Week 4 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Fart Sniffing

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast - Week 4 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Fart Sniffing
Released on September 24, 2019

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1. Monday Night Football Recap and Fantasy Implications

Andy Holloway opens the discussion by recounting his recent fantasy football matchup during Monday Night Football. He shares his frustrating experience as a David Montgomery owner battling against Al Borland’s Chris Thompson.

"[00:49] Andy Holloway: ... I was looking dire as a David Montgomery owner for me... Chris Thompson... killed the clock and Montgomery breaks off a 25-yard run... Chris Thompson dump offs... beat me by 0.6."

This narrow loss highlights the volatility of fantasy football and sets the stage for the hosts to delve into waiver strategies and player evaluations for the upcoming week.

2. Matt Nagy and the Chicago Bears' Offensive Struggles

The hosts shift focus to Matt Nagy, the Bears' head coach, criticizing his decision-making and the offensive line management, particularly regarding Khalil Mack.

"[04:01] Andy Holloway: ... Matt Nagy receives Khalil Mack... Matt Nagy believes he is the smartest man alive... unreliable head coach for fantasy purposes."

Jason Moore echoes these sentiments, emphasizing Nagy's ineffective play-calling and the team's inability to utilize their running backs effectively.

"[05:12] Jason Moore: ... Matt Nagy is a good offensive coach, but you cannot trust Matt Nagy."

The consensus is clear: Nagy's strategies are detrimental to the Bears' fantasy value, making them a questionable choice for fantasy players.

3. Player Spotlight: Terry McLaurin and Rashad Penny

A significant portion of the discussion centers around Terry McLaurin, the Redskins' wide receiver, and Rashad Penny, a running back for the Seahawks.

Mike Wright praises McLaurin's talent and potential, especially his impressive touchdown reception against the Bears.

"[07:20] Mike Wright: ... that touchdown reception was exceptional for a rookie."

However, Jason Moore expresses concern about McLaurin hitting a rookie wall and the potential emergence of Dwayne Haskins affecting his target share.

"[07:48] Jason Moore: ... some rookies hit a rookie wall, but you combine that with... Case Keenum."

Regarding Rashad Penny, the hosts discuss his injury and potential impact if he returns healthy.

"[32:01] Mike Wright: He should be picked up."

4. Waiver Wire Analysis: New York Giants Players

Mike Wright highlights the surprising influx of four valuable players from the New York Giants available on the waiver wire.

"[12:04] Mike Wright: There are four players from the New York Giants that are worth picking up this week."

The players discussed include Sterling Shepard, Marvin Jones, Terry McLaurin, and DeMarcus Robinson. The hosts debate the viability of each, considering factors like player performance and upcoming matchups.

5. Streaming Options: Quarterbacks and Defenses

The podcast addresses optimal streaming options for quarterbacks and defenses for Week 4.

Andy Holloway recommends Philip Rivers for a steady performance against Miami.

"[41:53] Andy Holloway: ... I'm taking Philip Rivers against Miami. Rivers had a 13-point week and is a lock for a passable performance."

Jason Moore prefers streaming quarterbacks like Matthew Stafford and Daniel Jones, citing their potential to bounce back after underwhelming performances.

"[43:10] Jason Moore: ... Matthew Stafford is going to have to play catch up... I still have the confidence to play him."

On defense, Andy Holloway favors the Packers Defense and the Steelers Defense, anticipating turnovers and strong defensive performances.

"[45:53] Mike Wright: I like the Packers Defense as well."

6. Running Back Waiver Pickups: Wayne Gallman and Others

A deep dive into running back options on the waiver wire, particularly focusing on Wayne Gallman from the New York Giants.

Andy Holloway is torn between his confidence in Gallman's upside and the uncertainty of his workload.

"[26:13] Andy Holloway: ... we don't necessarily see the ceiling for Wayne Gallman."

Mike Wright underscores the importance of securing Gallman despite his questionable ceiling, highlighting his role as a potential tradable asset.

"[27:10] Mike Wright: ... I'm still going after Gallman."

Other running backs discussed include Darrell Williams, Ronald Jones, and Rashad Penny, each evaluated based on their current performance and future potential.

7. Tight Ends and Receiver Decisions

The hosts evaluate tight ends like Will Disley and receivers such as Vernon Davis and Deontay Johnson, weighing their current usage and future prospects in fantasy lineups.

"[34:05] Andy Holloway: ... Will Disley is the pickup."
"[37:34] Jason Moore: ... I have to make this decision, and I am going to be dropping him [Antonio Brown]."

8. Final Recommendations and Closing Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, the Fantasy Footballers provide strategic advice on managing rosters, emphasizing the importance of adaptability and informed decision-making based on weekly performances and matchups.

"[39:54] Jason Moore: ... I'm holding them [Rashad Penny]."

The hosts encourage listeners to stay engaged with waiver wire opportunities and continuously reassess their team dynamics to stay competitive throughout the season.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Andy Holloway ([02:34]): "I'm surprised you're here this morning, Andy."
• Jason Moore ([03:15]): "Matt Nagy thinks his farts smell good."
• Mike Wright ([07:20]): "That touchdown reception was incredible for a rookie."
• Andy Holloway ([25:19]): "If you knew the future, for example, sure I would be willing to spend, you know, 40 bucks on FAB to just have that guy that can be in my lineup every week."
• Jason Moore ([37:37]): "I have to make this decision, and I am going to be dropping him [Antonio Brown]."

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Conclusion

This episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast provides comprehensive insights into Week 4 waiver strategies, player evaluations, and streaming options. The hosts dissect recent performances, forecast future potentials, and offer strategic advice to help fantasy managers optimize their rosters. Key takeaways include cautious optimism around players like Terry McLaurin, strategic pickups from the Giants' roster, and a nuanced approach to streaming quarterbacks and defenses.

By tuning into this episode, fantasy football enthusiasts can gain valuable knowledge to navigate the complexities of their leagues, making informed decisions to secure victories in the weeks ahead.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

Foreign to the Fantasy Footballers podcast coming to you from pristineauction.com studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, welcome in. Fantasy football is a cruel myth mistress.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Tuesday, September 24th I'll tell you why in a minute. Andy, Mike and Jason, the fantasy footballers. Back with you, it's waiver day. We've got news. We've got streaming quarterbacks, streaming defensive picks for week four. We had a Monday Night Football game last night. I was going mano a mano with Al Borland, one of our producers. It was looking dire as a David Montgomery owner for me. I fell behind. He had Chris Thompson, I had David Montgomery and it was kind of head to head and I felt good going into the night. And then Matt Nagy made me want to pass away. So we get down to this final drive for the Bears and they kill the clock and Montgomery breaks off a 25 yard run and he's getting the ball over and over again for the first time on the night and you finally see some of that patience and vision and tackle breaking and I've got a five point lead. I mean this is done. Under two minutes left. And here we go. Here we go with two Chris Thompson dump offs, including a game high 33 yard catch and run to beat me by 0.6.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man.

