Week 17 Championship Matchups + Wheel of Shame! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/26

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast

Week 17 Championship Matchups + Wheel of Shame!

Date: December 26, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Episode Overview

In this championship week episode, Andy, Jason, and Mike guide listeners through the critical Week 17 matchups, sharing fantasy insights, injury updates, and their usual humor. The trio navigates the fallout from holiday games, last-minute lineup pivots, and the unique stress of finals week in fantasy football. Plus, the infamous "Wheel of Shame" segment provides an extra dose of levity.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Holiday Game Chaos & Injuries

• Chris Rodriguez Debacle (01:37–03:46): Jason laments the ill-timed absence of Chris Rodriguez, whose last-minute illness on Christmas morning left many unable to pivot.

  “I have like tens and tens of people that just didn’t get to make the change because of Christmas morning...This was bad news.” – Jason (02:21)

• Week 16 Fantasy Carnage (03:59–08:19):

  • Christmas games stunned fantasy managers: George Kittle and CeeDee Lamb underwhelmed, Dak threw for 300+ but missed Lamb twice for easy touchdowns, and Javonte Williams got knocked out early.
  • Unexpected performances: Malik Davis outshined expectations replacing Javonte, while Max Brosmer’s quarterback win with more sacks taken than yards gained sparked plenty of jokes.

• Injury Reports & News (11:48–15:38):

  • Key updates: Lamar Jackson (doubtful), Jordan Love (questionable), Christian Watson (illness), Josh Jacobs (active), George Kittle (non-participant), A.J. Brown (getting wisdom teeth out).
  • Entertaining wisdom teeth anecdotes among the crew (14:05–15:06).

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2. Championship Week Matchups Breakdown

Each matchup gets a fantasy-focused analysis, highlighting start/sit decisions, injury situations, and contrarian takes.

Cincinnati Bengals @ Arizona Cardinals (16:19–20:57)

• CIN Offense:

  • “I don’t really understand how Cincinnati doesn’t score 6,000 points in this game.” – Jason (17:09)
  • All main Bengals (Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Brown) are strong starts.
  • Mike predicts a big Jamar Chase week.

• ARI Receivers:

  • Michael Wilson a solid start; Marvin Harrison limited by injury, more “okay-ish” than a must-start.

Pittsburgh Steelers @ Cleveland Browns (21:16–23:54)

• Low Over/Under Alert: At just 34.5, one of the lowest all year.
• PIT RBs:
  • Kenneth Gainwell has PPR upside, but beware of playing time tied to Ravens’ Saturday game outcome.
• Few trustworthy options; “not a lot of fantasy relevant players in this game” – Jason (23:25).

New Orleans Shucks @ Tennessee Titans (24:58–30:02)

• Tyler Shuck’s Fantasy Relevance:
  • “It is amazing thinking back two months ago to the idea of starting Tyler Shuck in fantasy, much less caring about Tyler Shuck at all.” – Jason (25:49)
• Saints’ TEs Dilemma:
  • Juwan Johnson ("clear No. 2 target") vs. Taysom Hill (multi-role TD upside) – lively debate on which is the better waiver option (28:44–30:19).
  • Chris Olave, strong WR play.

Jacksonville Jaguars @ Indianapolis Colts (30:55–38:52)

• JAX Notes: Trevor Lawrence, Travis Etienne, Jacoby Myers, Brian Thomas Jr., and Parker Washington discussed in depth.
• IND WRs: Michael Pittman in a rut; Downs is “the safest play” (37:37).
• Tyler Warren: Jason’s start of the week at TE, but not unanimous confidence from co-hosts.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers @ Miami Dolphins (38:57–42:24)

• TAM Offense Struggles:
  • Bucky Irving’s volume hurt by Sean Tucker at the GL.
  • “Sean Tucker is seemingly the goal line back…” – Andy (40:49)
• Dolphins RBs (Achan) are starts by default.

New England Patriots @ New York Jets (43:02–47:25)

• Drake May MVP Watch:
  • His ceiling dimmed by WR injuries (“maybe the ceiling is not...what I was projecting on Wednesday” – Jason 44:33).
• Hunter Henry, Rhamondre Stevenson:
  • Both called strong plays. Diggs and Henry need a few more receptions for big contract incentives.

Other Matchup Rapid-Fires:

• Seahawks vs Panthers: Dowdle splitting reps with Chuba Hubbard, low upside (52:34).
• Giants vs Raiders: Only Genti and Tracy are playable. Entire game “gross.” (57:41)
• Eagles vs Bills: Saquon and James Cook automatic starts; Hurts’ outlook tied to A.J. Brown status (60:35–61:53).
• Bears vs 49ers (SNF): CMC called the fantasy MVP, “one more game, Christian” theme (63:02–64:08).
• Rams vs Falcons (MNF): Stafford, Kyren, Puka top starts if Atlanta can keep pace; Kyle Pitts, London, Bijan intrigue for Falcons (70:42–72:25).

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3. Fantasy Playoff & Dynasty Banter

• Mike & Dynasty Luck: Repeated comedic jabs at Mike’s “voodoo” dominance in Dynasty (04:35–06:01), including a joking “child sacrifice” bit for narrative spice.

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4. Wheel of Shame & Fantasy Face-Off (72:51–77:18)

• Jason and Mike tie for lowest in weekly Prize Picks challenge, leading to a “Wheel of Shame” tiebreaker. Andy ends up donning a Krampus mask.
  • “Krampus. Oh, yeah. I’m gonna eat your children.” – Andy (73:43)
  • Lively Prize Picks picks; Mike ups the ante by taking the “demon” side on the Trey McBride line: “He’ll do whatever he wants.” – Jason (76:58)

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Notable Quotes

• On Injuries and Christmas games:

  “Christmas morning should not be playing football.” – Andy (02:50)

• On the state of the Cardinals’ defense:

  “They have no defense left.” – Andy (16:55)

• On CMC in the Finals:

  “If you drafted Christian McCaffrey, you had a 50% chance of winding up in the championship game.” – Andy (63:13)
  “One more game, Christian. One more game.” – Mike (78:01)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Chris Rodriguez/Christmas Chaos: 01:37–03:46
• Week 16 Recap (Christmas games): 03:59–08:28
• News & Notes: 11:48–15:38
• Bengals/Cardinals Matchup: 16:19–20:57
• Saints/Titans TE Debate: 28:44–30:19
• Jaguars/Colts WR Order: 35:46–36:48
• Seahawks/Panthers RB Split: 52:34–53:51
• Giants/Raiders "Gross Game" Rant: 57:36–58:45
• Eagles/Bills RBs: 60:35–61:53
• Bears/49ers: CMC as Championship Decider: 63:02–64:08
• Rams/Falcons MNF Stakes: 70:42–72:25
• Wheel of Shame & Fantasy Face-Off: 72:51–77:18

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Episode Takeaways

• Championship Week demands flexibility—injuries (especially last-second illnesses) and team motivation levels loom large.
• Trust the matchups but mind the context: Many studs are must-plays, but keep a close eye on injury status and team “nothing to play for” possibilities.
• Don’t chase names over trends: Parker Washington, Juwan Johnson, and Taysom Hill emerged as possible streaming options at thin spots.
• CMC’s legacy looms: He remains the ultimate fantasy difference-maker.
• As always, embrace the chaos and celebrate the fun side—from “child sacrifice” jokes about dynasty luck to shameful mask spins, the Ballers keep the spirit alive even under title-week pressure.

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Final Thoughts

This episode encapsulates the thrilling unpredictability—and camaraderie—of fantasy championship week. It’s both highly strategic and irreverent, offering crucial advice, some catharsis for rough holiday slates, and a few laughs before the final push. Even if you missed the show, you’ll know whom to start, whom to watch at the wire, and why fantasy football is both a science and an art.

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Listen for: The wheel of shame hilarity and the heartfelt “one more game, Christian” refrain as the final week’s drama unfolds!

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome in. Friday, December 26, 2025, the one day that, the one day of five that we don't have football consecutively, but we're here with you. It is championship week. We did not want to miss the opportunity to get you prepped up, you know, with amazing advice like Chris Rodriguez, start of the week that kind of.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, to be fair, to be fair, his. It was great advice. It was great advice again because the matchup was perfect and you called that and Bill, Bill went crazy.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, this is, this is the second time in the season in which on the start of the week episode, Chris Rodriguez is totally fine in playing. And then this time, this was bad news. I mean, I had, I was. When the news broke that he was out with an illness. I mean, I posted that immediately and I have not, not a couple, I have like tens and tens of people that just didn't get to make the change because of Christmas morning. They were opening presents. They were with the family.

[Andy Holloway]

Christmas morning should not be playing football.

[Jason Moore]

And, and so people didn't even get to pivot. And this was not like, oh, you've been limited in practice. This was, he woke up with the sniffles. Yeah, you got sick and you're out.

[Andy Holloway]

Also, also, I almost made this joke like a week ago. I feel like no one ever misses a game due to illness. It's like illness. Oh, they woke up and then they always just, they hydrate up. They get an IV and they go out there and they play and oftentimes they play just fine. And then it's like when I saw that this was an illness as his like, oh, he didn't participate. He's, you know, he's got an illness. I'm like whatever, he'll be fine, he'll be fine. And then it's like, oh no. Okay, tell me.

[Jason Moore]

Hurts.

[Andy Holloway]

Sorry. That's.

[Jason Moore]

Well, look serious. For a guy so upset about never getting any opportunities, he sure does miss a lot of games. He's going to be the starter for.

