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Jason Moore
Welcome in Friday, September 26, the fantasy footballers Podcast. One more show before the weekend, more matchups. We got the Wheel of Shame coming your way, Jason.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
To get things started on the right foot, I mean, we. I rushed the producers to hit the record button today because I did not want to have the overflow of all of last night's, you know, activities from the Thursday Night Football game. I didn't. I just didn't want to have those conversations off the air. We walk in the door. I want to make sure that we get to have those conversations right here, right now. Because last night's game was outrageous.
Mike Wright
What was that?
Jason Moore
What was that? Yeah, I mean, it was stupid. It was a roller coaster. It was a. I thought I would come in here today. I'd already thought about this. We get three quarters into the game, Marvin Harrison has caused two overt interceptions, looked incompetent on route concepts, looked like a man who had had every ounce of confidence siphoned out of him.
Mike Wright
That was a broken man.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Completely broken man. Who was. And the Cardinals offense as a. I mean, it's very clear and it makes perfect sense. Without Marvin Harrison. This offense is horrific. Like, without that functioning as part of Arizona, you can't just throw underneath the tray, McBride. It was so easy for the defense of Seattle to not worry about playing anything over the top. No big threats, nothing on the outside. I mean, God bless Michael Wilson and whoever that new guy was that I've never seen Before.
Andy Holloway
That is funny.
Jason Moore
I literally. Weaver.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, I don't know you.
Andy Holloway
I was listening to the very. I was on the radio at the very beginning of the game, and when I heard Weavers out wide, I was like, oh, so the Seahawks are.
Mike Wright
Yeah, they have the ball.
Andy Holloway
Wait, what's. Who's Weaver?
Jason Moore
So through three quarters and I was at. I take my son. He's got like a sports thing. And I'm watching the game at an outback, not a sponsor. I was with Papa Josh. We're watching the game. Papa Josh is like, oh, you traded for Marvin. You have the best luck in the world. He's going to go off. Yeah. It didn't really look that way for about three quarters.
Mike Wright
It was immediate. There was an immediate. Marv stopped on a route, and I don't know if he would have. What would have happened had he not stopped the pick. He might have, but he stopped his route. And it was a pass right to the defender because Marv was not there. And it was like, no way. No way. That just happened immediately.
Andy Holloway
Then it got worse. Way worse. Cardinals are taking perfect pass to Marv's hands where he caught the ball.
Jason Moore
And.
Andy Holloway
And then was like, I forgot how to do.
Jason Moore
It's like the popcorn. The lady holding the popcorn tripping in the lobby. So you're. And this is all on. You know, this is an island game. This is primetime television. As a Cardinal fan, I thought I was going to come in here and stare at this and just have a moment of just.
Mike Wright
You're the broken man.
Jason Moore
It almost made me violently ill. Yeah. Like I was nauseous with how embarrassing this performance was.
Mike Wright
And then the fourth quarter.
Jason Moore
Then the fourth quarter happens. Marvin Harrison catches a outstanding. It was a fantastic touchdown catch over their best defensive back. And he puts it. You could see the relief.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
On his face.
Andy Holloway
I've never ever in the 20 years of watching NFL seen a man catch a touchdown, down two scores and take a knee to cry or what. I don't know if he. If tears came, but it was clearly an overwhelming emotional moment.
Mike Wright
I like to think he's crying the cat out. That's my hope.
Andy Holloway
Just leaving out the eyes.
Jason Moore
There really is hope because of that. The fourth quarter.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
The fourth quarter actually gives you hope for Marvin Harrison Jr. I'm playing Mike in fantasy. Mike told me that when I went into the fourth quarter, my team's projection was 77 points.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Because Kyler had a point, Marv had a point. I ended with like 104 point.
Mike Wright
Your projection has is up almost 30 points. I mean it was because the fourth quarter gets going. Kyler rips off a 30 yard run.
Jason Moore
Yeah, that was nice.
Mike Wright
And I'm like, oh, goodness gracious.
Jason Moore
And you are in this place of you want the Cardinals to succeed.
Mike Wright
It's a, it's a weird thing. So I. When you're, when you're watching a football game and you're playing fantasy football, there's four quarters. Everyone I know, we all want to react to the three quarters like, okay, just call it. It's done. I through three quarters, I was living my best life to my two main leagues. One of them against the Marv Stack. The other I'm playing owl in our main dynasty against JSN and Trey Ben. So JSN has done nothing. And then the fourth quarter happens and all these guys are just scoring points nonstop. So let the whole game play out before we make our final decisions on what has happened.
Jason Moore
It really is a microcosm of all of society's ills. We have immediate reaction.
Mike Wright
We want to call it in the.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean I tweeted. I mean I think I ping pong between best team on earth. Worst team on earth. Best team on earth. Worst team on earth. The summary of this game, Arizona ends up scoring with 28 seconds left. Not kicking the ball into the landing zone. Giving the Seahawks the ball at the 40. Bing, bang, boom.
Mike Wright
Mean it was game's over.
Jason Moore
The Jason was so frustrated with clock.
Andy Holloway
Management because it was, it was, it was unacceptable.
Mike Wright
It was amateur bush league clock.
Andy Holloway
It was, you were under two minutes left in the game on their 30 yard line. Like you're not, you're not not getting the touchdown and then stopping them with two timeouts left and then getting the ball back. And like this is your only chance to win the game is this drive. You're in the 30, there's two minutes left. You're on the other side of the two minute and they're doing a hurry up.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Oh, they're doing a hurry up. We got to make sure we got as much time left on the clock as possible. For what? For the other team to have a chance. If you go score, you know they get the ball right. Freaking idiots. Well, so frustrating.
Jason Moore
There was a point after the two minute mark when they were doing the hurry up. Now the hurry up was working for them on offense. So I got that part. But there was a point where it's like almost somebody called down from the, from the Madden booth. There was like someone that called down because all of a Sudden they were taking time.
Andy Holloway
Yes. Well, they got close enough. They got like inside the 10 and they're like, oh, guys, guys, did you know they're going to get the ball if we score? We should run the ball like. Yeah. Thank you. Also, make sure you don't put your best running back on the field when you want to run the ball.
Jason Moore
Well, you want to know why though, right?
Andy Holloway
Please.
Jason Moore
I know you guys were kind of in love with my dynasty team. Trey, Tucker, Hunter, Henry. I played Imari D. Markado last time.
Andy Holloway
Oh my goodness.
Jason Moore
You got a touchdown and I got a touchdown.
Mike Wright
It's so stupid.
Jason Moore
I don't want to. We have eight matchups to get through. We have so much to talk about. But I need to talk about the other side of this coin here. You know, Kyler ends up okay. Marvin, good game. Six for 66 and a touchdown based by the way. I am really like on a human level, I'm so happy for Marvin to have that moment.
Mike Wright
Sure.
Jason Moore
Because I really did feel for him like this. If you end that game the way the first three quarters go, this is just. It's a lot. It's a lot. And I don't know how recoverable it is.
Mike Wright
You would probably retire the. But before you jump to the other side, the Trey Benson and if you played him last night, I know you're disappointed. As an Arizona Cardinal fan, I was disappointed they didn't go back to him more. He ended up 8 for 35 on the ground, 5 for 19 through the air. He has juice.
Jason Moore
I like the five catches and when.
Mike Wright
And he can make something happen. And I think much, much better things are going to happen for Trey Benson very soon.
Jason Moore
I don't think he played a single like two minute dream.
Andy Holloway
No, he's not the two minute guy, which is a huge problem for fantasy football. But he is talented and he was used in the James Conner role.
Mike Wright
So.
Andy Holloway
So he will be a valuable running back to most of the time and if by the end of the year he can kind of get involved in the. In the two minute drill because he's obviously got the passing chops, then he'll. He'll be able to squeak his way to a running back one.
Jason Moore
I also want to talk about my thoughts on our thoughts on Kenneth Walker.
Mike Wright
He's very good.
Jason Moore
Kenneth Walker is the best worst player ever. He really, really like on an in it the disconnect between fantasy and reality on Kenneth Walker is so extreme. Because if you watch Kenneth Walker, nobody like you can say, oh, Zach Charbonne. He doesn't he got stuffed at the line. Kenneth walker's like, got 20, lost 7, got 25, lost 5. This guy is. And then he had the bad penalty, the mental mistake there. But it's like he is simultaneously the best and dumbest player I've ever seen. Always trying to break the bigger run and costing his team. I think there were three or four separate times they were in second and 15, second and 16. Because of Ken Walker.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, 100%. I mean, that's why they're happy when they give the ball to Charbonnet and he gets two yards. Because it's like, all right, positive.
