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Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
Podcast, coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Ouch. Ouch. What's up?
Andy Holloway
Me, I'm. I'm soaring through the atmosphere right now.
Jason Moore
Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers Podcast by.
Andy Holloway
Baker Mania, Sustaining my life.
Jason Moore
One simple question. Now, this question is for Jason.
Andy Holloway
Love it.
Jason Moore
How much time did you spend last night attempting to pull your front two teeth apart? A little bit.
Mike Wright
Yes. I want to be Baker now.
Jason Moore
Mike's already got that on lockdown. He's got the Baker. He's got the Baker front two teeth. I just want to know how much did you go for gap last night?
Mike Wright
I went for teeth black. That's what I like. Teeth blackout. Little marker that I can just write a little line right down the middle.
Jason Moore
The beard. You got the beard.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
I've seen you throw a football. That part you don't have.
Mike Wright
No, I can't throw like Baker. Certainly not.
Jason Moore
Welcome in. Great show for you. Today we have some news. We'll go in and out, let you know what we think about the injuries that are cropping up, whether people will play. We'll talk about that Thursday night game, Baker Mayfield and others. And we'll get into. We'll have a daily dose on the show. The rest of the fantasy forecast. My almost upset. It'll be fun. It's going to be a good day. I. I don't know where to go from here. Let's just jump into the Thursday night recap because there are massive fantasy football implications.
Andy Holloway
Massive.
Jason Moore
When you talk about the potential for Baker Mayfield to start here on out, it's like, you know, Mike, you made a World of Warcraft joke two days ago. Much to the. To the enjoyment of about 8% of our audience.
Andy Holloway
Hey. And we're strong.
Jason Moore
Here's the Thing. Baker Mayfield represents one of those party buffs. That group buff, you know, where he powers up, he powers up everybody else.
Andy Holloway
I. I make one of the nerdiest jokes this show has ever seen where I just talk about playing World of Warcraft. And you're. But now you're talking about actual in game mechanics.
Jason Moore
Not from World Warcraft, just in general. Like any in game mechanic where your party increases in value. Carlos Hyde, Jarvis Landry, Antonio Calloway, David and Joku to an aoe.
Mike Wright
You know what I mean?
Jason Moore
That's what I'm saying.
Mike Wright
Yes. Yes, for sure.
Jason Moore
So, but do I need to address Tyron? Do I need to eulogize?
Andy Holloway
I mean, you can. Like, we got to make sure that Hugh Jackson does the right thing first.
Mike Wright
Oh, he can't. Like, I made a tweet halfway through the game about how if Baker somehow brings the team back and looks magical, Hugh Jackson will make him the backup because he's just an idiot. And then after the game he's like, well, I gotta go look at the film. Were you not watching?
Jason Moore
I can't excuse the words.
Mike Wright
The verbiage.
Jason Moore
The verbiage. I do think it's respectful when you've made a commitment to a starter like Tyrod to speak to him before you go to the media and say, baker's our guy.
Mike Wright
Sure.
Jason Moore
But to say I've got to go watch the tape is ridiculous. It's like a coach trying to do coach speak. Like he read a book on it.
Mike Wright
That's huge.
Jason Moore
He's like, what would coach speak be right now? Let me see my. Let me check my list.
Andy Holloway
Did you also see him defending the Philly special that they ran? Pretty much saying, no, no, no, I didn't take that. We've been running that for years. Who cares, man?
Jason Moore
It was great.
Andy Holloway
It was. It was a great call. It worked. You don't have to pretend that you invented this play. We've seen it.
Jason Moore
So nuts and bolts here. Tyrod, I thought he would have success because he doesn't make mistakes. And they have a great defense. Denzel Ward is legit. Miles Garrett is legit. Greg Williams. The amount of looks they showed Sam Darnold yesterday made Darnold look like a late round draft.
Mike Wright
It looks rough.
Jason Moore
So, you know, I thought Tyrod would be able to do enough. There's no excuse for the way he played to start that game. I would have, you know, you hope he's okay, obviously, with a concussion and things like that. But we were all on Baker watch anyway. We thought if he didn't score in the first half. Baker, you'd see him in the second half anyway.
Mike Wright
Tyrod Taylor is going to have the slowest concussion protocol progression of all time. It's going to be. We're still, I mean, possible. That's the one way that Hugh Jackson can, like, have Baker be the starter and not go back on his word to Tyrone.
Jason Moore
He needs to be happy, injured, be happy you won.
Andy Holloway
You don't.
Jason Moore
You don't win that game. The controversy and the debate and all that stuff becomes much more annoying and prominent. I mean, I don't know what happened between, like, the whole team played better with Baker. Tyrod was getting blitzed out of his mind. He was being. And he wasn't making throws to the middle of the field. Obviously, Baker did that and changed the whole defense, but they weren't.
Andy Holloway
The jets were not scared at all of what Tyrod was bringing to the offense. That's why they were able to defend him the way that they were.
Jason Moore
Absolutely correct. So looking forward, with Baker Mayfield very likely behind center, I have almost no doubt that he'll be the quarterback to start week 10 days away. Looking forward, obviously Sam Darnold came out, had a great performance in week one. Teams have adjusted. What are your expectations for Baker as a fantasy player and do you view him more as the AOE upgrade for Jarvis Landry and Callaway and company than a startable fantasy asset in and of himself? Like, what is your perspective on the whole Browns offense?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think everybody gets a bump up. Jarvis Landry becomes an absolute, you know, if he's not a wide receiver one, then he's one of the best wide receiver twos out there. Everyone gets a bump. And I believe Baker Mayfield and I mean, he's not by any means. You know, he's a rookie. He's not just a. Oh, go. You got to start Baker because he looked great, but he is a guy that in a good matchup should be started. He's not someone I'm shying away from because he's a rookie. He. Look, he did on the field.
Andy Holloway
You're not, you're not blowing the number one waiver priority to grab Baker Mayfield. I'm going to ask that question.
Mike Wright
No. If it's not a Pat Mahomes level fire. Right. I would never blow that waiver for a quarterback. Sure.
Jason Moore
And this team is going to do what they can to protect Baker as well, which is. You saw this around the goal line. They're going to run the ball. That's the way they're going to run the offense.
Andy Holloway
I was going to bring up Carlos Hyde. I pumped the brakes on Carlos Hyde this week because I wasn't expecting Baker Mania to break out at halftime. And yeah, Hyde was getting. He had a couple good runs for the first half, but the offense as a whole was really, really bad. And that was what I was so nervous about for Carlos Hyde. But now you saw it. You saw the jets freak out. They had to actually defend the pass. That made things a lot easier for Carlos Hyde, who will continue to be.
Mike Wright
The guy this is great for. So it's.
Andy Holloway
This is great news for Carlos Hyde.
Jason Moore
Carlos Hyde, it was his birthday yesterday.
Mike Wright
Mm.
Jason Moore
His wife is in labor. He's about to have a child. He goes out there and drops two touchdowns. I had to feel good against my dynasty team.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
On the other side of the ball, are you just. Are you ready to cut Robbie Anderson and say goodbye?
Mike Wright
I already cut him, so yes, 100%. If he's still on your roster, I am fine cutting him as I was last week. And even after week one, it.
Jason Moore
Robbie Anderson has a wall dedicated to Josh McCown. He's cut out every picture. He's pasted it up on the wall. It's a little creepy, but, yeah, if.
Mike Wright
Darnold were to go down to injury, I will rush to the waiver wire for Robbie Anderson. His talent is there. But this offense right now with a rookie, Sam Darnold is not built for his skill set. Quincy Nuno is the clear, you know, primary target. But even still, this is not a high powered offense that you really need to start. The leader of the. Of the receiving core, Jermaine Curse is.
Jason Moore
Back, was second on the team in targets. It's another problem for Robbie Anderson. What do you make of the Powell? Crowell split? Sixteen carries for Crowell. Two touchdowns on 34 yards. And then Bilal Powell looked electric 14 for 73. Perennially underutilized Bilal Powell now in a, you know, he's in a timeshare and Darnold hasn't looked like he's going to keep people accountable through the air thus far this season. So do you expect big things from these guys or are you going to be a little frustrated knowing which one to start?
Andy Holloway
You are going to be frustrated. It's. If you have to make the choice between the two, number one, I'm sorry for your loss that you have to make that decision every week, but it would be Powell on a weekly basis. For me, Crowell is going to be touchdown or bus. Now, it worked out. I had a Lot of people sliding into my mentions being man, I. Ben's Crowell. That was the right call. The, the process of benching Crowell against this Cleveland Browns offense. 34 yards on the road was the right call. Bilal Powell looks like the much better running back, but they're just going to, they're, they're going to destroy each other's fantasy value until we can get some actual checkdowns to Bilal Powell in that. In the opportunity that Sam Darnold had to bring the team back for a game winning score, he didn't look to check it down to his running back at all. He forced some things including that last throw which was horrendous. Meanwhile, blah. Powell was wide open. So there's, there's some growing pains that Sam Darnold is going to experience and blow. Powell is affected by that.