[Mike Wright]

It's.

[Jason Moore]

That was super upsetting. And both times that he's missed.

[Andy Holloway]

JCM had big weeks and 105 yards. Two touchdowns on only 11 carries.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, one was 72 yards away. That's pretty awesome. So here we are, we've got 10 games to cover. We've got Monday Night Football. The Thursday games are really the Thursday Saturday games we covered on the last show.

[Mike Wright]

The Christmas games were very odd for fantasy football and I think overall pretty devastating. Yeah, like George and CD Lamb, nothing special. 78 yards for George, 46 for CD Lamb.

[Andy Holloway]

Dak deck was good.

[Mike Wright]

Deck 300. Yeah, Dak ended up good but Dak also missed CD Lamb. Two walk in touchdowns. He just missed.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. 19 for 37. He missed, he missed some guys.

[Mike Wright]

And then Javante would have had 10 million points. Starts off just so hot. Gets knocked out.

[Andy Holloway]

Jeremy, the matchup for Dynasty. If you want to know that it's Mike's year which we've been talking about for the last couple of weeks, whatever voodoo, black magic he's using, you go.

[Jason Moore]

Into this blood sacrifice, but go on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh that's right. So you're out of children now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Dude.

[Jason Moore]

Personal.

[Andy Holloway]

Merry Christmas.

[Mike Wright]

I saved so much money yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

He opened their presents.

[Andy Holloway]

In the battle between Owl and Mike in the main Dynasty league, Mike is going in with CD Lamb and George Pickens. He's got the Cowboys receiver stack. And on the other side, total anti correlation, Jeremy has Javante Williams. So it's like oh my gosh. Then early in the game, Javante, touchdown. Terrible for you. You don't want the Cowboys to get up. Then like the next drive that the Cowboys have, the ball is a whatever it was like 90 yard touchdown, 86 yard touchdown, 86 yard touchdown. So it takes away a drive from your two wide receivers. It puts them up in the driver's seat to just run the ball. It is perfection. And then Mike goes, uh huh. Well come here my last child. Yeah. And then next thing you Know, Javante Williams does not come back in the game.

[Jason Moore]

He never came back in. After the touchdown, he was 13 for 54. And after he left, Malik Davis went 24, 103. Who was. Who is a worse player?

[Andy Holloway]

Give that to. I mean, this should have been 30 for 150 and probably two for Javante. But Mike has no more children.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So I also didn't get very many points.

[Jason Moore]

Pickens and Lamb, we're fine. Terry McLaren, 5 for 63. We already talked about the JCM situation then in the Lions game. I mean, Jamir Gates.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's not call it that.

[Jason Moore]

That's not in the Vikings.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Brosmer domination.

[Jason Moore]

9 for 16 for 51 yards. Took 48 yards and sacks, and he won the game. A net 3 yards for Max Brosmer, which was an embarrassment. Jefferson, awful.

[Mike Wright]

They kept showing this man's family.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And it was like he had as many sacks as family members there.

[Mike Wright]

You're like, stop, stop, stop.

[Jason Moore]

They won. I know. They proud. You leave.

[Mike Wright]

You.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, Bros. You leave. You leave.

[Mike Wright]

And when. I mean, like, how do you even talk to your kid after that?

[Andy Holloway]

You're like, how do you say you.

[Mike Wright]

Won.

[Jason Moore]

The game by two scores.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And you know, Amon Ra was fine, but not great.

[Andy Holloway]

Jameson Williams and left at the end with a knee injury, like a couple plays left in the game. So we'll have to get news on that.

[Jason Moore]

That Jameer Gibbs story is one of destroying your season the last two weeks. If he didn't knock you out last week, he knocked you out this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So really everyone in that.

[Jason Moore]

Because there's.

[Mike Wright]

There's no way you were playing Jordan Addison, I mean, maybe super deep leagues. And then you got that one 65 yard carry for a touchdown. Aaron Jones, I guess was okay, but everybody else, I mean, just Jameson Williams 2 for 37, Jefferson 4 for 30.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, now, Jefferson had 58%, 58% of the team's receiving yards.

[Jason Moore]

That's a great number in the Broncos Chiefs game. Broncos, as they always do, barely win against teams with bad quarterbacks who had 66 yards passing. So you had. You had quarterbacks with 51 and 66 yards passing. And honestly, Bo Nicks, terrible. 26 for 38 for 182. There was a point in this game where he had 23 completions for. I mean, the yards per completion was terrible. Sutton dropped two touchdowns. R.J. harvey, he saved you with the late touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Harvey was the only good.

[Jason Moore]

But that's it. I mean, that was the only good play for both teams in that game. So maybe when Jason tweeted he hates Christmas football, I had a little bit to do with also the games being awful.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I want Christmas back but it's okay. It's not going to happen and we move on.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I wish that we talked about this right before the show. I'm fine with football. Christmas or Christmas football. But Christmas football dot com. But I would love it if it was just a game. You know what I mean?

[Andy Holloway]

Christmas night, big game.

[Mike Wright]

I assume Christmas is Friday next year.

[Jason Moore]

It is. So there will be a game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there will be. And it'll probably just be the one. Wasn't it one last year?

[Jason Moore]

I don't remember things beyond two weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Because last year was the first Netflix football and I thought maybe there was two.

[Jason Moore]

I would just say maybe this will be the new Madden curse. Look at the game schedule by Netflix. And those are the.

[Andy Holloway]

You'll figure out those players in your draft.

[Jason Moore]

That's it. That's it. It's. It's our final Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

Foot Clan Friday. I like this name.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I was.

[Andy Holloway]

Weasel.

[Jason Moore]

I was shaking my head because I feel like. I feel like they pick out names just to mess with me.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. Weasel.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

You can use the code ballers to save some money.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Okay. This is a personal request.

[Mike Wright]

I'm gonna need it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh man. It's so true. It sucks.

[Jason Moore]

A real champ doesn't use a coupon.

[Andy Holloway]

Right? Right, Andy. That's right.

[Jason Moore]

He pays double.

[Andy Holloway]

You want that trophy to be worth.

[Jason Moore]

Something, there needs to be a like super champ coupon that doubles the price. Okay. Yeah. Al is how much inventory? I was putting his trophy up there because he wants us to remember that.

[Andy Holloway]

He'S giving it away. I'm just keeping it warm for Mike over here.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

It's all polished up.

[Mike Wright]

Me and Jeremy are in a pretty much a head to head heads up for the Dynasty league.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm coming for that one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You're going to win by a lot, Mike. Yeah, that's true too.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man.

[Jason Moore]

How much?

[Mike Wright]

How much?

[Jason Moore]

There's just no inventory.

[Mike Wright]

Does fancy champs have.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my gosh. The problem in your matchup with with Al that I can't overcome is the unconscionable disparity at quarterback because you get Joe Burrow against the Cardinals and he has to. He has backed into with the Injuries. He has to play Justin Herbert.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes.

[Jason Moore]

Against Houston. Yeah. Like, barring their defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they're real good. They're real, real good. Yeah. And then it's just not.

[Mike Wright]

If you ask Ashton Genty, I was.

[Andy Holloway]

Thinking about, you know, your way to win. Your way to win is Javante to have a big game against his Cowboys receivers.

[Jason Moore]

What I was thinking, too, is that, like, my team, this is the rebuilding year for me in Dynasty. I thought I'd never do it right. The credit card bills were piling up. I don't know how long we've been doing that league, but I've never had a rebuilding team. I've always been. And I was thinking, like, I won titles with Christian McCaffrey, like, he is still here winning titles for people. The giving up on McCaffrey, moving him for somebody else. It's still him. He's still winning them.

[Mike Wright]

He's good.

[Jason Moore]

He's really good. Let's talk news.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

If I had kept him, I'd be in the playoffs. That's how good he is.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, probably.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, that would have happened. All right. We do have a few injury updates for the Saturday games. Come on. Evidel's questionable. Lamar Jackson, doubtful. Lamar, doubtful?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they've. They. There's other stuff saying he's just not expected to play.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Love, questionable, has been limited all week. I did see he had projections in price picks, so I thought that was interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

This is why I think the Ravens announced it earlier. Like, hey, Lamar's not going to play, guys. So Jordan, you just take a break.

[Mike Wright]

Ski, man.

[Jason Moore]

There probably would be. That would be strategically smart, like if you knew your guy.

[Mike Wright]

They're like, psych.

[Andy Holloway]

We said doubtful, you idiots.

[Mike Wright]

He's in one of the giant winter coats. The whole one. Then just rips it off.

[Jason Moore]

They're starting to talk about trade rumors with him.

[Andy Holloway]

What? The Cardinals are interested.

[Jason Moore]

The Lamar Jackson like, they're talking about. Harbaugh's tired of him.

[Andy Holloway]

Can. We're talking about Tyler Murray like, he's.

[Jason Moore]

29, which is when Cam Newton's like, he fell off a cliff with the athleticism, obviously. I think Lamar's, I mean, a great quarterback. It's just, you know, it would be smart if you were going to miss him. Anyways, announce it as soon as possible. Maybe they'll be tempted to give Love some time for the playoffs. Josh Jacobs off the injury report and we'll start.

[Andy Holloway]

They are still playing despite, you know, the jokes about maybe having an easier path to resting. Jordan Love. The packers do have, you know, a home field to play for.

[Jason Moore]

And Christian Watson, who was practicing, he's sick, but now he's got an illness.

