Week 6 Studs & Duds + Injury Depression, Monday Punday - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/13

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast: Week 6 Studs & Duds + Injury Depression, Monday Punday (10/13/2025)

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode sees Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike “The Fantasy Hitman” Wright navigating through the carnage of a brutal Week 6 filled with high-profile injuries, dud performances, and the chaos of fantasy football variance. The trio breaks down the most impactful studs and duds, provides insight on roster construction and strategic trading around injuries, serves up the usual dose of entertainment with “Monday Punday,” and drops actionable news and waiver-wire insights. The tone is equal parts commiseration, humor, and classic Fantasy Footballers sharp analysis.

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Episode Highlights & Key Discussions

1. The Injury Gauntlet – Impact and Emotional Lows

• Opening Lamentation (01:57–04:42):
  • The podcasters bemoan the staggering number of fantasy-relevant injuries in Week 6.
  • Notable absentees include Puka Nacua (“Puke Nacua”), Emeka Egbuka, Marvin Harrison Jr., and others, with particularly “emotionally devastating” injuries (03:09).
  • "It felt like every year it was like climbing into a dryer and hitting tumble and then coming out the other side going, what happened?" — Andy Holloway [02:43].
• Roster destruction is especially hard in deep and keeper leagues, where injury timing and depth are critical.
• Andy emphasizes patience with trades, noting that a team built in Week 6 can look very different by the playoffs (06:54).

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2. Fantasy Chaos: Stud Teams Flopping, Median and Matchup Mayhem

• Personal League (04:42–06:54):
  • Jason and Josh’s “super teams” scored shockingly low in their league of record, highlighting the variance and unpredictability of fantasy.
  • Example: Jason lists a string of duds who eked out a win only because his opponent fared even worse.
  • “Some of these stars... Bo Nix, Cortland Sutton, Garrett Wilson, Juwan Johnson, Zay Flowers... Five guys for about 25 points or so.” — Jason Moore [05:03].
• The moral: stay adaptive, especially in keeper/dynasty leagues where draft pick trading ramps up risks.

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3. Week 6's Atrocious Football – International Games and Jets Woes

• London Game Debacle (07:32–09:41):
  • Mike vents frustration with London games leading to “disgusting” offense.
  • The Jets get roasted for their nine sacks allowed and net negative passing, calling it the worst coaching/QB performance observed.
  • “I'm calling a game with no forward passes.” — Andy referencing Kurt Warner [08:17].
  • “He had net negative 10 yards... He lost more yards on sacks than he even completed in total.” — Andy Holloway [09:11].
  • Fantasy relevance: Major letdowns for key players like Garrett Wilson and Breece Hall.

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4. Monday Punday: Wordplay Review of the Week's Best and Worst

• Segment (10:08–11:30):
  • Highlights: “Wham, bam, thank you, Cam” (Cam Scadaboo); “Rico Bellcowdle”; “Bourne Supremacy” (Kendrick Bourne).
  • Duds: “Quinshon Dodkins”, “Cortland Nothing”, “Puke Nakua” [11:15].
  • Serves as lighthearted comic relief amid an injury-ravaged week.

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5. Coping With Fantasy Misfortune

• Fantasy Perspective (11:30–12:10):
  • Jason and Andy remind listeners: If you had a great week, savor it! In weeks like these, luck and variance play massive roles.
  • “It was skill that got you the dub. It was bad luck that got you the L. Always true.” — Andy Holloway [11:51].

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6. News & Injury Roundup – Running Backs and Quarterbacks in Flux

• Breaking News (12:25–20:22):
  • Miles Sanders: Placed on season-ending IR, opening the door for Jaden Blue as a waiver target [12:32].
  • Kyler Murray: Dealing with mid-foot sprain. Unlikely to return Week 7 with a Bye looming Week 8.
  • Emeka Egbuka/M. Harrison Jr.: Both left games (hamstring, concussion).
  • Other Hits: Anthony Richardson (orbital fracture from resistance band!), Darnell Mooney OUT, debatable status for Debo Samuel.
  • “It’s just a horrific...miserable, awful week where you just have to try to survive.” — Andy Holloway [05:34].
• Rookie RB Spotlight: Kamani Vidal emerges ahead of Hassan Haskins, nullifying prior beat reports [27:06].

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7. Studs of Week 6 (22:12–40:08)

Quarterbacks:

• Patrick Mahomes: Back atop the rankings, answers doubters with huge week (31.3 PPG) [23:05].
• Drake May, Jackson Dart, Daniel Jones, Dak Prescott: Fill out the top 5, with slander for Dallas' defense providing delight (24:08).

Running Backs:

• Rico Dowdle: Dominates; “He is running like a bat out of hell...his tail's on fire.” — Andy Holloway [24:48].
• Cam Scadaboo, Josh Jacobs, Devon Achane, Jonathan Taylor: Also headline, while Saquon Barkley lags behind Rico in yardage (27:32).
• Waiver & Trade Candidates: Kamani Vidal, Ashton Gentry (Boise State's workhorse).

Wide Receivers:

• George Pickens: “Absolute money-making scheme… He is going to get $100 million.” — Andy Holloway [30:44].
• JSN (Jaxon Smith-Njigba): Enjoys huge target share (54%!) amid a WR1-type breakout (32:02).
• Jamar Chase: Sports a highlight-reel “give me that” TD among his 10-94-1 line [34:22].
• Lad McConkey, Brian Thomas Jr., Jameson Williams: Sigh-of-relief performances.

Tight Ends:

• Dallas Goedert, Tyler Warren, Trey McBride, Sam LaPorta: Welcome returns atop the position—a “better week for tight ends” [37:50].
• Tyler Warren: “Very well might finish this season as the number one target for his team.” — Mike Wright [39:10].

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8. Duds: Painful Lessons and Harsh Realities (42:02–58:27)

Quarterbacks:

• Justin Fields: “Put a blindfold on and took a crap in the backfield... statistically the worst performance.” — Andy Holloway [45:12].
• Matthew Stafford, Jordan Love, Bo Nix: Major letdowns, particularly in anticipated good matchups.

Running Backs:

• Saquon Barkley, Quinshon Judkins, Javonte Williams: Underwhelming workloads.
• Ken Walker, Zach Charbonnet: Charbonnet outsnaps Walker 60% to 35%—Seattle's RB situation devolves into chaos [51:07].
• Ramondre Stevenson: Snap count strong, production absolutely not. “I broke my own ice… deserved every bit of the wheel of shame.” — Andy Holloway [52:11].
• Breece Hall: 22 carries/no targets, muted by Jets’ shaky offense.

Wide Receivers:

• Cortland Sutton, Michael Pittman Jr., Davante Adams: Disappear in great matchups.
• Keenan Allen: Ominous third down week, concern for “old man fade” starting [35:46].
• Garrett Wilson: Three catches for 13 yards; situation compounded by Jets' dysfunction.

Tight Ends:

• Juwan Johnson, Isaiah Likely: Non-factors with alternatives back.

