Week 7 Matchups, Spot Starts + Wheel of Shame - Fantasy Football Podcast for 10/17

Summary

Fantasy Footballers Podcast Summary

Episode: Week 7 Matchups, Spot Starts + Wheel of Shame
Date: October 17, 2025
Hosts: Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, Mike "The Fantasy Hitman" Wright

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Episode Overview

This lively, expert-driven episode dives into the key fantasy football matchups for NFL Week 7, providing in-depth analysis, strategic advice on spot starts, vital injury updates, and a little in-person fantasy therapy after a wild Thursday night game. The hosts deliver their signature blend of real insight and humor, covering everything from the shocking Bengals-Steelers shootout to start/sit debates, streaming options, and the ever-entertaining “Wheel of Shame” punishment segment.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Thursday Night Football Recap: Bengals vs. Steelers

[01:27 - 11:11]

• Wild high score: Bengals beat Steelers 33-31.
• Joe Flacco resurgence: Threw for 342 yards and 3 TDs; targeted Jamar Chase 23 times.
  • "He passed the ball to Jamar Chase 23 times." – Jason Moore [02:40]
• Steelers' defense woes: Andy sarcastically laments trading for them as a fantasy play:
  • "I got negative one. So I spotted Josh a point and got rid of one of my roster spots." – Andy Holloway [03:56]
• Jamar Chase drama:
  • "If I had Jamar, I would have traded him." – Mike Wright [07:21]
• Old QBs, big arms: Aaron Rodgers’ Hail Mary still impressive.
• TE feast: Multiple Steelers TEs scored (Fryermuth, Darnell Washington, Jonnu Smith).
• Running backs: Jalen Warren shines (16-127-1; 4-31 REC).
• Fantasy fallout: DK Metcalf disappointment, Jamar Chase week-winners.

2. News & Injury Notes

[11:17 - 18:14]

• Wideouts ruled out: Puka Nacua, Jacoby Myers, Brock Bowers likely missing.
• Garrett Wilson doubtful. Chuba Hubbard limited Thursday, but later cleared.
• Other big names: Calvin Ridley DNP, Stefon Diggs limited, Debo Samuel & Terry McLaurin questionable with growing doubts.
• RBs: DeAndre Swift (groin); coaches noncommittal about backfield splits in Carolina.
• Next-man-up suggestions for missing WRs: e.g., Raiders: Trey Tucker.
• Jake Ferguson injury concern: Noted for Dallas TE committee.

3. Weather & Game Environment Factors

[19:43 - 21:08]

• Several games with notable wind concern, especially in Cleveland:
  • "Kevin Roth saying his models now... sustained winds of 20 to 25 with gusts around 40." – Mike Wright [20:27]
• Rain isn’t as big an issue unless paired with wind.

4. Fantasy Forecast: Week 7 Matchups Breakdown

Giants @ Broncos

[21:08 - 28:37]

• Broncos big favorites but hosts see Giants keeping it close.
• Jackson Dart: Still just 54% rostered, offers rushing upside but tough upcoming schedule.
• Cam Scatteboo: Must-start due to sheer volume despite matchup.
  • "There's no world where I'm ever benching Cam Scab." – Andy Holloway [23:56]
• Denver RBs/WRs: Courtland Sutton a start, Bo Nix a fringe streamer; Pat Bryant (deep sleeper WR2 watch).

Colts @ Chargers

[28:37 - 33:07]

• High-scoring potential; Chargers favored at home.
• Michael Pittman, Alec Pierce (spot start if Downs out), Jonathan Taylor automatic.
• Chargers WRs: Keen interest in rookie Lad McConkey, Keenan Allen (ranked lower than McConkey this week!).

Commanders @ Cowboys

[35:01 - 41:24]

• Incredibly high over/under (54.5).
• Washington top WRs out (Debo, McLaurin) – where do all the targets go?
  • "Social media, do not clip this.... Zach Ertz is good for 16 of them." – Jason Moore [37:23]
• Chris Moore named as best desperation WR.
• Play Jake Ferguson, but target pie shrinks.
• Start Dak over Jaden Daniels due to supporting cast.
• Cowboys offense "has been amazing," defense “horrific” — excellent for offensive game scripts.

Packers @ Cardinals

[41:30 - 47:48]

• Pessimism around Kyler Murray; Jacoby Brissett likely to start.
• RB muddle with Demercado out: Bam Knight, Michael Carter, but little enthusiasm.
• Marvin Harrison Jr. in concussion protocol; Trey McBride the only locked-in Cardinal, especially if WRs are ruled out.
• Green Bay: Josh Jacobs, Matthew Golden in start consideration; Romeo Doubs vs. Golden close, with hosts split.

Falcons @ 49ers (Sunday Night Football)

[53:15 - 58:19]

• Prime time, strong fantasy stakes: Bijan vs. CMC (both top-2 RBs per game).
• George Kittle returns (start him even vs. tough Falcons TE defense).
• Kendrick Bourne: WR7 back-to-back weeks; could become the first Niners WR with 100+ yards in three straight games since Jerry Rice. He’s a must-flex if Mac Jones starts.

Buccaneers @ Lions (Monday Night Game)

[58:19 - 66:07]

• Shootout potential: Detroit the week’s highest implied total (29.3).
• Baker Mayfield a solid start; Mike Evans a must if active.
• Next Tampa WR2? Debate: Tez Johnson (big play upside), Cameron Johnson (steady), Sterling Shepard (safe floor).
• Rashad White’s underwhelming efficiency but still an RB1 via volume.
• On Detroit’s side, all in on Amon-Ra, Gibbs, Montgomery, Jameson Williams (big upside).
• Sam LaPorta is a weekly start at TE.

Texans @ Seahawks (Second Monday Night Game)

[66:07 - 70:55]

• Play JSN, Nico Collins.
• Big RB debate: Walker vs. Charbonnet (Walker preferred for potential blow-up, despite shrinking snap count/role).
• Woody Marks (Texans RB) over Nick Chubb (Browns RB) in PPR as a desperation play.
• Mike gives permission for east coast dads to go to bed early:
  • "If you're east coast and you go to sleep for this game, you don't have to do the rage." – Mike Wright [66:53]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Joe Flacco’s instant connection:
  "We got these play calls to have like, F at the end. He's like, I don't even know what they are."
  – Jason Moore [06:24]
• Andy's sarcastic fantasy trade:
  "I got negative one. So I spotted Josh a point and got rid of one of my roster spots."
  – Andy Holloway [03:56]
• Jason's almost upset switcheroo:
  "Can you do the drop in reverse for me? I don't want it to be informal."
  – Jason Moore [51:40]
• Charbonnet vs. Walker debate:
  "You guys were the Charbonnet Bros in the draft... now you treat him like Ramon Dre or worse. You hate Charbonnet."
  – Jason Moore [67:32]
• Bad weather warning for Cleveland:
  "It's moved into the up with definite... Rain is what I'm seeing... but rain when you have 20 mile an hour winds, that's a problem."
  – Mike Wright [20:28]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Thursday Night Football recap: 01:27–11:11
• Injury/News Roundup: 11:17–18:14
• Weather alerts: 19:43–21:08
• Giants @ Broncos: 21:08–28:37
• Colts @ Chargers: 28:37–33:07
• Commanders @ Cowboys: 35:01–41:24
• Packers @ Cardinals: 41:30–47:48
• Falcons @ 49ers: 53:15–58:19
• Bucs @ Lions: 58:19–66:07
• Texans @ Seahawks: 66:07–70:55
• Fantasy Face Off / Wheel of Shame segment: 71:13–76:45

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Wheel of Shame: The Week’s Outrageous Punishment

[71:21-76:12]

• This week’s loser: Jason Moore dons the “Glizzy King” hot dog hat after leaning on the wrong running back.
• "I'm the wiener of the week. I leaned on Ramondre Stevenson. I told you..." – Jason Moore [73:04]

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Strategic Spot Start Advice

• WRs to pick up with injuries mounting: Chris Moore (Washington), Alec Pierce (Indianapolis), Tez Johnson/Cameron Johnson (Tampa).
• At RB: Bam Knight/Michael Carter (Cardinals), but expectations are low.
• Tight End Streamers: Zach Ertz (Washington), Tucker Kraft (Green Bay), Tommy Tremble (Carolina deep league).

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Final Thoughts

• Streamers: Focus on volume over matchup at RB.
• Weather awareness matters this week (especially in Cleveland and Chicago).
• Injuries are everywhere: Be ready to adjust all weekend.
• High-value games: Target Bucs-Lions, Cowboys-Commanders, Colts-Chargers for fantasy fireworks.
• Still split on backfields: Walker > Charbonnet (narrowly), Marks > Chubb (in PPR)
• Wheel of Shame delivers comic relief and a reminder: fantasy is supposed to be fun.

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Listen (or read) for:

• Strong, actionable advice mixed with banter and humor
• Clear injury and opportunity updates
• Multiple spot-start and streaming suggestions
• A focus on context (“Don’t overreact about coaching bluffs or WR pecking orders!”)
• That classic Footballers mix of entertainment and hard-hitting insight

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FFBallers’ advice this week: Stay alert for injury news, weather, and late value on waivers. Don’t be afraid to start volume over “name” if the workload is right, and remember that bad defenses (and high-scoring games) are your ticket to fantasy glory.

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(End of summary. All quotes and timestamps are as stated in the transcript.)

Transcript

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[Mike Wright]

Oh, welcome in.

[Jason Moore]

Friday, October 17th. Shaking my head after that Thursday night game. Welcome into the fantasy footballers.

[Andy Holloway]

Whoo.

[Jason Moore]

33 to 31. I know the world wants to hear our reaction to that madness, but what a game.

[Andy Holloway]

Exactly how everyone saw it going.

[Jason Moore]

I remember asking you earlier in the week, like, are you excited for this game? You're like, yeah, maybe. Yeah, maybe we'll get lucky.

[Andy Holloway]

It was awesome for many, many players. It was very not good for others. But I hope you played your Steelers tight ends, right?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. I mean, AFC north, you know, this is how it always goes.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Hard nosed, rough defense. First 13 to 10. No. 33, 31 Bengals. 342 yards passing for Joe Flacco. Three touchdowns. Joe Flacco, I saw something this morning. He now has the same amount of wins as Joe Burrow in games in which the opponent scored 30 or more points.

[Mike Wright]

Wow. It's very specific. But.

[Jason Moore]

Well, I mean, it's not that bad. It's just literally, if the Bengals give up 30, can you win the game?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And Joe Flacco managed to do it. He passed the ball to Jamar Chase 23 times.

[Andy Holloway]

That's worth talking about.

