Week 17 Waivers & Streamers + Championship Pick Ups, Commish Problems - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/23

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast: "Week 17 Waivers & Streamers + Championship Pick Ups, Commish Problems"

Date: December 23, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Episode Overview

This episode is a must-listen for anyone heading into their fantasy football championship week. Andy, Jason, and Mike bring high energy, deep analysis, and championship-winning advice as they break down the critical Week 17 waiver wire pickups, streaming options, and the playoff motivations impacting player value. The show also features playoff horror stories, commissioner drama, and listener questions, all in the Fantasy Footballers' trusted style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fantasy Playoff Drama & Listener League Stories

• Championship Runs Recap
  The hosts open with colorful recaps of playoff wins and heartbreaks, emphasizing the fine line between fantasy glory and agony. Personal office league exploits and legendary trash-talking moments are recounted for laughs.

  • [04:24] Andy shares about losing to “the biggest loser” who sent him trash-talking paraphernalia but is now a friend:

    “He sent me a signed photograph of himself ... white chocolate dipped Oreos ... Did not work out well for him in the championship.”

• Epic Monday Night Swings
  Wild stories from Week 16: Brock Purdy’s late interception leads to a 0.8-point win; Christian McCaffrey’s minus-one yard touchdown is a game winner.

  • [05:23] Andy:

    “The Brock Purdy interception flipped it to where they won and are moving on to the championship ... That’s an incredible one.”

• The Agony of Defeat
  The hosts empathize with “Josh” and other fantasy managers who suffered painful semifinal losses and discuss the emotional roller coaster:

  • [07:47] Jason:

    “Fantasy football is painful. This is normally when people quit for a bit.”

  • [07:48] Andy:

    "I quit."

  • [07:49] Jason (deadpan):

    "Yeah, yeah. This is normal."

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2. Injury & News Roundup (Week 17 Impact)

Notable Player Injuries

• George Kittle (TE, SF): Left with an ankle injury, potentially a hip-drop tackle. Initial thoughts are it’s not a high-ankle sprain, but the status is murky. Given it's a Sunday night matchup, owners need backup plans.

  • [08:15] Jason (on Kittle’s post-game comments):

    “He doesn’t think he has a high ankle sprain. He is not a doctor, but he’s had enough of them probably.”

  • [10:03] Jason:

    “If it’s game time decision, you’re going to be in a real pickle ... Do we have another Monday night game?”

• DK Metcalf (WR, SEA): Two-game suspension for a sideline fight; also risks losing $40 million in guaranteed money.

  • [10:41] Jason:

    “Far more significant for him ... It voids $40 million in future guaranteed money. He is appealing.”

• Lamar Jackson (QB, BAL): Day-to-day with a back bruise; QB streaming is in play for managers.

• Josh Allen (QB, BUF): Foot injury, X-rays taken, expected to play.

• Gardner Minshew (QB, IND): On injured reserve with leg fracture—a reminder of QB volatility for championship teams.

• RB Updates: Rhamondre Stevenson (concussion protocols impacting workload), Quinchon Judkins (Cleveland RB, out), Josh Jacobs (knee swelling, questionable).

Other News & Playoff Motivations

• AFC & NFC Playoff Races
  Every AFC team with fantasy-relevant players is playing to win (for seeding or division). In the NFC, most teams still fighting for playoff position, keeping fantasy options safe for Week 17.
  • [16:26] Jason:

    “Basically everybody you care about cares about this week. It’s wonderful. That’s rare.”

  • [16:02] Andy:

    “Every year it’s a PSA: convince your commissioner, or if you are the commissioner, change it to week 17.”

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3. Waiver Wire & Championship Pick-Ups

Running Backs

• Rhamondre Stevenson (NE, 57% rostered):
  Top pickup with championship-winning potential, especially if Henderson remains in concussion protocol.

  • [21:42] Andy:

    "It's insane that he is pickupable ... I would just be so in love with a player like that to go into championship week."

  • [22:06] Jason:

    "New England still trying to win their division ... It's a very significant opportunity coming back."

• Emmanuel Wilson (GB, 48%):
  Benefiting from Josh Jacobs’ knee issues; poised for a bigger workload.

• Michael Carter:
  In a committee, but solid volume and efficiency against a favorable Cincinnati matchup.

• Chris Rodriguez (WAS):
  Compelling deep play facing Dallas; value rose after Week 16.

• Blake Corum (LA):
  Reliable flex with a multi-week touchdown streak; plenty of workload, essentially startable amid injuries.

• Cleveland RB Situation:

  • Dylan Sampson & Raheim Sanders as speculative adds (pending injury news).

Wide Receivers

• Parker Washington (JAX):
  Boom-or-bust game plans, with Week 17 bringing a favorable matchup against the Colts.

  • [28:23] Mike (on Parker’s outlook):

    “He is a dart, a worthy dart throw ... but I would also, if I saw someone with Parker Washington in their lineup, I'd be a bit nervous about it.”

  • [29:19] Andy:

    “He is my number one pickup this week ... I would throw two other guys out there that are close: Mac Hollins and Adonai Mitchell.”

• Mac Hollins (ATL):
  Value hinges on Kayshon Boutte’s concussion absence.

• Adonai Mitchell (NYJ):
  Jets’ WR1, but hampered by low-end QB play.

• Josh Downs (IND):
  Sneaky volume; Alec Pierce close to the 60% roster cutoff but high-upside if available.

Tight Ends

• Taysom Hill (NO):
  Do-it-all threat amid Saints’ RB injuries, offering unique championship upside at TE.

  • [31:20] Andy:

    “My number one tight end pickup, as gross as it sounds, is Taysom Hill ... it feels like cheating.”

  • [32:53] Mike:

    “Man, it makes so much sense, but that would be terrifying.”

• Britain Strange, AJ Barner, TOnjas:
  Streamable only if injury situations break their way (e.g., Kittle out).

Defenses / DST

• Patriots DST:
  Smashing spot facing the Jets.

  • [31:01] Mike:

    “The New England DST is out there.”

• Lions DST:
  Facing a backup QB.

• Saints, Broncos, Jaguars DSTs:
  All viable, though Jaguars' outlook dimmed by Philip Rivers’ Week 16 resurgence.

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4. Quarterback Streamers

• Trevor Lawrence (JAX):
  QB4 since the bye, widely available, in a great matchup with the Colts.

  • [37:09] Andy:

    “He’s the quarterback four on the season since the bye – he’s been on fire.”

• Tyler Shough (TEN):
  Quietly QB8 over the last month.

  • [38:06] Mike:

    “Tyler Shough ... I think he’s good – he’s playing Tennessee, QB8 over the last month with a floor of 18 points.”