Mike Wright
It's in it. It's. What's weird about it is I don't disagree. There's so many runs where you're like, dude, what. What's going on? But the problem is he's too good. Like, when he's run. When he runs in and he gets stuffed, like, Charbonnet just goes. Falls down. Kenneth Walker bounces off of people and you're like, your job is to stay on your feet and. But it ends up costing him. I'm not disagreeing with that, but it's just. It's so funny to me of his talent level. To keep his balance and stay up costs him yards because he bounces backwards.
Jason Moore
I mean, I agree. I. Charbonnet had another. A second. He had a touchdown last night. He had a second one called back. If I walked away from that game, do I want to trade more for Ken Walker or Charbonnet? It's actually Charbonnet for me. Ken Walker looked great on certain plays. It's going to be weird all year is my opinion on that one.
Mike Wright
Sure.
Jason Moore
JSN was getting shut out. Ends up four for 79. You saw some flashes from Elijah Arroyo in this game.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
A.J. barner had a touchdown, Cooper cup and Toria Horton, pretty much nothing from them. Horton had a real chance at a big touchdown opportunity.
Mike Wright
They were mostly playing 12 personnel. Yeah, you refer to people who are like, oh, Torry Horton because he's not on the field. Because their plan was we need to have two tight ends out there, which is also.
Jason Moore
I mean, it's why Torry Horton was a little bit of a question mark on adding him because Cooper Cup's not going away, so. All right, we are going to move on.
Andy Holloway
Foot Clan Friday.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
Fantasy campers now.
Jason Moore
Yeah. $100 happier. All right, let's talk some news.
Andy Holloway
News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.
Jason Moore
Jaden Daniels.
Andy Holloway
Oh.
Jason Moore
Not spotted at practice on Friday. After a limited session on Thursday, the game opened at Washington minus three. It is now Atlanta minus one and a half.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Four and a half point swing means the quarterback has changed. And I don't think that we should be expecting Daniels to be the starting quarterback, which makes Marcus Mariota a fine pickup and stream option.
Jason Moore
Bill Crosky didn't practice.
Mike Wright
He. Yeah, he didn't practice Wednesday or Thursday with a sore knee.
Jason Moore
He.
Mike Wright
We are getting reports, they're filtering in right now that he is on the field. The.
Jason Moore
Just to hang out or are we doing some football?
Mike Wright
The latest report I'm seeing here is Jakori Krosky. Merit is on the practice field. They're doing special teams work. So right now he's not doing much. So it's a. We still don't know. We still don't know what's going on with Bill.
Andy Holloway
We need more out of you. It's hard to make the great Chuck Norris jokes when you.
Jason Moore
What's a Chuck Norris joke?
Mike Wright
Whoa, what are you even talking about?
Jason Moore
What is that?
Andy Holloway
It's a Bill Crosky joke.
Jason Moore
I don't even know who that was.
Andy Holloway
Oh, Bill, get on. Get on the field. So if Bill's not there, how should we be bullish on Chris Rodriguez?
Mike Wright
Probably volume. Anyways.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Terry McLaurin did not practice either. Not spotted on Friday and Pretty sure Terry McLaurin is not going to play football.
Andy Holloway
No, everything that is being reported right now is that there's good news for Terry McLaurin. He isn't going to need surgery. So I mean when the news is breaking like, hey, he's gotten like eight opinions. It's the Tucker Craft and he's not getting surgery. It really seems like he's not going to play. But you're right. Tucker Craft then played.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think Terry's not going to play. Just saying of the. Yeah, the reporting is being real weird right now.
Jason Moore
Well, they. Yeah, yeah. We're just hopeful it's not going to be long term for him. Well, this sentence doesn't make sense. It can't possibly mean what it says. Bucks wide receiver Chris Godwin did not practice Wednesday after being a full participant on Wednesday.
Mike Wright
I believe it was Thursday.
Jason Moore
Did not practice Thursday. Thursday. But it part of his ramp up process.
Mike Wright
That's what it sounded like. So, okay, like monitor Chuba because he was added to the injury report on Thursday he was like he practiced limited but he was added with a calf injury. Never like a later week. New addition to the injury report.
Andy Holloway
Is that a maybe pick up Rico?
Mike Wright
Yeah. You might want to insure yourself. Sure.
Jason Moore
What else do we have guys?
Mike Wright
The Devonte Adams hasn't practiced Wednesday or.
Jason Moore
Thursday with the hamstring. As a veteran, I'm still not like I still think there's a chance he's fine and they're just going to manage it. But you don't like to see it.
Mike Wright
No, you'd like to. You need at least a limited today.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, Wednesday. I don't give two farts about Thursday. Missing a Thursday entirely is. It's not good. He wouldn't be doing that if he was healthy. Right. Like he's not just completely not practicing Thursday for rest.
Jason Moore
Juan Jennings did not practice on Wednesday or Thursday. If Jennings were to miss again. Demarcus Robinson will be playing football this.
Andy Holloway
Week, potentially with Brock Purdy.
Jason Moore
He did not suffer an injury. He was suspended. Looked good in preseason. Very capable dart throw type of player.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, 100% available.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Still not rostered in a single league.
Jason Moore
Well, he's in one my dynasty league, baby. You know he's scoring. He's probably my best player. Two and O last week. Xavier Worthy full participant on Wednesday and Thursday. Justin Fields full participant on Thursday. Seems like Justin Fields will start on Monday.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's usually what happens and we won't know. We should know by Sunday. But when they are ramping up and progressing through the practice schedule like they have to do in order to clear concussion protocol, usually that means they'll clear.
Jason Moore
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Andy Holloway
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Jason Moore
All right, we covered the Vikings, Steelers, Commanders, Falcons, Saints, Bills, Browns, Lions, Panthers, Patriots, Chargers, Giants, Eagles, Buccaneers. On yesterday's show, we'll start here.
Mike Wright
Ew. That's where we're starting.
Jason Moore
Well, yeah, we are because we are fighting. That's what 06 means to me. We're fighting for our first win of the season. Tennessee at 0 and 3. Houston at Owen 3 Vegas line Houston -7 over under 39 and a half.
Andy Holloway
You don't usually see a -40 with a team favored by a full touchdown. That means the Titans are projected for 16 points on the road against a very good Houston Texans defense.
Jason Moore
Play the Houston D for sure. Cam Ward, the lowest completion percentage in the NFL right now. 15 sacks taken in three games. On pace to take a record amount of sacks.
Mike Wright
No, Come on, man.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he doesn't look good. I remember after week one, there was like mixed again, signals. Yeah. It was like some people were saying Cam looked so good, and I was like, I feel like we watched different. He did not look good. He was missing passes like crazy. And I mean, he has shown a flash here or there a play, you know, the play where he rolls to the right and throws across his body and has a touchdown to I.O. manor. He has some special moments, but consistency is everything for a quarterback. And honestly, he's consistently not great so far.
Jason Moore
Taking the rookie lumps right now, Tony Pollard is averaging 20 opportunities a game. He is.
Mike Wright
And playing well.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
Just not doing a ton for fantasy.
Jason Moore
Yeah. He did score last week to finish inside the top 15 for the first time, 16 for 45. This is going to be a tough one for him. I don't. I mean, the matchup's just going to be tough. If I'm Houston, Pollard is the number one and number two player I focus on and I make Cam Ward try to complete passes. So I am worried about the ceiling on this game. Do you guys.
Mike Wright
I do not disagree for sure.
Jason Moore
Like, speaking of ceiling problems, Chase Brown or Tony Pollard?
Andy Holloway
Pollard.
Mike Wright
I think that's.
Jason Moore
Yeah, it'd be Pollard for me. Chase Brown has a bad matchup, too. What about Travion taking a shot against Carolina?
Mike Wright
I would play Henderson.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I think that there's more upside there.
Jason Moore
If you don't want to get shut out. Like, you're a heavy lead type of situation. I think Pollard is safe.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's fine.
