Fantasy Football - Week 6 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Nasty Boys - Podcast for 10/7

Summary

Fantasy Footballers - Week 6 Waivers + Full Stream Ahead, Nasty Boys

Episode Date: October 7, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Episode Overview

The Fantasy Footballers dive into Week 6 waiver wire pickups, analyze the fallout from recent NFL injuries, and arm listeners with actionable streaming options at quarterback, tight end, and defense. The trio delivers their signature mix of astute analysis and playful banter while reminding fantasy managers: the season is far from over, and now is the time to capitalize on emerging trends, new data, and value on the wire.

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Main Themes

• Don’t Panic: Plenty of Season Left
  The hosts emphasize not giving up if your fantasy team is struggling after five weeks, asserting that with two-thirds of the season remaining, major turnarounds are possible.
• Injury Fallout and Waiver Wire Strategy
  Big-name injuries and depth chart changes shake up backfields and receiving corps, creating new waiver opportunities.
• Real Talk on Start/Sit and Trade Decisions
  The crew debates risky trade scenarios and which players are worth holding, cutting, or acquiring based on rest-of-season outlook.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

0. Staying in the Fight: Perspective on Early Season Struggles

• Emotional Toll of Fantasy Football:
  “There's so much weight put into the first part of the season in terms of the emotional impact...But yeah, we're not that far into the season. There's a lot of football left to be played.” — Andy (05:00)
• Stories surface of teams starting poorly (e.g., 0-4 or 1-4) yet rallying to championships.

1. Recent NFL Action & Recaps

• Jacksonville vs. Kansas City MNF Recap:

  • Trevor Lawrence's unusual double-fall-down rushing TD dissected (11:42).
  • Controversial PI call criticized; Andy calls it “the worst call I've seen so far this year.” (09:26).

• Cardinals’ Unique Misery:

  • Only NFL team to lose three consecutive games on walk-off field goals; Jason jokes, “Excellent, the plan is working.” (10:19)
  • Lighthearted Titanic fan debate leads to: “You either go down with the ship or you don't switch teams. That's all I'm saying.” — Andy (37:54)

2. Coaching Decisions on Discipline & Player Usage

• Rant on punishment-through-benching: “Discipline them some other way. Make them carry your luggage...If they can help you win, they should play.” — Andy (07:41)
• Discussion on situational usage (e.g., Trayvon Henderson potentially relegated to more return work).

3. Week 6 Waiver Wire Priorities

Running Backs

• Michael Carter (Cardinals):
  “Michael Carter is my number one by a lot...played way more snaps, got five targets.” — Jason (23:45)

• Chargers Backfield:

  • Hassan Haskins and Kamani Vidal discussed as speculative adds; neither excites the hosts, but opportunity is king.
  • “I will say that neither one of those players are very good...maybe this is put the ball in...Justin Herbert's hands more.” — Mike (28:53)

• Kareem Hunt (Browns): Two TDs but skepticism about his ceiling.

• Stash Discussion:

  • Kendre Miller (Saints), Burchard Smith (Chiefs), and others mentioned as low-priority stashes.
  • Day 2/3 rookie RBs historically slow to break out (33:14).

• Drop Candidates:
  RJ Harvey (no), Trayvon Henderson (no), Woody Marks (no), Isaiah Pacheco (maybe), Kareem Hunt (maybe).

Wide Receivers

• Spot Starts and Depth Adds:

  • Kendrick Bourne (SF): Huge week, but Jauan Jennings’ return is looming.
  • Romeo Doubs (GB): “Spot start category, a great Cincinnati, Arizona—the next two weeks.” — Andy (36:44)
  • Ryan Flournoy (DAL): “If I could pick another team, it would be freaking Tampa Bay and Baker Mayfield for sure. Between him and Abuka…” — Andy (38:24)
  • Tyquan Thornton (KC): Quietly productive.

• Trend:
  No slam-dunk weekly starters on waivers; most pickups are band-aids or stash-and-wait.

• Drop/Hold Candidates:
  Jerry Jeudy (hold one more week), Jameson Williams (hold), Keon Coleman (drop for high-priority RBs only).

Tight Ends

• Mason Taylor (CHI):
  “Last week we told you pick up Mason Taylor—this week, 12 targets. Nine catches, 67 yards. He was targeted so much.” — Andy (45:31)
• Jake Tonjes (SF): Viable streamer amid 49ers injuries. “Probably play Tonjas because he's got a better chance of scoring...because he's got a quarterback, a real quarterback.” — Andy (47:55)
• Theo Johnson (BUF) & A.J. Barner (MIN): Both getting red zone looks, worth speculating as weekly dart throws.
• General Strategy:
  “If you're doing the thing where you're playing Juwan Johnson one week or Zach Ertz one week or Mark Andrews one week...Mason Taylor and Theo Johnson should be picked up as a second tight end in hopes they develop.” — Mike (51:03)

Quarterbacks (Full Stream Ahead)

• San Francisco 49ers QB (Whoever Starts): Best streamer versus a banged-up Tampa Bay.
• Matthew Stafford (LAR):
  “He’s leading the entire NFL in passing yards right now...He gets the Baltimore matchup we just saw C.J. Stroud go ham.” — Mike (53:34)
• Bryce Young (CAR): Facing DAL—defense is vulnerable vs QBs; “If you need to get a little bit nasty...go with Bryce Young.” — Jason (54:11)

Defenses

• Pittsburgh Steelers: Facing rookie Dillon Gabriel (CLE).
• Vegas Raiders: “Perfectly fine with the Raiders. Going to put pressure on Cam [Ward] all day long.” — Andy (52:22)
• Green Bay Packers: As a plug-and-play if dropped due to bye.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Not Punishing Talented Players with Benching:
  “Discipline them some other way...That doesn't help your ballclub. I thought this was actually quite ridiculous…” — Andy (07:41)

• On Jamar Chase Trade Dilemma:
  “I think that there is an opportunity potentially to trade Chase.” — Andy (17:07)
  “Jake Browning is awesome for Jamar Chase...But if they make that change...it's Brett 'ripping farts.' That will not go well.” — Mike (18:04)

• On Waiver RB Confidence:
  “Michael Carter is my number one by a lot...I know he's the guy.” — Jason (23:45)

• On Rookie RB Patience:
  “Rookies that have shown a little bit—they might get opportunity as the season goes along. You don't want those guys on waivers.” — Mike (32:52)
  “Bucky Irving at this point had one 12-point game through his first five weeks...” — Andy (34:20)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:05 – Season perspective: “Don’t give up yet”
• 11:10 – Cardinals coaching woes/play-calling recap
• 13:01 – Mahomes, Stafford, and Herbert: trade and waiver thoughts
• 14:58 – News & notes: Amari Hampton IR, McLaurin optimism, Christian Watson activation window
• 22:43 – Running Back waivers (Carter, Haskins, Vidal Sassoon, Chargers/Cardinals breakdown)
• 35:08 – Wide Receiver waivers: Spot starts and speculative adds
• 45:18 – Tight End streamers and debate (Taylor, Tonjes, etc.)
• 51:33 – Defense streamers (Steelers, Raiders, Packers)
• 53:01 – QB streamers (Stafford, Bryce Young, SF QB situation)

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Tone & Style

• Knowledgeable but lighthearted, with typical “Footballers” banter:
  • “Would you rather be Jack or Rose?”
  • Nicknames abound: “Tonjas McBasketball,” “Vidal Sassoon,” and playful riffs about cats on planes and the Titanic.
• Critical yet optimistic—encouraging fantasy managers to keep grinding.
• Candid about the limitations of certain waiver pickups—“No slam-dunk names,” but opportunity can trump talent.

