Week 6 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Jordan OW!-ward

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary: Week 6 Studs & Duds, Rising Stars, Jordan OW!-ward

Release Date: October 15, 2018

In this engaging episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast, hosts Andy Holloway and Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright, joined temporarily by Jay Grizz, delve deep into the Week 6 performances, highlighting top performers (studs), underperformers (duds), emerging talents (rising stars), and noteworthy player developments. The conversation is rich with analysis, humor, and actionable insights for fantasy football enthusiasts.

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1. Introduction and Host Dynamics

The episode kicks off with a lighthearted update on the hosting lineup. Mike Wright mentions, “Jason has been replaced for but a day. He is too busy celebrating his first league of record victory.” Andy adds humorously, “He was running through the studio like a man who had just won the Stanley Cup,” setting a jovial tone for the discussion.

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2. Studs & Duds: Analyzing Week 6 Performances

A. Studs: Top Performers

• Patrick Mahomes: Despite a shaky start, Mahomes triumphed with “a 67-yard touchdown pass to Kareem Hunt” (24:03). Mike highlights Mahomes' versatility, stating, “He can throw across his body and hit Kareem Hunt,” emphasizing his unpredictable playmaking ability that defenses struggle to contain.

• Tyreek Hill: Hill's explosive speed was a focal point, with Andy noting, “Tyreek Hill just too fast.” His performance remains a consistent high point, making him a reliable stud for fantasy managers.

• Todd Gurley and Saquon Barkley: Both running backs delivered exceptional performances. Mike remarks, “Gurley outscored Barkley, this is just otherworldly performances,” underscoring their dominance and importance in fantasy lineups.

• Jameis Winston: After recent optimism, Winston had a stellar game, finishing “30 for 41, 395 yards, and 4 touchdowns.” Andy praises his performance against the Falcons, stating, “When you got a quarterback against the Falcons, it's going to be good.”

B. Duds: Underperformers

• Amari Cooper (“Pooper Cup”): Cooper’s concussion early in the game led to his underperformance. Mike sarcastically labels him as a dud, “It's just anybody who got injured is a pooped in the big boy pants.”

• Derek Carr and Marcus Mariota: Both quarterbacks struggled significantly. Mike criticizes Carr’s performance, “He disintegrated into the mist,” while Andy emphasizes the ongoing struggles, “You can't trust them at all for fantasy.”

• Tyler Boyd and Jarvis Landry: Their inconsistent performances make them unreliable. Mike points out, “Jarvis Landry has caught 11 of 29 targets for 114 yards and one touchdown,” indicating a decline in their fantasy value.

• Carlos Hyde: Hyde’s performance has been erratic, leading Andy to conclude, “Carlos Hyde is looking rough,” making him a questionable start for fantasy managers.

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3. Rising Stars: Emerging Talents to Watch

A. Josh Gordon

Andy shares his excitement about Josh Gordon’s increased role, “Josh Gordon has the snaps up to 81%,” suggesting a promising trajectory. Despite a moderate fantasy output this week, the hosts believe Gordon’s trust with Tom Brady is building, potentially leading to explosive performances in upcoming weeks.

B. Tariq Cohen

Mike highlights Tariq Cohen as his rising star, noting his versatility and impact on the field. “Tariq Cohen is doing what you don't want him to do if you're a Jordan Howard owner,” Mike explains, emphasizing Cohen’s ability to make significant plays that can sway fantasy outcomes positively.

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4. Player-Specific Discussions and Insights

A. Le'Veon Bell Rumors

Mike discusses the ongoing rumors surrounding Le'Veon Bell’s potential return to the Steelers, “Le'Veon Bell can just squadoosh those by not signing his contract until the trade deadline has passed.” The hosts debate the likelihood and potential impact on fantasy rosters, considering James Conner’s current performance.

B. Injuries and Their Impact

• Calvin Ridley and Mohamed Sanu: Both players exited with injuries, reducing target opportunities for their fantasy owners. Mike notes, “Calvin Ridley hurt his ankle. Ruled out for the remainder of the game,” while Andy updates on Sanu’s hip injury.

• Amari Cooper’s Injury: Reiterating Cooper’s concussion, Andy expresses concern over his availability and performance consistency, “Amari Cooper suffered a concussion early in the second quarter.”

• Jordan Howard: Andy and Mike discuss Howard’s diminishing returns despite his talent, with Mike stating, “It’s unfortunate. You’re not going to get 1300 rushing yards from Jordan Howard this Year,” highlighting his reduced usage and fantasy relevance.

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5. Strategy and Waiver Wire Recommendations

The hosts provide strategic advice on managing fantasy teams amid fluctuating player performances and injuries:

• Streaming Quarterbacks: With quarterbacks like Brock Osweiler and Jameis Winston showing variability, Mike advises cautious streaming: “Do you stream Trubisky next week?” while Andy remains skeptical about relying on inconsistent QBs.

• Running Backs Focus: Emphasizing the importance of securing reliable running backs, Mike urges, “You want to win? Find yourself one of these guys,” referring to top performers like Gurley and Barkley.

• Wide Receiver Management: Andy and Mike discuss the dilemma of managing inconsistent wide receivers like Tyler Boyd and Jarvis Landry, suggesting prioritizing high-impact players like Adam Thielen who consistently deliver, “Adam Thielen is a must play right now.”

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6. Community and Listener Engagement

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage with their fantasy football community, referencing listener responses and incorporating humor into their analysis. For instance, Mike shares, “Tyreek Hill was like a snow day...,” using listener metaphors to illustrate player performances humorously. Additionally, discussions about their own league experiences, such as Mike’s “heavier Mahomes investment” and Andy’s league dynamics, provide relatable content for listeners.

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7. Conclusion and Future Outlook

As the episode wraps up, Andy and Mike reflect on the complexities of managing fantasy teams amidst player injuries and unpredictable performances. They emphasize the importance of staying informed and adaptable, encouraging listeners to utilize available resources like JoinTheFoot.com for community support and further insights.

Mike concludes with, “What you do? Players,” highlighting the ongoing challenges and decisions fantasy managers face each week. The anticipation for future episodes is palpable as they promise to continue delivering expert analysis and valuable advice to help listeners succeed in their leagues.

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Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wright ([02:07]): “Mahomes ended the first half with his second interception and I was looking like a dead man in a couple leagues.”

• Andy Holloway ([23:17]): “He is the QB.”

• Mike Wright ([34:12]): “We need more tight ends.”

• Andy Holloway ([44:35]): “10 years, Raiders fans, 10 years of Jon Gruden.”

• Mike Wright ([53:42]): “It was a mess there. We've talked about the I.”

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This comprehensive analysis from the Fantasy Footballers provides listeners with a nuanced understanding of Week 6's fantasy football landscape, equipping them with the knowledge to make informed decisions in their leagues.

Transcript

[Mike Wright]

This is hall of Fame and Marshall Falk. And you're listening to the Fantasy Footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers podcast coming to you from Draft.com Studios with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Mike Wright]

Ah, welcome in. We're back. Well, most of us. The Fantasy Footballers podcast for Monday, October 15th. Mike is in the house.

[Andy Holloway]

Hello.

