Week 15 Matchups, In-or-Out, #BenchEmAll

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary
Episode: Week 15 Matchups, In-or-Out, #BenchEmAll
Release Date: December 14, 2018

---

Introduction

In this high-energy episode of Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway and Jason Moore dive deep into Week 15's fantasy football landscape. With fantasy playoffs heating up, the duo provides invaluable insights on matchups, player statuses, and strategic lineup decisions to help listeners gain the upper hand in their leagues.

---

Key Matchups & Fantasy Advice

1. Green Bay Packers vs. Chicago Bears

• Overview: The Packers (5-7-1) face the Bears (9-4) in a pivotal game that could influence fantasy playoff outcomes.
• Quarterback Duel: Andy expresses discontent with defensive pressures, stating, "I really hate defense... every time Joey Bosa pressured the quarterback... I wasn't happy." (01:27)
• Player Insights:
  • Aaron Rodgers: Currently struggling with his performance, Andy mentions, "Patrick Mahomes, second worst game of his season, fantasy wise…" (04:03)
  • Mitch Trubisky vs. Aaron Rodgers: Jason favors Trubisky in this matchup, highlighting the home advantage against a formidable Bears defense.
  • Devonte Adams: Andy assures listeners, “The must start on Green Bay is always Devonte Adams... a touchdown in three straight games against Chicago.” (22:57)

2. Oakland Raiders vs. Cincinnati Bengals

• Overview: The Raiders (3-10) take on the Bengals (5-8) in a game ripe with low-owned players offering high upside.
• Fantasy Gems:
  • Joe Mixon: Marked as a must-start, Jason states, "Joe Mixon is a must start."
  • CJ Uzama: Andy and Jason discuss his inconsistent performance, likening selecting him to visiting the dentist—“you have to do it” (28:49).
• Strategic Advice: The hosts emphasize targeting players from teams with struggling defenses to find undervalued assets.

3. Washington Redskins vs. Jacksonville Jaguars

• Overview: The Redskins (6-7) host the Jaguars (9-2) in a matchup featuring key injury concerns.
• Player Updates:
  • Leonard Fournette: Jason advocates for starting Fournette, noting his significant role despite recent performances.
  • Sony Michel vs. Derek Henry: A debate ensues on which running back to prioritize, with Jason leaning towards Derek Henry despite mixed performances.
• Strategic Picks: Emphasis on starting reliable SIG players like Devin Funches and Christian McCaffrey for optimal points (56:48).

4. Miami Dolphins vs. Minnesota Vikings

• Overview: The Dolphins (7-6) take on the Vikings (6-1) in what Andy predicts will be a game where the Dolphins might cover the spread.
• Quarterback Concerns:
  • Kirk Cousins vs. Lamar Jackson: Jason expresses trust in Kirk Cousins, stating, "I’m dealing with this. Does that mean you’re starting Robbie Anderson…"
• Running Backs:
  • Christian McCaffrey: Despite concerns about New Orleans' defense, McCaffrey remains a top pick, with Andy noting, “He’s a wide receiver and a running back.” (58:11)

5. New England Patriots vs. Pittsburgh Steelers

• Overview: The Patriots (9-4) face the Steelers (7-5-1) in a critical game with playoff implications.
• Player Highlights:
  • Julian Edelman & Rob Gronkowski: Jason praises their reliability, asserting, “He’s just been too good this season.”
  • James White vs. Sony Michel: A discussion on the fluctuating snap counts and reliable returns, with Sony Michel being a favored start.

6. New Orleans Saints vs. Carolina Panthers

• Overview: The Saints (11-2) clash with the Panthers (6-7) in a game spotlighting Cam Newton's performance.
• Player Strategies:
  • Cam Newton: Jason is cautious but willing to start him, highlighting his dual-threat capability.
  • DeAndre Hopkins vs. DJ Moore: A battle of receivers with Jason opting for Hopkins based on consistent performance.

---

Injury Reports

• Carson Wentz: Andy and Jason confirm Wentz is out for the rest of the season due to a stress fracture.
• Keenan Allen: Jason laments Allen's injury, especially after Allen's near-perfect performances, emphasizing the emotional toll on fantasy owners.
• David Johnson: Limited practice activity raises concerns. Jason anticipates a reduced role, suggesting Chase Edmonds as an alternative.
• Odell Beckham Jr.: Status remains uncertain with potential for game-time decisions. Andy plans to monitor closely and consider alternatives like Mohammed Sanu or Robbie Anderson if Beckham sits.

---

Special Announcements

Farewell to Baby Josh

• Details: Andy and Jason bid farewell to Baby Josh, an intern from Bowling Green, appreciating his contributions throughout the semester.
• Connection: Baby Josh, known as “Salvation's Elite” on YouTube, is recognized for his gaming prowess, particularly in Call of Duty.

---

Draft Strategies: Daily Dose

Host Draft Picks:

• Andy Holloway:

  • Running Backs: Ezekiel Elliott and Saquon Barkley
  • Wide Receivers: Juju Smith Schuster and DeAndre Hopkins
  • Quarterback: Big Ben Roethlisberger

• Jason Moore:

  • Wide Receivers: Antonio Brown and Michael Thomas
  • Running Backs: Todd Gurley and Christian McCaffrey
  • Quarterback: Drew Brees

Strategy Insights:

• Andy: Focuses on pairing strong running backs with reliable wide receivers, emphasizing depth and consistency.
• Jason: Prioritizes high-performance receivers and versatile quarterbacks, leveraging stacked lineups for maximum points.

---

Promotions & Community Engagement

While adhering to the user’s request to exclude advertisements in the summary, it's noteworthy that the podcast includes brief mentions of sponsors like Omaha Steaks, Bombfell, and Pristine Auction. These segments offer listeners exclusive deals and encourage community participation. However, they have been omitted from this summary to maintain focus on the core content.

---

Conclusion

This episode of Fantasy Footballers Podcast serves as an essential guide for fantasy managers entering the crucial Week 15 matchups. Through in-depth analyses, strategic advice, and up-to-date injury reports, hosts Andy Holloway and Jason Moore equip listeners with the tools needed to navigate the playoffs successfully. Their camaraderie and expert insights make this episode both informative and entertaining, ensuring fantasy owners are well-prepared to clinch their league titles.

---

Notable Quotes

• Andy Holloway on Defense Frustration:
  “I really hate defense... every time Joey Bosa pressured the quarterback... I wasn't happy.” (01:27)

• Jason Moore on Tyreek Hill and Fantasy Feelings:
  “We have different moods this morning based on last night.” (03:13)

• Andy Holloway on Printing Projections:
  “But the game wouldn't be fun if you could just take projections and print them out.” (04:03)

• Jason Moore on Damian Williams:
  “I think what I said yesterday is 100% exactly what I believe, which is he's a top 12 player when he is the guy, but he's not a talented player.” (09:37)

• Andy Holloway on Draft Strategy:
  “But I can't not draft anybody at any position there, Jason.” (61:41)

---

Timestamps

• 01:27: Andy Holloway discusses his frustration with NFL defenses.
• 03:13: Jason Moore reflects on the emotional impact of last night's game.
• 04:03: Andy Holloway emphasizes the unpredictability of fantasy football.
• 09:37: Jason Moore analyzes Damian Williams' performance.
• 61:41: Andy Holloway debates draft strategy with Jason Moore.

---

For more detailed insights and live updates, listeners are encouraged to follow the Fantasy Footballers on their social media platforms and join their fantasy community at JoinTheFoot.com.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Foot clan. Omaha Steaks gourmet holiday gifts make life a whole lot easier and more delicious. Omaha Steaks has a great limited time offer. Get 28 favorites that are guaranteed to thrill for only 49.99. That is a $195 value. Go to Omaha Steaks dot com, type fantasy in the search bar and add the family gift package to your cart that is Omaha steaks.com and use the code fantasy. Don't wait. Order today.

[Jason Moore]

Foreignasy footballers Podcast coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like we just got off the first go round of a roller coaster and I'm saying let's do it again. I'm staying on.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome into the Fantasy footballers podcast. I'm Andy Holloway, joined by Jason Moore and Jay Grizz. Mike will return very soon. He'll be back, actually, for the Sunday morning livestream. Brooks is here and we got a great show. We had an incredible game last night. I learned something. I learned something about myself.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, this is great news. I discovered something we always want to keep learning about ourselves.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, introspection is a key, right? You know, it's the only way to improve. I learned that as a fantasy owner. I really hate defense. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. I don't like defensive lines that are able to get to the quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

So you mean the actual NFL defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't like defense.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Because every time that the defense did something, I was mad. Last night.