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Bottom Line for Week 6

• Be proactive on the waiver wire, especially in chaotic backfields like Arizona and LA Chargers.
• Target spot-starters at receiver, but real league-changing options may require patience.
• Stream quarterbacks and defenses against turnover-prone or rookie-led offenses.
• Hold onto highly-drafted rookies—breakouts often come mid/late-season.
• Don’t panic: There’s still time to overturn a slow start and win your league.

Stay tuned for tomorrow's episode, featuring a full redraft of the first two rounds and Thursday Night Football preview!

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Transcript

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

The Fantasy Footballer studio is sponsored by Walmart. Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore and Mike Wright.

[Andy Holloway]

Welcome in Tuesday, October 7th. Mike Wright, Jason Moore, Andy Holloway.

[Jason Moore]

Did I miss anything?

[Andy Holloway]

When do I get a day off?

[Mike Wright]

Dude, I am so happy.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like I need a day off of this stupid, ridiculous sport.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. So you missed the Cardinals game. You are, you are so lucky.

[Jason Moore]

I was at. If you didn't see my tweet. I was at a weekend punk festival. Punk music festival.

[Andy Holloway]

And we got punked as well.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I mean, Sunday, thank. I was able to take in like, you know, on Red Zone most of the morning games and then we get to the afternoon and my phone is just exploding. I mean, it's, it's you guys, it's my school buddies, it's my father and I'm like, what is going on? And we're. The service is real spotty out where the sword. I'm checking in, trying to figure out what's going on. I'm like, oh, oh, I see this, see this. But then I got to really see it.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it would have been, it would have been awesome if like you, you had seen like 21 to 3 in the fourth quarter and then you like just refreshed your phone. It says 2221.

[Jason Moore]

It was not having to live through it, having a great time while it's going on. The juxtaposition was, guys, I felt great. What a weekend.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah, it was good.

[Jason Moore]

Happy Tuesday Everybody, happy Tuesday.

[Andy Holloway]

We've got a pretty exciting Monday Night Football game to recap. We got a waiver wire show today. Going to get you up to date on who you need to pick up. If there's some big names that, you know, interest these gentlemen in front of me, I will say this. I looked at it this morning. We are five weeks in. There are nine weeks of regular season fantasy football left. That's nearly two thirds of the season. So before you get to playoffs, like.

[Mike Wright]

Most leagues, playoffs start in week 15.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

And we're only five weeks in. Yeah, we're one third of the regular season along and people start quitting. People, people in leagues, they, you know, they're two and three, let alone, you know, the zero and fives and they're like, oh, well, my season is over, it's done. And it has just not true. We have done this so long and we get so many messages. If I was 04, 03, 051 and 4. And then they make the playoffs and win a championship.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean you've seen it from just the injuries that have taken place in the first five weeks of the season. Powerhouse teams suddenly aren't powerhouse teams. Mike went into our dynasty league with darn well a super team.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Unbeatable Burrow and Chase Stack. CD Lamb has got no.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, goodbye, Derek Henry.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Derek Hen. I mean, what is the rest of season if you had to set a line on him? Rest of season finishing inside the top. What, what's the line?

[Jason Moore]

Tomorrow's show, we are doing a fantasy draft redo of the first two rounds. So we will find out if Derek Henry's in the first two rounds or not. Yeah, guessing probably not.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he probably. Yeah, we'll see.

[Mike Wright]

I'll bet he squeaks in there.

[Jason Moore]

Does he?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I mean we'll find out.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it'll be exciting, but it is just a good time. There's so much weight put into the first part of the season in terms of the emotional impact. Not that you'd ever witnessed that from this show where we're very level headed and we kind of just, we're above it all as I want to knock down the Chase statue in front of me. But yeah, we're not, we're not that far into the season. There's a lot of football left to be played and really the ability to make the best decisions is more enabled by the data we have now than we had ever, you know, earlier in the season. We have a stream finder tool. We have consistency charts. We have Ideas about defenses and kickers and offenses. And, you know, there's just so much more information we have now on how teams are using players good and bad. Right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Buka, pretty good. Trayvon Henderson, lots of questions.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, maybe better now, maybe, but.

[Andy Holloway]

But also maybe just a. A better laid trap could be. You know, that's. That's where we're at.

[Mike Wright]

It does feel like every week something happens or it's like it should be. I see how this is the week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, if I told you that Antonio Gibson would tear his ACL and Ramondre would fumble three times, including a goal line fumble, you'd be like Travion scoring 37 points a week. Now, the most recent comments are that they'd like to involve him in the return game. Did you see that?

[Jason Moore]

No. Ramon Dre.

[Andy Holloway]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah. Hendo was.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, the comments after the entry was like, what do you think about getting Trayvon Henderson more involved? And he said, yeah, I'd love to get him returned. Getting in the kick return game, I.

[Mike Wright]

Mean, it was, it was. It was more cool.

[Jason Moore]

Just the second round kick returner.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it was the fact that he said they had. They had three kick returns that were like one block away from being a huge one. And he wants one of those to. To. To break. He wants to get that going in the return game more. But obviously that is a big part of the team to them and it's so important. We. It does not matter what we think, what we feel. It really matters what the coaches believe. You know, we might think Ramon Dre Stevenson is not that guy and has an issue that will upset Mike Vrabel with fumbling, and clearly he has an issue with fumbling, and clearly it's not upsetting Mike Vrabel. Mike Vrabel gets to decide.

[Andy Holloway]

I will say this. To Mike Vrabel's credit, I think it is astonishingly stupid when head coaches punish players in a disciplinary fashion to the detriment of your team. Yeah, this happened like Jordan addison missing the first quarter. Yes. They pulled the game out, barely with 25 seconds left to go. How with Jordan Addison? But you take him off the field for a quarter, that doesn't help your. That doesn't help your ball club. I thought this was actually quite ridiculous with Indianapolis. It's an inexcusable mistake. You can say with AD&I. Mitchell. Also, the play AD&I. Mitchell made was unbelievable. It was such an outrageously good play. If you think this player can help you win.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Discipline them some other way. Make them carry your luggage. I don't care. Final, dude, that would be great if they can help you win.

[Mike Wright]

It's just labor, like your punishment. We're not fining you. We're not sitting you, we're not benching you. But you take out the garbage.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You're my butler for a week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you. You literally around the team facility, you're doing the socks. You. You do the. You do the laundry.

[Andy Holloway]

Because where do you draw the line? Like Jordan Addison, him not being out on the field in the first quarter almost cost him a ball game, in my opinion. So it's like.

[Jason Moore]

It didn't help.

[Andy Holloway]

It certainly didn't help. And then him, he won the game for him. It's just kind of ridiculous to me when you're punishing all the other players. That's my opinion. You're punishing everybody else on the team. And I understand.

[Mike Wright]

So, Amari, accountability. Do you help hurt the team?

[Andy Holloway]

It's that I want him. I just feel like Chick Fil a is a better place when he works there. Right. Do you know what I mean? He's good dude. He's personality.

[Mike Wright]

Great personality for Chick Fil A.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I mean, even D Markado, if you thought that he was a difference maker on your team, figure out a different way. I don't know. Players feel like they could be accountable. And Ramon Ray Stevenson, back to the point. Really, really helps the ball club. He just does. He's a much bigger back. He's a better goal line back.

