
Week 16 Matchups + Mike's Back, Wheel of Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/20
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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
Studio is brought to you by Amazon prime foreignasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Andy Holloway
Welcome in. Bye bye bear. Hello Hitman.
Mike Wright
Hey everybody.
Andy Holloway
The fever dream has come to bro. Has come to an end. Well we had been very.
Mike Wright
What was that all about?
Andy Holloway
We. We. Did you listen to any of the podcasts? I assume not.
Mike Wright
I did nothing.
Jason Moore
This was trying to exist.
Mike Wright
Yeah, like this. You know how sometimes you're like sick day. I get to. I'm gonna watch show.
Andy Holloway
You gonna watch Netflix none of that bull crap.
Mike Wright
It was just live and try to fast forward and time warp till this is over.
Andy Holloway
We had been.
Mike Wright
I am 75% Theraflu right now.
Andy Holloway
Are you okay? Yeah. We had spent some time on the show saying how. Talking about how little we had heard from you, which told us everything we needed to know. Where it was like, there was.
Jason Moore
There was no update.
Andy Holloway
There was no real communication. It was like.
Jason Moore
And then I see the tweet from, like, yesterday where it was the Jumanji. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
He never tweeted during the whole time either.
Jason Moore
That tweet, which was. What year is it?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
That was the first time I had woken up all week where I'm like, wait, wait, I'm in reality.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's.
Mike Wright
I'm no longer half here, half in the phantom zone.
Andy Holloway
Well, we're happy to have you back, Jay Grizz, once again, disappointed in your absence. He didn't do much.
Mike Wright
He does. I mean, he looks good.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Yeah.
Mike Wright
He hasn't aged a day.
Andy Holloway
Makes Jason look small.
Jason Moore
That's true.
Andy Holloway
But you're back in time for the Wheel of Shame today. Congratulations.
Mike Wright
Yeah, perfect, you guys. I would not put it past you to pick on a sick guy.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, well, you know, we'll see what happens. YouTube.comd fantasy footballers. I did want to take a second. We're coming to the end of the season. We got semifinal week. We're previewing games today. We've got our the Fantasy Face off at the end of the show. Next week is championship week. Although it's funny, I talked to somebody yesterday whose championship week is this week.
Jason Moore
Really?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
I was like, they never moved it when the NFL added a game or something.
Andy Holloway
And so that meant that their first week of the playoffs was the week when, like, the Ravens and everyone was on, My goodness. I was like, what are you doing?
Jason Moore
It's your lead.
Andy Holloway
I was like, what are you doing?
Mike Wright
But if only. If only they knew what the schedule was.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Yeah. You know, sometimes. Sometimes people just leave it alone, I guess. So that's always one of our reminders, is get that fixed in the off season. But if you have some feedback for us, this show is for you. This show is to help your team get better, to entertain you, to help you prepare each and every week. We're here all throughout the off season as well. But if you have feedback for us, we'd love to hear from you, things that you love about the show. Anything that you don't love, you can send that into Questions ask@fantasy footballers.com. we'll get those, we'll read them, we'll check them out. We always want to make the show better each and every year. And thought I'd get that out there. Before we Talked about the 3427 Thursday Night Football game.
Mike Wright
What a game.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it was pretty exciting this game.
Andy Holloway
The Broncos started hot. They looked unstoppable, just machine like to.
Mike Wright
Begin the game, much to my chagrin because I did message you guys how annoyed. And look, this is the me problem. This is a 100. Maybe other people had the problem too. But them rotating their running back literally every snap felt not it to me. It didn't feel fully strategic. It felt like Sean Payton's like, yeah, I can do it.
Andy Holloway
I can.
Mike Wright
I can do this because I'm Sean Payton. And just. And it works for a bit there and then. Then they never running back, never caught momentum.
Jason Moore
Yeah, the running backs got tired from all the running on and off the field.
Mike Wright
It's funny, it's like they were sprinting off.
Andy Holloway
That is a distance to cover. You're doing wind sprints.
Jason Moore
It's literally more than they run when they get the ball on the vast majority of occasions. So you talk about fresh legs, like, man, fourth quarter, all of my guys are winded.
Mike Wright
Why are you so tired, Coach? You got me running 50 yard wind sprints every other snap.
Andy Holloway
This was a game where I think, you know, just the greatness of Justin Herbert was on display.
Mike Wright
Oh, my gosh. Time and time again, he was so good.
Andy Holloway
I think it was the Darius Davis touchdown. That was. It didn't make sense the way his arm angle was.
Jason Moore
He was like running to the left and had no ability to put his shoulder into it. And it just laser beams of ball.
Andy Holloway
It was awesome. And McConkey had a good game.
Mike Wright
Dude, that Gus run, the Gus bus, that was a vintage Gus Edwards run.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. He was 14 for 68 and 2. Superstar Marvin Mims Jason led the way for Denver's passing game. 3 for 62. Just further separating from that chump Troy Franklin.
Jason Moore
He had two catches of his own.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, you know what? I'm gaining. I'm gaining on you. But Cortland Sutton, five for 50. Everything was pedestrian in this one. If you started Sutton, which I think tons of people did, we had three or four in our office that did that. This was not. This was not the worst thing that could have ever happened, I believe in our league. He showed up about a point and a half under where they had him projected.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Mike and I are playing against Cortland Sutton in the in the Dino Junior League together. And I am disappointed that he got seven and a half points. Yeah, I like.
Andy Holloway
Because he didn't feel that way.
Jason Moore
No, it felt like he should be. He should have ended the game around five and seven and a half too much.
Andy Holloway
So all that being said, we don't have a Thursday night goose of Cortland Sutton to add to the cup. And the read like he. It wasn't a league winning performance. It's probably not going to define your week either direction. But that was kind of the summary of the game.
Jason Moore
The real only disappointing player who was an outright bust if you chose to play him and we talked about on the waivers that we would play McMillan over him is Quentin Johnston. Quentin Johnson did absolutely nothing, even though Herbert was awesome.
Mike Wright
And no, he cut again.
Jason Moore
Yeah, well, huge going to huge. Especially on prime time. Those lights are. Maybe the lights are too bright. He can't see when it's prime time. But yeah, hopefully you didn't start him.
Andy Holloway
So, yeah, there you go. It's Friday.
Jason Moore
Foot Clan Friday.
Andy Holloway
All right. Every Friday, we give $100 away to fantasychamps.com we give a fantasy footballers T shirt away to a supporter. And this week, username Groot. The I am just Groot. Groot. Congratulations.
Mike Wright
I am Groot.
Jason Moore
Okay, so it's not the original.
Andy Holloway
No. Mike is making the point that his.
Mike Wright
His name is simply Groot.
Andy Holloway
His name is Groot. He just says I am Groot.
Jason Moore
Right, but that's all he says.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, but what?
Jason Moore
He doesn't just say Groot.
Andy Holloway
If real Groot had an account on our site, he would not write it as I am Groot.
Jason Moore
I don't know how he could write just Groot. He doesn't know how. He can only write and say I am Groot.
Mike Wright
No, that is all we hear. No, he is speaking his language.
Jason Moore
Oh, that's true.
Mike Wright
It's like Pokemon.
Jason Moore
I forgot about that. I apologize.
Andy Holloway
I fight Mike on these issues.
Jason Moore
I apologize. You're a nerd. I wasn't nerd enough.
Andy Holloway
Congratulations. Thanks for supporting the show over there. At jointhefoot.com, let's talk news.
Jason Moore
News and notes from around the league, presented by USAA Insurance.
Andy Holloway
All righty. We have Saturday games this week. You get that trickle of fantasy points coming in throughout the weekend. Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Patrick Mahomes off the injury report will play because, of course, this was good news. Really good news. And I've seen all the practice videos as well. Joe Mixon off the injury report and will play in the game. Still a tough Matchup still really, really want him in your lineup. If you have Joe Mixon and you've been leaning on him to get to the semifinals.
Jason Moore
Yeah. All the video, the practicing in full, it really does seem like the injury is not an issue here. The matchup is still an issue, but it's given me a lot of confidence to kind of bump him up a little bit more.
Andy Holloway
All right, we have George Pickens ruled out. Once again, George. And Rashad Bateman is questionable. Was seen in a walking boot, probably a customized walking boot that's already been pre made for him with the engraving. And it's like his walking boot that he can use every week if he wants to.
Mike Wright
Has he considered getting a running boot?