[Mike Wright]

Did he run into crud?

[Andy Holloway]

All I know is I just hear crawdad when you say that the illness is going around this week. They are very serious.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe. Maybe. Trayvon Henderson, listed as a limited participant, practice on Wednesday in a non contact Jersey. A.J. brown. This was shot.

[Mike Wright]

You're okay.

[Jason Moore]

A.J. brown didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday because he got his wisdom teeth out in the middle of the.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, you can schedule these for whenever you want. Like the off season.

[Jason Moore]

Did he. Were they infected?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know, man, but that's just. It was crazy. Out of the blue. It had to have. I mean, but even when you have like impacting wisdom teeth, it's like you can't wait a month. I don't know. Maybe you can't, but.

[Mike Wright]

Anquin Bolden played football with a broken jaw.

[Jason Moore]

Just. Just saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, if A.J. brown plays football. I had my wisdom teeth out, and I can tell you, one week after they were out, I. I was still struggling pretty hard. A.J. brown, I'm sure.

[Jason Moore]

How many did you have? Oh, you got a full.

[Andy Holloway]

I had the full clip.

[Mike Wright]

I had the full four and I got the full four dry sockets.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, did you really?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Guys, did you guys both get your. It sucks your wisdom teeth out. How many did you have? Four pack.

[Andy Holloway]

I think so. I was really young.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, only two for Josh. Half as wise. That math checks out.

[Mike Wright]

I showed up and I only had one legit. I saw. I was like, man, I am. I must be the world's biggest baby.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, because of how much it hurt.

[Mike Wright]

Because everyone says it's not a big problem. Like, no, dude, this. This hurt. Days of just like, I can't do anything. My mouth hurts so bad. And then I. And then once you go back in for. They're like, oh, you should have came in for the things. I'm like, oh, well, at least I'm not a big baby. All right.

[Jason Moore]

George Kittle, non participant. We don't think we're going to see him. Ricky Pierce, all limited on Wednesday and Thursday. He's always been limited. It sucks. I do know, unfortunately, I now think of that with. With Ricky Pearsall. I never, I never expect anything, right?

[Mike Wright]

And it's so lame because it's. It's like he's getting illegally tackled and hurt every time it happens.

[Andy Holloway]

And shot. It's like, not too his fault.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that one.

[Mike Wright]

Come on, Ricky.

[Jason Moore]

You talk about not calling a hip drop.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

They throw a flag on the.

[Andy Holloway]

On a gunshot wound.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy forecast presented by Prize Picks.

[Jason Moore]

We have a couple Saturday games coming up. Texas Chargers, Ravens, Packers. Both of those were covered on the most recent episode of the show. But why talk about them again when we could talk about The Cardinals at three and twelve taking on the Cincinnati Bengals who are five and ten. Vegas line. Cincinnati minus seven and a half. The over. Under is 53 and a half. The Cardinals are probably going to be without all their players. Buddha Baker as well in the concussion protocol. Their only good player left, Walter Nolan.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean they are.

[Jason Moore]

Last week they Williams on ir.

[Andy Holloway]

They lost their best player on both sides of the field in Buddha Baker, their best pass rusher and their current healthy best cornerback, which was not their original. They have no defense left.

[Jason Moore]

I don't really understand how Cincinnati doesn't score 6,000 points in this game. It is the NFL. I thought Denver would score 6,000 points. I thought that Detroit would care about scoring in this game.

[Andy Holloway]

I did wonder. I mean, when you're both the defenses Christmas and you're at home and you've got fans and kids who this is their Christmas Day. Like those defenses that are good defenses, like there's something special to play for. We talk about like the Chiefs, do they have anything left to play for? No. For the first time ever. No. But you have that to play for. Like this.

[Jason Moore]

The offensive players don't have kids in presence to play for.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm. Well, I'm saying that the offensive players for this week, this year's Christmas games had backup quarterbacks. They all golf. Was that. No, that.

[Jason Moore]

Just saying home game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm saying the home crowd on Christmas, new narrative. All of the quarterbacks.

[Jason Moore]

Christmas present narrative.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Home Christmas present narrative for the.

[Jason Moore]

Defense by Jason Moore.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The Cardinals, they've lost every game. Jacoby Brissett has started.

[Mike Wright]

Good work, Jacoby.

[Jason Moore]

The Bengals got the offense back on track. 309 and four last week. The question to me isn't will Cincinnati scored their 30.5 implied point total, which is ridiculous. It's just how will it be Chase Brown three times again? Will it be Jamar Chase back into the end zone because somehow he hasn't scored.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Since week Seven. Will it be?

[Mike Wright]

He's saving them up for Mike. He's saving them up.

[Andy Holloway]

Guys, Mike has been saying we're getting.

[Jason Moore]

The turkey of all.

[Mike Wright]

We're getting three Jamar Chase touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man, you.

[Jason Moore]

We all know it's coming.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. I don't know what this is repayment for in your life, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

What You've the chill, the personal problems he removed.

[Jason Moore]

But yeah, Mike set up Joe Burrow. Chase. Yes. Higgins, yes. Brown, yes. If you wanted to mess around with Gasicki, I wouldn't even be mad at you because you might get lucky. You might get one. Arizona pretty trash. Kosiki's getting three, four, five targets a week. You play Trey McBride. What do you do with the wide receivers for Arizona?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm definitely still starting Michael Wilson. I know the Bengals have been better against wide receivers recently. Michael Wilson, he's been too good to continue benching or to bench. I mean, even this last week, he got the touchdown, which kind of saved his fantasy day. It wasn't great, but, you know, he's a wide receiver 22. There's. There's been one bad game in the last six weeks and this matchup is high implied team total. I think the question is, how confident are you in starting Marvin Harrison?

[Mike Wright]

Man, he was very limited last week, 51% of the snaps. He's still being limited in practice because of the heel. I think he's an okay ish play, but this isn't like Devontae Smith or Marvin Harrison.

[Andy Holloway]

Smith.

[Jason Moore]

Smith Wandale or Marvin Harrison?

[Andy Holloway]

Wandale.

[Jason Moore]

Wandale takes on the Raiders. Zay Flowers with no.

[Andy Holloway]

That one's with no.

[Jason Moore]

Lamar.

[Mike Wright]

Marvin Harrison Flowers. Flowers is still safe. Like Flowers will be.

[Andy Holloway]

He'll be.

[Mike Wright]

He'll have like probably eight points.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Snoop is not going to Brosmer and finish the game with 50 yards.

[Jason Moore]

Michael Carter or Michael Wilson is a top 10 question. Really? Yeah. Michael Carter, starter for the Or Michael Wilson. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's an easy Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

You give me Carter or Marv. I can see that. But not Michael Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. It's a top question right now in the flex rankings. So we're all on the Michael Wilson side of that one.

[Mike Wright]

I am.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Not Michael Carter is fine. 18:13 Opportunities over the past two weeks. He appears to be their guy. And I mean 53 and a half point over. Under.

[Jason Moore]

All right. This game should be crazy if you are playing against Burrow and Chase. I'm sorry. You should hope that the Cardinals offense throws like five pick sixes and ruins the Offense.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

But what about Jacoby Brissette?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, yeah, he's a very good play.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Pittsburgh 9 and 6. Cleveland 3 and 12. The Vegas line here. Pittsburgh minus 3. The over under is 34.5 lowest of the year gross and the lowest since Cleveland Miami in week 17 last year gross. That is all five lowest over unders of this entire season have involved the Browns and. Make sense, inept offense, great defense. So we also know the Ravens game on Saturday night might impact the Steelers and who they play and how they play them and how much they play. Because if Baltimore loses that game, which.

[Andy Holloway]

They probably will, which I think now.

[Jason Moore]

Without Lamar in Green Bay, which tells you like, man, Lamar must not have been able to play. This is a back bruise.

[Andy Holloway]

Now if you, if you watched him after the game in the locker room, it was like this guy was hurting. I felt like he could barely stand up. And he. He said he got what. What was the. What's the shot they get? Yeah, he got the tortoise shot. Still couldn't play through.

[Jason Moore]

Turns you into a turtle.

[Andy Holloway]

Throw some lidocaine on it, too. Just give me everything you got.

[Jason Moore]

So Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, only three point favorites on the road. Maybe some of that expectation is baked in already.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like, I really love Kenneth Gainwell here. With DK Metcalf gone, the matchup against the Browns, the running game has been working against the Browns and passing the ball to Kenneth Gainwell, your current leading receiver. He's running back, but he's got the most receptions on the team. It's perfect. But you have to monitor what happens with that Ravens game because I could see them. I mean, this could be. Caleb Johnson could get three carries, could get maybe five.

[Jason Moore]

Andy, I don't think that's happened.

[Mike Wright]

I have Jalen Warren in two championship lineups as of right now.

[Jason Moore]

Thinking about a pivot.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I'm at least preparing just in case. So I'm sure that'll come up on Sunday live.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe they play a lot of Warren because Gainwell's their dude and they need to keep him fresh.

[Mike Wright]

That has crossed.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, there aren't a lot of fantasy relevant players in this game. You're not starting pass catchers for Pittsburgh. And on the other side, Dylan Sampson. Limited. Limited. Might be back, but he'll share time. No question. Dylan Sampson is not a prototypical three down back. He is a pass catcher. You'll see Raheem Sanders, you'll probably see Travion Williams and Dylan Sampson all mixed.