[Jason Moore]

That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

Every time Joey Bosa pressured the quarter, every time Chris Jones swallowed up his offensive lineman and then sacked Philip Rivers, I wasn't happy. I wasn't like, yeah, defense, well, those.

[Jason Moore]

Those fans playing against Philip Rivers, I'm sure were very happy every time that happened.

[Andy Holloway]

Totally understand that. Yeah, man. That I also hate injuries.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I learned that as well. Worse. I mean, it wasn't like it was.

[Andy Holloway]

The fantasy playoffs or anything.

[Jason Moore]

No. The Keenan Allen injury on what was almost a great touchdown. I mean, inches away, just all timer. That was a fantastic catch. Just slightly out of bounds and then he's out of the game. That stinks. I mean, I had Keenan Allen as the number two wide receiver on the week, and judging by what Mike Williams did in his stead, man, Keenan Allen owners have to be so sad. But here's what I learned. Here's what I learned from last night. Fantasy football is outstanding. It is unbelievable. I mean, when you're, when you're in the playoffs. And now this has nothing to do with the fact that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You simply felt this because Tyree Kill didn't score against you.

[Jason Moore]

That's the only reason you felt Tyreek. We have different moods this morning based on last night.

[Andy Holloway]

You mean against Hyreek? Hill's worst game of the entire fantasy season. In my playoff matchup. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Against me in my playoff matchup. Yeah. But. But that's the point. It's so incredible that this Thursday night game, which was just by NFL standards, an awesome game, fantastic finish. But like, once you're in the fantasy playoffs, every single play of the game from the first quarter on is exciting. We're chatting on our slack message, you know, just talking every single plate. The amount of times I wrote, no, Hill, never. Hill is.

[Andy Holloway]

And I wrote the opposite.

[Jason Moore]

Right. But it's just. It's so fun. It. The highs, the lows, the entertainment people.

[Andy Holloway]

Get frustrated that they can't just take projections and print them out. But the game wouldn't be fun if you could do that.

[Jason Moore]

No, it'd be fun.

[Andy Holloway]

The fact that there is the unexpected, the fact that there is the unknown. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, second worst game of his season, fantasy wise, incredible game by the Chargers, in actuality coming back, winning that game. Now, what does it mean? It means that the Chiefs have to win out to continue to keep what they got. But if you could just print the results out, one, you wouldn't. Twitter wouldn't need to exist anymore. No, I mean, the whole purpose of Twitter is to complain about fantasy football.

[Jason Moore]

Right. Only trolling.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And then, you know, you wouldn't have a shot.

[Jason Moore]

Right?

[Andy Holloway]

You playing against a better team, you wouldn't have a chance.

[Jason Moore]

No, you lose. And here's the cool thing. For a lot of fantasy players out there, the Pat Mahomes, Tyree Kill stack, they're. They're in all the playoffs. Like, if you have one in your league, if somebody had that stack, they're in the playoffs. And Andy, I know this is sad news because you have that stack, but.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

But now they. Those are the teams that looked unbeatable and now everyone has a shot. But the cool thing is they didn't. It's not like they imploded to the point where the, The.

[Andy Holloway]

This wasn't Jared Goff related. Right. Look, you can survive that. It just was. It sounds greedy, to be honest with you. You got an entire season's worth of glory from Pat Mahomes and Tyree Kill to say you're disappointed with mediocre performances Sounds greedy, but in the playoffs, you'd like them. That's all. I have some other news.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, this Friday, which is, you know, December 14th, right here, right now, it's today. This is the final. The final day for baby Josh. Baby Josh goes home. Tears to his parents, tears of joy to his nursery. And baby Josh, we appreciate the time you spent here with us. Baby Josh, an intern from Bowling Green, and I want to give him a shout out because he's had a great semester with us. Yes, he has contributed in many ways. And he has his own YouTube channel.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes, he does. And plays.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a Call of Duty guy.

[Jason Moore]

He's a very good gamer.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Call of Duty. He's a Call of Duty referee. If you want to find baby Josh and get, you know, give him a baby follow on YouTube, you can find a follow. He's Salvations Elite on YouTube.

[Jason Moore]

Salvations plural. Elite. Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Salvation's elite. And if you're into Call of Duty and stuff like that, you can check out his channel. He goes back home today. So thank you for the great semester there. Baby Josh, he's putting his hands up, set the binky down and said thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Speaking of people in this studio, you know what I realized? I was talking to Brooks earlier this morning, and it dawned on me, Sorry, J. Griz, you're not involved as much in this one, but we are set up as a show. So we've got our two main leagues, right? Our league of record and our main Dynasty league and the listener league. And yes, we've got three main leagues, but those two, you know, are the ones we always talk about the most. You and Mike are on opposite sides of the bracket, and if you win this week, you're in the championship game against each other next week. Brooks and myself are in the opposite bracket of Dynasty, so it's entirely possible that next week we have all four of us facing head to head to head to head in those two leagues for the championship. That's fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Which means the week after that, half the amount of people will show up to work and the other half will be in mourning. There's an official fantasy week of morning that takes place. All right, we should. We should move it along. It is Friday, and, well.

[Jason Moore]

Foot Clan Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

The only thing better than a fantasy football title is the Foot Clan.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, the Foot Clan is greater than that.

[Andy Holloway]

Today's Foot Clan Friday winner of a $55 gift card is Tyler Charlton. Thank you for supporting the [e-mail] part of our community and you have won $55 at shotballers.com congratulations.

[Jason Moore]

Hopefully they have a Foot Clan title and next week they can get the 2019. No, the 2018 hashtag Foot Clan title T shirt.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Brooks already bought his.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no, it's. It's really.

[Andy Holloway]

He made his own. He bought a white T shirt and he Sharpied it and it just says king of the world for some reason.

[Jason Moore]

You guys know I had Keenan Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

In that league, right? I do, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But we also know you're playing the worst team that's ever been assembled somehow still in the playoffs. Hey, before we move on from the matchup, I do want to point out the Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, the amount of Williams that contributed to last night's game. Tyrell. 71 yards. Mike Williams 3.

[Jason Moore]

Touchdown Daryl.

[Andy Holloway]

Darrell Williams had a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

You get a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Damian Williams touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Damian Williams, obviously if you played him, you were very happy. If you played against him, you were not happy. Had a monster game.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you want to. Now yesterday was really strange because one we heard about this on Twitter about our Damian Williams hate. Now, you have always said you didn't like him, but yet on the show yesterday you were higher than me on him. You had him in the teens. I had him in the 20s. Obviously he belongs in the single digits after a 20 plus point performance. Is he a great player now? Is he your favorite player? Are you and him.

[Jason Moore]

I think what I said yesterday is 100% exactly what I believe, which is he's a top 12 player when he is the guy, but he's not a talented player. Like I realize he moved a pile on a play that looked awesome and he got big chunk plays when he.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, come on. He looked really fast.

[Jason Moore]

He looked fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Like he was shot out of. No, he looked better than fine.

[Jason Moore]

He was.

[Andy Holloway]

He was fast, man.

[Jason Moore]

There were plays where he was wide open. There's not defender on the half of the field and he gets 30 yards. That's great. I'm not. He had a fantastic game, just like I said he would have. But I don't think Damian Williams is anything special when Spencer Ware comes back. Sorry your Damian Williams is over.

[Andy Holloway]

My concern about Williams last night was just the unpredictability of Andy Reid and the fact that could Darrell Williams, you know, he scored a touchdown too. Could there be more of a distribution to the other players? It wasn't. If you had told me guaranteed Damian Williams was going to be the guy most of the game, I would have moved him up higher.

[Jason Moore]

You said he gets 16 touches in that offense. Yeah, he should have been very high.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Gordon and where didn't play.

[Jason Moore]

Keenan Allen, the injury, Justin Jackson, you were disappointed most of the game, but once he got into the end zone, you were, you were pretty happy.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Jason, this is all you today.

[Jason Moore]

What's it going to be, McFly? Are you in or out?

[Andy Holloway]

We'll climb through these injuries. We already know Carson Wentz is.

[Jason Moore]

He's out and he is probably out the rest of the season. We'll have to see what the reports are. I've been reading on this to see if it has the potential of long term, which it could or if it's a six week recovery timeline. So we'll find out probably in the off season. But I expect him to be done for the now.

[Andy Holloway]

He is technically questionable.