• Jacoby Brissett (ARI):
  Over/Under darling in a projected high-scoring game versus Cincinnati.

  • [39:30] Jason:

    “Highest over/under of the week. Jacoby can get it going again ... Past attempts will be crazy.”

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Highlighted Listener Mailbag & Commish Horror Stories

Memorable League Stories

• Superstitions in the Finals
  [43:21] Listener Jake (TX):
  League-mates all changed their names to pictures of him; hosts advise embracing the superstition:

  • [43:47] Andy:

    “You change your name to Your Fantasy King and you put your favorite picture of yourself up there and you accept it.”

• Commissioner Foul: Changing Playoff Structure During Playoffs
  [44:41] Ray (Boston):
  Commissioner changed playoff reseeding Sunday at 7pm, costing listener a win.

  • [44:52] Andy:

    “You cannot do anything in season without a league wide vote ... this is an all-time NO NO.”

  • [46:09] Mike:

    “This is a turd ... this is a turd of a human.”

  • [46:54] Andy:

    “Imagine your matchup this week ... and the commish flips it. No way.”

Championship Week Start/Sit Advice

• Would you start Tyron and Corum together given their matchup? Generally fine with it if other options are weak; upside is high ([49:38]).

• Listener questions on QB streamers (Burrow vs Brissett): Play Burrow; Brissett is nice for upside, but Burrow is the anchor ([49:12]).

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Notable Quotes

• [07:47] Jason:

  “Fantasy football is painful. This is normally when people quit for a bit.”

• [22:06] Jason (on Rhamondre):

  “New England still trying to win their division ... It’s a very significant opportunity coming back.”

• [31:20] Andy (on Taysom Hill):

  “My number one tight end pickup, as gross as it sounds, is Taysom Hill ... it feels like cheating.”

• [44:52] Andy (on commissioner scandal):

  “You cannot do anything in season without a league wide vote and everyone basically agreeing. Yeah, we should re-seed.”

• [46:09] Mike:

  “This person has revealed themselves. This is a turd ... a turd of a human.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Playoff/League Recaps: 01:32 – 04:54
• News & Injury Notes: 08:09 – 15:38
• NFL Playoff Motivations: 15:38 – 19:52
• Waiver Wire (RBs): 21:31 – 27:24
• Waiver Wire (WRs): 27:24 – 30:19
• Waiver Wire (TEs): 31:11 – 33:56
• Defense/Streamers: 34:02 – 36:49
• Quarterback Streamers: 36:52 – 41:00
• Mailbag (Commish stories and Listener Qs): 43:02 – 51:09

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Tone and Style

The hosts deliver their expert analysis with the same friendly, competitive, and self-deprecating banter that endears them to their audience. There's a strong camaraderie and a “we’re-in-this-together” feeling, balancing actionable fantasy advice with relatable storytelling.

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Summary Takeaway

If you’re setting your lineup for a championship—especially if you’re scraping the waiver wire or streaming positions—this episode is crucial listening. The Footballers break down every option by both statistical merit and the emotional realties of fantasy football’s wildest week. Plus, learn what not to do as a commissioner, and heed the advice that fantasy superstition might just be your best friend over championship weekend.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike]

Welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

Tuesday, December 23rd. It's almost Christmas. Some of you are moving on to your title games and some of you are Josh. Oh, man.

[Mike]

Oh, we had a man.

[Andy Holloway]

We had a clip from this show talking about how he was already in the championship.

[Jason Moore]

I so wish we had a zoom on this camera.

[Andy Holloway]

And it was. It was great because the guy who Josh was playing against, he clipped that out, put it in our. In our sleeper chat and it was great. So now, Mike, you get to play the team that we thought Josh couldn't lose to.

[Mike]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

What's wild is Papa Josh. I'm so sorry. And that hurts. It stings. I know you have no picks and you're like, future is just in jeopardy as a person. But you lost with Puka, right? Yeah, I lost with Puka this week to go to a title game against Mike. Like Puka over two in this office.

[Andy Holloway]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

One for two. There you go. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go.

[Jason Moore]

You no longer have to say Go Bears all the time. Al. That is correct. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike and I's Dino junior Team lost to Puka. So two for four.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah. I mean, Mike is moving on in our two main leagues. He will try to do what I could not do three years ago. The dream. The double championship dream.

[Andy Holloway]

And unfortunately, he is not moving on in three of our main leagues. He did not go through in our listener league. I am there, so I will be there with you.

[Mike]

Must defend our honor.

[Andy Holloway]

I will try foot gland to open up another spot for the listener league.

[Mike]

It's going to take some heavy lifting.

[Jason Moore]

Matt. Right? Is that who's in the championship game. He beat me in the first round, beat Mike in the second round and faces Jason in the third round.

[Andy Holloway]

They say it can't be done.

[Jason Moore]

This could be the most comprehensive, you know, like well earned spot in the Listener League ever. Or he could lose to Jason and another spot will open up for the Foot Clan which, you know, you guys decide who to root for out there.

[Andy Holloway]

I will root for myself.

[Jason Moore]

But you, you, you certainly will.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And you don't you have a streak in jeopardy here where like I do, leagues where you've made title games, you've somehow never lost a title game.

[Andy Holloway]

That is, that is a bona fide fact. I have never lost in a title game in my life.

[Jason Moore]

And sometimes you do that.

[Mike]

It feels bad.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes you make sure by just not getting there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. I mean I get our league of record. Yeah. I can't wait. Deserve. But yeah. The only time I've ever been this big of like an underdog from a, from a roster standpoint was actually a few years ago in the Listener League playing against the biggest loser who sent me all sorts of trash talking paraphernalia. Sent me a signed photograph of himself.

[Jason Moore]

How'd that work out?

[Andy Holloway]

Sent me white chocolate dipped Oreos. I think that he signed all sorts of stuff. It worked out.

[Jason Moore]

He signed the Oreos.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that wasn't. He wrote on the Oreos. That did not work out well for him in the championship game. Did work out well for him in the fact that he is now around and a friend.

[Mike]

He's around.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm just saying if he won that game there would be no relationship. None.

[Jason Moore]

Well, congratulations to those that moved on. It was a high scoring affair last night with huge implications. I saw some wild stories on the Twitter sphere. I saw. I had a friend, a friend of ours, Jason. Yeah, I know who ended up. They were losing by 0.8 and then the Brock Purdy interception flipped it to where they won and are moving on to the championship. We also had somebody which means that.

[Andy Holloway]

If it was Brock he was facing, means he was up by a kajillion. So he should win. The only thing that can't happen is Brock going 305. Yeah. Goes 305, scores a bajillion points and then he loses and then he wins. That's an incredible one.

