Week 3 Buy or Sell + Trending or Ending, Beard vs Mustache - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/23

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Week 3 Buy or Sell + Trending or Ending, Beard vs Mustache - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/23
Release Date: September 23, 2020

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I. Week 3 Buy or Sell

The hosts delved into strategic decisions for the third week of the NFL season, analyzing various players' performances and discussing whether to buy or sell them in fantasy leagues.

• James Conner vs. Benny Snell

  • Andy Holloway emphasized buying James Conner:

    "I am definitely going to buy because I had James Conner in as my start of the week... I do expect that he'll come in and be the primary ball carrier week one." [08:59]

  • Jason Moore shared insights on Benny Snell, citing recent updates:

    "We have an upside down situation." [10:14]

  • Mike Wright opted to sell Benny Snell, questioning his top 15 status:

    "Top 15 is too high for me. I think he is in that 15 to 20 range." [10:33]

• Aaron Jones vs. Alvin Kamara vs. Ezekiel Elliott

  • Mike Wright highlighted the dilemma between Aaron Jones and Alvin Kamara:

    "I would go Alvin Kamara. I would go for the ceiling." [02:55]

  • Andy Holloway weighed in on Jones' consistency:

    "He had these monster weeks, but then he also, you know, really let you down. He wasn't consistent." [06:16]

• Mark Ingram and Keenan Allen

  • Discussions revolved around selling Mark Ingram, who later outperformed expectations:

    "We all sold Mark Ingram, but he finished at RB19." [08:22]

II. Trending or Ending

The hosts evaluated whether certain players were on an upward trajectory (Trending) or if their performances were declining (Ending).

• Ty Hilton

  • Mike Wright and Jason Moore both concluded that Ty Hilton's performance was Ending after disappointing first two weeks:

    Mike: "This is an ending situation." [22:00]
    Jason: "I'm going to say ending." [21:43]

• Stefon Diggs and Josh Allen

  • Andy Holloway and Mike Wright discussed Stefon Diggs' trending performance alongside Josh Allen's breakout:

    Andy: "I think he dominates the rest of the season." [27:40]
    Mike: "I think he has a legitimate touchdown threat." [26:01]

• Cooper Kupp

  • Jason Moore raised concerns about Cooper Kupp's declining touchdown opportunities:

    "I would say ending." [31:01]

• Calvin Ridley vs. Michael Thomas

  • A heated debate ensued over whether Calvin Ridley would maintain top-five status or fade compared to Michael Thomas:

    Jason: "Calvin Ridley is what you want Julio Jones to be." [34:12]
    Mike: "I would take Michael Thomas rest of season over Calvin Ridley." [37:07]

• D.J. Chark

  • Jason Moore deemed D.J. Chark as Ending due to insufficient targets despite his talent:

    "I'm going to say ending." [49:54]

III. News and Notes

Updates on player transactions, injuries, and team news that could impact fantasy decisions.

• Devonta Freeman Signing

  • Mike Wright expressed skepticism about Devonta Freeman's one-year contract with the Giants:

    "I thought this deal would be four or five million dollars more guaranteed." [12:50]

• Injuries

  • Christian McCaffrey placed on short-term IR:

    Mike: "Christian McCaffrey has been put on short term IR. He is out at least the next three weeks." [40:10]

  • Julio Jones' Hamstring Injury raised concerns about his future performance:

    "It's more than a Decepticon situation." [16:18]

• Team Dynamics

  • Discussion on the Giants' running back depth with Dion Lewis and Wayne Gallman:

    Andy: "I do not believe he plays this week. I think they're going to give him this week off." [14:23]

IV. Thursday Night Preview: Beard vs Mustache

A light-hearted segment previewing the upcoming Thursday Night Football game between the Dolphins and Jaguars, featuring a playful rivalry between quarterbacks Ryan Fitzpatrick (Mustache) and Gardner Minshew (Beard).

• Fitzpatrick vs. Minshew
  • Mike Wright shared a humorous exchange about facial hair dominance:

    "Fitzpatrick said, guys that grow mustaches have patchy sides. Minshew gave him the side eye." [44:30]

  • Play Predictions:
    • Andy Holloway expressed confidence in Minshew:

      "I think these two quarterbacks will get it done and they're going to start just going back and forth by the end of the game scoring." [52:27]

    • Jason Moore favored Ryan Fitzpatrick for the week's matchup:

      "Ryan Fitzpatrick is my start of the week at the quarterback position." [52:46]

V. Additional Insights and Strategy

• Waiver Wire Strategies

  • Mike Wright and Jason Moore discussed the importance of strategic bidding on waiver claims, especially in dynamic situations with player injuries:

    Mike: "How much fab do I spend? And the number is contextual." [42:30]

• Dynasty League Moves

  • Mike Wright recounted his attempt to acquire Drew Sample and the dynamics of dynasty league strategy:

    "I just wanted some depth." [52:56]

• Flex Position Tips

  • Advice on managing flex positions during high-stakes games like Thursday Night Football:

    "Take your Thursday night players out of the flex position. Put them in your main running back or wide receiver spot so you have flexibility later." [54:30]

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Conclusion

In this episode, the Fantasy Footballers provided comprehensive advice on player acquisitions and drops for Week 3, evaluated trending and declining player performances, shared critical news updates affecting fantasy lineups, and offered a fun preview of the Thursday Night Football matchup. Notable insights included the strategic decisions surrounding James Conner, Alvin Kamara, and the debated statuses of Calvin Ridley versus Michael Thomas. The hosts also emphasized the importance of staying informed on injuries and team dynamics to optimize fantasy performance.

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

This is Jerick McKinnon, running back San.

[Mike Wright]

Francisco 49ers and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers podcast.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome in Wednesday, September 23rd.

[Jason Moore]

You know it's going to be a great day when you can finally bust out a Jerick McKinnon player intro for the fantasy footballers that.

[Mike Wright]

When, when did they get to be 4 years old? It feels like it. I mean it must have been after.

[Andy Holloway]

He signed with the first year he signed with them. Got to interview him in person. That was a fun one. He was on the path to being a my guy which is why I did the interview. And then that path was taken away due to injury and he's back, baby.

[Mike Wright]

That's right. That interview is somewhere, isn't it?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Somewhere.

[Mike Wright]

When he said your boy strong.

[Jason Moore]

It's on the Internet somewhere. Who knows.

[Mike Wright]

Welcome into the show. Heading into week three, got a great quick question. Some buy sell some news, some trending or ending a Thursday night preview. This is too much, Brooks. It's just too much.

[Andy Holloway]

No way.

[Mike Wright]

We have to cut something. No. Okay, I guess we'll do it all.

[Jason Moore]

Those are strong orders from the judge.

