Week 2 Waivers + QB Streamers, Buy Low Targets

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Week 2 Waivers + QB Streamers, Buy Low Targets
Release Date: September 10, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Introduction

In this episode, the Fantasy Footballers delve into the critical early-season decisions surrounding waiver wire pickups, quarterback streaming options, and identifying buy low targets after the tumultuous Week 1 performances. Hosted by Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright, the trio provides expert analysis, lively debates, and actionable advice to help fantasy managers navigate the early weeks of the NFL season.

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Week One Recap and Waiver Wire Overview

The hosts begin by reflecting on Week 1, emphasizing that past performances should not dictate future decisions.

Andy Holloway [03:30]:
"Last year after week one, I wanted to go back and look to see what the fantasy finishes were like... but none of the players that finished in the top 15 last year would have returned year-long value at all."

Jason Moore concurs, highlighting the variability of Week 1 performances and advising listeners to approach waiver wire pickups with a fresh perspective.

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Buy Low Targets

The discussion shifts to identifying players who underperformed in Week 1 but possess potential for significant improvement.

Andy Holloway [05:03]:
"My favorites are all of the Buccaneers: Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, O.J. Howard."
He explains that despite a rough start, these players have upside that savvy fantasy managers can exploit.

Jason Moore [06:06]:
“Evans is a fantastic target coming off of that performance... Juju Smith Schuster is still in on the Steelers offense.”
He emphasizes the importance of understanding player roles and team dynamics when targeting buy low candidates.

Mike Wright [06:58]:
“James Conner had the worst possible game script against the Patriots... looking forward to better performances ahead.”

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Player Performance Insights

The hosts analyze specific player performances from Week 1, offering insights into their fantasy potential.

Saints vs. Bears Game Highlights [09:34 - 12:00]:

• Alvin Kamara: Outstanding workload with 13 carries for 97 yards and 7 receptions, indicating high value.

  Andy Holloway [12:27]:
  “He was a beast. 13 for 97, seven receptions. He was a beast.”

• Dallas Cowboys: Dalvin Cook and Alvin Kamara showed impressive performances, reinforcing their status as top RBs.

• Cortland Sutton: Mixed feelings about his performance, with high potential but inconsistent game flow.

  Jason Moore [16:43]:
  “He was looking like a true NFL receiver making contested catches, running great routes.”

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Waiver Wire Recommendations

Wide Receivers

Marquis Brown (Miami Dolphins) [28:09]:

• Andy Holloway:
  “Spending 5 to 8 FAB on him; he should be a fantastic long-term stash.”

• Jason Moore:
  “I would spend at least 15 FAB on Marquis Brown.”

John Ross vs. John Brown vs. John Brown vs. Michael Gallup:

• Jason Moore:
  “John Brown is the number one wide receiver on the Buffalo Bills... John Ross had a great breakout.”

• Andy Holloway:
  Prefers John Brown over John Ross for staying power and consistency.

• Mike Wright:
  Advocates for Cortland Sutton due to his physical gifts and team role.

Running Backs

Gio Bernard (Cincinnati Bengals) [43:17]:

• Jason Moore:
  “I would throw a couple of bucks at him and see if he trickles through the waiver system.”

• Andy Holloway:
  Less interested compared to other options, highlighting the depth at RB.

Malcolm Brown vs. Chris Thompson:

• Jason Moore:
  “Chris Thompson is my number one pickup.”

• Mike Wright:
  “Raheem Mostert is one of my top RB pickups.”

Tight Ends

TJ Hawkinson vs. Darren Waller:

• Jason Moore [50:13]:
  “Hawkinson has a higher ceiling... Waller is more consistent.”

• Andy Holloway:
  Prefers Darren Waller for stability but acknowledges Hawkinson's potential.

Notable Quotes:

Andy Holloway [50:24]:
"TJ Hawkinson is worth 15 FAB on a $100 budget."

Mike Wright [50:38]:
"Hawkinson is a downfield threat and likely one of the best tight ends of the decade."

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Quarterback Streamers

The hosts discuss strategies for streaming quarterbacks, focusing on Week 2 matchups.

Big Ben Roethlisberger vs. Josh Allen vs. Dak Prescott:

• Andy Holloway [58:50]:
  “Big Ben has a good matchup at home against Seattle. He finished outside the top 12 only five times last year.”

• Jason Moore [58:07]:
  “Josh Allen is inconsistent but has rushing touchdowns and big-play potential.”

• Mike Wright [59:25]:
  “Dak Prescott is a must-pickup and must-start going forward.”

Notable Strategies:

• Dropping underperforming QBs like Baker Mayfield for higher upside options.
• Considering matchups, such as Big Ben facing a struggling Seahawks secondary.

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Defensive Streamers

Focusing on defenses that can provide high fantasy points through sacks, turnovers, and stops.

Suggested Defenses:

• Tennessee Titans [63:04]:
  “Impressed with their defensive line; face the Colts this week.”

• Buffalo Bills [63:33]:
  “Great defense facing Eli Manning and the Giants; high interception potential.”

• Carolina Panthers [61:47]:
  “Strong defensive line, especially against Jameis Winston’s passing tendencies.”

Andy Holloway [61:21]:
"Defense versus offense, you want defenses that can capitalize on turnovers and sacks."

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News and Notes

Updates on player injuries and statuses affecting fantasy decisions.

Key Updates:

• Joe Mixon (Cincinnati Bengals): Ankle sprain, day-to-day with a chance to play in Week 2.

  Andy Holloway [17:52]:
  “This is not a high ankle; best case for Mixon to play Sunday.”

• Tevin Coleman (Chicago Bears): High ankle sprain, likely out for 4 weeks.

• Sterling Shepard (New York Giants): Placed in concussion protocol after Week 1.

• Sammy Watkins (Philadelphia Eagles): Injury updates with Tyreek Hill potentially out for 6-7 weeks.

Notable Quotes:

Andy Holloway [07:26]:
"Philadephia looks great, but uncertainty around Antonio Brown's availability."

Mike Wright [21:07]:
"We did get word that the leaderboard series capped at 500 last week. It filled up very quickly."

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Conclusion

Wrapping up the episode, the hosts reiterate the importance of active management in the early weeks, encouraging listeners to leverage waiver wire pickups and streaming options to optimize their teams. They also highlight their social media presence and how fans can engage with the show’s content on platforms like YouTube and Twitter.

Andy Holloway [65:47]:
"Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on joinetfoot.com and follow us on Twitter @the_ffballers."

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Notable Quotes

• Andy Holloway [02:33]:
  "He ruled that kingdom this past weekend." (Referring to Sammy Watkins)

• Mike Wright [07:17]:
  “Uncle Bill looked unfathomably good.” (Commenting on the Patriots' defense)

• Jason Moore [16:43]:
  “He was looking like a true NFL receiver making contested catches.” (About Cortland Sutton)

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the Fantasy Footballers' Week 2 episode, providing valuable takeaways for fantasy managers seeking to enhance their teams in the early NFL season.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

It's Cortland Sutton, wide receiver for the Denver Broncos. And you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in. All your championships have been figured out.

[Jason Moore]

We did it.

[Andy Holloway]

We made it through another year. No week one is in the books, but there's a lot of football still to come. Tuesday, September 10th, the fantasy footballers. Andy, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

And we have a special guest today, actually.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it the lizard king himself?

[Jason Moore]

No, I mean, I'm sure he'll show up from time to time because that's what he does. No, but Sam Elliott, legendary beef brisket, legendary Hollywood actor Beef Wellington is sitting in with us. Welcome to the show, Sam.

[Mike Wright]

Mongolian beef.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason Moore is kind of here.

[Mike Wright]

I will speak when spoken to and.

[Andy Holloway]

You will speak in a strange and disturbing lizard tenor.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I wish I was.