[Mike Wright]

Jason. Jason has been replaced for but a day. He is too busy celebrating his first league of record victory.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, he. His team finally came through.

[Mike Wright]

All expenses paid. Six week cruise through the Caribbean. That's where he's at.

[Andy Holloway]

He was running through the studio like a man who had just won the Stanley Cup. I mean, it was, the celebrations were out of hand.

[Mike Wright]

He's not actually on a cruise to the Caribbean. I don't think he has. He has some fatherly duties this morning with his kids and their school. So Mike and I have got it on lockdown. Jay Grizz in the house, helping us out and we're going to get through all the studs, the duds, the reactions to the weekend. I mean, what a game last night.

[Andy Holloway]

Unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

Brady Mahomes got off to a slow start. Got really exciting.

[Andy Holloway]

The fact that it ended where it did with basically nothing in the entire first quarter. What could have been, we could have had a hundred points.

[Mike Wright]

Was it 83 points last night?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, it sounds right.

[Mike Wright]

And I needed, I was a heavy Mahomes investor early on, even in the off season, before the season started, traded Carson Wentz in our dynasty league to get Pat Mahomes, which seemed like lunacy at the time.

[Andy Holloway]

Unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

And you know, it wasn't going well. Was not. Mahomes ended the first half with his second interception and I was looking like a dead man in a couple leagues. And then I went and I, you know, the second half started, put the kids to bed and my opponent sent me the eyeballs, you know, oh, premature celebration. He sent me the eyeballs after the first Tyreek touchdown because he was getting a little scared.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, it was. The Kareem touchdown came first.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. But then the Tyreek one happened and then another one, and then another one. And while it was exciting so I, I thought it would be fun today, I threw it out to the Foot Clan. I wanted to get some weekend reactions to how, you know, we do studs and duds on the show already. So I said, hey, give me, you know, I was driving in, I said, give me your best metaphor for the stud or dud that made a difference in your week.

[Andy Holloway]

Ooh, this is dangerous.

[Mike Wright]

Now what I didn't realize Now, I love the Foot Clan. And do you love the Foot Clan?

[Andy Holloway]

They're good people.

[Mike Wright]

Good people. I got like 150 responses. I think I got one metaphor. I think I got one. And the one person said this, and he said. He said Tyreek Hill was like a snow day. I went to bed at halftime disappointed with just the dusting on the ground. I woke up to two feet of snow and no school. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Which, look, that's pretty good. But over here, I gotta tell you, so far, you have zero metaphors. That's a simile, my man.

[Mike Wright]

Is it? I think that's a metaphor.

[Andy Holloway]

A simile is a comparison using like or as.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, really? Okay, so we have no metaphors. So we don't comprehend.

[Andy Holloway]

A metaphor you just stated is so Tyreek Hill is a snow day.

[Mike Wright]

Well, there you go. I don't even know what one is. But I. So I asked for metaphors.

[Andy Holloway]

Don't you poetry, bro.

[Mike Wright]

I got 138 puns. Okay, so this is more of a Monday.

[Andy Holloway]

Puns are so much better.

[Mike Wright]

I agree. And so now I've got these Foot clan one liners I'm gonna give you. And we'll see if they make Brooks chuckle or not. This is the visceral pun reaction to the weekend. Now, a lot of them were themed similarly because of what certain players did. Jay Grizz. Yeah, yeah. We'll get to some of your favorites.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, some.

[Mike Wright]

Let's start right here.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, some might accuse Jason of not being here after Trubisky business.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Himself another day.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that was one of them. One of them that came in was from Johnny. He said, truth Bisky. Oh, the truth. Here was another one from Jacob.

[Andy Holloway]

Truth Bisky.

[Mike Wright]

He said, jordan, how weird is my workload? All right, Brooks is nodding. How about David said Jordan Howe. Awkward.

[Andy Holloway]

Not bad.

[Mike Wright]

This one was from Pro Palms. He said Pro Palms. Yeah, like he's. Why these are handles, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

He's really in favor of the face of your hand.

[Mike Wright]

Pro Palms Gaming. All right.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay.

[Mike Wright]

And he said, tyreek, chill, bro. Cause must have been on the wrong end of that one. This one came in. Jared Garf.

[Andy Holloway]

Jared Garf.

[Mike Wright]

Disappointing Jared Goff performance.

[Andy Holloway]

Jared Geely and Jared Garf.

[Mike Wright]

Yes, yes. This was from Kent Weirack, one of our writers. He said, boyd meets Gurley. So if you had Tyler Boyd and Todd Gurley, you were in good shape.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

John said, there's no place like Mahomes.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, all right. Sorry, John.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, Fred. Here's Fred.

[Andy Holloway]

Fred.

[Mike Wright]

Fred. Fantastico. Advance past, go collect $200? No.

[Andy Holloway]

No. Wow. No, I'm just laughing at your response.

[Mike Wright]

Jordan Houred, as in ow.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, that's a good one.

[Mike Wright]

Sammy Watkins.

[Andy Holloway]

Seriously? What did he have, two receptions?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

How is that even possible?

[Mike Wright]

Not good. David Johnson.

[Andy Holloway]

What? He had a fine game.

[Mike Wright]

He was okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Crapsonville D. That's a good one.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Tyreek Skills. Okay, here's one from John Doe. I'm not surprised that's your name with this one. Jameis Winston's Uber amount of points.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, boo.

[Mike Wright]

Boo.

[Andy Holloway]

Not on this podcast. Boo.

[Mike Wright]

Jordan, how are you so bad?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And then pooper cup.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, come on. The guy got hurt.

[Mike Wright]

I know. There were a lot of pooper cup ones, and I thought that that was a little unfair. We hold everything against our fantasy players, I guess.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you see what happened to Cooper Cup?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he looked like his season ended and then it didn't.

[Andy Holloway]

Colin, Pooper cup.

[Mike Wright]

I'm feeling. You should feel pretty happy. If that's the perception, though, if there's pooper cup thoughts out there, go get him.

[Andy Holloway]

Serious? Well, I don't know. Wait for the injury.

[Mike Wright]

Wait for the injury news for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

We'll catch you up on everything today. The website's the fantasy footballers dot com. JoinTheFoot.com is our fantasy football community. You can join, support the show, get an extra episode every week. Tons of perks. It's a lot of Fun over there. JoinTheFoot.com and find us on YouTube. YouTube.com TheFantasyFootballers we're going to be posting a studio tour sometime next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, are we?

[Mike Wright]

People have been asking ever. And then we. We just had a hundred thousand a little while ago. A hundred thousand people on YouTube. We got the YouTube play button. We posted a video of opening that thing up.

[Andy Holloway]

That was fun.

[Mike Wright]

And then people saw Jason was barefoot in the studio.

[Andy Holloway]

He's one to do.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And then they all requested a studio tour. So we're gonna give them. We're gonna give the people what they want. I know. I've been saying that for, like, a year.

[Andy Holloway]

We should just call it a studio tour. And then it's just Jason's feet.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that. Just like a little teaser. Can you.

[Andy Holloway]

No, the entire video.

[Mike Wright]

Can you smell through the Internet Jason's feet?

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

All right, let's get into the rewind.

