Week 2 Studs & Duds + True DAWGS! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/15

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast — Episode Summary

Episode: Week 2 Studs & Duds + True DAWGS!
Date: September 15, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Main Theme

The hosts dive into Week 2’s wild ride—sorting through the breakout stars (“studs”), major disappointments (“duds”), early-season overreactions, and the evolving landscape after injuries and depth chart surprises. Emphasis is on the need for patience, data-gathering, and reacting appropriately to pendulum-swing performances, not just box scores.

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Episode Highlights & Key Discussion Points

Week 2: Reality Check & Data Gathering

• The hosts stress not to overreact to early-season performances and instead view this period as valuable data collection.
  • Andy Holloway [02:19]: “There were a lot of, you know, pendulum swings. … This is data gathering time and we don’t want to accept it. … We're learning about defenses. ...The reality for a lot of these players is not week one, it’s not week two. It’s somewhere in between.”

Quarterback Trends & Trouble Spots

• Jalen Hurts’ early-season passing struggles (only 2 completions >10 air yards in two games), yet the Eagles are 2-0 based on dominant defense/run game.

  • Andy Holloway [04:17]: "Jalen Hurts has two completions of 10-plus air yards in two games, two victories."
  • Philly’s “tush push” is effective but controversial; hosts predict it may be banned next season [05:02-05:50].

• Joe Burrow Injury Fallout

  • Burrow suffered grade 3 turf toe, requiring surgery—season likely over. Deep impact on Bengals' fantasy weapons.
    • Andy Holloway [11:30]: “Joe Burrow suffered a grade three turf toe injury. ...it will require surgery...”
    • Jake Browning will take over; hosts characterize him as a “quality backup” but not a fantasy difference-maker for Chase, Higgins, or Chase Brown.

• Justin Fields (concussion, ineffectiveness) and the Bears, plus questions about Steelers’ and Bills’ defenses after oddball results.

DAWG vs. “Meow” Segment: Player Toughness

• Jason introduces a “dog vs. meow” (toughness vs. softness) lens on player evaluation.
  • Jason Moore [07:08]: “Either you’re tough, you’re the dog, you got it…or meow, get out of my life.”

Studs, Duds, and Pendulum Players

Top Stud Performances (with timestamps)

• Jared Goff: 330 yards, 5 TDs.

  • Jason Moore [21:25]: “I did not see a world where Jared Goff was going to go 330 yards and five passing touchdowns...”

• Russell Wilson: League leader in passing yards through 2 weeks, big bounce-back

  • Jason Moore [22:19]: “It was an incredible day for Russ...”

• Running Back Standouts:

  • Jonathan Taylor: #1 RB performance (multiple scores, huge yardage).
  • James Cook: Explosive, showed big-play ability, now RB1 overall.
    • Mike Wright [30:24]: “James Cook is the running back one through two weeks…that run from James Cook…I mean…like a triple jump cut, 40+ [yards]…”
  • Bijan Robinson: Volume returns; 22-143, total bellcow usage.
    • Andy Holloway [34:38]: “22 for 143 and looked insane. Just out of this world.”
  • Kenneth Walker: Huge bounce-back vs. PIT, outplayed backfield mate Charbonnet.
  • Chuba Hubbard: Another receiving touchdown late, backdoor RB finish.

• WR Studs:

  • Amon-Ra St. Brown: Monster week, 3 TDs in creative roles.
  • Malik Nabers, Jamar Chase, Troy Franklin: Strong volume and production.

• Tight Ends:

  • Zach Ertz, Juwan Johnson: Unheralded but leading the position in targets.

Early-Season Duds & Dilemma Players

• A.J. Brown, Brian Thomas Jr., Drake London:

  • All underwhelming for the second straight week; discussion about whether to trade, hold, or buy low.
    • Andy Holloway [56:41]: “There’s a little bit of a disinterested feel to what I saw from A.J. Brown…”
    • Hosts ultimately prefer Brian Thomas due to target share, suggesting a swap could benefit both sides.
    • Andy Holloway [58:37]: “I would do it [trade] for the same reasons…targets, targets are king. Brian Thomas Jr. is going to be a squeaky wheel, he’s younger...”

• Marvin Harrison Jr.: Cautioned against “offseason hype”

  • Andy Holloway [60:44]: “I want to see a player that looks, I don’t know, 10% as good as Malik Nabers…Marv is good, not great. That is exactly what he’s been through his entire career so far.”

• Running Back Woes:

  • Derrick Henry: Complete shut-down.
  • Breece Hall, Chase Brown, Zach Charbonnet, Isaiah Pacheco: Called out for inefficiency, changing situations, or vanishing usage.
    • Mike Wright [52:43]: “Pacheco is unstartable. … He is in a full timeshare and he is not producing. I would be putting him on the bench.”

• Quarterbacks Regretted:

  • Andy Holloway [46:07]: “Why did I believe in Justin [Fields]? Why did I believe that performance?”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Jason’s Take on Tush Push:
  Jason Moore [05:05]: “Take it easy, man. I’m trying to support you and you’re just over here like…we’ll just do it every play now and we will false start all the time and get away with it.”

• Mike’s Victory Lap/Reality Check:
  Mike Wright [30:25]: “He’s the running back one through two weeks…” Andy Holloway [34:38]: “22 for 143 and looked insane. I mean, just out of this world,” (on Bijan).

• Andy’s Hype Deflation:
  Andy Holloway [60:44]: “I want to see a player that looks, I don’t know, 10% as good as Malik Nabers. …Marv is good, not great. …Not a fantasy football superstar right now.”

• Dog vs. Meow Drop:
  Mike Wright [37:31]: “Be a dog. We don’t need no meow cats. We don’t need no meow. We don’t need no cats.”

• On Streaming/Trusting QBs
  Andy Holloway [27:07]: “The real answer is you're going to be bouncing around to these guys...I’ll be looking at Daniel Jones. …I might play matchups between Kyler and Daniel Jones if I grab him.”

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Timestamped Segment Guide

• 01:33–04:31: Week 2 overreactions & “pendulum swings”
• 04:31–06:14: Eagles’ offense state, Jalen Hurts profile, tush push debates
• 07:08–08:13: “True DAWGS!”—Player toughness, DAWG vs. Meow analogy
• 11:30–15:12: Joe Burrow turf toe injury analysis & fallout for Bengals
• 16:00–17:16: Justin Fields, Bears’ ineptitude, broader team trends
• 17:31–19:32: Major injury updates: Aaron Jones, Austin Ekeler, Christian Kirk, Brock Bowers
• 21:14–26:20: Stud QBs (Goff, Wilson) + Daniel Jones discussion and streaming talk
• 29:36–34:01: RBs: Top performers (Taylor, Cook, Bijan, Walker, Chuba, McCaffrey, etc.)
• 38:38–41:35: WRs: Top performances, biggest surprises and disappointments
• 41:35–43:20: TEs: Ertz, Johnson, Laporta, Hockenson, Andrews woes
• 45:01–54:06: Duds: Major busts, context, and actionable advice (Fields, Henry, Brown, Charbonnet, etc.)
• 56:41–59:53: WR Panic Meter: A.J. Brown, Brian Thomas, Drake London, Marvin Harrison, others
• 64:30–69:18: Shaky tight end landscape, searching for a weekly floor, waiver stashes

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Takeaways and Advice

• Don’t Overreact! Early weeks are volatile; your player’s true role and value often lies between the extremes of the first two weeks.
• Riding Hot Hand/DAWG Mentality: Monitor which players/coaches show “dog” traits—toughness, reliability, high usage. This is a key theme of the episode.
• Injury Fallout: Bengals' weapons take a major hit; Joe Burrow likely gone for the season. Chase and Higgins are still playable but have lower ceilings under Jake Browning.
• Committee Backfields: Pacheco and Charbonnet are classic cautionary tales—volume and role swing week-to-week.
• Wide Receiver Market: AJ Brown, Brian Thomas Jr., and Drake London are panic/hold/trade conundrums: targets are key, and volume may ultimately win out.
• Tight End Turmoil: If stuck with underperformers (Hockenson, Andrews), consider streaming or targeting team’s emerging volume plays like Zach Ertz or Juwan Johnson.
• Stream Wisely: Don’t force a breakout QB (e.g., J.J. McCarthy) over solid options—play matchups and ride the hot hand.

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Memorable Moments

• DAWG vs. Meow—“Dog” players = tough, high character, high usage; “Meow” = soft, unreliable.
• Punday Mondays: Puns and light-hearted banter on player names start the show’s “good” mood.
• Dynasty and Redraft Strategy Updates: Lots of actionable advice on navigating panic drops and waiver priorities after a tumultuous week.
• Old Man Yells at Clouds: Running joke about Mike’s evolving “grumpy veteran football man” persona.

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Final Quote (Encapsulates the Episode)

Andy Holloway [02:19]:
"We have a lot to react to this week. And we have studs and duds on the show. NFL News to catch you up on huge injury news and implications…react to the weekend in the most sophisticated way possible: like two dogs."