[Jason Moore]

Imagine lizard had high pitched voices.

[Andy Holloway]

Not, not all of you. You picture a, one of those big old Komodo dragons. They got high pitched voices.

[Jason Moore]

No, but when you say lizard, that's not the first thing I go to.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. I mean, there are a lot of species. I learned a lot about lizards over the last week.

[Jason Moore]

So when you, when someone says lizard, you, that's, that's the one you go to in your.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's the one I go to with that voice. Not with a little wall lizard. No. I learned a lot about lizards this morning and through the weekend, to be honest with you. You know the famous quote where Sammy Watkins said that the earth is flat, the football field's flat, and that's all that really matters.

[Jason Moore]

That's all that matters to us.

[Andy Holloway]

He ruled that kingdom this past weekend. Jason was smiling from his fevered bedroom.

[Jason Moore]

He thought it was fever.

[Andy Holloway]

Delirious. Yeah, you'd think you were ill. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I didn't know what was going on. It felt good. I'm proud of you, Sammy. Keep, keep Slaying those humans.

[Andy Holloway]

He needs to do it over and over again. But it looks like the table is set for him to do so. Yes, today's the waiver show. We've got full stream ahead, some quarterback streaming options for you. We have defense versus offense with some defensive streaming options. We have news and notes. We have a lot of reactions to both Monday Night Football and the big weekend. I do want to remind people before the show starts and I tweeted this out this morning. Last year after week one, I wanted to go back and look to see what the fantasy finishes were like. Kenny Stills, number three on the week. Isaiah Correll, number three on the week.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, so Kenny Stills was awesome last year in week one, correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he wasn't really awesome yesterday. He caught one pass.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, certainly.

[Andy Holloway]

But Randall Cobb was number six. Jaya John, are you signing Kenny Stills, Mike?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, I just was saying just.

[Andy Holloway]

Trying to victory lap Kenny Stills in week one. I'm sure he's weird.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go look up his actual finish.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a really weird flex. Jay Ajayi, Dion Lewis, Will Disley, Jesse James, these were all top 10 guys. In fact, I looked last year and I don't think it applies to this waiver show. But none of the players that finished in that top 15 last year that would have been waiver wire pickups at, you know, wide receiver, running back, tight end that could have been out on the waiver wire. I don't think any of them returned year long value at all. So I mean if you picked up, you know, I guess it would have been Dion Lewis was was drafted last year. But the Jesse James is Will Disley's Kenny Stills. You just need to breathe. That's all I'm saying is we all need to breathe as fantasy owners. And we're going to talk about all the different potential pickups and the staying power and I'm sure we'll disagree on some guys, but the decision is up to you. Foot Clan. It's up to you on who you want to pick up.

[Jason Moore]

We just bring our information.

[Andy Holloway]

We do, we do. But I want to get into a quick question. I think this is a great one for week one. Name your favorite buy low player that you are targeting in trades this week. Because if there's ever a time to take advantage of a tilting fantasy football owner, it would be week one when all their hopes and dreams were smashed by subpar performances by their superstars. Am I right?

[Jason Moore]

You are correct. And there was a lot of superstars that had really Rough week one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And so I'll answer with my favorites and I will actually say all of the Buccaneers. So Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, O.J. howard, I would be targeting all three of them. And Jameis Winston was so difficult to look at with your eyeballs that the hideous Jameis will distort the real fantasy outcomes for this team and for what Bruce Aarons will be able to accomplish with this downfield offense. Mike Evans was sick. Chris Godwin salvaged his game with a touchdown. O.J. howard. Some drops, some lower snap count than I would have hoped. So I think there is a better future for fantasy now. I. If you're the Buccaneers and you're hoping for a Super bowl title, I'm not enthusiastic about Jameis, but for fantasy purposes, I would be targeting all the Bucks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I completely agree. I think that Evans is a fantastic target coming off of that performance. The guy I want to throw out. It wasn't horrific for juju Smith Schuster. He still had, you know, an okay day considering what happened to the Pittsburgh Steelers, but people were hoping for a lot from juju and it just. The Patriots, this is what they do. Jason, you were talking about this last week before the game happened that you love juju. But week one is definitely a concern against Uncle Bill and the Patriots because they always shut down number one options. Just look what they've done in the past two number one guys like Tyree Kill, DeAndre Hopkins, like Big name wide receivers play against the Patriots and they get shut down. This is just what happens. So I'm, I'm still in on juju Smith Schuster and I'm still in on the Steelers offense.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And for me it's, it's very similar is James Conner because they were. The Pittsburgh Steelers were down 20 to nothing in the blink of an eye. The worst possible game script for James Conner. And you know the Patriots, man, did they look unfathomably good.

[Jason Moore]

They look like it's impossible to beat them.

[Mike Wright]

I wanted to ask you, Andy, you have seen the future and you said that the Philadelphia Eagles win the Super Bowl.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

But how do you feel about that now after seeing.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Look, I posted 18 and oh for the Patriots. I didn't post 19 and oh. So yes, I don't think it'll be the Giants breaking up that perfect season. But Philadelphia, same division. I'm cool with that.

[Mike Wright]

Very nice.

[Andy Holloway]

But no, they look great. And then you've got Uncle Bill equivocating on whether Antonio Brown's gonna play for them this week, which is a real possibility. I mean, it's possible they don't feel the need.

[Mike Wright]

They don't need him this week.

[Andy Holloway]

They may bench a couple extra other guys just for safety.

[Jason Moore]

We're going to play with nine guys.

[Mike Wright]

Brady, sit this one out. The reality is every single league out there has that owner that tilts week one. We have them in our league and you have to go and trade for whoever did not do well this week. Trade away whoever did well. You know what I mean? Like, just, just find the guys that like Mike Evans is a perfect example because if they're not paying attention, they don't know about the illness, they don't know about the snap counts well, and.

[Andy Holloway]

You'Re not trying, you're. What you're trying to do is say, I don't know. Here's a good example. I obviously believe in the Colts offense. I believe in Ty Hilton. Ty Hilton scored twice this week. You know, he's, he's on average what a 6, 7 touchdown a year guy, right? He scored twice this week. If you can go flip Ty Hilton for Mike Evans, sure. That's the, that's the recipe, the super high. You're, you know, you're not going to steal Mike Evans for, you know, Hollywood Brown or somebody. You're not going to steal him for a one week no name. But for Ty Hilton, a big name, that's a possibility. I almost put James Conner in as my buy low. Even though I'm not a believer in the Steelers long term, his performance this week, there's a lot of brighter days ahead for James Conner. He's just too. Look, you can't give. Can't give. Don C. Moncrief 10 targets. You, you need to use juju and you need to use Connor and whether more teams are capable of taking those guys away like Bill Belichick, I doubt it. I doubt it. And, and so just utilization wise, it makes sense. Follow us on Twitter @ the ffballers Jason just passed 100,000 followers. Congratulations this morning.

[Mike Wright]

We did it.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason. FFL Mike is @ffhitman. I'm @andy Holloway and the show. Like I said@the ffballers on YouTube. We're on Patreon jointhefoot.com We encourage you to join our fantasy football community. It has been a very, very fun ride over the last four plus years. I'm so appreciative to all of the foot clan that have been with us throughout this ride. We love what we're doing and we're thankful that you guys like the show and we're going to keep doing it as far as I'm concerned. Quick reactions to last night the Saints game was incredible. I've never seen a situation where you know, oh, does desean Watson have this in him? Two throws later, it's over. The drive's over. He's just, he is so incredibly good that the pain the Bears fans must feel over passing on Mahomes and Watson. I mean it's just the pain. He's so good. He got sacked 10 times or 6 times say the pain.

[Jason Moore]

Watson feels like Watson deserves better around him because he single not single handedly because Hopkins was an absolute monster. But Watson won that game and then they said let's hit him with the pre defense when all they need is a field goal. Come on guys, we need to do better.