[Andy Holloway]

Weekly rewind.

[Mike Wright]

I knew that that Jameis Winston1 didn't belong in here at all.

[Andy Holloway]

Terrible.

[Mike Wright]

But I wanted to see you react to it.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, you got what you wanted.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Gross.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Boo.

[Mike Wright]

Amari Cooper suffered A concussion early in the second quarter. There were reports early on Sunday by Jay Glazer that the team was shopping Cooper. Jay Gruden came out another J because you can only counter one J's news with another J. Oh, I'm sorry, it was John.

[Andy Holloway]

I was like, why is his brother.

[Mike Wright]

No, he came out, said they're not shopping Amari Cooper, wink, wink. So I don't know. I would if I were them.

[Andy Holloway]

Jon Groon says a lot of stuff.

[Mike Wright]

They look bad this week. Cooper cup, the knee injury in the first half, carted off and then started the second half and then got pulled for the remainder of the game. It never makes a lot of sense to me when you have a nice lead and that game wasn't put away by any means at that point. But you don't want to risk a player. I mean Cooper cup was the number two fantasy wideout before this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Right? He's been absolutely dominant.

[Mike Wright]

No further update there. I mean it was a horse collar tackle.

[Andy Holloway]

Looked real bad.

[Mike Wright]

It looked real bad. And then you know, he was okay or hopefully seems to be. So we'll catch you up there. No signs yet of Le'Veon Bell, by the way, at the Steelers facility on Monday. A lot of rumors about him returning. There are rumors tonight about Matt Breida pushing to play the follow up for.

[Andy Holloway]

The Levy on Bell. It would not shock me if he waits to show up until the trade deadline has passed.

[Mike Wright]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

He's not under contract by the Pittsburgh Steelers. There's a bunch of trade rumors and Le'Veon Bell can just squadoosh those by not signing his contract until the trade deadline is passed.

[Mike Wright]

Full control.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

If he comes back, I mean it's going to be a multi back system. See I, for a little while.

[Andy Holloway]

I just don't. I think maybe a game or two. It's so difficult because James Conner's been great. I get it. He's been tremendous. Especially for fantasy purposes. Le'Veon Bell, when he is Le'Veon Bell, he's still better than what James Conner has been producing. You're going to be paying him nearly $900,000 every single game. And it would, it would surprise me still if Levy and Bell comes back soon. And it's not just his backfield getting the 80, 90% of the snaps like he's used to in just a few weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Having a player as capable as Lev is in the passing game changes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

What the defense does. So even if Connor's productive running, having Love out there gives him a totally different element.

[Andy Holloway]

Agreed.

[Mike Wright]

Quincy and Nunois. What happened to Nunois?

[Andy Holloway]

Injured his right ankle in the second quarter. Missed the rest of the game. The MRI is coming. That's unfortunate because Terrell Pryor is also dealing with a groin injury. Jermaine Curse.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Jermaine Curse put him on your radar if he is not yet already there.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. We'll get into all the waivers tomorrow after the Monday night game. But Jermaine Curse has got to be near the top. He had a great week and Uno's been banged up prior. Had a great week. But if he's hurt, Curses Curse is good for 10 to 12 targets with Sam Darnold. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Because they moved Curse into the role that Quincy had early in the year when he was the target machine. That's what Jermaine Curse is now doing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, he's. He's one of the better pickups this week and we'll go through that. More injury news. Calvin Ridley hurt his ankle. Ruled out for the remainder of the game. Mohamed Sanu also exited with a hip injury. And Julio had 637 catches for no touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Doesn't matter. He's still a monster.

[Mike Wright]

He is. Robert Turban. We'll update you once we hear more about those injuries. By the way, Robert Turbin exited with a shoulder injury. Marlon Mack got most of the work. He actually ran well seven plus a carry on Sunday. Ryan Grant left with an ankle injury, did not return. Chester Rogers needs to be on your radar. Josh Allen, quarterback for the Bills, injured his right elbow in the third quarter. If you saw the play. Did you see the play?

[Andy Holloway]

I did. It was very bizarre.

[Mike Wright]

It was a very, very much a penalty. I mean it was like a double late hit that was not called. A lot of criticism on the NFL. They. The. What was it? The roughing, the passer penalties that have become a problem.

[Andy Holloway]

The body weight.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Just the plethora of calls in general. They've greatly reduced all the concern that was out there. They've gone way down this past week. Was the least amount of them of the season. Well, I believe there were only three.

[Andy Holloway]

Players are changing what they're doing and sometimes that works into the favor of guys named Tom Brady who should have.

[Mike Wright]

Been sacked last night.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. And then he runs for a touchdown.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Moments away from the stud muffins. But before that, Niles Paul left the game with a knee injury. So any optimism about him as a sneaky tight end?

[Andy Holloway]

We'll see. You did mention it. You threw it in. Matt Breida is pushing to play.

[Mike Wright]

I wouldn't be surprised if he was out there.

[Andy Holloway]

Now what does that do for your. Because Alfred Morris was going to be a fine play of volume play if Matt Burrida was out.

[Mike Wright]

So let's think about this. Basically the only people that this news directly affects is if you have Alfred Morris and Matt Burrita.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct.

[Mike Wright]

Or if you have Alfred Morris and Aaron Jones or if you have Alfred Morris and Jamal Williams or Ty Montgomery. That's the people. Otherwise you're locked in. You're kind of stuck with Morris. And if you're in that boat, I don't think you're in. I don't think you're in Gooser land. I don't think you're in trouble for Morris not doing something. It will hurt the targets. And we saw Morris be the accidental.

[Andy Holloway]

Beneficiary of the injury last week and Kyle Juszczyk just.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it would reduce my confidence in use check if you've got Breeda and.

[Andy Holloway]

Morris, you find out that Breed is in. Do you go with him knowing that he's leaving every single game with an injury or do you just stick with Alfred Morris and get what you get?

[Mike Wright]

I think I would personally play Matt Breida and I would trust that the coaching staff has made the decision that they don't want to hurt this guy again and he's healthy enough to play. But it's not a situation I want to be in and I would much rather play just play Aaron Jones tonight than either guy.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

So guys that didn't play on Sunday. Ryan Tannehill, Dalvin Cook, Chris Thompson, Jordan Jameson Crowder, John Ross, Nick Vanette, Tannehill was the surprising. Now I thought it was Brooks Tober, but it was Brocktober. Oh, it's Brocktober, man. What?

[Andy Holloway]

Your month has been stolen, Brooks. Yeah, sorry.

[Mike Wright]

Did you. Did you start Brock Osweiler, Brooks in any of your leagues? Nah, man. Me neither.

[Andy Holloway]

Ryan Tannehill, that was just like. I'm not. He's of course hurt. We're just. It's a funny situation of you're about to play the Chicago Bears who have just been demolishing quarterbacks and you kind of pop up late in the injury report. Not doubting it. Ryan Tannehill had a hurt shoulder. But for Brock Osweiler to come in. Get. Get the w. Look, I mean all over the place. His temperature was great and terrible at the exact same time.

[Mike Wright]

Two picks, three touchdowns, 380 yards, but 28 for 44. I mean the top five scorers on the week in our league of record. Mahomes, Winston, Gurley, Hill and Brock. Right in the middle. Yeah, right in the middle.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Very fun.