[Jason Moore]

Another person was losing. And then the final Touch by Christian McCaffrey was from minus one yard and that won them the game. It was insane last night. If you had CMC or Kittle or Jennings or Purdy, you were dancing in the streets. Jonathan Taylor did get into the end zone. Nobody on this planet played Alec Pierce. But if you had.

[Mike]

If you had the.

[Jason Moore]

He was back.

[Mike]

Congratulations.

[Jason Moore]

Philip Rivers going from dink and dunk 44 year old to pretty darn competent quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Where was this 200 plus yards last week, Phil?

[Jason Moore]

He had a five year warm up. He needed to warm up a game. But 277 and two, it was.

[Mike]

The Seahawks are a better defense than San Francisco.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no pass rush on San Francisco.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it was a crazy week. We had somebody bench. Matthew Stafford was mocked for it from Thursday through Monday afternoon. And then they made the right call by playing Brock Purdy, who outscored Matthew Stafford. I mean, it's fantasy football at its best and worst NFL.

[Mike]

The 49ers versus Philip Rivers and the Colts 48 to 27.

[Jason Moore]

Amazing. And the game was. It was a game if the Colts.

[Andy Holloway]

Most of the game.

[Jason Moore]

One stop towards the end, giving Philip a chance.

[Mike]

Very fun game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. I mean it.

[Andy Holloway]

The first half like Philip Rivers looked like he couldn't be stopped. It was just like easy peasy dink and dunk.

[Jason Moore]

I want to be clear about a couple of things. One, it wasn't just Josh that lost. It was also the Falcon. They're co managers, so they lost together.

[Andy Holloway]

Honestly, I'm happier about Matt losing than Josh.

[Jason Moore]

Me too. The other thing I want to remind people is that like I just said all that stuff about this game and I was not in any way trying to talk about or mock Josh. But this is just fantasy football psychology. He ends up think he just says, keep twisting that knife. He thought that was all about his loss. I was just recapping the game, which was in fact about your loss. But yeah, fantasy football is painful. This is normally when people quit for a bit.

[Andy Holloway]

I quit.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. This is normal.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank goodness you heard it. He's out of here. Back your things.

[Jason Moore]

That means the Falcons, the only sole manager of that team.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, I was talking about his job. Were you talking about fantasy?

[Jason Moore]

Were you talking about fantasy?

[Andy Holloway]

We definitely want you to stick around in that league.

[Jason Moore]

Whoever does the cameras better. All right, let's talk some news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Jason Moore]

So this is a real concern here. Let' from the good to the bad. George Kittle left early with an ankle injury. I watched that replay a bunch of times before the press conference from George Kittle. The replay concerned me quite a bit because it was a situation where he tried to cut after the injury, he had tried to play through it and that ankle just gave way. It just had no strength. He looked like he was in pain. Afterwards he came and he talked about the injury. He said he believed he was hip drop tackled, which is like, I don't know. It feels like 98% of the ankle sprains in the NFL come from the hip drop tackle and broken legs. That's supposedly illegal but is never called.

[Mike]

They said they were going to.

[Jason Moore]

They lied.

[Mike]

Yeah, but I mean like every season, like here's our point of emphasis.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And safety of the game. Safety of the players. And they're. They're doing nothing about it.

[Jason Moore]

It must be a very difficult play to call.

[Andy Holloway]

They need to find people after the game. Like, you know, maybe they miss it live because it's difficult. But to avoid future. You know, if you find players afterwards for an illegal hip drop tackle, they're going to think about doing a hip drop tackle the next time that they're tackling someone.

[Jason Moore]

What about like an eye for an eye? Somebody gets to hip drop tackle them afterwards. Maybe they'd avoid it.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

But this. He doesn't think he has a high ankle sprain. He is not a doctor, but he doesn't think he has one. And he's had enough of them probably.

[Mike]

So it's the situation where you're hoping it's. They miss, he misses no games as opposed to three.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and it will still be in the back. No matter what happens progression wise this week, it's going to be in the back of your head during the week. If he plays because it's a Sunday night game against the Bears.

[Mike]

Extra. He's got extra time.

[Jason Moore]

He does have extra time.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he's got less time because I'm.

[Mike]

On a night compared to the Sunday afternoon.

[Jason Moore]

The problem is if it's game time decision, you're going to be in a real pickle and we're going to obviously talk through all of that. Do we have another Monday night game? We do this.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

What's the Monday night game?

[Mike]

It is the Falcons. Rams, if I'm not mistaken.

[Jason Moore]

So you, you, you could, you could dance, right? You could go with a Rams tight end or Tonjas. Yeah, I was gonna say McBasketball into the night. Tonjas. McBasketball. Tonjas.

[Andy Holloway]

McBasketball is not a bad alternative option. He's been good in the absence of George Kittle.

[Mike]

So Brock Purdy is playing very well.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you certainly hope the worst case scenario is kind of playing through it and then getting hurt again. So maybe you'll get some practices and it'll be feeling good. It is George Kittle, he has been hurt a lot. And so that is a little bit of. A little bit of fear going into the week. He's been such a vital part of fantasy championship teams. DK Metcalf, the official suspension, two games for the sideline altercation and far more significant for him, the suspension with conduct detrimental to the team or in this case the league. It voids 40 million in future guaranteed money. He is appealing the suspension. He made claims about there being certain things said that provoked the actions. Then more video came out.

[Andy Holloway]

Little did he know people were recording.

[Jason Moore]

We don't know if something happened outside.

[Mike]

Of the possible that things were said they weren't captured on camera.

[Jason Moore]

I thought that Chris Long on the Greenlight podcast had the best overall take about the situation where it's like, you know, two things can be true. Right. Like somebody could say something and deserve to get punched in the face for it. And you have to face the consequences for choosing to do that.

[Mike]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

But the consequences are severe.

[Mike]

That's a big one.

[Andy Holloway]

Not the suspension, but the fact that he voids his guaranteed money.

[Jason Moore]

And there's always the chance that depending on the circumstances, the team doesn't do that or whatever else goes on, we don't know. But he's going to hurt his team right now because he's going to be out for two games and they're going to have to play without him. Lamar Jackson, It's a significant contusion on the back. There was no other damage. It was a back bruise. He's considered day to day. We're talking waivers, streaming quarterbacks. You know, people had Lamar and Jordan Love, who's down with the concussion. There are even in this week decisions to be made at the quarterback position that can make a difference. I won championships with Alex Smith on a pivot going into the title because somebody got hurt and it works out, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely. I mean, I had been riding Marcus Mariota to the championship. I'm in that boat where I will have to scoop someone up off of waivers.

