Week 15 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, AJ Crown & #FootClanTitles

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 15 Studs & Stinkers + Weekly Rewind, AJ Crown & #FootClanTitles Release Date: December 16, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Introduction and Context

In this episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast, hosts Andy Holloway and Jason Moore delve into the intricacies of Week 15 in the fantasy football season. With championship implications looming, they analyze standout performances, disappointments, injury updates, and provide strategic advice for fantasy managers gearing up for crucial matchups in Week 16.

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Week 15 Studs and Stinkers

Studs of the Week

The hosts highlighted several players who delivered exceptional performances in Week 15:

• Kenyan Drake:
  "He has been a constant through good and bad. Four touchdowns and 137 rushing yards. He was outstanding." (23:05)

• Christian McCaffrey:
  Consistently heavy usage with almost 20 carries and multiple targets.
  "He's doing it when it matters, which is every week. Every week matters a lot for fantasy." (26:05)

• Ezekiel Elliott:
  Delivered a monster game, solidifying his status as a top performer.

• Joe Mixon:
  "25 rushing yards against New England. He's been a monster and deserves his spot as RB6." (30:06)

Stinkers of the Week

Conversely, several players underperformed significantly:

• Odell Beckham Jr.:
  "He was 8 for 66. That's like the best game of his year." (03:45)
  Beckham struggled due to injuries, prompting concerns about his future performances.

• Jarvis Landry:
  Failed to capitalize against Arizona, ending with 5 receptions for 23 yards and two touchdowns allowed by Ricky Seals-Jones.
  "I tried to tell the world you did Seal the revenge game was coming back." (04:34)

• Julio Jones:
  Despite being targeted heavily (51% target share), he managed only 20 yards and two touchdowns.
  "More than half of Matt Ryan's throws went to one guy. They also won 20 targets, two touchdowns, 134 yards. That's how you beat Adam Rank." (32:33)

• Philip Rivers:
  "Turned the ball over seven times. Everybody fumbled." (42:08)
  Rivers had a notably poor performance with multiple turnovers.

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Injury News

Injuries played a significant role in Week 15, affecting key players and influencing fantasy decisions:

• Chris Godwin:
  Ruled out with a hamstring injury.
  "He doesn't look good. I don't expect him next week." (09:23)

• Scotty Miller:
  Doubtful to play due to a re-aggravated hamstring injury, impacting Justin Watson's workload.
  "He was already dealing with a hamstring issue and now re-aggravated it." (05:37)

• Dalvin Cook:
  Suffered a shoulder re-injury, raising concerns about his availability and impact moving forward.
  "He might play, but it is a re-aggravation of the same shoulder that he already re-aggravated." (10:26)

• Derek Henry:
  Limited to 86 rushing yards with no receptions, viewed as a dud despite significant yardage.
  "If you don't score when you're Derek Henry, then you're a dud game." (43:53)

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League Updates

The hosts shared updates from their respective fantasy leagues, celebrating achievements and sharing competitive insights:

• Jason Moore:
  Achieved a spot in multiple championship games across different leagues, including defeating NFL Network's Adam Rank.
  "We managed to knock off NFL network's Adam Rank and we are now in the championship game of league one." (06:31)

• Mike Wright ("The Fantasy Hitman"):
  Advancing to the listener league title game, positioning himself for an additional championship spot.
  "Mike made it to the listener league title game, which is really good news for the foot clan." (06:22)

• Dynasty League:
  Jason Moore is poised for the title game in their dynasty league, highlighting strategic depth in long-term management.
  "I'm facing Jamie Eisenberg. Many of you out there know the CBS people. They're amazing. And I'm going to beat him." (07:51)

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Player Performance Analysis

Quarterbacks

• Jameis Winston:
  Emerged as a reliable QB despite initial doubts about his decisions and injuries; consistent performance highlighted.
  "How in the world do you not play Jameis Winston? You. You. How in the world would you bench Jameis Winston?" (15:29)

• Patrick Mahomes:
  Delivered a top-five quarterback performance with 340 yards and two touchdowns in a challenging snow game.
  "340 yards and two touchdowns in a blizzard is very impressive." (16:54)

• Ryan Tannehill:
  Showcased strong leadership and passing efficiency, leading the NFL in yards per attempt since Week nine.
  "Ryan Tannehill put together a wonderful game again, 279 and two. One pick had a rushing touchdown." (17:01)

• Aaron Rodgers:
  Had an underwhelming game with 200 yards and one touchdown, leading to considerations about his reliability.
  "200 yards, one touchdown. That's a bust." (40:15)

Running Backs

• Saquon Barkley:
  Continued to impress with consistent yardage and touchdowns, reinforcing his status as a top RB.

• Ezekiel Elliott:
  Delivered a standout performance, anchoring his fantasy value with significant rushing yards and touchdowns.

• Joe Mixon:
  Despite a challenging schedule, maintained excellent performance metrics, keeping him as a vital asset.
  "He's been a monster and deserves his spot as RB6." (30:06)

Wide Receivers

• A.J. Brown:
  Described as a "tank" for his physical prowess and consistent target volume.
  "Bigger and stronger than a tank. How about AJ Brown?" (18:30)

• Terry McLaurin:
  Evolved into a reliable option with increasing target shares, though facing offensive instability.
  "He's outstanding. And over the last several weeks, I have moved him down in my rankings week after week." (33:15)

• Julio Jones:
  Despite high target shares, his performance was inconsistent, leading to potential concerns about reliability.
  "More than half of Matt Ryan's throws went to one guy. They also won 20 targets, two touchdowns, 134 yards." (32:33)

Tight Ends

• George Kittle:
  Dominated the game with 17 targets and impressive yardage, making him a top-tier tight end option.
  "George Kittle got everything. And when you look at his percentage of yardage, he was the offense and he was awesome." (37:10)

• Darren Waller vs. Hunter Henry:
  Highlighted the unpredictability of tight end performances, with Waller delivering a stellar game while Henry underperformed post-trade.
  "Darren Waller had 8 receptions for 122 yards on 10 targets. Hunter Henry ended up just 2 for 29." (53:32)

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Strategic Insights and Conclusions

As the fantasy football season edges towards its climax, the hosts emphasize the importance of adaptability and informed decision-making:

• Adapt to Injuries:
  With key players like Chris Godwin and Scotty Miller sidelined, managers must pivot to reliable backups like Bashad Perryman and Justin Watson.

• Trust in Consistency:
  Players like Jameis Winston and Christian McCaffrey demonstrate the value of consistency and reliability in securing championship positions.

• Evaluate Matchups:
  Analyzing upcoming matchups is crucial, especially in divisional games where defensive strengths like Kansas City's secondary can impact wide receiver performances.

• Monitor Player News:
  Staying updated with player news, such as Aaron Rodgers' and Julian Edelman's performances, can guide lineup decisions and prevent costly mistakes.