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9. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Variance: “Sometimes weeks are wild. You just have to try to survive.” — Andy Holloway [05:40]
• On Injuries: "There are injuries that are devastating for your fantasy teams, and then there are ones that are emotionally devastating." — Andy Holloway [02:59]
• On Studs: “If you had a great fantasy week, feel it, take that in, let it be a positive light.” — Jason Moore [11:34]
• On Ken Walker vs. Charbonnet: “They don't know what they're doing as far as with these two backs.” — Mike Wright [51:31]
• On Justin Fields: “He should be a running back. He would be so good.” — Mike Wright [46:05]
• On Streaming QBs in London Games: “Should we be a little bit more concerned... of just like the chance that these teams are...” — Mike Wright [47:19]
• On Waiver Wire Urgency: “There's a lot of question marks. Hopefully more information around some of these injuries and how long they're going to be out.” — Andy Holloway [59:41]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:57 – Injury carnage & medical tent Halloween talk
• 04:42 – Super Team failures; league of record chaos
• 07:32 – London game rant & Jets disaster
• 10:08 – Monday Punday wordplay
• 12:25 – News & Notes: injuries, IR moves, RB shifts
• 22:12 – Studs: QB/RB/WR/TE leaders and breakdowns
• 42:02 – Duds: Players who torpedoed lineups
• 59:36 – Waiver wire preview for the next show

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Conclusion & Waiver Wire Preview

The week was a gauntlet of injury chaos, disappointment for top teams, but also breakout performances and must-watch waiver-wire developments. The hosts urge everyone to stay active, manage byes/injuries wisely, and prepare for a pivotal waiver wire episode coming next.

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Overall Tone

Unabashedly humorous, candid, and empathetic. The Fantasy Footballers balance misery with their signature optimism and playful banter, making this a must-listen for anyone caught in the Week 6 crossfire.

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[End of Summary]

Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, what happened?

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, stub my toe. Oh, my knee.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, mama.

[Andy Holloway]

Monday, October 13th. Welcome into the Fantasy Footballers. I think this was about the time of the year. Last year I became inspired to dress up as a blue medical tent for Halloween. And it would be appropriate again. It would be appropriate again. What a painful weekend of football.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. A lot more significant, important injuries this week than the usual.

[Jason Moore]

We always. There's always one. There's always one or two weeks every year where you exit Sunday and you go, what? What happened? Like, how could it possibly hit all the star players?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it felt like every year it was like climbing into a dryer and hitting tumble and then coming out the other side going, what happened if your name ended in an uka? I'm sorry.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

There are injuries that are devastating for your fantasy teams and then there are ones that are emotionally devastating. Egbuka's injury. Come on, man.

[Mike Wright]

That was all you had left was your loss.

[Andy Holloway]

That was all I had left in the world. And I'm buying a book of cards.

[Mike Wright]

All weekend it's been taken from you.

[Andy Holloway]

And then Puka Obviously. And then there were a ton of. I mean, we get into studs and duds today, but there were so many, like, underwhelming performances and disappointments.

[Mike Wright]

And here's the best example of how wild and wacky fantasy can be. And sometimes these weeks are bad. In our league of record, there are two teams that are nine and one. We play against median. So you get two point, you know.

[Jason Moore]

Also known as the number one and number two scoring teams.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, of course, the highest scoring teams. You guys are dominant and we're in a.

[Andy Holloway]

This is the most important thing you could be talking about today.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just pointing out dominators. These two teams, which one of them is mine? One of them is Josh. We didn't like, squeak through.

[Mike Wright]

No, you guys are, you guys are super teams.

[Andy Holloway]

This is a 9 and 1. That should be 10 and. Oh, really?

[Mike Wright]

Both of them? We are. Our league of record is a keeper league. So it's not just, oh, you guys drafted well, it's. You two came in this year having, you know, sold a little bit last year, accumulated extra draft picks. So there's, there's a wider gulf of disparity in keeper leagues and you guys are at the top. You are presumed 1A and 1B like the super teams that, you know, I'm going to have to try to beat this year. And I know that the road goes through you guys. Well, your matchup, your matchup this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Comfort yourself with these.

[Mike Wright]

This data, folks, is to win in our league, you usually put up about 135 points in our scoring system right now. Mike, you have 72 points. Your super team has 72.

[Jason Moore]

Hold on. I still got one player, though.

[Mike Wright]

You got a player left.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you're, you're, you're probably going to lose by a lot then.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Because I had my Sunday started with.

[Andy Holloway]

Bo Nicks, some of these stars.

[Jason Moore]

Bo Nix, Cortland Sutton, Garrett Wilson, Juwan Johnson, Zay Flowers. I had that combo.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Zay Flowers, which is that about.

[Andy Holloway]

Five guys for about, about 25 points or so.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, those are just duds. Duds, Duds, Duds. And you're going to win. You're going to win because Papa Josh is sitting at 62 points right now and he had Judkins, Javante Puka and Kenneth Walker.

[Jason Moore]

Just Henderson.

[Mike Wright]

It's, it's really crazy. Um, sometimes weeks are wild.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's. I walked away from this weekend just going like. Well, we always say like the beginning of the season, a team can look like a super team. And then it changes quickly. Right. We. This is why we say stay, kind of stay active. Because teams, you know, an injury like Puka goes down, that's going to mess up. I mean, messed up four or five of my teams. I mean, I lost everywhere this weekend. I lost everywhere and I lost players everywhere. It was just a horrific. I'm going to survive in our cut league. I thought inevitably I would also be chopped. I think I'll survive. Maybe not, but probably. But it was just one of those miserable, awful weeks where, you know, you just have to try to survive. But to the rest of the point, I was going to say it's just like, you know, you need to try to wait a little bit on trade sometimes as well, because it's like if you accumulate early injuries, really disrupt the way the final part of the season is going to go. Obviously you need to adjust and make trades all the time. I'm just thinking, like, if you want to make that stretch run, that might mean pushing right up to the trade deadline sometimes to see who has the clearest path and the healthiest players. And because you can build a super team today in week six, week five.

[Jason Moore]

And a half, you still need.

[Andy Holloway]

And it's not going to be that in week 11.

[Jason Moore]

You still need to have depth. And then as your trade deadline and you're really make like that's when you can consolidate into, you know, really turning in two spots into one great player.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, Papa Josh is like, so you mean we shouldn't have traded every draft pick we have already? I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

And I mean normal.

[Jason Moore]

I just know that you got absolutely dismantled.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Which.

[Andy Holloway]

What happened on Thursday? Mike, you had such. Wasn't it Thursday that you had terrible games and you thought the week was already over?

[Mike Wright]

No, no, it was Sunday. Sunday morning. It was the London game.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, London. That's what it was.

[Mike Wright]

Stupid freaking international games with disgusting game of football that. Oh, yeah, don't make us wake up for that.

[Andy Holloway]

It was so disgusting on offense for the jets that like every week we've had a rant of some sort of. The Cardinals got their time and we could rant on them forever. To this week is the Jets. Oh, man, the jets are so bad at football.

[Mike Wright]

Disgusting.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm wearing their colors today. I don't know why. Maybe a final farewell as they get relegated into the collegiate football ranks. It was the worst coaching quarterback performance I've ever seen.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's up there, man. It's up.

[Andy Holloway]

Kurt Warner was tweeting while he called the game. Because he was so like, what am I watching? He's like, I'm calling a game with no forward passes.

[Mike Wright]

The.

[Jason Moore]

The Jets. And it was. It was horrifically bad.

[Mike Wright]

The.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't think it would be that bad, honestly, because, I mean, that was impossibly bad. But it's the. If the Jets. If Garrett Wilson is locked up with a true number one shutdown corner.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, yeah. End the.

[Jason Moore]

Then the team can't do. Like, if Garrett Wilson is so good that he can make the jets look competent from time to time. And, you know, it's like, what? Mason Taylor had one catch, I think.

[Andy Holloway]

After ask how many Breeze hall had.

[Jason Moore]

Breeze. Hey, it's zero, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Zero.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. As soon as Garrett Wilson is eliminated, which certain can do that, then the jets are.

[Andy Holloway]

They took nine sacks.

[Mike Wright]

They took nine sacks.

