Week 6 Matchups, In-or-Out, Boatraces & Cakewalks

Summary

Podcast Summary: Fantasy Footballers - Week 6 Matchups, In-or-Out, Boatraces & Cakewalks

Episode Details:

• Title: Fantasy Footballers - Fantasy Football Podcast
• Episode: Week 6 Matchups, In-or-Out, Boatraces & Cakewalks
• Release Date: October 12, 2018
• Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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1. Season Performance and Key Player Analyses

Eli Manning vs. Saquon Barkley: The hosts kick off the episode by discussing Eli Manning's underwhelming performance contrasted with Saquon Barkley's exceptional play.

• Andy Holloway states, “Eli Manning is as bad as Saquon Barkley is good” (02:18).
• Mike Wright critiques the Giants' offensive line, emphasizing, “...every snap, it's a race. What gets to the quarterback first, the defense or the ball” (02:10).
• Jason Moore concurs, highlighting the negative impact on fantasy teams.

Saquon Barkley's Dominance: Saquon Barkley's recent surge is lauded as possibly making him the best running back in football.

• Andy Holloway: “Is there a better running back in football? ... there's Saquon Barkley” (03:47).
• Mike Wright: Compares Barkley’s talent to peers, asserting, “...Todd Gurley is just as good. I would say David Johnson is just as good as far as just pure talent” (04:06).
• Andy Holloway shares Barkley's impressive stats, including a 36.5 fantasy point game (04:26).

2. Odell Beckham Jr. Concerns and Trade Considerations

Performance Fluctuations: Odell Beckham Jr.'s inconsistent performance raises concerns among fantasy owners.

• Andy Holloway: Questions Beckham’s reliability, “His targets and the downfield targets are not there” (07:25).
• Mike Wright: Despite concerns, he maintains Beckham as a top-tier option, “I still see him as a top 10 fantasy wide receiver this season” (06:07).

Trade Strategy: The discussion shifts to trading Beckham during perceived low-value periods.

• Andy Holloway: Suggests looking for bargains, “you can buy. Especially because it was Thursday Night Football” (07:45).
• Jason Moore: Considers swapping Beckham for other high-potential players like Stefan Diggs or Cooper Kupp, though consensus remains cautious.

3. In-or-Out: Injury Updates and Player Availability

The hosts review the status of key players, determining who should be included (in) or excluded (out) from fantasy lineups based on injuries and game-time decisions.

• Running Backs:

  • DeSean Watson: Expected to play despite chest injuries (14:03).
  • Matt Breida: Doubtful due to injuries, likely sitting out (14:15).
  • Isaiah Cruell: Status uncertain; limited practice raises doubts (14:18).
  • Dalvin Cook: Discussed with caution, but managers leaning towards playing him if fully fit (14:50).

• Wide Receivers:

  • Randall Cobb: Expressed concerns about consistency despite being active (15:57).
  • George Kittle: Limited practice but expected to play (16:47).

• Tight Ends:

  • Geronimo Allison and Eric Ebron: Mixed statuses with Allison clearing concussion protocols but Ebron dealing with multiple injuries (16:48).

• Others:

  • O.J. Howard: Likely out despite limited practice (17:25).

Notable Quotes:

• Jason Moore: “Robbie Anderson has maxed out at three receptions in a game. Like that's the most he's had this year.” (26:28)
• Andy Holloway: “Greg Olson's supposed to play [...] If you have Morris and Breida.” (17:00)

4. Fantasy Matchups: In-Depth Week 6 Analysis

The core of the episode delves into detailed analyses of various NFL matchups, highlighting fantasy implications, player performances, and strategic decisions.

Colts vs. Jets

• Andrew Luck's Reliability: Concerns about Luck's performance against a strong Jets defense.
  • Andy Holloway: “... can you really trust Andrew Luck now?” (22:36)
• Running Backs Focus: Emphasis on Alex Collins and Bilal Powell as key RBs for the Colts.
  • Mike Wright: “I would rather play Philip Lindsay than Alex Collins.” (45:04)

Seahawks vs. Raiders

• Russell Wilson vs. Raiders Defense: Debate over starting Wilson given the defensive weaknesses.
  • Mike Wright: “I would rather have what my rankings say, which is Brady.” (51:08)
• Wide Receiver Strategy: Preference for Tyler Lockett and Doug Baldwin over other options.
  • Andy Holloway: “Jak Cooper, out before this past week, he's right at the number 10 on the season.” (04:06)

Bears vs. Broncos

• Philip Lindsay vs. Rams' Defense: Analysis of Lindsay’s workloads against a porous Rams defense.
  • Mike Wright: “I picked the Broncos to cover as well.” (37:33)
• Game Script Considerations: Predicting a closer game based on Broncos' defensive struggles.

Jaguars vs. Cowboys

• Wide Receiver Volatility: Highlighting Dee Dee Westbrook’s inconsistent yet high-potential performances.
  • Andy Holloway: “It's the lack of touchdowns.” (41:46)
• Quarterback Performance: Dak Prescott’s underwhelming fantasy contributions.
  • Mike Wright: “Dak Prescott, one of the worst fantasy quarterbacks in the league.” (42:49)

Ravens vs. Titans

• Alex Collins vs. Titans' Defense: Evaluating Collins’ potential against a solid Titans defense.
  • Mike Wright: “I would rather play Philip Lindsay than Alex Collins.” (45:04)

Chiefs vs. Patriots

• Star-QB Showdown: Comparing quarterbacks Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes, debating their fantasy viability.
  • Jason Moore: “I would rather have Brady.” (50:35)
• High Scoring Game Potential: Expectation of a high-over game with significant fantasy points.
  • Andy Holloway: “The Chiefs have allowed the most attempts per game this year.” (50:35)

Packers vs. 49ers

• Aaron Jones vs. Jamal Williams: Discussing Jones’ pass protection versus Williams’ consistent carries.
  • Andy Holloway: “Aaron Jones is grading far better than Jamal Williams in pass protection.” (56:26)
• Wide Receiver Depth: Strategies for managing inconsistent receiver performances.

5. Fantasy Forecast and Weekly Recommendations

The hosts provide actionable insights and recommendations for fantasy managers based on the analyses.

• Saquon Barkley: Highly recommended due to his dominant performances.
• Odell Beckham Jr.: Trade considerations highlighted, suggesting potential undervaluation.
• George Kittle & Other TE Options: Conditional starts based on their health and game plans.

Notable Forecast Strategies:

• Mike Wright advocates for starting high-ceiling players like Josh Gordon in favorable matchups.
• Jason Moore emphasizes the importance of consistency over occasional high performances.
• Andy Holloway encourages managers to prioritize volume and favorable scripts when selecting players.

6. Community Engagement and Giveaways

The hosts engage with their audience through giveaways and encourage participation in the Fantasy Footballers community.

• Andy Holloway: Announces a $55 gift card giveaway for Foot Clan Friday and promotes their DFS podcast (10:26).
• Jason Moore: Encourages listeners to nominate the podcast for awards and participate in live interactions (63:56).

7. Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Wrapping up, the hosts reiterate the importance of strategic lineup decisions and staying informed to maximize fantasy football success. They emphasize the year-round dedication required to stay competitive and offer final tips for the upcoming week’s games.

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Timestamps of Notable Quotes:

• Andy Holloway: “Eli Manning is as bad as Saquon Barkley is good.” (02:18)
• Mike Wright: “I still see him as a top 10 fantasy wide receiver this season.” (06:07)
• Jason Moore: “Robbie Anderson has maxed out at three receptions in a game.” (26:28)
• Andy Holloway: “Can you really trust Andrew Luck now?” (22:36)
• Mike Wright: “I would rather have what my rankings say, which is Brady.” (51:08)
• Mike Wright: “Dak Prescott, one of the worst fantasy quarterbacks in the league.” (42:49)
• Andy Holloway: “This game's got an over under like that, are you okay starting him?” (52:48)

(Note: The timestamps are referenced as per the transcript minutes and seconds.)

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, Foot Clan. Before we start today's show, I just wanted to say thank you on behalf of all three of us, the entire Fantasy Footballers team. Thank you for supporting this show [e-mail] since the beginning. You've been with us as we've grown this independent podcast and we could not have done it without you. We continue to do it with you and we thank you so very much for supporting [e-mail].