Andy Holloway
Oh, and just leave it on?
Mike Wright
Yeah. Like why is it always a walking boot?
Andy Holloway
Man, if he went out there and started running routes in one of those boots. Yeah, dude with cleat. A boot with cleats.
Mike Wright
I mean he would, that would be.
Jason Moore
A weapon and he'd be safe.
Mike Wright
Like he would always be just too tilting one direction.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he's got to start in the slot. Otherwise he's going out of bounds.
Mike Wright
He's a little. Yeah, he's uneven.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. RB one leg.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Tyrone Tracy limited on Thursday with an ankle injury. He's still a, you know, anytime you got an offense looking as inept as the Giants, he's still going to be a little bit of a nervous start on a week to week basis. Cedric Tillman's still limited. You're not, you're not playing him without Winston and so we move on.
Jason Moore
And there are also like sometimes you are trying to push someone through a concussion protocol even more and they are. This is a team. I don't think they're in need to force him back for dtr.
Andy Holloway
David Najoku did not practice dealing with the hamstring Sames. Braylon Allen, Isaiah Davis, both limited. You know, Jason made Breeze all his start of the week.
Mike Wright
What?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
This is, you know it's going to happen.
Andy Holloway
You get fresh reactions.
Jason Moore
You know it's going to happen.
Mike Wright
You made Breeze hall your start.
Andy Holloway
I told him I'm not, I'm not there with him.
Mike Wright
This is just, this is, this is only a man crying out in pain.
Jason Moore
Breeze hall has a good matchup. His two counterparts are currently not practicing in full are injured and he is going to have a good week now that he can't help people.
Mike Wright
Like I said, this is just a man.
Andy Holloway
There's a little bit of. There's Zachary returned to a limited practice. Could be back out there with the concussion.
Jason Moore
This is what I was talking about. Like, remember we would talk about player incentives and maybe Zach Ertz will come back a little quicker through his protocol because he's got some checks to cash.
Mike Wright
I got some quiche coming.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So that's motivation somehow. Can affect concussions, it seems.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And we. We are still. Kate Otten still didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday with a knee injury. Monitoring that. Tony Pollard did not practice. Dnp, DMP limited last week so he could still play. Geno Smith practiced in full. And here's a big one. Kenneth Walker, the bone zone. Practice in full.
Mike Wright
Are we back?
Andy Holloway
Well, see the bone. We might be back to Kenneth Walker playing, but I know he's. But the bone zone, it's a.
Jason Moore
It's Minnesota, so that is as bad as it gets.
Andy Holloway
And then Charbonnet, he was limited with the oblique, but honestly, the.
Mike Wright
Andy and I are squaring off. And the semis and the dynasty are. Dino. Senior underdog. Andy is the underdog. And my final decision comes down to a spot like where it's. I have Jerome Ford, right. And it was. Oh, you know, I don't like that DTR is the quarterback, but, hey, he should be getting all. All the work. He's got juice.
Jason Moore
It's the Bengals.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And it's the Bengals. I love my running backs against the Bengals. I just want pieces of that. And I didn't want. I'm sorry. I didn't want Ken Walker to make the decision hard for me because I think he is. Even starting him is so difficult. A healthy Ken Walker against Minnesota is like, oh, are we going to get one of those real crappy where he's like two yards per carry, maybe he catches three passes and it's just nothing. It's a.
Jason Moore
Do you remember when staring it down.
Mike Wright
Is really, really hard to.
Jason Moore
Do you remember when Kenneth Walker played against the Detroit Lions and that tough run D before they lost their defense and he was the running back, too, with three touchdowns. Yeah.
Mike Wright
No, he can. But what was his. What was his line aside from the touchdowns?
Jason Moore
He was 12 for 86.7 yards. I didn't recall four receptions for 36.
Mike Wright
And he could. That's where it's hard because Ken Walker can do that. Ken Walker can also be 40 yards on 15 attempts and nothing else.
Andy Holloway
There are several situations this week. Jerome Ford, Kendra Miller.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Oh, man.
Andy Holloway
Where you have. Yeah. Where you have like a. An opportunity that just screams start me. Because of the amount of work that they have the potential to receive. But Offenses that say kill me because they are, they're going to be so inept. Like, you know, are you going to be happy with Kendra Miller if he catches one pass and runs between the 20s a few times and they punt like, this is what submarine. Dalvin Cook. We shared stories on the footcast of your worst championship bad beats. And I was like, I had Dalvin Cook when he was a top five running back and he played in the fantasy championship and I needed nine points to win a title. And guess what? It wasn't Kirk Cousins. He was out with COVID I don't remember the name of that chump that played quarterback that week, but they were so inept that it was three and out three and out three. Now you don't get to run the football if your first down is a sack. Okay? And now it's second and 15 and you got an incompletion and it's third down, you're off the field. Like that does happen. And those decisions are hard. I know Kendra Miller will get more into it on this show. He is like the number one name littering the start sit tool on the website because, you know, people don't know what to expect. And whether you go with a lower probability bad matchup, Kenneth Walker or everything for Kendra Miller on Monday night where you've not seen enough of him, it's.
Mike Wright
A really tough choice.
Andy Holloway
Jaylen Waddle did not practice. We can probably stop updating about Jalen Waddle. He's. He's not going to be in your lineup. Isaac Garanda. We got news. Unlikely to play.
Mike Wright
Unbelievable.
Andy Holloway
This is, they're, they're going to go to fifth string at the running back position, which will probably be. If you had, you know, some Keyshawn Vaughn, Patrick Taylor combination that is not attractive. Like I'm not actively fighting for one of those guys right now. I don't know if you guys have a different opinion.
Jason Moore
I think Patrick Taylor is probably a good play this week, I expect. I mean they always use one guy. You know, the idea that they're going to platoon it and use a committee, maybe at some point, now that they're onto the 16th string running back, maybe they do it just. It's never been done. Like Kyle Shanahan has had enough injuries and they just grab whoever's next and say, well, you're on the field for every snap. It's just kind of how we play ball. So I think it's going to be Patrick Taylor. He, he is someone that I would be willing to start. I picked him up in a league that I'm in the playoffs for. At the very least to just block if. If I don't start him.
Andy Holloway
All right. Alvin Camara not expected to play on Monday. Season might be over for Alvin Camara. So you're. You're probably not getting him back next week if you make it through. It is certainly disappointing. He's been a key cog in championship runs.
Jason Moore
Just devastating. I mean, he's one of those players that's just in almost every single playoff right now.
Andy Holloway
Mike, we are facing each other this week. I was already an underdog and now you will not be getting Alvin Camara against him.
Mike Wright
I'm sorry for your loss.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. But guess what I got instead.
Mike Wright
What do we got?
Andy Holloway
Ramond Ray Stevenson.
Mike Wright
Oh, this. That will be the ultimate come up for me.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Which one of you guys I believe you or Al are playing against in the league of record? The Alvin Camaro.
Andy Holloway
That would be. Yeah, that would be Al. Al is. I think he got a concession speech from the other manager already due to Alvin Camaro.
Mike Wright
But then howl tried to be like Sutton.
Andy Holloway
Is that Al's voice?
Jason Moore
Yeah, it is.
Mike Wright
When. When, when one player is like, I don't have my superstar running back. Yeah. But Cortland son got eight points.
Andy Holloway
Mike is back, baby.
Jason Moore
I love it.
Andy Holloway
We did get news this morning as well. Just one last bit here. We talked about James Conner got the great matchup. Trey Benson's already out for Sunday's game and Amari D. Markado is on IR. So they are now down to two running backs on the roster, Connor and D.J. dallas.
Mike Wright
We may have a return here.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, you could get Tony. Tony Brooks. James.
Jason Moore
Oh, my gosh.
Andy Holloway
Michael Carter.
Jason Moore
Tony. Tony James Jones. Brooks Jr. Coming back. That's a name I never thought I would hear again or remember. Yeah. Also though, Paris Johnson, the left tackle, is also not going to play this week. So, you know, some good from a depth chart standpoint for Conner and some bad from an offensive lean line standpoint.