• Leverage Studs:
  Maximizing the potential of studs like Kenyan Drake and Patrick Mahomes can provide the necessary edge in high-stakes matchups.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jason Moore on Jameis Winston:
  "How in the world do you not play Jameis Winston? You. You. How in the world would you bench Jameis Winston." (15:29)

• Andy Holloway on Odell Beckham Jr.:
  "He was 8 for 66. That's like the best game of his year." (03:45)

• Jason Moore on Joe Mixon:
  "He's been a monster and deserves his spot as RB6." (30:06)

• Andy Holloway on George Kittle:
  "George Kittle got everything. And when you look at his percentage of yardage, he was the offense and he was awesome." (37:10)

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Closing Remarks

As Week 15 concludes, the Fantasy Footballers hosts encourage listeners to stay engaged with their fantasy teams, leveraging insights and adapting strategies based on player performances and injury reports. With the championship races heating up, making informed decisions is paramount to securing victory in the final stretch of the season.

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Note: Timestamps refer to the original podcast transcript for reference.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Oh, welcome in.

[Andy Holloway]

It's championship time.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe we've still got a Monday night game.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason, you know that's weird because there are people out there that have not concluded the, the, this last week of playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

That's, that's true.

[Andy Holloway]

But we are in a lot of leagues, right? I mean we're, we're, we're professionals. We play many, many. Every single matchup that I'm in across the board, it's all decided already.

[Jason Moore]

Not a lot of people with Colts, I would say this week, interactive lineup if maybe you're waiting on Pascal tonight, but otherwise Marlon Mack and then you got a lot of people with Saints.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's true. Certainly have to be a lot of Drew Brees, Michael Thomas, Alvin Camara. People out there hoping for big games and hoping for bad games.

[Jason Moore]

Well, there were a number of huge games this past weekend, so I think a lot of battles became decided because of some monster performances. And we'll we put the word out there trying to get a little Monday punday action to get your reaction from the weekend. It was a fun one. It was interesting. There are some major implications in terms of Week 16 Championship games based on injuries that took place, some playoff situations going on, but let's jump right in. By the way, it is a two man band today.

[Andy Holloway]

We're upgraded.

[Jason Moore]

I guess that's offensive to. Yeah, man. I said to man bands.

[Andy Holloway]

He did say that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So calm down. But Jason and I with you today. Let's get into the most sophisticated segment of the week. Christian Mc championship. Oh, he was so good.

[Andy Holloway]

Odell Rectum Jr. Oh no. So good. Anthony Thriller, Emmanuel Blanders, Doo Doo Samuel.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, come on.

[Andy Holloway]

AJ Crown.

[Jason Moore]

So close to a crown. Thanks to AJ Brown, Christmas Carson, Brashad.

[Andy Holloway]

Perry Christmas Brashad Merryman, Smiles Sanders.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, yeah. And then more sophisticated than the rest.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Pooleon Edelman.

[Andy Holloway]

Hope you didn't have Odell Rectum Jr.

[Jason Moore]

And they might have. They might have. We had the Odell. Odell is so attached to a three for 30 like that is. He says he's playing the last two weeks with the injury but he just wants three catches for around 30 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Why not want more?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I.

[Jason Moore]

It's Arizona secondary.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't believe that that's all he wants. I actually believe that Odell Beckham is trying to do more than that.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, but it's not working.

[Andy Holloway]

But he can't. He. He's clearly. I mean I know he's going to get the surgery. He's injured. We all know he's injured. I have been as this entire season the anti Odell Beckham thought he was over.

[Jason Moore]

He garbage timed way more than I thought he did. Yeah, he was actually 8 for 66.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh good.

[Jason Moore]

That's like the best game of his year.

[Andy Holloway]

It's probably his third or fourth best game of the year.

[Jason Moore]

Man, there were some stinkers this week. Arizona such a good matchup and Jarvis Landry didn't get the memo. Why? I don't know what Jarvis rhyme Brooks but it belonged there. There's something there that's on you. There's something gross that happened with Jarvis Landry. 5 for 23 against Arizona. Of course they gave up two touchdowns to Ricky Seals Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

I tried to tell the world you did Seal the revenge Seal game was coming back.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, we've got garbage Landry. Thank you, Brooks. Thank you. Like instead of Jarvis. No, I get it. It's garbage.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was right from the get go. I got it.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, you made me two bats and they were against Prashad Perryman. How do you feel about that one, cowboy?

[Andy Holloway]

Bad about that one. Because it's not often that someone goes out and gets a hat trick like.

[Jason Moore]

Number one wide receiver of the week, Rashad Perryman versus Justin Watson or Alan Hearns. I owe.

[Andy Holloway]

I owe Bershad Perryman an apology. I really do. Because I was not kind to him with no words because now in my defense that's because of a career of sucking. However, he dominated this week and now there are such massive questions for Week 16 championship with Brashad Perryman with Jameis Winston. You have no weapons there. Chris Godwin went down. Looks like that's going to be pretty serious.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's not playing again this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Evans is done. Scotty Miller, the guy that got in the way of superstar Justin Watson.

[Jason Moore]

Did you know Brooks, those are all hamstring injuries. Yeah, that's wild. All three. What are they doing there?

[Andy Holloway]

They're not drinking enough water. That's my guess. I think is Dehydration and running too fast. Someone is coming up on the sideline and just sliced in the back of his legs.

[Jason Moore]

We'll talk about. That's scary. We'll talk about Jameis Winston. We've got studs and stinkers on the show today and what to do because it doesn't make sense what's going on with the weapons there. And people are going to have to make a Week 16 championship decision. Congratulations to all of you that did make it through this week that already know you're victorious.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Jason made it into. We had a good week.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. Yeah. We got to get a little toot tootie. This is awesome. Foot Clan.

[Jason Moore]

We managed to knock off NFL network's Adam Rank and we are now in the championship game of league one.

[Andy Holloway]

He put up a monster game. I don't know if you're aware of this. Every single, single one of his players scored a touchdown with the sole exception of Travis Kelsey, who dominated just without a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

And he had Lamar Jackson. And we managed to win by what, 10? Something like that.

[Andy Holloway]

How good are we? Are we that good?

[Jason Moore]

I think we must be.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, what about in the league where we play against juju, Smith, Schuster and.

[Jason Moore]

Well, this week we faced Zac Efron on the sleeper bowl league, and that's $50,000 to charity if we win that and we're in the championship game.

[Andy Holloway]

What? We beat Efron. He's so handsome. It didn't even matter if you got handsome points. We would lose, though. We would lose big because I'm on the team, so it's like.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, and he's very good looking.

[Andy Holloway]

My wife tells me every day that I'm no Efron.

[Jason Moore]

Right. Which is a weird thing to say when you wake up in the morning.

[Andy Holloway]

Wake up, hey, honey, you're no Efron, but keep working. But keep working.

[Jason Moore]

And then Mike made it to the listener league title game, which is really good news for the foot clan because if Mike wins the listener league, there's an extra spot because the winner of the listener league stays around for next year. And Mike's on the precipice of just beating everybody. So there's that. And then, Jason, you also made it in our dynasty league. You're in the title game for back.

[Andy Holloway]

To back if Mike wins.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That would mean three of the last five years we took down the championship.

