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Mike Wright
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Welcome in. Never a dull moment. Friday, December 12, the fantasy footballers Podcast. Jason Moore is here. Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. Kyle Pitts is here.
Mike Wright
Kyle Pitts.
Andy Holloway
What was that all about?
Mike Wright
What? That is the most points a tight end has scored in fantasy football in the history of the world. Because it dates back to 1983. And I don't think real fantasy football was going, you know.
Andy Holloway
Well, okay, sure. Though that grandpa. Yeah.
Mike Wright
To the Raiders organization, whatever. In the last 40 years, that's the most fantasy points ever scored by a tight end. It happened in the first week of the playoffs. Some. There are three.
Jason Moore
153 coming from.
Mike Wright
No, no, I didn't. I've got him as my tight end. Four on the week.
Jason Moore
Sorry, that was insulting. 166 and three.
Mike Wright
Yeah. This is a place where. Now we're going in to the first week of the playoffs with three Situations. You benched Kyle Pitts. Whoops a doozle.
Jason Moore
Did that in Listener league and Kincaid.
Mike Wright
I did that in my league of record for Mark Andrews. Whoopsies. You played Kyle Pitts and you now are feeling like you're almost on a bye week.
Jason Moore
Yeah. You're almost invincible.
Mike Wright
Almost invincible. If you get 40 points at the tight end position from Kyle Pitts and. Or you played against Kyle Pitts in which case I've got a lot of information about fishing rods now.
Jason Moore
So it's just so fantasy football.
Mike Wright
Oh man.
Jason Moore
Mike, I think you told me it was a 7% of his career points in one game.
Andy Holloway
A tweet from Hayden Winks. The stats you could just keep rattling.
Mike Wright
Oh they're so fun.
Andy Holloway
But The Hayden Winks one. He tweeted out 7% of Kyle Pitt's career fantasy points.
Jason Moore
I believe it's his first hundred yard game since 2021. So just yardage wise like it was inexplicable. It was outrageous. I mean and on top of that, I mean it was a. It was a win by the Falcons in a game they shouldn't have won. That Tampa needed desperately. The Carolina fans are singing and dancing in the streets about.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And the Tampa was up by 14 late in the fourth that they were on a final drive with a third and 28. A fourth at 14 and kids don't listen to Todd Bowles press conference afterwards. That is.
Andy Holloway
It's not for sensitive ears.
Mike Wright
No, it's.
Jason Moore
He held nothing back.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
That's rated R. Baker was not. I mean he was okay.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
The pressure on Baker was significant. If you played Bucky, you're pretty much unhappy. I know because I played him and it was under 10 points and so you know, you only got one catch from him. The wide receivers, it was all Mike Evans. I mean Mike Evans was 6 for 13212 targets. Abuka was next up at 4 for 61.
Mike Wright
We are inevitable.
Andy Holloway
Mike Dino Jr. Jr. We played Evans. Abuka was.
Jason Moore
Bijon was outrageous.
Andy Holloway
Abuka was fine. Not anything close to what I still thought would happen.
Jason Moore
All three of his non. So he was four out of seven targets which is an incredible increase for him. Caught four of seven. The three he did not catch. We're not catch a bull.
Andy Holloway
Correct.
Jason Moore
It was over his head by 20 yards. One of them way behind.
Mike Wright
Right. Am I remembering.
Andy Holloway
I thought there was an end zone target.
Jason Moore
There was an end zone target but I. It's illegal. It should be illegal to call it a target. It was. So it was the top of the.
Andy Holloway
Luka was standing in the end zone when a football went flying past him.
Mike Wright
Yeah. It's so wild because last night, I mean, if Baker was throwing to Chris Godwin on point, on the money, in stride every time, and it's like, you're throwing to a Buca. I think there's. You know, we talk about this, I believe is genuine when a. When a wide receiver has a couple drops and they start dealing with that, there's. They're human beings. The mental aspect of, like, oh, no. I think that's going on with Baker when he targets Buka right now. Like, he's going like, I've got. I have to get him. I've got to get him. And it's like.
Jason Moore
Like, this has to be perfect.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And so it's causing him to not throw it. Like, he's like, it didn't matter who else he threw the ball to. It was okay. Unless it was a Buka, and then it's not catchable.
Jason Moore
Bijan had eight catches himself for 82 yards, 19 for 93, and a touchdown.
Andy Holloway
Putting a super boss that they said didn't count. You got to count it. That catch on the side, the one hand.
Mike Wright
Oh, that was awesome. I mean, it was totally out of bounds.
Andy Holloway
No, he had a foot in.
Mike Wright
He also had a very questionable fumble. Yeah. I mean, it was two weeks in.
Jason Moore
A row for Bijan on the fumbles, and.
Mike Wright
But that was, like. It was. It wasn't. It was an incomplete pass, in my opinion.
Jason Moore
I mean, they did review it.
Mike Wright
No, I know, I know. I mean, they reviewed the Isaiah likely, and I mean, if, like, those two things were very different, the Isaiah likely and the Bijan.
Jason Moore
But it was a fumble.
Mike Wright
You know, I don't think it was. Watch it.
Jason Moore
But it was a fumble.
Mike Wright
But he didn't catch it yet.
Jason Moore
Yeah, but it was like a fumble. I know.
Mike Wright
It was credited as a fumble. Yeah.
Jason Moore
No, I just mean, like, he caught it, and then you're just saying he didn't take enough steps.
Andy Holloway
I need to go watch it again.
Jason Moore
I'm just saying, like, he did catch it. Right.
Mike Wright
Watch it in full speed now. I promise you'll be like, oh, yeah, that's an inter. That's an incomplete.
Andy Holloway
Has anyone worked harder to get the ball 20 yards down the field than Kirk Cousins?
Mike Wright
No.
Jason Moore
No.
Andy Holloway
That guy is.
Jason Moore
That's a weighted football.
Andy Holloway
Every ounce of him is trying to throw that football, and that thing just goes.
Jason Moore
And that's exactly why Jason has confidence in these seven years as senior. Senior Philip Rivers.
Mike Wright
I was thinking about this on the drive in. Cousins has nothing less on the drive in today and it was great. I realized like Philip Rivers cannot throw a ball downfield. He cannot challenge downfield. There is no world where his 44 year old hasn't thrown the ball in 5 years. Arm is able to make a pass that travels more than 20 air yards.
Jason Moore
With speed.
Mike Wright
With speed. That's like not picked off. I mean you could get a 50, 50 ball where the wide receiver goes up and wins.
Andy Holloway
No out routes. You can't run a single one.
Mike Wright
Oh, that's called a P6.
Jason Moore
There was some talk of him winning throwing competitions when he was training Drake May before the season.
Andy Holloway
Also, he's playing against people his age.
Jason Moore
Against Drake May. Against Drake May.
Mike Wright
He's playing.
Jason Moore
Oh, he's going to play. And you're going to lose all your bets.
Mike Wright
Not all of them. Well, you did.
Jason Moore
I bet you didn't put him in your price fix lineup.
Andy Holloway
I did.
Mike Wright
Not yet, but I'm going to make another one with a minute. I'm doing it right now.
Andy Holloway
You can't tell me we are celebrating Philip on the.
Jason Moore
Oh, look at the back wall.
Andy Holloway
If you hadn't seen it.
Mike Wright
Oh, P. River.
Jason Moore
That looks pretty good.
Andy Holloway
That is an authentic game worn. Yeah, Philip Rivers jersey.