[Mike Wright]

So welcome to the NFL. There was. There was a point, I think, during Sunday where the top scorers were like, Brock Osweiler and Cole Beasley, and, I mean, it was just a weird week.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the top fantasy wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's what it was.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. The top fantasy wide receivers. I'm pulling it up in a standard league. Well, Tyree Kill took the top spot, but before Tyree Kill had played, it was Albert Wilson, Tyrell Williams and Cole Beasley.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, for the first and only time in the history of Earth, we're going to transition properly from talking about Brock.

[Andy Holloway]

Osweiler to the stud muffins, this week's fantasy stud muffins.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, this is a funny. A funny little tidbit on Brock. First career start as a Bronco beat the Bears. First career start as a Texan beat the Bears. First career start as a Dolphin beat the Bears.

[Andy Holloway]

The Bears slayer, Jay Gris.

[Mike Wright]

Run and hide. Brock's got your number, Chicago. And that's not a number that, my goodness, not many people have.

[Andy Holloway]

So that was bearishing.

[Mike Wright]

When I heard that Brock was starting, I figured the Chicago defense would be the greatest thing that we've ever seen.

[Andy Holloway]

I completely agree.

[Mike Wright]

And then people that are mad at that assumption needs. Need to watch football. Jameis Winston, pretty much the show started the week. Last week with the optimism we had. Came, showed up 30 for 41, 395 and 4.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, what a game. Excellent game for Jameis Winston against the Falcons. The Falcons defense is bad, and they. When they kept getting hit even more on the defensive side with injuries. If you got a quarterback against the Falcons, it's going to be good.

[Mike Wright]

Winston has Cleveland at home next week, then Cincinnati Carolina on the road. You can play him next week.

[Andy Holloway]

You can play him. Yes.

[Mike Wright]

All right. Dak Prescott against Jacksonville at home. Showed up first QB1 performance since week 14 of 2017 for Dak. He's only been a QB1 twice in his last 14 games. And to explain how fantasy owners are looking at Dak Prescott, I have a Aaron Rodgers on by next week. Right. So a lot of people going to be looking for a streamer. Last week, before Eli played and before anything happened with this past week's games, I signed Eli. Oh, I signed Eli over Dak.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, no, I didn't have to play.

[Mike Wright]

Him, but I just signed him ahead of time, thinking I need to sign somebody off a waiver wire.

[Andy Holloway]

Bad mojo for your roster.

[Mike Wright]

Though I. I still want. But I'm not going to play Eli. But I'm sitting there going like, that's how Dak felt. Right? Like he was a dud forever. But this week, he ran the ball 11 for 82 on the ground, a touchdown. 17 for 27 through the air, two touchdowns. Now only 183 yards passing. But, I mean, is this an outlier for Dak based on the weapons that he has?

[Andy Holloway]

I believe so. Because even though I have undying love in my heart and my soul for Mr. Cole Beasley getting it done, I mean, that's an outlier performance. So what was he? A hundred yards, two touchdowns? And it was. It really was the rushing. Because this. These are the numbers that Dak was putting up when he was a quarterback. 1. Every single week. He was right around the 200 yard passing range, but he would get a couple touchdowns and then he would run for 40 yards. So if. If Dak is going to run again, then that will change the. The existence of Dak for fantasy purposes.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And I'll let that bear itself out on the waiver wire because there's no reason to go out and get him. He's traveling to Washington, then has a bye week.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think he's worth a pickup.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not excited to play him against Washington.

[Mike Wright]

No. Matt Ryan.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodness.

[Mike Wright]

354 and three against Tampa. The almost upset almost came through that little lateral play at the end. Almost won the game for tampa.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. If DeSean Jackson catches that lateral from Evans, the game is over. And the Tampa Bay Buccaneers would have won.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, we'll get. We'll continue through these studs. Before you do that, I want to thank Pristine.

[Andy Holloway]

Whoa. Pristine Auction. What's going on over there, buddy?

[Mike Wright]

I may have swallowed my own throat.

[Andy Holloway]

Ron Pipe. We want to thank Bristine Oxen for being on today's show.

[Mike Wright]

Tyreek Hill signed Chiefs jersey, $62 yesterday. My apologies to Pristine Auction for that. It was just a anticipatory delay. It was a feature.

[Andy Holloway]

You need to tag me in, man. I'm always good for Pristine.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

We did. We talked about Matt Ryan. Let's talk about the truth. Mitch Trubisky 316 and 3. Rubbing it all up in Jason's face.

[Andy Holloway]

All up in his face.

[Mike Wright]

25 rushes on the year for 6.6 at carry. So he does move around a little bit. Has New England at home next week, then the jets, then Buffalo. I mean are you.

[Andy Holloway]

He can prove a lot. I think it's going to be a really rough stretch though.

[Mike Wright]

You would stream Trubisky next week?

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Over Eli or Dak?

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, not against the pats. No.

[Mike Wright]

Patrick Mahomes 23 for 36, 352 and 4. I came in. Would you say I was dancing Brooks? Dancing? Singing. Yeah. You're having a great morning coming in. Yeah. I really like Mr. Mahomes. Look, there are very few players that when they do a full sprint away from the line of scrimmage, away from like a relevant passing position that I'm more excited when they do that because he can throw across his body and hit Kareem hunt for a 67 yard touchdown. I mean I think defenses don't even acknowledge the range of possibilities that can happen when he's in that position.

[Andy Holloway]

Possible.

[Mike Wright]

I was telling Baby Josh this morning too What Tyreek does when there's a single high safety is incredible because the second that single high safety turns his hips because Tyreek breaks through, his guy sprints the middle of the field. The second the hips turn, he can cut it underneath. Julio does this all the time. That's what happened on the touchdown last. Now that shouldn't have been a touchdown because he should have taken a competent angle to push him out of bounds.

[Andy Holloway]

But I don't know if there was a competent angle or not. Tyree kills just too fast.

[Mike Wright]

He earns himself like 30 yards of space in the middle of the field. So it's just the weapons that Mahomes has. He ended up the number one quarterback on the week. Cincinnati, Denver, Cleveland. Coming up. Not much we need to talk about with Pat Mahomes. Nope. Carson Wentz had a nice bounce back week. Cam Newton did his thing. Andrew Luck. What do you, what do you make of Andrew Luck in fantasy? Because it seems like it's death by a thousand cuts for fantasy opponents when they face Andrew Luck. Yeah, it's, I mean, what, four touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Again and three turnovers. And look, his wide receivers are certainly a part of the dilemma when it comes to all the turnovers that are, that have been happening for Andrew Luck. But he's gonna get fantasy points. That's, that's all that matters for Andrew Luck. It's not necessarily something you want to watch and enjoy and it's, it's a good time. It's a, it's just a joyride through the streets. When you're watching Andrew Luck like Patrick Mahomes, for the most part, you're, you're enjoying everything that's going on with Andrew Luck. You're gritting your teeth, you have no fingernails by the end of the game and then you go, oh wait, I was fine. He threw for 304. Oh, okay. Okay, we're good.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it doesn't help that he's making his hay on Chester Rogers and Eric Ebron. That's not the flashiest of playmakers. When he gets Ty Hilton back though, it will improve. It gets even better. So, I mean, Luck is just dependable, reliable. Russell Wilson heads into the buyout with a 17 for 23 for 222 and three game. Another touchdown for Lockett. What, what are the expectations for Wilson rest of season? He is a QB.