Jason Moore
Nick Chubb on the other side gets opportunities. Doesn't do much with him. But this is maybe a game at home where you could look at with the heavy favorite situation. He's maybe better.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, for sure. This is a. This is a matchup where I think he projects to be good. I mean, the truth is he should either be good at the end of this week, like, oh, yeah, he had, you know, 70 yards and a touchdown. They're going to be. Hopefully their offense should be able to have little signs of life here at home. Favored by a touchdown against the Tennessee Titans. And if they're up, they'll continue giving the ball to Chubb. He'll have touchdown opportunities. The only reason I don't think it, like, if at the end of this week, we're like, man, well, Chubb's done would be because they continue the Woody Marks volume. You know, he's been going up and up and up in snaps and so maybe in this game, this is his breakout game. That's my only hesitation. Otherwise, Chubb should be good.
Jason Moore
What about the. Would you go Nick Chubb or would you go cross gamer?
Andy Holloway
Definitely Nick job. I mean, I don't know what's going.
Mike Wright
On with that injury.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, Crosky's hard to even make a prediction right now on a Friday.
Jason Moore
Nico Collins play him. Of course. Don't play your Tennessee wide receivers right now. If you do play one because you want to I.O. manor.
Mike Wright
It is. It's I.O. manor.
Jason Moore
And Christian Kirk is on dart throw.
Mike Wright
Ridley has vanished into his cash.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, he's back to where we were with Levis, honestly, which is constantly targeted, pretty ugly targets. Balls not near his hands.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, it's not good. I mean, honestly, in this game, it's. Nico Collins is a must start. And then you have two running backs who are flex options. You might have better options. Pollard on one side, Chubb on the other. Please check out.
Mike Wright
Stop talking about this game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Next.
Jason Moore
All right. These teams have better records.
Andy Holloway
The Colts, I am so excited for this game.
Jason Moore
Colts are three and oh, Rams are two and one. Just coming off the loss to the Eagles where they had a big lead. Vegas line, Los Angeles -3 and a half at home over under 49 and a half. That's.
Andy Holloway
There we go. It's the highest of the week. This is great. And we're going to learn so much about the Colts in this game.
Jason Moore
You think?
Andy Holloway
I do. The Rams, to me, are one of the elite teams. Like watching them play, you know, they. They took it to the Eagles. They ended up shockingly losing that game. But they are, I think, great on offense and great on defense and well coached. They have the weapons and the Colts have looked. They've looked like an elite team, you know, but they've only played one difficult matchup.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they're number two, I was going to say, in total yards per game right now. So they are an offense that is cruising. You've been able to play Michael Pittman. Jonathan Taylor's been a monster. Michael Warren whisperer.
Mike Wright
Jason, is Pittman in this week?
Andy Holloway
Pittman is in. This is a high over under. This is not like I wouldn't make. He was my start of the week last week. This is just a normal. This is like your average Michael Pittman game. He'll finish as the. As the wide receiver. 24 this week.
Jason Moore
Okay. So that's I mean, that's. I was hoping for more than an average Pittman game.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, well, you're not going to get it in this one. You're going to get an average Pittman game, which is a. Which is a necessary start in fantasy.
Jason Moore
Yeah. If you look at his entire. Is this like a career average? Because that would be 10.3 points per game.
Andy Holloway
That is exactly what he scores in this game. Half ppr. 10.3.
Jason Moore
Okay. 10.3 on the dot. You heard it here first. Daniel Jones. You can play him.
Mike Wright
I guess so.
Andy Holloway
It's almost like, how can you not play him?
Mike Wright
But how can you not play him? But how can you play him?
Andy Holloway
Exactly.
Mike Wright
You know, it's a real strungers cat situation.
Andy Holloway
There's going to be a. We knew it, but maybe there wasn't. With Sam Darnold last year, we kept waiting and it was just like, he was good. And Daniel Jones has looked so good. His pass, he's ripping them. He's staying in the pocket. He's moving around. He's running like. There's been no film of Daniel Jones. It's like, well, he got lucky. He's. He hasn't been playing well. He can only play the defense as he's. He's been scheduled against so far. And. And one of them was the Denver defense when he was a top six quarterback.
Mike Wright
Do you remember?
Jason Moore
Do you remember?
Mike Wright
I wasn't sure if we were going Earth, Wind and Fire or Michael Jackson.
Jason Moore
No, we did it together.
Andy Holloway
We.
Mike Wright
We all jumped in a time machine a couple weeks ago before the season started.
Jason Moore
Right. I remember that.
Mike Wright
And we had to.
Jason Moore
Not a lot of room.
Mike Wright
And it was, who's going to be. Who's Sam Darnold? Remember my answer?
Andy Holloway
Was it. Was it Daniel Jones? Good answer. Good answer. You remember Andy's answer? Yeah, good answer.
Mike Wright
Good answer.
Jason Moore
He's really nailing the Darnold this year.
Mike Wright
Darnold. I think Darnold's good. He might be good.
Jason Moore
Do you remember when Malik, neighbors said quarterback wasn't the problem when they moved off.
Andy Holloway
Oh, yeah.
Jason Moore
When they moved off of Daniel Jones.
Andy Holloway
And he was adamant. He was like, guys, I'm telling you, the quarterback isn't the issue. And they're like, well, what is the issue? And he's like, he knew. And he's like, I'm not.
Jason Moore
Yeah. For you to figure out.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
We're all trying to figure out who did this.
Jason Moore
Yeah. No.
Andy Holloway
Do you remember when Carolina had Sam Darnold and Carolina had Baker Mayfield and they were like, man, we can't figure this quarterback position out.
Mike Wright
Sorry Panthers.
Andy Holloway
I can't wait for Bryce's next team.
Jason Moore
Oh my goodness. Tyler Warren. By the way, here are all the whiteouts and tight ends in the NFL with more yards after the catch than Tyler Warren.
Andy Holloway
No, no, that's not true.
Jason Moore
No, I just read the whole list.
Andy Holloway
You're telling me that yards after the catch, rookie tight end Tyler Warren is number one including wide receivers according to Kyle.
Jason Moore
Technically, Kyle's telling you that I want to make sure if it's wrong, but that's the case.
Andy Holloway
That's impressive.
Jason Moore
You're not playing any other whiteouts or taking shots on other whiteouts in Indianapolis. Just stick with the tight end and Michael Pittman.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I like to note here that is written DFS Adnai Mitchell because this I'm not going to recommend. Hey, pick him up and play him in your redraft leagues. Maybe if you're in a super, super deep, maybe you're in a chopped league and you're like, I don't have a guy. AD Mitchell might be on your waiver wire. And the reason Alec Pierce is out with a concussion and the Alec Pierce role has like it's, it's given us some.
Andy Holloway
Alec Pierce is the most unsung good player in the NFL. He never gets credit for anything. I mean he was 68 yards, 67 yards the last two weeks and got.
Jason Moore
Hurt in one of them. So Puka's in your lineup. Devonte Adams, watch for the injury situation. Jason start of the week if he's healthy, suppose he's the sit of the week if he's injured.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. If he doesn't play, please do not start him.
Mike Wright
If he doesn't practice today and you're like game time decision for Adam and he's active.
Andy Holloway
So if he is active after basically not practicing this week, he will move down drastically. But he's not a must bench. He's still very good. But if I've got another good option, like if I was looking at devonte Adams or Michael Pittman, I'm obviously starting devonte Adams if he practices right now. But if he doesn't practice the whole week and I've got a guy like Pittman, I'd be like, what I don't want to have happen is Adams go out there, try out the hamstring. Two snaps in, he's like, oh, that's tight. I'm going to take this one off.
Jason Moore
Should have just played Marv Good.
Mike Wright
The amount of people in third quarter of just getting tweet like I even tweeted. I tweeted, hey, you know, I'm like, on behalf of Arizona, yeah, dude, I am so sorry that you're having to watch it, dude. The responses are so funny because people like, yeah, you should be like, okay, take. It's a joke, my guy. Take it easy.
Jason Moore
I had somebody after the game be like, imagine starting that stack, you clown. I was like, this stack was great. Yeah, that stack was awesome. It ended up being, it was fine.
Mike Wright
Good play.
Jason Moore
It was good. All right, let's take a break. We'll talk about our next matchup.
Mike Wright
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Mike Wright
Called you a clown.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I mean, it's okay. It's okay. I was putting the makeup on quarters so I washed it off late. But I mean, by the way, thoughts on the rivalry jerseys for the Cardinals? Because I was a big fan.
Andy Holloway
I was a huge fan.
Mike Wright
I love, I love the helmet. I like the. You're wearing the cap. I like the cap on the jerseys.
