Week 15 Studs & Duds + Illusionists, TD Controversy - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/15

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast: Week 15 Studs & Duds + Illusionists, TD Controversy

Release Date: December 15, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Fantasy Footballers dive into the wild Week 15 of the NFL season, marking the start of fantasy playoff battles. The trio breaks down the week's biggest surprises, controversial scoring debates, injury fallouts, key performances (studs & duds), and strategies for navigating the chaos of the postseason. The guys reflect on the unpredictable nature of fantasy playoffs, the role of luck vs. skill, and notable league controversies—including the much-debated Woody Marks rushing touchdown. Plenty of laughs, memorable moments, and strong opinions make this a must-listen as fantasy managers chase a championship.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Playoff Madness & The Luck vs. Skill Debate

• Fantasy playoffs are here! The crew reflects on their own matchups, including playoff heartbreak and how wildly outcomes can swing (01:39–04:04).

  • Andy: "Fantasy football is a game of skill and luck combined...the best matchup and the best players can have a bad week." (04:03–04:50)

• The importance of understanding fantasy as probability—absolutely anything can happen in the playoffs, and Vegas is often as wrong as everyone else (04:51–07:05).

  "It takes skill to make the playoffs, and it takes luck to win a championship."
  —Mike Wright (07:33)

2. Wild Week 15 Results & Standout Surprises

• Discussion of major letdowns, including:

  • The Ravens’ tight ends producing nothing in a supposed shootout (03:41–05:15)
  • Joe Burrow’s shocking flop and what it means for the Bengals’ rest-of-season (05:58–06:58)
  • Kyle Pitts and Trey McBride going nuclear, while usual names like Mark Andrews falter

  "This weekend was insane. The Bengals or...Ravens' tight ends doing nothing...in a game with a 50-something point over-under was the most shocking result."
  —Jason Moore (05:14)

3. The Woody Marks Touchdown Controversy

• A wild, platform-shaking debate: Woody Marks’ touchdown after a botched snap created massive controversy as most fantasy services (CBS, Yahoo, ESPN) didn’t count it as a rushing TD (08:22–13:13).

  • Platforms treated it as a fumble recovery, but Footballers argue it should count as a rushing TD.
  • Mike: "It's utter nonsense to count this as a fumble recovery touchdown...this was basically a Wildcat snap where he rushed the ball in." (10:02)
  • The debate on commissioner powers, league votes, and what’s right for players.
  • Consensus: Platforms should fix this automatically; if not, leagues should at least discuss/vote.
  • Technicals: Marks got the rushing yards but not TD points on many platforms (12:41–13:12).

  "I think it's ridiculous to not change that and give a man...he scored a touchdown, he got the snap, give him six points."
  —Jason Moore (12:21)

4. Injury Roundup & News

• Devonte Adams out with a hamstring, likely done for fantasy playoffs (26:12)
• Patrick Mahomes out for the season with ACL tear: “NFL fans don’t want Mahomes hurt” (19:39–20:22)
• Huge implications for Chiefs, plus wild AFC playoff history tidbits
• Other key injuries: Christian Watson (shoulder/chest, not season-ending), RJ Harvey (rib), Woody Marks (left after a TD, could have returned), Devin Neal, Devon Vale, Bashaw Tootin, more (27:03–29:29)
• Commissioner and managers advised to audit league settings in the offseason to avoid future scoring controversies (15:34–16:09).

5. Notable Game Moments & Monday Punday

• Standout performances are celebrated with classic “pun day” titles:
  • "Clever Lawrence" for Trevor Lawrence’s monster week (13:34)
  • "Trey McBe My Bride" (13:39)
  • “Travis et End Zone" for ETN’s big day (13:41)
  • "Kyle Trips" for Pitts' explosion (13:56)
  • Lowlights include "Dak depress Scott" and others pointing to fantasy heartbreaks (14:27–14:55).

6. Weekly Standouts: Studs & Duds

Quarterbacks

• Studs:
  • Trevor Lawrence: 44.3 pts (23:43, 35:23)
  • Bo Nix, Kirk Cousins, Brock Purdy, Jacoby Brissett (as streamers)
  • “I think I got [the Lawrence prize pick] in like the first five minutes.” —Andy (31:48)
• Duds:
  • Joe Burrow: “Loved Burrow this week...devastating.” (05:14, 58:26)
  • Lamar Jackson: 12 passes (58:34)

Running Backs

• Studs:
  • James Cook (30 pts); Travis Etienne (30)
  • Travion Henderson’s emergence: “He’s so good...He has to touch the ball 15 or more times” —Jason (41:33–42:33)
  • Bijan Robinson, Tyrone Tracy Jr., DeAndre Swift, Kyron Williams, Tony Pollard, more (40:22–44:14)
• Duds:
  • Jameer Gibbs, Breece Hall, Ashton Genti, Judkins, Kenneth Walker, etc. (59:55–61:54)

Wide Receivers

• Studs:
  • Amon-Ra St. Brown: 34.9 pts
  • Puka Nacua: “Puka’s a machine. How is he that good?” —Jason (47:36)
  • Jameson Williams, DJ Moore, Nico Collins, Chris Olave, Jamar Chase (48:33–54:54)
• Duds:
  • Justin Jefferson (extended segment: 64:28–65:53)
  • Jordan Addison, George Pickens (“illusionist" reference for Pickens, 66:13)
  • Ted McMillan, Jalen Coker, Lad McConkey (68:01)

Tight Ends

• Studs:
  • Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Dallas Goedert, Colby Parkinson, George Kittle
  • Trey McBride: “Cannot be understated how good” (55:05)
• Duds:
  • Mark Andrews, Isaiah Likely, Brock Bowers, Jake Ferguson, Dalton Kincaid (69:36–69:56)

7. Illusionists & Fantasy Humor

• The guys riff on how NFL coaches should hire real-life illusionists for trick plays and the impractical fantasy of a 7-foot-7 tight end (51:41–54:55):
  • “If anyone could do it, it’s David Blaine...vomit out the football.” —Jason (52:37)
  • Mike’s “Yao Ming as an NFL tight end” bit recurs (53:05).

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• Luck vs. Skill in Playoffs

  "It takes skill to make the playoffs, and it takes luck to win a championship."
  —Mike Wright (07:33)

• Woody Marks TD Debate

  “It's utter nonsense to count this as a fumble recovery touchdown...this was basically a Wildcat snap where he rushed the ball in.”
  —Mike Wright (10:02)

  “I think it's ridiculous to not change that and give a man...He scored a touchdown, he got the snap, give him six points.”
  —Jason Moore (12:21)

• Puka Nacua

  "Puka is just a machine. How is he that good?"
  —Jason Moore (47:36)

• On Jameer Gibbs' Strange Output

  "Jameer Gibbs, 13 for 38. The Lions are 0-6 in every game he doesn't score a touchdown."
  —Andy Holloway (59:48)

• George Pickens Discussion

  "George Pickens. You talk about an illusionist—he can disappear with the best."
  —Andy Holloway (66:22)

• On Weekly Variance

  "You have to come to terms with the fact that you’re playing a game of probability. You put people in the best position, but that’s all you can do."
  —Andy Holloway (04:56)

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Segment Highlights & Timestamps

• Playoff Luck vs. Skill Debate: (06:58–07:49)
• Woody Marks Scoring Controversy: (08:24–13:13)
• Notable Injuries & Fallout: (26:12–28:34)
• Monday Punday (wordplay recap): (13:13–14:55)
• Fantasy Studs by Position: (35:17–44:53, 47:36–54:54, 55:05–56:17)
• Wide Receiver Explosion (Jamo, Puka, St. Brown): (47:36–50:58)
• Tight End Dominance/Disasters: (55:05–56:17)
• Fun with Trick Plays/Illusionists: (51:41–54:55)
• Duds by Position & Playoff Outlook: (58:09–65:53)
• Fantasy Truth on George Pickens & WR Market: (66:13–68:34)

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Takeaways for Fantasy Managers

• Expect upsets & chaos during playoffs—anything can happen, and luck plays a huge role.
• Audit league rules off-season for rare plays, especially fumble and rushing TDs.
• Monitor injuries closely; many key pieces are on the shelf at the most important time.
• Don’t overreact to one week—stick to process, but recognize luck’s impact.
• Advocate for fairness, transparency, and league votes in unusual or controversial scenarios.

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Episode in a Nutshell:
Week 15 was the perfect example of why fantasy football is about rolling with the punches. Shocking upsets, monster performances, heartbreaking duds, and even a league-wide scoring controversy kept things spicy heading into the most important fantasy weeks of the year. The Footballers’ advice: Trust your process, be ready for heartbreak or elation, and most of all, enjoy the ride.

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For More

• Follow the Fantasy Footballers on Twitter/X, Instagram, and join the Foot Clan at jointhefoot.com.
• Submit your own “Monday Pundays” weekly for a chance at shoutouts.

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(This summary was crafted for listeners who want the heart and insights of the episode—without missing any of the original personalities, memorable lines, or critical fantasy takeaways.)

Transcript

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[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Welcome in.