[Andy Holloway]

He is the QB.

[Mike Wright]

What the.

[Andy Holloway]

He's still.

[Mike Wright]

Is he an 8 to 10 range guy? Is he a 3 to 6 range guy?

[Andy Holloway]

He is a lower range quarterback. Won for me. I mean, 222 yards, that's fine. But to come the yardage output compared to the touchdowns is not something that you generally see. Like you don't see a 198 and 3. It's difficult to make those things happen. Russell certainly can do it, but I'm not trusting him to be a top tier fan fantasy quarterback. He's fine. He's fine.

[Mike Wright]

Let's move into the studs at the running back position. Let me just say this. You want to win? Find yourself one of these guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon, Saquon Barkley, Kareem Hunt, James Conner, gurley. Career high 208 yards rushing. Could have had more if they gave him the ball more. What a game. I mean I, I thought I was running away in a league with Saquon. Gurley outscored him. Mike thought he was running away in a league with Gordon. Gurley outscored Gordon. This is just otherworldly performances.

[Andy Holloway]

It's not. It's really not fair.

[Mike Wright]

It feels great when you have them. Look, you focus on things. 12 targets for Saquon game script proof. We talked a lot about him after Thursday. So who do you want to pull out of here? I mean Sony, Michelle had a great week. You finally saw a good week from Latavius Murray. You find this all a big week from Alex Collins.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And then my rising start to recon. We'll talk about him in a little while.

[Andy Holloway]

The Alex Collins game. I would see if people are interested in Alex Collins. 19 carries for 54 yards. Meanwhile Edwards, a third string running back.

[Mike Wright]

That would be Gus Edwards.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you. The third string running back for the Ravens is starting to get some play. Looks capable and we know Alex Collins is always on the leash with the fumbling problem.

[Mike Wright]

Just one rush for Buck Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm a little hesitant on Alex Collins because with coming through with that performance. Latavius, the matchup was finally juicy enough. If your running back is going up against Arizona or the Denver Broncos, you're going to have a good day. Is that's just the way it is now.

[Mike Wright]

Broncos two straight games. Right.

[Andy Holloway]

Allowing a 200 yard rusher.

[Mike Wright]

Is there Crowell and then that's embarrassing. Yeah. And I would. I'm going to include the Kansas City defense in that list. Sonny Michelle, 24 for 106 and two. Michelle's great.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

He's been great for three straight weeks on the ground now he's not getting targets. So he's a little capped on that. Like if he got targets he would have been in the conversation with the performances by Connor or Barkley or Gurley, but he wasn't. Peyton Barber showed up again. They didn't use Ronald Jones. And then Ezekiel Elliott. Nice game. Frank Gore. What do you do with Frank Gore?

[Andy Holloway]

He is infinite. He is all.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. What do we say? Kenyon Drake after that glum.

[Andy Holloway]

He is finite. Is over.

[Mike Wright]

He is not. He is nothing.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

He is not all Frank or 15 for 101.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know what you do with Frank Gore. I mean I'm. The matchup against Detroit. Are you. It's a fine matchup, but are you actually going to play Frank Gore?

[Mike Wright]

Frank Gore or Royce Freeman?

[Andy Holloway]

Frank Gore's at least getting double digit carries.

[Mike Wright]

That's my point. Oh, cover your eyes and put him in.

[Andy Holloway]

Curse you, Royce Freeman.

[Mike Wright]

No, I mean you try to start that, that Rolls Royce and it doesn't start.

[Andy Holloway]

No, it's. The engine's not turning over.

[Mike Wright]

No, I mean all the hopes and wit. Now here's the only thing I'm going to say with regards to Roy Freeman, who is a dud. Things do change quick.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

It doesn't mean it will for him. But look at the perception of Sony Michel three weeks ago to now. The difference of mindset for a fantasy owner. I think we all agree he's a stud rest of the season.

[Andy Holloway]

Sony.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

So things do change. Injury an opportunity.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what it took for Sony. Rex Burkhead went on the injured reserve, simplified the equation for the. For the running backs for New England. If something happens when Philip Lindsay misses time, I believe that Royce Freeman will be a student. Fantasy football.

[Mike Wright]

All right, wide receiver studs. This week one of the puns that came in, you know, one of those metaphors was losing to me was unavoidable. Oh, Tyler Boyd again. Seven for 62 and two on nine targets. He has a touchdown or 100 yards in four of his last five games and seems as reliable as they come.

[Andy Holloway]

Kansas City, Tampa Bay. The next two matchups for Tyler Boyd. I mean, delicious.

[Mike Wright]

Those are top 12 weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. Yeah, it was in the range of outcomes. He's a safe wide receiver too.

[Mike Wright]

Tyree kill. 7 for 142 and 3 on 12 targets. Ho hum. He's fast.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

The closest doppelganger in the NFL to Tyree kill. Albert Wilson. Six for 155 on and two on nine targets. Look, Albert Wilson has the two longest yard after the catch plays of the entire season. 71 and 78 yards. He made Brock look good. Little short slant route turns A corner hits the nitro button, and if you want to play him, you're flipping a coin.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, you are. I am curious. So we talk about things changing. He is. This was the most involved he'd ever been in a game for the Miami Dolphins. Nine targets, his season high. Before this, The. The last couple games, he got six targets. Will Mr. Butthole Adam Gates finally realize the weapons that he needs to use to have success? Will Albert Wilson be a more integral part of the game plan?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

Because I don't know either.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just throwing it out because Brock.

[Andy Holloway]

Osweiler put it out in the universe using Oprah's secret.

[Mike Wright]

It was the quarterback. Right? I mean, that was. That was a part of the equation here is, you know, did they give him some higher percentage passes to Albert Wilson? The screen, the screen pass is something they use Wilson for. They normally give him a handoff or two a game. I don't know. I don't know if they will or not. I can't bank on it. But if you. If you hit, you hit.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Cole Beasley, Tyrell Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

You realize Tyrell Williams scored him back to back place. Yeah, on the same place, on the same exact route.

[Mike Wright]

But again, Tyrell Williams, Cole Beasley, Albert Wilson, you can start these guys next week. And if you do, you might get two points. One point. I mean, if you had to pick one of those guys to pick up, let's say you had to. Are you interested in all of them? None of them. I'm not really interested in them.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not really interested, unfortunately.

[Mike Wright]

So we'll talk more about that tomorrow. Guys, that you might. There might be a player that you would rather drop now than one of those guys, But Adam Thielen, six straight games with 100 plus yards receiving.

[Andy Holloway]

Unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

Fifteen targets a game. That's what I just want to call Adam Thielen. I mean, he. He's winning weeks, he's winning fantasy titles for people.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Al Shawn, 8 for 74 and 2. We talked about him. And Emmanuel Sanders, 7 for 115 and 1 almost had a second one. Emmanuel Sanders, by far the most reliable guy on that team.

