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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from Pristine Auction.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.
Jason Moore
Oh, welcome in.
Andy Holloway
It's football time.
Jason Moore
Hey, welcome to the show. Andy, Mike and Jason, the fantasy footballers. Back with you. It's Friday. We're excited to be here. We've got more Week 3 matchups. Jason is sporting his Lizard King apparel.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
Got the Lizard King shirt in the mail yesterday. It turned out very nice. It is slimming, Jason. It is black.
Mike Wright
Yes. With a red lizard, it's a necessity. It wasn't black.
Jason Moore
I wouldn't wear it even if it was red. Like inversely, it was a red shirt.
Mike Wright
That's correct.
Jason Moore
You would not wear it even though this is the Lizard King?
Mike Wright
That is correct.
Jason Moore
All right. Well, it's Friday. We have Foot Clan Friday on the show today. We got some news, some in or out injury report. We have ballers on a budget today. It's jam packed. You guys watch the game last night?
Andy Holloway
I did and it was, it was better than expected in some ways, like mostly just the first half.
Jason Moore
Well, you have full on Gardner Minshew hype.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Now, did you hear the one, the joke surfacing. Did you hear this one where when Gardner Minshew left for college, he told his dad, you're the man of the house now?
Andy Holloway
Yes, please. We get a whole series of gardener Chuck Norris jokes.
Jason Moore
It's very similar.
Andy Holloway
Oh, that would be fabulous. Look, Gardner, I know his, his final stat line is basically 202, which is not. That's not spectacular for fantasy football.
Jason Moore
And we still a secret garden Mike, is what I'm saying. I still see there's a secret there.
Andy Holloway
It's, it's tough to put that because when you put context of what actually happened in the game, Gardner was outstanding. Like he was. He was a really, really good quarterback. Dede Westbrook dropped an easy touchdown. So you, that's if Dee Dee just catches that one ball. Today is a very, very different day. And I know you can't just give him the stats.
Jason Moore
He got a. He got a free touchdown, though. They muff punt. They got the ball at the seven yard line and he had a little fade away to O'Shaughnessy.
Andy Holloway
Sure.
Jason Moore
But it all evens out.
Andy Holloway
Gardner is absolutely maximizing what he's being asked to do. Unfortunately, his team still has a bit of that curmudgeon. Let's run against nine guys in the box with.
Jason Moore
You have to. Even if for now you can.
Andy Holloway
I'm not saying a band run.
Jason Moore
You have to protect Minshew and let him manage the game by handing the ball over and over again.
Andy Holloway
Sure. I'm not saying abandon the run. I'm just saying be more creative. Like, look, look what's going on with Leonard Fournette and look at what's going on with Todd Gurley. I'm more talking about like last year. Todd Gurley is one of the best running backs in the league. He never runs against a stacked box because the offensive mind of Sean McVeigh figured out, well, if I at least give the illusion that I might throw the ball. You can't put that many guys in the box. That's the frustrating part for Minshew and the Jaguars.
Jason Moore
It's Friday.
Mike Wright
Foot Clan Friday.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
What's up, everybody?
Jason Moore
I wasn't sure if you were playing that game where you try not to talk for a while again. How are you feeling about Leonard Fournette after last night?
Mike Wright
I feel the same as I felt for a long time, which is he's not a very good running back, but for fantasy football it works. He's still now saved by a long 69 yard run, but he also had six receptions and that's something where Tennessee is a good defense. We can't take away the fact that he was playing against a really good defense in poor weather conditions. It wasn't, you know, a game that you anticipated him having a great game. And you can't take away the long breakaway run. In the end, he is what he's always been, a very inefficient runner who's effective for fantasy football. That's all I care about.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I would almost say he's, he's been what he's become, not what he's always been. He has five 100 yard games in his career. They all came in like his first eight starts or something of that nature. And then he just became this plotter. I mean 10 points, 11 points, 12 points, depending on your scoring system, but volume. So you're right. I mean, you can't take the big runaway. And ultimately if you give a guy enough carries, then you're going to have some breakaway runs and some big plays.
Mike Wright
Would you agree that Leonard Fournette is the oldest 24 year old on the planet?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he moves like it.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he's really moved into the Frank Gore stage of his career early. Mike called him Leonard Floor Net yesterday.
Andy Holloway
Indeed.
Jason Moore
On the Sirius XM show. And you saw the floor. I mean, he is a floor play.
Mike Wright
He's the Greg Odin of the NFL.
Andy Holloway
The fact that you can read off his stat line. Okay, how did, how did he do? Well, he had 15 carries, 66 rushing yards. Like, okay, tough defense. Well, hold on. He did have a run of 69 yards. Well, hold, hold on. But you said he had 66 total yards on 15 carries. Like that is. That's spectacularly bad.
Jason Moore
14 carries for negative three yards outside of that run. But he saved it. And it would have been more entertaining to talk about that accomplishment today if he had not had that last, you know, run. But let's talk about some other players in this game. I actually feel like it's pretty bad to disparage anything Jacksonville did. They were creatively. Because it could not have been less creative and more embarrassing in my mind than what we saw from Marcus Mariota and the Tennessee offense. The play calling was atrocious. The creativity on that offense is the basement of football. Last week when Deion Lewis and Derrick Henry, they each had like equal snap count. When Derek Henry was in, he had like 15 carries. When Deion Lewis was in, he had like three.
Mike Wright
If you're a defense, I don't care what they're going to do.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it's like, okay, Deion's out there. We know he's going to either catch a pass or not run the ball. It's just ridiculous play calling for, you know, second and 10. Let's run second and eight. Let's run. It's just run, run, run. And Marcus Mariota has. He has turned into the equivalent of a can of play doh. That you just turn end over in and set there. And that's the value of Marcus Mariota. He does nothing for your team. He just stands there. He takes no chances.
Andy Holloway
To be fair to the Tennessee Titans, the run, run, run game plan, it's not working. To be fair to them, yes, they're one and two.
Mike Wright
Like, I thought you wanted to be fair to Plato because, like, I love Plato. Plato has value.
Andy Holloway
It does.
Mike Wright
And I thought that was pretty rude what Andy said towards Plato.
Jason Moore
Yeah, we'll get a cease and desist from.
Mike Wright
Plato's gonna be like, do not ever compare us to Marcus Mariota. We're way better than that.
Jason Moore
And I'm sorry, Tennessee fans, but you're going to have a quarterback change at some point this year if this is what we're going to see. But speaking of value, we're nine sacks. Sorry, how to say it? Nine sacks.
Andy Holloway
We're three weeks in and we are three very solid games now for DJ Chark. Where. Where are you at temperature wise for? He was 4 for 76. He scored every single week. So, I mean, which really helps put you at the top end of the fantasy players. But 4 for 76 without a touchdown, that's a solid game for what you're looking at as a wide receiver. Three, are you comfortable moving forward now with DJ Chark as a weekly flex player?
Mike Wright
I'm still.
Jason Moore
I'm getting closer that.
Mike Wright
That's where I'm at. I'm not. I'm not on board.
Andy Holloway
Matchup.
Mike Wright
This was a bad matchup and he. But he also got the touch, you.
Jason Moore
Know, three straight weeks with a touchdown.
Mike Wright
Andy brought it up earlier, you know, they, they got gifted the ball on the goal line that.
Andy Holloway
But that had nothing to do with shark. That was O'Shaughnessy.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
No, no. DJ Charx was a perfect pass. He perfect pass in the rain.
Mike Wright
I don't know what my presentation is with him because he's 63433.
Andy Holloway
No, I think I'm in.
Jason Moore
I can tell you. No, I have, I have. I still have hesitation with him. Absolutely. Because they threw for 200 yards total and you know, Marquis Lee's getting back out there. Indeed. He looked better and now Conley went down in this game. So we'll see what happens. Like if you have to pick one to start, we said it yesterday, if you have to start one, you'd start DJ Chark right now. You'd chase the points and the size and like he looks great. It's just a little bit more difficult to trust. You know, a 200 yard passing offense and Gardner Minshew, this team has a defense that he needs to just manage the game. Right. That's the solution to the problem. So. But you know, I know Al Borland had DJ Chark on his bench and probably feeling like, well, you know the.
Andy Holloway
Process like that one's totally process over results. I don't blame people at all for benching Chark in you haven't. You hadn't seen it in three weeks. It's just two great games for him. Bad matchup, bad weather. I don't blame anyone for benching him. But I'm like next week against the Denver Broncos, I'm interested to play Charles.