[Andy Holloway]

Well the funny thing about that game, and I heard it argued on SiriusXM fantasy sports radio this morning was that an argument could be made that it would have been better for Houston to miss the extra point than to make it. Because if you missed it, the they're driven back. They're at the 25. They're not. They don't have the imminence to drive down the field on two throws and kick a field goal. Game probably goes to overtime. You're not put in that. It's just a funny argument to think about because I think it might be right.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think the Saints would have done that.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think the Saints I do not think that they kicked that field goal in a neutral game script because you just more risk. Just much more risk. You go to overtime, you're at home, win the game. It's funny but it was an incredible ballgame. Just unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

It was fantastic. The big the thing that was interesting to me was well it not so much interesting but for Alvin Kamara what the actual workload he got was incredible. He was on the field a ton. He is going to be an absolute beast.

[Andy Holloway]

There are three players this this weekend that I thought eyeball test like when you use your use the film to guide you. 3 Player I'm not counting Saquon. Saquon always looks incredible. He would be the fourth. Dalvin Cook looked incredible this weekend. Cowboys in general, especially Dak Prescott and then Alvin Camara. I every single time he touched the ball last night I thought he was going to go 75 to the house. Every single time.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Incredible balance. 13 for 97, seven receptions. He was a beast. Latavius Murray only had six total carries. He did have the big touchdown run that will distort the narrative. Alvin Camara.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, it will.

[Andy Holloway]

The guy, he's the RB 1 and 2.

[Jason Moore]

Sure. And then on the other side of the ball, Carlos Hyde started the game. The Duke Johnson truthers were, were out there. They were bare chested, they were painted up. And then Carlos Hyde came, came onto the field.

[Andy Holloway]

8.3 a carry.

[Jason Moore]

And then.

[Mike Wright]

Well, yeah, I was gonna say he didn't look slow or bad. He actually looked pretty decent out there. But we, you know, we said this could happen. I mean we, we gave shout outs to Alfred Blue of saying don't be shocked if Carlos Hyde comes in and gets the workload.

[Jason Moore]

Can you trust either of these players though? Only 10 carries for Carlos Hyde. Yeah, he was super efficient. I'm not going to count on that every week. Nine carries for Duke Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm fine with Duke Johnson as a flex. I am because he's, he got about the same amount of carries and he had four receptions. And that's going to keep happening with, with DeSean Watson running for his life. You know, it's going to take time apparently for Laramie Tunzel to block somebody. It was a bad night for him. I loved the tweet. You don't spell turnstile without Tunzel.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, come on.

[Andy Holloway]

He gave up a huge sack on the biggest play of the game.

[Jason Moore]

He did.

[Andy Holloway]

He was consistently beat all night. But it will get better for that offensive line slightly at least when he gets acclimated.

[Mike Wright]

It was just an awesome game. And it was capped off of course with a boom boom. I mean, unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you called that one, man.

[Mike Wright]

I mean the excellent work, the months of research in knowing that Will Lutz was going to be the boom boom of the week. It was ironclad, locked and loaded.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's absolutely right. Broncos, Raiders. It's difficult to watch Del Flacco play football. 6.3 per attempt last night. He already was at the NFL low 6.4 over the last few years. The Broncos. The Raiders. The Raiders look good. The Raiders have a running back, Josh Jacobs, 23 for 85, two touchdowns. They have a wide receiver and Tyrell Williams six for 105 and one. And the path is clean for him. And they have a tight end. Oh, goo goo bajoo.

[Jason Moore]

Goodness, if you were not on Twitter last night, you missed out. I was hyped be out of my mind for Darren Waller just immediately. And it was. You didn't have to wait. That's what was so fantastic about it. The game starts and before you know it, he's 2 for 35. Or whatever he was at. He was heavily involved. He was. He played every single snap of the game. They're lining him up in the slot. They're lining him up out wide. Yes, the targets are short a la a Dennis Pitt a target, but he is going to break a few of those because he's so athletically gifted. And the passing offense is Williams and Darren Waller.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that the game plan that Jon Gruden brought into this game was very smart. What you saw with Derek Carr, who went 22 for 26 and 259 and 1, what you saw was a, you know, he'd look for first read downfield and then he had a leaking. Darren Waller on every play that he could turn to. Josh Jacobs had a monster game one reception, 23 carries. The game script was favorable to Jacobs in terms of wearing out the clock. So I don't know if you see 23 of a week, but on the other side, you know, Royce Freeman, 10 carries, Philip Lindsay, 11 carries. Joe Flacco was acclimating. And then, you know, Cortland Sutton 7 for 120, Emmanuel Sanders 5 for 86. It took Emmanuel Sanders about two and a half quarters before he was really even getting targeted in this game and then became the guy over the back half, which was super bizarre. I. You guys can have. I mean, I don't know what your opinion is on Cortland Sutton. I certainly am not buying Cortland Sutton. He's not on my waiver watch list at all.

[Jason Moore]

He's definitely on mine.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he would definitely be on mine as well. I mean, he, he was drafted to be a star. Physically, he's gifted. He's a, he's an incredible athlete. And what you saw on the field was him looking like a true NFL receiver making contested catches, running great routes. Now, I don't love this offense. I certainly don't love the quarterback, but I think Cortland Sutton should be in the. In consideration, among others, for a waiver wire pickup.

[Andy Holloway]

Or we'll get to all the wide receiver names and then we'll throw those at you and see if you'd rather have Cortland Sutton on your team. I just think the. I think there's gonna be volatility on this offense. Oh, yeah, yeah, certainly.

[Jason Moore]

We're not saying that he's a number one by any means, but it's like he. This is his second year. I mean, this, this looked like a wide receiver who took the next step. He was. It was not just force feeding Cortland Sutton. It was Sutton was wide open and Joe Flacco loves a wide open wide.

[Andy Holloway]

Receiver, preferably close to the line of scrimmage. Yes. Let's get into the news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league presented by Sleeper.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Joe Mixon update. Ankle sprain. There were some reports that I saw this morning that he has a chance to play on Sunday. They're calling it a day to day injury. This is not a high ankle. This is best case scenario for mixing owners.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. Well it is. I expect that he will try to push to play. I mean it's which kind of stinks because Gio Bernard was an obvious waiver wire pickup. If Mixon is going to miss time, I think that Geo still is a good pickup and hopefully Mixon does not re aggravate.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yep. Tevin Coleman high ankle sprain. Those normally come with a two to six week recovery window. That's a wide range. I would be leaning towards missing him for four weeks or so. And Matt Breida will take over as the lead running back there. And the colonel and colonel Mustard, Raheem Mostert. He's somebody that if you are in desperate need of a running back to play that will have work. He will have work.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he will.

[Andy Holloway]

Darius Geist dealing with a meniscus injury. He hopes to return in a few weeks. I am not as optimistic because the recovery of Darius guys has been a, you know, longer term thing with previous injury. You're going to have Adrian Peterson behind center over the next few weeks. I almost dropped him. I don't know if you heard the show yesterday, Jason. I was real close to dropping him on Sunday when he got marked inactive just to take the shot on John Brown. Jameson Crowder.

[Jason Moore]

Now to be fair, John Brown was the player you would have added at this point would do you wish that had gone through after John Brown's huge game?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I don't. Because it's more difficult to find starting running backs than it is weekly Flyers at the wide receiver position. So I just think there's so many wide outs out there that you can.

[Jason Moore]

There's a lot this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And there will be. It will be all the guys that score one touchdown next week that aren't on teams and that's the part we have to wade through. Who's got the staying power? Sterling shepherd placed in the concussion protocol. His had a pretty disappointing week one so we'll monitor that. Juju Smith Schuster who limped off had X rays on the toe expected to be fine for week two. Baker Mayfield Underwent precautionary X rays on his injured hand and ego after week one and getting whooped by the Titans. He's okay. Sammy Watkins, Tyreek Hill. Oh, well, Sammy Watkins said Tyreek Hill will be out six to seven weeks.

