's always open. He makes every contested catch. He's not getting the opportunities. I'm very worried about it. Well, don't worry. And when your quarterback throws for under 200, you're capped.
Andy Holloway
Don't. Guys, do not worry, because it's not working for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Jason Moore
Oh, I get it. Sarcasm. Because they keep winning. Yeah. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
That's why I want to watch the locker room. I want to see the face of a man who's mad that their team has rattled off nine straight victories.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Saquon is working. Their defense is great. Why would you change the recipe? They're not interested in A.J. brown's nine straight games receiving lines. This is. This is going to. This.
Mike Wright
Come on.
Jason Moore
You can easily see a path where this continues. And it's very difficult, almost impossible to say, to recommend benching A.J. brown.
Mike Wright
Yeah, you can't bench A.J. brown, but you might not get what you want.
Jason Moore
I mean, if you have. Like, there are situations where I think you might choose to bench Juwan Jennings. Juwan Jennings was the name that came to mind.
Andy Holloway
Cool, man.
Jason Moore
I would. 100%. I'm not benching Juwan Jennings. Who's been awesome. Cortland Sutton, you know, he's a guy that you might have got off of waivers halfway through. You got to play him over A.J. brown right now.
Andy Holloway
You got to rebrand Juwan Jennings in your head. Just look at like, it's JJ. Like, oh, I got Justin Jefferson here.
Jason Moore
Dude, the JJs rocked this week, but Jerry, Judy, Justin Jefferson, Juwan Jennings.
Andy Holloway
It was a good strat.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
What's wrong with DK Metcalf? 4 for 49 against Arizona, which he can't. But, like the last month. Wide receiver, 32. 37. 41. 42.
Jason Moore
Well, he's very banged up. I mean, he. He missed a couple games. He's been playing through injuries. He is also seeding.
Andy Holloway
So he's the wide receiver, too. On his own.
Jason Moore
I was going to say JSN is really taking over JSN's, I believe, since the kind of sounds like shopping network has happened. JSN's on pace for like almost 1800.
Mike Wright
Receiving yards since week four. Debo Samuel is the wide receiver. That is a full bench.
Jason Moore
That's not a 55 you want.
Mike Wright
That's a full bench.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean it should be. He's. He's really been bad if you look. I mean since week three he's had two games two where he had not just. He's had two games where he hasn't busted. I mean we're talking about total Fantasy points of 2.5 in a week of 0 in a week of 4.1. In a week of 2.62 4.5. This is the regular they run.
Mike Wright
They won going away scored four points. Let's just. Let's just.
Jason Moore
And the film backs it up. The film is he's not breaking tackles. The whole thing that makes Debo Samuel the now you're a man is like you just can't tackle this guy. He's bigger stronger than you now. He's slower and heavier.
Andy Holloway
Now you're old man.
Jason Moore
Yeah, now you're old man. That's what how it feels. It's going to be really tough. Maybe he'll have another game this year where he scores a couple touchdowns, but it'll be on the bench. And maybe you. Do you landmine him? Do you tempt someone out there to.
Mike Wright
Start by putting him on waiver? Sure.
Jason Moore
I mean I would pick him up for my league of record.
Mike Wright
Keenan Allen and Westbrook Akin a return to earth Westbrook Akini was so close he was to having the game would have been winning touchdown.
Andy Holloway
That part I don't remember.
Mike Wright
I think winning touchdown that was. He missed it and 1 for 19 and as soon as you return him to the bench he'll score again. And Marvin Harrison I mean if he doesn't score a touchdown he's averaging 3.7 fantasy points a game. That is Marvin Harrison right now which breaking news that's also most wide receivers and that's also Michael Wilson like that.
Andy Holloway
That is not a 22% target share.
Mike Wright
I don't.
Andy Holloway
For a top five pick a wide receiver who is drafting the top five 22% target shares is not. That's not forgivable.
Jason Moore
Well I don't. I don't blame. I don't blame that low of a target share because the catch percentage and the you know the in sync with Kyler percentage. It's not always a good idea to target him right now as a rookie.
Mike Wright
Now the play calling in Arizona is.
Andy Holloway
That's what I'm talking About.
Mike Wright
It's driving me insane. Jason, you and I watched the All 22 a few weeks ago when Kyler had one of his. What would that be? Is that the Jekyll performance? Which one's the good one, Jekyll or Hyde?
Jason Moore
I think Jekyll is the good.
Mike Wright
Yeah. So his Hyde performance.
Andy Holloway
Jekyll's the bad guy in the. In the story.
Mike Wright
Whatever one's bad.
Andy Holloway
Dr. Hyde is the scientist who turns himself.
Mike Wright
Hold on. We've got questions.
Andy Holloway
I don't know which you want for fantasy.
Jason Moore
It's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. The doctor is Mr. Hyde's bad. Jekyll is good. Wow.
Andy Holloway
Okay, I'm dumb.
Mike Wright
Anyways, Kyler's been Hyde, all right.
Andy Holloway
Hi. Ding.