[Mike Wright]

Hey, this is David Johnson, running back of the Arizona Cardinals, and you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Ah, welcome in. I see that hat week. Oh, is over. Hat weeks are over. My mic is trim.

[Jason Moore]

It's come to a thrilling conclusion that ended with me getting a haircut.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, congratulations on it. Did you do some beard trimming, too?

[Jason Moore]

I did.

[Andy Holloway]

You just got real tight. Real tight.

[Jason Moore]

You gotta sculpt it up every once in a while.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you're looking nice. My.

[Jason Moore]

My semi annual haircut.

[Andy Holloway]

What? Look.

[Jason Moore]

Ever? Once every six months. That's all I can do.

[Andy Holloway]

I know getting a haircut isn't the most difficult thing to do, but at this point, you've gotten a haircut. As far as I'm concerned, that may qualify you to play quarterback for the Giants. Do you want that job?

[Jason Moore]

That's all it takes these days is a haircut.

[Andy Holloway]

We're going to go with the haircut.

[Mike Wright]

Let me tell you this. You would still be better than Eli, but you do not. You do not want that job. That offensive line, I mean, I. Look, Eli is playing poorly. I mean, it's. It's absurd. But. And he deserves so much blame. But not all of it, because that offensive line is unbelievable. I mean, in a bad way. In a bad way. I mean, it's always a race. Every snap, it's a race. What gets to the quarterback first, the defense or the ball. That's how it felt.

[Jason Moore]

That's not a race I want my quarterback involved in.

[Andy Holloway]

No, everybody wants to say, like I tweeted last night, I said, Eli Manning is as bad as Saquon Barkley is good. And you had 80% of the people who have eyeballs and. No, that's true.

[Mike Wright]

It's like an SAT question.

[Andy Holloway]

Right? And then you have the other 20% that think I'm stupid by not acknowledging the offensive line in the sentence. Listen, they can all be true. You can have a bad offensive line, bad play calling, and A bad quarterback. And that's what we saw last night.

[Jason Moore]

We did.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think the play calling is the problem because I don't believe that pat Shermer calls 12 screens in a row. I don't think that's what he's called. You know, that's not like the design. Pat Shermer's got to be going.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you know what Pat Shermer needs to do, then stop calling. Place that has that as an outlet.

[Mike Wright]

But he has to have it as an outlet with offensive, I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

It'S a behavioral addiction of Eli Manning. And the thing is, is there was a clip of Pat Shermer the week before, and you can read his lips and he's screaming, throw the ball. And he checked it down again after that play. If you want to know what would be different without Eli, look at the other side of the football field, where Carson Wentz can escape the pocket, can make a play, can prolong a play. You just need a couple seconds. He's just got both feet in cement. And that's the problem. And this is not the anti Eli show. This is the pro Saquon show.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my goodness.

[Andy Holloway]

Is there a better running back? Genuinely? Is there a better running back in football? Now that's, you know, reactionary, sure. But I saw the poll go up everywhere with Ezekiel Elliott and Le'Veon Bell and David Johnson and Todd Gurley and then Saquon Barkley. After what you saw last night, there's.

[Mike Wright]

Certainly better fantasy running backs. But as far as barely pure, just as far as pure running back talent, I would still say Todd Gurley is just as good. I would say David Johnson is just as good as far as just pure talent.

[Andy Holloway]

Very impressive performance last night by Saquon.

[Jason Moore]

And then you're skipping over Le'Veon Bell.

[Mike Wright]

Really, you know, Le'Veon Bell is unbelievable. He's. He's a freak athlete when he. When it comes to his receiving skills, and that's great. But I actually don't put Le'Veon Bell.

[Andy Holloway]

I would actually put Levy on. I put Le'Veon at 1.

[Mike Wright]

That's where I would have him as like 5.

[Jason Moore]

Le'Veon is not as physically gifted like his athletic measurables. He's not as fast. He's not even anywhere close to as fast as Saquon Barkley. But Bell just is a great running back.

[Andy Holloway]

So the last two weeks for Saquon Barkley, 19 touches total. And then last night he had by the garbage time, he ended up with over 2013 for 130 and a touchdown on the ground nine for 99. Oh because they pretty disappointed they decided to Wayne Gallman the end of that game. But 36 and a half fantasy points in our league of record. Absolutely dominant considering you know, that the defense knows what's coming. Now For Odell Beckham Jr owners, are you worried about this situation? I mean he was fined for his comments last week. I'm sure they, they were a stab in the heart of Lyons ownership. When you pay him the money he wanted and he immediately they asked him are you happy in New York? And he says that's a complicated question. You know, you've been paid to be happy at this point. And I get it. It's about the team and the offense and the trajectory and wanting the ball and punching the air conditioner and leav halftime. But are you concerned as a fantasy owner for Odell Beckham Jr. Because last week.

[Jason Moore]

Are we talking short term or long term?

[Andy Holloway]

We're talking this season because last week his numbers were inflated with a passing touchdown. He did have a touchdown through the air for the first time all year. But last night you see it, it's all short plays. He has to stiff arm somebody and then try to gain 8 yards. I mean, is he not a top 10 guy this year?

[Mike Wright]

No, he's definitely a top 10 guy. I mean, I don't worry to that degree. You have to keep in mind what we're talking about with this offensive line, the Philadelphia pass rush. That defensive line is incredible and that's part of why they couldn't. That's part of why Eli every time he dropped back and I don't think they're going to play that kind of pass rush every week. We've seen Odell Beckham have a handful of good games, only one dominant game, but I still see him as a top 10 fantasy wide receiver this season.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they have to force feed him. He is right at. Before this past week, he was right at the number 10 on the season. He was only 6 for 44 last night. And I know fantasy owners were very frustrated. My feed was filled with Odell Beckham Jr. Frustration because the talent is obviously there, the ability is obviously there, but the, the targets and the downfield targets are not there.

[Mike Wright]

Between this game against the Eagles and their next matchup against the Eagles, that's.

[Jason Moore]

What I was going to. Oh, I was going to bring up their next matchup.

[Mike Wright]

They play Atlanta. Yes. Washington, San Francisco, Tampa Bay. So, you know, I'm not as worried about Eli or would you target him.

[Andy Holloway]

After this down performance then? Yeah, because people are trying to trade him.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, you can. I believe right now you can buy. Especially because it was Thursday Night Football. It's one of those games where everyone's watching and the narratives are all overdone and you're going to be able to get Odell Beckham on the cheap right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, so maybe look, maybe look for a guy that does blow up this past week, this next weekend, that's in that second tier. Maybe it's a Stefan Diggs. Right. Would you swap Stefan Diggs for Odell.

[Mike Wright]

Beckham Jr. That's tough because I think.

[Jason Moore]

Stefan Diggs is a guy as well.

[Mike Wright]

I would want to take someone like Robert woods my start of the week if he's. If he explodes and you go, no, I.

[Jason Moore]

Look, it's possible because I've seen outrageous things happen on Twitter.

[Mike Wright]

People that have Odell that are worried, they think he's worthless and so would you. Okay, maybe not. Rob, what about Cooper cup, the number two wide receiver right now? Would you trade Cooper cup for Odell Beckham?

[Jason Moore]

That's a interesting question because who would you rather have?

[Andy Holloway]

What about A.J. green?

[Jason Moore]

I'd rather have A.J. green.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would rather we not. We don't want. We don't want Beckham.

[Jason Moore]

No, we do. I want top 10 guys.

[Mike Wright]

I want.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the problem.

[Mike Wright]

I want to trade basically a wide receiver to type with something else for Odell.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, we have a busy, busy show today. The second half of the fantasy forecast going through the rest of the matchups. We have in and out. We have the daily dose per usual and we'll. We're going to get into all of it. And if you missed some of the matchups they were on yesterday's show, make sure you go back and listen, get all the way caught up so you're prepared to win. That's what the show's about. It's about equipping you to win and enjoy each and every week of fantasy football. That's why we're here year round, because fantasy football is year round, man.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Never stops, never stops.

[Mike Wright]

Can't stop, won't stop.

[Andy Holloway]

It's also Friday.