Mike Wright
To be fair, it's not pee. No, but it's also. I know I had a problem with pluralization, but it should be P. Rivers.
Jason Moore
No, it's P. River.
Mike Wright
That's it. We shortened both.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Yeah, just forever the market.
Mike Wright
It was a long time ago, guys. Forgive me for not remembering half a decade.
Andy Holloway
Kyle posted the video for us to watch.
Mike Wright
I didn't watch it. I would never watch that.
Andy Holloway
Kyle, because of your weight you're not going to put the work in and then you're going to be upset that you don't know the answers.
Mike Wright
I am just surprised at what we did.
Jason Moore
It's P. River.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's supposed to be.
Jason Moore
Because then all the jokes were about wading into P. River and all that stuff. It's Friday and then there's no more shows.
Mike Wright
Put Clan Friday.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
I hope so. You do good work over there.
Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
I didn't know you were gonna put the tag in at the end.
Mike Wright
Yeah, you know, just trying to hit a plug. Don't worry about it.
Jason Moore
Woody Marks returned to a limited practice Thursday. Nick Chubb is sidelined. Woody Marks lined up for a.
Mike Wright
It's going to be good monster game.
Jason Moore
Marvin Harrison Jr. Did not practice again on Thursday.
Andy Holloway
It.
Mike Wright
He's injured. I mean, this is.
Andy Holloway
I know, I know. I know that. It's just the. Is it gonna. Is it gonna happen?
Mike Wright
Is it gonna work? Is he gonna be a star wide receiver?
Andy Holloway
Is he gonna perform as a top five overall draft pick should?
Mike Wright
No. But I do think he will be a legitimate NFL wide receiver. One for many years. And I think next year, next season, when he's back starting out as the one, he'll. He'll be better than he was this year. And he wasn't that bad this year.
Jason Moore
T. Higgins limited again on Thursday. Concussion seems like he's going to play Roma Dunes A limited on Thursday with the foot. Mark Andrews added to the injury report on Thursday.
Andy Holloway
Oh, no.
Jason Moore
With a glute. A glute?
Mike Wright
Come on, man.
Jason Moore
Well, you didn't.
Andy Holloway
He's got a.
Jason Moore
You got other options to pits?
Mike Wright
I can't because he was Thursday night, but thankfully I'm actually going to make.
Jason Moore
A pivot to likely.
Mike Wright
To likely.
Jason Moore
Just because of this glute. How? You got to check his glutes out to see if.
Andy Holloway
Oh, no, no, no. It's not glutes. It's gluten. Just singular. One butt cheek is.
Mike Wright
We don't know left or right, but we know it's.
Andy Holloway
Does it make a difference to you?
Jason Moore
Well, what one do you lean on?
Mike Wright
I think if he's usually. If he's lining up on the right side, I'd be far more concerned. If it's his right glute, that's okay.
Jason Moore
This is analysis. Theo Johnson remain limited. Mike start of the week, the toe injury. He should play. Chris Rodriguez returned to a limited practice. He's been managing injury seems to play through it.
Mike Wright
Your start of the week.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And then CD Lamb cleared concussion protocol. He's expected to play on Sunday.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah, baby.
Jason Moore
So that's good news, right?
Mike Wright
That is great news. I know it's bad news for you, Andy. Because you told me before the show that you are actively rooting against me. Now you're not in the court.
Jason Moore
I did not actually say that at all.
Mike Wright
You are rooting.
Jason Moore
I did not say I'm rooting against.
Mike Wright
Okay, I apologize. You're rooting for my opponent.
Jason Moore
Yes. Because he's never won a championship in 17, 18 years.
Andy Holloway
I will say that is the same thing as rooting against Jason. Well.
Mike Wright
Right.
Jason Moore
Are you telling me you're rooting for Jason to match your titles?
Andy Holloway
I'm rooting for Jason to win.
Mike Wright
Yes. Yes, he is.
Andy Holloway
For personal reasons.
Mike Wright
He doesn't want to face the guy. You want.
Jason Moore
You want to play him.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, but are you rooting for Jason.
Jason Moore
To win a championship?
Andy Holloway
No.
Jason Moore
You're a bad friend.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
No, because I'm in. If I were out, I would root for Jason.
Mike Wright
Thank you, Mike.
Jason Moore
You're a good friend to match your titles. There's no way. I've heard you say this 10 million times.
Mike Wright
It's too late.
Andy Holloway
You're already in the club. The club is ruined. It was just me hanging out with my chocolate fountain and my cheese fondue. And then you're like, hey, I'm a three time champ, too. And I was like, oh, you don't.
Jason Moore
Like it as much, now you bring your farts in. All right. CD Lamb cleared concussion protocol. Jake Ferguson did not practice on Thursday. We had Christian McCaffrey wait.
Andy Holloway
Ferguson?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Dealing with a calf.
Andy Holloway
Oh, that's from limited to not.
Jason Moore
I have one league ride to do. The Pitts versus Ferguson decision. And thank goodness in that one league, I made the right choice. But, yeah, the Ferguson thing is something to watch. Make sure you have somebody ready to rumble. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Oh, dude, Big colts.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
He scored.
Mike Wright
Well, see you later.
Jason Moore
Anyone but ebuka. Cmc. Ltd. Due to illness.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Okay.
Mike Wright
Sleeper.
Andy Holloway
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Mike Wright
I wonder if.
Andy Holloway
Heart palpitations, perhaps a stroke.
Mike Wright
I wonder if one person died. I would not be surprised.
Andy Holloway
Would not be surprised. I. Dude, I got that thing. And it was immediately OOP on Twitter. What in the. Oh, he's sick.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
When I heard, my goodness, how dear.
Jason Moore
I heard questionable first as well. And I was like, ooh, yes. Actually, my first thought was, is Mike alive?
Andy Holloway
I promise, everyone who saw that freaked out. But he's just a little sick. He's okay.
Jason Moore
Josh Jacobs did not practice on Thursday with the knee injury. Devon HM was limited. He'll play on Monday. According to reports, Devonte Adams did not practice Wednesday or Thursday with a hamstring. Pay attention to that. Probably veteran management there. He's been able to play through it. And then Camara still sidelined. Lots of news.
Andy Holloway
Devonte Adams doesn't need to run very far when he just does routes from.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
It just sounded Devonte Adams does have a beard.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that's what got me. Here we go.
Mike Wright
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Jason Moore
Yesterday we covered the Browns, Bears, Ravens, Bengals, Chargers, Chiefs, Bills, Patriots, Commanders, Giants, Raiders, Eagles, jets, jags, Cardinals, Texans. Seven more matchups to talk about Week 15 playoff matchups. Guys, I need, I need your best. I know, I know. Normally you're probably given 60%. I want.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
But if you round up.
Jason Moore
I want your best.
Mike Wright
Okay. Got it.
Jason Moore
Detroit eight and five, Los Angeles ten and three. A fun game here. LA minus six at home. Over under 54 and a half. That is respect.
Mike Wright
That is a lot of respect because the Lions are not only a great team in their own right, but they are in a desperately must win situation here. With a win, their playoff odds are 75%. It's like, okay, we're, we're, we're going to. With a loss, it's 40%. So this is, this is really, really important for their chances of playing in the postseason.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And it's a huge over under. A lot of fantasy goodness to be had in this game. I mean, I, we've already talked about Jared Goff, who's Jason start of the week. I believe you said you have Matthew Stafford at 2 on the week. So these are your.
