Week 3 Studs & Stinkers + Magically Delicious - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/28

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Week 3 Studs & Stinkers + Magically Delicious Summary

Release Date: September 28, 2020
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Introduction and Week 3 Overview

The Fantasy Footballers kick off the episode with their characteristic blend of humor and camaraderie. Hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright engage in light-hearted banter about the week's exciting Monday Night Football game, joking about its potential to be "the best Monday night football game ever" (01:18). They also share personal anecdotes, such as Jason recounting his misfortunes with Justin Jefferson (01:38), highlighting the emotional rollercoaster that fantasy football managers often experience.

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2. Injury News

Key Updates:

• Chris Carson: Sustained a minor knee sprain but may be available for the upcoming game. Jason expressed frustration over a poor play leading to Carson's injury (05:33).

  Jason Moore: "If you saw the play, I tried. I tried the best I could after watching the play of... what is going on here?"

• Chris Godwin: Reports indicate a hamstring injury following a concussion, likely sidelining him for at least a week.

  Andy Holloway: "This is bad news for the next couple of weeks."

• Other Notable Injuries:

  • Deontay Johnson exited with a concussion early.
  • Jerick McKinnon suffered an upper rib injury.
  • Jordan Reed dealt with an ankle injury.
  • Russell Gage exited with a head injury.
  • Mike Williams faced a hamstring issue.
  • John Brown and D.J. Jones both had injuries affecting their participation.

The hosts discuss the implications of these injuries on fantasy lineups, emphasizing the importance of monitoring player health to optimize team performance.

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3. Studs of the Week

The trio highlights standout performers who have significantly contributed to fantasy teams this week.

• Russell Wilson: Celebrated for breaking the record for the most touchdown passes, Wilson is on pace for an impressive 75 passing touchdowns this season (14:24).

  Andy Holloway: "He is on pace currently for 75 passing touchdowns."

• Josh Allen: Recognized as a top fantasy performer with five total touchdowns in the game.

  Jason Moore: "Josh Allen had five total touchdowns in this game. He was excellent."

The hosts commend these players for their exceptional performances and encourage listeners to consider them reliable starters in their fantasy lineups.

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4. Stinkers of the Week

The hosts identify underperforming players, providing insights into why they struggled and offering advice on managing these "stinkers."

• Rex Burkhead: Had a disappointing game with poor receiving and rushing stats, contributing to Jason losing by a single point in his league.

  Jason Moore: "Rex Burkhead was 6 for 49 and two on the ground... I lost by one point."

• Tyler Hilton and A.J. Green: Both receivers had lackluster performances, leading the hosts to question their reliability.

  Jason Moore: "Ty Hilton just hasn't made a big play all year."

• Darren Waller: Despite being a key tight end for the Buccaneers, Waller had minimal targets and yards, prompting a discussion on his current fantasy value.

  Jason Moore: "Darren Waller, four targets, two catches, nine yards. Now he was... stuck playing here."

The discussion emphasizes the unpredictability of player performances and the importance of making timely decisions to mitigate losses from underperforming assets.

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5. Player Performances: Running Backs, Wide Receivers, Tight Ends

Running Backs:

• Austin Ekeler: Delivered a strong performance with 11 targets and 84 yards, showcasing his consistency and reliability.

  Jason Moore: "11 for 84. I'm telling you, just the film on Austin Ekeler this year... he's breaking tackles on almost every single touch."

• James Conner: Posted impressive stats with 18 yards and a touchdown, though his overall gameplay left some hosts puzzled.

  Andy Holloway: "I didn't see anything special from James Conner. He didn't look outstanding to me."

Wide Receivers:

• Justin Jefferson: Emerged as a potential waiver wire pickup with 7 receptions for 175 yards and a touchdown, demonstrating significant depth and impact.

  Jason Moore: "Justin Jefferson, nine targets, seven for 175 and a touchdown. Super impressive performance."

• Cedric Wilson Jr.: Transitioned to the Cowboys and secured two touchdowns, making him a valuable addition to fantasy teams.

  Jason Moore: "Cedric Wilson Jr., seven targets, five for 107 and two first touchdowns as a Cowboy."

Tight Ends:

• Travis Kelce: Positioned to reclaim the number one spot with continued strong performances.

  Jason Moore: "A real layup for Travis Kelce tonight to take over the number one spot."

• Jimmy Graham: Had a notable game with two touchdowns and 60 yards, earning him a place among the top tight ends.

  Andy Holloway: "Jimmy Graham. Two touchdowns, 60 yards."

The hosts provide comprehensive analyses of these players, helping listeners make informed decisions about their fantasy rosters.

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6. Team-Specific Discussions

Arizona Cardinals:

• Quarterback Play: Jason criticizes Kyler Murray's mistakes that contributed to the Cardinals' loss.

  Jason Moore: "Kyler Murray made some mistakes and then I just didn't even have a shot in the game against Jason."

• Offensive Strategy: Discussion on Jared Goff's improved performance and the overall rebound of the Cardinals' offense.

  Andy Holloway: "Drew Small sample size... little dump-off targets, you know, weren't going to be replicated, but they were and he was great."

Los Angeles Rams:

• Running Game: Highlighting Darrell Henderson's strong performance and the Rams being the third most run-heavy team in the league.

  Andy Holloway: "Darrell Henderson. 20 for 114 and a touchdown."

• Defensive Issues: Andy contends that a flag call negatively impacted the Rams' game outcome, sparking debate among the hosts.

  Andy Holloway: "They had the game one on that fourth down stop and then the flag came, which I think was a nonsense flag call."

New York Jets:

• Offensive Struggles: The Jets' inconsistent play-calling and quarterback performance were heavily criticized, with the hosts expressing frustration over the team's inability to execute effectively.

  Jason Moore: "They just have a 50/50 pass rush ratio with Calvin Bellage and Frank Gore. Now maybe he feels like he can't."

• Coaching Decisions: Adam Gase's coaching choices, particularly regarding the quarterback's play decisions, were scrutinized.

  Andy Holloway: "It's unbelievable that Adam Gaze has a job."

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7. Fantasy Football Advice and Strategies

Managing Injuries:

• Stick with Volume: Andy encourages managers to remain patient with high-volume players like Joe Mixon and Kenyon Drake, despite their underwhelming performances, emphasizing that their consistent usage could lead to better outcomes.

  Andy Holloway: "Stick with it. It will work out. The carries, the volume is happening."

Stud Selection:

• Top Performers: The hosts urge fantasy managers to prioritize reliable studs like Russell Wilson and Josh Allen, who are delivering exceptional performances and are likely to continue their strong play.

  Jason Moore: "Russell Wilson and Josh Allen are both in the top three all time."

Handling Stinkers:

• Timely Replacements: For underperforming players such as Rex Burkhead and A.J. Green, the hosts suggest considering alternative options or potential waiver wire pickups to mitigate losses.

  Jason Moore: "You might want to start him though [Russell Wilson], but a stall game prediction for your Russell Wilson consistency, I will say no."

Waiver Wire Recommendations:

• Justin Jefferson: Identified as a strong waiver wire candidate due to his impressive Week 3 performance.

  Jason Moore: "Justin Jefferson, nine targets, seven for 175 and a touchdown. Super impressive performance... one of the bigger waiver wire pickups this week."

