Week 4 Matchups + In-or-Out, Turf Toe Woes

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary Episode: Week 4 Matchups + In-or-Out, Turf Toe Woes
Release Date: September 27, 2019
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Overview

In this engaging Week 4 episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright delve deep into the latest NFL matchups, player performances, injury updates, and provide strategic fantasy football advice. The episode is structured around comprehensive matchup analyses, the "In-or-Out" segment addressing key player injuries, and special segments like "Ballers on a Budget" and "Foot Clan Friday." Notably, the podcast balances insightful analysis with entertaining banter, making it invaluable for both seasoned fantasy players and newcomers.

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Matchup Analysis

Green Bay Packers vs. Philadelphia Eagles

• Defensive Breakdown: The Packers' defense showed mixed results, struggling against the run while maintaining Carson Wentz's yardage under 200 yards. Mike Wright remarked at [01:33] that "it’s an incomplete picture to just look at the points they gave up."

• Aaron Rodgers’ Performance: Rodgers had a strong game with a career-high 422 passing yards and two touchdowns but faced challenges due to creative play-calling. Jason Moore suggested betting the over on Rodgers' grimacing expressions, indicating a high level of engagement and frustration with the game’s proceedings:

  Jason Moore [02:10]: "If there were prop bets for like over, under and they set a line. How many grimaces a game?"

• Devonte Adams’ Injury: Adams delivered a monstrous performance with 180 yards but suffered a turf toe injury, raising concerns about his availability in upcoming weeks. Jason Moore forecasted:

  Jason Moore [07:50]: "They have a long week being the Thursday night game, but I think you have to expect him to miss a couple of weeks."

Dallas Cowboys vs. New Orleans Saints

• Dak Prescott vs. Teddy Bridgewater: The Saints' defense, particularly against quarterbacks, posed a significant challenge. Jason Moore highlighted the Saints' poor performance against QBs:

  Jason Moore [50:42]: "The most surprising, probably the most surprising stat I’ve heard in a long time… the Saints against the quarterback."

• Amari Cooper’s Consistency: Cooper remains a reliable target for Prescott, benefiting from the Saints' weak pass defense. Andy Holloway emphasized:

  Andy Holloway [49:51]: "Amari Cooper has been extremely consistent."

Seattle Seahawks vs. Arizona Cardinals

• Russell Wilson vs. Kyler Murray: Wilson's efficiency and the Cardinals' tendency to fall behind create a favorable matchup for Seahawks' quarterback. Jason Moore noted:

  Jason Moore [36:41]: "I think Russell Wilson's high end finish could be the product of just super efficiency with some Disney touchdowns."

Cincinnati Bengals vs. Pittsburgh Steelers

• Andy Dalton’s Struggles: Dalton’s poor performance in primetime games was a focal point, with Jason Moore citing his disappointing Monday Night Football record:

  Jason Moore [55:40]: "Since 2011, Andy Dalton in primetime games is 6 and 15, 2 and 5 on Monday Night Football."

• Tyler Boyd vs. John Ross: Both receivers present viable options against the Steelers’ defense, with Mike Wright favoring Boyd for his consistency:

  Mike Wright [54:29]: "I think that, he is an excellent streaming quarterback this week if you're up against it."

Injury Updates: In-or-Out Segment

The "In-or-Out" segment focused on key player injuries affecting fantasy lineups:

• Rashad Penny: Returned to limited practice, but Jason Moore deemed him "in" for the upcoming game.

• Damian Williams: Knee injury ruled him "out" as he missed crucial practice days.

• Justin Jackson: Calf injury added uncertainty. Mike Wright opted to play him, anticipating Melvin Gordon's inactivity.

• Devonte Adams: Diagnosed with turf toe, expected to miss at least two weeks. Jason Moore suggested relying on Geronimo and MVS as alternatives.

• Chris Godwin & Ty Hilton: Godwin's status as a game-day decision paired with Hilton's ongoing quad injury kept Andy Holloway cautious:

  Andy Holloway [15:19]: "Chris Conley with the knee injury limited Thursday."

Fantasy Forecast

Player Recommendations and Strategies

• Aaron Rodgers: Despite a solid performance, potential fumbles and reduced defensive pressure warrant careful consideration. Andy Holloway noted Rodgers' ground yards:

  Andy Holloway [03:50]: "Fantasy wise, Rodgers added to his stat line with 46 yards on the ground."

• Matt Ryan vs. Titans Defense: Matt Ryan remains a must-start due to his strong home performance and track record. Jason Moore stated:

  Jason Moore [22:26]: "I mean, at home, Matt Ryan is pretty much a weekly start."

• Daniel Jones vs. Redskins: Jones presents a promising streaming quarterback option due to Washington's poor defense against QBs. Jason Moore highlighted Jones' rushing ability:

  Jason Moore [28:27]: "He rushed a lot in college and so far, Week 1 two rushing touchdowns, plenty of yards on the ground."

• Dalvin Cook vs. Bears Defense: Cook remains the top RB despite a tough matchup. Jason Moore expressed confidence in his continued dominance:

  Jason Moore [40:42]: "They both the quarterbacks would also like to win with defense."

• Tyler Boyd vs. Steelers: Boyd is favored over Ross due to his high target share and consistent performance. Jason Moore concurred:

  Jason Moore [55:10]: "Yeah, that story got. I mean, since 2011, Andy Dalton in primetime games is 6 and 15..."

Strategic Insights

• Red Zone Playcalling: Emphasis on utilizing players like Jordan Howard in the red zone due to trust in the play-calling:

  Jason Moore [05:12]: "There's more trust there."

• Balancing Studs and Value Picks: Balancing high-performing studs with value picks like Hollywood Brown and Wayne Gallman in DFS lineups was advised to maximize point potential without overspending.

Special Segments

Ballers on a Budget

Presented by FanDuel Yarn, this segment highlights undervalued players poised to outperform their cost in daily fantasy sports (DFS). Key recommendations included:

• Wayne Gallman ($5,900): Inheriting Saquon Barkley's role, Gallman presents a high-upside option.

• Hollywood Brown ($5,700): With 27 targets this season, Brown offers significant value against Cleveland.

Foot Clan Friday

A weekly contest segment where listeners can win prizes by participating in contests like "rick and Mor TDs." Andy Holloway encouraged listeners to join the Foot Clan community:

Andy Holloway [10:18]: "All right, it's Friday. As we head into the weekend, each and every Friday, we want to say thank you to those of you that support this independent podcast."

Injury Reports and Updates

• Chris Godwin: Returned to practice but remains a game-day decision.

• Ty Hilton: Continues to deal with a quad injury, keeping him "out" for the game.

• Julian Edelman: Chest injury status pending but expected to interfere with his performance.

Andy Holloway emphasized the importance of staying updated with injury reports:

Andy Holloway [17:01]: "Good luck this weekend. Good luck on Sunday."

Conclusion

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast provided listeners with a thorough breakdown of Week 4 NFL matchups, strategic fantasy football advice, and timely updates on player injuries. The hosts effectively balanced analytical insights with relatable commentary, ensuring that fantasy managers are well-equipped to make informed decisions for their lineups. Special segments like "Ballers on a Budget" and "Foot Clan Friday" added an interactive and value-driven dimension to the show, fostering a strong sense of community among listeners.

For detailed matchup analyses, injury updates, and strategic advice, tuning into the Fantasy Footballers Podcast remains an essential resource for fantasy football enthusiasts.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Jason Moore [02:10]: "If there were prop bets for like over, under and they set a line. How many grimaces a game?"

• Jason Moore [05:12]: "There's more trust there."

• Jason Moore [07:50]: "They have a long week being the Thursday night game, but I think you have to expect him to miss a couple of weeks."

• Jason Moore [22:26]: "I mean, at home, Matt Ryan is pretty much a weekly start."

• Jason Moore [28:27]: "He rushed a lot in college and so far, Week 1 two rushing touchdowns, plenty of yards on the ground."