Mike Wright
You know what stinks for Browns? I'm excited. Look, Cleveland, I'm so excited for you. I'm so excited for you. Like I am. I am thrilled and right now I am a believer. I think with Baker. With Baker you've got a good offense and I know you've got a good defense. Hopefully they can overcome your head coach, which I believe sometimes they can. But what stinks is they could. Like I believe that if they had made Baker their starter, they'd be three. And oh, right now they were so close in both of the week one and week two. It's a shame. And they would have been 03. I mean they were down what, four?
Jason Moore
They might have been three. And oh, if they had a different kicker too. I mean in Tyrod's defense, like the cheat code of Tyrod Taylor panned out in the first two weeks. 28 fantasy points. 20 fantasy points. The problem was they Browns all over themselves for two straight weeks and they did manage to tie Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh, which was. I think that showed me that the Browns were going to compete this year as opposed to be outmatched this year. Their defense is good. Their kicker situation, I don't know if it's fixed.
Mike Wright
I was in Cleveland, right?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah, it was in Cleveland. But last question about this for Jason Antonio Calloway. He only had four receptions for 20 yards, but that utilization of him breaking free Josh or Tyrod Taylor under threw Callaway on a for sure touched him.
Jason Moore
Callaway also dropped it a dime from Baker.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that was Baker's best pass of the night. But I'm saying he's, he's getting used.
Jason Moore
I want it.
Andy Holloway
He is extremely talented.
Jason Moore
I want him.
Andy Holloway
There was Another play where he broke free as well, but Tyrod didn't see it. So where. What's your temperature on Cal Claiborne was.
Jason Moore
Holding him all night.
Mike Wright
Temperature is, is certainly rising. Oh, for sure. I mean, you've got a guy now that can find him, hit him whenever you've got the combination of a wide receiver that is getting open and making plays and then you've got a quarterback that will hit an open wide receiver. That's a pretty good combination. And you know, next week they're playing the Raiders. I think that's a.
Jason Moore
People were just, people were just catching passes better for Baker. I mean, his throw to Landry, not a great throw. Landry made a play his throat in Joku way behind him. Ninjoku made a great play. They were just. The energy on that team changed. Yeah, there was hope in the building. And Jason, eventually you'll get those teeth separated. Let's play in and out.
Mike Wright
What's it going to be, McFly?
Andy Holloway
Are you in or out?
Jason Moore
Marcus Mariota, Aaron Rodgers.
Andy Holloway
Rogers is in. I mean he's, he's just not going to practice for probably half half of the year, if not the entire year. But he will play Mariota. I don't have a good read on if Mariota is going to play or not. Jason, do you? Yeah.
Mike Wright
The offensive coordinator Matt LaFleur said he's looking good in practice. If you know if he's looking good in practice. I think he plays and they need him to.
Jason Moore
A reminder. This is our projection on who we think is going to start and sit. If you want to be up to date to the minute, we have a game day alerts that we release on jointhefoot.com Sunday morning. Mike is on his Sunday livestream on Sunday morning. But right now this is where we're at with these guys. Dalvin Cook with the hamstring didn't practice Thursday. In or out? I'm an out.
Andy Holloway
I think. Yeah, I lean out.
Mike Wright
If I were the head coach and I'm playing Buffalo, there's no way I'm risking Dalvin Cook. I mean the reports are that he's still going to play. They're just resting him so he might be in. And if he's in, you play him.
Jason Moore
Pick up Latavius Murray.
Mike Wright
Of course. Yeah, that's what I've been trying to do.
Jason Moore
Leonard Fernet, hamstring injury in or out?
Andy Holloway
In.
Mike Wright
In.
Jason Moore
T.J. eldon ankle injury in.
Mike Wright
In.
Jason Moore
Jai back injury out. Darren Sproul's hamstring out.
Mike Wright
Out.
Jason Moore
LaShawn McCoy with the ribs out.
Andy Holloway
He. He's getting in limited practices, but a non. I'm wearing a non contact jersey. While he's at it, I lean out, but I'm with Jason. It will not shock me if Shady suits up, but I don't want to play him.
Jason Moore
Marshawn lynch, shoulder injury, limited Thursday.
Andy Holloway
And in beast mode, plays Derek Henry.
Jason Moore
Back injury, limited Thursday.
Mike Wright
I think he's in.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
Marlon Mack, foot hamstring, didn't practice Thursday or today.
Mike Wright
I'm gonna say out. I mean, he's an out.
Jason Moore
He's an out.
Mike Wright
When he had a hamstring injury, gets back in the game and now is missing practice. That's. That's no bueno.
Andy Holloway
Jordan Wilkins.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Moving up.
Jason Moore
Jordan Wilcoms. Jordan Wilkins or Philip Lindsay?
Andy Holloway
Great question asking for a friend.
Jason Moore
Of course, asking for a friend.
Mike Wright
Based on the matchup, I'm not going to take Wilkins against Philadelphia.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you've got Lindsay against Baltimore. Both of them on the road.
Andy Holloway
Eileen Wilkins.
Jason Moore
All right, wide receiver, in or out? DeAndre Hopkins.
Andy Holloway
In.
Jason Moore
Will Fuller.
Andy Holloway
In.
Jason Moore
Ty Hilton?
Andy Holloway
In.
Jason Moore
Josh Gordon.
Andy Holloway
No clue.
Mike Wright
I'm going to say out.
Jason Moore
Do you care this week? Would you start him this week?
Andy Holloway
No, no, I care a lot.
Jason Moore
Well, that's all. I mean, do you think he'll be a. Like, does it matter to your fantasy team?
Mike Wright
No, no.
Jason Moore
Julio Jones.
Andy Holloway
He's fine.
Jason Moore
Larry Fitzgerald.
Andy Holloway
We got beat reporters saying that Larry Fitzgerald will go.
Jason Moore
Chris Godwin.
Mike Wright
I think he's in.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
Marquis Goodwin.
Mike Wright
He's finally practicing in part.
Jason Moore
I think he'll play.
Mike Wright
I do as well.
Andy Holloway
If he plays. Are you. Is he automatically into your lineup?
Jason Moore
I don't know if anybody is automatically, but yes.
Andy Holloway
What? I put the emphasis on the wrong syllable for you.
Jason Moore
It was just funny. Alshon, Jeffrey. Shoulder injury.
Mike Wright
Out.
Jason Moore
Ted Ginn.
Andy Holloway
In.
Mike Wright
In.
Jason Moore
Paul Richardson.
Mike Wright
Doesn't matter. So what?
Andy Holloway
So what?
Jason Moore
Who cares? Cole Beasley.
Andy Holloway
Oh, he'll be spreading those bezels.
Mike Wright
So what?
Jason Moore
Travis Benjamin. Doesn't matter. Tight ends, Evan Ingram.
Andy Holloway
He will play. Head coach Pat Schermer says he's fine.
Jason Moore
Jack Doyle did not practice Thursday or Friday.
Andy Holloway
That's troublesome.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I mean, I haven't heard too, too many details on this injury, but if you don't practice on a Friday, usually you don't play locked and loaded.
Jason Moore
Eric Ebron. In that situation.
Mike Wright
Yes, certainly.
Jason Moore
Rob Gronkowski. Ankle injury popped up. I watched nothing. Yeah, I watched Ian Rap Ford. Talk about this.
Andy Holloway
This is new record, guys. It took till week three that we got an injury report for Rob Gronkowski. So he's doing well and he's going to play.
Mike Wright
They're healthy. ASJ certainly playing. He's been dealing with this core injury since before week one.
Andy Holloway
He's playing processor.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Tyrod gave me a core injury last night.
Mike Wright
We tried to warn you.
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Andy Holloway
Kurt Warner I just wanted to bring this up. Kurt Warner has Baker Mania as well. He just tweeted out he's watched the tape. The quick decision making, anticipation and Confidence throwing the ball last night was better than a lot of starting quarterbacks.
Jason Moore
Oh, my gosh. The number one pick is supposed to be good.
Andy Holloway
I'm just saying.
Mike Wright
I've seen a lot of. I've seen a lot of number one picks that don't look as good as Baker has.
Andy Holloway
I'm just saying, Kurt Warner, he has to be great. No, he doesn't.
Jason Moore
If you're the number one pick, you do.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Just.