[Jason Moore]

He helps. I mean, he helps everybody. Helps the other team sometimes.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you say every bun?

[Mike Wright]

Everybody?

[Jason Moore]

Did I say everybody? Everybody, Everybody I'm thinking about.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Rant over 31, Jacksonville 28, Kansas City and one proud of Jacksonville. Two would have been really upset if they had lost this game after that egregious pass interference call. That was a free touchdown for Kansas City. That was the worst call I've seen so far this year. Because it was in. I mean, it was so plainly visible and. Right. Leading to an intercession. You don't agree?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no. I'm just laughing.

[Mike Wright]

And now which one are you talking? Are you talking about. Are you talking about the one that Trevor Lawrence threw or the one where there was the pick play on the Kansas City touchdown?

[Andy Holloway]

No, I'm talking about when Trevor Lawrence was at his own 20.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

And then the route he's running and the guy literally truck sticks the receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And it goes directly to Kansas City. It was just the most. To me, that was like, oh, great, Kansas City is doing it again. But now they have lost, you know, their own three and one score games. Now the one score 11 and owned them.

[Mike Wright]

And the Cardinals, you know, both two.

[Jason Moore]

And three one score games, man gets you because it over inflates your confidence of how great your team is now.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if you're aware, Mike, because you missed, you lucky dog. The Cardinals are the only team in the history of the National Football League to lose on three consecutive game winning field goals.

[Jason Moore]

Good.

[Andy Holloway]

Nobody's ever done it.

[Jason Moore]

Excellent. Excellent. The plan is working, guys. The plan.

[Andy Holloway]

What is the plan? Misery.

[Jason Moore]

Everyone to the Sun.

[Andy Holloway]

Kyler too.

[Jason Moore]

Everyone, Marv, everyone.

[Andy Holloway]

We didn't get any Mike, on yesterday's show. Here's an interesting thing from this game. One, you know, like I said, shout out to Jacksonville the 4 and 1.

[Jason Moore]

Did you. Did you hear the clip of Jonathan Gannon saying that no one liked a particular play call?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And they were like, yeah, we just didn't call timeout. Also, I would, I would have just let the play happen into the sun, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Jonathan Gannon was like, he's like, I don't, I didn't like the play call. And then they're like, well, would you ever override him? He goes, no, I don't override him. He's my play caller. It's like, it's like we don't know who's doing this.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

And they, they also said trying to find the guy. So you're. Jason, you were criticizing Kyler yesterday about not checking out. You said other quarterbacks would have checked out. They came out and said verbatim, he had no ability to check out of that play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, that's smart.

[Jason Moore]

No, that's great. There's. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

We were, we were all stuck with the play, the quarterback, the play caller.

[Mike Wright]

And the head coach. So we let the defense know what we were doing. We said, hey guys, we're gonna run up the middle. And then we were like, but we can't.

[Jason Moore]

Nothing could be done. Nothing could be done.

[Andy Holloway]

You could run a who with the staff from the Cardinals.

[Jason Moore]

That's what you could do. Nothing could be done, guys.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Trevor Lawrence threw for a touchdown, ran for two. The last one was the most hilarious touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

A double fall down.

[Andy Holloway]

A double fall down. It was like his shoes are tied together.

[Mike Wright]

He got scored. He got stepped on on the snap. And then fell down, got up, fell down, got up and then scored a touchdown. You guys see Chris Jones on that one?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know if he was hurt or cramped or something.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to hope so. Chris Jones is standing there doing nothing. He thought the play was over from the jump.

[Mike Wright]

I think he really did. I think he thought when Trevor Lawrence fell down, the guys that were near him were going to tackle him. So he didn't do anything. He's just standing straight up. And then it's like as the play happened, like, if he had stayed involved, he could have absolutely stopped that play from happening, but he did not.

[Andy Holloway]

Jason won in our matchup between he and I exclusively by a 44 yard catch by Travis Hunter. That 44 yard catch was the differential. That was a great victory.

[Mike Wright]

How do you feel? Terrible now. Terrible about the Travis Hunter for Woody Marks trade that we did last week. Bad, I believe. If we. If we didn't make that trade, oh.

[Andy Holloway]

I win by so many points. Not because I played Travis Hunter, he would have been on my bench, but because I would have played Jakori, Krasky, Merritt.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

In which case, yeah, I would have. I mean, we can't have a show anymore. All right. Patrick Mahomes, though, like, is Mahomes. Mahomes and Matthew Stafford are the two quarterbacks that I'm interested in talking about in terms of, like, everyone thought they had something with Justin Herbert after one week. He's been actually quite terrible since then. I think I. Yesterday I said on the show, Mike, he's on pace for like 3,600 yards and 21 touchdowns and 17 picks. The offensive line being the culprit there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's a problem.

[Andy Holloway]

But Mahomes has been very good for fantasy. Matthew Stafford has gotten. Has become very good for fantasy. Both of those guys are really on the radar for me on a waiver show.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Trade candidates.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I don't know that Mahomes would be out on waivers. Stafford. We'll talk about him later on this episode. But the secret sauce with Mahomes is the rushing. I mean, he has been. He has three games this year where he basically has 60 rushing yards. That is an outrageous number. And I worry that when Rushy Rice comes back, like, that goes away a little bit because right now it's like he doesn't really have.

[Andy Holloway]

I feel like it's more a result of the running game being so bad maybe. I mean, I feel like. I mean, he's their leading rush on the season. You know this.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's on pace for 650 rushing yards. Something right around there.

[Andy Holloway]

Tyquan Thornton, 3 for 90. Travis Kelsey, 7 for 61 and a touchdown. Xavier Worthy, 6 for 42. He did play Brian Thomas Jr. 4 for 80. Not into the end zone. Travis Hunter, 3 for 64 was nice to see. And the touchdown pass was caught by Parker Washington. Britain Strange got hurt in this game.

[Jason Moore]

So we got Munt.

[Mike Wright]

Johnny.

[Andy Holloway]

Johnny Munt took over. But that was your, that was your Monday Night Football game. And it was a good one.

[Jason Moore]

It was. It was a fun one.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, moving on.

[Mike Wright]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, Amari and Hampton. This was the big news yesterday. Not good. Placed on IR with an ankle injury out at least four weeks. It's a waiver show. Welcome to our weekly backup running back discussion. Based on history, you should play all of them.

[Mike Wright]

Hampton is quite the roller coaster of the season. You know, came out, looked like he was going to be great. The Najee injury with the eye, and then it was like, ok, so Marion's going to be the guy. And then Najee was active and got really involved. It's like, okay, so Amarian's going to really be split. And then Najee got injured. It's like, hey, I've got a Marian. That's all. And then Amari got injured.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a wild ride when they lost two straight games. They don't look great right now.

[Mike Wright]

Their offensive line is gone, so Hampton's.

[Andy Holloway]

On IR for at least four weeks. Commander's head coach Dan Quinn said he's optimistic about Terry McClaurin for week six. Okay, so that's good news for the commanders who really, I mean, they just buckled down in that game and shut down the chargers. It was 10, nothing. And then all of a sudden it was 2710 and it was just, it was over. Christian Watson returning or designated to return from injured reserve.