Mike Wright
The only other thing I think we need to point out, Derek Henry was saved by a touchdown. But the concern with him is that if they are, I mean when they, when they were down and they had to come back, he wasn't on the field. It was all Dion Lewis. The two minute offense is not Derek Henry. So he can and did get game scripted out. He just got saved by a touchdown.
Jason Moore
He still looked good to me though.
Mike Wright
Oh, he did. He absolutely did.
Jason Moore
A lot better than Leonard Fournette.
Andy Holloway
Look a lot better than Fournette. Yes.
Jason Moore
All right, let's get into the news.
Mike Wright
And notes from around the league presented by sleeper.
Jason Moore
Most of the news here is injury related. In or out related. We'll tell you who we think is, who we think is playing this weekend. There was another follow up to the Antonio Brown saga.
Andy Holloway
Hooray.
Jason Moore
It's only relevant in as much as like there's been another request of the NFL to look at the situation to potentially stop Antonio Brown from harassing or intimidating parties involved in this. So we don't have any news as to what the NFL's plan will be, if any, in terms of consequences for Antonio Brown. We're all riding the roller coaster that is ab right now.
Andy Holloway
I'll say the. What's a little bit different about this news story is it is very explicit in the personal conduct policy, preventing players saying, if you cannot harass, you cannot intimidate. So Antonio Brown has been accused of horrific things that nothing has been proven yet. But now they're saying we have proof that Antonio Brown was harassing and intimidating people in a horrific fashion. So if they can prove that, then.
Jason Moore
They'Ll have technical grounds.
Andy Holloway
The NFL has the right to move him to the commissioner's list.
Jason Moore
Yep.
Mike Wright
What's it gonna be, McFly?
Jason Moore
Are you in or out? All right, let's cruise through these. Cam Newton. In or out?
Mike Wright
Out.
Jason Moore
All right, running backs, do you think Marlon Mack will play? Didn't practice Wednesday, Thursday. Today matters a lot. Pay attention to it.
Mike Wright
I do think he is in.
Jason Moore
You think he's going to play?
Mike Wright
I think he's going to play, Mike.
Andy Holloway
I lean out, but you're right. If he practices today, then he's in.
Jason Moore
Josh Jacobs limited on Thursday in practice. Been sick, lost 10 pounds. I heard this morning he had. He needed four IV bags during the game last week.
Andy Holloway
Goodness.
Jason Moore
So he's dealing with a sickness. But I think he plays.
Andy Holloway
I think he plays. I am nervous to play him, though.
Jason Moore
Damian Williams, Lashawn McCoy. This is big news. Damian Williams did not practice, limping considerably. I don't expect Damian Williams to play. He's an out for me. Shady, I think will be in, but limited. What do you guys think?
Mike Wright
Same.
Jason Moore
All right. Devin Singletary, hamstring Jamal Williams. A new ankle injury yesterday popped up on the injury report.
Andy Holloway
It was. He was only limited, so I still expect him to play. But this, this is good, good news. If you have Aaron Jones on your fantasy team. And the. And lafleur came out and was saying, well, I want to even up the carry total. He may not have the option to even it up this week.
Jason Moore
I sent trade offers out for Aaron Jones this morning. Wide receivers, they were rejected. Wide receivers, Keenan Allen.
Andy Holloway
He'll play.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
Ty Hilton.
Andy Holloway
He'll play.
Mike Wright
He's in.
Jason Moore
Alshon, Jeffrey and desean Jackson.
Mike Wright
I do.
Andy Holloway
Jax is already out. Yeah.
Jason Moore
Djax has been ruled out.
Mike Wright
Yes. Djax out. Alshon, I think, is out as well.
Jason Moore
Tyrell Williams with the hip injury.
Andy Holloway
He'll play.
Jason Moore
Cortland Sutton, Popped up with a rib injury, missed Thursday practice.
Mike Wright
That's.
Jason Moore
Who cares? Don't play.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's rude.
Mike Wright
I don't think it's a good matchup against Green Bay, so. Sure.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he didn't do much last week. Albert Wilson. Doubtful.
Andy Holloway
Out.
Jason Moore
Rashad Higgins.
Andy Holloway
Who cares?
Mike Wright
Who cares?
Jason Moore
Tight ends, Jordan Reed. He is still in the concussion protocol. He's going to be out. Yeah, he may be out.
Andy Holloway
Well, that was the concern where he has so many, like, documented concussions, like, and how many concussions has he had that are undocumented and that you. We know that. We know that. It compiles. Just stop and. Yeah, I mean, the guy wants to go.
Jason Moore
For your own sake. I mean, we love seeing him healthy on the field, playing. Well, those things have never happened, though, in the last several years. So Dallas Goddard. I don't think he's going to play.
Mike Wright
No, didn't practice Thursday.
Jason Moore
Jimmy Graham, Trey Burton.
Andy Holloway
I think that Graham will play and Burton will play as well.
Jason Moore
Jimmy Graham and running. You don't really need him to do that at this point. Just jump.
Andy Holloway
Just go be, man.
Jason Moore
Just go be.
Mike Wright
Be free.
Andy Holloway
Jimmy Graham. Just stand there.
Jason Moore
That reminds me of a review we got on our Spitballers podcast where it said, okay, I love. I love all three of you guys. I love Andy. Dadsplaining to the other two. I love Jason, you know, making jokes about food. And I love Mike. Just be in there. Just be in there. Just be Mike.
Andy Holloway
There has never been a better explanation of my role for these podcasts is just being here.
Jason Moore
Just be all right.
Andy Holloway
I'm the Gardner Minshew of this podcast.
Jason Moore
Everything is everything. I'm just here.
Andy Holloway
Keep it beautiful.
Jason Moore
Keep it all right. Foot clang. Game day alerts@jointhefoot.com on Sunday morning. Judge, do those come out about what, an hour before game time? Just after that?
Mike Wright
Yes, sir.
Jason Moore
And then Sunday Live, one hour before kickoff. Make sure you subscribe over at YouTube. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. We're going to do some water bet videos today. We'll put those up. The shows are up there. And then Mike is live on Sunday morning with everything you need right before the games start. This Sunday news and notes is always brought to you by the sleeper app. Make sure you check it out, download it, get all the latest fantasy football breaking news. Now we're going to get into the fantasy forecast. We've got a bunch of matchups to get through today. I'm very excited for week three. I want to see what some of these trends, whether they. Whether they're real, Mike. Whether it's, you know, if Tinkerbell flies into your room one night, you could.
Andy Holloway
That's a fluke. It didn't matter.
Jason Moore
It could be a fluke. Yeah.
Mike Wright
That's probably a dream.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Two. Two times. Well, maybe, but three times, that's the DJ chart category. You start to believe.
Andy Holloway
Well, it's not just the Tinkerbell rule, which we have just now stated. It's also the NBA Jam rule of which I live my life.
Mike Wright
He's on fire.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
Fantasy forecast.
Jason Moore
Yesterday on the Fantasy footballers podcast, we covered the Broncos, packers, the Falcons, Colts, the Ravens. Chiefs. Oh, I'm so excited for that.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
The Bengals, Bills, Jets, Patriots, Lions, Eagles. We had a defensive coordinator yesterday say they believe, you know, Mahomes, Lamar. It's the next great Brady Manning rivalry and I hope that's true.
Andy Holloway
Wow.
Jason Moore
I hope we get.
Andy Holloway
That's veer like I'm in on Lamar Jackson.
Jason Moore
Right.
Andy Holloway
But that's real fast to put that type of a title onto a player.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Mahomes is fine. He's the mvp. He's been doing it. Lamar, though, I think it's just an exciting thought process because we've talked about, you know, some of these players, Favre and Manning, they leave the NFL and you want to see that next group that are going to meet in the playoffs over and over again. I think that's the comp, really. It's like a couple of, you know, AFC rivals that could meet in championship games for years.
Andy Holloway
Supposed to be Winston and Mariota and.
Jason Moore
Brady's like, no, I'll just be. I'll be the Brady of this comp again for another generation.
Mike Wright
Right. It'll be. It'll be Mahomes and Brady. That's. That's probably the next 10 years.
Jason Moore
10, 20 years. All right, Raiders, Vikings. This game's in Minnesota, 43 and a half point over under. Vikings are heavy favorites. This line has jumped Vikings minus nine. Maybe on the basis of Josh Jacobs and potentially the injury there or just.
Andy Holloway
Remembering that Carr is still the quarterback.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you know, we want to take it on the chin if we get something wrong. Last week we were very optimistic about Derek Carr, all of us having a solid game against a bad chief secondary. Derek Carr found a way to look real ugly in that game. Red zone interception that, you know, on an end zone target to Tyrell, that really hurt his fantasy numbers. So that was a swing and a miss. And Derek Carr, thank you for that. In this game, the implied point total for The Vikings is 26. The Raiders is 17. What do you do with Carr and Cousins in this game? Are either of them streamable options this week?