[Jason Moore]

You are the only person that said I have.

[Andy Holloway]

Mario's been pretty good.

[Jason Moore]

No, but the expression, I've been riding Marcus Mariota.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I had Jaden Daniels lost him. Then I had Mario to lost him. We'll see.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You made no other accommodations for that team?

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't need to. I had Marioto.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you. Josh Allen, day to day with a foot injury he suffered and had X rays on during the game. Against the Browns. Expected to play on Sunday against the Eagles. Gardner Minshew did not tear his acl, but he was placed on injured reserve. It was some sort of confusing fracture, a tibial something fracture.

[Andy Holloway]

It's so great because I saw some people be like, oh, it's not serious. And then some people go, this is super serious. Whatever.

[Jason Moore]

He's not an acl. Day to day for Kamani Vidal, he was injured. He did not have a lot of opportunities. So smooth Amari and Hampton looks primed to help in your championship week after having a nice week last last week. Week, week, week.

[Mike]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Week, week, week.

[Jason Moore]

Mariota did not practice but hasn't been ruled out. Rashi Rice still in the concussion protocol from all of the car accidents he keeps having on the field. Jordan Mason, J.J. mcCarthy didn't practice. Aaron Jones Ltd. And Almond Ross St. Brown did not practice with the knee. This is a big one. Dan Campbell is hopeful it's just irritation from yesterday's game, but they are a little bit concerned.

[Mike]

Yep. And we did recently just get a blurb that so. Not that we didn't know, but confirming that Travion Henderson is and K Shawn Booty, they're both in the concussion protocol.

[Jason Moore]

Which could mean big things for Ramon.

[Mike]

Dream Andre against the jets is on your opponent's team. Yeah, it's. He's gone. If Henderson is gone, Ramon Dre sometimes could win.

[Andy Holloway]

He's gonna. Yeah, he's gonna eat and sometimes knows how to eat.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes we leave stuff out about our league. Sometimes you guys say you want to hear about it. I will bring up the fact that Mike in the title game, in our league of record, you will be going for a league record for titles, which would make me sad, make us all sad, but.

[Mike]

Well, not all of us.

[Jason Moore]

The really wild thing about this is the player he is facing is a team that traded Mike Burrow and Chase at the deadline, kind of hedging against, you know, losing picks. Wanted to have draft picks and Mike traded just Jeff, Justin Jefferson away, which was the player that we thought might have a great end of the season. But then McCarthy didn't look good and now it might be Brosmer. So Mike will be facing Justin Jefferson. He will be facing his. With Brosmer, he will be facing one of the players he hates the most in Ramon Ray Stevenson. So, like, if Mike were to lose, the pain will be significant and you.

[Andy Holloway]

Know, the odds are low, but the entertainment would be sky high.

[Jason Moore]

That's it. And we did want to talk a little bit about NFL playoff scenarios and motivations this is the time of the year you want to be aware of it. This is why you have fantasy championship games in Week 17 and not 18. If you're in an 18 league, which some of you are, we're still going to be here next week helping you. Begrudgingly, I will say that.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Because we're done like normal people. And so we want you to be normal people, too.

[Jason Moore]

So we will. Every. Every year, it's a PSA to convince your commissioner, or if you are the commissioner, change it to week 17. You don't want an entire season worth of fun defined by teams that are benching players and not motivated to play. But going into week 17, if you look at the AFC, essentially, the good news is, is that basically everybody you care about cares about this week.

[Andy Holloway]

It's wonderful. That's rare.

[Jason Moore]

The five AFC teams that have clinched playoff spots, which are the Broncos, Patriots, Jaguars, Chargers and Bills, all still technically have a shot at the number one seed in the afc, which is wild. With two weeks left, obviously it'll be easier for others, but like Buffalo still, like, you know, they still have a shot to win. They don't have a. I should rephrase that. Not everybody has a shot at the number one seed overall. Right. But they have a chance to win the division or move up in seating to correct that. But like Buffalo, if they win and New England loses, they win the AFC east, for example. So there are. There are big opportunities here. Even in Week 18, the Broncos and Chargers could be playing for the division. So you still have the Steelers, the Texans, the Colts and the Ravens still in contention for playoff spots.

[Andy Holloway]

They have a chance. They got to get a little bit of luck and obviously have to win. But the Colts and Ravens are not eliminated.

[Jason Moore]

Both the Texans and Steelers are on the road. They both clinch with a win. But, you know, the. The other side of things, in the nfc, you have four of the five NFC teams that have clinched. They all have shots at the number one seed. That would be Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia and San Francisco. It seems likely that the.

[Andy Holloway]

Not Philadelphia.

[Jason Moore]

No, they could end up the number two or three. I'm sorry. And then the Rams are likely the fifth or sixth seed. That's pretty much situated. Carolina and Tampa will be fighting for their lives. Like, if Tampa wins out, I believe they win the division.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, because they've got another game against Carolina. So, I mean, Carolina winning out or Tampa winning out just assumes that they beat the other team. So it really comes down to that weakness, predominantly. But Tampa, I mean, that's that's one of the, that's like probably the most interesting playoff seating. Who gets in situation left and then.

[Jason Moore]

The Lions still have to win their final two games, have Green Bay lose, but they're alive there. So anybody really concern you?

[Mike]

I don't think anyone concerns me. The 49ers being able to if they went out through the number one seed, which is that is that not is that surprising? I feel like the 49ers have not been talked about in that where you're like, hey, the Rams are the favorites, you know, forever. The Rams in Seattle were the odds on favorites for weeks and weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

It's surprising because while they're playing good, they're a well coached team, they've got a lot of talent. I don't think they are seen as good as probably two other teams in their own division.

[Mike]

Right. But they could if they went out, they are the number one seed nfc.

[Andy Holloway]

But part of that, similar to the to the situation with Tampa is winning out includes a win over Seattle. So that would, I mean that's what would really do it is, you know, Seattle versus the 49ers. That's not super fantasy. That's week 18. But that one will be a monstrous game for fantasy playoffs or for NFL playoffs.

[Jason Moore]

All right. And all right, we'll move on. We we've got waivers today. We've got streaming quarterbacks today. We'll get into your questions if we have some time. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll jump right in. Thursday Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. Join Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreet and Kaylee Hartong this Thursday as the Denver Broncos take on the Kansas City Chiefs. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Broncos and Chiefs Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the waiverw.

[Jason Moore]

All righty, running backs. Guys, it's obviously Ramondre at the tippy top of this list.