[Jason Moore]

Thank goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you're darn right. You're darn right. Yeah. And I'm in on in the dynasty.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, and I made the Championship game in our CBS league. I'm facing Jamie Eisenberg. Many of you out there know the CBS people. They're amazing. And I'm going to beat him.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been a good season.

[Jason Moore]

All right, reminder, find us on Twitter at the ffballers instagram.com fantasy footballers, we're with you all week long. The fantasy footballers.com jointhefoot.com is our fantasy football community. We actually just posted that video on Saturday. Nice job. Al Borland filming cutting that. Thank you. Also, congrats on taking credit for wrapping all of the presents that we gave away. Shout out to fact your wife.

[Andy Holloway]

You took credit and we found out the truth.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Oh, I mean, I know you participated, but I wondered why they looked so professionally wrapped.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, she wrapped about 10 to everyone that I wrapped.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, it's injury news that we have to talk about. We mentioned Chris Godwin and Scotty Miller both ruled out with a hamstring injury. Chris Godwin, you know, according to Bruce Arians, it doesn't look good. I don't expect him next week. Scotty Miller's doubtful for next week already. And so here you are with superstar Justin Watson needing to carry an entire receiving core. And O.J. howard. And O.J. howard, who will be targeted, as will the tight. The tight ends on that team.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, Cameron Bray, O.J. howard, they both might be in play here with Scotty Miller out. Justin Watson, all jokes aside, I he could be in play for someone you pick up. Obviously, Bashad Perryman becomes the number one. Based on this last week and the injuries, this is a re aggravation for Scott Miller. He was already dealing with a hamstring issue and now re aggravated it. When that happens, it's almost a guarantee to miss the following week. So I expect them to be without Mike Evans, without Chris Godden, without Scotty Miller. And that means it's Prashad Perryman and Justin Watson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And O.J. howard, Cameron Braid. I wouldn't be surprised if Ronald Jones and Peyton Barber have more receptions out of the backfield. It's going to be interesting. And then when you look at the other injury. The big one was Dalvin Cook. I mean, Dalvin Cook suffered a re injury of the shoulder, didn't return. How is Dalvin Cook going to be remembered for fantasy purposes now? Well, for this great season, he might have cost you a title getting re injured.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe. Maybe. I mean, this will be a really interesting thing to monitor now. He was in great spirits on the sideline. Didn't seem like he was worried about his future or downtrodden at all. We haven't had any updates yet come out as to what the expected timeline is. I mean, I'm not guaranteeing that he's out this week. He might play, but it is a re aggravation of the same shoulder that he already re aggravated that he got surgery on in college. Like this is happening over and over. And then Alexander Madison, the league winner, if Cook goes down, was obviously already out this game.

[Jason Moore]

He's got an ankle injury, so. So now Mike Boone scores.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Mike Boone and he looked pretty good, but of course you've always got the Abdullah Express there.

[Jason Moore]

They're at home. Divisional game against the Vikings. Amir Abdullah probably ends up handling a ton of work along with Mike Boone next week.

[Andy Holloway]

They're playing the Vikings this week. That's a tough match.

[Jason Moore]

Is that what I said?

[Andy Holloway]

Play yourself?

[Jason Moore]

I meant the Packers. Divisional matchup with the Packers.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Jason Moore]

It's a different team.

[Andy Holloway]

Thankfully, it's a much easier team to run on.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, we'll see. We're going to have to make a determination based on the Cook updates whether Madison's returning as to where we go for the potential pivot because it could be an opportunity for somebody to get into the end zone. They smashed the Chargers this week. Philip Rivers, he did not look good. Philip Rivers career is on the way out ski.

[Andy Holloway]

Philip Rivers looked like the man that took me out of the league of record playoffs with that interception.

[Jason Moore]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm happy that he looked that way.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, come on. You don't hold grudges, right? It's fantasy football. You never hold a grudge.

[Andy Holloway]

I honestly shouldn't, but I really do. I'm definitely going to get a picture made of him for one of our bathrooms. Maybe replace Greg Olson. I've been hurt.

[Jason Moore]

You're defining holding a grudge. I think that's what you're doing.

[Andy Holloway]

That's right. What you do is you get a photograph printed and you put them up in restrooms.

[Jason Moore]

Right. Jared Cook expected to play tonight T by Hilton. A game time decision. I didn't rank him in A way where I was going to count on him this week trending in the right direction. But last time he played on a game time decision, he had very limited snaps. It's the Saints. I'm not excited. I doubt many people like if you're sitting there tonight and you had. Let's say you picked up Zach Pascal because you had Hilton, so you wanted to take advantage of the situation. And both players are active. If both players, where do you go?

[Andy Holloway]

That's a great question. If both players are active and I've got those two, I would go Ty Hilton, he is the more talented guy. He will take targets away from Pascal. Pascal needs the volume, you know, he needs the 10 targets to go his way, I think to end up with a solid game. And I don't think he gets those if Ty Hilton's taking five or six targets away.

[Jason Moore]

I had lean Pascal myself.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, hopefully Ty Hilton doesn't play because I don't think people out there are wanting to rely on Hilton.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, more people relying on Pascal to have a high workload.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. And if Ty Hilton doesn't play, Pascal should be a pretty solid option.

[Jason Moore]

All right, weekly rewind news and notes brought to you by the sleeper app. Let's get into the studs.

[Andy Holloway]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Fortunately, fortunately, if you, if you went up against Lamar Jackson like we did, who by the way, was amazing. We know this, we've talked about it. He's incredible.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the year of the Lamar.

[Jason Moore]

But Jameis Winston going into this week had been the second best quarterback over the last three or four weeks. He was your best shot at surviving, in my opinion. I was all about him all week.

[Andy Holloway]

You were on Sunday Live for Mike and even without Mike Evans and with the thumb issue, you were telling everyone, you absolutely have to start Jameis Winston. It definitely felt dicey, but I hope you did because he was pretty good. I love this. It's unbelievable how consistent he can be. Comes out, first thing he does, throws a pick. I mean, it's every.

[Jason Moore]

Get it out of the way. Nobody's ever tried that strategy.

[Andy Holloway]

Arians is telling him at this point, that has to be coaching.

[Jason Moore]

Just throw it to the opposing team.

[Andy Holloway]

Start in a hole. I want to throw the ball more. The media is going to get, you know, down my back. If I'm not running enough, throw the ball. The other team, I want to start in a hole so I can play my office.

[Jason Moore]

So the game script is perfect for the passing, but Winston was 28 for 42458 and 4. It's without Mike Evans. It's with most of Chris Godwin. Five receptions for Godwin and then no Scotty Miller after the touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

He's the biggest question. We were talking about this before we turn on the microphones here. The biggest question I have this next week is I have two. The two biggest questions I have is how in the world. How in the world do you not play Jameis Winston? You. You. How in the world would you bench Jameis Winston? And then my second biggest question is how in the world can you play Jameis Winston with no wide receivers? It's not possible for him to keep doing this, right?

[Jason Moore]

I think it is.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it is, too.

[Jason Moore]

And it's Houston.

[Andy Holloway]

I know, I know.

[Jason Moore]

And it's at home. So you're playing him. I think we just decided.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we did.

[Jason Moore]

I think we just figured it out.