Andy Holloway
I think that Kirk Cousins is streamable. I prefer other options. I mean, like Josh Allen once again, was. Was by far the best streaming option. Hopefully you're not in a Scenario where it's Friday or Saturday and you're listening to this podcast and you have to find a guy, but I think that Kirk Cousins is at least playable.
Jason Moore
All right. We talked about Josh Jacobs. He posted on Instagram that he's been sick, lost ten pounds. Look, if you're throwing up and you're, you know, professional athlete and you're losing fluids, that's not outlandish. But, Mike, you said you have some concern. He has the highest elusive rating for any starting running back right now. He's looked great.
Andy Holloway
He is a great player, but he's sick. He has a groin injury. This is a tough matchup to start. And then we're still not sure with the sample size because maybe it was the groin problem for Jacobs. But when the Raiders fell behind, they pulled Jacobs off the field and they went to Rashard, which is very troubling for his fantasy value moving forward.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think that was a product of being way behind later in the game and him having four ID bags on the sideline.
Andy Holloway
We don't know for sure. Like, was it completely that or was it this? This will be the game plan.
Jason Moore
I doubt I would pull him from my lineup.
Mike Wright
I believe. I believe that it was more. They were way down. It was. It was a game that they knew they weren't going to win. He was having four IVs on the. I'm on that side. That being said, he's still struggling with illness right now and a bad matchup. So if something goes wrong and they're down just as much as Vegas sees, you know, them losing by, well, more than a touchdown, this is where the same thing could happen. So I share Mike's concerns here. Minnesota Vikings, great defense, top 10 against the running back last season. This is a. This is a matchup where you can start him. Obviously, Josh Jacobs is a quality fantasy option.
Jason Moore
Can I give you an option then here, like some start sits, because that's what's going to help people. We have him ranked right on the edge of RB2 zone, like our consensus ranking on the week's 23. But right now, as it stands, would you play Matt Breida?
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Over Josh Jacobs?
Mike Wright
I've got. I mean, it's very, very close. Right now. I've got Matt Breida one spot ahead of Jacobs.
Jason Moore
What about Joe Mixon in Buffalo over Josh Jacobs?
Andy Holloway
Ooh, that's a good one.
Jason Moore
I think that's really tight.
Mike Wright
It's a very, very similar comp. You've got a struggling player right now for different reasons, against A bad matchup. I would lean Jacobs.
Jason Moore
Okay. James White or Josh Jacobs in a full ppr.
Mike Wright
Maybe White. Otherwise, Jacobs.
Jason Moore
All right. Dalvin cook. He's the RB3 on the week for us. He's looked absolutely. He looks dynamic and a key cog in the offense for the remainder of the year, assuming he can stay healthy. Tyrell Williams, Adam Thielen, Stefan Diggs. You know, if Diggs doesn't perform well in this game, you know, we brought up this question on our Serious show yesterday. Who's most under pressure to perform? And Stefan Diggs is one of the players in that category.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
So will you panic if he doesn't? If he has three or fewer receptions, is it full panic for Stefan Diggs?
Andy Holloway
Three. Yeah, I think that's a good line. Yeah. It depends on the yardage output. I mean, he has been. He's been getting deep targets, which, you know, last year we saw really, really shallow targets for Stefan Diggs. He was a PPR volume type of guy who could also put up touchdowns. So if he rolls away with three for 70 plus, then I'm not going to panic. But if it's. If it's down to three receptions and it's back to old checkdowns for Stefan Diggs, then I would panic.
Jason Moore
All right. And then, Tyrell, you'd put him out there.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Not a great matchup, but I'll play him.
Mike Wright
Not a great matchup. And he's dealing with a hip pointer, so it's. It's worrisome. But in a PPR league, he's really the only. Him and the Walrus are the only targets.
Jason Moore
You putting Walrus in there?
Mike Wright
Yes.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yes.
Jason Moore
The Raiders have allowed the most plays over 20 yards, so we'll see if Stefan Diggs can get loose deep in this one. This is not going to be a very exciting game. Oakland's 30th in the league in pace of play, Minnesota's 25th. Both teams want to do the same type of thing, and I'm not super excited about the output. Dolphins at 0 2, take on the Cowboys at 2. And, oh, the implied point total in this one has the Cowboys with 34.3 points, the Dolphins with 13. This was news that we could have mentioned earlier, but Josh Rosen is starting.
Andy Holloway
But we chose.
Jason Moore
But we chose not to. I mean, what. Yeah, it's like a tree falling in a forest. Mike, if news, right, cannot help or hurt you in any way, shape or.
Andy Holloway
Form, is it really news?
Jason Moore
Is it really news? Josh Rosen, you couldn't have fathomed A situation worse than what he had in Arizona last year. 3 and 13. No offensive line, no offensive weapons, no offensive coach.
Mike Wright
They said it couldn't be done.
Jason Moore
How do you feel if you're Josh. Like, if Josh Rosen. If he just started complaining openly, I'd be like, yeah, that's fair.
Andy Holloway
You, you look and you ask the universe, what have I done to be put in this position? It sucks. So no, like, no one, no one at. No quarterbacks on the. You give me Peyton Manning, you give me Tom Brady, I don't care. You put him on this Miami Dolphins team, they are not going to be able to have success.
Jason Moore
I heard one of those discussions on Sirius yesterday with regard to, like, okay, if Joe Montana is drafted by the Arizona Cardinals back in, you know, the 80s, you know, cardinals were. They're not good now, but they've had a good run.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Jason Moore
New stadium. But they were the laughingstock of the league for 20 years. And, you know, you put yourself in that bad situation, something different happens. Patrick Mahomes, 100%. Patrick Mahomes is drafted by a different team. Is he the MVP of football? Probably not.
Andy Holloway
No. If Mahomes, like if the Bears take.
Jason Moore
If he's drafted by Detroit, the Detroit Lions, is he the MVP of football.
Mike Wright
When they want to run the ball and yeah. Without an offensive mind like Andy Reid. No, it takes. Football is a team sport and that team very much includes the head coach, not just the players.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. People get upset about the luck factor that is in fantasy football. That's undeniable. There is a luck factor for these players as well.
Mike Wright
Well, so you're not playing any Dolphin. You're not playing Caleb Bellage or Drake. I would maybe roster Preston Williams and hope he continues to be the number one target, or at least the number one.
Jason Moore
Did he catch zero of seven targets?
Mike Wright
That was Devonte. Parker.
Jason Moore
Parker. Oh, okay.
Mike Wright
I was going to say maybe he's not the number one target, but he's the number one target that can catch a football on the team. But on the Cowboys side, the Cowboys are Vegas's highest projected implied team total. They are saying they're going to score the most points this week according to the line. I don't know who you don't start. I mean, I think you can even put a flex play in of Randall Cobb or Devin Smith and just hope, okay, they get a touchdown, too. The real interesting question here, because obviously you're playing Zeke, you're playing Dak, you're playing Cooper. What about Jason Whitten?
Jason Moore
Nope. He's had he's got 30, 27 yards receiving, 35 yards receiving. You know, I'd rather play Ebron. I'd rather play.
Mike Wright
So he's like, you'd rather play Ebron than Whitten?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he's in the exact same category.
Jason Moore
Category, but a little bit more, you know, athleticism and upside on that front. You know, Eric Ebron can make a bigger play than Jason Whitten can and it's just been touchdown dependency for both. So I. If you want to play him in that low category. But like this morning on the waiver wire, I need a tight end for next week. I've got George Kittle on by the buys, start next week. I looking at Whitten and Ebron and I signed Ebron so well.
Mike Wright
And that makes sense in general. The reason I was surprised is because of the matchup, the implied total. I mean, if, if the, you know, if the Cowboys come out and do score 35 points, I think that that just says Jason Whitten has a good chance of getting one of those touchdowns.
Andy Holloway
Sure.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And Blake Jarwin's making the more downfield tight end plays for the team right now. But I didn't want to linger on this game too much because you're starting your Cowboys, you're sitting your Dolphins. Last week the Patriots had more interception return yards than Miami had total yards. So go Dallas. Defense Giants 02 take on the Buccaneers at 1 and 1. The Buccaneers are 6 1/2 point home favorites in this one. I do think Jameis Winston is a streamable option in this game. I have Mike Evans and O.J. howard as starts of the week, so I am in for pain I guess, if things go wrong. Just a glutton for punishment with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. But they did win the game last week. He is learning a new offense with Bruce Arians. He was much better during that game and I think he's a streamable option. God, when you're playing, what are you doing with the running backs in Tampa, Jason?
