Week 14 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Say Hello to My Kittle Friend

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 14 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Say Hello to My Kittle Friend

Release Date: December 10, 2018

Hosts: Andy Holloway and Jason Moore

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Episode Overview

In this engaging Week 14 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway and Jason Moore dive deep into the tumultuous fantasy football playoffs. With Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright absent for this episode, Andy and Jason take center stage, delivering astute analysis, strong opinions, and matchup-winning advice to help listeners navigate the final stretch of the fantasy season. The conversation is rich with insights on surprising player performances, injury impacts, and strategies to secure a championship.

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Fantasy Playoff Surprises and Disappointments

The episode begins with the hosts reflecting on the unpredictable nature of the fantasy playoffs, comparing it humorously to Adam Sandler's inconsistent filmography—highlighting the blend of standout performances and unexpected failures.

Jason Moore notes the chaotic nature of the playoffs:

"[03:45] Jason Moore: And this was the craziest first week of fantasy playoffs that I can remember in recent history because you had studs that blew it. You had, you know, guys that are on waivers or maybe not started who we get plenty of pictures just blowing up for huge. I mean, this was a crazy, crazy week."

They discuss the challenges fantasy owners face in selecting reliable players, emphasizing the need to adapt strategies amidst unforeseen player performances and injuries.

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Studs of the Week

Studs are players who exceeded expectations, providing substantial value to their fantasy teams.

• Saquon Barkley continues to impress with his versatility as both a runner and a pass-catcher. Andy Holloway praises Barkley's consistent performance:

  "[27:05] Andy Holloway: I mean, I don't think there's a better peer runner than Saquon Barkley."

• Christian McCaffrey showcases his dual-threat capability, averaging impressive yardage and touchdowns:

  "[30:14] Jason Moore: Christian McCaffrey."

• George Kittle shines at the tight end position, demonstrating exceptional receiving skills:

  "[37:00] Andy Holloway: He has a very cool ability to change direction without losing his speed in open space."

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Duds of the Week

Conversely, Duds are players who underperformed, letting down their fantasy managers.

• Jared Goff struggled significantly, ending the game with multiple interceptions and negative yardage:

  "[09:01] Jason Moore: That just seems impossible. It seems that hurts me painful as the opponent."

• Antonio Brown and Tyreek Hill faced disappointing weeks, impacting their teams' playoff chances:

  "[53:37] Jason Moore: How'd Tevin Coleman do this week?"
  "[10:51] Jason Moore: Tyreek heel."

• Case Keenum underperformed with low passing yards and inefficient play-calling:

  "[09:24] Andy Holloway: It'll be interesting to see what happens to Austin Eckler on the game's Thursday for them."

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Rising Stars

The hosts highlight emerging players who showed promise and could be valuable additions or starters in upcoming weeks.

• Damian Williams earns praise for his athleticism and attitude, making him a potential streaming candidate:

  "[29:34] Andy Holloway: Who would you rather have as a platoon running back moving forward? Damian Williams of the Kansas City Chief."

• Josh Allen is recognized for his dual-threat capabilities as both a passer and a runner, despite some inconsistency:

  "[43:46] Andy Holloway: He is running for 100 yards a game as a quarterback. He is the QB 10 this week with no touchdown passes, two interceptions and one fumble as Detroit New England."

• Julio Jones continues to demonstrate his receiving prowess, maintaining high yardage and consistent performance:

  "[33:19] Andy Holloway: And Julio Touchdown Jones."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jason Moore on Facing a Superstar Team:

  "[02:51] Jason Moore: Oh, I would not want to face that."

• Andy Holloway on Jared Goff's Performance:

  "[09:24] Andy Holloway: And we've been saying around the studio and look, I've already heard from the Rams fans, blame the O line, whatever."

• Jason Moore on Studs and Duds:

  "[24:57] Jason Moore: I'm just saying if he's one of the guys that could drop in and out every single week."

• Andy Holloway on Fantasy Playoff Strategies:

  "[25:18] Andy Holloway: Okay, so I've just completely disintegrated all of your joy for this show."

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Injury Impacts and Management

Injuries play a significant role in the fantasy playoffs, with several key players sidelined or performing below expectations due to physical setbacks.

• Austin Ekeler and Justin Jackson faced injuries that affected their teams' dynamics:

  "[13:23] Jason Moore: Right. It makes you worried for next week."

• Tyreek Hill's inconsistent availability due to heel injuries poses a challenge for fantasy managers:

  "[10:51] Jason Moore: Let me ask you this genuine question. Tyreek heel."

• The absence of Mike Wright for this episode led Andy and Jason to explore a wider range of topics independently.

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Strategies for the Final Weeks

Andy and Jason offer strategic advice for the final weeks of the fantasy playoffs, emphasizing flexibility and awareness of player statuses.

• Pivoting Strategies: Adjusting lineups based on current performance and injury reports is crucial.

  "[25:18] Andy Holloway: Okay, so I've just completely disintegrated all of your joy for this show."

• Waiver Wire Management: Monitoring the waiver wire for emerging players like Marcus Murphy can provide a competitive edge.

  "[13:46] Andy Holloway: Well, depending on what the fantasy leagues do, maybe they'll just designate Josh Allen as a running back because he's putting up more yardage than just about anybody on that team."

• Tight End Position: Utilizing players like Ian Thomas as streaming options when primary tight ends underperform.

  "[47:00] Jason Moore: I would go with routes, but yeah, similar thing because snaps for a tight end."

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Humor and Light Banter

Throughout the episode, Andy and Jason infuse humor and playful banter, making the discussion entertaining. References to popular culture, playful insults towards underperforming players, and lighthearted promotions keep the tone engaging.

• Andy Holloway's Joke on Episode Number:

  "[53:00] Andy Holloway: This is episode 666."

• Jason Moore's Comment on Madden:

  "[38:08] Jason Moore: I love this, this accuracy level on Madden."

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Conclusion and Takeaways

As the fantasy football playoffs intensify, Andy Holloway and Jason Moore provide listeners with a comprehensive analysis of player performances, injury impacts, and strategic adjustments needed to navigate the unpredictable landscape. The episode underscores the importance of adaptability, informed decision-making, and staying vigilant with player statuses to emerge victorious in the fantasy playoffs.

Listeners are encouraged to stay connected with the Fantasy Footballers community for ongoing support and insights as they make crucial lineup decisions in the final weeks of the season.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

It's a bear. How embarrassing.

[Andy Holloway]

Got any others?

[Jason Moore]

That's the first one that came to my mind.

[Andy Holloway]

I got nothing cuz it's unbearable.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Sometimes to do a show with just you. Monday, December 10th. Jason is here. Center stage.

[Jason Moore]

I'm always here. Except when I'm throwing up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, there's a bear. There's a bear where Mike used to be. Mike is. Mike's gone this week. So we are going to be holding it down and we've got a ton to talk about. Here I am. Andy Holloway Brooks is here. Yes, I am. Yeah. Yeah. My goodness. My goodness. Sometimes fantasy football is a lot like Adam Sandler's filmography. Jason, did you know that? Did you know that?

[Jason Moore]

I. Yeah, that is a perfect comp.

[Andy Holloway]

You gotta take the good with the bad.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, there are some real highs, some real stinkers. Filmography. Listen, Happy Gilmore.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, come on. Billy Madison.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the Billy Madison way. But there's some, there's some money grabs in there. You know, there's some. What is all the parent? The like. Doesn't he have a list of. I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't even remember.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like the movie's called like Parent Friends.