Trade Strategies:

• Trade Low Performers: The podcast advises trading away underperforming players early in the season to strengthen team rosters with more reliable talent.

  Andy Holloway: "The only way that these two players will finish outside the top 15 this season. There's no way."

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8. Community and Engagement

The podcast emphasizes community engagement, encouraging listeners to join their fantasy football community at joinTheFoot.com and follow them on Twitter @theffballers. They also promote their website, thefantasyfootballers.com, which offers tools, rankings, and a comprehensive repository of fantasy football advice.

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Notable Quotes

• Jason Moore (25:28):

  "Austin Ekeler's breaking tackles on almost every single touch. I expect that you could still probably trade for him lower than what his real value is right now."

• Mike Wright (48:24):

  "Mike Evans, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. It's unbelievable. It's impossible."

• Andy Holloway (40:33):

  "Everyone on Twitter calling these two players busts. We're three weeks in. Nobody's a bust yet unless it's a season-ending injury."

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Conclusion

In this engaging episode, the Fantasy Footballers provide a thorough analysis of Week 3's key performances, injury updates, and strategic advice for fantasy managers. With a mix of expert insights and entertaining banter, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright equip listeners with the knowledge to navigate their fantasy football seasons effectively. Whether celebrating standout studs or lamenting unexpected stinkers, the hosts ensure that fantasy enthusiasts are well-prepared to make informed decisions for the weeks ahead.

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For more detailed discussions and expert advice, visit thefantasyfootballers.com and join their thriving community at joinTheFoot.com. Follow them on Twitter @theffballers for real-time updates and insights.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Welcome in Monday, September 28th.

[Mike Wright]

Let's make it the best Monday ever, fellas.

[Andy Holloway]

It might be the best Monday night football game ever.

[Mike Wright]

That's what I'm talking about.

[Jason Moore]

They call it Cedric Wilson day.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Gentlemen, Dontrell Inman day.

[Jason Moore]

Rex Burkhead day. Justin Jefferson day.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, I'll allow that one. No, Justin Jefferson, that's fine.

[Jason Moore]

I was a big Jefferson fan in Minnesota. I had Lucky Charms for dinner.

[Andy Holloway]

Congratulations.

[Jason Moore]

Because the Cardinals lost and Jason beat me in our league of record and that combination left me in a tailspin.

[Andy Holloway]

I am sorry to hear that. Two bowls, I had a different experience.

[Jason Moore]

Two balls. So you could have had Lucky Charms for dinner.

[Andy Holloway]

For a completely different 100% I was feeling lucky.

[Jason Moore]

Mine was more like self defeating.

[Mike Wright]

Hashtag non sponsor lucky charms.

[Jason Moore]

That'd be nice though. They can sponsor a segment, good or bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Like we've just magically delicious performances.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, this thing writes itself.

[Mike Wright]

I know.

[Jason Moore]

I'm all set up. No, I. I came home from the studio yesterday and the Cardinals, you know, they could have easily beaten the Lions and they didn't. And Kyler Murray made some mistakes and then I just didn't even have a shot in the game against Jason. So I have no, I have Mahomes and Kelsey tonight and I have no hope of winning. And so yeah, I was in one of those, you know, emotional fantasy football moods where I was like, dang it, I got to watch the Sunday night game. But I'd like to run as far away from football as I can.

[Andy Holloway]

So folklore. No, it happens to everyone.

[Jason Moore]

That's why I brought it up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. This is, I mean, one of us was going to just have a bad day. I mean, that's just a fact. We get so tilted and we care.

[Jason Moore]

So much about magically depressing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Come on. General Mills. Where you at?

[Jason Moore]

Twitter@the ffballers. The fantasy footballers.com is the website, the start sit tool, all the rankings, everything over there. JoinTheFoot.com is the community. And you can. You can listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, subscribe and review. You can listen ad free on Stitcher Premium. It's Monday, so it's time for some puns.

[Andy Holloway]

There's some good ones today. Foot Clan.

[Jason Moore]

The most popular pun today. Joshua Smelly.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. When you fumble, you smell Mitch Trabinski.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yes, he did.

[Mike Wright]

Jason, this one is for you.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyler Rocket.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you got to roll the R. Jason Hot Rocket. Jonathan Taylor. Touchdown. Odell Mechcomb Jr. Ty Motel 6. Do not book a stay.

[Jason Moore]

This one's for you too, Jason. Kenyon Drake.

[Mike Wright]

Kenyon Flake, followed up by DJ Morgue. Morgue not recommended for a stay.

[Andy Holloway]

Drew Small sample size.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no. Or poo sample.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Or even Goo goo ga poo.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. We knew it was coming, but let's have some fun with Magic Mike Davis.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Smelvin Gordon.

[Andy Holloway]

Flex Birkin.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I think we're done.

[Andy Holloway]

There were some crazy, crazy performances this week. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Mostly by people you've never heard of.

[Jason Moore]

You like Cedric Wilson Jr. Yeah. Superstar. Yeah. It's going to be fun. We'll go through all the studs, the stinkers. On today's show, there is a Monday night showdown DFS article on the website. You can check that out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's free. Look, if you've never played DFS and you want to know what it's all about, see what the guys are putting out there, what kind of information they're putting out. It's on the website, the fantasy footballers.com and check that out for free right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Weekly rewind.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's get back into our weekly injury news segment, or so it seems. Chris Carson, knee sprain.

[Mike Wright]

Look. And if you saw the play, I tried. I tried the best I could after watching the play of. And I can't remember the. The defender's name. But the best way you can describe it is the defender is holding on to Chris Carson's like, who is down, just hanging out on the ground because the play is over. And then the defender does an alligator roll while holding onto his leg. I'm like, what is going on here? And then Twitter definitely jumped in with, like, professional ex NFL players. Like, that is bush league crap.

[Jason Moore]

Just Tristan Hill.

[Mike Wright]

Tristan, like NFL. You need to review this.

[Jason Moore]

He'll be fined, likely not suspended, according to Ian Rapaport.

[Mike Wright]

But luckily it Was only a knee sprain for Chris Carson, so he might miss some time, but we'll see.

[Jason Moore]

Chris Godwin. This is not good.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Another injury. This time a hamstring injury. He was out with a concussion. Now the hamstring. It's hard to imagine hamstring injury not costing you at least a week.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean, we've seen it with everyone out there. If you, if you remember a couple weeks before the season, you know, or the week before, you had Kenny Golladay and some of these people tweak their hamstring and they were out for a while. And then when, when Golladay was back right now, week three, he wasn't 100%. So this is. It's bad news for the next couple of weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Looked pretty good, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So are you getting back on.

[Andy Holloway]

Am I getting back on the potty? Oh, Body Miller. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Scotty Miller had an 80 plus receiving yards.

[Mike Wright]

Of course he did. Because we all bench.

[Jason Moore]

I know. This is fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

Come on, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you got it. You got to keep an eye out. You know, we've talked recently about the inconsistency of wide receivers. Scotty Miller had a down game two weeks ago. He had a good game three weeks ago. A good game this week. So.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And the difference between three straight good games was one drop touchdown pass. If he catches that pass, we're not talking about him that way. Tariq Cohen. The Bears are fearing a torn ACL for Treat Cohen. This will mean he'll miss the season and more work for David Montgomery in the passing game in those two minute drills. Deontay Johnson. This was a bummer for a lot of fantasy players. Exited with a concussion early. Yeah, yeah. Jerick McKinnon suffered a. I think they were saying upper rib injury. I don't know if I care whether it's upper or lower rib. Is there a difference?