Mike Wright
I want this game. I mean, this is, this is one where you just expect the offenses to get it done. Despite good defenses on both sides of the ball. The. Over the course of the season, these two teams have been in a lot of those barn burner matchups. Those, those large scoring, you know, total high over under. What? That beats the over under. I mean, so far this year there's been one game that was this year. This is the first game that is possible to have a 55 point over under. And they tend to go very well. So yeah, I would like to play just about every piece in this game.
Jason Moore
Don't we have two this week?
Andy Holloway
Two what?
Jason Moore
Or is the other one 52 and a half? What one did we talk about yesterday? Because there was one.
Andy Holloway
Not this high.
Jason Moore
It was the Ravens. Bengals. Ravens. Bengals. How high is that one? It's at 51 and a half. Okay, okay. And this one's at 54 and a half right now. I mean, this is not a complicated game because you. You have two teams that have injured tight ends. So even more of a consolidation into the wide receiver rooms where you feel really comfortable going beyond the superstars. Amon Ra, Jameson Williams. I mean, after the bye week, Jameson's been wide receiver eight on the year. Puka Devante, they're both in. You're playing the running backs, and then you look at David Montgomery and Blake Corum there. I'll give you a decision there. If you had to play Montgomery or Corum. I think I might play Corum.
Mike Wright
I would play Corum. Oh, man, these are two. Both good rush defenses. I would lean Montgomery, but to be. To be. To be completely frank and honest, I would. I would like to play neither one of these players. I think that there are other guys out there that might be near this tier that I would prefer to play. You know, if I had Devin Neal, Kyle Menung guy, those type of players, Chris Rodriguez, I would play all those over either Corum or Montgomery.
Jason Moore
I. Tony Pollard. I think Corum's good for 10 to 12 touches. It's just a matter of. Does he. I mean, last week was Arizona Tony Pollard.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Last week was Arizona, Tony Pollard. Terrible.
Andy Holloway
Don't. Don't dodge my question.
Mike Wright
So to answer. To answer Mike's question, this week is not Arizona. It's the Lions that they play, and they're top three against running back.
Andy Holloway
Are you going to play Tony Pollard? Are you going to play one of those other guys?
Mike Wright
Did you have a question, Andy, as I have? I have. I have answered what I am prepared to answer here.
Jason Moore
I've given you as much time as possible.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah, no, I took.
Jason Moore
I know you're doing.
Mike Wright
I need no more. I need no more time. So what other big decisions are there?
Jason Moore
I don't think there are any in that game. That's the big one.
Andy Holloway
The Tony Pollard one.
Jason Moore
The Tony Pollard one's the last big question from the game. You don't play Tony Pollard.
Andy Holloway
We need your best here, Jason.
Mike Wright
This is my best, Michael. This is what you get.
Jason Moore
This is good for Josh Jacobs.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I mean, I hope he misses another practice today. Tony Pollard is a running back for Tennessee.
Jason Moore
Tell me more. Tell me more.
Mike Wright
He's the running back to last week.
Jason Moore
Corum was three.
Mike Wright
I'd go. I'd go. I'd go.
Andy Holloway
Tony Pollard. I would, too.
Jason Moore
Carolina in the driver's seat for the division right now, taking on the Saints. A good chance to win a Ball game and get to 8 and 6. The Saints are 3 and 10. Carolina two and a half point road favorites.
Andy Holloway
Over.
Jason Moore
Under is just 40 and a half. Okay, here we go. Carolina. I mean look at the matchups the rest of the way. New Orleans this week, Tampa, Seattle. Tampa.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's a, it's a tough end of the year for them, but they control their own destiny. Now that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost last night, technically they are currently in first. If they win this game, they will definitely be solidly still in first.
Jason Moore
I've got the scenarios. They clinch if they beat New Orleans and then beat Tampa Bay one time.
Mike Wright
Wow. So big game.
Jason Moore
Otherwise they need some help if they, if they end up splitting with Tampa Bay and not winning this game against New Orleans, but basically just like win against New Orleans this week and beat Tampa one of the times.
Andy Holloway
Wow.
Jason Moore
And you are in the play, Carolina. You know, it's crazy because I'm like, I'm thinking last night about Grizzard, right. He's the third offensive coordinator Baker's had in three years. You've got Duvall who is going to the playoffs, you know, in Jacksonville, and then you've got Canales on the cusp of the playoffs like both of those offense and he could miss it. Tampa could miss it.
Andy Holloway
They could.
Jason Moore
Tyler Shock, he's kind of playing well. Yeah, he should have started with him.
Mike Wright
Yeah, for sure. He's been running the ball well this last week. He had two rushing touchdowns, 55 yards. I don't know that you can really play him here. This is a divisional matchup that I'm actually excited to watch.
Andy Holloway
He put up 19 points on the road against this defense.
Mike Wright
I mean, if you're in a two quarterback league, he's certainly in consideration. But I don't believe in the playoffs you're going to be looking for Tyler Schuck in a single.
Andy Holloway
I can agree, I agree with that. But he is, he is one of the guys I'll be watching this weekend.
Mike Wright
Over the last six weeks, the Panthers are number six in fewest fantasy points given up to the quarterback position. The matchup, the divisional low over, under, low over under. It's just not a game script. I want a lot of pieces in which makes it like so Devin Neal, Chris Olave, those are guys that have been important recently and you're just hoping that maybe it can be a little bit more offensive than, you know, what the over under anticipates.
Jason Moore
John Johnson won't goose. Yeah. He might not win your week like Kyle Pitts could, but Joanne Johnson would be an option if you need a pivot if the Ferguson situation is happening. Like a Ferguson missed. Yeah, he's a emergency pivot. How are you feeling about the running backs in Carolina? Rico Dowdle, they kind of recommitted to him and said, hey, you're still our guy. Chuba Hubbard had the big game. I was last week. Right. I mean, he was running back eight last week. Are you playing both players?
Andy Holloway
I think both are definitely in play. Rico, two weeks ago they had the bi week. If I the heads up. Oh, man. I think it might be Chuba if it's heads up. But I don't feel. I don't feel really confident deciding between two of them, but because I. It really will be Hot Hand. Chuba is a good player. He should see, you know, more receiving work. The receiving work will be, but it's not that Dowdle's not getting those.
Mike Wright
They both basically. I mean, they shared work. They had similar snap percentages last week. They both had plenty of opportunity. I'm going to go with the player who has been more dominant on the field, which has been Rico this year.
Jason Moore
The number five question on our start sit tool. So the most popular question is Devin Neal or Rico Dowdle in this game?
Mike Wright
Yeah, that one makes. That one makes sense. Eileen towards Devon Neal. 17 opportunities per game since the week.
Jason Moore
11 by you lean Devon, Eileen Dowdle.
Andy Holloway
Mike, where do you lean Eileen, Devon Neal over the last six weeks, the Panthers are 27th against running backs.
Jason Moore
There's also a Rico Dowdle, Kenneth Walker. The third question that's near the top.
Andy Holloway
Of the Ken Bone.
Jason Moore
It was rough last week.
Andy Holloway
It's been.
Jason Moore
That's the Indianapolis matchup. I think I'm with Jason on that.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I think the matchup like second, if it goes the way I think it's going to go, then the second half, it'll just be trying to waste that clock.
Jason Moore
Teterom McMillan. Yeah, back at it this week. Back into your lineup.
Andy Holloway
It is a tougher matchup. This is what we mean about the Saints defense is you look at the Saints, you go, well, that team stinks. They're 3 and 10 on the season. Third against fantasy quarterbacks, second against fantasy wide receivers.