[Jason Moore]

Right? He has been wonderful.

[Andy Holloway]

Doug Peterson said, quote, it was just a stress fracture.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, if they're saying it's a stress fracture, that's, that's actually bad. I'm pretty.

[Andy Holloway]

Doug Peterson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Doug Peterson wants it to be just a stress fracture. I'm gonna have to look into that. I believe that is the one of the two options that we did not want, but I will regardless.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, no surgery. Carson Wentz for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Carson Wentz is not playing the rest of the year. I'll put my name on that.

[Andy Holloway]

Really. Okay. In or out? James Conner hasn't practiced this week. Steelers offensive coordinator said he doesn't need to practice to play.

[Jason Moore]

I would be shocked if he's in. Obviously he's played a lot, doesn't need the practice. But I, I'm going to say he's out.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, let's look at David Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

David Johnson is a little bit worrisome. He's going to play, but he missed practice on Wednesday, was limited Thursday. And if you're wondering if this is like, well, it's a veteran day of rest on Wednesday. David Johnson practices in full every week. Like he, you know, you go back last week, the week before, the week before. He's never on the injury report, so he actually missed a practice. He usually plays through. So he's a little banged up in this. You know you're still going to play him, but he will probably seed a few more carries to Chase Edmonds is my.

[Andy Holloway]

That's your gut.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Isaiah Corral interact ruled out.

[Jason Moore]

He's already done. Elijah McGuire will be the starter.

[Andy Holloway]

LaShawn McCoy in or out?

[Jason Moore]

He returned to practice, but he is limited. I think he plays because he usually plays through injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Matt Burrida limited in practice.

[Jason Moore]

He's been A machine playing through injury as well. I think he'll get back out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Not a lot of people talking about Matt Burrita.

[Jason Moore]

No, because, you know, Jeff Wilson Jr. Is so tantalizing. No, Matt Burrita should be. If he's back out there. I realize it's the San Francisco 49ers, but I still think you could probably play him in a. In a flex position.

[Andy Holloway]

Carry on.

[Jason Moore]

Johnson not practicing. He's going to be out again.

[Andy Holloway]

What's the latest on Odell Beckham Jr. Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. Why don't you fill us in? You are The Odell Beckham Jr. Owner who. There's been a lot of. A lot of reports out that we're not going to find out until Sunday. Right. According to the team. And it's not right and is doing better. And.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, he said that he would probably be a game time decision. He's the early game, but I'm really hoping to find out before then. I'm gonna put in a formal request, but right now it's a struggle for me. I would love to play Robbie Anderson if I knew Beckham was going to be out. Robbie Anderson plays on the Saturday night game. I may have to pivot. I may have to go get a guy like Mohammed Sanu, somebody else to be my game time decision guy without Beckham, you don't want to lose with Beckham on your bench.

[Jason Moore]

We will know his status by the Sunday live. So tune in to Sunday Live with Mike Wright and you'll find out if he's in or out.

[Andy Holloway]

See, I. It's funny. You. We were just going through in and out, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I was starting to get very, very cold in here. And so I told Brooks because, I mean, it's cold in Arizona right now. And I told Brooks, I said, what in the world? Why is the Aeron blowing on me? I'm freezing cold.

[Jason Moore]

It's because I told him to turn.

[Andy Holloway]

And then I realized you told him to turn the air on when it's 67 in here already.

[Jason Moore]

I just need air flow, my man, because my glasses fog up. I'm a. I'm a fat dude.

[Andy Holloway]

My nipples are so hard.

[Jason Moore]

Let me see.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. All right. Julio Jones, in or out?

[Jason Moore]

Julio Jones. He left with cold flu symptoms. He's going to be fine. He'll play. But if he's, you know, under the weather and then under Patrick Peterson, you might want to look for.

[Andy Holloway]

For under Patrick Peterson.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you were talking about, you think Mohammed Sanu or Calvin Ridley, one of those two guys. Has a has a decent game.

[Andy Holloway]

I do. I do think one of those guys has a great game against Arizona.

[Jason Moore]

Ty Hilton no practice Wednesday or Thursday, but he did this last week. He will play.

[Andy Holloway]

He did this last week and had 199 receiving yards.

[Jason Moore]

Doug Baldwin didn't practice on Wednesday, limited Thursday. He usually plays through injury but didn't last week. I think against the 49ers they don't really need him and they are in the playoff hunt. So I think he sits okay.

[Andy Holloway]

What about Marquis Goodwin, Dante Pettis, both on the injury report, both added to.

[Jason Moore]

The report on Thursday. So this is one we're going to want to watch the practice report today. I've got Pettis currently in my lineup in Dynasty and I am not happy about this. So Goodwin was a calf. Dante Pettis was his foot. Yuck. Just keep monitoring. I couldn't tell you right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Quincy and Newell ruled out Josh Doxton, concussion, not practicing in or out. What do you think?

[Jason Moore]

If he's not practicing right now, he's not progressing through it and I would expect he is not cleared by game time.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Austin Hooper, Jordan Reed.

[Jason Moore]

Austin Hooper has not been practicing at all. I think he misses this game.

[Andy Holloway]

Another reason why you might like sanu, right?

[Jason Moore]

And Jordan Reed is made of glass and will not be playing because why would he. What do the Reds have to gain by putting a hurt Jordan Reed on the field?

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Foot Clan Game day alerts one hour before Main Sunday kickoff. You can get [e-mail] Sunday live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Periscope and Twitch Twitch. You can catch Mike. He'll return. He'll be back next week. And we're gonna get into the rest of the fantasy forecast. Before we do that, I want to thank a sponsor that has just joined the fold. I've got experience with them and I love them. We're talking about Bomb Fell. Do you hate shopping for clothes but still want to look good?

[Jason Moore]

That describes me perfectly.

[Andy Holloway]

See, I normally hate shopping for clothes and then look bad. Bombfell is the easier way for men to get better clothes. Every piece gets hand picked by your own stylist. So they ask you some questions and then they put together things that look good. After you receive your clothes, you get seven days to decide whether you want to keep them. That's the way it works. If you keep four plus items, you get 20% off. If you keep three plus items, 15% off, et cetera. It's completely flexible. You can pause, you can cancel any time. So you could have them send you some stuff and then you want to take a month off. I've used this. Everything I got fit perfectly. It was a great experience.

[Jason Moore]

I kept it all and I'm wearing the kicks. You were some really nice shoes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's great. So right now we've negotiated with Bombfell to get a special offer for our listeners. For $25 off your first purchase, visit bombfell.comfootballers that's b o m b f e l l.comfootballers for $25 off your first purchase bomb fell open and close.

[Jason Moore]

And again a big shout out thank you and alert about Pristine Auction because Christmas it's coming up, you're looking for the gifts. You're not going to find a better place to get gifts than Pristine Auction where you can get, I don't know, a Stefon Diggs signed Vikings Jersey TSE certified authentic signature for 87 bucks. That just went recently. David Johnson signed Cardinals helmet $94. I mean there's I was looking yesterday when we were doing the DFS show at some of the auctions that were about to finish and there were some of these things going like 35 bucks. You got to check it out. They are a great group of guys over there. You can get these things that you just can't believe the price is because it's an auction. Okay, so bid. Make a free account. It's completely free. Bid a price that you'd be willing to spend to get this unbelievable item. If you don't win the bid, you don't have to pay anything. So it's great. Check them out. Pristine Auction P R I S T I n e auction.com make a free account. When you do, make sure you tell them that you found out about them from the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Fantasy Forecast.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Don't forget there were a number of matchups on yesterday's podcast. Saturday games Set those lineups early. Make sure you follow the same rules we gave you for Thursday night for the Saturday night games.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just going to reiterate that again. Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. If if you screw up your playoffs because you didn't realize there were Saturday games, you will be so unhappy with yourself.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The five seven one packers take on the nine and four Bears. Bears are six point home favorites in a game with a 45 point over under Aaron Rodgers and company travel to Chicago. Mitch Trubisky did not look great last week in his return from injury but they got it done and ultimately that was on the back of a great, amazing, wonderful defense. How do you see this one playing out? The Bears are dominating right now on defense. The quarterback. They're third against quarterback, first against running back, ninth against tight end. What do you think is going to happen in this one?

[Jason Moore]

They just shut down the best offense in the league, statistically speaking, last week, and that was in Chicago. This game again in Chicago, the Green Bay packers are reeling. Aaron Rodgers is not playing up to his usual potential. Maybe it's because of the weapons, but it's. Whatever the reason is, it's still there. So I expect, look, you're going to be able to play Aaron Rodgers if you need to. I don't have him.