[Mike Wright]

He'll have 21 days to be activated. Honestly, I feel like they really could use him. You know, whether you pick him up now or not, you might, you might have to. Because I think people in a lot of leagues will be picking him up. But I would imagine the expectation is he's not going to play for two weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I would think they'll, they'll use more of the 21 day window. It's, I mean, that's, I think that's more interesting for Jordan Love, who has, yeah, definitely it's been okay, you know, over the season, but if you put Watson on that team and he can really stretch the field, it becomes very intriguing down the, down the stretch here.

[Andy Holloway]

I mentioned yesterday Zach Taylor said they are going to evaluate Jake Browning and whether he's going to start in week six. Jason said he thought he'd start. I. They may not have another choice. It's just the turnovers have been outrageous. I think that there is a line of thinking here at this juncture.

[Jason Moore]

To.

[Andy Holloway]

Sell high on Jamar Chase after last week. It's not that you can't get those games, is that they won't be reliable, and if Jake Browning stays the quarterback, they won't be reliable. If they change quarterbacks, it could actually get worse. So I think that there is an opportunity potentially to trade Chase.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with it.

[Andy Holloway]

On a double touchdown. Garbage time.

[Jason Moore]

Game starting Jamar. Every conversation this year of Jamar Chase is like, who would you play over him? And it'll be risky because it's either you'll get just nothingness, or you do have the potential for, like, what that is this week. Because he's Jamar Chase.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Jake Browning is. This might sound ridiculous, but Jake Browning is awesome for Jamar Chase. I mean, obviously he's not Joe Burrow. But by comparison of if they keep losing, which they probably will, they've got a tough schedule the next couple of weeks. Still, if they make that change, you guys realize who the current backup is on the depth chart.

[Jason Moore]

I see it.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's Brett ripping farts. That will not go well.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know what. They're stuck.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Jamar Chase has two weeks this season where he was absolutely dominant. But his three games with Jake Browning, you know, 5 for 55 for 23, and then last week, 6 for 110. But the first three quarters of the game were awful.

[Mike Wright]

Would you trade Jamar Chase for Devonte Adams?

[Andy Holloway]

Like I said, I would consider trading Jamar Chase.

[Mike Wright]

I think I would do it, but.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know if I do that.

[Mike Wright]

I would do it, I think, for Devonte Adams.

[Andy Holloway]

I think I'm actually no on that one, and I want to say yes.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. George Pickens.

[Andy Holloway]

Boy, I guess it's harder to trade Jamar Chase than I thought it was.

[Mike Wright]

It's really hard to let go.

[Andy Holloway]

That's probably what you.

[Mike Wright]

So beautiful.

[Andy Holloway]

That's what you'd have to do, probably. And I don't know if the Pickens manager does it, but maybe you leverage the return of CD Lamb to do it. So. Yeah. What? Papa Josh, you traded Chase for Quentin Johnston.

[Mike Wright]

I did.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would have done it, too.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I think that could still be fine for you. It's just a tough week. Kyler Murray's foot will be monitored throughout the week. Says Jonathan Gannon. He actually left that game to go to the locker room for a second and came back and I think he'll play, but he might not. And if he doesn't, Jacoby Brissette, Snoop Huntley.

[Mike Wright]

Where's the beef?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

We don't get a lot of Jacoby Brissette talk on this show. There it is.

[Andy Holloway]

With the start, Snoop Huntley might be the starter for Baltimore.

[Jason Moore]

Whoop. Okay. See you, Cooper.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, Cooper Rush, you know, Lamar Jackson. If he can't play, it might be Snoop Huntley. Antonio Gibson out for the year with the torn acl. It's a bummer. Tyrone Tracy, limited. He may be back this week. I was a little bummed at the production from Cam last week. Scatter.

[Jason Moore]

Boo.

[Mike Wright]

Did you see his block?

[Andy Holloway]

His block was amazing. He pancaked alignment.

[Mike Wright]

That dude is. There's something wrong with him.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes, I agree.

[Mike Wright]

In the best block.

[Andy Holloway]

He's a crane eater.

[Mike Wright]

He found he's a cranny sport.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he did find his sport. Did you eat paint chips as a kid?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, yeah, he definitely did.

[Andy Holloway]

Saquon Barkley did not practice on Monday.

[Jason Moore]

They estimated.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, because they play Thursday. Every report I've seen is that he's just general soreness and going to play on Thursday. So I think they play. They play the Giants on Thursday Night Football. But you got to monitor that. Could always toss somebody on your bench. We'll talk about who it might be. And that was news and notes sponsored by Progressive Insurance. Quote [e-mail], progressive Casualty Insurance Company affiliates and third party insurers. Not available in all states or situations coverage subject policy terms, limits and conditions. We'll take a break. We'll talk waivers. Thursday Night Football is on and it's only on Prime Video. Join Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreet and Kaylee Hartong this Thursday as the Philadelphia Eagles take on the New York Giants. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with Football's Best Party TNF tonight presented by Verizon. Not a Prime member? Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. It's the Eagles and the giants Thursday at 7pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

While we get the Bears, Falcons, packers and Steelers back from the buy this week.

[Jason Moore]

My sweet sweet bijon.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah you welcome back. You still scored the most in our league. The Texans did you really? And the Vikings they're gumming. Go on by. Yeah, he did it while complaining the whole week too.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I thought he must have had a terrible week based on messages I.

[Andy Holloway]

Did based on all the complaining I assumed he didn't score the most in the league. The Texans you won't have to choose Woody Marks, Nick Chubb this week they're going on by the Vikings. You lose Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison and company going on by no Jordan Mason. But those are the only two teams on weeks on the week six by so it's a little bit more manageable. We're going to dig into the running back position to kick things off. Amazingly the two touchdown cream hunt still just 33% rostered in leagues. Michael Carter 59% rostered and then we can talk about the Chargers backfield. But those three situations seem to be the leaders in the clubhouse for running back.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Michael Carter is my number one by a lot. D. Markado kind of got the the spotlight because of the play but it's like Carter played way more, way more way way more snaps, got five targets and so he's, he's at the top of of my list because I think that, that, that you should sticks and what if they, what if they want to punish D. Markado?

[Mike Wright]

Well, Gannon already came out and said that they will have no punishment for him, you know.

[Andy Holloway]

Did he really?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he did. He came out and said there, there will be no punishment for him. He came out and apologized for how he treated him on the sideline.

[Andy Holloway]

It was unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

Yelled in his face, hit him a couple times. And then he came out and apologized, said, that's not how he wants to act. He wants to be more level headed, like Dimar. And then he says, destroyed there.

[Jason Moore]

And you just went and got in his face. Like, I don't know. I don't know what helped.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think football fans are happy in any situation.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there's. There is no right answer here. Because honestly, part of me wants you to take D. Markado, yell at him on the sideline and say, please go to the locker room, pack your bags. You are not no longer an Arizona Cardinal. And then part of you wants to be like, hey, you got to build your players up. You got to do the right thing and not hurt your team out of anger. And he decided to do neither and both. So he's like, I'm so angry, I hate you. I'm just kidding, baby. You're fine. You're not going to be punished at all. He's probably the starter now. Michael Carter probably doesn't touch the ball.

[Andy Holloway]

Overcompensate.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's just over hitting him. That's my guess because Gannon doesn't know.

[Jason Moore]

What he's like, don't sue me.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, so much of it depends, dude, it was not assault. Look, you got the star wearing pads.

[Andy Holloway]

So much of it has to do how the player reacts to it too. And we don't know that. That's all behind closed doors. You know what I mean? What is Amari Diamarcado's attitude about what happened? And I know my attitude.