[Andy Holloway]

Together on the course of the season. The Steelers are number one against running backs. You're not playing either of them. And then there's really, there's only Harold.

[Jason Moore]

It's Fannin.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And move on.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

And that's what we're going to do. We're going to go into the break, come back with the Saints. Titans.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

The New Orleans shucks 5 and 10 taken on the 3 and 12 Titans New Orleans minus 2 and a half on the road over under 39 and a half. What a great opportunity for the shock momentum to continue right like you look at what matters for the Saints right now and it's confidence in a quarterback for the future. You know the I think he's four and three is a starter and the record of other starting rookies this year is abysmal. They currently have the eighth spot in the draft. Titans are sitting at five. Tyler Shuck has been the quarterback eight in fantasy over the last month. I believe he has started against you this week Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

He sure is in listenerly. He sure is. It is irrelevant but it's amazing thinking.

[Jason Moore]

Back two months ago to the idea of starting Tyler Schuck in fantasy, much less caring about Tyler Schuck at all.

[Andy Holloway]

And in the championship game, which it is pretty good matchup. I mean Tennessee gives up points to the quarterback position. Tyler Schuck has been playing well and you know this is a team. You remember when they started the year this team had a very high pass rate over expectation, very fast pace of play. It was great for fantasy football. This is what we wanted to see.

[Mike Wright]

Then it was like we weren't getting ceiling though. We were, we were getting a real nice floor from the Kellen Moore Offense.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And so. But then they were like, trying to, I don't know, be like, okay, we've got Spencer Rattler. How are we going to. Maybe we should slow this down. Then it was a new rookie, Tyler Schuck. And now I think they're opening it up and it looks great.

[Jason Moore]

Told you guys. I thought Pollard would get it done last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's been a man on a mission.

[Jason Moore]

He's on pace. His last three games, he'd be on pace for 2,000 yards and 17 touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

He is like, oh, I'm almost to contract stocks. Let's go.

[Jason Moore]

He's 151 yards away from $250,000 bonus. He's at over 100 yards in three straight games. Tony Pollard is fine this week. You talk about the letdowns you had from Gibbs and Monty and these other running backs. Pollard just out of nowhere, hyper relevant.

[Mike Wright]

He was the most invisible, but a name that you knew. You're like, should I play Pollard? But he was doing nothing with plenty of work. Yes, it was. It was madness.

[Jason Moore]

And now it's gone up even more. I mean, up over 20 opportunities, twice in the last three weeks. It's not a great matchup, but it's at home. And I think you just stay in the flames. This is pure NBA Jam rules here.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And not that we're playing Cam Ward, but we talked about how Tyler Schuck, Cam Ward is playing much, much better. Like there is. We're halfway through the year with the Titans, and it was, oh, my God, gosh, if we end up with a number one pick again, do we just take another quarterback? But since the coaching change, you know, weeks 11 through 16, he's completing 64% of his passes. He's running a little bit like they're. You can see the path now for Cam board.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree.

[Mike Wright]

Which is very exciting.

[Jason Moore]

A lot of people have questions around Taysom Hill and whether he's a viable play this week. They, you know, the Titans have been great against the run, but Taysom Hill does more than just run. He should be the guy that gets a goal line opportunities with basically no running backs left. I mean, yeah, auto guesstimate, we thought maybe we'd have an opportunity. Last week, he had a total of five attempts on the ground. He's not been good on the ground at all. Somehow he's catching two or three really bad passes a week. It seems like Taysom Hill is your break glass play this week at tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, it's funny because I don't think this situation's ever happened before. The two tight ends that I would look for on waivers are same team on the same team. It's like Joanne Johnson, I think is Great. You had nine targets last week, eight catches. He's the clear number two target in this offense. Yes. 67 yards away from a quarter million dollars. So you know he's going after that's.

[Mike Wright]

Going to give him that money.

[Andy Holloway]

Taysom Hill, though. I mean, 12 rushing attempts and four receptions. Opportunities around the goal line. Like, I'm not sure which one I would want to start more, but I want to start both.

[Mike Wright]

I would pick Juwan Johnson because Taysom Hill.

[Jason Moore]

So would Jason just start of the week.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Well, between Juan and Taysom is tough of like. I think there's a chance that Taysom does nothing. I think that that is a possibility. But then there's also the possibility that last week was, this is how we're going to use him now for the remainder of the season with our injuries. He just. I don't. I don't know for sure what he's going to do.

[Jason Moore]

I can't imagine he doesn't have 10 opportunities on the ground. Genuinely.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so you're on the side of.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I just don't. I saw zero from estimate or hold. That makes me think they would pivot from what they did last week.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm curious who has, like, higher odds for a touchdown. I feel like Taysom Hill has more paths, whether passing one in being the goal line back, even catching one. I know Juwan Johnson's my start of the week, but I think I would actually start Taysom Hill over him.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Olave.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Has been amazing. He's the wide receiver six. Keep playing him, especially in this matchup. And I think that covers it. I mean, if you wanted to ask a quarterback question. Tyler Shucker, Jacoby Brissette.

[Mike Wright]

I think I'd go Brissette.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go Jacoby.

[Jason Moore]

Caleb Johnson at San Francisco, my start of the week or Tyler Shuck.

[Andy Holloway]

How many quarters is Caleb get?

[Mike Wright]

Does he get five?

[Andy Holloway]

Because he was great with five.

[Mike Wright]

I think I'd play Shock.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd go Caleb.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Jacksonville's 11 and 4. They take on the Indianapolis Colts. By the way. By the way, this game is Jacksonville -6 over, under 48 and a half. Philip Rivers is better than half of the players in football at the quarterback position. We were marveling watching these games. Just like you can't find 30 people in the world to play this position professionally. And a 44 year old out of shape, hasn't played in five years.

[Andy Holloway]

Philip Rivers with no arm, ability to throw most NFL throws un calculably better.

[Jason Moore]

Than Max Brosmer, than Ola Duke and I mean then, then literally probably. I mean then Shador. He'd be better for that team than Shador.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean it's like Tom Brady could come in and beat 2/3 of the starters.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably true today. I still think Brett Favre could do it, but that's the one I want to see.

[Jason Moore]

So does he.

[Andy Holloway]

How old is Brett favre?

[Jason Moore]

It's probably 53. That's my guess.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm on it. He is 56. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I don't think he could do it anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

But, but I want to see it.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. It's just crazy science.

[Mike Wright]

Jade for an update. Juwan is plus 180. Taysom is plus 195. Okay for a touchdown. So Juan, just a little ahead.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's a must win game for Philip Rivers and the Colts to have any chance of staying alive. They would be eliminated if I think if Houston just wins.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So low odds right now for the formerly 7 and 1 Colts. I believe this was the game that I said. I'm, I'm really on the edge of making it. Taking the Colts as the almost upset in this one. So I guess I'll just formalize it.

[Andy Holloway]

Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Jason Moore]

I don't, I don't really know if the Colts defense can do enough to slow down what's been going on with Jacksonville. But being at home with everything on the line. Jacksonville coming off the Denver win. I'll give it a shot. It's a six point gap. They don't have to win. They just got to get it closer than that. Six points. Jacksonville been playing outstanding. Jason, you made Trevor Lawrence your start of the week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to stay in the Flames. You want to talk NBA Jam rules? This is, this is just life rules. When someone's been as good as they've been since the bye week. You know, his last eight games, he's on pace for 36 passing touchdowns and 12 interceptions. 4,000 passing yards. He's also running the ball. 444 rushing yards. And he's got the offense moving. Or maybe Liam Cohen's got the offense moving.

[Jason Moore]

Did you see his comments though? He said they've changed 0 of their offense or their offensive. Like anything they've done with Trevor. They haven't changed a thing all season long.

[Mike Wright]

He's just, they said he's processing faster.

[Jason Moore]

He's just finding his way through the offense. I thought. I mean, interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

The issue with Trevor Lawrence has always been putting the ball where a receiver can't catch it. That's it. Like, he'll make these amazing plays, but he's been very inconsistent with his accuracy recently. He's just putting the ball where they need it. And it's like, all right, he's got the tools, he's athletic, he's tall, he's strong armed. He's got the weapons. Everything is set up for him. If he can just be. Yeah, the hair, all sorts of things. So I just, I always. I always remember thinking about the tweet that said he's got one too many horse parts. And I can't get that out of my. I can't get that out of my life. Like Trevor Lawrence.

[Jason Moore]

I 100% knew you were going to make a horse comment. I 100% knew you decided. Oh, I shouldn't say that.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got the main. Who knows what all horse parts he has, but he's, he's. He's got a lot of. So anyways, he's.

[Mike Wright]

Horse got rocket arm.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah, he's a stallion.

[Jason Moore]

What's the sound again? What do they call that?

[Mike Wright]

A weenie. Well, no, that's not.

[Jason Moore]

Neither one. Right. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What. When they do the lips. What is that thing called?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know. It sounds like.

[Mike Wright]

Is that a horse?

[Jason Moore]

Like a strawberry. It's a horse. It's a horse blurt. Horseberry Blarp. I thought our research team might be looking in, but they're not.

[Mike Wright]

They don't care.

[Jason Moore]

I was. Oh, were you?

[Andy Holloway]

Says lip flapping or lip fluttering.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I see. Okay, you gotta play Travis etn.

[Andy Holloway]

You gotta bring him that better play.

