Week 4 Waivers & Streamers + Drops & Dart O'Clock! - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/23

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast — Week 4 Waivers & Streamers + Drops & Dart O'Clock!

Release Date: September 23, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers the trio’s signature analysis and humor ahead of Week 4, focusing on critical waiver wire pickups, streamers, injury impacts, and players to drop or stash. With a special look at the fallout from Monday Night Football, the guys break down the ever-shifting landscape and key opportunities for fantasy managers to set themselves up for success as we approach the “second chunk” of the NFL season. Expect bold opinions, deep waiver targets, and actionable, entertaining insight.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Monday Night Football Recap & Player Reactions

(02:39–07:05)

• Mark Andrews’ Big Night:
  • Jason was victorious due to Mark Andrews’ 6/91/2 TD performance, paired with a huge game from David Montgomery (151 yards, 2 TDs).
  • Andy’s critique: “What’s crazy is... he still wasn’t good. Like, Mark Andrews was not good.” [03:19]
  • Jason counters: “He was constantly finding space in the zone... part of the game plan.” [04:26]
• Detroit Lions’ Dominance:
  • “Seven sacks of Lamar completely dictated the game...” [05:27]
  • The group credits the Lions’ physicality and Baltimore’s inability to adapt, specifically limiting Lamar Jackson’s rushing.

2. Around the NFL — News & Notable Updates

(07:20–19:00)

• Injuries & Returnees:

  • Tyrone Tracy out 2–4 weeks, which boosts Cam Scataboo’s role (“team leader in everything for the Giants” — [11:18]).
  • Nick Bosa’s season-ending ACL tear shakes up the undefeated 49ers.
  • CD Lamb (ankle) and Mike Evans (hamstring) both expected to miss multiple weeks. Projections? Lamb out next 2–3 games, Evans possibly up to 3 weeks. [14:23]

• Quarterback Changes

  • Breaking News — “Quarterback James for the New York Giants. Jackson Dart will be starting on Sunday versus the Chargers.” [19:38]
  • Consensus: This is good news for Malik Nabers’ longer-term consistency, even if it’s bumpy at first.

• Atlanta & Arizona Passing Game Woes:

  • Falcons fired their WR coach; Cards stay the course.
  • “Drake London is a trade away for me... bailing out on Drake London. I’m not saying he’ll be nothing, but you didn’t draft him to be an [WR2].” – Jason [17:33]
  • Concern about Michael Penix’s poor QB play derailing Falcons’ pass-catchers.

3. Waiver Wire Priorities & FAAB Strategy

(23:19–33:01)

Running Back Targets

• Trey Benson (AZ) – The must-add if available ([24:01]):

  • “Dropping at least… probably 60% [of FAAB].” – Andy [24:37]
  • “I’d be at 65–80% on Trey Benson.” – Jason [25:22]

• Next-Tier RB Options:

  • Bashaw Tootin, Ollie Gordon, Amari DiMarcado (especially in PPR), Chris Rodriguez Jr.
  • Woody Marks (HOU): “He’s that type of a player. He has juice and the guy in front of him does not.” – Mike [29:21]

• RB Drops & Stashes:

  • “Isaiah Pacheco… he’s a landmine. But I don’t think people are going to start him right now. He is a stash.” – Andy [33:04]
  • Let go of Dylan Sampson. [33:15]

Wide Receiver Targets

• Trey Tucker (LV): “Big, huge must add if he’s there. He’s out there all the time... He’s averaging [almost] 37 routes a game.” – Jason [34:08, 35:12]

• Other WRs to Consider:

  • Tory Horton (SEA): “Very talented… can avoid tacklers, real playmaker. He’s a better ‘breakout’ candidate than Tucker.” – Andy [36:07–36:31]
  • Troy Franklin (DEN): “He’s the one getting the snaps... He’s the one I think I’m chasing the most.” – Mike [37:25]
  • Sterling Shepard (TB): “Perfect spot start... basically available in every league.” – Jason [38:34]
  • Tyquan Thornton (NE): Legitimate deep league add, “He might be the best pickup… great matchup against Baltimore.” – Andy [39:48]

• Stashes: Luther Burden (slow start but promising), Matthew Golden (“must start to me this year” if available — Jason [41:22]), Parker Washington.

• WR Drops: Josh Downs (“three Downs weeks”), Calvin Ridley (“air yards, but hard drop”), Travis Hunter (bench, but ‘close to a drop’), per [44:45].

Drop and Hold Candidates – Consensus

• Drop: Dylan Sampson, possibly Calvin Ridley (if desperate), Tyrone Tracy (due to injury - see [32:57])
• Stash/Hold: Woody Marks, Luther Burden, Tyquan Thornton
• Let Go: Dylan Sampson, “See you later” – Mike [33:15]

4. Tight End Streamers & Stashes

(46:47–50:41)

• Hunter Henry:
  • “I’d rather roll out Hunter Henry right now… but I’m not spending up.” – Andy [47:07]
  • Skepticism about sustainability, but immediate fill-in if need be.
• Isaiah Likely: Could see immediate bump in Ravens’ pass game.
• Kate Otten (TB): “ A fine pickup… playing 90% of the snaps.” – Andy [49:04]
• Arouné Gadsden (LAC): Deep-league option, “If Will Dissly misses more time.” – Jason [50:10]

5. Defensive Streamers for Week 4

(51:25–52:19)

• Top recommendations:
  • Lions (vs. CLE, then @CIN – “double up, maybe triple!”) [51:46]
  • Chargers (@NYG, vs. Dart in his 1st career start)
  • Texans (vs. TEN — “The defense is really, really good. It’s going to be a struggle bus for Cam Ward this week.” – Andy [52:36])
  • Patriots (@CAR), Commanders (@ATL)

6. Quarterback Streaming Options

(53:22–56:30)

• Sam Darnold @ARI: “They are being very aggressive going down the field... Darnold has been really strong for fantasy.” – Mike [54:15]
• Geno Smith (vs. CHI): “Was QB4 last week, two of three games at 10+ yards per attempt... Great spot.” – Andy [55:08]
• Justin Fields (if cleared): @MIA, “a really good matchup... definitely an option.” – Jason [55:08]
• Dak Prescott: “You can’t play Dak right now. His schedule is brutal and he doesn't have CD Lamb or a strong OL... If you don't have room for two QBs, you have to cut Dak." – Andy [56:00]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Hypercriticism on Fantasy Stars:
  “You scored the most points in our league of record and you’re whining... Grow up.” – Jason [07:41]; “Never.” – Andy [07:48]

• On Russell Wilson:
  “Have we seen someone play their way out of the Hall of Fame?” – Mike [09:23]
  “Yes. Russell Wilson.” – Andy [09:28]

• On Detroit’s MNF Performance:
  “The bigger bully showed up in Baltimore and took their lunch money.” – Jason [05:27]

• Cam Scataboo’s Breakout:
  “The team leader in carries for the Giants this last week, and the team leader in rushing yards, and the team leader in rushing touchdowns, and the team leader in targets, and the team leader in receptions, and the team leader in receiving yards — Cam Scataboo this last week.” – Andy [11:18]

• On Falcons’ WRs:
  “I’d be throwing up... Good and phlegm.” – Mike [17:56] (on watching/starting Drake London)