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For More

Don’t miss their waiver wire-focused show dropping tomorrow—and keep using the data, not just the vibes, to win your league.

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Foot Clan, remember: It’s early. Be smart, stay patient, and go find your dawgs.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in Monday, September 15th, the fantasy footballers. Mike the fantasy hitman, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway. Welcome into the show. Week two nearly complete. Although we do have a double header tonight.

[Jason Moore]

Week two. Week two, got me good guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Week two, reality check.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean I saw him with the Eagles and then there were a lot of.

[Jason Moore]

Now we're just walking on the ground with the snails.

[Andy Holloway]

There were a lot of, you know, like pendulum swings. Yeah, Week two, which is, you know, I kind of posted something this morning. It's like this is data gathering time and we don't want to accept it. We would like to draw conclusions. I can tell you I would love to victory lap. Things probably have, probably shouldn't.

[Mike Wright]

Some things you can.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, one thing, one thing, one thing in particular. Can we get.

[Mike Wright]

Thornton, baby?

[Jason Moore]

He gets the music.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, actually, I thought I was going to get the lights. I was looking for it all, but no, I can Victory Lab that okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he scored a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

It's not really that impressive though, when, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I, I, I, I'm going to be fair. I need to apologize publicly. I said 42 yard touchdown and it was 49. Yeah, yep, it was 49. And that is my bad.

[Jason Moore]

You should be embarrassed.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, dummy.

[Andy Holloway]

See you guys. You entrap me right into a victory celebration. But really, we're gathering data. I mean a lot of the best tools of the foot clan, you Know, the ultimate dashboard. All of the things that we have, they don't even go live until three or four weeks worth of data. We're learning about defenses. We're learning. I mean, you had Derek Henry was the best player in football in week one, and then in week two, he was shut down. He, Josh Allen scored 48, 50 points. Week two, he scored like 11. You know, Jalen Hurts scored three points in a victory.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Although the week one wide receiver busts like Jamar Chase and Almond Ross St. Brown were like, oh, no, we're actually really good at football. And then there's A.J. brown.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You know what the most frightening stat was? Was 1. I read this morning.

[Mike Wright]

I know what the most frightening stat is for me, which is the Eagles are two. And.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that is very, very frightening.

[Jason Moore]

And without a passing touchdown, if I am not mistaken, Jalen Hurts. Right?

[Andy Holloway]

You ready for this? Shout out to Mike Renner pointing out what we've seen. Jalen Hurts has two completions of 10 plus air yards in two games, two victories.

[Mike Wright]

That's the big problem.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be tied with Tyrod Taylor, who played the fourth quarter of the jets game. And they're two and, oh, that should put the fear within because their defense.

[Mike Wright]

Is that good and their running game is that good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And their quarterback can run and their quarterback can sneak. And the tush push is getting a full on. Oh, man, like, very angry reaction this week and for good reason. Because the. The.

[Mike Wright]

Because all the false starts that aren't.

[Andy Holloway]

Because of all the uncalled false starts.

[Jason Moore]

As I think the biggest supporter of the tush push of saying, don't ban a play because you can't stop it. I mean, Philadelphia, take it easy, man. I'm trying to support you and you're just over here like, yeah, well, we'll just do it every play now and we will fall start all the time and get away with it. Like, I'm. I'm trying to be supportive and you're making me look the fool.

[Mike Wright]

I like that. They do it every play, but you still got to have it be a legal play. I mean, Philly fans can't watch that and be like, oh, yeah, that was not a false.

[Andy Holloway]

The guards are allowed to move early.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. It's like way early. And the center's super over the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

That play will not. I am. It will be gone. It will 100% be gone next year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. This is.

[Andy Holloway]

So enjoy it while you have it.

[Jason Moore]

This will be exhibit A.

[Andy Holloway]

It will at least be gone in that form right you know what I mean? So we'll still have sneaks and stuff and then he may be just as successful doing that. He is a.

[Mike Wright]

It's not like Tom Brady wasn't a 90% quarterback sneak player. You can still have.

[Jason Moore]

Jones ain't getting his tush pushed.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I'm so angry.

[Jason Moore]

He's just a man getting it done.

[Mike Wright]

So angry at him. I'm so proud of him. Like, he's playing such good football. But stop taking my Jonathan Taylor touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason was beside himself.

[Mike Wright]

Three vulture touchdowns in 2000.

[Andy Holloway]

Had an okay day.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, he was awesome independent of that.

[Andy Holloway]

But, yeah, this is the time to gather data, take a breath and, you know, realize that the reality for a lot of these players is not week one, it's not week two. It's somewhere in between. And we're learning which offenses, offensive systems, offensive coordinators, head coaches, defenses, have it together or don't. We're learning a lot of that. We've seen really nasty stuff from Brian Thomas for two years.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to bring up Brian Thomas because I, I don't know what's going on with me this year. Perhaps it's the age is catching up with.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, all right.

[Jason Moore]

But I am going old school football guys. I am just evaluating people on how tough or soft they are. This, this is now. This will now be my analysis.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay? Oh, you're that guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Like, either you, you're tough, you're the dog. You got it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Or me out and get out of my life.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, so are we. Are you giving Brian Thomas Jr. The Meow?

[Jason Moore]

He's on notice.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

He is on notice. You can't one in a game. Okay. It.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you don't want to get hit one time.

[Jason Moore]

It happens to the best of us.

[Mike Wright]

2. When you're talking one, you're saying one being afraid to go across the middle.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Also, yeah, I mean, he caused an interception by Alligator arming one ball and did it again later in the game. Also had a brutal fourth down drop. Like, you could definitely lay most of that game at his feet with how close it was. Now, Mike Anthony Richardson needing to play off after. After getting tired. Would that be in the.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's in the meow, guys. Come on.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

That. Don't give me layups right now. Yeah. I'm prepared for hard questions.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. Yeah. Well, we'll go to you for all.

[Jason Moore]

Toughness analysis because that's what I. I'm tough. Yeah. So I will be judging you, football player, on how tough you Are.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. So we have a lot.

[Jason Moore]

I would do it.

[Andy Holloway]

We have a lot to react to. Yeah, you would totally.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I would do one play and I would perish.

[Andy Holloway]

We have a lot to react to this week. And we have studs and duds on the show. NFL News to catch you up on huge injury news and implications. Unfortunately, Jason, after week one was like.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, there haven't been any injuries.

[Andy Holloway]

And then, yeah, we're going to have some season long implications after what happened this weekend. And of course we react to the weekend in the most sophisticated way possible. Like two dogs.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. This is a real doggy segment. Let me sip.

[Jason Moore]

My dogs can be sophisticated.

[Andy Holloway]

And we got your reactions to the week. Monday punday arrives again for week two, starting with the good Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Well, there's Rome Obooms A.

[Andy Holloway]

He was good.

[Jason Moore]

James cooked.

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh la la. St Brown.

[Mike Wright]

Amen. Ra Ra Saint Brown.

[Jason Moore]

We're allowing this to happen. Booty Scootin Bay shawl toot.

[Andy Holloway]

Not bad. Kenneth Runner.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's right. Oh.

[Mike Wright]

How about Kraft Yak and cheese?

[Jason Moore]

He is the king of the yak.

[Andy Holloway]

We got Pook Nukem and Jew Win Johnson. Mike. Nice call.

[Mike Wright]

My dude. Cam Scatter. Boom.

[Andy Holloway]

It was nice to see.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it was.

[Andy Holloway]

We did have some bad. There wouldn't be a bad without getting him back in here.

[Jason Moore]

AJ frown. People were gonna run out of AJ Brown puns.

[Andy Holloway]

There were also lots of puns about this guy. But I liked the reality here. Starvin Harrison Jr.

[Mike Wright]

This one's a little too soon. Toe burrow about.

[Jason Moore]

How about Justin completions? Feels.

[Mike Wright]

That was.

[Andy Holloway]

That's another big pendulum swing. Yep. Cortland. Nothing.

[Mike Wright]

J.J. mcFarty or Chase Brown pants. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, where? Brown pants is back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Chase gets it this time. Xavier Regret.

[Mike Wright]

That dude sucks. That dude sucks.

[Andy Holloway]

One more.

[Mike Wright]

Jason and Lion Thomas Jr. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Do you guys remember?

[Andy Holloway]

19 targets, five catches through two weeks for Brian Thomas Jr.

[Mike Wright]

Incredible. You love the targets. That's great. 19 targets through two weeks. You're. What a great first round pick.

[Jason Moore]

The process. We will scream into the night.

[Mike Wright]

Do you guys remember where Xavier Leggett was drafted in the first round?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Pick 32.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Do you remember who was picked? Pick 33.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that lad?

[Mike Wright]

That's my little lad, McConkey.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Whoopsie doozles.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes even the professionals get enamored by size and athleticism.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Actually keon Coleman was 33. Ladd was 34.

[Mike Wright]

33.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

In the first round. How did that work?

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't.