[Jason Moore]

He also said the earth is flat.

[Andy Holloway]

He did. And that he's a lizard and he's.

[Jason Moore]

A lizard man and he's the king of the lizards.

[Andy Holloway]

So I don't think. I don't think he. Let me just correct you. I don't want to misspeak because he would be embarrassed if he thought you said that. He did not claim to be the king of the lizards. Mike. We claim that on his behalf, inferring his massive talent would lead him to the top of the lizard regime.

[Mike Wright]

I genuinely believe that if he is a lizard person, he deserves to be.

[Andy Holloway]

King after week one.

[Mike Wright]

I genuinely believe he is king of the lizard. He's cold blooded.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, no doubt about it. He's cold blooded. I just didn't want to misquote him because he would be embarrassed.

[Jason Moore]

That's fair. We don't want to make him say weird things.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we make sure we turn to him for some life advice later in the show?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, 100%. I'll check through his Twitter feed and see what we can pull up.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you. Nick Foles placed on injured reserve with the designation to return the collarbone injury. The Secret Garden himself, Gardner Minshew, by.

[Jason Moore]

The way, he balled out, man.

[Andy Holloway]

So he balled out. But I wonder what that says. You know, you're trying to project the defensive situation in the. In football, this. This.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't just take week one and project it over the whole season. And you can't take last year because there's turnover.

[Jason Moore]

But when you put them together.

[Andy Holloway]

Chiefs. The Chiefs. You might stream against the Chiefs. That's all I'm saying.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. I am not afraid to stream quarterbacks against the Chiefs.

[Andy Holloway]

22 for 25 to start his career. 88 completion percentage because no one knows the secret. Do you think he trolled Drew Brees with that completion percentage after week one?

[Mike Wright]

Definitely.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he did. Drew. Did you see him in the press conference? He certainly hangs out with Hunter Renfro. They are close.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, doing like, tax forms.

[Andy Holloway]

There are certain players that you just look at and you're like, really?

[Jason Moore]

Like, this guy's gonna get me a better rate for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. There's certain guys you look at and say, this guy's gonna give me a better rate on my car insurance. Colts placed Evan Funches on injured reserve. This is a huge swing and a miss in Indianapolis on a one year deal to lose funches for the season. The collarbone injury, that stinks. So yeah, I mean, look for Deon Kane to step up.

[Jason Moore]

We'll see.

[Andy Holloway]

Look for some integration of Paris Campbell over time.

[Jason Moore]

And this could be great news for the tight ends. I think they're the biggest benefactors who, they were not very involved. I, I mean it's, you still have to be concerned, but with funches out, I wouldn't just drop them and move on yet.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

I've already got it, my man.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Put me in, coach.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Week one waiver show. We're here.

[Mike Wright]

I'm really excited for this because I was not with you two gentlemen for watching football, for talking about the fallout of everything.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why we're still healthy and alive.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

You're welcome. I stayed away as long as I could, but I'm really excited because I don't know how much we agree or disagree on some of these names and this is the first chance that I get to debate with you guys on this.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And I hope that that serves as the advantage of listening to a show with three hosts on it where we're not sitting here trying to. I mean, we will agree and we will bring those consensus forward. That's what the UDK had with sleepers and breakouts and busts. But we're going to disagree too and help you form your opinion. This is the time of the season now where you pivot from. Look, we're out of draft season. You've set the foundation for your team, but you don't win the title there. This is the time when you are now adjusting, readjusting, modifying your team. You know, strategically looking at trades like we opened the show with, this is the time to make your run. I mean, build your team. This is the time of year when George Kittle was purchased for a kittle last year.

[Jason Moore]

44 fab, certainly.

[Andy Holloway]

So couple reminders, last week's points, they do not count for the upcoming week, believe it or not. But no, last week's points don't count. We're projecting forward. There are probably a lot of players that we'll talk through in terms of drop options this week, players that. Are we comfortable with you kicking to the curb or do you need to hold on for another week. Those type of guys. So we'll have drop it like it's hot tomorrow. That's a segment we do where look at what players were dropped by teams after the waiver wire. There are going to be. And here's a little spoiler alert. My streaming quarterback option this week is on the basis of him being dropped on waivers today.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So pay attention there, wide receivers. Let's look at the main waiver wire names this week and talk about opinions. The biggest one that I want to debate is Marquis Brown. Hollywood Brown, because he had quite the debut as a rookie. 4 for 147 and 2 now he only ran 8 routes in the game. He was targeted on 5 of the 8 routes he only played.

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty solid though.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, clearly it was a to me strategic decision to say Hollywood Brown is banged up when he's on the field. We're going to use him and then we're going to take him off the field and keep him healthy. Only 12 total snaps, only ran eight routes. There are some that, you know, they want to throw the warning lights up and say, well he only ran 12 snaps. How could you possibly invest in him? Spend your fab dollars a waiver pick up on Hollywood Brown. There's the side we talked about yesterday though where it's like he only ran eight routes and he was this productive and clearly he's dealing with an injury and building a rapport with Lamar Jackson. But it's the Miami Dolphins. So how are you wading through the Marquis Brown conundrum on waiver wires? Because it's not so much. Is he worth a pickup? Of course he's worth the flyer.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The question is how much would you spend on him?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the amount you that I would spend on Marquis Brown. That's. That's extremely difficult because he is 100% a must add. But you still might be waiting like the breakout happened. We all got to see it. But it wouldn't shock me even though they're in a very plus matchup against the Arizona Cardinals if next week Marquis Brown is one reception for 15 yards. Like that's in the realm of possibilities. Unfortunately for Marquis Brown as he works his way into the game. But the, the waiver wire is not just about what do I need today, it's what do I need tomorrow. And Marquis Brown looks like he should be a fantastic long term stash that that you can play in a pinch.

[Mike Wright]

So here's.

[Jason Moore]

I mean I'm paying. I'm going at least 15% for Marquis Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's very interesting. He's got Arizona, Kansas City on and.

[Jason Moore]

I'm talking about my.

[Andy Holloway]

How much fab.

[Jason Moore]

I would spend.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct. You know he's going to be a boom dependent player to a degree. This is not a passing offense. Look, Lamar Jackson looked amazing. I'm the biggest Lamar Jackson fan in the world. But you still have to understand this is going to be an offense. You got Mark Andrews who was heavily involved in week one, Willie Snead. You know you have other options. So I think that the road is not going to be a consistent one for Marquis Brown.

[Jason Moore]

Agreed.

[Andy Holloway]

So I'm not going to spend up on Marquis Brown. I will spend. I would probably only spend, you know, five to eight. Fab. If you're in a hundred dollar league, I'd probably spend five to eight dollars. That's probably all I'm going. Jason, you have been.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm dying over here. I just, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you want to write down what your opinion is and then we'll share it.

[Mike Wright]

I have always loved Hollywood Brown. Always from college. He's unbelievable. I'm dead.

[Jason Moore]

You sound ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

The schedule says pick him up and play him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the schedule. Because it's not just the Cardinals, it's the Chiefs following that and then the Cleveland Browns. So we're talking what looks like three fantastic matchups to start the season.

[Andy Holloway]

To be clear, Jason has loved Hollywood Browns since he was one of the sheriffs with Wyatt Earp back in the 1800s. Right.

[Mike Wright]

Those are my people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I. So let's turn to some other players that were in that boom category with the speed. John Brown, 7 for 123, had the game winning touchdown. John Ross 7 for 158 and 2 on 12 targets and played 82% of the snaps. So if you look at John Brown, if you look at John Ross, John and John, who do you prefer out of that group?