[Mike]

He is the number one pickup of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

It's insane that he is pickupable. Like, it's just he's been a back that's had too much work on the season to be on waivers and he's not on the majority of waivers, but certainly enough like 57% rostered. That's what blows my mind. I would just be so in love with a player like that to go into championship week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, New England still trying to win their division and if they went out and Denver loses one game, I think they get the number one seed. Like it's all on the line. They obviously love Ramon Ray more than we do anyways. And then when Travion Henderson is dealing with the concussion, it's a very significant opportunity coming back.

[Mike]

Endo, come on, baby. We got to figure out. I feel like this year and maybe I'm just watching it closer. It's. It's really been the whiplash. You know, these guys handle wasn't pulled down very hard. It just the way he fell was, you know, the whiplash back of the head slams into the. Into the ground. I feel like those have been the concussions and those have been the ones where then guys miss. It's not where they're getting.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe they have fixed the old style of concussions with helmet technology which has. Which has amplified the rear hit. I don't know. But I agree with you. It's anecdotal. It's just what you've. What you've witnessing. But it does seem like so many of them are the hit the back of your head on the field on a tackle.

[Jason Moore]

Emmanuel Wilson, 48% rostered. Josh Jacobs supposedly not out due to injury, but has been managing the swelling in the knee.

[Mike]

That situation's so weird.

[Jason Moore]

He was 14 for 82 against Chicago. Has Baltimore Saturday night game. Jason no longer has to sit here and stress out.

[Andy Holloway]

Who cares?

[Jason Moore]

Doesn't have to stress out about it.

[Mike]

The people care.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason. Yeah, I mean, it seems very similar to the last several weeks where Josh Jacobs is dealing with pain in the knee. They've got to decide whether he can play through it or not. You know, tbd. He's played through it so far. Saturday Night game. You've got a. It's actually nice that it's. That it's Saturday because you'll have a little bit of update similar to this. Last week when they played on Saturday it was like, well, you've got time to pivot. Should he be ruled out as a game time?

[Mike]

Some. I mean we have three games on Christmas to remove players from the pool.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and that's one of the things that I wanted to bring up is it's like Emmanuel Wilson will get work no matter what. It doesn't matter Josh Jacobs, how healthy he is, he's going to be worked in. And then you have like lower ceiling starters like Michael Carter.

[Mike]

It's the Bengals, which looks good, but.

[Andy Holloway]

The Falcons looked good too last year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean it's just my. At the end of the day it's Michael Carter.

[Mike]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

And so it's. That's a tough. Do you take committee on a better team that you know is going to run the football a lot? They may not have Jordan love that is even more of an emphasis on the running game with Malik Willis or do you go with the, you know, man. Emmanuel Wilson had three more carries than Michael Carter did. Michael Carter started and it was a good matchup. So they.

[Andy Holloway]

Michael Carter was fine. I mean he was 11 for 65, ran for 5.9 a carry. And against the Bengals defense, I think I would lean the Michael Carter direction.

[Mike]

I think so too.

[Jason Moore]

The Chris Rodriguez start looks good as well. It's an opportunity for him against Dallas on Christmas. I think he's pretty interesting. He was in week 16, 15 for 63 and a touchdown. So do you feel good about Carter, Rodriguez more?

[Mike]

Krosky did have a touchdown against Philadelphia on the ground. He only played on 20% of the snaps. So it was I think just kind of a fortunate timing situation for him. The Mariota does make a difference if he ends up being the quarterback over Josh Johnson. I think. Eileen, the Carter side.

[Jason Moore]

What are some other names at the running back position that you would.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Blake Corum is. He's still available in about 40% of leagues and he is a guy that you can start right off the bat. I mean he's. You look at the last month and he's scored 14 points, 25 points, 13 points and 13 points. It's like this is a player that you can put in there and then you do have. I know it would be lucky, crazy happening mid game. But you also have the opportunity when you're starting any player like that. Should something happen mid Game. You know, to Kyron, all of a sudden it's a monstrous, you know, the opportunity here against Atlanta. You are over touchdown favorites at home. He's scored a touchdown or more in the last four games straight. I think Blake Corum is someone that's. It's taken me a while to be like, yeah, you know, you can start him while Kyron is still great in his own right.

[Mike]

And then the kind of mystery situation, the mystery box of the weekend is the Cleveland Browns. You have the really unfortunate injury to Quinch on Judkins, who will be the quarterback or the running back. Sorry. For the Browns against Pittsburgh, Dylan Sampson has been out the past two weeks. Two weeks ago it was a calf and hand injury. This week it was labeled as a hand injury. We need more information on that obviously. But Raheem Sanders would be a nasty boy. Who is up Next. He was 11 for 42 against Buffalo.

[Jason Moore]

There's also Travion Williams in that game too. Is that right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, that is correct.

[Jason Moore]

Both of them got some run. Wide receiver wise are you chasing the Parker Washington performance? 6 for 145 and 110 targets. He's done this many times this year where the game plan just becomes a Parker Washington game plan. But since the bye week, wide receiver 2016, 12 and three and then three kind of disappearing acts but always getting some targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's interesting. And the matchup against Indianapolis is very good. We saw that this week with Brock Purdy. It's tough because this last week, yeah, this was a Parker Washington week. But that came at the expense of Brian Thomas Jr. You know, did nothing. The new money man over there did nothing. So Parker could be the guy that's last man out. Honestly, I think probably a better pickup. It's hard to say better pickup because.

[Mike]

Let me for Parker Washington, just a reminder of he's, you know to. He. He's been active in the two previous games. The week before that though, against the Colts he was out with the hip injury. So while his snaps after the bye week, you know, he was running in the mid-80s, gets hurt in week 13, misses the next week and then it's kind of been a ramp up.

[Jason Moore]

So it also was missing BTJ for some of those early games.

[Mike]

So it's a. I don't know for sure if you should expect 56% of the snaps or more for Parker Washington, but he is at least interesting of. I mean Brock Purdy against this colts team just threw 305, you know and Trevor Lawrence is playing incredible football. He's he is a dart, a worthy dart throw. Like I wouldn't feel super confident putting him in my lineup but I would also at the same time, if I saw someone at Parker Washington in their lineup, I'd be bit nervous about it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he, he is my number one pickup this week. Parker Washington wide receiver. But I would throw two other guys out there that are close in. Mac Collins and Adnai Mitchell. Mac Hollins is kind of. You need the booty has to stay concussed essentially for Matt Collins to be worthy to throw into a championship roster. And then Adonai Mitchell, he's been pretty good. The quarterback play there is obviously the massive. Relying on a Jets quarterback at this point in the season. It doesn't feel good. But you know they're going to have to keep throwing the ball against New England and he is their. Their number one wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And then other names that you care about this week. If you were in a pinch, I.