[Mike Wright]

Foot Clan Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, not only did Saquon have a delightful, wonderful yard reception last night, which was unbelievable. Best play I've seen this year was that reception. I saw the next gen stats from NFL.com the expected yard after catch for Saquon's reception was 14 yards and he gained 55. And if you watch the kind of like the overhead view of how many people are around him. Incredible. But not only did he have a 55 yard reception, we have a $55 gift card to give away to a Foot Clan Friday winner whose name is Brian McCarthy.

[Mike Wright]

Great name, Brian McCarthy. Congrats.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. What a name.

[Mike Wright]

What a name. $55 coming your way.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Congratulations. A reminder the week six DFS podcast is up. Mike, Chris and Ben recorded that yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Get you ready for DFS in week number six and the signed Corey Davis jersey and championship belt@footclan giveaway.com we're going to be wrapping that thing up real soon. So if you want a chance to win it, you want to get an entry in there, go tofoot clan giveaway.com that's all you got to do. It'll make it nice and easy. Do you have any final thoughts as to last night? Anybody on the Philly side you want to jump in on the Corey climate situation?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

We should briefly touch on Corey Clement versus Wendell Smallwood. It came out right before the game that Philadelphia, after declaring how healthy and great Corey Clement has looked that they are going to put him on a snap count. It happened. He played 36% of the snaps compared to Wendell Smallwood, 62%. But it is very clear while Smallwood is fine and he is functional for the offense, Corey Clement is the much better runner with the extended or not the like the the faux buy that comes after a Thursday night game. Corey Clement is the running back.

[Mike Wright]

Clement is a far superior running back. He's better for their what what they want to do. I think he's clearly the goal line guy. Got it yesterday. The the worry is with them they will split clearing cap space. I worry about them bringing in another running back, whether that's LaShawn McCoy or someone else. But in the meantime we can't know that. I do want Corey Clement. That's. That's the back I want to make sure I've got.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah and I when that news came out and the game started and Smallwood was getting all the carries, my hope was inside of the 20 it would be Clement. That's what it was. He had three receptions to Smallwoods one and he's the more talented player. They designed more plays for him in the screen game. So he got you a touchdown last night. So if you were if you started in then you freaked out. He saved you 11 for 43 and then another 26 yards in the receiving game. Wentz was great. He's starting to kind of come around. I you Know, part of that probably is the Giants lack of effort to a degree.

[Jason Moore]

What is your outlook for Alshon Jeffrey? Because what we're used to from alshon Jeffrey is four receptions, but huge yardage on those, like 475 with the possibility of a touchdown. However, he has turned into an absolute target monster. 12 targets this in this game. He was over double digit targets the.

[Mike Wright]

Past week or even close to.

[Andy Holloway]

I was very. I've been very impressed with him. I'm super impressed with the way they're utilizing him on design plays. Like, it's not just down the field, it's slant pass, it's at the line of scrimmage. You know, the touchdown at the line of scrimmage and a screenplay at the line of scrimmage. So he's clearly the go to guy in every way, shape and form for this team. And outside of him, and I mean, it's him and Hertz, those are the guys that are going to 21 targets last night. Between the two of them. Nobody else had more than five all alone. I feel great about Jeffrey. Top 12, top 12 guy.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think you should feel. If you got him late, you're feeling great right now.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, let's get into some injuries.

[Mike Wright]

What's it gonna be, McFly?

[Jason Moore]

Are you in or out?

[Andy Holloway]

All right, what do you guys think? DeSean Watson, he'll be in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. He's dealing with that chest injury after.

[Mike Wright]

He got annihilated over and over and over and over and over.

[Andy Holloway]

But he will play at the running back position. Matt Breida is doubtful.

[Jason Moore]

I don't expect him to play.

[Mike Wright]

No, he's not gonna play.

[Andy Holloway]

Isaiah Cruell.

[Jason Moore]

This one's interesting. If he does not practice today and we don't have news yet as we're recording, then you have. He's in serious doubt if he doesn't.

[Mike Wright]

Ankle issue. Did not practice Wednesday or Thursday. Wednesday it seemed like he'd be in. Now it's definitely. You gotta. You gotta wait.

[Jason Moore]

You thought it was just rest after the big weekend.

[Andy Holloway]

Marshawn lynch, he'll play.

[Mike Wright]

He always plays.

[Andy Holloway]

Adrian Peterson, he will play too.

[Mike Wright]

Chris Thompson, I think he'll play.

[Jason Moore]

He's limited. So he'll play.

[Mike Wright]

Devonta Freeman, I do not believe he plays.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Dalvin Cook.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, he's back.

[Mike Wright]

It's weird, you know, Look, I said on yesterday's show, it's a medical mystery. I think it would be a huge mistake to play him in this game. But he practiced in full and if you're practicing in full, you're you're ready to go. So I think he. He does suit up. And if. I mean, look, every time this year, with one exception, with the exception of Alshon, every player who is coming back for their first game after an injury has sucked has destroyed your fantasy team. You don't want to do it. But the Arizona Cardinals are so bad. Do you play Dalvin Cook? He comes back.

[Jason Moore]

I do full practice against Arizona. I'm going to play Dalvin.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm with you. Sony. Michelle.

[Jason Moore]

Limited because of the knee. It's just resting. So he'll play all right.

[Andy Holloway]

At the wide receiver position. In or out? Cooper Cup. Brandon Cooks.

[Mike Wright]

I believe both of them will be in. It's. You got to keep monitoring. But they are progressing through the concussion protocol.

[Andy Holloway]

We're just going to stick with the team theme. Geronimo Allison. Randall Cop.

[Jason Moore]

Geronimo.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

He has cleared the concussion protocol. He is dealing with a hamstring injury as well. I feel confident he will play Randall Cobb.

[Mike Wright]

No, is.

[Jason Moore]

Man, it's weird.

[Mike Wright]

Randall Cobb is just. Look, we've got. Body has betrayed. Three years of Randall Cobb is just always out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that makes it easy. All the Texans wide receivers are in. In, In.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

So that would be Fuller Hopkins, Cootie cutie, Mark Sneaky, Kiki Marquis, Goodwin practicing.

[Mike Wright]

In full, probably in. And I still don't want him.

[Andy Holloway]

And Pierre Garcon.

[Jason Moore]

He's questionable. He did not practice on Thursday, so. But I don't know that anyone's actually playing him outside of a really deep league or dynasty league.

[Andy Holloway]

Jump in here at the tight end position. George Kittle. He didn't practice on Wednesday. He was limited Thursday. I think they didn't expect him to practice, like maybe either day and still was going to play him. So I think he's in.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would say in as well.

[Andy Holloway]

Eric Ebron with the shin, quad shin.

[Jason Moore]

Ankle, knee and quad. Knee and quad, shin, ankle, knee and quad.

[Mike Wright]

He still didn't practice Thursday, but I think this is just rest. They have to have him. They don't have anybody else.

[Andy Holloway]

Jack Doyle?

[Jason Moore]

Doubtful.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's dealing with a major hip issue.

[Andy Holloway]

Greg Olson's supposed to play.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, let's. Let's see what he can do.

[Andy Holloway]

Someone asked me. Cameron Braid or Greg Olson?

[Jason Moore]

Cameron Braid.

[Mike Wright]

Cameron Braid.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree with you. Rudolph or Olson? You play. Rudolph. You play. You play. Anybody that you think you can rely on other than Olson to see what you get? In Olson.

[Jason Moore]

Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

Jimmy Graham.

[Mike Wright]

In.

[Jason Moore]

In.

[Andy Holloway]

And then I guess OJ Howard had limited practices. He's gonna be out though, isn't he?

[Jason Moore]

That's bizarre. I mean, he had the. The sprained mcl. This does not match up with the normal recovery timeline. So I'm still expecting to be out despite the practice.

[Mike Wright]

I do, too, but I worry, like, if he's in, I. All the Cameron Brait love is like. I mean, Cameron Brait can still have a great game, right, with O.J. howard there, but I don't. I don't love it as much. All of a sudden, I would flip that and say, okay, Greg Olson, you're in.

[Andy Holloway]

How is Howard? Shin, quad, and ankle, though. His knees banged up, but everything else is good.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think so.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, don't forget this is our prequel to some final injury decisions. You can see our final results with the game day [e-mail] an hour before Sunday kickoff. Mike will also be live. We're doing it live on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, Periscope, Twitch, Follow us everywhere. I mean, imagine a world where you're watching Mike live on live platforms at the same time.