[Mike Wright]

From the judge @The FFballers on Twitter. Quick question of the day actually came in from my 9 year old son who has turned it up a notch when it comes to his fantasy acumen. He in year number two, he was, I was walking through the house and he said hey dad, hey dad, if you had all the information from week one and week two before the draft, who's the number one pick in the draft? And I had to think about it a little bit.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like it's pretty easy. But it's a two to me. It's.

[Jason Moore]

I know who mine.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a two horse race.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And I can't imagine picking someone other than one of these two players. So I don't know if it differs from you. Mike, you know who yours is. So Andy, we'll, we'll kick the question right back to you since we know ours. Who's your number one pick?

[Mike Wright]

Well, his answer the nine year olds was Aaron Jones after because he's in it makes sense.

[Jason Moore]

Makes sense.

[Mike Wright]

He's in for I think Alvin Camara. And this is with the information of Barkley's gone and McCaffrey's hurt for the next six weeks and you know. Yeah, I guess the answer could be Zeke based on him being healthy and other two being out of the way.

[Andy Holloway]

But those are the two for me, it has to be between Zeke and Alvin Camara. As much as Christian McCaffrey is great and would still be a first rounder, you're missing. You know, if you were to draft from this point on, I would not take him over Zeke, who's been awesome.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But he doesn't really give you those super ceiling games. And Camaro, who's just been truly super Cameron to start the season. And I think I would go Alvin Camara. I would go for the ceiling. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Well, first off, I mean, this is some unbelievable nepotism that has creeped into our show, allowing your.

[Mike Wright]

My son, your son to steal our.

[Jason Moore]

Quick question of the day.

[Mike Wright]

I thought it was so good. I was like, man, that's a tough question.

[Jason Moore]

This is what we do at this point. You're two weeks in, you go, what happened? I mean, it's easily Alvin Camara because as soon as Michael Thomas went down, who's the biggest benefactor you could play the game of which receivers are going to be right now it looks like Trey Quan Smith, but we all knew it's Alvin Camara is the. Is the answer. He's going to get checked down to far more frequently because he's going to take most of those Michael Thomas targets. Throw in the fact that the first and second players off the board in drafts a month ago are now missing time. It easily becomes Alvin Camara.

[Andy Holloway]

To me, I would add in a dash of how Latavius Murray looks a little sprinkle, which is bad. Really? Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't think he looked bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he looks to me like he is definitely a step slow.

[Mike Wright]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

That's just my eyeballs. Maybe it's because it's the one, two punch and you're comparing him to Kamara where it's, it's not just like Camaro looks general, Spry. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Healthy.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not just in general. You watch him and you say, this guy's washed. It's just every time they give the ball to him, you go, oh, Camaro would have now gotten five more yards.

[Mike Wright]

We were a bit concerned about the regression touchdown regression for Aaron Jones coming into the season. We were not putting him in that upper echelon. He sits as the number one fantasy running back through two weeks. Which begs the question, are we disrespecting him again here? Not even considering him in this question?

[Jason Moore]

I, I don't believe so. Because of the, the way that the points came. That is, that is not a sustainable model for fantasy football.

[Mike Wright]

Last year you're saying no.

[Jason Moore]

Last week you know, the way where he went off of on the snaps that he got on the opportunities that he received, he. He may have been disrespected in the draft process of when, you know, we got to the point of is Aaron Jones really?

[Mike Wright]

I feel like that's exactly what we said during the draft process. And then you said it through two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

You want to double down on it, then that's. That's fine. But that's not the way I play the game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, I would not draft Aaron Jones even third. He's been phenomenal. He is the guy. I don't think the touchdown regression, you know, that we were championing is all that scary right now. Obviously, you're feeling good about Aaron Jones a couple weeks in. I've got some shares of Aaron Jones, but if you look at what he did last year, it's very similar. Right. He had these monster weeks, but then he also, you know, really let you down. He wasn't consistent. And I think.

[Mike Wright]

How many weeks in a row do you need to believe?

[Andy Holloway]

I think if.

[Mike Wright]

Because we're two in.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's one. It's a matter of schedule as well.

[Jason Moore]

Saints, Falcons, Tampa.

[Andy Holloway]

So here you go. If he does it against the Saints, that's a good run. D v 3 for 3. Then I would absolutely buy in because he's talented. He's great. I just question if the packers offense is truly as great as we've seen or if it's, you know, they've had a little bit easier matchups to start the season. Remember last year he had nine games where he was not an RB1, more than half of his games.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I remember. He's just had an impressive start and he's. He doesn't get the credit he deserves as being one of the top five in pass catching. He is a dynamic wide receiver on the outside. The routes that Rogers throws to Aaron Jones are not the same type of routes that other receivers get. He is downfield. He is 50, 50 balling right DBs or I guess, linebackers.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he's better than Camaro, but that's the computer. Like, as a player, if you were to put Aaron Jones on the New Orleans Saints. I trust the Saints offense and Sean Payton and Drew Brees a little bit more. As a player, he's fantastic. I just don't know if I could trust the packers offense.

[Jason Moore]

He had 26 opportunities and he played on 48% of the offensive snaps. Like, that's a. That's a number that's not going to happen.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so you, you would go Alvin Camara. Jason, you go Zeke.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I would go Alvin Camara. It was between those two, but I would go Camara.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, let's do some buy. Sell.

[Andy Holloway]

Buy or sell? Presented by Pristine Auction.

[Mike Wright]

All right. I saw a little glimmer in Jason's eye and that was the glimmer of perfection. Last week in Buy Sell, he actually went three for three. It was a close one. We all sold Naim Hines with 13 fantasy points. We all sold Keenan.

[Jason Moore]

We should have sold one. One fantasy point.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we sold Keenan Allen as a top 20 wide receiver. He ended up close, but he was the wide receiver 23. And we all did that together. And then Mark Ingram, Mike and I sold him as a top 20 running back. Jason bought it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, and he finished it.

[Mike Wright]

He finished at RB19.

[Jason Moore]

Snuck it in there with a well done with a 30 yard touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

But fourth and one, Jason said he was going to get in the end zone. That was the reason he took it. All right, buy yourself for week three. James Connor is a top 15 running back against Houston.

[Andy Holloway]

Buy. I am definitely going to buy because I had James Conner in as my start of the week for I'm guessing one and a half seconds. I had him in the dock and I was like, I'm not. I am not going to do this. I'm not going to put my start of the week on James Conner's health. But if I've got to buy or sell, here's where I can take him. I think he's healthy. He's clearly the guy. Benny Snell fumbled the ball and was. Was done.

[Jason Moore]

We have an update from the Fantasy Footballers inside source, which we are basing all of our acumen and projections upon the sleeper bowl, the celebrity league. We are in with juju. Juju Smith Schuster this morning dropped Benny Snell. He's out. So I'm out on Benny Snell.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. You guys are. You guys are misinterpreting that data.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, are we? Yes, Please, please enlighten us because I.