Jason Moore
That's why you get picked number one. You got to be great. We love Baker.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Baker's amazing.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
But it's not. It shouldn't be like, oh, my goodness, this is a surprise. You could. You drafted him number one in the NFL.
Andy Holloway
Right. So you're admitting that Baker Mayfield's great, yet his head coach did not want to play him.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Like Aaron Rodgers. Is he great?
Mike Wright
He was.
Jason Moore
Head coach didn't want to play him. I mean, you.
Andy Holloway
That's true.
Jason Moore
Give me a break. You give a guy a chance.
Mike Wright
He did look great and.
Jason Moore
Yeah, and he's going to look bad at times this year, too.
Mike Wright
It was different. And we've seen so many rookies come in and not look anywhere near. Near that. Jamarcus says what?
Jason Moore
Okay, yeah. Jamarcus is the standard. All I'm saying is he's a great player. That's why he went number one, made great plays. That's good. You want that to happen. Raiders take on the dolphins. 02 Raiders against the 2 and O dolphins. Dolphins minus three in this game. 43 1/2 point over under. Dolphins are 2 and OH. Raiders looking for a win.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Derek Carr, Marshawn lynch and company. Where are you feeling. Where are you feeling the love for this Raiders offense? I mean, Derek Carr had a very good game last week. Did not come away with the win. You know what?
Mike Wright
Oh, wait. What? Andy's almost upset of the week.
Jason Moore
Raiders getting off the Schneid in this one.
Mike Wright
I agree. I have the Raiders winning this game. I think it's a good matchup for personnel. I mean, you look at the Raiders, they want to run the ball. They want to go beast mode, have Marshawn lynch carry the load. And the Dolphins have been weak against the run this year. They're, you know, in the bottom 10 of fantasy points given up against running back. Last year, they were even worse than that. So, you know, the trend is continuing. I think you can bank on Marshawn lynch this week, even on the road.
Jason Moore
Marshawn, you're starting him. Amari Cooper, they involved him. Jordy Nelson does Not seem like he's going to be anything this year.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So how are you feeling about Amari Cooper? With. Through two games of the season, the Dolphins defense has been stout against fantasy wide receivers. Again, you got to take into account who they have played. But Amari Cooper does his own vanishing act from time to time. He reappears. He's. He's. It's a little bit like Groundhog Day, where once or twice, I mean, I know Groundhog Day is only once, but Corey Cooper, once a season likes to pop his head up and say, I can. I can do really good things on the football field. But then he goes away for the rest of the year.
Mike Wright
Well, and the thing that he's done historically, I mean, this is, this is two years of doing this where when he has a big game, everyone chases it and starts him and then he disappears. You bring up that, you know, they've. The Dolphins have been good against the wide receiver this year. They were actually surprisingly good against the wide receiver last year. And part of that is because of how bad they were against the run. I mean, a lot of times when you're, when you've got a strength or a weakness that is more extreme, it falsely impacts other positions. You know, if you can run on them, you don't need to throw the ball as much. So I'm not digging Amari Cooper that much this week. Even coming off of the 10 target, 10 reception game, I just don't want to fall into the Cooper trap.
Jason Moore
Well, anybody who drafted him has already fallen in. That's. That's the problem. You fell in.
Mike Wright
I'm. But.
Jason Moore
And now you're, you're down in the pit and you've been trying to climb up those slippery walls and you. I just don't think that fantasy owners are in a very comfortable position with Amari Cooper because if you took him, you know, you're. You're stuck with really tough decision every week. It's like, do you go in on Amari? You drafted him with semi high draft capital.
Andy Holloway
I'm playing him this week.
Jason Moore
You're playing him this week. And now let's ask the question about some specific players. I mean, are you playing him over. You're playing him over Corey Davis?
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Who faces Jacksonville? Are you playing him over Kenny Galladay against New England? Who would you rather play in that matchup?
Mike Wright
I would probably put Cooper in.
Jason Moore
That's what I would do.
Mike Wright
And it would probably be the wrong decision. I mean, that's. Look, I've got Cooper on, you know, my dominant 0 and 2, league of record team dominating, dominating that, that winless start and you know, off of a 10 target, 10 reception over 100 yard performance. You try to trade them, you try to capitalize because I, I want to wash my hands. I want to get the, I want to get them clean.
Jason Moore
Nelson Aguilar or Amari Cooper Aguilar against Indianapolis.
Mike Wright
Aguilar.
Andy Holloway
I would, yeah, it. Aguilar is just a guy that's really difficult for me to trust and that's on me.
Mike Wright
He was, you know, I think he had a breakout last year and with Carson Wentz coming back with Alshon Jeffrey gone, if you can't trust him now.
Jason Moore
You know, when can you trust?
Andy Holloway
You don't know me by now. Sorry.
Jason Moore
So on the Miami, on the Miami side of the ball, the Dolphins have the highest run to pass ratio in the league. 51% run plays. The league average is 39%. So they are ground and pound right now. Kenyan Drake, Frank Gore, they're trying to take a little pressure off of Tannehill. What do you think about the Miami offense at home? They're two and.
Andy Holloway
Oh, love Drake. Well, love Drake.
Jason Moore
Love the Drake.
Andy Holloway
Yep, the Raiders are susceptible. What is happening?
Jason Moore
Well, he didn't get the Seinfeld reference so he jumped into Drake the singer.
Mike Wright
Yeah, Drake. Drake has been.
Andy Holloway
We saw Gurley handle business. We saw Philip Lindsay handle business against the Raiders. So I'm all, I'm all in on Kenya Drake this week.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't believe that Jon Gruden came out and said that finding a pass rusher is difficult.
Andy Holloway
Oh, Gruden.
Mike Wright
That's very.
Andy Holloway
I love you John Gruden.
Jason Moore
Sounds like something Hugh Jackson would say.
Andy Holloway
It does.
Jason Moore
All right. The Bills, Owen to take on the 1. Oh and 1 Vikings. The Vikings are 16 1/2 point favorites and the over under is just 40 points. Will the Bill score in this matchup in Minnesota?
Mike Wright
I do not think it will be a shutout. I do not think they will get.
Andy Holloway
To double digit points over under six.
Jason Moore
Six is the right, the right point there.
Mike Wright
I'm going to take the under.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Jason Moore
I'm going to. I think, I think Allen will throw a touchdown in this game. So I think 10 points is about where you're expecting them to be.
Andy Holloway
Is that when Minnesota puts the third string defense in, it might be at the end of the game.
Jason Moore
I think Allen will get him in the end zone.
Mike Wright
There is not a Buffalo Bill that I would start under any circumstance. If Shady is in with his rib injury and what's Going on against this defense with the anemic offense we've seen so far from the Bills, there's a matchup where I'll play Bills players. I would throw Kelvin Benjamin out there. I'd definitely play shady. It's not the Vikings, who I believe to have the best defense in the league. I'm benching them all.
Jason Moore
I'm benching them all.
Andy Holloway
Yep. Agreed.
Mike Wright
And by that I mean bench shady because everyone else has been cut. Right.
Andy Holloway
Sure.
Jason Moore
So on the Minnesota fantasy rosters.
Mike Wright
Yes. From. I mean, you posted a tweet.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Chris Ivory could be somebody that people are adding this week to try to grab a running back start.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Just in case deeper leagues.
Mike Wright
Sure. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
On the Minnesota side of the ball, they're going to score points. Are you fine, though, with Kirk Cousins and the pass catchers? Because. And that may seem like a silly question, but it's. If the Vikings just can totally dominate this game with Latavius Murray and Dalvin Cook, do you have any concerns that the passing game in Minnesota won't get it done?
Mike Wright
No. The ceiling is not as high in this game, but they're going to be great. I mean, they're going to come out, they're going to throw the ball, they're going to get a lead, and in doing that, they will secure fantasy points for Thielen, for Diggs. It's just not going to be huge numbers.
Jason Moore
You want to hear a ridiculous stat?
Mike Wright
Always.
Jason Moore
Michael Thomas is 28 receptions, 269 yards and three touchdowns. The Bills as a team have 29 receptions and 343 yards, one touchdown.
Andy Holloway
Oh, Buffalo.
Jason Moore
So Michael Thomas versus the Bills. That's kind of a coin flip at this point.
Andy Holloway
Take Thomas.
Jason Moore
Latavius Murray is the potential steal of this game.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
If Dalvin Cook is out and they're grinding the clock out, Latavius could have a very, very good game.
Andy Holloway
I think. Even if Dalvin Cook plays.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Latavius Murray is a sneaky snort.
Jason Moore
I would rather start Latavius Murray right now without knowing what's happening with Cooking than I would Chris Ivory in this game.
Mike Wright
100%.