[Andy Holloway]

You think it has grown ups here.

[Jason Moore]

It is grown ups. Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Parent Friends.

[Jason Moore]

Parent Friends. This movie's called Grownups.

[Andy Holloway]

You were kind of remembering it. You were trying not to remember it. Which is what some fantasy owners are gonna have to do this week. They're gonna do their best to wipe the memories, to go full Men in Black. Just take a pill, forget what happened. I mean, I tweeted this morning, how'd you like to go into the fantasy playoffs? Right? And let's roll this lineup out there. Let's go with. Let's go with the Jared Goff, Todd Gurley Stack.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I would not want to face that.

[Andy Holloway]

What if my other running back. And then I had Antonio Brown.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I'm going against the best. I don't want this. Kenny G. No.

[Andy Holloway]

Zach Ertz, baby.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the. Yeah. No. I'm dead. I'm dead in the water. That's a superstar team.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm a flex Brandon cooks.

[Jason Moore]

Ouch. A flex.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm a flex Brandon cooks out there for stacking with golf. Yeah, yeah, I know what you ended up with. Grownups. You ended up with a. You ended up theatrical debut of grown ups.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. You ended up with friends. I can't even remember the name.

[Andy Holloway]

Parent friends.

[Jason Moore]

Parent friends.

[Andy Holloway]

Parent friends. Well, we're going to help, you know, we're going to help you deal with it. And if you won, congratulations. There were some huge winners this week. It just wasn't everybody you expected it to be. We've got a lot of the Monday punday. The one liners from the foot clan. We'll get into rising stars. Stud muffins.

[Jason Moore]

And this was the craziest first week of fantasy playoffs that I can remember in recent history because you had studs that blew it. You had, you know, guys that are on waivers or maybe not started who we get plenty of pictures just blowing up for huge. I mean, this was a crazy, crazy week.

[Andy Holloway]

I saw you and I were both tagged on a tweet that we both replied to and it was a person saying they. They wanted. They dropped Amari Cooper to leave him as a landmine.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Just to.

[Jason Moore]

I believe what he meant was gold mine. I'm gonna leave him here for the opponent to find a gold mine.

[Andy Holloway]

And we both said the same thing. We go, no, you can't do that. He's a must start in Dallas.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I found oil. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he responded or somebody responded. You know, a leopard doesn't change its spots. Yeah, they do. They do. He changed teams. He's really, really good now. But we have a ton to get into. Follow us on twitter @the ff ballers. Follow us all off season as well. This show keeps going. We get you. We reflect on the past season, lessons we've learned, all the players to pay attention to, things to remember, things we learned well.

[Jason Moore]

And you guys are going to be part of the footies right after the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The awards make the list of nominees. You guys will vote to decide, you know, who was the best nickname, who was the biggest poop in their pants award, who was the superstar who. I mean, those are fun. That's a fun voting process.

[Andy Holloway]

Here are some Monday punday one liners from the foot clan. Always delivering. Well, most often. Most often. We've got a lot of people with the Amari super reference. That's the low hanging fruit there.

[Jason Moore]

It rhymes.

[Andy Holloway]

Trying to recuperate after the Cowboys game.

[Jason Moore]

If you played against them, good luck.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Even if you played with him on your team, that was a lot of points to take in.

[Jason Moore]

That could dehydrate you watching that game for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Have a Mari Christmas. Okay. Okay. That makes sense. Or if you're really lucky, have yourself Amari Kittle Christmas.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's. That's nice.

[Andy Holloway]

I would like that.

[Jason Moore]

I would want that stack.

[Andy Holloway]

Brooks and I both have a buy in two different leagues, and we both have George Kittle, and it's better to have the buy. Right. That's a free win, Brooks. But didn't it just feel like you wanted to save some of those points for next week? Oh, Yeah. I mean, 32 fantasy points in the first half in our league.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, good. Yeah. That's nuts.

[Andy Holloway]

You had the. The crazy. Crazy. Oh, we got some kiddo ones. Say hello to my kiddo friend.

[Jason Moore]

Say hello to my kittle friend.

[Andy Holloway]

Kitty little friend. A kiddo goes a long way. Yes, it does. I had more tweets after that first half of how well, 44 fab was well worth it. Well worth it. He's on pace for like 1400 receiving yards. I get by with a kiddo help from my friends. I should have sung that one, but Mike's not here to scold me. That would have been smart. The Grand Canyon.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Kenyon, Drake. Shout out to my best bud right there. That was your friend Brooks. Yep. Joel, Shout out the Grand Canyon. That one of the seven wonders of.

[Jason Moore]

The world play was awesome. Going into the week, everyone, everything you heard is Tom Brady can't win in Miami. Tom Brady can't win in Miami. He's like one in four going in, and then the game is over and you're going, ah, see, he can win.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, wait a minute.

[Jason Moore]

What is this play?

[Andy Holloway]

I think they said, like, December, other divisional games, or just December games is like 29 and 2 and he's like 1 and 6 against them or 1 and 5 and. Well, I want to know who strapped the ice skates on to Rob Gronkowski before the play. That's what I want to know.

[Jason Moore]

It's a smart move.

[Andy Holloway]

I Drake your milkshake.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Start of the week, Adrian Poop and Peterson.

[Jason Moore]

That's my favorite. That's. It's. Just. It's right to the point you don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Have to impress me. No.

[Jason Moore]

Adrian Poop and Peterson.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, then you must appreciate Antonio. Flush it down.

[Jason Moore]

If it's Brown, I like Antonio Brown too much. I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

That hurts.

[Jason Moore]

That one hurts me. I thought he was going to be the undoing of my fantasy matchup. Early in the day I thought I was going to lose and it was all because I had the best wide receiver in the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Antonio frown. Is that who you are?

[Jason Moore]

Antonio frown. That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

Alone for the Galladays. Sometimes size and stature doesn't get you very far. Kenny G. Cortland Sutton.

[Jason Moore]

Well, at least Cortland Sutton had an injury to deal with.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's what I've been calling myself. Scam Newton. Scam Newton. Yeah, we've been talking about the playoff matchup. He did not show up. Also Cam pooping.

[Jason Moore]

So his teammates did, thankfully. It's weird because almost everybody that you started there in Carolina you were happy with, except for Cam.

[Andy Holloway]

I haven't read these yet. My opponent went to Jared and now I'm in the semis. I like that one. He went to Jared.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Jared Goff. I saw a screenshot this morning. Brooks, a guy needed 0.5 points from Jared Goff to win going into the game. He got negative.34 interceptions, 180 yards.

[Jason Moore]

That just seems impossible. It seems that hurts me painful as the opponent. You go into that game saying maybe he gets injured on the first play while he throws up some crazy, you know, while he's getting hit and it's an interception. So he gets minus two and he's out for the game. He played the whole game. He played the whole game, passed a lot and finished.

[Andy Holloway]

And we've been saying around the studio and look, I've already heard from the Rams fans, blame the O line, whatever. I would blame the Bears personally, but he has looked a little bit off. Yeah, I mean Jared off the last three weeks.

[Jason Moore]

If you go back and listen to the last matchup, I talked about how worried I was about Goff. That was a real trap type of game going on. He has. He hasn't been good since he lost Cooper Cup. He was on the road in 20 degree weather against a great matchup. Great pass rush. It was, it was one of those like feel like you're going to start them but you're going to regret it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Lions game, 51% passing, 207 and 1 and bears 45% passing. The four picks pass a rating of 19. Oh, that reminded. He was having ghosts of Jeff Fisher past in that game. Fools. Golden Tate. Yeah. Tyler Void. I like that. Desean went Hamilton. Yeah. I'm not sure I would qualify it as went ham. I mean, what. What did he put up?