[Mike Wright]

Believe juju signed Benny SN and we viewed that as a sign that was good for Benny Snell.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

What was the result of that intelligence?

[Jason Moore]

Negative fantasy points.

[Mike Wright]

Negative fantasy points. Therefore, ipso facto, him dropping Benny Snell. Benny Snell is about to blow it up.

[Jason Moore]

We got an upside down situation.

[Mike Wright]

We got an upside down situation.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

You want to know what this this tells me? All jokes aside, is that, you know, I don't think juju picked him up. He thought he would be A possible good pickup and he's in there. Like I think we know a lot and they don't know as much as we don't know sometimes.

[Mike Wright]

I am going to sell. Top 15 is too high for me. I think he is in that 15 to 20 range. He'll put up the Ingram like stat line, but I think that'll be outside the top 15. So I will sell it. Mike.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to buy.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. David Johnson, same game. 10 fantasy points at Pittsburgh. That is not a difficult line to hit. He can do it in the passing game. I'm going to buy it.

[Andy Holloway]

I will sell this line. I think that it will be more difficult in the matchup. I mean, Pittsburgh right now. Saquon did not hit it in week one.

[Mike Wright]

9.6.

[Andy Holloway]

He was under and Melvin Gordon did. He had 15.4 points but it took a really perfect receiving touchdown. I'm just going to guess it doesn't go Houston's way this game.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to sell.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. I've got a chance to really.

[Jason Moore]

You do?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You can pick up some points here. Adam Thielen is a top 10 wide receiver against Tennessee. Through two weeks he is the wide receiver 10. I'm going to sell it and I will buy.

[Andy Holloway]

Looks like we are going to be oppositesies here.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my.

[Andy Holloway]

I think in general most weeks Adam Thielen is going to be a top 10 wide receiver. So the Tennessee defense is good, not great. They don't scare me.

[Mike Wright]

You know, it scares me. Is the Minnesota Vikings offense. And that is exactly why I'm selling.

[Jason Moore]

The Minnesota football team is terrifying.

[Mike Wright]

Did they lose their handle?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they got written.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just. I'm saying I'm encapsulating all of them. There is not a good situation going on.

[Andy Holloway]

They want to preserve the Vikings brand. So this year.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

They're going. The Minnesota football team.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

Top top 10.

[Mike Wright]

You got to. This just in breaking news. The Minnesota has dropped the front part of the name. They are just football teams. They would not like to be associated.

[Jason Moore]

They're now just going by dudes.

[Andy Holloway]

I really do wish this was top 12. Top 10 is.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm selling. That's. That's sketchy.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I don't like my buy. I'll stick to it. But.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league.

[Mike Wright]

All right. The New York football team, the giants, they signed Devonte Freeman to a one year contract worth up to $3 million. So though this is the word out from Devonta Freeman's agent, he passed up more money elsewhere because he did work out with the Eagles for the opportunity in front of him in New York. Now I thought he'd get more money than this. So this actually throws a little bit of shade on my view that Freeman will walk in the door and take all the work from day one. I thought this deal would be four or five million dollars more guaranteed. He will practice with the team. He passed the COVID test and he is going to practice and potentially play this week. But you're going to have Dion Lewis involved. You're going to have potentially Wayne Gallman involved. He is a hold on my bench right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, if you have the opportunity to hold, wait and see. I think that's the preference. A lot of people that are picking up Devonta Freeman lost the running back or two and need to start him. I do expect that he'll come in and be the primary ball carrier week one. You know, if I had to say which one of these running backs from the Giants has the most fantasy points this week, I think we would all put it on Freeman. We would not. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

I would not. I'd put it on Dion Lewis in week one.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's probably irrelevant. Whoever it is is someone I don't really want in my lineup. I agree with that and I agree that I thought he was going to get 5 million. So up to 3 million was. This is not a situation where they're saying save us. We're putting our hopes in you. Here's all the money.

[Jason Moore]

What's funny to me, you know, just trying to. Looking back at the history of what has happened with Freeman over the course of this off season, we was. He was reportedly offered like what, four from Seattle.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Jason Moore]

You think somebody has some rock grats that he did not take that on a good team and now. Yeah, I get it. For Freeman, you believe this is your best opportunity for touches. This is not your best opportunity to impress another NFL team that you have a job next year.

[Mike Wright]

See, I think it is. I think that's why he's doing it. I think he wants this job because that's why he's.

[Jason Moore]

I believe that's why he's doing it.

[Mike Wright]

I see what you mean. You just mean the team.

[Jason Moore]

What I'm saying. I watched Saquon Barkley right. In week one.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Have absolutely zero chance. It was like they were a JV team playing an NFL team.

[Andy Holloway]

There was nothing he could do.

[Jason Moore]

And if. If the receiving work doesn't go to Freeman, it goes to Dion Lewis. Good luck, Freeman.

[Mike Wright]

I see what you're saying.

[Jason Moore]

Best of luck, man.

[Mike Wright]

Better 10 carries behind a good offensive line than 20 against the behind a bad one.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

Sterling shepherd on IR turf toe.

[Andy Holloway]

That stinks.

[Mike Wright]

I think Evan Ingram will have a pretty good shot here. They're not going to be able to run like they expected to. They certainly going to be down in a lot of games. Ingram, Slayton, Golden Tate. Golden Tate. A little sneaky snark.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we're getting to the part of the schedule where it opens up for the Giants and Daniel Jones. We knew that the beginning was going.

[Andy Holloway]

To be rough soon, but not yet. Yes. 49ers.

[Jason Moore]

Although the 49ers are pretty banged up.

[Andy Holloway]

Their defense is rough right now.

[Mike Wright]

Devonte Adams is considered uncertain for week three against the Saints.

[Andy Holloway]

What is this?

[Jason Moore]

Why? What's this verbiage?

[Mike Wright]

It's a new injury designation uncertain.

[Andy Holloway]

I think this is just them saying we don't want. We want to utilize the fact that he had a hamstring issue to say. Maybe you should plan for without him.

[Mike Wright]

If you're the devonte Adams manager, you need to pick up mbs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And hold him as the last minute pivot because it's a Sunday night football game.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. I agree.

[Mike Wright]

Dirk Cutter says he believes there's more to the Julio Jones hamstring injury than he let on.

[Jason Moore]

It's like a Transformer, more than meets the eye.

[Mike Wright]

It's only. It's just more of a Decepticon situation. What do you think here? Russell Gage, Hayden Hearst, the beneficiaries of Julio has to sit.

[Andy Holloway]

Russell Gage I would say would be the number one beneficiary. Obviously Ridley's been awesome and. But yeah, I think it would help. Obviously everyone else. Julio commands a lot of targets that would go to other players.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Deontay Johnson, lingering toe injury.

[Jason Moore]

He's fine.

