Week 3 Waivers & Streamers + Rookie Rundown - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/16

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast – Week 3 Waivers & Streamers + Rookie Rundown

Date: September 16, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright

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Episode Overview

This episode zeroes in on Week 3 waiver priorities, quarterback streamers, and a frank “rookie reality check” for fantasy managers in redraft leagues. The crew reflects on Monday night’s games, discusses major rookie running back letdowns, and offers actionable insight for managers scouring the waiver wire after early-season injuries. Conversation is lively, data-packed, and loaded with the signature banter and strong opinions that define the Fantasy Footballers.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Recap: Monday Night Games & Player Performances

Buccaneers vs. Texans (20-19)

• Baker Mayfield’s durability: “I saw Baker suffer I think three season-ending injuries last night... And yet continues to play.” – Mike (03:03)
• Bucky Irving’s role: Led the team in receptions (6 for 50 yards receiving). “This was something you saw in preseason that has been validated so far with the snap counts as high as they are.” – Andy (04:10)
• Nico Collins: 9 targets but only 3 catches, highlighting ongoing issues with Houston’s offensive line.
• Fantasy Take: Keep an eye on Bucky Irving’s usage in the passing game.

Chargers vs. Raiders (20-9)

• Geno Smith struggles: “Has been near the top of the league... just constantly missing players that are wide open.” – Andy (05:29)
• Chargers’ Defense: “They play angry.” – Jason (05:54)
• Justin Herbert’s impact: Sustaining three viable fantasy WRs (Quentin Johnston, Keenan Allen, and Lad McConkey).
• Lad McConkey’s outlook: “He is not going to be what he was last year... the ceiling is gone, but the field could reopen for him later in the year.” – Mike (06:43)

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2. Rookie Rundown: Panic or Patience?

The crew tackled rookie RB usage and urged managers not to overreact to slow starts.

• Reality check (“bust or slow start?”): It’s typical for rookies, including star names like Nick Chubb & Justin Jefferson, to struggle out the gate. “It is not very normal for... these players to come out and give you dominant performances to start the year.” – Andy (09:38)

By Player:

• Genti: Huge snap drop from Week 1 to 2 due to pass-protection issues. “He made mistakes repeatedly; that could have had a lot to do with it.” – Andy (11:43)
• Hampton: Fumbled early on limited work. Still worth patience.
• Henderson/Harvey/Caleb Johnson: All mentioned as concerning but not droppable.
• Buy low or sell panic: Jason advises friendlily, “I would try to make cheap offers on them... I do not personally expect those three running backs to finish the season as bad fantasy assets.” (12:07)
• Startable? “Doesn’t mean you have to start those players either.” – Andy (12:32)

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3. News & Notes [13:20–16:56]

Key Injury Updates:

• Jaden Daniels: Knee sprain, “truly day to day”—rushing to be limited even if he plays.
• J.J. McCarthy: High ankle sprain, out 2-4 weeks.
• Joe Burrow: Turf toe, likely out for the season.
• Brock Purdy: Unlikely to play this week.
• Justin Fields: In concussion protocol.
• Aaron Jones: Not expected to play this week.

Notable Quote

• “This is a really tough week for quarterback streaming and... you have a ton of managers... going to the wire.” – Jason (15:13)

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4. Waiver Wire Priorities [17:02–24:06]

Running Backs

• Top Priority:
  • Bay Shaw Tootin (JAX) – “He looked the part to me... they got rid of Tank Bigsby, seems like they were very smart to do so.” – Andy (19:46)
  • Ramondre Stevenson (NE) – Only rostered in 60%. “That blew my mind... A starting running back should not be rostered exactly [like this].” – Andy (19:23)
• Short-Term Pickup: “Ramondre plays PIT and CAR next—both good matchups.” – Mike (20:39)
• Other Names: Trey Benson (getting targets), Chris Rodriguez (possible Week 3 role in Washington), Tyler Allgeier (“desperation play, but he gets goal-line work”), Blake Corum, Miles Sanders (insurance).
• Drop Candidates: Caleb Johnson can be dropped, but Harvey/Henderson/Hampton must be rostered. “A starting running back should not be cut.” – Andy (23:45)

Actionable Takeaway

• The RB waiver scene is comparably thin, which underscores the value of any starter-level back cutting loose.

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Wide Receivers [25:48–33:13]

• Top Targets:
  • Romeo Doubs (GB): Locked-in number one; Jaden Reed’s injury opens more targets. “He’s at the top because he’s the most secure number one.” – Mike (30:27)
  • Troy Franklin (DEN): “Eight for 89, big play, nine targets. 83% of snaps... career high.” – Jason (26:37)
  • Wandale Robinson (DEN): “He’s probably my number one pickup because of the passing volume I saw from Russell Wilson.” – Andy (28:30)
• Other Options:
  • Alec I.O. Manor (talented, but concerns over Cam Ward at QB).
  • Cedric Tillman (volume, luck with the TD, but involved).
  • Dontayvion Wicks (GB, more usage in the slot with Reed out).
• Upside Swings:
  • DeVontez Walker (ultra-volatile big-play guy with high efficiency).

Notable Debate:

Would you drop Darnell Mooney for these options?
“No, I see him in the same tier. You gotta spend FAB to go sideways.” – Jason (30:17)

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Tight Ends [33:41–36:54]

• Juwan Johnson (NO): “He’s my number one pickup of the week of all players.” – Mike (34:12)
  • 20 targets in two games, tied to a creative offense, high volume and red zone usage.
• Jatavian Sanders (CAR): Opportunity for “year two breakout” but playing time is an issue; worth a stash in deeper formats.
• Zach Ertz (WAS): Possible safety blanket if Daniels is limited.
• Others discussed: Brittain Strange, Tyler Warren, Colston Loveland (“kitty kennel”/“banished” for his lack of involvement so far).

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5. DST Streamers [39:07–40:44]

• Atlanta vs. Carolina: Tons of QB pressure, Carolina struggling offensively.
• Tampa vs. Jets: Jets likely starting a backup.
• Seattle vs. New Orleans: At home against Spencer Rattler.
• Arizona vs. San Francisco: Riskier, but okay if stranded.
• Chargers vs. Denver: “Chargers defense just looks outstanding in a divisional matchup.” – Jason (40:36)

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6. Quarterback Streamers [42:00–48:00]

The Landscape:

“Injuries galore, tough in the stream streets this week.” – Jason (13:13)

• Daniel Jones (VS TEN): “He has the wheels... going on the road, it’s a good matchup.” – Jason (42:22)
• Sam Darnold (SF): “He is on the waivers after a bad week at home vs. Saints, but I don’t mind him.” – Mike/Andy (42:14)
• Justin Herbert (“your starter”): Number one in pass rate over expectation; “This is not a fluky multi-TD performance. This is a pattern and a way the offense is functioning.” – Andy (44:13)
• Mac Jones (NE): “Bonus nasty”—strong Week 2 after a rough start, faces an Arizona defense with injury concerns.
• Carson Wentz (MIN): Deep league desperation—“he can run a little, the peripherals make sense to me.” – Mike (47:46)
• Droppable QBs: “Purty and McCarthy were already streamers. Joe Burrow... you basically have to drop him, but that is so sad.” – Jason (48:00)

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7. Listener Mailbag & Trade Strategy [49:41–57:03]

• Matt Golden on waivers—how much FAB?
  Jason and Mike: “20–21%” (50:49) Andy: “10%” (50:51)

• Javonte Williams—now a sell?
  “Yes, but only sell high. Don’t just get something for him, get value.” – Jason (53:01)

• Chase Brown for Kenneth Walker?
  Mike: “I think he [Walker] is net neutral right now. Chase Brown still has juice.”