Jason Moore
Even if he had the backfield to himself.
Mike Wright
Right. Look, if starts of the week were today and not yesterday, knowing that Dalvin missed another practice, I would have made Latavius Murray my start of the week to give people confidence. If he's on your roster, he should be started. Because even if Dalvin plays, why would you play him second half if you are up 16 and a half points like Vegas thinks? When Latavius Murray can get the job done.
Andy Holloway
Did you know that we make the rules on the show, Jason? So even though starts of the week was in fact yesterday, Latavius Murray actually switched.
Jason Moore
Who was your start of the week yesterday?
Mike Wright
My start of the week?
Andy Holloway
He doesn't even remember.
Mike Wright
It was Lamar Miller.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Do you.
Andy Holloway
Are you making an official switch?
Mike Wright
Sure.
Andy Holloway
Let's take it to the judge.
Mike Wright
Can you get a ruling I put.
Andy Holloway
Is this allowed?
Mike Wright
Murray, you sure you don't want to wait, see if he practices today, Dalvin Cook, before you make it official? No. Okay.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. What's the ruling? All right, that's fine.
Mike Wright
He's trying to protect me. But my point is, even if Dalvin Cook is active and playing, based on what he's already missed, I think Latavius Murray is a fine start.
Jason Moore
All right, let's move on to the Colts Eagles matchup. Both teams sit at one and one. Carson Wentz returns. Eagles are six and a half point favorites. The game's a 47 and a half point over under. These two teams have the highest target shares for tight ends in the entire league. Now, it makes sense, right? You got Zach Ertz as the primary pass catcher in Philadelphia. And then it seems as though the tight ends are providing a very safe place for Andrew Luck in his return to the NFL. And we talked about Jack Doyle. Didn't practice on Thursday, didn't practice on Friday. Eric Ebron looks like a very strong streaming tight end option.
Andy Holloway
Yes, he does.
Jason Moore
With a lot of upside in this game, especially if we expect it to play out as Vegas does, which is Philadelphia winning this game, being in the lead, they need to throw the ball. And outside of Hilton, there's not a lot of options in Indianapolis.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I completely agree. This. It could be like the. The Dalvin Cook situation where I. I still lean. I know that Eric Ebron has the production with the touchdowns, but I lean that Jack Doyle is the tight end from the team I'd rather have because he's getting on the field more. He's has more snaps, he's running more routes, more opportunity. But if Jack Doyle is banged up, maybe they. Maybe Eric Ebron sees the snaps increase this week regardless of if Jack Doyle is out. So Eric Ebron is shaping up to be a very strong start.
Jason Moore
You brought up Jesse James as your start of the week yesterday. Do you feel more comfortable with Jesse James or Eric Ebron if he's in a solo role?
Andy Holloway
Eric Ebron, Yeah, by a lot.
Jason Moore
Yeah, me too.
Mike Wright
This is also a game where I expect, like you said, Andy The Colts will be passing more and I don't think they're going to have success running the ball. Last year the Eagles were the second most difficult matchup for running backs. This year they've looked fantastic. No reason to believe that anything has changed for them there. With Marlon Mack injured, Jordan Wilkins and Naim Hines not being very talented. In my opinion, they're. They're not going to have success there. So I like Ty Hilton, Ebron and Luck. I'm high on all of them for this week. But I don't want to start one of the running backs from the Colts side of the ball.
Andy Holloway
Let me ask you this. We are. We're still two games away. Are you giving any consideration and this is deeper leagues of course. Six bench plus. Are you going to stash Bob Turbin.
Jason Moore
Because it's been such a.
Andy Holloway
It's been a poop show.
Jason Moore
Right.
Andy Holloway
The running back situation. The team likes Robert Turbin. They've showed us that.
Jason Moore
Don't you have to use two bench slots for those biceps? Isn't that the requirement for Turban takes two spots?
Andy Holloway
But this is a legitimate question. Do you think Robert Turbin is an okay stash at this point? He still has two more games on his suspension.
Jason Moore
No.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I wouldn't wait two more. Once it's one more.
Andy Holloway
So next week after this weekend plays out, you'd let the waivers run through so you're not burning a priority or any kind of fab. Would you throw Robert Turban on the back of the bench?
Mike Wright
If I am in need of running back help and like you said, it's a deeper league with deeper bench then yes.
Jason Moore
I'd still rather roster Jordan Wilkins than Bob Turbin.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
Certainly if both of them were on the waivers, I would grab Wilkins for sure.
Jason Moore
Even I don't think we want to touch that whole backfield like that. That's a. That's a backfield that always lives on everybody's benches. Like all the players are distributed to all the fantasy owners benches someday and none of them ever start. It's like one guy's got Mac, one guy's got. Somebody asked this. Let me throw it out there. Keep trade cut right now. Sonny Michelle. Rex Burke had James White.
Mike Wright
That's so stupid. I think you have to keep Sony Michelle. Trade James White and cut Rex Burkus.
Jason Moore
Sorry, that was all the Burkhead owners.
Andy Holloway
I'm speaking on behalf of and I'm one of them and it's a really difficult question.
Mike Wright
I don't think I've ever seen this level of sadness in your eyes because you're contemplating the question and it's genuinely.
Andy Holloway
Making you sad because I'm trying to answer it. Think about it honestly and not just be like, I got Rex Burkhead. I love him. Let's play Rex Burkhead. But I'm not to the point where I'm willing to cut Burkhead.
Jason Moore
No, nobody's playing keep, trade cut though. What are you doing? You got to do it.
Andy Holloway
I'm keeping James White.
Mike Wright
I don't blame you.
Andy Holloway
James White. And who's got more value between Rex Burkitt and Sony to trade? I don't want to Sony right now.
Jason Moore
I don't want to leave the matchup without talking about Jay situation. Jai and Darren Sprols both sidelined in Friday's practice. Not trending the right direction. Corey Clementine. Oh, he wheels up.
Mike Wright
Yeah, 100%. It was. It's so funny how things can change because a couple weeks ago after Week 1, I cut him. Corey Clement cut him in one league.
Andy Holloway
Because he's doing his monster stomps. He was juking nobody in the backfield.
Mike Wright
He looked terrible and he was really excited and he was barely utilized. But then when the two starters ahead of you go down, that usually helps opportunity and he is a must start this week, I believe. Isn't he your start of the week?
Andy Holloway
He is. I'm super excited for Corey this weekend.
Jason Moore
The 101 packers take on the one on one Redskins in Washington Redskins are three point underdogs at home 45 and a half point over under Aaron Rodgers showed he can play with one leg again last week. This means good things for Devonte Adams, but what does it mean for Randall Cobb and Geronimo Allison? I would start Jimmy Graham over both of those players by a lot. Jimmy had a very nice week last week and you know this. The packers should have won that game. The call on Clay Matthews was trash.
Andy Holloway
Definitely questionable.
Jason Moore
Great, great comeback by Minnesota. It feels like Minnesota won the game even though they tied. It feels that way. But looking at the packers for fantasy, what do we expect from this game and who do you feel confident in starting? I mean the Redskins have been a, you know, they've been a pretty good defense this year.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I mean they, they've they certainly looked good against Arizona. The question is, was that them or was that Arizona?
Jason Moore
I couldn't tell you. They contained Andrew Luck and the Colts. They did lose, but that was more on the offense.
Mike Wright
So yeah, the name that sticks out to me is the one that you Already brought up, which is Jimmy Graham. Not only was he utilized last week, but this is a perfect matchup for him. The Washington Redskins have been atrocious against tight ends. This is part of why going into week one, we were higher on Ricky Seals Jones, who had the opportunity and could have beaten them. But the Arizona Cardinals, and more specifically Sam Bradford and the offensive line were so horrifically bad that they couldn't move the ball at all. That being said, you look last week, Eric Ebron got a touchdown. You know, it's not like they were great against the tight end. So you can't really look at this year's numbers based on week one and week two. I'm looking more at last year's roster, you know, for how Washington played against the tight end. I think Jimmy Graham's primed for a big day.
Andy Holloway
And between, if we're talking secondary pass catchers for the packers, the one I would be interested in is Geronimo. He's just. He's reliable, he's consistent, he gets deeper targets than Randall Cobb. And we know he's.
Mike Wright
He's flashed.
Andy Holloway
We. He can hit the big push.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
So that's where I would go if I have to choose. And that's. Jimmy Graham is certainly a good play this weekend.
Mike Wright
Now, what about for the Redskins? I mean, I've got Jordan Reed as my start of the week.
Jason Moore
I love Chris Thompson. Each and every week I've tried to trade for him in every league I got him. I mean, every league I can. Because I think Thompson's role is the most consistent, secure, the talent plus opportunity for Chris Thompson. I think he's going to be a top 15 guy year. Until he gets hurt.