[Jason Moore]

Daeshun was okay. I mean, compared to Sutton, I certainly would not say he went ham.

[Andy Holloway]

Ham is like 207 for 47 and one. That's good. That's great. Cortland sitting next week. And then I'm closing it out with my demoralizing tale of the week, which is Tyreek heel. Tyreek heel.

[Jason Moore]

Now, let me ask you.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I'm going to be monitoring that situation. Tyreek Hill going out and in and out and in with the injury.

[Jason Moore]

Let me ask this question for you. Tyreek heel.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Is that spelled H E E because of the foot or is that a command? And it's spelled H E A because you need him.

[Andy Holloway]

I would like Tyreek to heal.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. I would like his heel. I would like his heel to heal.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I would write it like this. I'd write H E E L. And then I put the two. You know what I mean? Like this in the corner, like, to the power of two.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Little science joke.

[Jason Moore]

Crickets. Yeah, that's crickets right there. That's a math.

[Andy Holloway]

You're more of a. First and foremost, you're more of a pooper. Peterson type of.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. Yes. Know your audience.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, my bad. The bear didn't give me much footclan. Vote.com. make sure you check it out. Help support us. We've got the iHeartRadio podcast awards coming in January. Let's go ahead and dig into the rewind.

[Jason Moore]

Weekly rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

Odell Beckham Jr. I talked about it on the live stream on Sunday morning. You know, because we didn't get news of Odell missing this game until late in the weekend. He was out with a quad injury. Surprise.

[Jason Moore]

It was crazy. I mean, we knew he was dealing with a quad injury in practice, but it never seemed like he had any chance of missing the game. And then it's like, oh, yeah, he didn't make the trip.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. So. And then.

[Jason Moore]

Which is why apparently Eli Manning was so good. How does that work?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. There's a lot of pressure sometimes throwing to the numero uno force feeding him now he did what he wants to do. Target Benny Fowler. That's really his life goes wanted to his life goal. Austin Eckler suffered a stinger in week 14. I was reading about this this morning. Pro football doc weighing in. It'll be interesting to see what happens to Austin Eckler on the game's Thursday for them. It's a big game, obviously. Will Melvin Gordon return? Justin Jackson? Yeah. Didn't perform in a matchup where, look, it was against the Bengals and he had some opportunities. Not good. I mean, just trash. So we'll watch Austin Eckler. We'll keep you up to date. This was big news. LaShawn McCoy, for once, was injured and didn't return after suffering a hamstring injury. Most of the time he goes off the field, checks his email and comes back in.

[Jason Moore]

Right. It makes you worried for next week. And actually, you should also be monitoring because. Because of the fact he didn't come back in, it's like, oh, it has to. He probably doesn't have a leg anymore. You have to monitor Chris Ivory because Chris Ivory went out of that game as well. So it could be Marcus Murphy. We'll know a little bit more by the waiver wire show tomorrow, but Marcus Murphy might be a good waiver wire pickup.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, depending on what the fantasy leagues do, maybe they'll just designate Josh Allen as a running back because he's putting up more yardage than just about anybody on that team.

[Jason Moore]

Than any running backs. Correct?

[Andy Holloway]

Correct. Tyreek Heel. Tyreek Hill played through the injury on Sunday, told NBC Sports Peter King this morning. My foot is bad.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Super naughty.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm hoping it's more of a Michael Jackson.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you know what I mean? Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Bad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You know it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I was with you.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Jordan Reed suffered a foot injury, didn't return. Big Ben exited briefly again. He's another guy that you normally hear gets banged up. It was surprising not to see him out there. Came back into the game, led them down the field.

[Jason Moore]

The Jordan Reed one we glossed over, but that's his foot. He's done. I'm just saying Jordan Reed is not one to be a quick recoverer. No injury.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no. He doesn't heal well. Isaiah Crowell suffered a foot injury. We'll talk tomorrow. Waiver show. But look, opportunities there in New York. At the running back position. We'll see. Cortland Sutton dealt with a thigh injury against the 49ers. You could see he wasn't on the field very often. Also, Case Keenum's really bad. That didn't help nothing downfield. Case Keenum, he had the internal clock of like, negative one second before he would throw a screen pass to somebody. Very, very covered. It was always Matt Lacoste with a guy on him. It was Philip Lindsay with a guy on him. There were not. It was really an embarrassing performance to me for Case Keno. He just did not stay in the pocket, did not drive the ball down the field, did not challenge with the size of Cortland Sutton. I was. Look, I was hoping if you're a Broncos defense owner, you needed them to win this game. The Ravens and Steelers lost. This was an opportunity for Denver to possibly make the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's a huge game, but the 49ers, I mean, some of it you lost. You know, if your Case Keenum, you lost to Marius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders and you're playing with nothing but rookies. So it's. It's difficult.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree with you. I agree with you. Kind of looks a little bit like how Matthew Stafford looks, which is you've lost Golden Tate and you don't look like you're in a comfort zone anymore. Bruce Ellington of the Lions, left with a hamstring injury, didn't return. Lamar Jackson didn't play the final two snaps of the game because of an ankle injury. His X rays were negative.

[Jason Moore]

This will be really interesting because. Because he's. It was negative. He's going to be fine. You know who else is fine? Cleared to play?

[Andy Holloway]

Joe Flacco.

[Jason Moore]

Joe Flacco.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what's crazy, too, is I saw John Harbaugh's face. It didn't look like a face that wanted to play Lamar Jackson next week after he had that fumble that basically cost him the game. I don't know. He just looked beyond frustrated with that play. We'll see what happens with the injury. Corey Clement suffered a sprained knee. Looked worse than it actually ended up. And then Mark Sanchez, Surprise, surprise. First time he was starting a game in something like 1200 days and he was benched. He wore a player sign this week.

[Jason Moore]

He was not the surprise. I mean, we all knew he was going to stink and be terrible and be the worst. The real surprise was Josh Johnson. What in the world? He hasn't thrown a pass since 2011.

[Andy Holloway]

You're talking about the number 11 quarterback on the week, Josh Johnson, who's played in the third quarter.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, the quarterback won. Who was still listed as inactive in a lot of different places because, I don't know, he's been out of the league for half a decade more. I mean, it's insane.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's going to stink next week.

[Jason Moore]

He's my rising star.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, please.

[Jason Moore]

No, not really.

[Andy Holloway]

Doug Baldwin, Monday Night Football tonight, game time decision. When we submit, like our rankings earlier and you know, before the weekend, we have to make decisions on whether a player is going to play or not. I chose to go the direction of he's not playing. I don't think Doug Baldwin's going to go. But he is one of the toughest players in football and he has a very. He's got the power of persuasion over the history of his Seattle.

[Jason Moore]

I made the bet that he's going to be in the game and irrelevant.

[Andy Holloway]

So four touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

He's my wide receiver. 40 something.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. We'll keep you up to date with all the latest injury news this week as you prepare the waiver show tomorrow. We're gonna talk some studs. Before we do that, I want to talk about the stud up on the wall. You got an autograph juju Smith Schuster jersey. Looking nice. And he is such a good player. He is such a good player.

[Jason Moore]

I believe he leads the league in red zone targets right now, which is very nice.