[Mike]

Mean Josh Downs performed. Performed admirably. Nine targets, five for 65. They were running on far more 11 personnel this past week. So he was getting on the field.

[Jason Moore]

Is Alec Pierce not on here because of roster percentage?

[Mike]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I wondered if.

[Mike]

I'll go double check that.

[Jason Moore]

I wonder if people had dropped him because of the Philip Rivers acquisition.

[Mike]

It's very possible because I think I.

[Jason Moore]

Would take Pierce over Dallas just for those bigger plays.

[Mike]

Pierce is 60% on rostered on sleeper.

[Jason Moore]

That's right around that range.

[Mike]

So. But he might be there. You can double check.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's going to be. It's going to be a wild week if you need to fill in a spot due to injury. Jaden Higgins didn't really get much done. I don't think I'd be taking my shot on him or Adonai Mitchell because of Brady Cook, who they confirmed is the starter for New York for the final week. So that's going to be a heyday for the New England.

[Mike]

The New England DST is out there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike]

So the Saints just did.

[Jason Moore]

Saw what Britain Strange just did.

[Mike]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Five for 39 and a touchdown. He ran more routes than Parker Washington did. So that's. That's a big play at the tight end position.

[Andy Holloway]

I think my number one tight end pickup, as gross as it sounds, is Taysom Hill.

[Jason Moore]

Is it?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Taysom Hill, you know, assuming that Camara is still out.

[Jason Moore]

He is always out.

[Andy Holloway]

Devin Neal is on ir. Taysom Hill can throw a touchdown. He can rush a touchdown. I mean, I know, you know, we got. He was.

[Jason Moore]

He can catch a touchdown. Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

He can make the.

[Mike]

Throw it to himself.

[Andy Holloway]

You know the opportunities this last year.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Like, without it touching anybody. Could you just throw it way up in the air and then go down and catch it?

[Mike]

Oh, that's.

[Andy Holloway]

Would it count as a pass attempt and a reception or just like. Because if you bobble the ball, you know.

[Jason Moore]

What do you mean?

[Mike]

Are the rules about that? If you throw it and you catch it with.

[Jason Moore]

Because I mean, I used to do that in the backyard all the time. You throw it up and then you go catch it.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, I feel. I'm going to be honest, I feel like NFL defenders, they would get there. I don't think you could throw it.

[Mike]

Kyle says a quarterback cannot throw a forward pass to themselves without a tip. Okay, well, that's boring.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike]

I mean, who cares?

[Jason Moore]

That's probably not going to happen.

[Mike]

Rule out. Let him try.

[Andy Holloway]

But last week, I mean you had. You had 12 rushing attempts for. 12 rushing attempts is like that's a decent number for a running back. Goal line attempts. It's probably going to be. You know, we thought it was going to be estimated because Taysom Hill had been deleted from this offense, but with the injuries at running back, they brought Taysum Hill back in. This is a matchup against Tennessee. I mean, he had four catches and 12 rush attempts. So at the tight end position, it feels like cheating.

[Mike]

It's. Man, it makes so much sense. But that would be terrifying. I mean they've had running back injuries.

[Jason Moore]

All year if I didn't have strange. I think I'm with Jason on that chance in a championship week because it was effective. They won the game handily. They're playing Tennessee. You've got. I don't know. I think I do that over like the dependency I would have on Waller with Quinn Ewers. Right. Or Ton just getting worked into the game flow.

[Andy Holloway]

Ton just would be a good pickup to me only for the George Kittle manager. What he represents without George Kittle is not worth like taking a shot. Not know like if I'm needing a tight end in general, I'm not going after Tonjas hoping that Kittle is out.

[Jason Moore]

I think that's kind of. I mean, A.J. barner was 4 for 49 and a touchdown. He's always a touchdown opportunity. But I think that's kind of it for tight ends, isn't it?

[Mike]

Yeah, yeah, it really is.

[Jason Moore]

We said it defensively, the Patriots, there's.

[Andy Holloway]

So many good defense.

[Jason Moore]

Brady Cook got sacked eight times.

[Andy Holloway]

He did. The Lions get to play against Mac Brosmer. That's really Fun. The Saints defense has been very good. They're going on the road against Tennessee. The Cam Ward has looked, you know, better and better, but he still takes a lot of sacks from all except the San Francisco 49ers.

[Jason Moore]

Because you played them, correct? Yeah, it just hasn't been an amazing start to play teams against Tennessee lately. That's the third time. Yeah, that's the third time that they look like a perfect start for people to play and they scored enough points. Cleveland, Cleveland was not a good start against them. So yeah, New England, Detroit, the Saints, the Broncos obviously are heavily rostered. Jacksonville against Indy felt a little bit better about that before this performance by Philip Rivers.

[Mike]

So then do you.

[Jason Moore]

Indianapolis. So it's like that's, that's lower on the list now.

[Mike]

Yeah, the Jags are just. The Jags are a Super bowl defense to me. And then how do you feel about Tampa against Quinn? Oh, yeah, like the Tampa Bay defense is kind of whatever, but.

[Andy Holloway]

But I love playing against.

[Mike]

There's round rookies.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, exactly. There's a difference between. Okay, Cam Ward has started all year, he's a rookie, but he was the number one pick in the draft. We're at the end of his rookie season where he's playing the best that he's played so far versus the seventh round, sixth round type of rookies. The perennial veteran backups that are thrust into positions with injuries or benching ahead of them. Those are the guys this time of year. I really want defenses playing against these hot trash quarterbacks. That's the recipe for success.

[Jason Moore]

I can tell you right now. I think my almost upset is going to be Indianapolis winning that game at home against Jacksonville.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

Divisional games are always, especially between those two teams. If you remember long ago, you know, Andy was the perennial every year winner of that division. Jacksonville would be at the basement and those games would be two point games. I, I think at home might be pretty interesting for Philip Rivers. Last night's game, they, they were in it and they really would have been in it more if they're special teams with that fumble didn't set them behind the eight ball to start the game. I mean it was. I could just. I don't know. After beating Denver, things are little let down. Things are really going good for Jacksonville. That's my initial thought there. But you can see all of the waiver wire rankings, other names as well and all of these positions. If you go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com we want to get you ready for title time and we'll talk some quarterbacks as well because the need might be out there.

[Andy Holloway]

It's real.

[Mike Wright]

Full stream ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'll kick us off because Andy was just talking about this as his almost upset because maybe Philip Rivers can move the ball and score enough on the Jacksonville Jaguars defense.