[Andy Holloway]

Monday, December 15, the fantasy footballers Podcast. Back with you. Oh me, oh my. Fantasy playoffs are here. Week one nearly over and. Okay. All right.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, what a week. Some good, some bad. Goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, when Kyle Pitt starts the week, that way you know you're going to get some insanity. Over the course of the weekend, I think everything Jason wanted to happen happened to him. He had Travis ETN and Josh Jacobs go crazy. His opponent score no points.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you, Jameer Gibbs. You. You continued your streak of up, down, up, down, up, down. Yeah, no, it's. It was a good week for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Not for everybody.

[Jason Moore]

No, this was not for the people.

[Andy Holloway]

That played Joe Burrow or the people that played Isaiah likely or.

[Jason Moore]

Holy crap.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I read something this morning with Isaiah Likely, by the way.

[Mike Wright]

What was that?

[Andy Holloway]

I thought you were reacting to likely Likely.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, like just hold on before we move on. Speaking of Jason being the magic man. So league of record, you look very, very good.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

It's like Devon HN has to go.

[Mike Wright]

He has to get 42 points.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he doesn't know this news in the dynasty. He's down by two points.

[Jason Moore]

In no Dynasty League. He's up by two points.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

The other. The team he's facing has one player.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

He's toast. It's Jalen Warren.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Jaylen Warren basically has to get.

[Jason Moore]

Jalen Warren is now questionable.

[Mike Wright]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Mike Wright]

Well, I made a joke yesterday that like Gilmore needs to get injured pregame to. And that's my only Chance, he needs like one point and I lose. Like I'm already out of an illness. Oh, this is going to be bad.

[Jason Moore]

Probably still plays, but just. Oh my goodness.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. But anyway, give me a little hope.

[Jason Moore]

If we want to. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So I wanted to circle back to likely because Isaiah Likely. I read this morning he ran more routes than Mark Andrews for the first time since week eight. So he was out there like this is, this is kind of like people need to come to terms with this. I think it's important for fantasy football. Like fantasy football is a game of skill and luck combined.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Into a game of probability, into an algorithm that we cannot until we can see the future. You know, you're just going to be in this boat where the best matchup and the best players can have a bad week. You know, we thought Baltimore, Cincinnati would be a competitive high scoring game. The Bengals got shut out.

[Mike Wright]

That game was by far the biggest disappointment all the way around. I mean Joe Burrow was bet. Lamar Jackson threw 12 passes.

[Jason Moore]

That so 1212 total passes.

[Andy Holloway]

So likely ended up with no targets. Andrews had a bad game too.

[Mike Wright]

You in that, in that dynasty league where I need Jaylen Warren to score one point, I chose to start likely over. Over Andrews, who I would have started over Kyle Pitts. So I had two guys score 40 on my bench.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, if you had 40, you'd be up by more.

[Mike Wright]

I would, yeah. I would be on.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean Kyle Pitts is another example. Kyle Pitts previous career high in fantasy points was like 25 points. And this was 45 in a lot of league formats. Like in the same 20 more points in your career high. So all I'm saying is you got to come to terms with the fact that you're playing a game of probability. You put people in the best position.

[Jason Moore]

To play that one. They play the game that was the most shocking results. Honestly for me, this weekend was insane. Pretty. Usually the NFL weekends are usually insane. This one felt a little crazier with injury. The injuries which we will talk about. But the, the, the Bengals or I'm sorry, the Ravens tight ends doing nothing against the Bengals in a game that was a 50 something point over under was the most shocking result and probably the most devastating. I mean, I guess Burrow on top of that too. Like Burrow. I loved Burrow. I would have played Burrow over almost, almost every quarterback this weekend and it was devastating.

[Andy Holloway]

It now feels, it feels a little scary with Burrow moving forward actually to.

[Jason Moore]

Me because a little bit of the heebie jeebies.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You're playing for nothing at this point, right? What if you, if you won this week, you had. Now you're playing for nothing. And the dude's not in the right headspace. I think right now with how tough the year has been. The comments, not just the press conference, but from Jamar Chase, this after the game. And you know, it does make you wonder if this season is just. It's going to be tough to get up for the rest of the games for Cincinnati. But, you know, we always, we always joke about this. Like, one of my prize picks, projections that I missed is that I took. I took Josh Allen over 20.5 completions. He had 20. And so we all sit back and we go, Vegas is unbelievable, right? The bookmakers. And then you see a game like Cincinnati and you see. And Baltimore, and we forget how wrong they are about that game. That game was completely wrong. Half the points, less than. Half the points scored than they project.

[Mike Wright]

So the good news about all of the craziness that can happen and all the unpredictability is that if you are in the playoffs and you're an underdog, you're fine, you got a shot. I mean, we've, we've said this in the past and it is. It's not entirely true.

[Andy Holloway]

Get to the playoffs, but it is.

[Mike Wright]

You know, there's, there's truth to this phrase that we have said many times, and I don't think we've said it on the show much, but we. We've said it off air a lot, which is like, it's a lot of.

[Andy Holloway]

Lead up to this. I really want to know what it is.

[Mike Wright]

It takes skill to make the playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yes.

[Mike Wright]

And it takes luck to win a championship. Like, you know what I mean? Like a long enough season. The skill's gonna get you there. You gotta get to the playoffs, but then you gotta have some luck in the playoffs. You just have to.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you mail a package to Jalen Warren?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you got an illness?

[Mike Wright]

Well, sure. I don't know. I thought you were not a bomb. Yeah, no. You of some danger in the mail.

[Andy Holloway]

I meant like a petri dish. I mean, did you send him a petri dish?

[Mike Wright]

I did not. This is pure luck. You know, he's wrapped in some smallpox blankets and that's. Oh, my gosh.

[Andy Holloway]

We do not condone bio orphan. No, never have, never will.

[Mike Wright]

No, not publicly.

[Andy Holloway]

By the way, another crazy thing that happened this weekend for those that. And I was catching everybody up in the office about this last night, but there's a Bunch of controversy going on on all platforms about Woody Marks his rushing touchdown because what happened on the play against Arizona, Arizona was well on their way to giving up their weekly 40 and they snapped the ball. It went through the legs of C.J. stroud. It touched the ground while Woody Marks picked up the ball and then he kind of just torpedoed into the end zone.

[Mike Wright]

Basically a Wildcat run because the ball went to the ground. And then he picked it up directly rushed it in, probably about five yards out. And it was, it looked like when I watch it live, I didn't tell, I couldn't tell that the ball hit the ground. It looked like a direct snap to him that he caught low and then rushed it in. Wildcat touchdown. Awesome play.

[Andy Holloway]

So. So what ends up happening is no platforms are counting that as a rushing touchdown. Nonsense. Cbs, Yahoo, NFL, espn, as far as I last knew, I don't know about sleeper, but those four, I've seen reports on this. And so what happens is in most leagues, like if we've. We've had tram bride score fumble recovery.

[Jason Moore]

Touchdowns are just on.

[Andy Holloway]

They are in ours on a lot of leagues. They are. But I think what happens is on like the. On cbs, on the commissioner leagues, some of the default league scoring formats just simply don't have that as something that counts. It's a rushing touchdown that you get points for. It's not any touchdown. And at least to the point where there was a groundswell all over Twitter, wild over multiple where this is the case. And so, you know, most leagues are probably, when you're setting up your default league, you're really not thinking about.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

That changing that as a default format.

[Mike Wright]

If anything, it should be defaulted on. And you have to choose to be like that. Shouldn't. You know? But also, I think it's utter nonsense to count this as a, as a fumble recovery touchdown. Like what Trey McBride did, you know, last year, diving football, someone fumbled it into the end zone and he dove on it. That's a fumble recovery touchdown. Okay, whatever he did, he wasn't part of the play. He just recovered the touchdown. This was like, this was basically a Wildcat snap where he rushed the ball in. And I was thinking about this if, because we see this every game, a ball touches the ground for the quarterback on the snap, he picks it up, he throws it, he completes the pass and the play happens. Are you telling me that that doesn't count? That's a fumble recovery pass? No, it's a freaking football play. It's utter nonsense. And I get that Every platform should, by hand, autocorrect that into a rushing type.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you telling that to the commissioners?

[Mike Wright]

I'm telling that to the platforms, but on a commissioner basis. That's tougher. It's got to come from the platform. It has to. Because it probably affects.

[Jason Moore]

Make it right.

[Mike Wright]

A commissioner can't. Unless the.

[Andy Holloway]

I wonder if there'll be an official scoring change.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's nonsense.

[Jason Moore]

I give all commissioners the right to go and change that right now.

[Andy Holloway]

As long as they're not involved in the matchup.

[Mike Wright]

Fair. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If they're involved in the matchup, then it's.

[Mike Wright]

Unless it causes them a loss.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think so. I think that it's just.

[Andy Holloway]

Everyone should go commissioner.

[Mike Wright]

That's actually. Yeah, you should.

[Jason Moore]

It's the right.

[Mike Wright]

What's right is right.

[Jason Moore]

Even if you're a commissioner and it gives you the win, so be it.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the right thing. I don't think Al's on the same page here, and I'm not on the same page either. If you're the commissioner and this gives you a win, you can't just. You can't just go do that.

[Mike Wright]

But.

[Andy Holloway]

If your league scoring settings say.

[Mike Wright]

That you don't get points for a.

[Andy Holloway]

Fumble recovery touchdown, and that snap hit.

[Mike Wright]

The ground, technically, if that snap hit.

[Andy Holloway]

The ground and fumbled, then yeah, I mean, you have to go with the official score.

