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Andy Holloway
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Welcome in. The Fantasy Footballers Podcast. If you're watching on YouTube, we're focused on one camera right now and it is the camera of a man who is dead.
Andy Holloway
Well, I have no soul. It was taken from me by Mike Wright, the fantasy hitman.
Jason Moore
So did he end up winning?
Andy Holloway
Let me check in on what I need. I've got Jonathan Taylor. So that is pretty cool. And my team did fairly well. You know, it's. They, you know, they showed up, obviously, Josh Jacobs, that, that sucked. Got five points there. But I just need doing some quick math here. Jonathan Taylor needs to outscore Christian McCaffrey and George Kittle by 60. So Mike went nuke. I mean, Mike just like, he really, what happened? Whipped me like a rented mule and he took some anger out.
Jason Moore
Yeah, your day went from. Because you talk a lot of pessimism all the time. It's a coping mechanism. I'm sure your doctors have talked to you about that.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, many times.
Jason Moore
And so you had been like last Week you thought you were going to lose last week and then you won last week and then this week you said you were going to lose to Mike, but in your heart.
Andy Holloway
Oh, in my heart.
Jason Moore
In your heart you thought, what if I win a championship?
Andy Holloway
Well, in the beginning of the day things were going bad well for both of us.
Jason Moore
Dak was a little better than Burrow to start the day.
Andy Holloway
Dak got off to a good start. Burrow got off to a good start. We're just going to be a fight.
Jason Moore
And then, and then everything changed. I think when Chase Brown like Jake Paul. Oh, you did. You broke your jaw in two places. Yeah, yeah. You the Chase Brown stack with Burrow twice right in your face.
Andy Holloway
Here's the truth.
Jason Moore
Jason went home about right then.
Andy Holloway
Here's. Here's the truth. Mike had the most magical weekend humanly possible.
Jason Moore
It really was. I don't know what happened.
Andy Holloway
Faced Mike.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Mike is in almost every championship that matters to us. There's a couple. The listener league right now you've got a little bit.
Mike Wright
The magic of the listener league didn't completely come through.
Jason Moore
No, because you had a concussion of.
Mike Wright
Trejo in that I should have easily won against. Currently we are the top two projected totals. So I mean that's how it's got to go.
Jason Moore
We have another league where it was like my one saving grace. That'll be the title game. I'm easily in. I have Puka, James Cook, Devon Achan.
Mike Wright
I stopped checking on that.
Jason Moore
Mike stopped checking on it. And then all of a sudden we see Jaylen Warren go for a 45 year touchdown. And I think to myself, I think I'm playing Warren someplace and I go and look and it's against Mike. But I'm like, whatever. I'm still at one point in the middle of the morning, I'm projected to win by 70, 65 points. And then I was like, oh my gosh, Jaylen Warren. And then he did it again.
Mike Wright
Yeah, Jalen Warren was.
Jason Moore
And that's not pretty good. I mean, the way Jason feels isn't even as bad as the way Al Borland feels because I'm going to the Doosers alley right now. Oh, man, Al Borland is wearing. And let me be clear, Alborn is the biggest Packer fan on the planet. We had a Christmas party on Saturday night. He had a bet. Apparently, I learned five minutes ago, he had a bet with Jake, the biggest Bears fan on the planet. And well, the Bears came back in a miraculous fashion. I, at one point after the ending of the game I glanced outside my backyard and saw a grown man throwing his cheese head into my pool umbrella. That man was Al Borland, who is now wearing a Brian Erlacher jersey, I believe, with Jay Grizz back behind him. And.
Mike Wright
And you got a bear's mug.
Andy Holloway
Bears mug. How are you feeling?
Jason Moore
Yeah, how are you doing? It's. It's not my best day.
Mike Wright
DUB AIRS hey, there it is. There it is.
Jason Moore
He's got some contractual obligations this morning.
Mike Wright
So it's a man of mine that.
Andy Holloway
Makes me feel happy because suffering around you, misery loves company. I am miserable. And it makes me very happy, Jeremy, to see you be miserable. How does that make you feel?
Jason Moore
Slightly better.
Andy Holloway
Dubbears There it is.
Jason Moore
So there is pain. All of our good fortune absorbed by Mike, who is living a good life right now. And we are here to reflect on a semifinal weekend that still has one game left. Still have Philip Rivers on a Monday Night Football evening where Juwan Jennings and Christian McCaffrey and Brock Purdy and George Kittle have relevance tonight. And Jonathan Taylor. So we, we will get into it. We have your reactions from the weekend. Some stuff went really, really sideways. I mean, there were a handful of players that. From out of nowhere. Oh, by the way, the team that Mike's going to beat me with, with Jalen Warren, he also started Quentin Johnston from. From injury to 19 points.
Mike Wright
It's the Cowboys.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I get it, I get it. But he was so, like, not even going to be active and then he was. I just can't take it. But we, we had some players like Trey McBride that everybody counted on that didn't have big weeks. Yeah, we had Jacoby Brissette. Right. The matchup was so perfect and he's under 15 fantasy points. So there were some, some disappointments for sure. We'll reflect on all of that today. Don't forget, we're here all year round. After the season, the footy awards, the truth series will be into the draft and free agency. It all happened so fast. So you can stay with us. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers that is the best way to view dead man in a Bears jersey in Deucers Alley. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers He's a dead.
Mike Wright
Man in a Bears jersey who is also in our dynasty finals.
Jason Moore
Oh, I'm sure he's very happy about that, but I feel like his skin is crawling to have that jersey on. What if that was sent to his.
Andy Holloway
What do you got, what do you got to say? What do you got to say about that chair? I feel like such A traitor to bears.
Jason Moore
So there you go.
Mike Wright
So like every time we talk to him.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he has to. He has to throw a debears in there.
Jason Moore
Yes. Did you have fun at the Christmas party?
Andy Holloway
Oh, good question.
Jason Moore
Yeah, we kicked some butt at cornhole. We did dub Bears.
Andy Holloway
He is going to get.
Jason Moore
He's an honorable man, I'll give him that. We we sent the call out on the Twitter sphere for your Monday punday reactions. Strong feelings on a semifinal weekend. So let's start with the good like tremendous Lawrence. Oh my goodness.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Broncos.
Mike Wright
Who Puka Nukum Bazooka Nuka James cooked.
Jason Moore
And truly Kenneth Greatwell.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Jared Gough. Go off.
Jason Moore
Yes, it's Jared. Go off.
Andy Holloway
That's a tough one.
Mike Wright
Go off.
Jason Moore
Jason kind of butchered.
Andy Holloway
Trying to make it more like Goff.
Mike Wright
Yeah, but you ruined the pun.
Jason Moore
Jalen scoring Chase Crown and Trace Brown.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Three touchdowns.
Andy Holloway
Smash.
Mike Wright
Crap. Ashton.
Andy Holloway
Ashton the Plenty and Jason.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Crystal Love. Hey, hey, hey.
Jason Moore
All those olave touchdowns. I knew how happy worthless you would have been if they had mattered. We had some bad like Almond raw stained Brown.
Mike Wright
What?
Andy Holloway
Oh, and Runaway McBride. Trey McWy. Yeah, Trey McHide.
Mike Wright
And we got the combo Jackson Fart Josh Fake Obs.
Andy Holloway
Fake London.
Mike Wright
Colby Fartkinson.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that'll work.
Mike Wright
Oh man.
Jason Moore
Oh, this will cost me a league, Rico. Doubt it.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Ah, this didn't help me Audric overestimate. No, that's a good one.