[Mike]

But Trevor Lawrence, who is somehow blew my mind available.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he was 51% rostered where I was like, what? He's the quarterback? Four on the season since the buy he's the quarterback. Two he's been on fire. But I understand it in the sense that he was on the road against the Broncos. People were like, well if I'm not going to play him, maybe cut him. Look for your waiver wire in Indianapolis. I don't know if you watched the game last night, but Brock Purdy was okay. Papa Josh, would you say Brock Purdy was pretty good against the Colts last night?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he did.

[Andy Holloway]

He did okay. Yeah, he did to you. So I would take Trevor Lawrence in that same matchup.

[Jason Moore]

I think it goes Jason's mics in mine in the streaming quarterback. Oh really?

[Mike]

You'd go so I'm bringing up shuck, baby. What's the song? Andy gonna get shucked tonight. Look, I think he's good.

[Andy Holloway]

This is who I believe I'm playing against.

[Mike]

I think he might be good. And he's playing Tennessee's the QB8 over the last month with a floor of 18 points. So even when he wasn't in the top 12 he's still giving you 18. Should you be one of these teams where like I have no quarterback to play and Tennessee over the last five weeks 27th and schedule adjusted points to the quarterback position. Like even though Cam Ward is Cam Ward's playing better that might be even better for Tyler Shock. Let's get a competitive game going.

[Jason Moore]

You can go back to the well with Jacoby Brissette. This yes you want.

[Mike]

Yes you can.

[Jason Moore]

Over under of the week I have noticed the Cardinals are finally starting to not play hard for this loser of a head coach.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, what a number two.

[Jason Moore]

You saw it on some of the routes even by Michael Wilson who gave up on one of the routes that an interception happened. You have Marvin Harrison disinterested in everything at Cardinals also just lost like tremendous defenders to long term injuries including starting cornerback Garrett Williams to torn Achilles Walter Nolan IR Achilles knee injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh really?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Oh, that got updated.

[Jason Moore]

It should be knee injury.

[Mike]

I thought I saw Achilles.

[Andy Holloway]

I definitely saw that. Poof.

[Jason Moore]

I hope well you I saw knee.

[Andy Holloway]

So I've seen both but they're different.

[Jason Moore]

Parts of the Body.

[Andy Holloway]

They are very different.

[Jason Moore]

It says knee injury according to what I'm looking at right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Carded off with knee injury.

[Andy Holloway]

Non contact knee injury.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Which is better.

[Mike]

Long term. It is. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So highest over, under the week. Jacoby can get it going again. You know, the past attempts will be crazy. This game in and of itself is going to be wild. Arizona is averaging 38 pass attempts per game. Cincinnati 37, 53 1/2 point over under. Did you fist pump Mike?

[Mike]

No, that was.

[Jason Moore]

I thought that was you fist pump.

[Mike]

No, no, that was me clearing my throat.

[Andy Holloway]

Burrow.

[Jason Moore]

Burrow. I will.

[Mike]

I will fist pump. Playing all of the Cincinnati Bengals.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. The.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Guess. Guess who I guess who I have to play against in the championship and listener league. Mike. Who's that? Chase Brown.

[Mike]

Oh, you remember that guy who just.

[Andy Holloway]

Murdered my soul in league of record.

[Jason Moore]

He will do it again.

[Andy Holloway]

I. Yeah, he will do it again. I'm just going to say this. I hate Chase Brown. Nothing personal.

[Mike]

Talking about my guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike]

Winning leagues.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that. That's funny. You've got. Mike's got triple Cincinnati dependency and it should work out really, really well against Arizona. Where's that game at?

[Mike]

It's in Arizona. No, I thought it was in Arizona.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be even better.

[Mike]

I mean, of the controlled environment. Oh, no, it's. It's in Cincinnati. I apologize. Jason was right.

[Jason Moore]

All right. I always apologize when Jason's.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh, what's the weather?

[Jason Moore]

I knew it. I knew it was coming. In your mind. Weather's gonna be a story, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Potentially slight chance of rain, 11 mile an hour, winds 50 degrees. We're.

[Mike]

No, we'll take that.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, because the weather guy's always right on Tuesday. That's what they're known for. A week ahead.

[Mike]

They can be.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness. We'll take a break. We'll do some mailbag.

[Mike]

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[Mike Wright]

Mailbag.

[Jason Moore]

All right. If you got a question, we got answers. You can find us over on twitter @the ffballers. You can click the submit a question button on the website the fantasy footballers.com. you can leave us a voicemail. 302464, TFFB. First question from Jake in Texas.

[Andy Holloway]

This is great.

[Jason Moore]

I made it. Did you read it? Yeah, I haven't read it. I made it to the championship in one of my leagues. And since everyone knows I'm extremely superstitious, most of the league has changed their team names to your fantasy king and updated their logos to different pictures of me. Any ideas on how to break the league wide jinx?

[Andy Holloway]

You got to join them.

[Mike]

Yeah, I think that's an easy to.

[Andy Holloway]

You change your name to your fantasy king and you put your favorite picture of yourself up there and you accept it.

[Mike]

You.

[Andy Holloway]

You, you accept this. You're a superstitious man. Turn it from a jinx into, you know, a blessing.

[Jason Moore]

I. I remember long, a long time ago, Mike and I had faced each other in three consecutive championships.

[Andy Holloway]

Those were the dark days. Those were the dark ages for Jason, for everyone else.

[Jason Moore]

And I remember I. Every week I would change my team's logo to like, a really nice picture of Mike's best player.

[Mike]

And you would like, do an animated gif and it'd be all shiny.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I did that, like, for every team I faced. And it worked until I. And then it didn't work anymore. But you got to lean. I like that idea. Ray in Boston, writing in my commissioner, made a change to our playoff structure at 7pm on Sunday, 21 December to receding, causing me to lose this week's matchup. Should this be allowed? Is this an all time commissioner foul or am I overreacting?

[Andy Holloway]

Depends on.

[Jason Moore]

Love the show, hate this league now.

[Andy Holloway]

Depends on the league. This league is established as a dictatorship and this was because this was before.

[Jason Moore]

I don't agree with that at all.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'm just saying sometimes leagues are like, hey, I am saying this is what our rule is for the playoffs. We're going to recede. If that's how the league is always run, then whatever. Don't be in that league. If you don't want to play with in one of those outside of that one very specific and very rare world. This is an all time. No, no. You cannot. You cannot do anything in season without a league wide vote and everyone basically agreeing. Yeah, we should recede.

[Mike]

I. If the commissioner just said I am the king, I'm doing this. But you did it before the playoffs started. I can live with that decision over here. It's like, okay, everyone knows no one has played a playoff game yet, but we're going to recede to do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Two days ago in the middle of the playoffs.