[Jason Moore]

It reminds me of Brandon Marshall on Monday Night Football years ago from Jake Cutler. I can remember it clearly because he had like 17 catches on 20 something targets. I mean, this was throw it to your best player on every play.

[Andy Holloway]

It wasn't just throw it to your best player on every play. It was, we got two plays.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, dude.

[Andy Holloway]

My favorite part of the Game by.

[Mike Wright]

Far, and it was routed.

[Andy Holloway]

It was amazing. Was when there were four identical routes.

[Mike Wright]

And passes in a row to end.

[Andy Holloway]

The half, but it was just like, hey, javar, chase, run 15 yards, go to the left. I'm going to throw you the ball four times in a row. It's going to work. They can't stop it.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

The final drive, he got more open than he did all day. After 21 targets, I don't understand.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, oh, man, don't get me started on the Steelers defense. So they didn't have one. I couldn't. I couldn't believe how bad it was. Like, they were playing eight guys on defense.

[Jason Moore]

You were. You were. People don't know this, but you traded for the Steelers defense from me.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Mid show.

[Andy Holloway]

Mid show Yesterday.

[Jason Moore]

Yesterday.

[Andy Holloway]

To play them. Great, great defense that's been on a heater.

[Jason Moore]

You got how many points?

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I got. I got negative one. So I spotted Josh a point and got rid of one of my roster spots. That was. But I traded for that.

[Mike Wright]

It felt like you were counter punching my Justin Jefferson trademark.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Oh, that's true. You're Justin Jefferson. Trade, and you will be like, I got it.

[Mike Wright]

I got to make a move.

[Andy Holloway]

I got to make a move. I got to beat Josh this week. So I need those negative points, man.

[Mike Wright]

The game, it also was like, it reminded me of Joe Flacco.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, right.

[Mike Wright]

Like, hey, I messaged the slack, like, halfway through game. I've seen enough. Turns out the Cleveland Browns were actually the problem. It was not Joe Flacco.

[Jason Moore]

And that's why Mike Tomlin didn't like the trade.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because that cost them a game.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, for sure.

[Andy Holloway]

Cost. With Jake Browning there. There's no chance. No, no.

[Jason Moore]

31 to 3.

[Mike Wright]

It would have been when we were like, no, Ken. Joe Flacco really changed things for the Cincinnati Bengals. And it was. I mean, just go. Two weeks ago, I. After seeing what Flacco is doing on the Browns. Yeah. You got to have some hope, some optimism that a change will be different. And bringing up Joe Flacco is just. He's a veteran quarterback. He can make reads real fast. So the offensive line, while it's a problem, Joe Flacco can actually identify where I got to go real, real quick. More than Jake Browning.

[Andy Holloway]

And that had I actually came through this. I hope this doesn't come off too hot. Takey, but it honestly feels like Joe Burrow behind this offensive line was doing worse because he was trying to do more. Maybe Flacco's so afraid of getting Hit and knows he can't buy time in the pocket. I was watching the defense like a hawk for the Steelers because they were my fantasy defense, and it was impossible. You couldn't sack him because the ball just was snapped and out snapped. Two steps out. Snap, three steps out. And it's like, you can't. You know, J.J. watt was. Was or was doing great. Never got to him. I mean, he beat his guy. And by the time.

[Jason Moore]

Frustrating that must be.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it was frustrating for him. Frustrating for me more. And so it was like, I kept having that thought during the game of like, man, I wonder if they make the playoffs. And Joe Burrow comes back. He needs to, like, learn a lesson from this. Like, because Joe Burrow is better than obviously today than Joe Flacco, but he took sacks that killed drives because he's trying to make something special.

[Jason Moore]

Just like it would be an amazing performance if Joe Flacco had been there all year long. It's even more amazing in the fact that he just showed up. And if you saw the post game interview with him and Jamar Chase, he was like, we got these play calls to have like, F at the end. He's like, I don't even know what they are. Yeah, he's like, I don't even understand what they're calling.

[Andy Holloway]

Like, did you see the quarterback? Read the run? That was unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, my God.

[Andy Holloway]

That was not called. Oh, that was Flacco.

[Mike Wright]

Joe Flacco's like, my time.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it was insane. I mean, Jamar Chase, if it's any consolation, I traded you the Steelers defense, Jason. But then I faced Jamar Chase last.

[Mike Wright]

Night, and it's okay.

[Jason Moore]

So my week's over.

[Mike Wright]

And to all the people, like, with Jamar Chase, trying to remember where we were two weeks ago is like, what do you possibly do? And I was. If I had Jamar, I would have traded him.

[Jason Moore]

I was going to say, like, I.

[Mike Wright]

Would have traded him.

[Jason Moore]

Somebody went online and they were calling us out for saying that we would have traded him for huge. This was a time before Joe Flacco when you had Jake Browning doing nothing in this offense. The fact of I wouldn't do that now. I wouldn't have done that before this week.

[Mike Wright]

I was saying, like, when. Even when they traded for Flacco, you weren't at your. Two weeks ago. Like, well, this is the solution. It's. Well, maybe it could be slightly better. And the Browns. We're only two weeks. Maybe teams figure out how to get to Flacco and stop this. But this is so exciting.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they gave up 31 points. Still. They still did that. They gave up 244 to Aaron Rodgers. They made Pat Fryermuth a Luthett man in the world.

[Mike Wright]

Like T. Higgins having himself a great game. 6 for 96 with a touchdown.

[Andy Holloway]

The Chase Brown went over.

[Jason Moore]

There was one big disappointment in the game.

[Mike Wright]

100%.

[Jason Moore]

And look in the D stands for disappointment.

[Mike Wright]

2 came out, 2, 49 and 4. Yeah, that's what Aaron Rodgers threw out. I mean, I mean the streams unbelievable like this. Oh, Joe Flacco was Rogers and Flacco, big streams coming through in huge ways. But 200, 249 to 4. Clearly DK Metcalf had himself at least a very good game.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll take it one step further right off the bat. A 39 yard pass to DK Metcalf.

[Jason Moore]

That means he had 11 the rest of the way.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean it was like, oh, DK Metcalf, he didn't get a target.

[Jason Moore]

Johnny Smith scored, Darnell Washington scored. And fire me. The three tight ends quarter, second and third quarter.

[Mike Wright]

I don't think DK Metcalf got a target. And what just the way Arthur likes it.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it tight ends only.

[Mike Wright]

That one felt oh so bad because everyone on the, everyone that you played on the Steelers side, great. Jalen Warren, absolute dog workload. 16 for 127, 4 for 31 through the air. The what? I don't know if you guys noticed this, but so you know the, the, the last pass there at the end before they set up the, the Hail Mary which shout out to Aaron Rodgers. Still Cannon arms.

[Jason Moore]

Unbelievable.

[Mike Wright]

Still Cannon arms.

[Jason Moore]

Did you yards in the air?

[Andy Holloway]

It was like 68 point something but it was the longest pass through the air since 2017. I mean just this version of Aaron.

[Jason Moore]

Rodgers did that, but I can't believe he got it to the end zone.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but the, you know they ran one play because like we got to get a couple of yards to set it up and you're like, obviously he's going to go to DK Metcalf. No, he went to Friarmouth.

[Andy Holloway]

I think he just went to the end zone, man.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no.

[Andy Holloway]

The. Oh, oh, oh.

[Mike Wright]

The short yardage play, it was like Aaron Rodgers in that time where he's going to just go to the guy that he trusts to make a play. At that point of the game, he's like, I'm not throwing it to dk, I'm throwing it to Muth.

[Andy Holloway]

You guys have seen the clip wild of Aaron Rodgers after he's getting Friar Muth touchdown. Where his own. His own guy comes up and celebrates with him. Kind of jumps on his back, accidentally tackles him. Yeah, well, he tackles him because he's old and I get that because it gigantic offensive lineman. He's a gigantic offensive lineman but he wasn't tackling him. He was jumping on his back. And then Aaron Rodgers is all and fell down and Aaron Rodgers gets up and is like, get off me so pissed off. And I get it. I get both sides of it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

But also is the most Aaron Rodgers thing.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it is.

[Andy Holloway]

What a criminal.

[Mike Wright]

I get it. When I get startled my I go I'm mad. I'm not a startled like oh, I laugh it off. I get startled. I instantly get angry. There's nothing I can do about it. I mean. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean is there anything else? No. I mean Jayla Warren was. Everyone was good freaking less. Except for DK Mac who was below average.

[Mike Wright]

Well, not only below average. The interception.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

It was just.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh yeah, it was him.

[Mike Wright]

He just there. The Bengals are like, give me that.

[Jason Moore]

All right. It's Friday.

[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

LA lover.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Yeah, we'll go with that. Congratulations. Thank you for supporting the show. Jointhefoot.com you got 100 bucks. Two fantasy champs. Let's talk news.

[Andy Holloway]

News and notes from around the league presented by Progressive Insurance.

[Jason Moore]

Well, we had one of the wide receiver shoes drop officially formally Puka Nakua ruled out for this week. That'll be nice for your lineups. Being able to set some things up. We're still waiting on like a Buka and Harrison and Garrett Wilson's down.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh no.

[Jason Moore]

Garrett Wilson, he's doubtful.

[Mike Wright]

He's got a chance. Yeah, we need to A chance of a multi week injury.

[Jason Moore]

We talked about this. Like I think we'll put this into play next year, but we'll let doubtful start to go into the ir. Yeah, for honestly, I mean if that player becomes active and you want to play them, you still have to drop somebody to move back into the lineup. So I don't think. I don't think that's a big deal. All right. David Najoka did not practice again Chuba Hubbard limited on Thursday. Calvin Ridley did not practice on Thursday. Stefan Diggs limited. Any concerns from that group?

[Mike Wright]

I mean, Nijoku is not going to play.

[Andy Holloway]

I Don't think I would agree with that. And then Chuba is the one I'm most interested in just to see that Rico resurgence or surgeons we should say is that. I don't know if it's really a resurgence. I know he was good at the end of last year, but he's never done what he's done this last two weeks.

[Mike Wright]

Like he didn't rush for a thousand yards last year.

[Andy Holloway]

A lot of guys rush for a thousand. That's.

[Mike Wright]

No, they don't.

[Andy Holloway]

It's like 57 yards a game. He's rushing for 200 yards a game.

[Mike Wright]

Different things that is. You're moving the goalpost, man.

[Jason Moore]

Jason, once again, surgeon is not a real word, but I get what you're saying.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Jacoby Myers, Brock Bowers didn't practice. Seems like both are going to miss. What do you do? Let's ask the question briefly here. Is Trey Tucker the number one?