Andy Holloway
Sure.
Jason Moore
Which I'm not. I'm not going to say is a foregone conclusion. I know he's been banged out before, but he's dominant.
Andy Holloway
He is. And yeah. You were in on Chris Thompson. He made me nervous, man. So I have to admit, I have no shares of Chris Thompson. And I'm sad about it. I'm sad because the man. Do you know me? Yards he's averaging. How many receiving yards he's averaging a week?
Jason Moore
Probably like 80. I don't know.
Andy Holloway
No, it's a. It's a great number. Oh, 55.
Jason Moore
55.
Mike Wright
Very nice.
Andy Holloway
Do we. Do we have it? Is it ready? Ah, Sorry, I put. Oh, hey.
Jason Moore
We may or may not have had a complete and utterly catastrophic destruction of our soundboard this morning.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Right before the show.
Mike Wright
Cannot confirm nor deny.
Jason Moore
No. But I will tell you that we may or may not have access to about seven total drops. So don't say anything about certain players. That's all I'm saying.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Jason Moore
Like Mevin Ness. Bumptious.
Mike Wright
Oh, bumptious.
Andy Holloway
All right.
Jason Moore
Bumpsheous.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Chris Thompson's a great play.
Jason Moore
Adrian Peterson, he's got the backfield to himself. Do you feel like you can start him this week? I'd start him over Jamal Williams in the same game.
Mike Wright
I would not.
Jason Moore
I would start him over him to the point of a water bet with.
Andy Holloway
Jamal Williams in the same.
Mike Wright
Jamal Williams. Adrian Peterson water bet.
Jason Moore
I would do it.
Mike Wright
I would do it as well. Oh, water bets.
Jason Moore
I love it because that's kind of a roundabout way of betting on Aaron Jones against you, which is great. It's great.
Mike Wright
And that's what I want to be a part of.
Jason Moore
So anything else you want to talk about in this one?
Andy Holloway
You cannot trust any of the Washington pass catchers. Paul Richardson is banged up. I am the eternal optimist on Josh Dachshund, who got seven targets this past week. So I'm not adding him, but I've got an eye on him. I want to see what happens as the year evolves.
Jason Moore
Chargers one and one taking on the two and. Oh, Rams. The Rams, right now, they look pretty darn good. Minus seven is the line. Rams are. Well, they're. They're playing great. 48 point over under. What do you expect from this matchup? Do you think that the Chargers have a chance of challenging the Rams in this game?
Andy Holloway
I do. I think the line is. Is pretty high. I get it.
Jason Moore
Battle.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
For Los Angeles, the Chargers, their. Their defense has not been what we had hoped for, but with some injuries, especially with Joey Bosa missing all the time, it. It certainly makes sense. But Philip Rivers and company, I think they can keep pace slightly behind the. The pace of the Rams, but I think there's gonna be a lot of points in this game.
Jason Moore
So the must starts are Rivers. Gordon Rivers is a must start in the matchup. No, he's not.
Mike Wright
For me, no, Rivers is not a must start here. You know, over the course of the season, he will end up as, you know, a quarterback one, but he has his matchups where, you know, usually he'll be quarterback. 15, 16, 18. And this is that type of a matchup. Could. Could he need to keep up and have a good game? Absolutely. But could he really have a hard time against a great Los Angeles Rams defense? Certainly. So I think high floor, low ceiling. No low floor, high ceiling. And yeah, I'm probably not starting Philip Rivers, I'm a little bit scared of him, but Melvin Gordon and Keenan Allen are must starts, of course, and I don't really want to touch another Charger.
Jason Moore
Antonio Gates only played 11 snaps last week. There's a chance Antonio Gates is just not even on the roster for the entirety of the season. For those wondering, I mean, Hunter Henry is still eligible to return this year. There have been positive reports about his recovery. And so this was a game where if Hunter Henry was active, you'd be all about him. Because the Rams, if anything, they've given up points to the tight end position because they don't give them up anywhere else. Like it's a matter of somewhere points have to come. Jared Goff, he ranks third right now behind Fitzpatrick and Mahomes in yards per attempt. He's got a solid 65% completion percentage. He's been hyper efficient. Now they haven't had to put a game on his shoulders yet. But Brandon Cooks is my start of the week. I love him. In this matchup, where else are you finding value? Gurley's a must start. Would you rather start golf or Rivers in this game?
Mike Wright
Rivers.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I would still go with Rivers, personally.
Jason Moore
Temperature check on Austin eckler. He's averaged 112 yards from scrimmage in the first two weeks as the backup to Melvin Gordon.
Mike Wright
At this point, I think he should be rostered, certainly, especially with, you know, Melvin Gordon missing a practice here or there. This isn't the matchup I would want to play him in, though.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
All right. The Bears take on the Cardinals in Arizona. The Cardinals are five and a half point home underdogs and the fan base is weeping out here. 38 point over under. I do think that the Cardinals can contain Mitch Trubisky in Arizona. This is going to be a low scoring affair. I don't think we're going to see much life out of the Cardinal offense against a very strong Bears defensive front. So where is the fantasy value?
Andy Holloway
I agree that the Cardinals can contain Mitch Trubisky because it doesn't take a lot to contain him. His coaching staff, really, it's like a.
Jason Moore
Plastic bag could do it.
Andy Holloway
But I strongly believe the Bears will dominate this matchup. Jordan Howard is going to eat. He is going to feast like he is. He's stopping at the old country buffet in this match.
Jason Moore
If Adrian Peterson can do it against.
Andy Holloway
The Cardinals, he will eat until he vomits. And that's that. That's where I see the points coming.
Jason Moore
He's vomiting fantasy points.
Andy Holloway
Yes. If you have been. If you have been let down by Jordan Howard thus far for your fantasy teams, which it's you should not have.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I was.
Andy Holloway
No, trust me. The temperature check on Jordan Howard. People are a little disappointed. You're going to be very, very happy.
Jason Moore
After Jordan Howard, Matt Nagy came out, he said that he needed to get more carries to Jordan Howard. Seems like I'll have an opportunity in this game. I don't think anybody expects it to be a barn burner.
Mike Wright
Really. Seems like he did in fact train under Andy Reid has the victory and it's like I should have got the ball to Jordan Howard a lot more. This is very reminiscent of Jamal Charles. David Johnson is someone everyone is concerned with right now. People, we get a lot of start sit questions. Should I bench David Johnson? And I am a firm. No, you do not bench him. Not just because of the name or the talent. There was one telling thing that happened. I was listening to an interview with Sam Bradford which there's nobody, you know, you hear coach talk and coach head coach Steve Wilkes was saying we need to get David Johnson the slot mark. Well, that's great but you know, he's a defensive head coach. He's not the offensive coordinator. He's not setting the formations. But to hear Sam Bradford point blank be asked why was your matchup? Why have you performed so poorly? And his response was when he looked at the film on 1st and 10, he's trying to do too much and he's like, I just got to hit David. I just got to check it down to David, get some points, put us into second and short. He said it like three times about how he just needs to.
Jason Moore
Did he say get some points? Has he got David in his fantasy team?
Mike Wright
He just kept saying he needs to check the ball down to David Johnson and that's exactly right. You need to use him in the passing game now preferably I'd like some downfield, not just check downs. But I think he'll be involved and he'll have a bounce back game this week.
Jason Moore
Now guys, I need to bring up Trey Boo Boo. We were big Trey Boo Boo fans. Yeah, he did score last week, saved the week, only four for 20. Had the touchdown. Some signs of life target wise for Burton. But you know, what are your expectations this week for Trey Boo Boo? I mean the Cardinals thus far through two weeks, they've given up a lot of points to the tight end position. Do we expect Trey Booboo to get it done this week?
Andy Holloway
Jason?
Mike Wright
Yeah, look, there's a lot of concern with most tight ends out there. But you have to stick with Trey Burton right now because when you look at targets, routes, run, depth of route, run, all of these other metrics that you know, and you look at them for all tight ends, you go, you know, Trey Burton is not in the worst situation here. I don't love his quarterback and I, you know, this isn't. Despite the fact that, you know, Arizona's given up points, Jordan Reed got a touchdown. Week one last year. The defense was pretty good against tight ends. So it's one of those situations where I'm reluctantly playing Trey Burton and Alan.
Andy Holloway
Robinson, who he, I mean, he took a nice step this past week, launched himself up to 14 targets, 83 yards, which. So, I mean, 10 for 83. That's a 10 decent fantasy output for Alan Robinson, but he's been a career.
Jason Moore
You know, 14 yard a catch guy so far with Mitch, it's down to 10 a catch. That's the concern. But Lud, you can't argue with the target. 21 targets through two games.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So I'm still comfortable playing Allen Robinson.