• On Waiver Adds:
  “I’d be at 65–80% [FAAB] on Trey Benson.” – Jason [25:22]
  “Trey Tucker is the big, huge must add if he’s there.” – Jason [34:09]

• Breaking News Alert:
  “[Jackson Dart] will be starting on Sunday vs. the Chargers. New York Giants. Diarrhea is flushed.” – Mike [19:38; 19:47]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• MNF Reactions & Player Analysis: 02:39–07:05
• Injury/News Rundown: 07:20–19:00
• Breaking News (Jackson Dart starting): 19:30–21:01
• Waiver Wire (RBs) Start: 23:19
• Waiver Wire (WRs): 33:27–43:12
• Tight Ends: 46:47–51:25
• Defensive Streamers: 51:25–52:29
• QB Streamers: 53:22–56:30

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Rapid-Fire Recommendations

Waiver Targets:

• Trey Benson (RB - ARI)
• Trey Tucker (WR - LV)
• Tory Horton (WR - SEA)
• Troy Franklin (WR - DEN)
• Tyquan Thornton (WR - NE)
• Hunter Henry (TE - NE), Kate Otten (TE - TB)

Stash:

• Woody Marks (RB), Ollie Gordon (RB), Luther Burton (WR), Arouné Gadsden (TE - LAC)

Premium Drop Candidates:

• Dylan Sampson (RB), (tentatively) Calvin Ridley (WR), Travis Hunter (WR) — bench before dropping

QB Streaming:

• Sam Darnold, Geno Smith, possibly Justin Fields

DST Streaming:

• Lions, Chargers, Texans, Patriots, Commanders

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Summary

This episode arms fantasy managers with actionable moves and deep-dives on waiver wire priorities as we close in on a crucial stretch of the fantasy season. From bold RB/WR adds, and clever stash-and-stream plays, to content-rich, laugh-out-loud banter, the Fantasy Footballers guide you through another pivotal week with the expert entertainment and insight that sets them apart. Don’t miss out on this comprehensive roadmap for Week 4 dominance.

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Oh, welcome in Tuesday, September 23rd. Jason Moore, Mike Wright, Andy Holloway, the Fantasy Footballers back with you. Waiver day gonna get you ready. Week four is just a couple days away already. That's how the NFL works.

[Mike Wright]

Chunk one is almost complete chunk of the season. Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you are. These quarters are these like four weeks chunks.

[Mike Wright]

It's about. I mean that's kind of how I, I still think about it. I know that we're no longer just 16 weeks of fantasy football, but.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean Trey Tucker helped me turn around the first chunk of the season for my dynasty.

[Mike Wright]

On your way.

[Jason Moore]

We've got waiver episode today. We've got a Monday Night Football game for Jason to celebrate.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh baby.

[Jason Moore]

He needed Mark Andrews and David Montgomery to do more than Jameer Gibbs. And they did a lot more.

[Andy Holloway]

And Gibbs did a lot.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Gibbs was a 20 point fantasy player and didn't really compare to the other two. I mean, Montgomery gained 151 yards on 12 carries, had two touchdowns. And then Mark Andrews after. Like somebody needs to tell Mark Andrews when the season really starts because he's not really known what week that is. The last two years, six for 91 and two tuddies for Mike Andrews after one point and one point.

[Andy Holloway]

What's crazy is, and I hope this doesn't come across the wrong way, but he still wasn't good. Like, Mark Andrews was not good.

[Jason Moore]

I don't agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

He had a great fantasy game.

[Jason Moore]

I thought he was great.

[Andy Holloway]

He was great based off of. So I'm watching him, of course, every route, every moment, because my everything relies on. He got the touchdown grab. That was great. He did the classic. I mean, we, that was, you know, when we. When we brought it up on last Wednesday of like, Mark Andrews is someone you can pick up and play because he's always involved around the goal line. And he is that. He's. He's still great there. He'll box a guy out and get it. Pretty much everything else was. It felt like I remember about halfway through the game and I remember thinking, my goodness, on waiver day, they need Isaiah likely they need a field stretcher at this position the way that Mark Andrews used to be. And he wasn't really that now. Yes, he had a big broken garbage time, you know, huge touchdown at the end of the game. But that was like, you know, that was. That was nice.

[Jason Moore]

Good.

[Andy Holloway]

Stinky, stinky, nasty time.

[Jason Moore]

I think you might have been watching with a hypercritical eye to your matchup because he was constantly finding space in the zone. He caught six. I mean, it wasn't just a couple he caught. He was 6 for 91. And the long touchdown you're talking about was 27 yards. So it's like he was free wide open all the time. And I obviously a part of the game plan. Zay Flowers got disappeared from the offense. They barely had the football. I mean, this was.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow, the Lions are so good.

[Jason Moore]

This was such a limited amount of offensive snaps for the Ravens. So to me, Mark Andrews was hugely impressive. Derek Henry got into the end zone, fumbled for the third time.

[Mike Wright]

Also, I mean, shout out to the Lions on it. A four down full on stop of the Baltimore Ravens. Three carries for Derek Henry did not score. And then they play action and they. They strip sack Lamar Jackson.

[Jason Moore]

I think Baltimore has always been considered a bully in the NFL. And the bigger bully showed up in Baltimore.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And took their lunch money. I mean, seven sacks of Lamar completely dictated the game in every respect.

[Andy Holloway]

They did not let him run. They had a spy. Every play. They just said, you know, you're not beating us the way that you beat everybody else.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, and they were disciplined in their tackling. And then they. The bully part was this offensive line that was, oh, are they going to be good this year without their key? They manhandled Baltimore. I mean, they ran for 224 yards and their quarterback didn't do any of that.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah, 34 carries. They just kept. They just kept handing the ball off. And that's what you have to do against Baltimore, is you've got to, you know, possess the ball more than the Ravens.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. It was so impressive.

[Mike Wright]

Five tuddies for the Lions. Jared Goff, one touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Six for 91 and. And two touchdowns. And Jason's here. Criticized. Martin.

[Mike Wright]

Weird, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I was.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you scored 54 points between these two guys. You're not satisfiable.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'm not.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know if that's a word.

[Andy Holloway]

Never be satisfied.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, you scored the most points in our league of record and you're whining.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, with a goose from seed.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, grow up.

[Andy Holloway]

Never.

[Mike Wright]

Never.

[Jason Moore]

Tyrone Tracy. Tyrone Tracy is going to be out for two to four weeks. The scat man is back and breaking out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he. He did work this last week against a very, very difficult chief. Yeah, Cam.

[Jason Moore]

Scatter. Boo. Impressive. It's also more impressive when you're doing it with kind of like a bad offensive situation. So he's kind of just forcing their hand. And then now Tyrone Tracy being out, it's just inevitable you're going to get some dumb, what I call a dumb singletary snap. Yeah, but it won't be better for the Giants.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's weird. And it's probably not in our news because it's still just. It's Still a low whisper. You got to put your ear to the ground. But there. We don't know for sure that it's Russ this weekend.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, it could be. I mean, Jackson dart is. It's happening at some point.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, we. Could it be lateral for the Giants, maybe?

[Jason Moore]

I choose lateral with optimism.