[Mike Wright]

It seems like it for now. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then like because Jack bash, he played 75% of snaps, he had zero catches last week. Oh, Thornton did nothing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Well, Thornton is off the field now. Bash is just the back to the dynasty whole.

[Jason Moore]

But now you're going to move. What I'm saying is if Jacoby Myers and Brock Bowers are off the field.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that is tough.

[Jason Moore]

Who's the spot start this week? It's Tucker.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

J.J. mcCarthy Limited again. Carson Wentz a full participant. Seems like Carson Wentz is going to play. DJ Moore returned to a limited practice with the.

[Mike Wright]

Oh man, it's going around.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

DeAndre Swift was added to the injury report because of a groin injury. Groin index.com letting us know and this is their quotes on the matter.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, this was a later addition so it's a little scary.

[Mike Wright]

Kyle Manong guy needs to be rostered.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, probably already is.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, probably. But some guys like that. Yeah, they go on and off of the waiver wire.

[Jason Moore]

CD Lamb is going to play. Terry McLaurin looking not good again.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah man. What is going on?

[Jason Moore]

He didn't practice on Thursday after a limited Wednesday. It's not really working well.

[Andy Holloway]

I had this thought. So we talked about how the holdout guys over the last several years have not had a great run of getting back to football when they hold out of training camp. Obviously, you know, with Brandon IU, Katera McLaurin here this year, is that like Rushy Rice, he was not holding out but also he was like not able to practice.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

There is definitely some of that to be. It's a variable. The. When the guys are doing the hold in, though, I feel like they're at practice just.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Just standing around.

[Mike Wright]

Standing around where? Rasheed Rice. I mean, per the video.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

That dude is the comeback.

[Jason Moore]

Yes.

[Mike Wright]

Because the world. The world is against me.

[Jason Moore]

People are. We're very.

[Mike Wright]

How dare they be upset of my breaking of the law.

[Jason Moore]

They were very eager to let me know, as though we had forgotten, that he's coming back from an injury as well.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

But the truth is that if that's.

[Andy Holloway]

Why he was missing time, he was.

[Jason Moore]

Healthy and would have played in Week 1. With the injury, he was already in training camp and preseason. So he had. As far as I'm concerned, you returned from the injury when you played in preseason.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. You returned.

[Mike Wright]

His ankle was okay on an accelerator there.

[Jason Moore]

And by the way, this show, we make jokes. All right. I know that he's not O.J. simpson. All right. That was a funny little joke. All right.

[Mike Wright]

Being hyperbolic.

[Jason Moore]

It was me picturing OJ Making a comeback video. That's the funny part of it.

[Andy Holloway]

Just taking a stab at it. Thank you, Jason.

[Mike Wright]

I'm jolting. That's a Norm MacDonald.

[Jason Moore]

Hey, Debo, by the way, Tom Pellissero, your. Your boy, Mike. Real uncertainty about whether Debo or McLaren will be available. What is the. Who's the pickup for you? Is it McCaffrey? Luke McCaffrey? Is it Jalen Lane? Is it.

[Andy Holloway]

Tell me why. It's Traylon Bursts Cray.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, did they sign him?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, the practice. Yeah, he's not ready to play. He's not going to be starting this week. But they did sign him, so that.

[Jason Moore]

Is still indicative of injury issues and concerns.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I mean, if you go out and sign Traylon Burks, that's a good indication that, like, they're concerned about McLaurin and Samuel in their wide receiver room.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, Debo, Terry McLaurin on red alert there. Quentin Johnston, he's supposed to be back.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he. I mean, at least on sleeper. I thought he got upgraded to healthy.

[Jason Moore]

So still was limited on Thursday. Monitor that. Josh Downs, no practice. Concussion. Seems like he's going to be out. And we'll talk about more injury situations in the matchups today that the CD Lamb News.

[Andy Holloway]

I don't think we said it on the show, but, Andy, you told me that there was a quote from Schottenheimer about whether you are frozen. That was so. That was. That freaked me out. I thought I was in a simulation there. If you. If you go to the YouTube. You straight froze.

[Jason Moore]

I did.

[Andy Holloway]

You.

[Jason Moore]

You. You jumped in and I didn't want.

[Andy Holloway]

To interrupt, but the Schottenheimer quote, what was it about? Whether or not he's breathing?

[Jason Moore]

Are you concerned with, you know, what does he have to show?

[Mike Wright]

How do you know?

[Jason Moore]

What do you have to show in practice this week to make you feel good about him playing? And he just said if he's breathing.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Also then yesterday there was the so reporting.

[Jason Moore]

Now he is breathing.

[Mike Wright]

It was Schottenheimer's birthday apparently. And he said, this is my birthday present.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm having CD Lamb.

[Jason Moore]

It's a big deal.

[Mike Wright]

It is.

[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Jason Moore]

Yesterday we covered the Rams, Jags, the London game. We covered Saints, Bears, Dolphins, Browns, Patriots, Titans, Raiders, Chiefs, Eagles, Vikings, Panthers and Jets. And we'll move on to the rest of the matchups today. Still monitoring a few weather situations. Again. We, you know, when you're talking about it on Thursday, there's a long way to go between Thursday and Sunday morning and how things change. We've had lots of games that look bad that end up fine.

[Mike Wright]

The Cleveland, Miami.

[Jason Moore]

Well, there you go.

[Mike Wright]

Wait.

[Andy Holloway]

Breaking news.

[Jason Moore]

Sorry. McLaurin officially ruled out already. So he is not. Not coming back.

[Mike Wright]

That escalated. Yeah. Also escalating the reports for weather in the Cleveland game. Like these are. These are.

[Jason Moore]

They're getting worse now.

[Mike Wright]

Well, it's just moving from a it this could happen to now. It's moving to like this is a shout out to Kevin Roth who saying his models now we're looking at trending to a sustained winds of 20 to 25 with gusts around 40.

[Andy Holloway]

That's bad.

[Mike Wright]

Like he, you know, he keeps an eye on it and he tries to be pretty measured of just pay attention. It's moved into the up with definite.

[Jason Moore]

Rain is what I'm seeing.

[Mike Wright]

But it's like rain I don't really care about unless it's a torrential downpour. But rain when you have 20 mile an hour winds, that's a problem.

[Jason Moore]

All right. Well, speaking of a problem, this implied point total for the Giants is a problem. The Giants are 2 and 4. They travel to Denver to take on the 4 and 2 Broncos.

[Mike Wright]

I just want to party with the Giants.

[Jason Moore]

I know the Denver Broncos are the Vegas line here.

[Mike Wright]

Party poopers.

[Jason Moore]

Minus seven over, under 39 and a half.

[Mike Wright]

All right, all right. Does that help? Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Jason Moore]

That's a big line. I got some room there. The Giants implied point total of 16.3, Broncos 23.3. I think this game will be closer. I mean, the Broncos have been a very up and down team.

[Andy Holloway]

They haven't looked great. You know, some weeks they look great. Some weeks they looked inept.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they're not like just having a slightly off week. They look real bad on the weeks that they're off. Now they're at home. They're heavily favored. They got a great defense. You expect them to put a lot of pressure on the Giants and Jackson Dart and Scatter Boo and company. But I still think that the Giants will be able to keep this thing close. They have a good defense of their own. And the way that the Broncos have played, you know, do they get it going again? We'll see. I'm not saying that they're going to lose the game, but I think it could be a lot closer on the Giant side of the football. Jackson Dart somehow still only rostered in 54% of leagues. That doesn't make sense to me with the rushing upside of Jackson Dart. I. Not that you have to play him, nor would I probably play him here with the risks involved, but, you know, you can have a. I mean, Justin Fields is an example of you can Have a very ineffective passing, low yardage game, but big fantasy day just by running the football.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I think he's probably not rostered because the schedule is tough. It's Denver this week, it's Philly next week, which obviously that's who he just was the quarterback for, against. But you don't really like.

[Mike Wright]

He was at home in that one.

[Andy Holloway]

He was at home. There was no Jalen Carter. You know, it's like you don't expect him to repeat what, you know, that magical win against Philly. I'm sure they will be huge underdogs despite just beating them. So that's the tough part about rostering. Jackson Dart. I do think he is certainly fantasy viable throughout the season in the right matches.

[Jason Moore]

Will he run for more than 50 yards like he has for his first three starts?

[Mike Wright]

Not in this one.

[Jason Moore]

Just because Denver's very good at Denver.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. The mobile quarterbacks are not getting it done. You have Daniel Jones at 2 yards, Herbert at 6, Jalen Hurts at 3. Justin Fields had 31.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's a. It's a good point.

[Mike Wright]

It's, it's. You can't. You can't quarterback run on the Broncos.

[Jason Moore]

You were the Cam Scatter Boo guy last week, Jason. You. You gave us the, you know, encouragement to play him in a what seemed like a tough matchup. We're here again. It seems like a very tough matchup. Seventh against the run.

[Andy Holloway]

There's no world where I'm ever benching Cam Scab. I don't even look at the matchup personally. The matchup is irrelevant when you are getting 20 opportunities a game. And what he did last week in. In helping cement like the new Giants means that the opportunities will still be there this weekend. So 20 opportunities, maybe it turns into a bad game and a tough defense. He scores nine fantasy points and you're disappointed. But I'm always going to take the opportunities you'd have to have. You know, you'd have to have a Josh Jacobs and Jonathan Taylor to be like, okay, I've got to sit down. Scatter boo.

[Jason Moore]

There's only four running backs in the last five weeks that have been in the top 24 every week, and he's one of them. With CMC A Chan and Jonathan Taylor.

[Andy Holloway]

Scatter Boo.

[Jason Moore]

Right? He's the only one that eats crayons. Of that group.

[Andy Holloway]

He is. He is. Loves crayons, lead chips, rocks. He started eating rocks. You know, Scatterboo in Week 1, played 12% of the snaps, wasn't really involved. His first rookie game. And including that game, he's the running back 10 in fantasy football. So he's, he's dominating as a rookie. And it's nice because if they're up like they were last week, he'll get 19 carries and probably be scoring a touchdown. And that's why they're up. If they're down like in previous weeks, he gets seven targets, eight targets. He's involved in the passing game. So I.

[Jason Moore]

Well, they don't have receivers. I mean, Wanda Robinson is there, but Darius Slayton has hurt little Jordan Humphrey up from the practice squad to be their leading receiver last week. Theo Johnson seems touched down or bust.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, call him Jordan Humphrey, but.

[Mike Wright]

That'S not his name.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, his name is Little Jordan.

[Andy Holloway]

He's so big, but he is a big, big guy.

[Jason Moore]

He is the juxtaposition.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, he's Little Jordan.