Mike Wright
And a DKO met caffeine.
Jason Moore
What?
Andy Holloway
I don't know why the dko but. Yeah.
Mike Wright
Yeah, but what is cafe? I was tracking the whole time and.
Jason Moore
Then I think the Y must have gotten thrown in by somebody there.
Andy Holloway
Dko.
Mike Wright
That's great.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Well, there you go.
Mike Wright
Freaking DK Metcalfe. That guy.
Jason Moore
Well, I mean I'm gonna.
Mike Wright
I'm gonna more interested in punching fans than playing football.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna try not to overdo it on Metcalf not knowing what exactly happened or what exactly was said because I think reports. Some reports this morning came out and said there were racial slurs involved.
Mike Wright
I assumed it was about like the worst of the worst.
Jason Moore
Not that you should punch him.
Andy Holloway
It's just.
Mike Wright
And it's the. I mean that the whole situation is unfortunate but also was his fantasy points.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah, that was. That was intense. We had. We had a lot going on this weekend. Let's talk some news.
Andy Holloway
News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.
Jason Moore
All righty. The league is looking at that situation. Monday Night Football updates. We have no Ricky Pierce saw.
Mike Wright
I heard on the Metcalf thing that someone was. One of the reporters was covering and saying the precedent is more than likely a fine.
Andy Holloway
Really?
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Wow.
Jason Moore
Is it because he didn't make direct contact? Yeah, but I don't know.
Mike Wright
He kind of whiffed. This is what they said that the president, like, of course it could be upgraded to. This might have been pro football talk. I can't remember who was saying it, but it, of course could be upgraded to a game.
Andy Holloway
But I would assume a suspension. Hitting a fan is like, that's. That. That's where you've got to set a precedent for the future of, like, it doesn't matter what's said. It doesn't matter if they throw a cup on you.
Mike Wright
You. You can't do this. Yeah. I mean, it's. It's just brutal. Like, if the fan hits him, is banned for life.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I would. I'd be. I'd be shocked if.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Well, it's just a fine.
Jason Moore
We'll see what happens. Sean McVeigh said Devonte Adams is not expected to play this week.
Mike Wright
I thought he was maybe going to play last week.
Jason Moore
Lies. McVeigh is the biggest. One of the biggest liar coaches.
Mike Wright
It's really.
Andy Holloway
We forgive him because he prints fantasy points. So it's like, that's fine. But you cannot take him at his word.
Mike Wright
He's really unbecoming. Sean McVeigh.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Tell the truth.
Jason Moore
Super bowl champion liar. That doesn't sound too bad. Quinshon Judkins suffered an ankle fracture in a dislocation very similar to Scatter Boo.
Andy Holloway
Bad one. One of those where they don't show the replay and you're sad that you saw it live.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Jordan Mason left with an injury, didn't return. Aaron Jones, not to be outdone, left.
Mike Wright
With an ankle injury, did return that one.
Jason Moore
Watch this.
Mike Wright
That one was a big bummer of. Both guys were in a great spot, and then both guys were just banged up.
Jason Moore
Yeah. And then J.J. mcCarthy went out with another injury. X rays negative. 11. MRI on the hand. It might be Max Brosmer next week.
Mike Wright
Mm.
Andy Holloway
It's weird that the X rays were negative to me, just because he was ruled out so quick. It was like, hey, he's going to locker room. Ruled out rest of the game. It's like, well, he went and got X rays, and then they're like, it's negative. He can't play.
Jason Moore
That's one of the Christmas. Christmas Day games. Yeah, it's a. I mean, he's got a. Got some tendons or something ripped up in there. Lamar Jackson exited late in the second quarter with a back injury. And I'm not going to say Mike was facing the Lamar Jackson manager with a negative projection. And then he totally just pulled that out of his butt.
Andy Holloway
I don't know what you.
Jason Moore
But that's what happened.
Andy Holloway
I don't know what you sacrificed. Mike, what kind of.
Jason Moore
Do you still have all three? White goat or a three personal problems still.
Mike Wright
Okay, one of them's around, but gosh.
Jason Moore
You had to sacrifice two.
Andy Holloway
He's two championships, guys.
Mike Wright
Okay, one per.
Andy Holloway
Rules are rules.
Jason Moore
I mean. Yeah. So Lamar left and the Ravens are ready to leave the playoffs because let me just stress this again. Josh Allen go in your championship right now because no Lamar, no Mahomes is the most likely outcome.
Andy Holloway
I mean, the fact that right now it seems highly likely that the Ravens, the Chiefs and the Lions don't not make the Super Bowl. They're not in the playoffs. Those would have been the three highest, like preseason maybe add the Bills in there. Those four teams were probably the highest picked teams to like, who's your. Who's your favorite super bowl winner? And three of those teams aren't in the playoffs.
Jason Moore
Yeah, the Lions and Ravens, I think have slim, slim chances if everything went right and they went out and the right teams lose. But they're probably all missing the playoffs right now. The AFC is a Broncos, Patriots, Jaguars, Steelers, Chargers, Bills, Texans, playoffs.
Andy Holloway
Josh.
Jason Moore
But this is.
Andy Holloway
You got to get it done.
Jason Moore
Yeah, this is, this is either. I mean, if you just look at it and this is what will make it exciting. Right? Like you're either going to have Josh Allen accomplished the dream and the goal or you're going to have a monumental moment for either Bo Nicks, Drake May or Trevor Lawrence. Right. You've got three young quarterbacks that haven't had those. Or Justin Herbert. Right. Or Aaron Rodgers does something that we don't like.
Mike Wright
Oh, goodness gracious.
Jason Moore
I mean, at least it's a storyline. This is why the NFL is so much better than every league is because I don't know, there's so much can happen with injuries. So much can happen with the. Yeah. Detroit 8% chance to make it. Baltimore 11% chance.
Mike Wright
Well, and real quick, just on the Baltimore game, as underdog tweeted it out, Derek Henry had zero touches after putting the Ravens up 24 to 13 with. With 13 minutes left in the game, like inexcusable.
Andy Holloway
And I watched Harbaugh, I watched Harbaugh talk about it afterwards and he said in hindsight he wishes he had Henry there. Which is the thing that is frustrating about that is it's. You're the coach, but it isn't hindsight. Yes, it's not hindsight. Everyone watching it live was like, what the heck?
Mike Wright
The commentators literally.
Andy Holloway
Collinsworth was like, I think the other team's got to be sending a Christmas card to not have Derek Henry on the field. And the excuse from Harbaugh was, well, they were, they were rotating and he was supposed to come back in on that drive, but the drive stopped. But why do you think the drive stopped?
Mike Wright
Why are you rotating?
Andy Holloway
Why do you think the drive did not continue going? It was because Derek Henry wasn't on the field, you dummies.
Mike Wright
Like this. And this is not. This is what I promise. This is not fantasy football related. I got the points I needed from Henry and I'm sure most did. There's probably some teams that are real frustrated. They fell a little short. But like football, what are you like, Derrick Henry is destroying the Patriots.
Andy Holloway
They could.
Mike Wright
He's getting five yards of carry.
Andy Holloway
Stop him. Every play was just easy for him.
Mike Wright
So insane, man.
Andy Holloway
And then you do two plays.
Jason Moore
Well, it's not like their entire season was on the line. Right.
Andy Holloway
No, I know. And then it's like as soon as you do a not Derek Henry, it's like, oh, shoot, our driver.
Jason Moore
That's what they call it. Yeah, they got a play sheet and there's a side that says Derek Henry. And then they have the not Derek Henry.