[Mike Wright]

I choose to believe that it will be. It will end up better in the long run.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Russ is. Russ is like. I mean, winning.

[Mike Wright]

He threw it away on fourth down.

[Jason Moore]

Winning.

[Andy Holloway]

He threw it away on first, second, third and fourth down on a goal to go.

[Mike Wright]

You have nothing to lose on fourth down. Oh, no. I threw an interception in the end.

[Andy Holloway]

Unlimited diarrhea, sir. That was the. That was the wrong one.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, he is limited.

[Andy Holloway]

Diarrhea unlimited.

[Mike Wright]

Have we seen someone play their way out of the hall of Fame?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Russell Wilson. I said this, like, two years ago.

[Mike Wright]

I'm saying, like, genuinely, like, echoing it of. Have we ever seen anything like this?

[Jason Moore]

You guys know I started getting into sports cards with my son.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And so we've been. We've been. You know, you build your collection of cards, and a lot of it is. It's like the stock market for players. Right? I mean.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, for sure.

[Jason Moore]

If a player has a good week, all of a sudden, Tucker Kraft's rookie starts to look really good.

[Andy Holloway]

CJ Stroud rookie card was looking pretty spicy years ago.

[Jason Moore]

100%. There's a lot of CJ Stroud on the market. People trying to get out. I was at a card show this weekend, and, like, Caleb, before he had the big game, I tried to sell a Caleb card, and they're like, I ain't buying no Caleb. Oh, they were, like, progress for that guy. Like, the market ain't moving. All this to say, like, Russell Wilson was one of those players where it's like, you come out, you know, you win a Super bowl, you go to.

[Mike Wright]

Another super bowl, you put those cards in the vault.

[Jason Moore]

Those are like. And now it's like, man, retire.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Retire right away.

[Jason Moore]

Like, I will. I don't want them like. Like Russ.

[Mike Wright]

So weird.

[Jason Moore]

It's a sell, and they need to have some optimism. In New York, you're owing three anyways.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Scatter Boo.

[Jason Moore]

As long as you can protect Jackson Dart and let him develop.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Jackson Dart and Scatter Boo together.

[Andy Holloway]

That's a fun.

[Jason Moore]

I'll watch that game.

[Andy Holloway]

Scatter Boo is fun.

[Jason Moore]

League neighbors.

[Andy Holloway]

He is a cool. It's a very nice core. If those three hit, and it looks like right now two thirds, it's Too early to know for sure that Scatter Boo's going to do.

[Jason Moore]

Tiba Doe.

[Mike Wright]

Tiba, don't.

[Andy Holloway]

Tiba, don't. But Scatterboo is a guy who, you know, we all loved coming, coming into this year, and I think it's already been established he can do it in the NFL.

[Jason Moore]

Like, you didn't trade him recently, did you?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I sure did. I traded him to you.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, crap.

[Andy Holloway]

You didn't trade him recently, did you?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, crap.

[Andy Holloway]

We both just recently got out of camp. Scatter Boo.

[Jason Moore]

We're trying to capitalize.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm talking about the. The team leader in carries for the Giants this last week and the team leader in rushing yards and the team leader in rushing touchdowns and the team leader in targets and the team leader in receptions and the team leader in receiving yards. Cam, Scatter Boo this last week and.

[Mike Wright]

Still they were like, singletary, get out there.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you got to get some snaps. Ridiculous. But Tyrone Tracy, missing two to four weeks, that was a long Scatter Boo distraction there. Brock Purdy practicing.

[Mike Wright]

He better.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he was. That's dumb. That's stupid. This isn't news. He practiced all last week. Oh, I expect him to practice.

[Jason Moore]

It was like third string peripheral snaps. It wasn't like good snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

But to say I expect him to practice. It was like, yeah, he practiced.

[Mike Wright]

What if he said he, like, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Expect him to play.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's important to report it because Mac Jones is hurt and we need to know if one of those.

[Mike Wright]

Thursday.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, speaking of.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, I was thinking of the Cardinals and Seahawks.

[Andy Holloway]

The. Speaking of Mac Jones, you had mentioned that comment about Mac Jones saying like, oh, he. Yeah, he had a good throw. I didn't understand what you meant when.

[Jason Moore]

You talked about that. He didn't give any credit to the defender and he's just like, yeah, the guy didn't. It's not like he did anything good.

[Andy Holloway]

I couldn't believe the quote when I watched it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, did you watch it?

[Andy Holloway]

I thought he was like. When you said it. I thought he was being tongue in cheek. Like, oh, that was all me. He was legitimately saying, what did he do? What? He caught a perfect pass. Like he did. Okay, I'm happy for him. He caught it. What you. Mac Jones, this is. First of all, the dude made an awesome catch. You put it on his neck, which is a catchable ball. That's great. But that was a cool catch. Give him no credit. And then that guy's got something wrong.

[Jason Moore]

And then he's like, but I did rip it.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, Man. Oh, cool.

[Jason Moore]

You ripped it. Go back to the backup. All right, Nick Bosa, the next player siphoned by Christian McCaffrey.

[Andy Holloway]

Really?

[Jason Moore]

Adam Schefter reporting. Nick Bosa, ACL tear out for the season. Second time he's torn his ACL.

[Andy Holloway]

What do you do if you're the Niners? You're undefeated, right. You're three and oh, you have the easiest schedule in the entire league. You should be set up to make a run, but your team is gone. Like, you have no players.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

No fighting till you get some back.

[Mike Wright]

And DeMarcus Robinson is back.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. DeMarcus Robinson, wide receiver. Who will matter?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he will. He has to.

[Jason Moore]

He absolutely will because they John Jennings has been hurt and Robinson is a good receiver and was looking good in the preseason. He returns from his suspension this week, as does Jordan Addison. And we have Jaden Daniel. Still day to day. We'll wait to hear from the Commanders. I hope he's playing same ZD Lam could miss three to four weeks with a high ankle sprain. The reports were all over the place. It was like, we're going to take 10 to 14 days to figure out whether it's going to take three to four weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was the first report was.

[Jason Moore]

Like, we're going to take some time.

[Andy Holloway]

I dug in as much as I could to just see what the latest information is because then Jerry Jones was coming out saying he could go on ir.

[Mike Wright]

Jerry Jones also said he I think he's probably going to play this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, CD Lamb said, I think I could play this week. Whatever.

[Mike Wright]

It's nonsense.

[Andy Holloway]

The most recent, I believe, accurate estimation is that he's going to miss the next two weeks and then they will take it week by week from there. They didn't put him on ir. Usually an injury like this misses three weeks. So that's my expectation. Like the way that I'm playing CD Lamb right now and I've got him in too many places, unfortunately. He's going to miss three weeks and then he should come back against the Washington Commanders in Week seven. That's just my assumption and we'll adapt as new information comes to light.

[Jason Moore]

Mike Evans is going to miss multiple weeks because of a hamstring injury suffered in the jets game. They're reporting it's not as bad as the one that caused him to miss three weeks last time, but we'll see.

[Mike Wright]

But he's going to miss three weeks.

[Jason Moore]

So Tavian Sanders, high ankle sprain, missing multiple weeks. Zach Charbonnet, full participant in the first estimated Practice report. So he should be back.

[Mike Wright]

Enough of the bad news, man.