Andy Holloway
Mike, it's unpredictable at this point because we've seen, you know, very different things week one and week two. If you are forced to though, I mean, Peyton Barber looks like he will be the guy moving forward, but it's like if this game comes out and now Ronald Jones gets 12 carries and Peyton Barber sees eight, that's not going to surprise me.
Jason Moore
So I had traded Peyton Barber away in our league of record and had Ronald Jones on my bench. I just cut him because at that point, like if you're not, you don't know who's going to be. He got picked up for $4. A fab Ronald Jones for the mystery. The mystery that is the backfield.
Andy Holloway
I don't blame people for still stashing him.
Jason Moore
But Saquon, you're going to play him. Daniel Jones makes his debut this week. You got a bunch of debuts, right? You have a ton of them. Mason, Rudolph and now Daniel Jones. And trying to figure out which of these young quarterbacks has the chance to be productive.
Mike Wright
Teddy Bridgewater with his first start of the season as well.
Jason Moore
Can we call it a half start since they said they're going to use two quarterbacks. Does he get a sure. Maybe half start?
Mike Wright
Maybe. Taysom Hill, with his first start of the season.
Jason Moore
Evan Ingram did not have the week we hoped last week because it seemed like the ceiling was there with Sterling shepherd missing the game. You know, he's fine. He was fine. You're playing him, though.
Andy Holloway
Yep. Yes, 100%.
Mike Wright
So here's the deal. With the receiving options, not including Saquon on the Giants side, someone is going to be relevant here, but we don't know Daniel Jones's tendencies. We don't know where it's going to go. This could be a bad game for Evan Ingram if he's not targeting the tight end. But because of the tight end landscape, you absolutely have to start Evan Ingram. You don't just have better options out there. So I take a wait and see approach on the wide receivers and then you're basically just starting. Saquon and Evan Ingram from the Giants, Panthers, Cardinals.
Jason Moore
This game's in Arizona. Kyler Murray, Cardinals are two and a half point home favorites. Kyle Allen, another young quarterback likely to get a start tomorrow.
Mike Wright
So he's coming home.
Jason Moore
Kyler Murray through two weeks, leads the league with 899 air yards. He only has 17 rushing yards. They asked him about that disparity, you know, not running the ball yet.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, Carleton, what's up with that?
Jason Moore
And I think fantasy owners want to know that too. And he kind of, kind of just said, like, it just hasn't happened. Like it's not intentional. You know, the defense has put a lot of pressure on him in the pocket. There hasn't been clearly designed runs for him, really. I think he started the game last week with like, you know, a scramble for 10 yards and then it just didn't happen. So I think that's part of his game that he wants to, I would say, improve, you know, use the dual threat ability. We've seen quarterbacks. It just keeps the Defense on. But thus far he's throwing the ball a ton, which makes Larry Fitzgerald and Christian Kirk at home.
Andy Holloway
Must starts.
Jason Moore
Must starts, right?
Mike Wright
Yes, 100%. I mean, Larry Fitzgerald is my start of the week. Christian Kirk is just as good a start as Larry Fitzgerald. I think this is a. Should be a good offensive output for the Arizona Cardinals here. A lot of question marks with the Panthers. I mean, they could be improved with Kyle Allen just based on the version of Cam that we saw last week, which was very, very difficult. But it again, very similar to not knowing the tendencies of Daniel Jones. You're taking, you know, if you want to throw DJ Moore out there or Curtis Samuel out there, I think you can. Arizona's. I agree Arizona is a very beatable defense, but it's for a gambling man. This is. Those are things where you're just, you're getting lucky. I mean, if you put Curtis Samuel out there, you're saying he's a great route runner. He's got blazing open, he's got blazing speed. I'm banking on the talent to win against a bad matchup and that's fair. But if it ends up with DJ Moore gets 10 targets and Curtis Samuel two. Okay.
Jason Moore
I'm trying to find another option than banking on an on the road Kyle Allen who will be under constant pressure from, you know, this defense, this Chandler Jones, you know, Terrell Suggs. I don't love having that dependent. It's the same reason that I'd be hesitant about James Washington in week one with Mason Rudolph. Could it happen? Yes. How could they have a big game? Yes.
Mike Wright
How excited is Kyler Murray going to be to try to beat Kyle Allen?
Andy Holloway
These guys were former Kyle Dominic, these.
Mike Wright
Guys were former teammates back in college and Kyle Allen beat out Kyler Murray. He's the reason that Kyler Murray ended up going changing schools. And now the last laugh is going to be Kyler's. It's going to be exciting.
Jason Moore
Probably will be. Now, Mike, you have Greg Olson as your start of the week in spite of Kyle Allen getting the start. The matchup is overwhelming the rookie nature of Kyle Allen, who had a good week 17 last year, right?
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And it's not just the matchup is incredible, but Greg Olson has that. We've had two solid weeks from him. There was really high volume from Cam last week as they were trying to come back, but still Cam Newton completed under 50% of his passes. Greg Olson was still able to have a solid game. So I feel interested in Greg Olson this week. Yeah.
Jason Moore
And I don't blame you because the options that tight end, you just have to go with production. But I have some fears there with Greg Olson because of the rapport he has with Cam is unique. Kind of the go to safety valve. They have a mind meld and Olson's had been banged up this year already. So I have a little bit of concern. But Arizona is going to do their best to assuage that concern. These two teams ranked first and second in the league in pace of play, by the way. Arizona, yes. Arizona on purpose. Carolina maybe less on purpose, coming from behind and you know, the Panthers could slip to oh and three here and you're looking at this season going, you know, where, where are they headed, you know, Steelers, Owen two taking on the two and oh. 49ers. The 49ers are six and a half point home favorites, 44 point over under. What are we expecting from Mason Rudolph in terms of being able to provide value to James Conner and juju Smith Schuster?
Mike Wright
Yeah, I mean I think they're, they're not going to hold him back. I believe they'll play with the same game plan they would have played with with Big Ben. It's just a matter of how good is Mason Rudolph. I think he looked pretty good last week. I actually liked him. I gave him a first round grade coming out of college. I thought he was very good. And now he, you know, he's got the, you know, you talk about the rapport, the mind meld that is between Greg Olson and Cam Newton. You've seen that for years with Mason Rudolph and James Washington. From college to preseason games in the NFL. You know, I think we could be surprised pleasantly by Mason Rudolph.
Jason Moore
Do you guys hear the press conference with Mike Tom and talking about wide receiver snaps? James Washington?
Andy Holloway
No.
Jason Moore
He basically his quote I think was something like, it's cool that like Mason Rudolph and James Washington have that built in and that they've seen it a little bit. They asked him are the snaps going to change at the wide receiver position? And he basically said yeah. He said, yeah, they are. We're just figuring out what that distribution of labor will be. But he basically said everything a coach can say to say, you know, we're going to, we're going to see if we can take advantage of that rapport. So you talk about a sneaky deep league start. If you've got injury problems, maybe you're. We have a team. I don't remember which one it is. We have some team with D Jacks and El Sean Jeffrey on it.
Andy Holloway
That's Our Scotty Fishbowl team.
Jason Moore
And yeah, and so that's a deeper league. You know, if you're in a league like that and you need to take a shot, I think I'm not opposed to it, like especially with juju being more the focus of the defense and the secondary.
Andy Holloway
James Washington is an incredible value player. If you're playing some fanduel this weekend, his price opens things up a lot for what you're able to do and for a redraft league, it's even if you got like a five bench, a six bench. I think James Washington is a great stash. I don't know that I'm going to. I'm willing to put him into my lineup immediately. But similar to like, like Terry McLaurin. Week one or before week one, it was okay. There's now there's a huge opportunity in front of him. Washington now has a huge opportunity in front of him. So I think you should stash him and see what happens.
Mike Wright
Really ironic because you're talking about McLaurin's got this huge opportunity and Washington has this huge opportunity. I'm thinking you're talking about the Redskins. But you went, you went back to James.
Andy Holloway
I did.
Mike Wright
McClure plays for Washington.
Jason Moore
Well, if you want to put all the pieces together, the Steelers defense this year, 27th in fantasy. Points given up to the quarterback, 25th to the running back, 28 to the wide receiver. Minka Fitzpatrick can't fix all of that. He will help. And one of the things that you should pay attention to is they've been very vulnerable to slot receivers thus far. But Minka is going to help lock down that problem. So I wouldn't expect to see the same production against them over the course of the year. But all that being said, Mason Rudolph likely to be playing from behind if he's got a rapport with Washington. Even if Washington's a garbage time option for him. Those points count the same if you're the garbage man. Whether you are. Oh, we haven't played that in a while. Maybe Mason Rudolph can be that. All right, start set on the San Francisco side. Jimmy G. Are you willing to stream him?