• Jason Moore [36:41]: "I think Russell Wilson's high end finish could be the product of just super efficiency with some Disney touchdowns."

• Jason Moore [50:42]: "The most surprising, probably the most surprising stat I’ve heard in a long time… the Saints against the quarterback."

• Jason Moore [55:10]: "Since 2011, Andy Dalton in primetime games is 6 and 15, 2 and 5 on Monday Night Football."

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This summary was generated based on the transcript provided and aims to capture the essence of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast episode for those who haven't listened.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Foreign to the Fantasy Footballers podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, welcome in. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers once again. We got a ballgame last night.

[Mike Wright]

It was a good one.

[Andy Holloway]

Definitely hit the over. Definitely dead. I think we got to see that Green Bay packers defense finally. Well, I guess they did two things. Yeah, they broke, they had been a bin not break defense. If you look at the statistics about them. They had been a defense that could stop you once you got into the red zone. That didn't really happen, but limited Carson Wentz's total yardage to, you know, under, what is it? Under 200 yards.

[Jason Moore]

That's right. They couldn't stop the run at all.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I would say it's, it's an incomplete picture to just look at the. What the points they gave up because the Eagles were given short fields multiple times. You had, Miles Sanders had a massive run on a kickoff return that turned into an easy score. Aaron Rodgers had a fumble on their side of the field.

[Andy Holloway]

So I bet he grimaced afterwards.

[Mike Wright]

I'm sure he did. And he looked at, he looked at someone and said why is this your fault?

[Jason Moore]

If there were prop bets for like over, under and they set a line. How many grimaces a game?

[Andy Holloway]

Aaron Rodgers Camera zooms in to the.

[Jason Moore]

Grimace I would 100% of the time.

[Andy Holloway]

Bet the over regardless of the line.

[Jason Moore]

Doesn't matter.

[Mike Wright]

But if you played Aaron Rodgers, oh yeah, you were not grimacing. Finally we got a, we got a nice quarterback, a nice fantasy quarterback performance from Aaron Rodgers. Devonte Adams with the massive, massive bounce.

[Jason Moore]

Back week eight for 156 in the first half.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, they did not seem interested in playing defense on him and there was creative play calling, getting him into space to use his legs and run.

[Mike Wright]

But I hope you enjoyed those 180 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a career high for him, by the way, in total yardage in a game. But then he went down and you have to wonder if the end of this game is different multiple goal line opportunities on two separate drives. It might devonte Adams.

[Mike Wright]

It might have been different, but I'm throwing. The probability it was would have been the same with that play calling.

[Jason Moore]

It was bad with that play calling meaning throwing for it like four times in a row on the goal line. Would have been very different if you had devonte Adams for four passing plays.

[Andy Holloway]

It actually reminded me of the end of the. It was exactly the same as the end of the Cleveland Browns game where you had four opportunities at the goal line. They were all passing plays. Ill advised throw by Rogers.

[Mike Wright]

Right. I'm off.

[Andy Holloway]

Reminded me of the Super Bowl.

[Mike Wright]

I'm all for trickery and trying to catch a defense off guard for throw by throwing on the goal line sometimes. But when you have that many opportunities on the one, it's a yard run the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy wise, Rodgers added to his stat line with 46 yards on the ground. He had 422 through the air. Two touchdowns, one interception, one fumble. It was a pretty good performance from Rogers. It was, you know, two touchdowns. You still didn't see that explosion. But devonte Adams did most of the work in the passing game. Jimmy Graham was resurrected and allowed to play in this one. Yep, six for 61 and a touchdown. Allison had a touchdown in this one. MVS was a fantasy disappointment. 3 for 47. Seemed to be off the field in strange circumstances. Where you expected him out there. I don't know if he was dealing with something. Zach Ertz, seven catches on the Eagle side. Alshon, three for 38 and a touchdown. Frequently targeted. I think that was what stood out to me. Nine targets. Only caught three of them but clearly the first, second, third read well. Him and Hertz.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Was pretty much the entire offense in terms of passing targets. The next highest targeted player was Jordan Howard.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, weird.

[Andy Holloway]

You never want that as part of your in game bullet points.

[Jason Moore]

You know how they do. You know how they do. Like trickery, right? Like, oh, we're going to line up in jumbo, but then we're throwing to a tight. That's what you do when you run Jordan Howard out to a screen. They go, oh, they're not going to go to. They would never throw to Jordan Howard.

[Andy Holloway]

And then he had a receiving touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

To Jordan Howard's credit, they ran that Kansas City Chiefs wheel route and Howard secured the ball and had a nice touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Jordan Howard balled out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

15 for 87, 5.8 per carry on the ground, two touchdowns. Do you, you know I have a dynasty team with Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard Obviously I didn't play Jordan Howard last night, of course, and he had 33 fantasy points. What do you do moving forward with that backfield? That seemed like, I guess the one saving grace here is we had two guys receive all the carries. You know, Sprouls didn't receive any of the carries. So what do you do? Who would you start next week?

[Jason Moore]

Look, now that Jordan Howard is a little bit more involved in the passing game, every time they got to the red zone, it seemed like it was Jordan Howard's job. There's more trust there. Obviously you've got the fumbling issue of last week with Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard's a big bruising back. I mean, you saw on his last touchdown run, it was. He took a huge hit there at the one yard line, bounced back and got in the end zone. So I don't see them going away from Jordan Howard at the goal line. And if you've got the touchdown upside with Howard, I think you got to start leaning that direction.

[Mike Wright]

I think it looked like to me it was. They went hot. They were going hot hand like Howard was the better player last night. Yes, Miles Sanders saved his day. He ripped off a big run and he also had the, you know, the big special teams return. But that doesn't count for most fantasy leagues. It looked like a hot hand for Jordan Howard, so they just kept going to him. I expect it will still be even. However, Jason is correct. Red zone and goal line work. That's Jordan Howard. Until further notice.

[Andy Holloway]

Nelson Aguilar cannot drop anything when he's not targeted.

[Mike Wright]

It's that meme like you can't drop it if they don't throw it to you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So he was the. He was a complete goose last night. If you decided to roll him out there over Jeffrey or something of that nature. It didn't work out. Now, Adams, the big news circling back there as we get into our in and out segment and the rest of this show which has. We'll have fantasy forecasts the rest of the matchups. I'm going to sneak an upset of the weekend there. We've got ballers on a budget, but Devonte Adams, the big news is he departed with the toe injury, had the monstrous 10 for 15. 10 of 15 targets, 180 yards. He diagnosed himself with turf toe. Pro football Doc feared turf toe. He couldn't put his shoe on after the game. What are we expecting from Devonte Adams over the next few weeks?

[Jason Moore]

They have a long week being the Thursday night game, but I think you have to expect him to miss a couple of weeks. I don't think he's going to be back Sunday. You can hope he's back the following Sunday, but I think it's more realistic that the Sunday after that. So if he misses the next two weeks, I think that both Geronimo and MVS become playable assets. I expect Geronimo, Allison to actually have the bigger uptick in a role as kind of a more sure thing with Rogers long term. He's played with them, he knows them. MBS is really talented, but he doesn't, he doesn't seem to be in sync with Aaron Rodgers. You know, if he gets 10, 11 targets, I don't, I don't think it's going to be, you know, I feel like those games is where he catches four or five of those targets. He's. He's more of a secondary option rather than the primary guy.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm most excited in Adam's absence on actually being able to count on Jimmy Graham as a tight end.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think that's a great point.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I think we saw as soon as Adams went off the field, it was, you know, 11 yard pass to Jimmy Graham, 10 yard pass to Jimmy Graham. That was the surprise, you know, the, the impressive thing to me, I think you downgrade Rogers. Obviously they have their upcoming schedule is.

[Mike Wright]

At Dallas next week and then a juicy matchup at home with the Detroit Lions.