[Jason Moore]

I also want to let you know that Titans head coach Brian Callahan has relinquished his play calling job to their quarterback coach.

[Mike Wright]

So, so what's he going to be doing?

[Jason Moore]

Head coaching, man. Timeouts.

[Andy Holloway]

Also.

[Jason Moore]

The Falcons challenges.

[Andy Holloway]

The Falcons.

[Jason Moore]

All the good stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they fired their wide receiver coach.

[Jason Moore]

Who was definitely the problem.

[Andy Holloway]

He was definitely the problem. Well, no, no, no. There was another problem. OC was up in the booth. We got to, we got to bring.

[Mike Wright]

Him down to the field.

[Jason Moore]

Then he can see the flat.

[Andy Holloway]

Seeing what's going on well enough. But what's better? Genuine question. Okay. Because you have two exact opposite approaches here. You have the Arizona Cardinals and the Falcons. Both teams not able to pass the ball right now. And they look really inept in the passing game. One team fired the coach, moves the offensive coordinator down trying to make some moves. The other is literally coming out. The Cardinals. John Gannon is coming out and saying Drew Petzon called the best game of the season. He has no problem with anything going on. He thinks it's, it's, it's basically ideal. Just everything's perfect. Which, which is the better approach to build up like confidence in your coaching staff.

[Jason Moore]

At least you can make the comments like Marvin Harrison cost the Cardinals a ton of passing yardage.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Literally possibly 150 yards in total receiving yards. So you know, those two plays happen. @ least I can make the, like Arizona probably wins the game and they score a bunch of points and they have a bunch of yards. So I was way. I trust me, I hate the Cardinals. I hate them. I stared into the camera and told you yesterday, I hate them. But it wasn't as bad as what I saw in Atlanta. I mean, Atlanta's offensive passing game the last two weeks. Like you're going to get to the point where Kirk Cousins is your starter legitimately if you want to salvage your season. If Michael Panicks doesn't turn it around, I think that's possible. It Was that bad? 30 to nothing.

[Mike Wright]

That's pretty bad.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, right now, look, Drake London is a trade away for me. He was last week. He is this week. I would not if I could go trade Drake London for whatever. Amari and Hampton or somebody in that category. Heck yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You're bailing out.

[Jason Moore]

I'm bailing out on Drake London. I'm not that he's going to be nothing. But you didn't draft him to be. And our wide receiver too.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

That's what he is. I don't see that Turning around personally. But there's a lot of silence around me. So I'm getting the impression that maybe you do.

[Mike Wright]

I'm choking.

[Jason Moore]

I don't see him as you're currently choking.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Probably from watching some of that film. I would be throwing up.

[Mike Wright]

Good and phlegm.

[Andy Holloway]

The problems we have seen are legitimate and real. I mean, obviously, hopefully they're making changes, but Pinnix has looked really, really bad. And so if he is not the guy like, you know, I had big hopes for Drake London and for the Falcons passing game. And that all hinges on. Does Pinnocks have it? Because we haven't seen enough film.

[Mike Wright]

You know, three weeks, six games, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And three weeks at the end of last year against three of the worst defenses out there. You know, he's looked really bad so far.

[Jason Moore]

They won a game. And this is a little bit of the Arizona story too. Atlanta won a game 22 to 6. In that game, Michael Pinnix was the 32nd ranked fantasy quarterback in a game they won 22 to 6. The Falcons winning ball games does not need to involve 300 yards passing. It involves Bijan. And so that's the place where like, I don't want Kyle Pitts right now. We have a waiver show today.

[Mike Wright]

Is Kyle Pitts on it for you?

[Jason Moore]

Is he what?

[Mike Wright]

You were, you were like, I don't want Kyle Pitts. We have a waiver show. So I was like, oh, it's. Kyle Pitts will pick up for you. No, it's just a dumb joke, man.

[Jason Moore]

I don't. I still don't get it.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm more on any side here.

[Jason Moore]

I still don't know what the joke is, but yeah, look, I would be trying to move on from Kyle Pitts because I don't think the.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Breaking news now.

[Mike Wright]

Hold on. Hit the lights. This one. No, we need. I need lights for this.

[Andy Holloway]

Woo.

[Mike Wright]

Baby.

[Jason Moore]

Go ahead, Mike. You gotta break the noose.

[Mike Wright]

Quarterback James for the New York Giants. Jackson Dart will be starting on Sunday versus the Chargers. New York Giants.

[Jason Moore]

Diarrhea is flushed.

[Mike Wright]

Giants fans. I'm so happy for you. Oh, my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

It's legitimately fun.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I'm so happy for you.

[Andy Holloway]

It's fun.

[Jason Moore]

Now neighbors. Carter. Oh, and three.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you think this is actually good for Malik, neighbors?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

I believe so. Longer term, it may not. It might take a couple of weeks, honestly. But it was. You were. You were headed to a dark, dark place.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, neighbors. Russ throws it deep, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Two of neighbors. Three games have been bad.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

So is it really better for him? It's better if you start to create a future of consistency, whether that's intermittent explosions. I would think it's better to have a path towards consistency.

[Mike Wright]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

They also, they also got Andrew Thomas back who dominated this past week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think it was, you know.

[Jason Moore]

Was it like Jackson Dark can run the football.

[Mike Wright]

I thought I saw a stat of both tackles. Did not allow a QB pressure, which makes Russell Wilson's. Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

Self decapitation so terrible.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. I mean, well, I mean, I'm excited. Jackson Dart looked like a dog in preseason, but if you're going to wear your eye black like that, you better, you better be a dog right away.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we'll find out. And we're one step closer to Jameis Winston.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, oh, now there, there we get excited. It's a good question, though.

[Jason Moore]

Like there's no chance for James to start, though, unless there was an injury. So I don't really root for that. But no, it'll be Jackson Dart.

[Andy Holloway]

And the question is, if Dart were to go down to injury, do they go back to Russ or.

[Jason Moore]

Probably stupidly, yes. Unless they, unless Russ, which I recommend, requests his release. If Russ wants to go and request a release, that would be the best for everybody.

[Mike Wright]

What team do you want to go to, Russ? None. None. Just let me, let me know.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't say what team wants you.

[Jason Moore]

All right, well, we got that news into the news and notes Sponsored by Progressive Insurance quote today at progressive.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers not available in all situations, states or situations coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions. We are going to take a break and then it's waiver wire time and we'll see if Jackson Dart makes it.

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[Jason Moore]

Alrighty. By the way, by the way, the bi weeks are coming. Week five. We're not quite there yet, but we're a week away. Bears, Falcons, Packers, Steelers for week five.

[Mike Wright]

Say it's coming because next week you'll say they're here.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This would be the only time in which they are coming.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

No, I accept. So make your plans. That's something to factor in.

[Mike Wright]

They weren't like, hey, the British are here. It's like, no, the British are coming because they're not here yet.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And so they.

[Mike Wright]

But you got to be scared.

[Jason Moore]

The bi weeks are offshore.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

A little way.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

And they're going to make it to.

[Mike Wright]

Shore and we got to put the lanterns up.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

This is just some Revolutionary war jokes.