[Andy Holloway]

Little oxymoron.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Is that, that's.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Like jumbo shrimp or like Lil John, right?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Or little Jordan Humphrey.

[Jason Moore]

Jumbo shrimp.

[Mike Wright]

What is the size status of Lil Wayne?

[Jason Moore]

Oh, he's little.

[Mike Wright]

He's very small. Okay, so he is a teensy tiny.

[Jason Moore]

He's Lil Wayne. Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, math checks out on that one.

[Jason Moore]

J.K. dobbins, what's the temperature check on J.K. dobbins?

[Andy Holloway]

The Giants defense, 100% the same as Scatter Boo. To me this is a guy, he's not getting 20 opportunities a game, but he is getting enough work. He had a very bad game last week and so people might go, oh, I want to, I want to move off of him or pivot off, but he is the guy. Like the utilization was still there. His usage 78% of the running back rushing attempts last week. And so this is. The Giants don't have a great run defense usually most of the season. They're, you know, ranked 24th and schedule adjusted against running back. So to me, Dobbins and Scatterboo are in obviously. Corland Sutton, Andy's your start of the week. Should be a good bounce back player. Yeah. Biggest question to me is Bo Nix?

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I think Bo Nix is a fringe. He's a fringe starter depending on what you have. And I don't think I'm really like settling into Bonix being your every week start at all for the rest of the season. I wouldn't feel comfortable with that going into the playoffs.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I can agree with that. Let's just. So Bo Nicks, Giants this week, it's not bad. It not, you know, it's just middle of the Pack Dallas next week.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Okie dokie. Yeah, that's good stuff.

[Andy Holloway]

Fire him up.

[Jason Moore]

Delightful.

[Mike Wright]

Houston on the road, not great. But then Vegas. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Kansas City, just kind of a red light, green light. Yeah, really.

[Mike Wright]

It really bounces around, honestly.

[Jason Moore]

So pick up a another player.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, you might need to do a little your own bench streaming.

[Jason Moore]

Well, you can look at the strength of schedule tool on the website stream finder tool and try to identify some players. Anybody else on that side of the ball that you want to talk about? I mean RJRV is not playable right now. The wide receivers, Mims and Franklin and all them not playable right now.

[Mike Wright]

If I'm doing anything. Okay. This is a deep league type of a situation because it's a little bit. But their rookie Pat Bryant, who had a lot. He had a lot of off season hype going around him. I think it was a third round pick. You know, Sean Payton talked glowingly about him. We liked him in the offseason. I liked him in the off season because the number two was not established for the Denver Broncos. It seemed like at the beginning of the year Troy Franklin is going to take that job and run with it and he was doing okay at the beginning and the snaps have decreased while the, the routes, the route participation for Pat Bryant has increased. So this isn't a this week, but it's a. Pay attention that Pat Bryant might be coming for that job.

[Jason Moore]

The Indianapolis Colts, the number one seed in the AFC at five and one take on the four and two Los Angeles Chargers. Chargers one and a half point favorites at home over under 48 and a half. You like that?

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. This is a fun game.

[Jason Moore]

It does seem like it. It is pretty rare for a best record in the NFL and number one seed to be an underdog at all. But going to a four and two.

[Andy Holloway]

Chargers team certainly in week seven. Yeah, I mean week seven you're established. The Colts are a good team and they are. They are underdogs here.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Their offense has been a machine number one in yards per play, number one and expected points per play. It's predicated on the best running back in the game right now and Jonathan Taylor. The play action. Alec Pierce I think has an opportunity this week. He would be my sneaky play because you know Adnai Mitchell is not going to get work. I believe Ashton Doolin is hurt.

[Mike Wright]

Is he?

[Jason Moore]

And I believe Josh Downs is going to miss. And so you've got Michael Pittman and then you've got Alec Pierce in a game that projects to have quite a bit of scoring. To me that is a spot start situation. Played 81% of snaps last week and that was with Josh Downs active.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. Alex Pierce is, he's, he'll be a weekly. Every once in a while you're like, hey, do I need to throw someone in? Just hope and pray.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. To me that this, this is one of those weeks that might work out. The Chargers are a good defense against the past, but you're with Alec Pierce, it can be a couple plays.

[Mike Wright]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

So you know, we talked about the Chargers past heavy offense right now 9th in offensive plays per game, 3rd and pass rate, which basically continues what they were doing last year over the back half.

[Mike Wright]

But there are, I mean the questions are, I think are fair. Look, with huge back or expected to be back, how do you feel then about lad McConkey? I mean he was, he got it done in the absence.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm fine with, I'm fine with lad McConkey. I mean even, even with hu games of nine targets, seven targets, you didn't get a touchdown, you were a little disappointed. We talked about this during the first month of the season when Keenan Allen looked like, oh, Keenan is making Lad, you know, unplayable. It's really. They're. Both of those guys are going to get, you know, seven or eight targets here and there. And when they don't get the touchdown, you're, you're going to be a little disappointed. But when they get the touchdown, you're going to be happy you played them. So these guys, I think all of them, especially because Quentin Johnson's just coming back from an injury. All three of these wide receivers are guys you can play, but you should look at your roster and see if you've got better options. The nice thing about playing them in this game, high over, under, no weather problems, two good quarterbacks, you could be in a shootout. And so those are, those are the. When I, when I'm looking at guys in the same tier, I'll tie break two wide receivers like this. So that's where I think Lad should be in probably most lineups.

[Jason Moore]

We have him at 17 on the week. Keenan at 22 on the week.

[Mike Wright]

That's too, we got to move him down. That's too high for Lad. Yeah. Or no Keenan Allen.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, for. I would much rather play Keenan or, I'm sorry, Lad over Keenan. This week, Indianapolis defense, they're allowing the third highest schedule adjusted fantasy points to slot wide receivers so Lad could cook. Lad could keep cooking.

[Jason Moore]

Keep cooking. Tyler Warren is a Smash player. Ronde Gadson had Eight targets last week. So he is also getting involved in the target pie. At least with Quentin Johnson.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, that was the. I think more of a product of the huge injury. I. It's a desperate play. I think there's probably better desperation plays on the waiver wire. And then. Are we Vidal.

[Andy Holloway]

Let's talk luscious locks. Okay.

[Mike Wright]

Vidal Sassoon.

[Andy Holloway]

Vidal Sassoon Camino. Vidal running back breakout last week, let's say. I'm going to give you some names. We'll see. Do you start him over that player?

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Do you start Vidal over Jordan Mason against the Philadelphia Eagles?

[Mike Wright]

I would not.

[Jason Moore]

Probably not.

[Andy Holloway]

Travis ETN against the Rams. Tough, tough rushing defense.

[Jason Moore]

I'm okay with that. I. Man, those London games can be stinkers. I'm okay with that.

[Andy Holloway]

Alvin Camara at Chicago matchup is good.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, the Colts run defense is pretty good.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay, here's a. Here's a phone.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

Kenneth Walker.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I'll play Vidal over Walker.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I get it.

[Jason Moore]

So will their head coach.

[Mike Wright]

Although McDonald, head coach McDonald of Seattle said, we got to figure out how to get the run game going. We're all. Yeah, we're all trying to figure out why, like the worst graded runner who has one of the highest stuff rates and terrible yards per carry, who's just getting so many carries. We're trying to figure out why we can't get the run game going.

[Jason Moore]

It's the whole world of Seattle's running game is pretty entertaining to me because you. You guys were the Charbonnet Bros. In the draft.

[Andy Holloway]

Pre draft.

[Jason Moore]

In the draft. And so like Minnie Moons now leagues.

[Mike Wright]

Yes. Thank you, Kyle. League's highest rate of runs for zero or negative yards, 32% belongs to Zach Charbonnet.

[Jason Moore]

I just mean I feel like if there was a different scenario, you'd be rooting for him to get better as opposed to the change to happen.

[Mike Wright]

Of course.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. If Walker was injured, we'd be like, come on, Charms, let's get it done. Yeah, but Walker's there. And so it's like, hey, Walker has his problem.

[Mike Wright]

I'm not saying Kenneth Walker is perfect by any means, but when the other guy is at that 32% of his carries go for zero or negative yards and he's not. Doesn't have the upside on a. On a per touch basis that Kenneth Walker is. That's what I'm saying. It's weird.

[Andy Holloway]

The weirdest part is that Walker has his issues, but the issues with Walker have always been how often he takes zero yards or negative plays. Like, that is Kenneth Walker's big problem is he takes bad place, but it's like the other guy's doing that, too.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So they gave him 35% of the snaps last week and then came back and said they need to get the run game going.

[Mike Wright]

There's.

[Jason Moore]

We're going to control of all of it.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, it was. It was very much the. The Andy Reid. Why didn't Jamal. Jamal Charles touch the ball more?

[Andy Holloway]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

We got to figure out how to get him more touches.

[Andy Holloway]

So call the plays.

[Jason Moore]

I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

I don't know what's going on in Seattle. I don't know if it's going to get better for Walker. It's infuriating.

[Jason Moore]

Daniel Jones playable in this one.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, for sure.

[Jason Moore]

Daniel Jones bone Knicks.

[Andy Holloway]

I would go Daniel Jones. I want this game.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. You want.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, I do, too. Justin Herbert's my start of the week. The bounce back, I think it's coming and I think this game could hit the over for sure. I hope we get something like the Thursday night game.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, our game was so fun.

[Jason Moore]

Are these quarterbacks too young to give us that kind of a great performance? Was that seven passing touchdowns?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. So that's crazy.

[Jason Moore]

Pretty. Pretty nice. Washington three and three. We've talked about him this morning. With the injuries, they take on a 2, 3 and 1 Dallas team. Seems like a really important game for.

[Mike Wright]

Both teams, which we did just get a bit of news here that Trayvon Diggs suffered an accident at home last night and is in concussion protocol. So just another guy missing from the Dallas.

[Jason Moore]

The concussions happening not in the game. That's the third one.

[Andy Holloway]

What was the.

[Mike Wright]

So we had the Colts. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

And then you had the. The Colts.

[Mike Wright]

The Colts before the Ward.

[Jason Moore]

And then now you've got this one.

[Andy Holloway]

Stay safe out there.

[Jason Moore]

By the way, we did get an Update also that DeAndre Swift's groin injury did not happen in practice. Oh, I don't know if that's at home, too. Oh, I don't. Oh, I don't know.

[Mike Wright]

We will not speculate.

[Jason Moore]

Commanders one and a half point road favorites over under unbelievably 54.5 rounded up.

[Andy Holloway]

What.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, that is a wild.

[Andy Holloway]

That's an insanely high line.