Mike Wright
Willing?
Andy Holloway
Willing to, yes.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Especially if you're in a two quarterback league. I think he's a good secondary option.
Jason Moore
Matt Burrida, I've got him as a alternative start of the week. By the way, we have update, updated news. Marlon Mack is practicing today.
Andy Holloway
Then he's going to play.
Jason Moore
He's in so optimistic that he's in there. But Matt Burrito, a great Start as well.
Mike Wright
I think Raheem Mostert is a great start as well. I don't. You know, right now we've got Colonel we've got yes, the Colonel mustard. We've got Breida at running around running back 20. Most are around running back 30. I don't know if the gap is really that big between those two and most are just looked so, so good last week.
Jason Moore
Start them both. Yeah, yeah. I mean they both. Matt Breida had 121 yards on 10 carries. So both guys. The neat thing was Mostert had so much productivity in the passing game that I don't see a gap really either. So, Jason, would you like to make Raheem Moser your alternative start of the week? He is my alternative start along with so Breeda.
Mike Wright
Sure.
Andy Holloway
What do you make anything of? My name is Jeff Wilson.
Mike Wright
My name is Jeff.
Andy Holloway
Getting the touchdowns last week and then Kyle Shanahan was asked about it and he didn't come out and say that Jeff Wilson is the goal line running.
Mike Wright
Back, but kind of did.
Andy Holloway
But he kind of said it.
Mike Wright
Mike, would you like to make Jeff Wilson your alternative start of the week?
Andy Holloway
Not.
Jason Moore
I don't recommend.
Andy Holloway
Not preferred.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think he's the guy that.
Andy Holloway
You know, I'm just saying does he.
Mike Wright
Vulture some of the upside of Moster and Breed? It could happen.
Jason Moore
Well, you know, Mostert and Breeder are going to go out there and say, hey, I'm going to score from 20 yards out. I don't need to mess.
Mike Wright
I mean, look, last week Jeff Wilson had two touchdowns and it, it didn't affect most. I mean it, you could say it did affect. But most certain breeders still had great.
Jason Moore
Vance McDonald, George Kittle. You're playing them both.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Mike Wright
Yes. Vance is my start of the week this week.
Jason Moore
Marquis Goodwin, Debo Samuel. Pick one.
Andy Holloway
Debo.
Mike Wright
Debo.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
These are two teams going in different directions, you know.
Mike Wright
Oh, and Dante Pettis. The Texans and Chargers are the next matchup to talk about. Let's get into that one.
Jason Moore
Oh, is that. That's your.
Mike Wright
Yes. That was a pro transition right there.
Jason Moore
That was an insulting transition. The Texans Chargers both one and one games in Los Angeles Chargers three and a half point home favorites. They've looked all right. Philip Rivers in this matchup. I like it. Texans giving up 23.1 fantasy points per game to Sean Watson. You always play him. So you know, if you're in a pickle, I don't mind. Streaming Philip Rivers at home against the Texans defense. That gives it up. Carlos Hyde. Mike, you have him as your start of the week?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I tried to go a little bit deeper, but I do believe that volume will be there once again for Carlos.
Jason Moore
What about Duke Johnson? Can people flex Duke Johnson in this matchup? I know my opponent this week is choosing to do so.
Mike Wright
I think your opponent is dumb. No, I will say this. The Chargers, if they're beat, you know, it's by the running back position. So there is that.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they're giving up 25.3 fantasy points per game to the running back position.
Mike Wright
Jason, I, I just don't believe in Duke Johnson as a fantasy option. I've been saying it since he was traded there. He's a pass catching specialist playing for a team that does not really throw the ball to the running back. It's just a bad fit. That's how I see it. I mean, Carlos Hyde has come in and been the lead guy. So. Yeah, I mean, maybe you can. I mean, Duke Johnson is a talented player. I don't, I'm not throwing shade on Duke. I just don't like his fantasy outlook for.
Jason Moore
I would actually say you are throwing shade on Duke.
Mike Wright
I'm throwing shade on Duke's fantasy production, not on his talent as a running.
Jason Moore
Or him as a person. Yeah. Austin Eckler must start Hopkins Allen. You got to start him. They're tied for the league lead and target share 36%. When you have Keenan Allen running up the field for you, when you have DeAndre Hopkins, you throw them the football. That's what you do.
Andy Holloway
And what's spectacular for Keenan Allen this year is he's getting used downfield. That hasn't always been what he has excelled at. I mean, we saw him break out his rookie campaign where he was this deep field threat. Then they brought him in and he would turn into this PPR machine. His career has kind of been all over the place, but he's leading the league in air yards. He, he. When Melvin Gordon is off the field, Keenan Allen gets a huge bump up and we're seeing that happen.
Jason Moore
Mike Williams, I was impressed with this performance last week when he was probably not going to play. Looked pretty good. Will Fuller, right now, that big play hasn't happened. Mike Williams or Will Fuller, which would you rather start? I'm on the Williams side.
Mike Wright
I believe. I'm on the Williams side as well. Will Fuller's had some air yards. It hasn't connected. Could certainly make a play, but Mike Williams has looked great.
Andy Holloway
I lean Mike Williams as well.
Jason Moore
Do you believe Austin Eckler will Remain the number one running back in fantasy after three weeks.
Andy Holloway
Overall, probably not number one, but he's, he is absolutely balling out.
Jason Moore
I think he will.
Andy Holloway
His opportunity is so incredible, not just running the ball but through the air as well.
Mike Wright
It's with Jade.
Andy Holloway
Austin Eckler is winning. He's winning fantasy.
Mike Wright
I love it. I love it. I've got. We all have him in a lot of different spots and he is, you know, Jadavian Clowney gone. Houston doesn't look like the same. Tough to run on team. I think Austin Eckler, you know, I would take the field over him being the number one guy but he's going to be.
Jason Moore
Well, he's the number one through, through two weeks. So I was saying is he going to be the number one through three? Texans giving up a league worse. 3.61 rushing yards before contact.
Mike Wright
Nice.
Jason Moore
You know when you see in your head the plays of Jadavian Clowney meeting you in the backfield, those days are clearly not happening right now for the Texans.
Mike Wright
So does that mean that Justin Jackson is a flex worthy start?
Jason Moore
I would play someone like, you know, I don't get him ahead of them. I think, I don't know if you.
Mike Wright
You know, you're talking the 3.61 rush yards before contact every place Jackson gets going.
Jason Moore
He's tough but if you only get.
Andy Holloway
Six plays, that's not getting the opportunity.
Jason Moore
Saints one on one taking on the Seahawks at two and oh. Seahawks are four point home favorites. It's a 44 and a half point over under might be some light rain in this game.
Andy Holloway
Seahawks, is that a blanket statement?
Mike Wright
It's Seattle. So we all. Yeah, yeah.
Jason Moore
Just always.
Mike Wright
Just always.
Jason Moore
There's probably built in the Saints have to figure things out with Teddy Bridgewater and Taysom Hill. We talked with Adam Lefkoe yesterday on our serious show and he talked about the fact that somebody like Sean Payton, you know, prideful about his in a good way, you know, prideful about confident in his play calling abilities. You know, coming out in the first half with some scripted plays designed to take advantage of a very weak Seahawks secondary thus far this year. Do you, do you see a world where we can be hopeful for the Saints offense in a way you didn't see earlier this week?
Andy Holloway
But do you mean comparable to a.
Jason Moore
Drew Brees maybe comparable to the emotional reaction we all had knowing Brees was having surgery and going to be out a while? Is there a.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
Brighter.
Mike Wright
It could be better than we think is exactly what happened with the Colts. You lose Andrew Luck and you think the world is over, but Frank Reich is a great offensive mind. He has made it. You know, maybe Ty Hilton is better so far this year with Andrew Luck, but he's been okay. He's been fine. Jacoby Brissette's been fine. Marlon Mack has been fine. And I think you're going to see some of that here because Sean Payton is another one of the best coaches, one of the best offensive minds. He's going to find a way to utilize Alvin Camara and Michael Thomas. So, yeah, I think the visceral reaction of losing Drew Brees was probably too much. And now credit needs to go to Sean Payton, you know, and I think he gets the job done for those guys.