[Andy Holloway]

I have like, 17.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was going to say I don't have him As a top 10.

[Andy Holloway]

Quarterback this week, but most people want to know whether they can pivot, though, to a Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson.

[Jason Moore]

I would be willing to pivot. I mean, Lamar Jackson. If I had Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers, there's no doubt I'd play Lamar Jackson.

[Andy Holloway]

Right? Yeah, that. As would I. Now, Mitch Trubisky in the same game at home, do you have more confidence in Trubisky than Rogers?

[Jason Moore]

I do right now. And this is based on the home road and defensive matchup. The fact that you've got Trubisky at home against a beatable Green Bay defense vs. Aaron Rodgers on the road against seemingly unbeatable defense, I would put Mitchell Trubisky ahead of Aaron Rodgers.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. What kind of game are you expecting from running back Aaron Jones? Right now, he's our consensus running back. 18. He had 20 touches last week, but the Bears are only allowing 64 rushing yards per game, which is number one in the NFL at home.

[Jason Moore]

So I worry about Aaron Jones in this matchup. Not that you can't play him, but certainly what we saw to start last week was, well, it wasn't Aaron Jones, it was Jamal Williams out there. And that was the first week with Mike McCarthy gone. So I think there's got to be worry about volume. Like, it's not guaranteed that he is the lead back we saw a couple weeks ago taking 80% of the volume. Right. Would you agree with that? That it's not guaranteed?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, certainly there's some question marks with Phil been under, you know, at the head coaching position for one game and then you face the Bears. I like where we have them ranked. I feel very. I feel like you got to play him, probably. But if you're. If you're playing an opponent in your fantasy matchup that you need, boom from it's probably not coming from Aaron Jones in this game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean I've got him behind marking room, behind Tariq Cohen, behind Lamar Miller. You know, I'm not going to play Aaron Jones as a guaranteed must start this week, but he is very talented. The Chicago Bears on the season, they are the, they give up the fewest fantasy points to running backs over the last six weeks. They've been number seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. The must start on Green Bay is always devonte Adams. He's pushing for the number one spot in fantasy and has a good chance of getting it this week. With Tyreek Hill not being great yesterday, he has a touchdown in three straight games against Chicago. Playing with confidence.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he's devonte Adams and when, when push comes to shove, whenever Aaron Rodgers is up against it, he just goes to devonte Adams more.

[Jason Moore]

Is there a wide receiver in the league more guaranteed of a touchdown on a usual basis than Aaron, than devonte Adams?

[Andy Holloway]

Not generally.

[Jason Moore]

I don't, I don't think so. I think if I had to put a dollar on like okay, a dollar. If I had to put a thousand. 100,000, $10 million. Yes. I would probably pick Devonte Adams to be my favorite. Not the score touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

One dollar is not the confidence boost that you wanted from that sentence. I don't think if I had to put a dollar on someone wouldn't nickel.

[Jason Moore]

I wouldn't even care. I would choose.

[Andy Holloway]

I would pick anyone at random. I don't care about a dollar.

[Jason Moore]

Amia St. Brown for a glory play.

[Andy Holloway]

Tariq Cohen has been playing out of his mind. Double digit touches in five straight games. Questions about Tariq Cohen, Alan Robinson, Jordan Howard, Taylor, Gabriel and Trey Poo Poo.

[Jason Moore]

I just don't like Taraq the dinosaur.

[Andy Holloway]

I love him.

[Jason Moore]

I am the dinosaur that he's hunting. And Turok Cohen has hunted me down because I'm. And here's why this is purely selfish. He's an unbelievable player and I love watching him. I love everything about him on the field other than like I traded for Jordan Howard and I like so this is fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Just pure, unadulterated by it.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, 100%.

[Andy Holloway]

No. He's a great dinosaur. Would you be if he's hunting you down?

[Jason Moore]

Well, I wouldn't be a raptor. They're fast and nimble and small.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. I feel like I more of a brontosaurus.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm gonna go with my favorite. I'm gonna go with the triceratops.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

You know, it's like I'm hulky. Yeah, you're gonna have a hard time.

[Andy Holloway]

You have an armored crest.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. You're gonna have a hard time getting me off my spot, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And I'll stab you if I.

[Andy Holloway]

You play flag football in our league. Exactly like a Triceratops would.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. With three knives.

[Andy Holloway]

With three knives. Yeah. Your open field speed much like a Triceratops much.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Your tail. All right, can you start Jordan Howard as an RB2? He's the consensus RB27. Right on the fringe right now. But the last two weeks, 17 for 80, 20 for 103. Not a player who. Look, we poop on him a little bit because he's been bad, but he's been good in the past. It's not like he hasn't proven himself before. Is he finding himself in these cold.

[Jason Moore]

Weather games over a thousand yards rushing the previous two seasons? And if you look recently, I mean you have. Yes, 100%. Jordan Howard is an option to play this week. He's at home favored. That's usually a great situation. Then you add in the cold weather and the defensive matchup. Green Bay's not.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a Triceratops too.

[Jason Moore]

They're not the. He's not. You know, Green Bay is not the worst against the run, but they're certainly not a team that scares you. And then you just look at volume. He might be inefficient, but I mean, here's his last actually. The whole season. 15, 14, 24, 11, 14, 12, 22, 14, 11, 18. He had one game three games ago where he didn't have double digits, only had seven carries then 16, 19. What do you want more than a running back that's getting over 15 carries a game as a home favorite. He can fall to a touchdown. He. He's got like a baseline, I feel like of 60 yards, which you're going to be disappointed if all he gets is six fan.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But if he's 60 and a touchdown, you're happy. So Taylor Gabriel, you can't play him. Anthony Miller, he got goose last week. I don't think you want to roll him out there in your playoff matchup. The only wide receiver you can trust is Alan Robinson because he's been targeted seven times per game in four straight games. At least seven times. And Trey Poo Poo, you leave him on the bench, hopefully.

[Jason Moore]

I agree completely.

[Andy Holloway]

The 3 and 10 Raiders take on the 5 and 8 Bengals Bengals three point home favorites. It's a 46 point over under O'Driscoll and Tyler Boyd and Joe Mixon and company at home against the Raiders.

[Jason Moore]

This game is very interesting to me because if you want, if you're. Let's say your name is just throwing this out of a hat. Jeremy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And somehow you're in the playoffs and.

[Andy Holloway]

Your team, this hypothetical, Jeremy.

[Jason Moore]

And your team just sucks.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it's just a dog pile of doo doo. If that's the case, look to this game because there are players that are almost exclusively on the waivers. Right. Like there's, there's very few people here that are even owned outside Robertson, Marcel.

[Andy Holloway]

Eight men.

[Jason Moore]

Jordy Nelson and Jalen Richard. Not to mention both quarterbacks, Derek Carr and Jeff Driscoll.

[Andy Holloway]

John Ross.

[Jason Moore]

The defenses are so bad in this game that the offenses might just be fine. This might be the time where all these players who. Look, there's nobody. I talk about Damon Williams not being good. That's Compared to NFL players. He's a. Everyone in the NFL's an unbelievable football player. They're in the NFL, so this is their time to ball out and have fun. I like when two terrible defenses with offensive, you know, pieces from the past get together. So I think this is a game that could be, could be interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

There'll be surprise value there for sure. Identifying it, that might be the bigger challenge. Now, Joe Mixon, this is a. You got to start Joe Mixon and you might expect what top five, top six performance from him against Oakland at home. He was the whole offense last week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. This is what you're hoping for for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

So Joe Mixon is a must start.

[Jason Moore]

I think Tyler Boyd, who was Mike's absentee ballot start of the week this week is also a good play. He is the clear cut, number one target. And in this matchup against this defense, he should be okay.

[Andy Holloway]

CJ Uzama tied in for the Bengals. Our editor asked when you consider CJ Uzama every week, he said it's like asking, do you enjoy going to the dentist?

[Jason Moore]

No. But sometimes you have to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And so do you go to the dentist this week.

[Jason Moore]

If you've got a cavity, you can put C.J. usama in. That's the way I look at it.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. All right. Derek Carr. Multiple touchdowns in three of the last four games. The storyline is the bad defense. So if you, if you find some value there, your. Your opponent's probably happier playing somebody from this matchup. But you may end up surprising in.