[Jason Moore]

Travis ETN and give me the order of your confidence in the wide receivers for Jacksonville. I have Jacobi Myers as my start of the week. Parker Washington just went crazy last week. It's hard to. It's hard to be like, hey, play Brian Thomas. But he had, he had Pat Certan last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think it. I think it's Jacoby Thomas Washington for me.

[Andy Holloway]

That's how I put it too. And it feels kind of stupid.

[Jason Moore]

What was the name again? It sounded like one person.

[Mike Wright]

Jacoby Thomas Washington.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. Famous president. Right?

[Mike Wright]

Of course.

[Jason Moore]

Jacoby.

[Andy Holloway]

It feels stupid to have 34, Parker Washington third on the list because he's been really good for a long time. That entire. That exact same time frame after the bye week For Trevor Lawrence, I mean, he's been a top 24 wide receiver four of his seven starts. But I agree. I mean, the best overall wide receiver is Jacoby. The highest upside, big fantasy outpouring is obviously Brian Thomas Jr. And then Parker Washington could get it done. But I do think last week Parker Washington benefited from a great Broncos defense that kind of was focusing on the 1 and 2 and letting Parker surprise.

[Jason Moore]

Jonathan Taylor has not been a top 12 running back since week 10. It's a brutal matchup against Jacksonville. It's not really going to change. You know what you're doing. It's kind of like the reason you always play Jonathan Taylor is because of what Ashton Genti did last week. Even when you're having a tough time, you're Jonathan Taylor, which means one play.

[Mike Wright]

Which it's still been fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's like he has been so good.

[Jason Moore]

Though, in the last six weeks. Number one in football against running backs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, he put up 21 for 74 against them with a touchdown a couple of weeks ago.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, it's not a change your plans. It's just maybe he's not the one that carries you to the title this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, correct.

[Jason Moore]

He helps you, Pittman, Pierce, Downs, put them in order.

[Mike Wright]

I think. I think Downs is the safest play. If you're just like, I need a floor. And then I. Then I guess I'd go, pierce, if I'm trying to hit my ceiling. Michael Pittman is just in this weird limbo area in the offense with Philip Rivers.

[Jason Moore]

3 for 26, 4 for 30, 2 for. Pittman hasn't scored since week 12.

[Mike Wright]

And we have the. There's two Rivers starts so far.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So, I mean, in that targets each game. Yeah. In those two, he's. Michael Pittman's playing the whole game and 26 yards and 32 yards. It's not that I think Pittman is playable, but I think I prefer the other guys.

[Jason Moore]

Tyler Warren is my start of the week at tight end. Nine targets last week with Phil. He is the most helpful offensive weapon that they have for Philip Rivers, in my opinion, with the size, short area, target capability. I like Tyler Warren. I might stand alone in this group.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you do. I get it. I get it. The matchup is fine. The targets have been there nine last week, but it turned into 30 yards, you know, three for 30 with Philip Rivers, three for 19 with Philip Rivers.

[Mike Wright]

I'm in the middle. I'll still take nine targets.

[Andy Holloway]

I would.

[Mike Wright]

I think it'll be better.

[Andy Holloway]

I would Play the Saints guys personally over over Warren.

[Jason Moore]

Tampa Bay 7 and 8, but still alive. The Dolphins 6 and 9. Vegas line. Tampa Bay minus 6 over under 45 and a half. If they win their last two games, Tampa Bay will win the South. So they're right there. Despite the fact it's looked bad since week nine, the bye week. Baker completing just 59% of his passes.

[Andy Holloway]

Going to Abuka. Too much. T. Key doesn't know how to throw to him.

[Jason Moore]

Well, Abuka is not even in play. I don't think you would even consider a Bukan championship week. That would be crazy. Any player on any team. Yes, even Turpin, right, can make a big play on any given week, but there's nothing statistically snap wise of encouragement right now for the last six weeks. So, you know, they came out this week right away and they're like, oh, we got to get him involved early.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a big. That was. That was talked about OC head coach. That was like what they were saying. And then they give him 56% of snaps.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm saying after that.

[Andy Holloway]

But they did it before as well.

[Jason Moore]

No. And then they came out and. And so we need to get.

[Mike Wright]

We're all trying to find the guy responsible.

[Jason Moore]

And again, Baker, last week, we can say all we want, but he threw for 145 yards two weeks ago, 122 yards. That will not make any of it work for anybody. It won't make it work for Evans. It won't make it work for Godwin. It won't make it work for Abuka.

[Mike Wright]

The Bucks are. This is weird and sad that they become what they have become because you have. Yeah, I'm playing Mike Evans. I have no problem there. But it's like Bucky Irving, who. When I'm watching him, he looks great. He looks like Bucky Irving. He's still getting a bunch of opportunities, except they have now gone to like, he's getting. He's getting charboned by Sean Tucker.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Sean Tucker is seemingly the goal line.

[Mike Wright]

Back that gets on that one.

[Jason Moore]

Not Charbonne, huh?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. It's like, they're like, okay, thank you for your work, Bucky. Get out of there. Sean Tucker will take it from the.

[Andy Holloway]

In the four games since he came back from injury, he's not hit just 4 yards of carry in a single game. He's not been the efficient, explosive Bucky where we were used to prior to that injury. I don't know if he's still struggling with it or if more likely. Because when I watch Him. I don't think he looks like he's physically struggling. I think it's the Bucks offense.

[Mike Wright]

I agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

And Baker Mayfield, that's just kind of taken a step down. I think Baker is struggling physically and so it hurts the whole cast. So are you saying that, you know, would you. Are you going and looking at your roster genuinely if you've got a Michael Carter or you just playing Bucky and.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to play Bucky.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

He's had a 10 plus yard run in all four of his starts. I think you still look for big play there. They're heavily favored. I wouldn't go away from him for Michael Carter, personally.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

I wouldn't even think about it.

[Mike Wright]

Not to that level, man.

[Andy Holloway]

What about Kenny Gainwell?

[Jason Moore]

I think that's a more fair discussion. But I'm nervous about everything in that game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I agree with you.

[Jason Moore]

Low over, under. How about a divisional?

[Mike Wright]

Tracy.

[Andy Holloway]

Tracy, good. Against the Raiders.

[Mike Wright]

I think I might go with him over Bucky.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I've got Bucky out of all of these players in my rankings.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I play Bucky.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I will stick with Bucky.

[Jason Moore]

Devon Hn play him. I'm done talking about the Dolphins.

[Mike Wright]

That is.

[Jason Moore]

I just started.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that's because years.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you're talking about an infinitely better quarterback than Max Brosmer.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. An infinitely better for 260. Incredible.

[Jason Moore]

What about Jalen Waddle? Waddle. Or Ted McMillan lad Bakonki against Houston?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's tough.

[Mike Wright]

Waddle. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Watson versus Baltimore Christian Watson.

[Andy Holloway]

How's his tummy?

[Mike Wright]

How's his tummy? And who is his quarterback? So I don't think I can. Not enough info to answer that right now.

[Jason Moore]

New England's 12 and three. The jets are three and 12.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, palindrome.

[Jason Moore]

Vegas line. New England by just 13 and a half on the road over unders 42 and a half.

[Mike Wright]

Denver was favored by that as well.

[Jason Moore]

Implied point total. Yeah, but Denver always is and always freaking does that. Man, they are so annoying.

[Mike Wright]

Frauds. But they are. I don't think they're fraud.

[Jason Moore]

No, I like what you said. They play to their opponent. But that's also like, can you do that in the playoffs and count on it?

[Mike Wright]

Maybe. I mean, here's the thing. Maybe they are. You know how teams, your identity takes shape based off of like, something. It's like, oh, your coach. And it's like, Sean Payton's real annoying. Right?

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah, he's very annoying. Just.

[Mike Wright]

Denver Broncos have adapted that. We're just an annoying team.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. So you're like your people want to.

[Mike Wright]

Punch us in the face.

[Jason Moore]

So the Cardinals are like a poop team.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They're number two.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Trying to think. Yeah, the Andy Reid's teams are fun. They're always fun. He's fun.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

We got the Rams. The Rams are cool, right? They're a cool team.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. They're hip. They're. They're cool. They're sexy.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's talk about the Jets.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to put this in my analysis moving forward.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the over under is like 10 points under, almost 10 points under the Cardinal game. But the Patriots have almost the same implied point total as the Bengals because of the how favored they are.

[Mike Wright]

So New England, we do have New York. We have some questions now. I love on Wednesday. It's like, I mean, I love Drake May in this matchup. I know they're heavily favorable, but I think that they will. I think that Drake May will come through with a, with a big game. And on top of that, like, you know, they're, they're trying to win. Drake May, an MVP might try and get him a little a bonus touchdown or here one or two of them. But you have Keisha Booty, who is not practicing with a concussion. Now you have Mack Hollis, he's not going to play. Who has not practiced all week with an abdomen injury even though he's very, very close to a $400,000 payday if he just gets four more catches. But it's just the lack of those guys. It's not that I'm pivoting off of Drake May. Just maybe the ceiling is not what it would what I was projecting on Wednesday.

[Jason Moore]

You can see a ton of Ramondre in this game because of the lack of need to throw the football. You could see a ton of consolidation.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what's going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

Hunter Henry is who I like the very most.

[Andy Holloway]

Five on the season. I think Hunter Henry and Stefan Diggs are going to have.

[Jason Moore]

He's your five on the season.

[Andy Holloway]

He's my tight end. Five this week. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I was like, that's an impressive new stat. I didn't know we did that.