[Jason Moore]

Perfect parallel. Let's start with the running back position. The big huge must add if he's there, but he's not there in every league. Trey Benson, of course, James Conner out for the season with the ankle injury surgery required. If we didn't report that, it's been confirmed in Trey Benson will be taking over in Arizona. Trey Benson, a very capable young running back who is already looking pretty good to start the year. I mean, in the first week of the season, he was 8.6 a carry, had a 52 yard run, 4.7 the next week, last week, 10 opportunities on the ground, 4.2 a carry.

[Andy Holloway]

Like Trey Benson reminds me of. Not, not in necessarily play style exactly like of Kenneth Walker, but he's the type where he'll look like he has some bad vision and get stuffed a lot. But if you give him enough opportunities, he can break a long play. He has that explosive athleticism. So he hasn't had a lot of volume because he's been behind James Conner going forward. If he is getting a lot of volume every game, it'll be common and frequent for him to have big fantasy outputs and it'll be a rest of the season lead role. So he's not available in any league I play in. But if he was, you're dropping at least, you know, probably 60%.

[Mike Wright]

And that's the question is how aggressive.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'd be at 65 to 80 on Trey Benson. If you running backs have been like for some reason. I don't know if it's just distribution in the leagues that I'm in. I don't know if it's common from the leagues that you guys are in. They're very hard to find right now because, you know, you've had letdowns at the top. You've had the Chase Browns of the world that people don't feel comfortable start comfortable starting running backs are hard to come by. They are a premium to me on the fab world.

[Mike Wright]

Would you aggressively trade for Trey Benson?

[Jason Moore]

I don't know if someone will let him go. I mean I would rather have Benson than Bill. I mean I made that offer this morning. It'll get turned down but the straight up Crosky vs Benson I'd rather have Benson for sure. So other names to mention near the 60% range. Bashaw Tootin still out there, still scored again. He's a good player.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he looks good and he's, he's.

[Jason Moore]

Involved and it seems like. I mean not that etn ETN ended up putting a good game together but ETN is also the kind of guy that a coach is willing to give up on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah he is.

[Jason Moore]

He's not their guy.

[Andy Holloway]

This is who I traded for.

[Jason Moore]

If he struggled they would, they would turn a little bit and he only.

[Andy Holloway]

Ran for three and a half so far. If you look at his yards per carry Week 1 8.9 Week 2 5.1 Week 3 3.5 I fully expect like a 2 yard per carry game coming.

[Jason Moore]

Amari D. Markado will be the secondary and pass catching option for Arizona. Keep that in mind. If you are in a deeper league and you need a spot start, I mean there's a lot of players I'd probably start DiMarcado over with how Arizona has a propensity to not use wide receivers. So you know I'd play him over Braylon Allen, I'd play him over game well I'd play him over Miles Sanders. Like if you were in that category Kareem Hunt, that would be close. But if you're full ppr, I'm telling you like D. Markado's had games. Sure he's had games in the past. So other running backs that you guys are looking at.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Ollie Gordon is a very interesting name because he's got the combination of. I think he's good which is rare for most of these names. Like you know, you could bring up Chris Rodriguez Jr. Who got the start ahead of Bill, had involvement, had, you know, double digit carries. I don't think he's that good. I actually think Ollie Gordon is a good player. He's a rookie running back for the Miami Dolphins and he was involved early in the game last week. He ended up only playing 25% of the snaps but early in the game. It seemed like he was a real big part of the game plan. The first drive he had carries. He had a couple of good carries. He had a touchdown. And he's a rookie, so he's going to get more and more involved. And it does seem like the Dolphins need more weapons. It can't just be a chan. So Ollie Gordon is probably one of the guys I'm most interested in.

[Jason Moore]

Mike, where are you with the Chris Rodriguez commander situation and the Woody mark situation where they're 03? The Houston offense looks atrocious, but you know Nick Chubb is not bringing anything special to the offense, man.

[Mike Wright]

That's a fair, difficult question of. Rodriguez will be capped. He looked pretty good, but he will be capped of this is. It's going to be three running backs in Washington.

[Jason Moore]

You'd rather have Bill than both of the other guys?

[Mike Wright]

I would, yeah. At this point and. But that's not saying like I'm clamoring for Bill. So I. If I need production immediately, I guess Chris Rodriguez could give an 11 carries. He started the game with two drives. We don't know if that's a forever moving forward. Was that a. Hey, man, sorry. You've been in active the last couple of weeks. We're going to give you some opportunities. But Woody Marks is like. Woody Marks could be a boat. Like he's. He's that type of a player. He has juice and the guy in front of him does not.

[Jason Moore]

Where are you with Cream Hunt and his start ability right now? He's only 42% rostered. Everybody rosters Pacheco. Pacheco's unplayable. Kareem Hunt, nobody wants any bit of. But he scored last week, man.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think I want either. If I had to start one of them, I would certainly start Kareem Hunt over Pacheco because passing work and goal line work are there. It just seems like that is that that backfield is so split. It's funny because if you had to. If you had to start someone this week, you'd probably start Cream Hunt over a Woody Marks. But Woody Marks is, I think, on the way. He's on the way. Look at what has happened with Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb is playing 50% of the snaps and then you. And then Woody Marks, a rookie, started, you know, week one. He was not very involved. He was, you know, Damian Pierce was active back in the day. I remember when back in the day, three weeks ago, Woody Marks went from 11% of snaps up to 27% of snaps this last week up to 48% of the snaps. While they've said, okay, Damian Pierce, you're not active, we're going to get this player more involved. He had eight opportunities. So I just feel like it's. It's coming and Chubb doesn't have it.

[Jason Moore]

Unfortunately, the offensive line will not be improving.

[Andy Holloway]

That is. That is the biggest issue.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's the biggest issue. By the way, a quick detour here because we people like to know what's going on. We have a 17 team chop.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, this is a good detail.

[Jason Moore]

I just want to look to do Sir's Alley here. Now, there's only three weeks into the season. There's 17 teams.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

You know, there's a lot of different teams that could get chopped. Raise your hand and Dozer's Alley here if you have been chopped from that league already.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh, there's a hand. What's funny is the only other guy I think we've ever had back here in Deucers Alley, Raiden, I think he sat in a time or two.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Baby Jake.

[Andy Holloway]

Baby Jake. Also Chop was the first chop. So he was like the lowest of the Deucers chopped. Then the second lowest of the Deucers got chopped next in the Falcon. Then the next lowest of the Deucers got chopped in Papa Josh Owl.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not going anywhere.

[Andy Holloway]

You gone this week.

[Mike Wright]

It's the seating chart from Final Destination.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

It's working its way through.

[Jason Moore]

And if you're not familiar with a guillotine or a chop league, lowest score of the week, you're done. And there's a thousand fab in this league. How much fab did you have when you got cut, Josh?

[Andy Holloway]

All of it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

What about you, Falcon?

[Andy Holloway]

All of it.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, okay. Okay. Good work. All right. I had to. I had to bring that up because he's not in the league anymore.

[Mike Wright]

So we won't say he can't take it with you, but he. They are taking you when you die.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Other names to mention. You're looking at more of the kind of like the Trey Benson situation is exactly why we tell you every week on the show to throw Blake Corum on your roster. You know, Braylon Allen, Miles Sanders. Yeah. And it's true. I mean, I may not like watching Miles Sanders run the football, but if Javante goes down, he's the guy.