[Jason Moore]

Man, that's. That's tough. I think John Brown is the number one wide receiver on the Buffalo Bills. This like I'm. This is where we are 10 targets. And we saw last year at the end of the season when Josh Allen came back, his number one wide receiver can have sustained production, can have big games over and over and over. And that's what John Brown does. And he's also got two great matchups coming up with the Giants and the Bengals. John Ross is. His breakout was great. I went back and I watched every single target that John Ross received and he looked fantastic. I mean he was, he ran excellent routes. He was getting open There was even a couple that, that were missed throws by Andy Dalton. He also, John Ross had a drop across the middle where he probably would have scored another 50 yard touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we pour one out for all the players stifled by head coaches that are stupid? Because yes, you look at. I would, I would be kicking John Ross to the waiver wire curb today if Marvin Lewis was his head coach. I would have no interest in the flash in the pan. Now I will say this. I prefer both John Brown and Hollywood Brown to John Ross.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

And that is on the basis of staying power. I'm very curious to see what happens against San Francisco. Their secondary look really quite, quite good against Jameis Winston in week one and Mike Evans, Chris Godwin. But John Ross's staying power is not season long. AJ Green will return and you will be put in a position where you're, you have to answer the question mentally, am I starting the number three passing option for Andy Dalton? And I'm never going to answer yes to that question. You cannot make me do that. A.J. green and Tyler Boyd are better starts than John Ross when A.J. green is back. So I like the longer term play on John Brown because you know, you probably a lot of these guys, you're not putting them in your lineup in week two. Maybe you are, maybe you need to. But for a lot of them you don't need to because you have other guys and there weren't a lot of injuries at wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

That's funny because all three of these guys, Ross against the 49ers, Brown against or John Brown against the Giants and Marquis Brown against Arizona. I would play all three of these guys so far.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll put that to the test later this week because I'm not saying that you can't start them. I'm saying you probably won't because you've got other players you drafted higher that you know. Who are you going to bench?

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you going to play Robbie Anderson or are you going to play these guys? You know, those are the questions people are going to face because they spent the draft capital on Robbie Anderson late in drafts. Do I have any disagreement on the John Ross long term value?

[Jason Moore]

No. That should be what he's looking at. But also AJ Green, we won. You don't know when he's coming back to. He is at high risk for another re aggravation. AJ Green's body just, it feels like it's breaking down. But you are he. The team's plan at least is to have him back which will put John Ross into that number three role.

[Andy Holloway]

And you should be optimistic about AJ Green because he's AJ Green and. What was that? Do we need to wheel him out? Seriously, people, this is a podcast. People actually have to listen to.

[Mike Wright]

I'll be better.

[Andy Holloway]

Just hold the cough button down. Just. Is there a lock? Can we put the lock on it? What I was going to say is if you're optimistic about Zach Taylor, you should be very optimistic about A.J. green's upside.

[Jason Moore]

That's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Because this is a more innovative, better offense and A.J. green is one of the best players in football when he's healthy. Sure. Okay. Jameson Crowder had 17 targets. He had 14 receptions. He had 99 yards. He plays Cleveland next week. I don't. Brooks, can you do me a favor? Yes. Newly bald Brooks, by the way.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, bald and beautiful.

[Andy Holloway]

Bald and beautiful. Can you do a Quincy and Newell health check for me? I feel like that's probably a hotline that we can get into. Yeah, I'll die. But I know he limped off the field. I want to know his status. That depends. Everything about Jameson Crowder, picking him up, to me, considering playing in this week, has a lot to do with a new NAS Hill.

[Jason Moore]

So he's interesting to me because It's Adam Gase, Mr. B. Hole, as the head coach of the Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

And no matter how many times you call him that, it's equally insulting. Like, there's never a point when you become immune to being called Mr. B Hole.

[Jason Moore]

And we have seen him use a player like this before. This was Jarvis Landry of. Back when Gates was coaching the Dolphins. This is what happened. Huge amount of receptions, lower yardage In a standard league, I'm not really interested in Crowder, but in a PPR league, I am very interested because I'm not expecting 14 receptions a week, but Crowder certainly could be hitting that eight plus reception on a weekly basis.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it'll be interesting. I'm not really excited about him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm not excited. But in a ppr, he is a must add.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I don't disagree when you talk about Michael Gallup and what you saw on the field and with Keller Moore's offense. This is the player we saw in training camp in preseason. 7 for 158 on seven targets. Has Washington coming up this week. I'm personally very interested in Michael Gallup in all leagues. I was interested before the season. I'm more interested now after seeing what the offensive line is doing. Because I believe the math equation here. Offensive line protection for Dak Prescott, downfield routes For Michael Gallup, A +B equals big stat lines like this. Over the course of the season, he was on the field just as much as Amari Cooper, who has dealt with some injury concerns. I'm very, very excited for Michael Gallup and I'm more interested in Michael Gallup than I think, honestly, I'm more. I'd rather have them than anybody in this lineup, really in this group. I am. I know that's not a popular take. It's not going to be shared by very many, but I'm more interested in the passing volume and power of what this offense can do this year. I told you Dalvin Cook, Alvin Camara and the Cowboys were the things I was most impressed with on film. And I think that Michael Gallup has, you know, you're talking about, do you want, do you want John Brown, do you want the kind of number one for Josh Allen who's going to have some volatility, or do you want like the 1B, the 2 for Dak Prescott? That's your opinion. I mean, it's subjective. I'm just very excited for Michael Gallup because I think he will actually be.

[Mike Wright]

Very consistent this year at home against the Giants. You know, that was why Dak was my start of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not quite as excited. The wide receiver we haven't brought up that I'm as excited about as any. Terry McLaurin.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, really?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, welcome on board.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I'm, I'm all about him. He'd be my in my top three wide receivers this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Interesting.

[Jason Moore]

Wow. Very. Yeah. So McLaurin was on the field non stop 93% of the snaps. It was him and the Trey Quinn show. 5 for 125 with a score. And McLaurin is really, really fast.

[Mike Wright]

Their future.

[Jason Moore]

He is the future. He was a third round pick. He was.

[Mike Wright]

He was this.

[Jason Moore]

He was a rookie or I'm in rookie drafts for some reason.

[Andy Holloway]

He still is.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I'm in rookie drafts. People were not excited for McLaurin which was. Was baffling to me coming up with his athletic profile. And he was a third round pick like I was. I scooped him up off of waiver wires.

[Andy Holloway]

He also runs a 4, 3, 5.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he's super fast.

[Andy Holloway]

He was open for another touchdown in this game. Yes, the snap. That's one of the things you need to wade through. You know, you can have big play performances, but are you on the field? And he was on the field a lot. You know, I'm not as excited as Jason for the Long term value of Terry McLaren at all, because I see a quarterback transition happening on this team.

[Jason Moore]

You are. But.

[Andy Holloway]

And I think.

[Jason Moore]

What about the connection, though, that the two that Dwayne Haskins and McLaurin played together had already have tremendous chemistry. That doesn't factor into your. You're thinking of him long term, it.

[Andy Holloway]

Certainly factors into my dynasty. Thinking of Terry McLaurin, it doesn't necessarily factor into my short term because when I read all these other names and the opportunities they have, I'd rather have McColl Hardman than I would Terry McLaren.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, going into this extended absence for Tyree Kill, you know, I'd rather have a handful. I'd rather have Michael Gallup this year than I would Terry McLaurin.

[Jason Moore]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's a great debut. The rookies, they showed up, they showed out. A.J. brown, Miles Boykin, Hollywood Brown, Terry McLaurin. Speed killed week one.

[Jason Moore]

Absolutely.

[Andy Holloway]

But yeah, I'm not, I'm not as excited. He's only 4% owned, so you can take your shot on him. But I, you know, if he goes up against Dallas this week and gives you one for 30, I'll be. That will meet my expectations for McLaren.