[Jason Moore]

Well, the Cowboys offense has been amazing and they get CD Lamb back and the Cowboys defense has been horrific. And you know, Jaden Daniels is going.

[Mike Wright]

To be awesome for us.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, no, it's been really good for fantasy. This is why I want to find A. I want to find a spot, start on the Washington wide receiver core. Like, literally, like, just think about this. They're projected for 28 points.

[Mike Wright]

Right?

[Jason Moore]

Give me. Let's be conservative. Jaden throws for 220.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

Where's it go? Where's it go? No Debo. If Debo doesn't play. If there's no McLaurin, no Debo. You're looking Luke McCaffrey, Jalen Lane, Chris Moore. That is your wide receiver.

[Mike Wright]

Room and social media do not clip this.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, Zach Ertz is good for 16 of them.

[Mike Wright]

It's Zach Ertz and.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, you're getting clipped.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, I said he can't.

[Andy Holloway]

He doesn't listen to us. He's flying like a falcon.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, I The can't believe you.

[Mike Wright]

Have him because I was.

[Jason Moore]

You have him roster.

[Mike Wright]

I was just gonna say I have George Kittle. And all reports as of right now are. George Kittle is good. He's gonna play. He took off the appropriate amount of time and he's gonna go. But things happen, you know. So I had needed a backup plan and Zach Ertz is currently my backup plan.

[Andy Holloway]

Wow. Check this out. I was just curious. With that line of 54 and a half the total points in Cowboys games over the last five weeks. 77, 45. So you would hit the under there. 80, 59 and 57. Oh, give me Cowboys games.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. And so give Zachary 50 yards. I still think you take a shot with one of these other wide receivers.

[Mike Wright]

Just who?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I mean, it's. It's kind of a rude.

[Mike Wright]

McCaffrey was one target. It was.

[Andy Holloway]

I think it's Chris Moore.

[Jason Moore]

Probably Chris Moore.

[Andy Holloway]

Chris Moore had 68% of the snaps last week. Five targets and a touchdown. He's a vet, you know, he's.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, are you sitting Jaden Daniels down knowing that McLaren and Debo are gone? I don't think so, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Because he runs the ball and the defense won't be able to stop him. He's going to get. I mean, your point is accurate.

[Jason Moore]

It's just identifying.

[Andy Holloway]

He will get yardage. It's really hard to predict when you don't know these guys very well. But I would put my chips on Chris Moore out of the wide receiver group. I'm happy to start Zach Ertz and honestly, this should be a huge bounce back game for.

[Jason Moore]

If it isn't, you should be worried.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because if it isn't and he is not effective enough.

[Mike Wright]

He will be.

[Jason Moore]

They'll rotate other people back.

[Mike Wright]

He will be.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he's going to dominate this week.

[Jason Moore]

Play Dak, Play Jaden, play Javante, play Bill, CD Play Pickens, play Ferguson.

[Mike Wright]

I was going to. Do we have.

[Jason Moore]

Are you concerned about Ferguson?

[Mike Wright]

Do we have concerns about Jake Ferguson?

[Jason Moore]

Who? Really?

[Mike Wright]

Who? I mean, 29% targets per route run. Outrageously productive. He's been awesome. I mean, he's got to be a top three fantasy tight end, right? Yeah, he's at the number one guy right now.

[Jason Moore]

Are you concerned about it?

[Mike Wright]

I'm.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, the touchdowns have been a little overabundant the last three weeks, but he was still tight end four and tight end four in the two other CD Lamb last week.

[Mike Wright]

I guess we will say. Don't hear what I'm not saying. I'm playing Jake Ferguson.

[Jason Moore]

Yes, but I.

[Mike Wright]

But with CD Lamb and George Pickens, then there, the pie will shrink for Ferguson.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, I think we've broken that one down. Anybody else want to talk about?

[Mike Wright]

Nope.

[Jason Moore]

Javante's Darby six on the year.

[Mike Wright]

It was a dunk.

[Andy Holloway]

Dak and Javante, you're starting for sure. Who would you start between Dak and Jaden Daniels?

[Jason Moore]

I'd play Dak.

[Mike Wright]

I'd play Dak.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, yeah, I play Dak. I mean, Jaden. It was nice. Three touchdowns last week.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Still doesn't have his weapons. I mean, Jaden's. Jaden is a trade for Target still. And if he doesn't have a huge week this week, he's a trade for target because McLaurin will be back. That's his number one. I mean, what, 12 touchdowns? 13 touchdowns last year.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, but he hasn't played Dak. Playing at an MVP level with two, are we?

[Jason Moore]

Jason is so excited.

[Andy Holloway]

I do.

[Jason Moore]

I can't. He's so excited. He didn't even want defensive points this week. He doesn't need them.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I wanted negative Josh. I'm spotting you that point because I got that Dax CD stick. Oh, yeah. Also Jake Ferguson in the first two games. Remember? Dak was there and Pickens were there. They were both healthy. And CD you mean? Yeah, CD And Pickens were both in those games. He had a ton of work. He was on pace through those two games for 153 targets, 119 receptions, 858 yards.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, week one, not great. Five for 23. Week two was 12 targets. No, that was week three.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, okay. Good, good, good. All right. Green Bay three one and one, taking on the Cardinals two and four.

[Andy Holloway]

I hate them.

[Jason Moore]

I don't like them. I like them more with Jacoby and I Don't think Jacoby's better than Kyler by any stretch. I, I just like them more.

[Andy Holloway]

You like a quarterback that can stand in the pocket, get ready to take a hit and deliver the ball downfield because that's the job of an NFL quarterback.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, we went back and we did a. I mean, maybe this is helpful for people. This is not just spite or anger, disappointment with our home team. Well, it's a little bit that's in there, but that's not what I'm speaking from.

[Mike Wright]

It was just moment. It was the furnace.

[Jason Moore]

I went and watched Fuel Kyler Murray film from years ago. We started seven and oh, Arizona did. Right. Like 20, 22 or something there. It's a slightly different Kyler Murray right now. The biggest problem for Kyler, and this is what the film shows, is that he's a very, very top tier quarterback without pressure, a thrower of the ball. Like he can make all the throws, but when there's pressure, he has turned into a. I'm not. Yes. He turns into a player that doesn't want to take a hit. And there was a good film study video I was watching that showed like, you know, and we know this Matthew Stafford, he stands in there and he gets destroyed frequently.

[Mike Wright]

His body has paid the price.

[Jason Moore]

And Kyler, if he thinks he's going to get hit, he will not stand in and make the throw. So he can make the isolated, amazing running play. If you give him pocket time, he can make. I mean like he got out of the pocket and threw the deep ball to Marvin Harrison. He's just an annoying player at this.

[Andy Holloway]

Point and he drops his eyes when he, when he scrambles. He, you know, he's worried about.

[Jason Moore]

He's not looking for that wide open.

[Andy Holloway]

Guy so hard that you watch Jaden Daniels and when he's running around there or you watch Lamar, I mean they're, they never look at the ground. They never look at. They're taking in peripheral vision on opponents and they are watching their wide receivers as they run away from defenders. Kyler is like looking at his feet while he runs.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I don't know if it's a product of going through the injury that he, that he went through or what, but I think he's always been a little soft. Green Bay three one and one, Arizona two and four. Green Bay seven point road favorites against Arizona over under 44 and a half. More than likely it'll be Jacoby Brissette who is 27 of 44 for 320 and two last week. We have A lot to talk about in this game. I'm going to start all on the Cardinal side because first, Amari D. Markado has been ruled out of this game.

[Mike Wright]

That just happened.

[Jason Moore]

Bam Knight practiced in full on Thursday. And Michael Carter. And so those two. Bam Knight, Michael Carter. And for the first time, I think I kind of prefer Bam Knight.

[Mike Wright]

That's fine.

[Jason Moore]

In terms of. I think he'll get more opportunities. They're both nasty. It's not. It's not great. Packers defense is good, but if I had to guess who would fall into the end zone, it would be Bam Knight.

[Andy Holloway]

I prefer Michael Carter. And the reason is because I don't think this game is going to go well for the Cardinals. The packers have a good run defense so far on the season. They're, you know, top three in schedule, adjusted fantasy points. And so I think that if I look at who's going to be the pass catching back, that's fine. Yeah, that seems to be Michael Carter. But honestly, I don't. I don't believe either one is a. Is a very good play.

[Jason Moore]

The Cardinals wide receiver room is destroyed as well. Marvin Harrison, we're waiting on.

[Mike Wright]

He remains in concussion protocol.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Gannon said he's progressing. He's in the protocol. I think that there's a decent chance he's back out there at this point.

[Andy Holloway]

Last I saw Thursday practice, he was still in. What is it like the orange.

[Mike Wright]

He's in a yellow jersey.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

You had a yellow jersey.

[Jason Moore]

It's required.

[Andy Holloway]

No, I know. But if he doesn't get a full.

[Jason Moore]

Practice, today's the day.

[Andy Holloway]

It's got to be a full participation. And I'm just. I'd be surprised if that happens, but we'll see.

[Jason Moore]

I can't. We don't know. But I think based on the way that they're talking with the. Progressing through the protocol, I'm more encouraged than I would have been on some other players.

[Mike Wright]

And if. And if he plays you, just. You play him as you would.

[Jason Moore]

Zay Jones is going to miss. He had a lot of work last week for Arizona or most likely going to miss. He hasn't practiced. And then you're kind of like, if Harrison and Zay Jones were out and there's a lot of wide receivers in this category this week. Michael Wilson is a player you could put in there.

[Mike Wright]

Disgusting again.

[Jason Moore]

Jacoby threw for 3, 4, 3, 20. If you take Harrison and Zay Jones out of the lineup, Trey McBride's going to eat. But it's going to be.

[Andy Holloway]

I'd rather play Chris Moore.

[Jason Moore]

Than Michael Wilson in the other game.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I like it. If you're looking for that level of like, someone's got to get the ball.

[Mike Wright]

Pierce.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I would prefer that game. I prefer that game script and those quarterbacks.

[Jason Moore]

Yep, there you go. So the Cardinals.

[Andy Holloway]

Trey McBride is who I want.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. The Cardinals are beat up and they are going to lose. Josh Jacobs. He's going to be great. You play him. Matthew Golden. The target share has been rising and he actually was pretty productive. His first top 20 fantasy finish last week with 86 yards receiving, a career high. Romeo Dobbs, 5 for 55. I. If I had them both, I'd play gold.

[Mike Wright]

I'm still Dobbs.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, that's fine. Tucker Kraft. What's the vibe on Tucker Kraft right now? It's been, you know, he had the breakout week, then he was banged up, played through it last week, had a touchdown, but just two targets. Where are you with Tucker Craft?