Andy Holloway
I mean, let's give it to Keaton Mitchell twice on this really important fourth quarter drive.
Mike Wright
I mean, just.
Andy Holloway
They won't see it coming.
Jason Moore
I mean, he should have come out and said, yeah, he twisted his ankle.
Mike Wright
As soon as Lamar left the game.
Jason Moore
It was, oh, you know, Derek Henry's.
Mike Wright
Going to get 30 more touches. And they're like, no, that would be too easy.
Jason Moore
Well, I mean, it's 24 to 13. We're going to. A big part of tomorrow's show on waivers is going to be talking about teams with playoff motivations that still, you know, this is the time of year. Playoff motivation. And then the contract incentives for veterans and big time players.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, you're going to see like the Lions. Right. I mean, they're still kind of playing. Yeah, Baltimore too, but it's. We saw with the Chiefs this last week.
Jason Moore
Yes, we did. Back on track with the almost upset.
Andy Holloway
When those great goodness. When those really great teams, not the average franchise, but the ones that aren't used to being out are out. It's different for them.
Jason Moore
Did you see that?
Andy Holloway
So Detroit's over.
Jason Moore
The only way Detroit makes the playoffs is if they win their final two games and Green Bay loses their final two games.
Mike Wright
Well, speaking of that happened, speaking of.
Jason Moore
Green Bay, if that happened, how mad would you be?
Mike Wright
Al Pretty mad.
Andy Holloway
Dub, Bears. Thank you.
Mike Wright
Thank you, Jordan. If you missed it, Jordan Love was knocked out with a concussion. And apparently Malik Willis, who is the backup quarterback for Green Bay, is pretty sore from a right shoulder injury suffered in the loss.
Andy Holloway
Oh.
Mike Wright
Who'S playing quarterback for Green Bay this week?
Andy Holloway
And you got the same situation with the Chiefs, Gardner, Minshew.
Mike Wright
Yeah, Insane.
Andy Holloway
Had.
Mike Wright
That's. That's insane.
Andy Holloway
Looks like a torn acl. I don't think it's confirmed, but that is the fear, which means that's what it's probably going to be.
Jason Moore
Do you guys want to yell some more? Pat Bryant knocked out with a car crash. I mean, he got hit so hard. Concussion, neck injury. Went to the hospital, was discharged.
Mike Wright
What are you doing? Sean Payton, Bo Nix, your team is down 14 points with how much time was it left? Andy, do you remember? It was like a minute.
Jason Moore
There was 30 seconds and they had 90 yards down.
Mike Wright
14, 30 seconds.
Jason Moore
Yeah, right around there.
Mike Wright
And you throw Pat Bryant a crosser hospital ball and guess. And he literally ends up in the hospital for. For nothing. For nothing. Now Pat Bryant just on his career now has this massive concussion for literally nothing. Freaking morons. Goodness gracious, man.
Jason Moore
Yeah. This thing where, like, we try to lose by less is an insult to all the players involved because it's not.
Mike Wright
Week two, it's not week three, where you're like, okay, let's get some stuff going. The game is over. Your team is positioning for a playoff run.
Andy Holloway
Currently. The.
Jason Moore
You know who else could have been hurt on that play? As a number six, Bo Nicks could have been hurt on that play. RJ Harvey could have been hurt on that play.
Mike Wright
So idiotic.
Jason Moore
Your offensive lineman. It's so interesting. And guess what? After the injury, what did they do? They needed out. Well, I mean, they threw a flat and then nobody tried to do anything.
Mike Wright
It's okay. We, the fans understand. There is a minute left and you're down by two touchdowns. It's impossible.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it was embarrassing.
Mike Wright
Just knee it out.
Jason Moore
Josh Allen was evaluated for a foot injury. I believe this was the second lowest fantasy production by Josh Allen in his entire career. So you talk about, like, if you went into your semifinal with Josh Allen, Trey McBride, you felt so good. And this is fantasy football. You did everything you could do it won't feel any better today. But you didn't make a mistake. Okay. You just.
Andy Holloway
You need.
Mike Wright
You need some. You just lost and luck in the place.
Jason Moore
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Jason Moore
This is funny. Before I get into the studs, I believe that Al Borland technically told one of our told Brooks not to play Josh Allen.
Andy Holloway
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
And to bench him. And he just had incredible foresight. What exactly made you so convicted about that, Al? I'm playing against Brooks this week.
Mike Wright
Oh.
Jason Moore
Oh, yeah.
Andy Holloway
Anything else to say, Dub Bears?
Mike Wright
Thank you.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you did win, so congrats on that one. Let's talk Studs.
Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
True contenders.
Mike Wright
Goodness.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, for sure.
Jason Moore
Trevor Lawrence, number one. What? And I watched. Mike and I were watching this game. I think we were all watching this game. Every play was decisive by Trevor Lawrence. That's the word that I would use the most.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Jason Moore
Decisive, but also accurate. Good decision making, escapability in the pocket. This is the best defense in football. One of the best defenses. You put up a number one fantasy production week, you win by two scores on the road in Denver. There's nothing more definitive than what Trevor Lawrence did this week with this team. And they, you know, they made the commitment to Jacoby Myers. He has a big role on this team. Britain Strange was great. Mike's start of the week.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And, you know, I don't know, I just so impressed Trevor Lawrence.
Mike Wright
We were, we were kind of like quietly mentioning, you know, when the stretch of good runs were going on, like, are you guys watching Lawrence, like, things somehow. What are we in year what, five? We're in year five. Over halfway through year five and all of a sudden you're like, something has clicked. Trevor Lawrence and this Jags team just, they look fantastic.
Jason Moore
He's the quarterback. Four.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
And before the bye week, before the bye week, Trevor Lawrence had appeared in the top 12 for fantasy quarterbacks one time. That through seven games, he was just.
Jason Moore
Hot garbage for Fantasy Ransom Updates on the software.
Andy Holloway
Well, that's the hope. I see that bi week split for him. And you look at, this is the first year with Liam Cohen, this system figuring it out. And that bye week, he came out, he was 59% accuracy. He was 59% accuracy going into the bi week. First half of the year, he's been up in the mid-60s. Most weeks since then, the yardage hasn't changed, but his quality of passes has really gone up. He was on Pace for 21 touchdowns prior to the bye week. He's on pace for 34 after the bye week. So to me, it's just like the system is clicking.
Jason Moore
It's so. I mean, it really is a testament to that head coach. It is Matthew Stafford, Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Jared Goff. Those are the rest of the top five scores of the week. You know, Mike, you said in one league you had the borough golf decision to be made.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
It would have been a two and a half point decision for you.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
It wasn't looking that way for Jared Goff. No, I. Goff performance was very much like, pretty shocked.
Mike Wright
And Jared Goff was one opi from another touchdown.
Jason Moore
What in the world was that last play?
Mike Wright
What in the world was that entire last minute of that game? It was Durunk.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, the games over.
Mike Wright
The game ended five times. They're like, nope, there's a penalty.
Jason Moore
I still just don't even under. I honestly. Maybe you guys can.
Mike Wright
The way the guy called it, the.
Jason Moore
Way he announced it.
Mike Wright
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
Which somebody summarizes.
Mike Wright
Basically, like rolled them.
Jason Moore
You start with like, hey, there is a touchdown on the field. But also, screw you, no touchdown. That was the announcement.
Mike Wright
I loved the ruling on the field was a touchdown. And the crowd goes crazy, you know. But there was a penalty.