Jason Moore
All right. On the other side of the football, we have the Seahawks. Chris Carson last week had one fumble credited to him. Debatable whether the second was his fault. Pete Carroll at least publicly said it wasn't. Pete Carroll also made the decision. I don't know if you saw the end of this game. They needed a big fourth and one. Now post second exchange fumble. They actually gave Rashad Penny some run in lieu of Carson, almost the punishment style. This next drive. Take a. Take a. Take a seat. Think about what you've done, Chris. Now they got to a fourth and one situation to win the ball game. They're on the field. They're about to hand the ball to Rashad Penny. They call a timeout, they change personnel groupings, they bring Chris Carson back in. Carson picks up the first down. I believe that from an efficiency standpoint, we've seen such a disparity between the two. The way that Pete Carroll talks about it now, if he fumbles again, if he makes a mistake now, he owned it. But if he makes further mistakes, they're going to take the ball out of his hands. That's inevitable. But last year, through the whole season, he had three fumbles. So this is not a prototypical thing for Chris Carson. How do you feel about Carson and Penny in this matchup at home? You know, where are you? Where are you with them?
Andy Holloway
I'm playing Chris Carson as a running back. One, the volume just cannot be denied. It can be denied when he gets kicked off the field, but when he's on the field, he gets so much volume on the ground and through the air that I'm still. I'm moving past week two. I'm just writing it off and saying Carson will be fine.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm expecting somewhat of what you saw from Leonard for at a lot of volume, a lot of inefficiency. Not based on Chris Carson, but based on the Saints. Their run. D is elite, and I think it'll be a struggle, but he'll have enough volume to be a good play.
Jason Moore
Last week he did drop to 55% of the snaps. That's not really an exciting 55%.
Mike Wright
When you go.
Andy Holloway
When you go down to 55, it.
Jason Moore
Doesn'T feel as good. You know, Rashad Penny had more work. I think a lot of people. Rashad Penney was drafted everywhere. He wasn't a free agent guy or a waiver wire guy. I mean, so there's a lot of hope in the Rashad Penny truth or community that we're going to see a changing of the guard? I don't think so.
Andy Holloway
Tyler Lockett. This was what we were expecting.
Mike Wright
What?
Andy Holloway
Andy's face.
Jason Moore
I'm laughing at you saying this is what we were expecting.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, the volume. Yeah, 100%. I was. I was expecting Tyler Lockett's volume to go up.
Jason Moore
You were expecting 12 targets. I thought you were like, more poo pooing on Tyler Lockett through the entire offseason. As was I. As was I.
Andy Holloway
No, I was poo pooing on the. The efficiency that he was hitting on last year, and I was like, so that's why I wasn't necessarily fully interested in. At his draft cost. But I expected the volume to be more like this than week one. Interesting where he saw two targets.
Jason Moore
I'm taking a personal L on Tyler Lockett for week two because week one barely targeted the one big play. Week two, 12 targets. I mean, if Tyler Lockett gets 12 targets a week, he's a top 12, top 15 wide receiver rest of the season, which is not where I had him projected.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'm going to take the W. So Tyler Lockett's a great wide receiver. He's the wide receiver one. It's nice to see him get those targets. This. This matchup is a little scary. You know, it's a really good Saints defense. A little bit of rain. There was rain week one when he only had the two targets, you know, So I don't. I don't necessarily think this is a perfect matchup for him, but I don't see a world where you're not starting Tyler Lockett.
Jason Moore
Through two weeks, the Saints secondary has not been able to stop the wide receiver position. 41 fantasy points per week average is almost dead last in the league. There is opportunity for Tyler Lockett to take advantage of that, especially knowing he is a big play guy. It Just takes one. Tight ends.
Mike Wright
Big Montana.
Jason Moore
What are you doing with Will Disney? Mike? I know what I'm doing. I'm dancing.
Andy Holloway
Going down to the square dance. I'm streaming.
Jason Moore
Streaming him this week. You are?
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I lost in Joku and Big Montana. Well, sure. I don't blame you. They're at home. Disney's looked all right. Couple touchdowns last week.
Mike Wright
If you look at his, you know, his career, you know, he came out last year shocked the world was somehow accidentally awesome. We start getting excited, then is. Then he. Then he's injured. Yeah, he misses everything. Shockingly. Gets back for week one based on the injury and then comes out in Week 2 and has two touchdowns. Maybe he's just. Maybe he's just good.
Jason Moore
I think accidental to us. I'm thinking he was trying to be awesome on purpose. Well, I think he was out there really trying his best.
Mike Wright
Wait, what?
Jason Moore
What am I doing?
Mike Wright
How did this ball get in my hands?
Jason Moore
I better run. I'm so fast.
Mike Wright
My point is, you know, I think if there wasn't the giant year long break, people would be super excited for Will Disney. So. Yeah, I mean, he should be rostered. Brooks has more guts than I do or probably it's a reality. He lost in Joku. Didn't have any other options in that situation. I think you could stream him.
Jason Moore
I'm guessing you had the choice of Vernon Davis and Eric Ebron and Jimmy Graham in that category. Brooks, Right?
Mike Wright
He might have. He might have.
Jason Moore
All right. The Rams, Browns. Rams are two and. Oh, Browns. One and one games in Cleveland. The slate, the schedule for Cleveland, it's tough. So when you, you know, all these expectations, you know, Jason tempering the fantasy expectations now. Beckham is a beast. He's the wide receiver for. We have him consensus wide receiver for in the week. Chubb. I expect great things. You're not sitting Chubb or Beckham. No, but starting Baker against the Rams in this game at home, it's an iffy play. I don't know if it's a ceiling play. Jarvis Landry has not showed up. You can't really do anything there. And then we're going to get to see. We're going to see Ricky Seals Jones maybe out there. Jason, what do you think? Not excited?
Mike Wright
No, I'm not excited at all.
Jason Moore
You're not keeping an eye on him?
Mike Wright
No, I mean, sure, I'll keep an eye on him. Honestly, Demetrius Harris.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Is probably the better play over Ricky Seals Jones. So I'm not super excited about either of them yet. Certainly not starting either one of them. Yeah, that's it. Gross.
Jason Moore
Jared Garf, what are you doing with King Godfrey in this game?
Andy Holloway
I think you can play him. He is much better at home, and unfortunately, he's not there. But I still think that you can play him.
Jason Moore
He's a bench. Big bench for me, really. A big old ball.
Mike Wright
Just based on the home road split thing.
Jason Moore
Well, right now. No, it's not right now. The Browns defense is, you know, looking okay. Both Defenses are top seven in passing yards allowed. Just 200 yards a game. I don't think it's a real ceiling play with the pass rush coming from Cleveland. They looked a lot better on defense last week than they did in week one.
Andy Holloway
So you'd rather play. You'd play Baker over golf?
Jason Moore
I would play Baker over golf.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
I think I would do that at home. Yeah.
Mike Wright
The Browns defense, to me, has not looked good. You could say they're top seven, and I would say, well, they played Marcus Mariota and the, you know, the Jets.
Andy Holloway
Trevor Simeon slash, Luke fault.
Mike Wright
Exactly. So.
Jason Moore
Well, they don't get to choose who they play.
Mike Wright
Well, sure. But if we were. If we're saying, well, they're only allowing 200 passing yards a game, I'd say, how did they give up 200 passing yards a game?
Jason Moore
All right, I guess we disagree on that. One pass rush looked really good last week for Cleveland. And Jared Goff, you mix in a shaky road performance record with a strong pass rush in Cleveland. I'm not encouraged, especially with the inconsistency we've seen from him. So I think he's going to make some mistakes, and I just don't have the same confidence you guys do in King Godfrey. I would sit him. You guys would play him. Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley's just been kind of fine for fantasy 15 and 20 opportunities in the two games. You probably just playing Tide Gurley, if you have him.
Andy Holloway
Yep.
Jason Moore
Brandon Cooks. Robert Woods, Cooper Cup. Last week was a Brandon Cooks week. Now, last year, you had a lot of all of them weeks, Right. Last week was really a Cooks and cup week. You know, Robert woods had some.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
But once again, woods had his day and then it was taken away.
Jason Moore
Doesn't matter for fantasy owners. Doesn't feel good.
Mike Wright
It doesn't matter for fantasy owners.
Jason Moore
Not a lot of points for them.
Mike Wright
Totally agree. But I think the point Mike is bringing up is that what the. What the Rams were doing and did on the field could have included all three of them easily. The penalties wipe those things away. But I don't Think it's like, you know, it wasn't one of those situations where they weren't going his way. They were focused on the other two. Goff was focused on all three. The penalties just wiped that away.
Jason Moore
Are you benching any of the three or are you just starting all three of those guys?