[Mike]

To do it in the middle of the playoffs is incredibly suspicious and seems like a commissioner saw an opportunity to get a better matchup.

[Jason Moore]

Did you say 7pm Sunday?

[Andy Holloway]

Wait, you can't do that. That's after games have.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, wait, what? I mean it would be one. Oh my gosh.

[Mike]

No, this is.

[Andy Holloway]

It would be.

[Jason Moore]

Hold on. It would be even 1 degree less bad if it happened on Tuesday, last week before the semifinal matchups. Yeah, it's. Whatever.

[Mike]

They're already competing.

[Jason Moore]

That's why. See what he said? Causing me to lose this week's matchup. So you were in a matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to undo it.

[Jason Moore]

I got a drop for you, commissioner.

[Mike]

Number two, Ray in Boston foul. I leave that league. Hey man, I am so sorry that you invested the entire year. You were excited for this league. You have received. You got to go glass half full here of you. This person has revealed themselves. Yeah, you. This is. This is a turd. Yeah, this is a turd of a human.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't drink that glass.

[Jason Moore]

Can you imagine?

[Mike]

Just get out of here.

[Jason Moore]

Play this out like you guys are. You're in the middle of. Remember 7pm Sunday. So this is after Sunday night games or during them.

[Andy Holloway]

This is after the. Imagine your matchup this week, the packers game. The Packers. Bears.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I would have loved this to happen in our listener league because I would have Been in the championship game. Just, just that's what I'm going to do as a commissioner. If it's not working out, I'm going to flip the matchups.

[Mike]

I mean you every week you could have done this in league. In the league of record. I would have won regardless.

[Jason Moore]

I. Well, you scored 209 points.

[Andy Holloway]

You set the all time record. Right? Is that correct?

[Mike]

Of since we've moved to the sleeper platform.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. That is insane.

[Jason Moore]

Did you look that up?

[Mike]

No, actually yeah there was. It was being discussed. Matt.

[Jason Moore]

Matt pulled up our league history and you. I was previously crowned and Mike took my crown. Bench Jalen Warren.

[Mike]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What if 20 points, 35 on your bench.

[Jason Moore]

I just hope you save some.

[Andy Holloway]

He did.

[Mike]

His team is so good. I hope I did too. George, ice up.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Kittle. Yeah. I don't know. Every time you say George is Pickens to me.

[Mike]

Oh, Pro Bowler, by the way, I don't know if you guys saw that.

[Jason Moore]

George Pickens.

[Mike]

George Pickens.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Very well deserved Pro Bowler this morning.

[Jason Moore]

Drake May, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert at quarterback in the afc.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a good group.

[Jason Moore]

Just Sam Darnold one of the three Pro Bowler NFC quarterbacks. George Pickens, Matthew Stafford.

[Mike]

Sam Darnold, George Pickens. Character problems for Pittsburgh.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I know, I know. That was the first thing I thought was like Pickens could a Pro bowl wide receiver. Pickett's gonna hit someone and their guy.

[Mike]

That they picked just might have had his money voided. That is horrific irony.

[Jason Moore]

The combat. I've noticed watching Pittsburgh games and one of the reasons I think we've had a hard time and everyone listening they always think we're against Pittsburgh because they beat us in the super bowl. Which is right. But man, the combined grimaces of the Tomlin plus Rogers permagrimis. Perma angry. I mean these guys hate football. That's what it. That's the way it feels.

[Andy Holloway]

Tomlin loves football.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you still defend Tomlin forever.

[Mike]

He's a great Kind of hard not to. They're gonna.

[Jason Moore]

I mean some things went smile between those two guys every week. Goodness gracious.

[Mike]

Well, I mean Bill Belichick didn't really ever smile.

[Jason Moore]

No. And he's a loser.

[Mike]

Well, we did. I guess he has revealed himself as well.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, I mean Andrew in New York City. Joe Burrow or Jacoby Brissette for the title. Same game. Think you play burrow there guys.

[Mike]

Yep, I'd go burrow.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, definitely. It's you just Brissette also has a good game because you want that game to be very, very fun.

[Mike]

I would like a fourth quarter, please.

[Andy Holloway]

No, you don't. You don't want a fourth quarter. If they sit.

[Jason Moore]

You know what?

[Mike]

You know what?

[Jason Moore]

You don't want to.

[Mike]

I'll take the 40 points without a fourth quarter. You are right.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Logan in Greenville, South Carolina in a double flex championship game. I have Tyron and Corum. Given the favorable matchup against Atlanta, would you start both? I'd be fine with it. I would be totally fine with it.

[Mike]

I don't know what your other options are.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's what makes the question impossible.

[Mike]

But if you had to do this because you're just like, no, it's just doo doo that I could start, then maybe. Maybe he'll claim a lot of the.

[Jason Moore]

Running back and nice. That will be every time they're on the goal line.

[Mike]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. I mean, right now it's full. If Devonte Adams is out. Yeah, that was. With Devonte Adams there. You're like, oh, man, don't do it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And he's not going to play.

[Mike]

No, he's not.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we have a big show tomorrow. Just so you guys know what the schedule is like the next couple of weeks with the holidays. Christmas is Thursday. We do have a show tomorrow on Christmas Eve. It will include all the content from Wednesday and Thursday. Be a little mini Christmas. Christmas. It'll have backup options, starts of the week, all of our matchups for the Christmas day games and the Saturday games. We'll take Thursday off for Christmas and we will have a Friday show as championship week. So we do not want to let you down. We will have all the Sunday games on Friday. We'll have the Fantasy Face off and a glorious Wheel of Shame.

[Andy Holloway]

Because it's not you, it's not me.

[Jason Moore]

This week, which feels so great, but. And then next week for New year's, for week 18, we'll be here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We'll get through all the normal content.

[Mike]

That one's a real mega.

[Jason Moore]

That's the true mega on Wednesday. Thank you, Mike. New Year. The Last mega of 20. 25. 25. And so that'll be. And then we'll have Friday, Thursday. Friday won't have new shows. So there'll be a Megalodon next Wednesday. So we'll be here for you. Week 18, nurse. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

[Mike]

No, no, I got there. At first I heard nerds.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike]

And then I was like, oh, he didn't say that. And then I said, oh, he called him wieners.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It did sound more like that. Which.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Take that week 18ers. All right, that is going to do it for today's episode. Thank you for joining us. JoinTheFoot.com is the fantasy football community. We're here year round. Become a Foot clan member and hang out with us. Bonus episodes all off season. We'll catch you tomorrow.

[Mike]

Goodbye.

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