Jason Moore
You know, the final go. The final sentence was there was no touchdown. You started with there's a touchdown and you ended with there is no touchdown. I.
Mike Wright
There's probably protocol. Gotta go where the way that the refs have to say the. You know, say what happened during the play? Not on that one. No. That all goes away.
Jason Moore
And you just say inside thoughts.
Mike Wright
You say, there was a penalty on the offense. The game is over.
Andy Holloway
It's a doctor from arrested development. It's like, he looks like he's not going to make it. Oh, my gosh. No, he just looks like he's sleepy.
Jason Moore
Oh, my gosh.
Andy Holloway
He's.
Mike Wright
He's all left.
Jason Moore
Oh, is that the referees getting out of town? Yeah. So look, that game was crazy. And it was super consequential as well. Justin Herbert had a great day against Dallas. We can't be too surprised about that. The Dallas Cowboys allowing the most fantasy points per game to quarterbacks of the last five years. Just kidding. All time.
Mike Wright
We thank you for your service.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they have. They have been. They're the real mvp. You want a footy for best performance of the year?
Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah.
Jason Moore
In fantasy, it's Dallas defense.
Andy Holloway
They should be up there.
Jason Moore
I want them in contention for a vote. I wouldn't mind sending all those guys an award. It's the only one they'll get this year.
Andy Holloway
Joe Burrow, do we have any health update on Marcus. Mario. Mariota yet? Because. Oh, I'm sorry. Mariota.
Mike Wright
There you go.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Mariato, we now have like three.
Andy Holloway
I know.
Mike Wright
I was going back to round.
Jason Moore
I was going to draft there that.
Mike Wright
Play the Cowboys next week.
Andy Holloway
Yes, he does.
Jason Moore
I see. I see now I understand. I thought that was just you breaking in for one of your teams in the middle of studs for no reason.
Andy Holloway
No, no, it was the Cowboys.
Jason Moore
Joe Burrow got it done and then.
Andy Holloway
Has Era Zona Joe Burrow got it done and Mike was fine because he like in our league, our scoring, you can. You usually win when you hit 130. That's like a high score. I think I was projected about 130. Got near there. Mike is currently projected for 190. So it was. It didn't. Nothing mattered. You but Joe Burrow didn't play with.
Mike Wright
Like a whole quarterback entire fourth quarter.
Andy Holloway
It was. It was unbelievable. He did all this damage. It's unfair that he's like not the quarterback. One on the week he was a point or two off.
Mike Wright
He would have had probably six touchdowns.
Andy Holloway
He was the best quarterback of the week if Miami.
Mike Wright
If guys Queenie was.
Andy Holloway
Oh, it didn't work out.
Mike Wright
No, I mean it worked out for him.
Jason Moore
We were to read his name in the duds if anybody had started him and if his name didn't already sound you it.
Mike Wright
I mean it worked out for McDaniel of the report coming out that morning saying most likely scenario was two is gone. Coach McDaniel will keep his job. They lose, they get a little bit of a better draft pick. It worked out for them.
Jason Moore
Drake May finished the job last night. MVP votes.
Mike Wright
Heading that direction, man, you need to thank Todd Monkin.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
I'm watching this game. Halfway through you're like, what happens to Drake Mays MVP votes if you lose to Tyler Huntley as you should have? What like can you possibly give that man an mvp?
Andy Holloway
It's funny too because I saw a lot of the next highest scorer, Caleb Williams. Both Drake May and Caleb Williams did a lot of their damage really late in that game. Both of those teams were like should have lost right. To the other team's backup quarterback. Yeah. Malik Willis. Like that game was over. They needed an onside kick recovery.
Mike Wright
How many have even converted this year?
Jason Moore
I think it's like the third one or something.
Andy Holloway
So yeah, both of those were pretty crazy. Where they should have lost to backup quarterbacks but they both came back in crazy fashion.
Jason Moore
Well, here was. Oh my gosh. I mean Ashton Genti was the number one.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Sorry everybody.
Jason Moore
On the week. Number one.
Mike Wright
Oh my goodness.
Jason Moore
Against Houston 24 for 128 and one one for 60 and one through the air.
Mike Wright
I don't.
Jason Moore
Yeah. You were cringing when this happened.
Mike Wright
That's. Yeah, I apologize. I fall on that sword. I would. If I had Ashton Genti I would.
Jason Moore
Have never previous three weeks against tough opponents as well. 9, 4 and 6.
Andy Holloway
Andy.
Mike Wright
We were going through the scenario of Christian McCaffrey like because I The league where we're facing off. I have McCaffrey and I needed like 14 points and I'm like, what, dude, that game's not over yet. There's, you know. And you said Christian McCaffrey has not hit that threshold once. It was against Houston. Christian McCaffrey, single digits, who is scoring a bajillion points every week against Houston. Even he couldn't get it done. And then Ashton Genti goes out and has goodness.
Jason Moore
I think some of our starts at decisions during the week were we did bring up. You know, sometimes you're just choosing talent versus like if you're sitting there going Genti and Chris Rodriguez, you're going to sometimes make the call that just who can. Who's got the special stuff?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I just wasn't. I didn't believe that Ash and Genti had the special stuff to get it done this week.
Jason Moore
Chase Brown, three touchdowns. Now the RB13 on the year. Jason kind of shook his head because he felt fresh again.
Andy Holloway
It did. It did. It was not fun playing. I thought I was playing the. You got Browned Burrow Chase Stack.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Which I was.
Mike Wright
And then Samaj P. Ryan had a rushing touchdown.
Andy Holloway
But yeah, I know what. But it was really not the Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow Stack. I was playing. It was the Chase Brown, Joe Burrow Stack with the multi touchdowns as you.
Mike Wright
Know, the very famous quarterback running back Stack.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Oh, cool. Jalen Warren, 14 for 143.
Andy Holloway
And our wounds from Mike Andy, they feel fresh. I think, I do think that every single. Every single person out there who played fantasy football this weekend and lost, I have to believe they all played against Mike. Like that is how. That's how it feels. Because everyone around here who was in anything.
Jason Moore
Yeah, we're all dead because of one man.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's like let's all unite and.
Jason Moore
We like him sort of.
Andy Holloway
And so I don't know what to root for next week.
Jason Moore
Happy but not this happy.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, this. I mean this. This is too much, man.
Jason Moore
Is there a depressant that we could give him? Because I know there's antidepressants.
Mike Wright
I'm gonna need some anxiety medicine.
Jason Moore
You're gonna need a prescription for a depressant. That's all I'm saying. You are cooking, dude. You're fine.
Andy Holloway
Last week he slacked. I only want half of them people. Everyone was talking and commiserating about, you know, this was some tough football this last night. And Mike said in Slack, like he lost two years of his life last night or something. And I was from the Weekend. Okay.
Mike Wright
From the.
Andy Holloway
I was like. From having everything go well, yes, you poor thing.
Mike Wright
But here's the thing.
Andy Holloway
I won everything.
Mike Wright
No, no, no, no, no. During the process of another tough weekend, winning everything.
Andy Holloway
There was. There was a few moments of drama before I won.
Mike Wright
I did win. But Andy can attest when you left, because I had thoroughly defeated you and I'd moved on to the other matchup. I was. I was unwell for the afternoon games.
Andy Holloway
Well, I'm happy to hear it.
Jason Moore
But my yacht sank.
Andy Holloway
I had to buy a new yacht.
Jason Moore
Meh.
Andy Holloway
My new one's way bigger.
Mike Wright
It's almost too big.
Andy Holloway
My yacht's so big, I can't get it out to sea.