[Mike Wright]

This is why I default. It's saying platforms need to override this.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree with you on that.

[Mike Wright]

If the platforms should. Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

It's out of the commissioner's hand. Mike, if you and Jason were in a battle and you're down by five, Jason will have a different opinion right now.

[Jason Moore]

No, I would have the. I promise you I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you'd be getting the win. No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

If I were going to lose from this, I would have the exact same opinion.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you. Yes, you would.

[Jason Moore]

Because I think it's ridiculous to not change that and give a man. He scored a touchdown, he got the snap, give him six points, he rushed.

[Mike Wright]

For those yards and got the touchdown in.

[Andy Holloway]

He technically recovered a fumbled.

[Jason Moore]

Does he get rushing yards?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

Does. I'm pretty sure he has.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sure you probably do.

[Jason Moore]

He gets yards of some kind. How would you not get a touchdown?

[Andy Holloway]

We're not debating what it should be. It's just the official scoring report. Like, I think it's just really odd if a commissioner would change it arbitrarily to give themselves a win. That's out. That's insane.

[Mike Wright]

At the Very least every league. That's insane.

[Jason Moore]

I'm giving everyone permission to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you, Mike. I think at the very least, every league should, like, have a vote. And if majority says yes, of course that should be a touchdown, then you change it in your league because it should be.

[Jason Moore]

That's.

[Mike Wright]

Did it score in our league? Did we look at that. I'm just curious.

[Jason Moore]

I'm sure it did.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we allowed touchdowns for recovered fumbles, so we have Monday punday reaction. I'm sure we're going to hear a lot about that debate in a minute in the. In the Twitter Sphere and on YouTube, but we have your reactions to the weekend on Monday punday because of course we do. Starting with a wonderful, amazing performance by Clever Lawrence.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, he was so good. How about Trey McBe My Bride?

[Andy Holloway]

He's gonna break the record.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We got Travis et end zone.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Jason so happy. OMG ST Brown.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, to infinity. And Travion.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, jolly old St. Nick's people had the courage. Yeah, people played him.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyle Trips.

[Jason Moore]

Nice.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyle Trips.

[Mike Wright]

Jameson Mega Millions still playing well, now.

[Andy Holloway]

We'Re into the bad.

[Jason Moore]

Got the bad. We do have a comment from Andrew who says, Jason owes me 200 bucks because he says Jason Jefferson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We get that out on Twitter. Isaiah likely ended my season.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah. Namir Gibbs, Jameer Fibs. Thank you, my man.

[Jason Moore]

I really enjoy Ashton Shanty. Yeah, that's good.

[Andy Holloway]

Or no burrow.

[Mike Wright]

I like this one. Quinch on Butkins. Tedro McVillain Bad McConkey and Dak depress Scott. Yeah, that is. I would have been really upset if everything else didn't go my way because the these games that have happened for Dak Prescott, where he plays well, he has enough yards, he moves the ball and then they just. Every touchdown is a rushing touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

He played okay. Sure.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, it wasn't like he went well.

[Andy Holloway]

What was crazy is I saw somebody had heads up last night. Brandon Aubrey versus Dak Prescott. They had Dak. They lost.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

You imagine you're going into the game.

[Mike Wright]

Dak versus the kicker, and Aubrey ironically lost them the game by missing two kicks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. Crazy weekend. You can submit your Monday pund days on Instagram at Fantasy Footballers on X at the FF Ballers every Sunday night. You can post those to us and we'll talk some news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a good point, Al. Just audit your league settings in the off season because I think Sleeper is the one that avoided this issue. I think Sleeper is the one that has.

[Mike Wright]

Defaults it on.

[Andy Holloway]

It defaults fumble recovery, touchdowns is on. And so, you know, if those other platforms, I think they're in a bind. I think those other platforms are in an impossible position because I don't think you can make a scoring change that.

[Mike Wright]

That the NFL doesn't make.

[Andy Holloway]

The NFL doesn't make. I don't think that Yahoo can just say, well, the NFL scores at this, but we're going to score at this for the sake of your playoffs. I think they're all in a pickle. So I think this is why I think you can have a league vote.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And the league vote says, hey, reasonableness is what's going to win out here in our league. I think reasonableness is one of the tenets of a fantasy football league that we all abide by.

[Mike Wright]

One of the tenets of humanity or should. Should be. It's not.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And so, I mean, I, you know, if it's me, if I'm the commissioner, whether it benefits me or not, I would just say, hey, guys, let's not. Let's not let the season end with something ridiculous where the guy's not rewarded for a play that was a football play where he went into the end zone and scored.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, he got the snap, he rushed it forward, he scored a touchdown, got the points for the Texans.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to read that way?

[Jason Moore]

So I went and looked. Pro Football Reference, which, I mean, shout out to them. Great website. A lot of good stats and everything. It is. They have it listed as a CJ Stroud aborted snap recovered by Woody Marks.

[Andy Holloway]

At the end of return.

[Jason Moore]

Returned one yard touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

I was only a yard out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Well, that's where C.J.

[Mike Wright]

Was.

[Andy Holloway]

The run ended up being five, six yards. But, yeah, I don't think we were counting on the aborted snap scenario.

[Jason Moore]

That's so.

[Andy Holloway]

It's crazy.

[Jason Moore]

It's so weird.

[Andy Holloway]

The jets fired Steve Wilkes.

[Mike Wright]

Whoa.

[Jason Moore]

Problem solved.

[Mike Wright]

Wait a minute. He could. Arizona Cardinals. Are you aware that you can do things like this?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, wait, no. They did. Real quick.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I'm just saying the Cardinals should fire John Gannon, and I just want to make sure they.

[Andy Holloway]

I thought you were making a joke because the Cardinals already fired Steve Wilkes.

[Mike Wright]

They did do that once upon a time, but I just mean in season right now, you can do this.

[Andy Holloway]

The jets have zero interceptions on the season, and I guess they're disappointed that Steve Wilkes couldn't get enough out of Sauce Gardner and Quinn and Williams this year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. He's the problem.

[Andy Holloway]

They gave up 48 points and he's the problem. Okay. He seemed to do really well with nice personnel in Carolina before. I remember that.

[Mike Wright]

And Denver and anywhere he's had good personnel, it's just.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, okay. But Brady Cook can get the win.

[Jason Moore]

So let's fire Steve Wilkes.

[Mike Wright]

I'll tell you what you suck.

[Andy Holloway]

Jets. Cardinals, you suck. Jets, you suck. Raiders, you suck. I don't know if we need a you suck list with all caps, but those three teams are on it.

[Mike Wright]

I'll tell you what you should not do. If you are a high level cornerback, coach an awesome linebacker, coach the new hotness. You should not accept this job to be the defensive coordinator for the jets because you will not do well.

[Andy Holloway]

Not to mention you may go out with the bathwater. Right. If they fire their head coach after one year, that's.

[Jason Moore]

That's always tough, man. You had the.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to do this? No, I'm good where I'm at.

[Jason Moore]

We had the year of both Ben Johnson and Bobby Slowik. We're like, nope, we're not taking the jobs. We're going to stay where we are one more year, work for one Ben Johnson. It becomes a smashing success. He gets the job he wants. The other guy is Kyle. Is he in the league? Is he doing anything?

[Andy Holloway]

I believe he's in the mailroom.

[Jason Moore]

I'll check in with Bobby.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you check in with Bobby. Devon Hn off the injury report and good to go. If he scores over 41 points, Jason will be sad.

[Mike Wright]

This senior, which he did two weeks ago.

[Jason Moore]

Bobby Sloke is the senior passing game coordinator for the Dolphins.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Does that mean he's the old one?

[Jason Moore]

That means that's called a demotion.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Devon Hn off the injury report, ready to go. Patrick Mahomes. I mean, we are.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Endless news to talk about. They were on the. On the cusp of being eliminated from the playoffs, in which they ended up being eliminated. Goodness gracious. Gardner Minch.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Gardner Minshew made sure of that.

[Jason Moore]

He's Minshew time.

[Andy Holloway]

But Patrick Mahomes, out for the year with a torn acl. The parallels to Brady's torn ACL are wild. I don't know if you've seen that.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

The same season, after three titles.

[Jason Moore]

It wasn't Brady game one.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, it was. I know it was.

[Andy Holloway]

It was game one.

[Mike Wright]

I traded everything for him and he ruined my season.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They're different people. It's not exactly the same. It's just the same exact season after the same Amount of titles after the same situation in the Super Bowl. It was just pretty interesting.

[Mike Wright]

It was the most insult to injury situation that I can remember where it's like, as a Chiefs fan, nobody wants.

[Andy Holloway]

Mahomes to miss time.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. Nobody. Even anti Chiefs people.

[Jason Moore]

NFL fans don't want Mahomes hurt.

[Mike Wright]

No, you want like I was rooting for them to not make the playoffs only because, you know, watch the world burn. It would not root for this. And it's like, oh, dude, they already lost. They. They already were going to miss the playoffs. You didn't need to do this world Brady.

[Andy Holloway]

Mahomes Manning has have been in every single playoff since 98. Those three. So this will be the first time since 98. No Brady, no Manning, no Mahomes. AFC's wide open. Buffalo. Go do it. I am telling you to do it. This is your time.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What a crazy game that was. I was hiding under the bed after the first.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You called for the kill the Patriots.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no, I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

They killed him in the second half.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not victory lapping that as a. Because I said I thought they'd kill him. Yeah, but at 21, nothing. I thought I might not have a job anymore. I was like, what is going on this year? I can't see nothing.