[Jason Moore]

Keon Coleman was Second round. Pick.

[Andy Holloway]

Around. Pick.

[Mike Wright]

Oh. Key. Oh. Keon.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you thought I was saying.

[Mike Wright]

I thought you were saying. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Regret.

[Mike Wright]

Regret. Okay, well, so then that's two strikes.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for submitting your puns on x @ the ffballers, on Instagram, @ fantasy footballers. And if you're ever like, oh, that segment, that's kind of, that's kind of bad. These are the best ones. These are the best ones. You.

[Jason Moore]

This is up to you.

[Andy Holloway]

This is up to you.

[Jason Moore]

If you think it's bad, you do better. Yeah. Get involved.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league, presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Joe Burrow suffered a grade three turf toe injury. It will require surgery is big. The public line right now on Joe Burrow is that he's expected to miss three months. Our injury expert. Everything I've read from injury experts on a surgically repaired turf toe injury is there are zero players that have returned the same season so far. This is only 20 of 25 ever came back to play. I mean, he'll come back to play. He'll absolutely come back to play. It's just like this is not a, we're naming it, it's called turf toe. But to be clear, it is a violent tearing of ligaments and tendons in your foot. And so there is no way to play on that. But Joe Burrow, another season, another injury after a great preseason and training camp where we're like, oh, he's the best he's ever been. And you watch these games and, you know, they just aren't investing in the offensive line to the degree to protect him. He is under fire. That was, I was going to come in here today and my, my, one of my top things was going to be like, can Joe Burrow actually be a fantasy superstar with an offensive line like this? And the answer is now definitively no.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, the three month line that they keep saying is to give them hopes of the playoffs, like if Joe Burrow can come back and abandon all hope. Right? Yeah. But the truth is you're not going to win enough games to be playoff bound without Joe Burrow. So I can't fathom them rushing him back or making him come back at the end of this year. So for our, you know, I think you just have to look at Joe Burrow, T. Higgins, Jamar Chase with this being considered a season ending injury. And he's gone. Not coming back.

[Andy Holloway]

At Minnesota, at Denver, against Detroit, at Green Bay, three out of the next four on the road, all four. I mean, you want to line up the four tougher defenses in the league, you're pretty much doing it there. Minnesota, Denver, Detroit, Green Bay. A den Jake Browning will take over. And Jake Browning is not incompetent.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no, he's. He's definitely not. And it's not. Chase is not totally removed from your fantasy football lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just, he's not a monster week.

[Jason Moore]

He's not the number one overall pick type of ceiling anymore. And it will be Jake Browning, like the team is going to turn to him. We're not going to get some cool trade here for no Kirk Cousins of the Cincinnati Bengals. Well, I don't, I don't even think that. I mean there's so many salary cap things for that to even happen. I'm saying, like the Jameis calls for Jameis. It's like they're going to go to Jake Browning. That's what it will be.

[Andy Holloway]

So you know T. Higgins, as a reminder, it's going to be a major impact for him because Jake Browning did hyper focus on Chase after the injury. Chase had an unbelievable day. 16 targets, 14 catches, a touchdown. But if you look historically at his games without Joe Burrow, he's got a couple good ones, about six or seven real duds.

[Jason Moore]

He's still Jamar Chase. That can make things happen, but it's brutal. And I mean Chase Brown as well. Just the entire offense like the Chase Brown being a my guy. This is a really bad position.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. Chase Brown is going to be in big trouble.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he could be back in 2023. We saw seven games start up from Jake Browning and he was, he was actually pretty good during that stretch. Quarterback 18. Quarterback 4. Quarterback 4. Quarterback 8. Quarterback 21. Quarterback 8. Quarterback 9. The majority of his weeks were top 10. He was on pace for 4,500 yards. He's more experienced now. So this is not a. I think this is a quality backup. He's a backup. He's not going to do what Joe Burrow could do. He's not going to go out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Do they give him a different offensive line?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, that offensive line is.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, they won. By the way.

[Mike Wright]

We have seen. I mean, congratulations on your Jake Browning.

[Andy Holloway]

Jake Browning threw three interceptions after coming in for Joe Burrow. And one.

[Jason Moore]

And they were, they were losing, right?

[Mike Wright]

They were down south.

[Jason Moore]

They were losing when Jake Browning came in.

[Andy Holloway]

Take a bow. Brian Thomas, take a bow. Trevor Lawrence. Take a bow. Shane Waldron.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, that was a. That was a pretty, in my opinion, a Very good. Almost upset.

[Andy Holloway]

I think technically I didn't cover. Yeah, you didn't somehow some way that did not cover.

[Mike Wright]

But also you watch the game and you go, the Jags were the better team.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. Two weeks picking against Cincinnati and the.

[Jason Moore]

Other team being better. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Justin Fields evaluated for a concussion on Sunday. Didn't play in the fourth quarter. Also barely played in the first three.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He. It was a brutal outing for all members.

[Andy Holloway]

Why did I do what I say not to do?

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Why did I believe in Justin? Why did I believe that performance? I mean, by the way, we can. I'll happily apologize to everybody. We picked three jets this week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Charts of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I think maybe the Steelers defense is way worse than we ever thought.

[Jason Moore]

I think that that is the takeaway.

[Andy Holloway]

We thought the jets were good against a good defense in week one. What we didn't know is they were good against a bad defense in week one and Buffalo got run all over in week one and they look like a great defense in week two. And we bought into the dumbest, stupidest team ever.

[Jason Moore]

Well, it's just, it's so bizarre of like oh, Derek Henry and the in the Ravens run all over the Buffalo Bills and you're like. And then, then the Browns. I mean it's just Derek Henry had what like 20 yards. I mean it. Football, football is crazy. But also I do think that the, the Steelers could be trending to a team that we must start against. We target our running backs against the Steelers.

[Andy Holloway]

So Justin Fields had a terrible game and then got hurt and will be in concussion protocol. Aaron Jones left with a hamstring injury. We don't know the severity but that could put Jordan Mason square in the start for a while category.

[Jason Moore]

It does. Unfortunately, we have to pay attention to what's going on with their offensive line. Like they already had an injury to left tackle. They lost their center to a concussion. Who. This has a concussion history and you. I mean you saw it.

[Andy Holloway]

Orion Kelly.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. You saw it last night. Of I'm not that J.J. mcCarthy played outstanding. He looked, look, he looked like a young inexperienced player. Yeah. Yes. He made a couple really, really good throws. His Jay, you were talking about his throwing motion and there is something right really long about it. Just it looks like he had. He's like it's everything he got. When he's bombing that the ball downfield.

[Mike Wright]

It's not a flick start.

[Jason Moore]

It's a wind up charge up the power.

[Mike Wright]

He knows like I'm going to throw to that guy it's like okay, one one thousand go.

[Jason Moore]

But anyway. But on top of that this the line was in such danger. So Mason will get tons of tons of volume and then they get down to the one and do stupid. Oh my gosh, that was so frustrating.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that game was that game.

[Jason Moore]

I'm saying not a good game. The Vikings were on the one first and goal. You have Jordan Mason, the power back in there and then they do some trick play, it fails. Then they get a false start and just nothing.

[Andy Holloway]

We did get formal. I think we mentioned it already, but Echler formally out with Achilles day to day for Jaden Daniels who got an MRI on his knee. That's not something you want to hear from a running commander's quarterback in season.

[Jason Moore]

Two to just to follow up with it, the Commanders are signing veteran running back Chase Edmonds practice squad. Oh, is that it? Practice well he'll yeah, okay. If Chris Rodriguez is going to get called up and actually play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah we do have two games tonight. The doubleheader Christian Kirk is officially out. Brock Bowers is expected to play and there's a lot of points left on the board tonight. You know, Baker and Ibuka and Evans and Bucky and Bowers and lots of big names. Herbert.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you didn't even name the Chargers yet.

[Andy Holloway]

Which yeah, I really I shouldn't have started naming because there's like a lot of players from two games. But then I just kept going. So those games are tonight. That was News Notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll jump into the studs.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's.

[Andy Holloway]

Who are you laughing about, Mike?

[Jason Moore]

Both of the top two. Really?

[Andy Holloway]

You talk about Jared Goff.

[Jason Moore]

Jared Goff. This was.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

So Gary, week two. Week two says let's calm down about the Lions offense. And I did not see a world where Jared Goff was going to go 330 yards and five passing touchdowns and.

[Andy Holloway]

They were in a game where Gibbs and Monty both had a rushing touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they. They had gotten. They were just up so much and I it to me was like I think the Lions are trying to prove a point right now of like yeah be you saw week one that we threw that away. You should be terrified of our team. They did. They did not pull the throttle at all. Which that's Dan Campbell's MO of course but well.

[Andy Holloway]

And the Bears onside kicking down 600 points definitely makes you want to keep stepping on the gas.

[Jason Moore]

The biggest chuckle is number two here who goes from looking like a quarterback that I was strongly saying on this show like you, you cannot play him in week two. This dude was so horrifically bad. We have our prize pick segment where I took the less on his 200 and something yards which he essentially doubled for.