[Mike Wright]

He's moving on. Personally, I. So you've got Trey Benson who is on the ir. His seems like it will be longer than four weeks, but, you know, eligible to return in four weeks. So maybe that pushes Carter ahead. But the Amari and Hampton, obviously. Trey Benson has already been one week into the ir. The situation with the Chargers, I feel like the Chargers are still a better offense, a better team, even though they've been struggling and they have the O line issues. They are a better team, a better offense and have a better quarterback. And so that situation is very similar to the Cardinals with Hassan Haskins and Kamani Vidal Sassoon. But I think I want Haskins more than Carter.

[Jason Moore]

Really?

[Andy Holloway]

You're.

[Jason Moore]

That you're that confident that Haskins is the guy? I am not.

[Mike Wright]

So when you watch, when you watch the game live with the Chargers, what you saw was towards the end of the game, Hampton got injured Wasn't able to make it back. And then it was Vidal Sassoon getting the work. But when you actually look at how the game flow went, Hassan Haskins was involved early. Hassan Haskins was the backup.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

And then later in the game, I mean, they. They literally. It was Trey Lance out there.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. They had pulled everybody.

[Mike Wright]

That was when Vidal Sassoon was playing. So I think it's definitely Haskins as the starter.

[Andy Holloway]

Sure.

[Jason Moore]

My counter to that would be literally Michael Carter, who was not active for the Arizona Cardinals. D. Markado was the. Was the backup and then he remained the backup. That's where I'm saying of. Michael Carter is by far my number one because I know he's the guy.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Where the Chargers situation is at Haskins, do they. Or like, do they go the Tampa Bay route where we thought Sean Tucker might get more play, but they went all to Rashad White?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think either of those players is good enough for it to be just them.

[Jason Moore]

Well, yeah, yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

It'll be the biggest issue I have figuring out like I'm Carter by so much.

[Mike Wright]

Well, Carter's not over either. Gonna be all just him either. I mean, DeMarcado will be.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, we've already seen it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, Michael Carter was. Got all but seven touches in the entire game.

[Jason Moore]

I think 15 carries with targets is the recipe for Carter.

[Andy Holloway]

It was 18. Oh, you're saying.

[Jason Moore]

I'm saying like a baseline.

[Andy Holloway]

I think Vidal is the better player than Haskins and we have seen he.

[Jason Moore]

Did run better than that game.

[Andy Holloway]

That's the problem is it's like they're not just going to play Haskins out of some. Some loyalty or depth chart. They're just going to play the player that plays the best. And I have a hard time investing enough Fab in that situation personally. But Jason has conviction around Haskins and.

[Jason Moore]

I don't think it's wrong, Jay, to be like what we saw on Sunday leans to Haskins and that's how I would lean my priority and my fab. But I don't feel real confident that it won't end up being Vidal.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I will say that neither one of those players are very good. And the offensive line now with the injuries does not look good. It's just a matter of still scoring opportunities. I will say this. The Cardinals around the red zone over the last couple of years, they have been. They rush the touchdowns in and we've seen it. Whether it was D. Markado, whether it was Michael Carter, Benson Conner of old.

[Andy Holloway]

Bam Knight last Week, bam.

[Mike Wright]

Knight got one. And so you know how many touchdowns each team scores. I feel like the Chargers will score more. But maybe it just, maybe this is put the ball in, you know, the hands of Justin Herbert more and the running game doesn't. Doesn't work. Maybe you swayed me to the Michael Carter side.

[Andy Holloway]

My order would be Carter Hunt and then I probably would take the lower fab. I would go low fab on both of the Charger guys personally and just try to see whoever ends up on my team as a dart throw. Outside of that, pay attention to the snap counts. Going up for Kendra Miller. They've gone up five consecutive weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

If they were to trade. I know you guys don't think it's likely.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I just. Not to Arizona, but I think there's a chance that. Come here does.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, to me it's like you also defer to the veteran that wants to. Like if your season's lost and the veteran wants to go and he's paid his dues, there's a chance he asks to go do that. Yeah, you know, it didn't work out for Sean Tucker this week. I don't think it's going to work out for Sean Tucker at this point with such a limited role. They just didn't give him very much work at all.

[Jason Moore]

It was disappointing.

[Andy Holloway]

Pay attention to Burchard Smith still, if the chart if the Chiefs want to keep getting him involved. But again, not a lot of work. Bayshaw, Tutin, not much going on there. Chris Rodriguez didn't get almost any work in this game, which Mike, we talked about it yesterday with JCM on the studs, but like he had not practiced JCM and not practiced two weeks ago that Rodriguez had played and then now it was the JCM breakout game.

[Mike Wright]

We expect that Saquon is fine, but it's worth noting like at least a little tiny discussion in case all of a sudden something gets worse as the week goes on. How do you order that back? Because right in the beginning of the season it was like, oh, Will Shipley looks like that guy. He looked great. Then he broke his ribs. They traded for Tank Bigsby and then A.J. donalds.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know that he ever actually broke his ribs. Like that might have just been an unconfirmed report. He came back way too soon.

[Mike Wright]

But like.

[Jason Moore]

And they called it an oblique.

[Mike Wright]

There's now three running backs there. How would you just order them? And I personally, if I'm going after these guys, it's like $0 bids.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah, I'm yes. And I don't. Because I don't think this is a high priority.

[Andy Holloway]

The problem is, is I think Tank Bigsby's had zero opportunities with this team, but he very much looks like the Michael Carter of the situation to me. Could be where if you traded significant capital for him, if an actual injury knocked Saquon out, not mid game, but for weeks, I think Bigsby gets the most work.

[Jason Moore]

He certainly could for this week. If I'm just trying to prepare for that emergency situation, I would put Dylan at the top, but I don't feel.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, this is great because I think I've got Shipley at the top. So we all pick one.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, this is a, this is more of a. I mean, like Michael Carter, if he still happens to be out there, is a great ad, but otherwise it's a lot of stashing of players.

[Andy Holloway]

The drop candidates at running back that people are asking about. Woody Marks goes on by.

[Jason Moore]

No, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Isaiah Pacheco with a couple of better weeks.

[Jason Moore]

He, him and Kareem Hunt. It's so tough because Pacheco is the one who's playing a lot. Kareem Hunt got the two touchdowns and had the.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably always will get the big touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

He probably will.

[Andy Holloway]

RJ Harvey.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no, no. Do not drop RJ Harvey. The if RJ Harvey was on waivers, I would pick him up.

[Jason Moore]

I would too.

[Andy Holloway]

But you wouldn't play him.

[Mike Wright]

No, I would not play him. J.K. dobbins looks excellent. He is the starter. R.J. harvey might be irrelevant the entire rest of the season, but this is a rookie with high draft capital who has looked fine in his opportunities. Amazingly, I can't even count over the course of the season how many have been called back. Like, if you look at his box score, it's like he didn't do anything. It's like, well, he did a lot.

[Andy Holloway]

Of things they said in college as college reporters. He needs a few holds to make a big play.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, well, he's good when they, when they hold, they just got to get the flags not going right. I wouldn't drop a rookie, Trayvon.

[Jason Moore]

No, I would not drop. Especially with Antonio Gibson. I know that Ramon Ray remains the guy, but they like to use multiple backs there.

[Mike Wright]

This was like last week. There was a lot of Bill Crosky drops and he was on our, you know, our Wednesday episode was my pick him up. Pick him up if he got dropped. Rookies that have shown a little bit, they might get opportunity as the season goes along. You don't want those guys on Waivers. You want them on your roster?