Andy Holloway
That was today's news and notes presented as always by USAA Insurance. Learn more at USAA.com insurance Let's take a quick break and we'll jump back into the forecast. This episode is brought to you by Abbott. Let's talk about a small thing that can make a big difference if you have diabetes. The Freestyle Libre 3 Plus sensor. It's amazing how the sensor gives you real time glucose readings so that you can see the impact of every meal and activity. To make better choices, the Freestyle Libre 3 sensor can help you live life with diabetes on your terms. This is progress. You can try it for free at FreestyleLibre US. Offer available for people who qualify. Visit MyFreestyle US to see all terms and conditions. Certain exclusions apply for prescription only Safety info found at Freestyle Libre Us. This episode is brought to you by Duluth Trading Company. Just like you won't settle for average with your draft selections, those picks the same should go for your workwear. Duluth Trading. You can outthink, outsmart and outdo average with every piece of men's and women's gear that they build. It's why they fabricate fire hose pants to be epically tough, pack their bibs full of pockets and make sure buck naked underwear feels barely there. It's all about innovating ingenious gear that you won't find anywhere else. Shop online or in store today. Visit duluthtrading.com it's time for Fantasy Forecast.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
All right, yesterday we covered the Texans, Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens. Those are our Saturday games. Don't forget to set those lineups early. Giants, Falcons, Lions, Bears, Browns, Bengals, Rams, Jets, Eagles, Commanders and we're moving forward Tennessee three and eleven. Indianapolis six and eight games in Indy where they are three and a half point favorites over under 42 and a half. On the DK sportsbook, it's going to be Mason Rudolph on the Titan side, going to be Anthony Richardson once again at home. Tony Pollard we think could be active. We talked about his contract incentives. He's got a little ways to go to get to 1100 yards, seven touchdowns. Tajie Spears was your hungry for more Jason and then yesterday Mike, this will be breaking news to you, but I am I'm shooting my shot on Chiga Conquo this week. What that's going to be my that's going to be my tight end start. So that is over otten league of record over Britain. Strange.
Mike Wright
Wow.
Andy Holloway
So this was the breaking news yesterday. One more piece of data. I brought up the fact like the Colts are who you want to play if you're in a tough if you're a tight end. We talked about the targets per route run being in the same place that Ridley's at over the last three weeks. Here are the tight ends targeted the most on a per route basis. Number one was Najoku 31% of the time. Number two in the NFL ahead of McBride, Britton, Strange, Hunter, Henry. Anybody else is chicaconkwo. He's number two in the league, 29% of routes run. And so I Am taking my shot on an athletic tight end as opposed to the plotting. You know, we got news that Britain Strange has an AC joint injury. Kate Otten is now missing two practices. We've got a concussion that maybe Zachary gets back from. Like, if you're bottom of the barrel, is all I'm saying. It's going to be Chick for me. He's in my lineup. That's the way I'm riding.
Mike Wright
All right.
Jason Moore
I get it.
Andy Holloway
Enough to the point where Jason has apparently put. Did you some sort of touchdown bet down on Chig?
Jason Moore
Yeah, for sure. I mean, I'm going to play. And I'm also in one of the leagues where I was in that situation of like, am I playing a Briton Strange? And I decided I'm riding. I'm riding with you, man. I picked up jig. You're. I mean, he is a player. Oh, yeah.
Mike Wright
He had a drop.
Andy Holloway
Oh, Conquo 10 targets last week, by the way.
Mike Wright
I. Yeah, I see that.
Jason Moore
Yeah. The thing is, is athletically, he is a really good player. There was a time where we were very excited for him. I do think that the opportunity is there for him. And Mason Rudolph, not a huge upgrade from Will Levis. Not a downgrade from Will Levis. So, you know, you could hopefully see him duck foot run another big, long touchdown.
Andy Holloway
Is that how Chig runs?
Jason Moore
Dude, It's. Yes. On that big, long duck foot. Yeah.
Mike Wright
So, like, his feet are out.
Jason Moore
Yes. His feet point away. Or is he for center? What's that? Does he quack?
Mike Wright
Or is it feed? Or is he.
Jason Moore
It's a feet. No, it's a feet. It's like, I don't know how he runs so fast when his toes are pointing. Like guys looking in two different directions, you know?
Andy Holloway
Oh, my gosh. Jonathan Taylor. Jason, after he hurt you, I'm surprised he's not your start of the week.
Jason Moore
I did think about it. I mean, he's a good start this week. Obviously. Last week, the boneheaded play that. What did you say?
Andy Holloway
7.9% of people in Yahoo leagues lost because of that play.
Jason Moore
Holy crap. Yeah, because he just dropped the touchdown. Went from a touchdown to a fumble. But how cool did he look like.
Mike Wright
If that had been a touchdown and the way that he was, like, timing the drop. How cool is that?
Andy Holloway
Is that where the, like, NFL street cred is? Is, like, how quick can you drop the football after breaking the plane? So everyone's trying to get it close.
Jason Moore
They had to review that thing 10 minutes, and it called me a touchdown. Jonathan Taylor's a good player. He was awesome last week.
Mike Wright
Obviously, he doesn't do that again.
Jason Moore
I'm sure he will never do that again the rest of his career. But the matchup is pretty good against the Titans. They're at home. They are favored. I think Jonathan Taylor's a very good start.
Andy Holloway
For whatever reason, he hasn't had huge games against Tennessee in the past, but the matchup looks good on paper. Is there a wide receiver on the Indianapolis side that you would feel a level of confidence in this week?
Jason Moore
No. I mean, you could.
Andy Holloway
I know Alec Pierce is banged up. Maybe there's a little bit of consolidation of the 45% completion rate.
Jason Moore
I mean, I would put Josh Downs in first, and I would hope that I'm not putting Josh Downs in. I hope I have a better option. You know, last week you had nine targets to Michael Pittman, eight targets to Josh Downs. With the completion rate, it feels like you need about 20 or 30 targets to have a good game. But, I mean, Josh Downs has had a handful of good games already with Anthony Richardson, so if you got to play one of them, that's who I would play.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I want to hit the almost upset button, but it feels like this game is so.
Jason Moore
Did you see the Brian Callahan. Anyways, did you see the Brian Callahan press conference where one of the reporters asked about his team being soft?
Mike Wright
No.
Jason Moore
Oh, man. If you had saw that, I think you would have hit the button because he got it.
Andy Holloway
It's fine.
Jason Moore
Andy's almost upset of the week. He got fiery. I mean, he. He. He told that reporter, like, whoever's saying that has absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
Andy Holloway
38 expletives.
Jason Moore
Oh, it was. It was. It was really like. It was Dan Campbell. It was so 38. It was so that is the stats.
Andy Holloway
That Kyle's already had, genuine and real.
Mike Wright
That up. Kyle. Okay.
Jason Moore
Well, it was. There were. I mean, if he's. If he's not 38.
Andy Holloway
Oh, he made it up all right.
Jason Moore
It's not too far off. But I mean, it was a great. Like, if I was a player and I watched my coach, the way that he got my back, and I think it would amp this team up. It would have.
Mike Wright
What if you're actually soft?
Jason Moore
I don't think they are, man. They don't have a good record. They've lost a lot of games. But honestly, it's quarterback. I mean, not. Not every. Not all of their woes is quarterback play. But in the beginning of the year, it's a big year. I Mean, it's hard to win games when you're constantly throwing the other team touchdowns. It's like that doesn't mean your team is playing soft. Remember in the beginning of the year we didn't want to face the Titans defense.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Because they just, they go out and they hit hard and they play strong but they, you know, maybe, maybe they're a little bit phoning in and now it's hard to play hard at 3 and 11.
Andy Holloway
It's also hard to play defense on a short field because Levis gives you a short field. The Cardinals are seven and seven taken on the three and eleven Carolina Panthers. The DraftKings sportsbook line. Arizona minus four and a half. The over. Under is 47. There you go, Carolina. We got a little bit of a retread. That's not the word. A retracement.
Jason Moore
That's not a word for bright.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it is.
Jason Moore
Retracement.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
For real. That's new.
Mike Wright
I mean, you retrace.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I mean I've got Mr. Stocks over there looking at me. Bryce Young just, he went backwards a little bit last week. That was the.
Mike Wright
Oh, this was a.
Jason Moore
A retracement is a technical term used to identify a minor pullback or change in the direction of a financial institution such as a stock or index. All right, Andy, my man. Look at that. That's impressive.
Andy Holloway
I'm just saying. Shares of Bryce Young. The price went down a little bit last week. Turnovers. Arizona on the road, four and a half point favorites. Still a competitive NFC West. Cardinals right there. One game behind Carolina's rush defense. It's awful. They're giving up 173 rushing yards a game. That would be the most all time. James Conner is going to be pretty good.