Andy Holloway
Nope, I will play all three.
Mike Wright
Okay, me as well.
Jason Moore
All right. And then like Brown, second most sacks in the league thus far. But I think I'll get the who they played argument again. So.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. How many times was Mario to sacked against Jacksonville?
Jason Moore
A lot.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, a lot.
Mike Wright
Saxonville was back.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, they were.
Mike Wright
He would.
Andy Holloway
We have to at least mention the name Gerald Everett for tight end streamers because Tyler Higby looks like he is not going to play. Everett has had some mild success when he has had to step in and be that guy. He had, I believe, four tar. Yeah, four targets last week. So you're not talking real, real juiced up to play Everett, but he's in the streaming category for me this week.
Jason Moore
So far through two games, in case you're curious. Brandon Cooks has 10 total targets. Robert woods has 15 total targets. Cooper cup has 19 total targets in the offense. Woods only had two last week. Cooper cup had nine. So obviously you talked about some of the plays coming back, but that's a big disparity in week two.
Mike Wright
Yeah. I mean, yeah, again it goes back to the five that came back that don't go on the box score at all. But it seems like it's a pretty even distribution there.
Jason Moore
19, 15, 10.
Mike Wright
I'm just giving the five that didn't exist, that were pulled back. I mean I totally get that. I totally get that they didn't happen. They don't. They're irrelevant for fantasy. But what the play call was what the quarterback did and where he threw the ball.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Moving forward was even.
Jason Moore
Bears one on one taking on the Redskins at zero and two. Redskins or the Bears are four point favorites on the road in Washington, 41 point over under. This is our Monday Night Football matchup. Case Keenum has as many quarterback one weeks as 16 other teams in the NFL, aka half the league, aka two. He's got two two QB week two, two QB one weeks.
Andy Holloway
That was a really over complicated way to say that. Case Keenum has been awesome for fantasy, but the Bears. Exactly.
Mike Wright
I mean it's one of those things where I, I want to start Case Keenum as a streamer. So it's just such a shame. You know, I love Terry McLaurin. What I've seen There. And it's like, oh, man, the Bears. I just.
Andy Holloway
Right.
Mike Wright
It stinks that they have to play them this week. It stinks every week. Someone has to play the Bears. It just doesn't seem fair.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Bears are a great defense. They're giving up 14 fantasy points to the quarterback position, 14 to the running back position, 24 to the wide receiver position, which is ninth best in the league. So I.
Andy Holloway
99.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they. They're. They're showing up. I mean, tight ends have done a little against them this year, but that's because somebody has to. Some position has to. So Terry McLaren. Mike.
Andy Holloway
I play him.
Jason Moore
Really?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I do.
Jason Moore
Wow. I don't. Jason.
Mike Wright
I mean, right now, he is in one of my lineups, but like I said earlier, I'm not excited here. This is where when I say play.
Andy Holloway
I'm like, fleck, this is a wide receiver. Three flex play. This isn't. I'm cramming him. If I only play two wide receivers, I'm making him go in there.
Mike Wright
But it's all a matter of what you have.
Andy Holloway
I'm choosing to believe what McLaurin has done the first two weeks. And the Bears are great. They are not invincible. Emmanuel Sanders. And no, I'm not calling McLaurin Emmanuel Sanders, but Manny Sanders just had himself a great game against this Chicago defense. So it's not an impossibility that McLaurin is just fine.
Mike Wright
Andy, if you had the option of playing McLaurin, Cortland Sutton or Marquez Valdez. Scantling.
Jason Moore
I'll play McLaurin in that one.
Mike Wright
Okay. So, I mean, that's about the type of group that.
Andy Holloway
Exactly.
Mike Wright
There's a group.
Jason Moore
David Montgomery in this game. Adrian Peterson, the running backs.
Andy Holloway
Give me Montgomery.
Jason Moore
Montgomery. Well, it's not necessarily a choice. Just wanted your thoughts on them. Week two Montgomery snap count, 45% rushing attempts. What was it? 18.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. So look, if the snaps weren't what you're hoping for for Montgomery, but the opportunity was there, like he was the guy.
Jason Moore
Is that 18 of 25 snaps, like.
Andy Holloway
In 18 of 25 running back attempts. So he was. He was the primary rusher for this team. I'm like, I'm in. I'll play Montgomery this week. I saw enough from his. From the workload to feel confident to plug him in.
Jason Moore
Do you bench Adrian Peterson in this matchup? He's just not. He doesn't have what it takes to overcome. Not enough. You know, you need some passing work to overcome the bad matchup, right?
Mike Wright
Yeah, especially with the. The combination of the offensive line and the defensive line here. You know, the offensive line of the Redskins has been trash. And then how are they going to block the Bears D line to give.
Jason Moore
AP room to run Alan Robinson? Anthony Miller. Through two weeks, Josh Norman has the third lowest cornerback grade from pff. The Redskins have given up the most fantasy points to opposing wide receivers. 48 fantasy points a game now. Even Mitch Trubisky can work with those numbers, can't he?
Andy Holloway
For Alan Robinson? Sure. Robinson should see enough volume that he'll be fine right in that 2 threshold.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think Robinson will be fine. Yeah, I do. Injury updates, we talked about it. Marlon Mack appears to be working for the first time this week. It's a good sign. Devin Singletary has officially been ruled out.
Mike Wright
Frank Gore, he is infinite.
Jason Moore
He is all. So Fred Jackson's coming back. That's what I think to put a.
Andy Holloway
Bow on that game. We said the Bears defense, they're shutting everything down except for the tight end position. Is Vernon. Where's Vernon Davis in your streaming category?
Jason Moore
He's relevant.
Mike Wright
He's Vern Davis or Jason Whitten.
Jason Moore
Vernon Davis, there you go. Yeah, actually, if I was Brooks, I'd probably. Right on the line there with Vernon Davies and Will Disley. I don't know. That's close. I have Wilson, so that's.
Mike Wright
I went for the Wilson.
Andy Holloway
Everybody's just that.
Jason Moore
Everybody's just hesitant to sign Vernon Davis off of waiver wires because they just expect Jordan Reed to be back. And we're just so stupid. Jimmy Graham did return to practice Friday. Congratulations, all you Jimmy Graham owners.
Mike Wright
Ballers on a Budget, presented by fanduel.
Jason Moore
All right, Ballers on a Budget. We're going to help you with your FanDuel lineups this week. We're going to let Mike kick it off.
Andy Holloway
Sure. Nelson Aguilar. Aguilar.
Jason Moore
Is it or are Sagalar Aguilar. I kind of said them both at the same time.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's Nelson A.
Jason Moore
Now it's an Aguilar Aguilar. No, it's not that. It's not. That's more of a Larry Cable guy type of pronunciation.
Mike Wright
Nelson Aguilar.
Jason Moore
No. Nelson Aguilar.
Andy Holloway
Nelson Aguilar. Did we get it?
Jason Moore
I think we've really. You should have just kept going so you could have.
Andy Holloway
Would have.
Jason Moore
I can't believe the price on him.
Mike Wright
It's unbelievable because. See, we agree.
Andy Holloway
Because his pricing has not seen the reflection of desean Jackson being out and Elshon Jeffrey being out. Like he's. He's going to be Widely owned, but for a good reason. Like he's. He's going to see a bunch of target volume and he's crazy cheap.
Mike Wright
Well, and if you're playing in, you know, you're playing in the ballers tournament here where you just, you win any week and then you're in the.
Jason Moore
Are you talking about the Fantasy footballers leaderboard series with very limited entries@fanduel.com Ballers I am.
Mike Wright
If you're in there, you know, you're. Because it's a limited entry. I don't think it's one of those things where you're necessarily worrying too much about, oh, this guy's own. You want the best options. When I was coming to make my pick, I came to make Nelson Aguilar.
Jason Moore
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Andy Holloway
We got to get it right.
Jason Moore
It's not going to be a thing.
Mike Wright
I came to make Nelson Aguilar my pick, and you already had him, Mike. I do like another wide receiver who I think is very undervalued at $5900. Larry Fitzgerald. My start of the week, he balls out at home. This is a great matchup. Two teams with the highest pace of play in the NFL right now. I think that this is going to be a, you know, the Vegas over under. I'm taking the over on that matchup. So Larry Fitzgerald is a real steal at $5,900.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Incredible price in Aguilar. Incredible price on Larry Fitzgerald. There's a world. Larry Fitzgerald's a top 15 wide receiver rest of the season.
Andy Holloway
I don't disagree.
Jason Moore
Pace of play, air yards. His average target depth is completely changed from last year. And Kyler's slinging it around, man. It's there.