[Jason Moore]

I tell you who else.

[Andy Holloway]

And then what a comeback.

[Jason Moore]

It was over all of Twitter.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. Everybody. Duncan just victory lap.

[Andy Holloway]

And I got done. Done.

[Jason Moore]

There's. There's two halves of football. Everyone just hold your comments. Hold your comments for one more half.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. I was playing against Josh Allen and we knew. We knew in the first quarter, while he's getting shut down, I'm like, this isn't like, I'm not going to be happy about this yet. We know it's going to happen and.

[Andy Holloway]

We are all guilty of it. But the human impulse to just post as soon as humanly possible. Like if there's something like a Christmas season, something I want to put. If somebody's getting coal, they're getting coal for the. When we get the first quarter. You guys are morons about this guy. We're like, okay, maybe. Maybe we are, but please let the other three quarters go and then you can dunk on us.

[Mike Wright]

Also, the Patriots absolutely should have won that game. And I don't mean they fell apart. No, no, no. Oh, I'm not blaming the Patriots. That was an interception that they caught. They talking about the intercept, the PI. The defensive pass.

[Jason Moore]

I thought it was probably.

[Andy Holloway]

They don't count the interceptions after after passing the PI he got his head.

[Mike Wright]

Around, looked at the ball, made a play on the ball, caught the ball, intercepted the ball and got called for officer passengers. And what's crazy is defensive or defensive. Earlier in the game, Trevius White did almost the exact same play where you could have called a pass interference, but he intercepted the ball for the Bills. Not called. I didn't have a horse in the race. I don't care who wins. I wasn't rooting for either.

[Andy Holloway]

It is a brutal pass interference is an awesome completely wrong. I disagree with you. You were totally correct biased against Josh Allen scoring in that situation.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that's true. Okay, I have a screenshot in front of me.

[Andy Holloway]

He's staring directly at the receiver with both hands on screenshot.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. He already looked before he got.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't get to look and then make contact. That's insane.

[Mike Wright]

If you look. Yes, you do. You can make a play on the ball and intercept.

[Andy Holloway]

It's illegal. It's an illegal play.

[Jason Moore]

That one happens all the time. If you look for the ball and then you end up running into the player you are often given.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't look at the ball, turn and then push the guy. You can't do that. Go look up the statue for pass interference. It's crazy.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just saying watch both of those plays and there's a lot of similarities. One was called the pass interference, one was a given interception. The same game should call it the same way.

[Jason Moore]

Also, they should have played better in the second half.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The we'll take a break. We'll talk some more news.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Devonte Adams. This sucks.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye, Fantasy playoffs. Devonte Adams will not be a part of it. He left early with a hamstring injury.

[Mike Wright]

He just.

[Andy Holloway]

Big vay already said it didn't look good.

[Jason Moore]

He was running in a straight line and then he went down.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the ball was thrown and you're like, oh, this is good. I think he's going to get. Oh, he stopped running. He's hurt. He is. And then he was. He just laid down knowing, like when you. When you have that reaction. He laid face down like he was deceased for 30 seconds or 30 seconds.

[Jason Moore]

He's bringing it back.

[Mike Wright]

Or he was blinking on no plan.

[Jason Moore]

It's a weird time to do a.

[Mike Wright]

Meme, but yeah, it's going to be like. I think at this point, Rams fans are very hopeful that he is there for the NFL playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

If you have him in your Champ Champ Dyno Junior League. We've been riding on the back of a lot of Adams touchdowns. We will have to pivot.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. What else do we have? Roma dunes a 3 minutes before kickoff was ruled out of this game. After. After they said he was going to.

[Mike Wright]

Play, all three of us tweeted it out as quick as we could. It was like three minutes before.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And I had some responses to my tweet that people saw it just a little bit late and that that made the difference between them making making the playoffs and not or going to the next round. And yeah, it was.

[Jason Moore]

That one's brutal.

[Mike Wright]

What a pump fake. That's terrible.

[Andy Holloway]

We had Christian Watson. This was scary. Got better news about it. The packers went through a run of injuries in this game that, I mean, you already have the terrible, horrible, awful news. Michael Parsons, torn acl.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Was that confirmed?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, no, it hasn't been confirmed with an mri. But you.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, usually they know it's been confirmed with MRIs.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, nice. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, like every doctor under the sun And Mike and LaFleur's comments in.

[Mike Wright]

The post game, non contact.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, yeah, you see a shin pop.

[Jason Moore]

That's a bummer.

[Andy Holloway]

Christian Watson left with the shoulder injury, chest injury. There was some concern about clavicle. It's not clavicle. It's a sprained SC joint similar to what Tyree Kill had a few years ago. So not a major injury was the quote we got. That is very good news for this team moving into the playoffs. It's not great for maybe next week. RJ Harvey, I didn't know this. Left early with a rib injury. That's. He didn't have a great game. Woody Marks left the Texans game after his fumble recovery. That's all he wanted to do.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. He's like, I got the touchdown for fantasy managers. They'll be happy. I know. And then it's like, no, he didn't. It's good news that they said he could have come back in the game, which is devastating news for those of you who played.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, d', Amico, Ryan's. That's kind of just. You're just salting the wound there because Woody Marks would have dominated.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, the backups dominated. Was it Jordan?

[Andy Holloway]

Someone blame the Cardinals for giving up 40 points and making Woody Marks. It was needed.

[Mike Wright]

It was a great start of the week. Who unfortunately did score. Might not have scored for you and could have played, but didn't play because they didn't need him anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

The. I mean, moments after I said Devin Neal was what Kendra Miller couldn't be because Kendra Miller would have been killing in this situation for the Saints. Devin Neal left with a hamstring injury just like Kendra Miller would have. And then Devon Vale also left early.

[Jason Moore]

Which Evan Hole and Audric estimate are the running backs who are currently left for the Saints.

[Andy Holloway]

They keep competing. Did you see the comments from Chase Young about Tyler Shuck?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, dude. Tyler Schuck was a. I mean, he laid it all out. He sacrificed his body to get that win.

[Mike Wright]

That was awesome. And the idiotic play on the defense is insane. Like, you. Basically, there's one thing you can't do.

[Jason Moore]

Hit the sliding quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Sliding quarterback. If you don't do that, you're going to win.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

24 for 32, 304 yards, one touchdown. He had already clutch performances. And then Chase Young, I mean, he came out and he said, tyler Shuck, he's like, he's starting to look like that guy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because he had gotten banged up earlier in the game like he was. He was hurting and he played through. And then, I mean, saves the day with allowing a defender to just crush him on the ground that then turns into the field goal.

[Andy Holloway]

They're also.

[Jason Moore]

I'm liking what I'm seeing from Shuck.

[Mike Wright]

I am, too. I mean, I said that from that first game where they got blown out by the Rams. And I went back and I watched. I was like, he was good. He played well. They're three and three in his six.

[Andy Holloway]

Starts with dropped a Lava touchdown. That would have put him four and two.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And would have helped the Cardinals draft pick.

[Mike Wright]

Well, and thankfully, this win helped the Cardinals draft pick and it helped Tyler Schuck have a job. It helped him have a job because this probably. I mean, they're at four wins now, so they're. They're almost. They're definitely not gonna be in like the top five or six picks and they could win another game or two down the stretch with Schuck and then they'll be outside of where you have to draft a quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think. I think he's playing himself into a starting job for the future, which is.

[Jason Moore]

That's. That's fun.

[Andy Holloway]

That's cool. Yeah, it's good.

[Jason Moore]

They're right now picking seventh, so Saints, Washington and Cincinnati are all tied at 4. 4 wins.

[Andy Holloway]

Bashaw Tootin left with a finger injury. Is that. Was that you, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

I just gave him a good handshake.

[Mike Wright]

What are you talking about?

[Jason Moore]

Dude, Travis ETN has been dominating like the last month. It's been.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, these were. These were what Trevor Lawrence was five passing touchdowns and a rushing touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That's insane.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. My prize picks was 1 1/2 passing touchdowns for Trevor Lawrence. I think I got that in like the first five minutes.

[Andy Holloway]

Four and a half. You should have taken the over. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Wow. I didn't realize this. Looking at Travis etn.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Since the bye week, which was a while ago. It was Right in the middle of the season. He had one bad week against Tennessee and he has been a top 12 back every single week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, they're like. Without overstating it and without failing to acknowledge that Trevor Lawrence can be Jekyll and Hyde. They look like a contender to me.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You have a defense that is strong. You have an offense that once they added Jacoby Myers and now they got Brian Thomas Jr back. They seem formidable.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and Trevor. Something's different. Something is different with Trevor Lawrence right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Liam Cohen is near the Gus Bradley level of wins for that. For that franchise already.

[Mike Wright]

He is Trevor Lawrence and Kyler Murray. I put those guys. I synced them together so much in my mind at the beginning of the season, even before the season where it's like, these are above average quarterbacks who can play in the NFL, but they're so inconsistent and sometimes disappear.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, get ready, though.

[Mike Wright]

And now. Well, right. I mean, it could happen, but really for next week. Recently, it's very impressive. Lawrence is, I think the biggest thing he has been bad at is consistency and he's been consistent. So. Yeah, I mean, the test is coming this week in Denver.