Mike Wright
And when he is, you know, the all 22, the play calls for this Cardinals offense. They'll run four guys into long, developing routes down the field. They give him no escape.
Jason Moore
It's unbelievable. But at the same time, Marvin Harrison Jr. He's the wide receiver. 25 on the year. A disappointment for where you drafted him. He is leading, I believe, all rookie wide receivers in touchdowns. And, you know, he's had a lot of big games. So this isn't a. You know, some of these players we're talking about, I don't know how you start them anymore. You brought up, in the games where he doesn't have a touchdown, he's awful. But in the games where he has a touchdown, he's averaging 17 fantasy points. It's not like it's just a touchdown. So he's got. He's getting to 10. He has good games and bad games. And really, that's just what Kyler is. Kyler has good games and bad games.
Mike Wright
New England at home. But I can't imagine that I'm going Harrison over Jennings or Sutton. The names you mentioned before.
Jason Moore
Jennings.
Andy Holloway
Was that a Forrest Gump?
Jason Moore
That was a Forrest Gump swish. No, I got it out first. I got it out first. That was a swish.
Andy Holloway
What in the world?
Mike Wright
Where did you pull that from?
Jason Moore
I heard the way, Andy. No, this was great. Look. Oh, go to Deucer's Alley here. We got a 9 and a 10. That was a great joke. That was great. Because, Andy, the way he said Jennings was just like. How Forrest Gump. Jet Danes. It's good. It's good for. I'm gonna need feedback on that one.
Andy Holloway
No, I'm off. Apparently.
Mike Wright
I think just because the two poopers laugh.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Doesn't necessarily mean we'll see you, Wayne. Nailed it.
Andy Holloway
The people loved it.
Mike Wright
Brock Bowers 3 for 49.
Andy Holloway
Oh. Oh, SpaghettiOs.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
I mean, you don't get to make a mistake two weeks in a row in the playoffs. And so the idea of moving away from Barack Bowers if you had another option. Oh, no. You like it?
Mike Wright
Oh, no. Yeah, I wanted to try it.
Jason Moore
It's fun. If you've seen Forest, I mean, obviously if you haven't seen Forrest Gump, it's not a good joke. That's just called a reference and you don't get it. Go watch Forrest Gump Jennings. It's a lot of fun. Try it at home.
Mike Wright
How do you spell that, though? How do you put that in the nickname chart?
Jason Moore
Yeah, you can't.
Mike Wright
Oh, poor Juwan Jennings. Brock Bowers, you're going to keep playing him and praying. But nine targets for Michael Mayer in this game. I was. There was a point in the game where I was wondering if Brock bowers banged up TJ Hawkinson 4 for 45 not what you wanted. Evan Ingram 4 for 33. Travis Kelsey 5 for 45. Cole Comet Goose for Goosey Goose. And Kyle Pitts with his cursory one catch on six targets.
Jason Moore
Man, Kyle Pitts. I keep wondering, are we like, is.
Mike Wright
This funeral for Pitts and Debo or like they.
Jason Moore
So with Kyle Pitts, I genuinely keep wondering how much is him? But if you know he's going to get a decent to big second contract, he will. He's. He's a young, highly drafted, athletic, whatever. Like all you see the open market tight ends go and get decent contracts based on very little work done. Someone out there will pay for Kyle Pitts and I just, I scratch my head to go, is it all him? Is it mostly him? Is it half him? Like if he were to go to a different team, paying money, different scheme, better quarterback, could it work? I don't know. I'm skeptical. I think he phones it in a lot.
Mike Wright
I don't think he can separate very easily in any intermediate route. He can get downfield and get in, hide some, you know what I mean? He's got some top speed if he gets up to speed. But when I watch him run the routes, the kelsey route, the McBride route, the. In the middle of the field, I go and I make a break and I try to get out quick. I don't see that. No, that's what I see the problem. And that's the easy stuff for a tight end to rack up the total receptions.
Jason Moore
That's where it feels lazy. There's been a couple curl routes or breaking routes where it's like the effort just seems like.
Mike Wright
I don't think his legs work.
Jason Moore
Yeah, something. Something's weird. They did pick up his fifth year option, so he's got one more year in Atlanta.
Mike Wright
Can they undo that?
Jason Moore
I don't think so.
Andy Holloway
I don't know if you can.
Jason Moore
They would take it back if they could.
Andy Holloway
Can you?
Mike Wright
Well, we get a Monday night Football game tonight and we'll be watching that go burrow. Many of you are very, you know, you have your playoffs in the balance. We got waivers and streamers on tomorrow's show. We got hungry for more mailbag Thursday night preview on Wednesday. And we'll be with you as we head into the fantasy football playoffs. Obviously, I won't be here. I've got the buy, so I'll be. I think I'm hitting the beach maybe.
Andy Holloway
Oh, nice. Are you flying down south?
Mike Wright
I don't know. I'll call Jalen up and we'll go hang out.
Andy Holloway
Okay. It might be a little chilly.
Mike Wright
Chennangs.