[Andy Holloway]

I. Kyle shared something. I'm trying to find it. Yeah. Do you have.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. So Kyle looked it up. Of the 52 running backs drafted in rounds two or three over the last decade, 46% of them failed to have a 12 point week within their first five games and 67% of them had just one or fewer.

[Andy Holloway]

So they don't all progress this fast. You know, Henry Mixon, Javante, Miles Sanders, James Cook, those were all names in that category. Day two, three, around two three running backs that had not broken out at this point.

[Jason Moore]

And I mean, it's like there are scenarios. Jason's right there. There is a scenario where Harvey ends up not working out at all. And that will be a big time bummer because he looks like he has juice, but it's like Nick Chubb was drafted in the second round, did nothing for eight or nine weeks and then they traded Carlos Hyde and then Nick Chubb was a league winning running back. It's just the.

[Andy Holloway]

Jacob has never been hurt before, right?

[Mike Wright]

No, he is. He's got two strong legs, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Both of those guys are. Just keep them on your roster, keep them tucked away in a safe space.

[Jason Moore]

Kyle pointing out at this point, Bucky had Bucky Irving of last year, league winning. Bucky Irving at this point had one 12 point game through his first five weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Again, not to say that they will become those things, but we don't have enough time to throw them away.

[Jason Moore]

Well, and if anyone's going to all of a sudden catch a hot streak to finish the season, it's these guys.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly.

[Jason Moore]

It's not a veteran who's been playing for four or five years.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Hassan Haskins has had his opportunities to kind of show he could do something special and he has shown he can't. Now he will have opportunity and opportunity can override that and be worthy of fantasy, you know, goodness, but not greatness. Greatness will come from these guys who have not yet earned their NFL opportunity and when they do, they show that they've got something special.

[Andy Holloway]

Wide receivers, we want to let you know. Jalen Coker, also eligible to return in week five. I don't know how much we care, but at least a little bit. A little bit, yeah. Christian Watson, eligible to return in week six. Jaden Reed, week eight. Cedric Tillman, week 10. Mike, I don't know if you saw, but Isaiah Bond had eight useless targets.

[Jason Moore]

I did, yeah. Those.

[Andy Holloway]

Cleveland, Cleveland.

[Jason Moore]

I did see a good amount of the Gabriel throws. If we want to call, are those.

[Andy Holloway]

Targets you're talking because they're short area.

[Jason Moore]

And just flying over people's heads.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, he had two touchdowns. Yeah, he was okay. He didn't turn the ball over. And they almost won. So. Hey, listen, there's a math equation. Every three Cleveland targets is one real target.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that's fine.

[Mike Wright]

Good.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, so it would. So targets matter if you get 30 of them. If you get 30.

[Mike Wright]

If you get 30.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, wide receiver pickups. Let's talk about some names that are out there. There are a few names that we've talked about repeatedly, week over week. Names that have been floating around like Trey Tucker and Troy Franklin that are just sitting there and they're just kind of, you know. You know, okay, you can add them, you can spot start them, but they haven't been consistent. But the bigger names, you had the huge week from Kendrick Bourne in San Francisco. I do want people to make sure that Juwan Jennings is not on waiver wires or have been cut because he will return to this team and will be more necessary than Kendrick Bourne. But he was targeted on almost 30% of his routes last week. Speaking of Kendrick Bourne, 142 yards. You can't ignore that. Romeo Dobbs is coming off of a bye week after his three touchdown game. Again, spot start category to me, a great Cincinnati Arizona.

[Jason Moore]

The next two weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of bye week guys get dropped. But let's talk about Ryan Flournoy, wide receiver for Dallas, 114 yard game. Dak is playing as good as any quarterback in football not named Baker Mayfield your freaking mvp.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I was going to say he would. He would. If the season was over today, he would be the mvp.

[Andy Holloway]

So, Jason, you made that. You made. You made the comment about, like, why do you do this to yourself? Why are you a fan of the Cardinals? I will and cannot ever abandon my team. I fundamentally don't believe in that. I think you got to.

[Jason Moore]

I'm with you, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

You got to go. You got to go down with the ship for the chance that you get pulled out.

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Because I want the glory. I want the glory Even if I'm 70 years old and I'll be like, I was a fan.

[Jason Moore]

You think if they. If they're good again, I'm not just jumping right back in.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, but. But I'll know that you were the.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, no. You'll feel real bad, Mike.

[Andy Holloway]

You'll feel so have no pride.

[Jason Moore]

No, it is pride. It is the pride in myself. If I was my money, my time.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys are on the Wrong end of this.

[Jason Moore]

My time. Your time is the most valuable thing in the entire world. And they are.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't have to watch it. You just can't switch teams. That's all I'm saying.

[Mike Wright]

Would you bet rather be Jack or Rose?

[Jason Moore]

Is this a Titanic?

[Mike Wright]

This is a Titanic thing. Because one of them. Yeah, one went down. Went down with the ship.

[Jason Moore]

The other one.

[Mike Wright]

The other one survived.

[Andy Holloway]

Jack.

[Mike Wright]

When she told the stories of how. Oh man, I was on that terrible thing. But she was an old lady.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't want to be on the Titanic at all.

[Mike Wright]

But that's where we were born. We were born in Arizona or close enough. That's where we live. We're on the Titanic.

[Andy Holloway]

All of this was to say if I could pick another team, it would be freaking Tampa Bay and Baker Mayfield for sure. Between him and Abuka, he's.

[Mike Wright]

They. They are everyone's favorite second place team right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Anyways.

[Jason Moore]

Like Flannoy name Ryan Flannoy is not very many of us are familiar with.

[Andy Holloway]

No 6 round pick in 2024. But it was kind of a breakout game for him. Nine targets. We've had enough Jalen Tolbert to know that he's not it exactly right. And then. And then Turpin. Turpin. Turpin got hurt and he got hurt, but it doesn't even matter. Turpin is very much a. He's a gadgetry special teams get the ball in his hands, maybe something happens.

[Jason Moore]

I think it matters in terms of snaps.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, no idea. Maybe not anymore.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe.

[Andy Holloway]

But who was the.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say we had a Dallas Cowboy years ago be the week one sensation.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I was thinking of Leviska Schnault in the same type of situation.

[Jason Moore]

Ogletree. Yeah, Ogletree for this team. For the Cowboys I think it was three touchdowns in week one. Did nothing else like is this a. Is this something to be chased go after? Is this a product of that.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think it's going to be long.

[Jason Moore]

Pickens is seeing sauce and so the jets are just not good.

[Andy Holloway]

Other than just a player you could tuck away for. No. Almost no.

[Mike Wright]

Fab. Yeah. I mean this to me is. I would rather have this be more of a spot start because CD Lamb is gone, Turpin is injured and Jalen Tolbert doesn't have it. So you've got Pickens and they need someone else. And so I think that's. That's where you know, he shined and you might get another week out of that. You know they're Playing Carolina, it's a fine matchup. I don't expect CD Lamb this week, but as soon as CD Lamb is back, like, he's not a stash to me. Because when Lamb is back, Lamb and Pickens are going to take the targets.

[Andy Holloway]

You did see three for 90 for Tyquan Thornton. He keeps kind of getting it done for Kansas City. Another spot start. There's not a big, like, ADD and play every week. Name, including Bourne, including Dobbs. I mean, Dobbs has never been that, so there isn't a name jumping out to me. Unless you see one.