[Jason Moore]

I just want to remind you, Jason, as we are likely to face off in the league of record semis, that Travis ETM will be on the road against Denver and Bijan Robinson will be playing Arizona next.

[Mike Wright]

Moving on. I was aware of that. Hey, can you remind me who Josh Jacobs played this last week? Oh, okay. And where he played?

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Was it in Denver? That starts against Denver.

[Andy Holloway]

Here we go.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Here we go.

[Mike Wright]

Travis Etating. Scared?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I'm scared. He's not scared. He's a man. I'm a coward.

[Andy Holloway]

That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. Is it going to be safe to be in the studio next week?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

If you two are facing off.

[Mike Wright]

No. You're going to. We're going to need to switch seats. Can't be next to this guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Have you ever faced off with each other in the Simmies? I don't.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

No, I don't think.

[Andy Holloway]

Go to the title.

[Mike Wright]

No, I don't think so.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So is that the way it looks seating wise, that you guys.

[Mike Wright]

It could flip to where I play Josh, but are you going to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Each other in the Dynasty League too?

[Jason Moore]

No, he lost. Whoa, Whoa. If somehow Jalen Warren doesn't Get a point.

[Andy Holloway]

Doesn't and does he have a backup?

[Jason Moore]

I got to go.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, this Jalen Warren.

[Jason Moore]

Don't tell him.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't tell him backups exist. I mean, it's a dynasty league, so a backup would have to be on his team.

[Mike Wright]

And the other thing that could happen in our league of record, If Waddle scores 22 points tonight, currently, no, he does.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think there's anything he can do.

[Mike Wright]

Fantastic. Holy crap. In the league of record of Waddle scores 22, I'll play against Papa Josh. Otherwise I'm playing against Mike. And that does mean right now, you know, assuming HN doesn't get 40 plus points, three of the four people left are in the studio. So got a good chance keeping that trophy.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, boy. Let's talk studs.

[Mike Wright]

This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's.

[Andy Holloway]

Trevor Lawrence, 44.3 points. Bo Nix at 29.

[Jason Moore]

Trevor Lawrence, stream of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Bo Nix against Green Bay.

[Jason Moore]

Big performance that one.

[Andy Holloway]

Also Pat Bryant got him out of the way.

[Jason Moore]

Mike the yeah. Joe Burrow very, very surprising in the negative way. Bonix, very surprising in the other direction.

[Andy Holloway]

Kirk Cousins, Brock Purdy, Jared Goff, your next three. That's right. Kirk Cousins, number three on the week.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you, Kyle.

[Andy Holloway]

Brock purdy, big performance. 23 for 32, 95 and three for Brock Purdy against Tennessee.

[Mike Wright]

It's funny because I was upset we told, you know, we have been the most pro Jacobi Brissette group as far as fantasy telling you he's not a streamer anymore. You got to start him every single week. We told you this last week, like I wouldn't play him this week, but thankfully it was scary. The two names that we said most, you know, that was like, if Purdy or Trevor Lawrence is out there, I play him ahead. Hey, it worked out because those guys were awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

Jacoby Reset is sitting at 12 on the week.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, he had three touchdowns, right?

[Andy Holloway]

He did. He did. He'd be higher than that somehow sitting at 12. Which means the streak, his streak is top 12 performances. But then Houston streak is not giving up a top 12. And we still got Monday night football games tonight to see if somebody can pass Jacoby. But yeah, there were some. There were some performances that took a while. I'd say Josh Allen took a while. Matthew Stafford took a while. Jackson dart definitely took a while.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it did.

[Andy Holloway]

That one was not looking good for quite some time. C.J. stroud found Nico on the opening possession and then kept it going. Three touchdowns no picks. Jason. Stream of the week JJ McCarthy.

[Jason Moore]

JJ McCarthy.

[Mike Wright]

Your stream of the week. Which was.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean that's 250 and two of the rushing. Touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Best game he's played. He.

[Mike Wright]

He looked great when he wasn't throwing to Justin Jefferson.

[Andy Holloway]

What's with him and Naylor?

[Jason Moore]

Man, I don't know. I mean, look, that's step one because like as of the game in Washington, it was like he can't throw to the wide receiver position. It just has to go to the tight ends. Okay, maybe some wide receiver. It's possible.

[Mike Wright]

I mean we had two.

[Jason Moore]

Right. And then Addison had that huge bomb. Almost scored. Jefferson did score.

[Mike Wright]

If you.

[Jason Moore]

If you didn't get to watch the game. Jefferson did score a touchdown and it.

[Mike Wright]

Got called back and then he dropped the touchdown, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So I mean he literally should have had two and the. Again these illegal formation things where it's like this guy wasn't covered, he didn't report eligible and it's like they had no effect on the play.

[Jason Moore]

But man, there. McCarthy had some laser beams in that game. I don't know if it's going to work. I still don't know if it's going to work.

[Andy Holloway]

Based off he dropped one of the laser beams.

[Jason Moore]

The McCarthy playing against essentially two of the best matchups for a quarterback who needs to get his confidence back. Let's see what do we got rest of season. We got the Giants coming up. That's another game that McCarthy could. Could boost his confidence. But then you get Detroit and Green Bay.

[Andy Holloway]

There was a reason you traded for Jefferson for the stretch run is just before the.

[Jason Moore]

The schedule was great.

[Andy Holloway]

Who plays more who starts more games in the NFL in their career. J.J. mcCarthy or Tyler Schuck. Interesting.

[Mike Wright]

Wow. Wow. I'll say McCarthy. He's got the team around him.

[Jason Moore]

I lean that way a little bit too. And I mean dude, that gritty as he was running for a touchdown that.

[Andy Holloway]

Took away some games for me.

[Jason Moore]

What? Oh man. You.

[Andy Holloway]

The juxtaposition of how absolute but he's been with.

[Mike Wright]

I was fired.

[Jason Moore]

Your team is fired up from that.

[Mike Wright]

I was actually sure he had the.

[Andy Holloway]

Face from the meme on that he.

[Mike Wright]

I was actually happy that he had that attitude considering how. But he's been because you. You can't have him stop believing in himself. That's the beginning of the end.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I don't know. I think just run into the end zone and score a touchdown. Running backs on the week. James Cook, 30 points.

[Jason Moore]

A firm hand. Yeah. O' Connell just hand the ball to the ref. Act like you've been there before.

[Mike Wright]

Stand these touchdown dance.

[Andy Holloway]

Who am I talking to?

[Jason Moore]

You're talking to some young, hip people.

[Andy Holloway]

O' Connell hated it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, o', Connell, Osmano. His players loved it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

His teammates loved it.

[Andy Holloway]

My gosh. You must love nine, then. You must love the nine nickname. No, no, you do.

[Mike Wright]

There's a line.

[Andy Holloway]

There's a line. No, it's fun. You love it.

[Jason Moore]

No, I love that. I love the gritty.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you have to call him nine. James Cook at 30, Travis ETN at 30, Travy on at 29. Bijan at 25, Tracy at 23.

[Mike Wright]

That's Tyrone Tracy.

[Jason Moore]

As opposed to.

[Mike Wright]

Well, just Tracy Morgan, Dick Tracy, who knows? You know, I just want.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to know who you were clarifying for.

[Mike Wright]

No, it was just. Because Tyrone Tracy is not someone that everyone started. I don't think. I think people out there are like, wait, who's Tracy?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, why didn't you say Junior? We might have thought it was his dad.

[Mike Wright]

Tyrone Tracy Jr. Thank you. Thank you for the correction. Just trying to help people know who scored fantasy points. Forgive me.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyrone Tracy Jr. Running back for the Giants. Number 29. Number five on the week.

[Jason Moore]

That one.

[Mike Wright]

The.

[Jason Moore]

No, he had the injury two weeks ago. I got this one wrong. I thought Singletary would have been the better option here, but Tyrone Tracy looked. He looked good. He got it done.

[Andy Holloway]

So did James Cook. And we know Jason started the week. Travis etn. I feel like Jason willed it into existence here. He was 12 or 32 on the ground, just to be clear. Yeah, it was all amazing performance because of the receiving game.

[Mike Wright]

Three for 73 and three in the receiving game.

[Andy Holloway]

Chayvon Henderson is averaging 18.8 PPR points per game since week eight.

[Jason Moore]

He's so good.

[Mike Wright]

He's that guy. And the thing is, is I think that they are doing a good job with Ramondre Ramandre was absolutely great. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

In the beginning of this game, he still ended up 6 for 50. He averaged 8 a carry. And then Travion ends up with the two monster touchdowns because you can't catch him. The.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He's so fast having Ramondre. I think Ramon Dre ran more routes than Henderson. That's a little weird to me. But this was better in terms of workload.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The last two weeks, Ramondre, three catches on three targets both weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Like, my argument has never been that Ramon Dre shouldn't ever take snaps or on the play.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, the snaps were up at 67% for him, he's gone from 31 to 58 to 67, but they made the most. Travion just made the most of his touches.

[Mike Wright]

You need to give him enough opportunities so he can break.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he had break. He had 14 carries. Ramondre was six carries. Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Like that's the carries versus that's what.