[Andy Holloway]

You had a major injury to Jamal Williams.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Taking him off the field to finish that game up with the running backs. Aaron Jones did absolutely nothing with his opportunity. He hasn't been able to run the ball effectively. This team hasn't been able to run the ball effectively at all through the entire season. So Rogers is having to do more. He threw the ball to Jones on several occasions. Hopefully Jamal Williams will be okay. That was a scary situation for him and Maddox in this game. Two players stretchered off. That was, that was not fun. So right now it looks like Aaron Jones is going to be the guy moving forward. But efficiency has been a huge problem.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, huge. I mean, you're talking under to a carry. And it wasn't just.

[Andy Holloway]

Is this a malafleur problem in terms of they could run the ball?

[Mike Wright]

I believe that.

[Andy Holloway]

It just doesn't seem like he's ever in a position. Like a lot of these runs were not his fault. A lot of these runs were two or three guys in the backfield. Good defensive front for the Eagles. I think that, you know, didn't help anything, but you would have expected more than 21 yards rushing in a game where Jamal Williams left and Aaron Jones is the only player in town.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, it's Friday.

[Jason Moore]

Foot Clan Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

As we head into the weekend, each and every Friday, we want to say thank you to those of you that support this independent [e-mail] the official Foot Clan community. And today, this fine Friday, we give rick and Mor TDs.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, I see what he did there.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the winner this week. Foot Clan Friday. Winner of a $55 gift card to shopballers.com thank you for supporting the show. We appreciate you. You can find that [e-mail] you can follow us on Twitter @the ffballers. You can find us on YouTube. YouTube.com the fantasy footballers. We're going to be paying out a number of water bets today. That video will show up tomorrow on the YouTube. We have week two and week three to pay out. Mike, you and I had that McCall Hardman John Ross bet from week two. Both players balled out. You beat me, you're going to water me. Today we had a 77 yard JuJu Smith Schuster bet in week three. He had 81 yards and you beat me again. These are narrow wins. They hurt more that way. I'd rather be blown out like Jason.

[Mike Wright]

Were they narrow? They were. By the skin of my team with a John Ross garbage TD and then that 76 yard juju TD.

[Jason Moore]

Now, when you say blown out like Jason, you mean blown out like Jason did to you with the Dolphins doubling up that over under.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I volunteered to take two waters for the Patriots Miami game where I said that Miami would, I hope you brought a wetsuit. I took the really outlandish approach that they might not lose by 20.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And they lost by 40. And then I, like you, use the mocking voice.

[Mike Wright]

They lost by 40. So it was not a smart move to say they would lose by fewer than 20.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct. It's just a little unnatural to be like, yeah, I think they might be able to stay within 20 and then feel like the idiot. But they're the Dolphins, so I should have known better. And then, Mike, I beat you with the. I'm going to water you for the Eric Ebron top 12 tight end week two bet. So we'll have a number of those. We'll film them today. It'll be fun. It'll be on YouTube.com fantasy footballers tomorrow. Let's go ahead and do some in and out.

[Jason Moore]

What's it going to be, McFly?

[Mike Wright]

Are you in or out?

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Lots of injury news. Notes, reports, running back start there.

[Mike Wright]

Rashad Penny, he returned to practice, so I would expect him to play.

[Andy Holloway]

He returned to a limited practice.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go. No, I think he's out.

[Jason Moore]

I think he's going to play. This was the expectation from the previous Sunday. They expected him to. This is the timetable that I think they set for him to come back on this Thursday. So I'm going to say he's in.

[Andy Holloway]

Damian Williams, the knee injury, didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday. In or out?

[Mike Wright]

Out.

[Jason Moore]

Out. Justin Sadie been full.

[Mike Wright]

He's a full goal for your roster.

[Andy Holloway]

Justin Jackson, calf injury added to the injury report. We don't know a lot, but what do you think, in or out for Justin Jackson?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a West coast practice. We don't have that yet.

[Mike Wright]

And it's one of those late injuries like Rashad Penny was a. He returned this. Justin Jackson's now added to the injury report late. Is this the. The window that Melvin Gordon sneaks in and gets like eight touches?

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to say no. I think Justin Jackson plays. Gordon's inactive.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Royce Freeman, I'll say he's in. Devin Singletary practice again today, Thursday and Friday. Do you think he plays if he's practicing?

[Jason Moore]

I think he'll be out there. But I'm with you, Mike. That's surprising. And I would be fearful to play him.

[Andy Holloway]

I would be trying not to practice if I was Devin Singletary with this Patriots matchup. No, it's nice to see him return quicker than we expected after seeing the injury on the field. Rex Burkhead, Ltd. On Thursday. In or out.

[Mike Wright]

In.

[Andy Holloway]

In and playing against Buffalo. What would you do?

[Mike Wright]

Would I play him?

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Edo Smith resume practicing on Thursday. Should be in there to disrupt your. Devonta Freeman, wide receivers. Ty Hilton with the quad injury, didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday.

[Jason Moore]

In or out, man, that's tough because he's missed a lot of practices and still plays.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm gonna say in. I think he's gonna play.

[Mike Wright]

I think he will play, too. But it's. It's. Everything's today's price.

[Jason Moore]

Do you play him if he's in?

[Andy Holloway]

I think you have to.

[Jason Moore]

I do. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

At this point, Julian, and hopefully he's very respectful of your fantasy team the way Devonte Adams was going for a career high in yardage before getting injured.

[Mike Wright]

In the way that Hilton did last.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

He is.

[Mike Wright]

He's a respectful man.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course.

[Mike Wright]

Fine, upstanding.

[Andy Holloway]

Plus, he's got a citizen. He's got a touchdown streak.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Julian Edelman with the chest injury in or out in Amari Cooper in.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike Williams with the back remain sideline on Thursday. Seems similar to the week before. Different injury but we did see him active.

[Mike Wright]

I believe he will play.

[Jason Moore]

But caution is it a little concerning that this week? It's the back issue which was the.

[Andy Holloway]

Major issue last season from what I understand it was. It's not related to that.

[Jason Moore]

So just same body part, different injury, correct.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's concerning that he's on the injury report every week. That doesn't I don't like that. So I don't mind people pivoting away from what seems like an opportunistic matchup to go with somebody you know is going to be out there. Chris Godwin with the hip. He missed practice Wednesday. Thursday. Fortunately he did return to practice today.

[Mike Wright]

So in. Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Calvin Ridley in Terry McLaurin added to the Redskins injury report.

[Jason Moore]

This one's scary.

[Mike Wright]

You could say very nice.

[Jason Moore]

You look when a guy's added to the injury port midweek, it's more likely he's going to miss. But you just have to wait for the last practice report to know.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll let you know it's a hamstring injury and we'll let you know if we hear anything by the end of the show and we obviously Mike is on with you an hour before game time for start sit decisions and we'll keep you updated on the social media as well. Chris Conley with the knee injury limited Thursday. I don't, you know, I don't think he's going to play and I don't care if he does. Albert Wilson is expected to return for the game against the Chargers.

[Mike Wright]

Not playing it but excited to watch Hubble Wilson play.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Tight ends Vance McDonald Monday night game. Didn't practice Thursday.

[Mike Wright]

You need I'm not playing Vance McDonald.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not putting myself in that position.

[Jason Moore]

They say that, you know, he could be there, but I just can't imagine they they ship away a fifth rounder for a tight end while their tight end is injured because he's going to play. So I'm going to say out.

[Andy Holloway]

Mark Andrews with the foot injury returned to practice Friday, didn't practice Wednesday and Thursday. I think he's going to be in.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. Par.

[Andy Holloway]

Par for the course to Delaney Walker with the knee didn't practice Thursday.

[Mike Wright]

Walker and Greg Olson, they're getting that old man rest, I believe. I think they both will play.

[Andy Holloway]

Can we take off A couple days every week once we hit a certain age.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's how it works.