[Jason Moore]

That's incredible.

[Mike Wright]

It's awesome.

[Andy Holloway]

It is.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

Brooks. Even think what the Instagram is a slightly different angle. I mean, you could. It is this haircut you could just diagnose.

[Mike Wright]

We need to get each platform with a slightly different angle and then set up a TV system where you can watch Mike in the round.

[Jason Moore]

Like Max Head.

[Andy Holloway]

Mike in the round.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man. You've never had a better idea in your life.

[Mike Wright]

Thank you.

[Jason Moore]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I think he's addicted at this point. But look, Brooks, RXBar believes in the power of transparency and lets the core ingredients do all the talking. That's why they list them right on the front of the packaging. Brooks loves transparency.

[Jason Moore]

He does.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Yeah. No, I'm not.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

This isn't just Brooks.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Fantasy forecast.

[Jason Moore]

Brooks changed the spelling of his name, actually. Yeah, there's not an S at the end of the anymore.

[Andy Holloway]

What is it? An X. Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

Because he loves RX bars.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

It's just brx. Yeah, because you're the RX bar.

[Andy Holloway]

That should be his Brooks license plate. That makes my autograph even easier. Have we ever told that story?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know your autograph. So we just a capital, all capital word. Brooks. That's not an autograph. Brooks.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, it is.

[Andy Holloway]

We go our live shows, we have meet and greets afterwards. People often bring whatever might be have a sign it. The photographs. And a lot of the times I would say, like the majority of the time people are like, we got to get Brooks in this picture. Because they actually get to see Brooks. And they're like, okay, sign this thing. And we all sign it. Like, you know, we're signing a grown up studio. I don't know, like an autograph. And then Brooks just writes in all capitals, Brooks, Brooks.

[Mike Wright]

Hey. I mean, it's just, it's definitely the easiest one to make out.

[Jason Moore]

It's got to be brx. Now Brooks Or I'll be real disappointed.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, fantasy forecast again. Remember yesterday's show had the Bucks, Falcons, Steelers, Bengals, Chargers, Browns, Bills, Texans, Bears, Dolphins and Cardinals, Vikings previews, fantasy matchups. So you know, if you didn't hear those today, don't get mad at us. They're there just yesterday. Yesterday. All right, a reminder. The Saints, the Lions, they're on by. Let's start with this match up here. The one and four Colts take on the two and three jets in New York. The jets are two and a half point favorites. It's a 45 point over under Jason. What's the biggest decision fantasy owners need to make in this specific matchup?

[Mike Wright]

Well, I think it starts with Andrew Luck. You know, Andrew Luck has not looked great but has at the end of the game been a pretty fine play most of these weeks. And when you are down Ty Hilton down one of your pass catching backs, Marlon Mack down one of your top targets in Jack Doyle. Can you really trust Andrew Luck now?

[Jason Moore]

Is Marlon Mack back? I mean he's practicing at full. Yeah, I think he's going to play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I do too.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I guess he could have Mac back.

[Jason Moore]

Return of the Mac.

[Mike Wright]

You know, last week it took garbage time, right, because they were down big. But are they going to be down big to the Jets? I mean I know the jets just, you know, destroyed the Broncos in new in New York, but I don't think that this is one of those games where the jets destroy the Colts. This is probably a lower scoring game and so I, you know, I don't think you're going to see the same, you know, Eric Ebron was my start of the week last week. Obviously that worked out well. He was great. I don't think you're going to see the same type of game from Ebron, from Luck. So I temper my expectations there.

[Jason Moore]

This matchup is fascinating to me I think because there's a lot of fantasy implications of things moving towards the future. You have Nahim Hines who has been the pass catcher been a lot more than that for the Colts. But now Marlon back is back. Does Marlon Mack assume the massive volume on the ground? We're not sure. The over on the jet side of the ball. Quincy and Noonwa, they're changing how they're using him. With Jermaine Curse returning to full health. That's that turned into only five targets now he got shut out but the tar that's why Quincy was so safe was the targets were there. Meanwhile, Robbie Anderson possibly had a breakout game that I this game seems like nothing is going on. There's no juicy, no juiciness for fantasy, but it's extremely interesting to me.

[Mike Wright]

I will, I will say this. The jets are probably down two of their starting secondary players. So that's a little bit more interesting when it comes to the Andrew Luck. Maybe Chester Rodgers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'll play Chester Rogers.

[Andy Holloway]

Naim Hines is the more interesting storyline. I've seen him traded in a lot of leagues. I think people are cashing in on the value. He got a lot of work last week, but that does not mean he gets it again, especially between the tackles. The passing game work might be there, but between the tackles he was pretty rough. And Jordan Wilkins was a lot better. And if Marlon Mack comes back, it doesn't help Hines. No doubt about it. If you have another competent player that the team was talking about before the season, it doesn't help him. So anything else you want to touch here? I mean we talked about Isaiah Crowell and the potential injury. Bilal Powell. Look it.

[Jason Moore]

Powell becomes a great play.

[Andy Holloway]

He does. And Isaiah Crowell, he's been a ping pong ball. I mean 22 points, 5 points, 19 points, 1 point, 30 points. Look, this is when it normally it goes back down. And if he doesn't play, certainly can't play him. So certainly Powell has double digit touches in all five games in spite of Crowell's big games. So he becomes the must start play here. If Crowell's out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, 100%.

[Jason Moore]

And if Crowell plays, do you play him? The matchup is not scary for Crowell, but dealing with the ankle, are you willing to play him as a running back three flex?

[Mike Wright]

I think running back three flex. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Most people want to.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I mean that's, that's why it's a difficult question.

[Mike Wright]

And then the only other name I would throw out, Robbie Anderson. Look, he, it's a mirage, guys. He's maxed out. Robbie Anderson has maxed out at three receptions in a game. Like that's the most he's had this year. He's done it twice.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it, I think chasing Robbie Anderson is a huge mistake. You can't. A guy who's run 15 routes in a game, you're just. I would choose like, I don't know, 60 other players to try to try to hit home runs with. I mean, I get it. He's a super. I've been the advocate of Robbie Anderson all offseason because of the pure talent of the guy.

[Mike Wright]

My only, my only.

[Andy Holloway]

But I can't. It would be pure point Chasing here.

[Jason Moore]

To me, Darnold only threw the ball 22 times. So I'm.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he did. But if you're running the ball, I'm.

[Jason Moore]

Just saying further, if the attack on Robbie, and I'm not disagreeing with you, but saying like, okay, well, he only ran 15 routes. They didn't have to throw the ball. I mean, what was he running when he was, when he, when Darnold threw the ball 41 times or 34?

[Mike Wright]

And part, part of the, part of the reason he didn't run a lot of routes is because when he ran those routes and caught the touchdown bomb, the drives over. Sure, I will. The only reason I want to bring him up is because of the Colts. I think this is a win. This is a, you can beat them deep matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. But you know, would you say that about the Browns or the Dolphins? I mean, it's very, it's. I'm just sharing with you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, no.

[Andy Holloway]

You're, you're, you're, you're playing a game here that doesn't result in a mediocre performance. You're playing a game that ends in two points. One point. Two points.

[Mike Wright]

Correct.

[Andy Holloway]

So you, you can go for the home run, but your odds of ending up with a zero are high.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. I mean, I completely agree.

[Mike Wright]

That's fair.

[Jason Moore]

The question for me is more of is Sam Darnold, has he turning a corner as a quarterback and realizing that you can actually go deep?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

I doubt it. But maybe two and three. Seahawks one and four. Raiders. Raiders are three point underdogs at home. 48 point over under home games in London. Yes, they're in London. This is true. So they're three point roadish underdogs. We know that the Seahawks are running the ball aplenty. It's hurt Russell Wilson tremendously, personally. You know, they're not winning. I mean, they're two and three. I don't know if you, I mean, you said on the show a couple days ago, you're like, it's working. It's working in respect to fantasy value for the running backs. It's working in respect to, you know, they're running the ball well. But that hasn't translated to wins necessarily. Then I think they need to put more on Russell Wilson. They need to use Doug Baldwin who practiced in full this week. Tyler Lockett's had the big plays. What are you watching for here? I mean, is this a game where because of the Raiders and their defense, which has been susceptible Both to the running back and the quarterback. Are you starting Russell Wilson here, Jason?