• AJ Brown for Emeka Egbuka trade?
  Jason and Mike: Recommend sticking with AJ Brown despite Egbuka’s hot start. “He is not AJ Brown.” (55:51)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “He made mistakes in pass protection repeatedly and that could have had a lot to do with [Genti’s snap drop].” – Andy (11:43)
• “Baker Mayfield, dog.” – Jason (03:13)
• “A starting running back should not be cut.” – Andy (23:45)
• “This is not a fluky multi-touchdown performance. This is a pattern and a way the offense is functioning.” – Andy (44:13)
• “He’s my number one pickup of the week of all players.” (about Juwan Johnson) – Mike (34:12)
• The “underpants” drop saga: The crew’s recurring bit about the need for “unobtainium underpants” when considering deeper streamers (46:54)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Monday Recap & Rookie Panic: 01:38–13:10
• News & Injury Roundup: 13:10–16:56
• Waiver Wire – RBs: 17:02–24:06
• Waiver Wire – WRs: 25:48–33:13
• Waiver Wire – TEs: 33:41–36:54
• DST Streamers: 39:07–40:44
• QB Streamers: 42:00–48:00
• Listener Mailbag: 49:41–57:03

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Tone & Style

True to their brand, the trio blend advanced football understanding with approachable, often irreverent commentary. Expert analysis is paired with humorous sidebars (“dog meter,” underpants sound effects) and actionable, no-nonsense advice.

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Takeaways for Week 3

• Don’t panic on rookie RBs; patience or buy-low trades are recommended.
• Prioritize RBs with clear pathways to touches, especially Tootin and Stevenson.
• Wandale Robinson and Romeo Doubs headline a thin WR waiver class; upside options like Troy Franklin are worth speculative adds.
• Juwan Johnson is a prime TE pickup, with high usage and red-zone threat.
• Quarterback and running back injuries make streaming key—Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold are best-in-show under current circumstances.
• Defenses vs. backup QBs or bottom-tier offenses (ATL, TB, SEA) are prime streamers.
• When trading, heed warning: don’t just get rid of underperformers; always sell high and think strategically.

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End of Summary

Transcript

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[Andy Holloway]

Oh welcome in the Fantasy Footballers. Back with you. Tuesday, September 16, Mike the Fantasy Hitman Jason Moore, Andy Holloway Week two in the books and we are here with a waiver wire episode news to talk about. We'll reflect on the Monday night games and we will talk about the rookies because I think that's one of the big reactions from the dookies. Oh okay.

[Jason Moore]

Hannock in the streets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we've had two weeks of NFL football. We've had a bunch of rookie running backs with huge opportunities or so we thought. Or perhaps they will come. But Hampton, Genti Henderson, Caleb Johnson, RJ Harvey. It's not been a good two weeks. There are a lot of people with panic like you said and they want to know what to do with these players that they drafted to start. And last night, you know, if we want to get into the two games we had the Buccaneers and Baker Mayfield, dog 20 to 19 over the Texans who are now oh and two in that division.

[Mike Wright]

I saw Baker suffer I think three season ending injuries last night.

[Jason Moore]

His knees are destroyed, his ankles gone.

[Mike Wright]

And yet continues to play.

[Jason Moore]

Dog.

[Andy Holloway]

He's so fun to watch. He is an incredible story.

[Jason Moore]

The play where he is down, he is on his knees writhing kind of in pain and then immediately gets off to he Just gets up to talk crap. He's like, oh, wait.

[Mike Wright]

Because it fuels him.

[Andy Holloway]

He turned the switch off. The pain like she flipped it off.

[Jason Moore]

Someone's near me. I could talk some crap to his face. Check this out. I'm not even hurting anymore.

[Mike Wright]

And then he ran until he went on the bench. And his face was the man of who is in extreme pain.

[Jason Moore]

There was no one to talk crap to you on the bench, man. Then he ran again.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, 4th and 15. He was fine and popped back up. And so they get it done. Bucky Irving, 17 for 71, didn't score. Rashad White with the tricky touchdown because.

[Mike Wright]

There'S no if I'm that defense and I see Rashad White, 0.0% chance that they're going to run the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

That's why it was.

[Mike Wright]

I know it's because, oh, Mike Evans, disrespectful.

[Andy Holloway]

5 for 56. Abuka, 4 for 29. Did save it with a touchdown and illegal touchdown. And Bucky Irving, pay attention here. Six for 50 through the air, through two weeks. This was something you saw in preseason that has been validated so far with the snap counts as high as they are. For Bucky Irving getting involved in the passing game, I mean, he was. He led the team in receptions. Just like, wow, that wasn't something I think we saw coming. And then Nico Collins, you know, it was good and bad for Nico. He scored an amazing touchdown. Nine targets, awesome. But only three of them were caught. And the offense still looks like it's. It's okay at best.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that offensive line is going to be an issue.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, it's not like we didn't know how important offensive lines are. But if you look around the league, you look at the Eagles and the, you know, the Lions and these teams who focus on their offensive line. And then there are a handful of teams, the Bengals now without Joe Burrow because they couldn't protect him and he just kept getting massacred behind the line. Or. Or the Texans, who have plenty of skill, position, talent, a good quarterback, and it's irrelevant. You can't. Your offense is just inept when you have no offensive line.

[Andy Holloway]

In the other game, the Chargers beat the Raiders 20 to nine. It was a bad day for Geno Smith.

[Mike Wright]

Gino was so disappointing for somebody that.

[Andy Holloway]

Has been near the top of the league in completion percentage in recent years. Does to go 24 for 43 and constantly be missing players that are wide open. Mike was sweating out a victory and needed Jacoby Myers not to do anything. Myers had 12 targets. He only caught six of them. And multiple touchdown opportunities were taken away by Geno Smith, Brock Bowers.

[Mike Wright]

Really, really good defense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the Chargers defense looks fully legit. I mean, they are. They play angry.

[Mike Wright]

Is this. Can. Can it finally happen after years?

[Andy Holloway]

Always injuries, years and years and years.

[Mike Wright]

If you're like, hey, you're. You're. The sneaky insiders are like, we. Yes, the Chargers, this is the year. They're going to be good. And then it never works. But Harbaugh.

[Jason Moore]

Harbaugh has changed the franchise. They're ready to make a serious run and be a Super bowl contender.

[Andy Holloway]

Justin Herbert was great. And through two weeks, I mean, you guys got to realize this. He's basically sustaining three good fantasy options at wide receiver. Quentin Johnston, Keenan Allen both scored. Keenan, my saving grace start of the week, for goodness sakes. I needed Keenan in a big way.

[Mike Wright]

We're on to week three, bro.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Lad McConkey, five for 48. He is not going to be what he was last year. I think. I think that was why I was concerned about drafting him in general was just that Keenan and having more options.

[Mike Wright]

I am personally not concerned about last.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not really concerned. It's just. Where did you tear him in before the season and where do you tear him in now? I think he was unanimously a wide receiver one before the season. Do you look at him as a wide receiver, a top 12 wide receiver now, Mike?