[Andy Holloway]

Brooks and Al Borland will be doing the Thursday, Friday practice shows. Sorry, Foot clan. All right, like I said, game day alerts. You can get the injury reports before you have to make those [e-mail] each and every week. We post those Sunday live on Twitter and Periscope and Facebook and all that. Mike, you've got something to say?

[Mike Wright]

I'm just laughing right now because we refer to these guys as they're, you know, like old man. The old man strength. The day of rest.

[Andy Holloway]

And like they're all younger than us.

[Mike Wright]

And Greg Olson looks like, I mean, that's a, that's a lumberjack. That's a seasoned man. We are older than Greg Olson. I feel like Greg Olson could be my father. Like that's the age discrepancy honoring the two of us.

[Jason Moore]

And honestly, I think he could have been. That's how much a man he was. He was one year old when he became your father.

[Andy Holloway]

Frightening world. But you're right, you're right. I thought he was 56, so I didn't realize that he was younger than us.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

Excited to get into the remaining matchups for week four. Yesterday on the show we did the Panthers, Texans, Browns, Ravens, Chiefs, Lions, Patriots, Bills, Chargers, Dolphins, Raiders, Colts. Those matchups on yesterday's show, go ahead and listen in and you'll get the get the breakdown.

[Mike Wright]

It's free.

[Andy Holloway]

It's free. It is. Eight matchups remaining on today's show. Ballers on a budget. After that, the Titans, Falcons. They play in Atlanta. Both teams one and two. Falcons are four point home favorites. 45 and a half point over under Mario to Mount Ryan. I know we're not interested in the alliterative Marcus Mariota. No, just because he has the same letter at the front of both names does not make him a start. It's Mike.

[Mike Wright]

It's a sensational name to be fair. I mean that is a comic book. It's that he's an alias so that perhaps, perhaps he's not as good in the NFL because he's actually a superhero and he knows that he has to feign his strength.

[Andy Holloway]

He's really been in the Bruce.

[Jason Moore]

He's a great actor.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

If that's the case, he's been in.

[Andy Holloway]

The Bruce Wayne State for many years now. Matt Ryan is our consensus quarterback. 10 on the week. He's averaged 309 passing yards per game. Are you playing Matt Ryan against the Titans defense?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The matchup stinks, but it's Matt Ryan at home. He's averaging over 300 yards, multi touchdowns every week. He's is a good fantasy start.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I look at Matt Ryan in this game very similar to how I looked at Carson Wentz yesterday. Like, yeah, you know, you got to play him. We have this track record of stats. So far, it's three games. I think Matt Ryan at home is a must start.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you. I mean, I was in the off season. I was the anti Matt Ryan believer. Two of my biggest reasons were the defense. They lost so many pieces last year and the running game couldn't, you know, wasn't going when they lost Devonta Freeman. Well, the running game's not going with Freeman. Keanu Neal now is out. So, yeah, I mean, at home, Matt Ryan is pretty much a weekly start.

[Andy Holloway]

Devonte Freeman, 20 touches. Last week it was a bit of.

[Mike Wright]

A product that Ido Smith was knocked out of the game and Ido Smith has resumed practicing. We'll see if he plays or not. That'll have a lot to do with the confidence you can have playing Freeman because the matchup is. It's back to a rough matchup for Freeman.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not sure that I would want to play Freeman. I mean, you might have to, but yeah, even if Ito is out, this is a bad matchup for a guy that just hasn't been able to get it done.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think this might be the week he gets a little bit more involved in the passing game and does enough. I'm willing to make a top 24 bet with you, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

If that's top 24, he's in my top 24. Not going to bet against my own rankings.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what makes that bet so good.

[Mike Wright]

So it sounds like you would play him then.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it does. Based on your rankings.

[Mike Wright]

Talking out of both sides of your mouth over there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, you are, sir.

[Mike Wright]

I would not play him, but he's a top 24 guy, so then I would 100% play him. Because you played two running backs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Take a stand.

[Mike Wright]

I'm Jason Moore.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the deal. My rosters have better than two top 24 running backs. You know, look, if your nasty rosters are like, oh, running back 24, that's exciting. Go ahead. Sorry about your roster now, who are your running backs?

[Mike Wright]

Jay.

[Jason Moore]

Alvin Camara and Dalvin Cook. Those are. Don't, don't, don't look this up.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't look this. Don't look this up. Derek Henry.

[Mike Wright]

I think he just read off his.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he just read the top three running back.

[Jason Moore]

Those are the top three. Man, that's good.

[Mike Wright]

You're an excellent fantasy player.

[Andy Holloway]

Barry Sanders, Emmett Smith and Ladanian Thomason. Derek Henry. Jason, you have him at RB6 this week. He's averaging 17 rushing attempts per game. Falcons been middle of the pack against the running back position. We know that Tennessee to win, must hand the ball to Derek Henry over and over and over again. I'm comfortable with him obviously in this matchup. I think we all agree, oh, I'm.

[Mike Wright]

Comfortable playing him, but I don't have him as a high end start like he could easily get game scripted out.

[Andy Holloway]

Is there another player on Tennessee that you're willing to play in this game?

[Jason Moore]

Walker. Texas Ranger.

[Andy Holloway]

Delaney.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Targets six in game one, six in game two, nine in the week three.

[Mike Wright]

If Walker plays, you play him.

[Andy Holloway]

Austin Hooper, my tight end start of the week. What about Hooper vs. Walker in this one? Who would you rather have?

[Mike Wright]

I think I would play Hooper. The matchup is solid. The Titans, the only place they're really being beat for fantasy purposes right now is the tight end position and Austin Hooper's. He's young and practicing.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's helpful. You want a guy that's going to be playing. I've got a back to back in my rankings. I have Delaney Walker one spot ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

Little known fact, Dustin Hooper is actually Greg Olson's son.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, makes sense.

[Mike Wright]

It does make sense.

[Jason Moore]

What about Calvin Ridley? How are you guys feeling after his lousy game last week?

[Andy Holloway]

You are playing on Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, I will play Calvin Ridley.

[Andy Holloway]

So what does that mean? Where do you have him ranked?

[Mike Wright]

Let me pull up my rankings.

[Andy Holloway]

But he obviously only had one target last week. Yeah, I just didn't know what he was before last week. Was he a. He's like a flex play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's a wide receiver. 2 slash 3.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

But with Matt Ryan, he has upside every single week. So he's. He's just in there as a weekly play for.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think I would start him as well. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

The Titans have the highest pressure rate in the NFL. The Atlanta offensive line, not exactly strong. I think that'll be the push comes to shove part of this game. The Redskins at 03 take on the 1 and 2 giants. What a barn burner. This is going to be it.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, look.

[Andy Holloway]

It actually might be.

[Mike Wright]

It could be.

[Andy Holloway]

It's the third highest over under of the week. The giants are three point home favorites. The over unders 49 and a half points. That puts the giants at 26, the Redskins at 23. So Daniel Jones.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

He had the second best debut ever for a fantasy football quarterback. We have met consensus QB 13 this week. Case Keenum at 23. Can you trust Daniel Jones? I don't think that that's possible. I don't think you can ever take a player that has one NFL start and say, yes, I trust him to deliver. But is he. Does he have potential in this matchup? You have to say yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think he is an excellent streaming quarterback this week if you're up against it. Washington 28th against the quarterback position for fantasy scoring. They get beat there and look, Daniel Jones, he looked solid. This wasn't to me. We've all seen the quarterback come in and the team rallies behind the new quarterback. They pull out a win and the quarterback gets all this credit. But you know, if you watch the game, the quarterback did not win that game. Daniel Jones was a huge part of the Giants actually winning. I feel like he is a competent quarterback and he's in A plus matchup at home.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the Redskins. The Redskins are giving up 79% completion percentage. That is the highest in the NFL. So yeah, I think Daniel Jones could be played, especially when you add in his rushing baseline. You know, he rushed a lot in college and so far, Week 1 two rushing touchdowns, plenty of yards on the ground. I think you could stream him.