[Andy Holloway]

He. He had. He had net negative 10 yards. When you look at his passing completions with sack yardage lost, so he lost more yards on sacks than he even completed in total. It was just. And then they said this morning, you know, I'm not going to bench him for one. Well, one bad game.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, you can't. This is what put tyrod in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Mike Wright]

45 total passing yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, 45. I thought it was only 40.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, it's the net. Oh, 43.

[Andy Holloway]

No, that's not the net, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

That's the net.

[Andy Holloway]

That's negative. All right, well, we'll dig in. We've got Monday punday. We've got studs and duds. We've got lots to talk about, news. We'll see how long players are going to be around, and we'll dig in. Right now, I asked Jason to jump in and help me with the. With the.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you just shifting.

[Andy Holloway]

Blame the Monday punday, and I don't think he did.

[Mike Wright]

No, I didn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Why don't you start us off, Jay?

[Mike Wright]

All right, we'll start with the good. We'll remember Cam. Scatter. Boom. Wham, bam, thank you, Cam.

[Andy Holloway]

How about.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, Kimani Vidal. Oh, there were some running back situations where. What in the world do you do? Well, hindsight says it was Commodity Vidal.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Jackpot. Jackpot Smith and Jigbo. One of the best in fantasy.

[Mike Wright]

Rico. Bow, chickawaddle, waddle.

[Jason Moore]

I didn't get to be here last week.

[Mike Wright]

Rico. Rico Bellcowdle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Unbelievable.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yay. McBride.

[Andy Holloway]

TD Roa McMillan, Kendrick.

[Mike Wright]

Bourne supremacy.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, JS Wynn.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we had some bad ones on All Star.

[Mike Wright]

Emeka Egg, Big Boo Paul said, Quinshon Dodkins, Quinn Shart.

[Jason Moore]

Judkins.

[Andy Holloway]

Twilight Tagovailoa.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Matthew Stafford.

[Jason Moore]

Kenneth Walker.

[Andy Holloway]

The Turd. Stefan Diggs. My Grave.

[Mike Wright]

Cortland Nothing. And Troy Stanklin.

[Jason Moore]

Wait.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, puke.

[Jason Moore]

Nakua. I was like pook Nakua. I don't even puke. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Now here's, here's the thing for everybody. You know, I had a great fantasy week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. No, if you, honestly, if you look at your team and you had a great week this week, feel it, take that in, let it be a positive light, because there are.

[Andy Holloway]

And remember that it was so many that have skill.

[Mike Wright]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[Andy Holloway]

It was skill that got you the dub. It was bad luck that got you the L. Always true.

[Jason Moore]

Sometimes you got to remember because you have weeks like this. Remember that you have good weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

I told you guys I thought I'd make the playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, you were. No, you said I'm making the playoffs.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I really thought I was.

[Mike Wright]

And then halfway through the games yesterday, you sold.

[Andy Holloway]

I told my players. I mean, Marv Marvin Harrison went out with a concussion mid game. Mecca Igbuka went out mid game. I was. I knew it was over and I got out. So let's talk news.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

We found out that the Cowboys had placed Miles Sanders on season ending ir.

[Jason Moore]

So that escalated quick.

[Andy Holloway]

Just remember, you're like one twisted ankle. From Jaden Blue, being a meaningful fantasy contributor. Jaden Blue should be on a younger, talented speedster. So pay attention to that.

[Mike Wright]

What's the status of Phil Mafa? Is he, I think, is he eligible? He should be.

[Andy Holloway]

Did they even keep him on the roster?

[Jason Moore]

They moved him to ir. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Yeah, I mean, Jaden Blue, he'll be in the waiver wire show. Kyler Murray dealing with a mid foot sprain, uncertain for Week 7 against the Packers. They have a Week 8 by, so I would expect him to miss one more week.

[Jason Moore]

Did you see the. I don't have the true stat in front of me about. Because Jacoby Beef Brisket Brissette threw for 320 and two.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it had been like.

[Jason Moore]

It was like the last time kyler Murray threw for 302 has been like 1000 plus days or something.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's been weird because I think there's been three times Kyler's missed games where the backup came in and looked really good for like one game. And then it all fell apart. Dobbs, yeah, Joshua Dobbs was one of them for sure. But with the week eight by, Kyler might not Be back. Who knows if Marvin Harrison will be back right away because he had a concussion in the game in his return to Indianapolis.

[Mike Wright]

Cardinals offense got good as soon as you got rid of Kyler and Marv.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, they were productive.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, they should have won. The Jones looked great. All of a sudden these wide receivers.

[Andy Holloway]

Trey McBride got into the end zone and he should have scored at the end. I thought he was held.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, he definitely was.

[Andy Holloway]

Anthony Richardson. This was crazy. He was using a. I can't believe it's true. Because it's a terrible injury.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would have not let them.

[Andy Holloway]

He seemed made up. Yeah. You wouldn't have let him tell.

[Jason Moore]

I would have. I would have gone with the narrative that the team is just so done with me that I'm been. Been.

[Mike Wright]

Or at least like, I got into a big fight. Someone swung a helmet at me.

[Jason Moore]

He.

[Andy Holloway]

He basically had an accident with a resistance band and it fractured his eye.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Man, I didn't know it was bad. Orbital eye fracture.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

And he missed the game. And then.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

They also had. Was it. Who was it Cam Ward? No, it was not Cam Wardevius.

[Jason Moore]

Ward.

[Andy Holloway]

Tr. Davious Ward.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

In warmups.

[Andy Holloway]

They have the video of it in warmups. He's just running kind of like coverage out to the outside. And their tight end came onto the field. He ran into him and he got a concussion.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And he got knocked out of the game. They had two players knocked out of the game in warmups. Darnell Mooney is out for tonight. Colson Loveland, questionable. Dalton Kincaid, questionable for the double header. And then Debo Samuel. They said they'd take it down to the.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's listening. Time talked about him on Sunday Live. He's listed as questionable, but the follow up on that was a true game time decision. So it was.

[Andy Holloway]

I expect him to play.

[Jason Moore]

I think I better have an option.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I added Luke McCaffrey.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, there you go.

[Andy Holloway]

Because you're not going to have Terry McClaurin. Well, that was back when I had Debo and when I started the game yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course, he's not on my team. I don't care anymore. But the other one would be Jalen Lane. You could decide between Luke McCaffrey, Jalen Lane. You could pick up Cole Comet as an emergency play.

[Mike Wright]

I think Cole Comet is not bad, especially if Loveland doesn't play.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. If you had to flex somebody over Debo.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If you got word about it. Rashi Rice, eligible to return from suspension this week against the Raiders oh, man. And they. They just beat the Chiefs. They just beat the Lions.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the Chiefs. Guess who's back.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. And Mahomes is.

[Jason Moore]

He's a really. He looks great.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a good football player. Mecca Buka left early with a hamstring injury, didn't return. He's going to have an MRI today. Initial reports were that they don't suspect it to be as bad as Mike Evans hamstring strain. But we will not. We don't really know.

[Mike Wright]

Can we just talk about how good Baker is?

[Jason Moore]

Just serious.

[Mike Wright]

Laser Mayfield.

[Andy Holloway]

He is. He's the MVP right now.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, for sure. If it was. If voting was today and it was, you know, the season was over, he would be the mvp. He's doing it all. It's like he just keeps losing one more piece at a time. And it's like, well, he. Okay, it's this dog.

[Jason Moore]

Don't care.

[Mike Wright]

He can't handle that much. And it's just like, yes, he can. He's powering up still.

[Andy Holloway]

I love him so much. Yeah, he's actually. It'll be a big part of the waiver show is looking at options on that team. I traded Debo mid morning and had to fill in a emergency flex, which I did with Tez Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my gosh.