[Andy Holloway]

But when he collapses and costs Saturday prime time. Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Or not prime time, but it's the early. There's three games on Saturday this week at least.

[Andy Holloway]

Honestly, truly, I would want that. If I have to go with James as my quarterback. The range of outcomes are so wide. I want to know. I want a day head start. You know what I mean? I want to know what happened in my quarterback position before I have.

[Jason Moore]

Doesn't hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

Decide everything else.

[Jason Moore]

No. And then, I mean, he has Atlanta in the final week of the season. So if you go through week 17.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry, sorry.

[Jason Moore]

But you also have a decent match up there. Patrick Mahomes, very nice game against Denver in the snow. 340 and 2. Ended up a top five quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

340 yards and two touchdowns in a blizzard is very impressive.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Tyreek Hill kind of helps Travis Kelsey as well.

[Andy Holloway]

We were talking about the fact that it's really become, you know, at the beginning of the year as it was just start anyone and everyone that's a chief. And now it's just. It's Kelsey, it's Tyreek, and you're going to be good with either of those two guys. But, you know, a lot of people.

[Jason Moore]

Wanted to know whether they were pivoting off of. That was another Sunday Live question. Do you pivot off of Chiefs players in the snow?

[Andy Holloway]

Not those guys, no.

[Jason Moore]

I was pivoting off of Broncos, but I wasn't pivoting off of Chiefs at home. Ryan Tannehill put together a wonderful game again, 279 and two. One pick had a rushing touchdown and he's leading the NFL, leading the quarterback position in yards per attempt since Week nine, as tweeted by Scott Barrett. That's above Jameis. So he's not just, like, dumping it to Deon Lewis and waiting to see what happens. He's driving it down the field to A.J. crown.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, A.J. crown.

[Jason Moore]

And how good is he? And how huge is he?

[Andy Holloway]

He.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Josh Allen needs an A.J. brown on the. On the Bills outside wide receiving core, I believe I called him huge, man.

[Andy Holloway]

I called him a tank, and I just don't. I don't think that was big enough.

[Jason Moore]

I thought you called Derek Henry a tank. No, it was A.J.

[Andy Holloway]

Brown.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, they're both. Are they both tanks?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, let's. Yeah. I mean, they're both tankish, for sure. I'm gonna. But let me try this one on for size. Bigger and stronger than a tank. How about AJ Brown?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

The cybertruck.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, gosh, no. Rear view mirror. Yeah, he's great. He's been playing great, and they're putting it in his hands now. They lost, so they're. They're battling right now. They're out of the playoffs. So you like that for fantasy. You like teams that are. Have something to play for, and Tennessee needs to win the nice thing, and they need. They need Pittsburgh to lose.

[Andy Holloway]

The Steelers lost as well, so they are, you know, very much still in the picture. So this is a perfect situation for, you know, if you've been relying on these weapons, this is exactly what you're hoping for.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And next week, it's, you know, they're at home, but it's the Saints, so we'll see what happens. Saints still fighting, you know, number one seed right now in the nfc. You know who it is, right?

[Andy Holloway]

In the nfc? The number one seed.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Seattle has the number one seed right now.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. That's pretty crazy.

[Jason Moore]

Also, Carson Wentz.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what the name I was going to bring.

[Jason Moore]

Gosh, I don't. I don't know how to describe Carson Wentz.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, he's been bad. It's not his fault.

[Jason Moore]

But he's been good, though, you know?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he's been good for fantasy, and statistically. And they've won the last two games. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And they win on the last play of the game. And he puts up a nice fantasy game, so he ends up being a.

[Andy Holloway]

Student, but then he looks bad for a lot of it.

[Jason Moore]

But you. Yeah, he kind of smells bad, but.

[Andy Holloway]

He has nobody to throw the ball to. It's really confusing.

[Jason Moore]

It is.

[Andy Holloway]

Now you've got an unbelievable game coming up. I can't wait I mean NFL real, not fantasy, just. I can't wait for that game.

[Jason Moore]

And Dallas has to go on the road now to Philly. Like if Dallas is at home with what they just did to the Rams, I would think Philadelphia has no shot. But now they're at home against Dallas. What Dallas team shows up? I can't wait for that game.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it right now, call it not even knowing the line, just an over or an under game. Is it a, is it a divisional scrap heap?

[Jason Moore]

It's under low scoring, I think it's under.

[Andy Holloway]

I hope you're wrong.

[Jason Moore]

But the Philadelphia Eagles, I mean on any given play, I mean McLaurin, they made Dwayne Haskins a top 10 quarterback this week. So maybe I'm wrong.

[Andy Holloway]

They said it couldn't be.

[Jason Moore]

I know. Ryan Fitzpatrick, nice game too.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

Talk about one of my all time favorite players. He has been attached to me through good and bad. I have constantly said, I don't know how to quit you, even when I've been mocked because I think he's a great player. Kenyon Drake. Kenyon, great. Holy moly. Four touchdowns, 137 rushing yards. He was outstanding.

[Jason Moore]

He should have. He could have had five. They were on the goal line at the end of the game and they wanted five for him. I right after we talked about Kenyan Drake and David Johnson last week, news came out here. We're in Arizona, we see all this, we get the vibes for management and general manager Steve Keim and what's taking place here. And David Johnson's been very unhappy. And last week he caught a touchdown pass, but he only touched the ball five times. Well, right after the show, it comes out that Steve Keim is not committing to David Johnson, even coming back to Arizona next year. And then you go out and you give basically every piece of work to Kenyon Drake, who will be a free agent, who I now believe Arizona will resign. I believe Kenyon Drake will be an Arizona Cardinal next year. I believe Chase Edmonds will back him up and I believe David Johnson will be cut. And that's a sad day, right? I mean, Brooks, you're nodding and you're wearing your Santa hat and it's not a jolly moment. Yeah, we sing his name on the.

[Andy Holloway]

Show many a time, but I think.

[Jason Moore]

Kenyan Drake comes back to Arizona and because he's a better fit for this system with Cliff Kings Ray than anybody else. I think they went out and got him on purpose because he was a fit.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I definitely think they got him on purpose.

[Jason Moore]

Well, do you know what I'm saying? Like it wasn't just an opportunistic thing where Kenya Drake's on the block with Miami and we're just going to. He got two injuries so we're going to add him to the roster. I think it's intentional with long term view.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, I do agree. I think they saw that David Johnson has really lost a step. They knew they needed to make a change. They probably listen to this show, probably have heard me talk about how electric Kenyon Drake is in real life. And now look, all he had to do was get away from Adam Gase and he is a superstar.

[Jason Moore]

You mean like Devontae Parker had to.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, once he. He was with Adam Gase, didn't he?

[Jason Moore]

What about Ryan Tannehill?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, he stunk with Gase.

[Jason Moore]

Now Devontae Parker, by the way, wasn't in the news. Just signed a four year extension.

[Andy Holloway]

40 million.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, 40 million.

[Andy Holloway]

Good for you. Good for you.

[Jason Moore]

And had another monster game which we'll talk about shortly. So Christian McCaffrey.