[Jason Moore]

The semifinals of the playoffs. Most teams are going to have better option than options than this. But if you're playing dfs, if you're Enjoying that. And you know, maybe you're out of the playoffs or you're in and you're still playing dfs. You can listen to the dfs, the fantasy footballers DFS show which came out today. But these are the players that will be low owned with higher upside. Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

The six and seven Redskins take on the four nine Jags. Jacksonville is their seven and a half point favorites at home. It's a 36 point over under. That has to be the lowest over under of the year.

[Jason Moore]

36.

[Andy Holloway]

And why not? Cody Kessler versus Josh Johnson in a battle of Benjamin.

[Jason Moore]

Battle of Benjamin. That is great. That is like the. You know, you've got Dunkirk and you've got Benjamal and Benjamal was a horrific scene. Yes. And they're going to make a movie of that. But. And it's going to. That movie comes out at 1pm Eastern Time this Sunday.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Where Leonard Fournette will probably find his way through the sludge and the battle of benchmark. But outside of Leonard Fournette, genuinely, honestly, do you want to touch another person in this entire matchup?

[Jason Moore]

The only person that I have considered, I've looked at lineups in DFS or I've looked at deeper, you know, multi flex and I question whether you can start Dede Westbrook in the one game with Cody Kessler. He had a good game. He was the clear cut number one target. The Redskins are. Their offense is so bad that their defense is bad. So maybe, maybe Dede. But I think you're right. Look, Leonard Fournette should be a good play this week. I realize he's been disappointing you, but don't pivot off of him. I think you make a mistake if you don't play. He's seven and a half point home favorites against a bad team. Leonard Fournette, you have to put him in there. I mean, if I'm talking about I'm willing to play Jordan Howard because he's getting 15 touches, I'm definitely willing to play Leonard Fournette. So other than that. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll give you one sneaky start from this game. Vernon Davis. Jordan Reed will be out. Vernon Davis maybe the escape valve for Josh Johnson. I have him in the CJ Uzama tier. So.

[Jason Moore]

Hope you played Antonio Gates last night.

[Andy Holloway]

What did he put up?

[Jason Moore]

It was like 7 for 75 or. No, it was less. Less receptions. But I think he had like 75 yards every play was.

[Andy Holloway]

If Keenan misses time, he could be a sneaky week 16 pickup.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, gross.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's gross.

[Jason Moore]

Trying to keep it down.

[Andy Holloway]

Trying to keep it down. Last question about this matchup. Do you forgive or forget Adrian Poop and Peterson after last week.

[Jason Moore]

Forget. I mean look, as in forget him. Forget him.

[Andy Holloway]

Not forgive him, not forgive him.

[Jason Moore]

No. Derek Henry just carved up the Jacksonville Jaguars. But the Jaguars weren't at home. Teams that are reeling, teams that look like they are giving up and quitting. We've seen this with the Raiders. Those are the teams you want to play against on the road at home. They're still in front of their fans. They don't want to roll over.

[Andy Holloway]

Pride.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. They don't want to roll over. And the talent is still there. You can't argue that the defense doesn't have the pieces.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed. And these are two teams that I believe they're both at the basement over the last six games. Bottom three in offensive points per game. I'll take the under the seven and six Dolphins take on the six, six and one Vikings.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

The Dolphins have a better record than the Minnesota Vikings at this point in the season. The Vikings seven point home favorites, 44 and a half point over, under and.

[Jason Moore]

Seven and six dolphins.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean last week a stinker for Kirk Cousins. Miami's given up three 30 point fantasy games to quarterbacks in a row right now. Multiple touchdown passes given up in seven of eight games. Kirk Cousins or Josh Allen? Jason.

[Jason Moore]

I would go Kirk Cousins.

[Andy Holloway]

Kirk Cousins or Lamar Jackson? Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Ooh, that one is tough. Kirk Cousins or Lamar Jackson? I've got him back to back. My rake is with Kirk Cousins one spot ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd go Lamar, Matt Rya or Kirk Cousins.

[Jason Moore]

Man, I'm answering a lot of Kirk Cousins, but the answer is the same. It's, it's Captain Kirk. I realized he had an atrocious game. So did Jared Goff and I'm not off of either of them. I think they both go home, they get right and have good fantasy games. You just can't, you can't project last week on the next week.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that is a, that's called the normalcy fallacy. Yes, but what's happened in the past predicts the future. It's, it's a whole new ball game here at home in Minnesota. They got that big horn. Is that what it sounds like?

[Jason Moore]

I hope not. Because if that's what it sounds like, that's embarrassing.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the kids version that they hand out to all the. That's the least, least intimidating horn.

[Jason Moore]

Hey guys, we're going to battle. Jacked up for this game. Let's get on.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe that was what DeFilippo was.

[Jason Moore]

I think there was something stuck in the horn and it's too big, it's too deep in there. They're going to in the off season. They're going to have to get that out.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Dalvin Cook, my running back, start of the week, he's the RB8 over the last three weeks and by the way, leads the league in evaded tackles during that span. He's at home. They fired their offensive coordinator. Mike Zimmer wants to run the ball.

[Jason Moore]

They fired him for not giving Dalvin Cook the ball enough. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So Dalvin Cook's getting hyped at that horn, though. Kyle Rudolph, see you later. He hasn't caught a touchdown since week three. Frank Gore, on the other side, the running back that gets a lot more work than Kenyon Drake. He has over 150 rushing attempts with no touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

I don't want any Dolphins. I really, really don't. The Dolphins.

[Andy Holloway]

Flipper.

[Jason Moore]

What's that?

[Andy Holloway]

Flipper.

[Jason Moore]

I don't even want Flipper. No. You know, I don't want Finkel. I don't want Einhorn. I'm thinking that coming off of such a huge high, beating the Patriots at home on a miracle play. Now, you go across the country as far you know, you're going to Minnesota on the road to a team that also just lost and they need to get right. I feel like this is a flip the script game. I trust the Vikings here and I don't trust the Dolphins. Kenyon Drake, he was my pump of the breaks because every week he's getting so few. I think last week it was seven or six carries. No receptions. I mean, no targets. In reality, he technically got one on that lateral play and you take that play out, he was bad. Frank Gore is going to get the work because of Kenyan Drake's shoulder and he will get volume, but I don't know if you could trust the volume on the road against Minnesota's rush defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Any swing for the fences, hopes with Kenny stills after the eight for 135 and one week, he would be the.

[Jason Moore]

Wide receiver I would pick to swing the fence with. Swing.

[Andy Holloway]

Swing the fence with.

[Jason Moore]

Man, that's hard.

[Andy Holloway]

You're picking up a fence and you're swinging it well.

[Jason Moore]

It's stuck in my horns. I'm a trust.

[Andy Holloway]

You've never played baseball, have you?

[Jason Moore]

I. You want to know something?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I have literally never played baseball. Really? Never.

[Andy Holloway]

You've played softball?

[Jason Moore]

I played T ball.

[Andy Holloway]

You've never played softball either.

[Jason Moore]

I.

[Andy Holloway]

So when I say swing for the fences. You've just always been in a complete base.

[Jason Moore]

Don't you pick the fence up and swing it. Oh, this is breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

No, this is more of a. It's a baseball analogy.

[Jason Moore]

That's. Why do you disagree here? Would you, you know, do you think Frank Gore could get it done? Or Kenny Stills?

[Andy Holloway]

I'll put it this way. I'm not going to make it my almost upset, but I think that the Dolphins cover the spread.

[Jason Moore]

Interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

So I. The Dolphins are resilient. They're seven and six. They're riding the high. The Vikings are going the opposite direction. When you talk about momentum, trajectory, pressure, I feel like there is pressure on Kirk Cousins now. You have some things that take that pressure off, like Adam Thielen, Stefan Diggs being at home, the running game. But I'm not excited about Kirk Cousins in this game. I'm not. The Titans at seven and six taken on the five and eight Giants. Giants are two point home favorites, 43 and a half point over under. And we talked about Odell Beckham Jr. It looks like it's going to go right down to the wire. This would be another game where you could possibly find sneaky wide receiver value. Eli Manning played very well last week and If Odell Beckham Jr. Sits out, you know, you could look at Evan Ingram.