[Mike Wright]

And the Cowboys just lost another lineman, didn't they?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, they did. That's right. That's worth. Worth bringing up. The Cowboys offense is going to be.

[Jason Moore]

They're in humongous humongous trouble. They are the most delightful defense for any offense to play against. And frankly, yeah, I mean my worry was the offensive line to begin with to start the season. That was what I thought would get in the way of the Cowboys doing.

[Andy Holloway]

Enough and then they've lost two of.

[Jason Moore]

Them and CD Lamb now, like this is.

[Andy Holloway]

It's going to be tough sledding.

[Jason Moore]

It's turning into a tough season for them. So would you drop Tyrone Tracy with the injury if you're moving towards some of these other guys?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was.

[Jason Moore]

These are drop candidates. Isaiah Pacheco, would you let him go? I probably wouldn't.

[Andy Holloway]

If he was on waivers, we would be picking him up.

[Mike Wright]

We would. But he's like a landmine.

[Andy Holloway]

He is, he's a landmine. But I don't think people are going to start him right now. He's, he is a stash.

[Jason Moore]

And you're down with Dylan Sampson. That was a nice run for a week or two.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah. He's. Yeah. Good. See you later. Yeah, I mean Jerome Ford is the third down running back. He'll be the guy in on the two minute drill and otherwise it's Judkins legit.

[Andy Holloway]

He looks great.

[Jason Moore]

Wide receivers, let's talk about them wide receiver pickups, wide receiver drop candidates. And again, you can use Ultimate Dashboard to get a customized list of these guys relative to your league and who's available. Jordan Addison is back. Just check your lead. Just peak 81% rostered, been drafted, but you never know. But let's talk about the big, big signing of the week, I think. And when, when we started going through waivers at running back because we each put our rankings together, I actually didn't have Trey Tucker at the top after the big week. I'm like, oh, I'm not going to overreact. And then I moved him to the top this morning. Of overall or just the wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, that's fine.

[Jason Moore]

Of the wide because I actually like, you need to pay attention to what this offense is doing right now with Geno Smith. With the failures on the offensive line to run the football with Brock Bowers in the knee injury, I was big on deontay on Dante Thornton. He hasn't materialized. And you had a first week where Tyquan Thornton was a top 24 wide receiver and he's out there. This is the biggest part of it to me is yes, you had the eight for 145 and three. He's out there all the time. He's out there 95, 90% of snaps. So Taekwond Thornton, very explosive.

[Mike Wright]

Trey Tucker.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, gosh, yes.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

I was like, did I say that multiple times?

[Mike Wright]

You did.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, that's a horrible. It's a horrible podcast.

[Mike Wright]

I was letting you go because I.

[Jason Moore]

Didn'T know where we were me when.

[Andy Holloway]

I sound that he did eventually.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, stop.

[Jason Moore]

Everything I said Train Chance.

[Andy Holloway]

I love Michael Keaton.

[Jason Moore]

Everything I said find and replace anytime. I said the wrong name. With Trey Tucker. The whole point was Trey Tucker is on the field all the time.

[Mike Wright]

Love Tyquan Thornton so much.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean, he's another name we'll bring up. But I do think Trey Tucker is actually valuable. I think he's important to talk about. You know, Smith can throw the ball deep. And I don't like Brock Bowers has been a disappointment so far.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Brock Bowers was awesome, and then he hurt his knee and then has been not the same Brock Bowers. So I expect a couple more weeks of kind of mediocrity from Bowers as he works his way back to health, and then he'll just be awesome. Brock Bowers. Trey Tucker is a fine. I don't think he is a great player despite his 145 and three touchdowns, but he's fine. Like you said, he's on the field all the time. This is a Raiders team that is probably going to have to throw more than they want. You know, they would love to give the ball to Ash and Genty and Milk leads, but they're not going to have them as often as they want.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, when I look at the other names, is there somebody that you actually want over? Trey Tucker?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, for me, Torrey Horton is a player that I want to. Tory Horton is very talented. He's a rookie coming in for the Seattle Seahawks this last week in your fantasy leagues. He did. He probably didn't get as much value as he brought to the Seahawks because he had the. Was it a punch or a kickoff? I can't remember which. I think it was a punt return for a touchdown. But he's looked.

[Jason Moore]

He also had a regular touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yeah, he had. He had two touchdowns in the game. One that scored for you, for fantasy. But he has really looked good. He's. He's avoided tacklers. He. He has played the part, and I think he's a better. Like, you know, when you. When you talk about potential, what could they become? I don't think Trey Tucker can develop into something really special by the end of the year. We're going in. You know, that's the that guy broke out and he is like a really, really special guy. Thornton still has a lot of room to grow so it's just a matter of what you need. If I had to start one of them this week, I think the floor is higher now he's doing it. Oh man.

[Mike Wright]

What's going on?

[Andy Holloway]

You did Tori Horton at least mine at least mine Rhyme sounds similar.

[Jason Moore]

Mine made sense because I said Dante.

[Mike Wright]

Thornton and Trey Tucker and Taekwond Thornton is two T's.

[Andy Holloway]

Who are we talking about?

[Mike Wright]

I don't even know anymore. I'm going to jump in. I Troy Franklin. Troy Franklin is someone that I'm still going after that. The the output was not what you had hoped after the, you know the week two sensation where he was the wide receiver too. But he's out there like these other guys. Trey Tucker. I'm fine going. I'm chasing after Trey Tucker. You know I don't think he's a rando enough that you just completely dismiss it and he's super speedy guy. Can he be the number two for a while for the Raiders where Tori Hortons an exciting rookie but you have two other established guys on that team. Denver. They're kind of the thing of the off season was who's going to who will step up and be the number two guy. Marvin Mims was getting the snaps in the preseason. Those have evaporated. Franklin's the one who's getting the snaps. So he is the he's the one I think I'm chasing the most of and he may not even be the.

[Jason Moore]

Most he's number one on your wide receiver list.

[Mike Wright]

I'll go verify that but I of the guys we've talked about so far.

[Jason Moore]

And Horton's number one on your list. Jason yes. So I O man are still out there. Sterling shepherd will have a huge opportunity in Tampa Bay with the Evans injury. Even if Godwin comes back. Sterling shepherd basically available in every single league. He's a perfect spot start. He's had four more targets in every game and those should go up. And Baker's cooking so I mean you have opportunities to you know Philly's going to stop the run. Maybe Sterling Shepard is a little spot start option for your team that is the cheapest in the fab department. You know, people may chase the three touchdowns of Trey Tucker like I'm they probably he's number one on my list because I think it will Sustain he ran 37 routes last week or actually he's averaging that per game. He's playing Every snap. And Geno is a spot start. I know. For us this week. Sure. So he's number one on my list. But I'm not going to break the bank on him. You have to. And a lot of people might after chasing those numbers. Whereas Shepard is rather free. Tyquan Thornton legitimately talking about him this time.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

He was. He had nine targets. He was 5 for 71 in a touchdown. He was so close to another touchdown on two separate plays. Made a great catch the week before. Had a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

He might be the best pickup. He's a great matchup. Against Baltimore. Who has given up the most points in the league. Now granted, the points that they gave up was against Buffalo and against the Lions. Great offenses. But they're playing the Chiefs. How crazy is it that one of those two teams is going to be one and three?