[Jason Moore]

It needs to be is Henderson has to touch the ball 15 or more times a game because your chance of at least one of those turning into a gigantic play. Like a momentum shifting play. So fabulous, fabulous stuff. I like it working here at the end of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh Jacobs two touchdowns, including an incredible receiving touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Master Guy had to tell the coaching staff to leave him on the field.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean part of the game they're trying to call him off.

[Mike Wright]

He's banged up, he's hurt, he's playing through injuries and he is. He wants to be on that field every play. And I love it.

[Andy Holloway]

DeAndre Swift. DeAndre Swift ended up with I think the largest rushing percentage that he's had in a while. 18 for 98 and 2 quietly the court. The running back 14 on the year.

[Mike Wright]

That's crazy. I mean you look at his entire.

[Andy Holloway]

Career, not a good day for Manunga.

[Mike Wright]

His. You look at DeAndre Swift's career and he is never been outside the top 24 running backs. Never been inside the top 12. He is what he is.

[Andy Holloway]

You have Kyron two more rushing touchdowns. Corum had a career high 46% of snaps in this game and played well. But he had one rushing touchdown opportunity. Didn't get it. Kyron took over. Tony Pollard decided to run for 100.

[Mike Wright]

Corum did Cormor later.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Did he?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Okay. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Tony Pollard. What. What is going on here?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they've been scoring points the last two weeks. Might be corollary.

[Jason Moore]

Could, could be, could be causation that Tony Pollard is getting it done.

[Andy Holloway]

Saquon Barkley 22 for 78 and one JCM was 18 for 96 with the Chris Rodriguez start of the week. That sucks. Rodriguez ruled out late. JCM took over and then dominated.

[Mike Wright]

Next week is Philly really sad.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you, Bill. You know what, I'll give him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, give it to him now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think. I think Rodriguez would have been awesome. Dominant CMC and Javante has well gotten to the end zone. We will take a break and talk about wide receivers. Do I need to wait?

[Mike Wright]

I just saw that Christian McCaffrey's on Monday night Football. That means that Mike and I is.

[Jason Moore]

A matchup would be CMC vs Johnny.

[Mike Wright]

Taylor on Monday, Johnny Taylor vs CMC and George Kittle on Monday Night Football.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Puka is a just a machine. How. How is he that good?

[Mike Wright]

What is he doing?

[Jason Moore]

What is he doing different than everybody else.

[Mike Wright]

That is so strong. I saw pff talking about how he is currently with. With what was four games to go or something. He is. He has the most contested catch opportunities ever and he's caught almost all of them. He is so strong, so tough.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

He is not a fan of contact in any way shape or form. He literally got pulled off the field because the dude was cramping up.

[Jason Moore]

Cramps.

[Mike Wright]

And then he came back out like a play later and they just. They called a running play for him. It was like, like you know this guy is. It's like at his. He's cramping up like jet sweep. Give him the ball. It's like wow.

[Jason Moore]

If he dies, he dies.

[Mike Wright]

That's what it felt like. I was just like mind blown.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a tough dude. Jameson Williams 9 targets 7 for 134 and 1 JMO inside the top 104 of the last 6 weeks.

[Jason Moore]

When did Guns Mahoney take the play calling?

[Andy Holloway]

I think it was week nine.

[Mike Wright]

Jameson Williams weird.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean he had a very outlier play called back goose against the Giants. Against the Giants but 14, 20, 17, 23, 13 23. The wide receiver 8.

[Mike Wright]

If you haven't been paying attention to Jameson Williams when the year started so poorly for him and he was one of your my guys. He's my guy and it was a fail. It was like oh well dang. I can't believe I made him a my guy through settings but on the course of the season including all the bad stuff in the beginning he's the eighth highest scoring wide receiver in the NFL right now for fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

It's crazy.

[Mike Wright]

Insane.

[Andy Holloway]

It's crazy. And he's going to finish the year.

[Mike Wright]

As a wide receiver one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. Which I mean so will Almon row. They'll be together inside the top 10. It was a great performance again. I wonder what they play calling.

[Mike Wright]

When did this porta go down Because I know that that obviously helped consolidate things.

[Andy Holloway]

It did. Yeah. It was a lot. It was a lot of things.

[Jason Moore]

It was play calling since week 11. Week 10 was his last game.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean the the target if you want to look pre and post buy he was on pace for 72 targets before the buy. He's on pace for 124 targets after the buy is on pace for 700 yards before the buy. He's on Pace for 1571 yards after the buy. Double digit touchdowns. It's been a complete change. And this is, this is part of like we've had this many times. We've done the show 11 years. We've had whatever that is. 33 my guys each. It's a bet on the talent. But you, I mean, without opportunity, a guy can't get it done. I mean, DJ Moore I think was a my guy at one point in time for one of us. And it was like, well, I mean.

[Jason Moore]

This year's kind of. That's been the narrative. It's like Travion Henderson opportunity.

[Andy Holloway]

I.

[Jason Moore]

They wouldn't give him touches in the first half. He didn't in week eight take a Mario super mushroom and all of a sudden he's great at football.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he always was.

[Mike Wright]

Took injuries, remember. It wouldn't have happened for. Yeah, yeah. It wouldn't happen without injuries ahead of him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but Trevo and James, Mike and I were not feeling.

[Jason Moore]

No, not feeling good.

[Andy Holloway]

Not feeling good.

[Jason Moore]

A lot better now.

[Andy Holloway]

Feeling great. Feeling Great. Nico Collins, two touchdowns, three for 85 on this one.

[Jason Moore]

DG Moore with a. DJ Moore had two touchdowns, including one that if you watch it over and over, you don't understand. You could, you could have every angle of this touchdown reception and you'll have no idea how it works.

[Andy Holloway]

It was an M.C. escher painting. Yes. It didn't make any sense.

[Mike Wright]

He threw it.

[Jason Moore]

Are you going up or down the stairs?

[Mike Wright]

He threw it through two guys, the ball through two defender bodies. And then I didn't see DJ Moore catch it. But he had the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

He did have it at the end.

[Jason Moore]

It's like he had it in his shirt and he just like, oh, here it is.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Cortland Sutton got it done. 7 for 113 and 1. And so did Troy Franklin.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. Pat Bryant would have dominated.

[Mike Wright]

Do you think a head coach, do you think a head coach could go out to like who? David Copperfield? David Blank. Just to some magician and say illusionist.

[Jason Moore]

Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you. An illusionist and figure out a way. Jason, what about like the ultimate trick play? The ball disappears and then the guy's 10 yards down the field and whoops the balls right here. That would be amazing. What are the rules? There's no NFL rules against this.

[Jason Moore]

I won't argue.

[Mike Wright]

If all of a sudden the play and everyone's looking around for the ball, no one could find the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Listen, I think if they could secretly get the ball down the field, they'd be doing it, man.

[Mike Wright]

They have not contacted the right illusionist.

[Andy Holloway]

The JG McCarthy play was as close as you can get to that.

[Mike Wright]

Man, that just.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that looked like the ball.

[Mike Wright]

I want the camera. I want the camera to be panning and like I don't think you tuck.

[Andy Holloway]

It in your jersey like you're pregnant.

[Mike Wright]

Where is the ball? It's in the end zone.

[Jason Moore]

If anyone could do it, it's David Blaine.

[Mike Wright]

That's. You would.

[Jason Moore]

You would vomit out the football. You'd be like, what?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, unfold it.

[Jason Moore]

And then it just.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Every ref would be holding their flag, like, do I throw? What do I call?

[Andy Holloway]

These are the kind of ideas we get when you win.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean my two best ideas ever is the Yao Ming idea. I'm telling you, it would work.

[Andy Holloway]

That probably came after a win.

[Mike Wright]

And the. And the illusionist.

[Andy Holloway]

You want. Yeah, you want a seven, seven tight end.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Just go four yards out, put your hands on the ball really high, grab it and fall down. Do that 100% of plays that player.

[Jason Moore]

Will be chopped down on catch three and never play again.

[Mike Wright]

Only one way to find out. Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you're 7 7, what's your wingspan?

[Jason Moore]

Are you supposed to be 7 7? It could be a bit longer.

[Mike Wright]

It could be so.

[Andy Holloway]

But I mean like seven feet. Oh no.

[Jason Moore]

That you would have Real, real short.

[Andy Holloway]

But dunking is a ten foot hoop. Which means that all those guys could easily jump up and get the ball, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

To seven. Okay. Actually I'm discouraged by this math. No, because I thought your plan was good.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. You. Those, those cornerbacks. Those NFL cornerbacks could not get the ball.

[Jason Moore]

No, not up there. But they will. They will cut his legs down and then.

[Mike Wright]

But he's going to practice.

[Andy Holloway]

He couldn't play basketball.

[Mike Wright]

He's going to practice grabbing and falling. It'll be one.

[Jason Moore]

Also he. They're going to do the math on the amount of money they would make in the NBA versus the NFL.

[Andy Holloway]

He'll start having like friggin 7, 7 DBs to cover him.

[Jason Moore]

Our corner runs a 65 40, but he's 8ft tall.

[Andy Holloway]

So stupid. This is so stupid. Jamar Chase 16 targets 10 for 132.

[Jason Moore]

Somehow Jamar Chase came out okay while Joe Burrow was just. How many yards to Burrow have. It can't be much more than that.

[Andy Holloway]

It wasn't good. He had a turnover.

[Jason Moore]

225.