[Jason Moore]

That's the name I wanted to bring up. Evan Ingram is absolutely. If Odell Beckham is out, he is. He's not necessarily the primary beneficiary to the point of he's going to have the biggest game. But for fantasy purposes, he's going to be the most relevant player that you can add off of waivers if you're in the situation where you're starting these middling tight ends. He was injured. He came back last week and was limited. Right. He wasn't playing his normal amount of snaps. They brought him in when they wanted to pass. He had 77 yards, looked healthy. Now he's a week further into that. If Odell Beckham sits. I think Evan Ingram, like. I would rather play Evan Ingram than C.J. uzama or Ian Thomas or the. You know, Ian Thomas is about the same level. Maybe I would go Ian Thomas more, but CJ Uzama or Kyle Rudolph or Trey Burton, if Odell Beckham.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to. I want to do our best to give the latest information to our listeners and then project off of that. A couple minutes ago, the Giants Art Stapleton beat reporter, tweeted out that Beckham's at the facility today, not inside the field house during the portion of practice he does not expect him to play. I don't either.

[Jason Moore]

I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

It does not. It's not going the right way. He's being reevaluated. He said something's wrong. In the event of that situation, the way it's feeling now, I'd play. I'd play somebody on Saturday night over Ode Beckham Jr. If it is a large gap difference in the projection.

[Jason Moore]

So let me ask you. You're dealing with this. Does that mean you're starting Robbie Anderson and not waiting for Odell Beckham? Because that's your literal situation.

[Andy Holloway]

It's likely I'll have that decision between Mohammed Sanu and Robbie Anderson.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

If Austin Hooper's out and Patrick Peterson's on, Julio Jones is going to be a really hard decision. But I think we need to project the Giants without Odell Beckham Jr. Which means sterling shepherd is interesting. Evan Ingram, as you mentioned, Saquon, is going to carry the load in the passing. Saquon will lead the team in receptions.

[Jason Moore]

100%. Saquon. I mean, we don't need to talk about him too much because he's just one of the three best running backs this week. You play him no matter what. The question is, does one of the Shepherds step up enough to where you can trust them and start them? Sterling Shepard or Russell Shepard, you know, Benny Fowler, Coleman. No, you're not going to start any of these guys. Maybe Sterling Shepherd. Maybe you could throw Sterling Shepard out there. He had a touchdown last week, but he hasn't had five receptions in a game since week seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, something seems a little off there.

[Jason Moore]

I would basically not play a wide receiver. I'd play Evan Ingram. If you've got one of those middling, crappy tight ends that you never like and you close your eyes, I'd pick Evan Ingram up, open my eyes and have fun when he, you know, catches the ball. And he's faster than everyone.

[Andy Holloway]

3 for 77, 4 for 77. That's. That's in the realm of. Yeah, he only gets 77 yards is what I'm saying.

[Jason Moore]

That's it.

[Andy Holloway]

On the other side, there is another triceratops that rumbled through the lines last week. Do you piggyback Derek? Do you piggyback on Derek Henry? My pump the brakes? Do you ride him to a title? Is he going to be the person that is bronzed on the walls of fantasy owners? Jason?

[Jason Moore]

I don't think he's going to be the guy bronzed on the wall, but I am willing to start him this week. When you're coming off of a game like that, it's going to be hard for the coaching staff to look competent. If they then pivot and don't give him the ball, you know, you're going to say, what in the world? He just, you know, broke all franchise records last week. What are you doing? So I expect him to actually, because of that performance, get a slight uptick in volume.

[Andy Holloway]

Derek Henry or Sony Michelle?

[Jason Moore]

I would go Sony Michelle in that. In that.

[Andy Holloway]

Jalen Samuels or Derek Henry?

[Jason Moore]

This is assuming that. You know what? Actually I'm going Derek Henry there.

[Andy Holloway]

Derek Henry or James White?

[Jason Moore]

I would go Derek Henry over James White.

[Andy Holloway]

Lamar Miller or Derek Henry?

[Jason Moore]

Lamar Miller. Okay, we got there. Thank you for letting me say not Derek Henry. Because the reality is we have a large sample on Derek Henry. He's not been good, he's been bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Michael. Secret, secret stuff.

[Jason Moore]

Is that what he had?

[Andy Holloway]

Space jam.

[Jason Moore]

Here's one thing worth noting and obviously the numbers are really skewed, but his home road before last week was still one of those things where he, Derek Henry is much better at home than on the road. This game's on the road. Dion Lewis has been the opposite. He's been so, you know, I don't know. I don't really love starting either of these guys. I don't think you could start Dion Lewis, do you?

[Andy Holloway]

Probably not. Probably not. The Seahawks 8 and 5 take on the 3 and 10 49ers. 49ers are 3 and a half point a home underdogs. It's a 44 and a half point over under. We had the explosion from George Kittle last week. He's a must start. Nick Mullins and company. Where else is the value? I mean, Dante Pettis, Marquis Goodwin, both banged up. Burrito banged up. There's a little bit of ambiguity to who's going to be out there for San Francisco other than the George Kittle must start.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, and the Seahawks thus.

[Andy Holloway]

Far have not been very generous to tight ends. They're fifth in the league against them, only seven and a half fantasy points per game. Kittle's a different breed, but they will scheme against George Kittle and make someone else beat him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, you're going to start George Kittle, period. He's just been too good this season. And look, if for some reason they don't have Marquis Goodwin, Dante Pettis, Pierre Carson, they're going to have, you know, a hodgepodge of wide receivers out there and every Target is going to go to George Kittle. The thing is, is if you guard George Kittle well, George Kittle can still get the ball. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's just bigger than you, stronger than you, faster than you. So, I mean, I would expect that to ruin his yards after the catch score because he'll grab the ball and just be tackled by five guys. But, yeah, this is one where you have to monitor.

[Andy Holloway]

If I told you Mike Davis was going to get 12 carries in this game, do you care?

[Jason Moore]

I don't really care. I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Because Rashad Penny hasn't practiced.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, that could very well happen. If Rashad Penny doesn't play. He didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday, then Davis will be the backup. But I don't really care. I think this is the Chris Carson show. He's my start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Doug Baldwin, Tyler Lockett, David Moore. Moore has not scored in two straight weeks. Tyler Lockett last week, by far the most targeted wide receiver. I believe he had two carries on top of five receptions. You're starting Tyler Lockett as a what.

[Jason Moore]

As a wide receiver, too? I think he's a solid play this week. I would play him for sure. With Doug Baldwin in. With Doug Baldwin out, that. That doesn't change the equation for me. With Tyler Lockett and Russell Wilson, I think you can start as well. I mean, you know, this was the matchup. Granted, it was in Seattle, but this is the matchup where, what do you throw the ball, like, 12 times? But he had four touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And I could see something like that happening again.

[Andy Holloway]

This tweet came from Bobby Sylvester over there at Fantasy Pros. He said, Nick Mullen's prorated to a full season right now. 4700 yards, 29 touchdowns, small samples. He had 414 passing yards and two touchdowns against Seattle in week 13. Is Nick Mullins better than no? No. Okay. The answer is no.

[Jason Moore]

No. I mean, I think when you only play, here's. Here's the reality. If you. If you have context for Nick, What Nick Mullins has done. Nick Mullins has. So, like, take that Seattle game, right in Seattle. 414 yards and two touchdowns. That all came after they were down by a kajillion points and the defense changed. And I mean, if you watch the first half of that game, you go, oh, Nick Mullins is trash. But then you get a lot of garbage time.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, Nick Mullins or Nick Foles?

[Jason Moore]

Nick Foles.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I would trust foles more.

[Andy Holloway]

The nine and four patriots take on the seven five and one Steelers in Pittsburgh. The Steelers are two and a half point underdogs at home and a 52 point over under. Fantasy owners have to like that. This is a very important game for both teams, especially for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Almost a must win. The Steelers. We don't think James Conner is going to be out there. It's going to be Jalen Samuels handling the bulk of the running back work with Steven Ridley possibly mixed in around the goal line. You have must starts with Antonio Brown and juju Smith Schuster. You have must starts on the other side with Tom Brady, Julian Edelman and Rob Gronkowski. How do you feel about the running backs for New England and then Josh Gordon? Do you have any thoughts on those guys? Josh Gordon 5 for 96 last week. Josh Gordon leading the league in yards per catch.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Josh Gordon. I'm not a big fan of this week. Mike's brought up Joe Hayden all year and that's the guy that I expect him to be on, which is why Julian Edelman is my start of the week this week. And I love Gronk. Gronk has destroyed the Steelers every time they've played. He's just been unbelievable. So I think you can play Gronk with full confidence that he's back. And Julian Edelman, I mean, do you remember the Steelers last week? Do you remember the Steelers last week? How much they put. When Keenan Allen was in the slot, they kept putting these linebackers on them like dummies and then Keenan Allen just ate them up. Don't do that to Julian Edelman or Julian Edelman is going to make you look like a fool. And if they do that, that'd be great because he's my start of the week. So that's how I feel. I'm not. I'm not big on Josh Gordon. Love Julian Edelman. You could start Josh Gordon in a pinch because like you said, he's the deep guy. One deep touchdown and your week is good.