[Mike Wright]

Are you talking about the league leader in passing yards on the season, Russell Wilson with the most 618 passing yards ahead of every other NFL quarterback, Russell Wilson.

[Jason Moore]

So which love that guy. It was. It was an incredible day for Russ and the Giants and I mean not the end of the game, of course they end up losing with a spectacular Brandon Aubrey say saving the Cowboys the where I felt more even more confident. You know being against Russ Wilson was the second half of that Cowboys Eagles game where it's the Cowboys defense really stepped up against the Philadelphia Eagles. The first half was tough. Okay. Maybe they got some jitters out or. Or perhaps the Cowboys defense is just going to be horrifically bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. 453. In case you're wondering what the line was for Russell Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean that. That is another indication of like maybe the Eagles offense we saw between their super bowl years when they didn't, you know they lost their offensive coordinator after the first Super Bowl.

[Jason Moore]

Their.

[Mike Wright]

Their new man next man up was really bad. And the Eagles offense struggled for a Year they changed. They brought in Kellen Moore. They had a great offense again. Now they lost Kellen Moore and this new offense that they're running and they're two and oh, and they're fine and they can run the ball for days. It is scary. And you're talking about the second half against Dallas. They had really struggled to move the ball and you thought maybe that was Dallas, maybe that was the Eagles.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's possible.

[Andy Holloway]

There's just no need.

[Mike Wright]

Their defense is unbelievable.

[Andy Holloway]

We've seen this at Kansas City for two years. You can have a passing game that isn't, you know, explosive.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they can. They could. If they, if they went into a game saying, I would like to not throw the ball once this game and find a way to win, I would put their odds at 51% chance that they could succeed.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we know Lamar Jackson's good. He threw four touchdowns. But we, we were very happy to see both Bo Nix and Drake may have bounce back performances. For fantasy purposes, Drake may 230 and two with a rushing touchdown. It was awesome. I want to ask you about this guy. 23 for 34. 316 and 1. Now, both games have been at home, sure, But Daniel Jones, another rushing touchdown. They have not punted once in two games. He, that's the first time ever in the super bowl era that a team has done that in back to back games to start the season.

[Jason Moore]

He looks good. Like he, he is handling things really well. He's handling the blitz, he's processing, he is making good decisions.

[Andy Holloway]

His accuracy, it's.

[Mike Wright]

And he goes to all levels of the field. My favorite thing, watching him through these first two weeks is that you watch the really easy screen game, the short stuff, the intermediate, but then he'll take these bomb shots. He's not afraid to go, hey, Alec pierce, go run 60 yards and I'm going to air it out. And for fantasy purposes, you need those explosive plays to have really good production. And he, he's got them locked and loaded, I think, you know, between Josh Downs, Pittman, Tyler Warren, who's definitely awesome and got that dog, and then Jonathan Taylor, this looks like a good offense. I was really excited to see after week one against the Dolphins. How, you know, are they a little bit more for real here? And this was a great defense they played. The Broncos are among the best defensive cores, so I loved to see that. And coming up, you've got the Tennessee Titans. Their first road game, but it's not a scary defense.

[Jason Moore]

Are we buying in?

[Mike Wright]

I'm Bought in. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what I was going to ask. Fantasy football wise.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I don't.

[Jason Moore]

When I say I'm more in than I would be dismissing it.

[Mike Wright]

When I say I'm bought in, what I mean is I am fine with the pieces and I'm fine streaming. Daniel Jones, like Jonathan Taylor is obviously awesome and going to be started. I think in most matchups, Michael Pittman is going to be really, really well, really good. You know, I benched him this week personally. I talked about that with Patrick Certain and it went more Josh Downs. But I do think that the weapons can be like Anthony Richardson. If you.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather have Daniel Jones or Kyler Murray rest of the season locked into your quarterback spot?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. Oh, man. Probably still probably. Turn it off, Kyler.

[Mike Wright]

Turn it off.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's enough.

[Andy Holloway]

Turn off the lights.

[Mike Wright]

Turn off the show. Turn off the lights. This is. That was.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, I think we'd all pick him over Justin Fields right now.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Caleb Williams or him.

[Mike Wright]

Daniel Jones for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Drake May. I mean, it feels like that's fair, too.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Papa Josh said answer the question, you coward.

[Jason Moore]

I did. I would take Kyler.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Kyler, though. The tough thing about that is Kyler sucks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that is really. That's a good point.

[Jason Moore]

These questions are. They're so two and oh, baby, it's so Cardinals. It's so black or white with the decision. And yet fantasy football is just gray.

[Andy Holloway]

The real answer is you're going to be bouncing around to these guys. Correct. And I. I'll be looking at Daniel Jones. I'll tell you this. I'll be looking at him. I mean, I have just shields. I'm going to look at Daniel Jones. I might play matchups between Kyler and Daniel Jones if I happen to grab him. Mahomes, he has been running wild seven for 66. That's the good. The bad. Not sure he has any wide receivers. Really not sure he has any. Obviously. Taekwond Thornton is a dog, by the way. If you watch the end of that game.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

With about three minutes left, I'm running out of time. And Tyquan Thornton breaks into the open as defenders run. The defenders run into each other. Taekwond Thornton has 30 yards of separation between and Patrick. Mahomes sees him because he's Mahomes and he misses Tyquan Thornton on the easiest bomb touchdown of his life. And I'm devastated. I'm like, this is.

[Mike Wright]

That was his chance.

[Andy Holloway]

I was Like I got to tweet about that because that's going to be the only shot I get. And then somehow came back to him. But no, right now it looks like, I mean, Hollywood's whatever.

[Mike Wright]

It's worth noting that they, they are expecting Xavier worthy to play in week three.

[Andy Holloway]

They need him bad and they need Rashi Rice bad. So, you know, right now they're owing to so Mahomes. You know, he does have a league leading 13 scrambles for 123 yards because he's had to. And there you go.

[Jason Moore]

So they can't lose to the Giants, can they?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, they can. Yeah, they can't. The Giants should have won this week, man. Brian Dable is. He's not doing well. That is a stressed out man.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That is a man who has dealt with this for years.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's Sunday night. Oh my God.

[Andy Holloway]

Casey at the Giant in New York.

[Jason Moore]

Somehow a Giants game is a must watch right now.

[Mike Wright]

That game is going to be an ugly, unfun, unwatchable game.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you're probably right about that.

[Jason Moore]

But that's what, that's what'll make that one fun.

[Andy Holloway]

Running backs. By the way, the top five scores already said Goff, Wilson, May Lamar and Daniel Jones top five running backs this week. Johnny Taylor. Jason getting greedy. He got the number one performance of the not enough but could have had more.

[Mike Wright]

And then just enough.

[Andy Holloway]

James. Oh yeah. Jason won by like point one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it was so scary at the.

[Andy Holloway]

End of those games because you were like you have. You're playing against Jalen Hurts and Jalen Hurts is getting tush push after tush push.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but we're at the point where like 0.1, like a tush push is going to kill me.

[Andy Holloway]

So you hung on to victory. James Cook was the second highest performer of the week. James Cook is given the middle finger to everybody that thought he couldn't score touchdowns at the same rate as last year.

[Jason Moore]

One of the better runs you will see.

[Mike Wright]

He's the running back one through two weeks. Oh my gosh. That run from James Cook, I mean.

[Jason Moore]

Like a triple jump cut 40 plus.

[Mike Wright]

I don't remember how long. Should have been stopped for a 1 yard loss. Then he should have been stopped at the line of scrimmage. Then he should have been stopped at about the. About a two yard gain. He broke all of those and then ran for whatever it was like a 50 yard touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

H&Javante and Christian McCaffrey the they round out the top five. McCaffrey still just about 20 points even with the Mac Jones start where now the 49ers have won back to back games to start the year on the road with two different quarterbacks. No George Kittle and McCaffrey currently healthy.

[Jason Moore]

And looking it we'll say so Mac Jones, it looked brutal to start. He by the second half looks competent and 279 and 3. Yeah he was. He ends up as one of the better fantasy quarterbacks surprisingly. And then he'll play Arizona and Jacksonville for the next two matchups. So I wouldn't be overly concerned about tmcaffrey.

[Andy Holloway]

Devon HN 10 targets, 8 for 92. Wasn't great on the ground again but catches that.

[Jason Moore]

Another monster one.

[Andy Holloway]

Javante Williams 18 for 97 and a touchdown. The running back two and six targets.

[Jason Moore]

The Javante stuff is incredible. He looked, he looked much better in week two. Now the Dallas Cowboys did just lose was their center. So they're like a report just came out that their center will miss six to eight weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yikes.

[Jason Moore]

With a high ankle sprain. So that will be interesting to monitor to see how that affects Javante's resurgence.

[Andy Holloway]

I have a Ramon Dre Stevenson smirk on my face.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah dude.