Mike Wright
It was so funny.
Jason Moore
You might want to go get him legitimately, go trade for him.
Mike Wright
In a press conference with Larry Fitzgerald, someone was, a reporter was asking him if he's like, you know, now getting open more. And he laughed.
Andy Holloway
He got.
Mike Wright
He's such a. Such a good man. So he didn't want to, like, give it to the reporter, but he laughed to himself a little bit and said, I think I've been getting open for a while. I'm just getting.
Jason Moore
Which has got to be fun for him, especially he's on the cusp of passing Tony Gonzalez for the second place in total receptions in NFL history. Could do it this week with 10 catches. I'm going to stack with you. Kyler Murray, $7,200 on FanDuel. That puts him in the lower third of pricing at the quarterback position. At home, they got to figure the red zone out. But if they do, everything else is there on paper for Kyler Murray and you know, goodness, if he starts running a little bit more than what he's been doing, gets in the end zone, there's a lot of upside there. Kyler Murray's in the same price range of a Matthew Stafford, so I like Kyler with the upside at just $7,200. So a reminder, get in on the Fantasy Footballers Leaderboard Series FanDuel.com Ballers if you finish first through fifth, you get a DFS pass. You also get a chance to win an all expenses paid trip to Arizona. Hang out with us. See a podcast, so get yourself primed and ready. That's our Ballers on a Budget segment.
Andy Holloway
And if you want even more help, say you're still new to this whole DFS thing. Or maybe you're a seasoned vet, but you want another perspective, check out the Fantasy Footballers DFS podcast hosted by Jake Seeley with Chris Meaney and Joe Holka. Those dudes are crushing.
Jason Moore
Absolutely. It's a great, great listen if you play and we'll be with you this weekend. Enjoy the games. Mike will be with you an hour before game.
Andy Holloway
Yes, I will see you then. Foot Clan. Sleep well.
Mike Wright
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Fantasy Footballers Podcast – Week 3 Matchups + In-or-Out, Tinkerbell Rule Summary
Release Date: September 20, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
In the Week 3 episode of The Fantasy Footballers, titled "Week 3 Matchups + In-or-Out, Tinkerbell Rule," hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve deep into the latest fantasy football insights. The trio kicks off the episode with their signature blend of analysis, strong opinions, and actionable advice aimed at helping listeners dominate their leagues.
Jason Moore introduces the segment, celebrating the community with a shoutout to Cambino and announcing the week's Foot Clan Friday winner:
Jason Moore [04:15]: "It's Foot Clan Friday. So you get $55 to shop ballers.com. Congratulations, you have won this week."
The hosts acknowledge and appreciate their dedicated listeners, fostering a strong community spirit.
The hosts provide an extensive update on player injuries, focusing on their potential impact on fantasy lineups.
Running Backs:
Marlon Mack: Despite not practicing in the prior days, Mack is endorsed as a start if active, owing to his exceptional carries through two weeks and favorable matchup against Atlanta's defense.
Jason Moore [05:42]: "...if Marlon Mack's active, it has my full start of the week endorsement."
Josh Jacobs: Concerns about Jacobs' health persist due to reported sickness and the recent need for IV fluids during the last game. However, given his high elusive rating and recent performance, he's considered a viable option.
Mike Wright [14:03]: "I think he's going to play, Mike."
Damien Williams: Limping and questionable, Williams is marked as out for most listeners.
Devin Singletary: Officially ruled out, Singletary is a definite sit.
Wide Receivers:
Tight Ends:
Gardner Minshew: The hosts debate Minshew's potential, highlighting his impressive performance despite modest stats. Andy emphasizes his limited offensive support:
Andy Holloway [03:24]: "Gardner is absolutely maximizing what he's being asked to do."
Leonard Fournette: Though not a quarterback, Fournette’s efficiency for fantasy is discussed, comparing his performance to fellow RBs.
Austin Ekeler: Touted as a balling-out performer, Ekeler's dual-threat capability is a focal point, making him a top RB3 with potential to break into higher tiers.
Jason Moore [45:52]: "I think he will [remain RB1 through Week 3]."
Todd Gurley: Praised for his consistent fantasy output, Gurley is recommended for continued starts.
Andy Holloway [57:27]: "Yep."
Raheem Mostert and Matt Breida: Both are suggested as strong alternatives with Mostert’s involvement in the passing game and Breida’s efficient rushing.
DJ Chark: Mixed feelings due to recent performances and matchups. The hosts discuss whether to continue using him as a weekly flex option.
Mike Wright [10:08]: "I'm still."
Tyler Lockett: Despite early season hesitation, Lockett’s increasing target volume earns him a top WR spot.
Jason Moore [51:43]: "I'm taking a personal L on Tyler Lockett for Week 2..."
Larry Fitzgerald and Christian Kirk: Identified as must-starts due to their consistency and favorable game plans.
Mike Wright [34:36]: "Larry Fitzgerald is my start of the week. Christian Kirk is just as good a start as Larry Fitzgerald."
Vernon Davis and Jeff Wilson: Evaluated as streaming options depending on matchups and their team’s offensive schemes.
Mike Wright [42:14]: "I think your opponent is dumb. No, I will say..."
Raiders vs. Vikings
The hosts assess the implications of the Raiders facing a strong Vikings defense. Concerns about Josh Jacobs' health and defend against the Raiders’ running game influence the decision to consider Matt Breida as an alternative.
Jason Moore [21:00]: "Can I give you an option then here, like some start sits, because that's what's going to help people."
Dolphins vs. Cowboys
With the Dolphins struggling and high fantasy implications for the Cowboys’ offense, quarterbacks and wide receivers for both teams are scrutinized. The Cowboys are highlighted as having the highest projected team total, making their offensive players particularly valuable.
Jason Moore [26:35]: "The Raiders have allowed the most plays over 20 yards, so we'll see if Stefan Diggs can get loose deep in this one."
Buccaneers vs. Giants
An analysis of the Buccaneers’ transition under new coach Bruce Arians versus the Giants’ evolving offense. The dynamic between quarterbacks and the potential for game scripting are key points of discussion.
Seahawks vs. Saints
The Saints' offensive resilience under Sean Payton against a creative Seahawks defense is explored. Tyler Lockett’s role and potential for explosive plays are highlighted as critical fantasy opportunities.
Jason Moore [52:16]: "Tyler Lockett gets 12 targets a week, he's a top 12, top 15 wide receiver rest of the season."
Introduced by Jason Moore, the "Tinkerbell Rule" humorously addresses the prediction of extraordinary player performances, likening unexpected fantasy boosts to a whimsical fairy flying into one's room.
Jason Moore [17:48]: "It could be a fluke. Yeah."
Andy Holloway [17:55]: "Well, it's not just the Tinkerbell rule, which we have just now stated."
This rule underscores the unpredictable nature of fantasy football and the importance of managing expectations.
In the "Ballers on a Budget" segment, the hosts provide budget-friendly player recommendations for daily fantasy sports (DFS), emphasizing value picks with high upside.
Nelson Aguilar: Identified as an undervalued option due to his low price and potential target volume amid injuries on his team.
Jason Moore [65:17]: "It's unbelievable because... he's going to be widely owned, but for a good reason."
Larry Fitzgerald: Lauded as a steal at $5,900 with a favorable matchup and consistent performance.
Mike Wright [66:25]: "Larry Fitzgerald's a top 15 wide receiver for the rest of the season."
Kyler Murray: Recommended at a reasonable price point with significant upside, especially if he leverages his running ability more effectively.
Jason Moore [67:24]: "How much upside there is at just $7,200. So I like Kyler with the upside."
These recommendations help fantasy players optimize their lineups without breaking the bank, focusing on players who offer great value for their cost.
Throughout the episode, the hosts encourage listener engagement through social media and participation in contests, enhancing community interaction and feedback.
Andy Holloway [19:35]: "All my sports memorabilia is purchased from Pristine Auction."
Mike Wright [68:43]: "Ballers on a Budget, presented by FanDuel."
The Week 3 episode of The Fantasy Footballers offers comprehensive fantasy football advice, covering player analyses, injury reports, matchup previews, and budget-friendly DFS strategies. With insightful discussions and strategic recommendations, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright equip their listeners with the tools needed to navigate the dynamic landscape of fantasy football effectively. Whether you're a seasoned manager or new to the game, this episode provides valuable perspectives to enhance your lineup decisions and maximize your fantasy potential.
Mike Wright [69:12]: "Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast."
Key Takeaways:
Armed with the latest insights from Week 3, fantasy football enthusiasts are well-equipped to make strategic decisions and climb their league standings with confidence.