[Mike Wright]

Dobbs might be. I mean, he is probably my number one pick, but honestly, Alec Pierce is maybe a name that should be talked about because he has the potential to have. Like, this is the type of player.

[Jason Moore]

I am completely with you, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

It's not, you know, oh, you've got to have him. But if you've got bye weeks, if you've got injuries and you're like, I have to start someone off of waivers. I have to actually put them not just on my roster, and that's who I get after. Fab. But I've got to find someone on waivers that I'm going to put in my lineup. Like, I've got Travis Hunter. I had to play Travis Hunter this week. I would much rather play Alec Pierce over Travis Hunter.

[Andy Holloway]

Alec Pierce coming off of an injury, though.

[Mike Wright]

It was a concussion.

[Jason Moore]

Concussion.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

So he's not. He's not dealing with. You know, you heard it here first.

[Andy Holloway]

Not considered an injury to these two gentlemen. No, no, no.

[Jason Moore]

It is a very serious injury, but.

[Andy Holloway]

It is not a.

[Jason Moore]

You'll be slow for two weeks. You will be full speed.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, yeah. Honestly, I'm just not wildly excited about the. The wide receivers. Isaiah Bond is getting the snaps and the targets, and he will for a long time. Cedric Tillman's not coming off the Bye. Or, sorry, off the injury list for at least. I mean, week 10 is the earliest. So Isaiah Bond will have a lot of opportunity and Jerry Judy's bad at football, so just pay attention there.

[Jason Moore]

He gets 30 targets.

[Mike Wright]

I would say the guy who probably, like I would start over. Alec Pierce, who I just made a case for, who's still available in the vast majority of leagues. You talked about him, but Tyquan Thornton is. He is. He is involved. They're playing the Lions this week. Like, that's going to be, you know, a lot of points. They've got a 51 point over under right now. And so will Patrick Mahomes have a bomb in this game probably one and it'll probably be Thornton.

[Andy Holloway]

All right. Drop candidates Matthew Golden. I would don't do that.

[Jason Moore]

I wouldn't do it. But Jerry Judy sure I would hold.

[Mike Wright]

On to him one more week.

[Andy Holloway]

You missed Alec IO manure.

[Jason Moore]

No, I heard it.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, did you heard it?

[Jason Moore]

It was a. That's a good.

[Andy Holloway]

You can drop them because Titans. Yeah. Jameson Williams. I still would not Keon Coleman.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, that's the only I I mean.

[Mike Wright]

Given I mean if he was out.

[Andy Holloway]

On the waiver wire compared to that list I'd pick up.

[Mike Wright]

Exactly. Given the list of wide receivers would I drop what if I Keon Coleman to pick up a Michael Carter?

[Jason Moore]

Oh yeah, sure.

[Mike Wright]

But I'm not dropping Keon Coleman for.

[Jason Moore]

All these Coleman 3 of 5 matchups of the year 26 or fewer receiving yards.

[Andy Holloway]

He is that team is a roulette. If you needed him to catch a bunch of passes like in week one, he'll do it.

[Jason Moore]

They needed I don't feel like passes last week.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I mean he did it. He caught a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So I mean look, I don't feel.

[Jason Moore]

Like he caught a touchdown. Still ended up with eight points.

[Andy Holloway]

You betcha.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Good lord. Seven targets and a touchdown. Oh, he had seven targets and a touchdown. Eight fantasy points.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean that nice was there other than Kincaid, I don't know if you're happy with a Buffalo Bill last week. All right, we'll take a break. We'll talk tight ends, defenses, quarterbacks.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

All right. George Kittle is eligible to return in week six. We don't yet know what's going on.

[Jason Moore]

Last time we heard was. It's not sounding. It was sounding great from the reporters and then Shanahan cold watered us.

[Andy Holloway]

Last week we told you pick up Mason Taylor this week, 12 targets.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Nine.

[Andy Holloway]

Nine catches, 67 yards. He was targeted so much.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

So it's a very good sign. With Justin Fields two weeks back with Justin Fields, two weeks of Mason Taylor emerging. They don't have other pass catches.

[Jason Moore]

Take your disgusting, cowardly kitty cat points.

[Andy Holloway]

There you go. He's the cowardly lion. Is that it?

[Jason Moore]

May be.

[Mike Wright]

If I was to have like, if.

[Andy Holloway]

You had your tight end group, you probably want Mason Taylor.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. The breakaway. You know, not everyone can be a George Kittle, you know, a Travis Kelsey in his prime.

[Jason Moore]

A dog.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Not everyone can do it. But at the, at that position, a Zach Ertz can get it done. You know what I mean?

[Andy Holloway]

You guys are so rude to Mason Taylor. This is a young, athletic, talented son.

[Mike Wright]

Of a Hall of Famer.

[Andy Holloway]

He's very talented.

[Mike Wright]

I'm trying to speak his praises here.

[Andy Holloway]

I think you said you just compared him to. Zach Ertz is not speak. ZACH Ertz is 400 years old. Mason Taylor's in his early 20s.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Remember always Zach Ertz was not always.

[Andy Holloway]

No, he wasn't always.

[Mike Wright]

He is a brilliant kitty cat. Like he's. He knows where to go. He is a pros pro. Zacher has always been Zach Ertz.

[Andy Holloway]

You're putting Mason Taylor in too small a box. That's all I'm saying.

[Mike Wright]

You're putting Zach Ertz a too small box. Zach Ertz was great.

[Andy Holloway]

No, Zach Ertz was outstanding. But he was. He was much more athletic and more capable of yards after the catch when he was younger.

[Jason Moore]

Box size. TBD for Mason Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, tbd. That's fine. You don't need to put it. I'm just saying he's. He's performing and doing the most he can do with what he gets from.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's doing the most he could.

[Andy Holloway]

Possibly his routes that he's Catching are sit down routes.

[Mike Wright]

My point is Zach Ertz.

[Jason Moore]

Stop talking about Zach Ertz.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, this.

[Jason Moore]

He was great.

[Mike Wright]

He was great. This is a guy who was like ten and a half a catch. Ten a catch. 10.4, 9.4 during those numbers. I just said tight end. 9, 6, 3, 2, 5. Like that's. That's how he profiles. He's smart, he knows where to go, he can get the targets, he's going to catch it. He doesn't have to break tackles or have a dog in him. That's all I'm saying.

[Jason Moore]

Do you want to play Mason Taylor this week or.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes.

[Jason Moore]

Jake Tonjas, MC basketball, who gets to take on Tampa Bay, 11 targets, 7 for 41. With the score this past week, I.

[Andy Holloway]

Probably play Tonjas because he's got a better chance of scoring.

[Jason Moore]

And why is that?

[Mike Wright]

Woof.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he's got a quarterback, a real quarterback.

[Mike Wright]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Andy Holloway]

Justin Fields sucks.

[Jason Moore]

Justin Fields is electric in the fourth quarter.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh my gosh.

[Jason Moore]

Just. Oh, that garbage.

[Mike Wright]

I want.

[Jason Moore]

It's so tasty.

[Mike Wright]

I want George Kittleback so bad. Jake. Jake Taunt.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, the jets game is in London.

[Mike Wright]

Tonjes McBasketball is the.

[Jason Moore]

What are the rules about transporting felines to overseas? You probably need certificates and everything.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you got to have proof of rabies shot. I think if you just give him Benadryl.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

He should be able to make the flight.