[Andy Holloway]

11 for 54 on the ground and then 5 for 88 through the air including a fingertip. An awesome catch catch he was.

[Mike Wright]

You know who that looked like on that catch?

[Andy Holloway]

Trayvon Ninjas. Yeah, it was a really amazing performance by Ramondre. And to contrast it, I mean Travion barely saw the field and they said he picked up three holding calls.

[Jason Moore]

He had three holding calls.

[Andy Holloway]

So it the rookies, the mistakes for rookies. Travion Henderson with the holding calls. Caleb Johnson on the don't know rules he had.

[Mike Wright]

What did he do? Dude, he never touched the ball. He didn't do anything. If you. So this should be in the next segment but Caleb Johnson shout out to my man. Woof. You want to talk about giving a game away. He is the kick returner which is his only job and he's might want.

[Jason Moore]

To dial in those rules if that's your job.

[Mike Wright]

The ball goes. It takes a wicked bounce. Yeah and goes over his shoulder. So he doesn't, he doesn't catch it. He misses.

[Andy Holloway]

That's walking off the field and then.

[Mike Wright]

He turns around, watches the ball. I think he thought maybe it was going through the.

[Jason Moore]

If it hits the end zone it's just.

[Mike Wright]

Or he didn't know the rules but instead he just walks off the field leaving the other team to go grab the ball in the end zone. Touchdown. Immediate touch. I mean that Is like you're going to see a healthy scratch. You know what I mean? Like, it's there. You got to punish a player who doesn't know the rules of the job. He's doing.

[Andy Holloway]

The only job. The only. The only other player more embarrassing this week was that left tackle for the Giants. Did you see? I mean, he had four. Four penalties on the first drive, two false starts, personal fouls. It was unbelievable. Part of Brian Dable stress. Bijon.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, that's right, B. John, we are so back.

[Mike Wright]

Bijan. We're back to Bijan.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Not Bijon.

[Andy Holloway]

Not Bijan.

[Mike Wright]

But he said his name is Bijon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

He didn't. He. He did.

[Andy Holloway]

And he said his grandma and his mama calls him that. And then last night on the air, I noticed Collinsworth and, oh, gosh, why can't I remember his name? The other announcer, Mike Tirico. Mike Tirico. Thank you. They were all game long. They're calling him Bijan. Bijan, Bijan, Bijan. And I'm going, all right, that's going to be enough for me. And then all of a sudden, they talk about it on the air and they say, well, we sat down with Bijan and we talked to Bijan. What does he want to be called? He said he wants to be called Bijan.

[Jason Moore]

Then what was all this Bichon stuff?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, come on.

[Andy Holloway]

He said that he doesn't like Bichon.

[Jason Moore]

It's. Why did you say that when you were saying it?

[Andy Holloway]

This is, you know. All right, we're back to bijan. But 22 for 143 and looked insane. I mean, just out of this world.

[Mike Wright]

So we wondered against Minnesota, after that first week, it looked like the carries might be split. They were using Bijon as more of a pass catcher against Tampa Bay because. And that was clearly game plan. That was. We're playing against the tough run line. You know, Vita Vea there.

[Andy Holloway]

The.

[Mike Wright]

This game, they come out and they just hand the ball to him the entire beginning of the first drive until penalties got in his way.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Mike, I'll give you a moment here.

[Jason Moore]

We're back, baby.

[Andy Holloway]

Another. Another pendulum swing here. Week one, Kenneth Walker looked like the worst running back in football.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Week two, who looks like the worst now?

[Andy Holloway]

Pittsburgh does.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they look like a bad. But I'm saying, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

13 for 105 and a touchdown. And Charbonnet was the inverse of week one. He was terrible. He had more snaps and touches. Yeah, it's or same touches.

[Jason Moore]

I think it. Unfortunately, for now, it will just end up still being the timeshare of the. I mean, the. This what Walker was last week of. Like, they kept giving him touches even though he was the one who was inefficient and really hurting the offense. Charbonnet was the one hurting the offense this time, but they still kept giving him the ball, putting him out there. So probably still a timeshare. But Kenneth Walker truly is. He's the one who has the juice.

[Andy Holloway]

Tamir Gibbs 12 for 94 and one in a blowout victory could have been a lot more. Saquon 22 for 88 and 1. Chuba Hubbard.

[Jason Moore]

Chuba backdoored his way in here.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, another receiving touchdown for receiving touchdown that two in a row.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. At the end of the game, he was a 1038. Like it was not going to be a good day. And then during that, Carolina attempted comeback, which Arizona.

[Andy Holloway]

They attempted to let them.

[Jason Moore]

Arizona really wanted Carolina to win the game. If you didn't watch the end of it, it was ridiculous.

[Andy Holloway]

But then 27 to 3 and then they went into a permanent prevent defense. Like, I'm not. I'm not drawing any conclusions from pass catching from about the third quarter on for Carolina because it was like Bryce Young had a good day because it was just. The Cardinals played 10 yards off the line of scrimmage. They didn't want to let anything get by them. They abandoned everything that made them have success in the beginning of the game.

[Jason Moore]

I hate that it's so wild of you.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, that's not a dog mentality.

[Mike Wright]

No, it is not. That is.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's a meow defense.

[Jason Moore]

And you're. You're like, hey, our defense. We're destroying them.

[Andy Holloway]

We're three points.

[Jason Moore]

You know what we should do? Let's change everything.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not like they were trying to give up deep stuff in the beginning of the game.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Just play the game and then they give up an onside kick and then Carolina gets three penalties and they have a chance to beat them.

[Jason Moore]

Diculous.

[Andy Holloway]

Outrageous. Outrageous. We don't need no cats. What? What?

[Mike Wright]

You don't know that drop. It's an old.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me hear that again. I didn't hear that.

[Mike Wright]

Be a dog.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't need no meow cats.

[Mike Wright]

We don't need no meow.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't need no cats. Wow, that's good.

[Jason Moore]

That guy, years ago, whenever I heard that, I was like, that guy's crazy. You know what? He's on to something.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Mike is really. Have you gotten the chair set up on the lawn yet or on the Front porch.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I got to make sure that no.

[Andy Holloway]

One touches on IPA in your hand.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Get off my lawn. We don't need no cats.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, I'm walking up and down the street. I'm like, hey, turn that music down.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, are you going to join hoa?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, bro, I'm already going to be the person.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm handing out leaflets.

[Jason Moore]

Someone. Someone needs to take over and clean this mess up.

[Andy Holloway]

This is amazing.

[Jason Moore]

This new.

[Andy Holloway]

This new trend. I love it. Mike has really turned over.

[Jason Moore]

Dye my beard. Great.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

I gotta get some more authority.

[Andy Holloway]

Just wait a little while. Wide receivers scores this week. Almond Ross st. Brown drop 34 against me. That was cool. Three touchdowns, goal line touchdowns. He is real good at football. Malik Neighbors, Jamar Chase Rome.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. I think that was the biggest takeaway of the week is it appears that the. It's early and obviously DJ Moore is still involved. He's great. But there was a big question coming into the season as to who is going to be the number one between those two guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe for you.

[Mike Wright]

Sure. For me there was. I know you were. You were clearly on the adunes. A side I. Sometimes you don't want to overreact, but sometimes it's about how quick you can correctly react. It took one play of the season to know that Xavier Leggette is a turd and not good at football. Roma Dunes A. It took me too long, which is two games, but he is absolutely the one for that team.

[Andy Holloway]

Devonte Adams, 13 targets. Nice to see six for 106. This was the one game we saw the least of this weekend because they. The NFL decided to give us nine morning games.

[Jason Moore]

NFL, stop it.

[Andy Holloway]

Or no wait. Is that right? Yeah, nine.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Nine morning games. And we have eight televisions.

[Jason Moore]

We have eight TVs for the games. NFL. How is that not enough?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's. I mean, we had the middle game on red zone, so we saw all the red zone of that game, but we had to pick one and Puka and devonte got it done.

[Jason Moore]

And the three game afternoon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, it's just.

[Jason Moore]

It's not as. It's very NFL. I don't. I don't get. It's not as compelling. NFL on NFL.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you said NFL.

[Jason Moore]

Did I just.

[Mike Wright]

Awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

That's cool.

[Jason Moore]

Hey.

[Andy Holloway]

Very NFL.

[Jason Moore]

I got my message across.

[Andy Holloway]

Troy Franklin. Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Go ahead, baby. Yeah. Oh, man. It is Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Swing that eight times for 89 yards and a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, it's so fun singing that every time he catches the ball. Which was more than all the other pass catchers there. If you, if you look at the targets between like Cortland Sutton was the.

[Andy Holloway]

Biggest disappointment of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Coral and Sutton also had more targets that are not on the official sheet because they just. Kevin penalties kept happening. But he, yeah, Corland Sutton was a big bummer.

[Andy Holloway]

And then George Pickens 5 for 68 and a touchdown. CD Lamb, 9 for 112 in the Dallas offense got it going with those guys. George Pickens, league leader in penalty yards gained.