[Mike Wright]

I don't. We'll have to check with our. With our injury guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that Matthew Betts?

[Mike Wright]

Because I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Chest. I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

That's the inner upper.

[Jason Moore]

I just never imagined hurting my ribs and being like, I wish this was my uppers or my lower ribs.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

They're just all ribs. Jordan Reed exited with an ankle injury.

[Mike Wright]

But he came back.

[Jason Moore]

He came back and then he left again. And then Kyle Shanahan says it's not expected to be long term. Russell Gage exited with a head injury. Mike Williams hamstring. John Brown calf injury. D. Jacks with a hamstring injury. To be perfectly. This was another contributing factor. To my lucky charms. Dinner was I played desean Jackson for fear of a hamstring re injury to Kenny Galladay.

[Mike Wright]

Just poetic irony.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Poo poo etic.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Dallas Goddard ankle injury. Going to miss some time.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. This one is a bigger deal. He left this. So you're not playing Dallas Goddard anymore. But the the fantasy spin of good news is Zach Ertz finally came through with some semblance of a good fantasy game. It took overtime to get there, but is Zach Ertz should be a much stronger play now, at least for a couple weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Carson Wentz, though.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my goodness. What is happening?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know how to undo the curse.

[Mike Wright]

What is happening?

[Jason Moore]

I put the curse on after that tweet and I don't know. I have no idea. I've never learned how to undo one.

[Andy Holloway]

I've watched enough, you know, late 80s, early 90s movies to know you have to do the same thing again. You have. So I would just that he's the.

[Jason Moore]

Best player on the field.

[Andy Holloway]

One week in one. One quarter in next week. I would send that tweet. Just do it.

[Jason Moore]

All right. No eyes of newt or no cauldrons.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, goodness, he stinks right now.

[Jason Moore]

He doesn't look good. Jared Cook left with an ankle injury, Mitch Trubisky was benched, and Nick Foles came back and won the game.

[Mike Wright]

And I have no idea how. Like if you.

[Jason Moore]

If you saw Nick Foles, I don't either. Speaking of curses, like the first three.

[Mike Wright]

To four passes from Nick Foles. What? That was quarterback play of someone who's never watched a football game in his entire life and then. But then comes back, wins the game.

[Jason Moore]

Even his fade away throw to win the game looked as ugly as can be.

[Mike Wright]

Dude, Nick Foles is magical.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's one part Nick Foles and one part Atlanta Falcons.

[Mike Wright]

I think you're underestimating the one part for Falcons.

[Jason Moore]

I thought you were gonna say it's just the contrast of Mitchell Trubisky. One part Mitchell, who was simultaneously your stream and you said could get benched, which we said, hey, they're two. And oh, what are the odds of Mitchell Trubisky getting benched?

[Andy Holloway]

It would take him looking like Mitchell Trabinch.

[Mike Wright]

Goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

At least he put up an he put up some fantasy points before getting benched.

[Jason Moore]

Circling the drain, the Broncos quarterback Jeff Driscoll benched in the fourth quarter. Brett Rippon, who I'd learned plays quarterback in the National Football League this weekend be ripping. Yeah, not good. We didn't see Blake Tyrod Taylor expected to miss week four as well. I think we saw 50 pass attempts from Herbert.

[Mike Wright]

Herbert looks promising.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's just got some, you know, it's the mistakes combined with the main rookie.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. When you.

[Jason Moore]

How many targets for Keenan Allen?

[Mike Wright]

I believe it was 19.

[Jason Moore]

19. Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes. Oh yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Not enough.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not sure there would be 19 pass attempts if Tyrod Taylor was the quarterback. Right now this is the best thing for the pass catching options for Austin Eckler, who looked amazing.

[Mike Wright]

I love that Herbert had. He took my strategy of if I were a quarterback, I would just throw at my best player every single play until the defense was.

[Jason Moore]

It's legitimately why the Cardinals lost that game.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

DeAndre Hopkins was open on every play and Keyshawn Johnson was getting targets in crucial possessions. And if he just threw it to Hopkins every play.

[Mike Wright]

Well, when you have a chance to go downfield to a double covered fifth round wide receiver, you got to do it.

[Jason Moore]

No reports of new injuries for these guys because they didn't play in Week 3. Julio Jones, Devonte Adams, Michael Thomas, A.J. brown, George Kittle, Cam Acres. I think Kittle was on the fence and they could have played him, but they were worried about the turf. They worried about the turf at that stadium as they.

[Mike Wright]

They should have been. I do think that George Kittle will be back. Cam Acres. Man, talk about being out on the wrong game when Darrell Henderson just absolutely goes hamburger.

[Jason Moore]

The most interesting thing about the Rams this year is they're the third most rush heavy team in football. So there is plenty to go around and we'll see what that looks like. But henderson looked great. 10 yard chunks. Yeah, it looked like Gurley when he was making those big plays.

[Andy Holloway]

The Rams look great and they won that game. In my opinion. In my opinion. And look, I'm thrilled they didn't. You know, as this is what's great.

[Mike Wright]

About opinions is your opinion. He won. Now like factually, scientifically, provably, Gore wise.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. They lost. But my point is I. They had the game one on that fourth down stop and then the flag came, which I think was a nonsense flag call.

[Jason Moore]

Look, as it wasn't a great call.

[Mike Wright]

As an Arizona Cardinal fan, you know, I love the. When you see a penalty, ref, you got to call the penalty. As an NFL fan, that was. That was rough.

[Andy Holloway]

Rough.

[Jason Moore]

Let's talk studs.

[Andy Holloway]

This week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, me, oh my. Russell Wilson, Josh Allen.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh. Start them. Go. Go ahead.

[Jason Moore]

In terms of fantasy production through three weeks, Russell Wilson And Josh Allen are both in the top three all time. So you're having two of the Josh Allen start would be the only thing we'd be talking about if Russ wasn't cooking with gas. I mean he just broke the record for the most touchdown passes.

[Andy Holloway]

He is on pace currently for 75 passing touchdowns. So.

[Jason Moore]

75.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. That is, I apologize, 74.7.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, now it seems reasonable, right? Touchdown rate of 15 plus percent.

[Mike Wright]

Like what?

[Andy Holloway]

What?

[Jason Moore]

And if you observe these games beyond just. I mean, you could use as many words to describe how great he's been as you want, but he's just standing back there picking which touchdown pass to throw.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's. It's very bizarre that the, the defense of the Dallas Cowboys didn't try to change anything. At least.

[Andy Holloway]

At least.

[Mike Wright]

Look, I'm not a, not an NFL coach. I can't speak to X's and O's, but watching the game, it seemed like they were just doing the same thing over and over and over and hoping like this, this time it's going to work, guys. We'll just keep sending forward.

[Jason Moore]

The difference DK Metcalf makes in this offense being maturing into this.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Ever present threat on the field is humongous.