Mike Wright
Even if he's not afraid of Patrick Peterson.
Andy Holloway
He's going to see Peterson, but I think the target volume will be there.
Mike Wright
I think you can also start both defenses in this matchup for fantasy Arizona at home against Mitch Trubisky. You can get them off of the waivers and they'll be.
Jason Moore
They'll probably turn him over a couple times.
Mike Wright
Yes, they'll. They'll sack him a couple times, turn the ball over a couple times. I expect this to be a very low scoring game.
Jason Moore
3 nothing. The Cowboys one on one take on the Seahawks up in Seattle and they're only one and a half point favorites. That's crazy at home.
Andy Holloway
It's not crazy.
Jason Moore
It's not. 40, 41 point. 41 and a half point over under Dallas with Dak and Zeke and nothing else right now for fantasy, I mean, are you starting anybody outside those two? Are you even starting Dak? Probably not.
Mike Wright
No, I'm not starting Dak on the road.
Jason Moore
So it's Zeke and no one else.
Andy Holloway
That is, that is accurate.
Jason Moore
Let's say someone forced you by, you know, torture to. To roster another cowboy. It would be who? Or would you just. You just go down, you would just refuse it and then just.
Andy Holloway
I'll take my consequence.
Jason Moore
He'll take your consequences.
Mike Wright
Kill me.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think it'd be. Look, Deontay Thompson looked more involved than anyone last year. Yeah, that's probably who it would be.
Andy Holloway
Honestly, I look the Reason I think that the line is perfectly fine is because the blueprint is there for how to beat the Seattle Seahawks. And there's a mirror match thing happening for me in this. In this particular matchup. Last week, we saw the Dallas Cowboys put a ferocious pass rush onto Eli Manning and the New York Giants and his terrible offensive line. We saw the Chicago Bears do the same exact thing to Seattle. That's why I think the line is not bad. I believe that Russell Wilson is going to be under duress for the vast majority of this game, just like he was this past week. Dallas. Dallas, up front on their defense, has enough talent to get it done.
Jason Moore
I actually don't feel like this game is going to be much different than the Cardinal game. Yeah, the Bear Cardinal game.
Mike Wright
I think Doug Baldwin. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Oh, Doug Baldwin is here. This is a completely different circumstance, but the running backs aren't going to get anything going. This stinks to be talking about this game because I don't want to play anybody.
Mike Wright
Zeke.
Andy Holloway
That's it. That's the only player in this matchup that I really want to Play.
Mike Wright
I am 100% fine playing Russell Wilson. I think it's been overblown what happened in Chicago. He is always a consistent fantasy producer. And if he's got a run that's good for fantasy, he'll get scores. He's at home. I'm fine with Russell.
Andy Holloway
Okay. What about Big Montana? You going back? You going back to Big Monster?
Mike Wright
Oh, pro move, Andy. Got it in.
Andy Holloway
Big Montana. Garbage time. Touchdown. Saved everything last week.
Jason Moore
I believe he's the first, like, rookie tight end with scores. And we're talking about Will Disley.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, Will Disley.
Jason Moore
Big Montana. The Moose is loose. I mean, do you just. Are there Moose flames here? I mean, I'm wearing a pink Moose shirt. Is he a pink Moose?
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
No.
Jason Moore
What is he? What is he? That is the greatest Will Disney question.
Andy Holloway
Will Disley.
Jason Moore
What is he?
Mike Wright
Here's what Will Disley is.
Andy Holloway
That's who he is.
Mike Wright
Will Disley is a placeholder. Fred Dixon. That's what I believe. He's a necessary piece in an offense that needs pieces right now. He'll have a few catches, he'll have yards. Honestly, I believe you can start him over. Some other bad options. If you wanted to say who has a better chance at 50 yards, Trey Burton or Will Disley? It's. I would go Burton, but it's a conversation that is worthy to be had.
Jason Moore
Not one we expected before the year. Now, if you ask, who is Will Disley to Russell Wilson, his quote yesterday. He's a baller.
Andy Holloway
Oh. Shot caller.
Jason Moore
He said he can make a lot of plays.
Andy Holloway
He reminds.
Jason Moore
He reminds me of a young. Says hey. Reminds me of a young Jason Whitten. How he sees the game, runs route, catches the ball every time you throw him the ball. And look, I think he is. He's the next best start on Seattle other than Lockett.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Wilson, Lockett, Disley. I struggle to argue Sunday night football in Detroit. The 02 Lions. Matt Patricia has to face his. Well, his former head coach and Bill Belichick. The Patriots go to Detroit trying to set set them on a 03 path to the NFL.
Andy Holloway
When. When coaches have to come back and face Bill Belichick.
Jason Moore
Doesn't work out.
Andy Holloway
Things generally don't work out for that team.
Jason Moore
I remember. Who am I thinking of coached the jets coach. No, no. I'm thinking of their offensive coordinator right now.
Andy Holloway
Okay. Oh.
Mike Wright
Oh wow.
Jason Moore
McDaniels.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
When he coached Denver.
Jason Moore
Denver. He won that game.
Mike Wright
But it was the pretty big deal. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Here's what I want to talk about in this.
Andy Holloway
By the way, man.
Jason Moore
Jeannie, every Single season since 2013, an 0 and 2 team has made the playoffs. However your chances of making the play. Yeah. One the chances of making the playoffs are 12% when you are at zero. Two. The Lions what are their odds of going to Owen three here.
Mike Wright
Very high.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. 90 percentile range.
Mike Wright
I think that the Patriots with the head coach situation for the Lions even though the Lions are at home, I think the Patriots have to get this win at one on one and they'll do it.
Andy Holloway
So let's. Let's try to work through the Patriots running back situation. They're heavily favored which we. James White, his role is. It's secured. But it also gets elevated when the Patriots are trying to catch up. As we saw against Jacksonville was all James White. I'm not expecting that. I don't think any of us are expecting that. So are you playing James White? Let's start there. PPR with James White is always implied whenever we mention this guy's name. We are talking about ppr.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I think you can start him. He's going to have enough. They don't need to play catch up in this game.
Andy Holloway
What about mustard?
Mike Wright
But it doesn't. Come on, Mike. It doesn't matter.
Jason Moore
I was looking for the rim shot but we don't got the drop.
Mike Wright
He will get enough utilization just in the standard offense in a full PPR league to be a flex play the running back that I think clearly has the highest upside here is Sony Michelle. If they are winning the game, if they are handling their business easily, this is the perfect opportunity to see what they have in their first round pick to try to take up clock to I think near the goal line. See what you have against the Lions in Sony Michelle. So he's the guy in this game I'm going to be watching the closest from the Patriots.
Andy Holloway
All right. Chris Hogan. We are in agreement that we like him to bounce back.
Mike Wright
I love Chris Hogan in this matchup.
Andy Holloway
So what about Philip Dorsett?
Jason Moore
Who's. I don't. I don't love Chris Hogan.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
No, I know, I know. We've. We. I think we talked about this earlier.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's all I was.
Jason Moore
Mike said we agree.
Mike Wright
I was. Sorry.
Jason Moore
You're talking about you and Jason.
Andy Holloway
Yes, that is correct. Andy does not like Chris.
Jason Moore
I just don't like four catches on the season. It freaks me out, man.
Andy Holloway
I. Yeah, I don't blame you that it freaks me out as well.
Jason Moore
Like I'd play Amari Cooper over Chris Hogan.
Andy Holloway
That's a fair point.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I don't mind that.
Mike Wright
But.
Andy Holloway
But Philip Dorset, and this is in the context that Josh Gordon is inactive. He's seen seven targets in both of the. Of the games this season. Hard pass, 7 for 66, 5 for 44.
Jason Moore
Nah.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Mike Wright
No, I completely agree. Hard pass.
Jason Moore
Who gets Darius Slay in this game?
Andy Holloway
Probably Hogan.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Is Slay okay?
Jason Moore
Slay. Okay. Yeah. Look, you're starting Gronk.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
You're locked and loaded on the other side of the ball. Detroit probably playing catch up high over under Kerryon Johnson. Theo Riddick, by the way. Darius Slayer, he's still concussed.
Andy Holloway
He's still dealing with the concussion, so.
Jason Moore
That'Ll make an impact.
Andy Holloway
He's trending out right now.
Jason Moore
Golden Tate, 13 targets in both weeks, 28 on the year.
Andy Holloway
It's been a monster.
Jason Moore
And that's third most in the league. That's kind of guaranteed production. Marvin Jones, Kenny Golladay, I think. I mean, Matt Stanford's probably a good play in this game at home coming back. I mean, he's going to garbage time his way to fantasy victories.