Jason Moore
This game was 17 to 7 the first time they played and I would not be shocked if it was very similar. 17 to 10, 20 to 13, something, you know.
Mike Wright
Yeah, totally. This is divisional and we brought it up yesterday. Both of these defenses are surprisingly better than what like the populace believes about them.
Jason Moore
The Titans, fresh off a W2 and 11 take on the San Francisco 49ers who are nine and four. Vegas line. San Francisco minus 12 and a half.
Mike Wright
Whoa.
Jason Moore
Over under 44 and a half. San Francisco right now the sixth seat in the NFC. They get to finish the year against Tennessee, Indianapolis and Philip Rivers. The Bears at home and the Seahawks at home. In a game where I don't know if it'll matter for Seattle or not, but they could move up them in. Seattle are 5 and 6 in the NFC right now. Tennessee sitting at dead last in point differential. Tied for. Man, they are pacing to be tied for the second worst over the last decade.
Andy Holloway
Nice.
Jason Moore
And yet they still don't have the number one pick now. Because they chose to win.
Andy Holloway
They chose to win.
Jason Moore
It is. It is. Do I want to have this discussion? Oh, it is. It's just a funny thing because the sports world is evolving into analytics. Right? It's like, ah, analytics rule the day. And I. Sometimes I like it, sometimes I don't. I think it's a little bit weird. You know, you listen to Sean Payton. He's going to go gut more than analytics is what he said. But if you want to apply analytics to your team when you're eliminated from the playoffs, analytics says go lose, and we act like it doesn't.
Andy Holloway
That is very funny.
Jason Moore
And I know the intangibles of working hard and building camaraderie, and those are immeasurable. And I, I'm not saying you should lose. I don't think that's in the spirit of competition, blah, blah, blah. But really, if you just want to be analytics, dude, it's like the second year eliminated. Lose every game you can to get the best pick.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
That's the real best path to a championship. From a roster construction perspective, that's really the best thing to do.
Mike Wright
And I think the Titans are going to do it well this week.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I guess that's. That's fair enough. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Andy Holloway
Oh, breaking news.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think it. I mean, I think it's breaking news.
Mike Wright
Breaking news.
Andy Holloway
Jason's nodding like he knows what it is.
Mike Wright
No, I don't know.
Jason Moore
T. Higgins. Not at Friday's practice.
Andy Holloway
Oh, okay. I mean, we did. You threw it out at the beginning of like, he was limited again. That seems like on pace.
Jason Moore
He ran up the hill.
Andy Holloway
It's still.
Mike Wright
He did.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, the. The T. Higgins Hill watch. He did run and he looked at.
Jason Moore
The camera and everything.
Andy Holloway
The problem is now he is aware of our analysis of how he handles the hill. So it, like it's all. It's Tampered. We dove experiment is over.
Jason Moore
We dove knee deep into his contract. Like most. Most players have a smaller active roster bonus per game. T. Higgins is up at. He's had 2 million over the year, so it's like 111,000 per game, but obviously to play. To play. Just to be active. Actually.
Mike Wright
He can technically not play percentage of the snaps.
Jason Moore
He can technically just be active on the roster and not play, but. Yeah, but again, it's up to the. You know, the team to clear him from a concussion.
Andy Holloway
I still don't. This is how he plays.
Jason Moore
This is. Maybe he's not playing.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
Cam Ward. Brock Purdy facing off Tony Pollard last week. I would ignore that as much as you can personally. Tony Pollard is creating a. I mean, it's incredible how many snaps and how inefficient he was for the entire year. One game against Cleveland with a 65 yard run. Just don't get too caught up in it. That's all I'm saying. This is not a. This is not a situation where I think you're going to see a team. They were in the lead in that game.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's. That was what it was. I mean, you look at his carries. 10 carries, 11 carries, 10 carries, 25 carries. What's the difference? Despite the massive point differential and they're usually down every snap, every play. Every game. They won that game. They were up. They were like, hey, dude, check this out. We get to hand the ball off. This is what we wish we could do. It's not happening in this game against San Francisco.
Jason Moore
No. San Francisco will be ahead. You'll see Tajie Spears out there. There's just not. There's no options on Tennessee that I want. None.
Mike Wright
I don't think there's a single player that I would play. I mean, I know I said I would play Pollard. Over.
Andy Holloway
Over backups.
Mike Wright
Yeah, over backups.
Jason Moore
But I play Devin Neal. I play Kareem Hunt. I play Chuba Hubbard. I play Chris Rodriguez. I play Devin Singletary. Yeah, I'd play.
Mike Wright
Yeah, and we'd play.
Jason Moore
But maybe Bam Knight.
Mike Wright
We'd play some 49ers. We, you know, Kittle will be in. I think Brock Purdy is a good start. There's. There are, you know, a couple of quarterbacks this week that have those dreadful matchups, you know, you got here with Brissette, you know, and who's been. He hasn't. Not been a top 12 guy. I would play Brock Purdy over Brissette.
Andy Holloway
I would, too.
Jason Moore
And Juwan Jennings is The you could do worse than Juwan Jenn situation. He's been inside the top 24, but not inside the top 20. Right. He scores. The yardage has been really low. 54, 41, 39 the last three weeks.
Mike Wright
I mean, his fantasy points have been fine. Obviously that's touchdown related, but that's. You're pretty much always getting over 10 fantasy points, most often with him.
Jason Moore
The comments on Ricky Pierce law, in case you're curious. Clay Kubiak saying, it's circumstantial. Every game's different because he's only five catches on 20 targets since returning. In the Arizona game, we targeted him a lot. It's situational. He's not doing anything wrong. He's practicing his butt off five, which is what Andrews did.
Andy Holloway
It's five catches for 20 yards.
Jason Moore
Oh, five for 20. I'm sorry. George Kittle. Four plus receptions in six straight games. Play him. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Andy Holloway
This game's pretty easy.
Jason Moore
Oh, my.
Mike Wright
CTV, here we go.
Jason Moore
The Colts at 8 and 5, the Seahawks at 10 and 3. Seahawks by 13 and a half according to Vegas. Over under 42. This is the like fourth or 15 this week with like a 16 or lower implied point total. Indianapolis with 14 and a half implied points.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. Get bodied.
Jason Moore
It's the largest spread for the Seahawks over the last five years. The largest of Sam Darnold's career in terms of him being a favorite. Seahawks with 28 implied points. And P. River and company.
Mike Wright
Can I tell you how our Sunday goes?
Jason Moore
Sure.
Mike Wright
We're going to get to the afternoon games as soon as the witching hour is over and we're going to say, hey, I want to throw. I want to throw the Colts Seahawks game up on our main screen. Yeah, it's pivot from the red zone. I want to watch every snap. About six minutes later we will change back to red zone and go. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Jason Moore
The prize picks projections on Philip Rivers, which I confirmed. None of us have him in the segment later. More or less. 152.5 passing yards.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Jason Moore
0.5 passing touchdowns.
Andy Holloway
Jason's projection was 200.
Jason Moore
200 and a 7.5 fantasy score.
Mike Wright
Oh, wow. Wow. Gross. It is worth noting the half a touchdown line, which is as low as you can go. They literally can't go below a half. Is a goblin, which means it is.
Andy Holloway
The red one, right?
Mike Wright
Yes. A demon, not a goblin. That means it is difficult for him to get one of those.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I. Look, I don't like Jonathan Taylor in this game. I'm just. I don't like him at all.
Andy Holloway
And you have to.