[Andy Holloway]

It seems impossible to keep both DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett from getting behind you at a certain point. And then all Russ does is throw it to the moon. And the moon kisses the ball and throws it right back to the wide receiver. That's wide open.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but they have Miami and then Minnesota on the schedule for the next two weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's not good.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man.

[Jason Moore]

You. You ready to make a trap game prediction, Mike? For your Russell Wilson consistency, I will say no.

[Mike Wright]

But we all know it is coming at some point.

[Jason Moore]

No Kris Carson most likely for a little while.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The only week that I'm not going to play Russell Wilson is week six.

[Mike Wright]

That the bye week?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, it is.

[Jason Moore]

You might want to start him though.

[Andy Holloway]

I know.

[Jason Moore]

On that week.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't doubt it.

[Jason Moore]

You might. Josh Allen had five total touchdowns in this game. He was excellent.

[Mike Wright]

He was excellent.

[Jason Moore]

He was excellent. First player in NFL history with at least 10 passing touchdowns and two rushing touchdowns in first three games. Raiders, Titans, Chiefs keep playing Josh Allen, Dak. The way that Dak keeps getting his fantasy production has been a little bit messy. I mean The Cowboys are one and two. It's been a lot of coming back in games. 472 passing yards.

[Mike Wright]

I mean this, this is what Coach McCarthy said was going to happen though in the office. He said we're going to have to win games with our offense.

[Jason Moore]

And, and the defense was like what you saying?

[Mike Wright]

And then he said, you be quiet defense, because we've watched you play.

[Jason Moore]

Jared Goff. Jared Goff had a very healthy afternoon.

[Andy Holloway]

They came back in a way, I mean it was if you, you know, if you didn't watch the game or see it, the Bills just dominated the face of the Rams 28 to 3. It was, it was an embarrassing effort by the Rams and a incredible super bowl worthy performance by the Bills. And then as I said earlier, the Rams came back, took the lead and I think should have won the game. So yeah, it was a, it was a major credit to the Rams off.

[Jason Moore]

What they shouldn't have to give them a better chance of winning. They shouldn't have gotten down 28 to 3. That was the real.

[Andy Holloway]

I do agree that hurts your chances unless you're down to the Falcons, in.

[Jason Moore]

Which case it's equal chance.

[Andy Holloway]

Equal chance.

[Jason Moore]

It's like zero. Zero.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I'm sorry Kyle, the Borgogan, our editor in chief is a, a big, was a big Falcons fan. There are a few teams that are having rough, rough seasons. Would you rather be. Let me ask this.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I know the question.

[Jason Moore]

Would you rather be a Falcons fan and go through what you've gone through or would you rather just be pummeled into oblivion from the first snap like the jets and be a Jets fan?

[Andy Holloway]

Give me Dan Quinn all day, best coach ever. I'm a Falcons fan. I do not. I couldn't imagine having to deal with the ineptitude of the jets because you can watch Falcons game and have fun. You can watch a Falcons game and have hope. Sure. Your hope will be dashed to pieces.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. You will have your soul ripped from your body.

[Andy Holloway]

Absolutely. But you at least there's something at least you had a soul, right. To be ripped from the body. If you're watching a.

[Jason Moore]

It's that age old question. Would you rather have a soul ripped from your body or not have a soul at all?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And that's the Jets.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the community on Twitter is, you know this tanking for Trevor going to fix the Jet situation. And I there are those that believe if you just put Patrick Mahomes on the New York jets which again making that equivocation of Trevor Lawrence to Patrick Mahomes instantly kind of silly. But if you put him on the jets, could Patrick Mahomes save the Jets?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, absolutely. Because the one thing that I know is that if you are a first ballot hall of fame quarterback. You can play with Adam Gaze just fine. Peyton Manning did it, won a championship.

[Jason Moore]

As long as you're following your own plays on the field.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why. Because you're not listening to Adam Gaze, man.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, all right. Tom Brady had a nice week, Breeze. Very nice. Fitzpatrick.

[Mike Wright]

Breeze didn't do anything.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, Breeze. This is the most frustrating thing of all time.

[Mike Wright]

Transport the ball to Alvin Kamara. That's the game plan.

[Jason Moore]

It's called the Kyle, what was it? Kyle Allen, Big fantasy days. Christian McCaffrey last year.

[Andy Holloway]

We have, you know, a plus two points for a 40 yard touchdown in our league of record. You realize Drew Brees gets to get that with a screen pass to Alvin. Alvin Camara's like, oh, he kind of.

[Jason Moore]

Shook his head coming off the field. Breeze did. He's just like, all right.

[Mike Wright]

Because that play made no sense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Alvin Camara is decent.

[Andy Holloway]

A 52 yard screen pass where it should have been, a 2 yard pass.

[Jason Moore]

My favorite part of that play was when he bounced off of the tackle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

The balance of bouncing off the tackle.

[Mike Wright]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

All right. Yeah. Brooks also had. He's got the same grill as Alvin Camara.

[Mike Wright]

He does.

[Jason Moore]

He's got the same grill. 14 targets, 13 catches, 139 yards, two touchdowns through the air and only six carries. Pathetic performance from Alvin Camara.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would. Six carries.

[Jason Moore]

He's the wide receiver one rest of.

[Andy Holloway]

The season and the running back one. He's both.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the Let me ask you a real question though, because the saints are 1 and 2 and I know it's hotly debated and it'll be all over regular NFL chat today. Does it. Does what you've seen from Drew Brees actually concern you? He's got no Michael Thomas. You know, everyone's making a big deal of his average depth of target, but if you look at the last five years, he's been 28, 29th or 30th every year in average depth of target. We knew that was the recipe for Michael Thomas as well. Are you concerned? Because, you know, people seem to be very afraid and he seems to be going underneath even more frequently.

[Andy Holloway]

I am.

[Mike Wright]

Are you speaking. Are we afraid for fantasy or we generally. Right.

[Jason Moore]

And which leads into fantasy. I mean, because you're not going to have a 52 yard screen pass every game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't. You know, a lot of people pick the Saints to win the Super Bowl. I think they might have even been my pick preseason. I can't remember. But that would make a lot of sense. All the continuity, you know, the final year, I believe, of Drew Brees career go off, win a Super Bowl. I don't see that happening unless something changes with Brees because over the course of time you need to be able to come back in a game and air it out and do the things that he's been able to do in the past. I'm not concerned for fantasy because he's going to dink and dunk his way to great success. When you have Alvin Camara and soon Michael Thomas, you'll be fine. But as far as if I'm a Saints fan, I do have worries because even when you saw like, okay, here's a 17, 18 yard throw to Emanuel Sanders. Seems like over the first couple of weeks every single wide receiver is going to the ground to catch that ball. It's near their knees or feet, every single pass. And whether that's just on purpose and it's a comeback and it's keeping it away from the defender. I just don't remember that in years past.

[Jason Moore]

All right, let's keep twisting the knife on Andy today. Rex Burkhead, and I'll tell you why. Rex Burkhead was 6 for 49 and two on the ground, 7 for 49 and one through the air. And you might say, well, nobody had Rex Burkhead played against him. And you'd be wrong because I in our CBS Telethon League raising money for St. Jude.

[Mike Wright]

No way.

[Jason Moore]

Where I am defending champion but was sitting 0 and 2. I had Rex Burkhead started against me and I lost by one point.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my goodness.