Mike Wright
Absolutely. He'll throw two early picks and then have three late touchdowns and you'll be just fine starting most all of catching options. I think, unfortunately, Theo Riddick is a fine play in ppr. I'd probably. You know, Theo Riddick is pretty much identical to me as James White in this matchup. One will be coming back from a deficit, one will Be creating the deficit. But. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Is this the week?
Mike Wright
No.
Andy Holloway
Jason, call the shot.
Mike Wright
I will call the shot. I don't. I don't believe this is the week now. He's getting more and more utilization. You just look at his carries, his yards, his receptions, his targets. The first two weeks they've increased. I think they'll increase to the point where if you need to flex him. I'm actually flexing him this week in our listener league. I think you can, but I don't expect a huge game from him here. He's just, you know, a running back. I'm hoping he's a back end running back, too.
Jason Moore
If Baker Mayfield is the starter and then Kerryon Johnson becomes the starter, is your life just.
Mike Wright
I have completed.
Jason Moore
We got to move on the Steelers, the Bucks, Monday Night Football. We get to watch Fitzmadrick Fitz Magic on the primetime screen.
Andy Holloway
I'm very excited for this game.
Jason Moore
It's going to be a lot of fun because the Steelers defense is atrocious right now. And look, they might get Hayden back at corner, but that doesn't really matter in the past few years. And the Bucks defense has been trash as well. So this could be a barn burner. 54 point over under. The Bucks are one and a half point dogs at home. Despite the strong start, I think people are expecting Antonio Brown to, you know, get the grease, so to speak. Does that impact your view of juju at all or is he just wheels up for those two?
Mike Wright
Yeah, those two are full force ahead. They're going to have a great game. I mean, there's. I don't think that there's a player on either side of the ball that is a normal consideration for starting that I don't want to start. The only guy that I'm questioning, and I know he's your start of the week, Jesse James, I question I might not start him there, but obviously tight ends are just trash. You're firing up Antonio, you're firing up juju, you're firing up James Conner, you're firing up Ben Roethlisberger on that side of the ball. I'm happy with Fitzpatrick. I don't want anything to do with the running game or if you can even talk about that. I don't think they have one in Tampa.
Andy Holloway
Is this.
Jason Moore
If they don't.
Andy Holloway
If Ronald Jones is right now sitting on your waiver wire.
Jason Moore
Get him.
Andy Holloway
Should you add him?
Mike Wright
This would be the week. Because I think he'll be active this week. If he's. If he's not active after, basically not Having a running game and I guess that could happen. You're two and oh, like what? You know, it's working if it ain't broke. But you know, if you need running back help and your team has a burner spot, then Ronald Jones is worth at least looking to pick up. But I'm.
Jason Moore
He's a great, like Sunday morning ad. And then if nothing happens, if he's inactive or doesn't do anything, you just drop him for your waiver wire.
Mike Wright
If you play in an IR league almost every week, you've got someone that's ruled out. You know, Doug Baldwin will be ruled out. And Sunday morning I'll move him to ir and I always pick up. And this is a tip for everybody, don't waste your time picking up a wide receiver off the waiver wire in that situation because their situation can't drastically change. Pick up a Chase Edmonds, I don't know.
Andy Holloway
I picked up Callaway last week.
Mike Wright
Pick up, pick up Chase Edmonds. Pick up Ronald Jones, pick up somebody who is a backup. That an injury ahead of them could just change everything.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it could save you a lot of fab and give you that steel on Sunday morning. On the other side, Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Andy Holloway
Yep. Good.
Jason Moore
All three wide outs. Evans, Jackson, Godwin.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
And then O.J. howard. How do you feel about him? I mean, Cameron Braid is an afterthought. He's a, he's bottom of the waiver wire right now. So O.J. howard, though, with the explosive play capability and the weaknesses that tied in throughout the fantasy landscape, he's kind of a. Like, he's a player I want to start, but I know the realities of limited total touches. And it just like we've talked about, I hope I capture it. I hope I can capture.
Mike Wright
Yeah, we've talked about a lot of these garbage tight ends today that are just like, I don't really want to start. Do you start Will Disley? You know, what do you do? I'm starting OJ Howard over all of those people because there's murkiness to all the situations. So why not take the most talented human, Right. He was drafted in the first round as one of the best prospects in a decade at the position. Now he's the guy that's kind of taking over the role over Cameron Brait. Yes. Ryan Fitzpatrick is not usually known for throwing to the tight end, but O.J. howard can overcome the lack of targets in that situation. Make a beast touchdown grab, make an 80 yard run down the sideline, you know, so I'll take my Shot over Ebron. If Jack Doyle's out. No.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Mike Wright
If Jack Doyle's in. Yes, I would start him over. Jack Doyle over.
Jason Moore
He's a fringe tight end one right now to me as well. So not a lot of tight ends offer you ADR touchdowns.
Andy Holloway
Nope.
Jason Moore
It's just one of those things that it's kind of nice to have it in your repertoire. All right, let's move on. Let's get into the dose.
Mike Wright
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Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
It's live today.
Jason Moore
It'll get you ready. It's a little. Little nice preparation time.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, absolutely. So today on draft.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
We are going to go with a five quarterback matchup. This is so no longer will we be playing running backs. Who needs them? Wide receivers. Get out my face.
Mike Wright
Tight ends. Even though I rode you to victory last week for the second week in a row.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Jason's on a hot streak and I've got the second pick and he's got first.
Mike Wright
That sucks because there's two clear cut quarterbacks to grab this week and I don't get either of them because I'm on the turn.
Jason Moore
Pat Mahomes. Pat Mahomes is my number one pick this week. Staying in the Flames. We talked yesterday. Look, there's. This is first home game.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
First opportunity. And that game's going to be. The game's going to be interesting and.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to take just reliable golden boy.
Jason Moore
Really?
Andy Holloway
Yep. Tom Brady against Detroit. I think it's. I think he's going to have a very fine day.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that makes sense. Look, I'm just going. I'm at the, you know, the, the third. So I get two picks in a row and I'm going to take huge upside, guys. Aaron Rodgers, Cam Newton, I mean, look, either one can always win you a week and I'll need them against your guys.
Andy Holloway
I'm taking the biggest upside. This is a guy who's been the best fantasy quarterback in the history of starting fantasy football seasons. My beard bearded brethren. I'm taking Ryan Fitzpatrick. Let's go.
Jason Moore
I don't blame me. I'm taking. I got back to back picks. I'm gonna go Big Ben. I think it's a monster week for Big Ben. And then DeSean Watson. My start of the week. Gotta draft him. Here in the Daily Dose if I have that kind of confidence with him against the Giants and I'm gonna take.
Andy Holloway
Drew Brees on the way back. The over under of the Atlanta New Orleans game is ridiculous. I know they hit the under as we highlighted earlier in our matchups, breaking it down, but I'm going for it.
Mike Wright
It makes me really sad because I was. I was really hoping Drew Brees got to me there. I will take my start of the week in that same matchup against him, Matt Ryan and then look, I know that Kirk Cousins ceiling is capped a little bit in Buffalo, but if at the end of the first quarter he has three passing touchdowns, I don't think anyone's going to be surprised. So that's my.
Andy Holloway
I'm getting a little crazy here with this middle page.
Jason Moore
I'm surprised you didn't take your start of the week. You left him to me.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I just. I'm going for it. With Carson Wentz on in his first game back, let's see what he can do.
Jason Moore
I'm going to take Jimmy G, Jimmy Garoppolo in that shootout in Kansas City and then I'm going to do a little baseline protection here with Jared Goff to wrap up my starting five. Mahomes, Roethlisberger, Watson, Garoppolo, Goff.
Andy Holloway
I do not mind that. And right here. Oh, man, this is. This is a really tough call and I'm actually, I'm struggling on who I want to go with because I'm not taking Russell Wilson. I was going to grab Andrew Luck.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't go. Matthew Stafford. He's a guy.
Andy Holloway
I think it was between Luck and Stafford.
Mike Wright
But that being said, I already knew who I was going to take because I knew you don't want Russell. I believe in Russell. I'm going to take him. My team, you know, it's one of those where the matchups aren't the best, but with Cam Newton, Aaron Rodgers, Kirk Cousins, Matt Ryan and Russell Wilson, I am very confident that I will win for the third time in a row. Sure.
Andy Holloway
And there's nothing safe about my team at all. Tom Brady, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Drew Brees, Carson Wentz, Andrew Luck.
Jason Moore
All right, well, this will be fine. It's fine to draft all quarterbacks. You know, we talk them down so much in the draft season. It's fun to draft them and actually have something on the line this week.