Mike Wright
How is James Conner not the RB one this week?
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean he, that's.
Andy Holloway
Jason made him his start of the week on that basis. Basically it was him and Breece.
Jason Moore
I had Breece as kind of a second because who's not starting? James Conner. But James Conner is like the start of the week. He should be in this matchup. You're favored, you're playing a perfect matchup. Your backups are injured, so you're going to get all the work. And he's just been on fire also the last like three years in a row. You know, when he's on the field down the stretch late in the season when defenses are tired of the way he plays concrete, he's, you know, it's tough to take him down.
Andy Holloway
So talk to me about the other parts of the offense. Because I think people have been laboring with the Kyler Murray decision this week. We've seen him in there. It's Kyler A Love. It's Kyler Darnold. It's Kyler or Goff.
Jason Moore
There are situations where I would start Kyler Murray and it's not the names that you just said. Obviously, Kyler can have big, explosive games. The Carolina matchup is a good one. To be in the over under is fine, but I'm, you know, if I'm looking at starting Kyler or, you know, Caleb Williams. Okay. It's really difficult for me to say I'm going to trust him over guys that I think are playing good football on a regular basis, like Jordan Love, like Sam Darnold, like Baker Mayfield. I don't think I'm going to take someone who is as volatile this season as Kyler over them. But it's not to say he's unstartable in a good matchup.
Andy Holloway
It's just like they win games where he doesn't have good fantasy.
Mike Wright
That's the issue of last week. I liked where the. I liked the spot the Cardinals were in. I thought Kyler was a decent play. The Cardinals put up 30 points and Kyler did nothing Concrete. Yeah.
Jason Moore
James Conner had the rushing touchdowns. And this matchup, it can happen again.
Mike Wright
That joke needs to stay offline. We cannot proliferate.
Andy Holloway
That's a Mark Sanchez and give any.
Mike Wright
Credence to that nickname because we only.
Andy Holloway
Use it because it's so Connor. So it's Concrete Mike.
Mike Wright
Oh, man.
Andy Holloway
Mark Sanchez. What's up?
Jason Moore
We still. I mean, when we're watching the games, we yell concrete.
Andy Holloway
We were watching. It was the jets game. Was it? I don't remember which one it was. The Cardinals are playing and it's just all of a sudden, the announcer just keeps yelling, concrete.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
No one's ever heard about that out here in Arizona.
Mike Wright
That's what everybody calls him.
Jason Moore
This is not a nickname. You can't make it happen.
Andy Holloway
It's also the name Concrete. There are better nicknames. All right. On the other side, Chuba Hubbard's Russian receiving line is 90 and a half. He's going right.
Mike Wright
So a very good play.
Andy Holloway
Going right back to Chuba Hubbard after a disappointing week. And then Adam Thielen. I think Adam Thielen is a great start. Leggette, Moore, Coker, all banged up.
Mike Wright
Be careful.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. No, don't be careful. I'm going to play him and I'm going to play him over Jacoby Myers. Jason, I made that decision.
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah, you are. Yeah. We can all make bad decisions. So Adam Thielen, to me is like the barometer test of like he. This week. He's the name of waiver wire type of guy that will I start, you know, Jerry Judy, who's now got dtr, but he's been on fire or Adam Thiel. And I would take Judy in that situation.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I'd probably stay with Judy.
Jason Moore
I would take Myers. But, you know, Josh Downs, we were just talking about. Can you start Josh Downs with, you know, against. With Anthony Richardson against the Titans. Yeah. But I would rather have kind of the known volume that is expected with Adam Thielen. So that's kind of my barometer test this week.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And Thielen's in that group over the last five weeks where, you know, it's 12.3 points a game. It's about where Shakir is. It's a little bit. It's 0.2 ahead of Myers. It's where Tyreek's been. It's where McConkey's been.
Mike Wright
So it comes down to like Bryce Young was they. Did we get fooled? Fool's the wrong word. Did we get. Did he just get this? You know, he played really, really well after coming off the bench. And now the old. Made like some of the habits or things that they have. I don't know if that came through the mic, but Jason. Jason's over. If you're not on the video, Jason has two mugs.
Andy Holloway
He's got two mugs. And I'm like, what is clinking them together frequently.
Jason Moore
Not on purpose. I keep hitting the handle because you.
Mike Wright
Have two mugs in a very small space.
Andy Holloway
What do you think is going to happen?
Mike Wright
At least separate them.
Jason Moore
There was a water and then I decided right before the show, I want a coffee.
Mike Wright
There you go. Right hand, left hand.
Jason Moore
There we go.
Andy Holloway
There's no way he's not spilling that mug on the other side.
Jason Moore
Not used to right handing this.
Mike Wright
But like it is. Is Bryce Young just. Is he going to revert right back?
Andy Holloway
I think There's a. There's 10 targets in the cards for Thielen. Whatever. You're happy if you're happy with 10 targets. He catches 75% of his passes. He's going to be fine.
Mike Wright
Having said I would Play.
Andy Holloway
But Trey McBride, he spat in the face of my touchdown guarantee after they tried to get him that little every.
Mike Wright
Everybody in the entire world is now doing the. Every single week.
Jason Moore
This is it.
Mike Wright
I'm calling the Trey McBride touchdown. It's not happening ever.
Jason Moore
It's happening. It's happening this week.
Mike Wright
It is not.
Jason Moore
It is 100%.
Mike Wright
It is never happening.
Andy Holloway
They will try a little at the end of games to get that done.
Jason Moore
The big question, I think on most people's minds who are in the playoffs is Marvin Harrison Jr. That's the guy that they don't know what to do with. You know, if you've got a Zay Flowers type that is, you know, do you start Zay Flowers or, you know, you can honestly have the conversation of like, is Adam feeling a safer. Better start than he is?
Andy Holloway
A safer start? Yeah.
Mike Wright
Safer floor.
Andy Holloway
He's only had one target, I think inside the in the last month. So Harrison is very. I mean, He's a wide receiver, 28. You need to treat him appropriately. You need to treat him that way, not the way you drafted him. And then you'll be fine.
Mike Wright
Marv has been seven or fewer points in three of the last four.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah. I think people are.
Mike Wright
How is this possible?
Andy Holloway
Cardinals could win the division still Minnesota's 12 and two taking on the eight and six Seattle Seahawks DraftKings sportsbook line Minnesota minus three over under is 42 and a half. An amazing job by Kevin O'Connell with these Vikings. They have been outstanding. The defense so formidable make you basically, you know, you have to pass. You don't really get the choice to run on them. That's where the dilemma of Ken Walker becomes more complicated. There will be a re injury risk. It might not be high, but he's been hurt multiple times this year and you're coming back from injury in a terrible matchup. You know, he missed. He missed two weeks early in the season. He missed two weeks late in the season and we were already a little bit. Mike, you've been frustrated with the bone zone becoming the charbone zone anyways, so it does feel a little nerve wracking. We talked about it a lot earlier. My start of the week at wide receiver was jsn, who is the guy right now and has a safe PPR floor and upside.
Jason Moore
I think not only based on his talent, but the matchup is fantastic. The Vikings put up so many points and you can't run on them. So it's just like that. The end of games is so valuable for opposing teams. Against the Vikings, when you talk about.
Mike Wright
The passing game, what do you do with Metcalf?
Jason Moore
That's so Metcalf and Marv, those guys are in the same like tier to me of like, these are good players that you can get a good game from this week who have not been performing. And you've just got to decide, you know, it's obviously going to come down to your options, but neither one is a must start.
Andy Holloway
I would be playing Harrison over Metcalf if I had that choice because Metcalf has had what, two months of disaster.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's been his. His previous explosive week would have been week seven against the Atlanta Falcons. Four for 99 with the score misses two games, his first game back after the bye week, seven for 70. Okay, that's fine. And then it's just been subpar every game after that.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he actually was off to a really strong start on the course of the season. Got injured and hasn't been the same. So I don't know if that correlation or causation, but it's mixed with Jason's emergence too. Yeah, I mean, it's been long enough that you need to be scared, but the matchup is so good here.
Andy Holloway
You guys, would you roll? Juan Jennings over Metcalf.
Mike Wright
Jen Nang Jennings for sure.
Andy Holloway
Jalen McMillan over DK Metcalf.
Jason Moore
No, that one's.