[Mike Wright]

That's absurd.

[Jason Moore]

Absurd. With a very high score this week, I. One point.

[Andy Holloway]

I have to imagine when you saw Rex Burkhead.

[Jason Moore]

Cummings. Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Against you, you said, hallelujah. This is fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

And I was running away. I just. I had, you know, Josh Allen and players that were scoring lots of points.

[Mike Wright]

But a quick shout out to again to Kyle the Borgogan, the editor in chief of the fantasy footballers, also writing up incredible content for the DFS pass. Rex Burkhead was highlighted in this week's dfs.

[Jason Moore]

He mashed it this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Dart throws article in the DFS pass was unbelievable. I mean, just left, right and center.

[Jason Moore]

It seems like it was written this morning.

[Andy Holloway]

It seemed. That's exactly what it seems like.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Like great sports almanac stuff in there.

[Mike Wright]

Well done, fellas.

[Jason Moore]

James Robinson, big week. Derek Henry, a couple of touchdowns. Finally, 26 for 119. Which means that hit the Moore.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that's right.

[Jason Moore]

Congratulations, Austin eckler. Huge game. 11 for 84. I'm telling you, just the film on Austin Eckler this year. He is as good, if not better than he was last year. He's breaking tackles on almost every single touch. I expect that you could still probably trade for him lower than what his real value is right now.

[Mike Wright]

It's. It's possible. It is possible. But my man, 11 targets, 11 receptions. Yeah, this dude has caught every target.

[Jason Moore]

That's pretty much what Camara did. 14 targets, 13 catches.

[Mike Wright]

I know what I'm looking at his box score here. He's caught every target this year.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the whole year. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Because Austin Eckler's really, really, really good at football. And now with Justin Herbert, he's getting those targets. I was very, very panicked after week one seeing what was going on with Tyrod Taylor. And look, the. If you've got Eckler, Justin Herbert is saving your fantasy skin right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The best thing that could have happened to the fantasy options in the, you know, in Los Angeles for the Chargers was this move to Herbert. And you hope that, you know, it doesn't switch back for fantasy purposes, because if it does, I think you sound the alarm again.

[Jason Moore]

Nick Chubb, great game. Dalvin Cook, great game. James Conner. This was such an interesting game from James Conner. Watched every snap of that one. 18 for 109 and a touchdown. Five targets and. But at the same time we saw some interesting red zone work. Benny Snell was in there for a goal and carry, didn't convert. And then Anthony McFarland was on the field quite a bit and looked okay, which was something we're not used to seeing is other backs kind of work into their rotation. But obviously Connor was outstanding. No thoughts?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it was weird. I agree with you. It was weird. When I watched, I agree, I didn't see anything special from James Conner. He didn't look outstanding to me. And then every time I'd look at the box score, I'm like, oh, he's doing better than better than I thought. And then he has a great game. But I'm, I just was surprised because watching it, if I didn't have, you know, my app out and looking at the box score, I'd be, I would assume. I'm disappointed in his fantasy production.

[Mike Wright]

He has balance like he's, he's not going to, he's not going to out athlete you like. We saw it, you know, last week on his big breakaway run where other running backs, if they're faster, they're scoring a touchdown easily. And he got chased down, he got caught, but he just, he bounces around on guys and stays up as long as he's healthy. I mean he's, he is a good running back. He's a, he's a solid player. He's just, he's not the breakaway for three speed type of player.

[Jason Moore]

Jeff Wilson and Jerick McKinnon both contributed for fantasy. Wilson had two touchdowns so ended up on top. But McKinnon, he's got the rib injury. We'll see if he's yet another injured. Whether Mostert comes back next week, whether McKinnon's out. Jeff Wilson right now looks very solid.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, for fantasy purposes, he does.

[Jason Moore]

Mike Davis had a big week 8 for 45 through the year. That's. That was the key in this one. Which is what? He was heavily targeted last week and outperformed my expectations.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was the hope. You saw it at the end of week two when it was. I just assumed it was garbage time. It's all these little dump off targets, you know, weren't going to be replicated, but they were and he was great. So all the cmc, you know, managers that, that ended up picking him up as your, as your pivot.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So far so good.

[Jason Moore]

And I believe Arizona next week. Darrell Henderson, 20 for 114 and a touchdown. Malcolm Brown, same amount of snaps, but Henderson did a lot more with him.

[Mike Wright]

Darrell Henderson looked like the player we believed he could be coming out of last year's. Yeah, coming out of last. Last year's rookie class, he was one of our favorite running backs. Unfortunately, he was stuck behind Todd Gurley at the time. And then you brought in Cam Acres. Made things real muddy. But Darrell Henderson, you still need. I still need some time. I'm not going to declare Darrell Henderson is the guy in this backfield. I don't know that there ever will be a guy. But as long as Cam Acres is out, Darrell Henderson's looking like a great play.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been a top 12 running back two weeks in a row now, barring Monday Night Football, of course, but 11th last week, 11th this week, and looking good, doing it.

[Jason Moore]

Very, very similar situation to San Francisco. I mean, you're kind of picking a running back to start in San Francisco every week these days, and they're running it so much that you can do the same thing in Los Angeles. All right, wide receivers. Tyler Lockett, huge game 13. He had three touchdowns in the first half.

[Andy Holloway]

I know. I was super disappointed.

[Jason Moore]

You wanted more than three seconds.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You know when he's got three in the first half, I was like, can we do six?

[Jason Moore]

You didn't go to four or five. You said, can we double up?

[Mike Wright]

What is the record?

[Andy Holloway]

The pace says in one game. Yeah, you can. I mean, you can get six in a game.

[Jason Moore]

Justin Jefferson, nine targets, seven for 175 and a touchdown. Super impressive performance from Justin Jefferson. He'll be one of the bigger waiver wire pickups this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we'll have a lot of discussion on whether it's a mirage or real tomorrow and how much of your budget to spend.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Cedric Wilson. Who? Cedric Wilson Jr. Seven targets, five for 107 and two first touchdowns as a Cowboy and he got two of them.

[Mike Wright]

It's a wild west down there for the Dallas Cowboys of who's going to come through with the yardage.

[Jason Moore]

500 yards to go around every game, and you got to pick people.

[Mike Wright]

And now if you're adding Cedric Wilson into the mix, that is. Oh, boy.

[Andy Holloway]

So unfortunate. We said this is the rare game where you should be able to start. CD Lamb, Michael Gallup. Michael Gallup and Amari Cooper. All three could have legit good games. And here comes Cedric Wilson. Just play wide receivers against the Seahawks.

[Jason Moore]

Keenan Allen, 19 targets, 13 for 132 and a touchdown. Alan Lazard, eight, four or eight targets, six receptions. 146 and one. Just missed the, you know, huge 72 yard touchdown dragged down at the three.

[Mike Wright]

He's not very fast.

[Jason Moore]

No. But yet the separation on deep routes, getting open, man.

[Mike Wright]

Love it.

[Jason Moore]

And his effort to get that, that first ball that everyone's giving Rogers the credit for, the, you know, kind of back foot, fetty way throw. Lazard just, he got there.

[Andy Holloway]

He answered the question definitively. As far as who is the one between him and mvs. There was debate on both sides. I think it was a close call. But you saw the not, not because he had more fantasy points, but like the way that they came, the way that they involved him. It looked more like how they used Devonte Adams, the clear first read in the offense and then, and then he did enough, you know, on his own with those targets to be great.