[Andy Holloway]

Which was my highest scoring player.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, that was a great catch.

[Andy Holloway]

And I'm just. Yeah, it was a great catch.

[Jason Moore]

Like I was a fingertip layout.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that was a good catch. But I think it was. Somebody else caught a touchdown there. Tyler Johnson. Who was it?

[Mike Wright]

It was the other. The other Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

Caleb Johnson. Yeah, Caleb Johnson, maybe.

[Mike Wright]

No, Caleb Johnson is the Steelers Cam Madison.

[Andy Holloway]

Cameron, I'm doing great.

[Jason Moore]

It's one of those weeks, man.

[Mike Wright]

Cameron Johnson with a K. Cameron with a K. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you see the story from Tez Johnson, by the way? His little. Yeah, so funny.

[Jason Moore]

The MVP chance started because he made a great play.

[Andy Holloway]

He made a great play. They start chanting mvp. He goes up and the way he says it is just so innocent and funny as a little rookie. And he goes up to Sterling shepherd, he goes, they're chanting mvp. He's like, I ain't done nothing this year. And he goes, it's for Baker, man. Oh, yeah, that makes sense. Puka Nakua ankle sprain. It's likely to miss. He's going to miss some time. There was a report this morning the Probable liar, Sean McVeigh came out and said he's day to day.

[Jason Moore]

It was almost identical to CD Lamb.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Yeah. You see this all the Time he.

[Jason Moore]

Tried to get back up and he's like, I'm going to walk it off. Nope. Goes down halftime, comes back, he's doing some warm ups on the side. Thinks he's like, no, you're done, man.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it'll probably be a couple.

[Jason Moore]

I bet it'll be three weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, they have a buy in week eight, so definitely that helps. Adds up, right? I mean, six, seven, then the buy.

[Jason Moore]

Six, seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my gosh. You both did that. Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

It's for the youths.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Wow. Garrett Wilson, the fact you simultaneously have the problem. Garrett Wilson suffered a knee injury in Sunday's game in London.

[Jason Moore]

That didn't help.

[Andy Holloway]

And a brain injury from having to be a part of that offense.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Marvin Harrison Jr. Left early with a concussion. He had a couple catches, hit his head on the ground. It was pretty obvious that he was going to be hurt in that one. John Harbaugh expects Lamar Jackson to return after the buy.

[Mike Wright]

They need them.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

We lost on Tavian Wicks to an ankle injury. Gasicki this week. Najoku with a knee injury. That one's kind of big because Harold Fannin had. I mean, there was 48 pass attempts in that game by Dylan Gabriel, and I think only three went over 10 yards. But Harold Fannin, like, PPR that game. I don't. Are you pulling up his stat line, Jay?

[Mike Wright]

No, I was just surprised you said 48 because I thought it was more. It was. He had 52 passing attempts.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Maybe 48 of them went to Harold Fannin based on those numbers.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Fannin, he will be an option, but, man, the. Those injuries that were like, Najoku got blasted.

[Mike Wright]

He had two different injuries.

[Jason Moore]

Gabriel is throwing hospital balls and we'll see how long that he can keep doing that before players are like, no, dude, I'm not going to get a head injury for you.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, like, there was. Calvin Ridley got hurt, too.

[Jason Moore]

Judy had one where it was. He's running a post right into the safety. And Gabriel's like, sure, here you go.

[Andy Holloway]

And go catch this.

[Jason Moore]

And Judy's like, no, I'm not doing that.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And I don't blame him. Like, you can't. You cannot throw those.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

Well, we did have some impressive performances this week. Let's talk about them.

[Mike Wright]

This week's fantasy stud muffins presented by Lowe's.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the number one passer and running back for the Kansas City Chiefs, Patrick Mahomes came in at number one.

[Mike Wright]

He is the number one quarterback on the season. Do you guys realize that?

[Jason Moore]

I did not. But it makes sense after number one.

[Andy Holloway]

In points per game, that would be.

[Mike Wright]

Just on the course of the season. Total points. I don't know if it's per game or not.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, I'll look it up. He's played. He's played so well.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And held that team together with Rice back, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, they're going to go the.

[Jason Moore]

Faithful that stayed true to Mahomes. And I do not count myself as one. I was like, I'm done with this.

[Andy Holloway]

He is number one in points per game. Lamar Jackson, number two, Josh Allen, number three. So after that performance, he's at 31.3 points per game. Wow. Drake May was number two on the week 18 for 26 for 261 and three. Two of those went to K. Sean Booty.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Which is pretty. It's pretty cool. I don't know if you saw his interview either, but just talking about how he had to, like, he was a completely different person three, four years ago. Had to change everything about his life.

[Jason Moore]

Good for him.

[Andy Holloway]

And now he's turning it around, becoming a really valuable player.

[Jason Moore]

He was. Yeah. If you don't know the story of Booty, he was a highly respected. He was, like, gonna be at lsu. He was gonna be like our next big thing. And then things just kind of fell apart for him. Was a really late draft pick, and.

[Andy Holloway]

So it's cool to see Jackson Dart 23.6 fantasy points. Daniel Jones is number four. Dak was number five. Dax staying in the top five. They did lose against Carolina because they don't have a defense. Man.

[Mike Wright]

It is my favorite part of football this year is Dallas's defense. It's delightful.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Any team they play can score 30. It's just great. That was. That was Bryce Young on the other side.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you can't stop Carolina with Rico.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, like Chuba. Chuba is in trouble.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that was in big trouble. It's a real issue because you can't.

[Andy Holloway]

Just can't take that off the bench.

[Mike Wright]

Rico. But also Chuba was and is paid to be their main starter. So it's like, will this turn that great 50, 50 split if Chuba's lucky, You think?

[Andy Holloway]

I do.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

As long as the production is what it is right now. I mean, he is running like a bat out of hell. I mean, he is his tails on fire.

[Jason Moore]

He had. I love Rico.

[Andy Holloway]

So this is. Yeah, you do. You can victory lap all you want. You deserve it.

[Jason Moore]

It feels so much fun. It's so good watching it happen, but.

[Andy Holloway]

No, let me. Let me help you for a second, please.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

These are two games where he had. I made the joke he won't get to 200 yards, which he didn't. I said. I said he'll only get to 180 on the show, and that's what he got to. Yeah. 180 and 200 is insane. But if you look at all his starts, if you accumulate his starts between Dallas and now and you. I think it's the last eight or ten of them, and you run him in towards the season. He's. He's on pace for 2,000 yards rushing.

[Mike Wright]

I have the lines here from his last. This was a tweet from Brett Whitefield. 19 for 86, 22 for 112, 18 for 131, 25 for 149, 13 for 23. Bad game. 23 for 104, 22 for 72, 23 for 206 and 20 for 183. He's just. He's dominating the.

[Jason Moore]

Javante being back. Great story. Feels good. But the fact that like, no one saw what Rico did at the end of last season. Talking to the NFL like Dallas, I don't know what the negotiations were, but clearly they didn't want him back enough. He had to go to Carolina on like a one year.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Jason Moore]

He's making nothing there.

[Andy Holloway]

It was, well, number one.

[Jason Moore]

Man, Rico's got to feel 10ft tall right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Number one on the week for the second consecutive week. Cam Scatter Boo at number two, Josh Jacobs at number three, trade for candidate Devon H.N. at number four and Jonathan Taylor at number five. Jacobs had two rushing touchdowns. Five for 57. Through the air. We had talked about Cincinnati. Right. And you knew Jacobs was set up. Jonathan Taylor did his thing, per usual. And Devon H.N. just.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Shining star in a. Really.

[Mike Wright]

In a toilet. It's like a golden nugget in a toilet. It's like. Do you want.