[Mike Wright]

Wayne Gallman, you got, you just got to play him. If you spent all that money, you're playing him.

[Andy Holloway]

Adrian Peterson, we have him right on the outside edge of running back three. He's in the category where you're saying, do I want to play Frank Gore against New England or do I want to play Adrian Peterson against the Giants?

[Mike Wright]

That's a punch in the face.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Peterson in that case. Yes, but it's not been pretty. And then Chris Thompson being worked into this offense. The Redskins throwing the ball 14% more than they did in 2018. That's the largest pass increase in the NFL. They, their defense is not showing up. I mean, I think that's a big part of it. And they're having to hand the ball to Case Keenum to come back. That's why we've seen Terry McClaurin have success through three weeks. Does it continue in this one? I mean, the Giants Defense.

[Jason Moore]

Ew. Yeah, the Giants defenses, this is why there's a high over under on the game. We say it could be a barn burner. I could very easily see, even though it's almost a 50 point over under taking the over on this game, I don't see either defense doing anything good. And both offenses can compete enough against these specific defenses. So, yeah, I mean, I think you start Terry McLaurin, I think you start Sterling Shepard. I want pieces in this game. Not so much the Adrian Peterson. You know, again I would take him over Gore. This could be a game that the Redskins are up and winning and he stays in the game. But if it turns into a barn burner, which I lean, the probably odds on probability are that, yeah, this is going to, you know, there's going to be a lot of points scored, then.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather have Chris Thompson, Adrian Peterson. I'll give you an example of when I'm going to play him because I think he's the guy that you don't want to play. He's the like in case of emergency break glass type of player. You know, in one of our leagues. I have him on the bench. I'm looking out on the waiver wire. It's, it's Adam Humphries, it's Cole Beasley against New England. It's, it's kind of like, well, if I give, if Emmanuel Sanders was to miss the game because he's a little banged up or Chris Godwin surprise missed the game, that's when I put Peterson in and go, at least I know they're going to hand him the ball 10, 11 times. Maybe he'll fall forward into the end zone like he did a couple weeks ago. But you can't be excited about Peterson. No doubt about it.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Buccaneers 1 and 2 take on the Rams. Rams are three and oh, game has a 49 and a half point over under as well. The Rams are nine and a half point home favorites. We know Jared Goff's a lot better at home. We have him at QB8. You feel comfortable with golf?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I really like golf this week. The whole home road narrative that I've been pushing against seems to have been true, at least so far and he is at home. While the Tampa Bay Buccaneers defense has looked better, they obviously were beat by Daniel Jones pretty heavily last week. So I think at home the Rams. This is a bounce back game to me for the Rams. Yes, they're three and oh, but you haven't really loved the offense because you haven't loved Jared Goff, you haven't loved Todd Gurley. I actually think both players have a bounce back game. I think they're going to try to get Gurley going in this. So I really like the Rams this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you buy into the reports that you know Gurley at 15 touches a game, they actually want to get him the 25?

[Jason Moore]

No, that was, that was coach speak when he was asked a question about that number, saying, yeah, but if you listen to him, Sean McVay does go on to say, I don't believe the number thing, but he said, I want to get him in more of a rhythm and set him up to succeed. That's where he's been blaming himself and we've seen that with Gurley.

[Andy Holloway]

That's where you've been blaming him.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I've been blaming him because why aren't you getting him involved in the screen game, getting him on, you know, in a rhythm? And if that's an effort given by Sean McVeigh, I think, look, Gurley's been out there. He's not, I mean, we're worried about the workload, but he's not currently injured. He's still the same talented guy before the season.

[Andy Holloway]

If I had said he'd be three weeks in, 71% of the snaps on the season, I think we'd all have.

[Mike Wright]

Imagined he's a top 10 guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Top five.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. So we've been, you know, they have not taken him off the field. They're three and oh, that's a good sign. He's. Is he a buy low for you? If you believe McVeigh, can, you know, even some small involvement in the passing game is going to change the narrative quite a bit.

[Jason Moore]

I traded for him this week in our listener league because I think this week he's a buy low. That being said, if he balls out and looks amazing, yeah, I'm going to listen to offers because I still worry about the long term reliability.

[Andy Holloway]

Peyton Barber, Ronald Jones, he's starting either guy in this one. The Rams, the only place they have been beaten has been at the running back position because their corners are incredible and they have a great pass rush. So occasionally running backs have done a few things against them, given up 22 and a half fantasy points. But if you have to pick one, where do you go?

[Mike Wright]

I guess Ronald Jones, because please don't pick one.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that the answer is.

[Mike Wright]

It's just reactionary to what happened last week. This is a, this is a tango that I want no part of.

[Andy Holloway]

Evans and Godwin, you starting These guys against these.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Incredible corners.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think you probably have to based on where they were drafted, who they are and what your. The rest of your lineup is. But I'm expecting a poor game out of Jameis Winston against the Rams so that Evans coming off not bode well.

[Andy Holloway]

For Evans and Goblin Evans coming off the 8th best fantasy game by a wide receiver over the last 10 years. And we were on the other end of one of those and it didn't feel good.

[Mike Wright]

Thanks, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Cooper Cup, Brandon Cooks, Robert Woods. That's the order you'd start these guys.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you have to go that way. Even though Robert woods, he's seeing the exact same target share as Cooper Cup. When you're watching the game, the.

[Jason Moore]

There's.

[Mike Wright]

There's a. There's a sink problem to me right now with Jared Goff and Robert Woods. The targets are just. They're not. They're not as catchable. They're just. They're not as nice as these Cooper cup receptions where, I mean, he's running free and wide open.

[Jason Moore]

1.

[Mike Wright]

So some of it's on Woods.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. One thing that's been interesting, if you go back and look at the matchups and who's been guarding who, the top corner for the first three weeks has been more on Woods. And I wonder after last week if that starts to shift, if defenses start to say we need to look at cup as the one put our best guy there, it'll be interesting.

[Andy Holloway]

He's just in the slot, so I don't think you're going to see that. I think it'll be interesting if at home, if we see woods in this game not be able to kind of break through, I think fantasy owners are going to get pretty worried about his production and where he drafted him because he's never really had the high end upside. So you at least want to have the 10, 12 points a week. I think Howard has an okay game in this one. I really do.

[Jason Moore]

Howard is my number 10 tight end and it's terrifying. Like, I've still got him. Yeah. Because he should be good. He should have been good week one, two and three.

[Andy Holloway]

He was fine last week. I think he's probably. He'll see more targets this week. I think they're going to need to utilize him. Godwin. If the Rams defense focuses on slowing down Mike Evans in those corners on the outside, that's. That's my guess. You know, you got to put Winston in the position where he can evade this pass rush with some help underneath. I hope Howard is That guy. For fantasy purposes, I'm fine starting him. You guys ready to move on?

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The Seahawks 2 and 1 take on the. Oh. 2 and 1 Cardinals in Arizona Seahawks 5 point road favorites in this one. What are we expecting from Russell Wilson and Kyler Murray?

[Mike Wright]

So Russell Wilson, you. You play him that the matchup is super juicy. You are, you're just. You're hoping that the Cardinals can keep up. Because I knew Russell Wilson's massive game last week. I think he threw the ball 50 times. Like, that's. That is not what Pete Carroll and the Seattle Seahawks want to do. They'll do it if they have to, but they really don't want their offense running that way. So it's. Well, they have to, but that's what I mean. But Russell Wilson's high end finish this week would be predicated on the Cardinals keeping up.

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't think that's true. I think Russell Wilson's high end finish could be the product of just super efficiency with some Disney touchdowns. A Tyler Lockett bomb touchdown. A DK Metcalf. The Arizona Cardinals are going to give up a lot of points that we know. We just don't know where they're going to come. If I had to guess, I think they're going to try to get Chris Carson going in this game. They want to be in control in a divisional matchup. I love Chris Carson. This week the Arizona Cardinals gave up a monster game to Christian McCaffrey. I think that will Disley, Tyler Lockett, Chris Carson, you have to start. And it's going to be the Cardinals shockingly playing catch up like they have done the entire year. They have still yet to run a single snap with a lead. So the only thing we know about the Cardinals is that they throw the ball a lot when they're down and they're always down.