[Mike Wright]

All right. A.J. brown, non committal for week three. If he's in there, are you playing him because of this?

[Andy Holloway]

If he's in situation so good. I think if he's in, he plays. I have A.J. brown in our league of record team. I've been following this news closely listening to the wide receiver coach. I do not believe he plays this week. I think they're going to give him this week off. They're only playing a football team and have him heal up for the long stretch of the season.

[Mike Wright]

Your matchup with the football team is when you have a chance to rest. Justin Herbert, likely to start week three, could be Tyrod. I've seen Tyrod projected by the majority of platforms right now, but.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, we'll see.

[Mike Wright]

Does it change depending on who's starting? Does it change whether you start Henry or Allen or Mike Williams?

[Andy Holloway]

It changes the order of which players I prefer. I would put Keenan Allen ahead if Justin Herbert is there. I would bump up Austin Eckler if Justin Herbert is the quarterback. But I don't. I don't think it actually changes whether I would start a player or not.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not like Mike Williams. It doesn't change if you'd be willing to flex him or not. If it's Tyrod.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I guess I don't want to.

[Jason Moore]

One game sample with.

[Andy Holloway]

With Herbert.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

No way.

[Mike Wright]

Chargers team doctor accidentally punctured his lung before kickoff.

[Jason Moore]

Holy crap.

[Mike Wright]

While trying to administer a painkilling injection.

[Jason Moore]

Bro. What? That's not okay.

[Mike Wright]

Well, certainly not Mike.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just saying, like, I don't think.

[Andy Holloway]

He did it on purpose.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I get that.

[Mike Wright]

Nor will he have the opportunity to do it again.

[Jason Moore]

The repercussions for this are massive. If that is.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, you got to feel terrible for Tyrod Taylor. Yes, dad, we thought this. I mean, to be honest, the first impression. Tyrod's been through this before. Every. Every single person thought, oh, wink, wink, injury.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

They're moving on to the rookie and this was it. And Tyrod had his lung puncture.

[Andy Holloway]

My. My first thought was, I'll bet Herbert took first team reps this week. And they knew all along. They didn't want to say who their starting quarterback was. And then. No. This is just a terrible real life situation.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Wow. Hope you feel better, Tyrod. Yeah, Very soon. All right, let's. I thought it'd be nice to do some trending or ending today. We've got two weeks of the NFL season. That's enough to draw all conclusions, right?

[Jason Moore]

Of course.

[Mike Wright]

Let's do it.

[Andy Holloway]

Trending or ending.

[Mike Wright]

All right, so we're going to walk through some good and some bad in terms of trending or ending. You guys make your predictions. Let's start with Ty Hilton. Through two weeks, the Ty Hilton plus Philip Rivers, it's not been good.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

He was the wide receiver 50 in week one. He was the wide receiver 93 in week two. He dropped a 50 yard touchdown pass that we all watched right before the show today.

[Jason Moore]

It's more like a Motel 6 experience than a Hilton.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, am I right? Yep. Nope, you're right.

[Jason Moore]

Look, you got to bust out the hotel jokes.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Whenever you got a chance.

[Mike Wright]

You don't get a lot of them, but that was a good one. All right, Week three, Week four, New York, Chicago. Timing seems a little off. Rivers threw an interception his way. He dropped a touchdown. I saw another drop. You know, watching every one of his plays this year, I think it's an ending situation. That's how I'm going to weigh in. And not. That is not the same as saying Ty Hilton is going to be a top 12 wide receiver. I don't believe he will be just with the what Philip Rivers is now. But I think Hilton is better than these numbers. The opportunities were there. If he catches that touchdown pass, everything changes. It's a 50 yard touchdown pass. All of a sudden he's a top 24 wide receiver. So I'll go with ending.

[Jason Moore]

I'm also going to take the ending. The.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow.

[Jason Moore]

We're only two weeks in, so the data is very limited. And with the Colts, you basically have to throw out week two against the Vikings. What happened? You saw only five targets for Ty Hilton and he was in on 58% of snaps. The. This game was over before it really started. And I'm looking more to Week 1, they played Jacksonville. He had the nine targets, was in on 90% of the snaps, didn't get the output that you were hoping for. But this is, if I have to call for one, I'm going to say ending. And I think that Ty Hilton will bounce back and still be a very, like a very solid top top 24.

[Mike Wright]

Would you go, go try to acquire him?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I would try and trade for him.

[Andy Holloway]

I do think he's a good buy low candidate. I see him as my preseason ranking was which was low for Ty Hilton. For oh, he's been this top 15 wide receiver. I had him in the lower 20s. I think he was a back end wide receiver 2 or a high end wide receiver 3. I still believe that's what he is. Not an elite player, but not what we've seen these first two weeks. He will be much better than that over the course of the season. And yeah, I mean right now Ty Hilton managers have to be looking to offer. They're going through waivers going, oh man, do I, do I drop him? If they didn't watch the game, if they didn't see the 50 yard touchdown that was dropped right in his lap and whoops. So yeah, I would acquire him and I think he'll be better. So I unanimously agree. This one is going to end. He will not be as bad as he's been.

[Mike Wright]

I had Will Fuller and Ty Hilton as my starters in our dynasty league and that was a suboptimal situation.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike and I this last week had in two different leagues, the stellar combo of Julio Jones and Devonte Adams.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, it was the trilogy because Alan Robinson was also in there.

[Mike Wright]

Oh my. Let me ask you this before we move on to another player here in trending or ending, would you rather have AJ Green or Ty Hilton rest of season?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a fantastic question. I would take the chance on. I take the chance on that AJ Green volume. It's been absolutely outrageous. They just haven't connected.

[Mike Wright]

And you know, Jason, that A.J. green is number one in the NFL and air yards through two weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I believe it, but the air yards are extra. Like when you go and you look at his air yards, he gets like 5 extra air yards because he overthrows. Yes. I'm still going to take the better course. So I'll take A.J. green.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, A.J. green is my answer.

[Andy Holloway]

Any chance to take a shot at P. River? I'll do it.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, you will. And he kind of deserves it right now. So let's go to another player here, Josh Allen.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, The Stallion.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. He has been the quarterback three both weeks. Both weeks he's been the quarterback three. Now it's, it's the jets and Miami. A very nice start to the year. This is why Josh Allen was on the short list for all of our fantasy drafts. Because we knew you want to get off to a hot start. We didn't know it'd be this hot.

[Jason Moore]

But when you didn't know it would be 300 passing yards, 400 passing yards, that's not what you were drafting.

[Mike Wright]

Well, I knew, Mike. I am.

[Jason Moore]

Well, if you knew it was going to jump up to that level, I.

[Mike Wright]

Should have told somebody.

[Jason Moore]

You should have shared that information.