[Jason Moore]

So where are you?

[Andy Holloway]

Fortunately, Jason. I will try to pose as Jason, who can't speak at the moment. He disagrees with me. He likes McLaurin a lot. Long term, he is.

[Jason Moore]

He needs an approval.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's sucking on some sort of lozenge. I shouldn't be really giving him the opportunity to rebuttal at all. I mean, this is my chance to shine against him.

[Jason Moore]

So question for you then. Where are you on McColl, Hardman, where the opportunity for him should be great.

[Andy Holloway]

I just brought him up. I like him a lot more than Terry McClure.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

So even though if I'm looking for a week one start this week, you'd go with Hardman. McCoy, Hardman's in my Dynasty lineup right now in the flex position for this upcoming week. No, Tyree Kill, he had great. He was on the field for a ton of snaps. I don't know if you have the number right in front of you, Mike, because you mentioned it yesterday, but McColl Hartman was out there a ton in week one, so, you know, do I want an opportunity to boom with a receiver on the Chiefs or the Redskins?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's my, that's my view there.

[Jason Moore]

I totally understand that because Hardman is a, he's another guy that I think everyone should be picking.

[Andy Holloway]

I would play McColl Hardman over John Ross this week.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And I'll water bet that I owe you guys a couple. I might not want to water Jason because I may give him pneumonia at this point. You want to water bet McColl Hardman this week versus John Ross.

[Jason Moore]

Very possible.

[Andy Holloway]

You can't say wow like that, Mike, and not say yes to a water bet.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, fine.

[Mike Wright]

Water bet.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I guess you could have taken back your wow. I mean that, that was.

[Jason Moore]

No, it's. It's just on the surface I get that the opportunity will be there for him. He still is competing with the Lizard King, meanwhile. And he had one target you can be. John Ross had 12 targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And that's why you should have taken the bet right out. Because I'm a fool. You're super smart. You can have a number one human receiver and number one lizard receiver on the same team.

[Jason Moore]

Ah, yes. So I overlooked that.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe I'm feeling a little bit just kind of like sure of myself after week one's bets. And this will be where the fool's decision. But betting on John Ross is also something that you shouldn't do any time you're about to eat or anything of that nature. Running back, waiver wire pickups. We need to move on to the running back position. Gio Bernard looked very interesting. Joe Mixon coming back, potentially playing this week. I'm curious where you're at with Geo. 7 for 21 on the ground, 2 for 42 through the air. Let's start there. Gio Bernard, how much fab budget would you really spend? Would you spend a waiver priority on him? No, I'm not that interested.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm not going to burn the number one priority. I'll throw a couple of bucks at him, see if he trickles through the waiver system and he just ends up on my team. But without. Without an absence for Joe Mixon. Like you said, Gio Bernard, nine total touches, seven carries and two receptions. Like that's not. That's not unbelievably interesting as a standalone player as of right now. But if mixing is to be out, then Gio Bernard against the 49ers, I think is a. Is a nice play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think I'm more interested in some of these other options. We'll see if you guys are Malcolm Brown, 12% owned, 11 for 53 and 2. You're not going to get two touchdowns from Malcolm Brown every week, but you might get one. Yeah, but the way this offense is.

[Jason Moore]

Are you willing to play him right away? He didn't play On a bunch of.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not excited.

[Jason Moore]

No 27%. It was still the Todd Gurley show. But those high leverage, high fantasy points came because Malcolm Brown. Malcolm Brown got the end zone carries.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you more interested in Malcolm Brown or Chris Thompson going into week two?

[Mike Wright]

Thompson.

[Jason Moore]

Thompson.

[Andy Holloway]

Sam Elliott weighed in. He's going with Chris Thompson. Other names to throw out there. Justin Jackson, who I thought despite only having seven touches in the game, I actually thought he looked good in those touches. But he's going to be out there. Justice Hill, whatever. Ronald Jones. Ronald Jones had a great game. Every time I turned my head over to the. To this Jameis Winston experience and saw him hand the ball off one, I was relieved. And two, Ronald Jones 13 for 75. This is a situation where if he breaks off a big run next week, he may. This might be his backfield.

[Jason Moore]

It won't be his backfield because he will never take the passing work you saw. He only had one target and Dari Agumba Wale was the primary pass catcher. Ronald Jones will never have that role. And if it's. What do you believe about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers? I believe they will be in negative game scripts far more often than they will be in a positive one.

[Andy Holloway]

It is a difficult one to wade through because Arians does make running backs very good.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

But then like you said, the game script problem, you might not see Ronald Jones on the field a ton. I actually thought their defense looked okay to me. I thought it was much better than last year. This is a game with San Francisco that was, you know, it was a little bit back and forth. Winston couldn't get out of his own way. That if you think about it. What did he throw? You know, a couple of interceptions. He threw a pick six. Yeah, the pick six goes up on the board. I mean, Tampa Bay gave up not a lot of, you know, production.

[Jason Moore]

I will pose this to you though, okay. Jameis Winston will still throw more. Pick six, very strong over the season. I'm just. Ronald Jones is a fine, low money, fab acquisition and just put him on the bench, see what you have.

[Andy Holloway]

I will tell you this. I will. I will be releasing Peyton Barber this week. I will be keeping Ronald Jones on my roster at this point in time.

[Jason Moore]

I would try and trade him if I were you.

[Andy Holloway]

Peyton Barber.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no. Payton, Barbara. No, Ronald Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

That's fine. My whole point is that I'm not going to clog two roster spots up with the decision for Tampa Bay backfield any further. Is a Gundawale Gumbo Walla in your deep league. Waiver pickups.

[Jason Moore]

No, not compared to these other guys. Like, I would rather have Justice Hill.

[Andy Holloway]

I want people to understand right now how somewhat enjoyable, mostly sad it is to. If you're watching the show on YouTube, we're in the three shot right now where we got the three cameras zoomed in on each of us. When I talk or when Mike talks, Jason, who has definitely, I've confirmed a lozenge is in his mouth. He is not speaking. He is contributing to the show on YouTube through nods and head shakes, only.

[Jason Moore]

Now it's the best he's ever sounded.

[Andy Holloway]

Honestly, in a way, you are like Hollywood Brown. Limited snaps today. Fairly effective in the work you've done. Limping off the field at the end. So he's back. He's back. And yet he's not. Are you interested? Number one pickup for you at the running back position. Mike, would you rather have, you know. Is it Chris Thompson?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would say Chris Thompson's my number one pickup.

[Andy Holloway]

And then is Carlos Hyde in that category?

[Jason Moore]

He's not in the. He's in a category if I want to pick him up. If I'm in a bit of a deeper league.

[Andy Holloway]

Adrian Peterson or Chris Thompson.

[Jason Moore]

Thompson. And it sounds kind of gross, but Raheem Mostert is one of my top running back pickups. He will play. They won't give everything to Matt Breida. They will split it about two ways.

[Andy Holloway]

The amazing thing about a guy like Raheem Mostert, this is just getting into the psyche of fantasy football players. If you play him and you get a good performance, you're happy. And like, you probably brag about starting Colonel Mustard, but if you play Raheem Mostert and he sucks for you, then you played Raheem Mostert. That's how it feels. So you get into totally get it. You know what I mean? You get into the risk reward factor. And I don't know if I have the cojones to do that.

[Jason Moore]

I totally understand, but I get what you're saying. Very small.

[Andy Holloway]

I actually think. I think Justin Jackson will be a very interesting start this week against Detroit. So. All right. Moving on to tight end Mark Andrews. He's 79% owned, but if he's not, please, please, please, please, please pick him up.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Big weeks from TJ Hawkinson, fifth most tight end routes run in week one. 37 routes run. Matthew Stafford is going to fall in love with this guy. He looked great to me. Had some kittlesque downfield plays, you know, taking the ball. I Love Hawkins. And you have to pick him up.