[Jason Moore]

I'll let you feel this one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I think Russell Wilson could be started here, that you can beat the Raiders. But I do expect this to be a. Both sides, both teams rushing the ball. Well, you know, I'm curious, do either of you know which stadium this is in? I haven't looked into that. I'm pretty sure it's in Wembley. And. Okay, so Wembley is the one with the terrible feel.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. But Evan Silva tweeted out 12 of the last 18 games in London have produced 47 or more points. So it's not stopping the scoring from pouring down.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, I. No, no, no. But I'm saying from the running game sometimes can I expect matchup wise right this to be a Marshawn lynch against Chris Carson and Mike Davis. Slow the clock down, which hurts points, but on that field.

[Jason Moore]

Speed the clock up.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, speed the clock up, slow the game down, whatever. But on that field, they might not be able to find as much success as they will airing it out with, you know, say.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyler Lockett's season. If you want to know. It's 100% my fault. I mean, he has never been this accidentally consistent. And then I traded him in our league of record before the season. I think I dropped him actually. Yes, I dropped him to swap out for something. I think I rostered two kickers for like a day or something. Stupid Tyler Lockett. And now he's here to curse me.

[Jason Moore]

He got paid and he's actually coming through. I mean, this is.

[Mike Wright]

This is outrageous.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you like Lockett or Baldwin? Head to head. Who do you start?

[Mike Wright]

I'm still starting Baldwin.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would as well.

[Andy Holloway]

On the other side of Mari Cooper, are you starting him?

[Jason Moore]

I mean, if you have to. Yeah, if you got to start him, you can start him.

[Andy Holloway]

The Seahawks are giving up 32 and a half fantasy points a game to the wide receiver position this year. Mari Cooper, Jordy Nelson, Jared Cook. Not the best matchup for Cook, but Cook's kind of an auto start right now based on his performance this year. Jason, do you have any other thoughts on this one?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, my only way in is on Cooper. I think this is a matchup that you can find success. You, you can feel free to put him in your lineup. Just make sure you do it last minute so he thinks you're on. He's on your bench.

[Andy Holloway]

It's very important.

[Jason Moore]

You gotta tried that last week, Jason. It didn't work.

[Mike Wright]

No, no. Last week we said to sit Him. It was the week prior that we said to start him. Last week it was Casey Hayward and we made Jordy Nelson the start of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

Three and one, Panthers. Two and two Redskins. I don't know what, who, where, what the Redskins are. I have no idea. They've. They've gone back and forth between looking good and terrible. Like there's no middle ground here. It's not like they're in a tight matchup. It's. They get blown out or they seem to show up.

[Mike Wright]

I feel like they're bad. I really do. I don't. I don't.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Iitans or the Redskins.

[Mike Wright]

I think the Titans are better than the Redskins. I don't think the Redskins are a good team.

[Andy Holloway]

Redskins.

[Mike Wright]

Well, they got off to such a hot start. Week one against Arizona, and I think it just kind of skewed what we believe in them. But it was Arizona.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, then they lost to the Colts, but then they came back and got a big win and then they come out of the buy and have a big loss. This game's at home, 44 and a half point over under. They're one point favorites against the Panthers.

[Jason Moore]

That's something.

[Andy Holloway]

So if you know Adrian Peterson, Chris Thompson, we said we thought they both played.

[Jason Moore]

The whole team is questionable, by the way.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, there's just not a lot of excitement around starting an offensive piece. In my opinion, the only guy I really want to start if he's healthy and active is Chris Thompson, because I feel like he is the one that's guaranteed to be utilized. If he's healthy and on the field.

[Mike Wright]

I would still be perfectly confident starting Jordan Reed. I realized he had a putrid game with one reception last week, but that's. I mean, Jordan Reed is still a better option than most of the middling, you know. Second half, the Titans, 7 through 12. I'd rather start Reed.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a lot easier on the other side of the ball. You're starting Kim Newton. Washington has given up multiple touchdowns to quarterbacks every week, except for, you know, the one where they played Sam Bradford. And then Christian McCaffrey has been amazing. I've tried to target him in a number of leagues, unsuccessfully, but I just feel like his floor is so hot. Even on a. A bad week like last week started, he had very few points through the first half of the game. Didn't matter.

[Jason Moore]

Washington's allowing nearly seven receptions a game to the running back position as well. Christian McCaffrey, you had no concerns about starting him, but he is going to be very successful this week. Meanwhile, the wide receivers for Carolina, I'm avoiding them if at all possible. Even the scrumptious one. I mean he's, I don't want to see him face up against Norman and the Washington dbs. They're holding wide receivers in check.

[Andy Holloway]

And you're definitely starting Cam in this match.

[Jason Moore]

Except for Trey Quan Smith obviously on the road. Oh, heck yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Line them up, put them out there. I, I'm surprised that they are favorites.

[Jason Moore]

I am too.

[Andy Holloway]

I would have thought. Heads up, heads up. I get it.

[Jason Moore]

I mean it's, I'm going to take Carolina to win.

[Mike Wright]

Oh yeah. I mean, I feel like the picks were in. This is a five star. Carolina's going away with the victory here.

[Andy Holloway]

Wide receivers on Carolina are like downgraded versions of the Jags wideouts. So you. Not only can you not guess who will perform on a week to week basis, but even if they do perform, it's not that good. Right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Crowder is going to have the best game. He's going to get five for 55.

[Andy Holloway]

You're talking on the Washington wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Course both sides of the ball here. You don't, you don't really want. And I will say this funches at the very end of last week got overshadowed by Graham Gano's 63 yard awesome kick. Man, I love kickers, but he pulled something and ran to the sideline and was hurt. I've been trying to find, I haven't found much news on that, but I do worry a little bit about that because it was so late in the game. So yeah, I'm avoiding all wide receivers here. Both sides.

[Andy Holloway]

The five and O Rams take on the two and three Broncos in Denver. The Broncos are seven point home underdogs. Oof. 52 and a half point over under. In a game with that kind of line, the Broncos defense has been bad. This is a changeover and I think a lot of people thought, hey, they've always had this defense that can get it done and that'll be enough. Because if you have a game manager like Case Keenum with a good defense, you're set up to succeed. The problem has been the defense has been bad and you've put Case Keenum in a position where he has to be more than a game manager. He has to be a player capable of taking you back, bringing you back, and he hasn't been capable of doing so. You really, you look at this team and you say, who are my starts here in Denver? I mean, Philip Lindsay and Royce Freeman at the end of the day, no matter how good you say one guy is, Philip Lindsay is getting plenty of work. He's been double digit carries the last few weeks. The last two weeks he's been about six a carry. Are you confident starting Royce Freeman or Philip Lindsay in this matchup against the Rams? The Rams have been.

[Jason Moore]

Lindsey.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Freeman. No.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. I think you can start Freeman in a pinch as a running back, three as a flex if you need to because he can. He's really talented. He can get a touchdown. But he scares me because of getting game scripted out. If the Rams start boat racing the Broncos, then you're going to see Philip Lindsay and Devonta Booker. And so Philip Lindsey. I am fine starting in this matchup.

[Andy Holloway]

I actually think the Broncos cover in this one. I don't think it's going to be blowout. That is, you have some question marks with Cooper Cup, Brandon Cooks and their health. We do expect them to be back out there. And look, the Broncos defense hasn't been great. They've allowed a quarterback one performance in three of their five matchups. Golf is somebody that. Look, the weapons are just there. I don't have any problem starting golf myself, but I think it's going to be a little bit closer than people expect.

[Mike Wright]

I picked the. I picked the Broncos to cover as well. So I don't think it's going to be a boat race, but I. Obviously, anytime you're playing against the Rams, it could be.

[Andy Holloway]

Where does that expression come from?

[Mike Wright]

Boat.

[Jason Moore]

A boat race?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just like. Brooks, do you have any insights here?

[Mike Wright]

No clue.

[Jason Moore]

It's factual information that boat races are very uneven all the time.

[Andy Holloway]

Really? No. They're never close?