[Mike Wright]

There was an interview of Aaron Rodgers was on the Rich Eisen show. You know, it's talking about how good the team is, you know, playing with a chip on your shoulder. And then Alan Lazard came up and I don't if you've ever heard the way that Aaron Rodgers speaks in interviews. It's very, very soft, very. Just underspoken. And they're talking about Alan Lazard and how he's like, well, you know, Lazard could play with the chip on his shoulder. Whether it's him not being drafted and then he just goes through like eight things for like Aaron Rodgers is keeping track of all the times that Allen Lazard has been slighted. It's fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

Reminds me of Jordan in Last Dance where Jordan had all these reasons to keep something, you know, keep the edge that is Rogers.

[Mike Wright]

But Rogers does it for other people too. Yeah, that man can hold on to a grudge.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Lockett wasn't the only my guy with a good week. Cooper Cup, 10 targets, nine catches, 107 and a touchdown. Good game for Robert woods as well. Nice to see both of those players with big weeks. Jared Goff has a nice matchup this upcoming week and he's got two straight weeks with three total touchdowns. So it's looking pretty good for that offense. Hopkins another 12 targets, 10 for 137. Ho hum.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it was a pretty disappointing game. 10 for 137 felt like his floor.

[Mike Wright]

I won't hit the breaking news, but we did get an update here on Chris Carson. Ligaments intact, minor knee sprain. Even has a chance to play this week.

[Jason Moore]

All right, that's good news.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, good for you, Chris.

[Jason Moore]

Considering how the injury happened, it's even better news. Pay attention to T. Higgins led those Cincinnati wide receivers in snaps this week. Two touchdowns, nine targets. Tyler Bro. Tyler Boyd, 13 targets, 10 catches.

[Mike Wright]

There's a name missing from this Cincinnati list.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, couple of weeks in a row. Did we mention Alan Robinson?

[Mike Wright]

No, we did not.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a name to watch. I mean, if Foles is the quarterback, I think it's much better for Alan Robinson. Being able to catch the ball is an important part of being a wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

He had a touchdown taken away from him in this game too. I don't know if you all agree it was taken away.

[Mike Wright]

I thought it was taken away.

[Jason Moore]

13 targets, 10 catches. Looked great. And Andy Isabella. Hey, two touchdowns for Andy Isabella. I probably don't need to mention it though. Jimmy Grandpa. 10 targets. He ran a ton of routes in this game. Two touchdowns, six for 60. Okay, we'll see. What?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we'll see.

[Jason Moore]

Waiver show tomorrow. Looks like Tyler Croft. Two touchdowns. Eric Ebron, a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyler Croft was another one of those DFS dart throws.

[Jason Moore]

Wait a minute. We've got another touchdown at the tight end position. Gigantor Mo, Ali Cox. Three targets.

[Mike Wright]

Do the right thing, Indianapolis. Come on. Do the right thing.

[Jason Moore]

I think they. They've done the right thing.

[Mike Wright]

Three targets for a Giant is not enough.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but they didn't even play their main starters for the second half of this jets game.

[Mike Wright]

For the Colts, Jack Doyle was active. He was back on the field. Limiting Gigantor Mo, Ali Cox to his three targets.

[Jason Moore]

Really doesn't seem fair to have one Titans nickname be Baby Hands and the other Titans nickname be.

[Mike Wright]

Look.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know if it's fair or not to say that a giant is a giant. And another man has wee little baby hands and drops passes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my God.

[Andy Holloway]

Take the strong hand.

[Jason Moore]

I think. I think we'll talk about the other Bengals wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Stinkers of the week presented by Odor Eaters.

[Mike Wright]

Gotta eat that odor. Let's get it out.

[Jason Moore]

That's all I'm eating these days. It's just odors. Just eating odors. Someone get me a bowl of Lucky Charms. Ryan Tannehill stank. Not good.

[Mike Wright]

I really thought wild. 321 yards.

[Jason Moore]

Can I ask you a question? Because it was Minnesota, Right. So the matchup was great. Jason, you had Josh Allen against the Rams.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

You have Ryan Tannehill on your league of record team. You have A.J. brown. If A.J. brown had been active, how tempted would you have been to go with the stack of Ryan Tannehill? Just take yourself back because it's Minnesota.

[Andy Holloway]

I Completely understand. I liked Tannehill's matchup. I thought he was a good play this week and I would have started A.J. brown. So the temptation for the stack might have been there. If it wasn't Josh Allen, there would have been zero chance that I would have benched Josh Allen on the tear that he is on. So you can at least comfort yourself there. Ryan Tannehill didn't stink. I mean 321 yards. He did stick for fantasy. You were very disappointed if you played him. But you know, that's the context we always need is did this play, is this player playing poorly and you need to move off of them or did the touchdowns go to Derek Henry this game and he didn't, you know, have any, any passing touchdowns. That's what happened with Tannehill.

[Mike Wright]

Well, the big deal, the big news of that game was Stephen Goskowski and he is now going sockless.

[Andy Holloway]

That did it.

[Mike Wright]

That's he's crediting going sockless for the change in his fortunes. I am not joking. This is not just because it causes.

[Jason Moore]

Like a big rash on his like the top of his foot.

[Mike Wright]

This is not satire. This is actually happening.

[Andy Holloway]

I could see that making a difference.

[Jason Moore]

He went 6 for 6 in this game with a 55 yarder.

[Mike Wright]

He is going to need some odor eaters.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes he is. Yes he is.

[Jason Moore]

He's eight for his last eight after that horrible first game.

[Andy Holloway]

Talk about sticking with a guy.

[Jason Moore]

I've thought about six kicks to win in this game.

[Andy Holloway]

I assumed that he would be let go after week one. Obviously he's got a good relationship from the Patriots day with head coach Mike Vrabel and he decided to stick it out with him. And goodness gracious, that what, what a great piece of coaching. If that has played a part in the confidence that you give your kicker and not just body bagging him and sentencing your team to have poor kicking play right to have a show of strength.

[Jason Moore]

Cam Newton, Matt Ryan bad weeks for fantasy purposes. Cam Newton only 162 passing yards.

[Andy Holloway]

When it comes to. Here's a. Here's an early season lesson. If your quarterback does not have their wide receiver one, it's not that it can't go well, right? Drew Brees had a fine fantasy week this week. Thank you. Alvin Camara. But he didn't play well. Ryan Tannehill was not good for fantasy without AJ Brown. Matt Ryan was not good for fantasy without Julio Jones. Apparently having a solid wide receiver.