[Andy Holloway]

He is great and a couple of just really amazing catches. Got the autographed jersey up there from Pristine Auction. We pick up autograph jerseys from Pristine Auction all the time. These guys got me a gift of an Arian Foster autographed jersey from there one time for my birthday. And you got Christmas right around the corner. Listen to some things that just sold on Pristine auction. Odell Beckham Jr. Sign, chrome mini helmet, $98 Todd Gurley signed photo $55 Stefan Diggs signed jersey, $94. Vance Dance. You want to do the Vance dance with a jersey of Vance McDonald that's autographed by him?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. 100 and what?

[Andy Holloway]

50 bucks.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, 50 bucks.

[Jason Moore]

50 bucks.

[Andy Holloway]

All authentic autographs from one of the best companies in the business on one of the best websites on the World Wide Web. Pristineauction.com hey in Foot Clan want to.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Shout out to the Bears, by the way.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, they were a stud muffin.

[Andy Holloway]

What an incredible defense. What an incredibly surprising like I think we all cited on the Sean McVeigh finds a way to score 30 points side of things this week. So, yeah, shame on us. I guess J. Grizz was trying to tell us that this was going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

That crowd, man, I mean, honestly, shout out to the, to the Chicago fans out there in the 20 degree weather, that was just like I, if I was a Ram, I don't think I'd want to be there. I just be like, this is, this is a bad environment for me.

[Andy Holloway]

I just this week and now everybody has their fantasy surprises, disappointments. We're going to talk about the studs right now. But this week in the NFL, if you want to know why things go sideways for certain players with certain expectations, good or bad, just look at the NFL. I mean, three of the worst teams in the league won this week, right? And then you had games like, okay, first of all, the Browns, by the way, third win under their head coach, which is the total amount of wins that Hugh Jackson had. But they beat the Panthers this week. Okay, so they've won three games in the last five, I believe. And then the Chargers barely squeaked by the Bengals. That look like a gimme. The Giants crushed the Redskins.

[Jason Moore]

The Raiders beat the Steelers. That one is unbelievable. I don't care if you missed Big Ben for a little bit of time. If you didn't have Big Ben the whole time, you should have trounced the Raiders.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, the Saints looked as bad as you can look in winning 28 to 14 against Tampa, in my opinion.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

The jets beat the Bills, the Raiders, the Jets, I mean, these are all team.

[Jason Moore]

And the 49ers, Giants, the 49ers, they're all winners.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, and as a Cardinal fan, having lost horribly once again, hopefully you started the Lions D It makes me happy because we're back in it for that number one pick.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe Get a quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Well, let's start.

[Jason Moore]

Josh. Hashtag not sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

Who did you apologize to?

[Jason Moore]

Josh Rosen.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I see. I'd say sorry. Wish it was Josh Allen as the quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, I don't want either.

[Andy Holloway]

So, stud muffins this week. Tom Brady, Dak Prescott, Ryan Tannehill, Andrew Luck back on track. Pat Mahomes didn't really win you the week, but he sure showed me something. 53 pass attempts, no Kareem Hunt facing the best defense in the league and going the no look pass route.

[Jason Moore]

That was unbelievable. When you watch the play live, you thought that was a really good Pat. He bought time. It was. It was a, you know, just a pro move. It was Looked really veteran. And then when you watch it from the, you know, the Madden angle, the angle from behind the quarterback, you go, oh, that is not a veteran move. That is an idiotic. He no look past, but not like, no look past the screen. He no look past a guy running 15 yards down the field across between defenders. It was like nothing I'd ever seen.

[Andy Holloway]

And traditionally you look off the safety and then you look at your receiver and throw them the football. Keep your eyes on the target receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He's like, I'm going to look off the safety. And that guy's got the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Sucker. Yeah. So I got some breaking news.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

It looks like we were the runner up in the sports category for the Discover Pods Awards just announced. Oh, well, ESPN's 30 for 30. Congratulations. You won the sports award. We were selected as the runner up. How's that feel?

[Jason Moore]

It doesn't feel good. And let me just say this, I AM Very. Look, ESPN's 30 for 30 series is awesome. And they are very different.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, that's a documentary series.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

They don't say pooper pee at all. No.

[Jason Moore]

And see, that's my big problem is it's like, you know, I get it, I get it. The tie is tight and the buttons are up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, we could do documentary style, no problem. Oh, right.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I couldn't. I mean, I'd be so bored.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But you and Mike would. Would be great with that. No, it feels bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Congratulations, breaking news. It feels bad. I thought you'd be, you know, runner up. I mean, that's kind of your wheelhouse.

[Jason Moore]

Well, what I feel like is runner up is the first loser. So I know you win some, you lose some. You lose in the championship game, you get no credit. You don't. I don't go around going, well, you know, at least I got to the championship game, my heart is broken.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so I've just completely disintegrated all of your joy for this show.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, at the quarterback position, I don't. I don't see a ton of stuff to discuss. I mean, Dak Prescott is looking great with Amari Cooper. If Amari Cooper can deliver big play capabilities, it just takes one.

[Jason Moore]

You can't forget that over Dak Prescott's first, you know, 42 for 54, his first 20 games or so in his career, he was a fantasy force, a top 12 quarterback week in, week out. And with Amari Cooper and with the momentum, the mental, you know, look, they're. They're on fire right now. I think he's a guy you can stick with. He's playing at Indianapolis this next week, then Tampa Bay to finish it out. So Dak Prescott, if you need to pivot at quarterback, you're still in it. He's a great option. I was most impressed. Probably Tom Brady impressed me because he has struggled on the road, and he was low. He finished number one. So, yeah, not, not, not too much to discuss. Matt Ryan pulled out a game even though he was stinking. Like, watching, watching the game, it was like he just didn't look that good.

[Andy Holloway]

Derek Henry, we know the story. 17 for 238 and 4. When you get into the running back studs, Saquon Barkley is super good at football. 14 for 170 and one. You get the feeling at any given moment, on any given play, I mean, you see the best. Let me ask this question, because I was talking to some people yesterday, and I don't want to just be like, okay, Gurley had his worst game of the year. Barkley ran for 170. But is there a pure runner in football? Like, if it's Barkley, David Johnson, Ezekiel Elliott, Todd Gurley, Le'Veon Bell. Le'Veon Bell. Are those are the five that you're thinking about?

[Jason Moore]

Maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I don't think there's a better peer runner than Saquon Barkley.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think there's a better running back. I don't think there's a better pass catcher. Maybe David Johnson could be in the pass catching category, but Saquon Barkley is the best running back in football. He does not require the offensive line like most players do. I mean, we've seen David Johnson struggle this year without the good offense around him. We've seen Todd Gurley struggle when Jeff Fisher was there, and a Bad offensive line. There's a lot of metrics that track the offensive line versus the running back and the two most reliable places that I've looked at before. Todd Gurley has been the same the last three years. As far as his tracking. What has changed so dramatically is the offensive line. Saquon, what if they actually get an offensive line in the future and an offense like.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just. He's ridiculous. His balance, his vision ran for another 170. I think he's been over 100 for four straight games. He's going to think he's just behind Gurley and Zeke for the league leader at that category. But next week, set it. Forget it. Tennessee at home, play him and then championship week you get Indianapolis for Saquon Barkley. Zeke was great again. I mean, he's right in that category. 28 for 113. He's awesome. And he's got Indianapolis coming up.