[Andy Holloway]

Chris Olave, man. Six for 185 and one quietly the wide receiver. Ten on the season.

[Mike Wright]

He Was having a disappearing act for the majority of game. Thanks, Mike. But he has look in the Tyler Schuck games the last six games. I mean, this. This is a good player.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyle Pitts, Trey McBride, Dallas Goddard, Colby Parkinson, George Kittle. It cannot be understated how good Trey McBride has been. He was 12 for 134 and 2. You pretty much can't lose with him if he keeps playing like this. Trey McBride Pretty much the recipe. Unless you. You catch some Kyle Pitts on your bench.

[Jason Moore]

That's it.

[Andy Holloway]

Either on your roster.

[Jason Moore]

But that's the thing, is Kyle Pitts like the performance legendary. You know, like the Bell, Essentially the best tight end performance in modern fantasy football history. Trey McBride's at 31 points, like Trey McBride is not that far behind.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you realize that on the season, Trey McBride is averaging 16.3. He's number one. The next closest is Kelsey.

[Mike Wright]

What?

[Jason Moore]

Wait, kelsey's the.

[Andy Holloway]

At 10.4 points per game. He's more than George, which means the third highest is Kyle Pitts. On the season, we do a fantasy truth series. We will bring up Kyle Pitts who will show up on all your platforms.

[Jason Moore]

This is total points. Okay. This isn't points per game, right?

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's points per game. It says points per game right there. Or is that total points?

[Mike Wright]

I think it's. So I'm looking at points per game. You got Tucker Kraft was technically second at 12 points per game.

[Jason Moore]

This is sorted by total.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so. But still the gap between 16 and 12 and Tucker Kraft is out and didn't get the whole year. It's just. There's no comparison right now to Trey McBride.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

But total fantasy points, which is what you're going to see at the end of the year with the ranking. Kyle Pitts is going to show up at 3 or better.

[Jason Moore]

Well, just behind.

[Andy Holloway]

He could be a 2.

[Jason Moore]

Just behind Kyle Pitts, guys. Dallas Goddard.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, and should have been 6 for.

[Andy Holloway]

72 and should have had three.

[Jason Moore]

Dropped a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he dropped the easiest touchdown I've ever seen in my life.

[Jason Moore]

I don't understand this offense.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you. Do you buy into the Colby Parkinson performance now that we have like I do. Because I do.

[Jason Moore]

For touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

I do. Well, you. You now have the number one touchdown scorer, the receiver, Devonte Adams out. And Colby Parkinson is. He has been a top ten tight end five of six weeks. Guys.

[Mike Wright]

He's.

[Jason Moore]

He is still scoring a lot. He was kind of. I think you play touchdown. It was a little. Little, you know, strange.

[Andy Holloway]

I kept watching that. It was just Weird. I understand why they ruled it. The screenshot on that was a betrayal of the truth.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because I think he was still bobbing.

[Andy Holloway]

He was bobbling the football and repossessed it when he was in the end zone.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I watched it like five times after Jason or somebody told me that.

[Jason Moore]

It just. It felt like a weird play. But yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Colby touchdowns in six weeks with devonte.

[Jason Moore]

The way that Stafford is playing Parkinson is. Is playable as a guy that you're just hoping for a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, if you got good odds.

[Mike Wright]

You look at the last six weeks, he's on pace for 17 touchdowns, but only 600 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just going to make a big difference to have no devonte Adams though.

[Jason Moore]

It will.

[Andy Holloway]

And who's picking up the slack for Adams other than Parkinson?

[Mike Wright]

Like two, two out? Well, would be the guy that I would pick up, but, you know, tbd.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I wish it would be Terence Ferguson getting on the field more. And, you know, I think he's still got a bright future, but he's not there yet.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Parkinson could ends up end up winning some titles. Let's talk duds.

[Mike Wright]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Dak threw for zero touchdowns, almost.

[Mike Wright]

300 yards and played okay. But when you rush all the touchdowns, it sucks for fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

And their season's done. Their season's.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Joe Burrow, season over as well. He had 30. Listen to the contrast to this. Joe Burrow, 39 pass attempts. Lamar Jackson, 12.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy Holloway]

Lamar Jackson completed eight passes. So I don't know, if you told me that part in the beginning of the week, I probably wouldn't have picked.

[Mike Wright]

I would not have picked Mark Andrews as my start of the week or encouraged people to play Isaiah likely. I would not personally have played both of those players because how did you not know? I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, they won handily.

[Mike Wright]

Man, that game was so, so weird. Dumb and weird. I mean, so dumb and weird.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, Dak did throw for 294. Jordan Love threw for 276 and one. But through two picks, disappointing week. That was going to be a tough matchup against Denver. Herbert. I mean, Herbert and Mahomes just took turns running away from defensive lineman in that game and looking frantic and uncomfortable the entire game. You know, the. The McConkey thing is kind of scary right now.

[Mike Wright]

They got Dallas in Dallas next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Dallas is playing okay on the defensive side.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but guys are still scoring on him.

[Mike Wright]

J.J. mcCarthy.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I get it, I get it.

[Mike Wright]

Just had a Good game.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not saying not playing. I'm just saying that lad has been. It's been tough. If you played him, I understand it.

[Mike Wright]

Sad. McConkie.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, sad and bad. Jameer Gibbs, 13 for 38. The Lions are oh and six in every game. He doesn't score a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Breeze hall couldn't do anything against Jacksonville. We were very worried about Breeze hall. Same with Genty. 9 for 35. What can you do? I mean what can you do in that situation? That is a terrible football team.

[Jason Moore]

There's. There is nothing. And you play Houston. I mean.

[Andy Holloway]

If like just call it now.

[Jason Moore]

Is Genti even playable against Houston?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know. It will obviously depend on who you have on your team. But yeah, maybe not. There's a chance that that's the a bad call.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. He will be in the place where you've got to look at your lineup and make a decision. He hasn't scored 10 points in three weeks and that's 4 6. And granted those were three good defenses, right? The Chargers, the Broncos and the Eagles, good defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

But Houston, he scored 6.4 against Dallas.

[Jason Moore]

That do so I do not envy anyone making that decision.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we'll get some start sick questions. I'm sure they're going to flood in about week 17 or sorry week 16. Ashton Genti Hampton 15 for 61. I mean that's not the end of the world. Just in score, Vidal was worse. 12 for 33. They still won the football game. That was a dog fight. Kansas City, low scoring game. I think we kind of joked about that one being low scoring. And Judkins, this was a big disappointment.

[Jason Moore]

Massively disappointed.

[Andy Holloway]

I know on Sunday Live there were some different rookies being thrown out there, Mike, and you were the most confident. You know, we all were confident in Judkins.

[Jason Moore]

Jerome Ford's on the ir. Dylan Sampson was ruled out. It's like Judkins is going to be on the field for everything.

[Mike Wright]

Three catches for negative 4 yards and only 12 carries.

[Andy Holloway]

They wanted to put the ball in Shador's hand so he could throw it to the other team.

[Jason Moore]

It if you were team Sanders. This was not the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Ken Walker has been Kenneth Crawler the last two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

It's been real bad. It's been unstoppable.

[Mike Wright]

Charbonnet was just as bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, and then Kareem Hunt and Chuba didn't do anything.

[Mike Wright]

So is Indy tough? Are they a tough run defense shutting down Walker and Charbonne?

[Jason Moore]

Indy is a good defense, but also.

[Mike Wright]

The who's Christian McCaffrey play on Monday Night Football.

[Jason Moore]

They are a tougher defense. But here's the thing. It like Seattle.

[Mike Wright]

What.

[Jason Moore]

Where are we with Seattle of now? 3. I think it's three weeks in a row of. You have one good offensive half of football.

[Mike Wright]

They.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, we haven't talked to Pete river yet. They almost lost to Philip Rivers.

[Andy Holloway]

They really.

[Jason Moore]

At home.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It took a. Just a miracle drive and a big long field goal to take the lead back while there was essentially no time left. They almost lost to Philip Rivers because the offense can't do anything. They didn't score a touchdown. It was what, five field goals? I can't remember how many they had. I don't know what the score was. Let me pull it up.

[Andy Holloway]

16, 13, maybe.

[Jason Moore]

So it was 15, 13. It was 18, 18, 16.

[Andy Holloway]

So, okay.

[Jason Moore]

They. Their offense is all field goals. Their offense is broken right now. Like, very, very broken.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I don't know what happened. It ended up being a defensive battle and Sam.

[Jason Moore]

The Sam Darnold conversation. End of season, Sam Darnold.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I.

[Mike Wright]

This is.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, look, they're probably going to keep him as their quarterback because the season. Oh, yeah. No, they will, but I am. You don't understand how quick stuff changes if you have a couple of games, if they flame out in the playoffs. He's not the quarterback of the Vikings right now, and he should have been. But recency is. Recency bias is very powerful. And if you. If you end the season and you throw three picks and for 116 yards and you flame out of the playoffs, he'll be their quarterback. But there'll be. There'll be some. What do we got in Jalen? What do we have in Milroy? There'll be some talk.

[Jason Moore]

I'm saying the rest of the. You're playing JSN no matter what. Just that I'd be feeling a little skittish here. You get the Rams. That's who the Seahawks are.

[Andy Holloway]

It's Thursday, by the way. Oh, Justin Jefferson.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Yep. Give it to me.