[Andy Holloway]

You go in and get it?

[Mike Wright]

Do you. I think you need to go get it. It's gold.

[Andy Holloway]

Somebody just number two in there, though.

[Jason Moore]

You can wash your hands.

[Mike Wright]

Of course they did. That's what they do.

[Andy Holloway]

Is it Mike, Big Daniel that went number two in that toilet.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So it's a little tiny turd.

[Andy Holloway]

Hey, that team is in so much.

[Jason Moore]

Trouble because it's too much fun. Who has more rushing yards on the year?

[Andy Holloway]

You can do whatever you want, Mike.

[Jason Moore]

Rico Dowdle.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

Or Saquon Barkley.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, this has to be Rico.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Because Saquon is not on pace for 1,000 yards right now.

[Jason Moore]

So Saquon is at 325 yards in six full starts. Rico has started twice. He has 472 rushing yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Kamani Vidal, 18 for 124 and looked good, which is what he looked the week before. That's why I liked Videl is just.

[Mike Wright]

Like them better than Haskins, despite the fact that he wasn't starting, you know, before the injury happened to Amari and Hampton.

[Andy Holloway]

But I mean, you had reports going into the morning.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, Sunday morning.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, big beat writers out there. Well, first they said Bam Knight was the starter and then they said Bam.

[Jason Moore]

Knight did play more.

[Andy Holloway]

He played.

[Mike Wright]

He played over DeMarcusato.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but it wasn't like over Michael Carter.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, I Think I'll look that up, but I think he had more touches and stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think so, but you can look at that. But Kamani Vidal, right before the game, it's like Hassan Haskins will be the lead back, the feature back. No, it was Vidal.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they got US Good.

[Andy Holloway]

Christian McCaffrey got his first rushing touchdown. Still just 17 for 54 on the ground. They cannot run block right now.

[Jason Moore]

They cannot. Okay, so Michael Carter, nine carries, five targets. Bam. Knight, 11 carries, two targets.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, he got hurt, though, so harder. No, no, no. Bam. Knight got hurt.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I think that report actually ended up being correct. He did score the touchdown, but it didn't really.

[Andy Holloway]

He. Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

He's running back 12 right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, and Carter, Carter was the. Literally like the first drive he was out there, so it was a little confusing. At least Kyren got back into the end zone like he always does. Ashton Genty, your trade for Canada. Yeah. So much work. I mean, 23 for 75 and 1. They. They managed to beat the Titans every.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, the Titans are abysmal.

[Andy Holloway]

Awful abysmal. They are.

[Mike Wright]

I do the Titans play the jets this year. Is that game exist?

[Jason Moore]

Because I do. I look at the schedule, but I. Reeves. Rich Rebar tweeted this out, pointed it out to us next week. As of right now, the New York jets and the Cleveland Browns are favored.

[Mike Wright]

Wow. To win.

[Jason Moore]

To no win.

[Mike Wright]

Their actual.

[Andy Holloway]

So one of them plays the Titans. What's the schedule for those teams?

[Jason Moore]

Let me pull up the schedule.

[Mike Wright]

Carolina. The jets play Carolina at home, then at home, of course.

[Jason Moore]

And the Browns play the Dolphins.

[Andy Holloway]

Neither of those teams is winning.

[Jason Moore]

I'm just telling you what it opened at.

[Andy Holloway]

That's. I mean, that's those teams, if they played each other, you know, they have a mute button on a remote. They need one that also turns the screen off.

[Jason Moore]

Well, they've got.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, I want the power on, but I want. You want to be out and muted. So symbolically just watching nothing versus that game. All right, top five wide receivers of the week. George Pickens continues his absolute money making scheme. I mean, he is. He is going to get $100 million.

[Mike Wright]

Nine the injury, 168 and a touchdown on only 11 targets. And still, still doing what he always does with drawing deep pass interference yardage as well. That doesn't show up here.

[Andy Holloway]

That is the most like George pickens can thank CD Lamb's ankle.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

For $100 million.

[Jason Moore]

Yes. Well, I mean the fact that he has bald out. He had to go do It. But the.

[Andy Holloway]

But the way Dax playing and being the only target, it's awesome.

[Jason Moore]

The timing.

[Andy Holloway]

He'll still be good when CD returns. It's just we won't be talking about him as number one every week. Jsn.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, boy.

[Andy Holloway]

Do we believe now?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, I think we've believed for a while, but he is a true alpha and I just love how he can do it in all parts of the field. You know, it's. He gets his deep shots, too. He reminds me a lot of CD Lamb in the sense that they move him around, they'll play him in the slot, they'll play him outside. He does short area stuff and then he goes across the field. Deep down, you know, he's doing everything. And also, Sam Darnold is, I think, playing good football. He's not going away. This is. Darnold is young enough and has a good contract here, so there's stability for the Seahawks here.

[Jason Moore]

You realize JSN was 54% of the targets.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, delightful.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, he's. He's just. There. There was a point. Was that the game? Yeah, there was a point in that game. I think that Darnold had 117 passing yards and JSN had 117 receiving yards.

[Jason Moore]

That makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

Like it was. They were completely the only receptions of the game.

[Mike Wright]

Why go to other people if it works? You know, I've. We've said this forever, but, like, if you have a CD Lamb or if you've got a Justin Jefferson, like the best teams, just throw it to him. It works every play.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, keep doing it. That's what they did with Cooper cup in Los Angeles. Matthew Stafford learned, knows that lesson better than anybody.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Calvin Cooper Cup, Puka. Yeah, we'll see how long that injury is. Devonte Adams is going to get a lot of work. Kayshawn Booty, two touchdowns, five for 93. That's a confusing receiving room because Demario Douglas caught a long touchdown pass in this game. Diggs disappeared.

[Jason Moore]

Douglas had another one that got called back, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he did.

[Andy Holloway]

Diggs. Diggs appeared, disappeared, and then Booty's back. Maybe Hunter Henry didn't get involved like Drake.

[Mike Wright]

May is playing great football. We've seen it on film. This is what, you know, talking. Talking about him as the start of the week this last week was he. He played so good in Buffalo despite having not a great fantasy output. The fantasy output should come, and it did this week. But the issue is he's, you know, to start the year is like, oh, okay, so it looks like Booty is the guy is the leading, you know, target. You know, he's going to have the target share, but then it was Douglas and then it was Diggs and maybe it's Hunter Henry. I think what it is, is it's whoever's going to be open. Yeah, he's going to spread the ball. Exactly. The Buffalo Bills, like, Josh Allen could be great. Josh Allen could throw for a ton. And you're not sure that you want to start anybody because if Coleman doesn't get a touchdown, it's like, it's bad. And I think that's what we're going to have here in New England, which is you can start them and you can get big games, but there's absolutely no predictability to who the number one guy is.

[Andy Holloway]

Jamar Chase, 12 targets, 10 for 94 and a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

That touchdown was ridiculous.

[Mike Wright]

It was.

[Andy Holloway]

It was.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, that is. You got to have hope and optimism. Joe Flacco, I thought, played pretty well. I mean, they.

[Andy Holloway]

That touchdown was very.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, yes, it was. It was Jamar Jason. Give me that.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there were two defenders, one that was pretty much just wrestling him mid reception and with one arm, his left arm, not even his hand, kind of his arm that was facing towards the ball, just squeezed it and caught it. Give me that. Give me that.

[Jason Moore]

You mean. He's so good one week, but I would be. It's nice to have at least some hope after what we've been experiencing with Jake Browning.