[Jason Moore]

And he was a wide receiver as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. 12 for 79. Wow.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, that's just. That's what we've always dreamed about with Zeke and I know Brooks, you're on the other side of the bracket. I'm hoping to meet you in the championship. Between the two of us in the dynasty league, a 50% chance of getting that championship. I guess you and Mike had the buys in the league of records. So the ballers are representing 50% chance in two different leagues. So we'll get one. That's math.

[Andy Holloway]

Damian Williams. Thoughts on Damian Williams Jason, I know you're a huge fan.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man, he is.

[Andy Holloway]

You've spoke his praises for years. Talent wise.

[Jason Moore]

Talent, talent wise. I do think that he is among the worst. But he must have such a good attitude in practice that he.

[Andy Holloway]

Two touchdowns, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, two touchdowns, eight for 14. So it's very efficient. Got a touchdown and then he had another pass catching touch. He'll be involved. I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Spencer Ware was dealing with a couple injuries.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, during the game he was.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. At one point Andy and I thought he broke his collarbone the way he went down and stayed on the ground and was grabbing it. But we'll keep an eye on that.

[Andy Holloway]

Who would you rather have as a platoon running back moving forward? Damian Williams of the Kansas City Chief. Jalen Samuels for as long as you get him in Pittsburgh or Jeff Wilson Jr.

[Jason Moore]

If I knew that all three were, you know, if Jalen Samuels and Jeff Wilson situation was not changing, I would want both of those guys ahead of Damian Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Joe Mixon kept running hard 26 for one 11 and one. Great matchup next week. Oakland at home. Christian McCaffrey was great again. He should have had three touchdowns. Ended up with two. That's if you're really greedy. He just got 12 touchdowns in his last seven games. Twice.

[Jason Moore]

Christian McCaffrey.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm really excited not to play him next week because I. It looks like it's very. It looks like I'm not going to face him in our league of record after the buy. And I face him like what, four times this year. Because he kept getting traded, right? Yeah, he kept getting traded to my opponent and then he would just score a billion points against me.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it is. I'm interested to see what happens next week because New Orleans has pretty much shut down the running back position. But Christian McCaffrey, because he's utilized the way he is.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought you were going to tell me they're going to trade McCaffrey in the NFL ahead of next week's matchup.

[Jason Moore]

After the deadline, just to. Just because of Andy Holloway's team. But that'll be interesting. Kind of, you know, too.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just too involved. He's too involved. Wide receivers. Oh, my goodness.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, we're hanging.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know what that dance was. I just did.

[Jason Moore]

It was terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

Amari Cooper. It wasn't really a dance. I wasn't into it. I was like, let me see you go. Much better.

[Jason Moore]

It was worse.

[Andy Holloway]

Amari Cooper, 10 for 217 and 3. What do you do? What do you do? I know you play him now. He's got Indianapolis, Tampa coming up. But how good is Amari Cooper? How consistent will he be on the Dallas Cowboys heading into next season? Assuming it's the target.

[Jason Moore]

It's the targets that he. I mean, he'll head in. He'll get all the money in the world from Jerry Jones and he probably should.

[Andy Holloway]

There were three and five when they traded for him. They're eight and five, dominating the division.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they've won every game since they've had him. He was clearly. They were lacking a number one. And the thing is that I like about Amari Cooper, his talent has always been there. He just disappeared in targets so often. That's never going to happen with the Cowboys. It seems they're so committed to making him the one and involving him in the offense, almost building the passing offense around Amari Cooper, that the talent has the opportunity to win out.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and you know, Cooper's never been consistent. That's been the problem. He's had boom games. Oh, his Whole career it's just the consistent targets and being treated like the number one is the difference. You know, you heard those rumors from Gruden on the way into the season, right? All the talk of Cooper, but the targets, Derek Carr's consistency, whatever it was, didn't work out.

[Jason Moore]

What if, what if, what if one team had Mack and Cooper on it?

[Andy Holloway]

That'd be a good Amari Cooper and Khalil Mack.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that'd be a powerful team.

[Andy Holloway]

If you could trade for both those guys, just imagine your future future'd be bright really quick. I traded Amari Cooper in a league this year, partway through the year when Dallas traded for him, I traded for Tevin Coleman. How do you feel about that? I am now against. That made me lose. This week I'm against Amari Cooper. Oh my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

How'd Tevin Coleman do this week?

[Andy Holloway]

He's on my bench because he has not panned out. So I.

[Jason Moore]

That stinks. I'm sorry to hear that, Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

I was tweeting last night and Power go on Twitter wrote as a reply. I think I was talking about how bad golf was playing and his reply was just, thank the Lord I have Amari Cooper. And I thought to myself, who in their right mind thought that that would be a statement that someone was going to say eight weeks ago, thank goodness Amari Cooper saved me in my playoff matchup. But this is the NFL juju Julio. Big games from juju. Smith Schuster and Julio Jones.

[Jason Moore]

Julio Touchdown Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, thank you very much. 1400 yards for five consecutive seasons now for Julio, two touchdowns on 11 targets. It was going to even out, so.

[Jason Moore]

I was not sure. I mean he's the one guy was. He had a long enough history but man, since he started scoring touchdowns, he just does not want to stop. If you take a look at that little, you know, what is it? Six game stretch. He's on a 16 game pace of 13 touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Ty Hilton nine for 199 on 12 targets.

[Jason Moore]

He must be pretty disappointed.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they didn't hit 200 or they.

[Jason Moore]

Didn'T score that he didn't hit 200.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would be happy with the 199.

[Jason Moore]

I wouldn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Dallas, New York on the schedule for Hilton. You love seeing that Luck is having a great season. Averaging 8.5 targets, 95 yards and 0.7 TDs against Houston. Historically he just played great and he saved a lot of people who had disappointing weeks from other players. Kenny Stills, eight for 135 and one with Ryan Tannehill on nine targets, one very important lateral, one extremely well executed lateral.

[Jason Moore]

I had Kenny Stills on my bench in Dynasty. I was very dis.

[Andy Holloway]

I bet you play him next week and he stinks. That's kind of his category.

[Jason Moore]

I think I'll play him in Minnesota.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jason Moore]

With a hurt. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So he'll do well, though. Just let me know if you're benching him or not.

[Jason Moore]

Let me know if. What's his name, Matt Moore is the quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, 8 for 135.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think he's on the roster, but if he. If they sign him.

[Andy Holloway]

Big plays from Jarvis Landry. Three for 57 and one through the air, two for 54 and one on the ground goes into Denver next week. How confident would you be in riding this wave that Jarvis Landry has?

[Jason Moore]

I'd be pretty confident. Denver's bad at all phases of football and, well.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, their defense has been playing very well lately. I was a little bit strong.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no. Hold on. I apologize to Denver. I. My brain did a Jason Moore thing, and the Denver Cincinnati switcheroo happened.

[Andy Holloway]

In your brain?

[Jason Moore]

In my brain.

[Andy Holloway]

Because they're real close to each other.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, geographically, they're close in color, and that's genuinely what did it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, like the teams, they're orange.

[Jason Moore]

They're both orange. So. Sorry, but I corrected my mistake. No, I would still. I would still ride the wave. I mean, the last two games, Landry has been great. Baker. We talked about him. We talked about him the last month. Every single week. He just looks like he should have been the number one pick that he was, and he's fantastic. So could Jarvis disappoint? Could he disappear? Yeah, because if they scheme him out. But the thing is, is he only.