Andy Holloway
I think it's close. I really do. I think that's name over name over opportunity. I think that one's. That one's close. I probably wouldn't have the guts to not see if I can get a Metcalf game. Aaron Jones on the other side is rushing. Line is at 66 and a half. He's RB15 on the year. Jefferson and Addison, are we feeling good this week for both guys?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I mean, where are you with Hawkinson?
Jason Moore
You're never going to not feel good about Justin Jefferson and Jordan. Addison's averaging 16 fantasy points per game over the last seven games. So I think you've got to think you've got to have him in there. Hawkinson is always going to be in because you know there's six or seven tight ends you can rely on and if he's one that you have, he's in. So it's pretty easy, I think on that side of the ball. The question, the only question is Darnold, you know, like Darnold.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Where's he slot in this week?
Andy Holloway
He's the quarterback. Six over the last seven weeks. We have him as our consensus quarterback. Six this week.
Mike Wright
Darnold on the road against Seattle or Jared Goff on the road against Chicago?
Jason Moore
I'm going to go with Darnold. I think that golf outside potential bad weather.
Mike Wright
Brock Purdy against Miami on the road.
Andy Holloway
I'll take Darnold.
Jason Moore
I will too.
Mike Wright
Eileen Darnold as well.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, we got them ranked pretty high. The Patriots are 3 and 11. Powerhouse Ramondre Stevenson led Patriots going into. Oh, buffalo. Cool. Buffalo 11 and three at home. They have an implied point total of 30. They are 14 point home favorites with an over under of 46. That gives the Patriots 16 points. Away we go. Start Josh Allen, start James Cook.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And then it gets complicated with the receiving room.
Jason Moore
It gets very, very complicated.
Andy Holloway
11 degrees, by the way.
Jason Moore
Yeah. It's going to be cold, windy.
Mike Wright
My dome.
Jason Moore
That being said, I do think that you can take shots on any of them. I mean, Amari Cooper, Khalil Shakir, Keon Coleman, they will not all get it done. There's no chance that all three are going to have a good game, but Josh Allen's probably going to throw two touchdowns in this matchup. If you look at the history of, you know, when the bills have been 14 plus point favorites, which has happened 10 times with Josh Allen, they're nine and one and opponents are averaging 11 points and they just blow them out.
Andy Holloway
They take care of business.
Jason Moore
So I do think this is a game where, you know, if you want to throw one of those wide receivers in, maybe you can say if it's windy and you're up a lot, maybe it's Khalil. Shakir is the safe option. They're not the 50 yard bomb.
Mike Wright
Shakir, for you no matter what.
Jason Moore
No. Well, I think, yeah, I mean, I guess Shakira is the safest for sure.
Andy Holloway
I see here Thielen, though.
Mike Wright
Oh, that's a tough question.
Andy Holloway
By the way, I have feeling I have a plan for you guys. I think that would be really cool. Save your money, Arthur. Combine and save your money for a few years. Yes. Both of you.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Andy Holloway
Build a stadium.
Jason Moore
Oh, we're going to start saving and.
Mike Wright
That'S all of our money.
Andy Holloway
Build it. Yeah, it's all of it. Build a dome. And then when you have the dome, every time you see a bad weather game coming up, invite the teams to play.
Jason Moore
Ah.
Andy Holloway
And then if they turn down, if they turn you down, it's like you had a dome available.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
But that money, they are they a lot.
Jason Moore
I think they're a lot of money. Probably more than the stadium.
Andy Holloway
Stadium.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Well, a lot of.
Mike Wright
If you're a billionaire, it's actually not that much because then you just make other people pay for it. It's really nice.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. We could do like a tax thing, right? Like there was 6,000% tax on the.
Mike Wright
UDK we just make other people pay for our dome.
Jason Moore
I am in. And I'm not. I'm not joking. If we can. If we can do that, I'm in.
Andy Holloway
100% in. Oh, so if you don't have to pay for it, you are in.
Jason Moore
Yeah, but we own it.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
Just like the people pay for it.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah. We get a bunch of revenue.
Jason Moore
Like, I don't necessarily want to pay taxes to build people's domes. Right?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Because it's weird.
Jason Moore
Totally fine on the other side.
Mike Wright
Got it.
Jason Moore
If other people are building me a dome. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Who was that? Did you guys ever see that. That documentary about the guy that pretended he was a super billionaire and got in a league? Yeah. He was, like, buying the. It. Was it the Nets? The Knicks?
Jason Moore
I forget. But I know what you're talking about. It was all.
Andy Holloway
It was all fake. And he just. He got way down the road on buying the team.
Mike Wright
So it's possible.
Andy Holloway
So it's possible.
Jason Moore
So you're telling me there's a team.
Andy Holloway
I can't remember what team it was.
Mike Wright
This game is. Look, I'm not. I'm playing Allen. I'm playing James Cook. That's all these things. But this game gives me the heebie jeebies.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
Of, like, not as great as you think. As in, the randos on the Bills score, and then they're just, like, cruising. Like, what. What are the Patriots going to do here? What are they going to do?
Jason Moore
Oh, the Patriots are going to fold.
Andy Holloway
Ramondre is not going to be great. But the matchup, at least they give up 22 fantasy points a game to running backs. You hope it comes early.
Mike Wright
Yes, you do.
Andy Holloway
And Hunter Henry's receiving line is 42 and a half. Hunter Henry is not a path to a championship to me.
Mike Wright
Dallas businessman John Spano tended to buy the New York islanders.
Andy Holloway
Yep. For $165 million. Yes. It was a 30 for 30. And it was so fascinating. And it was all fake.
Mike Wright
At what point of the con are you like, I gotta get out of this thing.
Jason Moore
Like, you're gonna.
Mike Wright
They're gonna find out.
Jason Moore
This is. At some point, you got to pay the bill.
Mike Wright
This isn't like you got a free dinner. You're buying a sports team.
Andy Holloway
The idea that you go down the line, like, I'm gonna buy a suit. Yeah. I'm a buy suit. I'm gonna have a limo drop me off.
Mike Wright
That's amazing.
Andy Holloway
Produced a bunch. I think he produced a bunch of.
Jason Moore
120 bucks left, so.
Andy Holloway
Produced a bunch of fake documents.
Mike Wright
It's like the billionaires. Like, I forgot my wallet again. Guys, can you get this check?
Andy Holloway
Yeah. All right. Jacksonville 3 and 11, the Raiders 2 and 12. No, neither of these teams should try to win this game. The DraftKings sportsbook line is Las Vegas minus one and a half. The over under is 40. Which team should try so hard to lose?
Jason Moore
Which team is worse coached? Which team has. Yeah, I agree. That's who wins the game.
Andy Holloway
Oh, because they make the bad decisions, right?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
I mean, Aiden O'Connell is going to be back.
Jason Moore
Aiden O'Connell is supposed to be back, which is great news for Brock Bowers. I think it's great news for Jacoby Myers. You know, with Jacoby Myers, in four games with Aiden O'Connell, he's averaging 12.7 fantasy points per game and 10 targets. So to me, that's just as good. I have that above my Adam Thielen line, but he's right there in line.
Andy Holloway
Brock Bowers needs 109 receiving yards to break the NFL record for a rookie tight end.
Jason Moore
Oh, Mike Ditka's record. Yeah, he'll get there.
Andy Holloway
He has not been prolific of late. Even with Aiden O'Connell, he did have a number one overall finish because he can go 10 for 140. But the three other weeks surrounding it outside the top 15 at the position. So, you know, any defense that wants to try to stop this team, that would be the guy to try to cover. Brian Thomas Jr. Has been awesome with Mac Jones. Mac Jones is just chucking it. He's got as many 20 fantasy 20 point fantasy games as CJ Stroud this.
Jason Moore
Year, which is one.
Andy Holloway
Which is one. Etienne and Bigsby. Are we freaking out if we have to put them in our lineups?
Jason Moore
Yeah, I don't think you want to put them in the lineups. You're going to be able to throw pretty easily on the Raiders.
Mike Wright
And I think you're okay with etn.
Jason Moore
Really, I do.
Mike Wright
He's been better. Like, he has visibly looked better to me on the last couple of weeks. He's been in the last, you know, last two games about 10 points. So it's like it's both of these.
Jason Moore
The issue with both of these guys is both of these guys. Right, right. You know, the last two weeks you had Tank Bigsby with 18 carries and 11 carries. So the fact that they are really sharing work just makes it difficult for either one to have a good.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I would totally agree, but I think that ETN's like, I think he's safe to give you eight points or.