[Andy Holloway]

On literally the last meaningful offensive play of the game. 18 seconds left after that play. At that time I thought maybe 18 seconds left in my natural life.

[Jason Moore]

I'm surprised you're here this morning, Andy.

[Andy Holloway]

It's fine. I'm totally fine now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Did you hear about our writer, Kyle Yates? He had the exact same experience where he lost the game on that Chris Thompson 33 yarder that you say is practically the last play of the game, but then won it on the sack with the Bears defense. That was the last play of the game.

[Mike Wright]

Oh my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

Fantasy football.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that is insane. So. So yes, I am embittered as any fantasy football player would be after a tough defeat. However, we have another week of football ahead of us. Can turn it around. Obviously Albor has. Alborn has been relieved of his duties.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

He's been fired.

[Jason Moore]

And we are looking for a new producer.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's looking for work as well. I don't want to completely ruin this kind of why I want to find.

[Jason Moore]

Him another solid letter of recommendation.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, for you guys. From you guys. Right, right. Any other takeaways for Monday Night Football? Guys, I wrote down. Maggie is an annoying. Something. My. He's difficult to. He's a fart sniffer. Guys, Matt Nagy is a fart sniffer. He.

[Mike Wright]

I see where you're going.

[Andy Holloway]

He had a good year last year. And this all comes down to a Khalil Mack problem. Okay. Jon Gruden thought he was a great coach. Lost Khalil Mack, Traded him away. Traded him away.

[Mike Wright]

He was good enough to deal with.

[Andy Holloway]

Thought he was super smart. Yeah, traded him away. Hasn't worked out. Matt Nagy receives Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack ruins opposing offenses. Matt Nagy believes he is the smartest man alive. Matt Nagy starts to run Cordell Patterson and Mike Davis and Tariqohen in the backfield. Can't use David Montgomery. Doesn't run it around the goal line, which costs them on a goal line interception. He had some good play calls last night. The Redskins helped out. But he is an unreliable head coach for fantasy purposes. You cannot trust Matt Nagy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I totally agree that. I think Matt Nagy thinks his farts smell good. I'm down with that.

[Mike Wright]

But, Jason, we've been over this. But we all do.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, but we all think Matt Nagy's farts smell good.

[Jason Moore]

Ooh.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Actually, I've been around the band.

[Jason Moore]

Here's the thing.

[Andy Holloway]

After a beef sandwich, if they smelled like Andy Reid's.

[Mike Wright]

Wait, you know Andy Reid's.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I'm just saying. I imagine Andy Reid, the coaching tree. It's like McVeigh's cologne, only it's different. It's Andy Reid flatulence.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

So Doug. Doug Peterson's got it, too?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, yeah. His are sweet.

[Mike Wright]

Get the men some Beano.

[Andy Holloway]

Go on, Jason.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Where was I? Yeah. So I actually do think Matt Nagy is a good offensive coach, a good offensive mind, and I believe if he had a quarterback that could run the offense, that you would actually see that some of his designs are good. Now you can.

[Andy Holloway]

Having a better quarterback doesn't put core Darrell Patterson on the bench.

[Jason Moore]

No, but I think you ignore those things when. When they're. When the offense is working as a whole. Obviously, Trubisky Had a fine game. Three touchdowns in the second quarter. But most of that was gifted by the defense. Super short fields. Every pass from trubisky was like 2 yards deep is how it felt. So, you know. But I agree with you. You can't trust a bear right now. You cannot trust.

[Mike Wright]

Not on the, not on the field and not in the wild.

[Jason Moore]

Other than Jay Grizz. Yes, Jay, you're fine. Other than Jay Grizz, I don't think you could try. You can.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you do with Alan Robinson? What do you do with Montgomery now? So he, you know, last week, 18 carries. This week taken off the field in strange circumstances. I thought he was gonna have two goal line carries on those, both those plays. So he should have, you know, and then he still ends up in double digits after the last drive. It's just a strange situation.

[Mike Wright]

I, you know, frustrating forcing Patterson in there to play running back when you have David Montgomery and Tariq Cohen is just baffling.

[Andy Holloway]

And Mike Davis.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah. Just like we, okay, we moved past the Mike Davis problem and Nagy's like, what do we do here? Ah, yes, we'll put in Cordarrel Patterson.

[Andy Holloway]

Honestly, the biggest takeaway from last night's game in reality is that Terry McLaurin is right now the primary read for Case Keenum. Keenum had it an up and down, ugly then competent performance once again. 332 yards, two touchdowns. Seemingly willing to consistently throw the ball downfield in this game as they tried to come back. And McLaurin looks like a legit talent.

[Mike Wright]

That touchdown reception was, that was an incredible catch. But with the DB draped all over him, a hand in there also trying to strip the ball away like that was an incredible catch for a Rookie.

[Jason Moore]

I love McLaurin. I scooped him up and everywhere I could. But I'll be honest, I'm worried long term through the season. You know, some rookies hit a rookie wall, but you combine that with. At some point Haskins has to come in right now, but that could be.

[Andy Holloway]

Good for him because of the collegiate connection. Like Haskins. At least now I guess, I guess the argument would be made. Haskins isn't going to throw for 330 yards a game like his. Keenum.

[Jason Moore]

That's my whole argument is the yardage of the offense is not going to be there for Case, for Haskins the way it is with Keenum.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe in McClory.

[Jason Moore]

I do too.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe, I believe in him season long.

[Jason Moore]

Even if they switch to Haskins, even.