[Andy Holloway]

Lad McConkey with no. Huge was very good. 7 for 101. The big play. If you watch the very end of the game, stopped on a dime, passed his defender. Did you watch Hassan Haskins on that play by chance? It was. If you go back and watch that play. Well, he was in the. He was pass blocking and then he stayed with the play and started sprinting the whole field. Ends up out in front of lad McConkey for or just behind him to cut off the guy. It was just an impressive play and effort for them.

[Jason Moore]

And with. With that, we're going to have to have a Keenan Allen conversation.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Keenan was.

[Jason Moore]

That's three weeks in a row was real bad.

[Mike Wright]

Did he do the old man thing?

[Jason Moore]

Maybe where.

[Mike Wright]

Maybe you get off really to a hot start because you're a great football player. I mean, run out of steam.

[Jason Moore]

It's not too much different in terms of total. Well, I mean, two bad yardage games in there, but he caught a touchdown the first three weeks and then he's been 5 for 37. 5 for 58, 4 for 27. Like damaging your starting roster.

[Andy Holloway]

There were a few sigh of relief players, two of them in particular, maybe three. Brian Thomas Jr. Eight for 90 and a touchdown. Had one. Had one taken off the board. I've been telling people, please just trade for him. He's too good. So this is nice. The other one, Jameson Williams.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Six for 66 and a touchdown. It was nice to see that happen. Thank you, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

You're Welcome.

[Andy Holloway]

Also Metcalf, 4 for 95 and another touchdown. He's been.

[Mike Wright]

Should have had a bomb.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't see that play.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he was. Dude.

[Mike Wright]

He torches his guy. Two of them. He's behind the defense.

[Andy Holloway]

Bad pass.

[Mike Wright]

I mean, five, six, seven yards under thrown. And it was. To him, it was like Roger saw.

[Andy Holloway]

It, caught four passes on nine targets. You love the nine targets he scored in four straight. He's been top 10 two straight weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, maybe it's working. Maybe we're turning a corner. He gets the Bengals. That's going to be a great start. I was going to start of the week that.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, were you?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. Dibs. But yeah, I mean, it's two years. Rogers two years ago, hits that pass. No problem. It was. It felt real bad.

[Andy Holloway]

It was kind of a weird week. It was cool that Ted McMillan scored, but he only caught three passes for 29 yards in a game that they won with 30 points.

[Jason Moore]

Rico. Yeah, I mean, we don't need to throw.

[Andy Holloway]

It was. Yeah, you're right. So five targets, three for 29 and two. It was inevitable. Right. And then Dallas got. It was the number one tight end, Trey McBride, Tyler Warren, Sam LaPorta, Michael Mayer.

[Mike Wright]

This. This felt like a. A better week for tight ends because the top of this list are the guys that you want, that you expect, like TYLER Warren, Trey McBride, LaPorta, like, yeah, good. Let the good tight ends go do something and be great. I think Tyler Warren sticks out the most to me from this list. He has been really dominant. He's been more dominant than like right now he's the tight end. Two on the season, I believe, behind Dallas Goddard, which we should talk about, even though I. I don't know what to do with them.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been long enough now for Goddard's involvement. I mean, you're talking. You're not just talking about the occasional touchdown. You're talking about sort of because it's 11 targets, nine targets the past two.

[Jason Moore]

Weeks, but 33 yards, 37 yards, 19 yards, 110. What if I told you touchdowns in all of Those. I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

We're how many weeks in here? Six weeks in.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

He has his career high in touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

No, and he did. He already did before this week. I mean, we mentioned that last week. He had five and that was the most he's ever scored. I don't understand why we can't be in on that if we were trying to hang on to like, I don't know, Juwan Johnson and some of these other tight ends. It's over for Joanne. Like two out of three weeks. You're number one. You just, you need a tight end, man. Yeah, we need tight ends. Let's you say don't chase it, but he's scoring a lot of touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

But to get back to Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren very well might finish this season as the number one target for this team, ahead of Pittman, ahead of Downs. You know, he had a 30% target share in this game.

[Jason Moore]

The targets have tightened up the last couple of weeks of. It's really. I saw a tweet about it where it's like, Downs, Warren and Pittman are all within one target or so of each other.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Downs got involved early in this game. Pittman had a tough one. I think he was only like 2 for 20 in this game.

[Mike Wright]

He should be in the duds.

[Andy Holloway]

Trey McBride into the end zone. Sam Laporta, another touchdown for him.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he hit the man.

[Andy Holloway]

It was a really great touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

That was a man catch.

[Andy Holloway]

Back of the end zone. Harold Phantom was 7 for 81. Tucker Kraft saved the start of the week with a nice touchdown run. And Jake Ferguson can't stop scoring after he's spent his whole career not scoring, but just 3 for 33 in this game. A little bit disappointing.

[Mike Wright]

Very surprising.

[Andy Holloway]

Travis Kelsey, 6 for 78. He's been serviceable. And there you go. We'll take a break and we'll jump into the duds.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Well, we done talking about the studs. It's time to talk through these guys.

[Mike Wright]

Hooped in his big boy pants.

[Andy Holloway]

We did have an update. Todd Bowles, Buccaneers head coach, wanted to let us know ahead of time. The Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin are not in play for next Monday night's game.

[Jason Moore]

So Mike Evans maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, if you. By that, by that rule of thought, Emeka Buka, maybe, who knows? He's getting imaging right now. But no Bucky, no Godwin. And we'll see if he has a starting wide receiver room of Tez Johnson and Sterling Shepard and Kate Otten, right?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Kate Otten's going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

You ended up starting him, right?

[Mike Wright]

I did. I started Kate Otten. I was happy with that.

[Andy Holloway]

What did he end up with? Because we didn't talk about him in studs, but I saw a few passes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he was 5 for 51. That's.

[Mike Wright]

That's very at the tight end position from what I've been getting. I think I had zero last week.

[Jason Moore]

And in true Kate Otten fashion. Did you guys see the. Because I talk about how every time Kate on catches.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, he always gets a huge hit.

[Jason Moore]

Do you see him get body slammed?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he got lifted over somebody's head, dude.

[Jason Moore]

Every time. Every week. Every week.

[Andy Holloway]

That's legal, right?

[Mike Wright]

So you can't, you can't do the.

[Andy Holloway]

Slam, but you can lift them.

[Mike Wright]

No, you can't like lift them.

[Jason Moore]

But he, he was the one who jumped.

[Mike Wright]

He jumped and then the guy, he was like on his shoulder. So he raised up. I. Because at the, at the time I.

[Jason Moore]

Was like, it looked like a fine.

[Andy Holloway]

You should be able to lift them if they're over 250. That should be the rule.

[Mike Wright]

I think that's, that's a fair.

[Andy Holloway]

Right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Because it takes. Well, one, it shows your own strength and skill.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I mean you. Not everybody can do it. Two, they're. They're big. They're going to be able to handle this.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, but the bigger they are, the harder they fall.

[Mike Wright]

That's what makes it awesome. That's what makes it an awesome play. If you were to take like Devon Hn. Oh, I got to suplex him. That feels wrong.

[Andy Holloway]

You can throw them, but you have to catch them.

[Jason Moore]

Guys. Kate Otten. Six, five, two, four, seven.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, illegal play because I said 250.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Should be 225.

[Andy Holloway]

He's probably. Yeah. Do they weigh him without the pads?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Then he's over 250.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's a good point. When, when you gotta have at least.

[Andy Holloway]

Three pounds of pads. Right.

[Jason Moore]

But I'm, I'm not like when you, when you go to a fight, they're.

[Andy Holloway]

Not like, hey, dumbest conversation you get.

[Jason Moore]

Fight. You weigh in. Try as be as low as possible.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Justin Fields, 9 for 17.