Jason Moore
So because of the passing work.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And then on the other side, like what do you do with. The Raiders have quietly given us running back production. Like it's been gross. But we're back to Alexander Madison as the primary guy. Is DK rushing lines only 46 and a half, which. That sounds about right. But he has managed to get into the end zone a few times. Are you. If you're desperate, are you looking at Madison or Travis etn?
Jason Moore
I would rather go with the talent of etn. Both of these teams don't scare me. The matchup is good for Madison, but Amir Abdullah is still a pass catching back. I would rather have the pass catching of ETN and the talent of ETN over Alexander Madison. But he's. I mean they're close. They're not far apart.
Mike Wright
Madison, what a horrible game to have.
Andy Holloway
To watch with your players in there.
Mike Wright
Madison over the, you know, the, the first portion of the season before he got hurt, missed a bunch of time and McCormick had his games. I mean he was still getting targets. Six targets. Three one, three, five. Three five. Like, I don't know. I think Madison is. It's. It is disgusting and it's bottom of the barrel. You're hoping you don't have to do it, but like, like you're sitting on Tony Pollard. You get really bad news heading into the weekends. Like what do you do?
Jason Moore
Sure, you could throw Patrick Taylor into that kind of. Yeah, the mix.
Mike Wright
You would go Taylor over.
Jason Moore
I think I would go Taylor over these guys. I will say this. This game could be sneaky good. You just said Andy, like you what. What a bad game to watch. Mike, on Sunday Live last week you pointed out that even though there wasn't a high over under, it was kind of a low over under. Looked like two lousy teams and the jets and the Jaguars that like you could just have two bad defenses that end up giving you a lot of fantasy production.
Andy Holloway
And that was two bad defenses.
Jason Moore
That was a, you know, a beautiful offensive output. I think you could see that again if Aiden O'Connell is starting, which it looks like it's happening.
Andy Holloway
That's.
Jason Moore
That's true. Jacoby Myers and Brock Bowers and Alexander Madison could all end up with good games. While Brian Thomas and Travis ETN also have big games. So hopefully this turns into Britain strange.
Andy Holloway
I mean, 11 targets. They said he's going to be out there. 11 catches on 12 targets.
Jason Moore
It's a great matchup for tight ends.
Andy Holloway
So he's still an option. A desperation play. I agree and yeah, I hope you pivot back to nope, not going to do it. But I could. You never know. All right, we'll take a break. We'll get into the rest of the matchups.
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Andy Holloway
Well Patrick Taylor and the 49ers at 6 and 8 taking on the 6 and 8 Miami Dolphins in Miami San Francisco on the road 1 point favorites the over unders 44 and a.
Jason Moore
Half Shanahan versus McDaniel.
Andy Holloway
Yeah yeah and this they were together for a really really long time on coaching staffs throughout the years. We are down to the fifth string running back for San Francisco. The a lot of their offense is predicated on a competent running game. I don't have the Patrick Taylor confidence that maybe I'm not quite where Jason is just believing that it'll be all him. But to be fair that's a shot you could take.
Jason Moore
To be fair my confidence is that it'll be all someone like it could be Keyshawn Vaughn, but I think it's going to be Patrick Taylor. We've seen him on the field before. We've seen them give carries when when Grindo Got hurt and he had to, you know, he was the next man up. So I do think it's going to be Patrick Taylor. The matchup here is not the best against the Dolphins, but they're not like a top five defense against running backs. But if you've got a guy getting all of the work that's just valuable.
Andy Holloway
For fantasy, definitely play a chan his receiving line receptions wise, five and a half. I think Tyree Kill will be okay in this game with the injury to Waddle. His line is also five and a half receptions and that is exactly where Johnny Smith's line is. So five and a half for all three of those.
Mike Wright
Yeah, everyone gets five and a half.
Andy Holloway
Malik Washington would be like a sneaky DFS punt play type of player with Waddle being out with no obj.
Mike Wright
Oh, would he?
Andy Holloway
You said. Or would he?
Jason Moore
No, he.
Mike Wright
Oh, would he?
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Juwan Jennings on the other side, his line 62 and a half. Juan Jennings, I like him this week. I think you will be. You'll be happy. He's in your lineup, Kittle's in your lineup and then Jason, where are you with two? After the really disappointing performance last week, he's also like there is like he's going to play but he's got a hip injury.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not excited about Tua at all. Shanahan knows McDaniel's system. I don't think he's going to be surprised. A lot of teams that get used to the system kind of figure it out better with the motion and those type of things. So I think you're going to have a good game plan here from Shanahan who is still playing for the playoffs.
Mike Wright
Is there a chance we just have an absolute stink fest?
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think so. I really do think so because both.
Mike Wright
Coaches know the other person and their.
Jason Moore
Tendencies so well and you've got some really important banged up pieces. I mean obviously we know The San Francisco 49ers offense, the running back room has been decimated, but they're also, they're bad at wide receiver. You know, Juwan Jennings is there one. Debo has disappeared.
Andy Holloway
Pierce all disappeared.
Jason Moore
Ayuk is gone. So. And you got Waddle on the other side. I'm not excited for this game as some kind of great fantasy explosion like an offensive performance.
Mike Wright
And you see the news that Trent Williams might be out for the season.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah. That's going to hurt fifth string running back Patrick Taylor a little bit or whoever else gets opportunities on Sunday night. We get the Buccaneers 8 and 6. Taking on the 6 and 8. Dallas Cowboys, Tampa Road Favorites by 4 over unders 48. That is the highest of the week. We have some news here. Baker Mayfield, Laser Mayfield himself could be the new Kirk Cousins of primetime. He has lost.
Mike Wright
Oh, no.
Andy Holloway
Eight straight prime time starts.
Jason Moore
Laser, what's going on?
Andy Holloway
Phasers and lasers don't. Can't handle prime time.
Jason Moore
Laser. I think he can. I'm not too worried about history of wins and losses. I care about performances. That was the thing with Kirk Cousins for a long time was he can't ever win the big game. And you go and you look at the statistics like it's not. It wasn't his fault. He was playing pretty well. He had, like, a couple really bad personal performances to start that run and then was very good, but they kept losing, and it got overblown. This is a. This is a fun game. It is. Yes. You know, I think that the Dallas Cowboys defense is not what it, you know, once was, and then they lost digs once it started getting better. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense is destroyed as well. You have. At least Cooper Rush is capable enough, I think, against this Buccaneers team to score and keep Baker on the field. Having to. Having to, you know, widen the gap.
Andy Holloway
The buccaneers implied point holes, 26. It's the highest over under the week. It's one of the reasons I like Jalen McMillan a lot. The Hotten injuries. Another reason. The fact that he's been on an upward trend as a young rookie who's finally, you know, catching a higher percentage of his passes. Getting on the same page. I like him as a flex. Evans is in your lineup. Rashad White's been the RB10 since week seven. He's in your lineup. Bucky Irving, if he's active, you got to play him. That's where I'm at.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's where I am, too.
Andy Holloway
He's just too. He's too good. And I think if he's active, he's.
Mike Wright
Been limited this week in practice, so it's not the same terror as last week, where it was like, just nothing. You're like, I hope he's okay.
Andy Holloway
Mike, you are inching very close on your bold prediction. You had said Rico Dowdle would be a top 20 running back. He is RB23 in total points, 27 and fantasy points per game, and is.
Mike Wright
Playing in semifinal matchups.
Andy Holloway
Is he playing on your team?
Mike Wright
You're darn right he is.
Andy Holloway
So I'm facing Dowdle.
Mike Wright
You will.
Andy Holloway
And there's. It's. It's Wild when you'd much rather have him on your team than Ramon Dre. For this matchup. His career highs in rushing yardage have been 112. Then he went to 131. Then he went to 149. Top 10 performances in three straight weeks. It was the Giant, Cincinnati and Carolina. So we're going to contextualize it. Those are juicy.
Mike Wright
But 19 for 86 against Washington before that run happened has not been catching.
Andy Holloway
The ball as much.
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
With Cooper Rush.
Mike Wright
That. That's been. That has been just. Well, he had plenty of games with Cooper Rush catching passes. I mean, Rush has been the starter. You're right in. It has been lately, though, that it has disappeared. So Mike McCarthy, let's get the. Let's get the passes dialed up here. But also. You're welcome, Mike.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Freaking idiot.
Andy Holloway
Are you talking to yourself?