Jason Moore
Okay, I don't like him at all.
Andy Holloway
Where.
Jason Moore
I know where his. You want to know where his projection is? Spoiler alert, he's in my lineup. Later. All right.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
71.
Mike Wright
Oh, you're taking.
Andy Holloway
I just was saying, is there any world where you're willing to play someone else over.
Jason Moore
No.
Andy Holloway
Him.
Mike Wright
No.
Jason Moore
No. Because it's one big play if Tony Pollard can. One big play. Jonathan Taylor's not leaving my lineup. But I mean, the Seahawks on the year, great against running backs. Better over the last six weeks. You know what you do to stop P. River? 37 guys in the box. No. Legitimately. You stack the box. You play close to the line of scrimmage, you make him throw the ball more than four yards and you put it all on that right shoulder and what's left of it.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Jason would love to disagree.
Mike Wright
I want to say he would love to disagree. I still see that.
Andy Holloway
What happened to the man of hope?
Mike Wright
He's thought more, he's had more time.
Andy Holloway
Emotion has worn off.
Mike Wright
And now theory, logic has ran through stupid rational brains and been urinated out into P. River.
Jason Moore
Yes.
Mike Wright
The hope here is that you do get hollow PPR value from some of these players. That you can get four or five dump offs, that, you know, maybe they won't be a ton of yardage, but if you're a PPR to Jonathan Taylor, to Michael Pittman, I still think, you know, and even Tyler Warren, that the passing attempts, I mean, look, they're projected to lose by almost two touchdowns. So maybe Philip Rivers doesn't get to 200 yards, but he might still throw the ball 35, 40 times. And if they're Dink and Dunks, I think PPR value is what you're hoping for.
Andy Holloway
Jordan.
Jason Moore
I don't disagree. I think that's your path.
Andy Holloway
Jordan Addison against Dallas or anyone on the Colts. Addison Luther Burden against Cleveland.
Jason Moore
Burden? Unless you're talking about Warren. Are you talking about Warren?
Andy Holloway
I guess not. Just not the tight end position. Jaden Reed against Denver.
Jason Moore
I'm sorry, I have to break in.
Andy Holloway
Oh.
Jason Moore
Philip Rivers, oldest kid is older than Tyler Warren.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I knew that. Yeah.
Jason Moore
He is a grandpa.
Mike Wright
He is. He is literally a grandpa. This is Grandpa Rivers.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Not like a joke Grandpa.
Jason Moore
No. Grandpa Rivers is what you would call him, right?
Mike Wright
Officially. Officially. That's why. Well, his grandchildren, that's what he would call.
Jason Moore
Sorry, Mike.
Mike Wright
I'm so definite.
Jason Moore
I'm playing Isaiah likely over Tyler Warren. What?
Mike Wright
Percentage chance?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
What percentage chance. Be realistic, but be Real. Could Philip Rivers come out here and with a quality team, a decent offensive line. Josh Downs, Michael Pittman, Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor.
Jason Moore
Here's the roster.
Andy Holloway
I got it.
Mike Wright
What percentage of chance could he come out, throw for more than 250 and win the game?
Jason Moore
Write it down, Mike.
Andy Holloway
Oh, okay.
Jason Moore
250 and win the game. Write your percentage down for Jason. He needs to. He may add our percentages together to help this out.
Mike Wright
I've got mine. Oh, look at that. 3, 4, 5.
Jason Moore
Jason's down to 4%. I'm at 5%. Philip Rivers, lover and Jason.
Mike Wright
This is where when news breaks of a trade, we talk about it during the season. Trade on the hype. Okay, there was no hype. No, there was no.
Jason Moore
It was you.
Mike Wright
That's what I'm saying. I was hyped. You can't trade with yourself. No, no, no. This isn't about trading. My point is, I was like, 200 yards is guaranteed. I bet you $100 that he'd be over 200 yards because Philip Rivers is coming. He's got. And so I was hyped. And so you just. When you pounce on the news right when it's coming out and you don't have time to think, you're just hopeful. Some guy signs, some guy gets traded, that's when you pounce. Because a couple days later you might.
Jason Moore
Go, ah, I wish I had a mirror to hold up right now.
Andy Holloway
There was one person who was.
Mike Wright
That's all it takes in every league. If someone's hyped for, say, Amari Cooper getting traded to the Bills and wants to give you. I'm. I am saying this is. This is what I'm talking to myself, obviously here. I'm saying.
Andy Holloway
But I'm saying you need at least one other person who's hyped.
Mike Wright
Andy didn't. He made $100 bet. I mean, well, yeah, one. You only need one. You need one.
Jason Moore
I am going to make a hundred dollars off of this.
Mike Wright
Yeah, 200. Yeah, 200.
Jason Moore
Because I already sent you the 100. Let's take a break, and then we'll get into a very exciting matchup.
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Jason Moore
Before we, before we went to break, we talked a lot about Indianapolis. We did not talk about the Seattle side. I don't want to like. It's fairly straightforward because JSN has been the only wide receiver you can start. Ken Walker you talked about earlier, but I just, I don't want to completely omit them in an important week.
Andy Holloway
I guess that's a good point.
Jason Moore
Sam Darnold is startable to me. Ken Walker flex JSN must start and then AJ Barner's your emergency tight end.
Andy Holloway
I can. I think that there is a sneaky world where Charbs is in play here too for multi touchdown opportunity.
Mike Wright
When we were looking at the. David. I have David Montgomery and Charbs on my league of record team and I am. If I. If I am forced to play one of those two, I will play Charbs over. Over David Montgomery. But the question is, would you play Charbs or David Montgomery over Michael Pittman with the. With PPR utilization?
Jason Moore
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I think I would.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
I just.
Andy Holloway
I'm not going out like that. I'm not going out with Philip Rivers.
Mike Wright
Philip Rivers can't hurt me if I don't play Pittman. I mean, he still can with Jonathan Taylor. Dag it. This is going to be a tough week.
Jason Moore
Let's just. Let's just help the Foot Clan out. You've got Jonathan Taylor and Michael Pittman and you are playing both currently.
Mike Wright
I do not believe so I think I'm going to play Charbonnet.
Jason Moore
Over Pittman.
Mike Wright
You have both in the flex. I've got all of them. I guess looking at my roster, I am going to have to play Michael Pittman. Dag gum it.
Jason Moore
You're double.
Andy Holloway
I mean double.
Jason Moore
Why not just stay delusional?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I should have. I should. Philip, you're so Great.
Jason Moore
Green Bay 93 and 1. Denver 11 and 2.
Mike Wright
Roma Dunes A. Roma Dunes A plays this week. You playing Rome who hasn't scored jack squat.
Jason Moore
Yep.
Andy Holloway
With a broken foot.
Mike Wright
With a broken foot. You're playing him over Pittman.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I think so.
Jason Moore
We're both agree.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. This is.
Andy Holloway
Hey, it's your. We saw the foot. We're trying to help you make the best decisions that you can make for your team. It's your team.
Mike Wright
Thank goodness. CDs back.
Andy Holloway
We built this city.
Jason Moore
Green Bay, Denver, Vegas line. Green Bay -2 and a half on the road over under 42 and a half. Green Bay is just playing really well. And the return of Watson, now Jaden.
Andy Holloway
Reed, it's helped a lot.
Jason Moore
I'm going to say a bunch of stuff. It's not about you, Jason. But the best thing for Green Bay is to make sure they're playoff ready.
Mike Wright
So that means getting Josh Jacobs the work and get him, you know, in game shape. What is happening?