[Andy Holloway]

Had three catches this week. They just worked him into the running game and it worked. Yeah, I think he's a bit fool's gold this week. People were talking about dropping Jarvis two weeks ago.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, they were. I don't see the fool's gold.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Julian Adelman, 9 for 86 and 1 on 12 targets. Every play looked the exact same, but one of them went into the end zone.

[Jason Moore]

Every other play, it was Gronk and Julian. It was like the Patriots of old.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And then tyree kill was 8 for 139 on a bad heel.

[Jason Moore]

Still faster than all the defensive players with half a foot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So hopefully he uses the half a foot and plays on Thursday. It doesn't make me want to cry.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no. Get healthy, Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you realize my two league of record wide receivers are Odell Beckham Jr. And Tyree Kill. Yeah, was feeling real good about.

[Jason Moore]

I bet you're happy with the buy. Actually you didn't even need that. You, you had Odell Beckham in your lineup because you were on by. It didn't matter.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And in a league where you try to score more than 100, you had 167 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You have not had your kicker yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Kittle's. Kittle's pretty good.

[Jason Moore]

That helps.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of Kittle, stud muffins at the tight end position. 7 for 2, 10 and 1 on 9 targets. Shame on you, Kyle. Santa had you couldn't get him one catch for five yards in the entire second half to get him the all time record at the position. Do you realize how bad that is? Really bad. And I watched the postgame press conference with Kyle Shanahan and he gave a game ball to George Kittle and he's like 210. Right? Right. I think 215 is the record. No good game. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Is that true?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. He's like, it's probably on me. He goes, it's probably on me. He didn't care.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

But neither did fantasy owner. 7 for 2, 10 and 1.

[Jason Moore]

I love this, this accuracy level on Madden. Did you know, do you know what Madden's catch after the catch ability is for George Kittle? Yeah, it's 99. I don't know. It's a note. I hope it's the truth.

[Andy Holloway]

He has a very cool ability to change direction without losing his speed in open space. If you notice that his hips are on like this little road. He's got hips that don't lie Brooks is what I'm saying.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Shakira is so proud of her son, George Kittle. Yeah, grown. What do you do with him next year with Hinton? With him next year. George Kittle, you're getting your quarterback back.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you have great confidence in George Kittle next year because of Kyle Shanahan and the offense.

[Jason Moore]

See the tight end four behind who? Ertz, Kelsey, Ertz, Kelsey and Gronk.

[Andy Holloway]

He's ahead of Gronk.

[Jason Moore]

Interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's ahead of Gronk next year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that makes sense. No injury risk or. I can't say that with either guy. But less injury risk at the age than, than Gronk.

[Andy Holloway]

Kittle is, is really, really good. And Brett, this breakout season instills, you know, confidence in the office to feature him. He needs to be featured regularly and he does. He has these big plays all the time.

[Jason Moore]

Gronk was back though, 8 for 107 and a touchdown. This is what everybody's been waiting for. All the Gronk owners are crying because they're not in the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. I was going to say the first.

[Jason Moore]

Week of the playoffs they go, that's what I drafted you.

[Andy Holloway]

I know.

[Jason Moore]

Now let me ask you this genuine question.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

We both watched the game, we saw Gronk on every other play. Have you? Because my opinion was like, man, I don't know if I've ever seen a worse looking 107 yard every play. To me Gronk looks like an old man. He looks between prime Gronk and modern day Antonio Gates. He's like right smack dab in the middle of me.

[Andy Holloway]

He is. I saw a stat he's not. He had six touchdowns outside the numbers. Right. Those extended longer routes last year. He only has six catches outside the numbers this year. Obviously got into the end zone. Obviously. He's humongous. He will never lose being humongous. Antonio Gates has made that his main feature for three.

[Jason Moore]

He's even grown into that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's really grown into that role. But Gronkowski is not the same player this year. No, he does say that. He, you know, he expects more out of himself. Huge, huge game next week against Pittsburgh. Huge. So I look you, if you have him, you've been playing him, if you survived, made it into the playoffs, he delivered for you and you're probably moving on. Travis Kelsey, Jared Cook, Eric Ebron. Eric Ebron. By the way, shout out franchise record in touchdowns in Indianapolis.

[Jason Moore]

Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Cameron Bray, two for 12 and two.

[Jason Moore]

This is the most Cameron Brait box score of all time. And we were talking this last week, it's like, are you going to be happy with him? You know, he'll, he'll cap out at like 30 yards but he's got a good chance to score. He did that exactly two for 12 with two touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Did you play Derek Carrier, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

Ah, just missed out on that.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you? Yeah. Team defenses that showed up, the Giants, the Bears, the Lions.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my.

[Andy Holloway]

You, you can start and I'll tell you now, it's Monday, I'm a preview it. You can play the Atlanta defense next week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they're not good.

[Andy Holloway]

Atlanta is a terrible defense.

[Jason Moore]

That's right, play.

[Andy Holloway]

And you should play them because they play at home against Arizona and Trent Sherfield. I'm leaving that there because I don't think you know what position he plays. And I'm not talking to you, Jason. I'm Talking to the general public.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

He could be anything.

[Jason Moore]

Trent Sherfield plays the tight receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

The tight receiver or the tight back.

[Jason Moore]

He's the wide end.

[Andy Holloway]

The white end. Yeah. The Cardinals offense is awful. Josh Rosen, not good.

[Jason Moore]

Rising stars of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, I don't want to take any Josh Rosen. Victory laps. Right. I wrote a song about him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you did. It was very popular on Twitter. It was not kind to him. When he was drafted, you were sad.

[Andy Holloway]

And as a Cardinal fan, once he was drafted and I wrote the song disparaging him, I had to lean in and say I had. I mean, I had to buy in. I had to say, look, this has to be the future of the Arizona Cardinals, and I hope it's the past.

[Jason Moore]

Now, I'll tell you what, man, I. I was ecstatic when he was drafted. I will not, you know, I will not forget my joy. He was my number two quarterback coming into the draft. Prior to the NFL draft, I believed that he had enough to get it done in the NFL. He could.

[Andy Holloway]

He could.

[Jason Moore]

Certainly does not look like he has it. I mean, he. What he's shown on the field has been atrocious. But that was true of Jared Goff. That was true of Mitchell Trubisky. So I'm just hoping we can find.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Tony Romo is rumored to be their next head coach. That's right.

[Jason Moore]

And I think Tony Romo can do some good things with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Tony Romo. Tony Romo is freaking out with that. No, look, pass by.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because he's been an NFL quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

I know.

[Jason Moore]

He goes, that's impossible. I was talking about this in the studio. Like, I think other quarterbacks watch Pat Mahomes and they are just kind of sad that they don't get to do some of the things he gets to do. Like, that would be so much fun if I could do that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You can't. No.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a cheat code. Rising stars for this week, Jason, you and I have both selected a rising star brought to you by fantasy champs. I'm going to go with the occasionally accurate, turnover prone, unstoppable Josh Allen.

[Jason Moore]

I don't. I don't hate it.

[Andy Holloway]

He has. Listen to these Numbers. The last three games on the ground for Josh Allen. 13 for 99 and a touchdown. 9 for 135 and a touchdown. 9 for 101 and a touchdown. He is running for 100 yards a game as a quarterback. He is the QB 10 this week with no touchdown passes, two interceptions and one fumble as Detroit New England. The next two weeks. And the thing is, can you not.

[Jason Moore]

Agree with me that scoring is broken for fantasy quarterbacks? People listen to what he just said. He has no passing touchdowns. How many passing yards?