[Andy Holloway]

If they switch, maybe Even more.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, even more. I mean, just so you know, Case Kingdom right now, the three games we've seen with Terry McClure, he's on pace for 5,000 passing yards.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't care.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Because this team is going to be down in every single game and Dwayne Haskins is going to have to figure things out. And he's got a guy that. Look, if Terry McLaurin has a greater target share with Haskins and he throws for 50 fewer yards, I don't care. I just think McLaren's a talent that they need to develop. And I. He. Is he going to score 16 touchdowns? No. No. So, you know, last night Paul Richardson technically had a better game. Eight for 83 and a touchdown. McLaren, six for 70 and a touchdown. Taylor Gabriel, six for 75 and three. I don't think we need to talk about this.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Or ever, ever again. Chris Thompson taking me out.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Now, as a fantasy owner, when you lose by less than a point, you start to think about possible pathways for a stat correction. And I'm remembering at the end of the game that inside handoff Borland where Chris Thompson took it inside and then gained like a yard and then the Bears acted like there was a fumble that he recovered. So I'm hoping that we go to the scorers table on Thursday and there's.

[Mike Wright]

A minus and there is a real.

[Andy Holloway]

Fumble on that play. I don't know how, but that's my desperate hope and I would. I'd rehire you in a minute. I'd rehire you quick. Pete Carroll said we still believe in Chris Carson despite the ball security issues through three weeks and then said that he would show that they still believed in him with actions on the field.

[Jason Moore]

So, yeah, he went on to say we get to play the Cardinals. So he's going to have a great game.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a quote.

[Jason Moore]

No, but it was in his mind. That was his subtext.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Chris Carson, you know, my worries for him long term will begin if this week is not a success against Arizona. Don't know Rashad Penny status, but Carson will have work. He had 15 carries last week. Give him 15 against Arizona. As Jason said, they won't poke it out. Poke the ball out. Kyle Shanahan believes Tevin Coleman has a good chance to be back following the bye week along with Jalen Hurdle. Try to trade your Matt Burrito.

[Mike Wright]

I would hold on to Burrito, but most dirt will get put on the bench, I would imagine. And my Name is Jeff Wilson. We'll see if he's even on the roster anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

This is big news. Injury update. Panthers quarterback Cam Newton believed to be dealing with a list frank injury plan is now to rehab it. It looks like a four to eight week injury. Kyle Allen will be the man in Carolina.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this was. This was unfortunate. I mean that preseason foot is fine. Yeah, the preseason.

[Mike Wright]

Don't even ask me about it.

[Jason Moore]

Clearly derailed the whole season for Cam Newton. It stinks. But the truth is Kyle Allen might be better for your Curtis Samuel, your DJ Moore. At this point it's possible.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Else you won't have it.

[Andy Holloway]

And information. That's that too. Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Let me in, coach.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Waiver day.

[Mike Wright]

Now this is a day that's gonna go down in waiver wire infamy history, everything. Because on this waiver wire, I don't know if you guys have realized what is happening there.

[Andy Holloway]

I do not realize I'm.

[Jason Moore]

There are bated breath.

[Mike Wright]

There are four players from the New York Giants that are worth picking up this week. 4.

[Andy Holloway]

Write down where you were when this.

[Mike Wright]

Was like this will never happen again. Four players from the Giants are good pickups.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. We'll see if that's true or not in a couple weeks. The wide receivers the probably owned but worth checking on guys. Sterling Shepard, Marvin Jones, Terry McLaurin, DeMarcus Robinson. Now Mike has been floating DeMarcus Robinson in our dynasty league as as a little point rental. Are you feeling confident that Tyree Kill is going to miss this upcoming week?

[Mike Wright]

I honestly have no idea because we have. But I know if he does, then I'm playing DeMarcus Robinson.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure. Sure. Shepard is 75% on Marvin Jones. 68% McLaren 66%. Right now, Shepard had a big game seven for 101 on nine targets. One thing noted by our team, he ran 86% of his routes from the slot. So there was some question as to whether when Golden Tate returns the Sterling shepherd see some of that target volume diminish. I imagine it will.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, it likely does. However, without Saquon Barkley, we'll talk Wayne Gallman as a must add player. But Wayne Gallman's not as good as Saquon Barkley. Like they're going to.

[Jason Moore]

What?

[Mike Wright]

Sorry. Well, I should have warned everyone that I was about to blow mines. I apologize for that. They're going to have to throw more because they're not going to be able to hand off to Wayne Gallman and expect him to have some insane 25 yard run.

[Jason Moore]

And he's nowhere near. I mean, very few players are anywhere near Saquon when it comes to the receiving ability at the running back position. So his little dump offs, they could go to Sterling Shepard. Evan Ingram. Yeah, I think Sterling Shepherd's a great play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. In the more available wide receiver category, what are some of your favorite names? Personally, I think Philip Dorsett is a must add with what's going on. Antonio Brown. A lot of three wide receiver sets in New England. Dorsett should be on the field. Like, if you want to view him as Josh Gordon light for your team. I just think he's one of those situations where everybody views Josh Gordon with a certain trade value and throws Dorsett to the sideline where they're both on the field. I don't think Brady has any sort of preference there. And Dorsett's been very, very productive.

[Mike Wright]

And we have Julian Edelman is dealing with his chest injury. The latest reports are it's supposed to be minor, so I'm not expecting him to miss time, but you certainly have to factor that in. And these Patriots, they look like the old Patriots of we want to run up the score through the air. And Philip Dorsett has been heavily involved, except. Except for week two because Antonio Brown came in and they forced in the ball. But weeks one and week three, where Antonio Brown's not on the team. Philip Dorsett's had a good game.

[Andy Holloway]

They take on Buffalo this week.

[Mike Wright]

It's a tougher matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You imagine Tredavius White is on Gordon?

[Mike Wright]

Probably.

[Andy Holloway]

So this could be another sneaky start, I think, for Dorset, especially with this being a game for the division lead.

[Mike Wright]

Right. That's fascinating. That'll be a good in Buffalo. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it is in Buffalo. Yeah, that's right.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So I think the game line right now is New England minus seven.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What? Jay, Good.

[Jason Moore]

Good luck with that, Buffalo. Oh, I think New England covers. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

I do, too. DJ Chark. Three straight weeks with a touchdown. DJ Chark or Terry McLaren. Who would you rather have on your roster?

[Mike Wright]

I'd rather have McLaurin.

[Jason Moore]

Terry McLaurin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, McLaurin.

[Mike Wright]

But I think DJ Chark is an AV. He is a pickup. But we'll see how he can perform this week with, of course, Gardner Minshew. Can he keep it going? But we just saw Denver and Chris Harris. Harris was basically able to shut down Devonte Adams and I would think that the primary cover for Harris will be DJ Chark, but we'll see.