Jason Moore
Packers have won four straight. December is a great month. Month for Matt LaFleur. They're favorite on the road in Denver. I mean, this is. This is a lot of respect to what Green Bay's got going on right now and the fact that Denver's been. They're 11 and 2, but they've been really up and down. So you know, the Broncos record wise is amazing. They've won a bunch of games in a row. They are dominating the one score games. They've played close games. Do you have a take on this one, Mike, on who wins this ball game?
Andy Holloway
I think Green Bay wins.
Jason Moore
Jordan Love's been a top 12 quarterback in three or four weeks. Bo Nix right now sitting at quarterback eight on the season despite only one top 12 performance since week nine. A lot of people drafted Bo Nix with the plan of making him an every week starter. Those plans have changed. Mike. You're not living that life anymore.
Andy Holloway
I would pivot like I would be, you know, Lawrence, let's see. I mean Stroud against Arizona, I would probably consider doing that. Mariota against the Giants, I would strongly consider that as well.
Mike Wright
Green Bay's Mario Mariota is a very good play.
Andy Holloway
Green Bay's defense, it's like, it's like the Philly defense is just. It is terrifying to your guy could go out, you just, you get the one performance against that defense of the year. But in the game of probability, I will go with someone else.
Jason Moore
The wild thing is that Denver and New England are both at home, both fighting for the one seed in the AFC and both underdogs at home. So you know the teams that the Broncos have played and won against Davis, Mills and Geno twice and Mariota and Fields, there's been some easy ones in there.
Andy Holloway
The Broncos are a weird team.
Jason Moore
They are. They're a good team. A good defense.
Andy Holloway
They are RJ Harvey. The offense can be very good. It's just it ebbs and flows throughout. You don't get four quarters.
Jason Moore
I don't know why you don't get. You don't have one game where they come out and score 57 points or something crazy.
Mike Wright
Honestly, I think RJ Harvey's literally the only player I want to play and that includes Cortland Sutton. Cortland Sutton has scored 10 fantasy points twice in the last two months and now they're playing against a team that has been, you know, on the course of the season. The packers are top 10 against quarterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends. Over the last six weeks they've gotten better. Their top five against them.
Jason Moore
So you're not going to have Pat Bryant.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I mean that. I would imagine that doesn't really have an effect on.
Jason Moore
Pretty much agree with you as. And I think Harvey, Harvey's A little bit riskier than he seems this week.
Andy Holloway
I think Harvey is scary, but he's the over under.
Jason Moore
It's 42. I mean, this, man, this game could be. This could be a dog fight.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Two great favorites.
Jason Moore
Two quarterbacks at each throw for one touchdown. And Jacobs, I think the line is perfect.
Mike Wright
42 and a half. That seems like.
Jason Moore
Are you playing Emmanuel Wilson if Jacobs is out?
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Even though it's Denver number one in the last six weeks against running backs.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I still would. When. When Jacobs was out, we saw Wilson get an extreme amount of volume and he's played well with it. So if Jacobs doesn't play, I mean, I will be playing against Wilson, but you can play Wilson if you want.
Jason Moore
Corum in his current situation or Emmanuel Wilson by himself.
Mike Wright
Oh, definitely Wilson.
Andy Holloway
And a reminder, this is the afternoon game, so if you're. Sunday morning, you know, when we send out our. What do we call this? The Sunday morning updates of, like the game alert.
Mike Wright
The game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Thank you. Game day alerts Sunday live.
Jason Moore
How you doing back there, Al? You doing good?
Mike Wright
I'm doing all right.
Jason Moore
Nice.
Andy Holloway
We won't know. We may not know 100% if Josh Jacobs is playing. So you better have an afternoon or Sunday night, Monday night pivot or just go pick up Emmanuel Wilson.
Jason Moore
Christian Watson has been on fire.
Mike Wright
So easy, Mike. How you just pick up Emmanuel Wilson?
Jason Moore
Oh, you can't do that.
Mike Wright
No, because my opponent has them.
Andy Holloway
I. We're at like six weeks of me every.
Mike Wright
At least once a week going pick.
Andy Holloway
Up your insurance running backs right now. You didn't try very hard.
Mike Wright
Apparently not hard enough.
Jason Moore
This is.
Andy Holloway
You thought you really.
Jason Moore
This is like an exposure therapy thing going on for Jason right now. He is in the. This is the hardest show you've ever.
Mike Wright
Had to do, ever.
Jason Moore
It looks like you were just barely making it through.
Mike Wright
I need to lose this week as I can't handle this over with.
Andy Holloway
Kill me like I have. I have Samaj P. Ryan on my bench, Jason, because I have Chase Brown.
Mike Wright
Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. Not everyone has had to deal with as many, you know, injuries and problems and have to use their bench. You've had a pretty easy, easy path. Not all of us have.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, I think those are the main players in this game. Jaden Reed. I'm still keeping my eye on Jaden Reed. I really am.
Andy Holloway
I need. I need to see.
Jason Moore
He was only 47% of the time out there. Got four catch.
Andy Holloway
That's normal for him.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it is, but it's also normal to consider playing him. I mean the past two years, wide receiver 23 and 26. So you're getting lots of fantasy relevant games from Jaden Reed when he's healthy and active.
Andy Holloway
When, when he.
Jason Moore
And now no Josh Jacobs. I'm telling you, Jaden Reed is going to surprise this time.
Andy Holloway
When Jaden Reed spikes, it is weak winning type stuff. But it's, he's all, he's, he's. I mean he's a D in the consistency. So always 35% of his games he's over 10 and a half points. So 35% of the time around that he gives you a week. Really. Holy crap. Jaden Reed really helped me win. But then the majority of the time you. Well, I lost because Jaden Reed so.
Jason Moore
Close to making him a touchdown guarantee.
Andy Holloway
In this one, dude.
Jason Moore
But that's not what I'm. It's just a, it's a tough game. Sunday night football Minnesota Dallas. Minnesota five and eight. Dallas six, six and one. Hanging on for dear life. Dallas minus five and a half over under 48 and a half. Dallas Cowboy games have averaged 59 combined points per game.
Andy Holloway
Delicious.
Jason Moore
And eight of the last 10 have hit the over. That's because they don't have a defense and they do have an offense and those work well. We know CD Lamb is going to be back in this game. For the love of everyone's mental health. Jj Throw to jj.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah. I made it my start of the week.
Jason Moore
Throw it to him.
Mike Wright
I made it my start of the week. This is a team that, you know, against wide receivers has, has given it up every single week. Justin Jefferson, I. They don't, you know, he came out. It's like we don't care about fantasy. We care about winning and that, that's great and dandy. But I know you care about your stats. I know you don't like people complaining about participating. Yeah. You don't want to be out there doing nothing. So I think the fact that he's done very little the last two weeks, they're going to try to get him the ball on some easy stuff and against an easy defense, he'll do special stuff.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yep. Javante on the other side is the RB7 on the year. It's. It's kind of wild to look back and see what he's done. His numbers have come down since mostly since CD Lamb's been healthy and they've had the receiving game. But if there's no Jake Ferguson, maybe they lean a little bit more on Javante.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, possible.
Jason Moore
Still been in the double digit averages since week nine. What do you do with the running backs for Minnesota? Because I. I've had some people ask me questions about Aaron Jones. I've pretty much chosen somebody else.
Andy Holloway
It stinks because you should. Aaron Jones should be a must play in this type of a matchup where they've been better against running backs. But just. I mean you. What was it? 59. When it. When a game is averaging. In a game environment is averaging 59 points. You just. You want everybody in there.