[Mike Wright]

Still playing him as a top five guy.

[Jason Moore]

And you like Jordan Love this week against the Cardinals?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, Cardinals defense is not bad.

[Andy Holloway]

The Cardinals defense, they're also getting healthier. Yeah. I mean, I could. I could see this turning into. Because the Cardinals are so beat up. I do think this could. If the Cardinals are going to be in this game, it's going to be because of their defense, not their offense, in which case it's going to be a low scoring game. Not a lot of fantasy. Goodness. If the Cardinals.

[Jason Moore]

It's going to be Josh Jacobs.

[Andy Holloway]

It's going to be Josh Jacobs. Exactly. So I worry a little bit about the packers passing game.

[Jason Moore]

If it's not early, Will Johnson, the number one rated corner in football, he'll be matched up against one of these guys, Dobbs or Golden. And then Max Melton coming back for the Cardinals as well.

[Mike Wright]

And he'll leave with injury again. Don't worry about it. Who? Melton. I feel like he's one of those guys. Just every week I'm like, oh, there goes Melton. Look at the.

[Andy Holloway]

Look at his name. You know what I mean?

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's the butter man.

[Andy Holloway]

Well, he's too soft. He's melting.

[Jason Moore]

If Melton played Melton, that's family.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we're taking a break. We'll talk some Sunday Night Football.

[Mike Wright]

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[Andy Holloway]

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[Andy Holloway]

Little. Little breaking news. Okay, I'm going to hit it.

[Jason Moore]

You said it's such a calm voice.

[Mike Wright]

Breaking news because it doesn't need the button.

[Andy Holloway]

This needs the button because I think this is important. This is one of the big storylines going on. Chuba Hubbard off the injury report will play.

[Mike Wright]

You and your Juba Hubbard apologists.

[Andy Holloway]

Get out of here.

[Mike Wright]

Get out of the way. Rico's here.

[Andy Holloway]

I agree Rico has been awesome. But this, this impacts. I want to know what the Panthers do. I want to see. Is it Rico 70, 30? Is it 50? 50?

[Mike Wright]

How smart is the coaching staff?

[Andy Holloway]

I. I think the. I think this is a above average, not top coaching staff.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. I don't think that answered my question. But if they're smart, it will be Rico.

[Jason Moore]

So perspective. I know Rico has had the breakout games. It was also against Dallas and Miami.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, I know. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Before he was hurt, chuba was 4.1 a carry. Rico is 3 a carry on all the touches of the year because of.

[Mike Wright]

The Rico playstyle of. Get going. Get going.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it's not like he was doing all of his damage in the second half. Rico was awesome from touch one. In those two games.

[Jason Moore]

The Panthers have internally made a decision on who will start at running back and get the majority of carries but did not tell us.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. Oh, come on.

[Jason Moore]

Wait, is that. Can we.

[Mike Wright]

So I'm not telling.

[Jason Moore]

That is a little bit interesting in the fact that you said and get majority of carries. He could have come out and said these guys are going to split. I love both of them.

[Andy Holloway]

That's.

[Jason Moore]

Now it sounds a little bit more Rico.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. I take that as Rico.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man. Just unbelievable competitive advantage that they just secured by not saying it.

[Andy Holloway]

But they didn't really because I said we're going to give them most of the work. So as soon as the first play is over.

[Mike Wright]

So what, you called them an above average, not great coaching staff.

[Jason Moore]

I think it's Rico, because I think you're recovering from a calf injury. So this week in particular, I think it's more Rico when you play him. But we're talking Sunday night. Atlanta three and two. San Francisco four and two. The Vegas line here, San Fran, minus one and a half. The over. Under is 47 and a half. Can I be honest with you?

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I would prefer you don't. I want you to figure out. I want to take back my most upset. I changed my mind.

[Mike Wright]

Okay. Oh, okay.

[Jason Moore]

Afterward, I hesitated to say it. I could have just stuck in there. I don't know if you can get me a reverse.

[Mike Wright]

No, Al gave me a reverse.

[Jason Moore]

Almost upset. No, I already. You don't have that capability. I already bet it. You can't take it.

[Andy Holloway]

He took it back. You can't take it back.

[Jason Moore]

I need the drop.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Can you do the drop in reverse is what he said.

[Jason Moore]

Can you do it in reverse for me? I don't want it to be informal.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

When you're playing chess, as long as you haven't taken your hand off the piece, the move is.

[Jason Moore]

Did I take.

[Andy Holloway]

The.

[Jason Moore]

I changed my mind.

[Andy Holloway]

You don't like the Giants?

[Jason Moore]

I don't have the Giants.

[Mike Wright]

I think the Broncos are going to beat the crap out of the Giants.

[Jason Moore]

I changed my mind. Now I feel bad that this is coming. Like, hopefully you didn't go out and bet it in between now, but I got to just.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to take only one man that did.

[Jason Moore]

There's a lot. Yeah, our producer. I'm changing my mind on that.

[Mike Wright]

He's a loyal soldier for the almost upset. He's in immediately.

[Jason Moore]

So. Yeah, we've got. We've got. You got that drop for me? You just hit it. Whenever you get it, you hit it. Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

All right.

[Jason Moore]

To make it now, what caused you.

[Andy Holloway]

To think about that? Was it this game? Yeah, because.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Andy Holloway]

Okay. Andy's almost upset of the week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah, it was. Jason, how did. Why'd you have to. You had to poke and prod there.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean, you knew it.

[Jason Moore]

That's exactly right. I was doubting it. When we were breaking down the Bronco game, I kind of changed my mind on it a little bit, looking at the numbers. And then we got here, and I was like, man, this is the one I actually believe in. So I'm going to go with the Falcons on this one, but. Which would basically be an outright win because they're, you know, San Francisco minus one and a half over. Under is 47 and a half in this one. Both teams fighting for positioning. The 49ers, we know how nice the schedule's been. They've done so much with so many injuries now you got both out for the year. You got Mac Jones getting it done. They did lose last week. Still competitive. There you go. And the Falcons, so impressive on Monday Night Football.

[Mike Wright]

This game is awesome. It is, dude. It's a prime time island. We all get to enjoy it. No distractions. Bijan. Christian McCaffrey.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man. Your. Your two running backs.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, oh, well, I mean, I wasn't talking about it for that, but fantasy football, this is. This is elite. The two or two of the superstar running backs who swing matchups every single week on Sunday night. This is fabulous.

[Jason Moore]

Squaring off both of them on your team. Bijan Robinson, number one in points per game. Christian McCaffrey number two in points per game.

[Mike Wright]

And the return of George Kittle.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, boy, you just. You got to be looking forward to this game more than anything on the year.

[Mike Wright]

Dude, I'm not even listening to what you guys are saying.

[Jason Moore]

We really need Michael Pennix to keep playing the way he did at home on Monday night when he goes to San Francisco here because that was pretty impressive.

[Andy Holloway]

Is there any letdown?

[Jason Moore]

Threw it to his best player a bunch.

[Mike Wright]

The. And I was. He should. He should keep doing that. But Darnell Mooney limited on Wednesday and Thursday. We'll see if he plays the games where Mooney is not there. That's where Drake London gets the Jamar Chase from last night treatment where he's just like. I mean, literally no other wide receivers caught a pass in that game against the Bills.

[Jason Moore]

He's a target for 180.

[Mike Wright]

Mooney changes that for Drake London. It's of course not a bench or anything crazy with Drake London. It's just a understanding that when they're both active, it hasn't been as great.

[Jason Moore]

All right, we know that the Falcons defense has been legit this year. Number five against quarterbacks, two against running backs. Six against wideouts. Number one against the returning tight end George Kittle.

[Mike Wright]

Don't care.

[Jason Moore]

And who's Jason start of the week. So their defense has really been what I think will travel well. Michael Penix has been bad on the road, but I think this will be a fun game. Like you said, prime time. What? Back to back primetime games for the Falcons. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. But from a start, sit perspective. You're not worried about Bijana McCaffrey and Drake London. But you are asking yourself, can I start a wide receiver for the 49ers like Kendrick Bourne?

[Mike Wright]

Wide receiver 7 and back to back weeks, 20 targets 100 yards over both of those games I saw there was a blurb that If Bourne hits 100 yards here, it will be the first three game stretch of a wide receiver hitting 100 yards in like 30 years.

[Jason Moore]

For the banners. For the 49ers. For the 49.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. No, not. Not in the NFL history, but for the 49ers.

[Jason Moore]

Since Jerry Rice at least.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, Rice.

[Jason Moore]

Well, that's wild. I'm surprised to never did that. What do you do then? Are you playing Kendrick Bourne? Are you staying in the.

[Andy Holloway]

Here with a special Mossy.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Andy Holloway]

So sad.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

Sorry.

[Andy Holloway]

Giants fans.

[Jason Moore]

I'm sorry. Well, now we have official.

[Mike Wright]

Now we have a technicality problem.

[Andy Holloway]

Right, because you did the last.

[Mike Wright]

Did you just undo the. This one?

[Jason Moore]

No, no, no, no. I told him, remember I asked for the reverse now you think I did?

[Mike Wright]

I don't know.

[Andy Holloway]

I mean that was the last.

[Jason Moore]

That means you'd have to hit that again and have drop again.

[Mike Wright]

If he hits that again, we have summoned.

[Jason Moore]

Come on.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah. Okay, now you have none.

[Jason Moore]

So now I have no almost upsets.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct. The rules are rules.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, so now formally.

[Mike Wright]

Well, you don't have one.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh.

[Jason Moore]

What? What?

[Andy Holloway]

Andy's almost upset. I didn't see this coming. Oh, man.

[Jason Moore]

Wow.

[Mike Wright]

This game.

[Jason Moore]

I might want to take this one back. No, I'm just kidding. I'm excited for this one as well. But if you're shooting your shot. Is it born?

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, it has to be. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Is he a mustard to you?

[Andy Holloway]

Who's the quarterback?

[Mike Wright]

It's going to be Mac.

[Andy Holloway]

Is that for sure?

[Jason Moore]

I think I most likely what I've.

[Andy Holloway]

Been reading that makes me feel like it's Mac. It weirdly makes me feel a little bit more confident in Bourne because obviously that's who's been. You know, it's in sync with.

[Mike Wright]

It's the George Kittle factor. Mac Jones loves to find the one guy. Apparently Mac Jones, he finds his one wide receiver or pass catching target and he goes to them there. Like if George Kittle comes in and he's like, oh, that guy's really, really good. It may be then Bourne is just a disappointment. But I think based off of what has happened, you still play him if you need to. It's like a flex.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. Tampa Bay five and one, Detroit four and two. Monday night double header. Mike, your Favorite.