[Mike Wright]

Dude, every deep shot, it's like NFL defenders just go, I can tackle him before the ball gets here. I don't understand why they don't give him chances at those deep shots. But the nice thing is they, they threw some regular routes to him and he did very well.

[Andy Holloway]

Tucker Craft, we saw it on Thursday. Number one score of the week at tight end. Number two is an interesting conversation though because Zach ertz yet again, eight targets, six or 64. No more Austin Eckler in this offense. Terry McLaurin has not got it going. And you know, Zach Ertz through two weeks looks like a very integral part yet again. He. After.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I think he's. He's difficult.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably the number. He's probably a top five tight end.

[Jason Moore]

He was. He was tight end number nine in week one with over 10 points. I mean, he's, he has scored in both weeks. He.

[Andy Holloway]

He's on pace for 110 targets. That's all I'm saying.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I don't know where I am on with the Zach Ertz stuff because I mean like his touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

I know where you are. Well, denial.

[Jason Moore]

Well, Zach Ertz is. Is Washington going to be getting throttled every single week because he like his, his touchdown was pretty garbagey too of like near the end of the game.

[Andy Holloway]

There are a lot of people that drafted Evan Ingram and Evan Ingram. Oh, I would not look like a thing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you can move over to hurts from that.

[Mike Wright]

Zach Ertz is the tight end two so far.

[Andy Holloway]

3. Juwan Johnson, he had two of the.

[Mike Wright]

Tight end three through two weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Two of the ugliest drops you've ever seen. And then one of the most beastly touchdown catches ever. Jawen Johnson, 5 for 49 touchdown on nine targets.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's. That's the thing to track for. Juwan Johnson is the nine targets and 20 targets through two games. That's leading the entire position. He is. It wasn't just week one. Week two was also. We're using Juwan like a wide receiver. So it's very, very encouraging. For those of us that paid up to get him off of the way, I completely agree.

[Andy Holloway]

He looks like in this offense and what they're doing, like Spencer Rattler was very competent. Yeah, he was 25 for 34, 34 attempts in that offense. So they play. It means teams play fast and they play from behind. Yeah, if you're that team. So we'll take a break and we'll jump into the duds. The sports horror event of the fall is none other than Universal Pictures him, produced by Jordan Peele and starring Marlon Wayans and Tyreek Withers. Directed by Justin Tipping. Horror meets football in him, which will shake audiences to their core. When football is life, you have to be willing to sacrifice everything to be the greatest of all time. Marlon Wayans stars as Isaiah White, AKA The Goat, in the performance of his career. Tyreek Withers also stars and is equally intense as Cameron Cade, a college football star who faces a career ending injury. He's called upon by Marlin's Isaiah, a hero of his, to train at his compound. When things don't go as planned, Cam is faced with the ultimate choice to sacrifice everything and make a deal with something sinister to become the Goat. Never meet your heroes in Him. A truly terrifying experience to see. In theaters September 19th. Let's face it, hoping that your fantasy winnings this year will be the solution to your financial problems is as smart of a strategy as drafting a kicker in the first round. If credit card debt and the rising cost of living have you feeling like you're facing a financial 4th in 25, then it's time to talk to the folks at National Debt Relief. National debt relief has helped over 1 million Americans towards a brighter future. You may only have to pay back a fraction of what you owe. If you owe 10, 20, or even $50,000 in credit card debt, talk to National Debt Relief today. They may not be able to reverse that awful trade you made with your brother in law, but they can help redraft your finances. Don't wait. Tackle your debt today and see what debt reduction you may qualify [e-mail] that's national debt relief dot com. Well, if you want to stay in a good mood, you can, I guess, turn off the podcast.

[Mike Wright]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

Or you can stick around and we'll talk about some of the disappointing performances and whether we think any of them matter, are going to last or are just blips on the radar like Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts, who had two of the worst fantasy days of any quarterbacks this week. And they're just, you know, that happens.

[Mike Wright]

The thing is about Josh Allen. You watch Josh Allen and you watch Lamar Jackson, and both of their teams were up big. And in one case, they're basically saying, hey, we don't need you anymore, Josh Allen. Let's run the ball and then let's take you off the field. And in the other case, they're like, hey, Lamar, just go be insane. Just go. Keep throw Ghost. Keep throwing unbelievable passes every time. I mean, he's so good.

[Jason Moore]

He didn't MVP last time. So we gotta. Yeah, we gotta make sure.

[Mike Wright]

I mean it. It's. It matters because I expect these teams to be up quite a bit, and so I would like the one that's going to keep pouring it on.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, so J.J. mcCarthy, 11 for 21. Three was it. Six sacks taken, two interceptions, three fumbles. I think it was as disastrous of. It was basically like if week one, the first half had just completed, that way you would have felt this way. So three. You've got. You've got the four halves of football. Three of. One of them have been good.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it's.

[Andy Holloway]

Three of them have been atrocious, really.

[Mike Wright]

One quarter, I mean, seven eighths of his play has been bad, and then he had an incredible quarter. However, we know he can't do that. And going into, you know, next week, they're at home against Cincinnati. So it feels like a matchup that you can try to go back out there again. Would you do it?

[Andy Holloway]

No. No, I wouldn't do it because you don't need to. That's where I was. Like, everybody wanted to start jj. I saw so many starts at questions where they wanted to start.

[Jason Moore]

I wanted to start him.

[Andy Holloway]

Like there was, you know, it's like Jordan Love, CJ Stroud, JJ. Okay, JJ's a lock is what I'm hearing. I'm like, no, JJ should not be a lock because you should give it some time. And you didn't draft him in a position where he has to be your starter. Let's let it breathe a little bit. It was exciting. It's fun. He's like offensive player of the week and had a dynamic into that game, but it was also a Bears collapsing defense. And it was, let's just breathe a little bit. Let's see how he plays.

[Jason Moore]

Well, they also.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather play Daniel Jones. I'd rather play Kyler.

[Jason Moore]

They never got anything like Mason didn't get going. So I. Which I think is a. Like, Mason has to have success for. For J.J. mcCarthy to have success.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Al, do you care if I share that? No, go for it. I mean he said he had. Al had the same excitement. He rushed, he said into starting JJ and it ends up going into his lineup over Jared Goff.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Whoops.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that is. I mean I was right there with you, man. That's part of the. Like I didn't see Jared Goff doing that. It seemed like they would just take their win.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyler 221 had 7 for 32 on the ground. He was okay.

[Mike Wright]

He had one of the worst interceptions just by boneheaded play.

[Andy Holloway]

Now that was. You might have thought that was Jason saying that. That was actually a sound bite that we got and we play it every week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That Kyler plays football.

[Jason Moore]

That's where we are now.

[Andy Holloway]

Michael Pennix Jr. Didn't do much. I mean he. 135 yards. If you want to talk about a situation I would be worried about, it is Atlanta's passing game because they don't. They might not need it. They have a pass rush. They have a defense that played well in week one, played really well in week two. Michael Penix Jr. Like we had this little three game trend at the end of the season. A lot of the puns that weren't even good enough for the show had to do with Drake London and Michael Penix Jr. Drake London combination through two weeks. Like it leaves a lot to be desired when you have Bijan running that way and the defense playing this way. You know, 21 attempts for 135 yards in a win, bunch of field goal kicks. It's a little concerning.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not, I don't think it's. I mean in week one he was, he was very good. Through for almost 300 yards. This was a real defensive slug fest. I don't expect that to be the norm for them.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Drake, Drake London, he did have the 15 targets in week one.

[Mike Wright]

But Drake London had a bad game.

[Andy Holloway]

A couple of drops, a fumble, three for 49. His yards per catch in week one was just 6.9. I'm just, I mean defensive slugfest or not, I guess I'd be a little concerned. I don't. I could never see a game where, where Kirk Cousins threw for 135 passing yards in this offense. That was not going to happen. But this rookie's getting managed is my point.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

So I actually do draw a conclusion from that one. Running backs Derek Henry 11 for 23 was invisible.

[Jason Moore]

It happens.

[Andy Holloway]

Chase Brown maybe a bit of a red Alert here. Probably looking more like an RB2 at best without Joe Burrow as the head of the offense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think that that's probably a fair thing to say. We'll see how Browning if he checks it down like that's what we need. We need Chase Brown to have more than three targets.

[Andy Holloway]

I failed you here. Breeze Hall 10 for 29. I mean, I don't know why I didn't just stay hating certain players, Fields and Breeze. I mean it's not like I like, I've liked those guys before. Why did I like them? What delusion? What potion did I drink?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, I mean when week one Breeze did look the part, he really, he really was explosive and honestly, there was a run or two in this game where he still looked pretty quick. The Buffalo defense really shut down Justin Fields. The jets didn't look good. Coming up though. It's another tough run defense against Tampa Bay. The utilization for Breeze hall was, was good though. I mean he had 60% of the snaps. He had even more percentage of the workload. So I'm not, I'm not going to just write Breeze hall completely off because of one bad game.