Andy Holloway
Oh, no.
Mike Wright
All right, that'll do it for today's show. Thanks for tuning in. Check out the ultimate dashboard and bonus episode of the show@jointhefoot.com Goodbye, everybody.
Jason Moore
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast – Week 14 Studs & Duds + Fantasy Burns, Playoff Time (12/9)
Release Date: December 9, 2024
The Fantasy Footballers kicked off the episode with lively banter among hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright, discussing the thrills and spills from the weekend's NFL games. The conversation quickly delved into the dominance of the Kansas City Chiefs, with Jason Moore expressing his frustration:
Jason Moore [03:15]: "The Chiefs can't keep doing this, man. They have done this to themselves."
The hosts highlighted the Chiefs' consistent performance, noting their ability to win seemingly unachievable games, much to the dismay of non-fans.
Sam Darnold Shines
Sam Darnold emerged as a standout performer, delivering an impressive five-touchdown game. Jason Moore lauded Darnold's execution:
Jason Moore [26:24]: "Like it wasn't luck. It wasn't a screen pass that he looked outstanding every single throw."
Josh Allen’s Historic Performance
Josh Allen made history by becoming the first player to record three rushing and three passing touchdowns in a loss, amassing 42 points in fantasy:
Mike Wright [27:40]: "Josh Allen, fantasy darling, absolutely incredible. And you didn't win if you played against him."
Kirk Cousins’ Struggles
Kirk Cousins had a dismal performance, throwing for 344 yards with zero touchdowns and 34 interceptions over recent weeks. The hosts criticized his declining form:
Mike Wright [51:34]: "He is on pace for zero total passing touchdowns and 34 total interceptions."
Justin Herbert’s Injury Woes
Justin Herbert's playing through injury has been a concern, with Mike Wright highlighting the impact on his fantasy value:
Mike Wright [20:10]: "He's playing through injury. Ed. No. Connell. Looks like a season-ending injury for Raiders quarterback Aiden O'Connell."
Hasty Decisions Based on Early Performance
The hosts emphasized the dangers of making snap judgments based on a few poor performances early in the season. Mike Wright cautioned against letting initial "fantasy burns" cloud long-term player potential:
Mike Wright [09:02]: "This could be like major, major issue."
Overreacting to Player Slumps
Jason Moore shared insights on maintaining composure during player slumps, referencing players like Mark Andrews who rebounded after back-to-back underperforming games:
Jason Moore [13:57]: "Everyone was dropping Mark Andrews after the back-to-back gooses and since that time I'm pretty sure he's like a top three tight end."
Stay Calm and Analyze Playoff Matchups
In the "Ready to Roll" segment, the hosts discussed strategies for navigating the fantasy playoffs. They stressed the importance of remaining calm and focusing on favorable matchups rather than making impulsive roster changes based on short-term performance.
Mike Wright highlighted the unpredictability of wide receivers based on early-season rankings:
Mike Wright [11:28]: "Half of the top 10 fantasy wide receivers on the year right now were outside the top 30 after three weeks."
Identifying Playoff-Friendly Players
Jason Moore and Andy Holloway discussed identifying players with advantageous playoff schedules, such as Adam Thielen and Bryce Young, who are positioned to perform well in the crucial weeks ahead.
Andy Holloway [15:25]: "Dallas, Arizona, and Tampa Bay."
Injuries Impacting Fantasy Decisions
The hosts provided updates on key player injuries that could influence fantasy lineups:
Derek Carr: Fractured left hand, potentially in concussion protocol. Mike Wright discussed the negative impact on the Saints' offense.
Mike Wright [17:57]: "He is the fear. Okay, the car into the shop."
Isaac Grendel: Left game with a foot injury, awaiting further imaging.
Andy Holloway [19:50]: "Feels great about his performance."
Bucky Irving: Sustained a non-contact right knee injury, raising concerns about his future performances.
Mike Wright [20:12]: "Jaden Reed being in this list surrounded by just people being annihilated like Anus Winston and he's just. Jaden peed and he's out here."
Quarterback Changes and Team Struggles
The episode covered the Raiders' quarterback woes with Aiden O'Connell's potential season-ending injury, and the broader implications for teams like the Giants and Chargers heading into the playoffs.
Jason Moore [22:10]: "He's going to score a touchdown."
Rookie and Tight End Performances
Discussions included the inconsistent performances of rookie wide receivers and tight ends, highlighting players like Trey McBride and Kyle Pitts who have shown both promise and unpredictability.
Jason Moore [44:43]: "Johnny... He goosed. He had zero points."
As the fantasy playoffs approach, the Fantasy Footballers urged listeners to focus on data-driven decisions, leveraging favorable matchups, and avoiding emotional reactions to short-term player performances. The hosts emphasized the importance of adaptability and strategic planning to secure championship victories.
Mike Wright [17:41]: "Stay water. Be willing to let the burns go."
The episode concluded with humor and camaraderie, reinforcing the podcast's commitment to providing insightful and entertaining fantasy football analysis.
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