[Mike Wright]

That's fascinating.

[Andy Holloway]

One of them will be a three loss team into week four. The Chiefs or the Ravens?

[Mike Wright]

Now are we saying the Chiefs are a good offense?

[Andy Holloway]

I was saying they've got a quarterback that can throw a ball to Thornton. You're not playing against someone.

[Jason Moore]

Good offense or a quarterback that can throw the ball to Thornton. Which one is it? A quarterback that could throw it to Thornton. Look, he's the best weapon they have right now. Now worthy. Is he going to be back soon?

[Andy Holloway]

Hopefully. But it's still one of those over the top type of players that the Ravens have given up. And if you want to talk about a spot start from an over the top defense that lets you go long. I mean, it'll sound weird, but Don Tavian Wicks is matching up perfectly against those Cowboys. There was a play. If you didn't see the flea flicker from the Chicago Bears and it was talked about afterwards that their coaching staff of the Bears kind of found that if you. If you pull the Cowboys in, you can beat him over the top. They just found that and they. And it was so true that DeAndre Swift did the worst flea flicker passback of all time. He threw it 20ft in the air.

[Mike Wright]

He did a softball slow pitch.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And it was. Gave the defense tons of time to react. Still worked.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, to me that's why Matthew golden is my start of the week this week.

[Mike Wright]

Oh. I mean, whoa.

[Jason Moore]

For those.

[Andy Holloway]

It is not Thursday.

[Jason Moore]

No, but it is. No, he is. You got to turn that down. He is. He's only 80% rostered. He's the same as Addison. So you need to glance. That's a. Drop it like it's hot. People let go of Golden. He had seven opportunities last week in a week where the Browns were terrible. He is a must start to me this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Perfect. Either one of them. Someone is getting a bomb touchdown in that game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I agree. Other names to throw out there. Luther Burden.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's the.

[Jason Moore]

You're going to stop. If you're going to put like Horton on your bench. You can put Burden on your.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's the other kind of stash type of a name. It was only, you know, three. Three targets. Obviously he hit the big play, but with the way that the off season went, it was destined to be a slow burn. A slow start here for Luther Burden.

[Jason Moore]

But yeah, very limited snaps. So it's a stash.

[Andy Holloway]

But.

[Mike Wright]

But both him and I got. We'll talk about love when we get to tight ends. But like, what is DJ Moore in this offense?

[Jason Moore]

Running back.

[Mike Wright]

And because Rome, you know, Rome seems to be just taking the wide receiver one position away from DJ Moore, despite what the bank accounts say. And I know I've kind of said all off season of like Luther Burton would not surprise me if he ends up as the number two wide receiver. I don't know who the number one will be, but I think that Burden could just end up being that number two guy. Especially if Ben Johnson starts figuring out, you know, utilizing him in the slot and everything, Almond Ross style. So I think Burden is a good stash at the end of the bench. While if other people are burning Fab to get, you know, to chase Trey Tucker and the. And Tyquan Thornton, then okay, if you.

[Jason Moore]

Don'T need to start.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'll just put Burton on the back of the bench and see what happens this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Couple of you go first.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I was going to get to drop candidates. So if you have other players you.

[Andy Holloway]

Want to mention first, there's a couple of kind of injury situations. One is CD Lamb is gone. So do either of you care about the other guys in Dallas? That Turpin. Yeah. Okay. Moving from there.

[Mike Wright]

Another.

[Andy Holloway]

Another deep one. Parker Washington had 11 targets. Diamond Brown is injured in a PPR league. There's that. And then Christian Kirk. I don't know if we brought him up.

[Jason Moore]

Kirk is worth bringing up eight targets and back Houston and they desperately needed him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So yeah, he's. He's half. He's rostered in half of leagues. Drop candidate names are tough, man. They're tough ones. Josh Downs, it's been three downs weeks for him. Although the targets in week two was pretty good. Stefan Diggs, we see like diggs is just if he catches the ball, if he catches the ball at some underneath eight yard route where he falls down afterwards, it's not explosive.

[Mike Wright]

We have all the, all the games on. All of the televisions are in the lobby and I know Stefan Diggs is getting catches.

[Andy Holloway]

You're just like, have you seen one?

[Mike Wright]

No. Yeah, they feel like the most interesting.

[Jason Moore]

Calvin Ridley. Calvin Ridley has 27 yards, 57 yards, 27 yards. New play caller. IO Manor is more valuable to me.

[Andy Holloway]

That's tough, man. Eight targets, six targets, seven targets and air yards. That's. It's a really hard drop for me.

[Mike Wright]

It is. But I think I would. I'd plant a landmine.

[Jason Moore]

Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter had good target numbers the first two weeks. Last week, just two you just talked about, like Damie Brown's hurt Parker Washington ended up with 11 targets.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not dropping Hunter, but I am benching him.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

We're very close to a drop.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. All right, we'll take a break and come back with tight ends, defense and our streaming quarterback options.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

All right, Jason, do you buy into Hunter Henry? We have Drake May finally at the helm and this connection has been very good. Last week, 11 targets, eight for 90 and two. If you are Pitts or Najoku or. Or, you know, Kelsey, like, are you actively fab bidding on Hunter Henry?

[Andy Holloway]

I think Hunter Henry is someone that you can pick up. Yeah. If you've got David Ajoku. I'd rather roll out Hunter Henry right now. I'm not spending up on Hunter Henry chasing an incredible game, two touchdowns, tons of targets. Hunter Henry has done this plenty of times. We know that Hunter Henry can go out there and get 10 catches for 70 yards and a touchdown or two. This isn't the first or the second or the third time he's done it. And then he'll go away and he'll.

[Jason Moore]

Seem like Diggs, though, and Demario or. And Douglas. Diggs and Douglas are invisible. So I just wondered if maybe the offense is different for Drake May.

[Andy Holloway]

It is possible that it runs through Hunter Henry, but really what we've seen and we don't like this for fantasy that much, but Drake May has spread the ball around a lot, which is usually unfortunate for you. You want the consolidation of targets so Hunter Henry is fully capable. You could chase us eight targets week one, 11 targets week three. But I do, you know, I don't think he's going to be a consistent.

[Mike Wright]

8 target mark and Hunter Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

I would take Hunter Henry.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Isaiah likely is going to come back. I just mentioned it earlier. Isaiah likely is a pickup for me. I think that they will utilize him in the passing game more. I know Mark Andrews had a humongous game this last week. Zay Flowers was taken out of the equation and Mark Andrews was the beneficiary. But up to that point this season, we've seen Mark Andrews really utilized as a blocker more than as a field stretcher. And they haven't had likely.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm prioritizing Henry. Kate Otten is to be paid attention to, but it's hard when he has Kate Otten. I mean, he had a goose in week three.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like Kate Otten is a fine pickup. Yeah, I really do. They. They will have to throw it around Baker. Baker spreads the ball around a lot as well. Buka can't catch. You know, he can't get 100% of the targets.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, we had the.

[Jason Moore]

He's just been so bad so far this year.

[Mike Wright]

He has.

[Jason Moore]

It freaks me out. I mean, you're right. We're talking about Sterling Shepherd. So we should be talking about Kate Otten.