[Andy Holloway]

The Seahawks defense, it's not been good. No, I would say, you know, bottom third, Kyler, D.J. fitzgerald, I assume we're starting those three. Christian Kirk, are you willing to put him out there?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, look, the volume has been fantastic for the wide receivers. It's right Now Larry ranks fourth in targets at 31 and Christian Kirk has 32 targets there. The volume is great. Kyler's not throwing the ball deep down the field, but he's throwing the ball a lot. So it works out for fantasy. We wish we would see them going down the field a little bit more, but you still have to be pleased with the mid to late round values that, that Larry and Kirk are providing Chris Carson, you.

[Andy Holloway]

You've shown some confidence in him. Start of the week. I have Wilson as my start of the week against Arizona's defense. Lockett has been outstanding second most targets over the last two weeks after the.

[Jason Moore]

The weird.

[Andy Holloway]

The weird week one where he still delivered, though. He had the big play. And then Will Disley. Will Disley kind of our show Start of the week this week. Arizona dead last. This is shocking. This stat is shocking. 25.4 fantasy points per game given up to the tight end position.

[Jason Moore]

So think about what that means. The tight end on a team that usually scores like no fantasy points on average is averaging 25 fantasy points. That's why Montana's Gatorade high school player of the year in 2013, the big Montana himself is our star of the week. Will Disley.

[Mike Wright]

Whoo.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Get it going, Big Montana. He's everyone's favorite play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Hope it turns out. Hope it pans out.

[Mike Wright]

It will.

[Andy Holloway]

It's funny because I doubted Olson last week on the injury return. It was like Kyle Allen, new variable. We know that Cam Newton loves Greg Olson. He's banged up and he just balled down.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

So did you say he's Montana's Gatorade high school player of the year in 2013?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Super impressive.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm calling Big Montana for nothing. And they equals us Vikings 2 and 1 at the Bears. 2 and 1. Bears 2 point home favorites in this one. What are we going to get out of David Montgomery? You know, this is going to be the toughest test for Dalvin Cook right now. The Vikings only passing the ball 38% of the time, which is shocking. Dalvin Cook has been absolutely dominant. He's the number one fantasy running back on the year. He's tied for the most forced missed tackles, second in yards after contact, every metric. You can look at production, you know, his running ability, it's been off the charts, but this is a really difficult matchup. The Bears are fourth in the league. They're only giving up 15 fantasy points per game to the running back. What do you think?

[Jason Moore]

This, this projects to be a really bad game for fantasy when you have two teams that want to win with defense and you have two quarterbacks that aren't the best, and the good quarterback out of the two of them is on the road.

[Mike Wright]

They both the quarterbacks would also like to win with defense.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, exactly. So, you know, it's one of those things where I think the running game is where both teams are going to try to rely on, but it's not going to be easy against either of these two defenses. You're obviously going to be playing Dalvin Cook. I still think you play Adam Thielen even though you know the, you're scared about the volume, you're scared about the matchup. But I don't know how you sit Adam Thielen. He just still gets it done pretty much every week. You know you're not starting Diggs, right?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no. This matchup is just too difficult for Diggs to have that breakout game. It should get better for Diggs, but this is, this is really frustrating for a lot of fantasy owners. Fantasy owners that spend a third round pick in dynasty leagues or traded in dynasty leagues and wonder what the future is going to hold. Like you said, I mean it's a 38 point over under. Vegas does not have this as a high scoring affair. So fantasy points are going to be few and far between. That's what makes this David Montgomery situation very difficult. He's averaged 15 and a half carries over two weeks. You can be as angry with Matt Nagy as you want to be because of maybe when those carries are coming, being on the goal line and have not running the football. But David Montgomery being a youngster, a player that you believe in a tackle breaker, 15 and a half carries, is his time coming?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean this is the type of game that I think they're going to try to make his time. The problem is the matchup I think he gets.

[Mike Wright]

He's not going to make it Mike Davis's time or Cordero Patterson's time.

[Jason Moore]

I mean we, Cohen's time, we certainly can't be sure. But I think that the probability says that Montgomery is going to get the lion's share of the carries. Is going to be a tough matchup. I think you could start him. He's our RB24 consensus. But you just can't expect a huge game against such a tough defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Alan Robinson against this Vikings defense.

[Mike Wright]

What do you think you can play him? He's getting nine targets per game, 26% of Mitch Trubisky's targets. I, he's, he's, he's in that two, three. I mean I would, I would rather play Allen Robinson over Stefan Diggs.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, I feel like the name should be brought up anytime you score three touchdowns in a quarter. Taylor Gabriel, he had a monster game.

[Mike Wright]

He does this all the time. He, he lures you. He's like a Venus fly trap. He's oh look, all these fantasy points that I can score.

[Andy Holloway]

Haha.

[Mike Wright]

I got you zero.

[Andy Holloway]

No interest.

[Mike Wright]

Like interest. Like if you want to add a speculative ad. But I am not chasing the. I'm not. I'm not falling for it again, Taylor.

[Jason Moore]

No, you don't got me, like, five times.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, the truth is, he's really good.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, he's super fast.

[Andy Holloway]

The consistency of targets there, it's tough.

[Jason Moore]

He was the wide receiver three this week, but if you want to chase these points, know what he was week one and week two, he was the wide receiver 80 and 84.

[Andy Holloway]

He reminds me a little bit of Brandon Cooks in the way that not only is he really fast, but he makes contested catches at. With a small stature on. On the reg. But he doesn't get the targets regularly. And that's the trouble.

[Mike Wright]

They're also. They're also Trubisky targets, which are totally different.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the problem. That's when the ball's spinning horizontally, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, you told me that you get David Montgomery, Tariq Cohen, Allen Robinson, Taylor Gabriel, Trey Burton, and you replace them with a quarterback. I mean, this should be a really fun offense.

[Andy Holloway]

You're not interested in a quarterback that can throw three touchdowns in a single quarter?

[Jason Moore]

Jason, I am not interested in a quarterback that could throw three touchdowns in a single quarter if his name is Mitchell Trubisky. Otherwise, I'm in.

[Andy Holloway]

Is this the sixth touchdown week? I want to know when the six touchdown week's coming this year.

[Mike Wright]

I thought it was happening last week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. The Jags 1 and 2 take on the Broncos. Oh, hooray. Oh, and three. 38 and a half point over, under. I don't know. This is like the previous game. This is like the Vikings, Bears, only with even less exciting prospects to me.

[Jason Moore]

Right? Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you right now, Jason, real question. Let's put you to it.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Joe Flacco.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, God.

[Andy Holloway]

You want him running your offense or Mitchell Trubisky?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness. Gross. I would go with Trubisky because he's mobile and he can get out of the pocket. And when things break out, I just.

[Andy Holloway]

Had to figure out where you were, man, how deep in this Trubisky hole you were.

[Mike Wright]

The Denver fans were waiting with bated breath saying, oh, this is it. This is our time. We get a little.

[Jason Moore]

No. Yeah, sorry. Still Flacco.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Gardner Minshew, Joe Flacco. You don't play either one in this game?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Mincho's on the road in Denver. It's a low over under. No, thank you. Leonard Fournette, Philip Lindsay. Jason, you're the highest on Lindsey this week. Last week it was a good week. Royce Freeman's look pretty good this year seems to be back. Are you playing these. These guys against Jacksonville?

[Mike Wright]

I am like in solid use my team as an example in my. My money league I have to choose between Philip Lindsay who I don't want to play against Jacksonville. But then the other options are like Darrell Williams who what's his role in Kansas City because now Shady's been upgraded to full or like Frank Gore who should still see the majority of the work for Buffalo with with Singletary coming back. And right now I'm going with Philip Lindsay.