[Mike Wright]

No, I didn't know he was going to do what he's done. But Stefan Diggs that. If you're looking at trending or endings. Stefan Diggs is one of the reasons why you could buy into trending because you have a. It's more than an anomaly, right. He's had big games before. Although last year he really struggled to give you the big time weeks. Two years ago as a rookie, the big weeks came because of the rushing yardage. Last year he was a much more solid quarterback, but not premier type of fantasy finishes. This year he's. You start the year with two weak winning type of performances and you have the foundational piece of Stefan Diggs trending or ending as. What does this mean a top three quarterback rest of season? That's a tough ask for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Top five.

[Mike Wright]

Top five. I think. I think I would go with trending. I think top five is very reasonable. He has a rushing baseline he has yet to get, you know, those rushing touchdowns. I think he has one in two games. He's got one, so. But he's no Cam Newton with four so far or whatever it is.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to go training as top five.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't see how. I mean I could be fooled here, but I couldn't see any way to say ending because he has the tool, sets the weapons the team is wanting and giving him the opportunity. If crap hits the fan, then he runs the ball, which is even better for fantasy. I think he dominates the rest of the season.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I believe looking back to. I was not on, not in on Diggs thought he Diggs overperformed last year as like the best deep ball wide receiver. But looking back, I think I underestimated the mobility of Josh Allen. Combining that into the deep threat of Stefan Diggs where Kirk Cousins, if a play blows up because his offensive line can't handle the. Can't handle the blocking. Josh Allen's can scramble out of some stuff and then find Stefan Diggs deep.

[Mike Wright]

I will say this, the schedule gets really difficult for Josh Allen at the end of the year. Let me read you weeks 13 through 16 at San Francisco, home against Pittsburgh, at Denver, at New England to end the year.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you're going to. You know I wouldn't worry about it right now but. No but yeah, that sounds unfortunate.

[Andy Holloway]

And by the time we get there he could be dominating so much that you're just going to play him through this which we'll find out if that's a mistake or not.

[Jason Moore]

Doubt. Because to the opposite to try and balance the Josh Allen love fest that's happening here. Last year when he was expected, you're like oh, Josh Allen's going to have a monster fantasy game. He would. And then when you saw him up against a tougher defense, you go I don't know if I want to play Josh Allen. You would get that like number 10 on the week output that not this huge ceiling that we're sealing. Ceiling.

[Mike Wright]

Hooked on the ceiling.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Cooper cup trending or ending. He's been outside the top 24 for two consecutive weeks. It's concerning. He is the wide receiver 42 through two weeks started as week one. He was the wide receiver 60 last week he had 10 and a half fantasy points but that put him at 335 for 8. I mean he has not gotten into the end zone.

[Jason Moore]

He had 100 total yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he did. Which kind of shocks me that that equated to wide receiver 33. Last week I was a bit surprised having seeing this but 86% of snaps he played 85% of snaps. So he's been on the field has Buffalo, the Giants, Washington. I'd like to hear your guys thoughts.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I want to. I want to hear Mike's thoughts first because I know that there was so much talk on this show leading up to the season about the last five games of the Los Angeles Rams. The way that they were using Tyler Higby, the way that they were using Cooper cup less. And Mike, you were on board of pro Higby worried about Cooper Cup. So far two weeks in your stance is looking strong. But do you still buy into that from what you've seen on the field?

[Jason Moore]

I will say that I believe that. I would say ending because I believe that Cooper cup is better than this. The problem that where when I was going through the process of projecting Cooper cup was he has a legitimate touchdown not threat is the wrong Word competition like before when you got in the red zone, it was Cooper cup. You just, that's that this is what's happening. The defense knows this is what's happening and no one can stop it. Cooper cup is just a touchdown monster. But now there is, there is Higbeast who is there as well that can scoop up the touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Like Higby or all three of them. Like a selfish jerk.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly. But Higby wasn't. His volume wasn't insane last week. I think he had five or six.

[Mike Wright]

He didn't have much yardage, did he?

[Jason Moore]

No, but he pulled in the touchdown. So that is the difference is that the touchdown can go somewhere else now. So that is, you have to build that into the variance of Cooper Cup 5 for 81. That's, that's no shameful game by any stretch. So I would say ending, you're welcome. But in upcoming up, you know, the Buff Buffalo matchup, they've been giving up yardage to the slot position and so I think that Cooper cup can have a bounce back week.

[Mike Wright]

It's, it's easy to say ending based on the first two weeks. But everything you said is true. Everything you said is accurate. And there is. He's been a player that needs to score. I mean he was a double digit touchdown. One of the few double digit touchdown players last season. That is kind of one of the linchpins of Cooper cup is he needs, you know, he's had some big touchdown plays. Both Cooper cup and Robert woods did not have, you know, huge weeks last week.

[Jason Moore]

And it used to be you could count on it. You can't. Touchdowns go back and forth. You never really know who's going to be they're going to keep their touchdown totals or lose them. But there are a handful of players, you know, like Devonte Adams. I'm banking on the touchdowns coming. Calvin Ridley, Calvin Cooper cup was one of those guys. But you saw such a shift at the end of last year that there was reason for concern.

[Andy Holloway]

Let me, let me ask you.

[Mike Wright]

Highest snap percentage of his career. This, this year so far, so incredible.

[Jason Moore]

That's why you got to say ending. If he's on the field now, Ty.

[Andy Holloway]

Hilton, we know if you were to target him in a trade, he's going to cost you nothing. Or he could cost you nothing. But he's been outright terrible this last week. 100 total yards for Cooper Cup. Would you target him? Because you guys are saying that you think there's a bounce back or are you worried enough where it's like I don't want to. I don't want to pay for Cooper cup in case, you know, his touchdowns in the season at 5.

[Jason Moore]

I don't want to trade like a known fantasy football, like someone who's really contributing to my team and I know I can rely on them for the possible upside of what Cooper cup has been in previous years. But I would be real happy to go to the manager of Cooper cup with some with the fancy new waiver wire edition who's someone who's been crushing and be like hey, you interested? And let's make this trade.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's go to Calvin Ridley. Trending or ending as a top five wide receiver. He was number two in week one. Number one in week two. 12 targets, 10 targets, 16 catches on the year. 239 yards, four total touchdowns. Second most air yards in football. We already know baked into Atlanta is Matt Ryan and 300, 400 yard games. You know, I a top five wide receiver.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm going to take them.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to take it too. This is trending. Calvin Ridley is.

[Mike Wright]

It's tough when the touchdowns have been at two a week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he will not get two touchdowns a week. But what we know is that in his shorter career Calvin Ridley catches touchdowns. He double digit touchdowns as a rookie. If I remembering that correctly. Calvin Ridley. We don't want to say it, but I'll just say it. Calvin Ridley is what you want Julio Jones to be.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh mercy. I totally get what you're saying.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like that's the kind of thing that Julio hears and then drops 39 targets, 27 receptors. Julio Jones is 50 yards.