[Andy Holloway]

Graham Barfield tweeted this. James White's weekly snap rate over The Patriots last six games. Ready? 80%. 78%. 64%.

[Jason Moore]

Less.

[Andy Holloway]

53%.

[Jason Moore]

Less than that.

[Andy Holloway]

45%.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's not good.

[Andy Holloway]

40%. Rex Burkhead has impacted the snap counts in recent weeks. Can you trust Sony Michelle or James White? I mean, they. This was part of the enigma that the Patriots backfield creates for fantasy owners that I pumped the brakes on last week. It wasn't that they can't perform, it's that you don't know who will and you don't. I mean, James White two weeks ago dominated on the field target after target after target. Now 40% snap count. Do you have a reason why? Sure, but I don't know what will happen week to week.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Julian Edelman being back, being healthy, being utilized in that role with Rex Burkhead there. James White was not this fantasy superstar coming into the year, even though he was a very talented player for them in real life. He was a fantasy superstar when Rex Burkhead went out and Julian Edelman was injured and he became their primary target. He's not their primary target. The one guy I think you can start with confidence is Sony Michelle. The last three weeks, you know, this is. This is with Rex Burkhead. This is with, you know, the full complete gamut of running backs. 21 carries, 17 carries, 20 carries. No, he hasn't had a touchdown, but he's had red zone work. You just. He's a talented guy on a good offense getting the work that is valuable. I'm fine starting Sony Michelle because eventually the touchdown will come.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, Jalen Samuels, don't forget to get him in your tight end spot if you're in. Yahoo. He out snapped Ridley 48 to 8 last week. In some ways, it's better for fantasy owners if we know that Connor's not in there. Because if Connor does play coming off an ankle injury, there will be question marks around snap counts for him. Jan Samuels will be mixed in. It will be a little messy with a guy that had a high ankle sprain that comes back in two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't expect him to be back, but if Connor is back, I'm starting Connor with pretty much full confidence.

[Andy Holloway]

The Eagles are six and seven. They're taking on the 11 and two Rams. This is Sunday Night Football. This is back in Los angeles. It's a 53 and a half point over under as a very high implied point total for the Los Angeles Rams. And Jared Goff, who we expect to bounce back at home this year, 367 passing yards. Love Robert Woods, Brandon Cooks. Love all Rams. Do we not?

[Jason Moore]

No. I mean, it's really, really simple. There's almost no situation where you're not starting Jared Goff. There is no situation where you're not starting Todd Gurley. There is no situation where you're not starting Robert woods. And there shouldn't be a situation where you're not starting Brandon Cook. So that's. They're all. They're all in your lineups. The questions become, on the Ram side.

[Andy Holloway]

Of the ball, Josh Reynolds.

[Jason Moore]

Purely Josh Reynolds. Can you trust him? Can you take that? Can you pick that fence up, give it a heave? Can you swing it?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh. Can you swing that fence? I get it.

[Jason Moore]

Swing that fence on Josh Reynolds.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll be honest. While you were talking, I did check our league of record to make sure Josh Reynolds was rostered. So if that tells you anything, he does have potential for a surprise big game. But he's, you know, he's not the number one option on that team. He's the fourth option on that team at best, right now. So maybe he's flex consideration. Hey, guys in Dynasty, can I swap.

[Jason Moore]

Him in for Keenan Allen?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you mean after the fact?

[Jason Moore]

Afterwards.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you got zero from Keenan. It's like Keenan wasn't even started. Can I do that?

[Jason Moore]

We. Did you pull the commish, which is me? No, never. Oh, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you bench Keenan knowing that that was going to happen?

[Jason Moore]

No, I did not. Like I told you.

[Andy Holloway]

I just thought I'd ask.

[Jason Moore]

I told you this, Brooks. The way you've been strutting around the office, demanding that you are the clear champion, which just so everybody at home.

[Andy Holloway]

Knows he's a strut.

[Jason Moore]

It's just like a peacock.

[Andy Holloway]

It's called peacock.

[Jason Moore]

He's peacocking like crazy.

[Andy Holloway]

Pluming.

[Jason Moore]

I wonder what the people think is the truth.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, if they know Brooks by now.

[Jason Moore]

Which they don't, because we hide him.

[Andy Holloway]

That's true.

[Jason Moore]

He's a lot of people. They can't see the cage right now that we have him in.

[Andy Holloway]

But, you know, I wouldn't call it a cage. I'd call it a compound.

[Jason Moore]

Right, sure. Compound. With bars.

[Andy Holloway]

With locks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, and locks.

[Andy Holloway]

But baby, Josh has been in there with him.

[Jason Moore]

That's not like he's alone. No more. Solitary.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what they say. If you. If you lock up two or more people, it's not locking them up.

[Jason Moore]

Right. That is what Mama always said.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The Eagles. Yeah, they've given up 35 fancy points a game to wide receiver. Structured wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the thing. It's the Christmas season.

[Andy Holloway]

Uh huh.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, St. Nick got St. Nick. I get you back at it again. Last year's super bowl savior.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather start Mark Wahlberg.

[Jason Moore]

You'd rather start quarterback Mark Wahlberg?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Not Mark Waltenberg, even. But the actual.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Not in the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

Wasn't he in a movie where he was playing for Philadelphia?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a kicker, though. That's fine.

[Jason Moore]

No, was he? I Thought that was Tony Danzo. Oh, yeah, I'm getting.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I got the wrong.

[Jason Moore]

This was. Man. What is the name of that movie? He tried out for it as like a walk on Invincible. Yeah, there you go. That sounds right.

[Andy Holloway]

I put him in. I'd put him in this week over Foles. No, I mean I just, I'm not excited. I think this is a, an important bounce back game at home for Los Angeles. Foles, he's just not what you want to roll out there in any way, shape or form. He depletes any hope. You have announced Jeffrey Golden Tate now, something could happen. You know, Nelson Aguilar could catch a long touchdown. Alison, Jeffrey could catch a touchdown. We're not excited, are we?

[Jason Moore]

We're not excited. But I actually.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you think he's sneaky.

[Jason Moore]

I do think he's sneaky. I mean Foles, when he comes in, see what you expect to happen and what usually happens. Okay, you got that? Backup Mark Walden is not there. Hey Nick, get in there, throw some touchdowns for me. So how do you mother for me? No, the reality is I think Doug Peterson comes in and throws the ball more than we expect with Nick going to have to. And that's the reality. He's going to have to. I think Foles is competent enough to get it done. So yeah, I do think Nick Foles is a little bit sneaky. Breaking news.

[Andy Holloway]

Isaiah Crowell has been officially added to the injured reserve. He will no longer play Elijah McGuire.

[Jason Moore]

Also, Kiki Cootie will not travel with the team. He is out.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. The 11 and 2 Saints Monday Night Football taking on the 6 and 7 Panthers. Panthers are reeling right now. This game is in Carolina though. They are six point home underdogs, a 51 and a half point over under and Cam Newton is the question of the hour. Can fantasy owners who thought they had a quarterback who was not only performing well all season long but had a great playoff schedule, can they count on him at home against New Orleans? New Orleans is a team that is. They've struggled against the pass. They've been much better against the run. You would imagine Cam Newton will deliver in this game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's really tough. I thought about making Cam my start of the week to give confidence because I would start Cam, but I didn't make him my start of the week because I didn't have supreme confidence. Look, the New Orleans Saints, if you look at their year long schedule and their, their, their year long fantasy points given up, they look like a bad defense, but they have not Been bad. They have not been beat the same way. If you, you know, since week 10 they've actually been one of the more difficult matchups for quarterbacks. And so I do worry a little to Carolina.

[Andy Holloway]

It's difficult to contain Cam Newton. All of his rushing touchdowns have happened at home. He's got a 70% completion percentage at home.

[Jason Moore]

Here's what I love about Cam Newton to speak to the other side. So I worry a little bit about the matchup. So good he has weapons for the first time in forever because DJ Moore is ready. Curtis Samuel is ready. Devin Funches is where he belongs. Were they as a solid wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Were they not ready last week?

[Jason Moore]

I think, I think the week before. Yeah, they were they.