[Mike Wright]

He is. Yes, Kyle. He is the Charles Clay type of a player. This is a Mr. Necessary. You had a run last year of four straight weeks of a top 12 performance tied in 12, 4, 2, 3.

[Jason Moore]

I wonder if he's not healthy.

[Mike Wright]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, because he was. He was banged up and hurt. And then playing the way that he.

[Mike Wright]

Gets every catch, he just gets exploded. So it's very possible he is hurt. The. The optimism I would have for him if you're gonna go into. If you're going to dive into that pool, is now they. The game plan will be different.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly.

[Mike Wright]

Like they weren't planning for Mike Evans to strain his hamstring. Now we have to build it around the guys we have. And Kate otten should see five plus target.

[Andy Holloway]

Kate Odden's playing 90% of the snaps, too. So that's what you want. You want a guy that's, you know, on the field actually running routes.

[Jason Moore]

And if you want somebody that has not been rostered by anybody, but could be their starting tight end next week, if Will Disley misses more time.

[Mike Wright]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

Had seven targets, five for 46. A Ronde Gad for the Chargers.

[Mike Wright]

The great Gadsden.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

I like it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

He's got to do something.

[Jason Moore]

It's a tough name.

[Mike Wright]

He did. He G a D5 for 46.

[Jason Moore]

D. E, N. Gadsden. Too many Ds in there.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I feel like when you said it, you threw a T in there.

[Jason Moore]

Gadston. You thought I said Gadston. No, like a Gadget. Gad speed.

[Andy Holloway]

Like you hit the first D and the second D was a T. Gadsten.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Gadsden.

[Jason Moore]

All right, thanks. We'll leave it to you. Gadsden. Defensive options this year, I just.

[Mike Wright]

I want to throw out real quick. This might be longer term situation, and he somehow is still rostered a ton. But Colston Loveland, he played five.

[Jason Moore]

He's. He's hurt, though.

[Mike Wright]

No, I know, but they're. They're saying it's not a big deal. So this is just more of a be aware of. He ran five routes and per fantasy points. He ran five routes before he got hurt. And per fantasy points, he had three first read targets on those five routes. So like that on paper, that looked like a game where they're like, hey, we're going to get Burden. Burden, and we're going to get Loveland. We're going to get them going. So it just paying attention to it.

[Jason Moore]

Defensive options this week. Who do you like?

[Andy Holloway]

The defenses. So you got the Chargers going up against now what will be a first start for Jackson Dart? I think those are always good, although I prefer the second start once you get a little bit of film on them. The Detroit Lions who just shut down.

[Mike Wright]

The Baltimore Ravens and they're a double up.

[Andy Holloway]

They're going to be at home against Cleveland, which they will throw picks, they will take sacks. That's a great matchup. And you're saying it's a double up because the following week they're going to go on the road to Cincinnati, play against Jake Browning. Those are my two favorites.

[Mike Wright]

Might be a triple of chief stink.

[Jason Moore]

Minnesota was unbelievable last week and they're facing Pittsburgh this week. It is on the road but Pittsburgh, that offense does not look very good.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

I would pay up for the Texans as well going against Tennessee this week. Sometimes you just need to do a one week like pay three or four fab dollars to make sure you get a guy because if you end up scoring six more points at your defensive position that could be the difference between a win and a loss.

[Mike Wright]

Do you prefer the Houston Texans against Cam Ward or the Washington Commanders on the road against Michael Penix?

[Andy Holloway]

The Texans. I think the Texans defense is really, really good. It's going to be a struggle bus for Cam Ward this week.

[Jason Moore]

The Patriots are great too. I mean they're at home against Carolina. Bryce Young on the road. That's been a recipe for success for defenses and the Commanders that you just mentioned. All the waiver wire rankings including the defenses on the website at the fantasy footballers.com streaming Quarterbacks in a moment here. That was this week's waiver wire presented by Walmart. Who knew you can get what you need in as fast as an hour. Get free Delivery on your First Express Delivery Order with the code Express Valid for First Express Delivery Order $50 minimum Subject to availability restrictions. Apply.

[Andy Holloway]

Full stream ahead.

[Jason Moore]

All right, if you are in dire straits of quarterback, you need a streaming option for this week. Who's it going to be?

[Mike Wright]

I'll kick us off because my game is first. It is on Thursday night. Samuel Darnold. Here we are. Was Sam Darnold the reason the Vikings were good? It started to look more and more like that is the case. Week one was brutal for Darnold but then the next two weeks he has been really strong for fantasy and that includes QB11 last week where he played just a portion of the game. They are being very aggressive going down the field, especially with JSN and this breakout. That is happening. He ranks top 10 in pass success rate, completion percentage, yards per attempt and sac rate. And on top of that gets to take on the Arizona Cardinals, who are just not very good.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to go next with Geno Smith. If you believe in Trey Tucker as a pickup, AKA Dante Thornton, then AKA Taekwondo. Yeah, I mean, all the Thorntons let's, you know, throw Besh in there. His name is also Thornton. Geno Smith, he was the quarterback for last week. Two of his three games he has been at 10 or more yards per pass attempt. That is only Lamar and Gino have done that. For context, that's as many games of 10 plus yards per past as Justin Herbert has for his entire career. So he's chucking it, he is slinging it. And Chicago's past defense has not been very good. Their star cornerback Jalen Johnson just got surgery, so he will be out. He's not out for the season, but he's gone for a while. A big over, under 47 and a half. It's indoors. A lot of things I look for. I think Geno Smith is kind of a pickup and play.

[Jason Moore]

And I want to remind people Justin Fields could be a very good start this week if he's back off the concussion protocol. They do. He does get extra time with the Monday Night Football game facing Miami. Miami's 25th against quarterbacks dead last in play, success rate and expected points per play. It's a really good matchup. And Justin Fields has the legs. So if he's back from the concussion, which I don't know if we'll get word on that before Thursday, but just pay attention to that because I think he would be a streaming candidate. He had a great week one, A dud of a week two with the concussion, but definitely an option.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, I'd go right back to Fields if I had him. You get Miami and then you get Dallas the next week for Justin Fields.

[Jason Moore]

Speaking of Dallas, people want to know if they can drop Dak.

[Mike Wright]

Man, if.

[Andy Holloway]

So, here's what you can't do. You can't play Dak. Okay, so Dak.

[Jason Moore]

So then you got a roster to.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly. I am. I have this situation in a lot of places where I have him, I have the stack and because of that I am waiting. I'm going to roster Dak. But what you have to do is you have to look at do you have enough bench space to actually roster two? If you don't, then you have to move on from Dak and cut him. But you should not be starting dak right now. His schedule is brutal and he doesn't have CD lam and he doesn't have a strong offensive line for a couple more weeks.

[Jason Moore]

On tomorrow's episode, we'll talk some trades. We'll get into the Thursday night preview and then Thursday, Friday, the matchup starts of the week. The Fantasy Face off in the Wheel of Shame returns again on Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

So.

[Jason Moore]

That'Ll be the rest of the week. So thank you for joining us. Check out jointhefoot.com for the community and the Discord Channel and the Ultimate Dashboard and we'll be back for another episode tomorrow.

[Mike Wright]

Goodbye.

[Andy Holloway]

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