[Jason Moore]

This is not saying Julio Jones isn't still a top 10 wide receiver. I'm saying Calvin really gets the air yard, gets the targets that Julio does. But then some. He has the connection in the end zone with Matt Ryan.

[Mike Wright]

I'm bitter, okay? I bitter because I went and I tried very hard to get Calvin Ridley before this season and that would have just.

[Jason Moore]

So now you're calling for a pox?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'm not a plague on your house.

[Mike Wright]

I didn't say it was ending. I just said it's hard because of the touchdown totals. Top five is. It's a high bar.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's an exercise we can play to figure out where we'd put him. Would you rather have DeAndre Hopkins or Calvin Ridley?

[Mike Wright]

I'd rather have DeAndre Hopkins.

[Andy Holloway]

I would as well. There's one.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Vonte Adams. I would rather have Adams. Here's an interesting name. Michael Thomas Calvin Ridley.

[Mike Wright]

I take Michael Thomas so easily. He might play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

You would take Calvin Ridley and trade him for Michael Thomas?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. Oh, yeah. And Mike, would you take Michael Thomas and trade him for Calvin Ridley?

[Jason Moore]

I would.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

I get it. Maybe he plays this week.

[Mike Wright]

You're going to be able to get a lot more than Calvin Ridley. Michael Thomas.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyree kill.

[Jason Moore]

Calvin Ridley.

[Andy Holloway]

We're three in and we're already having Tyree kill. Hesitation.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. I'm not. I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's the most fun one. Obviously, Julio Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I knew that one was coming. I mean, I'm sticking with Julio Jones. Oh, gosh. Yeah, I am. I am.

[Jason Moore]

It's two weeks in and is the septic on hamstring.

[Mike Wright]

So that means that's a strong point, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

That means that Andy. I believe that's five players. So that puts Calvin Ridley at least at six.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think he finishes as a top five wide receiver. Oh, I guess that's what I just. I just decided.

[Andy Holloway]

I think because of the fact that he's got four touchdowns in two weeks, he probably will. The same way that Michael Thomas won't finish as a top five wide receiver on the season. But from this point out, from here on out, you're saying you don't believe that he will be a top five wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, and I, you know, I feel like I'm in the minority here and I'm getting. I'm getting piled up on. But here's what Michael Thomas doesn't have to deal with. Julio Jones.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Mike Wright]

On the other side of the field. And we're two weeks in. We have 14 weeks left. Michael Thomas. Let's say he misses this week. Michael Thomas for the remainder of the. Of the year with what we saw Drew Brees needing.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I get it.

[Mike Wright]

I would take Michael Thomas rest of season over Calvin Ridley.

[Jason Moore]

The concern I'd water bet it on. Put it on the board then.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

The go ahead. Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Water bet.

[Jason Moore]

The concern for Michael Thomas from my side is not Michael Thomas. It's sure he plays this week. He had a high ankle sprain. I've seen that song a dance enough that the probability of him needing multiple weeks to really return to being Michael Thomas.

[Mike Wright]

Can he backpedal to his average depth of target? Mike, where Michael Thomas is, does he need his ankles at all?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, well, that's a fun water bet. That's not one of those Derek Carr, Mitch Trubisky water bets. Well, and obviously this is a Calvin Ridley Michael Thomas water. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And baked into this is the unknown injury timeline. So I guess. And you're hoping Michael Thomas gets back quick.

[Jason Moore]

The injury timeline.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was a. That was that part. It's unfortunate in the bet, but I like it. You want to do points per game.

[Jason Moore]

The bat already happened.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a nice attempt.

[Mike Wright]

I just thought maybe Mike would go.

[Jason Moore]

Spirit of the spirit of the bat. You can't go up to the bookie. It'd be like, look, I know we already, we already made this bet.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that is the spirit of the bet though is total points, not points per game. Because if Michael Thomas was healthy and.

[Mike Wright]

Active right now, the trade right now has his injury baked in. So that's fine. And thanks, Jason. I hate you.

[Andy Holloway]

You're welcome. Ed.

[Jason Moore]

Is the other. Another piece of it to me is the Saints defense is solid. The Falcons defense are going to allow lots of points to everybody.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just going to remind people if they are piling onto me at home. Chris Godwin started the year, last year on just massive fire. And yes, he, he did.

[Jason Moore]

And where did he finish?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I know, I know. But, but the point, from that point on, there were a lot of players that you would have wanted other than Chris Godwin over the back half of the year. So maybe I, maybe this would be like the Russell Wilson bet, where it could be. You're right. But yet from this point on, Michael Thomas may average more, but Ridley might finish ahead of him.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm glad you brought up Godwin Godwin because that is a. I mean it's a comp that's been made all off season and now makes a lot of sense in season. He finished as the wide receiver too. He was phenomenal in the beginning of the year. But the second half of the year, Chris Godwin was the wide receiver 22.

[Mike Wright]

Do you hear that?

[Andy Holloway]

So 22. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And where did he finish on the year?

[Andy Holloway]

Like wide receiver 2.

[Jason Moore]

This is why I said he'll probably end up.

[Andy Holloway]

He's going to finish as a wide receiver 5.

[Jason Moore]

And Matt Ryan, much better, much more consistent quarterback than Jameis Winston.

[Mike Wright]

And he likes throwing into Julio though, man in between.

[Jason Moore]

And Chris. God, that's enough.

[Andy Holloway]

Chris.

[Jason Moore]

Goddamn.

[Mike Wright]

You mean Calvin. Calvin Ridley or Calvin Ridley?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

All right, I got something for you.

[Andy Holloway]

Breaking news.

[Mike Wright]

Two bits of news. One, Christian McCaffrey has been put on short term IR. He is out at least the next three weeks. So those that speculated he would try to get back early, he could still try because four to six weeks is, you know, I Think this is for.

[Jason Moore]

The best for fantasy football knowledge. You know, McCaffrey's out three weeks. Davis is going to be the guy for three weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

There is nothing more infuriating than a guy who, you know isn't playing, who's listed as questionable or doubtful. And you can't place in your IR and make a waiver transaction. I can't stand that. So this is actually, I agree, great news because now you know what to do and you're not going to have to play that roster spot game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And you didn't want the injured CMC being started and dealing with that. I will say this. Two minutes ago, our waivers went through and I was going to about. I was about to ask you, does that news make you raise your bid on Mike Davis? Of course you can't now. Nor did you get him.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I knew I would not. I told you yesterday I'm not going.

[Mike Wright]

To bid 42 fat.

[Andy Holloway]

I wasn't going to bid enough to get him. I was willing to go up to 30, but not higher than that. I was the Christian McCaffrey manager. So this was, you know, do I make a hard play and I'm just not willing to spend, you know, nearly half of my fab on a temporary guy who, you know, Mike Davis, he's not a.