[Andy Holloway]

You also have Nelson Aguilar 54% owned two touchdowns last week, 12 targets. But we do expect Alison Jeffrey potentially play on Thursday. So that's a tough call on Aguilar.

[Jason Moore]

Not not only that, but this is the screen Bay defense I believe is for real. You know, there was a lot of talk last week about Emmanuel Sanders. You want to play him but the matchup looks a little poor and it was the Green Bay secondary was great and so Nelson Aguilar if Aljon's back against Green Bay, I'm not digging that as much as you know the the exact other side of the field Marquez Valdez scantling against Philadelphia. I would rather play over Nelson Aguilar, assuming Elshon is back.

[Andy Holloway]

Another name I want to bring up is Deontay Johnson because he played on 79% of stats for Philadelphia. I'm sorry for Pittsburgh. And he's a rookie. He's completely unowned. He was 3 for 52 and a touchdown. Mason Rudolph looked bad, but we also did not see the James Washington Mason Rudolph combination. So Deontay Johnson's a player that they want to develop, especially in a lost season. And if Juju is not going to command the kind of target share we thought he could before the season, which seems so far to be the case, certainly doesn't have any more of a rapport with Mason Rudolph than Deontay Johnson does. So I think in deeper leagues he would be an interesting stash has Cincinnati defense this week, but I like most of the other names we mentioned more than Deontay Johnson.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, the tough part is this is a really good matchup. So if you want to grab him and play him, go for that glory shot. Sure. But more than likely you're going to grab him, stash him, wait and see what happens. Oh, he has a good game then. Are you going to put him in the next week against Baltimore? You know, so now you're stashing him for multiple weeks for Mason Rudolph. I do think Deontay Johnson is a talented player. Could break out. Obviously the Steelers have a history of drafting wide receivers very well. He was their number one wide receiver on their board going into the draft. So yeah, worth the stash. But I agree with you Andy other player. I would rather have some of these other guys if they're available. The MVS Dorset.

[Andy Holloway]

We didn't mention McColl Hardman say what about Hardman?

[Mike Wright]

Jay, where are you temperature wise, I mean, he's only getting, you know, two to three catches a week. However, that's all you need. That's all you need from a wide.

[Jason Moore]

Receiver when they're 90 yards. I, it's, it's 100% Tyreek for me. For me. If Tyreek is gone this week, then you need to start McColl Hardman and if he's back, I wouldn't start McColl Hardman this week.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

Hey, Jason.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah?

[Mike Wright]

Those next gen stats, they're incredible. How are they powered?

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

You weren't sure?

[Mike Wright]

Wasn't sure.

[Jason Moore]

I hear they have the proof.

[Andy Holloway]

I hear those commercials, Mike. Last night I heard heard one of the commercials in the house. I'm not happy with the audio mix, Mike. I think I have nothing to do with it. I think they need more volume for these touchdown. The touchdowns at the end of these commercials where you're really giving it a lot of oomph.

[Jason Moore]

I feel like they should just, they.

[Mike Wright]

Should just turn off everything else and just go.

[Jason Moore]

Just have your voice, nothing else. You can't even hear the crowd.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

I tried. I think it was really funny. Last night they cut it off. I'm making the kids dinner and my boys. Hey, hey, dad, you're on tv.

[Andy Holloway]

I like how Reddit every day it's like three or four times after a commercial they're like, is that Mike Wright from the Fantasy Footballers? It sounds a lot like him.

[Jason Moore]

I am still every week getting congratulations because people can't tell our voices apart for some reason. Before we go to running backs, I need to do the Foot Clan and our producer a maybe a service, maybe a hardship. Brooks has. He has. He wants Dante Pettis everywhere he can get him. He's messaged me. He's a co owner one of my teams. He is putting this out there that he believes Dante Bettis can still have a second year breakout. His snaps have been going up. He had the injury early on, so I'm not picking him up personally. They got a bye week. I don't want to hold him through it. But if you're out there and you believe in Brooks, I know there's a lot of you out there. He's calling his shot. He's saying Dante Pettis is talented. The opportunity is rising. He could still break out in the second half of the year. That's for you, Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you. Jason.

[Jason Moore]

You summarized it perfectly. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

He had A game winning touchdown last week. Do you get extra points if they win the game with the touchdown? No, but you may get extra snaps.

[Mike Wright]

The next time, next game. He's not wrong.

[Andy Holloway]

It's fair that he may get extra snaps.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, like yeah, we're not.

[Andy Holloway]

Jalen Hurd is coming back too after the buy. So they got Debo Samuel and Richie James. And Jalen Hurd, Marquis Goodwin and George Kittle.

[Jason Moore]

And Dante Pettis.

[Andy Holloway]

And Dante Pettis. So all right. You gave Brooks his day in the sun. Brooks, you're also fired along with Al Borland.

[Jason Moore]

We are looking for producers.

[Andy Holloway]

You know Borland.

[Mike Wright]

Oh come on.

[Andy Holloway]

Borland beat me. So Wayne Gallman, I want to know what you really believe about Wayne Gallman because we know that Saquon is going to be out for a considerable amount of time. He has. They have Washington, Minnesota, New England on the schedule. I would not be surprised to see this team make a roster move in the coming days heading into the weekend. Gallman had 34 receptions as a rookie. But when you look at the only game he had double digit carries in last year, very inefficient, two point something a carry. I don't know right now. And no, it's our job to quote unquote no and make a call and I'm going to do that. But I don't know if Wayne Gallman is going to get the level of work that matches the fab spend people may invest tomorrow. So you know, out of $100 fab budget, what are you really spending on Gallman rental with you know Minnesota is going to be a tough matchup in New England's a tough matchup. Daniel Jones threw the ball one time on 25 routes run by Wayne Gallman. He threw it one time to Gallman. Clearly he was looking downfield. So where are you guys at with you know, this quote unquote gold mine on the waiver wire.

[Jason Moore]

So I don't view Gallman as a must add. He's going to be expensive. He's going to cost your priority. He is a team dependent ad for me because I can't imagine starting him over a lot of other running backs.

[Andy Holloway]

What about over a guy like David Montgomery? Would you start Wayne Goleman this upcoming week?

[Jason Moore]

That's, you know, I probably would not.

[Mike Wright]

I probably would against Washington. Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

He has Washington and the Bears have Minnesota, I believe.