[Mike Wright]

No, not top 12. The Keenan Allen, when they brought him in, that was like, lad McConkey was on the board for my guy for the entire offseason. And the Keenan Allen was like that. I had to pivot away because the. That true ceiling was gone. But I. The way that they're throwing at like teams will eventually start respecting the other options. Like, they're like, oh, I guess we do have to guard Q. Maybe that's something that we have to shut down. And then that just. That reopens the field for lad.

[Jason Moore]

Honestly, huge is a big problem for defenses because he is not their best, most important thing. You need to shut down. He's not you. The way that Lad and Keenan can command just normal drives and just moving chains and they get open and you're focused on them. It was before that touchdown from Huge. I remember having the thought in my head, I was like, it feels impossible. That huge doesn't get along bomb in this game because eventually you're going to take a couple shots and the defense cannot be focused on that when you've got Lad. And so to me I look at this offense and I just go, wow. They have a real with with the laser beam that Herbert can throw, the routes and the space that these two possession receivers can make. And I know Trey Harris just getting involved. But even if you start working on huge you have two other rookies like this is going to be an offense that's hard to stop.

[Andy Holloway]

So one of the big things I think leading us into the discussion about the rookies because you know I named five like you spent high draft capital on Genti, on Hampton, on Henderson, on Harvey really, you know, and then the other ones in the mix, you draft them at a point in your drafts where you're wanting to start them. It hasn't really been viable to start them. And then in this game Genti and Hampton both struggled through two weeks. The Chargers are number one in pass rate over expectation in the National Football League. They're not really running the same running schemes that Baltimore ran when Greg Roman was there. So so far we're putting the ball in the hands of Justin Herbert and it's working. They're two and oh. But just to give you perspective, if you want to think about how you go about the rookie situation because right now it is a sell low on everybody. If you. If you wanted to get rid of that. Yeah. Or buy low and if you're on the other side of it, here's some numbers. Ryan Heath collected these just to give you data. Through two weeks as rookies, Bucky Irving was averaging five points a game. Rashi Rice had run 16 routes. Jameer Gibbs had a 37% snapshare. Devon Achan had played five snaps. Justin Jefferson had six targets. Nick Chubb had five rush attempts. Christian McCaffrey was averaging 2.7 a carry. And you can go on and on like it is not. It's not very normal for a. And those are all stars for these players to come out and give you dominant performances to start the year. And unfortunately they're getting in their own way. Hampton had the fumble now that's it.

[Mike Wright]

Was after not getting a ton of.

[Andy Holloway]

Work though that was a tough fumble too because he got hit so fast. But it was always on him. Genti couldn't pass block to save his life. Against this defense we know Henderson had the three. He had three penalties. Caleb Johnson gave to a win hurt his team without touching the football.

[Mike Wright]

The like Henderson was honestly the way we talked about Henderson I very, very excited. We knew it would take some time.

[Andy Holloway]

The people are not a big fan of that.

[Mike Wright]

I know but it's like that was the thing the Genti and Hampton what that's more confusing to me of you. You took Ashton Genti at number six overall and then you're in a two minute drill and you're running out Dylan Louby to catch passes like that is. It's only two weeks of course but as of right now that's egregious of either your scouting not being 100% confident in a. You're a rebuilding team and you took a running back at number six. That is I stand by of bad teams should never take a running back that high. But the fact that you're like no, we got we need to run another player out there for Genti, that is horrific.

[Jason Moore]

Week one Genty played 86% of the snaps. It's what we expected this week it was 56% of the snaps and and.

[Andy Holloway]

He made mistakes in pass protection repeatedly and that could have had a lot to do with.

[Mike Wright]

He looked better to me. And like we saw some, some of the, the college genty of you're like oh okay this guy, he can be a very, very special player. But if this is going to be the mix that's weird. And the Hampton taking a first round running back when you are going to do this with the passing game is very strange to me.

[Jason Moore]

I would say that with those three main guys, the three highest drafted in fantasy football personally I would try to make cheap offers on them. You know in different leagues people are going to be freaking out they're owing to because of these guys who are disappointing who aren't on the field if you can buy them cheap. I do not personally expect those three running backs to finish the season as bad fantasy assets.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm the least concerned about Genty for sure. Yeah, I think Genti is going to be just fine. I'm probably, you know, Hampton is probably the second I'm least concerned about but it is a concern to have Harris now 50, 50 on the on the rush attempts in this game and you just, you need to give it some time, you let it breathe. But it doesn't mean you have to start those players either. Right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Even if you trade for them, if you find a good deal where you can flip, you know, a decent elder running back who's doing okay and you know a wide receiver who's had a good first two weeks and you can acquire one of these running backs that doesn't mean you have to start them.

[Andy Holloway]

So that's the data on the rookies and our take on them. 11% of the way through the season. Let's talk some news.

[Jason Moore]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insur.

[Andy Holloway]

More quarterback injuries, more pain. Jaden Daniels with the knee sprain truly day to day. And Dan Quinn said he, quote, can't tell what that means for Sunday. Right now he had an mri. So we'll, you know, I think it's, it's very fair to surmise that Jaden Daniels will probably have fewer rushing attempts in, in the next couple of weeks. He may not even play in this game, but if he does, I would expect him to be more limited mobility wise with the knee sprain. J.J. mcCarthy, we just found out he has a high ankle sprain and he's going to be out for two to four weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Carson Wentz, by the way, McCarthy has an injured ankle.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there's a bunch of.

[Mike Wright]

Just seeing some weird stuff out there and there is like the plays out there. There's video. It wasn't at the beginning of the game, but it was right before the end of the third quarter. Defender gets away with a hip drop and. And landed right on McCarthy's ankle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. And the Vikings have two international games in Dublin and London before the week. Six by Carson Wentz will take over. Joe Burrow, we talked about it yesterday, but the turf toe injury looks like the Bengals will be without him probably the rest of the season. Brock Purdy, unlikely to play this week.

[Jason Moore]

You see who the Bengals signed?

[Andy Holloway]

Like 50 guys.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

No Footy award winner winner.

[Jason Moore]

Brett ripping farts. Yeah, he's back, baby. Ripping farts.

[Mike Wright]

Good locker room guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Anyways, Justin Fields is in concussion protocol and Aaron Glenn said it'll be hard to start him if he doesn't practice Wednesday or Thursday, which seems like definitely up in the air on Justin Fields.

[Jason Moore]

This is a really tough week for quarterback streaming and it's combined with this at the same time. You have a ton of managers in every single league that are going to the wire like they need a quarterback this week with all these injuries. So it's rough in the streets.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably not going to have Aaron Jones this week for the Vikings as well. So no Aaron Jones, no J.J. mcCarthy, Juwan Jennings, who came out in Week 2 action with an ankle injury and then I think came back in. But we'll see. They're going to pay attention to Joanne Jennings this week along with like four more 49er injuries. Liam Cohen said Brian Thomas entered. This is such a weird. This is super weird because.

[Mike Wright]

Liam, there's rules. So what are you doing?