Mike Wright
It takes 10 minutes to walk around the whole thing.
Andy Holloway
You know how much crew I have to have just to. To run my yacht? I like this. I like the.
Jason Moore
That's.
Andy Holloway
That's.
Jason Moore
Mike.
Andy Holloway
This is how we have to deal with.
Jason Moore
Let us have it.
Mike Wright
But I'm not doing that. I said one sentence that it was stressful.
Andy Holloway
When you're the. On the losing side, anything. When you and the winners are complaining.
Jason Moore
The odds of you being in as many title games is.
Andy Holloway
You're in almost impossible.
Jason Moore
Oh, my gosh.
Andy Holloway
You're in them all.
Jason Moore
You definitely sacrificed a goat or something.
Andy Holloway
That sheep had no spots.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
Thank you. My goodness.
Andy Holloway
I like that sheep.
Mike Wright
The one I had to kill.
Andy Holloway
Poor thing.
Mike Wright
I'm sorry, baby.
Jason Moore
Oh, my gosh.
Andy Holloway
All right, all right. Let's talk about more guys. My cat, Bijon Robinson.
Jason Moore
He did bench Kenneth Walker in a matchup that he already had won.
Andy Holloway
Oh. Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
So no, he could have had more points.
Mike Wright
I did bench Jalen Warren against Jason, too.
Andy Holloway
Did you Really?
Mike Wright
I played DK. No, you.
Andy Holloway
You could have scored 200. Scored over 200.
Mike Wright
I could have.
Andy Holloway
Goodness gracious. That lamb was awesome.
Jason Moore
Oh, man.
Mike Wright
He was very plump.
Jason Moore
Derek Henry, also Mike's guy in the studs here. 18 for 1, 28 and 2.
Mike Wright
Hey, James Cook is in here. I had to play against that.
Jason Moore
You know, RJ Harvey put up a big performance. Had a big touchdown. And thank goodness for Papa Josh and his team because they are still on the cusp of losing. But RJ Harvey might have saved the day. Jameer Gibbs.
Andy Holloway
This is weird, man.
Jason Moore
He had seven carries for two yards. Mike was playing against him, of course.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So Jameer Gibbs, really a bad performance. But also he ended up with two touchdown or with the 66 yard.
Mike Wright
The 13 targets, 10 for 66.
Andy Holloway
He was a wide receiver.
Jason Moore
A lot of those targets were the prototypical we're losing. Check down, gain a couple yards. Ends up with the touchdown in the last couple minutes. Puka Nakua had the monster week. Chris Olave number two on the week.
Mike Wright
I had to play against him.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah, he has been look since Tyler Schuck came on four and three.
Jason Moore
Tyler Shuck, Is that who you're talking about?
Andy Holloway
Should be 5 and 2 Tyler Shuck.
Jason Moore
All other rookie 7 and 33 Tyler Schuck.
Mike Wright
I like what I see.
Andy Holloway
Six games now Chris Olave has played with Tyler Schuck. His 17 game pace, 164 targets, 104 receptions, 1300 yards and 14 touchdowns. I mean it's, it's. He is. This is like Chris Olave has always been one of my favorite wide receivers as far as talent. Like I just think he's so good he hasn't had that quarterback. Maybe Shuck is the dude that can get him. Get him the ball.
Jason Moore
Did you get to watch the Chris Olave comments and press conference after all?
Andy Holloway
I did not.
Jason Moore
Unbelievable. Great. Listen, you should all go watch. Humanizes all the stuff that look, we, we've been here always through the fantasy lens and your start sit decisions, all the concussions. But he talked, he said, you know, part of one of the quotes from the press conference. I'm sitting here this off season at 24 contemplating retirement.
Andy Holloway
Oh wow.
Jason Moore
Had to talk to his family, had to talk to everybody. Like and then you go through training camp and then you go through all that but you don't know what it's like to play in a real game again is what he said. You know, it's like you have to go out there and you have the nerves of those first handful of games this year for him after deciding to finally come back and play like he could have retired. He had so many concussions.
Andy Holloway
I hope he made the right decision in the, in the fact that I hope it goes well for the rest of his career. And I will say that I see his adjustments, his Tyler Locketing more and more which is so good like for.
Jason Moore
Him specifically which for those that don't know, like Tyler Lockett would catch the ball and if he knew he was going to get tackled, he would go down early.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, there was a play this last week. He got open in space in his own. It was fantastic. Caught the ball and there were. He was like in a triangle of three defenders and those defenders were. This ball was already 20 yards down the field. So he had made a great play. Got a first down and these defenders were going to close in on him. But he easily could have got three or four more yards. You know, if he just grabs it and just goes and gets tackled and, and he just laid down right in between those three. The right move to make like genuinely just get up. You, you had a great play. Get up and keep playing football for a career.
Jason Moore
It's funny.
Mike Wright
We also love the dogs.
Andy Holloway
We love the scout. I think it depends on the human and so not with Tyler already been beaten up. Yeah, like so Tyler Lockett is a way undersized guy who played a long career because of how he played. If you're DK Metcalf, if DK Metcalf were to do that and sit down like you're bigger and stronger than these cornerbacks. So it just depends on Chris Olave.
Mike Wright
In seven games played with Tyler Schuck as the starting quarterback, his 17 game pace would be 97 receptions, 1300 yards and 12 touchdowns. Yeah, he had and seven games. I mean like it's fun to play the, the extrapolate game. Seven games is not a tiny sample.
Jason Moore
In his first 39 career games he only had 10 total touchdowns. He's had eight in his last 15 weeks. He's the wide receiver, six on the season with some hope and optimism around the quarterback. Yeah, I mean Tyler schuck had a 300 yard game. Parker Washington dominated 6 for 145 and one seemed like he was always open making you know the punt return plays after the catch. You know that's, that's his special skill. He's had multiple punt returns this year. But an open field can stop on a dime. I mean he was.
Andy Holloway
I can't imagine many people played Parker Washington.
Jason Moore
No they didn't but they did play like it's just an interesting thing to me. They're winning by utilizing all of their weapons. Regardless of what we think about them, whether It's Brian Thomas Jr. Like that's the real like long term. I don't understand a world where Brian Thomas Jr. Ever reaches his former view in Jacksonville. It just doesn't make sense to me. You have Travis Hunter, you have just paid Jacoby. You have Brenton Strange healthy like when, when he went nuclear last year. It wasn't all. It wasn't Trevor Lawrence and there was no one left.
Mike Wright
Well it was, it was the almond raw saying Brown and I when I going through the analysis of watching of Brian Thomas, you know, reviewing everything, it's like I don't want to make the Amon ra mistake of a guy broke out. Yes. The other targets were gone. So that, that feeds into the narrative. But he was so dominant like Amon Ra was that rookie year. And people weren't sure whether or not to buy in. And if you didn't, you missed out. You missed out on Amon Ra. And it was like, I don't want to miss that. And it seems wrong now.
Jason Moore
I think he'll be traded. I don't, I don't see him as a future part of this team because I think he wants to be something this team won't let him be. I think when you have Travis Hunter back and you have Parker, Washington and Strange and Jacoby, he will never like you. If he's got any locker room issues, like sometimes we're inferred. I feel like they would just move him. Yeah, he'll get a high price.
Mike Wright
That'll. That'll be the thing. Because it's like. But also he's on a team that's. The Jaguars could win the Super Bowl. I am fully convinced though that this is a legit team, that defense is real. And things have changed for Trevor Lawrence. So it, I mean maybe, maybe the winning will be perfectly fine for Brian Thomas. But I mean for, for the Jags to give him up, they would have to get so much because he's a great player on and they have him very, very cheap.