[Jason Moore]

But there are teams, you know that have really their second running back. They have no options. You know, they were plugging the hole with Raheem Mostert and he's on by and then Tevin Coleman's coming back and you have to make a move. In that case, then you, you've got to go out and buy him. I just, I don't believe Wayne Goleman is going to be very good for fantasy. It's a bad team. He's not Saquon bad. Matchups upcoming two of the next three weeks. So I'm not excited.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean I'm. He's a must add.

[Mike Wright]

He's a must add for me.

[Andy Holloway]

He's not. It's just how much you spend on it. Well, I like would you spend 50 Fab Mike to add Gallman for potentially eight weeks?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'm not going 50% if, if I'm in a waiver system and I have the number one priority, I will burn it. I will burn it for Wayne Gallman if probably even if I don't need a running back on my team because I know someone else is trying to get Wayne Gallman. So I'm also playing defense. He becomes a tradable asset. He's a starting running back for. For the majority of the fantasy season for Fab. I mean in the 30s, okay. And we're in the 30%. Like there's a lot of teams like Jason said that they really need a running back who's going to get some volume. I'm side with you Andy, that I think they will bring somebody in. I don't know if people caught it out there but Orleans Dark one who had his time for this team but he tweeted out a gif of implying he was waiting patiently for them to call him.

[Andy Holloway]

But a lot of names have been patiently or desperately.

[Mike Wright]

Desperately. Desperately impatiently is a better word. But a lot of names have been floated. Jay Ajayi do they trade for Kenyon Drake? I mean a lot of things have been floated out there.

[Andy Holloway]

If you told me Goleman's the guy and they don't add anybody, I would move my fab. Like if I knew the future, for example, sure I would be willing to spend, you know, 40 bucks on fab to just have that guy that can be in my lineup every week, even if it's a, you know, 10, 11, 12 point play. But I just don't have the confidence that they're not going to share the load.

[Mike Wright]

Right. And I don't either. Like this isn't like we find out today Dalvin Cook is going to miss eight weeks. Like Alexander Madison is the guy I would spend 50% of my fab budget on. I would Go hard after it. I'm still going after Gallman.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just not, I'm not going to cripple my fab completely.

[Andy Holloway]

Sounds like good summary of what we're all saying is that we don't necessarily see the ceiling for Wayne Goleman. This is not a Tony Pollard league winning ceiling. This is a team that is probably going to have some growing pains with Daniel Jones against Minnesota, New England at a minimum. So God is.

[Mike Wright]

But I will say like are maybe they go from being a bad team with Eli Manning to just to being an okay team like Daniel Jones looked. He looked great. He didn't just look pretty good, he looked great against Tampa Bay.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The only thing I'll speak positively for Gallman is that this is a bad week for running backs on waivers in my opinion. There's not a lot of guys that I just love that I could scoop up and play. So it sort, you know, but obviously Gallman is one of those guys. He's now a starting running back with very little depth behind him. The next name I would actually pull out. I'm curious your guys take on Darrell Williams.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. He would be next man up for.

[Jason Moore]

Kansas City running back.

[Mike Wright]

Probably.

[Jason Moore]

I mean he needs to right now he's third string but Shady re aggravated the ankle and Damian Williams missed the game. We don't have enough information at this time in the week to know if either or both are going to be gone this Sunday. But he's a game changer. He's a guy that, you know, if he is the starter, you've got probably a top 10 back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And the truth is, I mean this is part of fantasy shooting your shot, your waivers run, whether you have all the news on these guys or not.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So Darrell Williams, it makes a lot of sense because you are talking about an offense going into Detroit that is moving the football. But it's a probably a one week rental of sorts with Darrell Williams. Gallman represents a longer term situation, even if maybe the upsides cap. So I would spend more on Gallman than Darrell Williams myself.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, I, I agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Raheem Mostert, you know Mostert and Jeff Wilson, I don't even want to talk about them because they have a bye week and then Tevin Coleman's supposed to come back and you know, you really can't bank on San Francisco having multiple goal line opportunities for Wilson. So I'm not really stashing him.

[Jason Moore]

So would you cut either guy?

[Andy Holloway]

I would cut both.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean I totally.

[Mike Wright]

I would like cut If I have mustard, I would cut him for Gallman or Darrell Williams. He's not. I would still prefer to hold on to Mostert through the bye week because it's not for sure that Coleman's coming back. It's just in the range of outcomes.

[Andy Holloway]

Cleveland and the Rams, the two matchups for the running backs in San Francisco, when they come back, other names. Ronald Jones, Frank Gore, Carlos Hyde. Are you interested in any of those guys?

[Jason Moore]

Frank Gore has a terrible matchup, Carlos Hyde came back to earth, and Ronald Jones is on the Buccaneers. And I just want to stay so far clear that situation. If I had to pick one of these three guys, it would probably be Ronald Jones. Gross.

[Andy Holloway]

The hardest thing with that situation is that you've had a competent running back for three consecutive weeks. You just haven't had the same one. So the Bruce Arian system and the running back being productive in it is proving true. But you don't get to start Tampa Bay running back X. You have to pick one. And that's proving to be frustrating for fantasy owners. At least Jones has the unproven future career side to him. But if he comes out next week, I mean, he had 15 touches last week. What if he has five?

[Jason Moore]

He looked really good week one and then he looked really good last week. I know, but yeah, exactly. If he comes out, you can't start him right. There's no way you can be confident enough to be like, well, he's the guy now. He's going to get a ton of work.

[Mike Wright]

I need him at least heating up.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you need the back to back.

[Mike Wright]

I need at least back to back. And even then, you still could just be thrown into a trap.

[Andy Holloway]

Rashad Penny is 62% owned.

[Mike Wright]

He should be picked up.

[Andy Holloway]

Pick Rashad Penny up. If the fumbling problems continue for Chris Carson, if he doesn't take advantage of the Arizona matchup, if Rashad Penny is healthy and active, he may take advantage of Arizona and that may change the perception of him for the rest of the season, both for fantasy owners and for Pete Carroll. I don't think Pete Carroll's gonna be like, well, Penny had a really good game, but it was against Arizona, so that's not valuable. I mean, he will take that game and run with it if he can stay healthy. He hurt himself in a walkthrough, guys. That's hard to do in a walkthrough.

[Jason Moore]

Now here. Here's the thing.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, how do you pull a hammy in a walkthrough?

[Mike Wright]

Okay, okay.