[Jason Moore]

He's trying to backtrack he's just working through some stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

So anyways, the story is Brian Thomas apparently entered the game with a wrist injury. I don't know if that affects your dog level, But Brian Thomas Jr. You know you're supposed to be on an injury report.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And then they interview him and they're like, yeah, so if he's came in with a wrist injury, why isn't he on the report? And then Liam Cohen, like looked like a deer in the headlights, like, well, you know. Well, yeah, it's just something he's kind of been dealing with. La la la la la la la la la la.

[Mike Wright]

Duvall, Liam, get it together, man.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Chris Rodriguez will be back in the fold in week three now that the Austin Eckler season is over for the commanders. That was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote Today at progressive.com, progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all states or situations. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We're going to jump into the waiver wire.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

So you can check that out. JoinTheFoot.com get access to the community, support the show, hang out with really good people and take advantage of those premium tools. Also, the waiver wire rankings are on the site thefantasyfootballers.com we'll start at the running back position. What was that?

[Jason Moore]

Jason just heard a little.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you going straight from ripping farts into Bayshaw Toons?

[Jason Moore]

Look this, I didn't name them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, this is really. You're, you're living in your, in a dream world.

[Jason Moore]

This is a dream.

[Mike Wright]

Everything's a fart joke.

[Andy Holloway]

Bay shawl Tootin is near the tippy top of the list. But I was surprised to see Ramondre Stevenson was only rostered in 60% of leagues.

[Jason Moore]

That blew my mind when I saw that.

[Andy Holloway]

That feels like it is a result of like, emotion. Like we just don't like him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well. And we're so excited about Henderson and the report before this week came out that Henderson was going to potentially last week see a lot more snaps. And honestly, I believe.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that the report from liars.com no.

[Jason Moore]

I think it was true. I think it was true because you watch Vrabel talk about how Henderson was doing what Ramondra did in practice this week. But what happened in the beginning of the game was Henderson, he got the bench. I mean, he came out in three holding penalties. And it's like, well, you can't play football for me anymore.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, Ramon Ray was terrible in week one. So just a. Against the Las Vegas Raiders, he had 10 opportunities. He was 7 for 15 on the ground and he caught two passes for 12 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Makes you wonder if the Raiders run defense might be after what we saw last night.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, possibly.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe they're pretty good.

[Mike Wright]

Possible. But I'm saying, like for your surprise, Andy, for. For Ramon Dre, he had the exact same amount of snaps and he was garbage in week one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but no starting running back should not be rostered. Exactly. That's insane. I mean, it's like Ramon Ray Stevenson is getting started, snaps and carries, and it's like you have to put that on your roster. We're sitting here.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I know Tootin is not available in the leagues I'm playing. Caleb Johnson is not available in the leagues I'm playing in. And they weren't playing like Ramon Dre is the starting running back for the Patriots. He has to be rostered everywhere.

[Andy Holloway]

So those are. I mean, Bashaw Tutin, who was. Who was he looked the part to me. Yes. 8 for 42 on the ground, had the reception for the touchdown. Baseball. Tutin is available in more leagues. He is the running back for Jacksonville. They got rid of Tank Bigsby. Seems like they were very smart to do so because Tutin doesn't seem any me. Seems like he's got juice and he does for sure. So those are the two guys for me.

[Jason Moore]

Travis Etn looked really good in week one, looked really good in week two. So maybe he's back to what he was two years ago. But when you are targeting some of these backups. You know, last year you brought this up, Mike. The reason that you really liked Bucky Irving was because you did not believe in Rashad White. Rashad White was a fine football player, but he Wasn't really that explosive, efficient player. And I would not be surprised if as the season goes along, all of a sudden Travis ETN kind of reveal yourself. He's not quite as great as he's been these first two weeks.

[Mike Wright]

If you need short term help, Ramon Dre Stevenson plays Pittsburgh next week, who through two weeks looks just awful against running backs followed up by Carolina. So I think my, my short term, I just need some. I need a band aid right now. I don't mind going after Ramon Dre. He's probably going to be cheaper compared to Tutin. And Tutin is a like a longer term view of you can't start him yet. But I agree with Jason of by the halfway point of the season, it's possible that both ETN and Tutin are very startable.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think Tutin can be started workload wise. But matchups are tough coming up with Houston, Kansas City two of the next three.

[Andy Holloway]

What's really difficult is that I don't have a lot of lower roster names at running back that I'm excited about. Making it all the more emphatic. Why Ramon Ray needs to be rostered because Trey Benson is, you know, he's getting work in Arizona. It's not a ton, but he looks good. He'd be another name.

[Mike Wright]

Six targets is pretty great.

[Andy Holloway]

The only other couple names that I even think on my list and you guys can name others that you might have interest in. You know, you want to see what Chris Rodriguez's involvement is in Washington in week three. Okay. That's interesting to me. He's not rostered.

[Jason Moore]

To me he's a big name. Chris Rodriguez. You know, obviously it's hard to go from healthy scratch. Absolutely. But what helps that is. How dare you?

[Mike Wright]

How dare you.

[Andy Holloway]

And they have, I mean it could be McNichols more involved than Rodriguez. And they have. Yeah, I mean that, that's a not rostered name.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, those two guys, Chris Rodriguez Jr. And Jeremy McNichols. I don't believe that they're going to give 100% of workload to Bill. In which case one of those guys will be relevant and they're widely available.

[Andy Holloway]

So Mike, do you have anybody else you want to surface?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, yes, I named. Look, it's the waiver wire. It's gross. But Tyler Algier is getting work. I know he looked particularly good this past week and then was kind of salting the game away against Minnesota. But main week one, he had just as many carries as Bijon Robinson. Week two, he had 16 carries. So he, he's not someone like, it'll be really, really high variance. But they do seem to trust him when they get inside the goal line. To much to the chagrin of all of us who have Bijan, you're like, oh, hey, look who's out there. Again, it's Tyler Algier. So it's a, it's a desperation play, but he at least gets volume and gets some carries near the goal line.

[Jason Moore]

Also, when we're looking at the insurance options, Blake Corm and Miles Sanders are guys who are widely available that should 100% be rostered.

[Andy Holloway]

You cannot make me roster Miles Sanders.

[Jason Moore]

I actually think he's one of the better insurance back options because should something happen to Javante, I think it would be just him.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. With the healthy scratch of Jaden Blue.

[Andy Holloway]

We also, you know, the big drop candidates, somehow they're rookies. I would let Caleb Johnson go.

[Mike Wright]

Personally, I would too.

[Andy Holloway]

But Harvey, Henderson, Hampton, they need to be rostered. Pacheco, I wouldn't cut because it's the same principle as Ramon Dre. A starting running back should not be cut. But I don't think you play him right now. It's just, look, players get hurt every week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And people are asking about Aaron Jones. That's another. You don't. You don't get rid of Aaron Jones even though he's going to miss this week.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's talk about some wide receiver pickups. We talked about the big game from, you know, one of the few rookies playing well right now, Alec IO manner, who was 4 for 56 and a touchdown. Still only rostered in 28% of leagues. I still believe he's a good pickup. Who's at the tippy top of your list this week, though? We have opportunities calling for Romeo Dobbs. With Jaden Reed being out the at.

[Mike Wright]

The tippy top, I don't know that there's a clear number one. The two guys that I would want the most are Romeo Dobbs and Troy Franklin, who Franklin has been. Yes, hit the button, Jason. Like six targets in week one. It's four for 44. That's, you know, whatever. But then you get the eight for 89, including a big play off. And that's off of nine targets like.