Andy Holloway
If they win a playoff game, which is totally realistic and in the cards if they win a playoff game, I think they bring the whole team back. Everyone's feeling great. They want to go further and further.
Mike Wright
It comes down, does Brian Thomas then go diva wide receiver which I don't know that we've seen. He would do that yet. Like I don't know if there's any incidents. I don't remember.
Jason Moore
JSN 13 targets 8 for 96 to.
Mike Wright
Thursday night in the second half.
Jason Moore
D.J. moore with the insanity on Saturday night.
Mike Wright
Dude, that was old.
Jason Moore
Five for 97 and one.
Mike Wright
That touchdown was ridiculous. And the majority of his production.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean we.
Mike Wright
It was like a 40 year touchdown.
Andy Holloway
We started him everywhere. He was like pretty much a must start with the other inactives there. And it felt bad until it felt good. Until all of a sudden it was like what a great game.
Jason Moore
Do you remember that was a near mirror identical touchdown to the one he had in Carolina where he took his helmet off.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Force the extra point to be further away that they missed and then they lost in overtime. Fond diggs. Okay. Nine for 138J one week early.
Andy Holloway
Well, I mean it's that contract. He needs that, that yards that that, those, those receptions and that schmoney.
Jason Moore
And didn't. Didn't Booty get hurt again?
Mike Wright
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Moore
I mean they fly on the weirdest.
Mike Wright
On the most insane non past interference.
Andy Holloway
Nothing to see here. He just tackled them before the ball was there.
Jason Moore
Big weeks for Zay Flowers, Cortland Sutton, Romeo Dobbs with the big touchdown from the backup and teteromilling baby. 10 targets 6 or 7 and 1. We'll take a break and I guess we'll commiserate on some of these. Oh, no, we still have.
Mike Wright
We got tight ends.
Jason Moore
All right, let's do that. First Harold Fannin, 17 and a half loved him this week. Kyle Pitts, great week. 15.2 Back into the end zone. And then Juwan Johnson. I'll throw him out there too. Johnson, just a lot of volume. Nine targets, eight for 89 and they.
Mike Wright
Play Tennessee next week. If Devon Vale remains out for the Saints, then Johnson is going to be very interesting for volume.
Jason Moore
Elijah Higgins of the Arizona Cardinals, seven for 91.
Mike Wright
I'm allowed to be upset about Trey McBride, right?
Andy Holloway
Yes, absolutely.
Jason Moore
Trey McBride not pictured here. Sorry. That's Elijah Higgins. Spot in the studs.
Mike Wright
That was upsetting. So weird to see Elijah Higgins get 7 for 91. It's Elijah Higgins. That has to be his career high.
Jason Moore
You know, he looked. He looked kind of good. Yeah. In the open field, like an athlete. I just thought it was kind of wild.
Andy Holloway
Cincinnati next week for the tight end position for the Cardinals. If you got through a Trey McBride, which you might not have, you're going to be pretty happy.
Jason Moore
Mike is going to win so many titles, so many championships, or he won't be here next week. Because I guess with great.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, you could lose them.
Jason Moore
With great opportunity comes great opportunity to be Jim Kelly.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Jason Moore
So you could do that right now. We'll take a break.
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Andy Holloway
Pooped in his big boy pants.
Jason Moore
One good thing that happened to me this week was I'm not the shame anymore.
Mike Wright
Yeah, you did it.
Jason Moore
I broke a streak of. What was it? Six to eight years is what it felt like. That was getting Christmas presented on the show.
Andy Holloway
That was your sentence. Yeah. Mike and I are going to have to do a Monday Night Football tiebreaker.
Jason Moore
Yeah. So I don't. And I don't care who wins. Not even a little bit. Duds. Josh Allen Jackson Dart.
Mike Wright
The Allen one. I mean, that is just crushing.
Jason Moore
12 for 19, 130, no touchdowns, and.
Mike Wright
Then the Jackson dart. I'm not sure what the plan was.
Jason Moore
For the dude that was. He passed for 33 yards. Dude.
Mike Wright
He only threw the ball 13 times. I mean, they. I can't remember how many runs.
Andy Holloway
The first 16.
Mike Wright
Was it 16?
Andy Holloway
The first 16, there was technically one. That was a play call that he scrambled on, but it was. The first 16 plays were all rushing attempts. It was the weirdest thing. And. And this is a player who obviously the matchup wasn't great against Minnesota, you could see that coming. But, I mean, you look at his starts. 20 points, 15 points. 23, 28, 20, 27, 26, 13, 22, 0. Yeah, he scored zero points. I mean, just.
Mike Wright
This was a. Kafka is auditioning for the job. And that was weird. It's really, really weird to me that you, with your. Your franchise. Your franchise qb, you're trying to get him reps. You're like, you need them to see scenarios. And then you go out and you run 16 times in a row in a game. Like, it doesn't matter if you win.
Jason Moore
You know that they're the number one pick. Game is next week.
Mike Wright
Yes. Yeah.
Jason Moore
The Raiders and Giants the Toilet bowl up in Alaska. And whoever loses that game gets the number one pick.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. Go Raiders, man.
Jason Moore
Jacoby Brissette, hugely disappointing against Atlanta. Had Marvin Harrison back. Couldn't do it.
Andy Holloway
Was that the problem?
Mike Wright
Yeah, probably.
Jason Moore
Also not throwing to Trey McBride was a problem.
Mike Wright
Yeah, also.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, you. Jacoby reset, I think was a. I mean, very confident play this week against the.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he was. For me, I mean, that high over, under, everything looked good. And in the beginning of the game, it was like, okay, this is exactly what we're kind of expecting and hoping for here. Very disappointing this one was. I mean, the fact that he did what he did against Houston last week to pump fake us into the excitement of at home against Atlanta. And then this next week against Cincinnati, if you still have him. Probably a good play, but very disappointing. At least. At least The Cardinals lost.
Jason Moore
Quarterback 27. Quarterback 18. Quarterback 19. Quarterback 14. Quarterback 18. That's Baker Mayfield.
Andy Holloway
I don't know that he's got big boy pants anymore. People haven't been starting him for a while.
Jason Moore
He's averaged 155 passing yards since week 12. So you're talking. This was a former.
Andy Holloway
Like he was mvp.
Jason Moore
Six weeks in.
Andy Holloway
Mvp camera mvp chance at his home stadium that Taz thought were for him, and then all of a sudden complete nutter collapse. This is where I'm waiting for whatever surgery he gets in the offseason.
Mike Wright
Hold on, hold on.
Jason Moore
It's not good.
Mike Wright
Josh wrote in Flashlight Mayfield.
Jason Moore
I think it's a Laser Mayfield thing. And he thinks the. I think he thinks the inverse of a laser would be a flashlight. Let's go ahead and zoom in on that.
Andy Holloway
What now? Baker sounds like laser. It's a weaker Baker does not sound like flashlight.
Jason Moore
Flash. No, it doesn't. So we're always happy to throw in your good stuff.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
What did you think of that one, Al? It was pretty bad. Dub airs. Thank you. Now, Taser Mayfield would have worked.
Mike Wright
Even that sounds cool.
Jason Moore
Yeah, but a Taser's like a. Like a dumbed down version of something.
Andy Holloway
Like a laser is cooler than a Taser. Yeah, a Taser. Taser Mayfield would be okay. But I kind of see what Mike's saying. It feels like he still could do.