[Jason Moore]

I'm sure they're jogging.

[Mike Wright]

Have. Has anyone at this table that's a.

[Andy Holloway]

Jog through Jason completely different.

[Mike Wright]

Has anyone at this table ever hurt themselves jumping into a pool?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was me.

[Mike Wright]

Has anyone at this table ever heard themselves stepping off of a curb?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, me. I did that.

[Mike Wright]

And you're mocking the guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason got himself hurt sitting in a chair during the show.

[Mike Wright]

Ever blown out a knee sitting down?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Why do you have to make this a.

[Jason Moore]

Ever thrown out their back grabbing a T shirt off a bed? Guilty.

[Mike Wright]

Wait, hold on, hold on. You threw out your back?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Picking up your shirt.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was just not even the.

[Mike Wright]

Getting dressed motion, the picking up motion.

[Jason Moore]

I just reached to the left and was on the ground. Come on.

[Mike Wright]

You went down.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, went down and then couldn't move, couldn't get up. I like had to scream for help. This is like a decade ago. This is broken bowl games during this time.

[Mike Wright]

You were a young man.

[Jason Moore]

I was younger. I was fit. I didn't have this belly, but I had a bad back because that shirt.

[Andy Holloway]

You reached for his shirt and you went down.

[Jason Moore]

So Rashad Penny, we forgive you.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

I would rather have Rashad Penny than anyone on this list not named Gallman, obviously, if he's there. Because let's say Penny doesn't even play this week. But then the following week, Carson fumbles again. It's not just a Carson injury at this point. It's Carson injury or Carson fumble.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's hard to window because you probably won't be starting him the week that the fumble happens, but at least he'll be on your roster for the week after. That being said, Carson could have a huge game against Arizona and reestablish himself. It's going to be. It's trepidatious times for Chris Carson, owners tight end wise Will Disley.

[Mike Wright]

He is the pickup. It's pretty wide. Oh, goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like you never believed in a Mike.

[Mike Wright]

I.

[Andy Holloway]

Guilty as charged.

[Mike Wright]

I did not believe. I did not believe, but here I am.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Being country strong Big Montana Will Disley, it's.

[Andy Holloway]

He is.

[Mike Wright]

He has to be looked at as the truth now. Like he. He's getting target volume. He's not just a touchdown dependent tight end. He's one of those guys that can get you five for 50. That at the tight end position is very rare. Then you throw in touchdown upside. You throw in that he's playing Arizona. It's. It's going to be, it's going to be a good game for.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, look, if you, you're the George Kittle owner. Right. And he's on by and you need to pick someone up. You pick up Disney. You're fine for this week against Arizona. I mean that, you know. Look, he's tied with Mike Ditka for the third most tight end touchdowns through the first seven career games. This is my favorite stat of all time because it's so specific and outrageous. Through the first seven games he's tied for third.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a terrible stat but it's with.

[Jason Moore]

Ditka so it's great.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. It's three games.

[Jason Moore]

Seven games.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh the first seven career games just had the. Skipped most of the season part in between.

[Mike Wright]

Well it didn't have to be consecutively.

[Andy Holloway]

Chris Herndon will be back after the bye week. A reminder now. I don't think you have to move on him now. He's not that kind of a must own player with you know Darnold should maybe be back so I would.

[Mike Wright]

As long as he can stop smooching.

[Jason Moore]

I would still wait. Now Hernan won't be back the week immediately after the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

It's.

[Andy Holloway]

There's some time.

[Jason Moore]

So it's still two weeks away. So Chris Hernan will be a tight end that I think is a. As a pickup next week.

[Mike Wright]

I agree.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Jason Whitten still kind of.

[Mike Wright]

On field doing Whitten stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

3 for 54 on 4 targets this past week. Would you. You know if you're the. It's basically if you're the kiddle owner right now. Who are you streaming?

[Mike Wright]

I prefer Dizzley but if not then Jason wins. Look, Jason wins going to end up as the tight end 12. It's just going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

Right. He always does. I would go Disney. Then I would actually go Vernon Davis against the New York Giants and then I would go win.

[Andy Holloway]

You know the thing I didn't like about Vernon because I had picked him up after the Jordan Reed news and one of our Leafs because I have Kittle and you know you had a lot of. A lot of sprinkles sprinkled in last night.

[Mike Wright]

So Vernon sprinkle.

[Andy Holloway]

Vernon was.

[Mike Wright]

And how about the dude the play with the jump when Vernon Davis went to hurdle the defender and the defender said no. I watched game tape on this.

[Jason Moore]

I've seen this.

[Andy Holloway]

He's about to jump over. Hey, I was just impressed with the vertical again from Vernon.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. But whenever you go from playing the Bears to playing the Giants things get better.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Fair. Fair. All right. Although 332 passing years for Case Keenum and not A lot of them going Vernon's way. Possible drop candidates. What do you guys think? Antonio Brown, you letting him go?

[Mike Wright]

I would.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd let him go as well.

[Jason Moore]

I have to make this decision, and I am going to be dropping him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

In the keeper league.

[Jason Moore]

In the league of record. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I get it.

[Jason Moore]

I don't have room to.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no IR spot.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Well, and he. Even if. Yeah. He can't go in an ir.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. I mean, there's no. Sorry. I mean, there's no IR eligibility for him. And you're. You got to stay nimble. You got to be. Be able to move on the waiver wire. Jarvis Landry, Baker Mayfield.

[Mike Wright]

I think you can. Wow. I think you can drop them.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, I would. I would drop Baker. Unless you're in one of those leagues where there's no quarterbacks on the waiver wire otherwise. And by no, I mean, like, you know, there's not Matthew Stafford on the waiver wire. It's like, if Matthew Stafford's on the waiver wire, then I'm fine, you know, saying, yeah, I can. I can make roster transactions and move on for Baker.

[Andy Holloway]

Then what do you do with Stefan Diggs? Because Diggs is in the same Jarvis Landry draft capital. I mean, Diggs is in a worse position because he spent more on it.

[Mike Wright]

I take Diggs, I put him as part of a package trade, and hopefully people don't realize I'm sending them a poison pill.

[Andy Holloway]

I think that's smart. Because Diggs as a accompaniment. Like, if you could send Diggs and James Connor and go get yourself a more reliable running back option. Right, Like Diggs and Connor for Chubb.

[Mike Wright]

The Dick Chubb owner is going to laugh in your face for that offer.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe not all of them. Yeah, you'll find that not the Nick.