[Andy Holloway]

But I, I think there will be a consolidation of fantasy points like Drake May will spread it around annoyingly. So he'll go to the open guy. But if Kyle Williams, if his guys are.

[Mike Wright]

Kyle Williams is legit worth talking about.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean he. Well, could be.

[Mike Wright]

What, you know, the volume wasn't there necessarily. He had the huge awesome touchdown catch when Booty Got knocked out of that game. He was the one who actually ran the most routes. Of the remaining wide receivers, Diggs is.

[Jason Moore]

Four receptions from $500,000. Henry three from $500,000. They'd love to get those guys those marks this week. A million dollars to hand out there. Ramon Dre, a great start this week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And Drake May should be 202. That's what I think that don't expect him. I mean he had not been really Inside the top 10 for a while before this week. Despite all the wins. Right. They won every game except for one against Buffalo. Quarterback 17, 11, 12, 12, 10, 13. Finally got back in there at seven last week. If he was a quarterback 14 this week, that would be about my expectation.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think that starting the week when we thought maybe they would have more weapons available, he was a little bit higher. Especially if, you know, if Trayvon doesn't go because Travion's such a, you know, take that screen pass for 50 yards and a touchdown. I had him early in the week as like my quarterback two or three. Now he's more seven, eight range with guys I would play ahead of him.

[Jason Moore]

Ramondra can take the screen pass 15 yards out of bounds.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So that's also possible.

[Andy Holloway]

He'll take the exact same amount of time to do it though.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Break some tackles and go. And then it's like the length of the play.

[Jason Moore]

Valuable player.

[Andy Holloway]

The length of the play is like sexy players. Seven seconds. Whether it's Hindo or Ramon Dre. Brady, which one goes a lot farther?

[Jason Moore]

Brady Kirk will start on the other side. And that is bad news for the Jets. Breeze hall has not only been really bad for fantasy running back. 44, 47, 40, but I was looking at this because it was. It was one of my prize picks projections that I almost went with this week. I didn't do it, but it was like 13 and a half yards longest rush. Which normally is a bad scary bet for Breeze Hall. He's had longer runs. He hasn't done that in three weeks earlier. He hit 13 for three weeks earlier.

[Andy Holloway]

This year when they had quarterbacks under center, you know, you had a long run of 18, 17, 23, 22, 35, 30. Now you look at the last just going back in the box score the last week, 7, 13, 11, 9, 9, 11. It's like if they don't have a quarterback there, you have one player to stop because that quarterback's not going to get the ball to Adnai Mitchell down the field and hurt your team. Breeze hall could do something. So you're playing everybody focus on breeze.

[Mike Wright]

Hall and trying to just get into the psychology a little bit of maybe just narrative. But Breece Hall, I mean he's his Christmas chain. He's counting it down. He's cutting the rings off.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely.

[Mike Wright]

Of he's like freedom. Get me out.

[Jason Moore]

Packs a new bag every day.

[Mike Wright]

You think Breece hall wants to get hurt?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

With two.

[Mike Wright]

Two weeks left and he's going to try and break the bank, man. He's going to make business decisions and he should.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Vegas, Cleveland, New York is the 2, 3 and 4 in the draft right now.

[Andy Holloway]

He should get a tummy issue today. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Bad sushi, guys.

[Jason Moore]

They were saying the Giants need to counter the Brock Bowers to IR by starting Russia. We'll take a break. We'll get into some more matchups.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

The 12 and three number one seed Seattle Seahawks are seven point favorites against the eight and seven Carolina Panthers. The over under is 42 and a half. It's not a lot. Carolina does control their own destiny, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

It'S wild. The the Seahawks do as well for the number one seat.

[Andy Holloway]

Those control your own destiny. Things are so funny to me because like Carolina controls its own destiny, but also so does Tampa Bay because they play. Because they play each other. So it's just who wins that game.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. Yeah, that's fair. It's going to end up a week 18 battle. They can Clint Clinch the NFC south if they won this game. They're seven point underdogs. They've been seven and two and one score game Seattle six and three. Both of these teams have been good and they're.

[Mike Wright]

They win and Tampa loses.

[Jason Moore]

And Tampa Bay loses. Thank you. So where are you in this one? Rico Dowdle has been really disappointing. He is 70 yards from a million dollars. I don't think they give two farts about that right now because when you don't have your playoff seating secured, you don't care about that. You just play to win the game.

[Mike Wright]

Been disappointing based off of an adjustment that you made mentally about him in the middle of the season. But last week against Tampa, that was horrible. 6.3 fantasy points. But before that, you know, even though he's not destroying the world, he was still getting over 10 points a week. But the confidence to play him in this matchup against the Seahawks, Michael Carter is pretty low.

[Andy Holloway]

Michael Carter. Okay, easy Michael Carter. This is a situation where you had a run where he was, you know, 80 plus percent of snaps, 70 plus percent of snaps. Then Chuba comes back. They, they went right back to Chuba. Then they were like, oh, we made a mistake. We got to go back to Rico. And then they're like, ah, we made a mistake. Now it's like they're splitting. They're just splitting. And since they've been splitting, he has not been that good. He's been subbed in most of those splits when he's down around 50% of the snaps where you expect him to be. And then you add that against a very tough opponent here. I mean, this is a matchup that you don't want to run against the Seahawks on the course of the season. And in the last six weeks, they're number two against running max. So you tell me, you get 50% of less than what Carolina usually does. I would look elsewhere.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Like my Dynasty squad. I'm trying to figure out my final flex position and like Juwan Johnson is in play for me. Oh, I have Rico on that roster. It's like no, I would play another tight end in that situation before I'm playing Rico this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I agree.

[Jason Moore]

Tedron McMillan currently the favorite for offensive rookie of the year. I do think it'll be interesting if he has a slow week and Tyler Shuck has a big week.

[Mike Wright]

If Shuck wins at least one more game, I think that Shuck will be the rookie. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

His schedule on the road against Tennessee and then the last game on the road against the Falcons. For Shuck, those are two winnable games. If he wins both, he's guaranteed.

[Jason Moore]

That'd be so awesome.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

But Tetaro has been good sarsit decisions in this game. Mike, the Kenneth Walker situation from last week, is he just setting you up to let you down?

[Mike Wright]

He is a terrifying start this week because it should. It makes sense, you know, not. I'm not even looking at last week the. The 11 for 100 against the Rams. It's just he is explosive and The Panthers are 27th against running backs on the season. 28th over the last six weeks. It's right there for Walker if he's going to. I mean if he scores your lineup right. He is. It's between him and Joanne Johnson. Trying to figure out what I need.

[Andy Holloway]

Who would you start between Kenneth Walker and Charbonnet?

[Mike Wright]

It's still Walker.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's still but it's like charge.

[Mike Wright]

This could be one of those stupid games where charms two touchdowns on eight carries.

[Jason Moore]

You are always playing with fire with Kenneth Walker.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, you are. He is an explosive player since this week where it didn't make sense last week and he came through.

[Jason Moore]

It feels. It feels a lot like Travion and Ramon Dre, but maybe a little bit light. Like Kenneth Walker had two 50 plus yard plays last week. Right. He had the pass catch early in the game that he almost scored on down at the three. Had the long touchdown run. But if you don't get the big play from him, you know, Ramon Dre rumbles into the end zone. Charbonnet rumbles into the end zone.

[Andy Holloway]

If your big play doesn't end in the end zone, you are not rewarded.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

You are taken out and the other guy gets it.

[Jason Moore]

That's right.

[Andy Holloway]

JSN Always playing him.

[Jason Moore]

Play him with joy in your heart. AJ Barner a desperation play at Tight end probably wouldn't do it in this matchup though, even though he's been pretty good. It's a tough matchup for tight ends. That's all you can lean on right here. And Sam Darnold, is he an option heavily favored on the road here at all?

[Andy Holloway]

I think. I think there's better options in single quarterback leagues that are available. Darnold has been really hot and cold.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, red light, green light.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we're on. We're on the way to a red light, though.

[Jason Moore]

I got a laugh here. I'm just. I saw that some waivers went through in our league of record. I'm like, oh, Mike, Daniel, the two guys going at it in the championship game. No, it was. It was the freshly eliminated Papa Josh picking up Dylan Sampson, just in case. What's that for? You never know, man.

[Mike Wright]

You never know. Judkins, I mean, wins. Judson Judkins can be ready with that.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, dude, talk about a keeper. All right, the Giants. Didn't we talk about this game enough? I guess not. The Giants are 2 and 13. The Raiders are 2 and 13. It's a 41 1/2 point over under Giants, 1 1/2 point road favorites. These teams cannot stop the run their quarter. I mean, Jackson Dart. The game plan for Jackson Dart last week was basically like anybody could do what you're doing. Why did they do that?

[Mike Wright]

I don't. Yeah, it felt like he was being punished.

[Jason Moore]

It was weird.

[Andy Holloway]

This team was way better with Dable. I don't care.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, they definitely were.

[Andy Holloway]

They were.

[Jason Moore]

They haven't won a game since he's left. I. And I would not. I would not doubt that Tracy and Singletary get 30 plus opportunities this week. I mean, the recipe for this game is going to be. This is going to be gross. It's going to be a gross game. It's going to be running back, which sucks.

[Mike Wright]

Jackson Dart was fantastic for.

[Jason Moore]

I have no confidence in him. None. Against the snaps, he had zero fantasy points last week. He played the whole game 100% of snaps. Zero fantasy points.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would bail out.