[Jason Moore]

No, never.

[Andy Holloway]

So when you boat race, it's always.

[Jason Moore]

Because it's always a speedboat versus a pontoon boat.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Really.

[Mike Wright]

The pontoon just takes it every time.

[Jason Moore]

The boat racing community is really not one you want to be a part of.

[Andy Holloway]

They make you.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

So what happens is you don't actually own the boats. Two drivers get up there and you flip a coin. One of you gets the speedboat, one of you gets the pontoon boat.

[Jason Moore]

Pirate ship versus yacht. I mean, this is just how.

[Andy Holloway]

This is how. Wow.

[Jason Moore]

I'm on Wikipedia right now.

[Mike Wright]

Also, you know, one of the reasons I think the Broncos could be a little bit safer here if you're playing Emmanuel Sanders or Demarys Thomas, even Cortland Sutton, Marcus Peters. So the Rams were looking like an unbelievable defense until that Week where Marcus Peters and Akeem Talib went down. Now Akib Talib is out. He went to ir. Marcus Peters was back the next week. Surprisingly, everyone thought he was going to miss like a month. He should have, right? And maybe he still has missed a month. This was a tweet from Jeff Ratcliffe. Marcus Peters, last three weeks he's been targeted 17 times. Of those 17 targets, he's given up 14 receptions for 255 yards, five touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's not been good. It's not been good. And because of that, I'm, I'm okay playing Thomas, coming off of the big game. And Emmanuel Sanders is also he.

[Mike Wright]

You.

[Jason Moore]

Jason, do you still play Emmanuel Sanders every week?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. He's a weekly starter to me right now for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

In a sporting event, the team getting out to an early lead and coasting home. Some synonyms to boat racing. Ready? Blowout, cakewalk, domination and beat down.

[Jason Moore]

It's not Titanic related.

[Andy Holloway]

Cakewalk is what I would associate with like if you see Jason's league of record team on your schedule.

[Mike Wright]

Oh my gosh. Freaking turds.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going to take a walk and eat some cake.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I feel like that's one of those ones you have to keep drilling down. Okay, what's a boat race? Oh, boat race is a cakewalk.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, well, what's a cakewalk playing Jason's team then?

[Mike Wright]

That's where we all finish.

[Andy Holloway]

Anything else in this matchup right now?

[Mike Wright]

No, I don't think so.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to move on. 3 and 2 Jags take on the 2 and 3 Cowboys in Dallas. The Cowboys a three point home dogs a 40 and a half point over under in this one says not a lot of points on the board. Potentially. Look, the. The Russian roulette of Keelan Cole, Dante Moncrief and D.D. westbrook. It's kind of crazy, right? Because all these guys are talented. All these guys have ability. Dee Dee Westbrook. Do you realize he's on pace for 80 receptions and over 1100 yards?

[Mike Wright]

Wow.

[Andy Holloway]

On the season.

[Jason Moore]

Good.

[Andy Holloway]

So when you hear that, when you hear that, don't you say that's an every week start type of player?

[Jason Moore]

Mm.

[Andy Holloway]

So why are you not starting DD Westbrook?

[Mike Wright]

Because it comes in bunches.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's.

[Mike Wright]

I mean it's not. I don't feel like it's consistent.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, well, let me read you his stat lines.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. And mind you, you're not wrong because he's the 33rd ranked whiteout, so that pace doesn't seem to matter.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's had two big weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Seven. Yeah. I mean, five for 51, four for 82 and a touchdown. Three for 31, nine for 100, 30, three for 55.

[Jason Moore]

It's the lack of touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

Well, not just.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, no, you're right. That's what it is. For a fantasy perspective, if your receiver.

[Jason Moore]

Came through with 5 for 51 and a score, be like, yeah, that's a great week.

[Mike Wright]

Two of the last three weeks, he's had three receptions for 31 yards and three for 55. That's not good.

[Andy Holloway]

But if he had scored on either of those weeks, you'd be thinking differently about him. Like on the season, he may be on pace for 80 and 1100 and 3. And then all of a sudden you're like, I might have a better option.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. This is a game where you have two good defense. I actually think that Dallas, this is.

[Jason Moore]

My almost upset of the week.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't disagree.

[Mike Wright]

So Dallas, I think it'll be close. Has impressed me. I think that they are. They're a legit defense, obviously. Jacksonville's defense is one of, if not the best in the league. And you have two struggling quarterbacks. You know, you've got Blake Bortles and Dak Prescott. They can, they can get it done with their legs. They do enough to be fantasy relevant.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, Dak does.

[Mike Wright]

They're not great.

[Andy Holloway]

Dak definitely doesn't. Dak is one of the worst fantasy quarterbacks in the league. He's sitting there at 25th on the league, averaging 16 points a game. I looked at him earlier this week specifically, like, hey, I need a streamer in listener league.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And then I saw Dak Prescott and then I said, ew.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, my, my point in all this is I don't really want anyone in this game that's not a running back because I think because there's two good defenses with two mediocre quarterbacks. What. What's going to happen in this game? Like, who's going to really explode? I don't see it happening.

[Andy Holloway]

T.J. eldon, Ezekiel Elliott and move on.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Andy Holloway]

And next match up for the rundown, Jacksonville targets. If you are playing roulette, Moncrie, this is the last through five weeks. Moncrief 37, Keelan Cole 34, Dede Westbrook 33, TG Eldon 32. And that's why it's hard to. To pick them.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Now you've got Niles Paul as the tight end option there. Okay. If you need a deep streamer.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think he's a flyer.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Three and two Ravens take on the three and two Titans. Titans are two and a half point underdogs at home. This is a 41 point over under. The Ravens just lost to the Browns last week. I think they win this game. And my question to you is, can you trust Alex Collins in this matchup against the Tennessee Titans? The Titans defense has been good. I mean they're only giving up 14.7 fantasy points per game to the running back position, but they give up yardage. So what are you doing with Alex Collins? He seems like one of the hardest players to own right now.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he is. And this isn't a matchup that I want. It's not a great matchup from the standpoint of they've been good against the running back. It's also not a good matchup in this from the standpoint of it's probably going to be a lower scoring game. So Alex Collins, who, yes, he's had double digit, but right at the double digit, 12 carries, 11 carries the last two weeks, it's just going to be a mediocre. You can put him in there and he might get you 10 fantasy points and sometimes that's exactly what you need for that third running back or flex option on your team. But for instance, I would rather play Philip Lindsay than Alex Collins.

[Jason Moore]

That's kind of Alex Collins or Bilal Powell.

[Mike Wright]

Powell especially obviously if Crowell is out.

[Jason Moore]

Alex Collins or Austin Eckler. Alex Collins, okay, there's your line is still there.

[Andy Holloway]

What about Austin Eckler is, I'm assuming, outscored him in every single week?

[Jason Moore]

I assume so.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm pretty sure that's where it's like you're still leaning on the volume because you don't want the zero. That's kind of the thought process there.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, Alex Collins has been okay in a half point scoring format. You look at the last several weeks, 11 points, 16 points, 10 points, 8.3. It's. It's certainly not what you're hoping for, but he has not been a bust.

[Jason Moore]

Collins or Lamar Miller.

[Mike Wright]

I would go Collins.

[Andy Holloway]

In leagues where they give a bonus for being Alex Collins, he's actually performed.

[Mike Wright]

He's exceptionally. He's been outstanding.

[Andy Holloway]

Above average. John Brown, can you start him in this matchup against the Titans defense? I'm really on the fence with John Brown. Help me make a decision in my league of record here. I'm staring down John Brown, Philip Lindsay, who we just talked about.

[Jason Moore]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Or Corey Davis in this matchup. Right. Corey Davis has Had one really good start and really he hasn't been that good from a fantasy production standpoint. Even though the targets have been there and he's the number one guy, the Titans offense has been inconsistent and because of that, Davis has the one blow up game. So what do you do?

[Jason Moore]

For me, I would rather play John Brown over Corey Davis.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. That's where I'm at.

[Jason Moore]

I'm not messing around with the Ravens defense with Jimmy Smith back. So you're looking at John Brown or Philip Lindsay.

[Andy Holloway]

John Brown had 14 targets last week. 14. He only caught four of them.