[Mike Wright]

He's so hard to watch.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm watching this game. I had traveled this weekend. I'm out in Los Angeles, I'm trying to eat a breakfast and I'm having to watch this nauseating performance. I don't know how many times I exclaimed, I hate the Jets. It was a lot because I have Breece hall. Like I want them to do well. I like seeing Garrett Wilson have success. I believe statistically this was the worst performance of any quarterback on the season. No, outside of. Jake Browning had one performance.

[Jason Moore]

It's the second.

[Andy Holloway]

He took nine sacks. His average time to sack was almost four seconds. That is so long. It's ridiculous.

[Jason Moore]

And he will be so back next week against Carolina.

[Mike Wright]

It will at home.

[Andy Holloway]

I've never had the courage to play him because this is the possibility all the time. It's not. It's not. Oh, man. He only got you like 15. It's like I. He put a blindfold on and then took a crap in the backfield.

[Jason Moore]

In four point scoring, it has been 29 and a half. 4.27.1. 25.9. 4 point.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go. So do you want to. It's. It's roulette and.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yes, but the, the, the horrible games. Buffalo and Denver, like you put them up against Pitt when their defense was really reeling, then Miami.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm sure he'll be fine against Carolina.

[Jason Moore]

He will be. I'm not going to sit here and Tell you that Justin Fields is. It's going to be awesome quarterback play. It should be awesome fantasy points.

[Andy Holloway]

This will be the end of him as a starter. This will be the end of him as a starting quarter.

[Mike Wright]

He is one that you don't want to watch though. You just don't. I really wish. I genuinely, and I know it's insulting to him and he would never accept it, but he should be a running back. He would be so good. Well, he could go.

[Andy Holloway]

Terrell Pryor, who became a wide receiver and was like versatile in the field.

[Mike Wright]

You are just such a good and open field athlete and when you get in the open field, no one could tackle him. He pulls away from people.

[Andy Holloway]

Like if they had Jacoby Brissette at quarterback, they'd be way better off.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah. As a team for sure. I mean, he's such a great athlete. I want to watch him do what he's great at. But the problem is he keeps trying to play quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

Jordan Love, 19 for 26 and just one touchdown. I know that Papa Josh was deciding between Jordan Love and Drake May this week and it was such a tough decision.

[Jason Moore]

I would have played Love too.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you? You played Love, right? Yeah. And Drake May scored double the points.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Jordan Love and Matthew Stafford.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Stafford.

[Jason Moore]

Humongous disappointments.

[Andy Holloway]

Stafford was a huge letdown after being a pickup. And then. And then Bo Nicks, man, you watch this game against the Jets.

[Jason Moore]

He's weird.

[Andy Holloway]

He is weird. How much plays that look like he's really great and then he feels like he, I don't know, he almost like.

[Jason Moore]

Gets overconfident and can't see the field.

[Mike Wright]

How much do we like? I feel like these London games, it's not a guarantee that they're going to be bad, but so often we are seeing bad football.

[Jason Moore]

Anecdotally, it feels like they're all bad.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And so it's like, should we be a little bit more concerned going forward of just like the chance that these teams are.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we get another one next week and we get another one after that.

[Jason Moore]

Oh my gosh.

[Mike Wright]

Do we get another one after that?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, Rams, Jaguars next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. We're going to get them forever. Jason. Bo Nix, though, really on the fringe of the start category at this point. He's. He's really been disappointing. Like when you looked at the late round shot on him versus like a Drake May. I mean his best two weeks he was the quarterback 12 and week two, quarterback three and week four. But other than that he's been outside or 15 or later with some real duds in this. In this, you know, season where I don't know, he should be able to perform against a good opponent. Like a good matchup, you'd think. But he has a matchup play.

[Mike Wright]

I would agree with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Saquon 12 for 58. Judkins 12 for 36. The Judkins responses were very strong. And I don't really understand the offensive decision making.

[Mike Wright]

What in the world are you doing? I know you're down early. I know you're down early. And so 12 carries, you had to keep. You had to keep throwing it in the second half. And I'm all about throwing it. It's more efficient than running it. But you also look at your personnel, look at your team and say, what can we do? Well, because Judkins has been awesome and Gabriel is not very good, and you're putting the ball in the wrong player's hands over and over. I couldn't. I kept thinking when I was watching the games, I was talking to Mike, I was like, where's Judkins? Like, why aren't they using him?

[Andy Holloway]

His previous three weeks, 20, 25 and 25 opportunities. Right. It's not like they were winning all those games. In this game, he got 13 total opportunities. He didn't catch a pass. Like, if you like, to your point, Jay. Okay, maybe it's more efficient. Get him the ball.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Give him the ball in the screen game. Do something like. Very frustrating. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And then certainly not going away or worried.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Jason Moore]

But just Miami.

[Andy Holloway]

It's kind of the way it is. Like, the Javante performance was really.

[Jason Moore]

It was a bummer.

[Andy Holloway]

That was a pretty big bummer because you talked about Carolina's defense. I mean, 13 for 29. He did catch five passes for five yards.

[Mike Wright]

Hey, that's kind of what he does.

[Andy Holloway]

Saquon Judkins, Javante Gibbs had a kind of a down performance.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

It started strong, but they. I don't know, a bunch of people were saying, is Jameer up the middle? Gibbs, like, what are they doing? Like Breeze hall, he tried his darndest. I watched this game. 22 rushing attempts. You got to hold on to the fact that I think his running back opportunity shares like 93% the last two weeks. He should be okay. You talk about Carolina next week and then no targets in the game. Not one check down in this game.

[Mike Wright]

Fields.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was.

[Andy Holloway]

It was trying to stop the sacks is what it was. Though checkdowns didn't happen because they were keeping Breeze hall in to try a chip and that helped him only suffer nine sacks.

[Mike Wright]

It helped him get sacked later in the play.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

He was allowed to hold the ball longer.

[Andy Holloway]

J.K. dobbins, 14 for 40. His first real dud of the year. First game under 11. There were a lot of running back duds. I mean, Travis ETN 12 for 27.

[Jason Moore]

It was the week. It was not just injuries. It was also a lot of low scores.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, there were lots of Ken Walker commentaries. Because it's been three bad weeks now, and it just keeps getting worse. I don't. What is he. What are you? Ken Walker? You. Sometimes you look like the best player in football, and other times you don't even matter.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And Charbonnet as well.

[Andy Holloway]

He played 35% of snaps. You realize this?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The snaps were way down after two weeks. Even though the fantasy performance the last couple of weeks, not there.

[Andy Holloway]

What are you.

[Jason Moore]

But 19 for 81, like, that's. That should be good. 10 for 86. That should be good.

[Andy Holloway]

You're talking about the past two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. For Walker. I know it didn't turn into huge fantasy points, but this week was bizarre.

[Mike Wright]

And the Seahawks have to be saying, what are you.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Because they don't know how. They don't know what they're doing. As far as with these two backs.

[Andy Holloway]

You had 60% of snaps for Charbonne.

[Mike Wright]

Charbonnet played 60% of the snaps.

[Jason Moore]

I think they had like a three Charbonne runs in a row at the goal line. Just stuffed every time.

[Mike Wright]

It was just. They were moving the offense great, throwing the ball. Awesome. Get down the field, get near the goal line. And then they're like, let's screw this.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, both of them.

[Mike Wright]

Let's. Let's give the ball to Charbonnet three times and then kick a field goal. He's 2.6 yards per carry on the season, and they still are just like, that's fine. They gave him the ball 12 times for 24 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. They could not run on Jacksonville.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Which either. Jacksonville does have a really Good.

[Andy Holloway]

Was that 22 for 58?