[Jason Moore]

I would too.

[Mike Wright]

The options behind when Lindsay's your two, the options you have behind him are probably not much better and you don't want a part of the matchup. However, saying that like if you're playing Philip Lindsay with any type of confidence, I think it's the exact same confidence I have in Royce Freeman. They're both going to see very identical work. Both are involved in the passing game. So I think that Royce Freeman is also a playable guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Last week on the same level of Philip Lindsay.

[Jason Moore]

Last week's fantasy finish for Philip Lindsay looked really good compared to Royce Freeman's. If you watch the game, they were. They were involved about the same. Royce Freeman had one of those two touchdowns. So if that touchdown goes to Royce Freeman that was called back on that phantom hold right by Emmanuel Sanders. Then all of a sudden the week looks even between these two guys. But Philip Lindsay is still the. Still the more explosive guy. If you're going to tell me one of these guys is going to run off a 40 yard touchdown, it's going to be Philip Lindsay.

[Andy Holloway]

If you. On Sunday, if you're walking around the house and you feel kind of some malaise or nausea, you feel a little not yourself. Check your tv. Make sure this game's not on. That could be actually the reason why. Slowest pace of play in football for Jacksonville. Ugliest pace of play in Denver so far. The Broncos defense. Yeah. Yes, it is. The Broncos defense has exactly zero sacks on the season. This was the formidable incredible because this looks like a good defense play, right. On paper, Denver at home against Gardner Minshew looks like a great play. Zero sacks.

[Jason Moore]

You've got Vaughn Miller zero sacks through three games. That's. It's. It's outland with Vic Fangio coming like the defensive genius running the show. It's. It's really unbelievable. Here's. I think the only question in this game like I'm not playing DJ Chark. I know he's been on fire, but he gets Chris Harris Jr. He saw what he did to Devonte Adams. But what about Emmanuel Sanders and Cortland Sutton? Jacksonville is a great deep, but they're not going to have Jalen Ramsey. That changes things.

[Mike Wright]

Is that where it is trended to? Is Ramsey looking like he's going to be.

[Jason Moore]

I believe they are going to be without Jalen Ramsey because he was.

[Mike Wright]

He had the wink wink flu and then he had like a wink wink.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he had a real, a real child. That wasn't a wink wink.

[Jason Moore]

He flew to, I believe, Nashville.

[Andy Holloway]

He's there with James White.

[Mike Wright]

He's just like, yeah, I just wanted.

[Jason Moore]

To see James White's baby.

[Andy Holloway]

No. But he says his trade request still.

[Jason Moore]

Stands, so I don't believe he's playing this week.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he found the loophole if his wife can have a baby next week. He's. Look, he's out there looking for. If he can find Sam Darnold, you know where he's after that?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's a little smoochy smooch.

[Andy Holloway]

He doesn't want to take the field for Jacksonville anymore. That'll buy him, what, four or five weeks at least.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Genius. All right. Sunday Night Football. Cowboys, Saints. Cowboys are two and a half point road favorites in this one, 47 point over under the Saints. They won last week. The impressive performance against Seattle, you know, the, the Carson turnover didn't help the momentum of that game. But I think I was impressed with what I saw from Teddy Bridgewater able to kind of manage the offense and obviously Alvin Camara is so good that you can kind of hand him the whole offense, literally.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the thing that's the most surprising, probably the most surprising stat I've heard in a long time, but certainly within this matchup. Yesterday we were talking about the Miami Dolphins as the 31st best team, right, against quarterbacks, and Mike was blown away. There's like, wait, there's someone worse than the Dolphins. And it turns out it's the Saints against the quarterback. And it's on the back of giving up four rushing touchdowns already to the quarterback through the first three weeks. And now they're playing Dak Prescott, who's known for supplementing his touchdowns with rushing touchdowns. Mark of the beast. Each of the first three years, he's had six rushing touchdowns. This matchup seems like one that you want to say might be scary for Dak, but it might be. I mean, oh, no, it looks great.

[Mike Wright]

Scary. Hell no.

[Jason Moore]

No, I'm just saying like team you look at last year, you know, the Saints were a great defense. They're still good against the run. You just wonder. But I think, I think Dak's going to have a good game.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah, and I mean if you look at that stat, maybe that one's, it's a little contorted by rushing touchdowns. But then you look at what they've given up to the wide receiver position. They're 30th in the league, 42 and a half points per game. So they haven't been able to step up there. You've got Amari Cooper has been extremely consistent. He's the wide receiver four on the season. He's a go to guy in this new downfield offense where Dak is, you know, taking shots, picking his spots. I just like Dallas in this game. You know, you got a 24 and a half point implied point total. The Saints at 22. I like obviously Dak, Zeke Cooper, they're in. Is there somebody else you're taking a shot with on Dallas? If you have to pick another wide receiver, for example, because you look at the situation. Michael Gallup's not back yet. They have given up a lot of points to the wide receiver position and Amari Cooper had a precautionary mri. So if you're taking a shot, is it on Randall Cobb? Is it on Devin Smith?

[Mike Wright]

If I'm taking the shot, I'm going to go Devin Smith. We would hope that Randall Cobb last week would step up in the absence of Michael Gallup against Miami for targets. And these are, it's Randall Cobb targets. So it's, he ends up with two for 23. Devin Smith is not.

[Jason Moore]

Devin Smith had five targets last week.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not calling him a great play or anything, but it's, it's unfortunate that he's Sunday night. So if you're playing like, if you're playing the main slate of dfs, we're going to do our Ballers on a Budget segment here coming up where we're talking about Bargain plays for FanDuel. And I wanted it to be Devin Smith and I'm like, ah, but he's Sunday night so you can't put him in, in the main slate. But so to answer your questions, if I'm taking the shot, I'm going big play for Devin Smith. You're, you're in the dome and you.

[Andy Holloway]

Got some, probably the smart play.

[Mike Wright]

You got some rough cornerbacks for the Saints. They have one really good one and then a couple really bad ones. Which is why they're giving up over 40 points to the wide receiver position. So I'll go with Smith.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, most of the starts in this game are just obvious ones. Michael Thomas, Alvin Camara. All right, the Bengals take on the Steelers. This is the Monday Night Football game. And this is my.

[Jason Moore]

Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

The winless Bengals go to Pittsburgh. Steelers are four point favorites. I'm going back to the well with the Bengals. Last week they delivered the almost upset against the Bills. I think they do it again against Mason Rudolph in the divisional matchup. Mason Rudolph, 14 completions last week, 174 yards. It was gross.

[Mike Wright]

Somewhere there is a high ranking executive who has lost all his all of his hair as he gives a gaze to the Monday Night Football upcoming schedule.

[Andy Holloway]

Someone's going to win this thing. From what? Well, maybe not maybe. Oh, that would be so great if. What do you think the Ravens would think if they're sitting here and their two divisional opponents here end up with a tie? 6 to 6 tie. No, I think that the Bengals will be able to do enough against this Steelers defense. I know the Steelers are trying to shore it up with Minka Fitzpatrick and it looked a lot better last week. It really did.

[Mike Wright]

They were a studly defense last week.

[Andy Holloway]

They were. Which is what makes it so incredible that they are currently 24th against quarterbacks, 29th against running backs, 28th against wide receivers and 19th against tight ends because they did look pretty good last week.