Mike Wright
No, I'm talking to coach Mike McCarthy. There's too many.
Jason Moore
Mike.
Andy Holloway
You're welcome, Mike.
Mike Wright
Yeah, no, I know. There's a little bit too many of us.
Andy Holloway
Tampa's been number one against the run the last six weeks, so maybe that's a red flag for a big game. I don't know. But Rico dowdles in a lot of lineups and you know, it's been nice that CD Lamb has been getting it done with Cooper Rush.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Despite him being banged up.
Mike Wright
And he will get it done again.
Andy Holloway
It seems that way. And then I think we're just staying away from the tight end position in Dallas at this point.
Mike Wright
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. It's not been good since Ferguson's returned, so I think that summarizes that one pretty good. Monday we got the 5 and 9 Saints against the 10 and 4 Green Bay packers, where Green Bay is now sitting as a 14 point home favorite. It's my favorite defense of the week. The packers at home against Spencer Rattler and nobody else. The overrunners, 42 points. That gives the Saints the lowest of the week. 14 points on offense. I really don't know how they move the football. I don't think Kendrick Miller is. It's hard for Camara to produce when the offense is this bad. And he still finds a way generally in the passing game. I Kendra Miller's rushing lines at 51. Like you're playing a dowdle over Kendra Miller, right?
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. You're playing a Pollard even with the health concerns over a Kendra Miller.
Jason Moore
Yeah, if Pollard is active, I'm going to be playing Pollard.
Andy Holloway
Let me read you. Literally the most popular start sits on the site. Ford or Kendra Miller. Miller or Taylor? Miller or Downs?
Mike Wright
Miller or we?
Andy Holloway
Miller or McMillan? Miller or Tracy? Miller or Dowdle? Miller or Pacheco? Miller or Spears? Miller or Brian Robinson?
Jason Moore
So Kendra Miller is a big question for people.
Andy Holloway
He is the biggest question of the and I wish I could tell you I've seen enough film of Kendra Miller to have the confidence that he's going to do great things.
Jason Moore
I have seen enough film of Kendra Miller to have confidence he can do great things. I've also seen enough film of Spencer Rattler to not be sure that he can do great, that Kendra can do great things with this offense. You have no Chris Olave. You have no Camara. You have no Taysom Hill.
Andy Holloway
You have no idea.
Jason Moore
You have no Derek. Yeah. You have no mbs. This offense is just kind of a skeleton crew.
Andy Holloway
Would you take the over under on their implied total of 14.3 points? Because I'm taking the under.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I would probably go towards the under. So I like Kendra Miller. You can always end up voluming your way to a good game and getting a touchdown. But I am so against this specific matchup and the belief in the team that most of those options, not all of them, but most of them. I would go the other way.
Andy Holloway
You play Kendra Miller or Josh Downs because it'll be a flex decision for.
Jason Moore
People and it definitely should be a flex as a Monday Night Football game. So get them out of your running back slot. I think I would go Kendra and Madison.
Andy Holloway
The Madison. Kendra Miller decision.
Jason Moore
I would go Madison.
Mike Wright
That's a fair question.
Andy Holloway
Jordan loves my start of the week at the quarterback position. Jacob's been amazing. What do you do with the roulette of letdowns that you get in Green Bay receiving options? This is such a plus matchup. You know, Jaden Reed. I don't see the split right in front of me here. He was like the. He was like the wide receiver 7 through the first 10 weeks. It's been like the wide receiver 46 since.
Mike Wright
So juiced from week one though, like, it was. Let me go look at his actual numbers.
Andy Holloway
But it was like two huge points. Was 4 for 138 in a touchdown.
Mike Wright
31, 31 points in week one and 23 in week four.
Andy Holloway
And that's kind of how it goes with him. Like, are you playing him? I mean, there are a lot of people with injuries. No more David Montgomery. I know Kyle's in that situation.
Mike Wright
I don't think he's a horrifically bad play. But you're.
Andy Holloway
Is it Watson? Is it Dobbs? Is It. Reed, what's the order?
Mike Wright
I would put Watson at the top.
Andy Holloway
That's where I'm at.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Right now.
Jason Moore
I would as well.
Mike Wright
But I trailed off because I'm. My confidence level is not high.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Dobbs got the touchdowns last week.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. And that snatching that one right off the ground.
Andy Holloway
Did you see his interview about that catch?
Mike Wright
I did not.
Andy Holloway
He's very. He was a very Kawhi Leonard. He was like Romeo. They're like, talk about that catch. And then he just like kind of sat there and he's just like, yeah, I just like, I caught the ball. I was like, all right.
Mike Wright
Yeah, because we don't have to talk to everybody.
Andy Holloway
That would be. Yeah, no, we know that, Mike. We know.
Mike Wright
I'm saying talking to the athletes like that's not their job is to go play football.
Andy Holloway
The only message we would have gotten from Mike this week would have been a small message that just said, I am dead.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And then you would have let us know and that would have been it. But you're back and just in time.
Jason Moore
Fantasy Face off, presented by DraftKings.
Andy Holloway
Well, well, well. Last week I managed to bring it home. 151.
Mike Wright
You dominated. And then almond raw stole my second place.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Thank you.
Andy Holloway
Jason won by two points over Mike, making Mike the shame. It's time to spin.
Jason Moore
Wheel of Shame.
Mike Wright
All right, Spin the wheel.
Andy Holloway
Right back in the studio just in time for the wheel of Shane.
Mike Wright
I hope it's something that covers my mouth breathing. Ho ho. Hopeless. Oh, what do we got a. Oh, we got a full Santa gear.
Andy Holloway
It's holiday season.
Jason Moore
The holiday season.
Mike Wright
Okay. Coat.
Jason Moore
Got a beard.
Andy Holloway
Got a wig.
Mike Wright
A wig.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Merry freaking Christmas.
Mike Wright
All right, you'll have to go to someone else. We're going to need about a five minute.
Andy Holloway
Go to my camera. What is this? And then we'll reveal Santa Claus.
Jason Moore
Hide Mike for a minute while he transforms.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, what do you have on your Christmas list this year?
Jason Moore
Well, I can't say it yet. I want to go sit on Mike's lap here and let him know I wouldn't recommend it. Yeah, I guess probably not the right.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, Cole in the stocking in the form of Breeze Hall. You've already got that for Christmas?
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah, yeah. All I want.
Andy Holloway
Oh, this is good. I hope, I hope. We bought this. This wig from the same place he bought those darn troll wigs for us so that he can breathe it for the next six to eight years. But here's working on it. No, no, no. We'll pan back to you momentarily.
Jason Moore
I think the beard looks a little higher quality here.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, no, we spared no expense. No expense. This is good. This is very good. All right, well, I'll get it started. We've got our fantasy face off for the week, revealing our lineups. I am going to right a wrong. I mean, not that it was a wrong I won last week, but I'm actually going. Aaron Rodgers this week. 5600. He's at home. He's been playing great. And I'm taking Aaron Rodgers in the savings.
Jason Moore
Wow. Okay, okay. I'm going to go take even more savings.
Andy Holloway
You forgot the glasses, Mike.
Jason Moore
I'm going way down.
Andy Holloway
You can go ahead and bring the camera back.
Jason Moore
Supes at 4500. Michael Pennix Jr. Oh, this is good for us, Mike.
Andy Holloway
This is good for us, Mike.
Jason Moore
I'm just playing wild this Christmas season.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Mike Wright
Scared money don't make money, Jason. Michael Pennix.
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah, you're.
Andy Holloway
You're done, right?
Mike Wright
I mean, he's playing.
Jason Moore
Whoa.
Mike Wright
What?
Jason Moore
What do I look like?
Andy Holloway
That beard is not the best.
Jason Moore
That beard is growing out of your eyes.
Andy Holloway
That's not a mustache.
Jason Moore
It's above your nose.
Andy Holloway
Lower that down. That's supposed to go below your nose, Mike.
Jason Moore
You got to put it below your nose.
Andy Holloway
There you go. That's where the mouth holds.
Mike Wright
All right.
Jason Moore
Yeah, there we go.
Andy Holloway
Now you look like jolly old Saint Nick. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Michael Penns.
Andy Holloway
Did you go Michael Pennix?
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
He's playing the New York giants and he's $4,500.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. No, I paid a little bit more than you did. My running backs, Jameer Gibbs, 7500. James Conner, 7100, same.
Jason Moore
Jameer Gibbs and James Conner are mine.