[Andy Holloway]

Chubb owner that's a Minnesota Vikings fan.

[Mike Wright]

That's a very specific fantasy football player.

[Andy Holloway]

Not the one that had Stefan Diggs win him a championship last year, who's.

[Jason Moore]

Also a Vikings fan.

[Mike Wright]

Not the one who's 27 years old, lives in. In Seattle, Washington.

[Jason Moore]

That guy would accept the guy with.

[Andy Holloway]

The digs jersey over the mantle. I know that guy. Jared Goff.

[Mike Wright]

We're talking about you, Brian.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Jared. Jared Goff, Rams offense kind of missed.

[Mike Wright]

He's been very mad. So next week he is. He's at home versus Tampa. I'm not dropping him.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm fine. I'll play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Canyon Drag. Tariq Cohen.

[Jason Moore]

I'm still holding Drake in hopes of the trade.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm cutting Cohen. It's over.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I don't blame you there.

[Jason Moore]

What. What are you hoping for?

[Mike Wright]

And you're real, Are you like, you wouldn't drop Kenyan Drake for like, Wayne Gallman or Darrell Williams this week.

[Andy Holloway]

I would put him in a castle and send him into outer space.

[Jason Moore]

I would not.

[Andy Holloway]

You would not drop Kenyan Drake.

[Mike Wright]

You just can't do it.

[Jason Moore]

I can't.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my.

[Mike Wright]

Wow, man.

[Andy Holloway]

I still think that's a bad hole.

[Jason Moore]

That's a bad hold. Footland.

[Andy Holloway]

Do not follow bad hole.

[Mike Wright]

Look, Kenyan Drake is out for the season. Jason's like, well, I just can't drop him.

[Jason Moore]

He's good for my roster. Look, fuck land. Listen to these two guys on Kenyan Drake. Not me, but I'm holding them.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Miles Sanders, what do you make of that? He was involved in the passing game.

[Mike Wright]

It was two really big receptions.

[Andy Holloway]

This team is kind of funky. My defensive streamer is against him this week. Right now they're finding their way on offense. I don't cut Miles Sanders yet.

[Mike Wright]

I do not cut him either.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I wouldn't cut him, but man, the two fumbles. The Philly writers are like, their. Their opinion is like, what do the Eagles even do with Miles Sanders? How can we keep playing him right now? That's not what you want to hear.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, speaking of Miles Sanders, David Montgomery, until the last drive last night, you hadn't seen anything special from either player on the year. None of those big time plays. Nothing huge out of the backfield. You know, you go into the season with a narrative about these rookies and their ability to contribute. You do need to see production on the field, not just opportunity. Montgomery showed a little last night. Hopefully that drive teaches Matt Nagy if he's teachable and not just smell.

[Mike Wright]

Well, we thought he learned from week two.

[Andy Holloway]

We were wrong.

[Mike Wright]

We were.

[Andy Holloway]

Fart sniffer.

[Jason Moore]

Full stream ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

Look, Mike, I'm fresh off a loss.

[Mike Wright]

No, like, it's. It's so enjoyable for me because it's like I'm looking in a mirror like I have been that before. And then Adam Gase ended up getting a really bad nickname because I was so frustrated and so angry.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't want to be called that. Show some play calling, Chops.

[Mike Wright]

Stop sniffing your farts.

[Andy Holloway]

Makes us respect you. All right, favorite.

[Jason Moore]

Tell me what to do, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Favorite quarterback streamers for week four. Week four, I'm taking Philip Rivers against Miami. Rivers had a 13 point week to hit a lot of waiver wires. Last week was all right. Almost led them back. But against Miami, this is a stone cold lock for at least a passable performance if not a great one. Yeah, I actually believe Mike Williams is more involved this week. There's some Travis Benjamin might miss this game. You're going to have Keenan Allen, Echler, Jackson, Williams and you get to play Miami.

[Jason Moore]

I love all three of our streamers this week, but Philip Rivers is a lock to have a great game in my opinion. I'm going Matthew Stafford at home against Kansas City Chiefs. He's going to have to play catch up. I think he'll be able to especially being at home. He's had some good games. He had a disappointing week last week so I think a lot of people are going to be like I don't want to play him. I still, I still have the confidence to play him. Marvin Jones, Kenny Golladay Hawkinson had three touchdowns, should have that were two drops and one that was toe tap on the out of bounds line. Matthew Stafford had an unbelievable game. If those things just turn around and against Kansas City he's going to have.

[Mike Wright]

To throw the ball and I'm going with Daniel Jones because Daniel Jones is to me like you got to pick him up, you got to see what you have. He's taking on Washington and he had a great performance this past week and the fact that he is willing to rush the ball and rush for touchdowns, that is a, that is a difference maker in fantasy football. We're going to be in a really tough spot if Daniel Jones comes out and balls against Washington because then you have them against Minnesota and it'll be this really, really tough decision. But at least we'll take this one week at a time. Daniel Jones against Washington Wait, so, so.

[Jason Moore]

I was looking at the dog I saw you had. Case Keenum.

[Mike Wright]

I think Case came in is a good streamer as well. But I'm pivoting because I think Daniel Jones is a, is a guy that needs to be picked up.

[Jason Moore]

Who would you rather start of those.

[Mike Wright]

Two guys and Daniel Jones?

[Andy Holloway]

By far. Case Keenum could get benched in this game if things go sour because I had putting Haskins in against the Giants is not the same as putting him in against the Bears, which is probably what prohibited it happening last night.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

So if, you know, I just don't want a guy that can get pulled to throw two picks and get pulled.

[Mike Wright]

I had Case Keenum in the dock before last night where it was like oh crap, Haskins seasons could be coming.

[Andy Holloway]

It really could. Here's a stupid question. Stupid, stupid. Especially Because Mike said let's keep it one week. And I'm like, no, no. Daniel Jones, Mitch Trubisky, who'd you rather have in a dynasty? Go, go Daniel.

[Mike Wright]

I'm biased. I can't answer the question.

[Jason Moore]

I'm in because Mitch Trubisky is never going to be a good enough quarterback to get the job done. Defense versus offense presented by Head and Shoulders and Walmart.

[Mike Wright]

One week reactions.