[Mike Wright]

Well, this. Hey, this one's an attack on the.

[Jason Moore]

On east coast ads because it's the back to back.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah. And I feel for him.

[Andy Holloway]

I like it.

[Mike Wright]

I mean I like it for me as a West coast dad.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah. Tampa Bay 5 and 1.

[Mike Wright]

My brethren over there. I'm.

[Jason Moore]

They're asleep. They can't. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

What's the second game? Houston, Seattle. Ah, you're fine. Just go to sleep.

[Jason Moore]

Tampa bay, Detroit. Detroit's 4 and 2. They have the highest implied point total of the entire week. The game has a 52 1/2 point over under delightful Detroit -6. Their implied point total is 29.3. And yeah, this might not be the last time we see them play each other this year.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, for sure. I mean these two teams are awesome. Again, this is another, you know, division leader, conference leader who is not favored in the game. That's pretty crazy. But this is. I want this game even more than the Cowboys game. Not like I'm more excited for it because I got the CD deck stack. But Baker gets it done, man. And this is in a dome. The Detroit Lions are going to put up points. They're going to throw the ball a lot. There's going to be so much fantasy output in this game. I can't fathom this one letting us down.

[Jason Moore]

Baker and Josh Allen are tied for the second shortest odds to win the mvp. Mahomes is number one right now. Those three are the only ones with a like that are even in contention right now. All right, let's start on Tampa Bay side. You talked about it. Baker's been getting it done. We saw tez Johnson get 72% of snaps last week after. And that's, you know, a Buka went down I think mid game basically with 40 something percent of the snapshot. He caught a big touchdown. Cameron Johnson caught a big touchdown. Mike Evans has been limited, might return, but Abuka should miss Godwin should miss Shepard is there. Sort it out for the people out there that need. I mean, again, this is what I'm saying. There are so many games where you're filtering down to which is the right backup wide receiver to play in a game with a quarterback I like.

[Andy Holloway]

It's tough. I mean Mike Evans is in your lineup.

[Mike Wright]

I think if he plays, you'd play him.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, he's going to be the number one target here and should be a great fantasy play. You've got Brian Branch suspended for this one.

[Mike Wright]

Their safety for the Lions, 31st against wide receivers right now and 26 against quarterback.

[Andy Holloway]

So I think it's great. Then you go, okay, what's the next guy? I had, you know, in the waiver wire show, I had been on the Tez Johnson side because I want that deep shot. I want that down the field target that seemed like that was Tez Johnson. But now with Mike Evans, you know, ready to play, I wonder if the number two guy.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, it's Shepard.

[Andy Holloway]

See, I was going to go Cameron Johnson, so I mean, it's hard to figure this out.

[Mike Wright]

It will be Mike Evans and Sterling Shepard on the field, I believe.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, it will definitely. Yes. On the field for sure. Snaps, yes. But I don't get fantasy points for snaps. And Shepard. I'm just not sure.

[Mike Wright]

But it is step one.

[Andy Holloway]

It is step one. I would agree with that.

[Jason Moore]

Last week, Shepard played 49% of snaps. Tess Johnson plays 72% of snaps.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So from a snap perspective, you're saying.

[Andy Holloway]

You think that changes with Evans back?

[Mike Wright]

I'm just saying like when they're in too wide, it will be. It will not be Tez Johnson. It'll be Sterling Shepard and Mike Evans. I could be wrong, but that's how I'm.

[Jason Moore]

I mean, why wasn't Shepard out there more last week then?

[Mike Wright]

I don't have an answer.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, it's got. His snap counts have gone down. I think they've become more comfortable if you want the counterpoint. In my opinion, I think they become more comfortable with these younger guys than kind of the run of the mill PPR like Shepard is not in consideration for me because I don't. There's no explosiveness to sewing shepherd. He could catch six for 40. I mean, that can give you that game.

[Mike Wright]

The counterpoint I would say to that is I don't. I would have to go back.

[Jason Moore]

A counterpoint. I wish I could let you talk. This is a. I can't let you talk. I'm sorry.

[Mike Wright]

Counter. Counterpoint.

[Jason Moore]

Thank you.

[Mike Wright]

I would have to go back and watch and see what truly happened because last week, per I'm looking at our site, Cameron Johnson 49% of the snaps, Shepard 49%, Abuka 53%.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Before he went out and. And Tez Johnson led with 72%. I'm saying like no one. It was a clearly a weird game of trying to figure out what we're doing with our wide receivers. And now that you're game planning. I don't. I just. I would. I would trust the veteran over.

[Jason Moore]

I'm going, Tess. That's my final vote.

[Andy Holloway]

I'll go Cam and you can take Shepard as the second guy and we'll see who's right. But this, what it really means is I don't probably not starting any of those guys.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, it's like we, the Nasty boys we've been talking about, feel like Pierce. I'd rather go Alec Pierce in that Colt.

[Jason Moore]

What if you had a roster that was so good that you're playing Taz and you're playing Pierce and you're playing Chris Moore?

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Jason Moore]

How good would that feel?

[Andy Holloway]

It would feel better this week than most weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Okay, thank you. That's a good point. Rashad White.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, man, he's back on his bs. He's back on it.

[Jason Moore]

On his bs. Oh, yeah.

[Mike Wright]

Look at, look at these numbers for Rashad White.

[Andy Holloway]

Efficiency. That starter.

[Mike Wright]

Running back 7 and 11. Delightful. 14 for 41 on the ground, 4 for 30 through the air. It's old school Rashad White, 17 for 65 on the ground.

[Andy Holloway]

But the cool thing about old school Rashad White is he was the running back seven at the end of the year and the running back 24 at the end of last year.

[Mike Wright]

So if you're mad at the PPR scan, that is Chris Olave. This is. This is a running back scam. But you just. Just cash the check.

[Jason Moore]

Jared Goff is Jason start of the week at quarterback. Gibbs and Montgomery can both be played in this game. Let's just talk about the. I mean, and obviously I'm on raw. Jameson Williams. Six for 66 and a touchdown. More volume last week had the score. Jameson Williams or Keenan?

[Andy Holloway]

Jameson Williams.

[Mike Wright]

Jameson Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

This game has too many points and it's difficult to run on the Buccaneers and it's pretty easy to throw on them.

[Jason Moore]

So until I, Crystal Lave is traveling to Chicago.

[Mike Wright]

I'd play Olave over Jameson Williams.

[Andy Holloway]

I would play Jameson Williams because of the weather in Chicago.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's a great point. Okay, I reversed that. I say the. I thought you were going to talk about Keenan more of. Until I see something from Keenan Allen, I'm not playing him. I mean, it's been. It's been horrifically bad the past three weeks.

[Jason Moore]

Laporte has been the tight end for him back to back weeks. You can play him and then Kate Otten could be the biggest beneficiary.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

In reality, you guys basically concluded you wouldn't play any of those three guys.

[Andy Holloway]

Right.

[Jason Moore]

If you had a choice. Kate Otten, he normally takes advantage of opportunities. I'm not expecting Mike Evans first game back from a hamstring on a season in which he already. He was Kind of, you know, not doing standard Mike Evans stuff. You know, he's slowing down a little bit, I think. I don't expect him to come back.

[Mike Wright]

Were still there.

[Jason Moore]

I don't expect him to come back and fully dominate. By the way, he needs 78 a game here on out to hit 1000.

[Mike Wright]

I think they'll find a way to do it. Just a couple spike games here.

[Andy Holloway]

There's 200 yards in Week 18 when they're just trying to manufacture it and.

[Mike Wright]

Just something to at least bring to people's attention, per David Montgomery. We had a report, Jason, you were sharing with me a report of the team and the coaching staff saying we need to even the carries back up between Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery. That this is not a don't play Gibbs. It is just pay attention. That perhaps Montgomery will be safer and, you know, like, he's been kind of. He's been volatile. Running back 36, 23. Running back 2. Running back 62. So maybe we get back to a level where we're cool with Montgomery.

[Andy Holloway]

I believe there's going to be 60 points scored in this game.

[Jason Moore]

Houston's two and three, the Seahawks four and two. The game's in Seattle. Seattle minus three, overrunners, 41 and a half. I disagree with Mike. I think this is a great game. I think Houston, Seattle is a great game. If you had to choose between the two, I'd watch the first one. But this is. Houston's been playing good football. The offense has looked a lot better. Seattle, it's been fun with Darnold, with JSN leading the NFL and receiving yards out wide this year. Something people didn't see coming or didn't think that he could do. And he's completely dominating that. I'm excited about this. You get to watch Nico Collins on a Monday Night Football game. We get to sort out. And Mike gets to be yelling at the tv.

[Mike Wright]

That's the best part of it.

[Jason Moore]

About Charbonnet and Ken Walker.

[Mike Wright]

If you're east coast and you go to sleep for this game, you don't have to do the rage.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Mike will be raging.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

Because there's no. There's actually no way not to rage. Because if Walker does great, you're raging at what the mistakes they've made you.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

If he doesn't do great, it's a win, win, win. You'll continue to rage about what he can do.

[Andy Holloway]

Your anger out.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

The only scenario, I think, in which you can't rage is if Charbonnet dominates on the ground.

[Andy Holloway]

I rage about how pissed he is that Charbonne did good.

[Jason Moore]

Possibly.

[Mike Wright]

No, I agree that that would be worst case scenario. That's. Yeah, that's worst case scenario also. Not possible.

[Jason Moore]

Not possible.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, my gosh. This is my point. You guys love Charbonnet, but now he's set up as the antithesis of your Walker.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

So you can't. Now you treat him. You treat him like Ramon Dre or worse. You hate Charbonnet.

[Andy Holloway]

To be fair, that was like three years ago.

[Jason Moore]

What do you mean?

[Mike Wright]

When we were sharpening it. Yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You stopped loving him on his own merit or did you stop loving him because of what he represented? No.

[Mike Wright]

Those first few years watching him, I had stopped loving it.

[Andy Holloway]

He earned it.

[Jason Moore]

Look, all right, I won't mention it again.

[Andy Holloway]

He.

[Mike Wright]

His chance of getting a touchdown.

[Jason Moore]

I thought you still secretly rooted for the guy that you liked. I guess you gave up.

[Mike Wright]

If Ken Walker leaves town, then I'll root for Charbonnet again. Charbonnet, great chance of scoring a touchdown if you had.

[Jason Moore]

If you had both of them. Who do you play?

[Mike Wright]

I don't.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. I got two quiet friends suddenly because it's impossible.

[Mike Wright]

Like you. It was the season low in offensive snaps for Ken Walker last week. Charbonnet was also awful.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm going to. I would play.