[Andy Holloway]

I think he had like, I don't know, sub 100 or something.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Like maybe around 100 passing yards. No passing touchdowns. Two. Two interceptions and a fumble. He's top 10 quarterback because he rushes the ball like a running.

[Andy Holloway]

He had 206 passing yards.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, wow. It's so career high or what?

[Andy Holloway]

Here's where I'll. I could go both directions here because I can completely agree with you that that's just kind of silly. Otherwise it wouldn't be a talking point. Right, Right. But they are winning because of him.

[Jason Moore]

They lost the game.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. Sure, that's true. I mean, they look, they have been very competitive because of him.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he's. He's fine and. But you're right, you have to adjust your thinking about rushing quarterbacks for fantasy. His last three weeks, Right. The last three weeks he's been exactly what you described somewhat, mostly not accurate. Turnover prone quarterback who has been the quarterback for the quarterback two and the quarterback 10 the last three weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And every time you choose, I mean it's, it is, it's a little busted for the quarterback, obviously, but every time he chooses to run the football, he's obviously choosing not to pass the football. I mean, and you're not saying not to compensate the running. It's just what he's doing right now is pretty impressive. Detroit, next week, I think you can play Josh Allen.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, coming into the last game, he had more rushing yards in back to back games than any quarterback since like the 1930s or something. I'm butchering that, but it was crazy. I would assume Cam had a bigger back to back rushing game, but no, Josh Allen is rushing the ball. I mean, we're talking 100 yards a game right now. That's, that's just impossible to keep up though, right, Jason? Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no part of you that just thinks it makes it fantasy, more fun. The rushing quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

No, I do like broken. I will admit, I will say this. There's a part of me that likes exploits in things. I like cheat codes in video games. I like loopholes in any situation. Any situation. And so yeah, there's part of me that goes, I like this because if my opponents don't realize the fruit of a rushing quarterback, I can, I can take advantage of it.

[Andy Holloway]

But it makes more quarterbacks relevant. You have to admit that if that if that scoring structure wasn't there, you'd have far fewer quarterbacks that are relevant.

[Jason Moore]

But that makes it less fun to have less relevant to have as many relevant as there are.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I don't.

[Jason Moore]

I would rather there be 15 relevant quarterbacks because it's not like tight ends where you're talking about.

[Andy Holloway]

You agree with that, Brooks? No way. I like it just how it is.

[Jason Moore]

All right, well, I'm going to go with tight ends who have like three good, maybe four good tight end options. You are struggling. If you're out there rolling out your Trey Burton. Trey Burton is the first name that came to mind. I mean, and you're going, what can, what can I do? Who can I start? Look, Ian Thomas did what we have wanted to happen. When Greg Olson went out, we talked about how. When Greg Olson went out the first time, it was crickets. Ian Thomas, he's this great athletic backup. He did not get involved, but he had double digit targets, 11 targets, nine receptions for 77 yards. That is a baseline that is so much higher than we would have ever hoped for. We're putting Ian Thomas in there thinking maybe you get a touchdown. Now this week they're going and playing against New Orleans. I mean, a matchup against the Saints. If you're struggling and you don't have a tight end to play, Ian Thomas is going to be on the radar for a streaming candidate. And then the week after that, Atlanta. I mean, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, I. If you want to play in Thomas over Trey Burton, I actually think I get it. You should do that. I just want fantasy owners to know there are four or five of these guys that drop in and out every single week of that top 12. I mean, Ryan Griffin this week scored more points than Ian Thomas.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Derek Carrier scored more than Ian Thomas. So it's.

[Jason Moore]

But there's actually a reason. There's a reason for Ian Thomas, the others. Why did Ryan Griffin have a good game?

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody knows.

[Jason Moore]

Why did. Why did Derek Carrier have a good game?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not disagreeing that you can play him. I was just saying the reason why.

[Jason Moore]

Ian Thomas had a good game is because he became the starting.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but he became the starting tight end for the first four games of the year to 2 for 10, 3 for 20, 3 for 38.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, so it's just. I'm not saying don't do it.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm just saying if he's one of the. Of the six that drops out of the top 12 every week, I wouldn't be surprised. That's all, yeah, sure, that's fine, but you can't argue 11 targets. Look, we said this on the show on Thursday, Friday it was. If you're at that part of the tight end depth chart, so to speak, just go with snaps. Just go with the snaps. That's fine.

[Jason Moore]

I would go with routes, but yeah, similar thing because snaps for a tight end, if they're blocking, they can have 100% of snaps and still not be fantasy relevant. But yeah, go pooped in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, there were some. There were some big boy pants filled up.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, there's always poopers, but their pants aren't always quite as large, right?

[Andy Holloway]

No, these were all extra large and they're overflowing. Overfilled. Yeah, we're talking about poop, people. Jared Goff, 20 for 44. Four picks. Mitch Trubisky last night, both of those guys combined for one touchdown and seven interceptions.

[Jason Moore]

Nathan Peterman, quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Scoring is broken. Interceptions should count for points.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I do believe that if it's a pick six, I mean, you should get some credit, right? You threw a touchdown last night was.

[Andy Holloway]

More of a six picks.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

It was not a pick six.

[Jason Moore]

This is a seven pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Cam Newton, though, that was two subpar games in a row. New Orleans next week. You don't know what life is left in this team with the disintegration of their playoff hopes. 26 for 42. You don't know if the shoulders affecting something. He's not running the ball as much. I think it's a pivot time for Cam Newton. You can't lock yourself in. This is the one thing I'll say for fantasy owners. We. You listen to us every day and we tell you, get ready for the playoffs. Six weeks ago, you know, I example I stashed Denver, their defense, they lost this week. They're probably out of the playoffs. They have to play at home against Baker Mayfield.

[Jason Moore]

They lost Chris Harris Jr.

[Andy Holloway]

They lost Chris Harris Jr. I'm probably still playing them this week.

[Jason Moore]

But you're willing to pivot.

[Andy Holloway]

But I'm willing to pivot because you can't lock in. You can't be like, Cam Newton's my playoff quarterback no matter what. If Josh Allen is there, I was.

[Jason Moore]

Told a month and a half ago he was going to be good.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play Josh Allen or Cam Newton this upcoming week, which seems incredible. At home against New Orleans, Man.

[Jason Moore]

At home against New Orleans. Who's Josh Allen. Allen playing this week? I mean, it doesn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Detroit at home in Buffalo.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Where are you going to run the ball? I just. Look, you probably play Cam Newton, right? Brooks, you play Cam Newton?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I play Cam Newton, but I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Not going to be surprised if he lets you down.

[Jason Moore]

No, see, here's the crazy thing is, like, who do you play? Cam Newton. Who finishes better? That's the tougher question. Which, of course, who do you play and who finishes? I mean, they should be.

[Andy Holloway]

You would think they'd be aligned.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but they're not.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to give a small scolding to Philip Rivers and Drew Brees. People expected more in these matchups, Cincinnati and Tampa Bay. Rivers, who always throws for two touchdowns, through for one touchdown, is a bum Thursday night against Kansas City. And then Drew Brees against Tampa. One touchdown. He did run one in, just to be nice.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that saved people.

[Andy Holloway]

Running back Duds Gurley for net. Peterson, James White. Sony Michelle got Devlin again. Brutal.

[Jason Moore]

So good.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh Adams stung. Tevin Coleman continues to stink. Gus Edwards got outscored by Kenneth Dixon, who scored and looked pretty good.