[Andy Holloway]

That's all I want to debate out there and give Jason an opportunity to disparage Trubisky despite the three touchdown game. We'll see what happens. All right. Defense versus offense presented by Head and Shoulders. Our favorite team defense. Special team streamers heading into week four. I said it earlier. I'm going to go with the packers reimagined. I can dig talented defense against Philadelphia. Hard to imagine starting the packers against Philly when the season began. Philly is banged up. They have been very uneven offensively. They've given up double digit fantasy points to their past two defenses against him which were Atlanta and Detroit. Packers are more than capable of doing that and so I like them. Even if Jeffrey's back, you don't have. You're not going to have desean Jackson this week as that threat over the top. I like the packers defense this week.

[Mike Wright]

I do. I like the packers defense as well. Another defense that I like. I think you can pick them up and play them. Taking the Pittsburgh Steelers against the Cincinnati Bengals. The Steelers are home favorites. They forced four turnovers from the handsome one Jimmy Garoppolo this past week and.

[Andy Holloway]

Andy Dalton's like hold my beer.

[Mike Wright]

And Andy Dalton will be playing against this team out. This is the, this, this is a primetime game.

[Jason Moore]

Prime time. Dalton, that's a minimum six picks.

[Mike Wright]

If you've played fantasy football or watched the Cincinnati Bengals for any amount of time, you know that Andy Dalton in a primetime matchup is a special type of quarterback. We'll see if that continues to be that bad. But I think the Steelers are a fine play.

[Jason Moore]

Andy Dalton was going to be my stream of the week. I went to put him in until I realized it was prime time.

[Andy Holloway]

And he always, he has performed in primetime. I remember him getting interviewed on a Sunday night game after. Remember that season they started like 11 and 1 or whatever it was. He's had a few good games in primetime and this is a chance to beat a Steelers team. But I like the pick. I mean Dalton gives you what turnover is giving you right now. Just an opportunity to score.

[Jason Moore]

You're looking for turnovers you're looking for sacks, you're looking for low points. And that's why I'm taking the Colts at home against the Oakland Raiders. The Colts got off, I love that really hot start last week against, against Atlanta, but Matt Ryan got it together. It was a really difficult matchup. But Derek Carr has been doing this thing where he takes the ball and he throws it to the other team. And I think the Colts are going to do that. I think they're going to get sucked.

[Andy Holloway]

Does he do it on purpose or on accident?

[Jason Moore]

I think it's on accident, but you can't tell when you watch the film. You're like, did he mean to do that? They're obviously they're down to two weapons on offense. I don't know if Josh Jacobs is going to get healthy enough to be right, but sure, Darren Waller, he can get his walrus.

[Andy Holloway]

I love the quote about needing to get Josh Jacobs more targets in the offense. And I was like more than zero. That'd be good.

[Mike Wright]

The guy who was awesome. Yeah, it was an awesome pass catcher in college.

[Andy Holloway]

I think three targets on the year, something like that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you should probably do that.

[Jason Moore]

Josh Jacobs to me is a buy low because I really think the last two weeks were a lot to do with his illness more and then, and then the subsequent blowout losses. I think if he's not dealing with that in these losses, he is the late round comeback. Get those little chunk plays. But I still love the Colts in this matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, head and shoulders. Offense for your hair. Defense for a flake, free scalp. Check it [e-mail] or at your local Walmart. Our streaming defensive picks of the week, the Packers D, the Steelers. The Colts. Obviously we're looking for guys for teams that you can pick up off the waiver wire tomorrow. Remember, you've got the couple of bye weeks this week. It's going to be a very interesting, you know, we're kind of entering the, you know, got some data finally, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, when, when you look at. We have these consistency charts that we put up on for our foot [e-mail] and they kind of give you a mental image of the data of how these players are performing over multiple weeks. A lot of our algorithms and our analytics are based on fantasy points against at each position. So after three weeks you start to understand things like, I don't know, Arizona Cardinals. You're going to want to start your tight ends against Arizona Cardinals and similar things like that. So as we get into our starts of the week on Thursday. These matchups for week four, it's nice to have a few weeks worth of data to provide more insight, predictability and how these. How these teams are going to play. And on Thursday we have what, the packers and the Eagles.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So that'll be a pretty interesting Thursday night game. Slightly more enticing than one we had last week.

[Mike Wright]

Go buy devonte Adams if you can.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I agree with that.

[Jason Moore]

I went. I genuinely went to trade for him.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no, it's not going to happen.

[Jason Moore]

And then I saw he was on your team and I was like, crap.

[Mike Wright]

I still believe.

[Andy Holloway]

Why? Yeah, I don't think it's a belief. Not belief. Because he's a player that, you know he's not going to give you nothing.

[Mike Wright]

He's a great player.

[Andy Holloway]

Waiting for that top five performance that we haven't had yet.

[Mike Wright]

And he's had real tough matchups. The. I thought he could succeed a little bit more, but Chris Harris was. Was great against him. And then you had his own. You had his quarterback, Aaron Rodgers, lamenting the fact that Devonte Adams only had four targets this past week. I think the squeaky wheel is going to get the grease on Thursday night.

[Andy Holloway]

Was he squeaking, though?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Was the squeaky wheels going to give the grease? Because Aaron Rodgers was the squeaky wheel in that situation?

[Mike Wright]

Well, I just, I think that, that.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think the wheel's squeaky at all. And Rodgers just wants to give extra grease. That's what I think.

[Mike Wright]

I think Devonte Adams went up to Aaron Rodgers at the end of the game and said, bro, four targets. And then Aaron Rodgers said, you know what, you're right.

[Andy Holloway]

Maybe they won.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. That's the hardship.

[Andy Holloway]

If you're squeaking after a win. You should get half the amount of targets as a punishment. You should get half the grease.

[Jason Moore]

I think this was. Aaron Rodgers was up on the wagon and then he's like, I think that wheel squeaky. I'm going to give it some grease.

[Andy Holloway]

Do they grease wagon wheels?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you had to.

[Mike Wright]

Did you play Oregon Trail?

[Jason Moore]

Do you grease your, like, regular car wheel?

[Mike Wright]

Anything where there's friction, you have to put grease.

[Andy Holloway]

So when you're factoring this big journey, you have to bring a bunch of grease with you.

[Jason Moore]

Have to?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Jason Moore]

Unless you want squeaky wheels.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah. It's the worst.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it really the squeak or is it. Is it. Can wood squeak?

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Really?

[Andy Holloway]

Isn't it more of a rustle?

[Mike Wright]

A rustle Wilson.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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