[Jason Moore]

One matters running backs that let you down this week. Melvin Gordon, Kenyon Drake, Joe Mixon Josh Jacobs definitely concerned about Joe Mixon. He has not found his way into the end zone. Has Jacksonville this upcoming week, which I think is a, you know, an opportunity for him. But we haven't been able to see him and Joe burrow together and it hasn't worked out fantasy wise for Joe Mixon yet. 17 for 49 in this game, pretty disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

I need to speak to all the Joe Mixon and Kenyon Drake managers out there. You're panicked, you're worried they have not been what you want. You drafted a hopeful high end RB1, but a guaranteed top 15 running back. And right now you've got a running back two at best with those two players. And the reality is you still got what you are drafting. There's no way that these two players will finish outside the top 15 this season. There's no way. Right now the fourth most carries in the league is King and Drake. The fifth most carries in the league is Joe Mixon. The volume is there and the fantasy points will come. Yes, it's been disappointing. Yes, right now they are, they are definitely a huge disappointment. But I see everybody, everybody on Twitter calling these two players busts. We're three weeks in. Nobody's a bust yet unless it's a season ending injury, in which case you forgive a bust. They are very disappointing. I, as you know, my guy for Kenyan Drake. I'm disgusted. But stick with it. It will work out. The carries, the volume is happening.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I looked that up with Kenyon drake this morning. 54 carries on the year. Chase Edmonds, despite coming in for a lot of snaps, it's got like 12 carries on the year. I mean this is Drake's. Drake hasn't gotten into the end zone since week one and that makes a big difference.

[Andy Holloway]

So yeah, just stick with volume plays like this. I mean, I'm not saying that you don't make a pivot if you know you've got a good matchup with a James Robinson or someone else.

[Jason Moore]

That looks really Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, sure, I mean Jonathan Taylor has usurped these two for sure. But you can, you can, you can make a different start over them if you, if you want, but stick with them. Better days are ahead for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Kenyon Drake plays Carolina and the Jets.

[Andy Holloway]

Better days are coming quickly.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, if you want to go.

[Jason Moore]

I thought that Detroit would be a better day too. And now 18 for 73. Not the end of the world. He gets in the end zone. It's a good, good week.

[Mike Wright]

If you want to trade low for Kenyon Drake now's the time to do it.

[Jason Moore]

Melvin Gordon had a rough week, gets the jets next week as a salve. Yeah, David Montgomery 14 for 45 was basically non existent due to really weird game script and treat. Cohen was out there and then all of a sudden Cohen goes down and Montgomery got targeted a couple times, got the Rock in this one.

[Andy Holloway]

He's another one of those, I don't know, it's going to depend on your league. But he's another trade low target for me. Now some people will see the Tariq Cohen news and say, oh, I'm going to hold on, I'm not going to trade him. Great. But some people don't recognize what that's going to do and he's going to have a great rest of season without.

[Jason Moore]

Tariq Cohen and with the helpful Nick Foles moving the offense, hopefully.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Kelly, are you worried about him after this hugely disappointing performance in the fumble?

[Mike Wright]

It certainly was. I need to dive in, try and figure out if we can get some information here from the coaching staff of what happened to his opportunities. But from, from someone who's watched a lot, played a lot of fantasy football, this really feels like fumble punishment for Joshua Kelly.

[Jason Moore]

Leonard Fournette.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, dude. No. This is why the policy is absolutely no Buccaneers. It went completely back to Ronald Jones. You do not. Do not play Tampa Bay Buccaneers right now.

[Jason Moore]

Agreed.

[Mike Wright]

Walk the plank.

[Jason Moore]

All right, Mike. D.J. moore, four targets, two catches, 65 yards. Unfortunately, this ball is just getting spread around a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And it didn't get spread around to DJ Moore. The four targets of this past week, very disappointing. Not even. I don't know, I don't know what happened, why it was four. It was nine targets, 13 targets, all the way down to four now. He made the most of it. He at least gave you two for 65. So it wasn't a zero like it was looking. But this is, this is not great news.

[Jason Moore]

If you have initials in your name, watch out. D.J. moore, Ty Hilton, A.J. green, Green, six targets.

[Andy Holloway]

D.J. chark did the right thing to sit this one out.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that AJ Green is not worth the franchise tag right now.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair. That's a fair thing to say.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I think all three of these players need adjustments a quarter of the way through the fantasy season, essentially, and it's not looking good. I mean, A.J. green, 5 for 36.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's rough. For realizing it now to speak more to DJ Moore and more to more. Robbie Anderson also had six targets. I Mean, this was a interesting complete change of what we've seen in the first two games. Not that I'm happy about it. You certainly can be worried about it.

[Jason Moore]

And Ty Hilton just hasn't made a big play all year.

[Andy Holloway]

No, we talked up that 50 yard touchdown pass that was, that was missed and you know, you'd feel better about those games. But now, three games in a row, I blame the quarterback for Ty Hilton.

[Jason Moore]

I will say this, it was, it was. He was not on the field for the fourth quarter again. I mean the jets game was basically.

[Andy Holloway]

It was over Jordan Wilkins. The jets started the game in the first 90 seconds by spotting the other team seven points. It was a pick six to start the game. Right off the bat you go, oh, this is a bad Ty Hilton game script. If I had to choose who I want rest of season between Ty Hilton and AJ Green is Ty Hilton.

[Jason Moore]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

To me, I think A.J. green is Philip Rivers. Feared he might be Philip Rivers.

[Mike Wright]

The last two week is averaging about 23 passes a game. That's not, that is not a game script for any fantasy value for passing.

[Jason Moore]

Multiple pick sixes hurt Jonathan Taylor from having a better game too. They didn't, they weren't on the field.

[Mike Wright]

And then the Jets. How did the jets respond to the circumstances they were up against? Well, it was second and what, 20 something. And they went with a handoff to Frank Gore. They didn't even try.

[Jason Moore]

I'm trying not.

[Andy Holloway]

Isn't this like what was a hyperdrive or.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, that was the hyperdrive, man.

[Jason Moore]

Second to one, it seems like we're being trolled. This is an SNL skit. I mean, I try not to talk about this all the time because jets fans don't need to hear any more of it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, they see it every week, but.

[Jason Moore]

It'S, it's literally they're like 50, 50 pass rush ratio with Caleb Bellage and Frank Gore. Now maybe he feels like he can't. You know, Darnold wasn't great. Darnold made a few good plays in this game. Darnold threw two pick sixes. Darnold made some huge mistakes. It's hard to blame him. It's also hard not to include him in the blame.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

But I just don't. What you said is right. They're not trying to win the game. How do you hand the ball off on second and. What was it? Third and 20. Second and 27.

[Mike Wright]

Second and 20 something. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

When you're down by multiple touchdowns. Second and 27. Handoff deception.

[Andy Holloway]

They'll never see it coming.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, well, I'll tell you what. It didn't work.

[Jason Moore]

Feels made up, man. It just feels made up.

[Andy Holloway]

It's unbelievable that Adam Gates has a job.

[Mike Wright]

I'm sorry, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

And he'll get. This is what we said in the studio yesterday, Jason. He will get another. He will be fired and he will get another. Not a head coaching job, but he will get another coordinator job.

[Andy Holloway]

That's good for the show.

[Jason Moore]

That is good for the show because.

[Andy Holloway]

We can make our jokes and we can look super smart by avoiding every offensive player wherever he goes.

[Mike Wright]

It's also great for that fan base that they can go. It's time. Time for me to leave. I need to find a new team. These people suck.

[Jason Moore]

You know, he was. I think he was rumored for Arizona back when we wouldn't even be here. Dodge to be able. Beckham and landry, nothing special. 4 for 59, 4 for 36. They ran the ball and they can do it. I mean, they're above 500 now. And Nick Chubb and Cream Hunt looked incredible.