Andy Holloway
So we are just eating up that money, sharing those.
Mike Wright
Oh, we got. I got plenty more money.
Andy Holloway
Devonte Adams at 7100, stacking with Rogers. Marvin Harrison all the way down at 5,400. Now too much for Arizona. And Malik Washington at 3,700 is my savings.
Jason Moore
My savings is good. I thought about going to Malik Washington and just burning $1,000. I've got Keon Coleman at 4700. He was my savings. I've got your start of the week. Jackson Smith in Jigba. He's a great play. And Brian Thomas Jr. At 6300 in that Jacksonville game.
Mike Wright
I like the Brian Thomas there. I have Malik Washington at 3700. I have Joanne Jennings hopefully correlating in the same game at 5,900. And then who's this guy. Oh, Jamar chase.
Andy Holloway
I figured 8,500. That's a lot of. That's a lot of quiche. That is the gap between your Michael Pinnocks and Rogers is the gap between chasing out.
Mike Wright
Right.
Andy Holloway
My tight end. No surprise here. Chiga Conquo 3400 my flex. You might know him as Devon HN7400.
Mike Wright
Nice.
Andy Holloway
And I'm going Titans defense in the upset that I picked earlier against the mistake prone Anthony Richardson.
Jason Moore
2600 go listen to that Brian Callahan conference. You're going to like it. I've got Chig at 3400. At tight end as well. My flex is going to be very interesting. It's a chase off between me and Mike. You've got Jamar Chase. I've got Chase Brown in the running game at 7700. So I paid up for the running backs. And then I've got the 49ers, Shanahan against Miami and Tua.
Mike Wright
I have Trey McBride because I'm told he's going to score a touchdown every single week at 6200. Even if he doesn't score a touchdown. The dude is just ppring his way into greatness. Running 12 personnel out yet again. Currently have Brenton Strange in there at 3,500. I'll probably have to pivot to Chig because he's like right around the same amount of money should Strange not play. And then I have. I'm going with the other defense and I'm taking the Colts. I'll take the home team. 3,000 against Mason Rudolph.
Jason Moore
Ho ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Andy Holloway
Well, we did just get some breaking news here. Nick Sirianni talking about AJ Brown's knee injury which just popped up on the injury report Thursday.
Mike Wright
Oh, no.
Andy Holloway
We'll see. He said about whether.
Mike Wright
Oh, no.
Andy Holloway
Whether he'll practice today. Oh, we'll see about whether he'll practice. Okay, something to monitor here. We do have an injury blitz podcast coming out soon.
Jason Moore
So I actually have Devonte Smith, 54.
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 16 Matchups + Mike's Back, Wheel of Shame!
Release Date: December 20, 2024
[02:38] Andy Holloway:
The episode kicks off with a warm welcome back to Mike Wright, affectionately referred to as "The Fantasy Hitman." After a noticeable absence, Mike rejoins the trio, prompting light-hearted banter about his time away.
[03:01] Mike Wright:
Mike humorously shares his experience during his absence, likening it to being stuck in a "phantom zone" due to illness.
[04:10] Mike Wright:
Expressing relief at being back, Mike jokes about not aging during his hiatus, adding to the camaraderie among the hosts.
As the season nears its end, the hosts discuss the approaching semifinal week and the strategies required to navigate the final matchups leading to the championship.
[04:24] Andy Holloway:
Andy highlights the importance of preparing for the Fantasy Face Off segment and hints at the upcoming championship week, noting unexpected scheduling changes affecting some managers.
The focus shifts to a detailed analysis of the Thursday Night Football matchup between the Denver Broncos and their opponent.
[06:00] Mike Wright:
Mike critiques the Broncos' backfield rotation, questioning the strategic depth behind their constant running back substitutions.
"Them rotating their running back literally every snap felt not it to me. It didn't feel fully strategic." [06:04]
[07:00] Jason Moore:
Jason points out the excessive wind sprints by the Broncos, leading to fatigue among their running backs.
"It's literally more than they run when they get the ball on the vast majority of occasions." [07:00]
[07:18] Andy Holloway:
Andy praises Justin Herbert's exceptional performance, particularly highlighting a standout play by Darius Davis.
"This was a game where I think just the greatness of Justin Herbert was on display." [07:14]
[08:21] Jason Moore:
Jason expresses disappointment over Cortland Sutton's underwhelming performance, emphasizing the importance of consistent player output in fantasy leagues.
"Cortland Sutton ... scored about a point and a half under where they had him projected." [08:32]
The hosts provide updates on key player injuries impacting fantasy lineups, discussing the implications for upcoming games.
[10:46] Andy Holloway:
Andy announces the status of several players, including Patrick Mahomes and Joe Mixon, who are now cleared to play.
"Patrick Mahomes off the injury report will play because, of course, this was good news." [10:46]
[11:50] Mike Wright:
Mike humorously suggests alternative footwear for Rashad Bateman to cope with his walking boot.
"Has he considered getting a running boot?" [11:53]
[13:04] Mike Wright:
Mike criticizes the team's approach to handling concussions, advocating for better player management.
"Sometimes you are trying to push someone through a concussion protocol even more..." [13:04]
The discussion delves into various NFL matchups, analyzing team performances and advising on fantasy lineup decisions.
[14:10] Mike Wright:
Mike highlights the potential return of Kenneth Walker, discussing the risks and rewards of including him in fantasy lineups against a strong Minnesota defense.
"Are we back?" [14:12]
[15:18] Jason Moore:
Jason reminisces about Kenneth Walker's performance against the Detroit Lions, underscoring his dual threat as a runner and receiver.
"He was the running back, too, with three touchdowns." [15:21]
[17:18] Andy Holloway:
Andy examines the dilemma of choosing between players like Jerome Ford and Kendra Miller, emphasizing the importance of workload and matchup favorability.
"Where you have an opportunity that just screams start me." [17:18]
A competitive segment where the hosts reveal their fantasy lineups for the week, followed by the Wheel of Shame—a light-hearted segment highlighting the least performing players.
[63:18] Andy Holloway:
Andy showcases his fantasy lineup, strategically selecting players like Aaron Rodgers and James Conner.
"I'm going Titian defense in the upset that I picked earlier against the mistake prone Anthony Richardson." [66:10]
[63:35] Jason Moore:
Jason humorously complains about Mike's beard while revealing his own lineup choices, such as Jamar Chase and Travis Etienne.
"I'm taking a shotgun." [67:08]
[63:43] Mike Wright:
Mike participates in the Wheel of Shame, receiving a playful reprimand for his less-than-stellar fantasy choices.
"This is good." [63:43]
The hosts conclude with final thoughts on upcoming games, offering personalized advice for fantasy managers.
[68:03] Jason Moore:
Jason expresses confidence in selecting players like Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Etienne, despite their recent underperformance.
"I think he's safe to give you eight points or..." [46:46]
[69:07] Jason Moore:
Jason announces an upcoming "Injury Blitz" podcast, aiming to provide detailed injury updates and their impacts on fantasy lineups.
"So I actually have Devonte Smith, 54." [68:55]
The episode wraps up with final interactions among the hosts, reinforcing their camaraderie and teasing future segments.
[70:10] Andy Holloway:
Andy humorously addresses the ongoing joke about Mike's beard, ensuring a light-hearted end to the episode.
"You're done, right?" [66:20]
Mike Wright on Broncos' Running Back Rotation:
"Them rotating their running back literally every snap felt not it to me. It didn't feel fully strategic." [06:04]
Jason Moore on Kenneth Walker's Dual Threat:
"He was the running back, too, with three touchdowns." [15:21]
Andy Holloway on Justin Herbert's Performance:
"This was a game where I think just the greatness of Justin Herbert was on display." [07:14]
Jason Moore on Fan Engagement:
"I think the matchup is so good here." [37:07]
Player Management: Understanding player workloads and injury statuses is crucial for optimizing fantasy lineups, especially in the high-stakes semifinal week.
Matchup Analysis: Evaluating team strategies and defenses can provide valuable insights into player performance potential for the week.
Fantasy Strategies: Balancing between star players and breakout potentials, as well as being adaptable to last-minute changes, remains essential for securing a championship title.
Community Engagement: The hosts encourage listeners to provide feedback to continually improve the show, fostering a supportive fantasy football community.
Stay tuned for more expert analyses, insights, and entertaining discussions to help you dominate your fantasy leagues. Until next week, happy managing!