[Andy Holloway]

He'S good 10 targets, almost 20 carries. He gets the ball infinity every time he touches it. He does very well. He loves to do touchdowns and he's.

[Jason Moore]

A big fan of doing touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a big fan of doing touchdowns. He likes doing them.

[Jason Moore]

Cool.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean the truth is he's Keith's Christian make championship. Yeah, he is the deservedly right Pick at the 101 this past year and.

[Jason Moore]

And next year and next year.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's doing it when it matters, which is every week. Every week is matters a lot matters for fantasy. But you know, sometimes you get those players that they have this great season last. Last year, right? Pat Mahomes had the most unbelievable fantasy season. You had the Pat Mahomes, Tyreek Hill stack.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And it was unbelievable. He was great the whole season except week 15, I believe.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's when I lost.

[Andy Holloway]

This past week he had a bust game where all of a sudden all of the Pat Mahomes owners were talking.

[Jason Moore]

About last week last year. Oh, I got you. Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Last year, week 15 and then they were out. But Christian McCaffrey is saying, nope, hop on the back to the touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

It was a Studs kind of week. Ezekiel Elliott with a monster game. Saquon Barkley finally had a humongous game.

[Andy Holloway]

Just took the Dolphins.

[Jason Moore]

Just took the Dolphins. And then Chris Carson. Let's go 24 for 133 and two.

[Andy Holloway]

Now here's the thing. You guaranteed top five.

[Jason Moore]

Where's he at right now?

[Andy Holloway]

He can't four, five.

[Jason Moore]

I think he. I think he's there.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm going to check you.

[Jason Moore]

You check. We'll give credit to Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders was 19 for 122 and 1. I bet you Chris Carson's right at 5.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's outside. I think. Which. Which is just. Because that's obviously not fair.

[Jason Moore]

That's all relative to what's around him. And you had some big games. I think it's close. But what I'm looking at here, you know, Saquon 24 for 112 and two. Zeke 24 for one.

[Andy Holloway]

He's six.

[Jason Moore]

Who's ahead of him? Oh, Drake.

[Andy Holloway]

Drake, McCaffrey, Sanders, Elliot and Saquon.

[Jason Moore]

Not if it's a. He's number one. If it's a Seattle only league.

[Andy Holloway]

That is factual.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Mark Ingram, nice game. Nick Chubb, bunch of big runs against Arizona, got into the end zone. Tony Pollard, who I don't think any fantasy owner could ever play, but for the second time this year put up 100 in the same game that Ezekiel Elliott put up 100. So Pollard is interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

So that was his second hundred yard rushing game of the season. That is now two more.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Than Todd Gurley and Le'Veon Bell combined.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, Gurley has no hundred yard on the ground games.

[Andy Holloway]

That is correct.

[Jason Moore]

Based on that mathematics there, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Gurley, here's the funniest thing with Todd.

[Jason Moore]

Gurley had a terribly good.

[Andy Holloway]

Gurley sucked. He had 20 yards. He had 20 rush.

[Jason Moore]

I thought it was a typo to see him in the studs, but he scored twice.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, he had 18 receiving yards, so collectively could not get to 40 yards. But when you get two touchdowns, your fantasy day is safe. And Rams. Everybody relying on the Rams. Oh, my goodness. What garbage.

[Jason Moore]

No, no. Everybody let you down. Everybody. Golf cooks. Really. But then garbage time.

[Andy Holloway]

But yes. But then garbage time happened. It's like, oh, cup ended up fine. He got a touchdown when. And the little dump offs on the last couple drives when they didn't matter. Gurley got to. Goff was fine.

[Jason Moore]

Woods. Woods was a pure bust. Woods was devastating bust.

[Andy Holloway]

Huge disappointment.

[Jason Moore]

Four for 17. But yeah, garbage time is powerful. Mike Boone ended up with two touchdowns, also at 56 yards running. They can run the ball there. So if Madison is out Again, Mike Boone is the most trusted over Amir Abdullah by that team. So Boone would be the pickup.

[Andy Holloway]

We make the jokes of Abdullah because of the Abdullah Express, but Mike Boone is definitely the guy. But it could be Madison and it could be Cook. So stay tuned for tomorrow's show.

[Jason Moore]

And he just keeps doing it. Joseph Mixon, you love him. 25 for 136 against New England. They keep giving him the ball. The game was competitive for a while until New England defense time. But I mean, he's been a monster. He's. He's the RB6 since week eight on the worst team in football. That's all I'm. That shouldn't happen unless you're great.

[Andy Holloway]

No. And not only are they a bad team, it really shouldn't be happening because one, they're a bad team. Two, they also have a bad offensive line and three, he's not that involved in the passing game. Not that he's not involved, but like he's not Saquon last year where he's getting 10 targets every game, that was how he was saved when he was on a bad team with a bad offensive line. How Joe Mixon is constantly doing this is just superhuman.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And what's crazy is that he was so bad the first half of the year, averaging 36 rushing yards per game through the first seven weeks of the season. People were cutting Joe Mixon. What? How did he.

[Jason Moore]

I traded for him at that point in the season because it was just worth the shot, worth the shot on the talent. And here he is.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like. I feel like if we broke into his home, we could find the lamp. We could, we could find. And we would get our own three wishes because he must have found this about week seven.

[Jason Moore]

I still think his ears a little deceptive. That's all I'm saying. I think he had a couple games that were so bad that you couldn't even look at the box score without throwing up. Like when he scored, I don't know when he had like 10 yards rushing. Right. And he. And he didn't do anything for a couple of these games and then he just turned it on. So looking to next year, you imagine this team is going to give it to him again.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

What are you looking at?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sorry, I was distracted by a comment from our editor in chief, Kyle the Borgogan. Do you know he's going to be in the championship in our Dyno Junior league?

[Jason Moore]

I do. He. He's got the team with what, the.

[Andy Holloway]

Lowest points scored, lowest Points scored. His team is straight trash.

[Jason Moore]

He has Kenyan Drake, huh?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, Kenyan. He's been riding the Kenyon Drake. I mean, he had Melvin Gordon go out there and put up five points. He had. He had Justin Watson in his lineup and he's.

[Jason Moore]

Is that your fault?

[Andy Holloway]

I hope so. I hope so. But Justin Watson, now, next week will probably be great because he's in his lineup.

[Jason Moore]

It's just to win a title.

[Andy Holloway]

To win a title.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Big time receiving options this week, Julio. Multiple touchdown Jones. Look, we got him on the phone.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

We told it to him straight, and then he caught and then he was targeted. Do you know what his target share was? Did you hear about it?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know the share because I don't know how percentages work, but I do know the number and it's unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, his target share was 51%.

[Andy Holloway]

So more than half. More than half of Matt Ryan's throws went to one guy. They also won 20 targets, two touchdowns, 134 yards. That's how you beat Adam Rank. Thank you, Julio.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. Thank you. Rashad Perryman. We mentioned it. 5 for 113 and 3. Currently, Perryman's hamstring is intact and well. Right. Give it a week, Jameson. The targets are going to be there for Perryman next week. 10 or more. Jameson Crowder, we saw the Thursday game. 6 for 90 and 2. Just forget about him. Pittsburgh next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Terry McClaurin, he's so good.