[Mike Wright]

That's pretty bad.

[Andy Holloway]

But they were downfield targets. Obviously. He's getting every opportunity. He's obviously Joe Flacco's favorite friend. So you're my favorite friend. My favorite friend, John. But I mean the 14 targets is what's drawing me towards John Brown over Philip Lindsay.

[Mike Wright]

Eileen.

[Jason Moore]

John Brown.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Well, I mean, you didn't stray me wrong last week. I went Galladay over about five of these guys and it worked out.

[Jason Moore]

Are you still playing Buck Allen, Jason?

[Andy Holloway]

I've seen him in a lot of lineups.

[Mike Wright]

You know, I see Buck Allen as. Everything I said about Alex Collins is true about Buck Allen. And I would rather start Alex Collins over Buck Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you buy into any of the Hayden Hurst type?

[Mike Wright]

That's the triple H. No, I love it. I hope it happens. I mean, I was. He was my second favorite tight end coming into this draft behind Dallas Goddard. But there's too many, too many different tight ends to target there. I hope he breaks out. I'm not picking him up. I'm not making a hopeful stash.

[Andy Holloway]

Does he hurt John Brown?

[Mike Wright]

Michael Crabtree, he could hurt Crabtree. I don't think he hurts John Brown because he's not really the field stretcher. The air yards are what has been so impressive with John Brown. That's, that's, that's not what Hayden Hurst is really going to get. I mean, since week two, the number two person in the league in air yards. Nuke Hopkins has 736 air yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

John Brown is number one with 824.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, just run him deep and let Flacco check it out exactly 14 times for four catches. Okay. Yeah. I feel like I missed something with Hayden Hurst because while I liked what I saw in the preseason, the fact that you have Williams, Andrews and Boyle, I'm just like, I don't understand why you would lock into him to the degree you could start Hayden Hurst.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

No, you're not starting.

[Andy Holloway]

And what About Dion Lewis, Derek Henry.

[Jason Moore]

That'S where I was going to go. Any, anyone from the Titans. Lewis is the only player I'm interested in playing and my interest is not very strong.

[Mike Wright]

No. I would much rather start Alex Collins than Lewis here.

[Andy Holloway]

Remember Malcolm Butler?

[Jason Moore]

I do, I do, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Super Bowl, super bowl hero.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Just not this.

[Andy Holloway]

Last year he's allowed 405 yards including four touchdowns. That's the most yards allowed by a cornerback in football. And he's the 81st ranked cornerback according to Pro Football Focus.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe there was a reason he didn't play in the Super Bowl.

[Andy Holloway]

I say maybe there's a reason the Patriots didn't want to pay him. My goodness, the flay, the fluctuation for some of these. You talked about Casey Hayward yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Some of these Marcus Peters has been trash.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I brought this up with Mike while you were gone, Andy, is that you got us with cornerbacks. They come on strong quick and a lot of times they leave quick. So I try to pay attention to the ones that are the new hotness rather than just, oh, this guy's, you know, if you start to lose it at cornerback, it seems to fall off the line.

[Andy Holloway]

And that's why, and I realized last week he had a good performance. But that's why I don't, I don't agree with Mike's. Joe Hayden takes from yesterday's because Joe Hayden, his best days are definitely behind him. He's not a bad corner anymore, but he's not a. He's not a world beater.

[Mike Wright]

Agreed.

[Andy Holloway]

So the Chiefs at 5 and O take on the 3 and 2 Patriots. Who's excited for this one?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

Patriots are three and a half point home favorites.

[Jason Moore]

NBC is very excited. Look, they're the most excited out of anybody.

[Andy Holloway]

59 and a half point over, under I took. Is that the highest on the year?

[Mike Wright]

That is without a doubt the highest on the year. And I took the over.

[Andy Holloway]

You took the over. Now Patrick Mahomes, for all of his wonder and awe, has one touchdown pass in the past two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

What a loser.

[Andy Holloway]

Now he's ranked according to the consensus that I've seen as the number one quarterback on the week. I've seen Brady at two and I think I agree with that. But Brady at home, does he deserve more credit? Like if you're facing. If you had to choose between these two, would you rather have Brady at home or would you rather have Mahomes?

[Mike Wright]

I would rather have what my rankings say, which is Brady.

[Jason Moore]

I would rather have Brady.

[Mike Wright]

I've got Mahomes as my number three quarterback on the week. And yeah, this game's going to be great, but I mean this is, this is, oh, I can't wait for this game. But to have Bill Belichick scheming against Mahomes and I think, I think there's going to be some mistakes made, but both teams will be able to score without. Without a doubt.

[Andy Holloway]

The Chiefs have allowed the most attempts per game this year. The most 20 plus yard completions in the league. They showed up a little bit last week. We expected more from the borderling, but this is Tom Brady and he's got James White and he's got Julian Edelman. He's got Josh Gordon, he's got Chris Hogan, he's got Rob Gronkowski. Light them all up, right? I mean, you're starting Chris Hogan. Are you starting Gordon?

[Jason Moore]

I. As if you're desperate. Josh Gordon is still not to the.

[Andy Holloway]

Point where it's the snap counts that you're concerned about.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Gordon, I would start him this week. This is. If you can't start him against the Chiefs when there's going to be 100 freaking points put up in this game. How he doesn't get free for one of these necessary bombs. I'm not saying he's a must start. He's not like, take a quality player out of your lineup. But when you're deciding, as most people, Josh Gordon are always deciding, okay, do I do this, you know, shot this guy, this middling tier, who should I flex? This is the week where I'm taking the shot on Josh Gordon.

[Andy Holloway]

And is there any question marks on the other side of the ball at all? I mean, Sammy Watkins, if this game's got an over under like that, are you okay starting him?

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you start all the, all the players, all the main guys. I'm not starting Chris Connolly, but Travis Kelsey, Tyree, Kill Cream Hunt.

[Andy Holloway]

Kareem Hunt's been very good lately and.

[Mike Wright]

Not only has he been good, but you know what we haven't had this season? He hasn't been. Andy read it. His carry.

[Jason Moore]

Well, he was. Oh, oh, I see what you're saying.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Where he just vanishes where all of.

[Mike Wright]

A sudden he gets six carries in a game. This is his carry count on the season. And this is my favorite thing about Cream Hunt. Let me read them off. 16, 18, 18, 19, 22. I mean that, that's the dream is you want a running back getting over 15 carries a game. Fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

I'd like the targets to go up, but hard to hard to argue with that volume.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. On Monday Night Football, by the way, last week, 26% was the snap count for Josh Gordon. So you can compare that Robbie Anderson last week because those maybe you look at them similar. 52% snap count for Robbie Anderson.

[Mike Wright]

That's a perfect comp. I would rather play Josh Gordon over Robbie Anderson.

[Andy Holloway]

I think we see more upside to the long term. Josh Gordon, better quarterback, better opportunity for him to, you know, have a big play against that defense. The one in four 49ers playing Monday Night Football against the two two and one Packers. Packers are nine and a half point Lambo favorites here at a 46 point. 46 and a half point over under. We don't expect Matt Breida to play. There was a report yesterday that he was not limping, that he, he looked pretty good and that this, you know, not a high ankle sprain. But if he's out is Alfred Morris. Would you rather play Alfred Morris or Alex Collins this week?

[Mike Wright]

Alfred Morris, if Breida is out, I would rather have agreed. You know, the guy that's not splitting work. And I don't think that the packers are incredible against the run. They're top third, but they're not. You know, when it comes to matchups, you really only need to look at the extremes. Right. Like who are the top five defenses against the position when you're in that 9 to 22 range, they're all so close together.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and you're only in week six, so those numbers are going to fluctuate a little bit more. I think you can make a more definitive determination when they're at the extremes. At least right now in the season. I agree with that. Are you thinking about outside of George Kittle? Because if you have Kittle, you're starting Kittle. Yes, he's been great start of the week. But outside of him, you're not really looking at any other 49er here besides Morris and Kittle.

[Jason Moore]

Morris. And if you're desperate and you're in a ppr, I do think you can put Kyle Uschick in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we guess we've talked about that.