Mike Wright
But it's usually in the passing game. Especially since the trade deadline when they, When Dallas beefed up their. Their D line. They have not.
Andy Holloway
Jerry got that one right.
Mike Wright
They have not been a sieve on the ground, but they. They did not fix the secondary. So. Yeah, I don't think I want to play Jordan Mason or, or Aaron Jones.
Andy Holloway
And Aaron Jones Ltd. Wednesday and Thursday with the shoulder. He's kind of been getting hurt a lot in game. Not, you know, not enough to just completely take him out, but it is a concern.
Jason Moore
Man. Jj, it's time to go. You need JJ this week because you need Dallas to need to score.
Mike Wright
I need CD Lamb with two touchdowns.
Jason Moore
This is the way other starts hit decisions in this game.
Mike Wright
There's not much. I mean, I don't think you're playing Hawkins despite getting a touchdown last week. You're not banking on that. Ferguson, if he plays otherwise have a pivot.
Jason Moore
Monday Night football, guys. Miami six and seven against Philadelphia. Pittsburgh seven and six. Vegas line. Pittsburgh minus three over one over under is 41 and a half.
Andy Holloway
Oh. Oh, yeah.
Mike Wright
Andy's almost upset of the week.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Just feels right.
Andy Holloway
We need to.
Mike Wright
This is.
Andy Holloway
This is for Joe Burrow. Our man is down. The mental Joe Burrow is in a. Joe Burrow could be in a dark place right now. We need the Steelers to lose. We need any ounce of hope that Joe Burrow can have in his life. Sorry, Steelers.
Jason Moore
Miami. Miami's been playing well. They've been getting it done. Devon Hn will play in this game. I don't even know who the Steelers are. I think sometimes. Sometimes they're okay. Sometimes they look all right. We got news yesterday that TJ Watt was in the hospital.
Mike Wright
He's not going to play this week.
Jason Moore
He's not?
Mike Wright
No. Yesterday Tomlin was saying he's not sure. Today, breaking news.
Andy Holloway
Green Bay packers head coach Matt LaFleur says Josh Jacobs, he's will. Will play football practice in a limited capacity on Friday.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. Everything is not enough. Everything just. Just Just put the man in, give him like 30 to 50 carries. You got to keep them warm. You don't want that thing to tighten up.
Andy Holloway
This is my favorite bit of the season. Just getting to do this to chase.
Jason Moore
It's so much fun.
Mike Wright
Today's the last day you get. Well, it's probably not. Oh, my gosh. It's not Sunday morning every day.
Andy Holloway
Never read.
Mike Wright
Oh, my God.
Jason Moore
Do you want to do Sunday live this week?
Mike Wright
No, I can't. I couldn't do it. Mike's fine. Mike's like on by everywhere. He's going to come in here.
Andy Holloway
You were, hey, everybody, what a great week.
Jason Moore
You were in the middle of updating the T.J. watt injury situation.
Mike Wright
Yeah. So everything that is coming out most recently is that it would be darn near impossible for him to play. He's still currently hospitalized with a long issue. We don't know a lot of the details. There's, there's speculation right now, but most of the doctors I've seen speculate, including, you know, the former San Diego medical trainer. He, he does not, does not anticipate that he could play this week.
Andy Holloway
He didn't get tie rotted, did he?
Mike Wright
No, I think that that was because he was asked kind of that question and it was that he does not think that that is what's going on.
Andy Holloway
If you do not remember, like punctured his lungs. The. I mean, years ago when Justin Herbert was drafted in the first round and not starting right away, Taylor had to get.
Mike Wright
He was hurt.
Jason Moore
He was named the starter.
Andy Holloway
He was hurt as, as Taylor always is, but he was trying to numb up and he took a shot to the lung. He took a shot to the lung and it punctured and deflated his lung.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I think the speculation that was a physical shot. Yeah. Not. And also to be clear, not from a gun, but like from a needle.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Well, when you say a shot, I mean that's like language.
Andy Holloway
Like an injection.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that was like language for getting hit.
Andy Holloway
Oh, sorry. No, he get injection.
Jason Moore
No, he got an injection.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that. Yeah.
Jason Moore
So this sounded like a practice oriented thing. How do you feel about Warren? How do you feel about Gainwell? How do you feel about Metcalfe? He's my start of the week. You know how I feel. I want to know how you feel.
Andy Holloway
The Dolphins on the season are right in the middle of the pack, but the last six weeks they have been stingy against the running back position. Second.
Jason Moore
But I was playing so hard. They're head coach.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. The Dolphins really are. They're trying to win, they're getting after it. But I think that both Warren and Gainwell are still in play. I lean Warren, but not by a huge margin.
Jason Moore
If the Steelers win, their playoff probability goes to 72%. Miami can get their win probability up to 1% with a win. Did you talk about DK?
Andy Holloway
No, I did not.
Jason Moore
Jason, do you have thoughts on DK?
Mike Wright
I mean, obviously, yeah, that was the huge thing. 12 targets. He hadn't been double digit targets this entire season, which is kind of mind blowing that you've paid $150 million for a guy with no other great receiving options behind.
Jason Moore
How to work out for the Steelers to give him. Oh, they won.
Mike Wright
It worked out. It worked out great. And you want to know why that happened? We talked about it a couple of times. There's teams you don't play tight ends against. Okay. And one of those was the Baltimore Ravens. And Arthur Smith was pissed.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he was.
Mike Wright
So he's like, I've got so many tight ends and they're so big. We should only throw to tight ends. And they're like, you can't throw tight ends against Baltimore. All right, we'll throw to Metcalf. But this week, this week they're playing a team that can, that can be exploited at tight end.
Andy Holloway
And Darnell Washington is in the concussion protocol.
Mike Wright
Yeah. So Johnny and Pat Fryer, Muth.
Andy Holloway
I'll say it for dfs because I don't think I have the courage in a redraft situation. But the Muth could get loose this weekend.
Mike Wright
And John, new revenge game here.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah, you.
Mike Wright
So I think Metcalf is what he has been prior to last week, which is an okay, fine start who could get a touchdown.
Andy Holloway
But I don't expect they unlock something.
Mike Wright
I don't think that they're going to give him double digit targets. Yeah, I'm fine playing him. He had a bad game last week, but that was very situational. He was still out there running routes. And then they started basically running the ball a lot as they were up trying to secure that victory. This week, the matchup is okay. Next week he gets Cincinnati, I believe, right?
Andy Holloway
I believe that's correct. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Which is. It's great.
Andy Holloway
I mean, that is correct.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Jason Moore
Brady Cook is starting for the Jets. Injury update for you. Start your Jags defense.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Mason Taylor has been ruled out for week 15.
Andy Holloway
Gotta spend the night at the vet.
Jason Moore
I. Look, they don't, they don't have anything. It makes Breeze Hall a really, really terrifying start.
Mike Wright
Yes, sir. I think Breeze Is in for tough sledding.
Jason Moore
Marvin Harrison officially ruled out. So Arizona will not have Marvin Harrison.
Andy Holloway
Jerry Rice will be on the field.
Jason Moore
I'm really quite okay playing Michael Wilson. Playing Michael Wilson. I think it'll be all right. It doesn't. He can do enough fantasy wise, even without Brissette throwing touchdowns. You know what I mean?
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
Like he could be 8 for 89 or something like that. And, you know, they do have to possess the football. I'm okay with him.