Jason Moore
Some damage in Star Trek though, don't they? They go from phaser. They go from. No, I know.
Andy Holloway
Phaser Mayfield.
Jason Moore
They go from kill. So like stun. That's what Taser is. It's like stun mode. That's all I'm saying.
Mike Wright
I just.
Jason Moore
At least it rhymes.
Alienware Advertiser
I don't.
Mike Wright
The leap of a laser to a flashlight.
Jason Moore
We don't need to.
Mike Wright
Okay.
Jason Moore
We don't need to.
Mike Wright
Moving on.
Jason Moore
Flashlights are really big.
Mike Wright
During his era, a Mecca Ibuka had one case.
Andy Holloway
He was more candlelight.
Jason Moore
Oh, Candlelight Mayfield.
Andy Holloway
That's probably. Josh is very excited about that. That just rolls off the tongue. Candlelight Mayfield. I see how we got there.
Jason Moore
What were you talking about? I said.
Mike Wright
I said first round wide receiver. A Mecca Buka. First half superstar had one catch.
Jason Moore
Well, Mike Evans had how many yards? 20 something.
Andy Holloway
Not enough. He got my price picks.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
I mean, five for 31.
Jason Moore
Old oil lamp Mayfield.
Mike Wright
Nice.
Jason Moore
That's a good one, Al.
Mike Wright
Oh, my gosh.
Jason Moore
Running back duds. Jason was on pins and needles all week for Josh Jacobs to be active. He was active on the goal line.
Andy Holloway
Did you hear the comments about whether he was injured or benched?
Jason Moore
I am the one that shared those.
Andy Holloway
So.
Mike Wright
So you did.
Jason Moore
So I did. Yes.
Andy Holloway
I was unaware that you were the one that shared those. But he wasn't.
Jason Moore
Not injured.
Andy Holloway
He was not injured. But what was crazy about that when I. When I was listening to the comments, it was like he had no say. Lafleur had no say. The head coach and didn't know. And he's like, that was between. That was between Jacobs and the oc, I imagine. I don't remember who he was naming.
Jason Moore
I think you had some say more than you knew.
Mike Wright
The head coach, the man in charge.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it was really weird.
Mike Wright
Is saying, there was nothing I could have done.
Jason Moore
The Henry and Jacobs utilization. If Jacobs doesn't hurt and then you don't put him back out there on the field. I mean, he said he thought Emmanuel Wilson was playing well, but he also.
Andy Holloway
Said he thought Jacobs was running well.
Jason Moore
Well, he fumbled on the goal line and didn't really see the field anymore and ended up in single digits.
Andy Holloway
And you lost the game that you were up.
Mike Wright
Okay, head coaches, you don't get to say these things. You're in charge. You do not get to say, I don't. It's the old Andy Reid. You're like, why didn't Jamal Charles touch the ball more? He's like, oh, man, I'm going to have to go look at the tape. I don't know. You don't get to say that crap.
Andy Holloway
I mean, the truth is, there's.
Mike Wright
You're in charge.
Andy Holloway
There's personnel packages, and you're not the one telling each. You know, like the head coach isn't necessarily saying who's going out there for each play, whether that's the offensive coordinator or even the running backs coach. I don't know who makes those decisions. You can override it.
Jason Moore
You can be on the headset, say, I want Jacobs out there. Yeah, that's all you got to do.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Ian Rappaport said that. Josh. This is a news update. Josh Johnson seems like he will likely be starting for the Commanders against the Cowboys.
Mike Wright
Josh Johnson, Ultimate Stream.
Jason Moore
This is actually really bad news.
Mike Wright
Oh, for.
Jason Moore
Really bad news for the game for CD, Dak & Pickens, because the competitive balance of the game. Mariota was able to do stuff this.
Mike Wright
Year. I mean this.
Jason Moore
Is. I don't like that when I. You know it's similar to what you saw.
Mike Wright
From. Well, I mean that's, that's the counterpoint is Joe Burrow put up four touchdowns. The. If you get to the fourth quarter and you are up by that many points it's because your team has done massive damage and you're maybe it's like Javante gets three rushing touchdowns. That would be horrific if you're in on the passing attack. But it. It doesn't stop me from playing anyone in the.
Andy Holloway
Cowboys. Mike, you have to. You have to get into the listener league championship. I know it's.
Mike Wright
Close. I'm really.
Andy Holloway
Trying. You need. You need.
Mike Wright
Kittle. I need a big game from Johnny.
Andy Holloway
Taylor. A big game from Johnny Taylor. Well we can. We can root for that together because I'm. I'm. That's the one league I'm in. I made it to the championship in the listener league. My team has no chance to win next week. I was rolling with Marcus Mariota after losing Daniel. So now I will be playing Josh Jake. Josh Johnson. I can afford.
Mike Wright
Him. Kyle has remind us reminded us the Christmas day quarterbacks because there's three games on Christmas if you were unaware. It seems we will see Josh Johnson probably Max Bros. Is it Brosmer? Are we going with.
Jason Moore
Brosmer?
Mike Wright
Brosmer.
Andy Holloway
Brosmer.
Mike Wright
Yes. Okay. And then Chris Ola.
Andy Holloway
Dokun. Great. I gave.
Mike Wright
That. I gave him my best.
Andy Holloway
Shot. What a Christmas treat we have in.
Jason Moore
Store. Yeah, the. It's crazy. It's crazy. By the way, the great Michael Carter Amari Dumarcado debate turned into six points versus.
Andy Holloway
Three. But who.
Jason Moore
Won? Michael Carter. Yeah, Mike won of course. Bucky Irving 19 for 71. Kind of disappointing. No targets. Breeze Hall, DeAndre Swift, Rico Dallo, Chuba. Those guys let you down. And then Monty did almost.
Mike Wright
Nothing. David Montgomery because we're back into a hellish split with when if Rico and Chuba are going to be getting it's nine carries for Rico, six for Chuba. No one can get in the flow. You at least had the six targets for Rico Dowdle but it was against Tampa Bay. That was a big time.
Jason Moore
Bummer. And I don't know if we mentioned him. We probably could have Amari. And Hampton was definitely a stud this week. Got into the end zone. Kamani Vidal only had five total carries second game removed from the injury. It's nice to see what the plans are for him even going beyond into next year like it's going to be the Marion Hampton.
Mike Wright
Show. Yeah. And he's. He's looked way better than he did earlier in the.
Jason Moore
Year. Yeah, I don't, I don't have his final stat line in front of me, but he had a, he had a pretty good game and he looked the part. So. Other.
Mike Wright
Duds. Hampton, real quick, just for you, Andy. 16 for 85 on the ground, only 1 for 10 through the air. We'd like that to get bumped.
Jason Moore
Up. Scored.
Mike Wright
Right? He did, yeah. Running. Currently the running back, 15 on the.
Jason Moore
Week. Getting into the duds at the wide receiver position where there's some names that stood out to you. I mean, Drake.
Andy Holloway
London. Drake London was very disappointing. And you, you would say, oh, well, this is first game back and maybe, you know, they were easing him in. He had eight targets. He just didn't do much with it with Kirk cousins there. Three for 27, very disappointing. And then Amon Ra is the best wide receiver to have the worst game because he's automatic. He's guaranteed. He's, you know, you, you just assume I'm getting 15 points from him as kind of a baseline and 4 for 54 at the end of that game. I think honestly, Pittsburgh needs a little bit of credit and love, especially from me because I haven't been doing that. But when we talk about all these teams getting in the playoffs, I feel like the one that is just dismissed, dismissed outright is the. Is the Steelers, because old man Aaron Rodgers and they're just kind of this treading water above 500 team. But they've. They've done some good work. I mean, they're. They lost J.J. watt and they shut down the Lions. I mean, for most of the.