[Andy Holloway]

He is outstanding. And over the last several weeks, I have moved him down in my rankings week after week after week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The Haskins effect.

[Andy Holloway]

The Haskins effect. And until this last week, it has been good. It has worked out. Telling people, please do not start Terry McLaurin. Hope you started him, but I wouldn't blame you. I wouldn't. He wouldn't have been in my lineup. And now is really like, okay, I don't know what to do, because now you've seen a little bit of connection. Dwayne Haskins actually looked good when he got to play a really poor defense.

[Jason Moore]

No, he's got Giants next week, and.

[Andy Holloway]

Now he's got the giants.

[Jason Moore]

I think McLaren's in your lineup, probably. He's got too much big playability. He's had Those monstrous plays three or four times this year. Tyree Kill, 5 for 67 and 2. The tandem of Anthony Miller and Alan Robinson, once again, huge performances. 14 targets for Robinson, 15 targets for Miller. Kansas City next week. Tough secondary, but they're at home. And Miller has just. You're Kind of riding the on fire philosophy with both these guys.

[Andy Holloway]

It will be very, very interesting because Kansas City on paper, you look at it and you think this is a great matchup. Kansas City can score. You're going to need to throw the ball and it hasn't worked out that way over the last 10. Now 11 weeks, Kansas City is the number one worst matchup for wide receivers scoring fantasy points.

[Jason Moore]

So it's going to be what Cortland Sutton thought.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's going to be a real push comes to shove situation. When you're talking about Anthony Miller, Alan Robinson, he's got enough of a history where you just lock him in. Anthony Miller is four weeks in a row of being just a really solid option.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And I think that again, the reason that I liked Miller heading into the Detroit game was simply due to the massive target share. And nothing about this past week changed it. 15 targets. If Kansas City can be great, but if the only players you can throw the football to are Alan Robinson and Anthony Miller and you give them 12 targets each, I'm probably going to be happy with the result.

[Andy Holloway]

So you're saying if Taylor Gabriel continues to be out, correct, that Anthony Miller would be in your lineup?

[Jason Moore]

I think he would be. Well, let me ask you this. Anthony Miller against Kansas City, Terry McClure against the Giants.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's kind of a safety versus ceiling situation.

[Jason Moore]

Miller's been a top 12 guy now two out of three weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go with Terry McLaurin.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. It's close.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I want upside in my championship.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, Tyler Lockett's back. Eight for one, 20 and one on nine targets. He got word this past week that he was feeling better and was going to be used in this offense. And that means a lot to fantasy owners. It means a lot to Russell Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

Owners gets to play Arizona at home this coming week.

[Jason Moore]

That's nice.

[Andy Holloway]

He's go for launch.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, 13 targets for A.J. brown. 8 for 1. 14 and 1. 7 targets and 2 touchdowns for Devonte Parker. Both of those guys emerging this year and delivering in your playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Weekend and week out, you. You can't take them out of your lineup.

[Jason Moore]

Devonte Adams. Hello. Nice to see you. 7 for 103 and 1. Chris Conley, 4 for 49 and 2. Mike was all over Conley as the better play out of that. Dee Dee Conley Stack. Now, it wasn't a, you know, high volume situation, but two touchdowns was two touchdowns and then Kenny Stills, two touchdowns that no one on this earth is all coming but three targets, two touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

He wanted to wait until Will Fuller was there so he could only get three targets so he could have his big game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. When no one played him. Kelsey Kittle, Higby Waller Ertz and Ricky Seals Jones, those are your studs at the tight end position. 17 targets for George Kittle. You remembered earlier we said Debo and Emmanuel. Terrible games. Well, that's. This is where the ball went.

[Andy Holloway]

George Kittle got everything. And when you look at his percentage of yardage, he was the offense and he was awesome.

[Jason Moore]

You still have the fantasy finishes up for this week. Jason, are you able to look at tight end?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because I'm curious. Mark Andrews versus Higby was one of the big decisions people were making. You know, do you put Andrews out there with Lamar on Thursday or do you roll Higby? It worked out for you in both situations. I'm just curious which guy ended up on top. Tyler Higby had 12 catches again on 14 targets, but they lost the game.

[Andy Holloway]

So Higby. You said Higby versus Mark Andrews?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

In a half point PPR, they are 11.1 fantasy points to 11.2. The dominant victory goes to Mark Andrews.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, see, I told you. I'm a genius. I'm a genius.

[Andy Holloway]

Clearly the right.

[Jason Moore]

My goodness. Where's my honorary doctorate? Brooks, do you. Is it in the mail? No. Yeah, maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

Any Foot Clan listener out there is thinking, you know, I work at this university, and this is how people that work at universities talk to work at this university, and I can give you an honorary doctor.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I just want in on that.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You two don't twofer.

[Jason Moore]

Mike's not here. So you and I.

[Andy Holloway]

There's only two doctors here. Look, it was glorious for a long time. You and I, we had check marks for being verified on Twitter. Yeah, Mike did not. That was great.

[Jason Moore]

That was the best time of my life.

[Andy Holloway]

I want to.

[Jason Moore]

Those years.

[Andy Holloway]

I want a doctorate. You want a document?

[Jason Moore]

I do. Yes. I will accept.

[Andy Holloway]

And I would be fine if this listener wants to give Jay Grizz a doctorate as well.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think that that's. That's not a bad idea.

[Andy Holloway]

Not Mike.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, not Mike. All right, let's move on here. Let's. Let's get. Let's get depressed.

[Andy Holloway]

Stinkers of the week, presented by Odor Eaters.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's look at these quarterback stinkers. Oh, my gosh. There. There were some situations that. Listen, we. We've done this for years now, and I want to be clear about this. We said, you know, we had some good weeks with some of our leagues. There is literally nothing. And Brooks, Al Borland, you can attest to this. There is nothing that affects us more than the advice we give and whether it comes to fruition. And we are not soothsayers. We don't know. All we can do is lay out the situation and tell you what we would do. And sometimes we agree and sometimes we disagree. Right? I mean, sometimes you would play, I don't know, Justin Watson, Jason, like, for instance, and I might go like Perryman. You know what I mean? And we differ in our opinions. But the Aaron Rodgers situation, let's just say we're on the edge of our seat because we, we had made such a big deal about play. Play cut.

[Andy Holloway]

I have never. I came in Sunday morning, I said, the only thing I care about is, is that will never have looked stupider. If Aaron Rodgers has a big game into the first quarter, he throws a touchdown pass and I go, oh, my goodness. First quarter touchdown pass. What have we done?

[Jason Moore]

That was it.

[Andy Holloway]

That was it.

[Jason Moore]

That was it.

[Andy Holloway]

200 yards, one touchdown. That's it. That's a bust. Quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

20 on the week so far.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, there's still more quarterbacks to play.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, thank goodness. Thank you, Aaron, for not making us look stupid. We appreciate it. Unless, you know. Well, unless someone played you. Well, they don't appreciate it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but they didn't. I mean, that's fine. They went against us.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, so you don't mind it?