[Jason Moore]

Put his handle.

[Andy Holloway]

Put the Twitter handle up there. Let's get him situated. I don't know if you can zoom.

[Mike Wright]

I thought, Justin Jefferson.

[Andy Holloway]

We can digitally zoom after the fact. Is there a button for this guy?

[Mike Wright]

I thought he'd have, like, eight targets against Dallas, maybe one more. Oh, he did. I thought he could get a touchdown. Oh, he. He did. He got called back and they're not gonna stop. No, it shouldn't stop. I told you. Give it to my. Justin Jefferson is my fault. I will say this. My saving grace.

[Andy Holloway]

Hit it again.

[Mike Wright]

The thing that makes me grace.

[Jason Moore]

But no, it's a disclaimer.

[Mike Wright]

No, it's not a disclaimer. It's. Mike, you did Sunday Live.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

How many Justin Jefferson questions did you field?

[Jason Moore]

Probably.

[Mike Wright]

I don't even remember. I remember you saying on there, it's like you have like, none. Like, there's nobody's. Nobody's asking questions about Justin Jefferson.

[Jason Moore]

I did say I would probably not play him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And. Well, it's great. That's great, great advice, but I'm just happy I.

[Andy Holloway]

You made a guy. You made a guy at your start of the week that you knew no one was going to play.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. I am surprised. It's not that people didn't play him. It's what we joked about prior. We joked about it that if you had him, you didn't make the playoffs. So I think that, you know, it was like, well, yeah, all right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah, he did. But the ones that did make the playoffs, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry. Hope you got to the next round.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Addison, 2 for 66. Just four catches between the two guys. George Picken, 3 for 33.

[Mike Wright]

Giants.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. Don't. No, you don't have to do that. George.

[Andy Holloway]

George Pickens.

[Jason Moore]

What is happening?

[Andy Holloway]

It's what it's called. George Pickens. This is 100% George Pickens. His entire life. George Pickens. You talk about an illusionist.

[Jason Moore]

George.

[Andy Holloway]

He can disappear with the bus.

[Jason Moore]

George, you got three games. Don't fumble the bag, man. George, George, you need it. We all need it. Everyone needs George Pickens to be good.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the real problem is you're going to have. You're going to have this narrative that's going to form for George Pickens. There's dominance without CD Lamb, then there's some good performances with him. Then there's. I don't care about football anymore. George Pickens. And that's going to all frame how much money he gets in this offseason, whether it's a franchise tag, whatever it is. But that's been. We all joke about the fact that, why would the Steelers let this guy go? I think it wears thin over time. There are players where it does that I'm not. None of that denies the talent of George Pickens. We've had talented players.

[Jason Moore]

Twelve hundred yards and eight touchdowns so far.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, there are a lot of players that have unbelievable talent.

[Mike Wright]

I think it really comes down Josh.

[Andy Holloway]

Gordon and Kadarius, Tony, and I mean, superstars.

[Mike Wright]

It really comes down to These next three weeks. I mean, it really does. You know, he has had two bad weeks. Like, it's not the end of the world. If he comes back and finishes the year strong now, if he has five bad weeks to finish the year, then everything you're talking about, the questions, the contract he can or can't get in the off season, that'll be a big debate.

[Andy Holloway]

But I want to face the number one DB or number one team against wide receivers this next week.

[Mike Wright]

We got my. My guy, George Pickens sitting on the season at wide receiver four. You're my guy, Andy, currently sitting on the season wide receiver 8. But going completely different directions.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Who would you.

[Mike Wright]

Next year, who finishes.

[Andy Holloway]

You'd start jmo.

[Mike Wright]

Who finishes the season higher?

[Andy Holloway]

You're not playing George Pickens against the Chargers.

[Mike Wright]

I would play. No, I would. I would definitely start JMO over Pickens.

[Jason Moore]

If James playing Pittsburgh, I would probably play him.

[Andy Holloway]

It is weird because you'll never be able to correlate it, but it's like these next three games, how many millions does they matter for him? How many millions of guaranteed dollars?

[Mike Wright]

Truly, probably less than we want.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably less.

[Mike Wright]

Because the wide receiver marketplace, it's. Yeah, you covet someone with his skill set, he'll get all the money he wants.

[Jason Moore]

But, like.

[Andy Holloway]

But so weird success.

[Jason Moore]

I think that the. If he. If we do flame out here and it's just three more absolute stinkers. Do the good teams show up with the money or is it just the crap teams where it's like, okay, congratulations, you have the money.

[Andy Holloway]

Should play on the Raiders. Dude, he should be on the Raiders.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, he is a perfect Raider.

[Jason Moore]

My dynasty team needs you to shut up.

[Andy Holloway]

This was a bummer. Ted McMillan just two for 25.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And Jalen Coker has been involved. Lad McConkey two for 20. His last four games, he's had three of them with three or fewer points. And you've had missing pieces.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not like the Chargers have had some other guy step up to be dominant like Quentin Johnson was. Even out of this game, you do get to play Dallas, but then it's Houston, Denver, like lad McConkey right now. You can play him next week.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

But you better have a plan beyond that, because I don't know if Houston's the matchup you want for your championship.

[Jason Moore]

No. With the offensive line the way that it is for the Chargers, there's a Herbert, can't really be great.

[Andy Holloway]

Andrews Likely Bowers to 6 for 28. Jake Ferguson, who is banged up 2 for 16. This one sucked. Dalton Kincaid, 3 for 34.

[Mike Wright]

No, it was beautiful.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Jason was playing against Concate. I should have seen that because Dawson Knox was the one that caught the Touchdown. Tyler Warren, 3 for 19. Everyone wanted to know whether they could play him well. All Colts.

[Jason Moore]

Michael Pittman was what, three for 26. Alec Pierce, one for 16.

[Mike Wright]

Philip Rivers did not throw for 200 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'm not joking. Like, I. I can make all the throws Philip made.

[Jason Moore]

They. Yeah, we didn't really. We haven't talked much. Philip Rivers.

[Andy Holloway]

So can you.

[Jason Moore]

By the way, did you see the play where he kind of fell down and then he had to stand up and it looked so difficult.

[Mike Wright]

He slipped in the pocket. He wasn't touched. Needed to get up and continue the play. And it looked like how I get up when my knees are hurting standing.

[Jason Moore]

Up, no hands at that age. And that, to me, physical level of fitness was it. It was pretty tough.

[Andy Holloway]

And yet, I mean, I give him more credit than.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, it's so amazing what he did.

[Jason Moore]

He should have won it. It looked like the throws. It looked like that last year of Peyton Manning, where this is still a quarterback who mentally is great, can hand like, he can read defenses. He knows what's. He knows his limitations. But that ball was just everything he's got.

[Andy Holloway]

Everything he's got left now. Did you tell people to start him over? Burrow, Mike. Because that would have been the right choice.

[Jason Moore]

I did not.

[Andy Holloway]

That would have been the right.

[Mike Wright]

He scored more points than Burrow.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I did the roast.

[Andy Holloway]

I added him to one of my teams on the bench as like a leadership position. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, nice.

[Andy Holloway]

I figured.

[Mike Wright]

I think he is part of the reason you want to talk about, you know, them being in the game, that how the Colts defense played. It's probably. Philip Rivers actually made an impact there and it was probably the right move to put him in over Riley Leonard. And I was so close to winning that game.

[Andy Holloway]

I hate that, like a field goal with like 30 to 40 seconds left is like you're going to lose. That's how it feels in the NFL now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If you don't. It feels like you're. Yeah. You're probably going to lose. I mean, because the kickers make them from so far now. And like, I think. I mean, I didn't just win, so maybe my idea sucks. But I think you should narrow the uprights.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, that's.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you should bring them in, what, a foot or two each side.

[Mike Wright]

At least five yards each side.

[Andy Holloway]

Not sure Eat each.

[Jason Moore]

Well, look, what does that make it then?

[Mike Wright]

Impossible. Get kickers out of the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you say yards?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Not feet. Look, if you narrow them, you kick less field goals total because your risks go up. So you get more fourth downs, which is what people want anyways.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe. So what do you. What are you feeling about Warren and Pittman?

[Andy Holloway]

Terrible. Terrible.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you can't.

[Andy Holloway]

You see, Anthony Richardson is going to be practicing. He's been cleared medically.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think you can start a pass catching option for.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, the Colts.

[Mike Wright]

It's Jonathan Taylor and check out now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, San Francisco and Jacksonville and Houston to finish the year. It's probably. I mean, that's just going to be tough sledding for JT.

[Jason Moore]

So the width of the goal post is 18ft and 6 inches and you want to take 5 yards off of each.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think we can do that.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it would be impossible.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, it would move. The left upright would become the right and the right upright would become the left and you would have a new gap.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So I get what you said.

[Mike Wright]

It does work. Yeah, I get what you're saying. It works.

[Andy Holloway]

A yard is three feet, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So you want 15 and I think it might be wider now.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Incredible. Incredible job. Yeah. I feel horrible about all Colts fantasy players. That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's Nose. Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's, official partner of the NFL waiver wire tomorrow. Good luck in your Monday Night Football games. A lot of really important players tonight. Devon Achan. The last report I saw. By the way, Jaylen Warren expected to play.

[Mike Wright]

Expected, yeah. Take the day off, Jalen.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

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