Mike Wright
I've got him at wide receiver 24 right now, which is like, it's not a must start, but it's definitely someone that, you know you're in the top 20.
Jason Moore
Any other breaking Josh Jacobs news. Can we please get some more?
Mike Wright
Don't say those two words together.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
Okay. Any other healing Josh Jacobs news quote.
Andy Holloway
Is it sounds like he's feeling pretty good.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they did say that.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And this is all like he'd be playing. He's going to be great.
Jason Moore
It's a swelling of the knee issue is what it is.
Andy Holloway
It sounds like he's feeling pretty good. Lafleur did add. We'll see how he feels after the workout.
Mike Wright
He's going to feel great, man. Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs. We just saw two meows go. You know, we're not playing them. My heel hurts. My. Probably tummy. I don't know. My tail. Josh Jacobs a dog. Okay. Josh Jacobs going to play and play hard and play well and play with.
Andy Holloway
Plenty of work because yesterday's day off was so good for him.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah. He's well rested.
Jason Moore
Tldr Jacobs is active. Jason's starting it.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Fantasy Face off presented by Prize Picks.
Jason Moore
Well, it's been a cold streak, boys. I'm getting shamed again.
Andy Holloway
It happens.
Mike Wright
Wheel of shame. Oh, boy.
Jason Moore
Spin the stupid wheel.
Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
Deucers Delight.
Jason Moore
Daft.
Andy Holloway
Daft.
Mike Wright
Daft Loser. What is a daft?
Jason Moore
I think this is a Daft punk reference.
Mike Wright
Okay, let's see. He's got a helmet and is this like a.
Andy Holloway
You got a shiesty over there.
Mike Wright
Oh, is that. Those got names?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
A sheisty.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Mike Wright
Oh, okay.
Andy Holloway
But his is for the costume.
Mike Wright
Okay. He's putting on his little shiesty, which I would have called a ski mask. And now looks like. Oh, this is. This is great. This is a lot more fun. Oh. Oh.
Jason Moore
All right.
Mike Wright
Party time. Very nice.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Jason Moore
Well, this is gonna be fun.
Mike Wright
Can you see through that?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Okay. All Right. Well, then kick it off.
Jason Moore
Can you hear me?
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
No, we got you.
Jason Moore
Quarterback.
Mike Wright
Josh Allen.
Andy Holloway
What's his projection?
Jason Moore
20.5 passing completions. I'm taking the more.
Mike Wright
Okay, okay, okay. I'm going with a. Pass attempts For Jared Goff, 33 and a half past attempts. I think in that huge over under game, it will go more than that.
Andy Holloway
I got the surging. Maybe things are going to turn out okay. Trevor Lawrence, one and a half passing touchdowns. Oh, more.
Jason Moore
I thought about that one.
Mike Wright
Please be too ETN I.
Andy Holloway
Whatever. As long as there's two, we're okay.
Mike Wright
Get the music back on.
Jason Moore
Running back Jonathan Taylor, 71.5 rushing yards. I'm taking the lower.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Okay. Oh, you coward.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Running back Breece hall projection 68 and a half.
Andy Holloway
Are you guys just being haters?
Mike Wright
I'm going lower. Oh, apparently Andy and I both go. Well, if you don't have a quarterback, just stack the run against this guy. He's not going to do well on the ground.
Andy Holloway
I got Andy's start of the week. Mr. Chris Rodriguez, 47 and a half rushing yards against the New York Giants. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. We're going more, baby.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Mike Wright
Hit it, Nico Collins. Arizona sucks.
Jason Moore
74.5 receiving yards. I'm taking them off.
Mike Wright
All right. I'm going. Drop is so good. Another high over under. Exciting, exciting game. Stefan Diggs, revenge against Buffalo again. 4 1/2 receptions. Believe he had 10 last time they faced off. I'm going more.
Andy Holloway
All right. I have.
Mike Wright
You wish you had music you got. I get to hear it one more time.
Andy Holloway
It's supposed to make you look dumb, but.
Mike Wright
Yeah, but it's really making the cool jealous.
Andy Holloway
I got Jerry Rice as my wide receiver. Also known as Michael Wilson. Five receptions in the first quarter. Come on, More.
Jason Moore
All right, it's time for the tight end. And you know what I'm doing here?
Mike Wright
We have a going with Green Goblin.
Jason Moore
Isaiah likely. Green Goblin, 1.5 receptions.
Andy Holloway
What?
Mike Wright
I'm taking the more baby that is. Okay, that's an absurd, absurd projection. I mean, I know it's a Green Goblin, so it's supposed to be easy. But that is absurd.
Jason Moore
Oh, man.
Mike Wright
Mine. I am going with Isaiah likely one and a half receptors, baby. More. Sometimes it's too easy. What you got, Mike?
Andy Holloway
It's my Green Goblin too. It's not nearly as cool as you guys.
Mike Wright
Loser.
Andy Holloway
But it's Harold Fannin. Oh, okay. Three and a half receptions. Okay, we'll go more on that.
Jason Moore
Against Green Goblin is better than normal.
Mike Wright
Easier than normal projection easier. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
That is going to do it.
Andy Holloway
Pretty jealous of I'm looking forward to breathing again.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Goodbye foot glad no he gotta hit the real one. Hit the real one. Daft Punk.
Jason Moore
I've hit it.
Mike Wright
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Week 15 Matchups + Wheel of Shame, PLAYOFF PITTS!
Episode Date: December 12, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright
In this jam-packed Friday playoff episode, Andy, Jason, and Mike take the Foot Clan through pivotal Week 15 matchups, dive deep into the fantasy shockwaves from Kyle Pitts’ historic outburst, and debate critical start/sit questions for your playoff run. The trio also weighs in on injury reports, team strategies, and, of course, face the ridiculous yet legendary Wheel of Shame. With their signature blend of stat-savvy banter and league-winning advice, the Footballers prep you to advance in the playoffs—whether you’re basking in Kyle Pitts glory or cursing your matchups.
“That is the most points a tight end has scored in fantasy football in the history of the world… in the last 40 years, that’s the most fantasy points ever scored by a tight end."
“7% of Kyle Pitts’ career fantasy points came in this one game."
Andy: “I’m in... If I were out, I would root for Jason.”
[19:25]
Mike: “This is a game you expect offenses to get it done despite good defenses.”
[23:35]
Mike: “I'm going with the player who has been more dominant on the field, which has been Rico this year.”
[28:52]
[34:27]
Andy: “You stack the box, you make him throw the ball more than four yards, you put it all on that right shoulder and what’s left of it."
[46:05]
Jason: “Are you playing Emmanuel Wilson if Jacobs is out?”
Mike: “Yes—he’ll get an extreme volume.”
[52:49 & 55:33]
“If the Steelers win, playoff probability jumps; if Miami wins, they keep slim hopes alive.”
“That was Fantasy Face off, presented by Prize Picks. Check out our player pack live in the app…”
This episode is a must-listen for managers in the thick of playoff pressure, with wall-to-wall actionable advice, insider start/sit opinions, and the kind of hijinks and debates that make fantasy fun. Whether you’re sorting through Pitts fallout, nervously waiting on Jacobs’ status, or deciding between committee backs, this episode arms you with information and the Footballers’ competitive edge.
Stay tuned, set those lineups—and if you started against Kyle Pitts, there’s always fishing.
For more detailed advice, rankings, and consideration of your unique league settings, check TheFantasyFootballers.com or JoinTheFoot.com for personalized support and tools.