[Jason Moore]

83% of snaps, which is not what we've seen. That's his career high so far.

[Mike Wright]

It's. And Sean Payton. Sean Payton tricks us all the time. So next week could come out and it could be, oh, Marvin mims is playing 80% of the snaps. That's in the range of outcomes. So I'm not going like super hard after Troy Franklin, but he's just. Him and Romeo Dobbs are my top.

[Andy Holloway]

No, go ahead. Those are my top two guys at.

[Mike Wright]

The wide receiver position.

[Andy Holloway]

I think maybe it should be Wandale.

[Jason Moore]

Wandale is in the discussion with all these guys. He's playing a full allotment of snaps and getting a ton of target.

[Andy Holloway]

You know what his target paces. Take a guess. You're a good guesser. I'm going to guess 140, 153. Okay, terrible guess. No, Wandale, I mean, he's unrostered in most leagues. He got shamefully and I apologize, his name did not come up somehow in the studs on Monday and that is not okay for a player that was 8 for 142 and a touchdown. He was one of the best studs.

[Jason Moore]

The coolest of the entire week.

[Andy Holloway]

And you still have Russell and Russell will throw it.

[Jason Moore]

The really cool thing was they threw it to him this last game, at least on the other side of the.

[Mike Wright]

Line of three 20 plus yard receptions, which that matches his career total.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, because usually he just is a jitterbug behind the line of scrimmage and they give him the ball and he doesn't break a tackle and he gets a bunch of targets and receptions for no yards. Let the guy run down the field and then throw him the ball. It was great to see.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you realize, I mean, we did not intentionally watch the Giants last year and it was really just for our own health. Do you know what his numbers were last year?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you realize how many catches and.

[Mike Wright]

Targets he had the amount of receptions with, the amount of yards was Kyle. Kyle Kapoor came up with the stat.

[Andy Holloway]

Three catches.

[Mike Wright]

It was historically low.

[Andy Holloway]

40 targets, but 7.5 a catch, under 700 yards. It's insane though to have like anytime you have those kind of targets, like you have the opportunity of having a big game. And to me he's probably my number one pickup because of the passing volume I saw from Russell Wilson.

[Mike Wright]

I, you know, you can talk about Chargers is Next.

[Andy Holloway]

I like I.O. manor, sure. But it's like Cam Ward's going to have like they're going to manage his past attempts quite a bit.

[Jason Moore]

You know, I like I.O. manor a lot as a talent. I really don't like him as a pickup. Personally. I don't, I don't trust Cam or Cam Ward over the next six, seven weeks from like in Dynasty. I think it's a wonderful asset. But he scares me more than a lot of these other guys. I'd much rather have Wandell Robinson. Cedric Tillman is another name who's available in half of your leagues. I know he caught the most ridiculous touchdown. That was not to him, it was to a defender. He got lucky, but he's still on the field and getting a lot of targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the, you know, other names. You know, Mooney not heavily involved. I don't really like the passing game in Atlanta right now. So I thought I'd be like all over Mooney as a top pickup this week. I don't feel that way at all with Drake London and with, with Kyle Pitts and with how little they're letting. I mean, Michael Panicks was under 150 yards passing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. This past week. But week one, they were chucking it. So I don't know that we have a true definitive look at what they're going to look like.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the Falcons really feel like they're, we're still gathering data on them.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Donna Mooney, though, is heavily rostered. Would you drop him for Wondale? Would you drop him for Franklin? Would you drop him for Tillman? Would you drop him for Dobbs IO Manor? That's kind of like, I don't think I would. If you're making a transition for upside play, like, I, I, for some reason I don't see Mooney as that kind of upside.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think I would, I don't think I would make that play. I see him in the same tier as those guys and then you got to spend fab to go sideways to me.

[Mike Wright]

And then with Romeo Dobbs because of the Jaden Reed collarbone injury where he will be out for a very long time. Don Tavian Wicks hands team superstar. He had six targets. He was four for 44. He, I mean, if you remember how the flow of the game went this past week, Wicks got targets early and then his, his rate in the slot went up because of the Jane Reed injury. So while Dobbs is just. Dobbs is at the top because he's the most secure number one wide receiver that the Green Bay packers have. He's always out there. But Wicks is an upside play who is very available and he's going to be stepping into a more full time role.

[Jason Moore]

Is it possible that DeAndre Hopkins can get only two targets and a touchdown every single week this year?

[Mike Wright]

Just if you want to chase it, feel free.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's week one, two targets, two receptions, one touchdown. Week two, two targets, two receptions.

[Andy Holloway]

Good at the competitive catch universe. But that's his.

[Mike Wright]

But for that logic, why would you not go get devontez Walker, who I believe was, that's true. Was two for two.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. Like, why do you think he has three targets on the season and three touchdowns?

[Mike Wright]

No, I think.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Is it just the two? No, it's just two targets. This past week they were both touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you chasing Tyquan Thornton?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Well, let me ask you, Andy.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Is he getting a touchdown? This oracle.

[Mike Wright]

I need to know.

[Andy Holloway]

Nah, probably not.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

No, we'll wait. We'll wait and pick a different player this week or maybe just live on that for a few weeks. Stefan Diggs. Would you drop Diggs? I the hard part about them is.

[Jason Moore]

Like, no, I would drop Diggs for most of the players.

[Mike Wright]

Would you Really?

[Jason Moore]

I mean I.O.

[Andy Holloway]

Manor. Wandale.

[Jason Moore]

Wandale. I would.

[Mike Wright]

He went from 41% to 52%.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I'm holding on to Diggs.

[Mike Wright]

I think so too.

[Andy Holloway]

Booty only had one catch and one target.

[Mike Wright]

I have so in my league of record team, Stefan Diggs is like my most droppable player. You know, I mean I had higher draft capital so it was. It's harder to find someone to drop and I look at it, I just, I don't know. I was talking to Kyle about it of like is he just a guy that we're going to hold on to the whole year waiting for it to happen or is it like two weeks the snaps going up? That's very encouraging because it, it was going to take time. It always takes guys time to come back from an acl. The fact that he was ready week one was a bit surprising to me but it was only 41% of the snaps. With the work going up. I think I'll hold him for one more week. If we can get up into the 60s next week then, then you're going to be happy that you held on to him.

[Andy Holloway]

Some people asking about dropping Matthew Golden. I would not do that at all.

[Jason Moore]

No way.

[Andy Holloway]

This is again he's another one of the rookies that hasn't made a big splash yet. But opportunity is, is knocking for, for Green Bay right now. The passing game. They're taking lots of shots.

[Jason Moore]

They're taking shots to Golden. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. It's just. You got a. Matthew golden right now is looking like the Jameson Williams of the Packers. It's not going to be.

[Mike Wright]

It's low variance, low hit rate. I should say high variance.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And there is a weekly targets per outrun report by AJ Passman on the website. You can check that out. We will turn the page here. We'll look at tight ends. Juwan Johnson still not rostered in 50% of leagues.

[Mike Wright]

I tried to tell you people.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Unfortunately I play with Mike and most of my leagues so he is heavily rostered and.

[Andy Holloway]

By Mike.

[Jason Moore]

By Mike, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

He targets are what are encouraging and he could have caught two more of them and would have been seven for you know, 65 and a touchdown and we'd be talking even more about him.