[Andy Holloway]

100% juju.

[Mike Wright]

Another nice week at the tight end position. Austin Hooper.

[Andy Holloway]

What is going on? 9 for 70 with Austin Hoover. I mean, he's. Is he becoming what we have hoped for years that he could be?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

12 targets, 10 targets past two weeks, nine receptions, 70 plus yards.

[Mike Wright]

I will answer in the affirmative. He faces the Giants next week. And you have injuries to Sanu and Ridley. Hooper is a must play right now.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree.

[Mike Wright]

Right. I mean, at that point, that you can't argue with it.

[Andy Holloway]

And this is great. We need more tight ends.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. In the fantasy party, more of them not named. Eric Ebron. Four for 71 and one again. Seven targets for Ebron. Keeps getting it done. David and Joku, seven for 55 and one on 12 targets. O.J. howard. Hello. Welcome back. Four for 62 and a touchdown. Yeah. I mean, it is Hooper's third season, right? That little third season, you know, third season breakout. And if he's earning the trust in Matt Ryan, if the target counts are up there, you're going to get production every week.

[Andy Holloway]

It's just so strange that it's seemingly out of nowhere because if you bought in to the third season, okay, Austin Hooper, let's roll with him at the beginning of the year. 3 for 24, 5 for 59, 3 for 23, 1 for 19. And then just, I don't know, the key fit finally.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, it was a great game. Jason started him two weeks in a row. Part of his first victory in league of record.

[Andy Holloway]

Yep.

[Mike Wright]

Let's get into the rising stars.

[Andy Holloway]

Rising stars of the week.

[Mike Wright]

Some of our listeners may have thought we avoided this player, but we're just saving him up. He's. He's. Mike's. Mike's rising star.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. My rising star of the week, Josh Gordon. Oh, my goodness. When. When Josh Gordon was on the field to start the game, I shared my jubilation with our company chat channel on Slack. 81% of the snaps. Only Julian Edelman played more snaps at the wide receiver position for the New England Patriots. A team high nine targets. I get it. He only came through with five for 42. Josh Gordon. It wasn't a great fantasy game. There's still a learning curve you saw towards the. While the Patriots were trying to come down and win the game, Tom Brady yet again looked to Josh Gordon and it seems like Gordon didn't do what Brady thought he was going to do, which was continue streaking down the field because he had a. There was no safety on him and he just had the 1dB to beat as well as the end zone target. Josh Gordon overran it a little bit for what Tom Brady would prefer him to do. But the trust is building. The snaps are finally there. Nine targets. It's only a matter of time until Josh Gordon explains explodes for fantasy. I am extremely excited if you have Josh Gordon and you held on for just hopes and Dreams the entire season. I think that things are finally starting to solidify for the fantasy purposes of.

[Mike Wright]

Josh Gordon on the road the next two weeks. Chicago, Buffalo, then Green Bay, Tennessee before the buy. Do you expect to see double digit performances those four weeks?

[Andy Holloway]

At least a few of them, yes.

[Mike Wright]

So I look, I'm optimistic about him as well due to the snap count. The reason you couldn't play him or you hesitated to play him is because of opportunity. The talent superseded the opportunity the week prior with the 50 yard touchdown. They didn't connect. The volume you had in your excitement normally is attached to fantasy points. They didn't have the fantasy points this week. But the snap, I get it.

[Andy Holloway]

It's rising star and this wasn't the. We're holding on to the hope of Chris Hogan who was playing all the snaps because he was not getting targets. Nine targets and at least a few of those were Tom Brady forcing it to Josh Gordon saying, make a play for me.

[Mike Wright]

My rising star this week is Tariq Cohen. Tariq, he's back. The dinosaur hunter is back.

[Andy Holloway]

We don't have to do that. Jason's not here.

[Mike Wright]

That's true. Look, seven receptions in each of the last two games. If you're a Jordan Howard owner, who's, who's sitting there and I'm gonna, I'm gonna look this up real quick because Graham Barfield tweeted the snap percentage for Jordan Howard over the last four weeks off to find it. I retweeted it, but it's not good. And look, Tariq Cohen is doing what you don't want him to do if you're a Jordan Howard owner. So snap rate 73% to 62% to 54% to 51%. I don't think there's anything wrong with Jordan Howard. I don't. I think that Jordan Howard is not everything that they want at that position. And when a guy like Tariq Cohen comes in and makes monster plays, gives them electricity in the passing game. Look, it's one thing to say Jordan Howard's take taken a step forward and now he can catch the ball. But that doesn't mean that the catch turns into a monster play. Right. You know, that's the difference between passing the ball to LeGarrett blunt or passing the ball to James White. It's after the catch and Tariq Cohen has the ability to make a game breaking play. It's just kind of, it's, it's unfortunate. You know, you're not going to get 1300 rushing yards from Jordan Howard this Year.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct. And it was this feels like not.

[Mike Wright]

Like a rising star, but like it just like. Like a. What do they call a sun when it. When it.

[Andy Holloway]

A white dwarf.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know. He's whatever. Whatever the sun is that no longer shines so brightly. That's Jordan Howard.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he went. He's supernova. And now it's. Now he will implode onto himself and be a. An inescapable black hole of doom on.

[Mike Wright]

Your roster that you. And this is one of the big.

[Andy Holloway]

You have to play him.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that's one of the big questions for this week that I have for a lot of players. Maybe we'll get into it tomorrow. Maybe that'll be the quick question tomorrow. But the. What would you do? What do you do? Players.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

Jarvis Landry, Rob Gronkowski.

[Andy Holloway]

Gronk saved the day.

[Mike Wright]

He did. He did. But you know, Jordan Howard has had single digits in three or five weeks now. He played Arizona. And anybody who plays Arizona blows up.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

But now you got New England, the Jets, Buffalo. I just.

[Andy Holloway]

I am. Howard's very perplexing. What's going. It was a lack of. It was a lack of volume. I know he ended with 14 carries, but they went into overtime and he did most of his damage on two or three straight carries as. As the Bears were charging down to. To kick a missed field goal in the first half, they just. They were not giving him the ball. They finally did as they approached, approached the end zone and then glumble from Mr. Jordan Howard. So it was. It was not what. What we thought was going to happen.

[Mike Wright]

Talent and opportunity are the two factors in a player's fantasy production. Yeah, he's not getting opportunity. He's still talented. But Tariq Cohen, seven receptions. You have to rise him up. He's a rising star. Right now the opportunity for Cohen is there. I think the baseline in PPR leagues is now there. So you got to go with Chris with Tariq Cohen. And those were the rising stars brought to you by fantasychamps.com you need a trophy, a ring, a fantasy football jersey.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You want to be a braggart? I mean, I'm planning on multiple titles this year. I'm five and one in both of our major leagues and I'm feeling great. I'm pre ordering all my trophies right now. Let's get into the duds.

[Andy Holloway]

Pooped in his big boy pants.

[Mike Wright]

According to all the Cooper cup haters. It's just anybody who got injured is. It is a pooped. Pooped in the big boy pants. DeSean Watson, what happened? 15 for 25, one touchdown. Buffalo didn't run the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Their defense is legit. Legit, yeah. And he's lucky he got the one touchdown because it was. He fired the ball at DeAndre Hopkins literally as fast as he could throw it. Just lucky that Hopkins has some real strong hands.