Jason Moore
You don't like those. The like sand speckle mold on there.
Mike Wright
It's.
Jason Moore
I don't know.
Mike Wright
It's. I'm still TBD.
Jason Moore
Yeah. All right. Jacksonville two and one, San Francisco three and oh, Vegas line, San Fran minus three over under 46 and a half. I don't know what the Jacksonville Jaguars are. I feel like, you know, on some levels, on some plays, you know, Travis ETN being resurrected a bit. You feel kind of good for a minute. But then most of it has been disjointed. Like targeting Travis Hunter has been a bad bet right now. Five targets of 10 plus yards down the field leading to two picks. No three picks, one almost interception and a diving incompletion. They want to get Hunter the ball. It's not working. They want to get Brian Thomas Jr. The ball. It's not working. They're throwing it to him like right now. Their defense is, you know, holding them up a little bit compared to what it did last year. But do they stand any chance in this matchup?
Andy Holloway
I think they do stand a chance. They have good defense. Yeah, their defense looks so much better than last year. Last year we were targeting the Jaguars. This is one of those, like we're, you know, almost a month into the season and I believe what I've seen from the Jacksonville Jaguars, you know, Josh Hines Allen has looked awesome. And so I, yeah, I mean this is, this is a team that I think can get after Brock or can get after Mac Jones. We're not 100% sure who's starting right now. I think I expect Brock to play, but we don't, we don't know that entirely. And, and while the Kansas City, or I'm sorry, the San Francisco defense looks, I mean, metric wise, it's like, oh, Robert Salah, he's resurrected this defense. They look amazing. You know, they played the Arizona Cardinals offense that, I mean, yeah, you shut them down, but most people have the Saints pretty much shut them down. You played the Saints, like, okay, yeah, you shut them down, but they're the Saints. Everyone's shutting down.
Mike Wright
Bosa is out and.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. And they. And they lost Bosa. So I'm not.
Jason Moore
I honestly miss an opportunity for Jacksonville to.
Andy Holloway
I do.
Jason Moore
So you'd start etn.
Andy Holloway
Yes.
Jason Moore
Brian Thomas.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
Brent Strange if you need a tight end.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Strange is right on that streaming tight end.
Jason Moore
And we talked about something. I mean Christian McAfee right now on pace for 437 touches. That would be.
Andy Holloway
I guess the question that you have worry about it.
Mike Wright
Worry about it.
Jason Moore
Who's getting hurt at his expense right now?
Andy Holloway
Oh gosh, don't care who else.
Mike Wright
I'll sacrifice them all.
Andy Holloway
I think Peirce Hall's got it. I mean he's next man.
Jason Moore
So what were you going to say though?
Andy Holloway
But you had mentioned like maybe there was a world where they to keep him healthy this year. They limit his touches. That is definitively Christian McCaffrey.
Jason Moore
No hope he can hold up. So far so good.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I mean he can.
Mike Wright
We need a little bit better block in here from that oil line though.
Andy Holloway
Two out of every five years.
Jason Moore
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
This might be that year.
Jason Moore
DeMarcus Robinson A. If Juwan Jennings doesn't play would be a desperation start there. And don't play Tonjas MC basketball.
Mike Wright
No.
Jason Moore
And Brock Purdy, you're going to want to give him some time.
Mike Wright
Have we heard anything about Georgie Porgy Kittle like it. I feel like it's gone complete radio silence. Normally you hear hey, I mean George.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Mike Wright
He's on our chilling but usually you hear like a. Hey, things are looking good for George.
Jason Moore
Give it a couple more.
Andy Holloway
Yeah we'll hear when he. When he comes closer to the four week mark. The only other player that I think is maybe where if we're. If we're mentioning DeMarcus Robinson.
Jason Moore
Oh, I thought that was a tootin. That makes it a lot worse for me to make that sound.
Mike Wright
That was not a toot sound. No, that was a juicy toot sound.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that was a shoot.
Mike Wright
Yeah. You gambled and lost.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, he's still shooting but Parker Washington had 11 targets last week and Diamond Brown is not going to be active. He's.
Mike Wright
Is he like. Let me. Let's double check on Diami Brown.
Andy Holloway
He was limited in practice. He's got the shoulder injury. I mean I guess maybe he. But I'm expecting him to not so in a full PPR league. That's deeper.
Jason Moore
It's probably a better play than Travis Hunter because Travis Hunter is playing 53% of the snaps last week. It's gone down three straight weeks Parker Washington's gone up. If Diami Brown's out, then I think he's a better player than Hunter.
Mike Wright
And Coach Cohen did come out and say that if, If Diami Brown misses time, that doesn't mean more for Travis Hunter. Parker Washington would take that spot.
Jason Moore
Yeah, no, that's. I think what would happen. So Baltimore 1 and 2, Kansas City 1 and 2 games at Arrowhead.
Andy Holloway
Amazing.
Mike Wright
I'll jump in real quick, Andy, because I'm not going to hit the button, but Dan Quinn did just rule out Terry and Jaden.
Jason Moore
Okay, so they're both out.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Bets just posted it, so I'll. I'll get a confirmation on that.
Jason Moore
But how many completions in that game for Marcus Mariota?
Mike Wright
Ooh, how many.
Jason Moore
How many completions do you think?
Mike Wright
What was he on last week?
Andy Holloway
I feel like he's going to have like 16 completions.
Mike Wright
He was 15 of 21 last week.
Jason Moore
Now they're not favored last week. Heavily favored.
Mike Wright
I think maybe 18ish.
Jason Moore
Okay. How many of. How's the breakdown position wise?
Andy Holloway
You're. This is a Debo question. You're trying to. You're, You're. You are just trying to see how many targets.
Jason Moore
Well, I look Ertz as well.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, Ertz.
Mike Wright
Like if it's playable.
Jason Moore
If you look at the offense and I'm trying to manage Marcus Mariota, the thing I'm doing is design plays to my best players. And you're running out of them.
Mike Wright
Yeah, and I'm just going to try and run a ton.
Jason Moore
You don't have Eckler to throw, too. Maybe you don't have McLaurin to throw to.
Andy Holloway
Maybe McNichols is.
Jason Moore
I mean, he didn't get any targets.
Andy Holloway
Well, yeah, they didn't need him. They were blowing him out.
Jason Moore
But I don't look at him as the best catching back.
Mike Wright
McNichols.
Jason Moore
No.
Mike Wright
Who do you look at?
Andy Holloway
Yeah, who?
Jason Moore
Well, I mean, he's just not on the field enough. That's all I'm saying is it's like. Yeah, if you were playing them on third downs regularly. What was this snap percentage last week?
Andy Holloway
McNichols last week.
Jason Moore
And this is a blowout game. I mean, he's a 36 bet. I mean, to me, that's way too scary.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. Well, I mean, this was also under the pretext that if I think running back so misses the game.
Jason Moore
Oh, it was.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I was saying if it's. If it's Chris Rodriguez. We talked earlier in the news, like, if Bill didn't go, is Chris Rodriguez a Must start. And I was saying, is it. If Bill isn't there, is it Chris or Jeremy Nichols?
Jason Moore
That's a totally different discussion. That was what I. Yeah, I thought we were talking about what he had said, which was McLaurin. And I guess it's a good.
Andy Holloway
It's a good sign that if they're coming out and ruling those players out, that they're not ruling Bill Crosby.
Jason Moore
Ravens Chiefs at arrowhead. Baltimore -2 and a half over unders 48 and a half. Okay, here we go. Kansas City's won five of the six matchups between Lamar and Mahomes, including the playoffs. When this game, somebody said, hey, it's Baltimore, Kansas City. I didn't know right away where the game was. I just said, I'm going to take the home team in this matchup. I feel like that's the differentiator. Baltimore's favorite here.
Andy Holloway
Two and a half points. That is. That's wild to go on the road. I mean, Baltimore is a better roster right now. You look at the Chiefs, they've got a great defense. You look at the Ravens, they've got a good defense. Like they've. There's a lot of personnel on both sides here. You look at the two offenses, and Baltimore has been on fire and the Chiefs have been struggling, struggling to move the ball. So I understand why the Ravens are favored from a personnel standpoint, but this is tough to go on the road in Arrowhead after a, you know, a slug fest against the Lions. I'm with you, Andy. I'm picking the Chiefs on this side.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I've been. I've been disappointed with the Ravens defense, to be honest with you.
Andy Holloway
Well, sure. They've given up like over 100 points.