[Jason Moore]

But 20 targets right now through two weeks.

[Mike Wright]

He is, he's my number one pickup of the week of all players. Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I don't, I don't blame you. The tight end position people are in need and he looks like a very High floor type of.

[Mike Wright]

With ceiling. I mean the, you know, week one he had a great stat line and he barely missed a touchdown right at the end of the game. It's the utilization that we're chasing here with Juwan Johnson because if he gets used like this, he will be a top five tight end at the end of the year.

[Andy Holloway]

I am very curious about what. Because Spencer Rattler, I would say, has played better than expected.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, he has.

[Andy Holloway]

But I am curious when they go on the road the next couple of weeks how that adjustment.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Takes place. They did get to play at home for the first two weeks. They go to Seattle, go to Buffalo. I'm a little, you know, it doesn't change anything about whether he's a top pickup. He is my top tight end pickup. He's number four on my list. I'd pick up Ramon, Dre, Tooten and Wanda ahead of him. But if you need a tight end, obviously he's the highest priority.

[Jason Moore]

If he's gone, the name that I want to throw out there is Jotavian Sanders. Jatavian Sanders is a second year, very athletic tight end who last year, if you don't remember how the season went, in his rookie season, he started to break out with Bryce Young. When Bryce Young came back, he had a stretch before he got. It was a neck injury about week 13. Yeah, week 13 he got his neck injured, but right up until that point he was breaking out, he was looking good, especially for a rookie. Gets injured, doesn't do much the rest of the time. And now look, Xavier Leggette.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to ask, is this for Jatavius?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't actually buy this past week for Sanders at all.

[Jason Moore]

So it's a question because you know.

[Andy Holloway]

What his past attempts were for Bryce Young. This was a garbage second half. So I. He still only played 60, get a lot of those. He still only played 60% of the snaps. I'm not saying that you can't bring the name up, of course, but I, I don't believe in this last week.

[Jason Moore]

The potential for a year to breakout that like they need. You know, coming into this season it seemed like they've got a lot of, they got a lot of weapons. They got Adam Thielen, they've got second year Xavier Leggette, they've got Tetterola McMillan. Now it's like, now it's like they've got Tet. There's, there's, he's, he's that dude and Hunter Renfro and.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

It's Like Renfro, and they need someone else to step up. And Jotavian is a. Is a very athletic, great.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's. It's a good. Whenever there's a young tight end that you can bring up that has opportunity to break out, it's a lot more exciting than the guy that I pick up ahead of him, Zach Ertz. Which is Zach Ertz.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Because I think Zach Ertz. Even with. If mobility for Jaden Daniels goes down, I think this is going to be the safety blanket for this team for weeks.

[Jason Moore]

But I think the worry is if there's potential that Jay Daniels doesn't play this week, obviously you're not going to.

[Andy Holloway]

Play Ertz with a no, but I like Hertz. I like Hertz. Right behind Joann Johnson, myself. Britton Strange is still in the mix. And, you know, if you want to drop Mark Andrews, Mike, what do you say to that person?

[Mike Wright]

You say, goodbye, Evan Ingram.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye, Colston Loveland.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

On the defensive side, Atlanta.

[Mike Wright]

And what are these teams doing? What are these. No, no, no, hold on. What are these teams doing that. Colston loveland, the number 10 overall pick, and then a few picks later is Tyler Warren, both elite tight end prospects. One guy, Tyler Warren, they just. They're like, right away, he was our first round pick. We should get him acclimated and see what he can do. And it's. It's. Is it Loveland?

[Jason Moore]

Mike, Mike, I was about to read.

[Andy Holloway]

That tweet to you, but then you made the strong counterpoint of Tyler Warren's involvement.

[Jason Moore]

Of all people on this planet, two weeks into 2025. Dude, you got to look at that dog meter. Okay? Because.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. Okay. And that's fair.

[Jason Moore]

Warren's got it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Oh, he does.

[Jason Moore]

My issue with Lovely coming in was like, he never broke. He's a good athlete, but he's never broke a tackle in his life.

[Mike Wright]

I'm a. Check the tape. Yeah, I will return. Go. Look, I'm going to tell you if he needs to go to the kitty kennel.

[Jason Moore]

Are you.

[Mike Wright]

He's being banished there right now by his.

[Andy Holloway]

Really. You know, Cole Comet's a really good player.

[Mike Wright]

He is.

[Andy Holloway]

The Colts have. They've got one other tight end. Let's see if we still have a drop for him.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

They still have Gigantor, but Tyler Warren is heavily involved. And they're playing, you know, they're playing much better football.

[Mike Wright]

And so it could be two weeks. Loveland was hurt during the off season process. Just. It's. It's frustrating to See a guy drafted ahead to Ben Johnson of Tyler Warren and they can't figure out how to get it going.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it's very possible. He's called a lot of plays for him and then Caleb Williams has just not listened.

[Mike Wright]

Very possible too.

[Andy Holloway]

Defensively, Atlanta plays Carolina. Atlanta is their defensive front right now. They were putting so much pressure on the quarterback in that game this past Sunday night and they play Carolina and Bryce Young is going to make mistakes. He's been making them for two weeks. Arizona had a defensive score against him, they had an interception. And Atlanta probably won't be dumb enough to play, what, 55 attempt prevent defense from the second quarter on. Tampa plays the jets and maybe a backup quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

That's.

[Andy Holloway]

There's.

[Mike Wright]

There. It's, it's tough in the streams for the quarterback, but there are some really good, there are some good DST options.

[Andy Holloway]

Seattle plays New Orleans and Spencer Rattler and they get to do it at home and their defense is pretty good. So Seattle looks mighty nice. Arizona, who's been a pretty good defense minus that second half of stupidity, they play San Francisco on Mac Jones. So I don't know how confident you feel there, but if you've, I'm okay with it. If you drafted Arizona and you've played him for two weeks, do you just keep riding or do you.

[Jason Moore]

You've been pretty happy, but I think you should always be looking every single week. Like, for instance, if you drafted Arizona and you're happy with them, they've, they've, they put up good points last week and the Falcons are sitting out there. I would much rather pick up the Falcons or just get more points for my team.

[Mike Wright]

This week I would play the Falcons against the Panthers, the Bucks against the jets, the Seahawks, Saints, Colts are playing Cam Ward and then the Chargers are. I'm not scared of Denver's offense as of right now, so I would, I'd be happy to play the Chargers against them.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the Chargers defense just looks outstanding in a divisional matchup. I'm, I'm fine with that. It is a very good week for streaming defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right, Mike said it. It's tough in the stream so we're gonna try. Anyways.

[Jason Moore]

Full stream ahead.

[Mike Wright]

Jason's got the top guy, so we'll let him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Start.

[Jason Moore]

I got two guys because it's tough. I'm going to throw a second one in there. But the main guy you're talking about that we.

[Mike Wright]

That we do not have listed.

[Jason Moore]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

The main guy is Daniel Jones. I mean, this is. It's a trap is what it feels like.

[Andy Holloway]

We have not. I will say this, we have recommended Daniel Jones in the streaming segment multiple times in the past.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. He has the wheels to always have a good fantasy day going on the road against Tennessee. It's a good matchup. The Colts are still the only team that haven't punted the ball through two games. And he's looking great. He's playing like he was drafted to be great at number six overall. Only Lamar is averaging a higher fantasy points per drop back. Right now they're three and a half point road favorites. He's the guy per jockstrap. Per jockstrap. Yeah. The other name I just want to throw out there because I look Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold played pretty well. He is on your waivers.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

Especially after a bad at home. A bad week one at home against the Saints.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, it's like that sounds pretty good.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Seven and a half point favorites.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Seven and a half point favorites. It's going to be a fine.