Mike Wright
Yeah. So, hey, everybody, good luck this weekend. Win your matchups. Play with us over@draft.com Ballers and Mike.
Jason Moore
Will be live on Everywhere on Sunday Morning.
Andy Holloway
Goodbye.
Mike Wright
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 3 Matchups, Baker Mayfield, In-or-Out
Released on September 21, 2018
Episode Overview
In this engaging episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright delve deep into Week 3's fantasy football matchups. The trio offers expert analysis on player performances, injury impacts, and strategic decisions to help listeners dominate their fantasy leagues. The episode prominently features discussions on Baker Mayfield's potential as the Browns' starting quarterback, in-depth analyses of key matchups, and the ever-popular In-or-Out segment where the hosts decide the fate of various players in their fantasy rosters.
Thursday Night Recap and Baker Mayfield Analysis
The episode kicks off with a comprehensive recap of Thursday night's games, highlighting significant fantasy implications. A central theme is the ongoing debate surrounding Baker Mayfield's role as the Cleveland Browns' starting quarterback.
Baker Mayfield's Potential Impact
Jason Moore compares Baker to a "party buff," suggesting that his presence elevates the entire offense. Andy Holloway echoes this sentiment, emphasizing Baker's influence on players like Jarvis Landry and Antonio Calloway.
"Baker Mayfield represents one of those party buffs. That group buff, you know, where he powers up, he powers up everybody else."
— Jason Moore [02:43]
Tyrod Taylor's Performance and Injury Concerns
The hosts express disappointment with Tyrod Taylor's underwhelming performance, despite a strong defensive showing. Mike Wright predicts a prolonged concussion protocol for Taylor, potentially solidifying Mayfield's starting position.
"Tyrod Taylor is going to have the slowest concussion protocol progression of all time."
— Mike Wright [05:04]
Fantasy Implications for Team Rosters
With Mayfield likely taking over, players like Jarvis Landry receive a boost in value. The hosts discuss how the Browns' offense dynamics will shift, impacting various fantasy positions.
"Jarvis Landry becomes an absolute, you know, if he's not a wide receiver one, then he's one of the best wide receiver twos out there."
— Mike Wright [06:44]
Player Evaluations and Injury Updates
The conversation transitions to evaluating specific players affected by injuries and their fantasy prospects.
Carlos Hyde's Breakout Game
Carlos Hyde surprises many by scoring two touchdowns amidst personal milestones, enhancing his fantasy value.
"Carlos Hyde, it was his birthday yesterday. His wife is in labor. He goes out there and drops two touchdowns."
— Jason Moore [08:13]
Robbie Anderson and LaShawn McCoy Decisions
The hosts debate whether to retain or drop players like Robbie Anderson and LaShawn McCoy based on their performances and team strategies.
"Robbie Anderson has a wall dedicated to Josh McCown. He's cut out every picture. He's pasted it up on the wall. It's a little creepy."
— Jason Moore [08:30]
Bilal Powell vs. Xavier Crowell
Andy Holloway expresses frustration over the Cowboys' running back decisions, leaning towards Powell over Crowell due to reliability concerns.
"Bilal Powell looks like the much better running back, but they're just going to destroy each other's fantasy value until we can get some actual checkdowns."
— Andy Holloway [09:46]
Key Matchups Analysis
The hosts dissect several pivotal matchups, providing insights on player performances and strategic plays for fantasy enthusiasts.
Raiders vs. Dolphins
Focus on Marshawn Lynch
Mike Wright advocates for starting Marshawn Lynch, citing the Dolphins' vulnerability to the run.
"The Dolphins have been weak against the run this year. They're in the bottom 10 of fantasy points given up against running backs."
— Mike Wright [22:30]
Amari Cooper's Inconsistency
Concerns are raised about Amari Cooper's reliability against strong defenses, advising caution when starting him.
"I just don't want to fall into the Cooper trap."
— Mike Wright [23:57]
Bills vs. Vikings
Buffalo Bills' Offensive Struggles
The hosts predict a low-scoring game, recommending minimal fantasy points from Buffalo players.
"There's no way I'm risking Dalvin Cook."
— Mike Wright [14:17]
Packers vs. Redskins
Jimmy Graham Over Other Tight Ends
Emphasizing Jimmy Graham's consistent performance against tough defenses, the hosts suggest favoring him over peers.
"Jimmy Graham is certainly a good play this weekend."
— Jason Moore [36:14]
Chargers vs. Rams
Philip Rivers' Matchup Challenges
Mike Wright expresses hesitation in starting Philip Rivers against a formidable Rams defense, suggesting a cautious approach.
"I think high floor, low ceiling. No low floor, high ceiling."
— Mike Wright [41:14]
Bears vs. Cardinals
Jordan Howard's Explosive Potential
Andy Holloway highlights Jordan Howard's ability to dominate the matchup, positioning him as a top fantasy performer.
"Jordan Howard is going to eat. He is going to feast like he is."
— Andy Holloway [43:38]
Cowboys vs. Seahawks
Zek Elliott as the Primary Play
Given the Seahawks' defensive strengths, the hosts unanimously agree to prioritize Zek Elliott over Dak Prescott for fantasy starts.
"That's it. That's the only player in this matchup that I really want to Play."
— Andy Holloway [50:21]
Patriots vs. Lions
James White's Utilization
James White is recommended despite concerns about limited usage, given his consistent involvement in the Patriots' offense.
"He's going to have enough utilization just in the standard offense in a full PPR league."
— Mike Wright [54:24]
In-Or-Out Segment
In the popular In-or-Out segment, the hosts make decisions on whether to retain or drop specific players based on their recent performances and matchup considerations.
Dalvin Cook vs. Latavius Murray
The debate centers on whether to start Dalvin Cook or Latavius Murray against the Vikings. While some lean towards Cook's reliability, others favor Murray's potential upside.
"I would rather start Latavius Murray right now without knowing what's happening with Cook than I would Chris Ivory in this game."
— Jason Moore [29:00]
Tight Ends Decisions
The hosts discuss the viability of various tight ends, ultimately recommending players like Eric Ebron and O.J. Howard over less reliable options.
"I would start OJ Howard over all of those people because there's murkiness to all the situations."
— Mike Wright [61:58]
Fantasy Forecast Highlights
The Fantasy Forecast segment provides listeners with actionable advice on which players to start based on upcoming matchups and performance trends.
Marvin Jones and Kenny Golladay
Highlighted as consistent receivers against solid defenses, making them favorable starts.
"Marvin Jones, Kenny Golladay, I think."
— Jason Moore [56:37]
Ronald Jones as a Waiver Wire Pickup
Recommended as a strategic acquisition for depth and potential high upside in case of injuries.
"If you need running back help and your team has a burner spot, then Ronald Jones is worth at least looking to pick up."
— Mike Wright [59:54]
Daily Dose (DFS Advice)
In the Daily Dose segment, the hosts provide insights and recommendations for Daily Fantasy Sports (DFS) participants, analyzing quarterback performances and suggesting optimal lineups.
Quarterback Recommendations
Key quarterbacks like Patrick Mahomes and Ryan Fitzpatrick are highlighted for their high upside in specific matchups.
"Patrick Mahomes is my number one pick this week."
— Jason Moore [63:14]
Strategic Drafting Tips
Emphasis on balancing safe picks with high-upside players to maximize DFS potential.
"It's fine to draft them and actually have something on the line this week."
— Jason Moore [66:30]
Notable Quotes
Jason Moore on Baker Mayfield:
"Baker Mayfield is a guy that in a good matchup should be started. He's not someone I'm shying away from because he's a rookie."
— Jason Moore [06:44]
Andy Holloway on Game Strategies:
"They have a good offense and I know you've got a good defense. Hopefully they can overcome your head coach."
— Mike Wright [10:49]
Mike Wright on Eric Ebron:
"I think Eric Ebron is a very strong streaming tight end option."
— Jason Moore [31:04]
Conclusions and Final Thoughts
The Fantasy Footballers hosts wrap up the episode by reinforcing the importance of strategic player choices and staying informed about injury updates. They encourage listeners to utilize their analyses to make informed decisions, ensuring a competitive edge in their fantasy leagues. The episode emphasizes adaptability, suggesting that fantasy managers remain flexible with their rosters to respond to the dynamic nature of the NFL season.
"Good luck this weekend. Win your matchups."
— Mike Wright [66:30]
Final Notes
This episode provides invaluable insights for fantasy football enthusiasts, blending expert analysis with practical advice. Whether it's navigating the uncertainties surrounding Baker Mayfield or making tough In-or-Out decisions, the Fantasy Footballers deliver comprehensive guidance to help listeners optimize their fantasy teams and secure victories each week.