Jason Moore
Yeah. To me, they're like, sometimes they look really good, sometimes they break. I think on the road in Arrowhead, that noise. I think that the Chiefs can get it done. Now, this is all outside the context of fantasy. Like, the game has a high over under. I'm looking at this game. You're obviously playing the stars in this game. Lamar Jackson's in your lineup. Derek Henry's in your lineup. Zay Flowers should be in your lineup. Don't worry about last week. They ran very few plays. And the way that that game went, you know, it was. You know, Derek Henry had a huge role in that offense. You got the Mark Andrews involvement. I'm not worried about Zay Flowers personally. Yeah, it does show what can happen. Right. He's not an alpha in the prototypical sense. So he does disappear from Time to time. The question then to me is like, you play those three core players, what do you do with Mark Andrews? Do you chase what you got last week, Jason? You got big A.J. brown, big Mark Andrews last week.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I think Mark Andrews is playable. I assumed that Isaiah Likely was going to be back this week, and I think they need likely. Likely has been limited participant in practice, and he hasn't been on the field yet. I would imagine you're going to have full participation in practice before Likely actually takes the field in a. In a fantasy football, you know, way where you can start him. But if Likely is out. Yeah, I mean, Mark Andrews is fine. You look at last year on the season, the Chiefs great defense. The one place that they were exploitable was the tight end position. So he's like in a pinch Now, I will say this. If it was Andrews or Ertz, I'm going to go Ertz because I'm much more confident that, like, there are game plans where Mark Andrews is just into block.
Jason Moore
Okay. On the other side, way more complicated, way more challenging. We got a game in which we believe, two of us at least, that the Chiefs can win this game.
Mike Wright
The Ravens are covered if you want my opinion on what's happening for the game.
Jason Moore
Well, they're. They're okay.
Mike Wright
I think the Ravens are going to win this game by at least a touchdown.
Jason Moore
Okay. So, yeah, your opinion is different. Yes. Got it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, it's. It's up in the air, but where does the points come from? Where does points come from?
Andy Holloway
It really is. It's almost like what we've seen from Tyquan Thornton has been so necessary for the. The Chiefs that he might be the.
Jason Moore
Only player I want to play.
Andy Holloway
I mean, I think maybe you got to keep playing him.
Jason Moore
That's a flex, double flex situation. Yeah, but you think he's up above that.
Mike Wright
He.
Andy Holloway
He shouldn't be.
Jason Moore
No, he shouldn't be. Because you're going to need a big play.
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And you're in the. I mean, trade Tucker, Taekwond Thornton this week. What would you do there? That's the category.
Mike Wright
I think I'd go Thornton.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to go Thornton.
Jason Moore
Yeah. I mean, I might. I might not go either one because.
Andy Holloway
The thing is, is like the Chiefs. Do the Chiefs come out of this game? I have to imagine. Is this primetime?
Jason Moore
No.
Andy Holloway
Oh, wow. Crazy. The Ravens at Arrowhead and they don't prime time that. It's just like one of those things where Mahomes will hit some big play like it always happens and I just don't know that there's anybody else to hit it with.
Jason Moore
Where are you with Travis Kelsey on a start? Sit perspective this week because the people want to know it's a big name on your bench and you're sitting there going, do I really play Ertz? Do I really play Henry Hunter? Henry, Do I play Harold Fannin? Do I play Laporta? Like, where are you with Kelsey?
Andy Holloway
I'm playing all. I'm playing basically all those people you just named. I mean, Zach Ertz is available and I would play Zach Ertz over him.
Jason Moore
Even with Mariota?
Andy Holloway
Even with Mariota. Because you don't. You don't have Terry McClure in there. And like you said, if he completes 18 passes, how many are going to Ertz? You know he's going to be involved.
Jason Moore
Ferguson, Kincaid, both ahead of him.
Mike Wright
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jason Moore
I mean, I think it gets a little bit more murky if you're down in the Mark Andrews decision. Kyle Pitt's decision. Britain Strange decision.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I play him over Strange.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I'd play him over Strange. I'd play him over Pitts.
Jason Moore
Okay. Anybody else at the. I mean, we avoided running backs for the Chiefs. Yeah, you should have strategic.
Andy Holloway
If you're going to start one, it would be Hunt. I think you're looking for touchdowns.
Jason Moore
You should have gone D Markado.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's tough.
Jason Moore
I didn't. I didn't even rediscover that I started DeMarco until after that game. Otherwise I would have lost my mind during it. Chicago Raiders 1 and 2. Both of these squads we had. We have the Raiders 1 1/2 point home favorites, the over unders 47 1/2. The line has jumped back and forth. The Bears looked really good last week, but they're on the road here. And you know, I think this game has the potential to be very good for fantasy. Personally, I think that the Chicago defense has been really bad. They've lost pieces. We know that Jalen Johnson's getting core muscle surgery now. Chicago has given up a lot of. A lot of yards. You know, Geno Smith's been willing to throw the ball down the field. You have a game I'm pretty excited about for fantasy.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I would agree. I think.
Jason Moore
Who are your locks in this game?
Andy Holloway
Caleb Williams.
Mike Wright
Caleb, I thought we were talking the Raiders, Raider side.
Jason Moore
Both sides. Yeah, both sides.
Mike Wright
Like if Genty has a down week this week, then I will start to be concerned.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I told a lot of people.
Mike Wright
To go pick him up and I'm for that decision of if you can go get a workhorse running back who's just underperforming. But if you can't perform in this matchup, then you'll be like, when? When will it actually happen? When could it actually happen?
Jason Moore
Yeah. The principle behind acquiring Genti is that if you keep Giving Ashton Jinty 15 plus opportunities a week, you'll be happy with Ashton Genti. That's the principle.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
But we need the. The outcome to match.
Mike Wright
And I love Jacoby Myers. He's my start of the week. And Brock Bowers. Brock Bowers should be back to what you're used to.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, you got Michael Mayer still working through his concussion, didn't participate in practice this week, so he probably won't be active. Bowers is now, you know, going to be three weeks removed from the initial knee injury that he's been playing through. So Bowers is a lock.
Jason Moore
Dunes a lock.
Andy Holloway
Dunes A is absolutely a lock right now.
Jason Moore
There's a lot of the running backs though, on Chicago. This is an area where the Raiders so far have been very good in terms of not giving up a lot of fancy points to running backs. Do you play Swift? I mean, because of the running back landscape.
Mike Wright
He is just outside of my top 24.
Jason Moore
Just outside the top 24?
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Andy Holloway
Tony Pollard. Tony Pollard or DeAndre Swift?
Jason Moore
Pollard.
Andy Holloway
I'm Pollard there as well. Travion Henderson.
Jason Moore
That one's tough.
Mike Wright
The known work for Swift.
Jason Moore
I'm just so afraid. Like logic and rational coaching. It says a Henderson gets chances. What if he has three chances?
Mike Wright
It's in the range of outcomes.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to take my three chances on a big play.
Jason Moore
Well, we haven't. Yeah. So you'd play him over Swift?
Andy Holloway
I would.
Jason Moore
You'd play Henderson over Swift? Jason Moore. All right. Well, I mean, the last two weeks, 12 and 13 touches for DeAndre Swift. It's not been a ton of on the ground. It's been okay. Trey Tucker chasing that three touchdown game. You guys said you'd play Thornton over him. I mean, I. The thing I come back to with Tucker that made me feel more confident was the involvement, the snaps and the week one where he got into the end zone again. Geno Smith, we don't know who his favorite targets are on this offense yet, but it was nice to see Tucker involved. You're going to be.
Mike Wright
First two weeks it was Jacoby and then it was Trey Tucker.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you got to monitor that. It'd be nice to monitor from the bench, I think. See if you have something more long term.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Can you even start DJ Moore?
Jason Moore
No.
Mike Wright
I mean, like, I don't think so. The packers boys like Romeo Dobbs. Not golden, obviously. Good, because we're pretty pumped. But Romeo Dobbs in that matchup against Dallas or DJ Moore, probably Dobbs.
Jason Moore
DJ Moore's on pace for 765 receiving yards.
Andy Holloway
I'm going to lean on the DJ Moore side there, but I think that's a good. Like, that's where he is now.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
And Geno Smith, would you play him over Baker? There was. We didn't mention it in the news. Baker's managing a biceps injury.