[Mike Wright]

I don't mind that one at all.

[Andy Holloway]

It's funny because Sam Darnold's my stream of the week, actually. Oh, no. I'm just like.

[Jason Moore]

I did not see that.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I. Mine is a bit of a. Mine is a bit of a. No, mine's not nasty. Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you're going with this one?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Because I look nobody. People drafted their Starters.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason brought up Justin Herbert last week in the streaming section. He is more rostered than he used to be, but he's sitting on people's benches and you're having to make decisions between Kyler Murray and Justin Herbert. You're having to make decisions between Drake May and Justin Herbert.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

This conversation. You're not making those decisions.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not making any decision when Justin Herbert's there. It's an auto decision. Dude, he is going to. He is awesome. He's going to. He is so good.

[Andy Holloway]

He's always been awesome and so good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, but he's got weapons.

[Andy Holloway]

That's his whole career. He's been awesome and so good.

[Jason Moore]

Got weapons, man. He's. Oh, I love him.

[Andy Holloway]

They're number one in pass rate over expectation through two weeks. This is the he's your starter conversation and I think that that matters because if you pick them up, you're still making a streaming decision. Even if he's rostered. You still have to decide over Kyler. You still have to decide over those other players, Daniel Jones, those other guys that you have on your roster. So to me, I want to endorse Justin Herbert as. Hey, the way the offense is running, this is not a fluky multi touchdown performance. This is a pattern and a way the offense is functioning. So the bonus nasty would be Mac Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there we go.

[Andy Holloway]

Mac Jones had a really good week. And I'm going to tell you, he didn't look like he knew what the game of football, the rules or how to play through the first quarter. Like he looked confused and scared. Like if you put a small child in the pocket at quarterback, he looked that way. He looked skittish and weird. And then all of a sudden you look up and Mac Jones is delivering the ball to the corner of the end zone to Christian McCaffrey, across the middle to Juwan Jennings. So unfortunately he's just.

[Mike Wright]

And I'll throw in. Arizona's secondary got depleted.

[Jason Moore]

Not just their secondary, Their. Their defensive line got injured too. They. They lost. I was going to say part of the end of the game.

[Mike Wright]

Four guys.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Part of the end of the game against the Carolina Panthers was they played vanilla, like almost prevent defense. And it was awful. But part of it was they lost like four. Four starting defensive players during that game.

[Andy Holloway]

3. 39 pass attempts for Mac Jones. 279 yards and three touchdowns and no picks. And so he did fumble twice. That explains the dancing in the pocket. But. But he has an option.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's Keep it going, Carson Wentz.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, baby.

[Mike Wright]

Carson. We are so freaking wenz.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not going to do it. Okay, look, this is that offensive line.

[Mike Wright]

This is for which. Yeah, there was a report that their left tackle is probably not going to be back. This is just. Look, this is. I told you.

[Andy Holloway]

It's really Underpants situation.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I don't have my buttons.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Where's my button?

[Jason Moore]

You don't have your buttons.

[Mike Wright]

The highest level. Give me the unobtainium, please, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

To have his underpants at all times.

[Andy Holloway]

Seriously. That would be really important for us. That's sitting near.

[Mike Wright]

That's a failure on my part.

[Andy Holloway]

I will.

[Mike Wright]

Can you find it?

[Andy Holloway]

I will get that fixed.

[Mike Wright]

All right. I'll be talking.

[Andy Holloway]

Get it fixed or hit the button.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, Jeremy. Hit it. Hit it, Jeremy.

[Mike Wright]

I don't have it in my board.

[Jason Moore]

Either, but I'll get it.

[Andy Holloway]

Just keep talking. All the underpants are missing.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

Well, he. He. He's heard what I said about.

[Jason Moore]

Which ones did you want?

[Mike Wright]

The highest level.

[Jason Moore]

Put them on. Thank you. Unobtainium underpants.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Forgot about the graphic. I'm not sure I wanted that as much as I thought I did this.

[Mike Wright]

Because the whole section is about streaming. I'm trying to find someone who you could play off your waiver wire because things went bad for you or you're in a deep league. Carson Wentz, Kevin O', Connell, the first two stars for JJ McCarthy have not been good. Historically, everyone else that Kevin O' Connell has put out there has produced. And the great news, we are playing against the Cincinnati Bengals defense. So they have allowed the fifth most passing yards per game. And Carson Wentz, he can run a little bit, so we got a little bit of that cheat code built in. Again, this is the nastiest of the nasty play, but the peripherals make sense to me that Carson Wentz can come in here and give you 252 and maybe 30 on the ground.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. The underpants, they're on. Would you. Would you just drop Burrow McCarthy, Purdy. None of them really feel like must hold context.

[Jason Moore]

Of course, Purdy and McCarthy were already streamers. Those were guys where if you need to drop them to pick someone up, you can. They're injured, so I'm fine dropping them. Joe Burrow. I. You almost. You basically have to drop him. But that is so sad.

[Mike Wright]

It is very sad. I honest, I'd probably put him into my IR until I'm forced to. That I got other players that he's like. I Have to hold these players. I'll see you later, Joe Burrow. I just.

[Andy Holloway]

I traded Burrow last week and I genuinely feel bad.

[Jason Moore]

You are the fantasy reaper in mass because it wasn't just Burrow. It was the Burrow Chase Stack and you got paid. And while Chase is not going to.

[Andy Holloway]

Disappear, I feel bad.

[Jason Moore]

He's not going to disappear. You don't feel bad? Not going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I feel good as well.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But I feel a little bad.

[Jason Moore]

You're putting on a show. This is a facade. We see right through you.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't believe in that moment. I feel bad and lucky.

[Mike Wright]

I would.

[Jason Moore]

That's usually when.

[Andy Holloway]

First time I've been lucky before, you.

[Mike Wright]

Know, first time I've ever been in the. In the Bulls documentary. In the Thornton one, the Bulls documentary where the. The old guy is playing the. The throw the coin when he's playing against Jordan. Yeah. That's how you feel bad like that. Sorry. Your problem, not mine.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's the other person was.

[Jason Moore]

I win.

[Andy Holloway]

They were laboring for so long on whether they'd accept that trade and they wanted to pull the trigger. They're like, oh, gosh, Burrow, Chase. Hey, things happen.

[Mike Wright]

You go risky maneuvers. I mean, you play to win. I love that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep. Yeah. Yeah, that's.

[Mike Wright]

But I don't feel bad for his team.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's take a couple minutes here and let's jump into the mailbag, which. I have a button for that too. I know I do.

[Mike Wright]

Buttons are everywhere.

[Jason Moore]

Mailbag.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe Everything's in storage. All the underpants there, are they in, like digital bureau?

[Mike Wright]

He heard many mothballs. He heard me talking about just how the pants store is out of business. But, Jeremy, the underpants store is very much in business.

[Jason Moore]

It's even more important when the pants store is out of.

[Mike Wright]

We aren't Winnie the Pooh in this.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

This is no Donald Duck over here.