[Jason Moore]

Jason is writing a message and he says Hawk is his number one.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that across all positions? Jason?

[Mike Wright]

All positions.

[Andy Holloway]

So he has T.J. hawkinson is his number one. I think I get why. I'll just speak for you, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Please, please.

[Andy Holloway]

And that is because you traditionally like players with multiple periods in their name.

[Mike Wright]

100%.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I think the reason why is though the what your team gets if you're right on Hawkinson is greater than what you get if you're right on John Brown or you're right on Chris Thompson. The benefit to your team is Kittle like it's weak winning. He's nodding profusely. He agrees entirely. So let's put it this way. Darren Waller last night, the Waller is himself 7 for 70 on 8 targets. I'll say this about Darren Waller, TJ Hawkinson.

[Jason Moore]

Hawkinson does not have a cool nickname like Darren Waller, which is holding him back. I mean, maybe that's on us.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I feel like it's. Sometimes you give the nickname and then they're constrained by it. We're waiting for him to emerge into his nickname. Okay, Hawkinson versus Waller. Jason, you can weigh in with one word here. Hawkinson or Waller. Both of them less than 50% owned in a lot of leagues. Who do you prefer?

[Mike Wright]

Hawkinson is a downfield threat that is drafted to be one of the best tight ends of the last decade. That's not who Darren waller is.

[Andy Holloway]

Top 10 pick guys.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean Hawkinson, you know, I talk about the history of, you know, rookies at tight end and wide receiver. They don't usually get off to a strong start. I'm fine playing those probabilities now those probabilities are going to be right. 9 out of 10.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they'll probably come to bear. Game to game on. Hawkinson too.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, but this. But that's not to say there aren't outliers and what we saw, the utilization. I mean think about Mark Andrews, who had a great rookie tight end year last year. He's on the field 35% of the time. TJ Hawkinson already established, improved. He is their guy. Every play, every snap, every. He's being used downfield. He's got the talent. So I'm all in on Hawkins.

[Andy Holloway]

How much do you regret the fact that based on your current health you may not live to see the day that Hawkinson, you know, lives up to the potential.

[Mike Wright]

I want to live. I want to make it through the season.

[Andy Holloway]

What was that old? Is it Ripley's Believe it or not, they had the like skeleton guy at the beginning of the show. The host.

[Jason Moore]

Are you talking about Dean Cain?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Dean. Was he the skeleton Dean Cain? No. What am I talking about?

[Jason Moore]

Tales from the Crypt. You're talking about the Crypt. You confused Superman with the Crypt Keeper.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, I confused Jason with the Crypt Keeper. That was the connection. I want to be clear. Not Deon Kane.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, in the mix.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, so there's Dean Cain, there's Deon Cain, and then there's the.

[Jason Moore]

And then the Keeper. One of these things is very different.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll say this. The Crypt Keeper will not be TJ Hawkinson's nickname. Vernon Davis defied logic, jumped over six players. Are you interested in Vernon Davis at all? If this Jordan Reed, I mean Jordan Reed, projecting him to return is probably the wrong attitude to have at this point.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

As a fantasy owner at all for this offense. So is there any interest in the 2% owned Vernon Davis and you know.

[Mike Wright]

Mildly go get Darren Waller or Hawkinson. Yeah, like get pay. Pay enough to get him.

[Andy Holloway]

So let's put. Let's put the numbers out there. TJ Hawkinson is worth on a $100 fab budget is worth what to you? Is he. He's not worth a kiddo?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Well, because it's hard for me to spend a kiddle on anybody that's not a kiddo. Like. No. A Nick Chubb situation where a beast running back all of a sudden is clearly, the number one guy. I applaud your efforts.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you spend 20?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I would spend. I would. I'd be between 25, 30.

[Andy Holloway]

Would you? Jason's holding up a 30 sign. He would spend 30 fab. I would spend 15 fab on Hawkinson. That's as high as I go.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Are you Hawkinson over Waller?

[Andy Holloway]

I am not. I am Waller over Hawkinson. I would spend 16 on Darren Waller. Oh, so that's how much more. That's how much higher I am. I get it. I get why. But Jason said 20 for Darren Waller.

[Jason Moore]

Where I am on Hawkinson and Waller, Hawkinson has a higher ceiling to me.

[Andy Holloway]

He'll score more, bigger plays.

[Jason Moore]

He is going to have far more variance, I believe, moving forward. And if you want the security that like Darren Waller is going to have five receptions a week, he will also score. Look, look what happened to Jared Cook last year. That's who Darren Waller is going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why I'm more on the Waller side for sure. I want stability at that position. And as. Look, I was I think the only one even mentioning Hawkinson towards the draft season, saying he's going to be on the field 100% of the time, top 10 pick, something's going to happen. Even then, it's still your rookie season and he played a Cardinal secondary. And you don't want to distort all the results based on playing the Cardinals secondary, because I wish that all of my tight ends could do that every week.

[Jason Moore]

So with your love for Michael Gallup, are the tight ends still your top 2 ads of the week?

[Andy Holloway]

I would say for most teams, the answer is yes. If you're really hurting at wide receiver, no. And that's where the subjectivity comes with all those waiver decisions and why we're bringing these names up and you got to make that decision. But for most teams, if you're not a Travis Kelsey, Zach Ertz, George Kittle, who, by the way, two touchdowns called back would have won my matchup against Sam Elliott. But if you don't own those three guys, why not take a shot on an upside tight end? I want to bring. Before we get into quarterback streamers real quick, are you comfortable dropping blank? I'm going to give you names. Okay. Dante Pettis.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I. Yeah, for one of these waiver guys, I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you better. Marquise Goodwin.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Geronimo. Allison.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I won't drop Geronimo or Marquez.

[Mike Wright]

I won't drop Marquez. That was not the question.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, he was going to be the next name.

[Mike Wright]

Well, ask it.

[Andy Holloway]

Andy Marquez, Valdez, Cantley.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Yeah, I'll drop Allison. A zero for zero on zero targets. I understand your. Your reasoning for hanging on seeing one more week. Dante Moncrief.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Corey Davis. I'm a yes on Moncrief. Cut him. Corey Davis. You cut him?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Anthony Miller.

[Mike Wright]

I would never have had him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. Can't cut.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

You don't have Anthony Miller cut. Yeah, I like Anthony Miller, but you got to move on in week one. You got to go find somebody else. Running backs. Drake or Bellage? The Miami running backs, would you cut them both?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I wouldn't either. Darrell Henderson.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would cut him.

[Andy Holloway]

I cannot imagine you keeping him on your bench. How do you do that? Unless you. If you are the girly owner, it's fine. But let's say, Mike, you said no. You have Darrell Henderson. Malcolm Brown's on the waiver wire. What are you doing?

[Jason Moore]

Probably just staying where I was.

[Mike Wright]

What?

[Andy Holloway]

That is shocking.

[Mike Wright]

Why?

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe the most shocking thing I'VE ever heard in my entire life.

[Mike Wright]

I would not rather have Malcolm Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

One snap for Daryl Henderson.

[Jason Moore]

I just, I want to see what happens in week two.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Peyton Barber.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you can cut him.

[Andy Holloway]

Damien Harris.