[Andy Holloway]

Are they just now ready? Were they pre ready?

[Jason Moore]

If you look at the last two weeks for Cam Newton last week, huge disappointment the week before. He's not as bad as people. I mean people are like, oh, two terrible weeks from Cam Newton. No, it's like he had a disappointing week for expectations but it wasn't like he just ruined your week. He didn't.

[Andy Holloway]

He's still the sixth ranked fantasy quarterback on the season.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. So yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But no touchdowns last week was surprising against Cleveland.

[Jason Moore]

Well and what was super weird about that was they were down near the goal line and their play calling was just stupid last week. I mean really legitimate.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that because of the shoulder? Protect him and his shoulder from injury. He's only had a 3020 rushing yard.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think that was the reason for the stupidity. I mean they were down there. They could have just rushed Christian McCaffrey who was tearing him up and they didn't. That would have protected the shoulder. So I just think they'll get home. I CAM Newton, I'm 100% fine playing him. Just temper your expectations. He's not a. He's not going to be the quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

One or two this week I got D.J. moore at 23, Curtis Samuel at 24. So I think both of them have an opportunity in this matchup. They're fringe two threes. Ian Thomas, we talked about him. Tight end for Carolina. You can start him if you need him. He has a 19% target share the past two weeks and Christian McCaffrey is a must start. Would you rather play DJ Moore or Curtis Samuel? Like if I'm asking you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I got more.

[Andy Holloway]

One spot ahead of Samuel but I don't know if I really know which guy's going to be better.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it really is a crapshoot week in, week out. I Think that the more talented raw ability is still with DJ Moore. So I would, I would lean towards more.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Are you concerned at all about Drew Brees? He's our consensus QB4, so maybe that says no. But the last three weeks is passing yardage. Get this. 171 yards, 127 yards, 201 yards.

[Jason Moore]

Nope.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, you're all aboard.

[Jason Moore]

Carolina's defense has gotten progressively worse as the season has gone on. I think this is great news for Cam Newton. I'm there's or for Drew Brees. I'm going to start him for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

And Alvin Camara, no touchdowns for the last three weeks. He is averaging 17 touches because he.

[Jason Moore]

Started the year so incredibly, incredibly on fire that you thought, oh, he's going to be the running back. One or two. Him and Gurley, I imagine he's four.

[Andy Holloway]

Right now in our league format he's four. But you've got Gurley Barkley, CMC I assume ahead of him.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And Zeke probably.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Zeke has just been unbelievable. If you didn't hear the stats from the DFS fantasy show on the season the entire from week one. He's on target for, he's on pace for 100 targets. Zeke is.

[Andy Holloway]

This is what we've begged for for years. They finally did it and they're winning. So Michael Thomas had 11 catches last week. A bit of a bounce back game. We'd like to see him get in the end zone here. Mark Ingram, for what it's worth, only four, only one of his touchdowns on the year have come on the road. Four of them at home. I think that's probably just because these games are not put away on the road like they are at home. And so Camara sees more snaps. I, you know, that's why you look.

[Jason Moore]

For home favorites in Vegas for running backs. That's why guys like Jordan Howard are good. Because when you put the game away it's, it's usually at home where you're running out clocks.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree. So all right, no other injury updates since the game started. We're going to do, we're going to jump into Daily dose. I guess desean Jackson not practicing again Friday. That should not be a surprise nor should it be consideration of yours in any way, shape or form to start DeSean Jackson if he was active playing up in Baltimore. But we're gonna do daily dose here. It's gonna be a one on one today.

[Jason Moore]

The Daily Dose brought to you by draft.

[Andy Holloway]

What did you end up setting up for us in this draft?

[Jason Moore]

I set up pretty much take what you want. You can go.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, all players are eligible.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Well, there's one game is over, so we can't draft the guys that have already played solid point. Outside of that. Yeah, I mean it's pretty much draft whoever you want. Mano Imano. And it looks like you are going to have the first pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Are a lot of good. I think I'm going to go out on a limb here. I think we're both going to like our team at the end of this draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think it's going to be pretty darn stacked. Looks like I have the number one pick overall and it's close for me. I'm actually going to go with the aforementioned Ezekiel Elliott. I think. I think Zeke's going to run wild.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there are four running backs that they're just so great this week. I couldn't really choose between them. So I'm actually going to go towards the wide receiver, tight end position on draft. I'm taking Antonio Brown first. The splits between him and juju Smith Schuster home and away. Juju is the road guy. Antonio is the home guy. That's what I truly believe. And I'm going to pair him with my actual number one ranked wide receiver on the week, Michael Thomas, who I am not afraid of that Carolina defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Little draft strategy here. There's no. I agree with you. I think there's four great running backs and I. You didn't take any. So I'm not going to take any and I'm not going to go with Julio Jones here. What I am going to do is I'm going to take juju Smith Schuster. That way you feel pain when he scores in Antonio Brown doesn't score.

[Jason Moore]

That's a very interesting strategy since I have my wide receivers locked up and cannot draft one. Well, sure, that's just point. Point.

[Andy Holloway]

But I can't not draft anybody at any position there, Jason. But I'm going to pair him with Big Ben Roethlisberger.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. You got the stack.

[Andy Holloway]

I wondered.

[Jason Moore]

I wondered if I was going to be able to get the Big Ben, Antonio Brown stack. The fact that you've got Antonio, who's your other wide receiver, have you picked yet?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I've got juju and I've got Big Ben and Zeke. So you've got two picks and then I got my final two.

[Jason Moore]

All right, so I guess I'm going to have to go with my other stack then because you've got. If Antonio blows up, you've got Big Ben. I'M going to go with Drew Brees to pair with my Michael Thomas. Yep. And at running back, look, saquantog Gurley, Christian McCaffrey. It's hard to really pick favorites there. I'm going to take Todd Gurley. He's at home huge implied over under with Nick Foles being there. If the wheels start falling off, I think you could see Todd Gurley just keep rushing. Just, just 700 yards, eight touchdowns. It's going to be a pretty solid.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a lot. I went with Saquon Barkley to pair with the original Ezekiel Elliott. So I left you with Christian McCaffrey if you wanted. And then at this point I'm staring down these last wide receiver decisions. I'm having a hard time. I could go with a guy like George Kittle too, but I think I'm just going to take DeAndre Hopkins.

[Jason Moore]

New Orleans has been so good against the running back that I worry about Christian McCaffrey a little bit when compared to Joe Mixon.

[Andy Holloway]

But he's a wide receiver and a running back.

[Jason Moore]

But Joe Mix has been so good. Oh, what are you doing against Cincinnati? So this is going to be very interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

Joe Mix is playing against Cincinnati.

[Jason Moore]

Well, what he's playing against Cincinnati's play calling.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

Against the Oakland Raiders. But I am taking Christian McCaffrey after all that.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

So my final team, I've got the Drew Brees Michael Thomas stack with Antonio Brown, Todd Gurley and Christian McCaffrey. Sounds pretty good.

[Andy Holloway]

Big Ben, Juju, Zeke and Barkley and DeAndre Hopkins. So it's a battle of the Titans this week and our head to head daily dose. Don't forget draft.comballers if you want to play with us.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that'll be fun to see how that goes. And hey, don't forget this holiday season to send the gift of Omaha steaks, go to Omaha Steaks.com enter fantasy into the search bar right there on the homepage and you will get 74% off the Omaha Steaks family gift package. It's only 49.99, usually $195 order. Today you're going to get hand cut sirloin steaks, premium pork chops, kielbasa sausages, burgers. So much more. So go to Omaha steaks.com type fantasy into the search bar on their homepage and add the family gift package to your cart. You won't be disappointed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep, bring it Odell Beckham Jr situations haunting me right now, but we'll keep you up to date with all the injury news you can follow us on Twitter at the Ffballers. We'll post news there. Our Instagram, we're always hitting Instagram with the ins, the outs, things that are going on with the big players and then the live stream. Obviously you'll be notified about that on Twitter or if you follow us on YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. Big week, I should say. YouTube.com fantasy footballers.

[Jason Moore]

YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

What did I say? What did I say? Yeah, you did it right the first time. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Instagram is instagram.com fancy football.

[Jason Moore]

It's so confusing.

[Andy Holloway]

You'll find us.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. All right, best of luck this week in the semifinals. I hope all four of us are in the championship come next week.

[Andy Holloway]

See you later. Oh, yep, toot that horn.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on JoinTheFoot.com and follow us on Twitter, the FFballers.