[Mike Wright]

My apologies to you and the foot clan. We're just. We're free.

[Andy Holloway]

We're free from the shining cupboards. From the pants.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. But we are still hiding our street legal.

[Andy Holloway]

Street legal, as Mike said.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, if you have a question for the show, go to the website, the fantasy footballers.com. you can also dial our voicemail hotline, 302464, TFFB. We're going to answer a few questions here. Caleb in Wisconsin said Matthew golden was dropped in my league. How much fab would you spend to pick him up? I have the receiver depth for him to sit on my bench until he breaks out, let's say a number out of 100. Fab. At the same time and see if we're in agreement.

[Jason Moore]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Three, two, one.

[Mike Wright]

21.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you both went 20, 21. I went 10.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think in that range, 10 to 21.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. A 5 to 10 defense, but we could go big.

[Jason Moore]

Fab. No. You know, this is a rookie who had such high draft capital on a good offense with injuries and opportunity around him. You've got to take the shot on those type of players. It might not work, but there's too many flags that you aim for, too many check boxes for you to just ignore it.

[Andy Holloway]

Hags in Pentaluma, California.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, never sounds darn near like a bonjour. That is. There's no way that's in California.

[Andy Holloway]

I've never heard of that. Is now the right time to trade away Javante Williams? If so, what would you try to get for him? I. It did pop into my head when we were talking about the rookies, the idea of crafting and you need more than the two pieces because you wouldn't want to draw so much attention to it. But you. That's how I think about the trade. Right. But we talked about Genti.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, look, Javante's in there and then.

[Andy Holloway]

But Javante is like the number two running back on the season. Yeah. And Genti is your big frustration player. If you could work a few other pieces in there, some picks and a.

[Jason Moore]

Couple players, I wonder, you could do it. There are certainly leagues where you could trade. Not every league, but you could trade Javante for Hampton.

[Andy Holloway]

What are the odds, though, that Javante, because of the success so far, the lack of depth behind him, the. The fact he's been so, so good is what's the chances he ends the top 10 running back and we're sitting here going, well, that was dumb.

[Jason Moore]

I think there is a. Certainly a greater than 0% chance that he ends the year, the whole year as very, very successful. I would caution one thing, which is over the next six weeks, their center is injured. And that is a big deal for a guy who Javante has looked pretty good. He's looked strong, but he gets what's given to him. He's not really like a creator on his own type of guy. So if that's, you know, this seems like the sell high moment. But also, hear what I am saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, okay, hold on.

[Jason Moore]

Sell high. Don't just be like, I can get something for Javante. You have something for Javante, you have value. So if you're Going to sell him. Sell him high.

[Andy Holloway]

Hear what I am saying? Can we bring that into the fold? Would you trade Chase Brown for Kenneth Walker Naps in Utah. Naps has a question for us. Chase Brown for Ken Bone Walker.

[Mike Wright]

No, it's.

[Andy Holloway]

I was wondering where you would be on a buy of Ken Bone Walker.

[Mike Wright]

Right now because there's going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

The sell high people. Sure.

[Mike Wright]

I think I'm Ken Walker. My value on him is basically like his ADP where he was drafted. So I think he is net neutral. Chase Brown did take a hit in value because of Burrow, but he still was getting all the work and the. I think Chase Brown will be okay. He has juice and he's getting everything.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the. You know, I. The Bengals aren't. The Bengals are not going to go to zero here. They have a lot of skill position players. Jamar, Chase T. Higgins, Chase Brown. They're going to make Jake Browning also.

[Andy Holloway]

I. You will disagree. They're well coached. Very well coached.

[Mike Wright]

Right, the Bengals.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's. Yeah. Right. I do disagree.

[Andy Holloway]

The Bengals are very well coached. Jake Browning's success in the past shows me that too.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And Jake Browning is a decent backup option. So Chase Brown's not, you know, going to become some irrelevant back. I did try to make a couple trade offers. You'd be happy for Ken Bone after week one, but I didn't get him to go through.

[Andy Holloway]

They must have been real bad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, well, I was hoping that Ken Bones not playing football and being bad at it week one was more impactful.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, James G. This question probably going to get answered by Jason as well. I'm seriously considering trading AJ Brown for a Mecca Buka Redraft league. Is this a dumb trade on my part? Please advise and I want to know the answer.

[Mike Wright]

I will start it by saying I got a tweet this morning of someone saying so I was just offered Justin Jefferson for a Mecca Ibuka and like, is it weird that I'm hesitating? Hesitating? And I'm like, it's probably not that.

[Andy Holloway]

Weird with the quarterback situation.

[Mike Wright]

It's not weird that you're hesitating. I would still immediately go do it big because Abuka's got three touchdowns. I mean he did. He was not very involved.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

And like I said, an illegal touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Someone was sweating out a. Yeah. And what happened on it? I didn't see it.

[Mike Wright]

The offensive lineman goes out to block. Oh, I whiffs the block but clearly throws the leg to Trip and like so much that when they came back from commercial, they're like, they go to the rules expert and like, yeah, that was a trip that should have been called, man.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But I would say so did Jason. Would you trade A.J. brown?

[Jason Moore]

I love a Mecca Buka. He's my guy. He's playing 93% of snaps. He's still only about 20% of the target share, which is. I would, I would hope he was more like 25% target share, 29 yards last week. I love him. I think he's good. I like the passing attack, but he is not AJ Brown. I would still rather have the AJ Brown side. So if you could trade a buka for A.J. brown.

[Andy Holloway]

What did you just say, Al?

[Mike Wright]

I bet you could.

[Andy Holloway]

I said if I had a Buka, I don't think I could trade him right now for A.J.

[Mike Wright]

Brown. That's the hard part about trade, especially if you're just doing a one for one positional trade. That there will be a winner and a loser of the trade.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

And the emotional attachment to the success.

[Andy Holloway]

That he's had so far this season is just hard.

[Mike Wright]

Like I said, people are hesitating to trade just. Or to get Justin Jackson.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean, think about this. There are, you know, that question absolutely would have come up two weeks into Brian Thomas Jr. Last year. Would you trade Brian Thomas Jr. For A.J. brown last year? I mean, I think 100% of people would say that would have been a good decision in last year's instance. It would not have been, would have been better to have Brian Thomas Jr.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably better to have Malik neighbors. You know, there are. I think the biggest question for me with Abuka is, you know, if you're not liking the target share now, now he's going to grow, he's going to become, you know, more connected with Baker, but you will get Godwin back, but you will get Worfs back as well. And I think that's going to help this offense a lot. Like there, there are people worried about Bucky and I'm like, to me that's crazy because. Because of Rashad White having a good game and scoring and, and you know, look, Tristan Worst is going to make a humongous difference in this offense. Huge. And it could be as soon as next week. So that's going to help them altogether if I, you know, I'm certainly a believer in Baker as well with those weapons coming back. So if there's a chance to go get Baker, I would do it. All right. That is going to do it. For today's show, we have unsolved Mysteries tomorrow and a Thursday night preview starts of the week matchup previews coming up. And a reminder, join the foot.com for the community Support the show. Get access to premium tools like the waiver wire tool inside of the Ultimate Dashboard. More upgrades happening each and every week by the way, in the app and on the web, so take advantage of them. We'll catch you tomorrow.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.

[Mike Wright]

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