[Jason Moore]

Kenneth Dixon is very. I mean, Gus Edwards wasn't horrifically bad. He had 16 carries, which he looked for 67 yards, which you do need more than just a finish the line of that. But he, you know, he wasn't the worst. But. Yeah, the issue is Kenneth Dixon. When they got around the goal line, it was Kenneth Dixon, and at the end of the game, it was Kenneth Dixon.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to. I'm just going to speak to the pump. The brakes was on the Patriots this week because of the fact that you didn't know what you get from Michelle or White or Gordon or, you know, Edelman. If you. If you picked right. If you had Edelman or Gronk, you were great. If you had White, Michelle, Gordon, you weren't Devlin.

[Jason Moore]

Again, just too hard to know. There's. There's too many pieces now, I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

This is episode 666. Yes. I don't even know what. What I'm supposed to play on here. Is there an evil sound for.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think we want to draw attention.

[Andy Holloway]

No. I mean, it does seem like a place where King, King, King Godfrey would show up on episode six. Six.

[Jason Moore]

Let me ask you this. Do you think that these players had bad weeks because they knew that pooped in their big boy pants was on episode 666? And they're like, I feel like James.

[Andy Holloway]

Devlin had a good game because of that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, deal with the Devlin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, deal with the Devlin.

[Jason Moore]

Justin Jackson, super disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It was not. That was just.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's talk about more disappointments. Antonio Brown, Kenny Golladay, Corey Davis, Cortland Sutton.

[Jason Moore]

I think Antonio Brown is the one guy that probably cost people the playoffs the most because he's been really good, very consistent. He. The point is, is like there's a lot of players that are that pooped in their big boy pants that they might not have been in the playoffs or on the roster outside of quarterback now, Chris Godwin.

[Andy Holloway]

Chris Godwin, we expected a huge week from.

[Jason Moore]

He's huge. He's been averaging 80.

[Andy Holloway]

What if I told you. Oh, go ahead.

[Jason Moore]

Anytime. Desean Jackson has been out of the lineup, he's averaged over 100 receiving yards and three quarters of a touchdown and he was not there.

[Andy Holloway]

What if I told you he had 10 targets, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

I would say, well, that's what he should have.

[Andy Holloway]

That's great. That's a lot of targets.

[Jason Moore]

That's a lot of targets. With his great hands, I'll Bet he.

[Andy Holloway]

Was 8, 4, 74 in a touchdown. Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And maybe a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

One for 10.

[Jason Moore]

But how many targets to get to the. One for 10?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. 10 targets, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

So he was eight for.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

I'm confused.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, listen. Nine of his ten targets, get this. Nine uncatchable, uncatchable targets.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. Those shouldn't count as targets. Like legitimately uncatchable targets should not count as a target for the wide receiver. There should be like a fourth slash and then be like, oh yeah, he had four, you know, he had two catchable targets, nine uncatchable targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, because those targets mean that his catch rate was 10%. Jason, 10% is not good.

[Jason Moore]

But his catch rate was actually 100%. If nine of the 10 were uncatchable.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, all the ones he didn't catch, he couldn't catch because they weren't catchable.

[Jason Moore]

Thanks, Jamis.

[Andy Holloway]

Adam Humphreys, eight targets, just four catches. Mike Evans, four catches and 86 yards. They have Baltimore next week. That's a problem. That is no bueno in Baltimore. I think the question fantasy owners are going to have is do you play Mike Evans next week in Baltimore? I guess you have to.

[Jason Moore]

You probably do have to play him. But I'm going to pivot hard away from everybody there.

[Andy Holloway]

Cooks, Woods, Reynolds. If you were a Ram, you were a sad man.

[Jason Moore]

It's going to be real bright days. You are back in LA next week against Philadelphia's banged up secondary. I think it's a get right. Jared Goff, Woods, Cooks, they're all going to. They're all going to have great games next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Anthony Miller. Anthony Miller. Nothing on one target. Taylor Gabriel, three catches. Alan Robinson, five for 42.

[Jason Moore]

Look, every wide receiver in that Sunday night football game was terrible because every quarterback in that money in that Sunday night football game was terrible. I mean, Mitchell Trubisky, the amount of just errant misses everywhere. I mean, his two interceptions were. He. He had the wide receiver, he had him open. It was a great easy read and the easy throw. Except he overthrew him by 4 yards and went right into the opponent's belly.

[Andy Holloway]

Philadelphia, their offense is broken right now. Golden Tate, 1 for 7. 20 of 52 snaps. You can't have confidence in that. Zach Ertz, just 5 for 38 on eight targets. Dallas's defense is really good, but Philly's offense is really bad. So those two things met and what.

[Jason Moore]

What do you do with. So Carson Wentz actually was okay, right? Didn't he? I think he threw three touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

It ended up there, I believe.

[Jason Moore]

So he started the game just horrific. So sometimes you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, you're right. 228 and three.

[Jason Moore]

228 and three. So he was okay against a very difficult Dallas defense. In Dallas next week he goes to play the Los Angeles Rams. I was just talking about that in la. High score. I'm sure Vegas will have this. What do you do?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. I don't like him. I don't like him in la.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

A key to leave is back. Defensive line is making plays and their offense has been broken. There's something dysfunctional about the Philadelphia offense. I don't know if it starts up front. I don't know if it starts with the lack of consistency at the running back position. They don't look the same. And I'm not, I'm not going to get on that. It's week 15. I'm not going to get on the, oh, they're getting it right this week train. If I don't have Zach Ertz, I don't have confidence elsewhere.

[Jason Moore]

What's crazy is I've seen some stuff about the difference in play calling for Doug Peterson between last year, the super bowl run, how great they were and this season.

[Andy Holloway]

Conservative or what is it?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, both conservative and also like the. The choice selection at certain down and distances between run and pass and the efficiency of both. Last year he was like one of the best at doing it the most efficient way and this year he's basically one of the worst. I mean, some of it's just the.

[Andy Holloway]

Players it's one of the things I love about the NFL, though, is that it is a very fine line between good and bad in the NFL. Doesn't matter how set up a team can be, they can surprise you. It's not like the NBA, where the bad teams stay bad forever and the good teams are good forever. Zach Ertz, Jimmy Graham, Vance McDonald, David and Joku, Trey Burton, CJ Usama, Chris Herndon, Matt Lacoste, the poopers at the tight end position. Ertz was the big one. That hurt. Jimmy Graham wouldn't you know, can't catch as well with a broken thumb.

[Jason Moore]

No, it was very difficult for him to have his thumb not broken in this last game. Yeah, he's broken the entire game. And whenever he had a pass and he went to catch it, it was broken. He had a broken thumb.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Or finger. I don't know which finger. I don't want to put bad juju on his thumb if his thumb is fine, but he certainly had a broken digit.

[Andy Holloway]

You giving up on Trey Burton now?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

I gave up on Trey Burton a long time ago. I can't. What is dead may never die. No. It would be impossible for me to give up what is what I.

[Andy Holloway]

Home against Green Bay next week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I'm not saying that Trey Burton is someone you can't play, but I've given up the hope.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Like, I'm not expectations. Expectations are gone. There's only guesswork and darts.

[Andy Holloway]

You're more of an Ian Thomas guy. You're more of an Ian.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I guess I am.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I guess I am.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right. For Jason Moore, Jay, Grizz Brooks and myself, we say farewell. Enjoy the Monday Night Football game. We'll talk waivers tomorrow. Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

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