[Andy Holloway]

It's a lesson now? Now I do. I do want to remind people, when I was. When I was talking last week about the Minnesota championship, I was saying I reverted to. To. To play. Play bench. Because I want Rogers against Minnesota. Minnesota's secondary has not been good, but we'll see. That's. It's. It's on the road. And Aaron Rodgers been much better at home. You might have just better options out there than Rogers anyways.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Bad games from Jimmy G. I kind of thought he'd do well at home against Atlanta, and he did not. 201 just didn't work out. Sanders, Debo. Debo had some drops, which he's dealt with a little bit this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, Atlanta has been a good matchup for quarterbacks to play against. And Jimmy Garoppolo has been on fire the last several weeks. You've got the trio of Kittle and Sanders and Debo now locked in. Everything was ripe for him at home to have a big game. So he was a huge disappointment.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that was. Mike brought it up. Why people feel a certain way about Jimmy G. And it's because he doesn't really give you. Like. He just has some dud games.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Some very extreme dud game.

[Andy Holloway]

You know who else has some dud games? Philip Rivers. Philip Rivers has a lot of dud games. He loves taking the ball and saying, it's your team's ball now. Do you know how many turnovers that the Chargers had in that game? Are you aware?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Take a guess.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. Five, seven. That's a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Turned the ball over seven times. Everybody fumbled.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon, very nice. Seven for 28. Two fumbles lost.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You know who else stunk this week? He's not in here, but Matt Burrida. Real stunk. Two fumbles on four carries.

[Andy Holloway]

Now, that's bad.

[Jason Moore]

Bad. That's. Raheem Mostard is locked and loaded next week.

[Andy Holloway]

That's hard to do. To fumble twice when you only get four opportunities.

[Jason Moore]

Melvin tried. I mean, he had seven tries and he fumbled twice.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was bad. But nobody's starting Burrito. At least Melvin Gordon, that. That wrecked you.

[Jason Moore]

You just forgive and forget the situation for Melvin. He's got Oakland next week.

[Andy Holloway]

He got the honorary benching for a while. You saw a lot of Justin Jackson come in.

[Jason Moore]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

Then he did get back in later in the game. So I think they'll just, you know, they're moving on. They know Melvin Gordon is not a guy that just fumbles every time he touches the ball.

[Jason Moore]

All right. And then Derek Henry. Derek Henry was out a lot of this game dealing with a hamstring injury. You're going to need to monitor that this week. It's amazing that 21 for 86 with no catches was, you know, it's a dud. Yeah, it is. For what you needed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, it feels like he was okay. I mean, got a bunch of carries, 86 rush.

[Jason Moore]

Came back in the game, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, did come back in the game late. So, you know, the reality is. And this is. This is the problem with Derrick Henry, 86 rushing yards is really good in general. You go and look at the studs of the week, and a lot of them had around 80 rushing yards, and then they added 40 receiving yards or something like that. But he doesn't catch the ball much.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, I don't really care.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no. But my.

[Jason Moore]

He just didn't score.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. If you don't score when you're Derek Henry, then you're a dud game because you Just don't add enough in the passing game to be able to have the floor high enough.

[Jason Moore]

Dudrick Henry, is that what you said? Oh, that's what Mike. If he was here, Mike would have said that.

[Andy Holloway]

I would have. I would have. I would have accepted that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Leonard Fernet, 15 for 42.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Now he gets. He. Now he's. He's usually immune to this. 20 touches, seven targets, five reception. So if you aren't in a full PPR league, you were okay, but certainly disappointed, especially in a very winnable matchup at Oakland. This is now a couple games in a row that Leonard Fournette has just kind of stunk after he seemed so consistent.

[Jason Moore]

I thought Devin Singletary looked good.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he looked great.

[Jason Moore]

But for fantasy purposes, he was single digit guy. I mean, he had two catches for two yards. He fumbled. He had another fumble. They didn't lose.

[Andy Holloway]

He has Derrick Henry's line, like Derek Henry was 21 for 86. Devin Singletary, the exact opposite body type, was 21 carries for 87 yards. So he's one yard better than Derek Henry. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then I feel like at this point, Philip Lindsay's done in your lineup because there's been multiple matchups in a row where you thought Philip Lindsay was going to be something.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I get it. But I, I don't. I don't.

[Jason Moore]

Plays Detroit next week.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think he's done because of that.

[Jason Moore]

I think you're not willing to let him go. You're. You're probably not in the title game, so you don't have to think about it because Philip Lindsay let you down.

[Andy Holloway]

There are enough listeners.

[Jason Moore]

Jason was catching a piece of fuzz. For those of you listening at home. He paused to catch a piece of fuzz that was floating in the air like a wisp.

[Andy Holloway]

That's called.

[Jason Moore]

Did you make a wish?

[Andy Holloway]

Good audio. I wished to be as good as Joe Mixon at running the ball.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Philip Lindsay wished that as well. I mean, this is absolutely mondo turd. 7 for 32. Now he's in the snow. Do you forgive him?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I forgive him because Detroit will forgive him.

[Jason Moore]

Are you sure?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

You're positive?

[Andy Holloway]

I am positive. Yes. Philip Lindsay will be a fine play this week.

[Jason Moore]

Phil Lindsay was supposed to be a fine play against Minnesota, Buffalo, the Chargers in Houston.

[Andy Holloway]

And he was a fine play in one of those sort of.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, yes, Houston was supposed to be a smash play. I'm just disappointed as soon as it was kind of like, hey, people aren't paying attention to Philip Lindsay, he's like, this is why. And then David Gummery, 14 for 39. You saw this coming?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Every single Sunday live question with David Montgomery, I was trying to pivot from.

[Andy Holloway]

Those are the best. Like, the best are when there's an easy and obvious answer that a lot of people have. Like, a lot of people didn't know what to do with David Montgomery. And that one was like, oh, that's easy. Don't play him.

[Jason Moore]

Ronald Jones, Peyton Barber, both disappointing. Every time they got the ball, it seemed like it was a cursory. Like, I need to check the box of running so that I can throw with Jameis Moore. And they were Both pretty disappointing. LaShawn McCoy, Darwin Thompson to speak to the Lindsay matchup. Nobody ran the ball well in that game. Although Darwin did have more work than we've seen in the past, so it's kind of interesting. Well, he was much better with the work he had then Lashawn McCoy was.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you know Lashawn McCoy was late to the game?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, come on. I believe it, though. Because of the snow.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, because the snow. There were three players that were a little late.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe. I don't know if that factored in.

[Jason Moore]

But it's pretty tough in the snowman.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just. It is a fact that he was.

[Jason Moore]

Like, all right, tell me how this happened. Brooks. We've got wide receiver duds. You had, what, 44 points scored by Dallas? Was that their final total? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Mari Cooper had one catch. Michael Gallup had one catch. Five targets combined between the two.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's.

[Jason Moore]

That's. That shouldn't be able to happen.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the cool thing. Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, and Randall Cobb, they combined, the three of them, in a game where the Cowboys scored over four for 22 yards. 22 receiving yards between your first, second, and third receivers. And that's all thanks to Randall Cobb's negative three total yards. They just ran the football with gallups six.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, even Dak. Dak. You'd expect more than 202 from Dak.