[Mike Wright]

You should have seen Jason doing waiver tilt yesterday in the studio. Oh, it was because we were. I mean, first he went. First he petitioned to be paid for the work because he said it was such hard work.

[Andy Holloway]

Paid by who?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. But just like, it was like a job, man. It was like a job to go through all the. Because yesterday was a big waiver show. But there was still this point, like I told Jason, I got to the point where I'm putting waiver claims in and I was lucky enough not to have an injury. Jason had CMC hurt. I didn't have a major injury. And we got to this point where it was like, I kind of want these players, but if I'm not going to play them this week, how much are you going to spend on a Mike Davis or a Darrell Henderson? So I didn't really invest a lot. I spent 7 fab on Nikhil Harry to put him back on my roster, which was the same bid as somebody else. So I ended up getting him, but otherwise I didn't put heavy bids in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, perfect example. Here I have Tony Pollard right now on my team and it was do if I'm not playing Mike Davis, which in my roster right now, I wouldn't be. Would I rather have Mike Davis or Tony Pollard? And obviously there's known depth for the next at least three weeks with Mike Davis.

[Mike Wright]

That's interesting, but it's. You wouldn't have put Mike Davis in your lineup?

[Andy Holloway]

I would not have put Mike Davis in my lineup.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that changes your bid. I mean, that's why it's. Everyone wants to know, how much fab do I spend? And they want a number, and the number is contextual.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I had.

[Mike Wright]

Are you going to play him a lot?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I had Kenyon Drake and James Conner after Christian McCaffrey, so I didn't feel like I had to get Mike Davis.

[Mike Wright]

There you go. Okay. Very interesting. The other news. Did I mention it? Kenny Golladay is back at practice, so you have. You have the opportunity there.

[Jason Moore]

So smooth. Oh, you're saying try and get the trade in before the Kenny G. Before the news really breaks out.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not saying nothing, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

So smooth.

[Andy Holloway]

Just soaking it in.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, so that's the breaking news. I have some. Some news is broken during the show today, so let's go ahead and hit Thursday night.

[Andy Holloway]

Thursday night breakdown. The battle of the Mo.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, is that.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Minshew versus Fitz Magic. Are you kidding me?

[Jason Moore]

This is absolutely must watch television.

[Mike Wright]

Beard versus mustache.

[Jason Moore]

It is.

[Andy Holloway]

I can't wait for this game. If you told me, like, look at the schedule. Jaguars, Dolphins. Yuck. I can't wait to watch the real football. Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Did you see the quote from Gardner Minshew about Ryan Fitzpatrick?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I'm so happy that Mike has heard this. What? Apparently, Ryan Fitzpatrick kind of playfully attacked Minshew, saying beards are better than mustache.

[Jason Moore]

Facial hair dominance.

[Mike Wright]

And so Minshew said, you know, he's got to respect his elders, especially when they're way, way elder. So he deferred, but then.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that is great.

[Mike Wright]

Gave him the side eye, too. So the Dolphins take on the Jacksonville Jaguars. As. As we've said, Jags are two and a half point favorites at home. It's a 48 point over under. Minshew is my start of the week, so this one will be fun. Beard versus Mustache. So Fitzpatrick said, guys that grow mustaches have patchy sides.

[Jason Moore]

He may not be wrong.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's great. That is great. But Minshew, I like him in this game. Fitzpatrick, he had 28 fantasy points last week. They were a player two away from beating Buffalo. I don't think people maybe realized that with how prolific Josh Allen's been and the Bills and how they've played, but this game was actually very, very close. Jacksonville, their defense is struggling to put pressure on the quarterback. They're dead last in adjusted sack rate. Fitzpatrick will have a chance to throw the football. Couple of surprise running backs that maybe you didn't even know their names before the season began. James Robinson, Miles Gaskin in this game. Robinson been getting 16 carries in each of the first two games. I acquired him in a dynasty league, needing some depth, feeling like he's going to have a sustainable role rest of season in Jacksonville. But who do you start at the running back position in Miami? Because we thought it'd be Jordan Howard and Matt Breida, but here's Miles Gaskin.

[Jason Moore]

It is Miles Gaskin. If you're forced to start a Miami Dolphin running back number one, I am so sorry. Number two, It's. It's Miles Gaskin. The other two guys are getting out work. Jordan Howard, what was his. His line was like 3, 2, 1.

[Mike Wright]

Last 17 total snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

We call that a blast off.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it wasn't that. I mean, but it was. It was 5, 4.

[Mike Wright]

Where's the Jordan Howard truthers now?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I can't believe what has happened to Jordan Howard. Week one, eight attempts for seven yards. Week two, five attempts for four yards. Now, granted, he's. He seems to be getting exclusive work at the goal line. So he's only got one yard to go like that. The yards per carry argument, when you're like, well, what about all the goal line carries? It actually holds water for Jordan Howard. That's the only carries that he is.

[Mike Wright]

Seeing, but he would like to average one.

[Jason Moore]

It is very.

[Mike Wright]

Because that means he's successful.

[Jason Moore]

It is very bizarre what has happened with Jordan Howard was the free agent they picked up. They traded for Matt Burrita and they're like, ah, you know what? 7th round Miles Gaskin, that's the guy we need running our offense.

[Mike Wright]

28 routes run from the running back position for Miles Gaskin. I don't have the target number in front of me, but it was a lot. Oh, seven. Seven targets, six catches in this past week. Is he a flex?

[Jason Moore]

He is a. No, he is absolutely a borderline flex.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a borderline flex. He's a. He's a. He's a.

[Mike Wright]

But in this game, specifically where Jason. Do you know Jacksonville's given up 26 fantasy points to opposing running backs.

[Jason Moore]

Here are Miles Gaskins fantasy finishes the first two weeks. RB35 and RB26. That is an absolute fringe flex play. It's desperate.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, you can it's better than Chris Thompson.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I said this to Andy yesterday in the studio. I said he's a top 30 back, but I'm not sure that that matters. Like, do you really want to flex a guy who finishes at 26 on the week? That's not what you're ever hoping for. It's enough to where you're not embarrassed, but you're probably going to lose, and so it doesn't matter.

[Jason Moore]

It's tough in the streets, man. You got a lot of injuries that people are dealing with.

[Mike Wright]

You do have a lot of injuries. I mean, you'd play him over Chris Thompson.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Who's sadder, the Jordan Howard drafter or the Chris Thompson drafter right now?

[Jason Moore]

Thompson. Thompson went much higher. Thompson had huge expectations, especially from me personally.