Mike Wright
Game they lost them because they also saw your.
Andy Holloway
Baby. Oh, T.J.
Mike Wright
Watt. Yeah. Gotcha. You got the fan of the perfection of fantasy football that Almond Ross, St. Brown and Jameson Williams both had. Like, Jamo was fine. He's five for 70. But I'm saying Jared Goff had a great game. Those two guys did not. Trevor Lawrence had a great game and yet Brian Thomas Jr. And Jacobi Myers did not. Did.
Jason Moore
Not. Yeah, that's. That's called the old knife.
Mike Wright
Twist.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Metcalf was just 4 for.
Mike Wright
42.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Had a touchdown called back in this one. We'll see what happens with all the discipline stuff. He. He's come out and kind of said what he said. Yeah, he said what the fan.
Mike Wright
Said. Said words you do not.
Jason Moore
Say. And then Nico Collins, 4 for 59 was double covered all game long. The Mecca Abuka, 1 for.
Andy Holloway
40. At least he got a 40 yard.
Jason Moore
Bomb.
Mike Wright
Dude. The downfall of a Buca is it's impossible. It's. How do you start like that and then we get here. I don't. We.
Andy Holloway
Were. He was like the best wide receiver in the NFL for the first half and is.
Jason Moore
Irrelevant. Well, when you're averaging 155 passing yards, you basically cut in half the production of Baker Mayfield that he had in the first half of the year and you then Split it. Jalen McMillan is on the field a lot. There were a lot of plays I was watching where Abuka was off the field and Jalen McMillan was on the field because of personnel patches. And it seems like first read, second read is still Evans and Godwin, whether that's good or bad. Trey McBride, we talked about.
Andy Holloway
It.
Jason Moore
Bummer. Jake Ferguson keeps not getting it done around a Gadsden. Just one catch for seven.
Andy Holloway
Yards. That was.
Jason Moore
Disappointing. Where did that sound come.
Andy Holloway
From? My.
Jason Moore
Mouth. Okay. I thought it might have been your something else. Colson Loveland, just three for 30.
Mike Wright
On a. Yeah, that was a Mr.
Jason Moore
Loveland. Nothing from the Bears because there was nothing from Josh Allen, nothing from Andrews and likely again Colby Parkinson or as you called him, Farkinson. And then Kelsey did nothing. Darren Waller, three for.
Mike Wright
40. The Kelsey one. You know, when you were talking about, hey, incentives, Kelsey, 1,000 yards was within reach for Travis Kelsey. And if you haven't heard Travis Kelsey talking lately about.
Andy Holloway
The. About the Chiefs.
Mike Wright
It'S. He was talking about Patrick Mahomes returning from injuries. Like, yeah, the Chiefs will get Patrick Mahomes.
Andy Holloway
Back. Not.
Mike Wright
We. No. And he is talking very much as a man who will be.
Jason Moore
Done.
Mike Wright
He. I mean, I think he was pretty close to retiring last year, but they was like, hey, we were so close. We got to run it back. And then coming into this week, he had, you know, just under 800 yards. Three games to get to a thousand. I thought maybe they would try to force feed Travis Kelsey. And that was not the case as he had six.
Andy Holloway
Yards. Another dud. I mean, we. Audrey estimate. I know we mentioned him a little bit, but one thing that, that reminded me of talking about Kelsey, the fact that he's about to retire, you know, potentially the emotional side. The man, Taysom Hill was someone that on the course of the season, you forgot he existed. He had done nothing. He was still.
Mike Wright
There. Literally.
Andy Holloway
Nothing. Yeah, I mean, he was. He was basically not really a part of this team. And we just forgot like that was his potential final home game for the Saints. And they talked a lot about that after the game, and it was like a just. It was a big whiff and a miss. Because in the running game, it was like, oh, Yeah. I mean, 12 carries for Taysom Hill, which we're looking at, that whole estimate, versus Evan Hall. That's. That's just a complete.
Mike Wright
Oversight. So Taysom Hill, what was the number, Kyle? You probably saw it of like, he's now the first player to have a thousand. Thousand receiving, thousand rushing, and a thousand passing.
Andy Holloway
Yep. In the history of the.
Jason Moore
NFL. He threw one of the two touchdowns, by the.
Mike Wright
Way. Yes. To.
Jason Moore
Olave. Olave. Because if Shuck had thrown it, it would have hurt Mike in one of his.
Andy Holloway
Leagues.
Mike Wright
Right. So it's like listener.
Jason Moore
League.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Oh, good, good.
Jason Moore
Good. Listener league. So he's like, hey, you know.
Andy Holloway
What? I need you in there. We got.
Jason Moore
It. We got to win this touchdown. And then they listen to Mike. That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's nose. Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's, official partner of the NFL. We would keep going, but we. We can't. Mike has to get back to his yacht repairs, which are a.
Mike Wright
Burden. A.
Jason Moore
Brutal. Because he has to tell those guys what to.
Andy Holloway
Do. I tell them what to do on my.
Jason Moore
Yard. Oh, my.
Mike Wright
Goodness. You know how much money I would have to spend at our draft.
Andy Holloway
Jason? So you need Jonathan Taylor to outscore George Kittle by.
Mike Wright
About. By a.
Jason Moore
Lot.
Andy Holloway
11. By 11. All.
Jason Moore
Right. Oh, my gosh, I hope you.
Mike Wright
Lose. I hope.
Andy Holloway
You. And we need George Kittle to score fewer than 10 in Dino.
Jason Moore
Junior. Do you have any matchups still going out? Yeah, I do. You do? What.
Andy Holloway
Ones? It's going to be me and Mike facing off in the dyno.
Jason Moore
Championship. Oh, I just meant this week. You don't have anything you're waiting for on Monday Night Football? No, sir. Just waiting to get out of that Bears. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Okay. Also, the Bears still.
Mike Wright
Suck. Go back.
Andy Holloway
Up. Oh, man, oh.
Jason Moore
Man. That feels like he has to do it for another show or.
Mike Wright
Something. All.
Andy Holloway
Right. Got the prison.
Jason Moore
Break. All right, we are done. We'll be back tomorrow. Good luck.
Andy Holloway
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Episode: Week 16 Studs & Duds + Mike’s Blood Sacrifices
Date: December 22, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
This lively and insightful episode of the Fantasy Footballers revolves around the emotional roller coaster of the Week 16 semifinals in fantasy football. The hosts dissect the week's biggest fantasy studs and duds, relive personal heartbreaks and triumphs from their own leagues, and offer nuanced analysis on player performances, coaching decisions, and developing NFL storylines. As always, humor, camaraderie, and a bit of lamentation abound—particularly at Mike's extraordinary fortune (and possible blood sacrifices) as he advances to multiple championship games.
This episode is a blend of top-tier fantasy football analysis, real-life league drama, and comedic camaraderie, providing catharsis for frustrated managers and hope for those still alive. The Fantasy Footballers remind listeners that, sometimes, all the right moves still lead to heartbreak and invite everyone to stay tuned for the season’s conclusion and future in-depth offseason content.
For deeper actionable advice, keep following The Fantasy Footballers—who, as always, are “here all year round” to keep you entertained, informed, and ready to win your league.
Skip the pain and commiseration—listen in for the laughs, the banter, and the genuinely helpful perspective heading into championship week!