[Andy Holloway]

So, you know, it's like, we played Amari Cooper, and we played him over devonte Parker.

[Jason Moore]

That was dumb.

[Andy Holloway]

That felt bad. We still got the W. It could have been a capital W, but it was just a lowercase W. W is W. But now that. And it felt bad, and now it's like, okay, I don't know if we can stick with Cooper, but looking at this Now, Cooper dominated 19 yards.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Amongst the other whiteouts, you.

[Andy Holloway]

Compare that to Gallup and Cobb who combined for three yards. Cooper was fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

Look, you can throw on Philadelphia. It's hard. It's going to be hard not to start these guys. Cooper and Gallup in Philadelphia, where Dallas won't necessarily be able to just. You have 45 rushing attempts this game and a dominating halftime lead 28 to 7.

[Andy Holloway]

Two running backs with 100 plus rushing yards. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But I. It does show you that if the game plan goes the way Dallas wants it to Dax not throwing for 300 or 400, he's throwing for 200. Edelman two for nine on five targets. This was a very late rankings pivot for me because more and more news, Edelman starting to equivocate on whether he was going to play in this game, thinks he can give it a go type of news. Cincinnati has been better on defense. Edelman banged up. I'm not saying that you benched him. I mean, you probably didn't. Almost nobody did. But he had one of the biggest duds of the year and he's been the one of the more consistent players in all of fantasy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So, I mean, he had averaged 16.4 fantasy points per game over the last nine. And this was a pure. It was basically like you didn't play wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I was going to say this is one where you have to pay attention to the Edelman news. He's going to miss practice this week, but late in the week, the Thursday, the Friday, how involved is he? Is he, you know, healing up better? Because if he's as injured as he was this game, it's going to be really hard to trust him in your championship.

[Jason Moore]

Speaking of trust, I mean, what do you do with Kenny Golladay in Denver next week with David Blau, who. I mean, it was not smooth for Golladay. It was whatever the opposite of smooth is. Seven targets, three for 44.

[Andy Holloway]

You cannot trust Golladay next week. He was my start of the week this week. Clearly a smash play where you knew they were going to have to throw the ball. And it was against Tampa Bay, who is not. Is not close to the worst. They are by. They are to the wide receiver position what the Arizona Cardinals are to the tight end position this year. And so the fact that he couldn't get it done. And what really sucked is at the end of that game, there were a couple of bomb throws to Galladay. The one in particular where it was had to be a 40 yard throw. It went right through his hands. So it Was a bad game. I apologize.

[Jason Moore]

It just.

[Andy Holloway]

And he should.

[Jason Moore]

The process made sense, but the result made you cry.

[Andy Holloway]

3 for 44 on seven targets. You know, it's not Julian Edelman bad, 2 for 9, but it's going to help you lose. And that's not good.

[Jason Moore]

No. And same with Emmanuel Sanders and Debo. Robert woods and Brandon Cooks were the two duds on that. The garbage time.

[Andy Holloway]

I disagree because Brandon Cooks, 4 for 46. Feel like that's a step in the right direction for him.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the eight targets, four catches. Yeah. Step in the right direction. Not for your fantasy lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Jarvis Landry was a huge. Both Landry, Beckham along with Baker. I guess Baker had the two touchdowns to Ricky Seals Jones. What was that?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. I was. You started starting to be a seal, but I realized I don't do that.

[Andy Holloway]

Instead it was.

[Jason Moore]

That's why you stopped. Yeah. That's why you stop. Well, that was. It's like a baby seal when he's getting born. It's real quiet.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think those might be.

[Jason Moore]

Have you ever heard my impression of like a. Like a ping pong ball?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Great.

[Jason Moore]

See, it's very similar to a clock. I'm really good with sound.

[Andy Holloway]

You're like.

[Jason Moore]

I'm like Justin Watson, Police Academy, who.

[Andy Holloway]

Can just do anything with his voice.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. That's right. Stefan Diggs, 4 for 76. Adam Thielen just 3 for 27 on three targets. The matchup was tough. Thielen coming back. Hopefully he didn't play him. I wasn't willing to play him, but you're gonna have to make a decision on him next week against Green Bay, though. Are you looking at Thielen as a flex option? Next way, Next week?

[Andy Holloway]

If he's practicing in full, I mean, he'll be in consideration for a flex option. Yeah, he will.

[Jason Moore]

And if DJ Chark is out, DD, Westbrook only 2 for 14. I was not going to touch Dede with the fact that he was dealing with the injury. He had left early last week. Conley was the only kind of. Maybe. But, you know, if Chark is out again, they face Atlanta. Are you. Are you done with DD for the year?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think you have to be done with DD for the year. Watch the practice reports. I mean, you know, two weeks removed from whatever was hurting him. Obviously he stunk this week and maybe you don't want to keep rolling with that. I'm fine with that. I think there are better options, but I don't think he's just dead in the water.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we have another stinker for Hunter Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been a while now, so here's what's crazy. In our league one where we are going to the championship, we had Darren Waller and Hunter Henry.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And after a couple of great Hunter Henry weeks, once he got back, we knew we needed to trade one of them and we turned Henry into Amari Cooper and him plus stuff. And it was a great trade but we regretted it for several weeks because Hunter Henry, we said we traded the wrong tight end. Clearly we should have traded Waller and kept Hunter Henry. Had we done that, we would be out because Darren Waller had another fantastic game and Hunter Henry had another another dud. So you just can't always tell.

[Jason Moore]

Waller eight for 122 on 10 targets. Hunter Henry ended up just two for 29. Oh, Austin Hooper, three for 20. Thought he saved the day with that touchdown at the end. Did you think that it was going to get overturned?

[Andy Holloway]

I honestly thought it would stay a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

I did too. That would have been more helpful for.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy owners because it was called a touchdown on the field and he did maintain possession. The ball did not move when the ball touched the ground. I thought it would be upheld as a touchdown, in which case he would have had a pretty darn good game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Still a dud though. It's disappointing. Thought more targets than six. So not, not a start of the week candidate. Unfortunately touchdown didn't go his way. O.J. howard, just 4 for 46 on eight targets. I still willing to look at him next week because the targets are going to have to come. There's nobody left in Tampa Bay. Mike Gasicki, nothing special. Noah Fant was dealing with injury heading into this game. Missed the whole second quarter, just 2 for 56. So stinkers of the Week presented by Odor Eaters. Odor Eaters, the best in foot Odor defense will be with you all week getting you ready for those hashtag Foot Clan titles. It's been very fun hearing from you on social media. Those of you, those of you that have had big years, some of which maybe you've struggled in those leagues for a while and you had a big year this year and you're ready to go for next week. I want to say good luck to everybody who is featuring a Saint or Colts player tonight trying to get over the hump getting to that championship game. But I think that's it, Jay. I think we're done.

[Andy Holloway]

It's going to be a really great week. We're going to bring a lot of hashtag footclan titles out there. Get that.

[Jason Moore]

And yeah, and you got games, what, Saturday games this week? It's going to be pretty fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Saturday games this week. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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