[Andy Holloway]

You normally need to have them quarantined for a while. You guys are psychos.

[Jason Moore]

He'll be down with the luggage. He'll be fine.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you know it's climate control? Did you know A.J. barnard has three top 10 weeks in five weeks?

[Jason Moore]

I did not realize that.

[Andy Holloway]

Did you know he had.

[Jason Moore]

I know he had the two touchdowns.

[Andy Holloway]

Seven catches last week on seven targets. That's he scored in three of four weeks.

[Jason Moore]

It's interesting.

[Mike Wright]

I was just about to say Tonjas McBasketball is the tight end 10 on the season right now. Barner, tight end, nine. They're getting it done. And I will say that if you want to talk quarterback, I am more confident in Sam Darnold than either of the San Francisco guys right now. Because while they're getting it done, Brock is injured and Mac is a weirdo.

[Andy Holloway]

He's played great. Juwan Johnson. People want to know if you can drop him. No, Taylor. I would drop him from Taylor if.

[Jason Moore]

You really need a tight end. But Joanne again playing the game. If Joanne were on the waiver wire right now, he would be a priority ad for me.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he Always has been for.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I would rather have Juwan than Mason Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

Johnson has not been.

[Mike Wright]

He had a couple of bad weeks in a row.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Not been good.

[Mike Wright]

But I believe that everyone we're talking about, including Mason Taylor, they're going to be kind of streaming spot starts. There's very few tight ends in the league that are just. You lock them in. Well, the target player. No, you don't care about Joanne Johnson in the beginning of the year. Neither one of those guys is getting 10 targets every single week.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Yeah, I like Mason Taylor more. Theo Johnson got into the end zone.

[Mike Wright]

Twice and they need him with Darius Slater.

[Andy Holloway]

But I don't. I think he's a scary, terrifying.

[Mike Wright]

He is a scary start.

[Andy Holloway]

He doesn't put any yards up.

[Mike Wright]

No, not at all. For being the most athletic tight end in history. He really doesn't do a lot with that athleticism. But the opportunity should be there. He still had seven targets.

[Jason Moore]

I mean Jackson dart games. Five targets. Seven targets and it hasn't turned into production.

[Mike Wright]

No neighbors. Well, it did this last week. Two touchdowns.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I meant yards. You know, Theo.

[Mike Wright]

I would throw Theo on my, on my bench.

[Jason Moore]

I'll take Mesa Taylor over. Do you want. And you probably go theo over Tonjas McBasketball. Just for long term.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, if you were looking long term.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

On a flyer.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't look long term at tight end unless it's like two or three names including Joanne Johnson. Like I, I'm just going to play the best player that week. Things are changing so quick.

[Mike Wright]

I would agree. But if you have, if you're doing the thing where you're playing Juwan Johnson one week or Zach Ertz one week or Mark Andrews one week. At that point I do think Mason Taylor and Theo Johnson, those guys should be picked up as a second tight end in hopes that they can in, you know, their, their early career, you know, rookie and a second year player develop into the number two target for their franchise defenses.

[Andy Holloway]

This week there's quite a few that have good, good matchups. The Patriots have the Saints in New Orleans. They're stashed them playing great. The Colts have the Cardinals at home. The Browns are actually Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has the Browns. That's the one that I'm more interested in. Although you can play both sides of it. I like the Pittsburgh side more. It's in Pittsburgh. Their defense has been outrageously good for two consecutive weeks and they get the face of rookie and Dylan Gabriel. They didn't move the ball tremendously well. They, they had what they scored two times.

[Jason Moore]

So saying it's a 37 and a half.

[Andy Holloway]

I like both sides, but I like. I like Pittsburgh way more.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, there's so many teams. The Rams had such a bad outing last week, but they go to Baltimore. That is Snoop. Yeah. Snoop Dogg.

[Andy Holloway]

You're going to do it again.

[Jason Moore]

Pro Bowl.

[Andy Holloway]

The Las Vegas Raiders play Tennessee, by the way, and they're going to put pressure on Cam or all day long.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with the Raiders.

[Andy Holloway]

So that would be another one. And then just keep an eye on your league. For the packers, if they were dropped on the buy because they play Cincinnati and they're favored by 175 points, I'll take. You're going to take the over?

[Jason Moore]

No, I'll let them cover.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Mike Wright]

Full stream ahead.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, this could be me this week. I don't know, depending on what Kyler Murray. He probably shouldn't be in my lineup anyways, but what happens with his foot? We'll see. Streaming quarterback options for the week. You need a spot start. There are some good ones out there. I think for me it's insert 49ers quarterback. I think the matchup against Tampa Bay and the fact that they can't run the football the way that they've been running it in the past. You've seen good fantasy weeks from Mac Jones, good ones from Brock Purdy. Whoever starts for San Francisco is my stream of the week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I'm going to go with Matthew Stafford. He's leading the entire NFL in passing yards right now. And he gets the Baltimore matchup that we just saw C.J. stroud go ham.

[Jason Moore]

Man, they have. I know their injuries. It's just.

[Mike Wright]

It's sad to see Stafford gets to play a college team, which right now it feels like you're just playing backups. It's pretty easy. You look at what they've given up on the season. They let Patrick Mahomes score three more points than his average. Stroud scored more than his average. Everyone who plays him has basically done well except for the Lions. And Stafford's been pretty on fire. I think the Devonte Adams around the goal line has really helped his fantasy output.

[Jason Moore]

And if you need to get a little bit nasty with your streaming quarterback Bryce Young is playing The Dallas Cowboys. And the Dallas Cowboys have been allowing lots and lots of points above expectation to opposing quarterbacks. And they are in fact dead last and expected points per pass attempt. And the, I mean, that Leggett, the Leggette throw and touchdown, I thought that was, that was legit. That was like a good play. And Ted Roll McMillan is, I think we're about to see, percolating. I think it's about to go off. If you want Tedro McMillan, you need to go do it before this weekend against the Dallas Cowboys. I think this will be the. Where the window closes on any sort of affordable offers.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it's been frustrating because he makes plays every week that are like, he.

[Mike Wright]

Looks so good, man.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he looks great. But then, you know, Bryce Young looks so bad so often and he does.

[Jason Moore]

He just.

[Andy Holloway]

He hasn't scored yet.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, he's going to get in the.

[Andy Holloway]

Zone at some point.

[Mike Wright]

It is really crazy. I mean, you talk about. It's not like Bryce Young has thrown no touchdowns, but he's on pace for 1200 yards and it doesn't have a touchdown right now.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say right now. Ted McMillan has six fewer yards than Devonte Adams. Like, he's 14th in the league right now at wide receiver. He's playing very, very well. Just needs some touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

14Th in yardage or what's.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, in yardage.

[Mike Wright]

I'm curious what his fantasy do you have? Tetaroa? Like, what points? Wide receiver? What, right now in the season?

[Jason Moore]

Just overall Raw points.

[Mike Wright]

Just like raw points.

[Jason Moore]

Is he in the top 27th?

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Well, that'll do it. For today's episode of the show. We are redrafting the first two rounds in Fantasy. Tomorrow we have a Thursday night preview. We've got backup options. We got Mailbag, and we'll get into all of that on tomorrow's episode of the podcast. Thank you for supporting the show. Head over to jointhefoot.com for access to the ultimate dashboard and all the other perks of being an official Foot clan member. That's jointhefoot.com we'll catch you tomorrow.

[Jason Moore]

Goodbye.

[Mike Wright]

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