[Jason Moore]

So I would bail out of just about everything in this game outside of Genti and Tracy.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Wanda, I guess Wanda's.

[Jason Moore]

But that scared me last week with the ppr.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, obviously if they're not letting Dart throw the ball, that's going to be bad for all the receiving options. I can't believe that they're going to go as extreme as it was last week because, I mean, that was the first and only Game we've seen like that they've been letting Dart throw, so I don't know what their rationale was for that. And maybe it.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe for next year, that's how it feels.

[Mike Wright]

And both. Both of these franchises, it will be so much better for everyone to lose.

[Jason Moore]

Someone's going to win.

[Andy Holloway]

This is the Dung Bowl.

[Jason Moore]

Somebody's going to win, and the other team's going to get the number one pick.

[Mike Wright]

So, you know, Raiders are at home.

[Andy Holloway]

Who wins?

[Jason Moore]

Who's Fernando Mendoza rooting for? Because Mendoza might go to the Raiders.

[Mike Wright]

In both situations, then he should be hoping that the Raiders lose so they don't have to trade assets to go get him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I don't know. No pivots to Michael Mayer with no Brock Bowers.

[Mike Wright]

No. The Giants defense is stingy against Titans.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Okay. Darius Slayton can eat a butt once again.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you, Darius.

[Andy Holloway]

Trey Tucker should be okay. I mean, the targets are going to have to go somewhere. We're going to keep our eyes on Jack Bash. Hopefully. He looks good as a, you know, end of rookie season, good opportunity, but you're not playing him. Trey Tucker should be the target beneficiary from having no Brock Bowers.

[Jason Moore]

Phillies 10 and 5. The Buffalo Bills are 11 and 4. The Vegas line. Buffalo minus one and a half over under 43 and a half. We thought Lane Johnson might come back this week. He will be. I don't think he's going to be back. He heard Mike needs one more week of not blocking well for Saquon since Mike's facing Saquon, and then he'll come back because it's Mike's year.

[Mike Wright]

I would Magic Mike really appreciate that.

[Jason Moore]

Jalen Carter will be back. That will impact the defensive line for Philadelphia and the production of James Cook a little bit, who leads the NFL in rushing yards. So it's not a start. Sit. Change Saquon. Play him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It is a run funnel.

[Mike Wright]

He should be. He should be excellent this week.

[Jason Moore]

The Bills are 32nd in rushing touchdowns allowed, 32nd in yards after contact, 31st in yards per contact or per carry allowed. So, yeah, play the running backs, play the quarterbacks. We got good news on Josh Allen in the foot. Nothing hindering him. He's going to be okay. Jalen hurts, though, you know, Is he going to have A.J. brown with the teeth if A.J. brown's out? I'm probably.

[Mike Wright]

You're willing to pivot?

[Jason Moore]

I might be willing to pivot off of Jalen hurts this week. I think you can run the football and I think if he's not tush pushing him and just devontae Smith makes me nervous.

[Andy Holloway]

Your start of the week, Caleb Johnson or.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man.

[Andy Holloway]

Or her.

[Jason Moore]

His name is Caleb Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, thank you.

[Jason Moore]

Caleb Williams. You're thinking of your fantasy mvp.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Hey shooters, shoot right.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you play Caleb Williams or Jalen Hurts?

[Jason Moore]

I would play Caleb.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. That's only if A.J. brown.

[Jason Moore]

Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

That's only if A.J. brown is.

[Jason Moore]

If he's out.

[Andy Holloway]

Out.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It's hard to go away from from Hertz to that level. But I do have confidence in Caleb Williams this week. I don't have confidence on pass catching or tight end options for the Bills though. Where are you with Goddard, Jay?

[Andy Holloway]

I think that if A.J. brown is out, I mean we've seen a lot of success for whoever's left when One of those three are out. So if A.J. brown doesn't play, then I'm excited for both Devontae Smith and Dallas Goddard. Otherwise, I mean Goddard's just been weirdly good. Utilized around the goal line like he never has been in his entire career up until now. I never want to buy in or.

[Mike Wright]

Believe it, but 10 points in three straight games.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean when you're at this point in the season, your championship week, week 17, he's the tight end five on the season. I think you just have to stay with him.

[Jason Moore]

Sunday Night football my start of the week, Caleb Williams and The Chicago Bears 11 and 4 taken on the 11 and 4. San Francisco 40, Vegas line San Fran -3 at home over unders 52 and a half points.

[Mike Wright]

Christian 1. One more game more.

[Jason Moore]

One more game.

[Mike Wright]

One more game. Christian.

[Jason Moore]

You will have fully earned your true entry into the Footballers hall ring of honor.

[Andy Holloway]

Two years ago there was a wild statistic that one more game Christian 50%. If you drafted Christian McCaffrey, you had a 50% chance of winding up in the championship game. That was two years ago. I believe that that stat will be close to true again. Two years ago he let everyone down in that championship game.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah, he got hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why for me final victory is.

[Jason Moore]

Otherwise I would have been a double champ.

[Mike Wright]

Victory is not being declared. We need one more.

[Jason Moore]

Here's what's wild is if this holds up and he wins people titles this week, which the odds are in that favor. You just said 50% right? Over the last six years it will be 50% of the time he wins you leaks and it will be 50 because it will be three injury plagued years and three basically number one overall running back years which is Just.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to save it up.

[Jason Moore]

Unbelievable. Everybody in San Francisco has been hurt.

[Andy Holloway]

This year except him.

[Jason Moore]

Siphoned all of their power. Blood sacrifices for him and Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we kind of.

[Jason Moore]

One more game.

[Mike Wright]

We kind of made a pact together.

[Jason Moore]

One more game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we'll do what it takes.

[Jason Moore]

You decided to.

[Andy Holloway]

Bears have been good against running.

[Jason Moore]

I'm excited for this game. Sunday night football. These two teams 52 and a half point over under very good.

[Mike Wright]

The recent sacrifice for CMC had to be Kittle again.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah. You had almost nobody left. He used Pierce all twice. He used Kittle twice. John Jennings, your start of the week. Jason, you got to love him in this game. With Pierce all still banged up, Kittle banged up, probably not going to play Jake Ton just would be a desperation play at tight end. But yeah, I mean it's pretty straightforward there. It's more complex on the other side. Caleb is my start of the week. I feel like I sit a little bit alone on that one as well. But I don't think he needs five quarters. I think he could do it in four.

[Mike Wright]

He's just so erratic.

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Right now his consistency on the season. He is the. He is the quarterback 11 which is like oh, great. Caleb, he's a quarterback one this year. His consistency score is a D. 35% of his games are good. It really feels like how it was with Jordan Love last year where it was like he, he has big games and he can be real special but the vast majority of games he hurts you. Now this matchup is good. The over under is good. You can see, I can totally see why you're making him, you know, you're calling the shot that this is a good Caleb week. But he definitely scares me from a consistency standpoint.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's terrifying. He's terrifying. Absolutely. Philip Rivers torched this 49ers defense. So that's, that's part of the, that's the biggest part of the bet. But you know, Roma dunes a probably not going to play Luther Burden. We'll see. He's been limited, might not play and lack of weapons hurts makes it even scarier. We did get news in this game that Tom Pelissero, your boy Mike perfect.

[Mike Wright]

Oh good.

[Jason Moore]

Perfect news for you. Figuring out Kittle said he has a chance to play. He's played before without practicing. We'll see if he practices today. So Tom Pelissero and Mike just, just pay attention.

[Andy Holloway]

What is your pivot option at tight end? I didn't even pay attention.

[Jason Moore]

He went to strange yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Right now it's Brian Strange. So it would be the problem with.

[Jason Moore]

The decision, if you ask me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The problem with this game is it's at night. So, I mean, if you're. If you're waiting on Kittle, it just.

[Jason Moore]

It just sounded like the actual darkness would affect the game. I'm not. I'm sorry.

[Mike Wright]

I was like, they do have lights.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right. That's.

[Mike Wright]

So being able to see with visible light, not a problem. But your pivot option, would they shrink.

[Jason Moore]

Drastically if they didn't have lights? We'd be talking about like phases of the moon on the show. That'd be different.

[Mike Wright]

A new moon game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You be looking for the games that have the bright.

[Mike Wright]

And the game finishes 0 to 0 again.

[Jason Moore]

We hope.

[Mike Wright]

We really should get some lights in here.

[Jason Moore]

We hope to see some of the moon tomorrow. Maybe a crescent. Kyle Manon Guy DeAndre Swift, fix it for me. Tell me who's going to be great.

[Mike Wright]

Swift.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I would still lean the Swift side. He's been banged up and was a little bit limited, but he's. He's been the primary running back for the whole season. He's. He is what we know. He's a really, really good running back, too.

[Jason Moore]

Is love in the air? Colston Loveland, big disappointment last week despite 83%, 83% of snaps, but didn't have the production.

[Andy Holloway]

No Rome, no Luther Burden. And then Colston Loveland just disappears.

[Jason Moore]

Colston barely liked land.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Got him bodied.

[Jason Moore]

But. Yeah. Are you going to go back there?

[Andy Holloway]

He.

[Jason Moore]

I like. If you had Loveland, would you play strange over him? Even with the.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I would. You would? Yeah, I would play strange.

[Jason Moore]

49Ers struggle against tight ends.

[Mike Wright]

I would probably go see if Hunter Henry were on the waiver wire. Juwan Johnson. I would play over Loveland in.