Mike Wright
Yeah, we did just give an update on that matchup Bulls was talking about Baker, Godwin and Worfs said all those guys are questionable, but trending in the right direction. We'll see what happens tomorrow with Tristan and Chris Baker. Should be okay for Sunday.
Jason Moore
Okay. What's the answer then? Geno or Baker?
Andy Holloway
Man, it's tough. I personally would go Geno. I've got him in two different lineups. It feels so scary and stupid, though.
Jason Moore
Is he your legal record quarterback this week?
Andy Holloway
He is. I'm playing him over Dak if CD Lamb is ever officially ruled out and I can change my lineup.
Jason Moore
Okay.
Mike Wright
We're holding out hope. Yeah.
Jason Moore
This is just an inevitable out, isn't it?
Andy Holloway
Yes, it's just an inevitable out.
Mike Wright
They were talking about do we need to put him on the ir?
Andy Holloway
They literally said we're going to reevaluate in two weeks. Doubtful.
Jason Moore
All right, we will take a break and we'll get into Sunday night. Monday night.
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Jason Moore
Speaking of them Cowboys, Green Bay travels to Dallas. Green Bay two and one coming off a loss. Dallas one and two. Vegas line here. Green Bay minus seven over under 47 and a half. Dallas is hurting. We've got injuries. CD Lamb. We've already talked about it, but you've got your first round guard likely heading to IR for Dallas. You now lost your center for six to eight weeks. We talked about it a little bit on the trade episode on Wednesday. The fact that like I'm a little worried about Javante long term.
Mike Wright
Sure.
Jason Moore
I'm worried about Javante against Green Bay. They have been pretty much a force. They lost a really close game last week, but it wasn't like. I mean, I guess Judkins had a good game against them.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Moore
But I'm not. I'm not as confident that Javante gets into the end zone. This.
Andy Holloway
I don't think Javante is as good as Judkins.
Mike Wright
Scatter Boo. Against the Chargers or Javante against Green Bay.
Jason Moore
It's a great question.
Andy Holloway
Scatter Boo.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I'd go scatter Boo. It's not that great of a question, honestly. It's a mediocre question, Mike.
Mike Wright
Oh, man.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Mike Wright
I thought it was at least good.
Jason Moore
If we had disagreed, it would have been a great question.
Andy Holloway
I think one of the biggest.
Mike Wright
Travis Etienne or Javante Williams?
Andy Holloway
Etn come up with a good question, Mike.
Jason Moore
Try to do a good question.
Andy Holloway
He just has questions.
Jason Moore
Medium to mediocre. Yeah, mediocre.
Mike Wright
Breece Hall. Oh, that's.
Andy Holloway
You did it, Mike.
Mike Wright
Third time's the try. You did it.
Jason Moore
Andy Breeze Hall.
Andy Holloway
Okay, cool. Next question.
Mike Wright
Pollard. Jeremy wants to know Pollard or.
Jason Moore
Oh, is that.
Andy Holloway
Or Jamal is like the standard.
Jason Moore
I don't have that. I just thought. I think that one is a great question, Al.
Mike Wright
Oh, what? Come on. What?
Jason Moore
I love that question. It was really well thought out.
Andy Holloway
What?
Mike Wright
Yeah, thank you.
Jason Moore
I will take.
Andy Holloway
I don't want to give onte. Yeah. I don't want to say that Javante is unstartable here. This is the running back. Six through three weeks. He's been very good. They're going to need him and his utilization has been awesome. But without the same center and Guard he's had with CD Lamb removed from, you know, you're going to have an easier time at the line of score.
Jason Moore
I hope he can catch some passes that would, that would make things.
Andy Holloway
And he has been.
Jason Moore
Yeah. Last week he only had 10 attempts on the ground. Did not score for the first time on the ground. Ended up at running back 25. I think that's about where I have him slotted in this week. Jordan loves my start of the week. Matthew Golden's my start of the week. On the Green Bay side. Josh Jacobs is Jason's start of the year for the rest of the season. So looking forward to seeing how Jacobs breaks out, gets back into the end zone maybe once or twice. We'll see. Romeo Dobbs, you can play him. You really can.
Mike Wright
Yeah.
Jason Moore
You don't have to be excited about it. Just do it. Tucker Kraft, we finally had a down, down performance.
Mike Wright
Knee is hurting well because he was going to be out for the year.
Jason Moore
Where's that dog Mike?
Mike Wright
He played.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, the dog was on the field.
Jason Moore
So you can play poorly.
Andy Holloway
Oh, absolutely.
Jason Moore
Through injury and be a dog.
Mike Wright
If it's a season ending injury and you play through it, then you're a dog.
Jason Moore
That, I mean, that stands the reason Mac Jones is the dog. Mike.
Mike Wright
No, he left. He just. He. Most guys would have gotten surgery.
Jason Moore
Oh, okay. He still didn't play.
Mike Wright
Yeah, he left the game.
Jason Moore
Play George Pickens. Tucker away Dak on your bench.
Andy Holloway
He's. Yeah, Pickens is very interesting to me. Yeah, he is. I'm like scared as all get out right now about Pickens because we without CD like Pickens was a my guy.
Mike Wright
The wide receiver too.
Andy Holloway
Because he was the wide receiver too for this team is perfect for him. Now it's like the defense is going okay.
Jason Moore
There's pretty much this guy over under 9 targets.
Andy Holloway
I would take the under on that.
Jason Moore
See, I think he's guaranteed nine or more.
Mike Wright
I'll go over. He's been at nine targets the past two weeks.
Jason Moore
That's why I picked that.
Andy Holloway
I know.
Mike Wright
Yeah. Yeah, I was letting Jason know that.
Jason Moore
So you, I mean, all the concerns aside though, Jason, is he slotting in as more of a wide receiver too for you?
Mike Wright
He is.
Andy Holloway
He's not a must start to me, but he, he projects to get volume.
Jason Moore
Jake Ferguson is a must start.
Andy Holloway
Oh, she is. Goodness gracious. The only place that the packers have really been beat this year is really the tight end position.
Mike Wright
And Ferguson's going to over under 21 targets.
Andy Holloway
I guess I'll take the push.
Mike Wright
You're pushing.
Jason Moore
I'll take the under. All right. Monday Night Football. Do you know we got the double header at.
Mike Wright
Yes.
Jason Moore
At the different times, but they're still playing at the same time.
Mike Wright
Just an hour. We got to stagger them.
Jason Moore
An hour for lit screen, baby.
Mike Wright
Reason.
Andy Holloway
Look, now that we're weird. No, I mean, I hate it. It's. It's actually pretty awesome. Personally.
Jason Moore
We like it.
Andy Holloway
We like it. I mean I'm on YouTube TV, so it's like I just do. I do the two things that.
Mike Wright
Am I the only one who hates it?
Jason Moore
I like it.
Andy Holloway
I like it.
Mike Wright
Okay. Yeah, I'm weird.
Andy Holloway
I was with you, man, the first time they did it. I was like. But with the split screen where you can just have the audio go back and forth between the two games.
Mike Wright
I love the island games because it's like it's an event.
Jason Moore
It's isolated attention. On Twitter we're all.
Mike Wright
You know when Game of Thrones, when you had to watch it live, it was like everyone in the world, we're all watching the exact same thing at the exact same time and we can have a conversation on Twitter and it's just fragment.
Jason Moore
Don't you have an HOA meeting at that time anyways that you're going to miss this for?
Mike Wright
Well, I'm running. Yeah, I got. Do I. Can I count on your vote or what?
Jason Moore
Yeah. Yeah. You're the man for the job.
Mike Wright
The jets more dual Monday Night Football.
Jason Moore
The jets are 0 and 3. The dolphins are 0 and 3. The Vegas line, Miami minus 2 and a half. The over unders 45 and a half. You look at this division and Buffalo could like put on blindfolds and win this division right now. The way those other three teams look, we. We went into the seasons, you know, it's like, oh, you know what the New England, they don't. They look okay at best. Okay to bad. And then you know, Buffalo a dominant force again. The jets and Dolphins are winless. No sideline dance victories yet here for Aaron Glenn. Okay, here we go. We get to play Monday night Football. We got a 45 and a half point over under Justin Field. Should be back out on the field. The last time we saw him on the field it was bad. It was against Buffalo and I had bought in. So I'm bitter.
Mike Wright
But I get it. It was against Buffalo. If the. You're going to want to have some clarity on just for sure knowing that Fields is going to play. But if he's going to play, then I'm starting.