[Jason Moore]

I think he will get enough passing word breed out.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

What if Breida is a surprise active and you and you rostered. Let's see a lot of people rostering Breeda and Morris, right? All right. You're staring them down like Clement and Smallwood from last night. So if you're staring them down and you've got an active Matt Breed, are you starting him over Morris?

[Mike Wright]

No, I'M starting Alex Collins over both of those guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you won't get choice on Monday. You won't get that choice on Monday night. That's my point is you're walking into Monday night Football.

[Jason Moore]

What is that answer?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

If you play Breeder Morse, I'll play Collins. Alex Collins, I'll eat a banana.

[Mike Wright]

Alex Collins has been our barometer test of this show.

[Andy Holloway]

But it's a terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible answer because I just asked you if you're starting Morris or Collins. You sit in Morris.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a Monday night game. You do not get to go back in time and start Collins. If you have Morris and Breida.

[Jason Moore]

If Mike by Sunday start, I'd play Morris.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

If by Sunday there are legitimate rumors that it looks like maybe Matt Breida is going to be there, I would plug Alex Collins in my lineup as opposed to hoping for Alfred Morris by himself.

[Andy Holloway]

And per chance, you're sitting there on Monday and you have to decide between Morris or Breida.

[Mike Wright]

Alex Collins.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, thanks. All right. The packers have a trifecta of annoying running back options. Aaron Jones, who, by the way, I don't know if you guys had read this, observed this. Aaron Jones is grading far better than Jamal Williams in pass protection this year.

[Jason Moore]

Is he?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. And so all of the. Jamal Williams needs to be out there for pass protection. All of the, you know, the head coaches lack of willingness to give Aaron Jones enough snaps, enough work to make him fantasy dominant. They're going up in smoke, at least by a pro football focus. Pass grade, pass protection grade. Can you start any of these guys? I mean, the matchup is glorious. This is a home matchup where your heavy favorites running the football should be part of the equation here.

[Mike Wright]

Because of the matchup, I think you could start Aaron Jones, but I would not want to because if it turns out that Jamal Williams has twice as many carries, I don't think anyone would be surprised. So I would prefer to not start any of these running backs, but in a pinch, Aaron Jones could suffice.

[Andy Holloway]

Aaron Jones or Alex Collins.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Great. Matt Burrida. 100%. Matt Burrita. No, it would be Alex Collins for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

For sure. Okay. Devonte Adams.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I mean, locked in. I don't care if he's injured like last week. Whatever. He's. He's fantastic.

[Jason Moore]

He's a fantasy monster.

[Mike Wright]

Jimmy Graham, you're obviously starting him. The real question comes with who is that wide receiver to.

[Andy Holloway]

I think my approach to this team would be if you have Adams you start Adams and then if you have any of the other guys, I'm probably not playing the Monday night roulette with them. I understand. You know, Allison is kind of the one that, I think if you think he's active, maybe you're, you're saving a spot for him. But I think most teams have options. I mean, yeah, they're probably not going to start. You're not going to start Cobb, not going to start Valdez, Gantling, I had.

[Mike Wright]

So, you know, I've got a situation in deeper league where I've got both Geronimo and I picked up Marquez Valdez.

[Jason Moore]

Then you're covered.

[Andy Holloway]

You're covered.

[Mike Wright]

And I'm playing one of those two guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's fine.

[Jason Moore]

For example, in the league of record, I have Geronimo. And your, your point about the Monday night scenario for the Green Bay packers, it does make it a lot trickier to rely on Geronimo because if you get into Monday night and I don't have a backup and Geronimo is out, you mean, that's, that's a terrible, terrible feeling. So if you can avoid Geronimo and you're not like Jason, where you have both Geronimo and Scantling, would you be.

[Mike Wright]

Willing to cut Alex Collins? Would you be willing to cut a decent but, you know, cuttable wide receiver to pick up a Valdez scantling so that you can make the choice there?

[Andy Holloway]

I. Not me, not. Not with the fact that, I mean, Valdez scaling, yes, he scored, but he wasn't a target monster or anything. He's not guaranteed production. I love the packers defense in this game and one of the things I really regret is I normally try to grab a defense ahead of time if I don't have a lot of fab. I had the Packers, I had to let them go. They got somebody paid $4 a fab. So I didn't get them back.

[Jason Moore]

So he did have 10 targets.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he had seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Didn't he have two receptions?

[Mike Wright]

Seven, 68 yards?

[Jason Moore]

You're thinking of EQ.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I was, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, Scantling was, was very involved. Had the score, almost had two.

[Andy Holloway]

But they were in a much different game script.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Than we project in this game. All right, well, without further ado, we'll move on.

[Mike Wright]

The Daily Dose brought to you by draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Right. To close out the show, we are doing a head to head to head Daily Dose. A draft. We do it every Friday and Jason's got the first pick. We're doing QB only this week and Jason has already jumped on the board. He grabbed Tom Brady.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. When you've got a. I mean, we know who is going now. I mean, you've got a game that has so many points that are going to be scored. You want in on that matchup. I was worried that I was going to have the third pick because I want one of those two guys.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, you went Tom Brady. I went. I took Patrick Mahomes.

[Andy Holloway]

Understandable. I went with Rogers and Matt Ryan, I think, look, you got great matchups, got great situations. So Mike's back on the clock.

[Jason Moore]

That means I'm taking really, Jared Garf.

[Mike Wright]

Jared Garf. Okay.

[Jason Moore]

People have no idea what we're talking about.

[Mike Wright]

You need to go to Twitter because we're going to post a video from our foot cast. I'm actually bypassing my highest ranked desean Watson. I'm going to go with huge ceilings of Winston and Cam Newton back to back. Desean Watson's, you know, great. He runs so much that, you know, the floor is high. But I want those huge games to beat you guys because let's be honest, I've only lost one week so far.

[Jason Moore]

You've had quite the impressive record.

[Mike Wright]

Not in league of record, but in draft.

[Jason Moore]

And then I followed it up with big Ben Roethlisberger playing against the Bengals. High over under. I'm chasing.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I. And I'm going with DeSean Watson. You guys passed on him. And then Andy Dalton. The other side of that matchup against Pittsburgh, I expect.

[Mike Wright]

Dang it.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, that's just a great match up there. And then Kirk Cousins still on the board. Mike grabbed him.

[Jason Moore]

You're darn right I did.

[Mike Wright]

That was the guy I wanted. I wanted Kirk. I'm going to take the overseas Russell Wilson and put Andrew Luck along with him. I'm going with the names and then.

[Jason Moore]

I will go with Philip Rivers to close out my team against the Cleveland Browns. Rivers has been incredibly solid this year.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want any of these other guys.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I know.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want Alex Smith. I don't want Blake Bortles. I'll take Derek Carr. This secondary in Seattle is. And car's been just a yardage monster, so I'll take him. And so my team, Rogers, Ryan Watson, Dalton, Carr.

[Mike Wright]

I've got Brady, Jameis Winston, Cam Newton. Booty scoot, Cam Newton.

[Andy Holloway]

This is where you look at me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Who else you got?

[Mike Wright]

Jay, Russell Wilson and Andrew Locke.

[Jason Moore]

I got Rivers, Cousins, Ben Roethlisberger, Patrick Mahomes and Jared Garved.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys lost or Jason won last week. Mike lost again last week.

[Jason Moore]

Shut your mouth.

[Andy Holloway]

So very nice. You guys have any other thoughts for today's show outside of obviously starting Alex Collins on Monday night somehow?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would look to start Alex Collins on Monday night.

[Andy Holloway]

Good. Now you. You have Alex Collins, and just to be clear, you played Corey Clement over him last night, is that correct?

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Well, Alex Collins is currently in my flex.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, is he?

[Mike Wright]

He was. Corey Clement was a Thursday night football player, so, you know, I took him out of my flex, put him in my running back spot.

[Andy Holloway]

Nice work.

[Jason Moore]

And quick reminder, Foot Clan, if you could head over to FootClan, vote.com and nominate us for the Discover Podcast Awards, we would. We'd be appreciative.

[Mike Wright]

You can nominate the Fantasy Footballers and the Spitballers Podcast.

[Jason Moore]

You absolutely can.

[Andy Holloway]

Without further comment commentary.

[Jason Moore]

Further ado, we shall close the show.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, see everybody.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, check out draft.com spoilers if you want to play with us.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

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