[Jason Moore]

So thanks Patriots. Week one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that disintegrates your whole season. But at the same time, we've seen Andy Dalton given a license to throw the ball over and over and over again. And there are problems in the Steelers secondary. They have the second highest pass play rate in football right now at 72.9%. They run three wide receiver sets 84% of the time. Which is why you can look at both Tyler Boyd and John Ross in this matchup. Yes, Ross has a lot more risk to him than Tyler Boyd does. Tyler Boyd has a 24% target share. He's been double digit targets every week and he's. Jason started the week for a reason. This week I think Boyd is the safest. Ross is the riskiest with some upside.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's how I see it. I mean, obviously Mika Fitzpatrick helps the defense a lot against the slot, but still you have a very good, highly targeted wide receiver. I'm confident in Tyler Boyd even though I'm not confident in Andy Dalton. I think that, you know, one can have A good game without the other Dalton. I mean, on paper, Dalton should crush Dalton. Sweet crush. I still worry. I know it's narrative driven, the whole Andy Dalton in prime time thing, but, I mean, it's. You gotta. You got a lot of that story.

[Mike Wright]

Got started for a reason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that story got. I mean, since 2011, Andy Dalton in primetime games is 6 and 15, 2 and 5 on Monday night Football.

[Andy Holloway]

So you know what jumps out of me with that stat? Too many primetime games for the Bengals, right?

[Jason Moore]

Like, wait a minute, how many? Why do you keep giving 6 and prime time, 6 and 15?

[Andy Holloway]

Goodness.

[Jason Moore]

2011.

[Andy Holloway]

I wonder who hates primetime more, Kirk Cousins or Andy Dalton. That's the real question.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, what if they played each other in prime time?

[Mike Wright]

Goodness, it would be a six.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe they would. Maybe that's what would break the curse.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you know what I mean?

[Mike Wright]

Like, you smash the mirror, like putting.

[Andy Holloway]

You in the room with the Spiders.

[Jason Moore]

No, thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

At the running back position, James Conner, Joe Mixon. It's been, it's been rough for both of these guys to start the season. And it's no surprise when you have winless teams that their running backs are struggling. It's a. It's a chicken egg thing at times. But generally I like running backs on winning teams. I like that for the sake of game script and opportunity and goal line opportunities and all of those things. I do like James Conner to have a bounce back in this game. Bengals are giving up 32 fantasy points per game to the running back position.

[Jason Moore]

168.7 rushing yards per game, second most in the NFL.

[Mike Wright]

This is impossible.

[Jason Moore]

Great matchup for James Connor.

[Andy Holloway]

This is, this is your shot, James, to let me know if, if we can count on you in the right matchups. Despite Mason, Rudolph or not. And so I have him as my start of the week. I think he shows up in this one. Joe Mixon. Pittsburgh's given up the third most rushing yards. Mixon looked pretty good last week in a tough matchup. You know, the question fantasy owners may have is, has the ship sailed on either of these guys putting up a top 12 season?

[Jason Moore]

No, I don't. I don't think the ship has definitely sailed. Joe Mixon, dealt with an ankle injury, missed part of week two, wasn't right for week or week one, and wasn't right for week two.

[Mike Wright]

Connor's dealing with. He just dealt with his own knee injury as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyler Boyd, we talked about that side. Juju. He was in the panic room on Wednesday. It's not been good for juju. Can you play him in this game with confidence?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I think you can play him in this game with confidence. He's. This is a very beatable matchup. He's at home. I think Mason Rudolph will play better at home when you know, you're not dealing with crowd noise and things like that. He's still targeting juju. I think all juju needs is 10 targets and he'll do something with it. Look at last week where, you know, it was, it was rough. Mason Rudolph look bad, but juju made his own breaking away for a 76 yard touchdown. That's not to say that juju is, you know, a top five wide receiver this week, but I'm starting it with confidence in this matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. All right. This. Somebody's got to win it. That's. That's the truth. Injury update since the show started. Scary Terry still not practicing on Friday. Uh oh. Late week injury AD two missed practices. Not good. Jamal Williams says he's good. He says the only thing hurt is his pride from not being able to finish the game. That's a good report after what happened to him.

[Jason Moore]

That's awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

They say Godwin will be a game day decision, but it's nice that he returned to practice. And then Ty Hilton remains sidelined again on Friday's practice. Throwing some doubt there. So let's go ahead and get into our Friday segment.

[Jason Moore]

Ballers on a budget presented by fanduel Yarn. I don't know why I became a pirate there, but I was excited and my voice is like this. So is what you got.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe you had Scary Terry on in your mind and that's a good pirate name.

[Jason Moore]

That is Scary Terry.

[Mike Wright]

Well known fact that pirates as they pillaged and they, you know, they journeyed the seas looking for booty to steal blues music. That's. That's how they got ready for battle.

[Jason Moore]

That's. I didn't know that, Mike, but thank you. Wow. So look, we're giving you some of our favorite picks that are cheaper on FanDuel. Guys that we think can very much out produce what they cost right now and you guys can get in on this. The fantasy footballers leaderboard series is going on and just so that everybody knows how this works, because you might think, oh, maybe I didn't play week one, week two, maybe I've never played FanDuel.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

Look, this is, we set this up this way so that everyone has a fair shot every single week. All you have to do every single week, it's a brand new contest. You win any one of These weeks and there's limited participants just for the foot clan. You win any of them and you're automatically entered into that prize. There's a ton of prizes were given out, including the all expense paid trip to Arizona to hang out with us, do a live recording. So it's going to be great, a great time.

[Andy Holloway]

What's the web address, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. If you want. I guess. I guess if you want to play, you can go to fanduel.com ballers fanduel.com ballers Since I'm talking, I'm going to go with my super chalk. I think it's chalky, but I think you're going to benefit from putting Wayne Gallman in your lineup. He's priced like old Wayne Goleman. He's at $5,900. That's what you'd pay for Rashad Penny who might not play, or Tariq Cohen, who has done nothing. Wayne Goleman is inheriting the Saquon Barkley role. He won't be Saquon Barkley, but in a game that we expect a lot of points to be scored, wayne golman at 5,900 is a steal. Usually I like putting a lot of my money into the stud, stud running backs and finding cheaper value elsewhere, but this week with Gallman mispriced, I would throw him in my lineup.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, I'm gonna go with Hollywood Brown.

[Mike Wright]

Hollywood.

[Andy Holloway]

I was really surprised. I saw him at $5,700 against Cleveland. He's been targeted 27 times on the year. I want people to understand that's the same as Kenny Golladay. That's more than Ty Hilton. That's more than Julian Edelman. And this is a player that had limited snaps in week one. I just think you, you get everything that you could want. You get a bargain price on a player that can boom for you and has the target baseline. So Hollywood Brown at 5700 is my favorite pick of the week.

[Mike Wright]

That price point for Marquis Brown is, it seems, broken, man. Like, yes, you are 100% right, Andy. That's. That's a fantastic call. I wanted to go with scary Terry at $6,300 against the new York Giants. The matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Are you going from Terry to Larry?

[Mike Wright]

I might have to. Oh, I may have to look. Give my piece. So Terry McLaurin. The Giants are giving up the most points to the wide receiver position. He should be matched up against Genoris Jenkins, which is one of the most advantageous matchups of the weekend. But he's not practicing again. So now I have my concerns that he's actually going to play. So I will pivot to Larry Fitzgerald. Larry's at home. The Seattle secondary is absolutely beatable. Larry Fitzgerald has had Double digit targets 2 of 3 weeks. He has scored HE in 2 of 3 weeks at home. So I think that he is, he is safe for volume and that his, his pricing point at 5,900 is. It's very fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Do not miss your chance, as Jason said, to win an all expenses paid trip out here to Arizona. Hang out with us the Fantasy Footballers Leaderboard series. You can go to fanduel.com ballers that's fanduel.com ballers to enter each and every week. Lots of prizes. We're giving away DFS passes as well. And be sure to check out the DFS podcast. Jake Seeley, Joe Holka, Chris Meaney. These guys are killing it. I just did Seely's other show this past week. He's all over this thing. He's enjoying hosting that show and they're bringing forth some really valuable information for your DFS lineups each and every week. Want to thank the studio sponsor Pristine Auction assigned Marlon Mack jersey yesterday. $55.

[Jason Moore]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, that just totally cut the outro off.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com follow us on TwitterFFballers.

[Mike Wright]

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