[Jason Moore]

In.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, if you look at it this way, the last seven weeks, so not a small sample, like a really long stretch. Basically. He's had two games in that stretch where he got a touchdown and you were happy. And every other game that he didn't get a touchdown. You are seven points, five points, four points, eight points, four points. It's not. He is not like a possession.

[Jason Moore]

Give me the camera. Give me the camera. Receiver Touchdown guarantee.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

Touchdown guarantee for Colson loveland.

[Jason Moore]

Loveland.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Mr. Loveland.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Well, then I don't know what this is, but that's.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, that's a touchdown guarantee. That's if you give him for sure six points on top of the 30.

[Andy Holloway]

To you feel stupid now for saying strange.

[Mike Wright]

I do.

[Andy Holloway]

Now that you know he's getting a touchdown, I can't.

[Jason Moore]

Back on track. Back on track. Touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Man, Andy has Bears fever.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Goodness.

[Jason Moore]

That's a problem.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. How could it go wrong?

[Jason Moore]

The Rams. Here's your Monday Night football fantasy deciding. So if you are Stafford, Kyren, Puka, Bijon, London Pitts, it is a Monday night miracle you'll be looking for The Rams at 11 and 4. The Falcons at 6 and 9. The Rams minus 7 and a half over under 49 and a half. The Falcons ironically, like if they get beat, it helps the Rams pick. That's how motivated they are in this game. The Rams pick gets better if they beat the Falcons because the Falcons, they gave their pick to Los Angeles which right now is sitting at pick 11 in the draft extra motivated. That is, I mean that's genuinely really important. And they're in the hunt for the number one seed. So in this game, you know, this was one of those ones where I'm thinking to myself, oh, are the Rams, are they going to have stuff to play for Monday night after all these games? Yeah, yeah. A win makes their first round pick better and they can still get the number one seed. So where is the confidence level? What tier is Stafford in for this week for you? We underestimated him on this show. All three of us did. Against Seattle. We thought without Devonte Adams as his little goal line wide receiver. Yeah, he double middle fingered us because he was the number one quarterback on the week. The first time he did that all year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And they are 457 yards right now. I believe last I looked he was the odds on betting favorite to be the MVP of the league. That's got to be in the mind. They get around the goal line, they're going to have some stuff to help put him over the top. I think Matthew Stafford is a very good play this week.

[Jason Moore]

Do you like, like one of the things that happened last week is Seattle put up such a fight. Do you think Atlanta can do that at home in this game enough? If London is there, can they score enough on. Yeah. Can they score enough to give you confidence in all the offensive pieces for the Rams?

[Andy Holloway]

The nice thing is the Rams defense, their rushing defense is, has been very good most of the year. Their defense has been wilting a bit and their past defense has been where you attack them. So I think that you know, Drake London, Kirk Cousins and Kyle Pitts on, I mean this is, this is prime time. Kirk Cousins, which we know has not Been historically great.

[Mike Wright]

Not always. Pay attention to Drake London. He popped as a limited participant on Thursday.

[Andy Holloway]

Was he a full participant Wednesday?

[Mike Wright]

I don't. I just. You know, I got my alert that it's like, oh, Drake London's down to. From healthy to questionable. And he's like, what?

[Jason Moore]

London had finished wide receiver 11 and 7 before the injury came back. Didn't do much last week.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's. Thank you, Brooks. It's on an estimated practice because this.

[Andy Holloway]

Is a Monday night game. So this is their Wednesday practice.

[Jason Moore]

I would expect you still like him as your start of the week.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

So, Mike, just so I. So that people know, like, on Monday Night Football, right, you got Bijan in one league. I know that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Then you're facing Kyren and Puka in another league.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Is that the only players that touch this game for you, or is there others? Kyle Pitts.

[Mike Wright]

I'm against Kyle Pitts on Monday as well.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe. I doubt we'll get any drama because you'll be winning by 600 to 700 points. But if we do, it'd be possible. It'd be fun. We do have one more segment, guys.

[Mike Wright]

Like, no drama. Me and Mary J. Blige.

[Jason Moore]

No drama.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

One more segment.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy Face off presented by prize picks. All right.

[Jason Moore]

So happy. Not because I want to see Jason suffer or you suffer, but because I. I'm not to shame.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I will take it. Wheel of shame.

[Jason Moore]

I. I will say Mike and Jason, they had tied this week as the losers, and then they had to do a tiebreaker, and I.

[Andy Holloway]

You're the super loser. I'm the super loser. This is my spin. Spin that wheel. What do we got here?

[Mike Wright]

Got you something for Christmas, Starman Jerry.

[Andy Holloway]

I still want Jerry Jones to hit one.

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, cramped up. Cramped up with a. Oh, is it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's Krampus. Oh, yeah. I'm gonna eat your children.

[Mike Wright]

Have you guys seen the.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike's Fresh out of those.

[Mike Wright]

The what?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, you're fresh out of.

[Mike Wright]

Have you guys seen any? Got any of the reels or anything of, like, the Krampus parades?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Over in Europe, man.

[Jason Moore]

I wasn't sure.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, thank goodness this wasn't me, because that thing would not be worried.

[Jason Moore]

I asked Al to try it.

[Andy Holloway]

It's snug.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Look.

[Jason Moore]

Outstanding.

[Andy Holloway]

It's snug.

[Mike Wright]

Do you have your.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like you can breathe in there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, it's not. It's not too bad. Kind of like. Kind of like in here. I might stay after the show.

[Mike Wright]

You got your Lineup memorized.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you can see I could see through the holes enough. Can you hear me well enough?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you know we got you.

[Jason Moore]

Why don't you kick us kick it.

[Andy Holloway]

Off with Joe Burrow.

[Jason Moore]

Crap.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So the thing is is he's on Mike's team and so did you pick all Mike's players? We'll find out.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my God.

[Andy Holloway]

267 and a half passing yards. Yeah, he gonna blow that out of the water. So. I'm taking more than that.

[Jason Moore]

I thought, I thought about doing that. No joke that I'm actually going on the sad side. My quarterback is Jackson Dart and I'm taking 27.5 pass attempts and I'm taking less.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

That does make sense. After last week my.

[Mike Wright]

My quarterback is my green goblin. It's Jacoby Brissette. 209 and a half passing yards.

[Jason Moore]

209.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we're going.

[Jason Moore]

Goodness.

[Mike Wright]

I got one.

[Jason Moore]

Goblin was real green.

[Mike Wright]

I got one saved up for you though guys.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

My running back Chase Brown. Mike's running back Chase Brown. 53 and a half rushing yards against the Arizona Cars. No problem.

[Mike Wright]

No problem.

[Jason Moore]

That's not even a Goblin.

[Andy Holloway]

That is not a Goblin.

[Jason Moore]

I. My green goblin is my running back Tony Pollard. Eleven and a half rushing attempts. I'm taking them.

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Jason Moore]

I'm taking Green Gobble. Yeah, it's my guy.

[Andy Holloway]

That projection is crazy.

[Mike Wright]

I am trying to atone for some of last week's sins. I got ashton genty. Okay, 69 and a half rushing yards. We're going to go more. We're going to go more.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. I'm going away from Mike's team. This is where I lose Trey Tucker. His. This is not a green Goblin, just Tucker. Just four receptions at wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

I can't wait for this one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So I'm taking more than four receptions. With Brock Bowers out of the way.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going JSN receiving targets nine. I'm taking more.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I got T. Higgins in that big blow up spot to Higgins at 57 and a half receiving yards. We're going to go more.

[Andy Holloway]

And at tight end this is my green Goblin. I'm going with Harold Fannin Jr. Three and a half receptions.

[Mike Wright]

It's already done.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's living at 4 plus so I'll take more than that.

[Jason Moore]

I went Juwan Johnson, 42 and a half receiving yards.

[Mike Wright]

I'm taking the more in something that has not been done in our price picks matchups. Guys. Trey McBride. Demon.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you go.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. You're taking the more difficult.

[Andy Holloway]

Is this a touchdown?

[Mike Wright]

Seven and a half receptions.

[Jason Moore]

You took the Demon.

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

This guy is living on. He'll do whatever he wants.

[Andy Holloway]

He ain't scared.

[Jason Moore]

He's like, I can win at normal at normal odds. So I'm just going to do whatever to make it harder for me to still win.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. To be clear, I assume you're taking the more there. You didn't specify. All right.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you can't take.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you can't take both sides on a Demon.

[Jason Moore]

That was Fantasy Face off presented by prize picks. Seven days of picks misses back. Unwrap the great Max discounts on the app through December 26th and use the code footballers and get $50 in lineups when you play. Five dollars. Well, good luck everybody.

[Mike Wright]

Jason just looked like the saddest Krampus.

[Jason Moore]

He does look like a sad. Look at him.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't get to eat any. Children.

[Jason Moore]

We will be back on Monday to talk championship studs and duds. We will have championship shirts up on the website shopballers.com for you foot clan title winners if there's any inventory left if Mike hasn't bought it all up. And good luck Saturday, Sunday, Monday, we'll talk to you.

[Mike Wright]

One game, Christian. One more game.

[Jason Moore]

I don't even know if we'd see Mike ever again. If something happened Christian McCaffrey early in that game, I don't think we'd ever see him again.

[Mike Wright]

One game.

[Jason Moore]

He doesn't even want to entertain the joke.

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

One more Krampus. One more. Merry Christmas. Happy holidays everybody. Hope it was a good one. Enjoy the weekend and we will talk to you on Monday.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the Ffballers.

[Mike Wright]

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