Jason Moore
I would start him does that go like Baker vs Fields or are you talking a tier below that? Like, I would go Fields over Baker.
Mike Wright
You would?
Andy Holloway
Yeah.
Jason Moore
See, Fields. Fields, unfortunately, going on the road with some of. I mean, he was 11 for 27 through three quarters. Okay. Yeah, but I know it's.
Andy Holloway
How was Kyler through three quarters? No, I'm just saying you didn't. He didn't play a whole game.
Jason Moore
And 11 for 27 is rough. A 39 passer rating is rough. I'm not. Two fumbles, That's. That's pro. Look, you look at the career, there's a lot of that. That's all I'm saying. Like, if I, I would not play him over Baker.
Andy Holloway
But that was Buffalo, right? Not Miami. And the Dolphins have lost their secondary. I would. I think I'll take that gamble because Baker against the Eagles with some injuries there, I, I mean, I get it. It's a gamble, but I think if.
Jason Moore
I had that Baker tier, I'm not doing it. So we disagree on that one. Devon Hn, Breece Hall. You can play them both.
Mike Wright
Yep.
Jason Moore
Garrett Wilson. Yes. Tyree Killen. Yes. The last two weeks he's been, he's been viable.
Andy Holloway
Can you start Waddle?
Jason Moore
I thought you were going to say Waller. And I was like, no, you can't. You can't start. Darren Waller. I don't know what Darren Waller has done to get this free money.
Mike Wright
Is Waller potentially actually playing?
Andy Holloway
I doubt it. I think he's ramping up. They're looking for week 16.
Jason Moore
He's limited.
Andy Holloway
It's. He's. He's trying to go up that ramp.
Mike Wright
The world's longest ramp.
Andy Holloway
It was that Red Bull.
Jason Moore
He says.
Andy Holloway
Climbing for a while.
Jason Moore
He's still on track to make his debut. He's on track to make his debut in this game.
Andy Holloway
Wow.
Mike Wright
But it's on Monday. We have plenty of time for a setback. Trying to channel some, you know, back to waddle.
Andy Holloway
Is that a touchdown? Each of the last two weeks. He has five receptions each of the last two weeks.
Jason Moore
So if he's healthy, I'm fine playing him.
Andy Holloway
He's never healthy.
Jason Moore
You caught me.
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I mean, he'll go out a couple times in this game.
Jason Moore
You caught me.
Andy Holloway
I think you can start him.
Jason Moore
No, I do too. I think he's a flex worthy wide receiver to play three.
Mike Wright
Wide receiver, three.
Andy Holloway
All jokes aside, it will be interesting to keep your eyes on Darren Wall.
Jason Moore
I mean, who do you think wins this ball game? I think the Dolphins. I think the Dolphins win this game. Going away.
Andy Holloway
I Think the Dolphins win this game by five.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I, I guess we'll see.
Andy Holloway
The Dolphins are usually like this game.
Jason Moore
You can watch the other one that's going on at the same time.
Andy Holloway
You look, I got bad news for you.
Mike Wright
It's the Bengals.
Jason Moore
Bengals, Broncos.
Andy Holloway
The Mike McDaniel era of the Dolphins. This. The Dolphins have looked good against bad teams. That is like their specialty. So if you want to say that, the Dolphins will have a great game. I get that.
Jason Moore
Yeah, they showed some fight against Buffalo last week. You know, that was.
Andy Holloway
That was closer than the final score for sure.
Jason Moore
Cincinnati 2 and 1, taking on the Denver Broncos in Denver. Denver 1 and 2. The Vegas line is Denver -7 and a half. The over, under is 44 and a half. This is not. I won't go almost upset, but I actually think Cincinnati is going to keep the game closer because this is just setting up to be a little bit of a trap, I think, for Denver at home after how bad Cincinnati was last week. You know, Bo Nicks, independently of, you know, they're one and two. That's a reflection on how he's played. They've been close. He's not been that good. No, he's been really up and down.
Andy Holloway
The Broncos have disappointed me quite a bit. I mean, they, they had a game against Tennessee to start the season where they just. They were terrible. They won because it was Tennessee, but they weren't good. And then they've lost their next.
Jason Moore
I'm not sure the Sean Payton play calling thing is still working the way it used to work. I'm not sure I like everything I'm seeing from a play calling perspective.
Mike Wright
But having said that, I like them this week.
Jason Moore
Yeah, this week. I mean, you should get production. Your start of the week at quarterback, your start of the week at Running Back and J.K. dobbins. The world waits for RJ Harvey to be more involved. The gap in involvement is so vast right now, I don't really see a takeover scenario happening anytime soon, if at all, this season.
Andy Holloway
No reason Dobbins is. Dobbs is playing really, really good football.
Jason Moore
When you look at the wide receiver room, Cortland Sutton still sitting right around. Wide receiver 15 on the year. Is it Troy Franklin next man up?
Andy Holloway
I think Troy Franklin is. He's still the one with the snaps as the wide receiver too. So, yeah, he's next man up.
Mike Wright
He's still playable.
Andy Holloway
Not. I don't know if he's as playable.
Mike Wright
In this matchup for Troy Franklin.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, I mean, if Andy's right, that. The, that The Bengals show up and make this a competitive game, then I'm a little bit more excited for Troy Franklin.
Jason Moore
Yeah, I think Franklin, to me, is in the watch category still.
Andy Holloway
Yeah, that's where I have him.
Jason Moore
I can't. I can't imagine you have a team that's. I mean, if you're in a super deep league, I guess we're talking about.
Mike Wright
Starting Thornton and Trey Tucker.
Jason Moore
That's fine. That's fine. You'd play. You'd play. I would not play Franklin over those two guys.
Andy Holloway
I would not.
Jason Moore
He'd be at the third for me.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I think he's in that same.
Jason Moore
Tier just because, I mean, just tough. You could get nothing. Like you could get zero. We have, by the way, J.K. dobbins is one of only four running backs to be top 15 all of the weeks. James Cook, Bijan, CMC and J.K. dobbins. Pretty impressive. Not impressive. Chase Brown, Jake Browning. If Brown's in your name, scoring points ain't your game.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. So it's such a bummer so far.
Andy Holloway
Week one, 43 rushing yards. Week two, 47 rushing yards. Week three, three rushing yards. He has not looked good. He was never a special enough player to just demand everything. He was opportunity on an incredible offense. The opportunity is still there. You know, he's still getting 15 opportunities this last week. That's enough for fantasy. But if you're on a bad offense.
Mike Wright
Yeah, and I'm not excited about Chase Brown. The. Oh, my gosh. Their schedule. It's Denver, Detroit, Green Bay are the next ones. Because what I was going to point out is week one was Cleveland like Cleveland. He put up 43 rushing yards against Cleveland where Derek Henry and Josh Jacobs did jack squat against that defense. Then Jacksonville.
Jason Moore
Who?
Mike Wright
Jay, we agreed that I think that Jacksonville is a better defense than we got. We got to start reorienting. Retrain your brain on that because they were so bad. And then Minnesota. Minnesota won the game with defense. So that's not a say to play Chase Brown. That's a disappointment.
Andy Holloway
Maybe it's not as bad as it's been.
Mike Wright
Yeah. And once we get to like, week seven.
Andy Holloway
Right. But I was going to say this. I mean, the next three weeks.
Mike Wright
No, thank you.
Jason Moore
T. Higgins.
Mike Wright
Prefer not. Let's see. DK Metcalf against Minnesota. Or T. Higgins.
Jason Moore
Oh, Metcalf by a lot.
Mike Wright
Okay, Michael.
Jason Moore
Terrible question.
Mike Wright
Michael. Pittman.
Andy Holloway
Pittman.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Pittman. I mean, Higgins is bottom of the barrel.
Mike Wright
Okay. Romeo Dobbs.
Andy Holloway
Higgins.
Jason Moore
Yeah, Higgins.
Mike Wright
Okay. And then I'll give you one More bottom of the barrel. Jerry. Judy.
Jason Moore
I'll play Higgins.
Mike Wright
All right.
Jason Moore
That way I haven't. That way I'm not playing Judy.
Mike Wright
That's not a bad strat.
Jason Moore
All right, some more injury updates before we turn to the Fantasy Face Off. Jalen Warren still been limited in practice. Johnny Smith, limited. Truba Hubbard listed as questionable with the calf injury. Ted McMillan questionable, expecting to play. And Tavian Sanders and Xavier Leggett ruled out of that game, as well as Alec Pierce with the concussion. Ruled out. So your dart. Throw your dfs. Adonai Mitchell, someone you could look at Looking.