[Andy Holloway]

Somebody understandably frustrated with the triple jets picks from last week. Completely get it. We don't get it. All right. But my favorite comment of all the comments was we did it because we wanted those. We wanted some extra social media clicks by picking the Jets. And I just want to put it out there. We do not receive those. We do not receive extra social. I wanted the players that we hate. Well, yeah, Zach Charbonnet 15 for 10. Is that good?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Negative seven got two. Negative one. Negative 100000111 can't wait for that to.

[Jason Moore]

Just 100 flip every single week.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the problem. And you said that about Justin Fields even when I picked him last week. You're like, yeah, he could just go back to Justin Fields next week. And he did. And Zach Charbonnet and Walker completely flipped.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean this, the, the way that Charbonnet plays. This is why on Price Picks my prediction was that he would have less than 12 and a half as his longest rushing attempt. He had less than 12 and a half in the game.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm going to go out there since we mentioned it a couple of times, we are listening to you and we are going to make the Friday segment even more fun. Like Wheel of Shame is a guaranteed always returning to Friday when just so you know and we'll probably do some other stuff.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm going To spin the wheel five times for Russell Wilson or at least twice.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Double the yardage. Let's talk about a major, major, major problem. And his name is Isaiah Pacheco. Yep. He was 5 for 25 in week one. He was 10 for 22 in week two. Yes, it was the Chargers. Yes, it was Philadelphia.

[Jason Moore]

Well, next week's the Giants front.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. And then it's the Baltimore front.

[Jason Moore]

So hey. But Jacksonville's in between there. But then it's Detroit.

[Andy Holloway]

So are we two weeks in? Are we panicking about a not top 40 running back?

[Mike Wright]

He was, I mean I brought it up after last week. He was, he's unstartable. I mean Pacheco, he doesn't concern me that much because I mean I was, I wasn't starting him already. I don't think anybody should have been relying on Pacheco after the week one and, and where you drafted him. Hopefully you didn't need to.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's really disappointing based off of all the coach speak. Things happen. But all the word at training camp was Isaiah Pacheco is the one and he looks far closer to pre injury form than. And I'm not saying he doesn't look good when he's, you know, if he has space or anything but he's in a full time share and he is not producing. I would be putting him on the bench.

[Andy Holloway]

I see a missing name on this list that I have to bring. Oh, R.J. harvey. I mean R.J. harvey was five carries for eight yards. We have back to back top 15 performances from J.K. dobbins. We see Tyler Bidet on the field. You had the breakaway run in week one for Dobbins or for Harvey, but he's got 11 touches in two weeks. Yeah, we're like on the Trayvon Henderson plan here.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's. They are rookies, they are highly drafted rookies. So you need to hold on. But this is not moving away from them. But let them, let them sit on the bench and work their way into the, into the actual rotation.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, not there yet.

[Jason Moore]

No. It will happen. But you got to have patience.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Mason did not deliver the week that I think Mike was hoping for.

[Jason Moore]

It was right there, 9 for 37.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well he'll be the starter for a while.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And you know we saw the Bill performance on Thursday.

[Jason Moore]

It was nonexistent and hilariously I don't think Aaron Jones had a catch.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

So the like, hey, we'll go with Aaron Jones because he can catch the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

That offense was just.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but Jordan Mason caught the ball a couple of times.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

It's funny.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Sam Darnold put up five touchdowns against Atlanta last year. Remember that game? Jordan Addison had three of them put up like 9 million yards, by the way.

[Jason Moore]

It feels like a whoopsie right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Fun Kyron Williams story. He was not. He was not that bad. He was 17 for 66. But there was. There was the point of the game where we were expecting his routine touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

The Rams were doing weird stuff at the moment.

[Andy Holloway]

And then it happened. It happened. And we. And Al Borland, who's got. He's got Kyron Williams over there, you put the hand up and you were cheering. Yeah. And then we saw the name. We saw the name Corum on the back of the jersey, and I didn't cash my. Do you care about that Corum getting a token goal and carry there A little bit?

[Mike Wright]

I would say so.

[Andy Holloway]

Surprised you?

[Mike Wright]

Kyron and Corum split carries a little bit more. What? You know, going into the season, they talked about, hey, we might share the workload a little bit. And I said, I expect it to happen. I'm not that concerned.

[Jason Moore]

Still. 19 opportunities.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. I think this is going to be the norm, and I'm not that concerned. Kyron still, if you compare him to other running backs, was way better. But the one thing I didn't expect to happen is to have Kyron taken off on the goal line.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not a huge fan of that duds. Graphic back behind you, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

No. Is it because of how ugly you are?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. That's not a great graphic.

[Jason Moore]

Remember when you didn't have a tooth?

[Mike Wright]

I remember when he didn't have tooth.

[Andy Holloway]

Now that. That's accurate. The hairline photograph. The hairline is not accurate yet.

[Jason Moore]

That's Jason's hair.

[Mike Wright]

I wish you want that thick, luscious lump.

[Andy Holloway]

Wide receivers, we got to talk about A.J. brown. Five for 27. And then Devonte Smith got banged up. I mean, this was. We were hoping that. No. Goddard meant great things for A.J. brown. I don't know if you like. There's a little bit of a disinterested feel to what I saw from A.J. brown. Now, he had eight targets, but there was a little bit of a. Like, maybe these guys are getting taken out of the game by the game plan, and maybe we're getting a little bit discontent out there on the outside.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, two.

[Andy Holloway]

Two weeks in. Are you. What's your. Your posture right now with A.J. brown? Like, the name is powerful enough to where you could absolutely trade AJ Brown, despite The two bad games, there would be tons of buyers out there. It's just a matter of whether or.

[Mike Wright]

Not I would not sell him cheap for pennies on the dollar by any means. This is sometimes we overthink it. Right. A.J. brown is still a great wide receiver and he's on a great team with a great quarterback. So good fantasy production will happen this season. But we're also seeing a team where right now Jalen Hurts is 29th in total passing yards through two weeks. And they're two and, oh, they don't have to do much. And that is, you know, if I could trade A.J. brown for preseason, would you trade it.

[Andy Holloway]

For Brian Thomas Jr.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yeah. Because I think that the total passing yards, the total passing yards, total passing attempts, opportunities are much better for Brian Thomas.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been a bad two weeks for Brian Thomas Jr. 4 for 49. And the mistakes in this, this week, the targets have been there. Travis Hunter got a little banged up in the game, was just three for 22, six targets. There was a lot of Diami Brown, there was a lot of Parker Washington. There was some Britton Strange. There was some Travis etn. There was some Bashaw Tootin there was moving the ball all over the place. So that is something to watch. I mean, Travis Hunter, he either is a thing and you draft him. He played 100% of snaps, by the way. 100%.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

He either is a thing. That could take away a little bit from Brian Thomas in the future. Now, the targets, they. I think the passer rating for Trevor Lawrence is 18 when targeting Brian Thomas Jr. His pass rating targeting everybody else is much better. It's just been a bad connection so far. We talked about Drake London.

[Mike Wright]

You said that you were concerned about Brian Thomas before this game because of Travis Hunter and the fact that the target, the actual targets might not go his way. Where would you be on that? A.J. brown versus Brian Thomas?

[Andy Holloway]

I would do it for the same reasons that you said, which is that your targets, targets are king. Brian Thomas Jr. Is going to be a squeaky wheel. He's younger, he was so explosive. And I just, I feel like A.J. brown has to take advantage of fewer opportunities in less time. So, yeah, I would rather have Brian Thomas jr.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like in a lot of leagues that would be cathartic to both managers. Just like every league that has A.J. brown and Brian Thomas. Yeah, just like, yeah, this guy's giving me two bad performance. Yeah, I need a fresh start. Just like.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you rather have Drake London than both those guys?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

I think so Too we had DJ Moore just 5 for 46. We had Keon Coleman just 3 for 26.

[Jason Moore]

That was a bummer.

[Andy Holloway]

That was also very few passing yards and need to pass for Buffalo. I would, if it's a by low chance, if you believe in Keon like I do, I would actually go after him.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean we said going into this week, like if, if the Bills are up big, they're going to run the ball. They're going to take the foot off the passing accelerator. And so week one against Baltimore, when they were down, Keon Coleman had a great game and it showed to me that Keon Coleman stepped up and he is good. But it won't always be like week one because they just don't need it to be.

[Andy Holloway]

Hollywood Brown, hugely disappointing. Same with juju. 5 for 30 for Hollywood in a game where they needed him and they couldn't get it done. Garrett Wilson, he, he went as the jets went 4 for 50. And so.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, you need more.

[Andy Holloway]

Cortland Sutton, just one for six. He was behind Troy Franklin in this one. Target percentage wise through two weeks, he still is behind Troy Franklin who is leading the way on that team in target percentage. Yes, that is true, baby. You guys remember when I told you there's no way I'm making Marvin Harrison Jr. My guy?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because I finally got to that point. I wanted to believe all the offseason hype.

[Mike Wright]

You had him on your board for most of the off season.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, look, he published some pictures.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, oh, little look.