[Mike Wright]

You, if you're been playing deshaun Watson, you have to. He has to take on Jacksonville in Jacksonville next week. Are you taking a little Watson break?

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, I would strongly consider it. Jacksonville's been rough the past couple of weeks, but I would strongly consider it because the offensive line for the Houston Texans is exactly the medicine that the Jaguars need to get right if Leonard.

[Mike Wright]

Fournette gets back for that game. They showed a stat yesterday. The Jacksonville Jaguars run the ball 52% of the time with Fournette, 37% of the time without him, and they slow the game down. So Fournette's back, they're at home. The defense gets back on track, it could be a trap game for Watson. Derek Carr, hey, suffered an apparent left arm injury in the fourth quarter. He completed no passes over 10 yards. He only had two attempts over 10 yards. He averaged.01 air yards on his completed passes. And if you look at the. I mean, make sense there. That's because there are so many. Yes, there are so many behind the line of scrimmage that his average ended up at point one. If you look at it, there were eight. Eight behind the line of scrimmage. Screen passes on the left side, probably all to Jalen Richard, three on the right side. He did nothing. He is nothing. He disintegrated into the mist. This was an atrocious game. And with him playing like this with no weapons producing, you've seen Marshawn lynch become irrelevant. You've seen Amari Cooper's irrelevance. You've seen Derek Carr's irrelevance. Do we delete them from the NFL for fantasy purposes?

[Andy Holloway]

10 years, Raiders fans, 10 years of Jon Gruden. I honestly, I can't.

[Mike Wright]

Have you seen.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if this is a Jon Gruden thing or a Derek Carr thing. I don't know if he is. If Carr has lost all confidence in his ability or what is going on with the psyche now?

[Mike Wright]

I just pulled up the website. Is Gruden gone yet? And the answer still says no. There are nine years, 13 weeks, three days, two hours, 48 minutes and 48 seconds remaining on that contract.

[Andy Holloway]

The best part of that website is the money Made ticker.

[Mike Wright]

Gruden has made $8.74 since I pulled it up. He's made $7,718,000 so far. This in the contract. He is still owed $92,281,000.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on, Gruden, get it together, buddy.

[Mike Wright]

Look, he'll tell you the Mac trade and all that. It's about building for later. Yeah, and I would tell you that too if I were in that box.

[Andy Holloway]

He is approaching his build like someone who has 10 years.

[Mike Wright]

Who's worse, Marcus Mariota or Derek Carr? Marcus Mariota sacked 11 times, had 10 completions, sacked more often than he completed a pass. Highest sack per drop back rate in the last six years. He was sacked on 39% of drop backs.

[Andy Holloway]

And that's, that's, that is courtesy Pro Football Focus.

[Mike Wright]

And that's not all Baltimore. I mean, anytime you break records, it is one part the defense and it is one part the O line, one part the quarterback. I mean 10 for 15 and 117 yards. Brooks put up better numbers this week.

[Andy Holloway]

Move on. Move on from Mario to move on from Carr. They. You can't trust them at all for fantasy. I don't. And I don't even care if the both of them come out and just explode next week. I don't care.

[Mike Wright]

Let's talk about the fantasy. Yo, yo. Isaiah Cruel. He has alternated good week, bad week every week this year. 13 for 40. Surprise. A surprise that he was out there. Yeah, but he played in Indianapolis, didn't do much. Mike, how do you feel about Crow?

[Andy Holloway]

He's, you know, he was. You did not want to play him coming off the ankle injury. He was, he was out all week except for a limited practice on Friday. So it was a situation you kind of knew you should avoid. But he's. He's the home run hitter. He's a running back. Three who just has the ability to give you top five weeks. Somehow he.

[Mike Wright]

Here's the perspective that might blow your mind going into the week. He was the AFC's leading rusher.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, well, a 200 yard game in week five will do that.

[Mike Wright]

Still, you go through five weeks and Isaiah Crowell leads the NFL in rushing or the AFC in rushing. And yet you don't know whether you can play him week to week. And he has Minnesota, Chicago the next two weeks. So he's more of a set than a start. For me, it's all about your options. But I'm hesitant.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Carlos Hyde, where'd he go? Things have not been good for Big names in Cleveland once Baker Mayfield showed up. Carlos Hyde and Jarvis Landry were capable fantasy starters for the weeks that Tyrod Taylor was the quarterback. And what's happened? It's.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, for Carlos Hyde, honestly, it's. It's been rough the entire season. I mean, he's just been getting touchdowns and it was one of those. You knew that the variance was going to hit. You knew that the regression was going to hit Carlos Hyde. But it has hit him right in the nethers. And for fantasy purposes, Carlos, I looking rough.

[Mike Wright]

Would you rather have lynch or Hyde stuck in those two tough situations?

[Andy Holloway]

I think I would rather have. Wow.

[Mike Wright]

Can you count them both as one player and combine. Combine the points.

[Andy Holloway]

Carlos Idolise gets to play Tampa Bay this. This next week.

[Mike Wright]

Well, that's. See, that goes for Jarvis too. This is. I'm putting them both on blast. If Hyder Jarvis don't show up this week at Tampa, which everyone doesn't show up, you're getting the boot. You're out of my lineup. You're riding the bench.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the lack of fantasy points is contagious. Everything is contagious in Cleveland.

[Mike Wright]

No juice for Jarvis this week. Royce Freeman, 9 for 22. Dion Lewis, 5 for 9. Every player in Tennessee is handicapped by the ineptitude of Marcus Mariota, Corey Davis, Dion Lewis, Derrick Henry. We've talked about Jordan Howard at length already and we've talked about Marshawn Lynch. So the other player I want to bring up is Naim Hines. Marlon Mack returned. Naim Hines stepped into the background. Only 2 for 21 through the air. And this is a game where, you.

[Andy Holloway]

Know, they needed him.

[Mike Wright]

Four touchdowns from Andrew Luck, 3 for 14 on the ground. And Marlon Mack seems to be the.

[Andy Holloway]

Guy to own there, at least right now. He certainly does. I. It won't shock me at all, though, just to see. So you'll. Hines only had the three targets this past week. I think it will. He will see an uptick, but I don't know if you can. With Mac back and getting that immediate workload, it's going to be very difficult to trust Heinz.

[Mike Wright]

Chris Carson.

[Andy Holloway]

Speaking of lack of trust.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean, Carson, Mike Davis and Rashad Penny.

[Andy Holloway]

Come on, guys.

[Mike Wright]

Running backs for Seattle against Oakland.

[Andy Holloway]

They duped me again. I finally bought in.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

On the freaking Seattle backfield in a juicy matchup.

[Mike Wright]

29 carries to be fair, but split across three guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Chris Carson did have a touchdown called back.

[Mike Wright]

Tell you what, I think you should bench him this next week. I think just punish them. Put him on the bench for the Bye week. I will put him on the bench for the bye week. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Mike Wright]

Pure coincidence.

[Andy Holloway]

That's bold.