Andy Holloway
Update cd Lamb not yet.
Mike Wright
Ruled out.
Jason Moore
No.
Andy Holloway
Doubtful.
Mike Wright
Fingers crossed.
Andy Holloway
Doubtful.
Jason Moore
All right, let's get to it.
Andy Holloway
Fantasy Face off, presented by prize picks.
Jason Moore
Last week, Mike went 4 for 4, all four of his yeah, baby picks. We won, delivered, and I ended up two out of four. Tyler Warren ended up six yards shy, and Ken Walker did not get to his yardage total. And Jason, you ended up not too well. Last week, you ended up with the Wheel of Shame.
Mike Wright
That's why.
Andy Holloway
Wheel of Shame. All right, spin that wheel.
Mike Wright
Read them up. See what we got there.
Andy Holloway
We got reporter. We got Rainy Day, mtv, Cringe, and Snork.
Jason Moore
What is Snorks?
Andy Holloway
Oh, this is gonna be a snorkel, isn't it? Oh, son of a gun.
Jason Moore
Make sure that cap goes on first. Wait, you gotta put on your swimming cap, Jay. Oh, this is good.
Mike Wright
All right.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Oh, baby, you gotta.
Mike Wright
You're gonna be looking at the fishes. That was a snap.
Andy Holloway
Okay.
Jason Moore
Okay. Yeah, that's good for the audio.
Mike Wright
All right. The. The. The glasses situation.
Jason Moore
Yeah, you're gonna have to need to pop those off. Can you want to jump in?
Mike Wright
Can you read your. I can line up.
Andy Holloway
I can zoom in.
Jason Moore
Can you, please? Does he have to put the snorkel?
Mike Wright
Oh, for sure.
Andy Holloway
No. Oh, no.
Jason Moore
You gotta be able to talk between.
Andy Holloway
Okay. All right. Looks.
Jason Moore
Looks pretty good. All right, we're going to blitz this week's pick, starting with the quarterback position. I'm going. Jordan love more than 5.5 rushing yards.
Mike Wright
Jason Voorhees.
Andy Holloway
That is the same one I have.
Mike Wright
You cover that nose. No, with the mask.
Andy Holloway
Is it wrong? Water's getting in my nose. Oh, okay. That's way worse.
Mike Wright
Yeah, that's the point.
Andy Holloway
Oh, gosh. Okay.
Jason Moore
Fogging up. You said, Jordan love more than 5.5.
Andy Holloway
That is the same one I have. We've been. We've been actually doing this. This projection has been six and a half the last couple weeks, and we've been going more and Having great success.
Jason Moore
All right.
Mike Wright
You are getting real foggy.
Andy Holloway
I can't see anything.
Mike Wright
I'm going with Jake Browning. Less than 224 and a half passing yards.
Jason Moore
All right, running back position. I'm going. Amari and Hampton more than.
Andy Holloway
We're getting a real fog situation here, fellas.
Jason Moore
Omarion Hampton, more than 39.5 rushing yards.
Andy Holloway
What? Wow. That.
Mike Wright
I did not see that.
Andy Holloway
That one is good. Speaking of those bagels, he is full.
Jason Moore
For the audio listeners. His mask has fully fogged. He is in.
Andy Holloway
I'm supposed to be underwater right now.
Jason Moore
And you are?
Andy Holloway
Yeah. I'm going to take Chase Brown from the bagels. His projection is 53 and a half rushing yards.
Mike Wright
I didn't see that one either. Yeah.
Andy Holloway
And if you're curious if I'm going more or less than that.
Mike Wright
More. Don't be a coward.
Andy Holloway
I'm going less.
Jason Moore
Mike, who's the running back for you?
Mike Wright
I'm going with Jordan Mason. I like your guys so much more than mine. Okay, But Jordan Mason, 80 and a half rushing yards against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm going more, baby.
Andy Holloway
Whoa.
Jason Moore
My wide receiver.
Mike Wright
It's up there.
Andy Holloway
I like our way.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I do, too.
Jason Moore
Garrett Wilson, 65.5 receiving yards. I'm taking the more.
Mike Wright
Oh, man. We were going to fight.
Jason Moore
I'm taking the more. Garrett Wilson is too important.
Mike Wright
All right.
Andy Holloway
I'm going with huge. Quentin Johnston. He is at two and a half receptions. I'm going more than two and a half.
Mike Wright
All right. And I got Andy. Start of the week, Mr. Matthew Golden.
Jason Moore
Nice.
Mike Wright
More than 41 and a half. If the. This is a. Thank you. The rookie watch of Matthew golden against Dallas. If he can't perform there is going to be devastating. And Ashton Genti in that Bears matchup. Like, if these guys can't get it done this week, it'll.
Jason Moore
Those are two. Genti and Golden.
Mike Wright
Yeah. What are you doing there?
Andy Holloway
I got to be able to see what my tight end is. Forgive me.
Mike Wright
Okay. Andy, who's your tight end?
Jason Moore
Hunter Henry, 38 and a half receiving yards. I'm taking the more.
Mike Wright
All right.
Andy Holloway
I'm going. Dallas Goddard on his first two receptions.
Jason Moore
Did he forget the rest?
Andy Holloway
No.
Mike Wright
Oh, you're on one. I'm doing one of these.
Andy Holloway
I love. I love these. So 17 and a half yards on his first two receptions. Dallas Goddard is a dink and dunk guy. I'm going less than 17 and a.
Jason Moore
Half yards on his first two. On his first two receptions. That's interesting.
Mike Wright
I'm going Jake Fergalicious oh, boy. Four and a half receptions.
Jason Moore
Oh, boy.
Mike Wright
I'm taking them more.
Andy Holloway
Oh, boy.
Jason Moore
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Mike Wright
How are you making the mask dance?
Jason Moore
He's breathing in and out. And the. He.
Mike Wright
You're. I mean, you're going to hyperventilate my guy.
Jason Moore
Yeah, he is. All right, it's time to say goodbye. That is it. He's. Jason is snorked out. We are done. Enjoy the weekend, everybody. We've got Sunday Live.
Mike Wright
Yeah, I'll see everyone Sunday morning, bright and early. Goodbye.
Andy Holloway
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Date: September 26, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright
This episode delivers the classic Fantasy Footballers blend of sharp, matchup-winning analysis and genuine fan entertainment. The hosts dissect Week 4 matchups, break down Thursday Night Football’s wild swings, tackle major injury updates, and share their fantasy football insights across all critical positions. The show features a dissection of Marvin Harrison Jr.'s emotional performance, deep dives into player usage, and lively banter, capped off by the entertaining “Wheel of Shame” segment in the Fantasy Face Off.
[01:58] – [09:03]
"I've never ever in the 20 years of watching NFL seen a man catch a touchdown, down two scores and take a knee to cry..." [05:17]
Jason:
"The fourth quarter actually gives you hope for Marvin Harrison Jr. I'm playing Mike in fantasy... I ended with like 104 points." [05:41]
"Let the whole game play out before we make our final decisions… It really is a microcosm of society’s ills. We have immediate reaction." (Mike, [06:10], Jason, [06:52])
[09:04] – [12:33]
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[64:32] – [69:55]
On Immediate Overreactions:
“Let the whole game play out before we make our final decisions… It really is a microcosm of society’s ills.” — Mike Wright & Jason Moore, [06:52]
On Dynasty Despair:
“It almost made me violently ill. Yeah. Like I was nauseous with how embarrassing this performance was.” — Jason Moore, [04:51]
On Kenneth Walker:
“Kenneth Walker is the best worst player ever. He is simultaneously the best and dumbest player I've ever seen.” — Jason Moore, [10:10]
On Trusting the Process:
“If you keep giving Ashton Genti 15-plus opportunities a week, you’ll be happy with Ashton Genti. That's the principle.” — Jason Moore, [44:18]
Fantasy Lessons:
“If he doesn't practice the whole week and I've got a guy like Pittman, what I don't want to have happen is Adams go out there, try out the hamstring. Two snaps in, he's like, oh, that's tight. I'm going to take this one off.” — Andy Holloway, [26:39]
For a complete breakdown, including every matchup, player start/sit discussion, injury news, and more, tune in to the full Fantasy Footballers Week 4 episode!