[Mike Wright]

I will say this. James Robinson's snap percentage went down last week. Although the game script in this one lends itself towards James Robinson being pretty involved. So I think Robinson's an okay start. We have an RB19 on the week, and I think he'll be just fine. He's looked good.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The thing that I like about James Robinson is that he's passed the eye test. When we're watching these games, we're like, oh, man, that's a strong run. Oh, man, what a broken tackle. He just. He actually. He's not in the offense that you want. This isn't a prolific team that's going to be ever favored by nine points at home and just a smash play. But I trust James Robinson based on the carries he's getting based on and the film that I've watched saying he's not a bad running back.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to bring up a bonus edition of trending or ending right now. And it's D.J. chark. D.J. chark. Through two weeks, he was the wide receiver 34. He was the wide receiver 35. He's on the field 80% of the time. His targets in those two games, three and four, now, he's caught every one of them. But trending or Ending, DJ Chark, because people are panicking. I've seen it on Twitter. They're a little worried. I mean, you didn't think you were getting a wide receiver 35 the same way. We didn't think that with Cooper Cup.

[Jason Moore]

No, the. I would. I will say with a very shaky voice. Ending. I'm sometimes so in fantasy football. I was thinking about this on the drive in of when you are, you know, trading low for a player or there's kind of the two buckets that I put things into. It's number one, just talent. You know, sometimes, you know, a player is very good, like Alan Robbins, Terry McLaurin, like the Allen Robinson. That's ending. He's getting way too much volume and he's too great. DJ Chark is. You're just buying on talent alone because the peripheral numbers, the opportunities he is receiving right now are not enough. It's. It's not enough. So I, I would try to get him, but it's super sketchy right now for DJ Chark, unfortunately.

[Mike Wright]

Are you worried about him this week? He's got the injury, but we expect him to play and if he plays, it's a great situation. The Dolphins are giving up 39 fantasy points a week right now to wide receivers.

[Jason Moore]

I'm still playing him, which is crazy with their cornerbacks.

[Andy Holloway]

They paid all that money for Byron Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Well, he hasn't played, has he? Didn't he miss a week?

[Jason Moore]

No, he was, he was in, but he got knocked out last week at.

[Mike Wright]

Some point and he's probably going to miss this week.

[Jason Moore]

That's a great question. I'm talking.

[Mike Wright]

I think he might miss this week. But I. Surprisingly, I'm, I'm holding. I'm holding. With DJ Chark, I'm a hold.

[Jason Moore]

He is considered doubtful. Byron Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm holding.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

This could be the breakout week. It really could. And then on the other side of the ball, Devonte Parker is questionable. Limited it on Tuesday. I think he'll play too.

[Andy Holloway]

I like, I like Parker. I have not liked him through the first two weeks with the hamstring, injuries, the re aggravation. But he was able to play through it successfully last week and now another week. I think this is where he gets back on track and has a breakout game. I would be happy to start Devonte Parker and thrilled to play Mike Kosicki. These are the two receiving weapons I want in this game and I think both will have a big game. I, you know, I know that there's always the chance to have that major disappointment, but I think this is an over game. I think that these two quarterbacks will get it done and they're going to start just going back and forth by the end of the game scoring and I would like pieces of that on a Thursday night. Where should the opposite happen? I've got that extra time for knowledge of how my team started.

[Jason Moore]

I'll give you a little peek into tomorrow. Tomorrow is starts of the week and I took my quarterback. I went, I went a little hybrid because It's. It's a start, but it's just another streaming option because I don't think we gave him the love that he deserved on Tuesday. It's Ryan Fitzpatrick. He. Ryan Fitzpatrick is my start of the week at the quarterback position.

[Mike Wright]

All right. I have to react to something that took place in our dynasty league. Now. I thought, Mike, I thought that I was. I was going to acquire.

[Jason Moore]

You thought wrong.

[Mike Wright]

Drew sample for $50 worth of Dynasty fab. And here's Mike swooping in with $64.

[Jason Moore]

You know who's on the block.

[Mike Wright]

I just wanted some. Some depth. Yeah. I. Because I. We would be talking about CJ Uzama this week. Had not been hurt. Burrow seems to like the tight end position. That Sample looks even better for a long term view because of the draft capital. Second round pick.

[Jason Moore]

You have a second round pick, Drew Sample, who's available in our dynasty league.

[Mike Wright]

Tying him back into this game. I picked up Isaiah Ford in the dynasty league because Isaiah. Isaiah Ford has been impressive. Last week was the wide receiver 28.

[Jason Moore]

Miami Dolphins wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

That's right. Seven receptions, 76 yards, nine targets last week. Preston Williams had some drop skis in that game. Isaiah Ford is emerging a little bit. So again, it's a very deep ad in a dynasty league. But he is a spot start if you need. If you're in an emergency this week.

[Jason Moore]

I would say possibly a spot start. He's for me is just a storyline of, you know, I like to be in the games. What am I watching for? I don't really have any skin in the game on Isaiah Ford, but I'm watching. I want to see if this is a trend or not.

[Mike Wright]

He was a Matt Harmon favorite coming out of.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

The college ranks draft.

[Jason Moore]

Twitter really liked Isaiah Ford and then he plummeted, unfortunately.

[Mike Wright]

A reminder, take your Thursday night players out of the flex position. Put them in your main running back or wide receiver spot so you have flexibility later.

[Jason Moore]

Let me ask you this, Andy. Isaiah, would you. You're in deep. You're in a deep league.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You got to have a spot start. You were ravaged by injuries. You're freaking out.

[Mike Wright]

Ravaged. I've been ravaged.

[Andy Holloway]

Ravaged.

[Jason Moore]

Are you playing? Are you going to go with Isaiah Ford or would you go with Keelan Cole?

[Mike Wright]

I'd go Keelan Cole. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Keelan Cole's leading the team in targets right now.

[Mike Wright]

Keelan Cole is one of the players that when I watch him play football, I'm always like, it's like Robert woods in Buffalo. I go, man, I think Keelan Cole's good. And then he just dances around the depth chart like people.

[Andy Holloway]

It's so weird.

[Mike Wright]

And here he is again, Relevant.

[Andy Holloway]

Years ago, we watched and both of us loved Keelan Cole. We're like, man, he's going to be a thing. We grabbed him. A dynasty. And then he just disappeared for a while.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's back. Yeah. Leviska Chenault or Keelan Cole in this.

[Jason Moore]

Game, I think I'd play Cole. Okay, I got to adjust my rankings.

[Mike Wright]

All right, Anything else you guys want to add? Any other breaking news? Brooks, you got anything special for us?

[Andy Holloway]

Nothing, man. That's great. That means there was no injuries in the last 20 minutes.

[Mike Wright]

All right, we have starts of the week on tomorrow's show. We'll get into the matchups for week three. And we got football again tomorrow, guys.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it's excellent. Excellent.

[Andy Holloway]

What a world.

[Mike Wright]

True sample sniper.

[Jason Moore]

What a time to be alive.

[Mike Wright]

Take care.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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