[Mike Wright]

Kenyon Drake, 13 for 57. They went back to him. He had the glumble. The goal line fumble in overtime. He then wept on the sideline and then came back in the game and helped him out. Kenyan Drake is a player in the National Football League. Yep, that's it. Purgatory wide receiver duds. Jarvis Landry. Listen to this. From what. Rich Rebar.

[Andy Holloway]

Rich Rebar.

[Mike Wright]

Jarvis landry has caught 11 of 29 targets for 114 yards and one touchdown in Baker Mayfield's three starts. Thirteen of those targets were catchable, according to Pro Football Focus. And then he faces Tampa this week. Look, Baker.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

3.93 yards per target over the last three games. One of the hardest things a fantasy owner has to do is bench a name. Bench a talent. Right? Nobody doubts that Jarvis Landry's hyper talented, but it ain't happening.

[Andy Holloway]

It's been rough for Baker since the. Since the miracle second half comeback for Baker Mayfield. It has been very, very rough.

[Mike Wright]

But I mean, a fantasy owner that right now has Kenny Golladay, who's been double digits every week except for one.

[Andy Holloway]

And Kenny Galladay is an auto start.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but if he's not. He's not drafted to be that.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course.

[Mike Wright]

It was signed to be that.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course.

[Mike Wright]

So if you're asking for a friend, Tyreek Hill, Jarvis Landry and Kenny Golladay, you have to start two this next week. Galladay is Miami. Jarvis Landry has that juicy matchup. What do you do?

[Andy Holloway]

I would play Golladay.

[Mike Wright]

And you'd bench Jarvis?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

So even though you said Jarvis was. Yeah, gotta play him.

[Andy Holloway]

But you're bringing up Kenny. My man, Kenny G is so smooth. Kenny Golladay is a borderline wide receiver. 1. In my opinion, he's the number one wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

I'm just using this to calm down. I had Jarvis bringing bad vibes.

[Andy Holloway]

The Kenny G vibes are so smooth.

[Mike Wright]

I just need it. I needed. I feel better now.

[Andy Holloway]

Good.

[Mike Wright]

Now I have to read about Antonio calloway. Goodness gracious. Two catches on 10 targets. This is why I said sit him until he proves something. Landry and callaway combined for 20 targets. I'm sorry. For 19 targets that ended up in 20 total yards and four catches. That's a Baker problem.

[Andy Holloway]

It is.

[Mike Wright]

That's a Baker problem.

[Andy Holloway]

Like I said, it's been really, really rough for Baker.

[Mike Wright]

Okay, tell me who you're most concerned about. About these other Duds.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Corey Davis, Stefan Diggs, John Brown, Will Fuller, and then I guess I'll throw Brandon Cooks in there. Only 2 for 53. Who I'm actually Watkins.

[Andy Holloway]

The guy I'm actually concerned about out of that list would just be Corey Davis. I would. After the breakout game for Corey Davis, I really thought we were turning, turning the corner. And then Marcus Mariota grabbed me on the shoulder, said, nah, not so fast, my friend.

[Mike Wright]

Watch me bang this football off of one of my receivers helmets. Watch this.

[Andy Holloway]

But he would be the most concerning Diggs. It happens. A bad game from Diggs, they pop up.

[Mike Wright]

They never happen when I'm playing Diggs.

[Andy Holloway]

Fair enough. Fair enough.

[Mike Wright]

Bitter. He killed me earlier. Just one for nine for Diggs. Sammy Watkins, just an off game.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, that. He is absolutely perplexing that in a game where your offense scores 40 points that you're only showing up for four targets, two for 18. He is, he's a wide receiver. Three with upside. So yes, you can still play him, you can play him against the Bengals, but hopefully you are not counting on him as a, as a core piece of your fantasy offense right now.

[Mike Wright]

Keelan Cole, five targets, just four catches. Had a fumble. You know, Dante Moncrief got fully goosed. I believe Westbrook had the touchdown catch.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Mike Wright]

But it's a mess there. We've talked about the I. Look, Robbie Anderson, this is what, this is why I said you can't play him three for 39. You can't chase the points with some of these guys. You can't chase Cole Beasley's points on the road against Washington next week. I don't think you can chase Tyrell Williams and his too long touchdown. You know, it could be Mike Williams next week, it could be Austin Ekeler next week who didn't score. So just use some discernment. Go sign Jermaine Curse. Go sign somebody with targets.

[Andy Holloway]

But even with, with Pryor out or struggling with the groin, we don't know if he's out. Quincy's injury, I mean, does that elevate Robbie at all? Just. He's necessary now.

[Mike Wright]

We'll see what the Terrell Pryor outcome is.

[Andy Holloway]

All right?

[Mike Wright]

But yes, look, injury provides opportunity. Sure, I'm with you there. And then Kenny Stills, is he dead to you, Mike? One catch, 35 yards.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's just a, he's just a flyer.

[Mike Wright]

Jared Cook 2 for 10. Kyle Rudolph 4 for 37. Jordan Reed 5 for 36.

[Andy Holloway]

Jared Cook is his returns.

[Mike Wright]

Jared Cook. Look again, I mean, these players, it's a very simple connect the dots that lead back to Marcus Mariota, to Derek Carr, to Baker Mayfield. Right. Most of our duds today, it's a team effort to poop their pants. I mean, there are big drawers being filled by all the players on these rosters. So I hope you had a good week. I hope you didn't face Stephen Goskowski. Oh, and his way our league, he.

[Andy Holloway]

Was like 20 fantasy band kickers.

[Mike Wright]

Goodness gracious. Brooks, how'd your weeks go? Not too bad. I mean, how'd your week go? Jason needs a big night from Devonte Adams to take me out in Dynasty. So we'll see how big. I think I have a 10, 15 point lead on him. I have Kittle, he has Adams. Now, I had to remind Brooks there was a. There was a team in our league yesterday. Now, Brooks played an average score is what, 120, 130 in our diet.

[Andy Holloway]

In our dynasty league, the average score, 110. 110 to 120. Sure.

[Mike Wright]

Brooks scored 165 points two weeks ago and lost to somebody with 175. Just. I mean, 165 is unheard of by anybody but me, obviously.

[Andy Holloway]

Of course.

[Mike Wright]

And then there was a team this week that scored 44 points. Yeah, there was a friend of yours, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

You want to put him on blast?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, his team didn't come through. I was. I wanted to point out a team that I played against. The team with Carlos Hyde, Royce Freeman, Jarvis Landry, Will Fuller.

[Mike Wright]

That's who you played against?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

In money league or what?

[Andy Holloway]

In my money league. I mean, there was. There was the right concoction, there was the right cocktail for certain teams that everyone just feces everywhere.

[Mike Wright]

You see, that's new.

[Andy Holloway]

I made a new verb that.

[Mike Wright]

That's when you. When Christmas comes around and you open the presents, there will be a little note in there that says week six. Yeah, that was the gift. I mean, sometimes you just end up playing against nobody.

[Andy Holloway]

It happens. Hey, check out draft.comballers for all your daily fantasy needs. We will see you tomorrow for the waivers show.

[Mike Wright]

Jason will be back.

[Andy Holloway]

Goodbye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.