[Jason Moore]

You can cut him.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

And then the goose that is Kyle Rudolph.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I will cut him.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Full stream ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. It's, it's a hard business picking quarterback streamers heading into week two because a lot of you drafted quarterbacks that you probably play in week two. And then again, there are some of you with Jameis Winston, jettisoning him into outer space. Some of you, I think will be in leagues where my streamer of the week will hit the waiver wire tomorrow, and that is Big Ben. Big Ben will be dropped by a lot of teams tomorrow. They will be pivoting to some of the flashier options on your waiver wire. I wanted to look this up first of all. I mean, he's got a good matchup, but Big Ben at home against Seattle, I like it. Last year I wanted to look and see the consistency charts that we provide. You know, the Join the foot supporters and that are part of the ultimate draft kit. He finished outside the top 12 only five times last year. In the weeks following those finishes here were where he went. These are his bounce back games. He finished the week number 1, 5, 5, 10 and 4. So coming home, a Seahawks secondary that took a beating from John Ross and Andy Dalton, which is honestly, no secondary has been able to claim that in the history of the game. I think it's a bounce back game for Big Ben in week two and I would be more confident for the Juju. Connor Moncrief, Washington, big play opportunities. Even Vance McDonald should be better for them in week two.

[Jason Moore]

I'll jump in here. It's Josh Allen for me. He gets to take on the New York Giants who were just absolutely torched by Dak Prescott. Josh Allen is not the quarterback at least throwing the ball that Dak Prescott is. But Allen, you, you watched it unfold on Sunday. The guy played very up and down, played very poorly for most of the game, had multiple turnovers. Still doesn't matter because he runs so much. He, he scores rushing touchdowns and then he showed that he can connect with guys like John Brown when he needs to. So I think Josh Allen is.

[Andy Holloway]

Can I ask you an early start? Sick question, Mike. Sure. Asking for a friend.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Of course.

[Andy Holloway]

Josh Allen. Who's your, you know, Stream of the week, 32% owned. I like it. Versus Kyler Murray against Baltimore.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Allen okay. Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. All right, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

So the name I want to throw out there first, because I refuse to believe the nonsensical ownership percentages out there is Dak Prescott. He is a must pick up, must start going forward, and he's available in every single league that I personally play in. But let's.

[Andy Holloway]

Can I ask you a dat question?

[Mike Wright]

By all means.

[Andy Holloway]

Because I think this is what a lot of people are going to face. They see Dax, big numbers, he's sitting out on the waiver wire in one of our leagues. Do you drop Baker Mayfield for Dak Prescott?

[Mike Wright]

Ooh, I would be willing to do that. I think that I'm fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you willing to pivot that quick?

[Jason Moore]

That's. That's intense.

[Andy Holloway]

Because that. Because otherwise you're on a situation where you're going to have to roster two or three quarterbacks, right. If you don't. A lot of the times, if you don't drop the big name, you are going to have to roster multiple.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but I mean, we went through the. Would you drop Dante Pettis? Geronimo Allison, Dante Moncrief? There's. I feel like there's enough players to drop where you can hold two quarterbacks right now. So I don't think you have to drop Baker.

[Andy Holloway]

But what if you had like, Kyler and Lamar Jackson? Would you drop Kyler Murray for Dak Prescott?

[Mike Wright]

I would drop.

[Jason Moore]

I would.

[Andy Holloway]

I probably wouldn't do that. That's where this is the pickle I'm in with Dak Prescott.

[Jason Moore]

Man, I think I would rather have Dak.

[Mike Wright]

I want whoever's the better play this week because they're all good options for the season as Dak. But let's say Dak is not available in most leagues. Fine. I think that a good option is Derek Carr.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Who actually looked great. We just brought up the Secret Garden first game ever comes out and looks great against Kansas City. Secondary. Because of Kansas City's offense, there's going to be a lot of throwing needed from Derek Carr.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's great.

[Mike Wright]

I think Derek Carr is going to be just fine against Kansas City.

[Andy Holloway]

The amazing thing is the two players that had the most insane stat lines from a completion percentage perspective was Gardner Minshew and Derek Carr last night. And now Carr is going to the same secondary. So I like the Kansas City pickup. We have defensive streamers for you.

[Mike Wright]

Defense versus offense presented by Head and Shoulders and Walmart.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We finally get to do it. The quarterback streaming, the defensive streaming, two of the very volatile pivot Positions for a lot of teams, positions that you didn't spend high draft capital on. This is where the nimble owner has like a mast, a bounty of running backs and wide receivers, but then has to make the right decisions at quarterback and defense. So what is your favorite defensive special team streamer for week number two?

[Jason Moore]

Jason's.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

You like Carolina against Tampa on Thursday night?

[Mike Wright]

I will hop in here then. Yeah, Carolina is. They've got a great defensive line.

[Jason Moore]

They're good. They were playing the Rams week one, though, so no one wanted to play the Panthers, which justifiably. So I would not want to play my defense against the Rams either.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. But now you get famous. Jameis Winston coming in, who loves one thing more than anything else, throwing the ball to the other team. So you want to talk offense versus defense. Jameis is going to give points to Carolina. This is Carolina's home opener. I am all about. I'm all about Carolina this week.

[Andy Holloway]

There was part of me. I don't know why. Maybe it's just the contrarian nature of being on the show with you, Jason. There was part of me that wanted to, like, tell you that I think Tampa is going to have a much better week, too. And then like, I remember Jameis Winston.

[Mike Wright]

The thing is, is that that's not mutually exclusive.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Because he could give up points and score points and it's good for your.

[Mike Wright]

Defense because sacks and turnovers are what score points for defenses. You're going to sack Jameis, you're going to get interceptions from Jameis. So, yeah, I mean, even if those are his two power ups, that's his best trait.

[Andy Holloway]

Also, you flip the card over, there's two power ups.

[Mike Wright]

Also, this is not their home opener. Right. The Rams were in Carolina.

[Andy Holloway]

That is correct.

[Mike Wright]

Self correction.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I'm going to go with the Titans defense. I was so impressed with it. I really believed in it heading into the season. What they did on that, on that defensive line, which, look, they're only 8% owned and they face the Indianapolis Colts this week. They 100% owned the Browns this past week.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And I loved everything I saw. I think you've got turnover opportunities. You still have Jacoby Brissette, you know, figuring things out. And Brissette didn't throw for a lot of yardage in that game. That comeback against the Chargers, there wasn't a lot of yardage there. So I don't think you have a lot of risk of Jacoby Brissett, but you got upside with the Titans repeating what they're doing and they're at home. So I like the Titans a lot.

[Jason Moore]

And I like, I like both of those more than the one I'm going to throw out and they're also far more available in leagues. However, Buffalo, the Bills, they are a great defense and they will be taking on much like Josh Allen, who is their quarterback. They will be playing Eli Manning and the New York Giants. I am willing to play almost any defense against the Giants regardless of Saquon Barkley and his hundred plus yards from scrimmage because Eli's going to get, he's going to get hit and he will have, he will be able to turn the ball over as well. And on top of that, like I already said though, Buffalo is a great defense. So that's both things are matching up here for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't, I don't mind that at all. Head and shoulders offense for your hair. Defense for a flake free scalp. Check it [e-mail] or at your local Walmart. That was our defense versus offense defensive streamers segment. As we close out today's show, I want to thank Pristine Auction, our studio sponsor. I see Brooks put in here yesterday. Brooks browses like whatever like was sold yesterday at Pristine Auction. Cortland Sutton signed football $47.91. I just had somebody tweet me a picture of about 600 mini helmets on their wall that they bought through Pristine Auction. All autographed, all authentic sports memorabilia. Pristineauction.com use the registration code baller. So, Jason, I hope that you continue this recovery that you're on. I hate to break it to you, you're not there yet.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. I'm gonna go to my coffin.

[Andy Holloway]

But I appreciate the effort today.

[Jason Moore]

But also, fellas, the multiverse is overflowing with ultrasonic energy. The goal of biofeedback is to plant the seeds of interconnectedness rather than material.

[Andy Holloway]

Was that the Lizard King? Yeah. It's so, so insightful, Mike. Thank you. What, do we close the show?

[Jason Moore]

Crush the waivers? We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

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