[Jason Moore]

Jacksonville is a great defense.

[Andy Holloway]

I would play Kenneth Walker, Houston.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, last week. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

In.

[Andy Holloway]

You know, I would play Kenneth Walker simply because I'm almost sleep at night. I'm always. I'm almost always going to take the opportunity side over the explosive side. But Charbonnet has been so inefficient that you're talking about a guy who, while he's getting this work, hasn't scored 12 fantasy points on the season. So I don't feel like I'm sacrificing a great game. And that's including the games he's had touchdowns. Whereas I could be sacrificing a blow up game for Walker.

[Jason Moore]

So then your marks over Chubb. Woody Marks over Chubb is the exact.

[Andy Holloway]

Same argument I am. Woody Marks over Chubb.

[Jason Moore]

And that's a scary one, too. The running game in Houston's very scary because like you said, Nick Chubb is going to get more work. Woody Marks needs to get passing game work to succeed. So they. Are they off your board in terms of starts?

[Mike Wright]

No, not off.

[Andy Holloway]

Not off.

[Jason Moore]

And if you had to choose one, you'd both go Marks.

[Mike Wright]

I would the. The bi week bump. It's real. So that I would be banking on the history that that has brought us.

[Jason Moore]

So Michael doesn't want to watch the game, but it's start of the week. CJ Stroud's playing in it.

[Mike Wright]

No, no, no. I'm watching the game. I'm just giving the dads on the east coast permission. If you want to go to sleep for this, do it, man.

[Andy Holloway]

We'll catch you up the next day.

[Jason Moore]

You probably slept through Thursday night football thinking that the old men were going to, you know, let's.

[Andy Holloway]

We caught him up today.

[Jason Moore]

Other players in this game that you care about. Christian Kirk, Cooper Cup.

[Mike Wright]

Kirk. Kirk's a nasty boy. He is like, he's in that. The range of the Alec Pierce and guys that we were talking about, are.

[Jason Moore]

We starting to at least like, is Jaden Higgins going to get more and more work in this offense at some point?

[Andy Holloway]

That's hope after the bye week that maybe they get him more involved. I'm not playing any of the other. I'm not playing Christian, Kirk or Higgins. Just keeping an eye on them.

[Jason Moore]

Injury updates. Oh, what about the. Sorry, let me ask one more question. AJ Barner for Seattle tight end.

[Andy Holloway]

I'm not personally doing it. The Texans have a good defense. He's been very good so far this season. He's had some touchdowns. Tight end, 10 on the season. This is a guy that we talked about like you could be a pivot if you've got an injured tight end. He's late in the week, you know, an emergency option. But I think there's better. I think most people have a tight end. They would start over.

[Jason Moore]

Barner, Debo Samuel said that we'll just have to see. When asked about playing Sunday, the heel is aggravating for sure. Josh Downs won't play in week seven. David Najoku ruled out for week seven as well. We got another segment.

[Andy Holloway]

Fantasy Face off, presented by prize picks.

[Jason Moore]

Well, our hot spring streak as a group really ended last week.

[Mike Wright]

It did.

[Jason Moore]

We had been on fire, I think 11 of 12 picks the week before. It didn't go well.

[Mike Wright]

No.

[Jason Moore]

And I thought for a second I had some hope yesterday to not spin the wheel of shame because Mike got how many correct?

[Mike Wright]

One.

[Jason Moore]

And how many did I get correct?

[Mike Wright]

One. Yeah, but how many did you get wrong?

[Jason Moore]

Three.

[Mike Wright]

And then I got two wrong.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, because you got the boot.

[Mike Wright]

Because I got the reboot. Shout out to prize picks.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, they took care of you. And then you guys.

[Andy Holloway]

It's a cool thing that prize picks does. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Moore]

You don't want to lose because of that correct.

[Mike Wright]

You just want to lose because they don't play Kenneth Walker. Idiots.

[Jason Moore]

Maybe stop betting on him, dummy.

[Mike Wright]

Nah, I will always stop leaning on.

[Jason Moore]

Kenneth Walker to win stuff.

[Mike Wright]

No, that's a.

[Jason Moore]

That's your problem.

[Mike Wright]

I'm in.

[Jason Moore]

You're not.

[Andy Holloway]

No.

[Mike Wright]

Kenneth Walker's very talented.

[Andy Holloway]

Will of shame.

[Jason Moore]

All right, it's me. I guess I'll embrace it. Go ahead and spin it.

[Mike Wright]

What a loser.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, man.

[Mike Wright]

What do we got here? The wheel is Iceman, Looney Tunes, Jerry Jones. Oh, no.

[Andy Holloway]

Wiener. Oh, he's not a winner, but he is a wiener. Oh, look at that. Look at this. He's trying to figure it out. Get it on. Stick that wiener up.

[Mike Wright]

It's the Glizzy King.

[Andy Holloway]

Looking good, Andy. Looking real good.

[Mike Wright]

That's way funnier than I thought.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, we should have brought some mustard to just continue that line down the face.

[Jason Moore]

I'm the wiener of the week. I leaned on Ramondre Stevenson. I told you. Okay, that's good. I told you. I deserved it. Well, we get to reveal this week's picks, starting at the quarterback position. What do you guys have?

[Andy Holloway]

Well, I love my projection. It came a little bit earlier in the week to. In that weather game. I have you cheat coded this thing. 216 and a half passing yards. I'm taking less than that.

[Mike Wright]

If you go to Price Books, you will not find that right now.

[Andy Holloway]

Not anymore. The weather has. I got in before the weather was caught up.

[Jason Moore]

My quarterback's my green goblin, so I just have. Jalen hurts more than 0.5 passing touchdowns.

[Mike Wright]

He should be able to do that. I'm going with a fun one. I'm going with Cameron ward. Longest completion, 32 and a half yards. I am taking the less.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, okay. Maybe no Ridley.

[Mike Wright]

Well, and just the fact that he has would have missed that. I think it's like five of six weeks.

[Andy Holloway]

Not against the Cardinals.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, there is that.

[Jason Moore]

It's you, Jay.

[Andy Holloway]

It is.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. Yeah, you went first for quarterback. So we keep that order going.

[Andy Holloway]

I didn't. Yeah, no, I'm going to go.

[Jason Moore]

I'm the one that looks like the hot dog, though.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, you're the. You're the wiener. I was the winner. I'm going to go with Zach Chardonnay.

[Jason Moore]

You're the winner with how many, by the way?

[Andy Holloway]

Zach Charbonnet with half of them. Zach Charbonnet.

[Mike Wright]

Have some dignity.

[Andy Holloway]

Oh, I've got dignity. You're going to love this one, Mike.

[Mike Wright]

Yes.

[Andy Holloway]

Yes. It's the longest rush.

[Mike Wright]

Oh.

[Andy Holloway]

Of eleven and a half yards. Not going to happen.

[Mike Wright]

No way.

[Jason Moore]

You have done that.

[Andy Holloway]

Before I have. I'm going back to the well.

[Mike Wright]

No way, no how so.

[Jason Moore]

A long Charbonnet run hurts in so many ways.

[Andy Holloway]

Correct so. But good news, when he doesn't, I will feel happy. I'm taking less than 11 and a half on his longest rushing attempt.

[Jason Moore]

I actually have a fun one too at the running back position. I've been impressed with Jacksonville's run defense and their defense in general. Kyron Williams going up against Jacksonville. I'm taking less than 20.5 rushing yards on his first five attempts.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, that's a fun one.

[Jason Moore]

So we'll be watching the London game eagerly. I also.

[Mike Wright]

I'm the reception man from here on out, but I also have Kyron Williams.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, really?

[Mike Wright]

Two and a half receptions. No Puka.

[Jason Moore]

Oh, you're going.

[Mike Wright]

I'm going to take the more.

[Jason Moore]

Yep. No, that makes sense.

[Andy Holloway]

All right, wide receiver here. This is my green goblin lad McConkey with huge getting back and I think a high over under in that game that I want pieces of. He's just got to have more than three and a half receptions. That feels pretty easy.

[Jason Moore]

All right, I am going to go with. I'm going to go back to that Jacksonville LA game and I'm going to take Brian Thomas. I've been on the trade for Brian Thomas train all year long. They're going to get it going. They're figuring things out in this offseason.

[Mike Wright]

Was going last week.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah, and that absolutely was. So I'm going to stay with that. I'm going to go more than 66 and a half receiving yards.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, I like that one. I'm going to stick with the aforementioned jsn. This dude is. He's that dude.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, he is.

[Mike Wright]

It's at six and a half receptions. Easy peasy. I'm going more.

[Jason Moore]

Okay. And then we've got tight end, Mr. 50% target.

[Mike Wright]

Shit, let's go.

[Andy Holloway]

Yeah, I almost took that exact same one. Yeah, I was looking at that and it felt delicious. My tight end. I'm going with a lesser known. Not. You know, you're not starting Tommy Trimble out there in fantasy rosters. Jotavian Sanders is back, but he has. Even in the games with Jotavian Sanders, he's involved. He gets plenty of yards. And this is a Tommy Trimble. Tommy Trimble, he gets. I mean, there's a great matchup for tight ends and his projection sitting there at 15 and a half yards.

[Mike Wright]

Okay.

[Andy Holloway]

He just got to get like he could do that on one, maybe two receptions. So I'm taking more than that.

[Mike Wright]

How many times does he.

[Andy Holloway]

Almost every. I think it's only one time this season. He has really tremble. Yeah.

[Mike Wright]

All right, my green goblin. This week I'll just lean in. My favorite player of all time, Meowson Taylor. Three and a half receptions.

[Jason Moore]

Okay.

[Mike Wright]

There's nobody there. I'm going with the more.

[Jason Moore]

I'm taking Darren Waller to go less than 38 and a half receiving yards in the weather game. Yeah, he might score because he scores every week.

[Mike Wright]

It's going to. It'll be just a yards after catch.

[Andy Holloway]

What's the projection? How many. How many yards?

[Jason Moore]

38 and a half years.

[Mike Wright]

Yeah, no, I get it. But that would be.

[Andy Holloway]

That would be terrifying.

[Mike Wright]

Terrifyingly fun to watch.

[Jason Moore]

Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. That was Fantasy Face off, presented by Prize Picks. Basketball season is here, so check out more max discounts on the app. Man. Basketball season's here.

[Mike Wright]

Oh, dude.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

I'll see you all then. Yeah, I'll be a meteorologist on Sunday. That'll be delightful. Goodbye, everybody.

[Andy Holloway]

Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter the FFballers.

[Jason Moore]

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[Mike Wright]

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[Jason Moore]

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[Andy Holloway]

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