[Andy Holloway]

Marvin Harrison.

[Jason Moore]

Weak, Marv, it's weak.

[Mike Wright]

Melvin Harrison Jr.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Two for 27.

[Jason Moore]

Goodness gracious.

[Andy Holloway]

I wasn't willing to get all in on Marvin Harrison because I want, I needed to see it in a real game. I'm tired of the off season discussion. I'm tired of the weightlifting pictures. I want to see a player that looks, I don't know, 10% as good as Malik. Neighbors. This is not. There are Jags all over the place at wide receiver that, that make a big catch. Right. How many times has Mack Hollins made a phenomenal catch and we're not. Yeah. Matt Collins caught a touchdown. Look, Marv, I'm sorry. The truth is Marv is good, not great. That is exactly what he's been through his entire career so far. He doesn't regularly win and have huge separation.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

He comes down with a, you know, an over the shoulder catch from Kyler from time to time. It is, you know, they gave him a goal. I like the goal line attempt. It was a terrible pass and a terrible play doing the back shoulder fade. But guess what? Larry would have caught it. I'm sorry I'm wearing the Cardinal on the hat. I'm going to be as critical as I'm going to be realistic with Marvin, and he is not a fantasy football superstar right now.

[Jason Moore]

They were, you know, the commentary during the game, they're like, talking about Kyler and Marv and like, Marv, does he ever ask, you know, does he ever.

[Andy Holloway]

The squeaky.

[Jason Moore]

Was he asking for the bars? Oh, no, that's not part of his. Part of his. Not part of his temperament.

[Andy Holloway]

You're like.

[Jason Moore]

They're saying it like it's a good.

[Mike Wright]

I hate it when.

[Jason Moore]

Terrible thing.

[Mike Wright]

I hated it.

[Jason Moore]

It's a terrible.

[Mike Wright]

No. He never asks for the ball. He never demands the ball.

[Jason Moore]

Be selfish, not polite.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't want a polite wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

No. Every good door open. You got to have a little bit of getting in there first diva in you. Just a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You don't got to be Antonio Brown, but come on, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Take a penalty. Hit him in the face.

[Mike Wright]

I wish he had the cat in him. He's got a little kitten. Kitten. Harrison Jr. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

That was. That was pretty hard. But, yeah, 2 for 27 says it all is a game that the Cardinals won and we're up 27 to 3. And it was in no part due to Marvin Harrison. Michael Wilson had the dog.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Michael Wilson got it done. Trey McBride's got the dog. Oh, Trey, stop holding the door. Let it hit somebody.

[Jason Moore]

Trey McBride's got the Wolf Man.

[Andy Holloway]

Ricky Pearsall, 4 for 56.

[Jason Moore]

That one was a bummer, especially when you see Juwan Jennings, who was. There was no way I was playing Juwan after the injury. I was okay with Pearsall, and that was backwards.

[Andy Holloway]

You saw a balancing in Indianapolis. You saw Josh Downs get more involved. Michael Pittman just 4 for 40 in this game. And so look, that's part of the weekly process. You got to let things settle out.

[Jason Moore]

Wide receivers in general and Pat Certan.

[Andy Holloway]

Outside of, you know, top tier guys who. Even top tier guys, they're inconsistent at times. We might be ready to move off of Stefan Diggs. I don't know. He's 4 for 32k. Sean Booty seems like a better play.

[Mike Wright]

He only had one target. Booty did. But thankfully that target was in the end zone and was a touchdown and was an awesome difficult catch. I'm really wanting some clarity on the Patriots receiving core. It was a great game. For the Patriots, but didn't go as expected. I'm hopeful that Booty retains that wide receiver one role going forward.

[Andy Holloway]

How'd you feel about Cedric Tillman and Jerry? Judy Tillman caught a deflected pass. Touchdown. But he was. He was 2 for 20, I think.

[Mike Wright]

So I actually felt, when I look at how that worked with the four receiving targets, Judy Tillman, Najoku and Fanon. It was wonderful to see Joe Flacco throw the ball basically 50 times. I mean, you know, he's going to go out there and throw the ball so much. But it was against a very difficult defense and Flacco could not move. I mean, when he had to, when he had to run, man, it looked like Andy out there trying to pick up the first down.

[Andy Holloway]

I take that as a compliment.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. You look like an NFL athlete. Joe Flacco, let me.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me lay it out for you. Okay. The good 90 passing attempts in two games. Joe Flacco. The bad. The bad. I mean, Joe Flacco's got two total touchdowns and three interceptions and he's taken some sacks and there's. I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

I am not. He's not everything, right? Like, he's okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's. He's not good enough to where you have to start him in bad matchups and not him. Obviously you're not going to start Joe Flacco because he doesn't move. But his weapons, I think in decent matchups, you're fine. Starting now, next week, Green Bay packers, who I think might have the best defense in the league. Yeah. That's where. Okay, I'm not going to trust that Flacco is able to get the ball downfield accurately with pressure in his face.

[Andy Holloway]

And you're not going to be able to trust Cam Ord to do that with Calvin Ridley. I think Calvin Ridley, another dud game. Three for 57. Okay, whatever. But let's look at this. We didn't get to mention Epic aisle Manor, who we should have in the studs because he did catch a touchdown pass and was heavily involved again. But through two weeks, fancy points per game. Iowa Manor ahead of Ridley. Target percentage. Ridley's at 23%, IO manners at 21%. By the way, Iowa Manor, 100% of snaps this week. Targets per game, 7 and 6.5 receiving yards per game, 42 and 34. It's close enough to where one guy is sitting on waivers in 95% of leagues. The other guy was drafted.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, I o. Manor, I think, is the wide receiver you want going forward, forward especially, you know, the longer that the season goes, the more that the young guy will get better. I am very skeptical of what we've seen from Cam Ward through two weeks. Obviously, week one, very difficult defense this game, a very difficult defense. So Indianapolis is coming to town. We'll learn more next week. But like his, his highlight. Cam Ward's highlight was a awesome pass. Awesome pass was a cautionary tale. It was. You know who we've seen make really cool plays like that?

[Andy Holloway]

Russell Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

Will Levis.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, it looked like a Will Levis play.

[Jason Moore]

Where it was.

[Mike Wright]

It was awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

He ran around who should not be named in Tennessee.

[Mike Wright]

You didn't see the play. He had pressure come in the pocket. He weirdly runs towards the pressure and. But awesomely, awesomely runs to the right side of the field. He's scrambling and then arm strength throws. So, I mean, such a difficult body, 40 yards in the air over coverage, like 80 yards and touchdown. Awesome highlight, but it was like epic. You don't want to do that. You don't want to throw that ball.

[Jason Moore]

It looked like a 40 yard pass, but how many yards did he actually accumulate from it? Because it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was. It was like 10 yards. It was ill advised and yet worked. So we'll just be happy there. By the way, this is why Zach Ertz's name is coming up. Because.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Sam Laporte, 3 for 26. Mark Andrews 1 for 2. TJ Hawkinson, 1 for 12. Evan Ingram, 1 for 12. David Najoku, 4 for 40 with Harold Fannin involved again. Kyle Pitts dipped back down to 4 for 37. You have reasons to start trying to find an emerging higher target option. The way that all of these drafted tight ends like Hawkinson, Hawkinson. I would move four catches in two games.

[Jason Moore]

Mark Andrews should not be allowed back in this list rest of year.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Because there's not big boy pants.

[Jason Moore]

You need big boy pants. We are. I, I have no idea.

[Andy Holloway]

Drop a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

I have no idea what will be. Oh, he did.

[Andy Holloway]

And it was just, it was like, what?

[Jason Moore]

There's no way I'm playing Mark Andrews. Hawkinson, I would play. I think I'd play Ertz over him while J.J. mcCarthy's getting everything figured out. Evan Ingram. Yeah, Najoku. I'd still stick with him and Laporta then.

[Andy Holloway]

I am not on Nijoku anymore. No, no, I'm not. Personally, I understand why you want to say at 45 passing attempts, but look, you either have to say that I mean, what do you think of Harold Fan?

[Mike Wright]

Harold Fannin is a good player who will be on the field and do exactly what he's doing the first two weeks, the rest of the season.

[Andy Holloway]

So do you have confidence in both of those guys?

[Mike Wright]

Kind of. I think both are startable.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Obviously, if an injury happens to either one, the other becomes, I think, a top five tight end every single week. Yeah, I mean, fan. And had basically the same line as Najoku.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I don't, I don't have it in front of me, but it's kind of my worry.

[Jason Moore]

5 for 48. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I think maybe the worry is that you won't really get any ceiling there. Two touchdowns through two weeks if you don't score. Are you ever happy? I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. It's. It's a. It's a floor play where you. You can start either one of them, but you're not getting 15 points out of either.

[Jason Moore]

The next two weeks are tough, but then the schedule does kind of open up for a stretch, so maybe you want to give it away from the Cleveland guys until then.

[Andy Holloway]

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