[Andy Holloway]

Again, every time that one of them touches the ball. Speaking of those two running backs, I think, why isn't the other guy getting the opportunity? He was great. Oh, he's. Oh, this guy's awesome. I mean, it's every play. Both. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to defend against a fresh at all times? A fresh and a fresh Hunt?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yikes.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Stefanski is doing exactly what he wants to do in this offense right now, which is not.

[Andy Holloway]

Let Baker throw it. Now.

[Mike Wright]

He's not a stinker. He wasn't a stud of the week either. I just want to make sure. Jason, do you know Mike Evans stat line?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my gosh. I do. It is. It should be a stinker and a stud. I don't get it.

[Mike Wright]

It should be both at the same time.

[Andy Holloway]

But you have never.

[Jason Moore]

It's a toot.

[Andy Holloway]

You lit. It is a toot. Andy, well done. You have never. And this is a guarantee. There has never been a worse multi touchdown receiving game in the history of the NFL. If you're unfamiliar with his stat line.

[Mike Wright]

Mike Evans, Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

[Andy Holloway]

Two receptions, number two. Two yards, two touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

It's unbelievable. It's impossible.

[Jason Moore]

Didn't he have a one yard touchdown in week one?

[Andy Holloway]

It was a two yard touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, well, doubling.

[Andy Holloway]

That's how he was able to get the second one today. What do you make of yard?

[Jason Moore]

Is that like.

[Mike Wright]

Do you.

[Jason Moore]

Do you panic or do you just.

[Mike Wright]

No, you. You ride that out. This was the Buccaneers didn't really have to try to win this game.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. All right. Corey Davis, six targets, five for 69. That's fine. Any other real Brandon Cooks? Just five targets, three for 23 in this game with Will Fuller kind of coming back. Nothing much from Slayton and Tate. Very hard to trust anybody on the Giants offense right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, just looking at the 16 game pace for Mike Evans. He's on pace for.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

500 receiving yards and 21 touchdowns. So the weirdest usage of all time now, basically the Jordan Howard of wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my God. Not a comp you want.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Darren Waller, four targets, two catches, nine yards. Now he was. When it comes to Jacobs and Waller, we didn't know if they were going to even play right. And Waller ends up playing. And I'm sure people chased last week's points. You kind of are stuck playing here.

[Andy Holloway]

If you had Waller, you started him for sure.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but it was a stinker for fantasy. It's like really put yourself in the mindset. I don't know what you could have done. You have Darren Waller and you're holding on hope, holding on hope. And then you get to the weekend. Are you really going to the waiver wire and saying, I'm grabbing.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

This guy who's. Who isn't rostered at this point. You're playing Darren Waller. Even though this was. This was Jon Snow. The gif of Jon Snow pulling out the sword while the entire army charges at him. You know, you knew what you were up against here for Waller. Better days are coming for him.

[Jason Moore]

Higby Henry, Fant Ingram, any concern across the board there?

[Andy Holloway]

Not. Not much. I mean, you like Hayden Hurst.

[Jason Moore]

Where are you with him? Because only one catch for one yard, one touchdown. Two out of three weeks have not been great for Hayden Hurst.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm still okay with Hayden Hurst. Obviously, Matt Ryan did not have a great game with Julio Jones missing. And so, you know, I think the offense as a whole opens up. Hayden Hurst is similar to any back end, tight end, one opportunity.

[Mike Wright]

Russell Gage is hurt as well, so check on him. Because if Russell Gage misses time, that isn't an uptick for Hurst.

[Jason Moore]

Is this the time? Are we moving on from Logan Thomas because of Dwayne Haskins? Seven targets, just four for 31. The targets are there and it tempts you.

[Mike Wright]

But yeah, I don't mind. I don't mind moving on at all. But Dwayne has.

[Jason Moore]

His time is running out. Just so you know, Rivera is tired.

[Mike Wright]

Of it because there's nothing hopeful. If you're watching the games and I'm watching Washington with a very critical eye because I want my man Antonio Gibson and Terry McLaurin to get things done. McLaurin is getting it done, but it's not with the help of Dwayne Haskins. He's. He has been incredibly disappointing. Daniel Jones has been incredibly disappointing. But there's just. I haven't seen anything from Haskins this year. Where you're going. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

We can. We could coach him up. Let's eliminate some of these mistakes. It's just.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's looked bad.

[Mike Wright]

It's been really rough.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Really bad.

[Andy Holloway]

And. Yeah. So the targets aren't coming through for Logan Thomas. The targets didn't come through for Noah Fant, but they were there. If you.

[Jason Moore]

Hard to have confidence there with. Now what?

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Ripping.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's going to be ripping the ball all over the field. It might be Bortles, but I'm still taking the. Oh, man, Please. Let's go, Blake. I got a snake, man. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I got a snake, man.

[Andy Holloway]

But take solace in this tight end. You at home, you're saying, man, my tight end stunk this week.

[Mike Wright]

They all do.

[Andy Holloway]

They all did. Let me read you the top 10 tight ends. You ready?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Jimmy Graham. Okay. Maybe you started them. Maybe that was the tight end one. Tyler Croft. Nobody started him. Ebron. Nobody started him. Tanyan? Nope. Mo. Ali Cox. Okay. All right. Maybe you chased last week Jesse James, Foster Moreau, Jacob Hollister. Holy Mercedes Lewis. Like, nobody had a good tight end week. I mean, you had going to be.

[Jason Moore]

A real layup for Travis Kelsey tonight to take over the number one spot.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the number two spot, Jimmy Graham. Two touchdowns, 60 yards. He.

[Jason Moore]

Two touchdowns at 60 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, that's, that's.

[Jason Moore]

That's nice.

[Andy Holloway]

That's like. I mean, if you're setting that line for Travis Kelce of fantasy points.

[Jason Moore]

Fair enough.

[Andy Holloway]

You go, I'll take the over.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. All right. Drew Sample. That experiment's over.

[Mike Wright]

Jason, care to comment?

[Andy Holloway]

I am.

[Mike Wright]

You talked me into Drew Sample.

[Andy Holloway]

Here's.

[Mike Wright]

I want my fab back, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

My official series.

[Jason Moore]

A lot of fab.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, but that was in a dynasty league. You should have Drew Sample in a dynasty league.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you want to. I'll trade him to.

[Andy Holloway]

I will absolutely. I will absolutely trade for Drew Sample in our dynasty league.

[Mike Wright]

Just give me my fat back.

[Jason Moore]

That's more of a stool sample.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, look, it's one week where he disappeared, one week where he was involved. I'm not going to. I'm not going to just jump off the cliff already I realized it was a, I mean, completely worthless, you know, cricket filled game. But I'm just saying, you know, we, we try to take in a little bit more data.

[Jason Moore]

Well, okay, but you're not, you're not playing him in a redraft league.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, you're not playing him in a redraft league. But if you picked him up and spent a lot of fab in a dynasty league, you're fine.

[Mike Wright]

Jason caping for Drew Sample might be like the favorite thing I've ever heard on this show.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Odor Eaters. Go talk to Steven Koskowski. He needs help.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Yes, enjoy it. We shall.

[Jason Moore]

I will beat Jason if Mahomes throws eight touchdowns tonight and they're all to Kelce. That's right. Farewell.

[Mike Wright]

Stay safe everybody. Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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