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Speaking of not running, couldn't have looked more pathetic, honestly. Just a perfect. There were some, like, little nuggets of extra pain during the weekend. The book injury on top of, you know, the Harrison injury. And then like Ramon Ray Stevenson, like, I am the wheel of shame on Friday. I finally. I've broken the ice. I'm finally going to spin it. And I deserve every bit of that wheel of shame because I. I expected Ramondre to get 43 rushing yards. They didn't beat the New Orleans Saints, did they did. Oh, easily. Oh, they beat him easily. Okay, 13 for 18 now. I mean Trayvon Henderson nine for 27. Trayvon is never going to happen. That's how it feels it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I wouldn't give up, but holy moly. Feels like it.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you realize the snap count. Remember the whole argument for me saying trade for Ramandre Stevenson is I think he's going to get a ton more work. Do you know what his snap. Do you know what his snap count was looking at?

[Jason Moore]

72%.

[Andy Holloway]

72% in this game.

[Mike Wright]

That is a wonderful number for a running back. A running back. You want like 60% is good. They can have a great fantasy game if they're up at 60%. 70% is. You're like a bell cow.

[Andy Holloway]

And Travion was 50% last week. So it's going down for Travion. There was. Did you see the. My controller stuck moment for Trayvon Henderson?

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my God in the world. He was in this pass protection.

[Jason Moore]

I missed it.

[Andy Holloway]

And he's just. He's in the pass protection stance and he's real serious about it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's a three point stance, hands out in front of you, doing the little shuffle feet.

[Andy Holloway]

And Drake May's running like. He's running like out of the pocket to the right and Chevyon's just like stuck in the position but he's not moving.

[Mike Wright]

He is there ready to. Ready to block. No one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, go watch.

[Mike Wright]

There's no one in front of him and he is ready to block him though. If there was someone there, he would have blocked the crap out of him. He was.

[Andy Holloway]

My controller's unplugged is the moment.

[Jason Moore]

He is. He's looking at. There's a guy on the outside, he. And he's not sure if May's going to run or throw.

[Andy Holloway]

So I just do it.

[Mike Wright]

But it is very fun. I know what he's doing, but he just looks so stupid.

[Andy Holloway]

He kind of looked like maybe he got reamed for some pass protection problems.

[Jason Moore]

Honestly, I think that is a.

[Andy Holloway]

So he kept zoned in.

[Jason Moore]

It is a. I think it's a part of the problem for Henderson is like this is how people use players and it's like the, you know, we can go to the Detroit how they are like uplifting their players. There was even a interview with Guns Mahoney and he was like we don't accept guys who take plays off. And then he was, you know, there.

[Andy Holloway]

Was a follow up.

[Jason Moore]

He's like, okay, well, what do you do? He's like, well, when we see it, we just. We correct it. We build them back up. We get them out there. And it's like, I think that Henderson is just getting crapped on by his coaching staff, and he is not really sure how to handle it. So now he's overthinking everything.

[Andy Holloway]

He's up in his head.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. No, I think that that's a big part.

[Mike Wright]

He is still clearly the more efficient runner. I mean, he's the one. If they do more with less, he's just not allowed to get more is what it feels like right now.

[Jason Moore]

It's so brutal.

[Andy Holloway]

Tony Pollard, Isaiah Pacheco, Kareem Hunt, and then Hassan Haskins, who people spent some money on and took a shot. Were other disappointing performances at wide receiver. Ew.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Cortland Sutton, 1 for 17.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, it's shocking stuff. Bo Nix has a bad day, and Cortland Sutton has a bad day. Maybe throw him the ball more.

[Andy Holloway]

Michael Pittman Jr. 2 for 20. Devonte Adams is 4 for 39. Was wide open on multiple touchdowns. That Stafford just missed him on. It would have changed the whole day for both of those guys. Stafford had the down week. You talked about Keenan and the conversation around Keenan Allen, 4 for 27. And Jacoby Myers continues to be worthless. Romeo Dobbs back down to 5 for.

[Jason Moore]

5 for 55 is for Dobbs.

[Andy Holloway]

That's normal for Dobbs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

That's not. I don't think that's bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You just couldn't chase three touchdowns, obviously, but. Any players you want to talk about there?

[Jason Moore]

No.

[Andy Holloway]

Are we done with Juwan Johnson?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So the. The other guys are back. Oh, we got Johnson. We got Taysome again.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's back right at the goal. He's back, everyone.

[Mike Wright]

And it worked.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But for fantasy.

[Jason Moore]

It did not. It did not work for fantasy. Oh, man. We are. We're back.

[Andy Holloway]

Mason Taylor just had one target this game was. There were no wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

He had two yards, so two yards is pretty good. Pretty good market share of Justin Fields passing.

[Jason Moore]

He was not allowed to bring his meow mix into the country.

[Mike Wright]

Ah, was that it was a. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So. So little kitty cat was hungry.

[Andy Holloway]

How many? Garrett Wilson. We didn't. We didn't talk about him, did we? On the wide receivers, what was his total line?

[Jason Moore]

Very bad.

[Andy Holloway]

Is Josh Reynolds the leading receiver?

[Jason Moore]

I see Garrett was eight targets, three for 13.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Hunter Henry, three for 27. Mark Andrews, four for 24. Isaiah likely has done nothing because the Baltimore Ravens. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I don't even put.

[Andy Holloway]

Are they one in five?

[Jason Moore]

Yes, they are.

[Mike Wright]

They are one in five. Likely to me, is going to be someone that we need to remember to pick up next week coming out of the buy because we really haven't seen him and Lamar together this year. Because coming into the season, I think there was high hopes, maybe even expectations for likely. And the season is basically starting over for the Ravens in two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

That game was interesting of, you know, it was like I didn't. I didn't want to play Derek Henry, who Derek Henry actually had a very good day. He was 24 for 1, 22. And the Ravens, the game was very tight for a long time. And then eventually, you know, the. The dam opens up and the Rams are scoring more points. And so then that turns into, well, we have to have Cooper Rush and then eventually Cooper Rush is benched for Huntley. So it was. But I mean, it was nice to see Derek Henry finally get something going again. We get the bi week, we get Lamar back, we get Chicago, we get Miami, we get Minnesota. So it should be brighter days ahead for Derek Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know for certain that this is correct, but it looks to me like There have been two teams in the last 12 years that have made the playoffs. Starting one in five. 2015 Kansas City Chiefs, 110 straight after starting one and five. I remember that the Colts were one in five in 2018 and made the playoffs. It's very rare, obviously.

[Mike Wright]

Hard.

[Jason Moore]

Hard to beat.

[Andy Holloway]

You're talking a 1 or 2% chance probably.

[Jason Moore]

How many division games do they have left?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, by the way, the Steelers have been. They won the last two weeks. The entire division has lost two consecutive weeks. The whole division, zero and three.

[Jason Moore]

That's what I mean. Of like they might be able to make up some ground.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you can beat. You can beat the Browns.

[Jason Moore]

Yep.

[Andy Holloway]

You can beat the Bengals.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. So just can they get healthy enough to beat the Steelers?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah. And they've. They've got. Is this the bye week coming up for them?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Yeah. You got your shot. You better go on a run. Problem is that defense has been so beat up, I don't know if they can do it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

That was Studs and Duds presented by Lowe's. Lowe's knows Sundays are for NFL football. Earn your Sunday with Lowe's official partner of the NFL. We'll be back tomorrow with a waiver wire episode and you're going to need it.

[Jason Moore]

Should be a really interesting one.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, there's. There's a lot of question marks. Hopefully more information around some of these injuries and how long they're going to be out. And we'll be back tomorrow. Waiver wire and a lot more. Take care.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

Of acting like one.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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